/twg/ - Total War General

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHERE IS MY NEW FANTASY GAME?

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Best Elves and Skaven reveals fugging when?

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I am the only one who thinks that Helves looks quite bad? Animations, models, plastic look, weak stats, getting bullied in every CA video?

I really want High Elves to feel like elite units. So far I am not impressed at all. They don't even have a custom unit formations, and imo should.

Bolt thrower animations were also stick as heck

>>180076354
>best elves
Reavealed in a PC gamer interview
>Skaven
Will be revealed when Reddit stops making that shitty joke so never

>>180076402
>custom unit formations
Ya what m8
But yeah wait for release and screenshots here

where did HOLA SKEEENKS meme come from

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Total War: Fantasy China will be the next historical game.

>>180076354

It looks like it's each race gets a month.

May = Lizardmen
June = High Elves
July = Dark Elves
August = Skaven

>>180076589
I wouldn't mind to see Fantasy Historic Total War.

With egyptian anubises, japanese tengus, chinese terracota army, slavic forest monsters.

A mix with normal infrantry + mythical, pure neat. They could also add in roman/greek cultures. ( minotaurs )

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>>180076683

>tfw Total War: Age of Mythology never ever

>>180076589
>>180076683
>grand strategy meets Age of Mythology
Muh dik.

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>>180076683
Total war King Arthur when?

>>180076402
Stats are very likely to change between now and release

>>180076402
>not wanting to see elves being shafted

>>180076769
>Female King
Also wtf wrong with her armour?

Fuck I hate japan so much

>>180076486
He probably means like how Bretonnia got a lance formation.

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>>180076402

Lizardmen are the face of CA's marketing push for Warhammer 2. CA also haven't fully spotlighted the whole race yet, we haven't even seen Tyrion's model.

>weak stats

Nowhere near finalized.

>>180076683
>>180076746
>>180076768
Next fantasy game after warhammer?
I think people would like classic total war armies facing off against mythical creatures

>>180077035

Total War: Harry Potter

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>>180076746
It's the most logical thing to make if they wish to continue doing fantasy after warhammer. Could history fags even be upset about it?

>>180076497
Supposedly from the battle video, but I never heard it.

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ASSININE MORTAL!

>>180076992

I honestly fucking hate High Elves with a passion, mainly due to a select few faggots at my local game club abusing them all through 7th and 8th edition.

That being said, I am still kinda hyped to see what they do with Tyrion and how big of close combat monster he will be.

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>>180077035
total war: Calderon would unironically be awesome.

>>180077104
Depends, are the hoplites using underarm or overarm?

>>180077118
https://youtu.be/i6yZ4aokUic?t=9m21s

>>180075835
Whats a kekistani?

Can you assassinate Attila or does he have to be killed in battle?

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>>180076908
Elves love getting shafted.

>>180077186
>HOLA SKEENKS!

What the fuck did CA mean by this?

>>180077135
Have I finally found a place where people don't shit on Jim Butcher? Tavi OP, nerf Tavi.

>>180077186
wew

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¡HOLA AMIGOS!

¿Cómo va?

>>180077316
who shits on Jim Butcher? I'll fight them
Tavi deserves to be OP, he had a rough childhood

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>>180076402
Helves ARE for bullying

>>180077421
Every time I mention the Dresden Files or Codex Alera as possible game settings people trash them. Did you also work out who he really was like four chapters into the first book?

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>>180077186
Why does the lizard general sound like Khazrak?

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>Lustria and Ulthuan the only places on the WH world not cucked by beast cock.

>>180077186
HOLAA SKEEENKS

>>180076828
>>180076992
Yeah the High Elves in the LIzardman demo battle were tweaked to be foils to showcase the Lizards, not to be competitive.
I wouldn't take it as indicative of how Helves will actually play.

>>180077565
And Dark lands

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>>180077392

>>180077658
True.

Which is weird. I can get why there aren't any in Ulthuan and Lustria. But The Dark Lands is filled with all kinds of weird chaotic shit, so I don't quite get why it isn't teeming with rapegoats.

Is it because no humans?

>>180077534
have you read the first book in his new series? I loved it but it fell prey to the classic Jim Butcher failing of not having any sort of prolonged conclusion and I'm getting sick of waiting so long for the next book.
ya I figured out who tavi was pretty early but it took me forever to guess who fade was for some reason

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>>180076746
>tfw no Total War: Heroes(of might and magic) based on the Heroes III setting

>>180077725

Either they get eaten by Ogres or enslaved by Chaos Dorfs

>>180077565

Beastmemes are the shittiest race in the entire Warhammer world. What have they ever done? Raided some towns, took one of Todbringers eyes and bullied WElves for a while, wow.

>>180077662

Perfect.

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>>180077565
>Nippon beastmen

Oh god

>>180077738
HoMM has lore? I thought it was just a bunch of generic fantasy races on random maps.

>>180077128

Tyrion should be the best melee lord in the game period.

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>>180077565
No beastmen in Khemri either
That's what REAL leadehsip can achieve, looking at you KFC

>>180077738
Unfortunately Ubisoft it too busy, they making another f2p Homm game for chinese market and continue to killing franchise

I wish someone just buy M&M from ubishits

>>180077914
It have very intresting lore, mix of sci fi and fantasy

http://mightandmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

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>>180077738
Finally make CA redo the way city management works and get those comfy HOMM settlements. yes please.

