/eog/ EVE Online General

>>179860776
how rare are these lucrative contracts? i've been thinking about becoming a space trucker but everyone tells me that it's a bad idea and i'll never make real isk

>>179861815
Super size buff when?

>>179862487
I find lucrative ones like that every day or two just by hanging out in Jita and the Haulers Channel. And between doing those you can typically make 1m/jump doing others which, considering you can average around a minute per jump, rivals VNI ratting in null.

>>179862487
If you can fly a JF and have a cyno alt, you could probably make a lot of money price gouging renter corps

>>179860776
So it's similar to my fit.

[Impel, asdfgh]
Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener
Damage Control II
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
Imperial Navy 800mm Steel Plates
Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Nanite Repair Paste x309

>>179862812
Yep, almost exactly.

>>179862812
>Afterburner but no MWD
You realize you can cut your align time in half by single-cycling an MWD, right?

>>179863208
I thought an AB did that as well?

Which t3d, /dog/?

>>179865326
hecate

>>179865326
Confessor

So who got or is getting the new frigate book?

>>179861815
What's the differences between the empires? I just started playing the game because of a /v/ thread and I'm having a whole lot of fun.

>>179865326
Jackdaw

>>179866203
There are both lore and gameplay differences.

Lore:
Amarr: Biggest empire, slave-owners and highly religious.
Minmatarr: Former slaves of the Amarr. Made their own empire after escaping.
Gallente: Democratic libertarians with a huge entertainment industry and lots of debauchery.
Caldari: Formerly part of the Gallente empire, broke off in a civil war, their society is very militaristic and ruled by corporations.

Gameplay:
Amarr: Mainly use lasers and tank (increasing your ship's defensive capabilities) via armor, some of their ships use missiles or drones. Typically the slowest ships but the tankiest.
Minmatarr: Typically the fastest ships but also the squishiest, they mostly use projectile turrets which don't use capacitor to fire and have a good range of damage types to exploit weaknesses in your opponents' tank. Can be shield or armor tanked but typically lean toward shield. A few of their ships use missiles as well.
Gallente: Typically armor-tanked and specialize in drones and hybrid turrets. Drones are small ships you can launch up to 5 of at a time and give commands to (think pet classes in other MMOs) and hybrid turrets use capacitor to fire and are either very short range but high damage (blasters) or very long range but low damage and tracking (railguns)
Caldari: Typically shield-tanked, they specialize in missiles and hybrid turrets. Missiles don't require capacitor to fire and can't miss but do less damage to smaller/faster targets.

>>179865326
svipul

>>179866956
Thanks man

>>179866956
I'm interested, what faction do you prefer? I just did Caldari because I liked the megacorp idea but I'd like to hear other people's motivations.

>>179867869
I picked Gallente when I started playing as I'm not a big fan of authoritarianism and enjoyed the idea of drone ships as I enjoyed pet classes in other MMOs such as the Necromancer classes in Diablo 2 and Guild Wars 1. However now that I've played the game a while and have trained into every faction's ships and weapons I fly ships from every faction.

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I just got my first killmark after a month of welping ships.

>>179862812
lol

>>179868934
Post killmail.

[03:20:27] Athena Jin > so i meant to warp my ceptor the gate and accidently warped the bus

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>"ANOOON! YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS CORP FOR TWO MONTHS NOW BUT YOU HAVEN'T JOINED A SINGLE FLEET AND ARE NEVER ON COMMS!"
>"I'm sorry, I'm always busy with my newborn twins and I can only spare 5 minutes here and there to play EVE."
>"O-oh ok, real life comes first of course. I remember when my kids blah blah blah"
>tfw your twins are two rorqs

Jokes on you. You can't talk to me if I'm never on comms.

>>179870993
>Real life comes first
>tfw no NEET corp where everyone's on 24/7

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>"NO. YOU CANNOT PAY YOUR PAPSTRAPS WITH ORE"

So is CCP killing the game or is it reddit being whiny?

>>179872265
It's panfam/darkness whining about no ''''content''' because they bullied everyone away when the south has 1 huge battle every week and 23/7 smallscale action in catch

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>440 plex (+60 FREE!)

>>179872781
CCP are really nice, they've been giving away FREE PLEX for a while now.

Are servers down for anyone else?

>>179873930
http://eve-offline.net/

Nope

>>179873930
I'm mining right now

What's the best nullsec ore to mine?

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>>179875468
No cherrypicking!

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>get killed in a scanner astero with a skin in the hold
>-4B killmail

well their goes any dreams I had of ever having a positive killboard

[email protected]
someone refer me

>>179870993
>not using your rorqs for hot-dropping brave newbies

Doomchinchilla would be spinning in his shallow grave.

>>179877894
That's what you get for being a solo-playing cuck

>implying

>stop playing just after blood raider sotiyo introduced
>come back
>apparently everything is ruined
I've gotten the super negative rundown on what I missed. Someone give me the positive, upbeat version that makes me want to play this game again.

