/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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First for Bubi

Reminder that german tank players are the americans of GF.

>>180180530
I don't know senpai.
Americans are known for using their planes the wrong way like trying to turn in Mustang.

German tankers don't really use their bunkers the wrong way. They're just very obnoxious.

>>180180857
>don't really use their bunkers the wrong way
Driving out in the open ,having zero awereness of your surroundings and ignoring objectives is usinga tank well now?

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Would you guys be ok with war thunder having the same variety of tanks and planes that WoT has (including prototypes and such for all available nations)?

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>>180181060
>implying that's not how they were used in real-life

http://tankarchives.blogspot.de/2013/07/king-tigers-at-ogledow.html

>>180181187
No, paper tanks are cancer

>>180181187
cant have same tanks, war goiming has patented some tanks
))))))))))))

>>180181187
No

10th for the G.91 is literally a MiG-15 at br 8.0

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>>180180345
mmm... bread

BMP 1 WITH MALYUTKA WHEN

>>180180857
What bunkers are you talking about?

>>180181187
Only if they used it to keep balance.

>>180181187
No thanks, Gaijin did the right thing not to include all the paper shit.

>>180180530
Hey man, cut them some slack. They're using some of the worst tank designs in history.

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>>180182882
>Actually believing the memes

>>180181187
Prototype planes that actually flew and have some flight data and specs available but weren't put into active service are ok. But fuck paper shit that was never even built (see the R2Y2, and we fucking have 3 of them).

>>180183037
If their tanks weren't awful they wouldn't have lost the war.

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>>180183128
>Tanks decide wars

>>180183037
*catches fire while driving off the train cart*
Heh,
*can't rotate turret because on uneven terrain*
nothing personel.
*sides get penetrated by Soviet anti-tank rifles*
Kid.

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everytime

Are turboprops less affected by altitude than piston engines?

>>180183598
wyvern is shit at high altitudes

>>180183406
Ouch, that must've hurt to watch.

>>180183320
>literally describing Soviet tanks
lmao

>>180183406
Genuinely horrified until I realised the scale and that it was RC planes, derp.

>>180183320
*engine overheats*
Heh,
*transmission breaks down*
nothing personel.
*crew dies from spalling*
Kid.

>>180184223
*cant find hammer to shift gear

Doing brit planes, still only at Tier 2. Gotten my fighters for now and decided to start on the bomber line (hampden, sunderland, wellington, halifax, stirling, etc.). Is there a particular point where they become good? I've heard nothing but shit about british bombers and don't have any at the BR that i'm playing at yet that I want to try out.

>>180184676
Bombers are shit and useless since they don't fit any of the maps or modes.

>>180184664
Was the transmission that bad on the T-34?

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when?

>>180184772
Even the really gun-covered ones that just shit out bullet hoses and one-pass bases?

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>>180184919
when?

>>180183805
I think that may have more to do with the Wyvern not having a that high power to weight ratio combined with a very high wingloading

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>>180180530
>post motivated me to play some German tonks again
>whip out my Tiger II (P) and head into battle
>Normandy against Soviets
We won.
But by god what enjoyment do people exactly get out of high tier Germans?
By the end of the match I was hoping some random Slav might shoot me so it'll finally be over. It's just so dull. You drive in a giant bunker at a top speed of 10km/h, point your gun at a Slav and evaporate him. It actually made me remember why I stopped playing Germany in tier 4. This is the dullest shit imaginable.
Do people actually like this kind of gameplay?

>>180184898
first couple of gears needed strenght to shift in, last one neede fucking hammer or slav on steroids

Thats what i've heard

>>180185395
Some do.
Some just like german tanks.
And some like a bit of challenge.
I personally don't like it when 90 % of the time you get matched up against go-karts with ammo that makes your armor irrelevant and ricochet-city russian tanks.

>>180184676
They are shit until you reach the Halifax then the go back to being shit until you get the wellingtons which are just ok.

>>180181187
first Gaijin would have to decompress 5.0 - 7.0, so paper designs and never accepted tanks don't throw any resemblence of balance out of window.

>>180186351
What's this "balance" you're talking about?

>>180185395
>you didn't get matched up with post-wars
Consider your self lucky friend, Otherwise you'd be up against Meme-62s and the rest of his cold war buddies.

If you want the real high tier experience, jump into a Leopard and see how long you can last. Bonus points if the first shell to actually hits you only sets the crew on fire.

Speaking of Leo's what is their most effective shell, anyway? Ever since HESH now has actual effects of when it fails, I feel like it's Gaijin basically telling me to fuck off.

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When?

>>180187106
>jump into a Leopard and see how long you can last
Wish I had a Leopard or Jgpz 4-5 actually. They seem sanic and fun.
But I just don't have the willpower to grind them. The Panther II and Jagdtiger are cucking me out of researching these vehicles.

help, i've never bothered to get into tanks in any nation. Is there a good starting point? from what I've read here is that german tanks are useless, is that true?

>>180187338
ok Lohere

>>180187106
>it's either clubbing late WW2 allied tech or getting clubbed by tanks from the 60s
So then why do people even like Tiger IIs?
Both varieties of MM you get with them seem awful.

