Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

>>180036314
On my dick

i changed my mind tyrael is pretty cool
post tyrael builds

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>>180036675
There's only one good one

Swap ults and upgrades depending on your comp, can take burning rage and damage shield if you have good support

How do I play TLV?

>>180037681
Look up videos and learn micro

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>He doesn't First Pick Nova on Ranked

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Reminder that you cannot 1v1 the ogre.

>>180037909
>he doesn't 5th pick nova when his team still has 0 supports

>>180038053
>5th pick
>No supports
That's typically when it's time to go Azmodan or Murky.

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>>180037909
>he doesn't highlight nothing until last pick when they need a tank and instantly pick nova before the timer runs out

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>chaining Calamity kills
>knocking people into orbs with wave of force

I forgot how much fun this bitch is in QM

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Pssh...nothin can stop death...nefalim...

Seriously though, do you think Malth needs nerfed?

>>180039001
>highest win rate

Uh, probably.

>>180039001
How do you change color for teams?

>>180039183
The nigga is color blind.

>>180039001
>extended fight vs melees

he dies to anything ranged
ANYTHING

>>180039001
The amount of healing her can get off of a creep wave or a group of heroes is fucking insane and infuriating to fight against. He has JUST enough health to not die to a moderate amounts of burst, which is then offset within a few seconds from his heal, while hes reapplying his DoT on you, and then its everyone chases after Malth because hes ALMOST dead.
Hes isnt even an assassin, he takes too long to kill anything to be an assassin. But he can also destroy bosses, jungle, heal himself fully off creep waves, and be the strongest counter to tanks, and especially 2 tank comps.
I dont like fighting a good Malth.

>>180039171
>>180039528
>Malthael from worse tychus/lunara to op blizz PLS nerf in not even a week

ebin

>>180039636

I think a lot of people were going MEMEnto Mori early on because DUDE 5% HP PER SECOND and he was trash, then everyone realized that the Q talent is way fucking better and now shit like that webm can happen.

>>180039636
Tychus is worse because he sustain was gimped, he has shit aoe, clear, healing, and durability compared to Malth. Plus, you can pretty easily run away from Tychus. Malth can tag you, run away to juke, then pssssh you 3 seconds later and keep applying his shit to you.
Also, their trait makes up most of their power, but Tychus' trait has a cooldown, uptime, tries to force you to AA to make the most of it, and relies on a quest to extend itself, and even then still has a cooldown.
Lunara doesnt have as much aoe or sustain or durability but she has more speed and burst damage, and is ranged. She is the actual assassin version of Malth. Malth is a super sustainable assassin with the damage of a warrior.

>>180039528
>catch malthael out of position
>gang up on him 5 v 1
>he still shaves half of everyones health
shits scary

>>180039636
>most people and their thoughts/predictions are retarded

dude
whoa

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>valla chest
oh.. ok..

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>>180040464
>reroll
o....k......

>>180039239
For real, Malth is a joke to duel with ranged. Just dodge his one slow wave attack, and he can't get mark on you easily, which means he can't port to you, which means you just kite him and win.

>>180040464
I really wish those character chests guaranteed the item for that character being the one with the highest rarity, regardless of what the actual rarity it spits out.

>>180040624
nice valla voice line you got there senpai

>>180040624
This time say it with me:
SHOO SHOO BLIZZ JEW

>>180040693
this

what's the point of making hero-themed chests anyway?

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>>180034978

>>180040075
>tychus has worse waveclear than malth
???

>>180036675
basically what >>180037543 said

i think the smite speed buff at lvl 4 is noticeable, 135% speed for 3s instead of 125% for 2s but it requires you to understand that smite is more than just a nuke

i prefer exploding shield over zealotry because i'm not sure the 50% extra duration helps

anyone found any nice combinations for the new treasure goblin mount?

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>Genji dashes in and does something retarded
>turn him into a pig before he has a chance to dash away
>teammate slaps his shit

Brightwing is the most fun support.

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Which heroes can go BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLS DEEP? Just ones that can rush into the middle of the fight at an enemy and do damage/toss around CC and not care

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If Medivh got a Summoner skin, what would his bird form be?

Is Tyrande a shit hero?

>>180041793
Muradin, Anub

>Medivh's bird form does not have a /dance

I am legitimately upset by this.

>>180041978
Yes.
It's a shame because her design and her kit are pretty great, it's just her numbers are too fucking low.
Kharazim is a much better support/damage hybrid.

>>180041978
Yeah, they made her worse with the rework. I don't know what the point was behind nerfing an already weak hero though.

>teammate says "gg" after one lost teamfight (not even a wipe, we just backed off after we lost two people while they had everyone up, a fucking rarity in qm)
>proceeds to take dumb as fuck 1v3s
>says "I told you it was gg" after we lose because he straight up would not follow us and instead tried to engage in worthless fights

mother fucker how are people so stupid

>>180034978
how many fucking threads deep are we and it's still "Mathael's Bargin" instead of "Bargain"?

>17 convection stacks
>die
i hate this hero

>>180041793
Muradin.
Anub'arak.
E.T.C..

>>180042343
But when she has 40 stacks of her E quest!

