>What's EVE Online?
A space-based sci-fi MMORPG known for its steep learning curve, massive scale, and unique depth. It's also known as "Space Spreadsheet Simulator" and "NEET Space Gods".
>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes. Eve is F2P, with some restrictions, and you can earn enough in-game money to get a subscription ("PLEX").
>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using a referral link (chaining them with friends works best). If you have no friends you can easily create two accounts and refer yourself - you'll need an alt anyway:
https://secure.eveonline.com/recruit/
If you buy a subscription on the referred account, then the account used to create the referral link will receive in-game money. Therefore some people will ask you to click their referral links, with the promise of monetary returns. There is no guarantee that you will actually get your share, if you click other people's referral links.
>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and consider finding a corp. Corporations are a great way to connect with people and learn the game properly. The game is only as boring as you are.
For career suggestions, see this graphic:
https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg
>Read the /eog/ pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/cqJUuVT9
>Game information
Eve University UniWiki: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page
>Maps and regions
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/wormholelist.asp
>PvP information
https://zkillboard.com/
https://evewho.com/
>Fitting, structure, and skill planning tools
https://github.com/pyfa-org/Pyfa
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Third-party_tools
>Updates
https://updates.eveonline.com/
>Markets
https://eve-central.com/
https://eve-marketdata.com/
http://evepraisal.com/
>Some scrub from a C5 comes into our C2
>Gets one kill on a retarded newbro in a VNI and starts talking massive shit, tells him to bring friends
>We drop 8 battleships in his hole
>They all dock up and hide in their Astrahus for the next 3 hours as we bash their pocos
>05:50:30 1,419,000,000 ISK
is that enough ratting, c-can I go to sleep yet?
So this is how /dog/ dies, huh...
>carriers
>not flying best ship
>>179970828
Thread death due to lack of activity during the less active hours is actually pretty common, even in long-standing generals. I used to frequent the GW2 general back when the game came out and during lulls in which there wasn't much discussion about the game people would often resort to posting random pictures of their characters to bump the thread. Since Eve doesn't really have that "waifu" aspect, or at least not to such a great degree, a 404 here or there can be expected.
>>179970907
Coercer is the worst destroyer.
Heretic is the worst interdictor.
>>179971554
post space waifus
>>179971902
>Coercer is the worst destroyer.
Nah, man. Corax.
>>179972023
What's so bad about it?
How do I know if I have a good enough ship to do these Rogue Swarm alerts?
I'm in a battlecruiser using medium hybrid turrets.
>>179973141
People runs those sites in destroyers.
>ferox
>>179973141
You'll be fine. I thought they were pretty easy doing them in a Vexor so, to see if I could, I made a new Minmatar character, injected Minmatar frigate 1, fitted a Rifter with 3 autocannons, a web, an afterburner, a damage control, and a small armor repairer, and I was able to clear one.
How important is attracting new players, 1-10?
>Jump into system
>Falcon decloaks
>>179973295
>that image
Proof or GTFO
>>179973295
Don't worry the new moon mining will be sure to bring in new players
>le new players meem
>>179974168
Moon mining?
Care to share some info on that?
What's a subcap that would make people shit their pants if they saw it on their overview?
Bellicose
>>179974463
stabber
>>179974463
My Manticore
>>179974463
Sabre with local spike after the bubble goes up
>amarr
>eve online
>>179974320
No, it isn't going to be bringing in any new characters.
It's supposedly going to drag a chunk of moon into orbit, blow up, and miners do their thing. This way the moon mats are spread around among the little guys instead of it going to the alliance leaders.
>le little guy meem
Nice try communist
Iv been fooling around with the idea of living out of an Orca roaming around wspace, tell me how bad it would be.
I would have the Orca account a scanning/scout account and the PvP/PvE account. Id mostly be ganking krabbers or krabbing myself all accounts would have close to max scanning skills incase shit hits the fan and i get podded.
Ideally i would log in the scout/scanning alt and make sure everything is all good for the orca to log in then have the orca cloak up in a safe and start looking for targets in the neighbouring systems. I then have the PvP/PvE account log in and kill things or just run sites with my scan alt watching the hole for any activity.
In the Orca id have an extra scanning frig, a Sabre for dicking around in nullsec, a Gila and whatever else i think of as i go along.
Thoughts?
>>179976023
>Iv been fooling around with the idea of living out of an Orca roaming around wspace, tell me how bad it would be.
It would be extremely painful
>>179976023
I thought about that too but it's too complicated, an orca is only one probe scan
You better do daytrip
>>179976932
Ideally the Orca is only decloaked for 10 seconds on login and 20 seconds in a deep safe that changes every day whenever i need to swap to another ship.
>>179977024
>>179976023
I don't get why you need an orca if you have alts. Just bring a scanning/PVP T3c and a jew ship.
Also, it's gonna be hard to find worthy "targets" with a one man op. People have done this before, but sounds like you're just going through a lot of trouble for very little gain other than MUH TOO AUTISTIC TO JOIN A CORP.
If you end up doing it though, please make recordings and chronicle it. Even though it's an impractical idea and even though it will go up in flames, it's romantic and I would like to see how exactly it unfolds (even long after it is done).
>>179977319
The Orca is so I dont have to go back to empire space for weeks and I have everything I need with me.
>>179978675
But you could just put down a citadel.
>>179978978
The whole point is to be a roaming POS tho.
>>179979081
Why bother roaming when you get new connections every day regardless?
>>179979124
When someone tries to kick down my sandcastle I can just take my sandcastle elsewhere. Also lets me live in someone elses hole and they wouldnt even know it unless I fucked up.
>>179979238
It's far more easier to kill an Orca jumping wormholes than to siege a citadel.
You cant scout a citdal through a wormhole tho.
Scouting is not infallible.
How mind numbing is carrier ratting?
>>179979878
Nothing in eve is meant to be perfectly safe and i would feel much more helpless watching as my citadel dies to a group that wants my wormhole than to lose it by being stupid and jumping it when it wasnt safe to do so.
However iv also thought about setting up a small POS and just taking it with me in a T1 industrial whenever i wanted to move along, but I can imagine how annoying it would be to unpack and pack all the shit up every so often if i was to do this.
>>179980031
>to a group that wants my wormhole
A lot of wormholes are completely undesirable. But suit yourself, I hope you find dank dunks and lots of shekels,
I'd like to see Citadel skins that (entirely new models, not just a reskin) change them into different looking citadels, such as Junkyards or Golden Amarrian palaces etc.
>>179980250
Thanks for the positivity Anon
cap
recharger
Prophecy
>sov
>wardeccers
>highsec
>NRDS
>>179969401
Wormhole shitters are terrible people
did people stop complaining about nothing yet
>>179992578
Show me on the doll where HK touched you
Just got back in the game after a couple year hiatus I'm just flying an Omen right now what is everyone else up to?
>>179994760
nobody cares about your meme alliance
Why do renters exist when joining TEST is free?
>no strat paps
>no CTAs
>no activity requirements
>lower taxes than Goons
>FREE rorq mining
>they'll form up to save you if you get tackled
>shield only meme cap fleet that doesn't accept armor supers
>just get a Nyx and you can krab 23/7 without anyone bothering you
>>179973141
I've been smashing them in a """pvp""" fit Tristan. Just fit an AB and orbit the beacon, kill everything with your drones.
Then orbit the end spawn and it can't touch you.
>>179998946
I sat at 20k with a Micro on and kept some shield on an armor fit.
>>179994993
>Pressing V ad infinitum
>forgetting to press V for 30 seconds
>get blown up
>>179969563
Lol, I had this same amount and still wasn't enough for 500 PLEX
Is a talocan cruiser can spawn even guaranteed to drop good loot?
Can I just warp to all my scanned down data/relics and look for the can, and fuck off it it's not there?
>>180001094
>Can I just warp to all my scanned down data/relics and look for the can, and fuck off it it's not there?
Yes.
oneiros
What's the best guild for newbies?
>
>>180007698
All-Out
>PLEX 1.46b
welp I may be late but guess it's time to finally start making that army of alphas. They'll start bringing in a profit around christmas time.
Eve will be dead by that time.
>>180008632
it's just the summer lull! The numbers will shoot back up! Everyone is too busy being outside walking their dogs and playing with super soakers!
>Flying marauders with empty pods
>flying marauders
>Flying
What are the best new player corps for null pvp?
>>180008632
>>180008871
thanks reddit
>>180009637
Dreddit, Karmafleet, Pandemic Horde, Brave Newbies
Pick your poison.
>Karmafleet
>shilling reddit corps
>>180010062
which of these is the least reddit?
>>180010326
They're all reddit to some degree. Karmafleet and Dreddit are the most reddit.
>>180010326
They are all max reddit.
>>180010443
>>180010416
>>180010316
So any non reddit new player corps?
>>180010567
None
>>180010567
All-Out if you want to play in wormhole space. Which is the best type of space if you don't want to be a dumb cog-in-the-machine nullsec f1 monkey.
>wormhole space
Reminder that the retard who shills his garbage comp as All-out, isn't actually in All-out. All-out died.
