/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Toki is shit.

>>179975228
oh thank fucking god! I thought /smtg/ will forever be drowned in apocalypse

and great, another Toki general

Which thread?

>>179975420
This one

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reminder

So yeah, was there another book with Kaneko's work in it? Not sure what Demons Bible is.

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>>179975228
I cry for smtg when a human "waifu" is the OP.

>>179975625
we're REALLY heading to the waifu route?

u want lewd Toki? here
https://youtu.be/uY68yhCcGOU?t=14m20s

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>>179975702
I fucking hope not.

I'm playing SMT IV: A on Apocalypse right now. Is playing a STR build ever going to actually be interesting? The constant misses, and +/- 40% damage taken/received makes STR feel like a huge chore in what's already a bit of a slog due to misses.

>>179976859
Meant to say +/- 40% taken/dealt, but yeah.

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>>179975228
SMT sucks.

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>>179977970
I disagree.

>>179976859
>Apocalypse
>constantly missing
That sounds about right. Apparently it gets better but I'm not too sure, haven't done an Apocalypse game yet.

Throw some more Ag into your stats.

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>start polaris fight
>take a step forward
>get blasted by like 10 hits from across the map

Kaneko Art Works Vol. IV releases today.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4775314653
Has it been 9 years since Vol. III?

>>179978559
>Throw some more Ag into your stats.
lol

>>179978668
>Not having Devil Flash/Winged Flight and True Phantasm on basically every party

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>>179975625
Unfortunately, both IV Apocalypse and DeSu brought all the shitty waifuposters to this general. Moreso DeSu 2. If the next SMT goes the same route, we're going to be at /pg/ leves.

Fags/fujos getting triggered over nothing are always funny.

>>179980574
>imolying waifuing demons is any different

>>179979979
I'm broke

Can Demonee-Ho work as a phys/gun attacker at the same time for Twisted Tokyo?
I don't think I can grind enough incenses to train two more demons.

>>179982332
No reason it shouldn't work. Even the lv900+ Fiends aren't THAT strict to kill within 10 turns if you have maxed stats and optimized skillsets.
I'd prioritize Gun on Demonee-Ho since his unique is by far the highest damage you can deal to Trumpeter but you should have a couple slots left over to make him at least passable on phys skills as well

>>179982652
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Akasha Arts, Blank Bullet, Charge, High Gun and Phys Pleroma, and maybe low Gun Pleroma.
Maybe Gun Pierce and Enduring Soul in the filler slots.

What kind of teams do people do TT runs with, anyway?

>>179982890
It's been a long fucking time but I think I had Cleopatra as support/DPS, Alilat as pure support, and then depending on the fiend either Demonee-Ho for gun or Inanna for magic damage
If you only want to raise a single team I'd probably drop the support/DPS and just include both a dedicated magical and physical DPS in the lineup

>MC isn't the Jersey Devil
>>179980574
>Demon waifuing faggots mad when people don't want a chick who's into vore

I want Tokifags gassed

DeSu 3 with more Yasuda waifus plz

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>>179985920
This.

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If I'm doing a physical build in SMT4 am I putting all the points into Str or Dex? I heard something about Str only affecting the basic attack while Dex powers up the physical and gun skills.

>>179986271
DEX

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>>179976046

>>179980574
Please don't trigger the DeSufags. We don't need more shitposters shitposting.

>>179986271
Focus on Dex while upping Agi and Luck.

Nothing wrong with demon waifus.

>>179986924
Waifus are all nice and good unless it's /pg/ level of waifuing

I'd wager that DeSu posters also actively post in /pg/.

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Venomous raga or dream raga

>>179986924
>>179986997
>Waifus
>good
>>179988334
I'd wager you're a faggot at that.

>>179988334
I wouldn't be surprised. DeSu is a good mid point between Persona and SMT. DeSu 2 even has shitty pseudo SLs.

>>179988441
How much would you bet?

>>179988504
1 macca

>>179988349
Venomous

>>179988770
You don't seem too confident, or are you poor?

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What's the optimal setup for a mixed Healing/Support lv 82 angel?
I'm thinking:
>Light Pleroma
>High Light Pleroma
>Judgement Light
>Debilitate
>Luster Candy
>Salvation or Mediarahan
>Invitation

>>179990754

Angel a slut. She proves that those who preach about virtue are the ones who sins the most

Playing first time poster playing through the finale of Apocalypse
kind of tempted to side with Lucifer. Dude makes a lot of sense desu. How bad of an idea is that?