Though no seriously, it does feel like they balanced her around the game going stupidly long and getting 40+ ticks on all of her quest ticks.

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>>180041793
Uther

remove valeera from the game

any murky bros in this thread right now?

I think I've finally gotten the hang of Genji, after 20 games of him and being the least ammount of deaths of my team in all of them.

Genji is fun and owning bitches with him is what good shit is made of.

>>180042343
>>180042806
What are the chances she'll be buffed?

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>>180043721
>removed my favorite bullying target
Nah, you just need to git gud.

>>180044234
Hopefully high. I'm sick of fucktards picking her thinking she's a viable solo support and ruining games.

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>tfw no tyrande gf to sit on my face

>>180044234
She will probably get buffed after blizzard is done being buttravaged about failing so hard with a rework

>>180044239
but how do i outplay getting instagibbed

>>180044614
she cant even insta kill probius dude

>play Malthael
>top hero damage charts
>top kill/takedown charts
>rank highly among siege damage charts
>top death charts
I AM A FESTIVAL OF DEATH

>>180044695
ok how do i outplay getting killed in 2 hits then

>>180044859
More like a clown of death

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>No friends online
>I'll just play some solo QM
>Enemy Zera/Nova every single game
>My teammates free trial of Eyes.exe has expired and they just walk into them 24/7

help

Anyone have a quick walkthrough for Vikings?

>>180045758
put 1 in each lane
have erik in lane with your teammates in it

>>180043219
at least exactly one more

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>play tank
>ping to retreat from a fight where we're obviously outnumbered/losing
>i'm still a healthy tanky tank so I hang around to protect teammates while they retreat
>they take the fact that i'm still next to them as a sign to charge in 3v5

if voice chat existed this wouldn't be a problem

I wish people understood how to draft god damn

>>180045976
>vikings
>laning with team
no

>>180045758
There is no quick walkthrough, learn to play or watch youtube videos or something, no guide will make you suck less shit

>>180046135
Yeah, obviously the way to play Vikings is to have everyone pile into one lane and overwhelm them with sheer numbers.

>>180044935
Git gud at watching for the shimmer.
Knock her out of stealth, she becomes and even more pathetic version of Zeratul than she already was.

>>180041978
>someone first picks tyrande in ranked
>gg

That's how bad she is.

>>180041793
ETC, Guitar Hero > Speed Metal > Hammer-On > whatever > Face Smelt > whatever you need > whatever

go balls deep and actually do a lot of damage

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pls gib Kerrigan builds

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>>180046374
>Git gud at watching for the shimmer.
>Knock her out of stealth
What if I don't have a skill shot

>>180046658
Then stop playing Li Li

>>180046658
Then you're playing Kharazim or Li Li. Get back to your party and heal.

Or Samuro, I guess, but in which case why have you even seen the enemy team? Go get more camps.

>>180046450
Stop posting my edit where ever I go thanks

>blizzard says they are working on fixes for hanamura
>keep it in the rotation anyway
It's like they actually have brain damage

>>180046658
Then go back to your team.

ALL THESE HEROES THAT SHITTERS BITCH ABOUT HAVE THE SAME WEAKNESS! THEY ARE ALL LOOKING FOR YOU TO BE ALONE OR OUT OF POSITION, SO DONT PUSH THE LANE TOO HARD AND BE AROUND YOUR TEAM!.

>>180046946
What if my team is dead

What if Val is teaming up with a Butcher

>>180046783
No.

>>180046034
they wouldn't listen to your girly stuttering voice regardless faggot

>>180047132
>What if my team is dead

Then what the fuck are you doing outside of a gate where they can reach you?

>>180047137
https://youtu.be/yajquwpNaLA?t=12m40s

Is Tassadar's Templar Will build deceptively strong?
+150% AA damage gives him the dps of an assassin, and +1 range on top of +1 inate base range makes him long range not to mention the built-in slow

>Hanamura

why does this map exist?

>>180047467
>Is Tassadar's Templar Will build deceptively strong?
That's the build everyone is using anon.

>>180047550
To trigger your girlish emotions.

>>180047550
I hate Hanamura
I hate these god damn garden maps
I HATE FIGHTING THE ARCH ANGLE

>In draft
>Just as the game's about to start get dc'd from b.net for 2 seconds for no fucking reason
>immediately get leaver status even though i'm leve 852 and have never once left a match
wew lads

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>>180047132
Then you're likely overextended.

>butcher
See above. Back the fuck up.

>>180047550
>it's still in rotation
who knows
even ribbit doesn't like it

Abathur buffs when?

>>180047659
The only thing I don't like about hanamura is when you win a teamfight and all the forts are down you can't even fucking do anything. The boss shouldn't suck your teammates in because it makes winning a teamfight with only killing 2 people even if you go for boss. The whole map is terrible

>>180041978
in the hand of a shit player, sure

- map vision
- W can finish stragglers and squishies
- E + hunter's mark secures kills effortlessly
- varied talent tree paths possible
- can counter spell damage burst or stuns with Q
- good self-sustain
- above average damage

fits almost every team comp, let alone 4-man gank squads

Any time I queue with Falstad I always get both the worst teammates and the worst matchups.

