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"Undertuned" they said Edition

What's new?

>Malthael's Bargain; Now LIVE
>The event lasts until June 26
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20811888/

>Malthael, Aspect of Death; Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/malthael/
https://youtu.be/qSBHR77CqTE

>Latest In-Development video
>Malthael, Summer fun skins, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20834649/
https://youtu.be/GMcd8QEPzUY

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838720/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852957/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838723/

>Where can I talk to like minded individuals to discuss shitposting?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

Previous thread: >>180034978
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>reroll common box from the shitty brawl
nice
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2nd for

OH MY GOD ITS SO FUCKING HOT

KILL ME
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>>180124703
Might be, I don't play enough Diablo to be able to accurately tell. But it definitely feels like it's a lot better than the other talents on that row, since it opens up the possibility of QEQ to pickoff a squishy
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So, I currently have a hardon for mages and am considering buying Guldan. Hows he? Worth it? Can I solo queue with him?
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>>180125293
What other mages do you play? Guldan has no CC (other than ult) and it's much more a pick for pressuring the enemy health bars down than bursting them.
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>>180125293
ridiculously overpowered

fun to play too
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Who the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>180125510
Ive got Jaina, Li Ming and KT. Good eith Jaina, passable with Li and horrible with KT.
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How the fuck does Butcher outrun literally everyone in the cast when he is so fat?
How does he do it?
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>>180125293
Like most mages in the correct match-ups Gul'dan carries hard.
If the enemy has enough dive and or anub'arak he gets cucked at every opportunity though.
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>>180126369
its the power of love
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Nth for remove BRs
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>Play all the team league games in the history of hots with my bro
>He has only played team league with me too
>In last season we got diamond 3 after placements
>Now i got plat 1 and he got diamond 3
>He has not played solo ranked and i were master in solo last season (if that even matters at all)
So explain to me how the placement system works again?
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>>180125293
has nice waveclear
has nice dps but not really bursty
has no stuns or escapes until 10 and 20 respectively
after playing chromie, li ming or increased icebolt range jaina, it might be hard to adjust to his fel flame range though
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>>180125510
he's got slow with his E talent but isn't the Q build better
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post lewd elves
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>>180125293
He is maybe the second or third best mage in the game. He has retarded damage, absurd pressure on the enemy team, requires at least 2 divers on the enemy team (who better have followup or they'll get horrified and die instantly to a free hunter's mark on a 3s aoe fear) to deal with and is also stupidly good in lane.

If you have a healer and somebody who peels he has basically no weaknesses.
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>>180126728
Yes. The E build is only somewhat better if for some reason you don't have literally any support on your team, but then picking Gul'dan is suicide anyway.
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>>180126795
Proud and noble.
Not lewd.
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>>180126808
Whos the best?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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How should I be playing Ragnaros? I go meteor build for everything but minion maps (Shrines, Golems, Garden) and for those I put into the Hammer. I do stun ult on two lane maps and lava on 3 lane. Also go for better D still at level 20.
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>Be from Dota
>Decide to try hots
>It's pretty fun
>Decide to calibrate after getting 10 people to 5
>1st match seeing Gold 2's and 3's
>"Cool I'm on the cusp of platinum right off the bat"
>Keep losing for various reasons
>Silver borders have appeared

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>place Bronze1
>in Team League

What's an efficient method to commit sudoku, /hotsg/?
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>>180126894
>>180126728
post your guldan builds so i can learn
i always thought the E quest was the best
the other E talents are shit though, because the slow only happens 6s after you hit them, and you're not likely to hit someone with 3 Es even with the completed quest

are any of the drain life talents worth taking or are they blizzard designed noob traps?
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Ah, now I know how those diablos were so tanky, they had a lt morales with them.
I could just jump in whenever I wanted, toss people around, and my health wouldn't drop, or barely drop.
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>>180127090
Really, where is Maiev right now? I remember watching a Legion cinematic where she was releasing a few demon hunters and that's it.
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>>180127036
Kael or Li
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>>180128021
Imagine when Mercy gets put into the game

>Morales and Mercy healing
>2 immortal tanks
>Li Ming or any other good Assassin killing shit from the back
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>>180127602
>>180127832
why even care? Hero League is such garbage with the match making and luck can effect you more than anything else. It's a fun game and I love it but it has serious issues to truly be "competitive" I mean hell, you can fuck up just right late game where in less than a minute you can give the badly losing enemy team: 2+ lvl adjustment, 60 seconds free on the map to get camps and eat a lane (and if obj is up that is very possible) and camps. That kind of swing in power play is awful and shows how weak the design is for it.
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>>180128380
>Die and play like shit for the first 10-12 minutes
>Get to the 40-60 second cool down
>"THIS IS BULLSHIT"
Learn how to play faggot. If its late game killing you should have a bigger impact than anything else.
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>>180128380

It may be the dota in me speaking, but I don't think the core's have enough health.
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>>180128358
Mercy would be a morales with mobility and a damage boost, as well as aoe res. I don't think they would ever put her in the game
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>reghar and chen are both common picks in tournaments
explain this
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>>180128650
I'm the flip and moat of my games are comebacks where the enemy team gets wipe and because we have been getting kick in so hard reorganize and push a win usually. The nature of the game makes it too easy to shit out a win dude to either dumb luck or bad timing for on minute.
>>180128675
I think you are half right or rather the Core needs reworks somehow but I'm not sure how, on one hand it seems nuts that a full wave of minions can clear it out in 30 seconds give or take but at the same time if you make it the minions can't overpower it then split pushing becomes much less useful.
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>>180128756
agreed, sooner would they put in Bastion which would just be St. Hammer: Machine gun edition.
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>>180129015
Whats wrong with Rehgod? Decent heals, mobility, AOE slow, no mana problem, can bite peoples asses. 3rd best supp right there.
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>people underestimate Tass' Lazer AA, they let me attack em freely, sometimes b stepping while at it
>only 5 minutes in, already completed that AA quest
>ends up top hero damage(100k+) despite having force wall as ult.
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>>180129365
Templar's Will and Prismatic Link is bullshit OP, only a matter of time before people caught on.
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>>180126902
elves are made for loving though
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>>180129490
what
you mean people ever built him differently?
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>>180129606
Yes. Archon was popular for a while after the rework despite Prismatic link and Templar's will still being better at the time.
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Quality of game is monster ass right now.

Also fucking love a good old MMR reset. Can't believe there's some diamond pleb right now riding a lucky streak.
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>>180128675
I think being able to 100-0 a core with no minion wave is stupid as fuck
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>>180129731
muh team am i rite?
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>tfw nobody to friend and get 15 ai games with
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>>180129930
We should get a Nazebo edit of this.
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when is the teaser for the next hero going to come out
how long does blizzard take between each release/teaser?
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GIVE SUMMER SKINS NOW
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>>180130162
Probably like 2 more weeks for any news
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>>180130162
Timeline goes like this every release

>Week 1: Hero release
>Week 2: PTR patch fixes
>End of week 2: Teaser for next hero
>Beginning of week 3: Reveal of next hero
>Tuesday week 3: PTR
>Tuesday week 4: New hero release
>Rinse repeat
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>>180129930
Here is what a random QM looks like after MMR reset.
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>>180130364
how do i see my qm mmr?
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>>180130435
Uploading replays to hotslogs.
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>tfw all the heroes you like are shit in QM
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>>180130364
>hotslogs
>accurate
>QM
laffin
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>>180130080
>too beta to just queue with randoms in New Player Chat
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>>180130364
>MMR reset
When?
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>>180130660
At the start of a season.
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>>180130609
Everyone would rather talk politics and have fruitless internet arguments. I've been asking for about 20 minutes now.
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how do you counter malthael
want some free wins now that everyone is picking him
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>>180130958
silence or stun deleted him
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>>180131056
i meant some good chars that are guaranteed to stomp him
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>>180130958
just play a ranged assassin
focus him down if he tries to jump in and fuck you
avoid his single skillshot
bait him into overextending and cc him
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>>180131171
Pretty much any ranged assassin, since he wont be able to meme you.
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>>180130080
How? every fucking looking for group team that's all they fucking want to do.
I just finished power rushing 10 3 minute beginner ai games, I didn't even want to do them, I just got tried of trying to find a QM and just gave in.
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>>180130364
i thought the high variance was only for people on the extreme end of the mmr spectrum but if you're getting this kind of shit mm at 2k mmr this game is beyond hope
this is the bracket with 90% of playerbase and you still get 300-500 diff
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>>180131171
Alarak fucks him into next week
Lunara also
Tracer
Nazeebo does pretty good
Valla wins trades as does Greymane

All of these of course mean you need to actually be good at any of these to actually "stomp", no counter is perfect.
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>>180130958

Valla rapes him
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>>180131171
>>180131337
most ranged anything more so if they have a stun/root like Kal. Hell Cassai kicks his shit in.
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>>180130832
Excuses.

They're begging for ai farm parties 24/7.
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>>180131424
Hotslogs data is beyond fucked, do not take those values seriously
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>>180131424
Everyone eventually gets settled and they start to look more like this.
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>Thrall dies once
>A player has left the game!
>Tab
>Silenced

It's like pottery.
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>>180131676
Blizzard has said it is pretty accurate. It is also internally consistent. Good enough for making comparisons between players.
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>>180131837
but why
what is this chase for rank and status?
whats the point?
do you play to see a number get bigger?
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>>180131837
Yeah, at last year's Blizzcon. People stopped using it a while ago.

We won't know how fucked we really are until they release their own API.
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>>180131994
>when your life is so shitty that all you have going for it is your the best at a free to play Moba than most people
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>1st pick tank
>go afk thinking it will be alright
>come back to this
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>>180130698
That's only for HL isn't it
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>>180132032
>People stopped using it a while ago
Before I started uploading replays there was a surprising amount of my games up. It's also not that uncommon to see duplicates when I upload replays. Still seems to be pretty popular.
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>>180131837
>trusting hotslogs data after they pulled the adblock bullshit
They probably lost half of their userbase with that
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>>180132615
When I did my placement matches last season 4 out of the 10 were on it and I didn't upload any of them. There has to be quite a few people still using it for a random player to have 40% of their ranked matches on it.
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who types like this?
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how do i play alarak
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>>180132504
Supposedly. QM has been especially bad since the start of the season though. Matches like that would happen before but it is way more common now. On the plus side tanks also seem to be way more common.
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>>180133241
What's wrong with it?
Do you not change what you're typing based on new information?
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Xth for Johanna.

