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Sok'dash salahk Edition

What's new?

>Malthael's Bargin; Now LIVE
>The event lasts until June 26
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20811888/

>Malthael, Aspect of Death; Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/malthael/
Talents:https://pastebin.com/T5iqhteJ
https://youtu.be/qSBHR77CqTE

>Latest In-Development video
>Malthael, Summer fun skins, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20834649/
https://youtu.be/GMcd8QEPzUY

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838720/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20811884/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838723/

>Where can I talk to like minded individuals to discuss shitposting?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

Previous thread: >>179752531
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>>179852191
Kharryzim
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https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6hgjiz/hots_wonder_woman_young_girls_and_empowerment/
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>>179852464
>the entire thing
Uh.
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>>179851871

I'm just getting fed up with D.Va in general.

>Annoying tank that isn't any easier to kill than a "real" tank
>Kill her
>jk lol now I am assassin and you only got 50% xp fkn trolled m8

She's one of those heroes that's just annoying and unfun to play against like Samuro, Murky or TLV.

I feel like HoTS has good hero design overall, but some of these heroes that are near impossible to kill (Note: not saying they are unbeatable) and only exist just to fucking annoy the shit out of you.
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>>179852464
Because of course, any time a woman appears in ANYTHING it's "female empowerment" and not just that they're fucking women without being a political statement.
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>Only Warrior is Varian
>He goes Arms

evry tim
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>>179852684
I love triggering bitches with D.Va, Tracer and Murky. It just feels so good when you get 3 heroes on your ass trying to kill you and you just scoot away!.
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>>179852609
Just be thankful he wasn't complaining about anything or asking/demanding for something to be changed.

If he thinks this game is a positive or at least, neutral influence that will help his daughter avoid growing up to not be a slut, that's a good thing.
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>>179852684
Feels so good to buttrape pilot D.va when you isolate her though
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>>179852812
HYAAAAAA-ing people and deleting them one second after is fun, Anon.
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>>179853096
>25k damage
He could start any time he wants.
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Where's the Morales lewds puta?
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>>179852881
that's pretty much the mental image I form whenever my team isolates and kills a female hero in the game, except after we rape her, we also execute her while cum is still leaking from all her holes and her body is still covered in it.

Haha, wow, I got hard writing this.
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>>179853125

Well if the last thread is anything to go by, it's the supports fault he's not doing more damage.
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lune when
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What's the ideal Nova build? Mostly concentrate on pin shot due to long range with talents, setting up easy nukes and teams never having enough CC. Would a snipe focus be stronger?
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>>179853187
If you're into WH40k, read "the rape of an eldar" on the /tg/ fanfic wiki.
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how does the mvp system work?

Had most xp contribution, hero damage, siege damage, but my valeera gets mvp
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>>179853431
KDA
If she had higher Kills + Assists she's automatically in first place for MVP
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Add me for some game for that Malthael thingy

Milch#2964
EU server
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>>179853523
that's fucking retarded
>have 3x her hero damage
>her entire fucking role is "doing damage"
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>>179853431
It counts deaths and you have to be best in game in any of those stats, not best in your team. I've gotten a ton of MVP with D.Va because I never actually died but lost my mech enough to have 5 deaths.
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>faggot predictably picks kael on the small 2 lane maps
>obv wanting to cancer out his quest fast
>pick tyrael
>dive him and explode him every time
Feels good man
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>>179853597
Actually Valeera's role is killing people. High damage and no kills implies you were doing inconsequential healable damage.

Also deaths weigh heavily too so if she died twice and you died 3 times she automatically gets above you in the running (except extreme cases where someone has over 50% of a category done in a match singlehandedly i.e. used to get MVP all the time with Lucio before nerfs with no kills and some deaths because 50%+ damage taken healed.

Keep in mind, MVP grants no extra bonuses or anything, it's just for show.
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>next hero is #69
who it gonna be bois
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>>179852770
>Female shows up as just another character and doesn't show massive amounts of cleavage
>OH MY GOD WHAT A WONDEROUS THING, THIS CHARACTER IS EMPOWERING MY DAUGHTER!