Ree.

>>180047659
>2% of the people who voted in this poll are so retarded they love Hanamura.
These are the people Hitler should have gassed, not the jews.

>>180046718
Hell, Lili's Blinding Wind knocks her out of stealth AND makes her completely useless.
It is dangerous against a truly good Valeera, but I've yet to come across one of those.

>>180048517
>Hell, Lili's Blinding Wind knocks her out of stealth
Li Li cannot activate her abilities unless enemies are in range and targetable. She cannot knock enemies out of stealth.

So, is there like a trick to playing Cassia well? Playing her like other ranged assassins seems to get me killed and not much more.

>>180047467
>deceptively
it's a total of 2.5x damage

>>180048687
If she's in the jungle, sure. But if she's in a lane, she can get next to Valeera and be close enough to some minions for it to let her activate it.
It's all about positioning.

>>180048730
Use Fend not to engage, but to capture a fleeing opponent.
In fact, just remember that you're not the engager. Just Q at them and whittle with autos, back away when they attack at you.

>>180039528
Malthael is dirt tier. The instant people realize he melts faster than Zeratul to focused dps his winrate is going to be in the single digits.

>>180049239
what quest do you take?

Holy shit ranked is abysmal. Why do I keep getting fucking teamed up with people who don't talk, or if they do talk they talk in broken fucking third world English. It's literally impossible to win a game.

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>>180047197
what if im actually a cute 2d anime girl irl

>>180047467
>deceptively
it's obviously strong
blizzard doesn't understand the concept of "talents should be balanced with others on the same tier", and so templar's will is significantly better than the other level 1 talents and Khala's 90%lifesteal Embrace is a billion times better than the other level 4 options

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>>180049710
that's even gayer

>>180049447
you don't take the quests, you take charged strikes

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>>180049920
yuri is not gay
the real fags are the heteros

What's the best chemo for stealth cancerlords in Quickmeme?

>>180050339
tassadar?

>>180050339
tassadar
almost impossible to gank if you're not retarded
15s cd reveal

>>180050339
Anyone with Scouting Drone
Tassadar
Murky

>>180048730
She's a more mobile siege tank with retardedly huge range on her Q, and she has a gap closer to finish. Also use her blind.

>>180050339
cho'gall

>>180048730
her trait gives you 65% damage reduction vs enemy autoattacks, but only while you're moving, so learn to stutter step

plate of the whale quest is shit, never take it

blind is awesome, but it only lasts 2s on a 15s cd, so make sure you land it on their autoattackers when it counts

charged strikes boosts your auto attacks by 20% and lets them bounce from minions/monsters/heroes to other nearby heroes
it has 40% uptime, so try to always activate it unless a teamfight is going to happen within the next 20-30s

after getting ring of the leech and impale, if you and an enemy is low, turn around and use blind+fend together to heal yourself for a lot

>>180049239
Ugh, this was useless. I feel completely useless. I died a million times. Thanks for the advice, but I just don't get this character.

I seem to be made of wet paper and melt faster than any assassin short of like, Nova.

>>180051537
Don't get into her short autoattack range unless you're preparing to engage. Poke with her Q (it has a fucking stupid short cooldown) for huge damage repeatedly. Most fail Cassias try to get in range to deal her (admittedly fantastic) auto attack damage without realizing that if she gets engaged on by 80% of the cast even 1v1, she's going to get assraped.

She is not a ranged assassin in the way Raynor or anyone like that is. She's almost more of a mage who converts to a close combat specialist when it's time to secure a kill, relying on her trait to basically nullify auto attack pokes from anyone that tries to get close enough while you're smashing their face with Q.

>>180048730
ring of the leech lifesteal works from all abilities not just autoattacks
blind + fend on a minion wave will heal you for about half your max hp

>>180049816
i'm still trying to wrap my head around the level 4 talents
because 20% movespeed or 15% armor both sound good and 45% lifesteal of base shield sounds like it should be enough
i just have a hard time evaluating how much impact the lifesteal gives in a real game

>>180051948
If 45% is "enough" then 90% is balls out insane.

20% movespeed is fine but movespeed is overrated as fuck unless it's for a team ala negrobard. 15% armor isn't shit compared to lifesteal sustain. Problem is you need people who are going to take advantage of it, and you need a team where the people relying on your shields are capable of actually making use of the lifesteal.

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How do you pronounce:

Xul
Tyrael
Malthael
Medivh

?

>>180052428
>Xul
Zool
>Tyreal
Tir ee ahl
>Malthael
gar baj
>Medivh
YOU HAD TWENTY NINE STACKS YOU STUPID CUNT WHAT THE FUCK WHY

>>180052428
>ECKS-ULLL
>TIE-RAI-ELLE
>MAL-THEEL
>MEED-IVE

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>>180052573

>>180051723
Oh, Q deals good damage? I guess that makes sense. I might give her another shot.

>>180051807
Makes sense, but mid team fight, I seem super vulnerable to burst and CC.

>>180041793
Butcher, Sonya, Diablo at least in QM

Was there a reason why Frozen Gravewarden Malthael was 600 shards when the other colors were 150? Doesn't look special compared to the others.