>>179991176
Flynn is pretty much a gay loser who needs rescueing the whole time and Dagda is the same as the divine powers really. Merkaba was the real evil satan of the game. Luci seems like a chill guy.

>>179991176
Those aren't true endings, so you'll need to boot up your save file and complete the other half of the game anyway.

Might as well side with both to see both of the mediocre endings.

>>179990754
Throw Healing Knowhow in there, it's insanely good in Apoc in particular since items are so strong.

>>179990754
What are you aiming for?
If this is just for the story, then that should work.
If it's for Twisted Tokyo or the DLC's, you'll probably need another safety net in the form of Enduring Soul or Null Mind.

>>179991507
I already have a Item demon but that wouldn't hurt. Is Salvation worth it now that the Amrita effect is Smirk only or is Mediarahan enough? It's not like she'll get Smirks since she'll be healing/supporting essentially.

>>179991557
Story only. I'm saving up Twisted Tokyo for my New Game+. I'd probably put Drain Dark instead of Light Pleroma for TT though. Why Enduring Soul?

>>179991490
The ending more or less proved me right. Flynn ran like a bitch again and then instead of just letting Luci and Nanashi be kings of the world he dragged everyone in to eternal war
Why does Flynn suck so much?

>>179992305
Because that's not Flynn. Fight both of them

One more question sorry I know generals hate randoms shitting up their boards.
Reincarnation restart is for bitches right? I should do new life?

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>>179992305
Yeah, Flynn could be a bit of a snake sometimes.

How are you enjoying the game so far?

>>179992542
Oh shit when you posted that I totally just remembered Krishna didn't explode when you beat him.
It's pretty fun I played 4 as well but I didn't beat every ending on that one. On this one I probably will. The supporting cast is way more interesting than just Jonathan Isabeau and Walter. Though even in that game I agreed with Walter more.

Why after nukes Tokyo in SMT1 is just a ruined city while Blasted Tokyo is one big desert? Are nukes in IV stronger or what?

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>>179992786
Unlike IV, it's very easy to get all the endings in IVA as there's not really a point alignment system. Although the game does punish you if you decide to choose the opposite choice, according to how you've treated your friends. (I'll recommend treating your friends like garbage, you'll probably get sick of some of them anyway)

But honestly, I recommend doing the ending you want + watch the other ending and maybe its final boss battle on Youtube, because anyone here will tell you the last dungeon is boring to go through.

>>179989035
Because I also wager 10k Magnetite

>>179992797
Pluto fuck things up further

>>179992797
Old Gods tried putting a barrier right? Could've mitigated the damage a bit compared to the lack of masakado.
Maybe Pluto and other godly machines fucked things up further
Nukes could've been stronger.
Maybe just plain old inconsistency.

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Would pic related be better as a mixed light nuke and support, than pure support?
The rest of my planned TT team is either a Samael or Alilat doing pure support, and either Demonee-Ho or Inanna being offensive against whatever the current fiend is weak to.

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How do we fix SMT?

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>>179997056
1. Give back Cu Chulainn's superior design

>>179997056
Make Minotaur fusable in V

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>refresh tab from last night and skim the old thread
>dies and gets archived with no new one posted

Fucking hell, I'm afraid to leave you guys alone now.

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>>179997467
But do you love me, anon?

>>179997056
Hot spring episodes
Lotus Juice vomiting engrish whenever you fight
Yoshitsune wank
And make phys skills cost HP or someshit who cares

>>179997310
>there are people who call him choo choo lainn in this thread right now

>>179997467
but you're posting in the new one??????
i also fell asleep too haha

>>179998037
>not calling him Choo Choo Train

>planning a pure Physical Ongyo-ki
>got the fusions planned up and shit
>Phy Pleroma, High Pleroma, Pierce all ready
>forgot to put Charge in
Fuck my life.

Once I beat smt iv :A I can promise I will never play this fucking game again. The final boss is absolute bullshit. +3 and smirk? Fuuuuck.

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>>179997878
>Yoshitsune wank
I'd rather have Siegfried wank or Tokisada.

Or Tokisada being in V alone.

>>179998394
>what is Dekaja
>what is Magaon

Quit being a bitch, Son of Man.

>>179998394
>Magaon
>Dekunda and Dekaja
It's typically not a problem, unless he gets a smirk at the worst time via critical/weakness and you get unlucky.

The bigger issue is MP and Flynn getting kill before you can get decent weaknesses on him. Speaking of War/anarchy difficulty, Conflict he's not really hard.

>>179980574
Haven't played DeSu2, but DeSu1 is great, and none of the girls are even waifu material.