Very tanky
Very CC-Happy
Very unstoppable
Doesn't die ever after level 20

Really great hero.
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>>180133676
You forgot that she has the best D.
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>>180133556
zap people with your abilities
e on cooldown
w combos into Q
w people towards your team or out of position, not just always straight towards you
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Stitches is really fun recently. I love the new Hungry Hungry stitches, although it makes taking his new heal talent really hard to consider.
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>>180133642
>Write name
>Jump back
>Add some letters
>Jump to end
>Add some letters
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>mfw I realized that the Raven Lord and the Grave Keeper are actually friends and "Towers of Doom" is just a game they play using some disposable "Heroes"
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>>180134271
more like the gayven lord and gayve keeper
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>>180134271
Are you suggesting that the reason the raven lord hasn't just consumed the grave keeper yet is because he enjoys the rivalry?
Because that's anime as shit.
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>>180134429
How utterly droll.
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>>180134271
Even if that's true, they have a hell of a time doing it

>dat Raven Lord Laugh

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_bg/Map%20-%20Towers%20of%20Doom/FieldofSlaughter_Horseman_Laugh05.ogg
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>>180134170
Yes, and?
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Stealthily, the wild Azmodan and Sergeant Hammer hide in the bushes. Only pesky diminutive heroes can pick up on their plans, usually other Azmos or Hammers. They will usually duel. It is unclear who will win, but an Azmo is usually screwed against multiple. It avoids confrontation unless it has team support as well.
I am David Fuckwit, and we'll check in next time for a look at the elusive Tracer Zarya combo and the autism of the Genji.
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>>180134542
>The Garden lady is the obligatory tsundere
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>Play Genji
>Blow 1 Q at the air
>Wait until Q is 2/3 recharged
>Swift strike onto split pushing Azmo and double shingan Q him just before my Q recharges, then put 3 more Shingan Qs into him, then D jump after him and put two more Shingan Qs into him
>7 full Shingan Qs into him in 2 seconds
>He's dead before he can walk to tower

Is it ever NOT the right call to take Shuri quest + shingan as Genji? Assassinating even tanky motherfuckers like it's nothing once I'm post 13 with my quest done
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If this game was designed to have only one map, which do you think blizzard would have picked? I vote this one

>3 lanes
>Transformation
>Lots of boss fight points
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>>180136415
i dont know if it's actually optimal but it's pretty damn fun to take flow like water against heavy melee teams and get 3s cooldown swift strikes
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>>180131837
but I don't understand I have never uploaded a replay
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Why is he so perfect, boys?
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>>180136531
>Qm
>Garden of terror
>Map is dark all the time because no one collects every seed
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>>180126795
>post lewd elves
>posts a dragon
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>>180136531
Cursed hollow
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>>180137027
Because he is our King.
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>Get random lag spikes no matter what setting I do
>Play any other game hardly ever lag

I ended up uninstalling and reinstalling the game because it actually saved some memory. Hopefully that will fix the issue or at least make it better.
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>that 5th game of fnatic vs dig

how can korea even compete
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>>180127551
i take all E+lava wave (unless team needs hammer burst) and pretend im a specialist
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>>180133758
I'd like if she gave me her best D.
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>>180137108
This, best map.
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Does anyone have the pic of Blizzard confirming the raptor animation will be redone?
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>>180138306
You don't like how it's walking as if it really has to pee?
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What's it gonna be??
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>>180138306

Hopefully it's never fixed. That animation is funny as shitt
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>>180138306
I believe I saw a Reddit post of a confirmed dev stating it.
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Been playing Varian in QM. I'm not very good.

What I've been doing is:

Take Quest at level 1
Then super-parry, then the heal on hit, Then Fury.
Mortal Strike at 13 (Shattering Throw if the other side has shield-users)
Armor banner
Frenzy

In a good game I feel mostly useless until 10, we often get down a level, and then once the talents start stacking up he gets ridiculous, like winning 1v3s, then powering through the other team once I've got the post-Fury talents and the quest done.

Should I be doing something else? (short of swapping out of Fury depending on matchup, but I'm not as good with the Taunt build, and Fury just seems better than Colossus Smash)
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>>180138551
is it...
GARBAGE?
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>>180139059
>, but I'm not as good with the Taunt build
Change your cast settings to quick cast or quick cast on release if you're a casual like me. It'll help a lot.
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>>180138306
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20755657167
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>>180139175

They stained my wife
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>>180139293
She got BRAP'd on
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REMOVE SPIDER QUEEN
REMOVE WARHEAD
THESE MAPS ARE SHIT
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>>180139059
Super-charge on 4 for full fury.
13 varies more.
Speed banner for fury.

After 10, any time you see a solo hero, kill it. Any other time, take merc camps.
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>>180139059
Colossus Smash is best if they have soft targets that you want to kill quickly, like a healer that's hard to reach, or a Kael.
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>>180139278
ty anon
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>>180134271
Honestly their dialog/rival on Towers makes me think of the Marvel Comics Elders of the Universe where they are just really old god like creatures playing games of chance over petty things that would seem grand to mere mortals. Considering how much the team loves comics and anime shit I wouldn't be surprised if it's an intentional lift/rift of it since they both act in mannerisms much like Grandmaster and Prime Mover when they were using heroes and villains in a 5 vs 5 battle over reasons I can't remember now.
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>>180135076
Thats the headless horseman
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>>180134271

One of the many reasons ToD is my favorite map. I love when the tunnels open.
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>>180134271
>The edgy scythe hood man is BFFs with the elegant voiced black bird man
Metal.
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>>180140271
I KNEW I COULD DO THAT
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>>180134271
I fucking love them. I honestly like the Grave Keeper a lot and wish he wasn't tied to the awful Haunted Mines.
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>have 4 great games
>coordinated teams
>all play well

>now 2 games in a row, multiple muteds
>russians
>whiners

forced 50 doesnt exist you guys!
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>>180140474
do you play the same times every time?
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>playing Lunara
>took Leaping Strike
>enemy Stitches hooks and gorges me into his team
>when he burps me out I just leap over one of the enemies towards my team
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>>180139217
>>180139428
Thanks, trying these right now.

Pre-10 I follow other players since 90% of solo fights end up with me parrying and running back to a wall since I don't have the damage or sustain to finish much. I tend to hit a lot of merc camps post-10 because I seem to be better at not stupidly dying than the typical QM shitter and as such end up with more solo time than I'd like.

Does taking Warbringer at 4 mean Juggernaut at 13 is a reasonable general-purpose talent?

>>180139485

Good point. The past several times I've played I've seen a lot more warriors than normal, so perhaps my love of Fury is situational and I hadn't realized it.
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>>180140474
>steamroll in your favor
>whoa, the good teams I so deserve
>get steamrolled
>rofl forced 50

Sometimes I can't tell if people are being genuine in their bitching.
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>>180140563
what
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>>180140834
my shirt says WHAT in english?
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>>180140427
>One of the lines Grave Keeper says in ToD is "I will not go back to those accursed mines!"

Even the Grave Keeper thinks Haunted Mines is shit
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>>180140793
how about

both scenarios fucking suck

i want even games

CUHRAZY RIGHHT
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>>180136983
You've probably been in games people have uploaded replays of.
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>>180140789
>Does taking Warbringer at 4 mean Juggernaut at 13 is a reasonable general-purpose talent?
It's a good default, but if you see a lot of healing or shielding on the enemy team the other options are of course superior.
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>>180140964
Same, but you know the snowbally nature of games.

>draft weak as shit early game
>lose first objective
>hurr gg this team

I've also just had sad games where somebody on the enemy team gets caught out at 20 minutes doing some dumb shit. Like, hey. Imma invade your siege camp. Solo. On Valla.
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>>180140909
It's one of my favorite maps, personally.

The three I hate most are Hanamura (meh), Towers of Doom (ugh), and Blackheart's Bay (God fucking damn it).
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Shoo?
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>>180141372
Its your least favorite legendary hero
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>>180141372

Shitty bike
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>>180141435
>>180141447
Cheesy Samus Space Leo. I already got him in black/red. I dunno, I'll try him. Honestly, I need to try to learn Leo. He's supposedly okay now?
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>>180136415
Tomb is "Build around E damage" the map.
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>>180141347
its nothing to do with the game

its everyone is lazy to make a proper matchmaking algorighm
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>pick varian
>QM
>get nice and excited because i can finally go twin blades on some niggers
>see teamcomps
>pretty much the only way we win is if i go taunt

sigh
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>>180141585
I hate it when this happens. It's even worse than getting a duplicate, as a duplicate can be turned into something useful at least
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>>180141585
He's not bad, and you feel like an unkillable rock if you're doing well with him. I build around his W and it works well for me, like so:
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/leoric#kgAZ

My girlfriend prefers a pure tank build. I've never asked her exactly what she uses, but it's something like:
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/leoric#ryW4
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>>180141830
varian is locked as tank now
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>>180141830
They made it so the matchmaking considers you a Tank.
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>>180141585
Leo has always been decent.
The issue is knowing when to draft him and when to avoid him, because he's not a tank.
He is capable of solo-laning if not dual-laning based on the map better than most of the cast though, as he clears a wave in about 3-5 seconds with his PvE build.
He is capable of fucking people if he goes hard into his W build too, but that build doesn't really come online until 13 and doesn't get good until 16.

Typical PvE Leoric with some ability to actually participate in team fights and not instantly die:
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/leoric#pAHp

Typical PvP Leoric who is sucking dudes off left and right.
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/leoric#jvK1
Four is typically a flex talent based on where you'll be getting most of your healing from. Fealty on maps like spiders, Willing on two-lane maps, Hardened against deletion comps and heavy root comps. Royal focus is almost only for PvE.
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WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO STEALTH
CANT FUCKING SEE IT
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I feel like if Malthael recieves even the smallest of nerfs he'll be absolute dumpster tier

Like he's only barely good right now cause people don't know how to play against him and that anyone that doesn't need to be right up against him shits on him
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>>180142318
They did nothing, clean your monitor.
Unless you just now realized that characters with Unrevealable are actually invisible during that period, yeah that sucks.
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>>180133556
Step 1: Get good with his abilities. Landing W gets you free kills. Landing Q is crucial too. Alt-W shoves yourself in the direction you're facing, handy shortcut. Quickcast is a must on W.
Step 2: If you have low FPS, turn down your graphics. Seriously. You have to be quick on the draw.
Step 3: Chill the fuck out. The instant you panic, you lose.
Step 4: Don't fucking die. It's not game over if you do but it's a lot easier to win if you don't. Position defensively most of the time but also be ready for an aggressive W pull. This changes with comp, obviously, but look to pull enemies without escape skills especially.
Step 5: Good safe talent build is 1-1-3-CS-3-3-3. Most rigid parts of his build are 4, 13, and 16. Chaos Reigns, Rite of Rak'Shir, and Mocking Strikes are way too good to pass up. 20 varies a ton, 7 is whatever you want (I prefer Applied Force because initiation range + escape distance), and 1 is comp-dependent and "don't pick Ruthless Momentum, it's fucking garbage".
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>>180142402
my monitor is spotless
i stood SPECIFICALLY still looking for shimmers
there were none
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>>180142385

He's good against melee, but ranged SHITS on him, like he's so helpless against ranged it's almost physically painful.
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>>180136531
Dragon Shire is the dopest map.
>3-lane map
>objective is important but you don't auto-lose if you don't get it
>objective encourages decisive map control
>objective is a transform summon and fun to use as well
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So what's the consensus on the Malf rework?