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good box desu. very worth the 250 gold for a reroll

>>180050339
see: >>180050921

Most if not all stealth assassin heroes have no giant killer talents. They literally cannot do anything but CC him.

>>180052692
real answers

>Malthael
Mahl-thah-yel
>Medivh
Meh-deev

>>180053308
Probably the best roll I've ever seen. Congrats!

>>180052428
Zul
Tier-ee-ell (you can hear it in-game easily by other character's dialogue, they love addressing him by name)
Mal-thay-ell (go through Auriel's dialogue and she says his name directly)
Meh-deev

>play AI 99% of the time
>only play QM or unranked draft when drunk and the brain says FUCK IT, JUST DO IT
>lose every game except
>100% winrate as Muradin
What the fuck.

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>>180053790
>play AI 99% of the time

>>180054228
I'm flat out not good enough to play ranked. I stress out too much about fucking up and failing a team to play with others vs other players, outside of brawls because who gives a fuck about that. The anxiety gets to me.

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>Traveling to Hanamura!

>>180053790
>>180054317
>playing vs AI
>complain about losing in QM
Just play fucking QM.
(a) QM winrate matters jackshit
(b) The more you play against bots, the more you play LIKE a bot and never get better
(c) You get more exp for losing in QM than winning in vs AI.

There is zero fucking reason to play vs AI after you're done the tutorials.

>>180054317
Then don't play ranked. Go play QM, nobody cares what happens in QM.

>>180054317
Play QM then? Also learn to stand up for yourself. People who are BLATANTLY WRONG will chew you out for dong the right thing. It's kind of unavoidable because Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Just mute people who start flaming or getting passive-aggressive, and don't respond to them.

>>180053474
also gall has scouting-drone-but-better baseline from level 1 without even having to spend a talent on it

>>180054458
>>180054484
I'll give it a try. Thanks anons.

>>180054317
Just relax and queue up. Disable allied chat if you ned to.

>I'm flat out not good enough to play ranked.
Don't worry about it. Play the game.

>>180052428
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0JxhFErLpS8

If you go taunt on Varian, then you're guaranteed to lose.

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>>180054524
You're welcome. I believe in you. Now believe in yourself.

>>180053581
It's actually pronounced Meh-DEEEEV

>>180054504
That's also true. Only better way to kill Valeera than hitting her out of stealth is making her stealth completely meaningless around objectives and while laning.

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What's it gonna be, lads?

>>180054947
Dr. Boom

>>180054947
Two saddled horses.

>>180054947
Cheese Pizza

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Post silly WebM's, please.

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>>180054984
>>180055186
>>180055226
Atleast the Dehaka skin is cool, even if I don't play him.

>>180055343
>Murky Announcer
Lucky fucking bastard.

>>180054782
I've played pretty much every to level 5, some up to 12+. Based on drunken winrates, Muradin and Anub by far seem to be my best characters despite me feeling like I'm the fucking worst as a tank. I always thought I was doing best as assassin or specialist, but.

What are some of the better blindpick assassins, supports, or specialists in case I run unranked draft and warrior(s) get picked ahead of my turn?

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>>180039001
>>180039171
>Tfw autistically grinded Malthael to 10 on the first day and everyone thought he was shit even when I said otherwise

Anyway post your most played with people.

>be ranked
>pick auriel
>someone says he wants to play cho'gall and we'll win cause he has over 600 games with the hero
>picks him
>they dive constantly, run into 4 people all the time
>do all I can to keep this dumbfuck alive constant healing, chaining people to walls
>they do fuck all regardless
>gall reveals as we're losing, half his keyboard doesn't work

It's my fault though right. All the start of my calibration I've seen gold 2's and 3's, now I'm seeing silver borders, fuck this shit man.

>>180040918
but snipe master is shit you should take on in the chamber
initiate out of stealth with W, auto, use E, auto, Q them, auto for 3000~ instead of snipe masters 1800~ish

>>180055776
Don't respond to retards using the shiny brain template.

They're retards and their opinions are always shit.
It's no different from DBZ power level threads where somebody goes "My favourite console = My favourite DBZ character, your favourite console = the DBZ character I hate".

>>180055920
Playstation is Krillin?

>>180055751
>silver-gold
Stop playing Support.

>i wanna
Then at the very least try Rehgar.

Like, Auriel is fine. Great, even, but almost requires another useful player on the team.

>>180055629
Assassin- Valla, Greymane
Support- Uther is almost always a safe pick. Auriel is bordeline broken with a decent guldan/valla/Cho'Gall
Specialist-Nazeebo

who has the most impactful trait in the game? my vote goes to zagara's creep

>>180056343
Thanks anon. I feel semi confident about all of those except Greymane, whom I feel like I just don't quite Get yet.

>>180056424
alarak because its a second heroic

>>180055629
"specialist" is not a role you need on every game. unless your other teammates' heroes have absolutely no siege/pve damage you can always pick a third assassin or a second warrior/support

>>180056424
Butcher's meat quest. Once it's complete, he jumps from an annoying combatant to a berserking death machine.

