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Old Thread >>180124364
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FOREST IS SAVED NOT
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Neutral forest shaping up to be decent
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For the unfunny, retarded nigger who posts this image every thread
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69206

Please concede
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POST CARDS YOU WANT TO FUCK in the ass
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>>180147668
Which 3 neutrals are gonna be in forest's hand? I know feena and goblin mage so far. Whats the third one? Grimmnir?
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Started maining shadow in unranked and my winning streak is ridiculous. Why is everyone there so bad?
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>>180147580
That girl's got some semen stuck in her paizuri hole
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>>180147786
Yes.
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>gbf op
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>>180147781
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>9 memes early
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/ourguy/
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>>180147815
>playing shadow in unranked
Unless it's atomeme, go die in a gutter.
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>>180147771
Thanks Erika!
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>>180147691
>t buttmad shadownigger.
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>>180147975
>replying to obvious bait
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>White Paladin
>Immediately followed by Amelia or Aurelia
Why doesn't Control Sword work?
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>>180147781
Someone needs to wipe the smug off her face
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>>180148113
No win condition
Bahamut
No board clear
Most removals are bound to followers which dont fit csword
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>>180147786
Grimnir, Looking Glass, Teena, Eggsplosion
>>180147908
>神撃のバハムート in image
>gbf
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>>180148181
>No win condition
they have leonidas + albert though
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this deck is fun against the ai
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@180148017
LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>the meta now is just storm dragon and shadow
>even if you go 100% heal and wards you still lose because storm cards are so overvalued, and removal does nothing to shadow

This game has really been so frustrating to play for months now.
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>>180148298
Well enjoy the same thing but with more blood next expansion.
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Get ready to see these cards in ever deck
>Grimnir
>Gobu
>Feena
>Unica
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>>180148438
>Grimnir in every deck
What's the difference?
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>>180148298
It's Shadow, Dragon and Blood now actually
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>>180148298
>storm dragon
You mean KYS blood
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>>180148438
>Get ready
>Grimnir
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Reminder that the knife ears will only be satisfied with a turn 5 20 damage roach
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>>180148298
PICK
A
TOP
TIER
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>>180147786
You aren't playing this on a Roach deck. You are playing this on a dedicated Neutral deck with all of the new support. Your deck will be mostly Neutrals. Having 3 in your hand won't be hard, it doesn't need to be the ones Forest plays in Roach/Wolfbolt
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>>180148535
They need to die and get converted to a better side.
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Concede, shadownigger. I don't want to dirty my lance from your filth.
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Does gobu count as draw
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>>180147815
>Shadow in unranked
Kill yourself
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>>180147668
>It's a card is understatted because it puts fairies in your hand episode
Fucking reruns.
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>>180148803
>completely ignores 6 face damage for free
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>Csword still didn't get a win con that isnt grind
Why
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>>180148181
>No win condition
>What is Albert
>What is Leonidas
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>>180148854
Albert
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Been playing seriously for about a week now and what I like about this game is that you can make a top tier deck without spending much money. So far I've spent $6 and I managed to make Shadow Aggro.

I wonder how long will this continue though, I have a feeling the Company will get greedy one day and make their game like Heartstone.
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>>180148851
>6
thornburst is 3
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>>180148851
>"free"
where?
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>>180148950
Why did you even spend money?
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>>180148854
>Dragon got there wincon taken away
Why
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>>180148905
You can just play midrange if you want albert
And Csword doesn't run leonidas, far too slow even for a fucking control deck
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>>180148950
They already started with Tempest of the Gods by doubling the amount of legendaries in a set.
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>forest gets a free levi + increase the dmg of your wincon by 2 (or 5 if you include levi)
>STILL complain

Yare yare
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>>180148950
It already started. There used to be 1 new Legendary card per class per expansion, now there's 2.
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>>180148663
Localization when.
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>>180149081
>Poly Roar
>Genesis
>Forte
>Zeus
>even fucking Satan
>"taken away"
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>>180147668
>4pp
eh
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I thought CSword wincon was tempo with Fangblade, Frontguard, Durandal etc
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>>180149101
>it doesn't count because Midrange also uses it
???
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>>180148851
I hope you're not implying that you should count hypothetical roach damage when discussing its fanfare.
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Seriously, when are they going to release new prebuilts?
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>>180148950
There won't.
Japanese market is competitive as fuck, if they don't suck the balls of their costumers they will fuck off to another more generous game.

Yugioh is a prime example of this.
In Japan, Yugioh cards prizes are around 50% to 90% cheaper compared to american ones.
Products are generous with pullrates.
They create promo products with premade tier 1 decks all the time.
Also they revist fan favorites all the time with legacy support.

Yugioh in america is a complete different animal.
Cards are so hard to pull that playsets of important shit can go around 600$.
Packs are complete shit with no value.
We never get promos of cool shit that japan gets.
Banlists have literally no date of release or expiration.

Because if Konami would try to pull that shit on Japan, the japs would just stop buying.
Americans are different, you abuse them and they continue playing (see HS)
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>>180149313
Every Sword deck's primary wincon is Albert
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>>180149041
No idea..i have a habit of spending money on mobile games and it felt strange that shadowverse is so f2p friendly.
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>>180149458
Konami even unbans cards so that nips dont have to buy a new nerfed set
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>>180149458
So you're saying, Cygames still has the possibility to start fucking the American players?
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Is Vania worth to craft?
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Shadowverse is mostly an ad to get people into RoB and GBF
GBF is their big moneymaker
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>>180148745
yes
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>>180148231
>>180148905

Albert is an iffy win condition for Control because you probably won't have them low enough to consistently win turn nine. The problem is quite a few things actually.

- Wards and heals are trash in this game. You won't outheal storm damage and wards won't help you deal with Shadow because they never run out of fuel
- Bahamut single handily killed follower based control decks completely. The concept of out valuing is gone, which is why archetypes like Control Blood and Earth Rune literally do not exist anymore.
- Lack of reliable win conditions. Leonidas is extremely slow and is at the absolute best a turn ten win, which will have you lose against aggro and control matchups
- The more you add Sword's stronger cards, the less you can control. It just becomes more and more storm heavy, in which case you might as well go midrange or aggro
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>>180149458
KoA turned a Structure Deck into a fucking pack. Thank god I stopped playing that shit IRL.
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Reminder that pregnant jannu is canon in gbf
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>>180149683
kinda weird theyre trying so hard to turn this ad into an esport
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>>180148404
>>180148508
>>180148486

What Blood deck are people running right now? Got any decklists?

>>180149313
This game heavily punishes any kind of value or tempo based deck. You either go 100% face or have a OTK.
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>>180149675
Not anymore. Play kys blood instead. Vampy-chan was mostly used for aggro bats which isn't that good anymore.
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>>180149790
Who is the dad?

God?
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>>180149643
We have been already "fucked" with small things like

>No "Whale" Sleeves for America (like Daria)
>No Idol Master Sleeves for America
>Relatively small tournament scene compared to Japan

But probably it won't go beyond that, and mostly because most of the shit that I mentioned doesn't catter to american normalfags
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>>180149683
It's not, this was 2 months ago but I remember some anon posting the statics. Shadowverse makes more money than GBF.
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>>180149683
SV makes more money than GBF, tough. Some anon linked an article about the most profitable mobages some time ago that stated that.
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>>180149885
Technically, her guardian angel, Michael.
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>>180149885
Me
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>>180149458
This is also a nip mobile game so they encourage whaling with animated cards and dailies for mid level people rather than the shitty Hearthstone way of forcing people to binge $60 in one go to get the most out of their money.
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>>180149790
So is in RoB
Your point?
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>>180149683
There has been only 1 collab event between SV and GBF (and you didn't even need to di anything in GBF to get the prizes), and 0 between RoB and SV other than the anime Twitter thing. There has been no effort to try to push SV players into those games. If what you are saying were true, they would've made events that actually required you to play RoB/GBF.
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Should I keep opening Tempest packs, yay or nay?
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>>180150146
(you)
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>>180149894
Idolm@ster never released in the west so you will not be getting any future idolm@ster colab things either
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>>180149820
The only good Blood deck? Kys Blood obviously.
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>>180150191
You could technically get them, just only japanese players will ever see them.
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Forest Princess actually looks pretty good because of the not so hidden roach support. Thorn Burst is deal 3 damage to an enemy, r-right?
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>>180150073
Only in the anime. The anime isn't cannon, it's its own thing.
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>>180150337
Just play EPM if yo uwant roach
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>>180148905
Albert isn't a good control wincon and Leonidas is so slow that he's near unplayable
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>>180149857
>>180150269
What does it look like these days though? The version I've been running has not been doing well at all. Against Shadow and Sword I just auto lose by turn three.
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>>180149790
How is that pregnant
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>>180150419
Post your deckline maybe we can critque. Alternatively just netdeck
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>>180150648
But Angel of the Word is gay.
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>>180150191
>>180150334
Does anyone remember how to activate them again? I have them on my account but lost it with the last expansion. The OP pastebin has nothing on it.
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>>180149820
3 Belphegor
3 Dealer
3 Airjammer
3 Wolf
3 Yurius
3 Spiderweb Imp
3 Succubus
3 Devil of Vengeance
3 Dark general
3 Laura
3 Diabolic Drain
3 Razor Claw
3 Hungering Hoard
1x Your choice

You can run less Laura or Succ if you want more of your choice but otherwise the list is pretty rigid.
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>>180150414
>EPM needs 1 evo point to give you two zero cost fairies
>FP is a fanfare that gives you two fairies and a thorn burst with a relatively easy condition to follow through
>two extra damage on roach vs five, three of which can go through wards
Not sure yet how it'll turn out in practice, but looks good on paper.
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>>180150419
No 1 drop
Yurius, Spider, Wolf
Laura
Belphegor, Souldealer, Dark General
Airjammer
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Rin is CUTE.
CUTE!
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>>180150702
You have to install the Swahilian version of Shadowverse.
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>>180150337
For 2pp yeah.
>Literally worse CS that's harder to get
Sasuga
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>>180150768
Rin a shit.
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>people comparing the new card with EPM
Why not both?
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>>180150419
I've been having a lot of success with this after experimenting with others a lot. For whatever reason game ai lists have stopped running SD and DoV and thrown in 1 drop shit but I find going for consistency with 2 dealers and 2 blood pacts
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>>180150892
Oh, it's for 2 PP. Rip, thought it was like crimson sorcery. Back to the forest for me I guess
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All I have wanted since I first started playing this game in DE was for Control Blood and/or Earth Rune to feel strong. The more cards they add, the worse Control Blood feels. The amount of Storm cards being added constantly is insane. Classic Control Blood is such a fun deck, but it is in the wrong game. It would fair a lot better in something like Hearthstone, unfortunately. There's just no reward for outvaluing your opponent.
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>>180150702
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=788439931
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>>180150997
Yeah. That's the third or forth reason nobody plays rose queen
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>>180151002
did you see al the fucking broken shit cblood gets with WD
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>>180151119
Did you see all the broken shit it got in the last three expansions too? It is always exactly the same