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>>180077908

Imagine how many young Nippon guys get ruined by Beastwomen.

>>180077940

AYO HOL UP

>>180077732
>have you read the first book in his new series?
I'm hesitant to start it out of fear I won't enjoy it.

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>>180077908
truly 2 warpstone bombs weren't enough

>>180077565
I wonder whats going on in Northern wastes, Lands of chill and that south land

Lands of Chill sound pretty cool

>>180077565
>The Land of Chill
DUDE
WEED
LMAO

>>180077563
All the Saurus sound like Beastmen. Honestly just add some Alligator sounds and hisses to the sound mixing and it would be fine.

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>>180077932
>Mounted on a horse
>Best melee lord
No. He's going to be Archeon-tier and suffer from not investing in Monster Riding points while leveling up.

>>180078096
do you not like "steampunk" or is there another reason you think you won't like it?
almost all the characters are great, the setting is interesting and has some cool, somewhat unique stuff to it, and he does naval combat justice with the airships. Gwen is best girl btw

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>>180078212

Naggaroth, the Land of Chill, is a lot like the Dark Elves that live there.

Adorably edgy.

>>180077662
guys wait with memes until game is released, do you want to meme-starve later?

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>>180078212
>>180078261
>>180078315
There's something about elven place names.

Have the Norscan factions always been able to train Chaos Trolls?

>>180078173
Pretty sure it was the 2 warpstone bombs that would cause beastmen to appear.

>>180078054
oh gosh

>>180078597

Yes

>>180078712
Norscans are the gobbos of Chaos?

>>180078476
DUDEEEEEEE

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>>180076589
>China

>>180078712
Thanks, wasn't sure as I've only ever noticed marauder/horse spam.

Kind of thought I might have found something there.

>>180077565
You mean there are no reptilian beastmen in lustria? Hmmm.

>>180076497
>>180078597
Yes why wouldn't they?>>180078826
Thanks I lost this image

>>180078826
>Implying someone going to read all of that

>>180078826
Been to china multiple times and I can confirm that the chinese are to be kept submissive through being alpha, they mistake kindness for weakness and will try to fuck you over

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>>180078076
SO U BE SAYIN

>>180078940

>t.bum blasted chink

>>180079102
*smacks lips*
DAT WE

>>180079205
WUZ

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Men of the Legio I Britannica patrol the northern highlands of the British Isles, the one of the last holdouts of the failing Roman Empire.

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>>180079235
No.

>>180079235
*steals bike*
DAT WE WUZ

Will we see verminlords in warhammer 2?

>>180079507
Yes, but they won't be recruitable without mods just like the greater daemon of tzeentch

>>180079507

too many jabbers m80

Why is Attila's music so good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmSvuQo2C18&index=6

>>180076402
Helves a SHIT
Delves are the true THINKING MAN's race

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>>180079349
KAANGZ!

>>180079507
My mum works at CA, she says Skaven are just a reskinned Empire, so don't expect any new units.

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>>180079559
>tfw you get Hunnic music while playing as the Alans
so much better than generic barbar music

Although This one is also amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBj1GHCOZtg

>>180077908
I'd fuck it.

>>180079981
That one and this are wonderful ambience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLcvjSo1OuM&index=13

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>>180080105

Realistically beastwomen anywhere would something like this, except smaller. Still would?

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Who here ready for the rise of KANGposting once Tomb Kangs get announced as the first race expansion for TWW2?
Start investing now

>Even when poisoned by a spy, Hunnic armies can outrun yours

What fresh hell is this

>>180080196
It depends on the region,
Beastmen resemble different species in the different areas

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>mfw Dark elf repeating crossbow

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>>180080662

>mfw Cold One Knights

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>>180080407
You know nothing, hell is only a word, the reality is much, much worse...

>>180080397

What are some good memes to invest in on the meme market?

>>180080779

>more dinosaurs

nice variety fantastidiots

>>180077186
Ohhhh, I get it, it's from the skinks on the solar engine and they're actually saying "solar skinks".

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Empire 2 with FOTS gun combat when?

>>180076402
Their unit diversity seems pretty shit right now.

What's the fucking point of having both white lions & swordmasters in the same army?

They should have made swordmasters more elite than they were on TT and given them abilities like Wardancers have, but made them a small unit size.

>>180080196
You know.

I'd still do it.

>>180081268
>he doesn't like dinosaurs

Fuck, I'd kill for Franz on a Carnosaur or Thorgrim on an Ancient Stegadon (Throne of Power).

>>180081702
But then they'll be like chosen

>>180082065
whats your point? Chosen are great.

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>>180082161

>>180081268

>dinosaurs on dinosaurs
>lizards on dinosaurs
>elves on dinosaurs

Bravo GamesWorkshop

>>180081268
Dinosaurs are the coolest shit this faggy world ever gave us, fuck off

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>Enemy armies actually go out of their way to attack you even if it's 1 army vs 1 army
I've missed this so much. Don't have to deal with constantly retreating and running away armies like in Warhammer.

>>180081268
Surely it's more realistic if multiple factions use the same mount?
I hate this shit where every faction gets a unique themed mount. I'm looking at you, white lion chariots and demigryphs.

>>180081268
As opposed to what? Horses everywhere?