>>179998756
>what is wasting all resources on phase 1.
>what is that dumb ass attack he uses in ohase 1 that take half of the partys mp.
>Phase 2 hits like a fucking semi without buffs and there's no point in lowering his stats since he can +3 and smirk.

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>>179998037
apsaras

>>179998816
He's doing all this bs on conflict unless I have a buggy cart.

>>179999113
The fuck are you talking about? Dekaja and Magaon are cheap as fuck and should be your immediate response to Infinite Power.

>there's no point in lowering his stats since he can +3 and smirk

See there's your problem, just cause he raises them back up doesn't mean you shouldn't lower them, I'd try and at least keep one Debilitate on him at all times, and +1 or +2 on your own party.

>>179999752
Apparently, I've never had a demon with magaon. It's too much trouble to refuse and grind my party and I'm burnt out. I guess I'll play something else.

>>179999113
Aside from what >>179999752 said (no wonder why you're having problems), make sure you have things like:
>Doping (always have it in phase 2, phase 1 isn't really difficult)
>A demon with Healing Knowhow or something that can revive Nanashi in the case that he's kill
>Fang Breaker is always useful (phase 1) due to cost efficiency

Also, pay attention to when YHVH is going to transition from phase 1 into 2. When he transforms, the stats are going to be reset for both him and your party. You can use this opportunity to gradually switch your party into another party of demons before this happens, so you'll have more MP to play with.
You shouldn't need to waste a lot of MP during phase 1, especially if you're answering his questions correctly.

Guys like Krishna are useful for (((toot))) if you're having MP problems, as Luster Candy/Debilitate is expensive.

>>180000729
Alciel (68), Angel (12), Aramisaki, Kaiming Shou (41), Knocker (18), Macabre (46), Spriggan (15), Tuofei (32), Wicker Man (39), Yaksha

All these demons can get Magaon. You absolutely should not have an issue fusing something like an Angel to pass the skill onto something else.

Or just grind a tiny bit, teach Magaon to Nanashi if you can't fuse it into something else.

>>179993212
I kinda want to play through again just to finish compendium.
and try some a different build.
stength build was pretty strong. Power punch is one of my favorite additions over 4

>>180001581
I can't imagine trying to finish the compendium. I gave up trying to fuse a Siegfried because luck just wasn't on my side.

I'm really tempted to do a new game+ with a luck build, not sure if I should try Apocalypse difficulty or not. Apocalypse was my first game and I played it pretty inefficiently, so I've been wanting to try it again.

>>179985920
How do people waifu Yasuda characters?

>>180002463
With their dicks.

Waifu means nothing anymore, romance is dead.

>>180002463
Haru is pretty cute. I would try to talk her out of suicide.

>>180002463
I'm surprised too, given how fucking ugly his style is.

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>>179997310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN6mVBRypVA

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>>180003637
Shit taste.

I hope Yasuda does demon designs in DeSu3.

>>180003946
I fucking hate his faces

>>180004067
I fucking hate his everything.

>>180002091
I tried somewhat on the first run. Got to just under 50%. Man there are a lot of demons/angels in these games. I need to do the Jack line this time around. I didn't make any of the special jacks.

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>>180004067
I want to fuck his faces.

Is there anything that persona does better than SMT

>>179998394
just lower the difficulty dumb casualry scum

>>180004926
Sell.

>>180004926

Panteding to the powerfantasies of fat losers who were unpopular back in school

Let's make a Strange Journey Redux fan dub. I'm Mexican, I'll be Jimenez. We'll need a big black guy and a cute Russian girl.

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>>180005291
SMT does that too though, it just appeals to a different kind of loser, particularly the edgier ones.

>>180004926
Being released on relevant platforms.

>>180005740

But persona does it better and covers a wider range of losers due pandering to the lowest common denominator. Even edgelords feels attracted to persona, thus stealing smt's niche

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>>180005893
Fair enough.
>Even edgelords feels attracted to persona, thus stealing smt's niche
SMT is even losing its main appeal already. What the fuck do against the Personachads? Have we truly lost?

>>180003946
>likes Yasuda
>calling out shit taste to anyone
don't kid yourself lad

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>>180006967
Resist

>>180005558
Can I be Bugaboo? I'm pretty stupid.
>>180006967
>SMT is even losing its main appeal already.
Only for 4A did it fuck up those aspects, and even then you can be a bigger edgelord in it + not focused on high school bullshit

Game should've let you kill them sooner, allowing Nanashi to go solo and Dagda just giving you a first turn buff for boss fights.