>>180187558
not him tho

>>180187513
Don't get into tanks.
It's really awful and the grind is way worse than planes.
If you play plons don't make the mistake of playing tonks. Stay away from them.
>>180187707
Comet show titties pls. ;_;

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Okay you filthy communists give me a rundown on following deathtraps:
T-44
T-44-100
T-54 mod. 1947
T-54 mod. 1949
T-54 mod. 1951
T-62

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KV-2/IS-2 when?

>>180187930
>T-44
speedy weedy bouncy house ufp
>T-44-100
speedy weedy bouncy house UFP with 10mm of )))))
>T-54 mod. 1947
))))))))))))))))))))) incarnate
>T-54 mod. 1949
overtiered and shit
>T-54 mod. 1951
gets HEATFS, still shit
>T-62
breddy gud

>>180187930
>T-54 mod. 1947
~210 armor + 50 mm hidden behind turret front))))))

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>even in death I still serve

>>180187513
First off don't get into tanks.
Here's a quick rundown on nations:

>Germany
Overall pretty good from tier 1-3, tanks have decent guns and mobility, from late tier 3 onwards tanks have poor to awful mobility but good guns and armor. Have to face tanks from post-war period though.
>USSR
Overall pretty good at any tier. Decent balance of armor, firepower and mobility.
>USA
Light and tank destroyer line let you go sanic and appear behind your enemies. Decent medium tank line but kinda inferior to the Soviets overall.
>UK
Rapid fire cannons at low tier and excellent mobility. Also good heavies with the Churchill. They suck in tier 3 though since their most common gun requires you to snipe every individual enemy crewman. You can penetrate people's tanks across the map though.
>Japan
Kinda weird and very mysterious.

>>180188327
MUST....CRUSH.....FASCISTS

>>180187469
Believe it or not, you'll get so sick and tired of getting eaten alive by everything in the Leopard even with the speed you'll actually prefer the Panther II. That and the explosive filler stock rounds. But that's just me.

>>180187662
I think it's the mystique of driving the Tiger II in general. Getting an even matchup is kind of fun, but it almost never happens because people don't tend to play tier 4 specifically because of the postwar menace.

>>180187774
Comet is underage you cant see her nipples.

How do you fight nigfires in a 109k4

>>180188327
>"Syria had six Jagdpanzer IVs operational on 6 June 1967. One was destroyed by an Israeli tank. Surprisingly, the remaining five were retained by the Syrian army. They made no appearance during the 1973 Yom Kippur War. During the Desert Shield / Desert Storm period in 1990-1991, when Syria and the USA were briefly allies, the remaining five Jagdpanzer IVs were listed as “arsenal-level (long-term warehoused) assets” at al-Zabadani army base north of Damascus."
It's only a matter of time until we see them in action again, isn't it?

>>180188884
Press J

>>180188970
"The Jadgpanzer IV was not very active, and had more losses than wins. Smart players will, keep these in reserve until just the right moment ))))))" t. Small Family Company

>>180189127
>>180188970
Probably won't see any Jagdpanzers though.
Al-Zabadani was heavily fought over, so even if the Syrians haven't scrapped them until now, they most likely got destroyed during the fighting.

>>180188970
>sandniggers reenacting WW2 with t-34-85s fighting jagdpz IVs

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>>180189660
>sandniggers also reenacting WT with t-55s fighting jagdpz IVs

>>180189856
fucking muddies having all the fun
civil war in Europe when?
I want to shoot shit

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Leave the Jumbo-Sherman to me

>>180188569
>MUST....CRUSH.....FASCISTS
t. communism

does anyone here have that thing where you could make the graphics super crisp? I think it involved setting config.blk to read-only so the launcher wouldn't fuck it

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>>180189856
>russian dickhead just bombs you with his plane before you get to the fight
Wow WT really is realistic

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>>180190535
this crisp ?

>>180190169
TDs ARE CUTE
CUUUTEEE

>>180188305
Thats funny how i pen it with just 235 on long 88

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>Breda Ba.65 is the tier 1 ground attacker for Italy
>It's somehow a reserve
>Nothing can be added before it
>We will not get the Ground attack model Cr.32
>We will not get the Ground attack model Cr.42

why live.

>>180192957
They'll just add them after the Ba.65.
Same way the G-14 somehow comes after the G-10 or the T-55 after the T-62.

>>180190169
>high as full sized tank
>no gun depression
>huge piece of flat armor under the gun
worst german TD, and somehow premium

>>180194254
2bad4regulartree

>>180194254
panzerwerfer is considered tank destroyer in game)))

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>>180180345

Get this fucking war criminal off my general.

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>flying at transonic speeds with no canopy has no consequences

>>180195680
>persecuting innocent Native American's with a penchant for up close and personal
baka desu, commiefam

>>180197026
Natives are the most privileged minority and therefor bourgeois scum and must be destroyed for the liberation of proletariat.

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Blue cockpit light is the comfiest shit.

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Are Soviet SPGs kinda unpopular by any chance?
I don't think I've seen any SU-85, SU-152 or ISU vehicles in RB for some time.

I like the 85 but have to wonder about the rest of the line.

>Americans have been surprisingly non-retarded in the last few games I played
Did something happened?