>>179879634
>blood raider soityo NPCs buffed
>no more ceptor loot fest because it drops a lockbox so you actually need to hold the grid to get the loot
>ghost training exploit bannable
>carrier PVE got a slight nerf
>anoms will get adjusted to make super ratting riskier
>pirate faction BPC drop rate lowered
>10/10 escalation rate from anoms lowered
>incoming t3c balance will shake up doctrines
>slight rorq nerf but they're still good
>rorqs will move around now instead of sitting in one system all day

>>179879865
My goal has been to make a plex + a couple hundred million a month from T3 manufacturing on one account. Is this still doable?

>>179879634
>Someone give me the positive, upbeat version that makes me want to play this game again.

Nothing really changed and the amazing moments of this game are still there.

>>179879865
>>179880030
>>179880029
Just to be clear, my primary interests are the industry/economy side of things. PvP is nice, but I treat it as pretty much a fancy way to throw away T1 frigates.

>>179880029
No idea what margins are like now, you might not want to stockpile Tengus because a thousand nullbears might sell their DED running boats.

sorry stunt i didnt know your vagina was bleeding

>'do something to make it riskier to rat in carriers'
What did they mean by this? Are anoms gonna be cyno-jammed?

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Anyone care to explain the 500mn MWD on caps? What exactly makes it align faster with that and how is it achieved?

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What's the best way to make PI bux? Lotsa t2 or setting up t5 shit like wetware?

Is there any point to force recons beside decloak, scram + web and cyno?

>>179883674
p4 and buying inputs or getting suckers to produce them for you by running a buyback

>>179887774
Protip: 39 / 75-150 votes criticizing your progression system *in a sandbox* is a problem.

>>179883008
it's the same as doing it on a battleship but less effective. you turn it on and your max speed goes up and you start accelerating faster. if you leave it on you won't align faster, but when it turns off your max speed returns to normal, and you are more aligned than you would be without using the mwd. on caps it's broken desu ccp needs to fix

Omen
800mm Steel Plates II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer
Focused Medium Beam Laser II

I should probably sleep

Why is armour tanking a thing? It makes your align time horrible.

>>179890526
Back when everyone but PL was bad at EVE they stomped some shitty alliances with armor Zealots. It only worked because scorch was op but people still think armor tanking is good when it's just a meme. Smaller sig does nothing if you bring a Vigil and even BS guns track armor cruisers just fine.

>>179888119
Fuck off its not broken any ship can do it

>>179890860
You're really fucking retarded

Armor tanking is significantly better than shield tanking. Make me a shield tank ship that gets more tank than an armor. A pimp fit meta machariel can get 400k ehp and a rattlesnake can barely get above 200k. Hell a fucking raven or roll can't come anywhere near an abaddon tank

>>179890879
no, most ships cannot half their align time with a ~0 fitting propulsion mod

>>179890526
>>179890971
you're both retarded

>>179891040
>no, most ships cannot half their align time with a ~0 fitting propulsion mod
All the battleships can reduce their align from 12+ seconds to as low as 8

It only works on capitals that have an inertial stabilizer and supers that have 3 inertial stabilizers

But please tell me about the capital ships that got away because you couldn't lock it and point it in 8-10 seconds

>>179890971
>prioritizing EHP over speed and DPS to the point where you can barely even move
>when kiting, shield-tanking missile ships are the meta and wreck everything slower than them

>>179891040
>you're both retarded
Not an argument faggot

You can't bring active hardener shield tanks to a fortizar bash. You'll get neuted out and die.

Armor tanking will give you significantly more tank. Large shield extenders are shit compared to 1600mm

>>179891273
No one uses shield battleships in fights. Rattlesnakes are still slow as fuck and will just get alphad by arty machariels that have literally double their tank

>>179891352
Yeah, but have fun hitting Caracals and Orthruses with that artillery and its terrible tracking.

>>179891352
TRI, TC, Red Alliance/Dream Fleet, TEST, Proviblock, Space Violence have recently used shield BS doctrines.
Machs are used because citadels are fucking broken,because bombs are gay and because shield slaves aren't ingame yet but that's about it.

>>179891464
>machariels vs rattlesnakes

>hurricane enjoy tracking orthruses

*webs and neuts you with huginn and shit*

>>179891513
Do you have some fits to post? I'm curious about which ships are used besides the nightmare.

>armour tanking
>takes forever to burn to anything, takes forever to align
>lower DPS
>actually more vulnerable to bombs than shield tankers, because they don't have the speed to clear the blast zone
>still defended by "muh EHP' fags
Caldari Master Race. Missiles and ECM FTW.

>>179891765
The actual benefit of armor is the sig radius.
Shield mods give you sig radius penalties and when you're going around heavily shield buffer tanked, those things stack up.

Also, fagdari ships are slow as shit. Shield tanking doesn't make them any less slow.

>>179891737
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61780787/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62851107/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60917087/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62373364/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61978368/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/56878205/

>>179891883
Lower base speed? Yes
Slower when properly tanked compared to almost any armour tanking ship? No.
And the Caracal + a few other Caldari missile ships are quite fast for their size.

>>179891273
Ah the days of triple plate Abaddons

>>179893986
You mean quad plate.
It's still a thing.

Armor stronger when facing nuets

>>179894068
Why does noone use arty abaddons vs citadels? aren't they basically like shittier, cheaper machs?