>>180011262
t. Kainar
>nullbabbies would rather have new players alerting them of NEUTRALS IN LOCAL and do nothing for 6 months than have them be a part of their own marauding WH dunk gang and making dank ISK with low SP investments
Makes you think
>>180011262
Fuck off Kainar.
>>180011486
>>180012287
You can stop samefagging, autist.
>>180012039
>omg how dare they insult my alpha sweatshop. I wonder what my ccp shilling guidebook says about that.
>sweatshop
lel
Oneiros
>tfw u get the ping and the fleet ends up standing down
>>180007698
Karmafleet or ASCEE. You can still move to meme space later if you so desire.
>>180009637
BRAVE
>Lachesis
>Latch-i-sus
>>180007698
>>180009637
I'm both ironically and unironically interested in joining Brave or Karmafleet.
What's ASCEE?
don't give attention to ascee
>b-b-b-but pls notice my reddit corp :(
What, you guys aren't skilled enough to join an elite alliance like PL?
SP doesn't correlate with skill
>16. You are roaming with an alliance member‚ both of you in vagabonds‚ and spot a lone Drake on a gate in an empty system. What do you do?
Well? Are you elite enough to answer this?
>>180014079
Ascendance. "Not reddit" corp which is basically reddit like everything else, filled with mouthbreathers like the other corps. They have less SRP than Karmafleet, if I'm not mistaken.
According to some people, Brave space is like living in Syria. If that's your thing then go ahead, but dont expect filling your pockets if you want to rat.
>>180015229
I love the idea of retarded nullbloc leadership grilling line members on how to do small gang pvp, and in ships people haven't really used for 5 years
>>180015229
Decloak my covops cyno tengu and drop a super on it.
>You are roaming with an alliance member
>roaming
thalia
>nobody uses vagabonds
How to PL.Zoltan Cole
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Zoltan_Cole
>>180018714
not the "lol I have a shitty shield buffer and kite with 200 dps" type from before
Any of /eog/ just hang out and small-gang roam Omens?
>omg how dare you sell things above jita price???? Here, let me crash the prices to a true socialist standard.
>market pvp
>undercutting people is socialism
>implying forcibly setting prices on jita level isn't
>>180007698
Hogs Collective
>>180021734
>some guy buys a set of rattles at jita sell price
>puts them back up at +20%
>REEEEEE NO MARKET FUCKERY
>market already littered with buy orders off by a factor of 10 hoping for people to misread it
do you really get retarded internet socialists policing your market orders in big alliances?
>>180025459
Not on this side of the universe.
>muh alliances
Nigga this shit is everywhere.
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/black-eagles-hold-private-meeting-with-astral-mining-security-director/
I thought the Kyonoke thing was finished?
Can I sit on a novice plex beacon with this? For pvp, not FW.
>>180030603
you can but it's shit and too expensive
>>180030827
Yea. You got me there.
>It's a Fozzie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP because its always true) episode
Legion
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vGGgy84Sut0FOX1U18Npu54wShQUgnTkUCdVKyW914A/edit
Proteus
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q0HSnCO8ZF5L_VdoIqPRBPqexbWAj2LPWJhhRh7BALk/edit
Loki
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DD5fLwEkXjx1DeJh9TqIh97VD37Po7R0EqMTsAGfsRk/edit
Tengu
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11cEPxqqQ5uBHFaXmv_FgbKzcIJSQ0o_xEDPL_UOz7xI/edit
>Covert Reconfiguration
>7.5% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness
kys fozzie
>in the middle of training for proteus
>hear about T3s getting nerfed
>change skill queue to carriers
>carriers getting nerfed
Fuck, what should I do now?
Are shield rigs and artillery a bad mix? I have this niggling feeling that a larger signature radius while kiting is a bad thing; but then again armour tanking a kiter would reduce speed which is more important to a kiter .. Man, I haven't a clue how to fit ships beyond 'point and web = PVP'. This sucks.
>>180032662
maybe fly what you like the look of rather than chasing fotm shit
>>180032568
>missing that the covert reconfig is now a defensive slot and not offensive
>>180032840
>so now it does damage and it can permatank you
>>180032774
I really like the look of the blackbird. Maybe I'll train into a falcon?
>>180032974
you could train into blackbird
Everyone still use EvEMon and EFT, or did better programs come out?
>20% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams
>>180033089
we're stuck with eft and pyfa for fitting. eft is out of date by something like a year because the faggot dev won't open source it or do anything, and pyfa is >pyfa. I kind of use both of them. the in-game simulation tool is handy for changing things a little bit I guess but it's too clunky to get proper autismal eft work done
>+0.1 inertia
>>180032952
>boo hoo muh t3 nerfs
>they're not actually nerfed
>boo hoo they're not nerfed
??
>10% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness
>10% bonus to the benefits of overhearing armor repairers
>5% reduction in Medium Remote Armor Repairer capacitor use
>75% reduction in the PWG and CPU fitting costs of Medium Remote Armor Repairer modules
>95% reduction in the PWG and CPU fitting costs of Command Burst modules
>20% bonus to Medium Remote Armor Repairer optimal range
>8 lows
>7 highs
>>180033641
I'm complaining that it's cancerous and overpowered
>instead of nerfing logi they make it even more cancer
>>180035792
and combat probes for all t3cs, just why? I don't mind it on t3ds because they're very engageable for things that aren't frigs, but these t3cs look all kinds of cancer for all ship classes to deal with
>>180033654
this isn't real is it
How much fun are blops?
>train into blops
>cloaky camp a ratting system
>enjoy salt in local
>camping in blops
>probing FC t3c has always been a thing
>shitters mystified by non-solo application of ships
>i-i-it's for fcs guise i swear :(
>wormhole corp
>new moon drilling foreman keeps track of who mined how much
>only allowed to mine moon chunks during corp ops
>all proceeds go to the corp since they need to make up for the loss of old moon goo
>xhey actually think moonshit will be privatised
>be in null sov alliance
>indy guy in my timezone knows his shit
>gets rorq dropped by PL
>fights em away with carrier and fax backup
>excited about new moon mining
>we building caps now
>mfw mining with a boosted hulk is actually worth doing
>only the ceo is allowed to rorq mine in the moon belt
>says it really helps out the corp
>spams more useless citadels everywhere
>raises ratting tax
>puts a tax on the POCOs even though the PI buyback already has a tax applied by being below jita buy
>xhe makes up fictional horror stories that couldn't happen to try to recruit people into xher terrible dead corp
>both xhe and xher targets have no clue about big alliances
dem old, stale memes tho
im about to install this game. what should I expect
>>180046283
ded game
make sure you make your account with a referral link for the free skill points and isk/plex if you sub
https://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=b30f2863-e9ac-4c23-9a32-fe73ddccf22c&action=buddy
>>180046804
>>180046283
Don't use his link. It creates mustard gas.
Why does everyone keep coming to brave space to fight?
I love it
>Running the drone sites in HS because I've got nothing better to do in my Gila while waiting for the alliance to get on
>Some nigger steals my loot
>Throw out my Adaptive Shields for web and tackle
>Prelock anyone that jumps on grid now
>Every single ship now warps off instead of trying to contest the loot
>Get bold and start jumping into sites being run by others and locking them
>More than half them warp out and I generally get the last hit on the other half that stay behind
>Not a single person has tried to contest my loot since
Looking at the career sheet, is it even possible to do something useful in production without a subscription?
>>180047213
Because they think we're soft and easy targets, even though we kill 90% of neuts who come to GE-8JV
I think Provi-bloc gets a lot of incoming content for similar reasons, though they have a lot less control over their space, which is how we were able to almost kill a carrier there with frigates once.
will i like this if i like stellaris? how p2w/grindy is it?
>>180051434
>will i like this 3rd person MMO if I like a strat game?
Dont bother, you'll quit in 2 weeks.
>>180051434
>will i like this if i like stellaris? how p2w/grindy is it?
Your punctuation and grammar indicates that you do not have the mental capacity for this game. Stick to something else.
>>180051808
edgy
you take yourself pretty seriously for a shitposter.
you could always act normal and answer my question instead of being a cunt.
>>180051889
Go back to whatever shithole you crawled out of my dude.
>>180051889
Fuck off you autist.
>>180051434
>will i like this if i like stellaris?
How should we know? It's not like the games are comparable.
>how p2w/grindy is it?
You can buy in-game currency with money. You have to make isk to buy ships/modules/skills/gametime. That's the only grind besides fixing fucked faction standings.
I'd rather this game die than have shitters like him.
>>180052381
Your wish is gonna come true very soon.
>Buzz Kill L4
>Few cruiser spawns, about 30 frigs
>Instakilling light drones
wtf is this fresh hell, shit took me like an hour to clear firing cruises at frigs ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>>180052501
Blame CCP for not adding walking in stations.
>>180052661
xXxdDdD
>forgot to bookmark WH exit
>56 jumps to home
>>180052780
>Not having a mobile depot and a probe launcher in every single solo WH ship you fly
>>180052780
>while you are scanning down sigs the owners of the hole you are in role your exit
FUG XD
Best ship for nullsec explo?