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you know what to do boys

>>180008084
post a poorly cropped dagda?

>>180008084
>tfw no Nanashi dominating Dagda doujins

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>>180008084

>>180008738
nigga you gay

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>>180008931
smt is a fujo series, son of man

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What Chiaki would do for STR incense?

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>>180008931
It's not gay if skeleton is included, Matador raping newbies in Nocturne is not gay for example. Pic related is though.

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How do I win the secod Ouroboros fight?

>>180010667
Beat you for it.

She is not afraid to stain her hands with your/her blood.

>>180010910
Same as the first but less aggro and more sustain

>>180010910
Get as many items that protect agaisnt Hama as possible (The garbage sector enemy search demons drop it).

Get as many phys resist demons as possible and pray.

>>180010909
Recognizing a great ass doesn't make you gay, though.

Now wanting to fuck it, that's another story

>>180011550
>recognising a great ass
Anon if you were straight you wouldn't be looking at men's asses to begin with

>beat off to gay shit in doujins
>find 3D males pig disgusting
How gay am I faggotry experts?

>>180012237
So while playing Nocturne, you didn't notice Demifiend's ass' existence or anything?

>>180012561
No a true blooded heterosexual literally blocks out the existence of the masculine ass. Perception warps to where Demifiend's legs connect to his torso without anything that could rightly be described as an ass.

>>180012797
What about a guy's face, such as the perfection that is Raidou's?

>>180012367
pretty sure 2Dsexual doesn't count as actually gay

>>180012367
Depends.

On a scale from pleb-tier trap Nanashi to Space Marine, who would you fuck?

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>>180012797
What if they have an ass on their face?

>>180013762
If SMT was popular and had doujins Space Muhrine is probably the only MC I wouldn't fap to desu

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Am I the only guy, who seems to think that this guy looks like Agent Cooper from Twin Peaks?

>>180014776
That's an odd case of bisexuality. Who is best boy for you?


Though again, there are people here who are into 2d almost exclusively myself included sadly

To be fair Walter is pretty attractive.

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>>180015915

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Fug y/n?

>>180015915
Jonathan>Hoy=Flynn>>>>Nanashit

>>180016590
>foursomes from three demon babes every day
Fucking hell anon I literally just had sex____ and I'm rock hard again

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>>180003946
Well then.

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>>180016590

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>>180016590
>Face all three
>Get down to the last sister
>My MC get's Mahama'd
Fucking Bitches

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>>180016639
Nanashi is the cutest boy ever since hero senpai.

>>180018665
Not with that skelly body, anon.

Even Dagda has more meat to his bones, and he's a literal skeleton.

>>180019036
it's hard to live in tokyo

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>>180019036
I'm no homo to like muscles m8

>>180020058
That's pretty gay, anon!

Do you think Pascal was ok with being fused? Or he was just forced to do it?

>>180021004
I don't think Pascal could comprehend the concept of fusion until he was Cerberus.

Make Kaneko come back but leave Doi in charge of drawing grills

Honestly how bad is the remake gonna flop

I expect like 30 copies sold.

>>180022234
Will do okay.

Since they arent using english voiceovers then weaboos will get it and ATLUS might sell it cheaper.

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>>180021004
What would THIS dog have done if you could force her to be fused?

>>180022234
It won'y flop because it probably doesn't have enough budget to flop

>>180022146
politely ask kaneko if he would come back and throw yasuda into the pacific regardless

>>180022341
I would've liked Asahi a lot more if I could fuse her into something better.

Maybe a demon that isn't fucking retarded.

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>>180022379
I like Yasuda the most

>>180022694
Haru looks like a generic Yasuda bitch here

Fucking terrible

>>180022694
>Ryuji's mouth
The fuck is that?

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>>180003817
Megaten MOBA when?

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>>180022627
I really liked the IDEA of Asahi. This pathetic groupie who follows you like a dog who you can bully.
Also the idea of seeing the contrast of this innocent character who has known the MC for a long time turning more and more desperate to justify your evil actions, sad that her good friend might not be as good as she thought he was.
"Y-you're killing them because the were evil, right? I think they would have just gone away peacefully if left alone... B-BUT IF YOu say that we must kill them I-I guess it must be done... haha..."

>>180023187

I blame the SHITTY ADULTS for that.

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>>179997310
New Ku Klux Lainn is better desu.