>>179894131
With none of the advantages of the mach? Sure.

>>179894510
>cheaper
>more EHP
>capless guns
>damage doesn't matter because damage cap
>almost bomb immune

>>179894586
>almost bomb immune
Wut? all bs are vulnerable to bombs, just a bit less than shield fleets

>>179894131
Because machs are better and cheap as shit.

Moros buff when

>>179891170
>All the battleships can reduce their align from 12+ seconds to as low as 8

using mwd on a battleship for warping will reduce its align time to maybe 11-12s. down from I think the slowest battleship align times are probably 13-14s. relatively it's a very small improvement, and on many battleships it's not even a thing. it's only useful for being a faggot with a cloak, which should be fixed pls ccp

>But please tell me about the capital ships that got away because you couldn't lock it and point it in 8-10 seconds

please tell me about how substantially reduced travel time on the most powerful and "slow" ships in the game doesn't break anything

>>179891276
>all fights involve fortizars

not an argument kys

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>damage doesn't matter

Heavy assault Battleship when

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>Paladin

>>179895121
>using mwd on a battleship for warping will reduce its align time to maybe 11-12s.
No it reduces it to 8

A mwd cycle is as low as 8 seconds you always get into warp in that time if you do a mwd trick.

The only time you align faster it's with a faster aligning ship like a machariel

>pleaae tell me how having some gimped fit carrier is able to travel ever so slightly faster isn't broke

It's not a fucking problem you mongoloid. If you really have a hard time pinning a traveling carrier because you're whining about a 500mn mwd trick you're fucking delusional

Now tell me about that carrier you couldn't tackle because it jumped a gate and got away because it did an 8 second mwd trick between gates. Man you must be so thirsty for content because of all those dreads getting away from you

>>179896296
mwd cycle time is 10s retard, I added 1-2s to that because your computer is not tranquility

>It's not a fucking problem you mongoloid

yes it is. they are supposed to have a particular align time. you can't just reduce it massively and then say it's all fine. they already shit all over battleships in every other way

>Man you must be so thirsty for content because of all those dreads getting away from you

you must be "thirsty" (?) for good arguments

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>WH living
>HS hole opens up
>Only a few jumps from jita
>Sit on hole with stealth bomber
>Already have 2b in dropped loot from industrial ships trying to haul shit

It's like ratting with considerably less effort.

>>179897978
>2b in dropped loot

You don't have to pretend those skins are worth something, we know they aren't.

>>179896453
No you're fucking retarded. I can do it on a battleship I can do it on a carrier.

If not for the mwd trick then I can just use a web alt that desu is significantly faster than a mwd trick

Then again you seem to be so short sighted and you whine about literal non issues

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>>179865434
>>179865823
>>179866854
>>179867021
>>179879089

>>179896453
>you can't just reduce it massively and then say it's all fine
Yea it is fine I do it all the time moving my jump freighter through highsec

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>>179898250
By our powers combined, we are a massive faggot?

>decide to try some FW
>Realize I have a week+ more skills to train just to fly an alpha frigate
I didn't want to play anyways.

>>179898343
>mfw my rhea has a sub 4s align because of my triple web hyena

>>179898532
Go mine or do something to fund the frigs you're going to be losing in generous amounts.

>>179898054
Mainly BPs, Skillbooks, and PI stuff. One guy had a bunch of blue loot on his Tayra for some reason that dropped.

>>179899040
Well nice. Post kill?

>>179899092
I'm not desperate enough for validation from strangers on the internet to make myself a target. Maybe when the hole closes.

>>179898774
Eh, I run lvl 3 in a caracal which is way better than venture mining.

>>179898238
on a battleship it barely does anything

>use a web alt

yeah this should be fixed too

>you seem to be so short sighted

but that's you. all you can think about is if a carrier jumps into you you can still catch it so it's all ok

>>179899253
That's how I started, now I run lvl4s in a Gnosis and only need 130 plex more to go omega

The fittings on Eve Uni are extremely out of date, where can I find newer ones?

>>179899796
>I run lvl4s in a Gnosis
x...D?

>>179897978
Do you ever catch nullbears? As soon as a WH to the forge pops up somewhere half my alliance starts hauling their loot through there. I don't get it, alliance freight is 7m for 1b worth of crap to Jita and these guys are hauling billions worth of crap in t1 haulers through WHs just to safe a few megabucks

>>179899863
/r/fittings
.Or (if this is for PVP) look at top users of a ship and see what fits they died in.

>>179900039
Not that guy, but we (Oruze Cruise) did that several times. It's pretty good but you can't always predict which way they'll haul loot (i.e. will they bring new ships from hisec, or bring things to hisec to sell them), so you sometimes catch them empty.

Can anyone recommend a recent Rokh fit for PvE that uses blasters?

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>we (Oruze Cruise)

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>Rokh

battleclinic

>>179899361
>on a battleship it barely does anything
14 to 8 is "barely anything"

Oh but my carrier aligning in 20 seconds to about 9s (a single inertial stab isn't enough for a flat 8s) is magically and suddenly a big deal?