Who the fuck thinks like this? What is going on.
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>>179854447
Liberals are literally insane. They live in a fantasy world where every man hates women and wants to oppress them and women are powerless and helpless without liberal white knights.
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>>179852464
Agree, we need more waifus.
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>>179854595
>liberals
go back to >>>/pol/
and stay go
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>>179854763
Sorry your feelings were hurt.
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>>179854763
no
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>>179854349
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>>179854349
Well since we have 3 angels now, we should be getting our 2nd Prime Evil so we can soon have all 3 Prime Evils in the game.
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>>179854975
don't you mean
lesser evil
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>>179852770
>fucking women
anyone who does this is a fag btw
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>>179854935
Zagara skin
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Fuck Dragon Shire. Oh my god, fuck this shitty, shitty map. This has to be hollowest, most energy draining victory I've ever won. Winning on this map feels worse than losing a dozen times on any other map. God damn it, I'm so tilted right now after that bullshit I don't even want look at the game anymore. Who the hell enjoys this bullshit?
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>>179853359
the slow on pin shot is good for helping your team get kills in endgame. i take the extra slow and double pin shot.

the snipe is more situational because they need to not have mobility to be a good target for it, and you have to not fuck it up, and they have to be dumb enough to not be sitting in a wave of creeps
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>>179855428
Dragon shire is the best map, just git gud
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>>179855428
I agree. Anyone who enjoys this map is autistic.
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>>179853359
snipe build is for when you can't safely sit in range long enough to dump all of your one-in-the-chamber damage out on someone
it has better poke but less kill potential
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>>179855428
>>179855667
overshitters can't handle the dragon knight
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>>179855530
If you can't hit snipes and don't go AOE snipe master don't pick nova and fuck off to bronze where you belong.
>>179855714
Shitter alert. AOE snipe + cd reduction has more sustained damage
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>>179855784
Overwatch players literally cannot do anything. I have no idea how they haven't died from their own incompetence in their daily lives.
I can 100% say that overshitters would drown in the bathtub without assistance.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>179855714
>>179855530
The snipe master buff made it able to shit out more damage consistently.
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>now hiring animators at blizzard entertainment
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>>179852849
You be amazed by people that will throw away obj just to chase you down if you are one of "those" heroes
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>>179853417
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>>179856482
Were they complaining about how the battle raptor is animated? Because it looks really lame.
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>>179856695
yes, apparently because there's literally 4 mount animations for heroes raptors looked janky because none of them really fit the horse/beast/mech/magic thing
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Is it possible to get dust or lootcrate dailies or is it just gold
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>>179857181
Just gold
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how do I stop getting salty from shitty teammates, such as anubarak/genji literally diving under a fort to get killed 5s later? things get worse when I say anything but no saying anything is also enabling their dumbass "it's all about me" behavior
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>use mirror image
>clones just walk towards the enemy team
>they are still visibly confused half the time
Is there a hero more fun than this guy?
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>>179857181
Just gold.

The others would be pretty worthless anyways. If you just keep spending gold on heroes you get easier lootboxes and thus get more shards. I'm at the point that I'm saving up shards since I got all the skins I want and only got 7 heroes left to buy.
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>>179857427
Only if you use illusion master.
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>platinum 4 on one account
>silver 4 on another
Explain hots tards
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I'm noticing people aren't getting mercs with Malthael. He's a good merc capper. Can keep trait on 4 targets. Q keeps him healthy. Does decent enough damage.
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>>179857878
You got carried.
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>>179857883
yep can solo Garden boss too
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>>179857878
Your rank is determined by your first loss, not how well you play overall. So you didn't fuck up till much later.

>>179857883
Everyone is trying to use him as the playmaker but he really isn't.
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>>179856803
Holy shit, my guess was right! Yea I was really underwhelmed the first time I tried it out and was wondering why the forearms were almost not moving at all when it was walking and it overall felt like the raptor was moving like it had wheels on its feet, as if it was a raptor-shaped go-kart.
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>>179857883
Good at getting bruiser camps and bosses. Pretty lackluster at siege camps.
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Why play full heal uther when you can pick holy shock, aoe stun and beat the shit out of enemy team? With level 16 talent even matter, it makes you basically immortal
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>>179857878
Placements are still retarded and throw people all over the place.