He seems like a weaker healer now, but holy shit dem fukken trees
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If this game allowed you to make a team with repeated characters, what would be the strongest possible team in which all 5 characters are the same?
5 Anub?
5 Murky?
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>>180136701
Wouldn't that drain mana really fast?
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>>180142528
>He's good against melee
Except Butcher. I love Malthaels thinking they can 1v1 me.
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>>180142950
5 Alarak.
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>>180142950

5 Auriels.
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>>180142950
5 Cho'Galls duh
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>>180142950
15 Vikings.
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>>180142847
Go full Moonfire build and become a specialist/healer hybrid
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>>180143038

She does no damage, where will the energy come from?
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>>180142950

5 ultra coordinated Chromies would be fucking fun to watch.

Also I played her for the first time today. That voice....
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>>180142528
Yeah, you can't land a E on a fleeing Jaina. Unless they're way out of position, you're not getting them.
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>>180142950
5 max orb Li ming
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WHY IS HE SO FUCKING FUN TO PLAY
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>180143504
Low stress + high effectiveness = fun

He's one of my favorites
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>>180143504
Because his deaths don't mean much while forcing the enemy to ignore you letting you push hard or go for you and waste getting the objective. Despite all that he can 1v1 most heroes even if they do try to fight him.
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Let's play the "Guess which spec Varian went" game
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>>180143504

People underestimate Beta Uprising
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>>180143504
>>180143579
>>180143938
>>180144127
Also look at my players. Are the most palyed heroes the only good heroes. I assume that everything on the bottom row is unfun trash. Pls tell me im wrong
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>>180142950

5 Lost Vikings
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What heroes are best strickly speak for occupying the objecting and fighting near said objective?

For instance Johan is absurd on infernal shrines with the minus cool-down on condemn. You can blast one every two seconds.
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>>180144465
Diablo.
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>>180144465

honestly uther.
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>>180143245
>5 Sands of Time things active at the same time at all times
>>
>Team keeps feeding and while not getting the objectives or pushing
>Somehow I get full blame

Of course it doesn't help we always gets a fucking nova who picks triple tap.
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>>180142950
5 falstad would be pretty good
any time 2+ enemies show at an objective there are suddenly 5 birds gangbanging a fort to death
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I fucking love Genji, when things go just as they should you just wreck their shit.
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Who do I play next /hotsg/
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>>180145653
auto select
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how the fuck do i build/combo as valeera
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>>180145279
I see that all the time with Murky from gold players. Any bad call and it's murky's fault. Tank goes 1v5? It's murky's fault. They go for boss with full enemy team up and die? It's murky's fault.
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>>180143956
Arms, but with enough Fury mixed in to make it shitty(er)!
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>>180144465
Leoric is fantastic in Braxis Holdout.
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>took me 140 games to get back to grandmaster
Normally takes me about 40. Gutting skill bonus in addition to all the new players made diamond literally MMR hell, just praying you had more grandmasters and less platinums.
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>>180145878
how do i combo
take initiative at 4
then your combo is just invis-E-Q-E

invis-Q-Q-E is more damage but no CC so use it when you don't have buddies around to take advantage of the stun
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>>180146169
No one puts baby in the corner
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>>180146175
>invis-E-Q-E
wait shit i fucked up stun is W not E
so it should be invis-W-Q-E
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>>180124649
So I went into Draft for the first time as the Vikings, my first real out of vs ai experience.

As you can see by the level difference on the bottom, I did well. Though our Uther got a bit snippy at me for not taking the Terror and letting it wilt, but I was to focused on soaking to get to it. Plus I felt it would be detrimental to focus on protecting to Vikings in Lane while I pushed as another Viking, and what would happen if they died and then my third Viking died?

Stitches was a brosef and took on the role of grabbing the Terror. I just did my job of soaking, fighting Minions, and occasionally grabbing Camps.

tl:dr, My first Viking outing was a success! I can't believe I used to think of them as a meme pick.
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>>180145653
>>180145653
Cassia if you want to play a character that requires skill/good positioning/ and good understanding of skill shot use

Muradin if you want to play a short unkillable stun midget with no damage except a autism aoe circle/burst damage

Nazeebo if you want to play a frail Voodoman of magic that requires you to spec one certain type of Ability to make him do crazy damage

Sonya if you want to play a Shitty female Varian

Uther if you want to play a better support that does good damage and stun but makes you wait 2 hours for your ability to cool down

Varian if you want to play Autism Fury sword or an unkillable mega tank mid-late game

Xul if you want to play the white Nazeebo that focuses more on Minions/Split pushing

Raynor if you want to play a Terran RTS Marine

Jaina if you want to play the annoying slow poke mage

Diablo if you want to play autism devil and smash into things the whole game while not getting killed

Zarya if you want to not have fun
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>>180145612
I really wasn't impressed with genji on the ptr. On live, after practicing a bit, he's making me feel like a god. Haven't felt this good since ignite Kael.
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>>180146407
Cool blog brah.
Glad you've joined the ranks of lost memers.
You take the terror, because even if your Vikings die, you're still fine, and if you have to suicide the terror for a keep, it's no big loss losing the hero inside as well. I just recommend to find a comfy bush to hide two of your guys in while you run around with terror.
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who's it gonna be

pls b malth before I spend 750 gems on him
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>Finally got Uther to level 10 and got that Uther chest
>3 voice lines, 1 Uther hearthstone portrait
>rerolled, got 2 voice lines, 1 emoji, 1 Uther hearthstone portrait
>rerolled again, got 2 emojis, 1 voice line, 1 Uther hearthstone portrait
>REROLLED AGAIN, GOT 2 SPRAYS 1 VOICE LINE 1 HEARTHSTONE UTHER PORTRAIT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180146749
>37k gold
>spending gems
Wtf man
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>>180146749
It's going to be The Lost Vikings
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>>180146784
Dude just play hearthstone lmao
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>>180147043
you know why he's doing it
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>>180146430
>Nazeebo if you want to play a frail Voodoman of magic that requires you to spec one certain type of Ability to make him do crazy damage

What's the hot 'Zeebs spec these days?
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>>180147153
Full spiders, but frogs can be more flashy.
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>>180147153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99hDl0eQMR8
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>>180147153
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>>180147272
>>180147153
Wait, people do full spiders now again? But Thing from the Deep, Zombies and all the voodoo talents are way more fun.
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>they leave the specialist alone in Haunted Mines during skull phase
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>>180147541
Spiders give absurd value if you actually.land them, and they're the supreme meme spec.
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>>180147541
but they do worse damage
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God ragnaros is fucking garbage
why is he even in the game
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>>180134429
>>180134561
Haha I know r-right?
The Raven Lord sounds really sexy to me
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Can someone post the immortal dps chart that was posted a few threads ago?
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>>180146175
>>180146272
alright
so how do i build her though?
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>>180137027
He is the ONLY Skelington that can Bone Johanna.
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>>180147879
>take constant nerfs
>still the best bruiser (after nothing personel angle)
What's your fucking problem, anon? Did you forget to press D?
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>>180124884
I dont get this.
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>>180148130
D? What? One of the least fucking useful abilities in the game that people can just walk away from
>>
Tosh when?
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>>180147590
zombie wall is better if they dont have lucio and e.t.c
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>>180145653
Play every single one up to lv 5 so you can get some gold.
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>>180147043
>>180147087
it's actually just more reason to not buy the summer skins bundle when I'm gonna have enough to craft any tint I want

yeah I probably shouldn't spend gems anyway but I'm still missing enough heroes to not wanna spend the extra 5k gold
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>>180143504
Everytime I hear about him I want to try him out.
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>>180148325
>walk away
>lose the objective
Yeah, good luck with that. Not to mention, it innately slows and it has the range of a third the map.
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>>180146687
If you say so.
Sorry for the blog, I was excited I actually made it work. I was fully expecting my pick in the draft to blow the whole game since I was using TLV against actual intelligent players.
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Here's another lewd update. Not sure who's next.

http://imgur.com/a/cu69J
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>>180147603
Even after the final quest?

>>180147590
I guess I'll go back to Spiders, I guess. I was really enjoying myself though.

Apparently, of all my heroes, I have the highest winrate with Nazeebo. This is despite him being like Lv. 6 as opposed to like 10 like the rest of my roster.
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>>180148484
5k gold is five bucks. Plus, very soon you'll be at the point where you either own everyone, or close enough and even rerolls don't cut into your gold supply.
t. 200k gold
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>>180148801
Nova, Kerrigan, Li Li____
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>>180148802
Spiders is actually his lowest Winrate talents, I think. Play what you enjoy, most of his power comes from his ultimate and his trait, anyway.
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>>180148801
Auriel?
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>>180148802
I think spiders are overrated. I almost always take thing of the deep and never regret it. If your good with zombie wall I think that helps your team more than the leet spooder deeps. Play what you want, try a full spider build and see if you like it better, I tend to have more survive vability with thing of the deep.
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>>180148876
Based Drawfag's already done Nova for us.
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>>180148876
>nova
that's literally on the picture already you nigger

>>180148801
Auriel and FemDiablo
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>>180148632
what objective is there near a fucking tower
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>>180148801
Maybe some dudes?
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>>180148801
Where do you post your stuff?
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>>180149245
>spider tomb
>battlefield
>shrines
>dragon Knight

I could go on, but literally every map. Even something like cursed hollow has curses and bosses near forts.
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>>180149054
>If your good with zombie wall I think that helps your team more than the leet spooder deeps
Well you wall them up and throw the spiders into the pit you dip
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>>180149142
Seconding auriel and femdiablo. Maybe auriel giving her a hug or something.
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Why the fuck did blizzard get rid of 'bolt of the storm'? I can't find any information on this topic.
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>>180149414
ZERO OBJECTIVES
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>>180149548
All generic talents have been reduced since last year.
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>>180149548
they want to remove all the generic talents
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>>180148801
>>
>sylvanas arrows target you when youre invisible
how is this fair
>>
>>180149548
It's generic and they don't like that.