>>180082818
>he's upset the white lions ride white lions
>he's upset griffons make mule babies in order for the empire to deal with its problems

>>180083078

not that guy but white lion chariots are dumb as shit and only put it for the money grubbing that it brought GW.

>>180082520
What mods
>>18008170
Lions for killing monsters
Swordmasters for infantry
Phoenix guard for beating chosen

>>180081268
They're lizards not dinos

Why do you all like Attila so much?

>>180081982
>Franz (bestial cavalry)
>thungrim (celestial engine)

>>180083150
Explain?
I loved the model
>>180083271
Because it's the best for modding potential
Also fall of the eagles anon shilled lit for people to download his mod which still isn't finished you faggot

>>180083150
Yeah, they should have given lizardmen dinosaur-pulled warcarts.

>>180083314
Because Attila is to Rome2 what Napoleon was to Empire without reducing the scope of the campaign

>>180083271
Meant >>180083314
For this >>180083441

>>180083078
They're named White Lions because they hunt white lions and because the name has associations of bravery and strength. Having them harness white lions in chariots is like if the Knights Panther rode actual panthers. It's just a bit silly.

Demigryphs aren't hybrids, they're a whole different creature. Same argument about them really.

>>180082398
>he's a MP fag

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>>180083538
>can kill a lion with an axe
>can tame a wild lion to go to battle
Why isn't the second one cooler >>180083585

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>>180079507
These dudes? They look a bit too cool, so im guessing not

>>180083441

The whole shtick of White Lions is them hunting them, slaying them and taking their pelt.

Not to mention the mountains of Chrace being a good place for chariots is dumb as well.

>>180083807
Are mountains a good place for lions?

>>180083886

They're white, so of course.

>>180083585
>he doesn't enjoy both parts of the game
Wew
>>180083706
That's what I was thinking

>>180076187
Can you declare as a republic in FOTS coop campaign if it was a head to head?

>>180083706
The original verminlord model is more appropriate desu.

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History and fantasy living in harmony if you do not like dinosaurs there is no hope you for you.

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>>180083706
They should use this old model
>>180083807
>what is going down a hill
>>180083886
You have actually studied the Greeks right

>>180084026
Were the greeks lions?

>>180083807
>how come the Turks were so effective in conquering Anatolia if it's mainly mountainous
>>180084075
That's true, from a certain point of view, and chariots were used before cav became as widespread and hill people do tend to be less advanced than plains people

>>180084026

God no, looks like those fucking awful Minotaur models.

>>180084075
There were european lions in Antiquity.

>>180084180
Yes, but were they in the mountains?

>>180084119

Did the turks use chariots as well?

>>180084207
Greece is mountainous place so yes.

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>>180077127
>level 18
>19 units of chariots

Way better than Archaon desu

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>Rich from CA basically says Empire wont be getting an alternate start or any further content anytime soon. Says it's not part of the core IP.

Apparently the protagonist faction the whole setting essentially revolved around isn't core to the game. They can shit out 2 fucking Vampire Lords but making Marius and Averland playable is just too resource intensive. C'mon son.

Empire got deep dicked.

>earliest faction developed, most conservative design and ugliest artwork
>first lord pack, volkmar suffers from the same tight fisted design that newer lords and race do not
>worst faction gimmick (offices) later re-purposed and done better by wood nazis
>one of the worst lords in the game, only redeemed by his factionwide +10 armor bonus
>non-coopable as no alternate start exists
>fewest lords of the core factions
>missing half of their legendary lords, and several heroes as well as a number of units

>>180084315
So did the romans go all the way to greece just to kill a lion to get its pelt for velites?

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>>180084207
Cats of all shapes and sizes can pretty much be found anywhere. They are a ridiculously successful predator species. Having a kind of fictional lion living in mountains is not exactly the most outrageously unthinkable thing.

>>180084359
Probably killed all of them in gladiatorial games, lions also lived in Caucasus.

>>180084139
The Minotaurs are only bad because of the THICC paintjobs
>>180084359
No because velites wore wolf skins
They're HWITTE LIONS OF CHRACE they are recruited from chracians

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>>180084026
>>180083706

>>180084331
>it's not part of the core IP

Oh but Helman Literally Who Ghorst, Belegar Who-Gives-A-Fuck Hammer and Malagor are perfectly fine? Fuck you CA

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>>180084706
>shitting on belegar
Go away Skaven infiltrator.

>>180084331
I'm more interested in what their core IP is, or what that even means.

>>180084331
How far down the list are we on dev power for warhammer? Like assistant-intern tier?

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>>180082520
>That feel when your generals finally learn from their foes and start riding horses into battle

After a 4 year stalemate we finally exhaust the Sassanid armies and manage to push into Asoristan itself. Feels good man.

>>180083183
>A bunch of minor mods. One of them alters the Roman faction icons.

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M A N N L E T
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>>180085212
>that imminent friendly fire from the artillery

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>>180085321
Nay, it's a well-placed shot into the undead blob. I've been careful with arty fire.

>>180077127
>one unit of demigryphs wreck them all

>>180077127
Is that warhammer at minimum settings?

>>180085932
No, max settings.

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SFO spells hit hard hey

>>180085981
I see.

>>180085631
>pistoliers actually getting kills
What is this sorcery?

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That's a nice framerate you got there. Real nice. Would be a shame of sumfink were to... happen to it.