>they need to fix that too

Can't fix what's not broken. What would you "fix" it with? A finite align time? Say good bye to bumping if that's the case. Warping and aligning has always been a function of mass and agility. This has been in the game for over 10 years and it wasn't a problem ever all this time

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>I (Zira Zira)

>>179900271
Why does Oruze use a system with a HS static?
Wouldn't you get too much riff-raff coming in?
(The only wormhole system I've lived in was a C4 wolf-rayet with C3 and C5 statics)

>>179900827
it's not 14 to 8 retard

>What would you "fix" it with?

I'm not sure, it's a tough one with eve's mechanics

>it wasn't a problem ever

that's your opinion (which is incorrect)

>>179899361
>but that's you. all you can think about is if a carrier jumps into you you can still catch it so it's all ok
Yea it is all OK because I catch it. He fucking dies

>>179900925
They got BTFO every time they ran into Achtung Partizanen so now they play it safe

>>179901145
maybe you should be a game designer for ccp, you see the big picture so well

>>179900925
It doesn't. You mixed something up. We end up connected to systems with HS and NS statics often though.

>>179901183
t. angry nullbabby who can't find our chain

Haven't played for a long time, but what's all this I hear about leddit revolting against the game? Is this an annual ritual?

>>179901357
This time it's real. It's not just Reddit, it's the whole playerbase revolting.

>>179900934
>it's not 14 to 8 retard
Yea it is. An abaddon with 2 plates aligns in 14.3 seconds which is actually 15 seconds because of how ticks work

>I don't know how to "fix" my non issue but just fix it because I said so

You're fucking retarded. When you don't have a solution to a supposed problem you truly don't know what the problem is because you can't identify what the root cause is. You can't identify what exactly this problem is other than some uninformed and ignorant opt union of yours that a 500mn mwd in a carrier with one istab aligns in 8s. You don't even know how fast a typical battleship can even align that's how out of touch you are. This isn't a problem, you're the only one complaining. Nothing is broken about it and never has been.

You won't even find a carrier taking gates solo. They always use jump drives because that's more efficient and way less dangerous

You're so delusional to the point you think me going out of my way to do a web alt is also broken because it doesn't agree with your shitty narrative you can't even back up. To the exact point where you don't even know how to address the fact I can drop my speed using webs. What? My webs shouldn't reduce the speed and throw it into warp? Because that's how Earp works. You don't have the slightest idea of a replacement because you're so retarded

>>179901349
What class, static(s) and effect are the most desirable?

Is the Rokh not considered good anymore?

>>179901239
No game designer will agree with you. Ccp likes the fact that a mwd cloak trick exists. They addressed this year's ago and said it wasn't an issue. It takes skill to do a mwd trick and you're still vulnerable as all hell. Blow a bubble. Go bump the ship. Use a dirty gate camp to catch shitters it's that easy

No one has a problem with this but you.

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>align F1 F2 warp
>skill

>>179901716
Battleships in general are shit because of their low warp speed.
Machs being the sole exception.

>>179901740
I think they tried to fix it about 10 years ago and failed and gave up actually. I'd like to see some evidence of them saying they like it

>>179901619
yes your abaddon aligns in 15 seconds, ok, now how do you reduce that to 8 with a microwarpdrive? even if we forget about ticks for a while, your mwd has a 10 second duration. you warp after it turns off

>When you don't have a solution to a supposed problem

I'm not a ccp dev faggot. all I can tell you is the way things should work. ships with 25-40 seconds align time should not warp in 5-10 seconds, and it's got nothing to do with muh gatecamps or whatever shit you're imagining

>narrative

I've no idea what you're talking about at this point

>>179902327
You need to fit a 50mn MWD to warp in 8 sec, it's just like fitting a 500mn MWD on a cap

>>179902491
I've not tried that, and I've neve seen an unironic 50mn battleship, sounds like a great way to waste slots, and it's still 10s duration so I'm sceptical

>>179902327
>I think they tried to fix it about 10 years ago and failed and gave up actually. I'd like to see some evidence of them saying they like it
They've never attempted to fix it because it's not an issue because it's not broken and doesn't break anything

>>179902327
>yes your abaddon aligns in 15 seconds, ok, now how do you reduce that to 8 with a microwarpdrive?
It's an 8 second cycle. The mwd gives it enough speed that when the max speed drops again to normal you're way above the minimal requirement to enter warp you stupid fuck.

>>179902491
You can use a 500mn on a battleship too. It gets the same 8s cycle time

>>179902597
back in nulli a 50mn MWD was part of the standard refits for BS, try it, it works

>>179902630
specifically when combined with cloaks it's obviously broken on bs, but the big align time reduction on capitals is also broken

>>179902327
>even if we forget about ticks for a while, your mwd has a 10 second duration. you warp after it turns off
There's a skill to reduce cycle time on mwd by 5% per level you stupid fuck

Do you even play this game?