They want it to be used aggressively for plays not as a "get out free" ability which is 100% of the reason it was picked.
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>>180149548
They're very slowly phasing out generic talents, either removing them or creating a unique version. Bolt is still on a few heroes.
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>>180149698
You weren't.
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>>180149698
Doesn't work that way, you were revealed by something else.
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>>180149645
>>180149658
>>180149709
>>180149736
ty
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>>180149823
>>180149781
literally everyone else were dead
she was running away
arrowd
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>>180149947
In some cases they might keep them, like how they kept Bolt of the Storm on Diablo but then made Apocalypse go off where he teleports. They'll probably make them themed teleports in the future if they decide to.
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>>180148801
Kerry and Zag
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>>180148801
>>180148876
>>180148945
>>180149142
>>180149253
>>180149374
>>180149687
The fuck is wrong with you degenerates
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>>180150106
>Not even posting the colored version
You disgrace the Highlord with your existence. Remedy this issue immediately.
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>>180148802
you mean vile infection? that works with spiders just fine, there isn't any special synergy with toads/zombies
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>>180150273
I would xcept his Alarak eyes are shit
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>>180149429
I usually wall them and my team melts them. Or use it to lockdown areas, peel, and siege. Spiders still do a lot of damage even if you don't talent them.
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>>180149709
but for some reason they don't just implement the dota blink mechanics where it goes on a 3s cooldown when you take damage
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>>180150380
Then fucking edit them out you pleb
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>>180150381
>Using your walls to block your melee team from hitting the enemies
>Not even having the courtesy to melt the the teammates you walled off for yourself
>>
I'm trying to place bronze on a smurf.

How do I go 0-10 without getting banned?

So far I've positioned badly, split from my team at every opportunity, and complained about the enemy team being OP so my team would type instead of play.

More tips welcome
>>
how is any stealth assassin sans nova is not trash?
valeera is fucking trash
zerathul is fucking garbage
samuro is triple fucking trashbag
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>>180150514
I didn't want to spend time fixing that god awful color scheme
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>>180150521
C'mon man I take the uproot zombies and cancel if I fuck up.
>Some people still don't realize you can cancel it
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>>180150557
Uh, don't soak/push lanes. Show up to team fights but only to bait your team into engaging then back off. Clear enemy mercs but don't capture.

Don't die more than a few times
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>>180150572
Zeratul can just stop an unfavorable team-fight.

But that's really it.

Valeera's a cunt

Samuro is mis-classified specialist.

Nova is a shitter league hero unless the enemy backline is squishie and also retarded.
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Who is excited for Maiev to come out next? Should be a teaser for her posted at the end of the week.
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>>180150572
>samuro is triple fucking trashbAG
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>>180150572
This has to be bait.
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>>180150718
>Nova is a shitter league hero
>1k+ damage from safe long range every couple of seconds
>armor reduction
>slow
>scouting
>global ult
only hero with better poke is ming
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>>180150106
Do you think you're funny or something? Really I want to know.
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>>180150637
Here
Faggot
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>>180150557
>>180150685
Nevermind I think I'm already in bronze after 1 game
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>>180150920
NO
PROTASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SHIP
YELLOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
PROTASSSSSSSSSSS
COMMAND KNOBS


DARK
YELLOWWWWWWWW
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>180150906
>Runs at you with any gap closer and stops you from cloaking
What now, kiddo?
>>
>>180150910
No I think drawing porn on a "work safe" board and posting it every day gives me the right to shitpost and point out the disgusting badly drawn shitty fetish I mean bush
>>
>>180150572
Are you having a giggle?
>>
>>180150739
Maiev should have channeled shackles as a basic ability. But that would make OW characters shit themselves so it won't happen. Gotta keep the new blood happy.
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>>180151139
Oh you're the mad futafag ok make sense.
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>>180150910
Same deal as any other general, whenever a drawfag becomes a regular, tards (generally just one) start shitting on him for no good reason
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>>180150572
>reveal valeera
>lose half of her kit and cc

>reveal zeratul
>teleports behind you
>pssshhh nothing personel kid
>unleash mad combo
>>
>>180150995
Speak english and I might consider actually following through on your edit request
What shit do you want colored which way
>>
>>180151203
Futafags btfo
>>
Will we ever get another Zerg hero? What would it even be? After Stukov ofc
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>>180151256
>reveal Zeratul
>He does some damage and immediately leaves

Fixed that for you.
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>>180151682
Lurker
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>>180151682
O V E R M I N D
V
E
R
M
I
N
D
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>>180151682
the lost zerglings. like vikings but there's six of them
an ultralisk. warrior with bonuses against structures and the ability to burrow
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Look ma! No hands!
>>
God damn I just keep losing with Gazlowe and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I push my lane then roam around the map once I hit 10 clearing camps and I help with the objective if it requires me to do so. I tend to end up with the highest siege AND hero damage somehow and for some reason the enemy team camps me all fucking day long and focuses my turrets even though that never happens when I play against a Gazlowe...
>>
how do I become a pro genji
>>
>>180152414
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>>180152414
You play Genji like an autist until you reach level 100 with him. Grats, now no one can beat you.
>>
>>180152296
>Gazlowe
found your problem
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>>180152414
Post your katana.
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>>180151012
name a hero other than butcher and genji
you cant

also if that happens you just stay back and poke with your fuckhuge range pokes
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>>180151256
>>reveal zeratul
>does 10 damage
>panics
>dome
omg so strong
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>>180152769
cho'gall
>>
>losing the game
>immediately start pointing fingers
Another reason why mobas are shit.
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>>180152414
dont try to do damage
you have shit for damage untill full suriken stacks and single target trait
go for pokes and finishers cause you have godlike mobility and a parry

remember
youre a squishy fuck
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>>180152939
>lose anything
>immediately start pointing fingers
Another reason why any multiplayer game is shit you fucking sperg
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>>180152720
ok
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>>180152915
laff
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>>180153025
Eat dicks, nigger. The more people that are in the game, the less it depends on one person. You socially inept, autistic faggots have no one to blame when there are 19 other people on your team playing for the same goal. It's different when the team is small and every person matters.
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>New Sylvanas skin

What if she had like, a cloak, with like... some bones on it?
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>>180153152
>lose argument
>immediately start pointing fingers
like pottery
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>>180153252
lol, kid please. Go to bed.
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so why the fuck didnt Malthael get master skin Variations? Genji and D.Va got them and they where after the change
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>>180153423
>people start waking up to go to work
>go to bed
what did he mean by this
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>>180153252
>act like a retard
>get called out
>act like a retard again
Nice.
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god zerathul is such trash
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>When you give up trying to work around the retards in your team and just go Murky non stop
Truly he is the one true carry
>>
>ctrl+f tyrande
>no lewd posting
what the fuck are you even doing in this general then???
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>>180154576
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>>180153551
From what I heard they made the master skins for Genji and D. Va before the master skin change so they released those anyways. Malthael just has more tints on his skins instead of master skins
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>>180154776
Ranked is ass
>>
>play bughat
>nobody ever tries to pop my bubble
low rank comfy life
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>>180153214
It's made after blood raven from D2.
It's also the closest possible thing we'll probably ever get to a D1 hero.
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>>180150557
pick a squishy assassin like jaina
try your best to initiate every fight by running directly towards the enemy team and casting all your spells on the first guy you see
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>>180151139
when i hear the word 'bush' i imagine some 70's shit so poofy you can't even see the main attraction
that ain't a bush, man, it's just a tiny patch of hair
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best winnings
>pick murky
>push like a motherfucker

>pick gaz
>backdoor like a motherfucker
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when is the nigger getting nerfed
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Why did they name the Black Fallen Angle Tyrone?
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>>180155783
what's the secret gaz strats? I tried playing him once and accomplished jack shit besides running out of mana
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>>180156337
The best strategy is to not pick Gazlowe.
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>>180154902
>Gold rank
>Team comp takes 3 warriors
>Lose every team fight

Truly gold is yellow bronze.
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>>180156337
level scrap and pick big goblyn guy ult
walk up to building and spam towers and smack it
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>>180142950
5 Abathurs
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>>180157246
[spin sequences engage]
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>>180142950
5 Abas because it was found out through custom games that there's a bug that makes it so if multiple abas hat the same target and one of them uses an Aba ability it applies that ability from ALL of the abas without putting it on cooldown for the others.
5 abas hatting the same minion and doing 25 spike bursts or 50 stabs and unbreakable shields within the span of 2 seconds
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>>180154576
>slime build
>vision egg
finally another man who understand murky is a manfighter.
you better go big tuna kahuna at 20 and smack some fuckers down, nothing more satisfying then easily doing 2v1 and 3v1s once oyu get that shit.
plus murky shits completely on malthael and everybodys playing him.
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>>180157246
SWARM INDOMITABLE
UNTENABLE TO OPPOSE
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>>180157237
>dies to d.va outside her mech
Shit Tyrael
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>>180157246
I want to see an abathur v abathur slapfight while eight other abathurs stand in a circle cheering.
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>>180157449
>5 abas hatting the same minion
>not hatting one of the abas and going to town on people
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>>180157246
>one abathur in lane thats a hyper deathball spewing out shots
god has abandoned all but the slug
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Which head does chogall wear bughat on?
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>>180157487
>dies to d.va outside her mech
>dies to one of the strongest autoattackers in the game
>compared to the weakest autoattacker in the game
what are you on crack
>>
why do some payloads hit twice? how can you tell?
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>>180157746
they should make it count as 2 heroes for that and give him 2 bug hat, and abathurs skill tick twice, the buff chogall needs.
:^)
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>>180154902
post your build
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>>180157916
>how can you tell?
Have you tried paying attention or reading how the map works?
>>
Force Wall is fucking ridiculous at level 20.
I can understand why people prefer Archon but this thing is a nightmare in some maps.
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>>180157916
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>>180157463
>plus murky shits completely on malthael
UH NO SWEETIE
>>180158014
Fish eye
Slime
Slime
Call of the cuck children
Bubble buddy
Slime
Big Tuna
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>>180158186
>malthael
>pic clearly shows malfurion
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>>180158186
how do i get slimetime to go up early game
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>>180158348
wait a minute
>>
>Demonic Tyrael skins except his Infernal tint were lowered to 1.6k
>All the other tristram skins are still extra priced

someone explain
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>>180158507
Infernal was the only new one, all the others had been 1600 shards since they launched 2.0
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>>180141830
If you want to play varian as anything other than tank you need to go for draft now
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>Nothing but Valla Auriel Malthael in QP
>>
Reminder Malthael is only viable as a last pick and literally 1 ranged assassin shits on his life
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>LOOK ALIVE! THEY'RE ATTACKING YOUR CORE!
>he's the one attacking your core
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>royally fuck up
>start praying that nobody noticed
Why can't I stop playing this hero, I clearly suck at it.
The real reason is probably because I suck at Zeratul combos too
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>Frostwolf's Grace
>Activate to heal

Oh well that seems okay I gu-

>Also triggers follow through
>Also took second chain lighting charge quest
>Wind rush at 20 give free windfury, so another follow through

6 follow through attacks per combo, 7 if I drop ult
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>>180159868
>YOU CAN SEE THIS HERO, YES??!!!?! THEN KILL THEM
>Valla is already cloaked and gone
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>>180160523
>Valla
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>>180156337
the fun way to play gazlowe is 0 turret talents 100% tnt/lazor
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>>180160348
Has it been doing better than Manatide+Grace of air?
>>
Abathur rework when?
>>
I can't decide if Thrall's earth-breaker skin is silly or if I've almost convinced myself I like it because it's his only "neato" skin, and I like Thrall.