>devs intentionally give cblood a bunch of new cards and tools
>they look extremely strong
>early on everyone flocks to aggro blood to counter the new meta
>control blood feasts on the aggro blood
>people think cblood is strong because of it
>another week or two pass by and people realize how awful cblood is
>it fades into non existence

Turn 6 five 5/5s ended up being trash. Turn 8 five 5/5s without sacrificing tempo also ended up being trash.
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>>180151045
Thanks
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Someone post me a viable roachdeck for daily.
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>>180151326
>viable forest deck
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68182

I need a private win, please.
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Best your best albertless sword deck
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>>180151320
How bad the shitstorm will be if cblood fails to gain any traction again while retarded windmill and obvious eachtar spam dominates t1?
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>>180151326
1x reroll button
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>>180151508
Wouldn't be surprised, hell it would be funny to see blood have another tier 1 deck for only 20 minutes again.
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>>180150706
You forgot grimnir anon
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>>180151326
After reading this post I greedily rerolled a 1x Shadow mission into a 1x Forest mission, fuck you.
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>switch to nip
>que unranked to do dailies
>Get matched up vs d rankers

What
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>>180151773
Blizzard matchmaking.
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>>180151697
Grimnir is an alternative to Succ but I tend to prefer Succ since she's a pseudoward for most people until the spiderwebmobile comes into play.
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>>180147668
4pp levi awww yeah only 5pp to play the spell to and 7pp to play the fairies
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When's the new expansion coming?
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>>180151876
>Only 5pp to play the spell
I have some bad news Anon.
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>>180151773
>t. D rank
>>180151921
End of the month 29th?
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Need a concede onegai!

83764
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Can someone give me a JO deck? I want to meme.
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>>180152007
Thanks unfortunate teen mother forte
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>>180151415
>>180151552
>>180151702
You still can try your luck in unranked.
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>>180152214
I swear that guy is doing everyones conceding all the time
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>>180152480
i want to sexually abuse him
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>>180152480
/ourconcedeslut/
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>>180152001
I think I gonna not wait anymore and just get the undub files from the jp app. Those free chink packs reverted the game to the dub version and it's been a pain since then.
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>>180152839
Eidolon is fucking viable now but bullshit like that ruins every single deck. Shadow and Blood 80% winrate need to go.
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>>180152839
Should have just themis'd bro.
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>>180152981
I'm still new to haven and I'm still trying to figure it out.

>>180153134
He had claw too, I was fucked,
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>cue into Sword as Forest
>going second
>okaywekeepallofthemays.jpg
>turn 1 front lines
>oh
>wait for it
>turn 3 pepe
>double may to kill it
>ggezwin

I'm actually amazed he didn't just scoop it up on the spot. He never dealt any damage over 10 or 11 turns.
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Followers summoned with Necromancy effects should not fucking add Shadows back when they fucking die
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>>180152981
Really? Show me a good deck with it.
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>>180153360
Shadow sinks are expensive and leave an already understatted follower without even a decent keyword

Necromancy procs
1pp skeleton fighter Necro (1) gain +1/+1
1pp Ghostly grasp Necro(8) destroy enemy follower
2pp Skeleton Viper Necro(4)gain +1/+1 and ward
2pp Lesser Mummy Necro (4) Gain storm
2pp Deadly Widow Necro(6) Gain +2/+2
2pp Little Soulsquasher Necro(4) destroy evolved enemy follower
2pp Undying resentment Necro (2) Deal 4 damage instead
2pp Ethereal Form Necro(4) Give +2/+0 to that follower
2pp Grave Desecration Necro(4) generate a zombie at the end of your opponents turn
3pp Apprentice Necromancer Necro(4) summon a zombie
3pp Goetia Mage Necro(4) destroy enemy amulet
3pp Madame Lich Necro(6) give all allied followers bane
3pp Feathered Patroller Necro(4) deal 2 to an enemy follower
3pp Zombie Buccaneer Necro(2) gain last wordS: summon a zombie
3pp Goblin Zombie Necro(4) At the end of your turn gain +2/+2
3pp Foul Tempest Necro(6) deal 3 instead
3pp Deathbrand Necro(4) destroy an enemy with 4 or more def insteads
4pp Skull Rider Necro(6) Deal 4 damage to an enemy follower
4pp Wight King Necro(4)Gain +1/+1 ward, bane
4pp Phantom Howl Necro(1) summon a ghost, repeat until area is full
5pp soulhungry wraith Necro(4) gain +1/+1 and ambush
5pp Commander of Destruction Necro (4) gain +2/+1
5pp Charon Evolve: Necro(6) Summon a lich
5pp Call of the void Necro(4) summon a zombie
6pp Deathly Tyrant Necro(20) gain +10/+10
6pp Death's Breath Necro(6) give all allied zombie +0/+1 and ward
7pp Cursed Soldier Necro(4) deal 4 damage to the enemy leader
7pp Orcus Necro(4) restore 4 def to you leader
7pp Eachtar Necro(3) summon a zombie until your area is full
9pp andras Necro(4) Gain storm
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>>180153360
this really
>eachtar
>clear
>eachtar
>clear
>still have enough to fucking kill you with the howl combo
always gives me a headache
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>>180153396
Just get x3 Eidolon, some nice amulets, no hare of shit and you're set.
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>>180153459
Im not saying using Necromancy, but Followers summoney by it should not count cause basically that is a -1 necromancy
>spent 3 shadow summoning something.
>Its dies and gives back 1 shadow
>Theorically it only costed 2 shadows
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>>180153360
going by that logic fairies should not give shadows, all things summoned by amulets should not give shadows
>wanting to nerf and destroy an entire set of decklists for all crafts using PtP just because you are so fucking shit at the game
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>>180147668
>4pp
They could have at least made the fairies and thorn burst 0 for that cost and requirement
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>>180153604
is not a hard concept, he >>180153502 got it

shadows is fine for PtP, but shadows as the counter for Necromancy is bullshit, cause the Follower is basically pays back 1 shadow when he dies
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>>180153698
they never will cause 0PP roach

and if they nerf Roach they fuck the whole set cause nothing has even close much finish consistensy as roach.
and no, Jungle Warden does not count cause games on high lvl rarely ever get to 10PP
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>>180147668
>4pp
>thorn burst is 2pp
>fairies are 1pp each
Why is this card so expensive while being understatted as fuck? Why are people calling it levi? It's okay but nothing very good
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>>180153913
>has a neutral conditional too
is even more shit on curve
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>>180153913
Forest and Sword aren't allowed to have good cards anymore
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>>180153594
The activation cost is still a barrier and with costs set as they are, they'd all have to be lowered as a result.
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>>180154147
Combo is dangerous because it can very quickly get out of control in unexpected ways. See gobu

>>180153992
They're trying to keep forest's engine functional when you swap over
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>>180154147
meanwhile dragon
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>>180153913
>implying Neutral Roach Rose Queen won't be tier one
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Speaking of Thorn Burst, how the fuck is it fair that 1PP Fairies become essentially a 2PP Crimson Sorcery, when CS itself is 1PP?
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>>180153698
>4 cost
>wouldn't even take an evo to add 3 (THREE) zero cost cards into your hand
>thorn burst wouldn't even cost any board space but would still add to counter
This sounds retarded as fuck. They want to make new decks that DON'T require roach, not just continuously buff it.
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>>180154870
Roach is the glue that holds Forest together. Without him, that craft is nothing. They shouldn't be trying to phase it out, because they'll just end up printing garbage like they have been lately.
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I'm so confused.
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>>180154321
>let's make 2pp tutor that has enhance to reduce cost
>let's make 5pp rush that has enhance to tutor 6pp up
>let's make a 8pp that deals double damage when ambush and has last words that deal face damage!

Gobu+roach was suppose to bad due to consistency and they're now fucking pushing something worse.
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>>180155007
take 2 deck
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>>180155007
Let him hit you in the face to see the animation
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>>180155007
How did you fuck up this badly.
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>>180155119
He should just Bahamut
Fuck it
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AA0 and Master Class each games should be a best 2 of 3 with side decks
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>>180155007
just themis
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>>180155007
dumb dork
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>>180155007
You deserve it dragonnigger
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>>180155007
Looks like you got memed on son
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>>180153360
Would you prefer if Eachtar summoned Ghost?
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>>180155103
it's constructed

>>180155184
I thoguht he was a silver bolt deck saving his bolts until he could get me down to 18
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>>180155358
no but
Eachtar fulling board so if you die it regains shadows so he can necromancy anything else again next turn is bull shit
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>Oppaicraft makes my board into flame rats with Dragonclaw Pendant out
>Dies because of it
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>>180155425
Cool story, bro. What about White Paladin throwing out all those 1/1 wards? What about the turtle and her fishes? What about the new upcoming Knights of Trump?
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>>180155394
I know. But that's a take 2 deck with Wolf.
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>>180155545
I dont remeber any of those dying giving fulling back the Craft Trait.
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>>180155425
This is why I'm buttmad with zombie party and death's breath
>turn 6 death's breath
>clear the fuckers
>turn 7 3 zombies
>clear the fuckers
>8 EACHTAR
>dammit clear the fucker
>9 EACHTAR AGAIN
Fucking faggots, nerfing LB. They should just remove the amulet in mass banish

>>180155545
White Paladin's 1/1 ward sucks since they need evo to be shit even
Otomeme's 1/2 is meh need sage or walfrid, doesn't come with +2/0 and rush
Plus they don't fuel their next batch bullshitry

Eachtar is strong because of the ability to clear board while fueling his own and it usually leaves 1 or 2 body, primary eachtar and zombie if it was full board zombie rush.
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>>180155621
I don't remember treefuckers burning fairies in hand having anything to do with the class trait either.
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>>180155425
How's clearing eachtar's board into howl different from say, a dragon's board into forte?
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>>180155545
>only sword can be cancer
kys. Eachtar and the versatility of Zombie Party are broken as fuck.
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>No removal
>Only 1 card is a viable consistent finisher
>Craft is soo shitty implemented no meta deck or close uses 1 card of it
Why is forest such a shit craft??
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>>180155882
Cerberus, evolve, 4pp, aggro deck
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>>180155882
>how is a 11 damage 6 pp howl cerb combo different from a 7 damage farte
At least you don't die on turn 6
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so if everyone who hates shadow could just say what class they main. that would be great.
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>>180156319
>let's ignore turn 5, where I could have slapped in a forte there as well for a total of 14 damage
Yeah, no.
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>>180156368
rune and blood
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>>180155882
Card usage

Dragon needs one fat follower in board, you need 1 hard removal. Plop down ward, forte by herself is negated.