>I'm not a dev
That's not what I said. You're fucking retarded because you can't even identify the cause of a problem you're making up. No one has a problem with a mwd trick not even the devs

>>179902743
it's 10 seconds

>>179902757
>nulli

>>179902759
>it's broken because I said so
Fuck off loser this wasn't a problem 10+ years ago its not a problem now

>ex-nulli members in MY general? It's more likely than you think

>>179902864
>it's 10 seconds
It's 8 at level 4 skill

>>179902759
If they removed warp within 0m and maded 10km-15km the closest you could jump to something then all this warpbaby bullshit would get fixed.

MWD trick wouldn't matter becaue you couldn't ram yourself into gates and only ever have 8 seconds of vulnerability.

It would give meaning to both \warp speed and normal speed.

>>179901635
Effect, definitely magnetar (increased damage for easier jewing).

Hard to tell what the other metrics are. C5s are valued jewholes, C2s/C4s are valued PVP holes. Statics depend on your needs.

C1-C3s with hisec static are very often taken and active.

>>179902958
kill yourself

>>179902847
>you can't even identify the cause of a problem

nothing I've said should indicate that I don't understand how it works. what I can't be sure of is what solutions are available. I can only observe things we can do in game, I can't go fuck about on a test server with weird builds like a dev

>>179903062
I don't think it is

>>179903072
no it would still matter. ships have specific align times and warp speeds and shit for a reason

>>179903072
>what are instas
>what was bad about everyone having 50k bookmarks
>sorry guys, they jumped into curse and i don't have instas for that region. time to go home!

>>179903302
You're fucking retarded

>they have that Stat for a reason
A reason you can't even identify nor can you even provide any conscription as to how it's broken for breaking that reason you can't even figure out in the first place

>>179903449
so what you're telling me is that if a battleship went around with 3 second align time and 10au/s, you'd be here on /eog/ telling me everything is fine and to get good and fit more sensor boosters. I thought this shit would be obvious, even with your learning difficulties and lack of game knowledge

>>179903176
If I want access to a good income source, regular fights, and don't care that much about resupply?

>>179901635
C1s are for industrials. They set up industry POSes and raitarus there, then use the highsec static to move things in and out with DSTs.

C2s are shit for most things, but some people live in them if they have c5 statics.

C3s are jewholes for subcaps. Not much of a point in living there, but C3 makes for a great static you can jew dry and reroll.

C4 have 2 wormhole statics, which make them a good place to live in if you are a dedicated wormhole corp interested in doing wormhole things.

C5 and 6 are jewholes. You can move capitals between them, as well as kspace connections that link to them. They have mostly been abandoned after their income was nerfed in to the ground to the point it's barely worth the time it takes to run them.

The magnetar effect makes you run sites faster. The cataclysmic variable fucks up local reps and is disliked by almost everyone.
Pulsar and wolf rayet are shield and armor holes. Along with some particularities. Black hole gives you velocitiy and missile range, but fucks up agility really bad Red giant makes overheating more powerful, but also burns out modules faster.

>>179903650
>so what you're telling me is that if a battleship went around with 3 second align time and 10au/s,
Nice making up extremes to purposely go way outside the scope of the game and what's physically possibly in the gsme

Show me a 10au/s battleship with a sub 3s align you dumb faggot

>>179903731
Are there any doctrines that are extremely powerful under a certain effect, and so good for defending your home hole if you live in a system with that effect?

>>179903673
C2/C5/NS

But might be harder to find one.

Otherwise, any C4 will do.

"Regular fights" is a bit of a meme. You generally have to put effort into finding them.

>>179904035
Yes. People who live in pulsars will generally bring gila blobs with scythes, for example.
In magnetars, people will never bring ships with local reps because the added damage makes breaking through easy.
Nobody lives in black holes lmao and red giants aren't worth building a fleet around.

>>179904002
so that's 'extreme', but capital align times with battleship mwds are not and are perfectly fine for some reason, because they haven't crossed some imaginary line you've thought up. please remap some intelligence :)
the reason why big ships going very fast is dumb is because it makes small ships pointless. ships are supposed to have attributes that translate into strengths and weaknesses vs other ships. if ccp accidentally gave a t1 frigate 30k ehp and 500 dps, then there would be very little reason to fly a t1 cruiser. this is what we're seeing with carriers and battleships - because of ccp's capital changes, the battleship in many situations doesn't do anything that a carrier cannot. I'd expect week-old players to understand this

>>179904384
Black holes only really work for high speed missile skills but I seriously doubt you'll wanna make a fleet doctrine of entirely orthrus and bhargest

>>179904413
>so that's 'extreme
You literally made up something that can't exist in the gsme let alone exist prominently even if it was possible

>this is why big ships that are fast
You are so I'm competent that you couldn't name any big fast ship so you had to make one up that was way outside of the scope of the game and isn't possible

>>179904413
>because they haven't crossed some imaginary line you've thought up.
Holy fuck the irony is palpable

You made up some battleship that could go 10au/s and sub 3 second align. You thought this up because you have no real in gsme examples that's how made up your problem is

>>179904464
rapid torp phoenix doctrine

>>179904413
>if ccp accidentally gave a t1 frigate 30k ehp and 500 dps
Show me a frigate with 30k ehp and 500dps

Stop making shit up if you actually had a problem with bitching about, you wouldn't have to make up all these hypothetical statements of "what if" that couldn't exist to begin with

>>179904543
>>179904656
I thought up an example to help you guys understand, because you are not very smart. you wanted to know why something going uncharacteristically fast would be bad, I think I explained it pretty well

>>179904759
>Show me a frigate with 30k ehp and 500dps

jesus christ you're retarded

>>179904464
>>179904384
There's also RLML Legions/Sacrileges in Wolf-Rayets, because the small weapon bonus applies to RLMLs.
In a C6, you can get ~1k DPS out of a single Legion. As well as 200k EHP.