I really like hooded Thrall for some reason. Earthbraker, I dunno. i sort of want to be Blue Flame Propane Shaman.
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>>180160348
it's also just more healing than grace of air anyways unless you also plan to take tempest fury for some reason
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>>180159868
>Teammate picks Hammer
>Only shoots and participates in teamfights in Siege mode
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>>180160740
No idea. I'm not up to date on what "in" with Thrall.

This is just how I've started playing him. That seems like a good combo with the cooldown reduction I suppose.

But I've found that frostwolf grace gives me a fat heal, and having two charges of lighting gets my trait off more.

I do Find I have to conserve mana a bit.

But a good Sunder then follow up is devastating with so much follow through.
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I need genji tips
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Kharazim is a cool guy.
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>garden of terror qm
>we could easily 4v5 enemy team while terror splitpushes
>team refuses to ever fight
>samuro: whats even the point of farming seeds lol
>lose
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>>180160123
desu blizz's incompetence is also at fault
there's no option to disable that automatic camera bullshit
and they only fixed the one after you hearth a few patches ago
>>
>tfw abusing the alarak bug to climb my way to masters
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>>180160979
I also find it gets negated less in that you don't rely on a long string of windfury hits, when you could get blinded.

I prefer to be able to space out the damage and threaten.

Plus if you want you can hit once will Windfury follow/Heal (which I don't believe requires an animation) then get two sped up follows with no delay.
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>>180161405
Alarak bug you say?
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>>180161470
his Q silences AND does huge damage
its insane more people aren't abusing this
>>
When is the next HGC stream?
I never know when this shit is going on.

It's so frustrating catching their biggest events at fucking 4:30 in the morning when I'm ready to sleep like what the fuck.
I decided to look this up, can anyone confirm? The next HGC stream is.. today, at 11? correct?
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>>180161491
I find him very awkward in team-fights. I'm never sure were I'm supposed to be.Like on the inner out skirts? He melts pretty fast.
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>>180161636
>pull in enemy
>stab him in the ass

It's not rocket science bro, com'on.
>>
>Wait five minutes between games in unranked.
>Get matched with the same people.
Truly the game's populations is rising.
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>>180161973
didnt happen
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>no political officer hero that can execute near-death allies to motivate teammates and deny xp
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>>180162024
Wrote the qm player.
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>>180161973
>middle of the night on a sunday
>"Why isn't everyone playing this right now like I am?"

Damn anon, its almost like they have lives or something.
>>
>>180162098
>denies
>in HotS
It's like you want to cause drama or something.
>>
>>180162098
>his execute is his Q and is on a 2 second cooldown and can be used on full health heros
I NEED THIS NOW
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>>180162170
If there aren't enough people playing, at any given time, on a free to play game, something is wrong.
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>>180162252
pic or didnt happen
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>next hero will inevitably be some destiny 2 bullshit
>next map probably will be too
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>>180162098
>denies
this triggers the hotsbab
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>>180162298
I have a pic of your mom.
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>>180162252
So what are you getting at?
Do we look like Blizzard support?

What you want us to do about it?
Quit playing the damn game then, what you want us to tell you man.
>>
>>180162319
It literally cant be worse than the overwatch shit
>>
>>180162098
>Denying your mage minion destroys the recovery orb
>tilt your opponent
>>
>>180162393
Now that you mention it, you do seem like blizzard support, trying to refute my arguments all this time.
>>
>>180162464
Stay mad you little fucker.
Nobody cares about how bored you are or your gay ass blog posts.

Go play LoL or something.
>>
>>180162319
I wish Blizzard would stick with a fucking idea and see it through to the end.
Whatever happened to the good vs evil shit?
They re-skinned/themed like 4 dudes than gave up after making two maps or something. Pretending it never even happened at this point. Like what the fuck? Desperately injecting whatever random flavor the month shit into their game hoping to make a sale isn't helping HotS at all.
>>
>>180162559
you seem a bit overly buttmangled over the fact that another anon pointed out a flaw in a game you like
it is okay to criticize things anon
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>>180162886
I really don't give a fuck about the crying retard who can't find a match at 3 in the morning on a sunday.

Low IQ retard crying about a non-issue.
>waaah I just played with this dude!! waah better tell the internet

Yeah okay.
I am 100% ass mangled my fart box will never be the same! You win.
Now fuck off an don't reply to me anymore. Fucking idiot.
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>>180162970
>blizzdrone
>burger
hmm
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>>180163038
Well, he isn't exactly wrong.

>>180162319
I'm not sure they'll try to pull something like that anytime soon. Hopefully not, anyways.
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>>180162970
>don't reply to me
fuck you i wont do what you tell me
>>
lucio is complete shit now. what the cunt?
>>
Official Blizzard API when? I want to accurately know how absolute garbage I am, and hotdogs doesn't cut it.
>>
So is D.Va shit or am I jsut shit? Cause I really fucking hate D.va
>>
>>180163158
>any hero that can make his whole fucking team move faster than the enemy
>shit
>>180163243
she's good against heroes that need to mostly stand in the same area to deal their damage, then it becomes easy to defense matrix them. Also decent peels with knocking people back that are chasing your teammates
>>
>>180163158
Lucio is still good, but not as a main healer.
>>
Is Blizzard ever going to fix Nova's description?
They have her classified as a mage.. Last time I checked sniper rifles, cloaking devices, and holograms weren't fucking magic.
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>>180163974
it just means she relies on abilities and skillshots to deal damage, compared to other assassins who can deal good bits of damage without using their skills
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>>180163974
>uhhh why is she classified as a mage
>sniper rifles, cloaking devices and holograms aren't magic

oh
sweet
summer
child
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Havent seen a memethael in 3 hs
is he kill?
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>>180164479
blizz's classifications are dumb and shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>
how in the name of fuck do i beat chromie cancer
nigger just carried two games literally could not touch him or even see him

is she first ban first pick now?
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>getting matched with 100s and 10s against 500-900+

I want to kill everyone who works at Blizzard.
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>>180164727
By getting in her face.

>>180164738
>Quick Match
>>
>>180164738
le only constant ecks deeeeee XDxddxdxd
>>
>>180164727
victory bug
>>
>>180164787
>tank peels for her
>she has stasis mines
>she has stasis
>>
>was gold2 last season
>put with silver 5s now
>getting my ass kicked
what happened
its been like a week
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>>180164889
Okay, I guess.
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>>180165039
you fell for the meme dude
>>
>>180164738
Business as usual, blizzard is happy with this so they will not change it.
>>
if you upload every game of yours to hots logs how is it NOT an accurate mmr representation like people say?
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>>180165039
it means you are shit
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>>180165198
its not 100% accurate because not everyone upgrades games

but enough games get uploaded that its like 95% accurate

ignore the reddit tier arguments about how its inaccurate
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>>180147556
>Theres a samuro on the other team on haunted mines
>>
>>180165198
Because your teammates don't upload all of their matches?

Also; what's the point? We have a semi-functional ranked system now.

>quick match mmr
pls
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>>180165382
you only need maybe 3 of the 10 people uploading games for it to be enough
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>First time playing ranked in HoTS
Did I do good, /hotsg/?
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>>180165840
Suffer well
>>
>>180165840
Placements unfortunately mean very little. Once you have ~50 games you'll know where your rank actually is.
>>
>>180165840
Pretty good, is this your first moba.
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>>180165989
not him but after placements my ques are 10+ minutes
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>enemy first picks rehgar
the moment you know the game is already lost cause the enemy doesnt have a brain dead heal bot who got forced to draft support but a support-main who carries.
>>
>>180166143
>Not playing every role so well it doesn't matter what you get forced into in the draft
>>
>>180166015
Odd. Initial placements are the only long queues longer than 2-3 minutes I've had.

>>180165840
Hard to say considering how placements work and the amount of people just lobbed right into plat/dia.

Grats, tho.
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Not even fucking around, Blizzard legit fucking hates me.
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>>180166319
>Quick match
Well there's your problem.
>>
>>180166319
Forced 5%.
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>>180166205
oh yeah tell me about your great support skills.
I'm sick of master malfs missing every second follow up root or Auriels who manage 5 stuns the entire game instead of every team fight.
>>
rise, nydus!
>>
>>180166319
h-hey man
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I

HURT

MYSELF

TODAY
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>opened sylvanass from a chest
>mfw i realize playing her requires me to press 2, sometimes 3 buttons at the same time
>>
if double tank is meta, does that mean I need to start learning to play tychus
>>
>>180166973
?
>>
>>180166963
Stop

Playing

Quickmatch
>>
>start HL game
>my internet goes away because fuck you why not
>get back 10 mins later
>my bot has the most kills and the least deaths on my team

Silver truly is a marvelous place.
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>go offlane on braxis, do pretty well
>win the game pretty handily and get MVP
>later wonder how we won so convincingly seeing as neither team drafted very well
>watch the replay
>tassadar nearly doubling the genji's damage
>auriel is crowning leoric instead of either of them
>when nazeebo rotates bottom he just misses everything

It takes away from the victory a little bit.
>>
>>180167016
Play skeleton instead
>>
>>180167048
q spam + dagger while moving and autoing

arrow + banshee + dagger + q spam WHILE moving WHILE autoing

thats two timers for the last combo you need to memorize and one of them is dynamic

i always thought this was a beginner hero but mechanically shes one of the toughest i've played yet
>>
>>180167296
she's one of my main heroes and it all kinda came naturally to me. I can see where you're coming from though
>>
>>180167296
I'm pretty sure if you hold down q it fires as fast as it is allowed to.
>>
>>180167562
>male name
>>
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TO