Eachtar has mass zombies, need hard mass removal which tend to be costly, can't ward up. Fuels your ghost that can facefuck you if they had dropped cerb earlier.
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>>180156368
i only play non cancer class like blood exclusively
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>>180154723
If you mean thorn burst in general, it's due to weakening your deck with fairy producers, having to sit on all that fairy in your hand which further weakens not only your deck and hand but the power of your plays. all so you hand out to turn EIGHT just to turn them into burn. Burn that can be calculated exactly and played around

For the flower lady, understatted so it doesn't do much to anyone playing defensively with value control plays. The cost of the play itself harms

Levi and disaster witch are otherwise balanced around it

>>180155097
I don't even know what's going to happen cause cthulu by itself is insane. No amount of beating on Baphomet, Bandersnatch, and arriet will change that. I don't know what the fuck they played in testing to make them think he was okay but I'm scared.

>>180155007
Where's your 3x bakamuts bro?
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That went fairly well. Also why is Roland so perfect?
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>>180156368
Bandwagoner is the key word. Shadow and Blood are broken deck piloted by bandwagons shitposters.
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>>180156368
Disco Dragon and Budget Forest
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>>180156491
Hello, Esl-kun.
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>>180156136
Jungle wolfbolt seems pretty close to what was intended for forest. If there was larger deck sizes allowed they'd have been able to run more tempo cards for a true whirlwind like was intended.

>>180156368
Disco dragon, tempo bats, Ironwrought fortress, Rogue's creed here. Fuck eachtar midshadow.
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>>180156368
>maining
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>>180156368
I play every craft, and I don't hate shadow, I just think the current build is boring to use and to play against.
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>>180156578
>what's contraction
>>
SKY KNIGHTS
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>>180156465
but anon, kys blood is cancer.
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>>180156368
Haven but it's ghetto pseudo storm haven without any freedom eagles because I've been away for a while.
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>>180156734
>Soon we will be hearing this at the start of every sword match-up
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>>180156368
Storm Ramp and "budget" vengeance
>>180156734
kys dubcuck
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>>180156896
fuck mane, that manga is fucking sad and got too real
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>>180155736
>Didn't even make it to the RISE OF THE DEAD PLUS SAME TURN EACHTAR!!!
>No thane's

>>180155545
White paladin takes an EP and the 1/1's do literally fucking goddamn nothing. She simply doesn't function in a 5 slot board. There's nothing she can protect, nearly everything she crashes into kills her. Nearly everyone has a bajillion board clears that slaughter the bodyguards on top of any board able to snap them right up. Then the icing on the cake is that they can't really do anything significant with the bodyguards anyway. One trump will be sacrificed using an EP to trade. the ward will eat shit. Leaving 1 garbage token that can't do anything and isn't even an officer to be boosted for 4 face. The zombie engine is hyper-efficient and solves all of the problems with token boards with his atk buff, generation, and rush on top of his body ensuring a split threat.
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>>180156479
thorn burst should cost 1
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>>180150137
There was a RoB/SV collab last year iirc
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>>180157013
>someone actually uses Latham
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>>180157013
Levi please
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>>180150137
>>180157021
But only for RoB players
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Just unpacked a Merlin. Is he viable? Only other rune legendary I have is Merasmus
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>>180157147
>he
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>>180156968
It was happy at the end
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>>180157147
Used to be an auto include in D-shift decks. Now she's kinda iffy and most swap her out for Lou.
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>>180157147
>he
Never post again
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help
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>>180157105
levi is a good card. rose queen is garbage turn 8 do nothing turn 9 can't even kill you if you're at more than 12 which you probably are since you had to spend all game jerking off to get enough fairies.
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>>180157147
You can use Merlin in Dshift but she's not really necessary. Erasmus is a safe vial unless you want to meme with ginger, keep it if you're talking about the gold spell though.
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>>180157212
>My waifu replaced a legendary

hnnnng
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>>180156368
I main Control Sword and Storm/Grail Haven, but have viable decks for all crafts.

Also, Game of Thrones is a piece of shit show that should've been cancelled after season 1.
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>>180156489
Blond hair blue eyes
Halter cut on her top
Exposed shoulders
Exposed armpit
Respectable chest without being cartoonish like Magisa
Tabard thing's made of silk for that excellent drape
Zettai ryouki
Thighighs peeking out from the boot
Hip window
Highleg bottoms

It's a laundry list of lewd

>>180156896
>Not GRANDPA'S OF 14 FACE, PREPARE FOR BATTLE!

>>180157013
There's a difference in the availability. They wanted raw bursts to cap out at 15, 4 bursts and roach to cap out at 19 so there's at least some degree of potential for playing around it instead of omaewa mou shinderu!
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>bought garuda leader the other day
>got an animated garuda from free packs
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>>180157147
You can run him in conjuring force if you want more consistency or as a ghetto rimewind ala fetching. He'll come and go as the meta shakes things up
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Outskilled.
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>Skeletons and Zombies no longer generate shadows
>Eachtars +2/+0 and rush buff is only applied to zombies.
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>>180157238
Levi isn't just good he's fucking broken
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>>180157226
At least it has a use.
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>>180157514
Deck? How do you even pilot it? How consistent is it? If there's more than 1 daria, what can I sub?
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>>180157376
>ywn have doujins on this game and on her
suffering
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>>180157526
Just the first is enough to kill shadow.
>horde an enhanced death's breath
>fucker now has enough shadows for another enhance breath
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>Dragon has Removal, Flood, Bane, Heal, Storm, Draw Power, Ramp, Face damage, Board Clear
how can 1 Craft be so overpowered
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Please concede
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Please concede onegaii
30311
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>>180157526
>n-no shadows for you, shitter!
Meanwhile, Fairy Circle or Whisperer still gives 3 shadows.
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>>180156489
I wonder what her armpits smell like.
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>>180157226
just embrace it
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>>180157676
>deaths breath actually only costs 2 shadows
>each eachtar zombie actually only costs 2 shadows
>cerberus generates 3
>zombie party generates 4
>bone chimera generates 3
>catacomb generates 2 and 1 more for each follower
Really gets my noggin joggin
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>>180157560
I think he's gonna have a place as sword gets more commanders and more boosts so he can have consistency. He's a good 7-10 face.

>>180157616
It's not exactly a hard find. Just engage in a game of pretend.

>>180157701
>tfw running a pendant control list
It's amazing
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>>180157598
ptp is pretty shit in this meta, so you shouldn't expect to have a positive winrate with it, the deck itself is pretty consistent though
>If there's more than 1 daria, what can I sub?
i can't really think of anything that could replace it, she's really important for the deck, but you could probably get away with two darias
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>>180157676
>6 - 6 + 1 + 3 = 6
How do you even math?
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>>180157790
Arigato gozaimasu urias
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>>180157226
>Shizuka no Tabi da.
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>>180157742
Thanks Rune playing Bloodcraft Adept with Forte emblem. I bet you win a lot due to confusing your enemies.
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>>180157819
>tfw still no animated pendant
>Keep opening RoB and still none
>Only play meme decks so I sandbag so I'll never get globes
>Couldn't grind with my job anyway
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>>180157226
It's not fucking fair
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>>180157376
they wanted it to be shit for no reason. roach can do way more damage without fucking up your hand as much, and cards like seraph or dimension shift come out with similar timing and straight up win you the game.
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>>180157226
tell me more
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>>180157365
>ergo proxy reaction image
>contrarian opinion
>"maining" some garbage hipster decks
You have to be 18+ to be here
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>>180157951
>ask for a concede
>mocks the person that helped him
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Where's the cards reveal shadowbabs?
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>>180158371
Is it really mocking?
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>>180158385
>already had a reveal today
>asks where it is
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>>180156368
Aggro Dirt Rune and Storm Haven.
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>>180158371
try to be less autistic
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>>180158097
Reminded me to give frogbat a whirl in a bit

>>180158385
Where you were told to look for the last 17 days
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>>180156368
Storm Haven and Aggro Blood, sometimes Frogger when I get sword quests.
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>>180158371
I didn't intend to mock them. Might have come across that way, because I'm a filthy ESL. So if that's the case, I apologize.
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>>180158371
It's not mocking. He's genuinely congratulating him on some top shelf mindfucking
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>>180158197
>Not liking Ergo Proxy
>liking pleb shit like GoT

It should be illegal to have opinions this shit.
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>>180158524
Don't post pictures of my wife without my permission.
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>>180158423
>just 1 new card
But I need more
>>
I play shadowcraft.
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>>180158708
Kys
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>>180158708
shadownigger
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>>180158703
Look at other games, then. I swear Vanguard used to have a strict limit on lewd.
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>>180157514
Outskilled.
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>>180158708
Kys shadownigger
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What's the best meme deck atm lads?
I want to waste vast amounts of vials on fun crap that can snipe the odd win.
>>
Anyone mind conceding? I'll return the favor if you stay.
46889
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I play storm shadow
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>>180158923
good luck with only 2 storm followers, 1 being at 9pp
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>>180158892
Thank you.
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>>180158787
They gave up Bermuda isn't even mermaids anymore they are just lolis.
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>>180158607
>not even denying that he is underage
MOOOODS
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>31 attack rahab
>my 2nd mangrove is about to run out
>he bahamuts

Wew, was worried for a second I might lose there
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Look at this shit https://my.mixtape.moe/kfdfso.mp4 JO shit can't be this consistent. Thank me later because this faggot BM'd me.
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>>180159123
HEAR
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>>180159123
>BM'ing rune
He's doing god's work.
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>>180159123
THE
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>shadowbab sees rahab and concedes
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>>180159123
you deserved it for playing rune
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>>180159123
>imp dragoon has been replaced with JO Grimnir
fug man
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>>180159439
>2 Grimmir
>deserved
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>>180159420
A lot of bandwagon shitter lists can't really deal with it well. Especially if they don't draw well
>>
Just back from playing heartstones new expansion, did they fix the game yet?
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>>180159420
y-you lie!
shadow always has reaper fully buffed up ready to trade it into wards!!
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>>180159123
Nerf GURUMIIIIII for fuck sakes
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>>180159123
It's not that JO is consistent, it's that it's a very flexible control deck if you build decently which gives it time to drag out and sock away those answers. He knows what you're going to play so he just breaks it when you make your move.