>>180086029
You do know you use them to make your enemy box in

>>180086006
Wew which spells do that sort of damage?

>>180085073
Pretty much

Besides the animators and 3D modelers, CA are apparently bunch of braindead monkeys

>>180086224
Overcasted Dwellers Below against a big clump of Orcs and Goblins. It's a fun spell.

Are there any SFO patrons here? I'm really curious about his Empire roster expansion, would like some screens.

I've been waiting for Ulric DLC to start my first Empire campaign, but i guess it's not coming, so i'll have to just use SFO.

>>180083973
I do enjoy both parts of the game, but using multiplayer for balance is absolutely retarded.

The game uses asymmetrical balance because each faction is different, but then people complain about balance based on MP despite the fact that quick battle lets you see what faction you're fighting.

The only reason Chosen are shit in MP is because every single time you pick chaos you'll get an enemy army that is specifically designed to deal with loads of armoured heavy infantry, i.e chosen.

Quick battle can never be a way to asses balance because half of it is just about counterpicking the enemy faction.

It's the reason so many players think a lot of dwarf units are UP based on their MP experience, despite the fact that picking dwarfs basically locks you into fighting armoured AP infantry & cavalry vs. most factions.

>>180086029
Steel Faith buffed these guys. They now have around 50 ranged damage, so they actually able to kill shit while skirmishing. It's still nothing fantastic, but at least they are usable. Most of the kills were from helping Reiksguard to kill Direpack ROR and then shooting some skelies before they ran out of bullets. After that, I used them to help kill Mannfred and cycle charge on weak units.

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Orcs and Goblins? Pfft, cool dudes go Squigs and Trolls.

>>180083982
Pls answer

>>180086121
Fuck that map. Not only it's bad on frames, it's also ridiculously boring and pretty much limits your tactics into stupid mosh pits where you can barely manoeuvre.

>>180086529
But also in campaign they never do enough damage compared to their cost, I never said anything about multiplayer dictating single player balance.

>>180086620
I'm actually putting together another army like this. Orc Warboss, 1 Black Orc unit, and the rest are squigs/night gobbo squig riders/trolls/giants.

Works pretty god damn well

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>>180086620
How do trolls reproduce? Are they mushroompeople like the greenskins?

>>180087620
There is female trolls.

>>180087874
Mhm, stellar post my friend.

>>180083538
>>180083150
Tbh, HE raising the cubs of a maneater (elfeater?) they had to put down isn't that far off.
The idiotic part is the chariot Chrace is pretty much all mountains and forest.

>>180076402
...am I looking at balls? I should'nt be the only one who think it looks like a dick

>>180077565
How about the dark lands?

>>180089092
Look at the file name

Do we think we're getting campaign footage next week?

>>180089276
i don't know

So , judging all the cock sucking that CA and youtubers are giving the lizardmen

Im assuming they are gonna be the vampire counts of warhammer 2

Fucking hell
Instead of
>muh abominations
Its gonna be
>muh dinosaurs

gg
Even the fucking stats for lizardmen troops are too good

High elves are absolute trash

>hurr more 50% charge resistance and 12 melee defense

WOOOOOOOOOOOW
YEAH IM SURE THIS WILL SAVE MY ASS FROM 200 ARMOR DINOS AND 500 MELEE DAMAGE LORDS

>>180089750
Is this the new copypasta?

>>180089750
Yeah, HE are really looking overnerfed, they excel at jackshit right now

Even the best sword unit in the lore is nothing to write home about, and im betting that squires will beat their ass
CA really don't know what to do with specialized armies like the elves have

>>180089852
its no pasta

Just look at this faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5ZkByFqag

>When talking about lizardmen
"OH WOW LOOK AT ALL THESE BADASS DINOS AND HOLY SHIT THOSE STATS, THEY ARE ABSOLUTE MONSTERS"
>When talking about High Elves
"Yeah I guess they are alright, whatever"

>>180089852
yes

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>>180089750
I mean
The one gameplay demo we have is Kroq-Gar on Grymloq who is probably more of a monster than Kholek based on what his stats look like facing off against a mid-tier HElf army. Still haven't seen their Phoenixes, Moon Dragon, Star Dragon, or Phoenix Guard.

Still would be nice if they had something on top of Martial Prowess.

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>>180089750
>>180089929

We can only hope Edge Elves will save us.

>>180090223
Look at Swordmaster stats
>36 melee attack
>42 melee defense
>38 melee strength

Absolute shit
Any unit with armor piercing will shit on them
I found martial prowess absolutely underwhelming aswell

And all this without even taking into consideration that HElves units should be more expensive than the average

>>180090223
Tyrion is supposed to smack lizardmemes.

>>180090223
>>180089929
>>180090086
>>180089750
>>180090419
Who cares about any fucking elves, fucking gayass shit twinks and traps.
Fuck off elfags

High Elf stats seemed unfinished. I'd relax... just... relax... hombres

>>180090770
Not an elffag, friend. I just want my prey to be sufficiently challenging. No fun in fish-in-a-barrel scenarios.

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>>180090770
No, we here to stay.

>>180089929
Yep, after I saw stats of guys like Swordmasters of Hoeth, that look to barely different from simple stuff like Greatswords, I got really butthurt.

Gotta wait for Steel Faith for TWW2 I guess.