SEE

IF

I

STILL

FEEL
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>tfw went from plat 2 to 5 in 3 hours
i still feel nothing
>>
>>180167973
raiders roll
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>>180168051
>im gay and its blizzards fault
>>
>>180167973
anon pls stop, you should have stop after 2 losses
>>
>>180167973
>QM
>playing assassins
if you want to win QM play a good solo pusher
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>>180165380
"Jeeshying intensifies"
>>
>>180168329
>nipple censored
>armpit not censored
you fucked up
>>
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THIS

LITTLE

LIGHT

OF

MINE
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>when you get put with a 4 man pre-made of russians who type shit in the chat, most likely aimed at you but you will never know
>>
>>180168787
time to man up
>>
>>180168787
what region are you
>>
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>>180168929
>Die
>Suddenly wall of foreign of text pops up
>>
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I'm flamingly homosexual and such about 6 dicks a day. What do you think is the best hero for me?
>>
>>180169590
Genji
>>
>people would rather throw than work together and form a mighty deathball with tlv
>>
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>>180169590
>>
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DON'T

MEAN

A

THING

IF

YOU

AIN'T

GOT

THAT

SWING
>>
>>180164727
Chromie has literally no escapes,just get in her face and CC her to death.
>>
>>180170061
>]
what region are you in? NA or EU
>>
>>180169940
what build do you go
>>
>>180170109
na
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>>180161079
>Support
>Can fucking demolish almost every hero with the right build
>SUPPORT

Why is this allowed?
>>
>>180170505
>no sustain
>can't be healed

>can fucking 1v1 anyone

????
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>>180170306
Whats the right build? Everytime I play him I feel like I do less damage than a minion and my heals do jackshit too.
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>>180169590

Abathur
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THE

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RED
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>>180170852
do you just use all of your bribe stacks on 1 camp or what

teach me your ways
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>>180170797
share your build
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>>180171151
>hivemind
deep tunnel is on a 15 sec CD
which is super fucking stupid on large maps like garden
>>
It's been two months since 2.0 came out and the voice lines are still bugged. I can't change them in the loadout menu and I always hear another hero's voice line if I use it in-game.

It's not like it's a huge deal, but I'm astonished that they don't care about fixing it.
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>>180171394
>unironically using the voice line
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>>180171394
thats honestly hilarious and i'd prefer it to be left alone
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>>180171540
>monstrocity can't do objectives, can't cap anything, or gather anything like orbs, skulls, or seeds.
But it can literally be the only thing to 1v1 malthael in meleewithout malthael scratching it

And it can be the only thing to 5-shot a tower, THEN 1v1 someone/possibly kill the tower while ignoring someone, then proceeding to kill that someone

I'm not saying always go deep tunnel, but on large maps you can make up for aba's weaknesses, like the fact that he cant outsplit azmo, hammer, or sylvan without monstro
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>>180162319

>implying destiny is any more pathetic than normiewatch

fuck off
>>
>queue into a casual QM to relax
>enemy team: valeera and abathur in a party
>teammates get completely annihilated from the start
>they keep whining about an "unbeatable" hatted valeera
>someone leaves mid-game
>they never go as a group and keep getting deleted alone and crying about it
>she has 16 kills by the end of the game, abathur 8

Only the dead know peace from this evil.
>>
Why is Murky so fucking fun and why do i have a 90% win rate with him
>>
>tell dude not to pick nova
>he picks nova
>we lose
>calls me a flamer because I tell him picking nova was throwing the game

4 placement matches, 4 times this happened
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>>180172740
Remember kids, if you lose the actual game, you can always try the blame game.
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>>180172814
>nova picker butthurt
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>>180172814
yes its always anons fault and not his team comprised of innocent dindunuffins
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>>180168012
>Losing streak or some asshole just makes you salty.
>Maybe I should take a break or just qm or unranked.
>Requeue anyway.

I know that feel.
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>>180172740
>ally hovers over nova
>say "no nova pls"
>they hover over valeera
>tell them to pick it
>go any support and make them sanic
>win

Team booga but that don't mean you can't ooga.
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>>180173542
>val
>winning
silver huh
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>>180172934
Never once picked Nova in HL. I lost many games with Nova in my team, though.
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>>180173835
Gold, but that's not much of a difference.
>>
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: June 20, 2017
Malfurion
Valla
Gazlowe
Johanna
Thrall
Dehaka
Kharazim
Tyrael
Zul'jin
Lunara
Rehgar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Chromie (Slot unlocked at Player Level 10)
Tassadar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
D.Va (Slot unlocked at Player Level 20)

Are you ready for the shitty D. Vas?
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>>180174195
I'm ready for shitty all of them.
>>
Was QM MMR reset last week? I've been getting really shitty games lately. Never close ones, just absolute stomps for either side.

I just lost Hanamura with 0-5 core health.
>>
>>180167709
>he doesn't understand dragon culture
>>
>>180174195

Oh good, I've been wanting to try Tyrael
>>
>>180174627
>he
yeah.chrome doesnt
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>>180174195
These got a lot more boring since I got the Mega Bundle.
>>
>>180167709
There are actually some girls with very stereotypically male names
>>
>>180170250
>Chromie gets away with Bye Bye
>comes back while it's on cd
>kill her
Not hard.

>she waits until it's back on cd before coming back
>the xp she denied me is made up for with the rest of her dead teammates
Bye Bye only works against retards who don't know how to play and/or any cc or damage. Hell, a Nova can still burst Chromie down before she gets away.
>>
Illidan can evade Tychu's minigun but not Zagara's hydralisk

explain this to me hotstards
>>
>>180170838
>>180170061
>>180168787
>>180167973
>>180166963
>>180166319
>>180164738
Paki, is that you?

Everybody in /vg/ chat has you on ignore for a good reason. No need to shit up the general with your bronze-level dunning-kruger drama because you alienated everyone in-game.
>>
>>180175184
You can kill the hydralisk but not the bullets.
>>
>>180175116
>comes back while it's on cd
Ummmm...
>>
>>180175116
Bye bye has no cooldown fucko
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>>180162098
We already have Auriel.
>>
Can EU compete with yellows in this game?
>>
>>180177062
have you even been watching
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>>180177572
They won one game, that doesn't tell me anything.
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>>180177642
have you even been watching the entire tournament
>>
>>180142385
>>180159793
Opinions like this make me think he's going to see limited picks with extremely dedicated mains. Hope Blizzard doesn't nerf his shit before everyone decides he's complete garbage and fuck off.
>>
>>180178217

He's a heavily stressed "alright", without his mark he's nothing. He's a complete joke against ranged heroes, and some tanks can just ignore what he's doing and slap his shit in.

I dunno where all this OP talk is coming from, I honestly think he could use a bit of a buff.
>>
>>180174195
Sweet! Wanna finally get some Tyrael and Dva learning in
>>
>>180178470
He's got a higher winrate than Anub that's why
>>
Varian was a mistake
>>
>>180178816
varian sucks
>>
>>180179056

lmao, stfu
>>
Stupid question, but is Leorics W, when active, interrupted by CC?
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>>180179056
>being this jealous of his big human cock
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>>180177795
Yeah, all the NA teams got demolished.
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>the enemy has destroyed a fort
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>>180179123
No.
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>>180179123
No
>>180179290
>human
>big cock
>>
>>180179650
how nu r u
>>
>>180179578
So is there any way to cut it short outside of getting out of range?

Do silences work?
>>
>power goes out
>disconnect from game
>get put in leaver queue
>have to make a new account because i can't get into a game

ty blizzard
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You think Novas in QM couldn't get any dumber, they pick the bribe.
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>>180180194
Jesus, that team.
>>
>>180180249
Yeah me and Zeratul killed the shit out of them while Anub ate Papa Johns.

He feasted well on Cinnamon bread that day.
>>
>the only Tauren ever will be this shitty meme character

Does anyone even like ETC?
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>>180180386
No, he's shit. They could've not melded the whole band into the drummer, then he would've been more likeable.
>>
>>180179926
Stasis effects, shit like caccoon and time trap, outranging him
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>>180180386
>will never get a tauren druid
wouldn't even care if it's an ugly female tauren either
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>>180179871
>yfw
>>
Ah, so EU can't compete against the yellows.
>>
>>180161009

whats wrong with that?
>>
>>180181334
SGT should be on the other side of the map busting down the lane. If no one is attending to a lane then she can just take out the towers and gate pretty early on.
>>
>still no hero that relies on traps and cunning
Abathur and Murky are both eh at it. We need someone like techies.
>>
>>180180386
I'm surprised we haven't gotten Cairne yet. I know the horde is orc centric, but i theres fucking 5* of them.
>>
>>180181567

Baine?
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>>180181702
Hes a big Tauren
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Are the brawls supposed to be fun ever? they're always the worst
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>>180146430
>Zarya, not having fun
Try feel the heat with high energy+shields build. That priceless moment they realize it is over...
>>
>>180181748
For moo
>>
>>180181853
No. That's why they mercifully only make you do 2-3 tops.
>>
>>180181853
I liked the nova one.
>>
>>180181853
Bloodlust brawl was fun.
As long as you randomed illidan, otherwise not so much.
>>
>>180182005
Nova one is pretty cool since you csn just feed to loss in like 3 minutes tops.
>>
>>180181853
I thought the Azmodunk one was fun. I liked seeing orbs flying all over the battlefield.
>>
>pick illidan into 2 tank uther
>take immolation
WHY
>>
>>180182285
no one understand the power of the BATTERED ASSAULT

mfw healing for 400per AA at 16
>>
Is there a discord?
>>
I placed silver 4 and have won like 10 straight and am only silver 1.

There should be a better system. It's not fair stomping these shitters
>>
Comeback imminent.
>>
>blame team
>lose

>accept failures and improve
>win

Wow its that simple isnt it
>>
>lose dragon shire because retard refused to take dragon knight
>>
Is diablo 3 still worth getting these days? I realize it's bit out of place question but the event kinda made me want to play the guys in their main game.
>>
>>180182285

I don't know what's worse, people who copy a build on icy veins talent for talent or people who just randomly pick talents.
>>
>>180183481
It's fun but shallow. Don't bother playing without the expansion, though.
>>
>>180183481
well it's never been worth getting any days, so, no
>>
>>180181853
This Blackheart one is pretty bad.

I like the Nova and Hammer Brawls, along with the Bloodlust bowls.
Punisher Arena is okay too.
>>
i can't stand trikslyr's lisp
>>
>>180182260
That one was particularly terrible due to how long it took to end.
>>
>>180181853
I like this brawl.
>>180183859
Hammer brawl was retarded and autistic just like this general.
>>
>>180183281
It's more like

>team doing something retarded
>instead of doing right thing just go with team

I never lose when people follow my shot calls. I will carry these shitters to plat.