>>180023853
It's too bad the end of the game was such a rushjob, dumping you into space hallways for 10 hours instead of giving difference changes based on choices made in the game and which partner you chose at the end, it really would have been ABSOLUTELY D E V I L I S H to have a brainwashed Asahi turned obedient as you decide to kill everyone

>>180022694
>look at anne
>first thing i see is tits
I mean I'm glad he didn't shove them all over the place in typical yasuda fashion but goddamn

>>180022694
Makoto looks legit autistic here.

>>180025013
>looks
le funny makoto meme

>>180024536
>Player 2 Tam Lin

Anyone have a download link for this album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqGcOg3giu8

can reaper only get despair from flu season, or will ominous words/abysmal surge work?

>>180026326
just flu season

why compEndium so expensive in 4A

>>180027096

To make people buy the DLC

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>>180025348
haha. Why
>>180024660
I fail to see the issue here

why can't you fuse out of the compendium in P5

playing 4A again made realize how much I missed that feature even though P5 is easy as fuck as is

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She's dead anons, who would fug a dead little girl? It's unhealthy, think about all worms inside of her

>>180028168
what's the problem with one more?

>>179998959
every 2d or 3d character in any context is waifu material in the current year

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>>180028168
You shut your whore mouth.

Alice is cute! CUTE!

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>>180022146
Kaneko makes the cutest girls though.

Has anything from the old games been translated recently? I think the last thing I saw was megami tensei 2. I have an acquaintance who says he's bugtesting smtif but idk how much I believe that

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Quick, post hot demons.

Yuji Himukai (EO artist) for Devil Survivor 3!

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>>180028880

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>>180028168
I just want an excuse to post this.

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what's wrong is with his penis, what kind of game is he playing?

>>180029496
this littel lawfagot is getting virtual SUCC of dick and basically, youre a test tube baby

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>>180029496
He's playing SMT: VR, the penis pod is to simulate the feeling of being punched in the dick.

>>180028880
I love Nocturne's art style.

>>180030232

I wonder if pokefags would able to handle SMT style monster recruitment.

>>180031769
Personafags can't handle dark souls of persona, so why do you think pokefags would?

>>179998320
Can't you just use a mitama for that? I forgot if mitamas can alter skill selection in 4.

>>180031769
Honestly, it'd pretty much be easier.

>>180032598

>Accepting to lose your master ball plus several rare candies during negotiation because the pokemon would only accept to live in a master ball

>>180031769
There's that one comic

>>180032819
Yeah, or you just kill it and he begs to join you afterwards.

>>180032819
Wouldn't they want a luxury ball?

>>180031769
I thought it'd be a cool recruitment idea for a Mystery Dungeon game, instead of it being a fucking random chance after you defeat an enemy. Also because press turn is great and needs to be in more games
>>180032885
Yeah and it's two posts above it

So if Nozomi never snitched, Asahi's dad would still be alive since Nanashi would've been there to beat Quetzalcoatl

>>180033357
>IVA writing is retarded
#wow #whoa

>>180033446
This is my first time. I didn't know it would be this shit.

>>180031769
>implying it's that hard compared to RNG ball waster
>>180031943
>Reviewers
>even comparable to the average faggot
Most of those guys are a special level of shitter.

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I am angry.
ANGRY ABOUT CHOICES

>>180033803

What RNG? It only exists for legendary pokemon or if you are trying to capture something at full HP.

Critical HP plus status ailments pretty much guarantees you will enslave anything outside legendaries with the suitable ball in a single attempt or in the first three attempts if you are a cheapstake and use the cheapest generic pokeball

>tfw gabriel is starting to become your demonfu after seeing her in P5

a-am I becoming a lawfag?

>>180035174
>I want to become a angel
>lel you actually can't because we're too incompetent to make branching storylines wait until the alignment split
Why ever bother putting this choice? and you guys tear social links apart for having no outcome into the main plot as if mainline was any better.

>>180037621
It happened to me. Embrace it.

>>180037621
>loving anyone but God

Go away sinner, His agents shouldn't be tainted with lowly and primitive human desires.

>>180037712
the writing in these games was never that good, idk who made up this legend that megaten somehow had stellar writing that eventually went to shit, the older games just had a lot less story and dialogue in general which I vastly prefer but it doesen't make the story or dialogue better. I mean it's perfectly serviceable but that's it

>>180038973
P2 overhyped things. Literally one game with a good story.

>>180039630
Yeah pretty much, I think people just confuse mood or atmosphere for story somehow. P2 back then had almost the worst gameplay in the franchise too (except for last bible 1 and 2) so it's not like mainline only fans ever hold it up as an example

>>180037712
i don't know about any bantz, and i don't mind fake agency that much.

but if you give three options and none of them are negative, especially after that cutscene, then that's some horeshit. feigning ignorance (or being a smartass) doesn't cut it, and i don't know about anyone else but i certainly wasn't at a loss for words.