Im guessing the Astero is best for the possibility of taking down other explorers but I've been away for 2 years, so any fits?
>>180055652
I haven't updated this since I first got the skills to get a covops cloak. But it's more than serviceable. I've popped all manner of explo ships and stealth bombers. No one fits AB out of low so you can generally burn away from anything you can't fight.
>>180056247
my nigga
>>180056247
>long point
>AB
>meta eanm
>t1 rigs
>>180056741
>I haven't updated this since I first got the skills to get a covops cloak. But it's more than serviceable
Now we watch as you refuse to offer a fit because you're afraid of what strangers on the internet think about you despite being completely anonymous
>Want to fly Stratios
>Don't want to train lasers because only retards use them
>strat
>lasers
Are Sacrileges any good?
>mfw no space empire
Rate my fit
>beams
>t2 mwd
>medium cap batt
>t2 rigs
>longpoint
oneiros
Sometimes it feels as if everyone just sells plex and skips all the hours of PVE
>Frigates of EVE Online
>No pirate frigates
Dead thread
Dead game
Found a C3 with a LS static, the killboard is pretty dead and there are no online sticks. The only problem it seems is an astrahus and raitaru both owned by a corp that hasn't been active on zkillboard since late april (which was them losing a hauler filled with PI to a hisec gank) they only have 1 kill on a Helios 7 months ago.
Do I just take their hole? I plan on moving in with just myself and a few friends, would killing these structures be worth it or attract unwanted attention?
>>180068634
Because authorities wouldn't have detailed plans of pirate ships
>faction ships
are these T3 changes on pyfa yet?
Whats going to be the new meme fits?
>>180071328
I predict retarded massive tanks and overpowered tackle bonuses and everyone carrying around a depot and 50 rigs
>Corp gets triple wardecc'd and Wingspan is parked in our WH
>Decide to move out alone to lowsec until it all blows over
>Don't want to take multiple trips so I fly a T2 on my main and a gila on my SP farming alt
>The alt can't online over half the modules
>Fly through 3 gatecamps and no one dared agressing
>>180066051
>he doesnt make enough ISK through industry and market manipulation to pay for everything he would ever want
Be a good ratter and buy my ships pls
>>180066051
>Not dropping 100 every weekend and flying subcaps like Saudi Princes drive American sports cars
>giving wingspan attention
>>180071696
>tfw neet and can't afford to buy plex
controlled bursts
Should i resub?
Rogue drone faction ships when?
>>180074864
It wouldn't be a drone if you fly in it dummy.
>wanting another pirate faction that uses gallente skills
Mechanically:
Angel Cartel: More Minmatar than Gallente
Blood Raiders: More Amarr than Minmatar
Guristas: More Gallente than Caldari
Mordu's Legion: More Caldari than Gallente
Sansha's Nation: More Amarr than Caldari
Serpentis: More Gallente than Minmatar
Sisters of EVE: More Gallente than Amarr
Which means that Caldari -> Minmatar, Minmatar -> Caldari (Thukkers?), Amarr -> Gallente, Minmatar -> Amarr(Ammatar?), and Caldari -> Amarr(EOM?) have all yet to be pirate factions
Should I bother installing this game or am I way too late to the party ?
>>180076551
You physically can't be way too late for the party since you can always buy skills/money/influence in this game.
It's not exactly in its golden age though.
>>180076551
It's never too late, there are plenty of videos of people in 17 day old accounts getting kills. In addition, people will sell you their skill points if that's what you're looking for
>wanting another pirate faction when pirate ships on the whole have been pretty bad for the game
>Minmatar
>no minmatar caldari pirate ships
bumping with perfect design[
valimor legacy skin
real men fly 800mm plate
>>180087885
there is nothing wrong with 800mm plate
>>180071178
>Because authorities wouldn't have detailed plans of pirate ships
But they are all on the market anon
>>180051889
No you won't
>T3C skill loss isn't changing
>everyone cries about carrier Nerf
>I still trained for it
Btw I'm M-OEEB
>cucking boys out of hisec rogue swarm sites
>unironically being in highsec
your a cuck
>living in cuck-space
eog is cancer
>
>
>
>"anon join fleet"
>after 1hr of nothing, find out it's a structure bash/rep op
>leave fleet and go home
maybe I'll try another one in 6 months or so
>>180093249
>unironically joining PL
>mfw the system our C3 static leads to has content in it
>tfw they blueball us after they see our Legion/Guardian fleet on the hole
>tfw they come back and camp their end with multiple carriers
>let's form up a gay aids blob
>oh shit they brought an even gayer aids blob, better talk shit about them
>not batphoning bros and getting free carrier kills
>batphoning
>Point defense
>It's just a smartbomb
>>180095048
>he likes nigs
>>180099723
>and furries
>>180103260
Who are you quoting?
Is there ore +10% in ore anom in -0.7 ?
>free ore
Rule 34 on CCP Seagull pls. Its important to my internets.
>>180103535
>(((You)))
oneiros
>Join fleet despite not having done so in several months
>Get primaried first
Now I remember why I don't join fleets.
>>180076020
>gurista
>caldari hulls
>more gallente
And Sansha Kuwakei was a Caldari.
>>179969253
So how's the game population?
Im pretty much new, looking for a space game where i can cruise around, gave some fights and such, is this that type of game?
Overall the game looks gorgeous but gameplay wise im still a bit confused
>>180113497
yes
>>180052661
>spend literally hours crafting a perfect waifu
>that no one will ever see and no reason other than occasionally fapping to the character creator
I wouldn't mind walking in stations. As long as you can still do everything through the menus. Might be nicer than ship spinning for idling.
>fapping to the character creator
>>180113497
The game peaks at around 35,000 and has lows of around 17,000.
You can find good fights as long as you know where to find them. Otherwise, a lot of systems are pretty barren.
>>180113957
Sue me.
I also got my whole roam killed when I accidentally jammed someone the FC told us not to engage.
I'm every guy in your alliance. Your FC. Your wingman. They guy watching your back.
>1.5b plex
>>180115713
2.855m*500 != 1.5b
>>180115713
>put off buying plex until after dinner
>1.75b
>go brush teeth
>come back
>1.9b
I miss when skill injectors were 600mil
>>180118261
I miss when skill injectors didn't exist
>implying there's anything wrong with them
>>180119727
>ccp always take a long time to balance fotm shit
>injectors allow everyone to get into them asap
>fotm shit is now much more of a problem because it's everywhere immediately
>ccp still take ages to balance them regardless of the much more immediate problem
>there's nothing wrong with them dood :^)
>broken shit was fine before because some people weren't trained into it
kys honestly mate
where did I say it was fine before? injectors just made it worse
Anyone use any mining bots? (don't lie and say you don't, faggot)
Which is the best? I've heard good things about Eve Pilot
how the fuck am i even supposed to make isk?
i've been playing for over a month and i still don't have over 15m isk
no one will let me join their corp and when i got accepted for pandemic legion i was ganked on the way there and lost everything i had.
should i just quit? i can't do a fucking thing.
>hey guys ccp here, tell us about ur bots :)
>>180122050
also is it possible to change a name? i called my main octavia omega before i upgraded to an omega license and now the name is just stupid.
also the one corp i did join has one active player and the rest of the 80+ corps are alts
>>180122050
pandemic legion?
>>180122103
You think CCP gives a shit? They're selling eve asap.
I want a mining bot because mining is under powered and boring as fuck.
>>180122313
please don't shitpost
>>180122307
yeah that huge newbro corp
they gave me a few ships, a few skillbooks and it was great but every time i left their system i was ganked and lost my stuff.
and when i was on my way to the citadel the first time i brought all my stuff i got ganked.
they're at war with so many people and i can't do pvp for shit.
>>180122374
What are you talking about?
They ARE selling eve.
>>180122458
>pandemic legion
>huge newbro corp
>>180122731
>haha u got it confused wit sumfin else lamayo
pandemic horde, happy now, cmdr autismo?
what did he mean by this
>No one from /dog/ is in PL
God, no wonder everyone here is bad at the game
When does it become more profitable to refine ore as opposed to just selling ore?
>>180124137
if you're in busy highsec then probably not before maxed skills
>>180124137
When the minerals you get from refinement exceeds the value of the ore that's being refined.
If your Corp isn't shit, there are people in it who will refine your ore for super cheap or for free. Or they'll just buy the pure ore for a good amount because they have perfect refinement skills
>>180124653
>>180124739
Thanks heaps for the information!
>>180062095
god dam what an shitfit
>>180059510
Depends. It only gets 5 mids and 5 lows, 5 lows isn't a lot of lows for tank + damage mods. the 5 mids really helps with utility but the thing also has 6 highs, 5 launchers and one USELESS fucking utility
IMO that useless utility highslot needs to get pushed to a lowslot.
>>180084667
I see a velociraptor squatting to take a shit.
>>180123468
Is this a bait?Because you're objectively wrong
>>180125832
So if you want good DPS, you have to shield tank it?