>>180090223

>Grymloq who is probably more of a monster than Kholek

This pisses me off so much, Chaos is supposed to be expensive as fuck, but their stuff is THE best in their categories.

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>Rats and Reptiles
>Entire roster of animations made from scratch
>Worst/Worst Elves
>Half the stuff is borrowed from the Wood Elves
>Some units even have the same animations as humans
>Only some monsters will have brand new skeletons
>We've already got Eagles and Dragons in Warhammer 1
Knife Ears BTFO

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>>180084331
Source?
Because that sounds like bullshit to me, pic related.

Popularity don't stop CA from deep throating vampires

Despite vampire counts not being even remotely one of the most popular factions in the tabletop and only got more attention on TWW due to all the CA pandering.

Someone on CA must have a giant hard on for vampires, I can't fucking comprehend their obvious favoritism

>>180091005

Fuck off special snowflakes factions are bad.

You don't give a faction the best cavalry, the best infantry, the best monsters and the best artillery and then try to justify it with just m-muh high costs.

No faction should have the best everything, that's retarded design if not dumb fanboyism

>>180091052
DESU skaven and lizards would probably share a lot of skeletons. Cold one mount animations could be reused for DE.

>>180091337
>>180091339
How did you make two posts at the same time

>>180091005
In lore Kroqgar and Grymlock solo delf and chaos armies non stop

>>180091339

Chaos Warriors are supposed to be the best melee fighters aren't they?

Lizardmen have the best melee stats in the game so far, so I can understand chaos frustration

>>180091339
>chosen by the gods
>armoured by the best
>only fault is hellcannon and spells being only range
>the whole of the realm must unite to fight them off
REEEEEEE SIGMARITES OUT

>>180091486
Yeah they don't fucking solo Kholek

In the lore kholek takes down castle walls in 1 hit

>>180091551
This isn't one of your nerd books autismo it's a video game

>>180091486

>In lore

That's irrelevant

>geats land in britain with a full stack and two smaller armies
>move to engage them with one legion
>their main force retreats away from its supporting forces and moves into range of my city which is also garrisoned with a legion
>ai is now outnumbered 3:1

Talk about a fucking blunder

>>180091601
This isn't a just a video game... it's TOTAL WAR

>>180091337
Wait untill we get Krell.

Meanwhile, the Empire, posterboy of the setting still has shitton of units missing, and would probably never be expanded, because who needs to put man hours into making a DLC for a first game in the trilogy. Our best hope is some pre-order bonus for game 3.

>b-but in the lore

>>180091682
yeah i sure hope CA will sell me more shit for factions i already bought

>>180091486
In lore Balthazar Gelt can turn entire armies into golden statues and here we are

>>180091608
>lore
>irrelevant
come one anon

>>180090086
>implying everyone won't be sucking elf cock when the star dragons get revealed

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>>180063665
Like I said I would

>>180091834
lizards are way better

>>180091526

You can take that dumb shit and throw it in a trash bin for all I care. I'm ok with them having the best heavy infantry just not also having them get the best cavalry and the best monsters, that should go to Bretonnia and the Beastmen or Greenskins for example (and hey plenty of beastmen aligned with warriors of chaos, still plenty of room to have the super dangerous end time forces, just not in a single faction).

Concentrating all of that shit in a single faction instead doesn't belong in total war.

>>180091682
>Meanwhile, the Empire, posterboy of the setting still has shitton of units missing, and would probably never be expanded, because who needs to put man hours into making a DLC for a first game in the trilogy. Our best hope is some pre-order bonus for game 3.
Name a few of these oh, so imporrtant units, friend.
t. Marienburg player of 10 years

>>180092463
>posterboy of the setting

Every starter set had different factions inside it, there is no posterboy for WHFB

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I'm about to start my first legendary campaign in Attila, I've decided to play as Aksum

Any tips? I am nervous
I'm unsure about which religion to choose and whether to make war on the Romans or the Sassy Nids

>>180092106
aaaah Rome

>>180092796
Iirc eastern christianity gives you the better units as aksum - you are going to have to declare war on the nids if you want to complete your spice monopoly objective.

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>>180090419
>only lizard inf with armor piercing is temple guard
>temple guard are supposed to be the endgame infantry for lizardmen
>both white lions and swordmasters get armor piercing and anti inf
>only stats that temple guard beat the swordmasters in is HP and melee strength
>swordmasters get anti-inf bonus that more than likely ensures that even if they lose vs temple guard they will more than likely do major damage to the unit

Helf fans confirmed for whiny fags.

>>180092997
Eastern Christianity gives infantry while Semitic paganism gives horses
I think I'll go with Christianity for roleplaying even though I generally prefer cavalry and the minor religion settlement building chain for pagans gives food which seems nice

The spice must flow

>>180093264
What are some legendary lizard lords? I only know about the toad and the dinosaur rider from E3, any other notable ones?
Warhammer 1 wasn't really my thing but when it's cheap-ish I'll try out 2 for the lizards, they seem like a good time

How the hell do you actually play TW: Warhammer?

Like 50 turns into a campaign every single battle devolves into a complete mess of two score units, many with special abilities just whacking into eachother while spells and none sense is filling the air.

I've already put about 30 hours into it but i feel like i'm playing it wrong.

>>180093848
What faction are you playing as?

>>180093264
Have you seen saurus stats?