>>180038973
I've always liked how megaten tackled themes and incorporated religion and mythology into their writing. Even if the actual plots or characters of the games are either super basic or mediocre, the commentaries it makes on different theistic concepts are always great.

>>180040520
I'm just here for the designs.
If anything the problem really is the alignment shit being so biased on one spectrum
>>180039865
To be fair most of the games, even stuff like Persona (both PS1 and the 2007 upwards entries) do at least show the atmosphere well for whatever it it, apocalypse, futuristic apocalypse, rural and bustling towns, whatever really.

>>180040520
I 100% agree with you, but the writing in say, smt4 or 4a is not any worse than that of the old games, the characters were always extremely basic and one note placeholders for a specific worldview, they just have a fuckton more dialogue due to modern gaming conventions now which I feel is the main issue and one that I never see discussed, if dark souls can be a massive hit with minimal dialogue I can't see why mainline smt needs so much when the characters themselves never had anything interesting to say

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Can anyone give me some tips for Pale Rider in Nocturne?

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Not counting the ultimate personas, which personas are recommended for taking on the bonus bosses in Mikage Ruins and Devil's Peak?

>>180038973
but it has mythological references and let you kill God it's DEEP

>>180041895
okay but which demon would you fuck?

>>180041895
Gideon release If... plz

>>180041895
What are their alignments?

Trump - Chaotic Good
Hillary - Lawful Evil
Bernie - Lawful Neutral
Alex Jones - Neutral Evil
Milo - True Neutral
Colbert - Chaotic Neutral
Sessions - Chaotic Evil
Comey - Lawful Neutral
What else?

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>>180042053
Angel

>>180042592
stop pretending they're not all variants of law

>>180044259
I can agree to that. Every politician has to be law in some way, although there's nothing wrong with having variants to describe every possible take on an alignment.

>>180042592

But trump is dark law evil

>>180028876
if he's not lying that's huge news, MTII on Famicom is playable up to Tokyo tower. DMAMUFACTURE's website is gone though, haven't heard from him in awhile.

>>180037621
>not turning her to chaos

Why is that even though I'm playing SMT IV: A on apocalypse difficulty, it feels easier than playing SMT IV even on normal? It's probably Dagda being there to revive any time I wipe with literally zero repercussions, but that only feels like a piece of the puzzle. There's like zero tension in the game, it feels very by the book.

>>180045573
he may just be covering for aeon genesis, as I said I don't know how much I believe that, 3 years for bugtesting with no updates whatsoever doesen't sound legitimate. Still I am hopeful. Too bad all the other interesting translations like devil summoner or the majin tensei games or the smt1/2 remakes were never mentioned again

ded series

>>180045937
You're probably better at the series.

The free revives is a shit excuse because if you want so, you can still use to die. Free revives only saves you the bother of skipping through Charon's dialogue and then reloading a file.

>>180045937
>>180046723
i felt similarly, it probably was due to playing IV as my first Megaten and playing like 4 others before IVA came out. I rather enjoyed IVA's gameplay overall though.

>>180045573
>playable
that's debatable when half of the demon conversations are unreadable

>>180047396
I like the snes version better anyway

>>180047396
I was just repeating what's written on the RHDN description, I've only played a bit on my EverDrive, since I don't want to get too into it if I can't beat it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed though, I love that game.

>>180047529
i don't, atlus outsourced it and they ruined the graphics and music

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>>180047529
I like the Famicom version a lot more, but have obviously only beaten the SFC version.

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>>180047637

>>180047726
>IT'S AN ALL OUT DEATH BATTLE!
>DEMON HAS BEEN BRUTALLY MURDERED!
i fucking love how over the top this is

it's obviously not accurate but i love it

>>180046723
>The free revives is a shit excuse because if you want so, you can still use to die.
Naw, it definitely removes, or at least lessens, tension from the game. There's basically no need to ever save in this SMT because you can't ever get a true game over unless you specifically click for it. Saying, "Well, you can force yourself to get a game over if you want!" isn't even remotely the same.

>>180047873
saving every 2 steps is just busywork, the obvious solution would just to have savepoints/checkpoints you respawn at when you die like in the older games but it would be considered archaic

>>180047825
me too, DMANUFACTURE used to come around here sometimes, I wish he'd drop by again. I wonder if he's still working on it.

>>180045937
SMT4A's tension lay mostly in its boss fights.