>>180055776
oitc is better for getting solokills
snipe master is good if you're against a team that you can't try that against and you just spend most of your time standing behind your tank and poking and pretending to be a non-invis ranged assassin

>>180056424
Malfurion.
Any caster with halved cooldowns for 3 seconds is a fuckin bitch

>>180056424
>>180056560
Wouldn't Butcher's trait be the most impactful then?

+225 ATK and +25% ASPD is pretty impactful.

>>180056560
alarak's trait is just
>you do half damage to non-heroes
well there's also the power-from-takedowns thing now, he didn't even have that on launch

Brightwing is probably somewhere up there since literally all of her healing comes from it.

>>180056743
There is zero reason to never get One In The Chamber. You're not some Multishot spewing Valla, you're a Nova so fuck off with any notion that you're not a burst mage.

>>180056886
Anon.
OITC procs off of using your E, which has a talent for halfed cooldown and your W which has a talent to let you use it twice aswell as a talent to increase all damage including your +80% auto attacks by 25%
You don't have to just use Q. You have as much range as Raynor, More with the level one W talent.

can artanis prism interrupt azmodan's lazer? if not, how do I win 1v1 vs him

>>180055776
I reverse the order of E and Q there, to hopefully kill with my Q and if not, my E will appear generally by the time they're ready to react and sling skillshots.
I always place it between line of effect between me and them, that is.

>>180056440

Poke with autos and cocktail, go worgen when someone is low. It does take some time and game sense to know when to go for the kill with him.

>>180057101
The best feeling in the world is having rewind and using it to drop two clones on someone so they freak the fuck out and waste all their cooldowns, then just autoing them to death

>have first pick in hero draft
>they bitch that it doesn't fit the team

>>180057338
i really hate being first pick

>>180057531
On one hand, you get to pick whatever you want. On the other hand, you have to rely on the rest of the retards on your team to fill the gaps.
And the enemy has every opportunity to counter pick you.

I saw the literal, actual worst play I've ever seen my in my 360 levels of hots, would you like to know what it is? Try and fill in the blanks yourself

Medivh used his polybomb on a fucking nova decoy that was completely isolated while he was at full health

Like at least diving 1v5 is like, MAYBE something incredible will happen, but this was just, like how low of a level can one person operate on?

>>180057727
If that's the worst play you've seen in this game you haven't seen shit yet

>>180057727
It's not like polybomb has an oppressively long cooldown. If that was the real Nova, then he spares himself some pain and having to retreat. And "hurp durp nova done tricked me" is hardly something to rage over.

>>180056886
my point is that there are games where you cannot safely USE the damage from oitc and you NEED to go with the weaker but safer option

>>180057097
blade dash can cancel the laser
you can't dash out of laser range while you're in melee range of azmo though, you need a little more distance first

>>180058281
If you can safely land consecutive Snipes without ever missing, then you can take advantage of One In The Chamber.

Zero reason to take anything else.

>Hammer
>Morales
>Abathur
>Tracer
>Artanis
vs
>Anub
>Arthas
>LiLi
>Kael
>Rag

Guess who wins.

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>lose game because our pick/ban person didn't first ban anub, so enemy first picks anub

hey just wondering but who the fuck thought this was okay?

No it's fine just give them the character that makes every teamfight a 4v5 and also has the best fucking cc in the game

in draft:
>"it's my promotion game, please don't suck"
>proceeds to be the worst player in the team
yeah you're staying gold for a reason

>>180059082
>hey guys its my promo :PP

Fuckin' brilliant, mate. Expect you to start turning sour the moment we lose the first objective.

why do people do this lmao

>>180058920
Just give us a screenshot of the loading screen.

>>180058475
what?
snipe requires you to be in max snipe range for 0.1 second while standing far behind your tank
one in the chamber requires you to stay in autoattack range for a much longer amount of time

>TLV on sale now
>Morales next week

it's like they're choosing the shittiest heroes they can

put gul'dan on sale you fucks

>>180059846
>>180058475
>>180058281
>>180056886
Only scrubs use One in the Chamber.

>>180048218
That's me with any hero that can't/is slow getting camps and/or soloing lanes.

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>Do Brawl
>Pick hero
>Game bugs out
>Can't use spells
>Can't type because it changes the names


Every time I do brawl the game always glitches.

>get platinum last season
>lose pretty much every game I play
>get gold this season
>lose pretty much every game I play
Thanks for the swell picks, everyone.

>>180061754
>not getting gud

>>180061841
I am gud, my teams just don't know how to play. Ever. Not even joking. It's always one moron fucking it up, and that's why these kind of games suck.

>>180061754
play more
git gudder

>>180061960
>plat
>gud
nigga

learn to play relative to your team

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>>180061603
>you will never own an otter
why live?

>>180056109

Auriel is so much fun when she works though.

Who's a good "fuck my team" hero besides Azmo? Cause he's boring as shit.

>>180061841
>>180062014

What're some git gud tips?

>>180062332
Samuro is a great afk specialist, especially since Blackheart's Bay is in the rotation.