Thalia
>>180122050
You can set your clone remotely to the station in their staging, self destruct and end up in the system. Also you can get to the system manually, if you stop being bad and learn how this game works. Use some fast ship, like a frigate with nanofibers/inertial stabilizers in lows. And don't go through high sec -> null sec gate, it's always camped.They have a jump bridge in 93PI, go through low sec.Don't move all your shit through null sec in a hauler, unless you're absolutely sure you know what you're doing.
>>180129690
You have to gimp tank, using one low on a BCS only leaves you 4 slots for tank
>>180131107
>>180129690
dual armor rep sacs are great
>>180131239
oh yea those are always good because of the resist bonuses and T2 resist profile tanks for days
>>180125832
you're terrible at eve
>>180129690
do not shield tank a sacrilege ever
Sacs are great in wolf-rayets. Still not as good as Legions, but good if you're still training into one.
>>180132058
>you're bad because you point out the flaws in a ship
and you must think 4 slots is enough for a shield tank
>>180132284
it's not a flaw in the ship faggot it's fine
>>180132196
neat, but instead of a TP I'd go with either a missile guidance computer for range.
>>180132374
>its not a flaw to only have 5 lows for tank and damage
>>180132432
>durr it doesn't have 8 lows that's a flaw
>this in-built stackless eanm means nothing to me
stop
>>180132550
>8 lows
I didn't say that faggot, I said moving the useless utility highslot to a lowslot would be far better.
>stackless EANM
what?
>>180132539
>575
thats it?
>>180132660
a resist bonus is better than a free lowslot with an eanm in it shitter
>wow it doesn't have 900dps what a shit
>>180132762
>resist bonus is better than a free lowslot
You make it out like its losing its resist bonus, I never fucking said that.
A resist bonus plus an extra EANM in that 6th low would be far better
>>180132839
no, I never said that. I'm saying you're shit at eve, the resist bonus means its tank is about 1 slot stronger than on other hacs, and you can get it comparable to a 6 lowslot thing. plus its fitting and dronebay are generous, and the utility high is nice. there's just nothing to complain about with the sacrilege unless you're retarded and shit at eve
>/dog/
>understanding game
pick one
>>180132826
>expect everyone to be a w-space shitter
>the resist bonus is really an EANM
who fucking cares? no one takes that into account as some kind of free EANM. I'll just add another eanm. Its the same as the maller, I'm not magically going to put LESS tank mods because I have a resist bonus
>you get a free lowslot EANM because you have a resist mod
>>180133141
you're complaining that your ship doesn't have enough slots for the dps or tank you want, but it has a bonus that increases the amount of tank it has. but because you're retarded, the tank you get from bonuses doesn't count or something so you'd prefer to pretend it doesn't exist and complain about slot layouts
>>180133113
???
>>180133353
>dps or tank
it doesn't
5 lows only gives you a DCU, 1600 plate 2 resist mods and one damage mod
Other ships get far more lows for the best of both worlds. An eagle gets 6 mids most of which gets used for tank then all the lows are filled with damage mods.
Sure it gets the same resist bonus in shields as the sacrilege does in armor but that doesn't magically supplement the usefulness of a lowslot.
>all the lows are filled with damage mods
stop posting
>>180133690
>buffer fleet trash
opinion discarded
>fitting tank when ECM is in the game
>that doesn't count because I said so
>choosing anything other than Caldari
>2289
>mfw I live in a wolf-rayet and can get 200k EHP and 1k DPS out of a Legion.
>missile legions
Even with 1 BCU the sac does 560 dps with drones
>>180134337
other HAC's are doing way more. And thats 560 shit paper DPS with HAMs that apply like ass
>>180134337
thats all?
>Talking in Thera local
>>180134413
>that apply like ass
you've got room for a painter and a web, you're applying fine vs other cruisers.
What other hacs are doing WAY more?
>>180134546
Ishtar, Deimos, eagle, Cerb
All because have more lows for more damage mods
Been lurking on posts about this game for quite some time. Tried the free trial while drunk and crashed ship in bay, everyone says its not possible, but I was piss drunk. raged and uninstalled it.
I want to play a good MMO but how hard is it to get into this late in the game?
Please help, I keep feeling the urge to play WoW again...
>>180134786
You weren't playing EVE. You must've been playing some other game but you were so drunk you thought it was EVE.
>>180133690
>Sure it gets the same resist bonus in shields as the sacrilege does in armor but that doesn't magically supplement the usefulness of a lowslot.
yes it does retard
>>180136371
Then that means the damage bonus supplements the use of damage mods in the same regard you stupid fuck
>>180122050
Fit your races exploration ship with an expanded launcher plus probes, warpcore stablisers, relic and data analyzers, a micro warp drive and afterburner. Explore Wormholes and Nullsec for relic and data sites. With one decent relic site you can pay for your ship ten times over.
Read up on the wormholing and exploration techniques used, ask for tips in EVE-Scout public channel (keep newbie questions to help, mind), and prepare to lose a few ships.
Exploration is such a good activity to learn as a new player because it pits you in the middle of pretty much most playstyles. You experience so much more than when sat on a belt mining or spinning ships in station.
>For over nearly half a decade CCP has refused to drag some of the relic loot spawns over into the data loot spawns
>tfw you live in the south and the sansha's nation and serpentis relic sites are about to be swapped
oneiros
>>180141931
>mfw I live in Fountain and we're about to get really good relic sites
>tfw you live in the south and you get one good fight that isn't just chasing fags in instawarp ships around for 3 hours but then PL fucks off to who knows where
>tfw you live in the north and all you ever fight is rats
>tfw you live in hisec and all you ever fight is rocks
>tfw you live
>>180152042
Have you considered not being a fag?
>tfw afk mining in an Orca in a 0.9, not even having to deal with npc rats
Maximum comfy
>>180134786
>Too drunk/uncoordinated to pilot a ship
>Uninstalls EVE
>>180152613
There are still rats in 0.9
>>180153875
No there aren't. Rats don't show up in asteroid belts in 1.0 or 0.9s.
What is the likelihood that I can find a boyfriend by playing this game?
>>180155102
If your standards are anywhere above rock bottom, then low.
>>180152613
>12m hour
why do people fly enyos?
>35mil+ frigate guaranteed to die against any scramkite t1 frigate
What's FW like for getting fights? Played for 2 years about 3 years ago roaming in a Taranis killing little baddie fleet tacklers.
Havn't trained for these new destroyers yet they look like fun
>"FC I'm getting primaried by a Bellicose"
>>180123468
>>180158224
On weekends its all blobs and 300m blinged vigil fleet issues but on weekdays and the quiet times its great for good fights
initiated compact warp scrambler
>>180158224
i fly a lot of t1 frigs looking for fights
you can still find them but it can sometimes take a while to find anything engageable
sometimes you jump into a lowsec system and it's
garmur daredevil garmur firetail dramiel 4 griffins comet garmur dramiel garmur
>Accept 800m collateral public courier contract
>Look in box
>1.2b worth of items
>Consider just failing the contract and taking it
>Have never failed a courier contract before and don't want to tarnish my record
>Deliver it
Just gave up 400m for a stupid sense of personal pride, AMA.
>ama
is TEST leaking again?
>>180162084
ur mom is leaking xd
I'm convinced only bad/lazy PVP players whine about PVE. They want their ganks served to them on a silver platter, they want to wreck your dreams without risking theirs. They want to blow up your expensive ships and then cry when you replace them by ratting or mining for several hours. They want content, but they don't want those who provide it to have any defensive measures against them.
People like to brag about carebear salt, but it seems most of the crying comes from the PVP crowd.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63009857/
How do these people manage to breathe /dog/?
With their wallet.
>>180162883
>no bridge
>almost no tank
>cruise missiles
>died to a cruiser and a frigate
Please don't tell me he was using it for something stupid like ratting.
>want to rat
>neut in local
>close eyes, pass out
>wake up
>about to undock
>thera wormhole in system
>local
>changing system is hard
Glorious w-space master race, dirty k-space peasants
scorpion navy issue
are incursions still good?
How would people react if CCP had a gay pride event in game?
There already is. It's called AT
>>180168079
Doomchinchilla would show up in a rorqual named "Lol dead gays"
Delete highsec when?
When the fuck did /dog/ become filled with PVE retards and literal mouthbreathers who can't fit a ship if their virginity depended on it.
It feels so weird being better than all of you
>full rack of bulkheads
>scram web
>elite pvp
>>180172182
I am better than you though
>>180172484
I wish you were, I wish some of you were, but you're not
>>180172608
way better than you
Sure ok
>implying there's anything wrong with fucking with nullbears
>>180175901
what's this about
>>180176909
Lussy Lou jammed a solo moa with his falcon alt on stream for shits a giggles. A reddit pubbie got mad and tried to pull the pitchfork-grabbing card.
>falcon alt
>2017
kys lussy
Destructible sovnull stargates when?
I want to fuck with nullbabbies by forcing them to live in pseudo-w-space.