>>180159660
Hahahaha no. They barely did a slap on the wrist then printed even more obscene cancer in WD. Just read the leaks man
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>>180159473
Fug just mask bro
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>>180159123
consider not misplaying so much
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Concede please
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So is sword, especially control sword, just fucking dead next expansion or what? They're really pushing this neutral sword thing.
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>>180160358
thank you
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>>180159886
>He knows what you're going to play so he just breaks it when you make your move.
This is pretty much true. After he dropped Sybil and Ouro and knew my little big bang wouldn't be able to do anything anymore. JO amulet is really something which shouldn't be ignored as a card.
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woooooow dude bugged RNG mechanics ahuahuahua how am I supposed ta know what deck ta play if you give me 2 orthrus and 2 mammoth and 2 tests?
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>>180160520
ban assault werewolves
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>>180160502
pictures like this make me wish i was a girl
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>>180160654
A 2D one you mean, right?
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What are some signs your opponent is retarded?
>playing Levi before they can evolve it
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>>180160486
All control decks are dead besides Haven and Dragon because
>lmao healing
>lmao card draw
>lmao board clear
>lmao turn X win button
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>>180160745
playing draconic fervor
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>>180160739
either or, not really fussed
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>>180160745
>They immediately play another levi and evolve it
>They had 3 levis in their hand
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>>180160486
Midsword will still do fine as storm and chip every goddamn turn will still fuck people up
Csword is beyond dead. You still don't have a win con, everyone else has stronger followers, and anything that isn't a balls to the wall aggro deck will have 3-5 amulet removal which will bend you over a barrel

>>180160519
Yeah. Gives me an aneurysm when it gets hit by petrify or rites of exorcism. I can usually still slug it out with earthshock, Ouro, and just dissolving their board repeatedly
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Time traveler here
Unga neutral sword will be t1 shortly after the expansion drops
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>>180160739
not necessarily, all I would have to do is kinda take care of my body and then stream in slutty cosplay to get that sweet neet weeb money
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>>180160861
Satan used to be a wincon for every control deck without one from their class. Then Cygames started pushing this retarded rule about every match ending on turn 8 without addressing him.
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>>180160892
If only.
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this deck is fun as fuck
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>>180160486
If that new Legend was a stupid Commander instead of officer, Csword would have gotten a nice little buff.

That being said, I think Csword will be okay, just not great. It's got plenty of stall, and Ursula will let you summon Leonidas and Bahamut (or any other bigass neutral) very nicely. I think Neutral Sword will be below even meme tier though.
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>>180160805
Control Blood will be T1 and dominate them oldhags and cucks

T. notKMR
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Which card from the new expac is the cutest?
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>>180161357
That's literally Anne's face on a loli's body.
>>180161375
DOROTHY IS NOT A TITCOW DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY
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>>180161302
>healing
D. drain, all drain followers, vampric kiss
>card draw
blood pact, belph, all those trash golds with card draw
>board clear
hungering hoard, rev
The only reason that C blood is trash is that it doesn't have a win c-
>cuthulu
Good job now you are exactly the same as every other viable control deck in the game.
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Hmmm
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>>180161504
rip dragonbro
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>>180161504
A worse Grimnir/Ancient Elf?
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>>180161504
Underpowered. Why would they release something like this after Grimnir?
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>>180161504
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>>180161504
I don't think any other card has been so throughly powercreeped out of existence.
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>>180161502
>board clear
You forgot lethal dagger and matriarch, those will probably be used next expansion, and that'll make control blood even more cancerous than control haven because of all the healing. It might even be the best control deck.
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Underappreciated.
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>>180161375
Somebody please give me this artist's Twitter
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>>180161627
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>>180161504
The Gain ward If Overflow is active is a niche touch too bad everything is in fanfare
>>180161598
>after
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>>180161502
I think people are overestimating Spawn a bit.

If anything, it'll just make aggro and Seraph/Dshit more popular. Aggro decks will kill before it gets summoned, Dshit will win on turn 7/8 like always, and Seraph will always win on turn 9 now without Odin. In fact, with Haven's new gold, they won't give a shit about Spawn in a Seraph or Aegis deck. Just wait and see, CBlood might get a little better, but the other decks will get a LOT better and still leave it behind.
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>>180161754
i want her to rip my throat out and make me eat it
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>>180161910
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>>180161784
i just opened this
the legendary i got this, 30 decks ago, was erasmus
please kill me
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this deck is fun as fuck
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>>180161784
>fafnir is bad meme
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>>180158097
What about haven frog?
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>>180161754
i-is she about to s the d? while her friends watch?
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>>180162007
if it's so fun why didn't you post it?
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>>180162083
no, its snuff
the hardest of all femdom
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>>180162070
>teching it just for pepe
JUST
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>>180161792
Not sure why they stopped printing those types of cards
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>>180161910
Naw, every game will be Spider web imps and grimnirs into body guards maybe soul dealer/belph to d drain and revelation. Then when ever they get the chance they'll play cuthulu then revelation the next turn and hit you for 16 face damage.
And aggro decks have always countered control but some decks like c sword and dirt are non existant because they haven't been given the exact same support as all the other one's. Also c blood real probably be more cancerous because any time an aggro deck tries to rush them down they can just d drain/rev/play any ot their followers with vengeance for extreme value.
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>>180162070
>three frontlines
shitpepe/10
>fafnir
can'tevenkillevopepe/10
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>>180162078
literally liquefied all the hag cards
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W-why did she do that?

POWER PLAY STARTING TURN 1
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>>180162524
>aw fuck, i only have 20 minutes to jack off before work... fuck this game for now
i've done this
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>won on take two against dragfag with sibyl, dark angel olivia, and ouroboros
there is no better feeling than cucking a luckfag from their 5 wins
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Have you ever conceded after BMing with a clear lethal on board for any reason?
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>10 mana when I have 5 when he only played Dragon Oracle on 2 as a no body ramp
>Grimnir into Baha into Baha into Grimnir

Great game!! Totally not complete card RNG now like Hearthstone! Cant wait until the next expansion power creeps it further so I can have more fun playing my uncounterable win conditions
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>>180162480
It still doesn't sound like a problem for Rune or Haven. I don't think any of that stuff will stop Mid Shadow either. Even dropping Revelations is just more shadows and Eachtar can easily kill Spawn by himself. Howl Also exists for easy face damage if they dare to go into Vengeance before dropping him.

Time will tell, but I think people are overhyping him just like they did with Sneaks. I think he absolutely cornholes sword though. Is it even possible for Sword to kill him while he's ambushed? I predict Neutral Storm and Neutral Seraph Haven to be the dominate decks this format.
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>>180162335
yeah and that's one of the reasons why I liked playing dragon when I just started playing. I think the only card that has that attribute is sibyl with her healing
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>yfw the game glitches and le bald weakness seeing man ascends
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>>180162628
>Have you ever conceded
No.
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>>180162769
my sides
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>>180162769
>I've seen your weakness for the last time
>*throws up*
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>>180162769
Why is Maid Leader the only one still working?
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>>180162769
I think I've seen that Rabbit Healer painting being sold for a few million dollars.
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>>180161357
This mad son of a bitch
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>>180162769
maid leader confirmed for stronger conceptual core than bahamut
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>>180162967
Oh shit, he's got a weapon!
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>>180162967
>not named Edgehog
Localization team effed the eff up.
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I have another weird glitch roll from a while back.
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>>180163334
CURSED
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>>180162721
Dshift will always fuck over control decks. Daria might have a mixed match up. Depends if they would be able to just d drain/revelation until they run out of followers. I don't have much confidence in burn rune and every other rune deck is trash. They'd probably fair against mid shadow as much has dragon and haven. But I feel like it cuthulu was made as a big fuck you to the other control decks. Play bahamut/themis against me? You still take 6-8 damage. Not only that but if given the chance it can be tutor'd earlier than seraph with baph and bandersnatch. Along with the fact that most of their removal is cheap AND heals them I have a feeling that they have the tools to fair better against aggro decks while also being strong against the limited pool of other control decks.
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Would you an Albert?
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>>180163334
>post-modern dryad
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>>180163396
>I feel like it cuthulu was made as a big fuck you to the other control decks

Agreed. That being said, the only control decks that it REALLY screws over are meme decks without real class win conditions. Decks like Control Sword, Satan decks, Azazel, and any other deck that revolves around stalling until bigass Neutrals come out. But that's what Dshit, Seraph, Aegis, and Wolfbolt have already been doing. It's just Blood's shiny new "win condition" card that activates around turn 8 so the games don't go too long. It's really nothing this game hasn't seen several times before.
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>>180161504
It has synergy with Wyrm God so once you actually play the card you realize its not power-creep.

Thank you.
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>>180163334

That's some interesting dryad art there
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I know you guys are frothing over Spawn of the Abyss, but once you have played it, you will find out a 8PP 16 damage is not super strong.

Thank you
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>>180163923
Also synergy with dragon summoner, the worst tutor in the game

Enjoy shadowverse
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>>180163657
Yeah that what I meant. C blood wasn't viable, but now that it got it's "I win" card it is. Control Sword/satan/dirt/azazel don't have "I win" cards so they aren't viable. I mean dirt already got a little more healing, if it had card draw and a "I win" card it'd be tier 1.
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Reminder to play Neutral Sword
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>>180164026
nice minthe
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>>180164158
Ephemera will be so busted in shadow.
>1 ephemera allows 9-11 burst damage off howl
>2 ephemera allows 13-15 burst damage off howl
>3 ephemera allows 17-19 burst damage off howl
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>>180164158
No, I'm playing Neutral Haven.

And there's nothing you can do to stop my turn 4/5 Lion+Mammoth.
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>>180164261
Are you retarded?
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Man, remember when people complained how OP Aria and Garuda were? Simpler times.
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>>180164261
>not adding Cerberus into the calculation.

Going second, they can do 17 damage on turn 6 with just one Ephemera on turn 4.
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>>180164308
You have problem counting those damage, son?

>>180164352
>11 plus 4 damage is 17
Explain.
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>>180164261
Skip turn 4 never sounds like a good play doe
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Should I make this deck as soon as the expansion hits? I already have everything except for the new cards.
I could replace DoD with execution. There's a shit ton of boardclear because haven can do the same thing and still get away with it.
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>>180164339
>remember when people complained about Haven when Forest and Sword were literally the best decks in the game and you got tons of free wins with no hassle

They were good times indeed.