>>179904874
>I thought up an example to help
The only example you could make were of things that didn't exist. No actual in gsme examples because you have none

>>179904874
>jesus christ you're retarded
Says the guy who is complaining about a problem but can't come up with any examples that actually exist so you had to resort to making up ludicrous situations that couldn't exist to begin with

>>179903428
Then eve is flawed in a way that can't be fixed.

>heavy drone operation V
>20d

kill me

>>179904940
>Hyperbole is an extreme exaggeration used to make a point

so you want examples of things in game not fitting well within what a ship class should do? that's pretty broad, and I don't see the relevance this has - capitals using battleship mwds to get battleship align time is what we were talking about, and me trying to help you guys become smarter with this post should have no bearing on that
so rapid lights. it's a cruiser weapon with frigate application. this makes destroyers (t1) terrible at their intended role because they're shit in every way compared to a missile cruiser. this fucks up the way eve's ship classes play against each other, because it makes frigates and destroyers very easy to kill without using frigates and destroyers or damage application stuff, though it's made much worse by destroyers being a joke anyway

>>179904874
>frigate with 500 dps and 30k ehp
You could probably do it in a C6 wolf-rayet with an AF.
I have an extremely tight Confessor fit that does 1.2k in sharpshooter and can take 27k in defense when in a C6.

>>179905692
>>Hyperbole is an extreme exaggeration used to make a point
Why do you have to exaggerate? If you truly had a problem you wouldn't have to have a hyperbole at all

>>179905860
I have to exaggerate because you guys are stupid and don't get it

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>corpmates kill a 150 killmark Stratios

All-Out is back boys.

>>179906168
killmarks on killmails when

did a lot of players move onto elite dangerous

>>179906693
They are getting ready for stormblood.

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HAHA THE GERMAN IS DED

>>179906693
We're all playing Star Citizen™ now.

>>179906693
Still a lot of players on. Elite Dangerous seems like it has all of the grind without the ability to alt tab out and shitpost while I wait.

>>179906693
Nope. Boring: Daderous remains in decline. Hell, a lot of the PVP community of that game has, is in the process of or is considering moving to this game, because of how little support PVP gets in ED. It doesn't help that the devs are all 50-something men and the guy in charge of balance is so autistic you can see it from orbit. My only regret is that I spent money on that shitshow once.

>>179905952
You have to exaggerate because your problem doesn't exist and you have no actual in game examples to draw on. Literally zero evidence for your claims

>>179907623
>zero evidence for your claims

so are you saying mwd warping doesn't happen and people just fit it as a reverse cap battery?

>waah I can't lock a capital in 8s pls nerf :(

this game isn't dead yet?

when will we finally say goodbye?

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I did it /dog/. I haven't logged in for two days after two years of daily playing.

>>179906975
Yes. Eviction soon.

>>179907716
No I'm saying you have no evidence that it's a problem at all. All your shit is conjecture and hyperbole based on nothing

>>179908835
what kind of evidence would you accept

>>179908981
There is none because it isn't a problem

>>179908981
Any tangible evidence but you've seem to provided none

>>179909115
tangible evidence like what

>>179909052
how do you decide whether it's a problem

>>179909257
Nobody else but you has the problem to lock a capital in 8 seconds

>>179909373
you're assuming that you're on grid with it. things can travel when you aren't there

>>179909492
Not an argument. You see it on dscan, you know it's moving gate to gate. Go fucking find it and tackle it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/6hmrpg/this_carebear_is_done_with_your_shit/
As much as we hate reddit, can we not agree this needs to be a copypasta?

>>179910873
you're assuming you're in system with it

>>179909257
>tangible evidence like what
Something that actually within the realms of the game. Not some made up hyperbolic shit like 30k ehp t1 frigs with 500dps or 10au/s, 3s align battleships.

Can you provide any evidence of this element of a game being a problem. No conjecture, no projections or opinions, no hypothetical bullshit. No illogical conclusions, fallacies or unsupported claims. Actual, real, tangible evidence of the mwd trick being a problem. Remember this isn't "mwd trick doesn't exist" or "mwd trick doesn't happen" it's how is this mwd a problem at all?

>>179911126
Fuck off reddit.

>>179911180
because it removes one of the disadvantages capitals are supposed to have

>>179911126
You know he's right.

>>179911126
>As much as we hate reddit

>we h-hate reddit, I'm t-totally not a redditor

Stop posting your shitty site. We don't care about it.

>>179911126
kys for bringing that website here

EVE needs a better contract system.