If for some utterly bizarre reason the only turbine planes that'd have ever flown were turboprops, what would have been the ultimate prop fighter design?

>>180197771

Congrats you now know that burgers actually is the only choice in this game

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>>180192178
>drive out in my SU-100
>get uptiered
>hit by ATGM using faggot from across the map
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoOtxFB8eWQ

Thanks Gaijin.

>>180197692
Get su-100, its small its fucking fast and it has shell with 240 mm pen... if i would get su-122p discount 50 or 75 i would immediately buy it.

Isu-122 its bit tricky because it has somewhat semi armor and you can hide most of your tank behind wall(gun area is kinda bouncy) But thing is they're slow as fuck. If you're going further skip su-122 54, get Obj 258

>>180197692
SU-152 is probably my favorite Soviet tank.

>>180197692
Their first couple spgs are not good so people just don't play the ones with high velocity guns.

How dead out of 10 is GF arcade? Havent played in a while and thinking about downloading the game to kill few dozen hours.

I dont want to play the latest tier either, I am perfectly happy driving around in my panther and tiger I.

>>180199927
Not dead at all. I'm usually finding games in less than a minute even in the middle of the night.

>>180200114
Cool, I might give it a shake again, thanks.

Anything of significance happened in the game in the last ... 9 months? Dont really want to go through all of the changelogs.

>>180200302
Weeb tanks happened. I haven't played them personally, but they're nothing spectacular and not many people plays them.

>>180200903
Ha I got memed into playing nips once at the very beginning when we only had planes. Already enjoyed enough being set on fire.

Thanks.

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>play germany
>brits on the opposing side
>at least three fireflies with 16x rockets up after three minutes
>a minute later half the team is dead due to rocket spam
>same shit with freedumbs on the other side
>mfw

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Wingtip RR Soar jets as an upgrade for the Meteor F8 when?
>additional 3600 pounds of thrust

>>180183095
the R2Y2s are there because japan needed jet bombers, just like every nation has

japan still is the poorest jet nation in the game (italians excluded) and without them there'd be like 3 jets. also the R2Y2 is the only 'japanese' japanese jet, the others being imported or copies of german ones

>>180197159
>Blue light
I didn't need my night vision anyway

>>180202264
>tfw still no pulquiII instead of the mig15 that opened pandoras box to all the “when“-posters with nva equipment

>>180195680
>flying
*fallsasleep*

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Is the "Superior" title the edgiest thing in the game?

>>180202949
>he doesn't wear stormer

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>>180187942
)))))))))) when?

>>180202264
>only 'japanese' japanese jet, the others being imported or copies of german ones
And unlike the Ki-200 and Kikka they were never built even on paper stage.

>USA gets Sabres, which makes sense
>Japan and Germany get a Sabre, okay I guess?
>Britain, which operated 431 CL-13s, doesn't get a Sabre
>not even counting the Australian Sabre

>>180203450
come on even the italians got some italian jets, cant deny the japanese the same.

>>180203730
Avon sabre OP((((

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FUCKING WHENN GAIJIN???

>>180203730
you forgot that japan fights from the same side americans do at that BR, which makes the difference irrelevant

the actual fucked up part is germany getting a better sabre and never having to face migs in it

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When?

>>180204442
Wanna bet Germany will get a swept wing F-84 before America does?

Honestly if Gaijin took the G.91 in its current state and swapped the puny quad fiddies with the 30 mm cannons the German version had, that would be a good 9.0 jet for Germany. The G.91 already performs much better than most 9.0s and almost on par with the top dogs save for the top speed, anyway.

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>>180205034
>>180204442
>Germany gets MiG-15
>doesn't get any GDR tanks like T-55 or BMP-1
Autism triggered.

>>180205221
Adding the nazimig was objectively a mistake.

Matchmaking NATO, WP, and axis improperly is fucking criminal.

Reminder that there are no bad or good vehicles, only bad or good players. Russian bias? No, just better players. Germany doing badly? Shitty players.
Gaijin has made a balanced game and if you disagree it's just that you're a bad player.

>>180206476
Agreed, it's imho the only vehicle were Gaijin should go back on and hide it. Anybody who researched it can keep it but make it non-available at this point. Replace it with the 30mm G.91 or an F-84F as the finisher of the FW line.
That way Germany will have a sensible progression in both planes and tanks from the Wehrmacht to the Bundeswehr.

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Say something nice about this plane

>>180206791
Agreed comrade)))))))))

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>>180206791
Not that I disagree but Gaijin screwed up ground-forces high tiers by creating an unnecessary powercreep.
By now we've got to the 1970s even though initially the July 27, 1953 deadline was supposed to apply to tanks as well. Which was Gaijin's big mistake in the first place.
Top tiers should've been the IS-3, T-44 and ISU-122 for the Soviets and Tiger II, Panther G and Jagdtiger for Germany. The entire Cold War mess could've been avoided.

>>180207419
It's true though. Look at german teams and how shittily they play with obviously better tanks. Look at russian teams and how well they play with crude, roughly engineered tanks and still outsmart other teams.
Or look at the brits pre-HESH. They have tanks that can take a nuke and guns that can punch a hole through a mountain and still can't get kill or get on objectives.