>>180164386
>turn 4 Ephemera evolve
>turn 5 Cerberus
>turn 6 Howl evolve

3 from Ephemera, 10 from evolved Howl, 4 from Coco/Mimi.
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Is it just me or did they not print a single good dragon card this time? Only ragewyrm and sky god wyrm are decent cards the rest is garbage
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>>180164386
They take up board space you literal retard.
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>>180164480
Ephemera can attack aswell you stupid brainlet
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>4PP Levi wannabe for forest (thor burst is 2PP)

AHAHAHAHAHA fuck you
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>>180164463
Welcome to being top tier for one Expansion.

Now enjoy your shitty cards for the next 6 or so months.
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>>180164408
>giving your existing board a slight buff in damage
>skip turn 4
What?

>>180164449
>evolving ephemera
Touche, though going second, you will really need to fight for board control.

>>180164480
What's stopping those ephemeras from attacking?
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>>180164158
Cinderella doesn't seem too necessary for the deck so it'll be one of the first ones I play. Gotta try and keep the vial investments to a minimum in the first few weeks
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>>180164015
>8pp

Nice try.
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>>180164408
>skip turn 4
>win on turn 6

Wounds like a good trade-off to me.
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>>180164463
You have 20 damage nuke at 10pp. What else do you want?
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Why can't elves have nice things?
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>>180164795
Because they are the nicest things of all!
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>>180164795
they made people slightly cry for a couple metas while d-shift still exists and hasn't been nerfed in the slightest
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Guys, seriously, how is Sword supposed to deal with Cthulu?
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>>180164795
These expansions were probably made way back in DE when Forest was the oppressive craft. Just wait for a few more expansions that was made during these periods.

Oh, who am I kidding? Eat dirt, treefucker. I had enough with your Will of the Fucker shitting up the meta a year ago.
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>>180164908
just hamclone blade bro
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>>180164785
If I wanted inconsistent OTKs I'd meme with wildfangs and not fucking ursula
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>>180164908
the same way you deal with beauty and beast
roland
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>>180164984
>you play roland
>they play dragon orb with storm
Blood will be so oppressive in next meta.
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i'm fiending for more packs
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>>180164908
>saving a thumbnail
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>>180164908
Just officer timmy it bro
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How much dosh have you spent on this game?
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>>180165135
About 7000 shekels
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>>180165135
Zero
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>>180164927
>Complaining about Will of the Forest

Get a load of this guy.
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>>180165175
>hi, i'm a newfag!
The only board Will of the Fucker couldn't clear back then is a school of fishes from a turtle. You might as well call it a one-sided board clear.

>i-it's back then
Doesn't stop making it stupid when one new sap calling that card being useless.
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The design of the new card is fucking retarded. Why would I need additional fairies in a neutralcraft again? Those are for combo cards. And the thorn burst is not even that good compare to le old magic man's fireball. If they want us to make a deck with neutral and also utilizing our combo mechanic it means we have to make a deck with 50% forest cards and 50% neutral cards, which makes the deck inconsistent as fuck. You are donezo when your draw is bad and that would happen most of the time when your cards are "if you have XX in your hand" to activate.
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>>180164908
Kill them with your buffed Neutral followers and Albert before turn 9
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>>180165175
He's just a retard that will forever be stuck in DE, there is no help for him, he can never move on.
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>>180165369
At least I don't play a craft that has a 6% playrate, hipster-kun.
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>>180165135
5.99 USD that I had on my Steam account for over a year.
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>Fairy Princess is understated when it needs millions of condition to active it
>BKB is fully stated when in fact it is Cudgel without having to spent an evo point

I wouldn't mind as much if the bias isn't this obvious.
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>>180165135
$80 or so I think.
Gotta get those alt arts.
Also I love Karin
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>>180165340
Thought the same
The card is good, but doesn't fit the deck
It becomes more inconsistent, reduces alice value and make twin assault weaker

I think the only non-neutrals you wanna run are twin assault and belle+beast
I mean you can go up to 12 forest card to have balance owl still work
But i'd rather highroll an alice into beast into arriet or girugamesh and win turn 7-8

Maybe with looking glass you can make it work with forest+neutral roach, but then you might aswell play regular roach
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>>180165684
kill yourself
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>>180165536
>implying it's that high
only the most obscure crafts will do
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>>180165694
> the only non-neutrals you wanna run are twin assault and belle+beast
Exactly my thought too. Forest was not getting any neutral support last expansion, so if you want to play neutralcraft you don't want to use forest either because thos 6 cards (2x3) doesn't justify it.
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>>180165630
They are pushing for control blood so hard they need to print the likes of spawn and a tutor for the fucker.

Shit doesn't even have class requirement. Ambush should have been behind vengeance, at least that will make it kinda balance so blood player will choose survive, get 8pp do nothing card or play it close to lethal range and have a large payoff.
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>>180165767
"I play forestcraft, you've probably never heard of it"
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cool
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How did we go from this..
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>>180164908
Simple
Use Roland to bait out the Execution on a stick
Then use Frontguards to eat the Cthulu hits, you still take 6-8 though
Then use Tsubaki to kill them and set up your cyclone blades
Finally use Lucifers to heal back up from the damage, since you baited some removal out with Roland (Who should still be on the board) Lucifer should stay up
Just use this exact sequence of 4 cards when you have somewhat limited card draw to survive 2 unconditional cards.
Easy peasy!
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>>180165984
>running immortal brick
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did they say how long the full-cost refund for the nerfed cards will last?
I need 3 zell for a meme deck but I dont really want to invest 600 vials in it
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>>180164908
Some kind of aggro pepe.
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>>180166042
>healing
Just albert face bro haha
It's not like c blood has ridicolous healing that surpasses even dragon, that sword already can't handle
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Guys
Stop trying to make c sword work
This hurts to see
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>>180165684
karin should palm strike in one of the emotes
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>>180166234
C sword actually works. But then you have to be in a forest dominated meta.
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>>180166153
Dragon has a hard time against pepesword to start with if it managed to snowball and didn't managed to ramp.

Blood has no fucking ramp, no random hit shit and shittier wards. Only way they can hit pepe at best is turn 6 and I doubt these guys will be running D.storm. Most likely you have already hit them hard enough for to waste their turn for revelation just in time for Alwida and Albert for finishing.
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>page 8
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>>180166234
Never, it has to work. Maybe I should put Israfil for heals, y-yeah 3 of them should do just fine.
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This games matchmaking is such a piece of shit, lost like 10 times in a row, regardless rank or unrank. if even if you change decks or cards it will always match up against the counter, or they'll pull some rng mulligan. someone convince me leave this game.
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>>180166074
Until WoD hits
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20039
concede pls
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>>180167203
d e d g a m e

>>180167329
thanks
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>>180167357
tyty
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Game-AI posted the new dshift deck.

http://game-ai.jp/38001/
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>>180167598
>no FD
>no enchanted sword/blade mage
ahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahah
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>>180167598>>180167648
wow

wow
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>>180167648
Wouldn't commence experiment be better than snipe?
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I want Rowenposting to return. Please Cygames, make the Jabberwocky be a meme leggo so we may lay banter upon dragon once again.
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>>180167725
You lost that right the moment you became cancer
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Please help, I have an albert + silver paladin
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>>180167725
Even if it's a meme leggo, wyrm god is too good.
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>>180167717
It can't pull alchemist.
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>>180167747
anyone
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>>180167971
left dumbass
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>>180167747
>>180167971
left
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>>180167992
>>180168005
thanks
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This just in, aerin has overtaken fairy princess in the polls and azazel is still jobbing to a nameless bronze
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>>180168102
i've never even heard of or seen fairy princess. if you told me she was a wonderland dreams card, i'd believe you
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>>180166382
If they're running blood moon they know they can afford to drop it turn 3 if you're frog sword
Also the dagger works somewhat unless you have well up and running
Lastly they can storm you just as hard
As soon as you're on the defensive with frog you're done
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>>180168102
>aerin has overtaken fairy princess
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>>180168102
can we expect these to be available for coins, or crystals only
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>>180167598
that's fucking awful holy shit
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>>180168102
Dark General has carried blood since standard she is a real trooper.
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>>180168243
they aren't limited so probably rupies
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>>180168102
>cynthia not winning
Nip taste is so fucking shit
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I'm so sorry.
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>>180168243
The pessimist in me says crystals only but they are from a community vote. It'd be bad form to make them exclusively for whales
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>Animated untainted Jeannu
Yes. I'm voting Moon anyway
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>>180168375
i want jeanne to shout at me
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>>180168102
>nobody voting titty monster
I just want another megamilk leader ;_;
Is that too much to ask?
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>>180168102
Yamete
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>>180168360
he could probably just revelation next turn actually but that means one less board clear to care about
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can someone xeplain what the fuck just happened
i drop luminous mage and go to evolve her and my turn ends. this is in t2
i was nowhere near the out of time timer as i knew the play going into the turn
i lost as a result of this
what the fuck
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29334

Concede please! Will concede back if you need it.
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>>180168785
delet this
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>>180168102
Yessss. Aerin is both good and usable. Cynthia is better than Aerin in terms on card quality but the art just not as good.
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71556

Concede please
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Reminder that pre-nerf PtP forest was way worse than the current midrange shadow.
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>>180168785
Thanks Nep.