Those fuckers are better than 90% of same tier units

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>>180093551
Pic related used the power of skink autism to meme a god into existence to the point that the Slann had to acknowledge and legitimize his religion, he's the most likely candidate for DLC since his religion is killing and sacrificing rats.

>>180093848
Is this your first Total War Game?
Not trying to be an ass, just asking.

>>180093985
you don't even know what tier they are going to be in - they could cost as much as chaos warriors for all we know

How do I use champions besides killing these swarms of outriders?

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>>180092106
jutes attack Camulodunum again, but this time there is a legion garrisoned there, led by Sextus "The Barbarian Baby Basher" Perennis, who easily defeats the attackers.

>>180084331
>>180084706
>>180085060
>>180085073
>>180086228
>Believing shit literally pulled out of the arse.

>>180091630
>what is siege of vienna

>>180093962

Currently playing with the dwarves.

>>180094082

Not at all, i've been playing all of them since medieval. My favorite TW so far has been Attilla if that matters.

I like my armies balanced and neat, with swords, spears, lances arches and cavlary but now i am presented with attack helicopters, spinning battle monks, gps guided field artillery, enemy armies made out of 15 chariots and unit counters that make no fucking sense, like the entire "Anti Large" shit has my head in a vice

I feel like i have no idea whatsoever how to build my army in this, except for half of the time when i can just send my commander into the middle of the entire enemy army and watch him destroy a quarter of it on his own before i even have to consider sending my own army in.

>>180095008
>like the entire "Anti Large" shit has my head in a vice

How so?

>>180091682
>artillery
>REIKSGUARDS KNIGHTS
>arch lectors
Got it all faggot, anyway chaos is the poster boy since mid 6th so STFU

>>180092106
Explain how you win

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>>180093551

>>180094989
it's WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

>>180092293
>he doesn't want the hordes of chaos faction
Niqqa
>>180092765
>literally called warhammer
But yeah chaos since 6.5 because it sold the most

>>180095367
Don't try to push it like somehow there's a faction that's always present like the marines for 40k are. If there was something good about FB was that a good variety of factions had a chance to shine in starter sets and the material that came out of them

>>180095008
>anti large
Anything larger than a human is large so all horses monsters and chariots

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Looking for advice on how to fill out Vlads army. With Isa Ive settled on going pretty much all Calvary and flying units(If this is a bad idea let me know.) But with the bonuses Vlad gets im using more standard melee and whatnot. But im not sure what a good comp for him is. So this is what im currently running.

Obviously i will replace the base spearmen but im not sure with what and how much of it. So can anybody give me an idea of where to go with his group? Im used to having ranged/artillery to fill out the ranks so im still kind of bad in how to build a strong vamp army.

>>180095451
>dogos a shit

delet

>>180095549
>greenskins factions three times
Such variety

>>180095614
I've found with VLAD that you can get away with using zombies, skellies, and a couple graveguard. Use Izzie's army as all hammer (cav, dogs and flying shit), and Vlad as a big rotting anvil.

Later on when you've got the cash, add a couple wights, a necromancer, some corpse carts, and vharghulfs/crypt horrors to taste.

It also makes for stupidly fun battles.

I use this formula for all my undead armies and find it far cheaper and indeed better than a single army of turbo hard troops.

>>180095697
Beats having the same faction all the time and then have others repeat too

>>180095008
Not gonna lie; it kinda sounds like you're shitposting.
Anti-large is hardly a new concept neither are special abilities; there are actually less when compared to Atttila.

>>180095587
Ooooooooooooooooh

>>180095614
Only thing vamps get to replace spearmen are blood knights, you'll be using those spearmen for a while until you get the requisite building. Replace the zombies with a varghulf and the two units of crypt ghouls with their bigger brothers the crypt horrors.

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>>180095249
>river crossing
>enemy tries to send 1.5 armies over the same spot
>use steppe archers to kill geoguth javelinmen
>when enemy is commited into melee vs defensive line of legio move my levis into a great position to fire on the enemy blob
>they combine for over 1k kills
>cav sent around from other crossing kills any enemy skirmishers on the other side (also killed their arty at the beginning of the battle since they pulled back from the river to reform w/ their reinforcements)
>legios from other crossing maneuver around enemy's rear, unload their plumbata on them
>enemy routs

>>180089750
Disregarding that it's just shitposting, it seems High Elves and Lizardmen will be the Empire and Dwarfs of Warhammer 2 (not necessarily in that order). The Vampire Counts of Warhammer 2 will likely be Skaven, which is why they're leaving them for last (just as they did with Vampires in Warhammer 1). So, instead of "muh abominations" we will have "muh (hell pit) abominations".

>>180091337
They have one extra legendary lord. This VC favoritism meme is fucking retarded.

>b-but they got blood knights too
Yeah, they also only get two units in Grim&Grave to the Empire's three, and both of them are boring buff carts.

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>>180094601
>that diplo dialogue

Maybe its because you betrayed our alliance by breaking it at literally the first opportunity you could, you greek catamites

>>180096424
sounds like my river crossing battle form last night . except their was no other way to send my cave to the other side. so I just waited until most of the enemy was shaken and charged them in there to break them.