>>180188884
if they're non-mk 24 griffons outclimb and outrun them

>>180207126
Removing/hiding the Nazimig at this point would accomplish nothing, virtually everyone has it

>>180208145
There are tons of people who don't have it, senpai.

>>180208145
It would still mean no more new Nazimigs.

>>180207304
It goes BRRRRT

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Which Ta 152 is the best?

>>180206791
>play britbong
>need 4 shots to take out enemy tank because I need to snipe every enemy crew member individually
>shoot T-34-85's frontal armor with my 17-pounder
>target undamaged
>get one shoted in return
>play next game as russkies
>go guns blazing like a retard with my KV-1
>one shot 5 people in a row
>end up with 12 kills and top place on the team
Sure thing, buddy. There are no bad tanks in this game.

>>180209017
Looks and IRL? Ta152 H.
War Thunder? C.

>>180209178
That just means your non-shitty team carried you enough and that your opponents were idiots who couldn't use their tanks properly. Just like I said.

>>180209470
what makes the C better than the H?

>>180205221
West and East Germany ordnance is in consideration according to Q&A. The main reason we don't have them yet is that Germans don't really need them in terms for tanks while their planes would end at 8.0 even with protoshit.

>>180209773
Armament. The H performs better at high altitudes which aren't a thing unless you actively try to climb to 10k or so.

>hurricane Mk IV is fantastic for deleting bombers
>attempts to climb up to bomber heights to attack them are at risk of being overtaken by the heat death of the universe

P40s vs biplanes is fair and balanced because American planes are hard to utilize effectively

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When?

>>180210702
>supersonic
>afterburner

>>180210949
If done right supersonic could be good, they would just have to ensure they never face subsonic planes, mig 19s fighting super sabers would be fun

Does the Seafire 47 perform as good as it looks?

>>180210639
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/6h6qip/any_reason_why_should_i_use_the_p36_or_p40e_over/

P26 is better than P40 (((

>making my way down the italian tree
>have to buy bombers to progress to tier 3
>take out the first SM just for laughs
>it's Korea
>slowly make my way to the minibase
>other bombers take out the other 2
>their fighters die
>our fighters die
>7 bombers left in total
>fly back to base to get more bombs
>on the way to the enemy airfield vow to myself to never do this shit again
>shits so mind-numbingly boring I'm about to go crazy
>fly back to our airfield to get more bombs and back to their airfield three more times, all the while contemplating suicide
>the other bombers on both teams are sideclimbing to 4000 meters each time for reasons I cannot fathom
>finally after a 40 minute game get the last delivery done and kill their airfield
>everyone is gg'ing in chat and saying this was a nice match

Is this what bombershitters want the game to be? I thought some people were just being cunts and dicks when they climbed to space after pressing spacebar a few times, but they actually LIKE doing fuck all for 40 minutes?

Is it true that the D9 performs better at high speeds with a full fuel load? I've been told that the increased fuel load helps compensate for the shit elevator and compression.

>>180211806
>I've been told that the increased fuel load helps compensate for the shit elevator and compression
How exactly would adding more weight to the plane do that? If anything it would make it fly even worse.

>>180211806
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXvPRph_o8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw0StK-gNBc
not worth the worse climb rate though imo

>He-100s, 109 E-1s, and c202s racing for the "EZ Kill" bombers and die to tail-gunners and engine fails

>Not letting the 110s do the bomber hunting

Fucking morons....

>>180211075
>naval aviation in war Thunder
>ever good
Do you even need to ask?

I literally do not understand why people think the P-51D-30 is bad

It climbs well, turns well especially at speed and with flaps, rolls well at speed, has fucking godly energy retention, literally outruns almost everything it faces

Even a shitter should do okayly in it enough to have 1:1 KDR

cool

http://battle-for-europe.clansweb.us/

>>180213027
Terrible players, plus it suffer from not really fitting the meta and mediocre armament.

>>180213027
My theory is that most people who play are Americans and want to play USA first but they don't know how to play well so they suck and then think us planes suck because then can't get them to work. This is a big problem because then you get planes like the p47 and p51 which are insanely unsertiered just because most people who play them are complete noobs.

>>180213408
What meta does it not fit?

and after the fifty cal buff, its guns are on par with 2 or even 3 hispanos

i want to buy a joystick for historical battles,.. but that shit is so expensive and the link to that website isnt working (>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html)

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>tfw you get that single cp Frozen Pass map

>>180212919
You weren't here when the Bearcat was the best t4 fighter in the game?
And Zeros are naval planes too

>try out the sunderland Mk V
>realise it's a giant target that only carries x8 250lb bombs

Pls churchill why

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Guys im thinking over here in a great ideia to get free RP and Silver Lions.

Both Team agree to dont kill each other everyone go to one cap point tem A cap, they leave the Cap zone, team B cap the zone and do it until time go off.

It's possible?

>>180214003
>What meta does it not fit?
High accelaration turn fighters with cannons
>and after the fifty cal buff, its guns are on par with 2 or even 3 hispanos
I honestly don't see it. Despite the .50 cal buff, I still found myself surviving a pass from an american plane far more often that of a british or german plane.