>>180168809
You better like it since you will see him everywhere in 2 weeks.
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Reminder that Dark Alice will go on maintenance day 1 of the expansion
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>>180168674
You pressed the end turn button.
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>>180168969
literally who the fuck cares
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>>180168897
Plz help.
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>>180168159
dagger would only hit pepe if in vengeance, it gives at least pepe 1 more attack and a storm follower follow up for lethal.
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>>180168969
Just like Aegis will go on maintenance day 1 of the expansion right?
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>>180169014
It's a SV tradition since RoB to have a card go on maintenance day 1.
>>180169050
No, but Gawain did.
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>>180168897
Thanks!
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>>180168949
No, it really wasn't
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGH DRAGON LEGENDARY WHEN
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>>180169118
>55% playrate

kys roachfucker
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>>180169118
Can't wait for the same people to say exactly the same thing about shadow :^)
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>>180168969
She's average tier at best. It's better to run Nepshit especially with Spawn running around.
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>>180169197
>be at sub 6 hp because storm and burn spells
>opponent drops spawn
>drop Nep
>ded
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>>180169196
The difference is that 2 year olds can play midshadow where as it takes someone who has taken elementary math to play PtP
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>>180169269
Khawy heals before Spawn deals dmg
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>>180169269
Wouldn't Kawaii's effect go off first since it's your turn?
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i don't understand kuwait. how do you get his healing to not proc?
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>>180169317
>>180169331
Yeah, you're actually right.
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>>180169386
have no follower on your board
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>>180168545
She is beautiful, brave and I also voted for her ;_;
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>>180169009
no, i didnt
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Will Dark Offering work on Aegis?
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>>180169515
No
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>>180169186
Pulling random stats out of you ass again?
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>>180169515
What about can't be affected by spells or effects dont you understand
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>>180169515
It is castable, but nothing will happen - no cards and no heals.
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>>180169515
Does it have the following terms +/-X / +/-X?
If yes, it affects aegis. If no, it doesn't.
Ward affects aegis because it's a rule.
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>>180163334
I expect someone to write some creepy pasta for this shit
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Can aegis be killed with bahamut?
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>>180169765
nooo
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>>180169765
What about cant be killed or affected by spells, effects or followers cant you understand
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can aegis be deleted by /svg/?
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Can Aegis see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch
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Can Shiki kill Aegis?
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>>180169765
No but it can be killed by bane
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Find a flaw.
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>>180169925
lol nope
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>>180169842
>>180169925
What a bullshit card.
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>>180169932
flat
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>>180169932
CUTE
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>>180169932
more dmg than health
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Double dickshift by the skin of my teeth.
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>>180170000
>flaw
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>>180170047
Post more of best girl winning.
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>>180170147
But best girl is blade mage
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Can I have cheap deck please. I only have 1xMatriach and 1xMaelstrom Serpent for Blood legos
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>>180170235
Aggro Blood is as cheap as it gets
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>>180170290
>opponent drops grimnir
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>>180170235
Just stick Yurius, Wolf and/or spider Imp.
Use lyrial if you have no Vampy

Pray for some dshit nigger or other slow ass decks.

>>180170318
Medusa's Gaze
Horde
Only forest and sword gets cucked by Grimnir.
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>>180170348
>Only forest and sword gets cucked by Grimnir.
Its cyclone soldiers time to shine as a tech!
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Rate my Take 2 deck.
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>>180170212
t-that was easy
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>>180170235
served me well until now (B3)
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>>180169932
Hasn't received a dicking yet
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>>180169932
Overpowered
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>>180170661
>b3
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>>180170661
Literally anything works in B3
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>>180170661
>Grimnir
T-Thanks anyway. I'm using Aggro Blood for now
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>>180170748
kek, gotta start somewhere

>>180170765
bullshit, I face T0 netdecking shadowniggers every day, maybe things changed since you were B3 granpa? Has this though crossed your mind?
Also feel free to suggest a better cheap deck, senpai
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>>180170765
Ok tell me how control blood works in b3 against wallet dragon and midrange shadow
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Will Size Queen Otohime ever be playable again?
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>>180170956
>b3
>wallet dragon and midrange shadow

LOL
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>>180170876
90% of the times I'm not using it at 10PP so feel free to replace it with something else I guess.
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>>180170986
there are whales even in c unranked
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>>180170901
>Also feel free to suggest a better cheap deck, senpai
The point is you can just play whatever and get wins, no need for "better" or "worse"
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>8 and a half hours from now
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>>180170876
Grimnir is the best card in the game and goes in every deck, just craft 3 if you want to win.
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>>180171020
>whales
>in c unranked

LOL
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>>180170983
Do you think she hates cocks that are taller than her?
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>>180170901
Take current aggro blood
Take out Belph
Put in Blood Pact
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Being a whale doesnt give you any competitive advantage, this isn't a gacha game where you can buy party member with infinite stats
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>>180171028
>The point is you can just play whatever and get wins

You mean like a win every 5-6 matches? Sure, I guess so.
If you want to at least win 2 times out of 3 insted, you'll need a decent deck. Try it if you don't believe me.
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>>180171089
I have had sex with petit girls (below 1,60) and they love being thrown around like a doll, they love when their feet can't even touch the floor despite the constant up and down.
On a related note, tall girls are very boring.
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>>180171163
>>180171028
>>180170956
>>180170765
>>180170748
>>180170901
>>180170661
>>180170235
Belphelgor will be extremelly good in WOD, probably until the cards gets nerfed/rotated/whatever because she is literally

>"4pp draw you can play your shitty cards with their full effect now"

I would strongly suggest anyone interested in blood to just craft 3 Belp and the rest of the deck doesn't even use golden cards.
>>
10666

I need a win senpaitachi
Can be a concede but I'd get 100 rupies if you just let me bash face, up to you
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>>180171271
Problem is that KYS blood is a VERY all in type of deck
If you don't win in the two turns after you drop Belphe/Airjammers there is a very good chance you'll just lose
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my wife will lead control blood to victory!
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>>180171435
>cblood
>locking itself out of PP
????????????
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>>180171435
Isn't she more of an aggro card?
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Thank you, Old Man

Have a vampire for your efforts
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When can i play phoenix roost?? Why is it still in maintenance? ?? Don't tell me i used 2400 vials for nothing.
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>>180171435
why can't i play temptress vampire carabosse
carabosse what have you DONE
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>>180171050
It is true.
My friend who started playing this game in ToG actually quit, because even D rank was full of 9 gorillion legendary wallet dragons, and this was before the nerfs even.
The game must look like pure cancer to anyone who is starting now.
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>>180171494
Roost is never coming back ;_;
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>>180171528
I have a gorillion legendary deck and I spent nothing on the game.
I have about 200 hours on it and mostly just do dailies with a few arena runs every now and then

This game is WAAAAAAAAAY more new-player friendly than fucking 'Pay-to-Play' Hearthstone or something
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>>180171528
I also started playing after ToG but I think your friend is exeggerating.or making excuses
Maybe 1 out of 10 games is against a full blown meta deck, 1 out of 5 people have maybe 1 or 2 meta leggos and most games are what you would expect at that level
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>>180171528
this is the reason i stopped avoiding ranked even though i felt like i wasn't ready to climb yet
if i'm just gonna face the cancer anyway, i might as well get the rewards for winning sometimes too
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>>180171568
So... can i get a refund? I could use those vials to finish my sword deck.
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>Khawy always targets Aegis because it has 8/10 attack
>Doesn't get the heal off
:(
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>>180171761
Just open those free packs and you'll get enough vials
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>>180171815
>legendary countered by another legendary
sounds fair to me
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This is the card that will make ungablood t1 again.
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>>180171815
aegis is such a great card, i hope cygames print more card like that for haven
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>>180171923
Haven has enough wincons and, while Aegis as a deck is shit, Cygames making more uncounterable shit shouldn't be incentivized.
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>ouroboros in t2
>now dragon has fortress crab too
>and it's a silver
This game mode keeps getting more and more fucked, good thing I already got my Taker of Two recently.
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>>180172059
fortress crabs needs an evolve
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>>180171494
Roost's meme power was out of control and had to be sealed forever.
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>>180172059
Fortress Crab is garbage
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>>180172059
>tfw i only got my first 5wins because of the op lightning blast
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>>180171921
What does it mean to "no longer gain play points"?
That if i have 6 PP, next turn i'll still have 6 PP, or they don't refill at all?
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>>180172059
Play Rune in T2, despite what /svg/ says Rune is one of the best picks right now.
Mainly because you have 9 gorrilion spells that can deal with Ourobouros and if you get a calamitous curse + earth rite then you can banish any shadownigger board as well.
Only Aegis is a threat.
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>>180172142
Your maximun number of pp doesn't increase every turn. Orbs still get replenished
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>>180172142
>you stay at 6pp for the rest of all of your games. so think hard before you ever use that game, you don't want to be dragon with only 6pp max to play with
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>>180171475
She's way too slow for aggro
She would have been the designated wincon for Cblood but then they revealed Cthulhu so I'm not really sure where she'll fit in. Maybe midrange
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>>180172289
That card is literally worthless as a win condition, no matter how you look at it.
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>>180172149
>play rune
>0/5

>play dragon
>2/5

>play haven
>4/5

>play forest
LOL

>play sword
>4/5

>play shadow
>5/5

>play blood
>0/5
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>>180172289
I doubt she'll be run in midrange since bandwagoners would run bapho and/or bandersnatch trying to tutor spawn.
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Is there a playable Aegis deck around?
I can't win a single fucking match with this piece of shit.
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>>180172289
How is magic missile a fucking wincon. Playing her on curve also means you can't play card like Emeralda or Temp Vampire. That card is trash in Cblood.
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>>180172201
>>180172214
So you either drop in on curve in an aggro deck, or keep it in hand to play on turn 10?
Seems bad for aggro, but I guess it has potential for control.
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>>180172324
The effect stacks if you play more than one
Draining for 3 for free every turn is a great win condition for a control deck
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>>180172091
>>180172120
Thanks god, I just assumed it'd work like Ouro when it first got revealed.
>>180172149
Nah fuck Rune in T2, I got 5 gold once for trying it out. Never again.
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>>180172398
Play Storm, Storm Aegis or Seraph.
Pure Aegis sucks.
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>>180172434
You wanna tutor her with belph and spam her? Sounds like a spicy meme deck
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>>180172437
I always consistently get at least 3 wins with Rune, whenever I pick it.
And I almost always go for Rune.
Meanwhile whenever I pick any other crafts it is common for me to get 0 wins.