>get a Platinum I Auriel who dies 14 times
>check, she just got placed
ebin system this game has
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is tranquility a bronze ult
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>>179858435
Every time I've used it the healing is pretty unnoticeable and the silence and damage from Twilight Dream is better pretty much all the time.
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>>179858435
Too weak
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is nova viable as a pusher with

advanced cloaking > bribe > snipe master > p strike >explosive round > lethal decoy > p barrage

just push lanes and rotate when you see fights start, pick off a stragler, then go back to pushing
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>>179858873
>bribe
>lethal decoy with bribe
no
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>>179858873

Are you trying to make useless Nova useful for the enemy team ?
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>>179858873
snipe master + explosive round makes her not-entirely-useless at waveclear but you still shouldn't specifically try to splitpush when you have other things to do
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Do statistics take AI games into account?
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>>179859421
>All types
Of course.
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>>179859421
For some odd reason, yes. I farm AI for XP and my statistics are all over the place
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Give me an image macro, and a hero/es
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>>179859421
>all types
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Nazeebo is freeweek, right? Fuck him, playing against him literally every game while I'm playing melees is really annoying
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>>179859681
chen but is brew
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>>179859681
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>>179859681
this image except it's abathur and the cans are nukes
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>>179859681
This image but with Tassadar and the rainbows should be his laser beam(s)
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>>179859681
Alarak

>meanwhile, the highlord watches with no real interest!
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Falling in love with this guy.
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2 million years for ranked queues what a fucking joke
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>>179860737
yeah he's great but will fall off when people realize they can just duel you and not just try to walk away
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>>179856482
>>179856695

Man, I was kinda hoping they didn't fix it, it looks fucking hilarious. It's body is completely rigid while the legs move, it makes me laugh every time
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>>179859681
Don't care what heroes I just feel like there is an abuthr/auriel hat joke in here
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>get a nova picker who doesn't bribe camps or get kills on hanamura
>wait 5 minutes before queuing again
>queue
>get same nova picker
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>>179859681
Chris Hansen, Chen
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>fight looks bad
>Zarya ult their sonya that just got here
>other 3 enemies just walk into the ult
>win the fight because of the AoE
Thanks for the free win, I guess
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After trying Mathael in Try mode, I gotta ask, is he as strong as he seems? He has no escape other than psssshing away to something else, and no other engage other than that, and all of his damage is loaded onto his passive, but its a REALLY good passive. It is his entire hero. It is most of his damage without his execution ult. He doesnt have any non-trait defensive abilities, but the ones he has seem good.
Seems strong. 10% hp damage every auto attack? He's like a fucking melee Lunara but without the mobility or range.
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>>179861068
Oh god, seeing Abathur's symbiosis noming on someone's head is golden.
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>>179861715
As an addendum, this got me thinking: does he kinda replace Tychus? Or is he just a melee alternative to Tychus? Less burst but he seems just as anti-tank, only he can put his DoT on everyone and get 45 armor.
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>my owl hit abathur in base
>he just moves 3 steps away from his original position
>send another one
>dead slug
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>>179859681
Uther
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>>179861715
He's not that strong, he's basically AOE AP Illidan that does some %HP damage. Most people take the wrong build so it's hard to judge his power, but his winrate is high so who knows what will happen.

He doesn't replace Tychus because he's weaker up front and is melee so is vulnerable to shit that Tychus would not be as ranged. Odin is better than Tormented Souls because of the AOE, and Tychus' trait does 48% of anyone's HP+ in 4 seconds whereas it take Malthael 4 seconds to do 10%. Malthael has mad sustain in a fight, but Tychus has massive range on his as well as better mobility.
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>>179861016
Once, they fix the raptor, they should actually make a joke mount based on that flaw (doesn't have to be a raptor) and sell it for shards
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>>179862171
>and is melee so is vulnerable to shit that Tychus would not be as ranged.
Fair point. Do you think theres a place for him in the game then? He seems good at what he does, but his abilities just do no damage. It seems like you could just build him for max sustain, max armor, soul ripping and death mark duration. Just hang around and be a nuisance, then drop a kill confirm execution on someone. Maybe the aoe death mark ult is better though for applying marks to everyone.
Its nice that not everyone that gets released is absurdly broken.
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>>179859681
I need this but with Malthael. Been thinking of this stupid meme since his release.
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>>179861715
tychus kills single targets
malthael has shit single target damage, his strength is in damaging multiple enemies
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>I want to play medivh which I am mlg at, our team comp is fine for it
>two people throw a shitfit despite us having a better comp and go afk at the start of the match to get food to feed their obesity
>one guy afk randoms to protest this as well
>insist it's still possible to win even with current mangled comp
>there turns out to be a power feeder on the enemy team afking in our core as leoric
>the two retards that threw the fit are farming him for a few minutes pointlessly so it's 3v4 anyway