I dunno about you but Sukuna-Hikona, that Angel at the beginning, and others made my palms sweat on Apoc difficulty. But yeah, there was no tension going through any area bar the peniultimate dungeon. Really was kind of disappointed by that, hope it doesn't return for SMTHD or V.

>>180047396
>knowing what you're saying matters in demon negotiation
nah it's fine

Is Imposing Stance worth spamming in Twisted Tokyo/DLC, or should I just stick to keeping buffs/debuffs up?

>>180048118
>but it would be considered archaic
Seems like it fits the genre more. Being able to do a full save anywhere isn't really streamlining, it's casualizing. I realize SMT IV had this too, but again, the game over thing. I really like how Etrian Odyssey does it - full saves in town, suspended saves anywhere for if you need to shut the system down. Suspended save gets deleted upon load to prevent abuse.

>>180048295
>SMT4A's tension lay mostly in its boss fights.
I suppose that's accurate. Being forced to really build a team for the bosses is interesting at least.

>>180048514
It's very worth it. Less press turns is always a great thing, it's less opportunities for the boss to do something without relying on the boss to fuck up and hit one of the elements your team nulls.

>>180048660
This, EO style is great. Maybe make it so you can full save in 'safe' areas (areas with no demon spawn) and then suspended saves everywhere else.

>>180048118
>but it would be considered archaic
Well Persona 5 had dungeon checkpoints but let you restart from the last checkpoint even if you didn't save, also let you restart a boss battle instantly instead of going back to a checkpoint/reloading. And let you save anywhere outside of dungeons. I think it worked pretty well.

>>180047529
>>180047637
also i thought it was cool how the NES version actually lets you fight plot important characters

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You outta believe they translate this by now.

>>180050092
why that particular one when you have the PS1 version

its a lightning fast version, you literally have a run button

>>180050164
agreed, the gba versions are brutally choppy, the sound is nearly unlistenable too.

>>180041280
Tetraja

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we can all agree that smt protag looked cooler with his fro

>>180050789
i thought it was like some pompadour

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>>180050789
For a second I thought you were asking to compare the protagonists in general. I don't know, I guess this version is better. The other version just feels way too similar to too many other SMT characters.

>>180050164
How hard would be to hack the PS1 versions and put Gideon's script there? We even have the ISO with the yellow text nowadays. Albeit no one in the "scene" would do it since Gideon would't allow for them user his script even if his group was credited...

>>180052754
here are things i found out about SMT2 PSX while poking around:
>a lot of the menu text is stored in pure ASCII in memory
>the script seems to be SHIFT-JIS or some variant of it
that's about all i know

>>180050789
his hair it's just curly senpai

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>>180028880

I want a Raidou game with sword+pistol combat style like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acz4rcbUV9Q

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>>180028880

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Do Awakened Power and Pierce passives let you get through -karn skills?
Makarabreak and Tetrabreak seem good to have just in case, but I want to know if they'll actually be useful so I don't waste slots.

>>180057210
Since Pierce goes through repel now, yes

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How the fuck do i beat Vishnu-Flynn without friends

>>180060903
Imposing stance

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>>180060903
Standard buff/debuff/damage. Buff and debuff to +2/-2

>>180060903
We must use our anger as fuel for our jouney

>>180060996
Do any demons have it in cosmic egg?>>180061131
Even if I only buff/debuff to 1 he dekaja/kundas the next turn and I don't have enough mp to spam it

>>180062034
Only Tenkai and Zhong Kui know Imposing Stance. Still worth getting so you can stop him from removing buffs/debuffs

>>180062034
Tenkai and Zhong Kui has it

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Should I replay Nocturne or FFXII? I recently played IV, P5 and IVA, so I kind of feel burnt out on it.

>>180063881
Nocturne now, and wait for Zodiac Age.

>>180063881
FF is thrash. Play another genre instead, so you cure yourself from the burnt.

>>180064209
>wait for Zodiac Age
Do you think it's worth it over just emulating the patched JP PS2 Zodiac version? The following worries me

>We overhauled the game balance so that it would be easier for players—closer to the feel of a classic Final Fantasy title.

>>180064415
Honestly, I'm not sure. I've never played FFXII myself, I just know this is supposed to be the "definitive" edition since it has all the content. It may actually be better just to emulate it.

>>180064415
Probably because they enhance the licence grid.

Besides FFXII hard parts are bullshit, like making bosses inmune to any damage for a period of time (Usually when low in health and with many statd increases due to skills that activate at certain HP percentage), having multiple attacks towards one character or bullshit super skills that destroys the entire team.