>I have had enough. I don't care that EVE is a PvP game. I don't care about highsec, lowsec, or whatever-the-fuck-sec. I have lost the fifth hauler this week and I HAVE HAD IT. I don't care that 'undocking is consent to PvP' I DO NOT FUCKING CONSENT TO PVP. I AM AN INDUSTRIALIST AND I WANT YOU TO LEAVE MY FUCKING SHIP AND CARGO ALONE.

>If your response is going to be "herp derp EVE is a PvP game" SHUT UP I DON'T CARE. If this is supposed to be a purely PvP game, then WHY HAVE INDUSTRIAL MECHANICS IN THE FIRST PLACE? To just put non-PvP players under stress and upset them with constant losses? I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT, I JUST WANT TO GET STUFF FROM A TO B AND I AM SICK OF LOSING SHIPS NO MATTER WHAT FITS I USE. And you can shut up with "blah blah risk" too, because I'm sick of assholes taking the ore or commodities I WORKED FOR just so you can put another notch on your stupid fucking killboards and circlejerk about it with your stupid fucking alliance. I AM TIRED OF LOSING SHIPS AND I WANT IT TO STOP. LEAVE MY HAULERS ALONE YOU FUCKHOLES. LEAVE MY SHIT ALONE.

>"hep derp salty tears" YOU CAN SHUT UP TOO, FUCK KNUCKLE. Log off, bust up your modem with a hammer, eat it, then go burn ants with a magnifying glass or torment your neighbour's cat or whatever the fuck you used to do before you discovered EVE. You're a fucking shit-covered festering pile of cunt rags who desperately need the asshole lobotomized out of them.

>How am I supposed to 'git gud' when all I have are scores of floating wrecks? I don't even get a chance.
I don't care what you guys say, it's beautiful.

>>179911290
This is your conjecture

You have to logically prove that this savings of maybe 10 seconds off align suddenly and somehow makes it a problem. You have to prove that this is a removal and that the removal (if you can prove it) causes it to be broken (prove its broken)

>>179911464
He's right tho.

>>179911543
if you don't want to talk then ok

>>179911791
You're fucking retarded

>>179912182
>prove it, that's conjecture, you have no evidence for 1+1=2

>>179912875
Post mathematical evidence that 1+1=2

>>179913598
I can't, I made it up

>>179913598
That's axiomatic, posting evidence is unneeded, assuming we're working in R.

>"Man, these drone event sites are really easy. I wonder if you can do 'em in anything."
>Make a new character, do the tutorial, inject Minmatarr frigate 1, fit up a Rifter with a crappy armor tank, afterburner, web, and autocannons
>A whopping 27 dps
>Still manage to beat the highsec drone event sites with the cruiser boss
Man, they're really terrified of excluding alphas from anything now, aren't they?

>>179914763
>Man, they're really terrified of excluding alphas from anything now, aren't they?

It's not that. Alphas are too excluded atm (and this is coming from someone running an alpha-friendly corp that encourages wormhole sites on alpha characters).

They just made them super easy because they realized less people will need them if you need to specialize your ship at all to do them.

>too excluded
>when every alliance wastes thousands of hours on handholding alphas

>>179915363
He means mechanics, not the community

>>179915418
That's how it is suppossed to be.

>>179915550
I agree

>>179912875
>I wanna pass off my scrupulous opinion as fact and provide nothing but hyperbole to support it. No I don't want to provide any real examples or evidence that it's true

>>179916732
your post is not a fact

>>179916882
Capitals using 500mn microwarp drives to align faster is fine then. Jump drives are fine and there's literally nothing wrong with it

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>>179911464
Is this pasta?

>>179916964
source on this opinion?

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>>179911464
>people that do their own hauling
>people that haul their own ore
There's already a class of retards that do this: space truckers
Shipping 800mil worth of compressed scordite over 16 jumps with a 1b collateral - a measly 21mil.
They'd be better off staying and mining rather than risking a loot piñata miasmos making multiple trips to the trade hub.

>>179917124
The fact that it's not a problem

>>179917390
>Highsec miners
>Calling anyone retards
loving every laugh

>>179917390
My Impel averages about a jump a minute so if I'm making 1m/j that's far more profitable than highsec mining, and I've never lost a hauler.

>>179917453
that's just you're opinion though and you don't even have any citations for your opinion

>>179917652
Relax, I just used ore as an example since it was mentioned in the post

>>179917861
It's not a problem if no one bitches about it.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to see it does anyone give a shit

>fucking about with some ewar in a throwaway memefit griffin
>meeting up with the corpies trying to track down the guy sizing up our supply convoy
>bounce off a random moon on the way to the gate
>land 35km off the gate
>go to cloak
> interference from the cruiser less than 2000 meters away is affecting your cloak
>can hear the dropped hot pocket and fumbled key mashing from across the vacuum of space
>instantly overload my jammers and give him the no fun allowed permajam while hitting him with the scram
>corpies swoop in and blast him into dust

lol jk i was the one who dropped his hot pocket and died before even getting a lock
I'd been waiting like 3 hours for some action too.
>eve

I'm almost done all my agent missions and wondering what I should start doing afterwords. Is ratting low level enemies the best or should I try industry?

>>179918091
source on the tree?