Is it even possible for solo hero league to be fun? I don't think a hero exists that can carry this much retard-weight on their back.
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>>179862171
>Malthael has mad sustain in a fight

I must be doing something wrong, cause all that happens is I go in, and every enemy drops everything they were doing to blow me up
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>>179863029
This is the reason why I do my placement matches when the season is about to end, people take the game way too seriously in ranked.
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>>179863202
if they actually took the game seriously, then they'd be trying to win every game
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>>179862771
I hope the person doing the requests doesn't count this as a completed one, but I spent 5 minutes in paint doing this because it made me giggle.
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>>179863119
Q build and Tormented Souls
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>>179863319
It depends on how you look at it. They might be into the mindset that Medivh is a shit hero (he has the worst winrate in the game, so it makes sense for people to think that even though he is pretty strong) and therefore sees no reason to play the game since they "already lost". A lot of people take ranked serious in the way that anything out of meta = an auto loss.
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>>179863467
Made me chuckle mate. Good work for low effort.
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Time for more shooing.
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nice game blizzard
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>have enough gold and gems that I could buy malthael right now
>don't want to do it because know summer event is around the corner and I'll fuck myself out of summer boxes

I hate this system, it's basically fuck you if you got all your characters high level
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>>179864009
I dread the time when I start opening my chests. I'll probably log everything I get in an excel sheet to try and track probabilities.
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>>179864031
thanks glad you like it
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>>179864009
Calling it:

A FUCKING HORSE
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>>179864167
i thought i picked ragnaros not abathur
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>>179864131
>get 500 gold every 5 levels
>when before 2.0 you could only get 1000 gold at lv 15 and 2000 gold at lv 20 and that was it
>stimpacks drop at common and rare rarities too for extra gold per game
>implying this is worse and/or a fuck you
git gud
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>>179864131
>He doesn't have all of the skins he wants
>He's not hoarding up shards right now

The more you play the less you gotta worry about not getting the skins you want in events.
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>>179864262
You picked Lava Wave. Close enough.
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>>179864170
>>179864158
Solid. Don't actually own Dehaka yet though.
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>>179864413
meme wave let's me pretend i'm a specialist
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>>179863119
>>179863494
The problem I find with Malthael is even your own team won't know how Malthael works, so you will strike into their team and blow everything, stay alive for a good 8-12 seconds, take all of them to 40% hp, and then die before you team pulls their head out of their asses and engage.

Happens at least once per game since he's been out, and it's definitely not during those "Illidan style chasing them into oblivion" moments either, it's prime teamfights and the team just sits back motionless as I succ off 5 people and they revel in my fancy misty moves.
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>>179864551
I'm more of a fan of Pack Leader Dehaka, but I can see the appeal of this skin. Second best color too.
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>>179863119
if you playing QM and you are the only melee on your team you are gonna die, just like any other hero in that situation

if you actually have a tank you're gonna be better off
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>Want to play Sylvanas in unranked draft
>Enemy Jaina bans her
>OhBabyYouMessedUp.exe
>Instalock Zeratul
>We win because I kept void prisoning the 4 of her teammates and hunting her down
>mfw I solo killed her 18 times in one game and got MVP for it
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>Long term goal of reaching level 15 with every character
>Checks lifetime winrate
>Pic related is lowest
>The urge of wanting to kill myself grows
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So today I bought TLV. First map in vs ai was Hana of course. Should I have put Erik with Olaf? It seems Baelog and Olaf were kinda meh. Also it's going to be something to learn how to micro manage, but it's not difficult far as I see it.
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>>179865575
>things that didn't happen
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moonfire malfurion can actually trade with most assassins
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>>179865680