If you want to carry games be a playmaker like stitches or artanis and prey on noob positioning.
>>
>>180184943
This. If you leave it up to your retarded teammates to know what to do youre fucked. Thats why I prefer playing tanks on HL, carrying with anything else is almost impossible.
t. silver to plat through grinding.
>>
>>180181189
have you even been watching this tournament
>>
>able to micro armies of 100+ units in many places at once in rts games
>still can't micro the three vikings
what the fuck is wrong with me
>>
Poison spear is so strong jesus christ
>>
>>180185605
> >1k micro
>gud
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>>180124649
BEST WARCHIEF CONFIRMED NEXT HERO

HELLLLLLLLLLYEAH
>>
>>180186065
Proofs?
>>
>tfw samuro no longer best hero
>>
WEOW LAD A WESTERN GRANDFINAL
WHAT IS GOING ON
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>>180185586
>watching a hots tourney with NO depth to speak of
>supporting bliz esports after the disaster of SC2 and the pathetic attempts at WoW
>supporting brand recognition of industrial bait teams
>supporting streamers and STILL hugboxing the general with g r u b b y
>seeing this game as competitive in ANY sense
Laffin at half this general. Take me back to 2 years ago, zeratool.
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I might have to buy this hero
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>>180186319
Oh no they are going to nerf it because idiots dont know how to play vs him.
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>>180186495
that's all I needed to finish
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>It's Hanamura
>enemy core has 1 hp left and most of their team is dead while 3 of our team is alive but I'm dead
>boss is up
>enemy Medivh with Ley Line Seal is still alive and is hovering above our team
>another teammate literally says "watch out for Medivh, he can steal it"
>team kills boss and then proceeds to stand in a perfect line on the point
>Medivh ley lines everybody and steals the boss
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>>180185405
I also have good success with azmodan because you can follow them around and still push. And nobody picks waveclear or makes smart rotations so he is ez keeps
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>Mfw people realize how easy it is to kill Malthael when you just fight him

NoooOOOOOO just keep running away and let me kill you
>>
when will we get an uncorrupted arthas skin that replaces forstmourne with his hammer and his icy spells with holy light
>>
>>180186675
Crown Prince is as good as you're gonna get.
>>
>>180186495
>hating grubby
why exactly?
>>
>>180186542
She's alright against anything but mages. I don't like her cause she's fragile and requires a smart team to play with you
>>
>>180186832

>URRH DUEHEUGUGGGH RUUGHHH RURHHHH GHHH RUURRRRHGHHHHHHHHHHHHH *looks like a fucking ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyylmao*

look i'm literally fucking grubby
>>
>we get 2 dragons
>don't get single keep
>enemy team gets one at the end kills 1 fort 1 keep and also the core
Why make the first two shit and then the third a fucking god. So dumb.
>>
>been enjoying Malth's subtle strength
>topping every kill chart
>topping every death chart because I'm greedy as fuck
>winning every game so it works out

>suddenly Lunara comes along
>can't hit her with spooky mist, she's 2fast
>can't close distance, she's 2fast
>neither ult would help here
>stutterstepped all day
what the fuck do I do here

>still won because I just stopped fighting Lunara about five minutes in and went to murder the rest of her team

>also, life counters death
>fug
>>
>>180186662
Git gud with your teleports to evade their focus fire
>>
>>180187316
Go speed boost against lunara. Or just kill anyone else.

If you're laning against her then yeah youre a retard
>>
reinhardt:

trait - basic attacks cleave for quarter damage to nearby units. uses shield energy instead of mana, which slowly regens out of combat

q - shields all units in an area behind him, spends shield energy
w - diablo charge but longer distance and is a skillshot. stuns and damages himself if he misses. basically sion ult from lol if you're familiar.
e - flamestrike. pretty standard slow skillshot but also completely ignores shields and armor.
r1 - hammer down, stuns in a cone in front of him
r2 - come out and face me, aoe taunt

r8, h8
>>
>>180187453
Ah, I had taken the enhanced mount speed because the map was warhead junction and fuck travel time I have death to deal.
>>
Who won? dignitas or l5?
>>
>>180187962
dig
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>>180187962
>e-""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""sports""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>
>>180187962
Dig 3-2
Finals is EU vs EU

NA and ASIA BTFO and I love it

>East vs West
>West drafts fucking Nova Azmodan Abathur
>>
this game is amazing lmao
>>
>>180188318
>no fucking healer
>every FUCKING one is dropping like it's QM
What the fuck is happening
>>
This needs to be a brawl.
>>
>>180188373
everyone have x2 damage and speed
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>>180188318
>damage uther
>east level counter stuck at 30
>everyone on east dropping like flies
>>
>Bronztosity
>triple tap, anti-armor shells
They've gone full fucking meme Jesus.
>>
>>180188489
is a +damage game not +healing
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>>180150380
>>180150637
>>180150995

Original Artist here.

Here you go.
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>alarak walks into the mines
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>>180187532
>taunt ult
>>
>huge winstreak
>then lose game due to tanks randomly switching to the worst picks as last 2 picks in draft
Why do people do that. we build around their picks then they go something fucking retarded
>>
jun is a motherfucker lmao
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>>180188696
>TRACER DASHES INTO MINES
>>
This fucking game they're all out of fucks yeesh
>>
>>180188947
is a joke series anon.
>>
>tfw I will never worship Valeera's perfect feet
why
even
live
>>
>>180188973
Yeah, no shit. They're really having fun and ain't tryharding at all, I'm saying I appreciate that.
>>
>>180188981
her feet? wat
>>
>>180127602
Competition is garbage in this game. You can't even main heroes, why even bother? Hots has a lot to learn from League still.
>>
Remember to embrace the edge and have fun.
>>
>>180189134
>malthael is the next valeera

going to nerf it because retards cant deal with him
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>>180188889
Didn't get the original
>>
>>180189280
he gets countered by double support and cc pretty hard

he also has no get out of jail free card like valeera so I doubt there will be as much complaining.
>>
>>180189280

Every webm of Malth doing anything is against a melee target. He's a fucking joke against anyone ranged.
>>
SAMURO HYPE
>>
>>180189462
He's pretty fair as in you're not going to lose as long as he doesn't hit you with his slow ass skillshot or literally walks up to you. No cheap stealth, no dash/teleport on demand.
>>
>>180187316
Don't listen to the movement speed guy. Only use the Wraith Strike talent, Fear the Reaper and Pale Horse are bronzie talents.
>>
>Reach masters with Azmodan 2 seasons in a row
>Always stuck somewhere in tier 2 with a low playrate
>Get unbanned finally after 2 months
>Azmodan tier 1 on robogrub

What happened?
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>>180189462
>>180189541

Got Malth to level 11 now. And yes, he can do some ridiculous shit against multiple high HP melee.

But as you said, any decent ranged and even that Alarak from the webm just stayed back and poked me with lightning after I Coldsteel'd him, I couldn't really do much because he wasn't retarded enough to stand in the slowest skillshot in the game.

It was actually really unfun.
>>
>>180189568
he just has to hit someone near you to get to you though
he's literally forcing you to isolate yourself and that's bad 4 u
>>
>>180189280
>play uther
>stun him for 5 years whenever he presses w

>play auriel
>completely negate both of his heroics, his trait, and his abilities.

>play literally anyone with any kind of cc
>completely remove him from the game

how do people even complain about him when like 75% of the roster can just remove him from the game.
>>
>>180189807
>idiots go full meta heroes
>finish with shitty teams with no wave clear
>azmodan can push all the lines at the same time and they cant deal with it

same with prob
>>
>>180189927
>he;s kuterakky fircubg yiy ti us and that's bad
Yeah, but K'T my dude does the same.
>>
>>180190006
you okay buddy?
did you have a stroke?
>>
>>180190076
Off by a key while typing blind, didn't proof read, I'm sorry you had to look at that. Thanks for the concern though.
>>
>>180189943
You can say the same about Valeera.
>>
>>180189786
Pale Horse is my go-to on Warhead Junction and Cursed Hollow just because giant maps need the speed.
>>
>>180189995
Pretty much this. It's so funny seeing a genji throw his faggy shurikens at my massive creepwave knowing he is powerless to stop me from lasering his buildings
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Ranked man
>>
>absolutely hate fighting Samuro and consider him pure cancer
>have a lot of fun when I'm the one playing him

Guess I'm a hypocrite.
>>
>>180190161
valeera is so easy to play against I just don't get the hate

>look at minimap
>oh look valeera just ganked top, she will be coming mid next, I better play a bit cautiously
>she comes mid
>every single time without fail

it's just too fucking easy, you'd think valeera players would try to switch up their ganking patterns for once.

it's always mid, top, mid, bot, repeat
>>
>>180189786
Yeah let me know how being kited all game goes for you vs all ranged. Bonus points if they go zarya so you can't even get at a tank
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>>180190471
Remember that she was nerfed beacuse of QM.
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>>180189943

It's because he shits all over the current High HP/High Sustain melee heroes like Arthas, Diablo, Rag etc by just running away from them and healing while they die to PERCENT DAMAGE.

He's quite weak against CC and ranged attackers, but he still does decently against mages like KT.

>>180190448

I hate playing against Samuro, but also love playing against him on heroes with tough Hero specific quests like Alarak and Medivh.
>>
is it possible to get past plat with only cheap heroes? (2-4k gold)
>>
>>180189943
How does auriel negate anything of malth? He ults on your heroes then i guess you assume your push stops him from just blinking right back in?

Are you retarded

Stuns are good I guess but he is damage over time so it's not that great. Anubarak is great vs him but he's great vs anyone with cocoon...

The real way to play against malth is to just gang bang him with a bunch of auto attacks or nukes. If he plays like a pussy he cant do much since he can only land his wave attack.
>>
>>180190628

Some cheap heroes like Valla and ETC are some of the best in their respective classes.
>>
>>180190593
That webm prove my point desu he is going to be nerfed because retards keep chasing him and walking in the final curtain.
>>
>>180190562
>Valeerashitter assmad his busted as shit waifu got rightfully shat on
I for one am glad for the nerf, she did sneak into ranked drafts every now and then making me lose valuable MMR with her shittery. Now noone picks her.Friendly Valeeras only though, never really played against her in ranked.
>>
>>180190161
>>180190471
>>180190562

They better buff my wife soon, she's like a flopping useless fish in most scenarios right now
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>>180190593
If that was me I'd make an INSTA bee-line for the coins and die.
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>>180190628
Dorf tank is literally never a bad pick and he's pretty cheap.
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what the hell is juice pirates
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It's raynors time to shine.
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>>180190593
Those are like the 3 worst heroes vs maltheus.

If johanna would have just walked away you would have died but she gave you massive heals.