>>179919939
Go join some guys who do stuff. Anything. Go to RvB or brave newbies. Find a newguy friendly Indy or wh or lowsec pvp or hi sec pve Corp in the recruitment channel. I'd imagine even the big nullsec alliances would be wanting to take on more ISK Slav... Err... valued soldiers. They'll give you free ships and shit and you'll be making a difference as cannon fodde... First line aggro specialists.

>>179917390

I never fucking understood these contracts. Every single one of them (high to high sec) is a possible scam. How can people accept them at all?

>>179921630
I do several a day and have never failed a contract. Just avoid the ones that are blatant (Deliver this 5m3 item to this citadel 3 jumps away from this trade hub, 100m reward, 2 bill collat :^) ) and it's not a problem. Even if the contract is a set-up and they're waiting in a 0.5 with a gank squad they'd have to first actually get 3 points of warp scram on me to stop me from warping off, which is unlikely as I'll be cloak-MWDing, and even if they do catch me they'd have to break my 500k EHP tank before I burn back to the gate with an overheated afterburner or Concord shows up, which would require a huge number of people and probably wouldn't be worth it.

>unironic tidi blob battles
>muh capitals

>plex almost 1,5

>,

>>179924108
I inevested my meagre savings into injectors today. The ghost training ban better make the prices spike.
BAN HARD CCP

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>>179924108

>>179921000
If I go in as cannon fodder is there any chance of advancement?

>>179924463
People actually love good tacklers, which can be done in t1 frigates as soon as you start the game, if you know what you're doing. And don't think of flying some big battleship blowing up your corp's enemies as advancement, it's such a brain-dead job people refer to it as being an "F1 monkey." If you want to advance in your corp learn the game, build up trust with your corp mates, start commanding fleets, and rise to a director position.

>>179924973
>copypasted from ccp's shilling manual

>>179925126
>CCP would want people referring to battleship pilots, something which can only be done as an omega clone, which makes them money, as F1 monkeys

>tackler
>not based ewar frigate

>>179926105
>ewar frigate, not cruiser
>dying to a stiff breeze

>>179926202
kys griffinfag, crucifier and vigil never die

>I'm a pro Bellicose pilot

Bellicose is shit who thought this thing would ever be a good ship?

leave bellicose alone it only needs some more fitting

>>179926928
and more mids

>>179927031
prefer an extra low or high

>>179899863
zkill / ship / solo / top pilots

>it died therefore it is a good fit

Man I really wish I had a second monitor. I'm paranoid as fuck leaving my window closed when I'm mining.

>>179927559
do it it's great. even for not playing eve, second monitor is 100% worth

>>179927669
I work in IT so my workstation has 4 monitors and it's bliss. I'm just too cheap and lazy to have ever tried to get one for myself.This might put me over the edge because EVE is a game where you need something in the background when you're doing tedious shit.

or you could just not do the tedious shit

>>179903072
>10km-15km
>with ABs and Dessie+ MWD speed

>let's make gatecamps even stronger
>let's make anything above frigs even more useless
>let's kill hauling

Isn't this the game where losers spend real money on fake ships that other people will just destroy anyway?

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>>179905625

Stop reading meme articles on "gaming journalism"

>>179919876
>not /eog/ Omen roaming

>vulture

>>179933007
You don't have to, but a lot of people get enjoyment out of murdering trust fun babies who think they are invincible beacuse they bought high tier ships

>>179934275
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62977798/

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>NC/SC/PH

Even with all the titans, supers and caps they fail. Literally sat like cucks and watched the keepstar die.

>xhe thinks panfam is gonna deploy supers when there is even a small chance they are gonna lose them

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>Missed the keepstar kill because you were stuck in traffic

>>179936294
they were batphoned. the keepstar belonged to a smaller group called no handlebars

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RORQS SHOULD REQUIRE EXHUMERS V INSTEAD OF MASS PRODUCTION/ADV. MASS PRODUCTION

>not having adv mass production trained

how about that rorqual nerf

>muh economy

oneiros

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>>179940782

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>thalia

who is that

Why haven't you bought your copy of The Frigates of EVE yet?

if I buy it will they buff frigates

>>179934275

Taken like a 4 year break just come back, whats that shield mod with the 300?

>>179903428
If someone is going to land within 15km of the game, they are placed in a random spot within 15km of gate. No way to get around it.

>>179948598
Links. You now have to be near the linking ship to receive buffs (works like a smartbomb)
They now use charges so that there is only one type of shield link module, and the different effects use different charges for that module

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>>179948598
And you can selflink in solo pvp now

>>179937316
>was there whole fight and didn't bother doing any damage because killmail dick measuring is cancer

>>179949791
wow u sure r enlightend :)

So what is good for this event?

>>179950368
wow u sure r lame

Where should I go to learn more about the settings lore?

>>179950647
You can read a fair bit through the 'show info' windows of the various NPC corporations. Pick a faction, look under members list and read the descriptions. Besides that I guess you could read some of the books?

>>179950527
Nothing except for the accelerators.

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Can someone give me a few of their sp farm accounts so I wont have to spend hours ratting for plex?

>>179950647
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/

>>179917097
It is now.