>>180062332
Sonya, Gazlowe, Zagara(Nydus), Samuro, Varian (Twin Bronze), Dehaka

Keep in mind it's usually best to occasionally group for an objective, boss or whatever. Also; don't die when splitting. Makes the trade not worth unless it's an early game keep and your death won't cost the upcoming objective (bosses included).

if you want out of low mmr the tldr is eat structures, which E build Azmodan is excellent at

>>180057136
You also need to know how to stutter step.

>>180062515
>>180062928

Is there like a playlist of someone clawing out of bronze into diamond or something?

>>180062014
>plat
>gud
>nigga
Fuck off with your meme. There are 5 ranks, and plat is second from the top. Objectively, anyone who makes Plat knows how to play the game. Anyone who makes Gold at least has a basic understanding. That's like saying 80% is bad fucking odds. Bullshit. Not everyone has to be Master to know what the fuck they're doing or how to play well.

When are they deleting hanamura holy shit

>>180063145
>meme

It's almost like you're suggesting there are semi-competent individuals below high Diamond/Masters.

>plat
>knows how to play th-
lol
no

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That feel when a game goes surprisingly well

>>180063338
>It's almost like you're suggesting there are semi-competent individuals below high Diamond/Masters.
I am suggesting that, because it's true. One person can not dictate a match, so it's as much a dice roll as it is competence. People complain about being stuck in bronze in both this game and Overwatch, and the truth is that in solo queue, team games, you're going to get the short end of the stick more often than not.

>>180063446
Bronze is a poor example, It is entirely possible to be stuck in gold or plat because of your teams, but bronze and to an extent silver can be won by a single person in most games.

>>180063446
Sure, if you're only playing a few games.

>I'm stuck at low mmr after hundreds of matches because unlucky with teammates
Extremely statistically unlikely.

>>180062928
E Azmodan is bronze tier unless it's Hanamura

>>180063581
Yeah, I've found it falls off somewhere between plat and dia.

>>180063356
Nice.

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Does anyone know how to build Kerrigan?

>>180063810
aaaaaaaaay lmao

>Spend 4500 gold rerolling the epic chest because fuck if I'm going to settle for Oni Genji after 15 diablo hero games
>Get Tassadar

whoops

>>180041254
It's the CDR you take it for the synergy with the heal and that's pretty much it.

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>>180063810
right generally, left for infernal shrines or in 0support qm games for more sustain

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What's this thing above Nazeebos head mean?

>>180064603
Why don't you mouse over it?

>>180064603
SO GOES THE CHAIN OF ASCENSION

>>180064603
enemy alarak is a doofus and messed up his rak'shir

>>180064656
The game ended.

I mean the one over the model, not the corner.

>>180064738
Why don't you try it in try mode?

>>180064603
Alarak's mark. Every time he damages you, he gets sadism.

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>>180064792
Are you retarded?
How would my ass entering try mode tell me that that's Alarak's mark?

>>180064603
>43 stacks at 15 minutes

what were you doing nigga?

>>180065046
It wasn't me, my buddy asked me what the symbol his head was and sent me the screenshot.
I was Valla.

>>180064247
Thanks, man.

whats best tychus build?

What would they do for a legendary Malthael skin? Hard to do the whole make an evil character look good / reverse since he already looks like that.

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>hl
>teammate hovers rehgar
>in the last second he picks lili cuz muh blinds
>lose
Really makes me think

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>>180066249
Marrowgar skin.

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*floats at you kinda slowly*

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>>180066487
*blocks ur path*

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>>180066487
>my carry's face when

>>180066487
>stand behind my gate
>it detonates
>I'm outside the indicator
>take damage anyways

clarity

>>180037935
because it'll always be a 2v1

Is following the build guides on tentonhammer for first time playing a hero ok?

You guys have the worst community for ranked gameplay, sincerely /d2g/.

>>180067038
Ranked is shit in every game, quit fooling yourself.

>>180067038
no way my dude, out of over 2 years of playing I can remember 1 single instance of having a russian griefer who would run into enemy towers all game long on my team

in dota, that was just a weekend

>>180067038
Agreed.

t. lolbab

>>180066580
>playing valla

>>180067038
mmr? I think it honestly depends on the bracket for both.

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Daily reminder that Laura Bailey is CUTE

What's with all these retarded quests that you have to play with friends. I don't have any friends to play with and the total lack of social features in the game

>>180069760
It's because Blizz wants to recruit you new people you fucking neet. This game isn't for autismos, it's for normies and you've been latching onto it like some disgusting leech.
This is OUR game, not yours, so fuck off and get a life.

>>180069760
So just play with randoms from general chat. It's not like you have to know someone to friend them. My friends list is 200 people long and I don't play with any of them outside of events, or know their names, or anything. I probably haven't played more than 10 games with any of them.
The "friend" feature is just the "give me your XP, parasite" feature.

Ways to deal with blademaster? Illusions are kind of a shit to deal with.

>>180070207
Alarak, K'T
FREE quest stacks lmao

Falstad is perfect if you have eyes and can see him before he sneaks up on you and drops those clones all around you, you outduel him hard as long as he doesn't get the first hit in.