>>180096663
worst Romans not doing so hot

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Fucking gors. This is not a kung-fu movie, you're supposed to occupy the fucking knights so they don't charge my minotaurs. REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>180096628

Vlad
Isabella
Red Duke
Helman

vs

Volkmar

vs

White dwarf
Belegar

vs

Skarsnik
Wurrzag

>t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-there is no favoritism

Suck my balls

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>>180097118
> counting the Red Cuck but not Boris

>>180097118
If you're not including Boris, fuck off with the Red Duke.

Congrats, Vamps have a whole 1 more Lord.

>>180097118
>red duke
Not even playable in campaign, so like Boris Todbringer, who you neglected to list, is irrelevant.

So yeah, one extra legendary lord, which is a really stupid thing to call favoritism on. The Empire got like 5 free wizard heros that all had unique models, but you don't call favoritism for that. Dwarfs are the only base faction with a complete roster, but you don't call favoritism for that. Greenskins are the only ones with 3 start positions but you don't call favoritism for that.

>>180097118
>Red Duke
you can't play as him though. unless you count multiplayer? if so then where is boris?

>>180097118
Red Duke is not playable. Besides, he's just a reskin.

Soon there will be krell ;^D

>>180097395
>Dwarfs are the only base faction with a complete roster, but you don't call favoritism for that.

Don't VC have a complete roster?

>>180097395
Dwarf roster is not complete as they're missing slayer heroes.

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>>180097118
>>180097269
>>180097360
>>180097395
>>180097462
>>180097481
What no one seems to realise is that the Empire and humans in general are more likely to get more shit in WH 2 & WH 3, whereas the vamps might get something like zombie pirates but are unlikely to have much development in 2 or 3 I think.

>KANGZ
not the same thing. Though infinitely better.
I cannot fucking wait for a full WE WUZ campaign.

>>180096970
unfortunately the mod I'm using to change the capital to Rome isn't updated, and has fucked the game up

>slavs/EoS factions out of order
>White Huns never spawned

>>180097269
Boris is bugged to hell

>>180097360

Lets see

Vampire counts got 2 free lords and a free faction by proxy

Dwarfs and Greenskins got one free lord

Empire got mages (who gives a fuck about mages anyway)

>>180097619
Close, but no, heroes/customization aside they are missing

Ethereal Hosts (while technically a swarm, it could work as standard infantry, but ethereal)
Swarm units that are never ever happening
Coven Throne

>>180097725
I'm kind of expecting a large Empire DLC at some point. Possibly in game 3.

It seems like such an obvious money grab that I'd be very surprised if this didn't happen.

Something adding new knightly orders, lords and start positions.

The Empire are not missing a huge amount really in the grand scheme of things, but more characters would be nice.

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>>180097047
>smack a minotaur aside with your shield
>break his fucking neck

Badass.

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>>180097619
Bat swarms, spirit hosts, abyssal terrors, coven thrones from 8ed are not in. None are particularly important but I think the terrors would have been nice and spirit hosts could have been fun for ethereal-based armies.

If you go back to sixth edition you could have stuff like lords/heroes based on any of the six bloodlines, Strigany levies for Strigoi armies, Sylvanian State Troops for Von Carstein armies, and enthralled heroes for Lahmian armies.

>>180097395
Muh Daemonslayer and Dragonslayer. More importantly, MUH THUNDERBARGE.

>>180098125
>Thunderbarge

I really want this.

Dwarfs need more cool units.

As the Empire I most enjoy fighting orcs, it's just a shame that beyond those pricks near Marienburg and Skarsnik (who never really seems to last long) I have to go to the other side of the map to fight them.

I've been trying to work out a general campaign plan that'd give me more orcs to fight.

I guess I could use one of those unlockers and play as Tilea?

>>180097648
You're right, I forgot about those. They are a strange omission given how easy they would be to implement.

>>180098225
They serve no real purpose except being a beatstick which Thanes already do.

Similar to how there is no real purpose in having Mage Lords if you can just level up your caster to have all spells anyway.

>>180097661
You can change the starting capital with a simple file edit as well.

>>180089750
>YEAH IM SURE THIS WILL SAVE MY ASS FROM 200 ARMOR DINOS AND 500 MELEE DAMAGE LORDS
you clearly don't know how stats work if you think it wont save you.

+12 MD is fucking great and makes their basic troops way tankier than most other factions.

Lizardmen stats were mostly shit. All they have over other factions is more WD, but they have fuck all armour piercing apart from temple guard, who have mediocre stats as they're a anti-large unit.

Lizardmen monsters also have way worse melee stats than any other monsters.

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What do?

>>180098639
Accept the winner. He's probably way smarter than the one you had if he actually fucking gambled away his job.

>>180098426
It would be nice if they were specialized in taking out heroes and monsters, while thane being more for rank and file.

>>180098639

Kill the magistrate, he's a dumbass and the new one will know better than to fuck up

>>180098639
nice backgrounds

Do you like breech-loading guns, /twg/?

>>180098820

The winner is probably as drunk as the magistrate

Overturn the bet and kill them both

>>180098639
Do Nothing

You are Emperor not a brothel owner

>>180099156
Yes.

I also like muzzle loaders, and indeed every other type of gun.

Just all of the guns really.

>>180099720

>letting a random guy get the magistrate position because of gambling
>letting your corruption rise 2%

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I need some hot tips on how to legendary Aksum
I'm not doing too great

After waiting one turn in my home province to build troops, swimming over to Hymjar for two turns and taking their settlement I have apparently managed to completely fuck myself

>>180098963
Yeah, but a slayer hero would die rather quickly, no? No armour, no resistance or anything justifiable by the lore....
Imho slayer heroes were really just a carryover from the ealier editions, like the snotling wago.
Don't think I've ever actually seen them used.