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>>180063881
Go replay FFX instead, it's the perfect summer vidya.

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This thread isn't dying on my watch.

>>180052902
Still haven't been able to find or decode the Script

Do you think Atlus will be constantly teasing SMT HD with new art and concept videos or they won't show anything until the proper reveal?

>>180068410
when's even the proper reveal man?

>>180068510
A couple of years probably.

Who are you?
What do manchildren like you want from me?

>>180060903
>Have 400 St
>Luster Candy
>Debilitate
>Charge
>[Strongest physical skill]
>Have someone cast Mediarahan
>???
>profit

>>180068510
thousand year kingdom

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When does this happen in the game?
I've seen a Setanta say this as well.

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Hoy.

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this guy is really fun to use, i liked his character too

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>>180064415
On the other hand, they fixed Vaan's bizarre abs.

Two Luster Candies or an LC and a Debilitate?
One LC would be on Cleopatra, so I don't know if there's a point to putting debilitate on another demon when she has Alluring Banter anyway.

>>180052142
>>180050789
>pre digital looks cool cyberpunk dude
>post digital makes him look like a fag with later Serph hair

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Do you guys like bara demons? Which one you really like?

>>180075418
Don't know that race, in what game do they appear?

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>>180075418
MT Loki is bara kino

>>180076209
I want MT Loki to rape and absorb me.

>>179998959
What is a good way to get debilitate on Angel and Demiurge?

I have looked on the fusion calculator and it would take at least 5 fusions

>>180076660
Have you tried defining the parameters (desired demon, desired skill) in Mido and running a search? Don't forget to check the box that includes demons in your compendium.

>>180076209
Muh nigga

Do Flynn only cap on level 99? Is there any way to past this like 4:A dlc?

>>180061131
Which Sith Lord is this?

>>180076868
Thanks my dude, will try

>>180077064
Grievous after fujo pandering

>>180077064
Darth Poo

>>179975228
why is Toki such a waifu bait? gives me horrible memories of Rise

>>180077970
Toki isn't THAT bad

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>>180077970
Imagine how fun it would be to manhandle her tiny body. I'd just walk around Nanashi's room looking for things to bend her over and fuck her on.

>>180078351
I'd throw her off of the top of Roppongi Hills.
>>180078067
>boring chaos slut turncoat
>good
I'd rather have SMT1 Lilith lusting over me and the dialogue was barren there.

Who would be better in a Twisted Tokyo team, Inanna or Mephisto?
The former just gains press turns by having the complete set of Trisagion, etc., while the latter is a dark/almighty nuke with Fear Darkness/Growing Hate.

>>180078351
Why did she turn to shit after the Aether jars?

>>180077064
Darth Pajeet

Are any paid SMT4A DLCs worth it?

>>180080513
The fight DLCs are pretty damn good.

>>180079361
Possessed by a slutty demon milf.
But it turns out that said demon was better than Toki without that plot point

Why is black rider always so shit, bros?
>considered the weakest of the fiends outside of stuff like david
>based around ice, the shittiest element, and almighty, which he barely has enough strength to use
>best stats are usually vit and agility, which are both meaningless since he hits like wet tissue paper
>soul divide is trash
>smt4a gives him cool moves like calibrate or pressuring stance but you can't actually get him
>smt4 makes him a literal joke fight where he does nothing but jew you
>not even a cool horseman in his own right, he's pestilence. Seriously, you have badass stuff like CONQUEST, WAR, DEATH, and then gay ass famine or whatever
I want to like him but it seems like Atlus doesn't want me to

>>180080995
he is my favorite horseman because he is good at almighty and ice, two my favorite elements and he has a weighing scale

>>180052754
>since Gideon would't allow for them user his script
What the fuck is he gonna do? Cry and bitch about it?

>>180072221
After evolving maybe? Or just upgrading a skill.

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>>180081292
>almighty and ice, two my favorite elements
>Ice

>>180081932
not release If...

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>>180082230

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>>180082230
>fire cucks

magic is for fags

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>There are people that don't run Guns and Zio skills

>>180083056
White Rider is an actual faggot

>look at me mom i have luster candy!!!
>let me spam it for eternity!!!!

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>not using light all the time

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>he doesn't max strength and only use basic attack through the whole game

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If you don't exclusively use your sword/gun/fists you're a fag.

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>not negotiating with everyone to make them leave

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>>180076868
>the box that includes demons in your compendium

Oh my fucking god

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>>180083202
Best Fiend

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>>180083472
Best Fiend Friend.