>>180215130
XD

>German and Russian team
>La-7B-20's, 190 D-9's and IL-10's

>British and American team
>Mk 22's, F8F's and a B29

What?

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>>180214685
It's for comfy long patrols far away from enemy fighters

WHAT IS UP GUYS PHLY HERE WELCOME BACK TO THE CHANNEL

>cap all points
>destroy all enemy ground forces
>there's 2enemy bombers left
>gotta afk and pray u don't get bombed for 5mins
>????

FOR WHAT PURPOSE AHHHH

>>180216572
WAT UP EVERYONE! ITZ YA BOY, SLICKBEE!

>>180216839
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDAY LADIES AND GENTS AND WELCOME BACK TO WAR THUNDER WITH MAGZ

>>180211381
New players seem to just have a reflex to keep pushing maneuvers even if they know they should not. Obviously this guy is brand spanking new at planes, but I've known many new or bad players personally who get very frustrated fighting biplanes in 109's and p40's to the point of claiming they are more dangerous than monoplanes.

>>180214685
Some things aren't meant for pitched battles.

>>180216954
>tfw blowing kids out in the cannon chaika

>>180216929
Free Golden Eagles for War Thunder
Download the app in the description below.

Guess the WT shilltuber

>>180217415
The iron Armenian

>>180217415
Orange.

>>180217415
Slick.

>>180217730
Ding. We got a winner.

Also,
>2017
>Still shilling for a "free ge" app that you can get banned by gaijin for using

>>180216572
>>180216839
>>180216929
You bunch of delusional fags have shit taste in WT youturds

>>180218248
Okay Bohica_Ice.
Nobody watches you vids anymore.

>>180218393
How'd you know?
he's objectively the best though

When was the last patch that made an effort to improve the existing game mechanics, rather than introduce more shitty maps and OP tanks?

>in ba88 one enemy p39 left
>spot him and warn my teammates
> friendly 109 5k meters away says "plane one my tail help meccccccccccc;"
>flies away to strafe aa with our other fighter
>p39 decides to ignore me and follow our fighters
>let him kill both of them before engaging to help a 87
Btw ba88 moved to 1.7 when? P40 to 3.0 when?

>>180218553
1.69 - smoke grenades

>>180218479
He's only the best when being a knock off bismark doing history videos over wt gameplay, otherwise it's just squads in tier two or below videos

>>180218850
>implying rank 3 and above is playable and fun as rank 2 and 1

>>180219063
>implying any of it is worth watching
There is zero reason to watch raw wt gameplay on YouTube

>>180218759
That hardly counts, does it?

>>180219326
>>180219063
>>180218850
>>180218479
>watching someone play instead of playing yourself

>>180219702
Thats why nobody really watches Boh's videos.
They're not even review videos. It's just him dicking around with his much loser friends feeding him easy kills and being his meat-shield

>>180219702
Do you have brain damage? I just said that you autistic spaz

>>180214046
logitec extreme 3d pro, don't waste more money unless you know what you are doing

>>180183406
looks as a teamkill by ramming on taking off

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>ywn win the lottery, buy gaijin, and then use customer data to send subhuman slav hitmen to murder everyone who bought an IS-6

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>put at least 300 rounds into a Hampton
>kill his engine
>"crit" his landing gear
>drifts into a tree not 7 seconds after my last burst
>he crashed, no kill))))))))))

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>>180222236

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>>180222236

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>>180222236
>dipshit teammate dies to sunderland
>go lay into the sunderland's port wing
>he tries a high-g maneuver and his port wing rips off
>credit goes to dipshit teammate

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I guess it's good that they're making some kind of visible damage for HESH but this is just absurd.

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>there are people who STILL try to headon the he219

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>IS-6 squad thinks they can club in sim like they do in 6.7 RB
Not in my house.

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>Allies take island on Norway
>some helpful p47 destroyed all of the aaa earlier
>see four black dots sitting on the tar as I fly over in my heavy fighter

>>180225117
>br
The hero we need

>>180222858
A HESH hit should look almost nothing like that anyways. It should look like a massive circle that's had a layer of armour stripped away from the top of it.

>>180225215
that aaa is useless anyway, maybe only for warning

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quick, how do I land without any elevators

>>180228047
use your flaps or trim if you have it bound

>>180228047
Not gonna happen, just keep flying until the match ends.

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>>180228103
>trim still works without control surfaces

>>180228103
>>180228282
match ended, i should try that trim thing

>>180228047
Adjust flaps and engine power.
>>180228309
Seriously?

>>180228390
Well
>>180228103
Said that it did?

>>180228103
how Do I adjust trim? I only see it in the full real controls but it doesn't save when I go back to mouse aim.

>>180229025
You can't use it with mouse aim.

>>180228103
How does pitch trim work without an elevator?

What was the best piston powered fighter of WW2?

>American M46 had to have worse armour, worse mobility and worse penetration for it to be balanced at the same BR as the German Panther II

really activates my almonds

Where should you go on Jungle? It always seems like a clusterfuck

>>180230932
I like to go to the sea side, the south portion always felt too laney for me

>>180230932
I've had a bit of luck going straight through the middle, watch the ridgelines then approach the B (I think, the one with the tower) flag from the North. It either rolls the enemy team or gets you killed very quickly, which are the best outcomes when forced to play jungle.