>>180172434
>playing 3 turn do nothings in a row just to get 3 damage per turn
>not dying to whatever you are facing
You might as well play PTP
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Which deck feels more Exodia like? the indestructible rock follower or the praying victory statue?
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>>180172513
Well no I don't wanna do that because I'll just play Cthulhu
I'm just saying I was eyeing her as a wincon previously
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How to fix the game
Neutralized Scripture-
3pp neutral spell
Banish an enemy follower with 4 defense or less.
Enhance 7, Banish all enemy follower with 4 defense or less
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>>180172546
>it is common for me to get 0 wins.
That means you suck. It doesn't matter what class you pick, going 0-5 should be an extremely rare case, not a common occurrence.
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>>180172357
I want to rub my dick across that forehead.
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>>180172398
Its expensive but it works, 3x aegis off screen
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>>180172564
DShift
>Draw until you have all the combo pieces, then win
>>
>play conjuring force otk
>queue into the only dragon that runs grea and angelic barrage
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>>180172564
PtP, because you actually draw as much as an Exodia deck.
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>>180172602
>giving more ammo to haven

make it able to remove amulets and its a deal
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>>180172602
>OP neutrals that go in all but the hardest aggro decks are healthy for the game
I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
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>>180172564
Flame and Glass D-shift
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When are we getting neutral banish?
Please don't mention trash like Odin.
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>>180172765
Never
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>>180172624
Other crafts literally can't deal with Ourobouros and shadow as well as Rune.
Haven for example was fucking gutted in take two because you no longer have themis and most of your banish cards, meaning you can't do shit against Dragon and Shadow, it doesn't matter if you draft Aegis or Seraph, because you won't even live to late game most of the time.
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>>180172546
>do nothing meme
Seraph and Aegis do nothing too
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>>180172698
I actually don't want Grimnir to be nerfed. I think he's not that broken and a good finisher for control deck.
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>>180172564
Roach
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>>180172765
Might be soon. Cygames is moving further and further away from class identity.
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>>180172706
>entire expac is focused on neutral cards
>nothing yet that makes the coolest and hottest neutral wincon more viable
What will it take to make F&G work?
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>>180172564
>no seraph leader

What the FUCK cygames
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>>180172823
And? How does that have anything to do with my post?
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>>180172602
How to fix the game
Remove storm
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>bone chimera into shadow reaper (double)

real fun game haha
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>>180172876
i wanna bully that hot midriff
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>>180172828
Their effects and presence are far more powerful than a 6pp magic missile, you retard.
Seraph wins you the game next turn via the combo, while Aegis wins in 2 turns and potentially acts an infinite ward if you have ToS.
Caboose doesn't even compare.
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>>180172929
>let's make dshit, aegis and seraph tier 1

Kill yourself.
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>>180172823
You are a funny guy, Haven is the third best in T2 after Shadow and Dragon.
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>>180173005
How to fix game: remove storm, grimnir, dshift, aegis and seraph.
:~)
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>>180173051
I agree.
Now remove ramp too.
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>>180172840
Grimnir is retarded card design and shouldn't exist.
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>>180172995
You must have missed my post about the effect stacking
It's an uncounterable 3 damage per turn which constantly refills your hand and allows to keep controlling the board to eventually win the game. Literally the description of a control win condition
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>get tired of playing nep
>play midrange
>starting hand is Eachtar, Eachtar, Eachtar and Thane
How do i put death ledgers into a nep deck?
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>>180173048
I don't care what /svg/ shitters say. While I listened to /svg/ instead of picking rune I kept going 0 and full of frustrating matches.
>>180172891
My point is that take two has changed a lot after the basic cards were removed and the introduction of ToG cards.
Your drafting skills are literally worthless if you aren't playing a craft that can deal with both Ourobouros Dragon and the Board flood of Shadow.
I never went 0 in arena prior to ToG, which just proves that the makeup of Take Two completely changed due to the introduction and removal of cards, and that Rune is now one of the best picks in arena.
>>
How much terrible the shitstorm if dragon leggo counters Spawn?
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>>180173048
I suck at t2 haven.
Give me some advices, sempai.
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>>180173162
And you must have missed my post about playing 3 turn do nothings in a row.
Fucking retard.
If you think you can play 3 turn do nothings and live in fucking stormverse, then end yourself right now.
Don't reply to me ever again, you retarded piece of shit.

>It's an uncounterable 3 damage per turn
Literally shittier ptp.
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>>180173169
kys shadownigger
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>>180172840
It shouldn't be a finisher for your fucking control deck. Your class cards should be the finishers, in you know, your CLASS specific deck.
Right now every fucking "control" deck is just a stall mechanic for that retarded piece of shit.
All late game just disappears when you can just drop to of those fuckers in a row.
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>>180173193
>Dragon and Blood become tier 1 instead of Blood becoming tier 0
How is that shitstorm worthy?
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>>180173193
Dragon players will say it's a do nothing and that they wanted more storm, heals and ramp.
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>>180173259
It's ok if you don't play control and have no idea what you're talking about my dude
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>>180172398
This is my homebrew :^)
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>people in this thread actually think spawn is a good card

Literally D rank central.
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So,temptress will be useless on control in 2 weeks,right?
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>missing 24 cards
Leaks when?
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>>180173397
I pray it's memesnek tier instead of eachtar.
Everything was jammed in it:
>sure kill
>can be tutored
>ambush so it can't be removed
>last word in case it gets mass remove
Basically it's KMR's card so he can cblood.
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>>180173169
Something like this
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>>180173380
>>180172651
>Dark Jeanne

Can I get non-meme decks? Thanks....
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>>180173334
>don't play control
I have 300 games with control haven, 150 with Cblood and I also played my fair share of Control Dirt as well, you retarded piece of shit. And that is why I'm telling you a 3 damage per turn is a shitty win condition.
How does it even compare to Seraph, Grail, Satan Aegis?
It is literally shit.
You are honestly delusional if you think a 3 damage per turn is a good control win condition.
Time will prove me right anyway, even if Caraboose is played, it won't be played in control, that is for sure.
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>>180173496
>thinking Jeanne is meme tier
t. F rank
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>>180173496
>dark jeanne
>meme

Begginer 1?
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>>180173496
>Can I get decks without dork Jeanne because I'm an unlucky fag?
Why would you not have a free +2 stats and extra board clear in SHADOWverse?
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>>180173515
>I have 300 games with control haven, 150 with Cblood and I also played my fair share of Control Dirt
>Then insults
>Then insults
>Tries to barely mention his original point
>More insults

SUREEEEEEEEE........

Sure you have all that experience and wins anon ;)
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>>180173496
Are you retarded? DJeanne is the closest thing Haven has to a staple legendary.
>>
>>180173220
Aria is better than every lego
>>
>>180172840
>lethaling with Grimnir
you should be ashamed of yourself
>>
>>180173397
see you in two weeks
>>
dragonfags and shadowcucks should be shot
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>>180173515
>what is a 6/6 body
>300 games with control haven
Of course you only play a """""""control""""""" deck where you shuffle your hand until you find your win condition. Sorry you're not smart enough to realize how good she is, maybe after you've gone past third year high school :^)
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>>180173515
I also explained how Carabosse won't be played because Cthulhu will be a thing so I guess reading really isn't your forte
>>
haha everyone who doesnt play my craft should die xd
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>>180173526
>>180173549
>>180173550
>>180173582
>I will buff my opponent's minions
>Making sure that they will be strong enough to kill my Evolved Jean if I needed to trade
>Well his minions are buffed he can kill me more easly now I guess that's cool
>Also my minions probably died or are prime target for favorable trades of his own wow that's awesome

Yeah I believe you...
Jean such good, much staple...
>>
>>180173710
That's correct.
>>
>vampy is unga blood
>urias is control blood
>vega is ??????
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>>180173730
>ask for advice
>get it
>reject it and call everyone bad even though you're the B rank shitter
My favorite meme
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>>180173730
Haha alright anon you got me. Dark Jeanne is a bad card after all
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>>180173783
gay blood
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>>180173556
Retards who think that a repeatable magic missile is a good control win condition deserve all the insults they get.
>>180173686
Haven is the only viable control craft at the moment, retard. If a control deck does not have haven tier win conditions, then it is a shit control deck and unplayable in the sped of metas of shadowverse. End of story.
>>180173695
Even without Cthulhu it wouldn't be used and that was my point. You are out of your mind if you think Caraboose was ever a control win condition to begin with, even the anon who said it was an aggro win condition had more sense.
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>>180173849
That's still Urias.
>>
>>180173783
Memes blood
I use Vega and I play sneks
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>>180173730
I hope this is bait otherwise I pity you
>>
>>180173730
I bet you play Orthrus on turn 4 with no board and complain it's a bad card too
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>>180173730
>Themis is bad because if I play it when I have a full board and my opponent's board is empty I will losr
This is how retarded you are, D rank shitter.
Literally every Haven deck is playing Jeanne right now. She is not only a board clear, but also a board buff. You don't play her when she is going to benefit your opponent more (what rarely happens), obviously, fucking retard.
You are just repeating what the people were saying about her before ToG even came out, before seeing how good she is in practice.
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>>180173874
I don't know what posting your win count is supposed to prove, you're obviously very inexperienced when it comes to card game concepts and theorycrafting
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>>180173874
>Haven is the only viable control craft at the moment

ThinkingFaceEmoji
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>>180173924
>Turn 4 1/2 do nothing
>good card
>>
>>180173874
>Haven is the only viable control craft at the moment, retard
Ramp Dragon is a Control deck.
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>>180173978
do nothing meme doesnt work when the card actually does something when played anon
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>>180173874
>I have 300 games with control haven
Only 197 on your pic

>150 CBlood
Nearly 400 on "your" pic

>FAIR SHARE of Control Dirt
Only 16 games on """"""""""""""""your"""""""""""""""" pic

Anon stop stealing pictures of the archive, also using lies and stolen winrates of other people to "back up" your argument not only is sad, but also crumbles it all over.
>>
>>180173879
He and Balthazar are just mortal enemies on a friendly basis.
>>
>>180173959
I posted my win count because the other anon said I was lying about win count and that I didn't play control decks.
>you're obviously very inexperienced when it comes to card game concepts and theorycrafting
I was an administrator of a card game for 4 years and I played over a dozen card games in my life, literally fuck off, all you can do is just ad hominem me, because even you know that a 6pp repeating magic missile is worthless for control blood.
>>180173963
>implying I'm wrong
>>180174002
I disagree, they only "control" until they reach 10pp, then they proceed to storm and grimnir your face off.
They don't even have any control cards in their decks outside of Salami breath and Rahab.
>>180174072
>what is unranked
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>>180174130
Any pic of this Balthazar guy?
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2 WEEKS TILL SWORD IS TIER 1
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>>180173730
You're absolutely correct. Why can't Djohn be like Eachtar right?
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Forest is the only class with 2 5 stars S-rated legendaries, why are you fags complaining?
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Guys. He is either obviously trolling or just a retard who don't want any advice. No need to give him more (You)s.
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>>180173940
>>180173924
>>180173902
>>180174210
>>180173845
>>180173843
>my only semi-viable deck for ranked is Aegis
>ask /svg/ for help
>get decks with many questionable deck choises
>said decks feat. meme legendary
>reject this shitty attemp at trolling me because I only have like 7k vials and Im not wasting them on meme cards
>HEY ANON IS REALLY GOOD CRAFT IT YOU WON'T BE DISSAPPOINTED :))))))
>/svg/ tries to troll me into crafting shitty cards
>reject them again and ask for advice once again
>ANON YOU'RE STUPID I SWEAR A GOOD CARD :)))))))