Just how important is completing The Master's Touch?
75 extra damage doesn't sound like a lot in a game where characters have literally thousands of HP

>>180070323
its not about the damage its about the cdr
it basically replaces your basic attack

>>180070283
F R E E quest stacks is actually a pretty good point, thanks, I was tazdingoing hard
basically whenever we fought I won if I had ult and he won if I didn't

>>180070207
get better at micro watching him right after he splits.
Most of the time he walks away for a tiny moment while his illusions go straight for you or some other target.

>>180070420
I noticed a little of this, yeah. He can't control them at all?

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so hol up

hol up

you finna tellin me that you can just move your camera around the map to possess people as abathur?

>>180070323
It reduces your CD from 2s on hit to 1s on hit.
It essentially more than doubles your DPS as long as you hit every single one.

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>reworked
>winrate goes down even lower to 45%

explain

>>180070450
Only with Illusion Master, but that slight delay will always be there.

>>180070323

Completing the Master's Touch makes Medivh into a viable sustained damage dealer, but it's a fucking trap. Just take one of his other damage talents (either explosive Force of Will or the other Arcane Rift thing that isn't stapled to an idiotic quest).

Master's Touch is so winmore and worthless.

>>180070450
Illusions attack the target Samuro attacks.
If he doesnt attack they go into minion ai moving to the nearest lane and attacking the closest target.

Illusion Master allows him to directly control his Illusions but you are more likely to find a great Lost Vikings player than someone who can micro the Illusions to full effect.

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>>180070323
>when you die with 20+ stacks

>>180070639
>be niche pick since warrior buffs and EQ nerfs
rework shifts his power level from early to late.
rework requires thrall to poke wave instead of hero.
its a rework so every retards plays him in bad comps.

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why don't they play me anon?

>>180071146
Because you're my wife.

>>180071146
Jaina doesn't really do anything that other mages can't do better.
Chromie has the high damage skillshot and severe slowing parts down. Kael'thas brings a stun and better guaranteed damage.
And in general I wouldn't say we're in a mage meta at all, more of a bruiser meta where mages don't thrive.

how can tassadar transform into an archon temporarily

this requires the fusion of 2 templars and is permanent in starcraft lore

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Just unlocked these magnificent bastards from a level up box.
How do I git gud with them?

>>180071879
Technology wasn't there yet when he was released, and you can't change it now.
Just suck it up, bitchboy, and keep turreting their tanks.

>QM ques you with a complete garbage player
>orders people around and blames them whenever losing
>feeds like a buffet
>next match get matched against him
>completely shit on him all game

Is there anything more satisfying?

How do those emote clouds look in-game? Haven't seen a single one, and can't test them out. Considering the red when their prices get made saner.

>>180071926
get used to cycling fast (double tap 1/2/3 or hold #+space) between them to keep them safe and pick up globes
don't pick them into a bucketload of counters like globals/stealth
baelog has the highest waveclear
the only ult is play again
be mentally prepared for your team to die and squander off any exp advantage you gained them

>>180071926
MAP AWARENESS MAP AWARENESS MAP AWARENESS
A good Vikings splits them into three, one on each lane. (If it's a two lane map, it's Olaf in one and Baelog/Erik in the other)
Your primary job is to soak exp and let your teammates roam like bloodhounds, because they can bully any lane they so desire, without losing out on XP momentum. In fact, in getting kills, they gain the precious momentum that allows them to get more kills.
Do not let your Vikings skirmish with the assassins who will kill them in three hits! Back away! Keep an eye on the minimap! You're not one hero, you're in three places at once!
Point out when an enemy is pressing in on a lane--since you're managing all 3 lanes, it's a good time for your deathball allies to get an easy gank and build momentum for your murder fiesta.
Don't overextend with your vikings--getting the globes is nice, but don't die to do it.
Jesus fucking christ stay away from the Butcher, he wants to eat every viking and get all that meat.

Playing TLV isn't as difficult as it seems at first glance. But you must not think of them like any other hero, you have to be in a more RTS mindset.

>>180072476
i've had trouble dealing with vikings as nova in QM and even if I manage to kill one, it seems I've wasted my time and mana for 0.25 kill

10 bribe stacks per viking is juicy but that's about it

>>180072385
I saw a muradin with one and it looked completely shit. They're inferior to the plain clouds in every way.

>>180072561
Just kill one and move on, you've successfully emptied one of their lanes and therefore have reduced TLV's contribution to his team (XP channel) by 33%.
Go kill another and hey, you've reduced his value even further.
Don't stick around soaking the lane yourself, goof. Nova doesn't do that.

>Kerrigan is good now
what happened?

>>180072726
Kerrigan's never been bad per se it's just that she's a one trick pony.
I mean, it's a damn good trick, it kills squishies, it isolates bulkies, it punishes anyone out of position, etc. but it is still only one trick.

>>180072726
what happened was you were mislead. she's not good. shes a pick that works on infernal shrines. but then again that gimmick is worse than flat out picking guldan kt and arthas.
she's pretty average bordering on not good.

>>180071926
Put people in bushes, soak exp, hope your team runs around as a 4-man hit squad. You have to manage 3 bodies but in return you've got an astounding 2 ability buttons to press and half the time you're just leaving them AFK.