>>180230728
Bearcat, there's no question.
>climb rate unmatched until the Mig-15, and double what most prop aircraft could do
>brute forced it's horribly unaerodynamic body up to within 1 MPH of the fastest prop fighter
>could turn circles around most if not all it's contemporaries
>carrier capable
>many cannons
It's just sad it's so underrepresented in WT

>abandoned factory
>whoever camps the hardest wins since it's all 100% flat

>>180232724
incredibly goofy

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>>180232772
>it's a 'entire team rushes c' episode
>It's a 'entire team dies on c' episode

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>>180233247

>3 cap points
>most of the team goes to C, secluded and on the edge, and after a hard fought battle a few of us win the middle and the enemy have A and are pushing on us
>all the guys that massed C go to spawn camp
>meanwhile we face the entire enemy team and lose B
>all the spawncampers die, about a third or more of our team
>we get btfo
>could have easily won had they not just sat next to the enemy spawn

How bad do you have to be to fail at fucking spawncamping with like 5+ tanks holy shit.

>>180232724
Didn't use to be this way, Gaijin nerfed the fuck out of the bearcat years ago.

>>180233894
I played it back then, even pre nerf it wasn't as good as it should have been, the Bearcat (and a few other super props like the Sea Fury) would be game breaking with realistic performance, they'd be 7.0+.

>>180234076
Old bearcat was lacking almost no performance tho

I think you might have it mistaken with the F8F-2

>>180233715
a single enemy takes A, real niggas skirmish around b, retards get culled on c that's the only way abandon factory plays. Oh and spawn camping is mandatory, because having each spawn funnel across open ground overlooked by walls and blind corners is good map design

>>180234249
>tfw taking A then rolling north through the side of the entire enemy team
Only way to play abandoned factory, i've seen an object 906 roll an entire team almost solo.

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>americlaps and teamonkeys lose all of their tanks trying to drive directly into our spawn point
>by the end there are like 5 of the niggers swooping around with maximum rocket loadouts
>they win because there is literally no way to defend yourself against this shit

>>180234892
>there is literally no way to defend yourself against this shit
>has an entire line of tanks dedicated to defending against this shit

what did he mean by this

>>180235189
>here let me delete my only good tank from ever appearing in the match again to get into an ostwind that will just get rocketed by one of the 4 other rocketniggers that I can't simultaneously shoot at

>>180232724
>It's just sad it's so underrepresented in WT
Most allied late/postwar props are undermodeled for balance reasons, or else they'd completely stomp axis planes, which is why the sea fury is apparently underperforming, and why griffons run at 18 psi (save for the mk 24 which runs at ~21 psi boost) boost instead of the 25 psi they could historically run at

>>180235319
>why get into my Ostwind to shoot down the fucking swarm of low, slow P-47s when I could get into my eighth tiger 2 and try and kill the one tank left on the enemy team
>"wtf why did I get kill by planes!"

It makes sense you're a German player.

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>>180194254
>Panther's gun
>185mm of pen
>br 5.0 with constant downtiers at 4.3 to 4.7; though still useful at 5.3+
>Rubble and tank carcasses in city maps is ideal to make the panzerIV A into an impenetrable wall

I-its bad though!!

>>180235498
Not P-47s, Typhoons and Wyverns.

>>180235576
They're fuckin planes, aren't they?

>>180235649
Alright let's see some webms of you shooting at 4+ swooping typhoons and wyverns without dying.

>>180235810
I'd have to go through a thousand battles to find allied pilots that aren't just doing lazy low circles or zooming overhead shooting at nothing.

What I would like to see is some webms from this match you just had that has such incredible allied pilots, though. Flying so fast and coordinating so well that apparently not even an Whirbelwind with four 20mm 800rpm cannons could have a chance of shooting even a single one of them down.

How do I git gud
I'm just fucking awful and I don't know how to win

>>180236696
bait your team

>>180236696
Are you a free bird or a mud sucker?

>g.55s sideclimbing with me
>teamkill him for being a subhuman
>get outnumbered later on
worth it

>>180237407
>having autism

>>180237407
MOMS GONNA FREAK

>>180237495
>>180237565
>They dont tk wallet warrior faggots

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>tfw first post in months
Did you miss your resident gayposter? (•ω•)/

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>see video of chink tree
>M3A3
>M4A4
>T-34-85 with DShK
>better PT-76 model
>Type 65
>P-51K
>F-86F-30
I'm mad

>>180238274
vid where

>>180238380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpuvrILV0I

Brazil tech tree when??

>>180238872
H U E
U
E

bringing the P-39 into 5.7 matches is probably the most fun I've ever had with this game

literally nothing beats killing a naziboo flying wet dream in your fucking 3.0 plane

>>180195680
The only crime he committed was not killing even more slavs.

>>180239221
>not playing P-63
???

>>180239315
>can't outturn K-4s in a sustained turn
no thanks

>>180238872
all tech trees are brazilian/russian tech trees since only these kinds of subhumans would a shit game like war blunder

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Should I go back and research the F-82 after my first Baby Burger Jet?