>Things that actually happened

My team originally wanted to report me for trolling. I only went for Jaina.
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how do you build dehaka nowdays?
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>reach level 20 on nazeebo
>press Q
>delete any non-warrior

how is this balanced, like the majority of my games except hanamura go to level 20
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>>179866117
This is what I tend to go with, so pretty much the same as the old. The level one talent can be swapped out for bush speed increase, but I'm not too sure what maps it's better on.
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>>179866117

2 > 2 > 3 > Adaptation > 3 > 3 > 4, is what I build, I haven't played him much but it does alright.
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>>179859681
Gotcha senpai.
*UUUUUUUUUUUH-ing Intensifies*
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>>179864597

>Holy fucking shit this. Enemy is all clumped, too good an opportunity
>Go in and start spreading mist
>Everyone inflicted taking damage
>Mashing Q while attacking but eventually overwhelmed
>Look over and entire team is too busy jacking off
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Why does it seem like level gaps rubber band very quickly between 16-20?
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>>179867025
Comeback XP
16-20 is a bloodbath usually, kills mean much more at this level because most heroes get their major game changing power spikes at 13, 16, and 20
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>play with friend
>decide it's Cho'Gall time
>uh oh enemy Malthael!
>punch him into the floor over and over

Happened in 3 separate games. Hard counter my ass.
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ming is so trash in qm
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>start new Brawl
>win first round
>during selection for round 2 it tells me to participate or be flagged afk
>start of round 2 everyone gets kicked simultaneously for afk
>reconnect
>after ages I'm back in
>get immediatly booted to loss screen
great game there Blizz
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>>179866334
I can't say f.a.m ? I can understand c.u.c.k but c'mon.
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>>179867789
It is when your opponent isn't brain dead
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>>179863685
This is accurate.

One of the morons in question just said dumb shit like omg 37.whatever% winrate we lose impossible to win
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>>179867938
>playing BRawl
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>>179867858

how?
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>>179868035
I'll believe it when it happens. Until then it's just people theorycrafting with no actual experience.
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>Top 3 are Valeera, Auriel and Li Ming

Why am I always a waifufag
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if you want something done, you have to do it yourself.
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>>179867789
I don't get why people think this.

>>179868035
Malthael literally does less damage to Cho'gall than Leoric, and Leoric loses to Cho'gall as long as the duo aren't idiots.
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Does anyone want to help me grind out these play as Diablo characters mission? Na?
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>>179868295
carrying QM is about playing a strong duelist and skirmisher, while also having good wave clear. ming has good poke for team play but QM doesn't play as a team, they usually dont even have a support. also add the fact that 90% of the games in qm are packing 3 zeratuls and 5 novas, it makes it even worse.

shes still really good in ranked of course.
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Christ the Vikings aren't easy to master. Is there a command to keep a viking following the minion lane? I have to keep checking the map to make sure they're soaking the XP and not standing in the center of the lane.
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>>179868609
Press L to just lock the camera on the hero.
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>>179869329
>I have to keep checking the map to make sure they're soaking the XP and not standing in the center of the lane.
It's called "micromanagement" for a reason, Anon.
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>>179860714
>>179859681


WIP
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>>179869704
Based
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>>179869180
Just pick defensive talents in QM.
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>>179869704
HE'S ACTUALLY DOING IT
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>>179865672
I do Erik alone because he's more fun to control.
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>>179869704
Fucking awesome.
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>>179869680
Y-yeah.
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>>179869704
SEND IT TO VALVE IF YOU FINISH IT! POST RESULTS!
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>>179870602
>>179870165
>>179870103
>>179869993
>>179869840
>>179869704
>Drawing him with an Iris
Kill yourself you nigger
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>>179870910
I-it's just where I will place the eye glow when it is done!
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>>179870910

Why're you pointlessly hostile? Is it funny to you? Grow up already.
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>>179869180
>carrying QM is about playing a strong duelist and skirmisher, while also having good wave clear
Which heroes are these?
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>>179871509
Gotta suck some e dick you fucking redditor

tumblr is
>>>>>that /way/
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>>179871509
>>179870910
le internet hate machine may may
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>>179869704
Put some cropped lili porn image on the monitor
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>>179871716
Hackers on Steroids
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>>179871642