Depending on the patch they've been broken to shit, but their core design has always been garbage. I hope the rumors of their rework is true, because their playstyle is a relic of when hots was a trash-tier moba.

>>180073016
>when hots was a trash-tier moba.
still is

>>180070323
i take the other one since 30 stacks is shit to get

>>180072354
Not having such a player on your team in the first place.

When am I gonna stop parsing KT as Kel Thuzad?

>>180039528
>>180040090
Dude just pick Zarya and laser his ass.

can you get heros from the loot boxes?

>>180071879
In SC2 it is reveled that he was never a Protoss but some lovecraft monster

>>180073915
When am I gonna start? It's gonna be weird when he's released and I'm wondering where the fuck the Kael'thas is.

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Is this the longest Cassia hot potato ult ever?

>>180074152
Are you seriously that retarded?
Tassadar was Tassadar. Ouros was the "Tassadar ghost" that Zeratul met in Wings of Liberty's flashback.
Tassadar lived his whole long life and died slaying the Overmind, he has no relationship to Ouros beyond Ouros borrowing his image so as to hoodwink Zeratul for the sake of expedience.

>>180074152
No, he was a protoss. The Tassadar that Zeratul spoke to over the overmind's corpse was Ouros.

>>180074197
lol

>>180073016
What's the go-to vikings build?

>>180072354
It's the worst when they are on opposite team but then they get carried and you lose

Is Roll20 actually legit? They're looking pretty decent lately.

>>180074197
>Someone actually died to it

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>mvp black loses to filthy americans
>throws by trying to core without any respect to them
>next game lets na get every pick they want

This is actually an interesting series. If MVP wins, they're actually in a good spot. If they lose though they're going to be so shit on.

>>180071879
By having the powers of the Templars and dark Templars Tassadar is able to transform into an archon temporarily.

>Friend agrees to give HOTS ago
>He agres to give vs AI a go to see how it plays
>180s queue time and only one other player on our team

dead game?

i think i might do play dota where all the heroes are free instead of this jew shit

>>180074895
Vs. ai is either an instant queue or no one's playing, depends on the time of day and bot difficulty.

>>180074983
Elite AI and EU. Maybe thats why. Still irritating though.

Which hero is best for multitasking coming from rts backround. I've only played Abathur so far. I just want more shit to do

>>180075053
Lost Vikings.

>>180075204
>the only character without rts background in the whole game
one job

Why is the girl announcer trying to sound like a porn star?

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>>180075361
can't unhear

>>180075332
I didn't know Diablo and Overwatch were RTS games.

>>180070842
>enemy Medivh is at 20+ stacks
>suicide chase him and kill him
>teammates pinging and calling me a retard
100% worth it.

>>180075528
y-you took the b8!

>be hearthshitter
>shieldbearer friends love kripp
>legend friends don't give a fuck about kripp

>be hotsshitter
>silver friends love grubby
>master friends don't give a fuck about grubby

what is it about these two people that attract shitters yet repels anyone who isn't dogshit?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13220308

what to buy

>>180075361
Which girl announcer ?

>playing azmodan
>laser beam valeera
>it continues tracking her through smoke and stealth

LMAO

>>180075417
>>180075698
The caster I mean, girl caster.
She squeezes her voice for whatever reason, that many like, really feminine girls do.

Pansy is like the only tolerable girl caster there is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2IcqPHXfo

>>180075679
What the fuck's a grubby
is this some obscure murky talent

>>180075679
Because grubby was the best wc3 player of all time.
Kiddies today don't know who he was.

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>>180075909
He was so good he even married a Korean fangirl

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>>180076049
>asian
Literally a race traitor

>>180076049
she's malaysian

Anyone have some probius tips? I feel like I'm trash with it

>>180076049
I'm sure she loves him deeply and truly

>>180076229
Nah. Grubby is a result of race-mixing.

>>180076323
You must construct additional pylons.

>>180075909
More like best whitey
There were far better players than him

>>180076323
Rush their mineral line.

>>180076431
That's Zergy the zergling thing

>>180076345
But where? I don't know if I should be pushing or what. Especially on maps where objectives don't let me try to set up all my shit

>>180066321
I think this guy should be a map objective somehow. He's quite iconic if you've played WoW IMO, but I'm not sure he would make a good hero.

>>180076391
No there weren't any better yellows, there later came one who could compete against him, and surpass him, but I believe Grubby had grown a bit tired of wc3 by then or something (also that yellow was playing a much easier race). He didn't lose a single major for 3 years.

>>180076476
You need to arrive at the objective before everyone else.
Do the 2xwarp rift + pulse to clear wave. It's okay to pylon overcharged one pylon.

Is visage in this game?

>>180076476
Probius excels at pushing provided you know when to back off so you don't get hit by a tower/fort. He has the disadvantage of needing set up time so keep one pylon at the front for a constant assault and another to retreat to if anybody comes in vision range.

Trigger worker rush early as any damage at all instantly cancels it.

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Gilly a cute

>>180076583
if he's so good at controlling 50 units, why can't he be #1 in heroes when you only control one??

>>180077174
because you can only control one
four retards control the other 80% of your units