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>>180238536
>second nation is not France
>it is a nation of copy pasted assets and pre-applied decals
>all for a market of subhumans below Slavs or Brazilians
Disgusting

if gaijin actually did wise up and removed all post war shit from WT and put it in a new game, how would the tech trees work?
just HATO and Warsaw Pact?

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>>180238536
Hey we already have half the wargame roster

>>180240054
that tree is in the chink-only server you stupid nigger

>>180241018
Fuck you doble nigger

>>180240380
Same as now, Britain, US, West Germany, USSR, and probably France all have enough for a tree, they'd have to make arty and IFVs lines because MBTs, AAs, and ATGMs aren't enough to make a full tree. Don't know what other nations there could be, maybe Japan and GLORIOUS CZECHNOLOGY.

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>when ur squidm8 is still in the closet and afraid to touch tips

How is OBJ 906 in top tier?
I just noticed it has a autoloader. How does reloading speed points affect this? Does this mean if your crew is knocked out by the time they recover there will always be a round ready to go?
Also how does it do with the stock shells? It's a long way to the HEAT-FS 300 mm bullshit round.

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>>180238536
>Tankfags BTFO
>Frogfags BTFO

>>180244091
see >>180241018

>>180244091
more like non chinks btfo
and if you looked, all premiums are worth GE, and all are cheaper

immortal meme bunker juice tanks removed when?

>>180244553
>jew tanks
But America isn't that overpowered

Is there a better GF map than Sim Tunisia? It's fucking incredible.

>>180207304
the three forward machineguns are fucking amazing especially since they're stacked vertically
It could use a down tier because that rear gun is dead weight and the bombload is comepletely useless but it's not the worst performing groundattacker in game

>>180245343
Only knifefight city maps for you kid

>>180238536
>russian tanks
Why
>roundel of the republic of china
Is that even allowed in the PRC?
>M4A4, M3A3, P-51k and other vehicles from the US and USSR
Again? Another country is getting more advanced versions of another countries vehicle?
>none of the tanks have special paintscheme
Hate to drive them in sim, get teamkilled all the time.
The flags in the chink censor version is pretty cool and does anyone know what the song is?

>>180239802
It is best heavy fighter in the game ATM so it's up to you.

>>180183598
I think its considered pretty bad stock but my seafire FR 47 clubs at alt, keeping in mind that its spaded, it can keep up with P-80s on Hokkaido

>>180247728
>seafire
>turboprop
The only turboprop currently in game is the Wyvern.

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This thread has been blessed with the genius of Kurt Tank

Good flights and dead spitfires will come to you, but only if you post "Thank you based Kurt Tank!" in this thread

>>180249052
danke bösed

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>>180249052

>>180250815
i keep seeing lefties use this to make fun of naziboos and it pisses me off like based harris woudln't firebomb the shit out of the liberal faggots

>you stuck with this shitty game long enough for American tanks to finally become good
It's the dawn of a new age brehs

>>180246135
>M4A4
>more advanced

>Pz IV F2 still isn't at 4.0
>KwK 37 reload still hasn't been fixed
nazicunt bias is sharp and constant, isn't it

>>180252091
>forty (40) millimeters of frontal armor, maximum
I get that the gun is good man but it's on a reserve chassis
The G definitely deserves to be 4.0 though

>>180252215
>armor is everything
if you're not a retard and don't get hit you fucking club you nimrod
and it's 50
don't argue for things you don't know about

>>180252215
>hellcat has 13mm
>is 5.3
???

>>180252487
>Wah wah wah my slav tanks can easily pen both of these as long as I don't play like a retard
>play like a retard
>"I don't know what went wrong!"
You get what you deserve for getting sidepenned, T34aboo

>>180252487
Jesus man calm down
Other than the gun the F2 has literally nothing else going for it
>implying the discrepancy between 40 and 50 millimeters matters when most players aim for your fat fucking unangled slab of a UFP

>>180252956
>everyone who hates nazicunts are slavchimps
nice argument
>>180252976
then why is the M18 so high?
don't complain mobility, the Pz IV F2 is not a slow tank by any means

>>180252569
The hellcat is actually fast and can sometimes take advantage of overpen if it wins the hull break diceroll
The F2 is slower than the other mediums at its tier and has just enough armor and internal space that APHE rounds will detonate

>>180253045
see
>>180253047

>>180253161
>F2 is slower than other mediums at it's tier
faster than an M4
reloads faster than a T-34
over 50mm more penetration than both

>>180253252
It has the shittest armor and is only the 2nd best looking of the three.

>>180253252
>faster than an M4
Technically correct but in reality this doesn't hold up, on most maps the higher ground pressure of the F2's skinny-ass treads make it slower than quite a few other tanks at its tier in practice

>>180233247
>play abandoned factory
>me and like 2 other dudes circle around points A and B eliminating capping them and destroying any enemy tank in the area
>still loses because teammates lost most of their vehicles assaulting C point time and time again
It fucking hurts. Why do people even go there in such a number, fighting on A and B is far more exciting.

>>180253045
>nice argument
Well let's look at a problem instead. What nation are you using to take on the fearsome Pz. IV? Where are you trying to strike the tank? What ammo are you using? These will help everyone here greatly understand what your issue is.