My question is why the fuck are you even sitting there in the first place since the keep is dead
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>>180190593
>E Ragnaros
>Johanna waddles up so Malth doesn't fucking die ever
Perfect example of morons crying about a hero being broken despite heavily misplaying.
I've played like 10 rounds against Malth's as Dibbles and it's actually kinda easy to deal with him. Don't get close unless you're gonna burst him with a pal, else ONLY peel then immediately get off his back. I mean, if he keeps chasing me to heal, my peel was successful and whoever I've saved is free to shit on Malth while he chases, if he doesn't he can't get close to his target AND he gets no heals from me being a fat meatbag.
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>>180190471
You don't even need to look at the map since she is literally visible on your screen

Anyone who gets killed by valeera is terrible. I don't even think she can solo kill a single hero

Maybe chro
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>>180190448
>vs samuro
>convection stacked before lvl 4
same reason i love playing vs rexxar
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when is blizzard going to admit that raynor is complete shit and is in desperate need of improvement?
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>>180190628
>valla
>malf
>diablo
>anub
>uther
Top tier picks aren't always expensive.
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>>180191058
They just need to increase his range. He's basically a fucking melee hero with no damage. Give him a damage boost for standing in one spot and not moving
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>>180190936
>>180190986

Yeah that's what I said in my post, Malth is a tank/melee destroyer and the only people complaining about him are those.

Also, I wanted to save the Illidan and Stitches I guess? I can't remember.
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>>180191058
>implying Jimmy is bad

He-hey man
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>>180190845
Muradin has the second lowest winrate in the game after Medivh, a character who literally only functions at the acme of his skill cap. Why do people pretend he is in any way an acceptable pick?
He doesn't fucking do anything. He used to, a long long time ago, but why is anyone pretending he still has viability? Ever since his dwarf toss lost Unstoppable he's been slipping further and further. He has one mediocre stun and THAT IS IT.
Diablo and Johanna fucking ruin him in terms of control and survivability. Even ETC who is nowhere near what he used to be still shits all over him in terms of control and interference. Anub'arak, Dehaka, Rexxar, even Stitches is a better main tank because he at least can ruin one target. Muradin can't do ANYTHING except annoy an autoattacker by stunning them and then reducing their attack speed for a couple seconds.
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>>180191256
bot him but i agree. nowadays he only works as a bruiser that can harass backline heroes that cant deal with him. tanking simply isn't his job anymore.
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>>180191256
He has good chase and escape though unlike most tanks
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>>180191256
>second lowest winrate

By this logic, wouldn't Samuro be fucking amazing?

Can't argue with most of your other points though, I guess he's good at bodyblocking since he has a lot of tools for staying alive.
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>>180191487
Yeah, but you can pick fucking Anub instead for that. The only thing Mura has over Anub is, well, nothing.
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>>180191646
But anon, samuro is amazing.
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>>180191521
It's better to hinder a fleeing opponent than having superior chasing ability unless you're a bursty assassin like Valla. But if you want a chase tank, Diablo roars incoherently over the corpses of his enemies.
And his escape sucks (except, admittedly, on smaller maps with many terrain barriers to jump over). It's comparatively very slow and easily interrupted by CC.

>>180191646
Samuro's fine, despite the wild memeing. He's just more of a roaming specialist and skirmisher than a straight assassin. You cannot play Samuro like Zeratul.
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>>180191681
I never argued he was Anub tier, Anub is literally broken, of course no one is on the same league.
I just said he is a solid, safe choice in just about any map.
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>>180191646
If samuro didn't give the enemy team free stacks he'd be way more popular. He's a very well-rounded hero.
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>>180191818
After Anub has been taking a chain of nerfs, and Dehaka's been receiving a chain of buffs, they share about the same league as Johanna, Diablo, and Rexxar. (Rexxar is still played far less, because people hate controlling the weird axe bandit that follows the hero around.)
He's definitely not still in his unique god seat, but he's versatile and rapes mages without remorse.
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>>180192067
>people hate controlling the weird axe bandit that follows the hero around

kek
I love that one tint in which he doesn't even look like an Orc/Ogre, he just looks like a brown dude who wears a mask and throws axes at people.
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>Tracer + Abathur hat
I've witness cancer personified
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Why are you morons ignoring one of muradin's strongest traits... his sustain in lane?
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>>180192764

You haven't witnessed pure Tracer cancer until you've fought Tass+Support+Tracer

Literally unkillable unless they fuck up something awful.
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>Haha swarm is actually the higher winrate because of fucking morons in low level games so cocoon doesn't need a nerf lol xD

every time I check out reddit for news on this game I feel like I need to put my head between my knees
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>>180192863
Cause who gives a bloody fuck about that when his minions get destroyed and he gets forced back because his waveclear is ass?
Oh, he can back off for 20 seconds and be at full HP. Who cares? If you want a lane bully bruiser, get Leoric.
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>>180192863
because there are like 10 better solo laners
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>>180193026
>>180193046
Man you guys are retarded. He works well with someone pushing behind him while he soaks damage. Then he heals and they repeat.

Dumb bronzies kys
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>>180193015
>he sucks himself off when he's depressed
That's an odd coping mechanism, but I'm gonna adopt it. Better than getting angry.
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>>180193141
>muradin is good because with another hero he does what 10 other heroes can do alone
wtf i love muradin now
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>using hotslogs winrates
You guys do realize that you could literally have AIs play each other and you'd get roughly the same Winrate? It's worthless.s
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>>180193141
>He works well with someone pushing behind him while he soaks damage
who the fuck DOESN'T
literally anyone can do this
this is not a quality of a character, this is a quality of the game
that's like saying "he can kill a fort if he has minions and nobody's around"
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>>180193585
>>180193398
You guys are so dumb lol
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>>180192909
That was me in your games last night
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@180193732
i should have known better than to respond to bait
you won't get me again fucko
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Smite should be given vector targeting
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>>180193860
what the fuck is smite
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>>180193521
Like that one guy last thread who camped the enemy core as Leoric?
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>>180193860
Smite should be renamed Judgement, and Judgement be renamed into Smite.

Also, sound design needs to be fired, nothing he does feels like it has impact. Except Judgement, that feels and listens to beautifully.
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>>180193942
Tyreal's E. The brand applied to the ground that speeds up allies. I think.

Vector targeting would make it like Alarak's W or Xul's skeletal mages.
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>>180193860
That would be a lot better but i think only the initial impact should do damage. The vector/pull thing would affect allies (so they dont need to cross it)
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>>180193860
>buffing an already super fucking good hero

why
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>>180194252
what
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>>180194039
Sound design is great, he doesn't do a lot of damage in any single skill except Judgement, so it makes sense that they don't sound dangerous.
>>180194252
If you use basic or hold-to-cast, you can basically place it exactly where you want, but on instant cast it doesn't work quite so well.
Imo there's no need to change how it works.
>>180194364
>buffing
not really, just a qol update with new tech since he has a mostly archaic kit still.
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>>180194364
i wish more of my teammates would pick heroes that actually do things so I could play tyrael

instead they pick faggot characters like guldan or kael that sit around and jerk themselves off over their easily healed through damage
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>>180194516
>literal direct buff is qol

no
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Make a new thread already
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>>180195120
>Early
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>>180195120
Too soon!
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Does this game even use more than one CPU core?
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Is kerrigan good
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>>180194516
qol would be shit like "let me toggle lili's tea to autocast so I don't have to hold Q down all fight", or "let me toggle off spell shield even while the shield is on cooldown"
things that affect the way you play the game but don't affect the actual in-game balance
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>>180195901
she's good against bronzies who try to run away in a straight line and get hit by your WE combo
anyone with enough iq to just walk slightly to the side gets away for free though
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fnatic dropping games as usual
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>>180196148
>implying that loss wasn't planned by giving dignitoss their best map first

4D chess
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Who would win in an armwrestling match? Sonya or Zarya
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>>180191058
*deflects*
*dodges*
*parry*
*protected*

Heh, nothing personal jimmy
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>>180197070
Sonya, probably. D3 heroes are kinda absurd.
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>>180191142
heh as the longest range in the game
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woohoo. our tournament has more viewers than imaqtpie usually gets
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>>180197538
I'm impressed with the viewers of darkest dungeon
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>>180197839
haven't played that game in almost a year. what's going on with it?
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>>180197538
Have hots ever get so much viewers before?
>>180197839
>>180198010

new expansion just got released
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kerrigan seems like a poor mans alarak
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>>180198070
When 2.0 came out we almost topped for a bit.
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>caring about twitch viewers when it's filled with viewbots
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>>180198306
Why can't every game just get a million viewbots then?
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fnatic drop yet another game I'm glad they are forcing bwing solo in the finale
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>>180198306
hey man, i'll have you know that us fanboys use twitch numbers to determine the quality of games. that's why starcraft 2 is a better game than dota
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>>180198472
>what is money
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>>180198221
i mean they share the basic design of "damage spell with a disable attached plus another spell you need to use to combo into it"

but their gameplay is a lot different.
kerrigan has to dive into the enemy team and go ham to get anything done
alarak can just sit in a safe position in the middle of his team and TK enemies to him instead

alarak's combo is also a lot more reliable though. primal grasp is probably too easy to dodge, meanwhile the only way for TK->Discord to miss is Alarak fucking up (or using an ability like Dimensional Shift)
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>start the season 5-17
>now 21-17
phew and here I was almost getting the rope ready
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All right lads about to go to 3 or 4 QM/unranked games then head into HL for my very first time what should I expect lads. I normally play warriors or support like tass khara I only got a few assassins is this all right?
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>>180199336
yes your silver teammates will probably firstpick 3 assassins and you will need to pick tank/support

be aware that not all warriors can solotank and not all supports can soloheal (if you pick Tass you absolutely need a second support)
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>>180199336
Oh don't worry, there'll be an overabundance of assassin pickers, no one is going to deny your support/warrior pick.
On the other hand, you might have trouble getting whichever you didn't pick on your team, too. So get good with Uther since he's kinda both.
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>>180199456
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He's cute. He's tall. He's got gorgeous eyes. And a stunning smile. I didn't say a name, but he popped in your head, didn't he?
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>>180199543
Steal someone else's memes.
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>>180199558
>>180199558
>>180199558
>>180199558
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>>180199558
>>180199558
NEW THREAD
>>180199558
>>180199558
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>>180199890
youre autistic
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>>180199890
>steal someone elses memes
Do you not understand what a meme is? Fucking dip, kill yourself.
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>>180170609
Im quite fond of insight and then most of the deadly reach talents. you'll lave 100% uptime on deadly reach that way
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>>180201560
what league do you play in if your opponents just let you fist them continuously
i can't see how E talents can get you anywhere in a non-AI game
its time to stop
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