>>180177415
yeah I'm sure making it impossible for attackers to get into their space would really bother them
>tfw you accidentally train an amarr skill
>have a character in horde
>fit up an XLASB VNI
>fly around drone sites in busy areas
>collect kills from people who expect ratting fit
very satisfying, i'd recommend it
>XLASB VNI
yes and you use blue pill and tank a shitton
>I can't armour tank I need my 6 DDAs
Battle venture
>>180182878
>k-space shitters who think Amarr are shit
Join us here in w-space, there are no blobs, no sov, no ADMs to keep high, and fights are more fun.
>w-space
>fights
>>180162364
>be oldfag PVP player
>make a few hundred billion farming pre nerf high class WHs, abusing FW lvl4s or lvl5 missions back when LP values were still high
>multiply it with trade and industry
>reinvest it all into SP farms
>don't need to make Isk ever again
>all accounts are free
>'already replaced' meme is real
>PVE IS TOO EASY AND RISKFREE
>remove local
>intel channels should be against the EULA
>these VNIs shouldn't be able to just dock when i roll through in my 1b orthrus
>i make 50b/month without even playing the game but scrubs making 150m/h carrier ratting is broken
>once we have removed all ways to make more than 20m isk/h people will become less risk averse and feed us more kills
>damage caps and timezone tanking are what is killing EVE
>i should be able to blow up every non thera station and everything in it with my titanblob
>jump fatigue was a mistake and needs to be removed
>small groups will thrive and nullsec will be more fun once you can't make any isk there
>people that don't want to lose all their stuff because they went afk for 2 days should live in high sec
>if you have to PVE to replace ships you're a poor and don't belong in null
more like if you have to pve to replace ships you are shit at pvp
never ever
Why is armour barghest a thing?
>>180190605
because the slot layout is stupid and that tackle bonus pushes it even more toward armour
>>180190418
>never ever
what?
>>180190418
It'll be available in the Project Discovery store eventually.
>>180191884
really? Have many points there and high level
>>180192432
they didn't say
>>180190418
what ship?
bellicose fleet issue
>>180071573
.......
>>180185617
>>intel channels should be against the EULA
What?
AHAHAHAHAHA
>autistic spreadsheet fags
>>180185617
>plex is 1.5 bill
Thats whats wrong.
>>180195750
because of the MCT sale, everyone is converting plex into MCT
>>180162364
The only people who claim such are actual null dwellers. People from low literally give zero fucks.
>>180122050
>15m
>1 month
Dude. Go to mission hubs, scan those battleships/t3's/marauders and steal/salvage their loots. Blow the MTUs too.
Thats like the mandatory starting activity. Fuck corps and alliances. HUD is already too crowded for a new chat channel (its all you get anyway).
Rate
>>180195750
>27
>21
What did he mean by this?
>>180196579
No shit. When was the last time a SC/Snuff/PM lvl5 carrier died? Why isn't anyone ganking these LSH PVE Titans? How many missions does it take to replace your alt's FW lvl4 ship (hint it's 1)? What percentage of ''''''lowsec''''' players doesn't have a bunch of industry alt in highsec?
Lowsec still has almost risk free super ratting Isk/h and it used to be a lot higher.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63038595/
>>180197289
primary 27 secondary 21 is best for maximizing sp/hour
>>180197764
That guy is way past the point of caring about losing a few bil, he's a multi trillionaire.
>>180158224
Find a way to successfully pwn comets and you will be gold.
I sucked at it because I used trashers and coraxes but if you use dragoons and algos you will do just fine (only small ships with projection vs kiters and brawlers).
>I think
>algos
great way to get no fights
>>180200261
it's all about the dual web no scram sensor booster 280mm thrasher
>not mwd dual web
>mwd
Love this meme.
does EvE Online have its own abstract merchant?
>>180200384
They will actually leave the area because many have buffer. Happened to me in the past. Trasher is shit for solo work.
>>180202643
>oneiros xD
>TQ
>Not playing on Serenity
>lowsec niggers pretending they're not the biggest krabs in all of EVE
>we were welping 2B Machs and Vindicators with HG Slaves when 1B was still worth something but lowsec income is bad :^))))
>PL didn't start as a lowsec group and somehow still got richer than old NC
>the first mothership wasn't owned by some 10 man lowsec pirate corp
>noone ever farmed the Isk to buy a Titan in a week of running FW LVL4s in lowsec
>lowsec groups don't have the biggest per capita supercap ownership
>we're rich as fuck and all plex our 10 accounts because we're that good at EVE, goy
>it has nothing to do with the fact that we live in zero maintenance space that enables even the biggest shitter to make 300-1b Isk/h
>oh and you can't kick us out because of NPC stations and no bubbles
>being a chink commie
>>180207105
>>lowsec niggers pretending they're not the biggest krabs in all of EVE
how can they? lowsec is the worst for PVE
>>180207239
t. level 5 runner who owns 7 nyxes
>>180207475
Thats literally the only activity next to level 4 FW missions in lowsec. L5 missions are impossible otherwise without a 12 billion isk investment
>nyx
you use regular thannies
Lowsec doesn't have anything in terms of mining or ratting like high or null does.
>if you pretend all the broken and overpowered things don't exist, there's literally nothing
>>180207720
It doesn't make up a significant portion of the economy at all. The LP made doesn't make up a fraction of the total LP/isk market. So few people run L5 missions its not even on CCP's radar for things they're even looking at. making money in null is far better because its far safer, far easier and requires far less start up cost. All the better its straight easy isk.
>It's okay that there's a way to make 1t/h if only one person is doing it
>buying 4+ rorqs or a ratting super is cheaper than having carriers in 4-6 systems
>converting LP is hard
>implying people actually go after the lvl5 supers in that bugged constellation
>implying people go after lvl5 carriers when they're too busy running lvl5s themselves
>>180208031
by comparison, no one is doing L5 missions, thats how mucn money null and highsec produce
>>180208429
>cheating is ok as long as I do it xD
>1t/h
>>180208840
>cheating
how is L5's cheating?
Here's a leak from CSM: blitzing missions is an exploit and soon will be a bannable offense.
>>180208965
they're just as safe as carrier ratting. running l5s should require sieged marauders or spidertanking rattlesnakes, they shouldn't be a license to print risk free isk.
you have to be very lucky and persistent to catch a l5 runner who knows what he's doing, you shouldn't need to use login traps and max skill virtue probers just to shut down a mission runner
>>180209316
My dad works for CCP and he said you're lying.
>Take a year break
>Forget everything about the game
>Login
I have billions of crap and I have no idea where to start. Not to mention I left my main in nullsec in a corp that has now died. Where do I even begin..
Level 5s are an isk sink. So they're good for the game.
>>180209639
contract everthing to Zira Zira
>>180202643
Kys it's fine
>>180209605
>running l5s should require sieged marauders
You can't even do them in marauders, the neuts in many of the missions are so high you can't fucking tank it ever. These missions were designed to be done by fleets but the neuts and rats hit for so hard its fucking impossible. Also the reason why they're so blitzable is because you ONLY do the missions where its like "kill this" and nothing else.
>spider tanked rattlesnakes
can't do them either, again neuts are way too strong.
>max skill virtue prober
you don't need that at all. Any combat prober can catch them. Carriers use One ECCM because that'll stop a prober from probing from 16au but they can still be easily scanned down at 8au because a carrier's sig is so fuck huge now.
>>180209605
>you have to be very lucky and persistent to catch a l5 runner who knows what he's doing, you shouldn't need to use login traps and max skill virtue probers just to shut down a mission runner
You don't hunt carriers at all if you think you need a virtue prober to scan down carriers.
>>180209605
I dont know much about it but do they use ECCM to mask the sig through sensor strength? Does this tactic still work in the game?
>>180211597
>the fighters themselves
nvm
it does
>>180210459
A rail cormorant/catalyst is better at long range. A coercer at all ranges. Algos and dragoon are more versatile and tougher. Even a missile corax/talwar rivals it with arties. The ship is ridiculous weak. It only shines in small gang due to alpha (terrifying gate camp blobs might I add).
>>180210605
>>180210537
no l5 carrier has died in the last 2 months
>>180211597
it does
but the ECCM only helps against getting probed at 16au
>>180212171
Who fucking cares no one has hunted them. The only 2 places in the game they're done are these two side pockets near ostingele and Amamake. Two of relatively isolated areas. This isn't like null where you can find carrier ratting in literally every part of nullsec. This is shit ONLY done in 2 exclusive spots
>>180212171
maybe its because its only done in a few places around the galaxy and so few people actually do it
>>180212008
2k alpha is huge, and 3 mids is way better than 2
>>180212582
Most of the time you face around 5.5 - 6k plus reps. Also arties have kind of chaotic damage. Some volleys are good, others shit. Given thats a destroyer, if you are not an insta lock build, kiters will slip. If they have td its game over.
Projectile weapons need an urgent buff.
>>180212582
>2k
Within optimal that is
>the reason they don't die isn't that l5s are 99% risk free
>it's just that no one wants to kill carriers :^)
>>180212896
get good desu
10% reduction in Energy Turret capacitor use
>You will never have a railgun cap usage bonus
Just found my first limited sleeper cache, wat do?