It's okay, I guess I will ask in the official forums or somewhere else, I hope they aren't dicks trying to screw over newbies like all of you
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Is this thread really this full of retards?
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>>180174375
Just one at the moment.
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>>180174312
>doesnt post his own dick list to show what we can improve on
>just vehemently calls dork Jeanne a bad lego because he doesn't have one
>calls every addition """"""questionable""""""
Nobody's forcing you to craft it, you're just a retard for calling it bad
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>>180174375
no you
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Thanks to the anon that posted the ptp rune deck! I'm having fun with it
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>>180174147
>I was an administrator of a card game for 4 years
Damn son, forumfree truly is a wonderful thing
Come back when you've played some legacy MtG
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>>180174501
>falling for the Daria ptp meme
lmao
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>>180174147
>implying you carefully count the number of games you play in unranked
>implying said games are in any way or shape a solid indicator of a deck perfomance
>much less of a control deck, considering that the chance to run into weak opponent's is stadistically much more higher

I guess your Control Dirt decks have around 90% win rate, how could you not? All you run into in Unranked are newbies with barely playable decks or people testing memes.
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>>180174501
Get gud
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>>180174147
>draw
>heal
>board control
>strong late game
>high value cards
You can't get more Control than that.
>They don't even have any control cards in their decks outside of Salami breath and Rahab.
Define Control cards. If you mean board control, wards and board clear, they can and commonly do play Blazing Breath, Lyrial/Unica, Saha, Isra, Bahamut, Grimnir, Wrath Drake and Ouroboros other than those.
>then they proceed to storm and grimnir your face off
First off, Storm Ramp is worse than Saha Ramp.
Second off, regardless of the build, they can't just hard ramp to 10 and start playing storm. Most of the time they'll just die to board, especially against drcks like Midshadow and Kys. Dragon needs to stabilize first by playing their heals and boars clears.
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>>180174375
/svg/ is always full of retards and some minority of sensible people trying to reason with the said retards.
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>>180174579
>>180174593
>>180174502
.>>180174285
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>>180174375
See >>180174312
You can see very clearly one there.
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>>180174312
(You)
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>>180174312
no need for the sour grapes then if you don't have the card/legendary anon, either show what you do have currently so folks can tell you what to put in, or be creative and slip in something that you have that you think could work. That's the beauty of card games after all
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>>180174619
>sensible people trying to reason with retards

Only retards try to reason with the unreasonable. Can we just talk about how good Neutral haven is going to be when WoD comes out instead?
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>>180167725
Rest easy, rowen. You'll be relegated to meme decks when everyone drops you for kaiba
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>3 damage board clear
>Kills your own minions too
>7PP

Isn't it a bit expensive?
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So scary, I efficiently answered his board on every turn and he never was able to land any damage on me and he still almost got me in one turn.
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>>180174835
It's a neutral card, it's not supposed to be good
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>>180174845
>aegis AND seraph
jesus fuck
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>>180174312
are you that guy who crafted 3x eidolon last expansion
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>>180174835
Just play saha-fil bro
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>>180174835
So is Themis. Can't be chooser for a card that is available to everyone.

T2 just gets more retarded
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>>180174890
I am the mad cyclone!
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>>180174845
>Aegis, Seraph and Bahamut
what's wrong with you?
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>>180174995
He's prepared
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>>180174995
If I have all the win conditions, how can I possibly lose?
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>>180174895
>>180174995
Hey my guy it never hurts to have a second win condition.
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>>180174995
If Dragon can play 30 legos in a deck, why can't he?
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>>180175049
die to KYS blood
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>>180174930
There are always exceptions
The baseline is that neutral cards are supposed to be worse than class specific cards
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>>180175145
Bahamut says hi
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>>180175186
What the fuck did I JUST say
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>>180175186
he is fucking bahamut,its supposed to be the strongest card lore wise
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>>180175236
he also was what initiated the beginning of the end for this game
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>>180175186
Just wait for the first 10 cost class legendary
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>>180174895
>>180174995
>w-why aren't y-you n-netdecking you shitter!
You guys are the cancer that are killing card games.
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>>180175145
But eggsplosion is exactly as good was Cyclone Knight / Hamda + cyclone blade
It should be 8pp
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>>180175307
Hey man I play my own deck. What's your counter argument now?
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>>180174579
>ignoring that I have 197 control haven wins in masters
wew
Also I never said my control dirt was high win rate, I just mentioned playing it alongside Cblood and Haven. And it is because I tried running Cblood and Cdirt in ToG meta that I know that any control deck that does not have haven-tier win conditions is worthless.

>>180174593
I always viewed Ramp as its own thing rather than part of the control archetype.
Mainly because they function differently in the sense that ramp decks try to get resource advantage over the opponent and outvalue them, thus allowing them to use their late game cards in midgame, which is different from what control decks do, because they stall so they can play their late game combos and win.
>Define Control cards.
Anything that controls the opponents board (be it removal, banish, transformation, attack-lock etc.) and anything that stalls (heals and wards).
>Lyrial/Unica
Most ramp dragons don't run those, Lyrial is also far more aggro than control, which is why it is run in Face Dragon.
>Isra
Dragon players were only using it with Zell.
>Bahamut and Ourobouros
Those are only partly control cards, they are more like either answer them or die next turn type of cards.
>Wrath Drake
If it wasn't for the midshadow meta, ramp dragon wouldn't even run it.
>First off, Storm Ramp is worse than Saha Ramp.
Lmao, then why is masters full of Storm Ramp instead of Saha Ramp?
>Second off, regardless of the build, they can't just hard ramp to 10 and start playing storm.
They could prior to nerf because of Zell combos, now that Zell has been nerfed though they obviously cannot do that, which is why they are forced to play like a control deck given the situation.

Besides even aggro decks need to stabilize the board and play like control given the situation, and even aggro decks run control cards, so neither of these are actual indicators of a control deck, which is where you are mistaken. I would have given examples but post limit reached.
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>>180175284
But we already have bahamut and Ursula
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>>180175307
>if you don't clutter your deck with high cost cards that you can't play before turn 8 you're a netdecking shitter
woah
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Ramp is tempo not control you shitheads
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>sword is unplayable
yeah, right
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>>180175336
>having a body on the board after
nah, it's egg + 3 PP which is roughly equal to an evo
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>>180175554
everything is viable in D0
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>>180175554
>cropping out your rank
>4 match winstreak only
Hello B rank shitter.
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Alright, I've got to ask. At the rate that the expansions for this game are going how long will it take for Cygames to make this game completely unplayable? They have consistently released cards that fuck their game up until they fix them and every time they apply fixes they leave something out. I'm spilling salt fucking everywhere as I type this over how much I run into the Mad Cyclone meme now'a'days and i just don't get it. Are they just going to keep making the game worse and worse with the excuse of "we want games to end fast" until people move on or get used to it? This post isn't just about grimnir though, I'm legitimately confused why a dev for a game like this would ever decide to print cards that have no real downside.
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>>180175445
Not that guy but the originall poster but I only run 2 seraphs, 1 aegis and bahamut.Never bricked once. It's essentially a seraph that that runs more removal like the aegis deck those because not many people are running odin these days.
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>>180175709
They should just kill Grimnir entirely. I hate that card so much.
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>>180175709
Maybe they will rotate sets and everything will be okay.
Except for Sword and Forest, both which got nothing recently
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>>180175579
>>180175601
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>>180175861
>5 winstreak
>AA1
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>>180175990
Sorry for not being masters anon-kun, I've been playing for a month only
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I'm sick of Cygames's shit, I am creating my own shadowverse with actual balance and no train people.
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How many score rewards do you grind each month?
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>banish 2 of my rites.
>finish her off with newt + double altered fate and gryphon archer instead.
Serves you right for being completely no fun allowed, with shit like Aegis.
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>>180176110
the question that everyone have in their heads:
will it have armpits?
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>>180175718
eh that's almost like my Seraph deck except I don't run snake priestess and temple defender
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>3x Veteran Lancer
>3x Bellringer
>3x Whole Souled Swing
>3x Grimnir
>3x White Paladin
>3x Cinderella
>2x Momo
>3x Amelia
>3x Jeno
>3x White Ridge Swordman
>3x Aurelia
>3x Roland
>3x Frontguard General
>2x Hero of Antique

HOW MANY WARDS IS TOO MANY
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>A new expansion
>Forest got new cards that synergize with nothing

Feels painful to be alive.
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>>180176264
I will be using the card art from Shadowverse, so obviously.
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>>180175225
Face it, at this point that rule no longer applies. In fact that's why eggsplosion stands out so much this expansion, it looks like a card from standard.
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>>180176227
>newt+altered fate
>complaining about no fun allowed

It sure is fun and interactive losing to nothing but unavoidable burn damage.
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>>180176317
nice x5 wards on your board bro
it'd be a shame if something would happen to them
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>>180176298
What are you running then Aria? With all the stormshit you see on ladder you can never be to careful which is why I put in wards in replacement to beastcall aria.
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>>180176430
>unavoidable
just attack it bro
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>>180176410
Bahamut is just another exception, by the same token I could take Zeus as an example of a shitty neutral legendary that nobody would actually run in constructed
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This general is a tragedy.
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>>180176452
Aria, Themis and Judge, also didn't see that death sentence
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>>180176554
Dragon uses it. Anyway my point is, look at the other neutral card from this expansion, none of them are particularly bad except for eggsplosion.
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>>180176612
It's only just begun!
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>>180174501
Why would you ever run Daria in a PtP list?
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>>180176663
Most of then are not particularly good either.
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High PP neutrals are overpowered because classes dont have that many 9pp and 10pp drops and nobody is supposed to get to 10pp
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>>180176676
Stop bricking my hand all the time.
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>>180176370
They got new cards that synergize with fairies though.
In other words, just roach your way to victory again.
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>>180176719
only dragon uses high PP neutrals
everyone else have better options
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>>180176712
Your original point was that neutrals are supposed to be straight up worse/bad. That obviously doesn't hold true nowadays.
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>>180176827
Because they made two good neutral cards?
It's more like my point holds true because they're printing Eggsplosion
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>>180176073
Nobody hated on you for being a shitter, but because you think your opinion as a shitter matters
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>>180176887
>Because they made two good neutral cards?
Are you just pretended to be retarded now?
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>>180176929
>Are you just pretended
Thinking emote
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>>180176982
HEH I SEE YOU MADE A TYPO TOUGH LUCK PAL
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>>180176982
>discord
oh well that explain things
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