Retard
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>>179869329
>only 3 units to monitor
>no real map awareness needed
>somehow putting a viking in a bush for passive soaking is hard

never play abathur
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>ignore golems pretty much all game
>get my 20 and quest
>fat siege damage
>lose

am I playing zeebo right

Also I have not ONCE seen a Malthael take the respawn instantly talent when they're actually dying a lot and just one more body would make the remaining 2v2 over the objective a 2v3, it's so annoying
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>>179872360
Nazeebo is more of a team fighter
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>>179872462
but how do you get your voodoo if you're always teamfighting, whenever I teamfight I'm always ~100 at level 20
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>>179871642
>ur reddit
>ur tumblard
Get your ass back to /v/.
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>>179871980
Not being rude anon, but cropped porn means suggestive, not showing the pubes and the flappy flaps.
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>>179872563
Throw some spiders and frogs at a minion wave on the way to a team fight.
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>>179872151
I can do that? I figure their ai would be retarded and just never attack unless I specifically told them to.

Or am I really not understanding how range and engagement work and I'm a dummy?
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>>179872678
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So how many viable solo healers are left?
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So shouldn't the summer bundle of all the skins be about 1020, assuming you own the heroes that apparently come with it?

3 skins at 400 shards each = 1200, and there's typically a 15% discount on bundles so it should be like, 1020?

Unless they're actually releasing way more skins than they showed in the in dev video
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>>179872856
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>take Headhunter
>need to kill Genji
>every time he's about to die he drops X-Strike and dashes away
>can't chase because no trees for me to swing from
>never finish it
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Genji.
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>>179872874
3
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>>179873071
>Lili
>solohealer

if the enemy has had their Q W E and D keys removed, sure
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>>179873037
>picking headhunter

hahaha what a mongoloid
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>>179873124
>pic unrelated
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Finally gonna give her a whirl.

What can I expect? Is she any good or is she in need of an update/tuning?
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>>179873319
then put that in your post you nugget
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>>179873421
1k damage orbs

being annoyed when trying to fight in lane because your orb tapping one minion will make it pop
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>>179873767
So a lot of positioning involved. What about survivability and Rs? I know she's a stealthy magnet and most seem to go for the beam but any reason to get the wave?
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>>179873421
Minions, and anything that can spawn minion are a nightmare.
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>>179874138
Needs a talent where she'll go through the first target. Or ignore minions and only hit heroes.
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>>179874261
No, she doesn't.

Don't be silly.
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>>179873767

>About to fucking explode the shit out of Leoric
>Random fucking locust out of nowhere

>>179874261

That'd be broken as shit dude
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>>179874095
wave used to be the go to choice because ETC was popular and you needed something to stop the channel

basically if there's a channel you need to interrupt = wave, otherwise beam is mostly better

if you're getting hunted too much her teleport talents and missiles actually do a lot to help her stay alive
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>>179873680
Make me
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They really need to speed up the XP gain now that leveling up has actual tangible rewards. It's utterly fucking miserable to level anyone above level 6
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>>179872678
woah frick off you toxic shitlord he's free to express himself however he wants as an artist stop trying to censor him you literal nazi
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who else should I buy if I really wanna tryhard ranked

I don't own hammer, varian, sonya, cassia, and nova I've just played them on past f2p rotations
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post Striker Li Ming
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BUTCHERLISK, LEND ME YOUR STRENGTH
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>>179874757
Dude what kind of cuck are ya? I'm totally based! Hail Trump our eternal God Emperor! /v/ is the most based board on the whole 4 chinz. I can do more edgy shitposting here than I've ever dreamed of on the_donald!!!
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>>179866292
Should basically be taking Enhanced Agility at 1 all the time unless you have a solo lane you desperately need to win (e.g. Braxis). Also swap Primal Swarm for Primal Rage or Ferocious Stalker at 13. It's not good unless you go full W build.
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>>179875625
The meme dream.
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>>179867789
only retards think malth is a hard counter to cho'gall

tychus is better but you can still just whack him with the ol' hammer of twilight to get him out of your face until his minigun timer runs out
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>>179852464
>tfw i remembered someone bitching about tyrande being a piece of meat on bnet forums, and how she's not a "stronk independent women"
Bitch, she led a country for 10000 years
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>>179872819
>never attack
you don't need your vikings to constantly be attacking and pushing the minion wave all game
you just need to absorb xp in all 3 lanes and not die (because dying means you stop absorbing xp)
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>>179876137
>all that drama over a garrison shipyard vessel during wod
People are funny.