>>180254164
Who knows man, I honestly really enjoy the A and B points on there. It probably would be better if C was either a lot closer or not even in there and it was just those portions of the map for people to play on. Would be a lot of killzones and chokepoints however.

What gun settings for mig-15bis? I keep missing shots I wouldn't if i was in a p47/La7/FW190 or even the mig9/L

So I just unlocked the Jagdpanther and it is the first time that I can finally enjoy high tier battles. I'm destroying those fucking IS-2s and T44s like they are nothing.

In comparison both the Tiger 2s and the Panthers were nothing but pain...

>>180254939
You just unlocked it, just wait a bit until your paper thin armor gets punched through by stalin shells, and T-44s show up on your flanks out of nowhere. That tank is just as painful as the Tiger II or the Panther, but its lack of turret seems to make people stupid.

>>180252487
>don't get hit you fucking club
kinda applies to any tank, doesnt it ???

>>180254939
it was fun tank when people didnt have apds or heat-fs... armor actually did something

>>180255361
not if you have a shit gun

>>180254939
> have trouble with Tiger II/panthers
> don't have trouble with Jagdpanther
?????????????????????????????????????
How the fuck

>>180255712
Not him but Tiger IIs have a good gun but slow as fuck, not like armor matters much when HEAT-FS is a thing. And all Panthers but II suffer from either bad gun control (D) or simply a bad gun if you're using them at 6.3 or 6.7. The Jagdpanther is faster than a Tiger II while having the same gun.

>>180255712

They always broke through my goddamn turret from every angle. Didn't matter from what range, what position, they always penetrated it and blew up my ammo, even when I halved it.

>try out Maus after some time
>get instantly raped
>check my K/D
>its 263 / 128

not sure how

>>180255957
>even when I halved it
You should keep about 25 rounds for your average game.

>>180242572
8/10 tank
You reck everything qith your stockround in one shot so gettimg cheatfs will feel like a downgrade
It can be killed by HMGs but getting hit in the first place means you are doing it wrong anyway

>>180253529
>only the 2nd best looking of the three.
wow what an argument its BR should be lowered for being bad looking
Who the fuck care about the look?

>>180259320
>care about the look?
War thunder autismo, theres even suggestion to be able to remove side skirts

>shoot m46 near driver from side
>hit cam shows i hit upper front plate
????
some time later i did shoot again m46 and hit cam showed same shit

>get shot directly on top of the tank with no angle, like it was a bomb dropped

what magic is this?

>>180261914
low velocity ?

brummbar for example

>>180261914
If it was HE, it could have been artillery, you can see their tracers coming down now like they're actual shells too

>>180262129
>Artillery
>Tracers

Fucking what?

>>180262158
If you pay attention to an arty strike you can see the smoke trail from them before they land

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>>180253529

>Pz. IV
>Bad looking

DELET THIS AT ONCE

>>180259320
Not him but I legit fuss over my customisation a lot because even if i'm the only one who'll look close, I still want to like how my tank or plane looks. Don't like stuff that looks really weird or awkward design-wise either.

>>180262123
>>180262129
it was is-2 or t34 85 i don't remember, but not arty shot

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>>180262158
thats no arty, its low orbit cannon

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>>180262757
>russian
Well, that shines some light on things. Still damned odd, though, I've never seen bullshit of that caliber from a slavwagon before

>tfw trying out churchill vii
>shot noone, capped nothing
>still top 3score wise

who said brits have no armour?

>>180263709
Probably someone slinging slavic APHE

>>180180203
I've just started playing this game and it seems a lot of fun. Do you have any advice for someone that just jumped in?

>>180263709
dont remember which churchill but i got first place like this... slav kv1 kept shooting my barrel out right after i repaired it and made 1 shot
>>180264624
start as slavs or krauts for easier life as beginner, it stops being fun after 3rd tier

>>180264709
>start as slavs or krauts for easier life as beginner, it stops being fun after 3rd tier
I played like 1 game with krauts and 2 with soviets and I really like the T26

>>180264774
tier2 germans are most fun imho, F2 1shots everything and is agile af

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>Client stability has been improved

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>play nazicunts again because smoke
>do great every match
>but always lose because nazi players are literally in comas they're so braindead
why
this is unacceptable

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>>180267825
after im done getting smoke for the m and iv g ill come play, so you arent completely surrounded by tards,

also post battle damage

>>180267825
>3 kills, 3 deaths
>"do great"

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FUGGGGGGGGGG

>>180268032
>battle damage
one and done for me, constant uptier means I'm literally a paper target
>>180268070
you get absolutely surrounded instantly and tell me how you do

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>mfw always top 3 on the nazi side
>usually with 3.0 K/D because who the fuck knows why
>lose most matches because of retarded team

>>180264624


Planes are much better than tanks in pretty much everything - gameplay, economics, grind amount. But they may be difficult for newbie. Best way to donate is to buy premium for a year/half of year or any of high tier premium crafts during game birthday sale near halloween or at new year sale. Also you can do same things for free through investing your time into reference accounts (about 5 hours per one). Most OP nations at current state of game are murrica after browning buff and soviets as usually.