>tfw you will never camp Hagilur in your railgun Moros
>>180216024
K so that wasn't too hard, thats what every exploration site should be like
>>180217573
The standard and superior ones have more opportunities for instantly losing your astero
Void bombs are removed from the game.
How does the meta change?
>>180219421
Are you talking about citadel guided void bombs
>>180219421
void bombs are fine, they just need to work like missiles and take sig radius into account
How long does this take?
just make them unguided desu
Oneiros
>>180226408
man I wish this thing wasn't so shit
>you should die even though you took all steps to not die
>mfw elite pvpers are this desperate
>being engaged in pvp means dying
>>180227678
>tfw the only step required to not die is booting up the intel tracker program and listening to its alarm
or have eyes
>not having a cloaky alt in every single system
I thought you guys were good at this game.
I'm good. That's why I don't need autism crutches like alts.
Whats peoples opinion on the 50% warp speed for proteus/tengu, and plain speed bonus for loki/legion? If proteus are going to have frigate speed now, I think I'll have to bring my assault frigate to fleets because I can't bring neither.
>>180232087
>t3fags give themselves warp bonus so they can swap hyperspatial rigs for max tank
realy makes you think
>>180232642
Can smuggle expensive shit between jita and amarr at twice the speed now man wtf ccp.
>>180234118
>now
You know warp speed subsystems already exist, right?
Anyone have scans of the frigates of EVE book? Can someone who owns it at least show me the Griffin page?
so are they fixing t3cs or not
Can someone upload epub files of the EVE novels? They're out as ebook but you faggots haven't shared them with the world.
>>180236965
No. They will change, but you must protect their autism.
>>180237262
Only have templar one.
https://mega.nz/#F!7RwUxDjL!WlFZXU-X19UAoTi9ZgD7oA
>>180237262
I bought a hard copy like a good little customer.
>>180237618
thanks
>>180236965
Depends on what you consider "fix".
I've made a new alt on an old account of mine, but I wanna refer a new account. Can i delete the character and remake it if I want the name?
Does Frigates of EVE have T2 frigs as well, or just T1?
I'm really curious how stealth bombers fit all those torps in them.
>>180239252
yes, just gotta wait out the character deletion timer
Arbitrator
plate rep
>>180224184
>>180119947
>ccp always take a long time to balance fotm shit
I think that is the real problem.
oneiros
>>180250625
let the summer slump happen
Why can't CCP just undo the Aegis expansion? Everything since then has been cancer.
>but Phoebe is where the cancer begun
Shut your whore mouth. Phoebe made sov actually doable for a couple of months before Aegis ruined everything again.
Is stratios better with active or buffer tank? Can anyone post a good ratter hunting fit?
>tfw C3 ratting in a Myrm is the comfiest 120m per hour iv ever made
>GUYS GET IN RESPONSE FLEET AGAINST THE NEUTS
>nvm standing down they got away
Is all-out still alive and is it worth joining them?
>all-out
>dead
Goddamnit I was hoping to infiltrate them with an alpha and use it to find a way to let my stealth bomber-using main into their hole so I could slaughter their precious gnosis I could find.
>>180255212
There's a dude who stole a-o's name and logo and shills his alpha corp here. Infiltrate him.
>gank an industrial or a site runner
>all they do is try to run away, not even lock anyone back
>GF in local
It makes the phrase hollow as fuck. Whats the point? Did the Iteron really give you a good fight?
>>180256506
It measn get fucked.
>play for free
>game time
can someone explain what they meant by this?
FW Corp reccomendations? I just want fights the LP comes secondary, I'm guessing Caldari by the looks of things will get me the most fights
>>180256763
never played eve before, kinda interested but whats the whole game time thing about?
>>180256836
You can pay sub with ingame money, but I wouldn't recommend it now because the game economy is going full retard these days.
>>180256752
>>180256836
There are two account states, alpha and omega. Alphas have some serious restrictions, omegas don't have any, and your account is alpha unless you pay money/with ingame items that are getting more expensive by the day.
>>180256904
>>180256919
ah ty lads
>>180252223
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62965563/
Anyone here in Horde Vanguard?
Wow half of these fucking skins ....
How can you actually make a skin that looks worse than the base paint? CCPlease.
>>180256904
>the game economy is going full retard
t. idiot who has no idea how an economy functions
PLEX was a mistake.
>>180260015
>pls stop pointing out the game is going to shit, let's talk more about alphas and skins
>t. ccp
Fuck of you ccpdf.
>>180260065
Umm, no.
>>180260015
In all seriousness doesn't EVE have a problem since it never adjusts the amount of money you can earn by certain tasks like mission grinding and so forth? Incomes around the world are steadily increasing year by year and thus there will be higher demand for plex which in turn increases the ISK price, but only a limited amount of ingame activity earnings grow in accord with real world income increases like pvp which is dependent on how much people are willing to spend on their ships. You don't get more isk for missions from year to year which renders more and more activities obsolete as years go by and spending power around the world increases which devalues isk.
>>180261471
>Incomes around the world are steadily increasing year by year
This is simply not true for most of the world. Also, you're assuming that provided a player has enough cash, he will definitely start spending it on PLEX and gametime to enhance his EVE experience, which is isn't generally the case for veteran players. I think the actual problem here is that the direction of this game isn't good, CCP are shit at fixing the real issues and therefore the playerbase is slowly quitting. ISK isn't as valuable anymore, as there is nothing exciting to spend it on.
>>180252223
Shield stratios is better than armor because you can actually fit damage mods with shield tanks. 5 lows on the strap isn't enough for armor tanking and damage. You'll almost always be better for shield because the stratios is actually moderately fast and using armor would just ruin it
Its STILL in fucking VIP? What did they do? Explode a tac nuke in their offices or something?
>>180263112
What's in vip?
>>180263249
premium, you need to pay like 5buck per month
>>180263017
don't give advice about things you don't understand please
>>180264041
Everyone uses shield stratios because they're objectively better
>>180265374
i've never seen a shield stratios ever
>>180265540
Youve never logged in ever
>>180265567
https://zkillboard.com/ship/33470/losses/
find me a shield stratios on the first page
>it doesn't count unless it shows up on zkillboard first page
They don't die as often because they're so good
>>180265736
xD good one m80
nice caplife, nice tank
>le so fast i have to have 6ddas and 4 nanos if it doesnt go 4k its bad le opinion of shitter xdd
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63044439/
>>180265736
>no web or low tank with shit resists
Yeah, fuck off retard.
Another shitter
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63042424/
>>180265949
>50MN Microwarpdrive II
>no neuts, no cap
kek
What's a good ship to fit oversized shit on that doesn't have bonuses towards fitting oversized weapons?
>>180266061
T2 MWD only reduces your capacitor size by 15% instead of 25%, so some people, especially Amarr shitters, prefer them.
>>180266125
>not using cap battery instead
baka
>>180266125
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58377016/
T2 MWD is bad. Use restrained.
>>180261471
>ties to real world income projections
Faggot, not only did CCP increased Plex prices, by dividing it into smaller portions it also allows more investors/competition in the market. Add cancer null cap fags and cancer INC fags and you got yourself a dead game.
>1.5 bill
>the game was never worth a damn sub
>>180265374
you dont actually know what you're talking about buddy t. #1 provi menace
Is recruiting a group of complete newbies into my (currently) one-man corp, taking them out to Great Wildlands, and basing the corp out of an Astrahus a terrible idea?
Assuming we'll go raiding the nearby sovnull alliances for content every few days.
>>180266125
>T2 MWD only reduces your capacitor size by 15% instead of 25%, so some people, especially Amarr shitters, prefer them.
But they use more cap besides which is why they're shit. It's almost always better to use a quad-core restrained or a gas enduring. T2 is never worth it. The speed bonus is negligible too
>>180266683
Provi is shit
>>180266858
it's probably better for brawling where you only use it to get into range
>>180266936
Not really. Like I said the speed bonus is negligible, it's literally like 5m/s on the cruiser level
>>180266905
I know
>>180266842
>inb4 Fraternity drops capitals on your frigate roam
>>180267003
I was thinking about the max cap penalty
>>180267760
Yea but it uses extra capacitor. Either way the restrained version is better
>>180267910
yeah but you're only using like 1 cycle before you're in range and scrammed
>>180268080
>scrammed
>implying stratios is for brawling
It's time to stop posting.
>shields are like clothes, they must come off
>armour is like a dick, it does its job and gets hard
>structure is like a condom: once you're in it, you're fucked
t. Amarr shitters
>>180268080
If that's the case then why use the t2?
>>180268317
again, youre one of those people who doesnt know what he's talking about cunt
>>180268080
wut
>>180268608
Enlighten me, then. What the fuck it is you're doing with a Stratios vessel if not staying within point range until the enemy is dead by drones on your fucking screen? There is absolutely no reason to go get scrammed like an idiot with a ship with this low a tank.
>>180268360
t. Caldari shitters
>>180268727
brawling at 0 with lots of neuts and two medium armour reps
>implying there is only one viable stratios fit
https://youtu.be/ckC4GhJoZxc?t=1206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5m0UJCs34I
>>180268943
Again, why the fuck would you commit into scram range? The neuts have 13k optimal and your faction web is like 14k without heat.