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>>180096663
State of the Empire as of the Fall of 402AD

Even though I have had trouble in the north, I am still holding on to the original territories of the Empire. The Celts have been all but destroyed - all that remains is a small horde in Narbonesis. The African tribes (moors, gaetulians, garamantians) have been wiped out.

On the German border, I was able to sen armies north to sack/raze the jute/saxon towns in Frisia - the Saxons are now a horde, although the Jutes will be fine since I can't push all the way to Scandza just yet. The bro-tier Vandals have made it so that I don't have to worry as much about incursions from Germania proper, and are glad that I am shitting on the germans.

There are rebellions all over the fucking place, but I am trying to get things sorted out in all of my various provinces. Honorious now has 2 positive traits: Respectful (+2faction religious infl when governing) and Smooth Talker (+10% to trade tariff income)

>>180100782
>402 AD
>Eastern Empire getting keked to death

>>180100414
I actually could use some advice for Attila in general. Cases like this happen way too often to me

>Make one army at start of the game
>Barely manage to mantain it at the cost of halting all city building
>Risk that city by marching that army out in an attempt to capture a small town
>Can't reduce taxes to compensate with public order because I'll go negative
>Find out the faction could mantain three full stacks with just that tiny ass town
>Either try to fight, get wiped and then get rekt or retreat back to my city and spend the next 30 turns just trying to build up that city so I can mantain or at least improve that stack
>Then go conquer something and find out that tiny one town faction now has two full provinces and is going to roflstomp me if I dare declare war.

>>180100468
Was the slayer conga line from 7th or 8th?

>>180101093
Never saw that either.
Assuming it's meant to maximize the effectiveness of the slayers as tarpits, encirclement worked pretty much the same in both editions, so I doubt It'd do much good in either.

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>>180100782
You are doing pretty good
Praise emperor Honorious

>>180101002
It really just boils down to getting good/ lowering the difficulty and knowing when to pick your battles while using your priests to control PO
Why do you "make one army" name any faction that doesn't start with troops
Of course you are going to be a shitter if you lose all your starting forces and nerd about on a single settlement forever
What's the problem with going negative for a couple turns

This is really a thing that depends on factions, like a ton of Roman towns are straight up unguarded and open for looting early on and like with any Total War game you should take a settlement by turn 2
Your hypothetical scenario isn't a good basis for getting help to be completely honest it would be easier if you had a specific case in mind

>>180101093
I know for sure 8th edition had conga lines (if you were a complete cunt), don't know if Slayers did tho

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>>180100782
After reasserting your authority over your faction and eliminating any remaining threats harassing your borders, invade the ERE and secure their territories for yourself. It's not like they need them or anything

>>180100468
You could give them loads of health

>>180100468
Ungrim has armor, so why wouldn't slayer heroes?

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Well, I just pirated Warhammer today, and surprisingly it was shittier than I expected couldn't stand more than a couple of hours before going back to Attila

>>180102404
I paid money for it but I feel you

>>180102404
I thought it still hasn't been cracked?

>>180102484
yeah, now I'm glad I didn't buy it for 12€
on humble monthly

>>180100468
>Yeah, but a slayer hero would die rather quickly, no?
So what? There are loads of units that die rather quickly in other TW games but are still useful as shit for dealing damage.

A slayer hero would be a glass cannon unit that you have to try very hard to protect but can deal out serious hurt if left largely unmolested. That's exactly how slayers work at the moment.

Also Slayer lords & Heroes were pretty good actually because they got extra bonuses vs. monsters. A Slayer lord could be kitted out with that master rune that gives you more attacks for every attack you land and get something like 8-10 attacks on average which would murder a whole unit and kill some of the tougher monsters in a single round.

The reason they weren't used is because the only unit you could put slayer lords & heroes in were more slayers, who do an awful job of being meat shields, but this is pretty much irrelevant for total war.

>>180102165
Because they go into every batle with the intention to die. Armour is not allowed.

Ungrimm only gets armour because his duties as king take precedence over his slayer oath.

>>180102858
That's what I did, they fucking got me and I regret it

>>180102404
truly tasteless of you

>>180103078
Then make them a Aspiring Champions style unit, not a hero to level up.

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Really summons my elector counts...
But seriously, why are greatswords so shit? Why did CA nerfed them to being trash?

>>180102404
You have less value for things you pirate. You went into the game with negative feelings of worthlessness from the onset, no wonder you didn't have fun.

>>180101462
>>180101716
Slayer conga line was a conga line made up of Dragon and Daemon slayers. This way it was a unit of characters, and characters did not spill wounds to other members of the unit, so even if the enemy dealt 60 wounds in a single round of combat, only one slayer died (since the enemy unit could only allocate wounds to the first slayer in the line and after the model died the rest of the wounds dealt in this combat were lost). As long as the conga line was only engaging one target it could tarpit it for a number of turns equal to its number of models.

>>180103414

That's pretty deep bro, i pirated rome 2 and didn't liked it

Then i bought it and enjoyed it immensely

I tried it with DeI when i pirated it that's why i didn't liked it