>>180269226
>>180268943
dont listen to this retard, give me a few min to find the fit and ill enlighten you
Just fit a medium ancil you autist. Armor tank doesn't mean plates and trimarks you fag.
>>180270862
So what is a reasonable/expected tank number for a T2/faction cruiser on average?
I think my perception is really skewed, because I feel undertanked in just about everything I fly with active tank.
>>180270389
2 of these tanks snakes easy
anything below is an easy solo.
If you're going for only vnis/ishtar u can double hardener whatever drone theyll be shooting.
My brain is slow today so just ask me shit if u want 2 know
>>180271294
Jesus christ that's awful
>>180272130
Only because you don't understand it. I can link you lots of killmails with it if you want
>>180272579
Please do.
>I can kill an afk vni, i'm good
>>180272714
>>180272617
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003725/201705011500/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61968970/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61966772/
How many more do u want?
>>180272847
gratz dude you can kill ratters 2v1, really epic man, nice one!
anyone can kill faggots without any tackle
>>180272971
Go do it then. You're only saying this because you don't know the effort that goes in to this. Go look at my recent kills.
>>180272957
The stratios isnt well suited to fight anything other than hebrews. Read above
>>180272847
Can you fight anything other than a ratter with this? I don't see any advantages over using an interceptor and proper pvp ships desu, and harrassing ratters is only fun when they form up to kill or chase you away and you wreck the response fleet.
>effort
>>180273310
Nope. It's sole purpose is to kill jews. You could use ceptors and real ships but then you are more easily camped in, and in Provi when they form, they blob you hard.
But thank god they're retards.
>>180273180
>The stratios isnt well suited to fight anything other than hebrews
wrong, try again shitter
>>180273623
Well suited doesnt mean impossible, but what it does best is israelite removal
>>180273751
Does anyone actually jew these days? I thought everyone is in HS, doing to stellar event.
>>180273838
https://zkillboard.com/character/93487039/
take a look yourself
>xhe's not even in Wilderness
why do any of you even log in?
>a thing that can't shoot back
>a thing that can't shoot back
>a thing that can't shoot back
>a thing that can't shoot back
wow very leet much skill xdd
>>180274296
trust me they can shoot back
>>180273934
I guess I should give up on wspace and move into null. I thought popping in from highsec would be easy way to kill guys in sites, but in two weeks, all I found was empty space or too many people to take on solo.
>>180274427
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Delve#npc24
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Providence#npc24
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#npc24
plenty of jews in the world
oneiros
Is recruiting a group of complete newbies into my (currently) one-man corp, taking them out to Great Wildlands, and basing the corp out of an Astrahus a terrible idea?
Assuming we'll go raiding the nearby sovnull alliances for content every few days.
Reposting because nobody responded to the first post.
>>180277023
you're probably too bad to pull off what u want to do.
Also, locals might shoot your astra as soon as it anchors
>>180277023
sure why not
>>180277023
whats your ingame name?
>>180224184
Features cost too much money.
t1 frigs are gay trash
no you are
I am so bored I am gonna do the Penumbra arc... what is wrong with me. Why dont I go play another game?
>>180279645
What is the Penumbra arc?
>>180280107
Its one of the "epic" mission sequences you can do in (mostly) highsec. Its just few hours of hauling with some combat missions thrown in.
But its "epic".
>highsec
at least do the nullsec ones faggot
>>180280498
I think there are some hauling parts in NS, I havent done it in long time. But not like I care, yo niggas aint gonna catch / smartbomb me anyway.
>>180280598
Do you have any fucking idea about how incredibly empty nullsec is?
Outside of staging systems and alliances with a lot of members and not much space, it's a fucking wasteland. Even Catch and Providence, which are full of active alliances, have vast swaths of empty space most of the time.
>>180281529
Not really, I lived in wormholes until like 14 days ago.
Is it really this bad? I thought everyone is ratting in ther happily.
>>180281820
Most space is left empty, because nullbears would rather rat/mine as a group, hiding under their precious capital umbrella, and capital umbrellas usually leave large areas of a region uncovered. Sure, you'll get the occasional roaming fleet, explorer or gatecamp out there, but roaming fleets can be avoided, gatecamps are easily escaped, and explorers aren't much threat to a combat-capable ship.
The sole exception to this is the Drone Regions, which are filled with stupid people and RMTers.
This shit is why I'm currently trying to move to w-space.
>>180282117
W-space is just as dead, but you can never be sure, so you're always paranoid and think it isn't empty.
>>180282117
After 5k sigs resolved, bookmarked, entered into the tripwire and pressing dscan for the millionth time .... You might change your tune. Wormholes are busywork central, but yeah, trying them out aint a bad idea. You might get in a decent corp.
>>180282296
>but you can never be sure, so you're always paranoid and think it isn't empty.
It's not about paranoia. In w-space, the chance of a WH full of aggressive badmen appearing is pretty high.
>>180280383
>retards that think epic means awesome or action-packed
ep·ic
ˈepik/
noun
noun: epic; plural noun: epics
1.
a long poem, typically one derived from ancient oral tradition, narrating the deeds and adventures of heroic or legendary figures or the history of a nation.
>>180283720
informal
particularly impressive or remarkable.
>>180284537
Even if you accept that as an alternate definition then >>180280383 is still criticizing the use of the original definition in favor of an alternate, informal one, which is equally retarded. Do you also prefer when people use literally to mean figuratively?
>>180283720
Not this shit again. I swear thats like the "I am going show him!" stock response when someone mentions those arcs are fucking awful.
Not having this discussion again. Its boring and its shit, thats all I have to say about it.
wwhen wwill rramadam eend?
>>180283006
That really, really depends on the timezone you're active in. Also there aren't many active groups anymore.
>>180282117
I'd be cool if alliances just owned a single or so constellation that they patrol and keep active, rather than whole regions worth of wastelands. How cool would it be to have actual industrial corps, combat corps, logistic corps, etc, all within a close area and functioning like the highsec NPC variants? Expand into new systems as required, not h
Maybe I should look into sovereign mechanics; how hard could it actually be to take a system or two from a holding alliance?
>>180286371
Taking it is not that hard, keeping it any length of time is.
I think it would be cool if you got podded in game you died in real life.
>>180286118
WHs are active? When?
/eog/ I left this game for 6 month. The game is calling me to go back I just can't fucking do it.
Mining gives you a surefire way to get cash. But it is boring as hell. Ratting isn't fun either. Then there is that guy with carrier that can rake billions and you'll just sit there with a "noob" pack handout and tirelessly farm.
Then when you want to go for some solo gudfites, you can't do shit either. I tried all the fits and I still can't git gud. It was a frustrating experience to learn. Is it my skills? Is it because I didn't use the T2 stuff? Is my ship shit? Did I traverse correctly?
And there I am, stuck playing logi because it is probably fun to save people. Or play as another F1 monkey and align until something wrong wiped everyone off after the FC raged on comms. Then going through the horrendous mumble interface to get in another fleet and hear another shitshow edgy discussion.
It's boring as fuck. The only best enjoyment was hauling stuff and put on some good tunes, but this whole thing is dumb. The players experience is fun to listen to, but experiencing it yourself is nowhere near enjoyable.
>overview on the right side of the screen
>I move all the ui around for no reason because I'm elite
Abbadon Kador SKIN (Permanent)
>>180288785
It's scientific fact that having the overview on the left makes you elite.
Just look at my boys Chessur and Suitonia
>>180289234
I'm better than both of them combined and I have it on the right
>>180289324
>I'm better than both of them combined
prove it
>>180289324
I have it on both sides, depending on the account I log in. That means I am double elite, right?
>>180289467
I'm not going to log in just to prove that my overview is on the right
>>180289324
I hide my overview because overviews are for casuals.
>>180289234
> actually falling for the twitch / jewtube attention whores are actually good at the game meme
fuck off out my dog faggot
Got some tips for EWAR piloting in small gangs?
I've been flying mostly throwaway jamming boats. Griffins for lightweight fast fleets and Blackbirds for heavier fleets. I can fly the Kitsune and am training into the Rook but we usually just roam a small gang into null or whatever till we all die so it's hard to justify the extra expense.
I'm getting jamms off on people but I don't really feel like I'm having that much of an impact. Occasionally someone calls be a cheap faggot in local, which always cheers me up. We tend to win the fights against people we jump and they're over like lightning, lose the ones we get jumped. I guess it doesn't help that we're mostly just blasting AFK VNI's.
I try to burn out to my fallofff while hitting the target(s) with overheated jammers so I don't get blapped and then get into a wide orbit. I feel like I want to be warping in after the jump at range. If I open the fight with jamms I tend to just get blapped before I can get out and if I'm too close I tend to die. But the times I've been a little later to get the jamms off, people tend to ignore/be unable to do anything about me.
>jamming
just kill yourself, honestly
use damps and tracking/guidance disruptor ships instead, they're more fun. with ecm, ccp have made all the ships retarded nodps notank bricks, as a half assed way to try to compensate for ecm being broken
>>180293356
>>180293619
>everyone hates jamming
time to keep jamming
>>180293356
“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.”
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
>>180293356
This salt is exactly why I fly ECM.
>create exciting new forums
>put that faggot paul elsy who killed the old forums in charge of them
Never change, CCP
>new forums
>exciting
>>180294435
Enjoy your shallow gameplay and nodps
>>180256778
Justified Chaos in Galmil
>>180266842
base out of a wh with nullsec static instead
>>180289234
All fags. Tuskers is where its at (so I've heard).
Also the squids. They always fight at disadvantage so that deserves praise by itself.
>>180302313
>Also Santo is the biggest eve troll alive
I honestly dont know much about null, but where are the goons since their original sov got pwned? What happened (havent played in like 3 years).
>>180302604
They moved to Delve. Still have the most people and one of the top amounts of sov.
>>180302604
2017 goons is a pubbie alliance, truegoons are in PL or don't log in anymore
>>180302825
What are the perks of joining them? All I hear is people being scammed or blues being killed lol.
>Delve
Kys
>Pure Blind
Kys
>>180288491
>>180306192
What happened to Rise?
Arbitrator
Piece of shit.
You are
>>180288491
>Mining gives you a surefire way to get cash. But it is boring as hell
multibox
>FC pings for an op
>I log in and join fleet
>It's a shield comp
>Close client and comms
3 more months until carrier. Am I going to make it?
>>180317717
sure why not?
>>180317717
I hope you didn't buy your carrier skill book already, what ever you do don't buy amarr carrier or caldari carrier unless you're doing it specifically for the Minokawa or Apostle. Amarr and Caldari combat carriers are trash
>>180317910
I'm going for the Thanatos
>>180318395
dank, enjoy max fighter damage and HP
>taking advice from line members
>>180312019
>Pressing F1 and waiting is more fun if you do it 5 times
no
>>179969253
I haven't played in long time. Have Amarr got their coloured hoods back yet? Is Fountain still covered in TEST?
>Amarr
>Minmatar
>>180301828
>please don't hurt me and my brainlet f1 monkey friends
>dps
>alpha
>>180324519
ECM is brainlet
>>180326191
Show me on the doll where the Falcon touched you.
>I'm such an epic troll xddd
enjoy dying instantly when there's 3+ on field ecmshitter
>being too stupid to use EWAR
>assuming I didn't train Recon Ships to V
>assuming I can't permajam almost anything short of a capital
>my cruiser has 10k ehp and there's drones on me
>oops missed a jam, falcon down
>>180318395
Upvoted.
What's wrong?
Sad you couldn't whore on the killmail because you were jammed?
Can somebody explain to me what fozziesov is?
>>180333408
POS Sov: Whoever has the largest POS controls the system
Dominion Sov: Whoever owns the TCU controls the system. The TCU can be destroyed by normal fleets once it's been reinforced.
Aegis/fozziesov: Same as Dominion, except that the TCU can only be destroyed by a cancer king-of-the-hill mechanic that spawns sites across the constellation when the TCU is reinforced. Oh, and it takes longer if the system is used for ratting and mining.
>tfw that brief, glorious time between Phoebe and Aegis was the only time sov was ever good.
>>180333872
Thank you.
I expected much more shitposting before someone actually answered my question.
Can you imagine the outrage if the Vexor design was left alone? Fuck; can CCP do nothing to please the masses? Give em' a break.
>>180333872
Not that guy but which sov saw the most conflicts?
>>180337291
Dominion, because aside from the stage where it was about who could pile more supers in, it was much better than either Aegis or POS.
>not celestis bellicose redesign
>redesigning shit nobody flies
The bellicose is target painting me, logi on me.
>just redesign my fotms over and over
>tfw CCP won't revert sov to pre-aegis
oneiros
>capital faggots unironically want structure grinds back
>"it's good gameplay because I own a super"
>my small gang has to be able to hold sov because reasons
>I cannot use my overpowered anti-everything ship to take sov by winning fights in a pvp-based hold the field system
>Only 1,000+ member alliances should be able to hold sov because reasons
I hope plex and extractor/injector prices are like this for a while, I want those skill farmers to operate at a loss
>pvp-based hold the field system
so dominion?
>dominion
I thought that was structure grinds
>forgetting that sov was actually good after ccp told capital pilots to eat shit and before they started jerking off ECM whores
>told capital pilots to eat shit
capitals have never not been broken mate
>orbiting a magic wand
>good
I don't understand your problem with entosis other than ecm not being fixed yet, and the thing where the defenders don't need to do anything
>sov "warfare" reduced to a 500mn cruiser orbiting a stick
>haha guise entosis has no problems xD
>t. ccp
>when we aren't discussing entosis, this anon will be telling me how oversized/undersized prop mods are perfectly fine and don't need changing
They are fine. The people using entosis just use exclusively them because they don't want to actually take sov.
>>180320150
check scout, laser, asteroid size, hauling to compression array etc, way better than only one miner
This moon change sure has taken its sweet time to arrive.
>Go on astrahaus bash fleet
>"Is this the structure timer?"
>"No it's the armor timer"
>Leave fleet
>>180345763
>muh killmail
>>180345763
>citadels are fine
>t. ccp
>anon you refused to join the shield and armor timers, you don't qualify for stratpap.
>>180328294
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63022647/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63024687/
>15 involved
>still need ecm to win
How are you this bad
I'm getting heavy into industry in a big null alliance and have been building caps using BPC sets bought in jita. Should I save up for a set of capital part BPOs?
>>180351290
Do the math
>349dps
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63055974/
>>180347123
>stratpaps
>fly safe o7
Why are people so pathetic about joining strategic ops?
PVE and industry are for earning and building ships to fly in fleets
What Dreadnought do you fly?
I enjoy roaming on my Maller.
Returning player, what are the actual benefits of Citadels? Beyond having your own station whats the benefit over just using an NPC station?
>>180353038
Tether (no aggro zone unless you have combat timer or targeting someone), can be deployed in WHs or systems without NPC stations. Not bound by moons. Tether also reps heat damage and shield/armor/cap.
>>180353038
>0% tax markets
>swapping pods doesnt trigger the JC cd
>free reps
>can compress ore instantly
>engineering complexes have bonuses for the industry fags
And maybe some other stuff I never used.
>>180353210
>>180353038
You can also customize it with rigs/modules to provide bonuses to reprocessing/manufacturing/research etc.
If i set up an Astrahus how many could i defend it against with my alt gunning and 2 HAW dreads on the undock?
bout tree fiddy
No-SP, here. Training/injectors seem fine with RMT prices, but the problem is EVE seeming interesting enough to spend ~$60/mo.
..Which is ironic, because WoW, even, has yet to seem worth that for leveling alts or whatever.
>60
wut
>>180353332
Is there anyway to see if I can dock at them without trying to dock, how the defences work, if I warp to the wrong one in low/0.0 am I gonna get blapped like a pos?
>>180353336
How do you see what bonuses are currently running without being the owner?
>>180355014
It's as interesting as you make it, you cant take a chill approach and aim to make as much ISK as possible in Highsec through simple manufacturing to more advanced ways as your SP/ISK capital increases or head to null to earn your isk and engage in PVP
any AUTZ here or just no sleep US and EU?
>>180355693
AUSfag here
>>180355693
AUTZ a shit.
>>180355952
What kind of space do you live in?
Im thinking of resubbing, how is AUTZ content these days?
>>180356185
The southern regions of sovnull are pretty active during AUTZ, especially Brave space.
>>180355451
>juxtaposition
>>180356274
Brave isnt french ?
>Brave isnt french ?
>playing Eve
>2017
Top ken cucks, hope you like tasting fozzies dick cause he fucked the game hard. What's left? The pl circle jerk on reddit? Pic related.
KYS maqiri
>autistic kiwi johny meme still hasn't killed himself
>>180357371
It's primarily US, but there are a lot of AUTZ members, including the alliance leader.
>>180357689
Who are you? Ginna be an anonymous bitch or 1v1 me
>>180357689
Comon cunt fight me wonder who you could be? Just a lil bitch who talked shit from the safe space of 4chan.
Can I ask how much is the current game filesize? I'm planning to play this at the end of the year
>>180358158
Want me to send it to you in an envelope ?
AUTZ should be exiled to Serenity
>mfw I talk shit anonymously online and drop sack and run when someone asks for one outs
Forever a bitch and u know it
Recommendations for FW corps that arent bad and uses caps, I just returned and everyone I know has stopped playing, EU TZ?
kevin
>>180359480
>using caps
>in the spy ridden shit holes of fw corps
Kevin
>>180361349
I thought caps were super OP and there was no way to lose in them
>>180361820
>no way to lose in them
lol
Am I the only one who believes Fozzie makes smart engaging changes to the game?
>>180362396
foozie pls go
>>180361820
Youd be wrong
>>180362141
>>180362805
So caps are fine and can be countered?
>>180362904
Caps are dying left and right nigga
>>179975398
>Choose non-pure race
kevin you fag
fuck you kevin, new thread.
what did he mean by this?