>>179872819
You don't always want to push the wave, or even make your presence known.
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>>179876330
So I only REALLY need to spit push in the early game? How else am I gonna get bribe.

I'm sure these are very dumb questions, but I legit wanna understand these Vikings.
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>>179876471
Sauce? Please.
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>>179876558
there was exactly 1 person that complained which spawned literally like 500 forum posts talking about how sjws are ruining video games
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>>179876504
You soak every lane at once and hope that people understand that they should four man roam and deathball because you're picking up the XP slack. You really don't need to be that close to the minion wave to get credit/XP for kills. I'm pretty sure 'enemies killed near TLV' just means you're in XP range. which is very high. You can have your vikings just sitting at the fucking gate as long as they're hanging out and getting xp you're doing your job
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>>179876938
No, i mean on the Nove, is it sfm?
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>>179877037
Ok so I can send all my vikings into the bushes of all three lanes, and then soak the XP near minions getting killed either by another hero, or friendly minions/mercs?

Fuck no one ever told me that. That changed everything!
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>>179877165
>>>/r/
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>>179877227
Don't forget to hop between them to pick up regen globes, though. Gotta make your D big.
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>>179877227
If there is another hero just sitting in the lane hitting minions your team is fucking up.
If you are playing vikings your team has no reason to sit around in lane because you are already getting all the xp. Encourage them to group up as 4 and go push/gank/do objectives
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>>179877227
Yeah.
Good viking play is about sitting safely, soaking XP, picking up hearts, and collecting all the XP while your team roams as 4 to gank enemy soakers.
If your team is not getting ganks like clockwork they're not playing properly.
As a vikings player you really want to team-up with a tank player so you can tell your team to follow the tank, since your tank friend presumably knows that he needs to just keep roaming and not worry about minion waves or gates since that's what you're there for.
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>>179859681
Draw KT
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>>179878036
Ok got it! That question was just a general on how "soaking" works. I always figured it was your simple "Beat the minion's faces in to earn XP".
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>>179878338
Yeah you actually just have to be in range when they die. Also applicable to heroes who aren't vikings. If you're low hp or otherwise losing your solo lane badly, instead of trying to hit the minions or enemy hero and possibly risk dying, just sit back at the edge of xp range and stay safe.
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remember when people said vikings are OP on Hanamura?
good times
good times
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>>179878208
>gates
I thought I wasn't supposed to push minion waves really? also I suppose I should keep occasionally sending Erik off to spend my bribes.
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>BHB in ranked
I forgot how much I hated this map.
They should simply remove it from the game like haunted mines and redo it.
A pvp game doesn't need a pve map.
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Why is everyone that plays this game a big pussy? I mean whenever someone has a shitty attitude and they whisper you after a game. They say some stupid insult and then they aren't man enough to get a reply back and they block you. Everytime someone does this I think of them as a complete beta male. It doesn't just happen to me either, it's happened to my friends. Every. Single. Time. The community needs to grow some balls.
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>>179878538
Of course you're not supposed to push them early.
But when your team is deathballing for ganks, you end up with vikings in lanes that your opponent isn't manning. Use those times to grab mercs or to just destroy their gate, depending on what the situation calls for.
Also everyone underestimates the damage of merc lord.
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>>179878924
moba players have paper thin skin
blizzard players have paper thin skin

hots apparently has a reputation for being not/less toxic
which just makes everybody a passive-aggressive cunt

so yeah just a big ball of oversensitivity, emotion, ego and whatever
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>>179878924
>it's happened
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When do daily quests reset now?
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>>179879113
Dammit.
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>>179879197
Soonâ„¢
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>>179879036
The armor bonus from it also really helps if you have your vikings each help push a lane.
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>>179875625
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>>179879290
>>179875625
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POST YOUR ID RN

I NEED TO GET THESE FUCKING DIABLO MISSIONS DONE
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>>179878765
How is it any different from sky temple or Spider lair?
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>>179878924
Never happened to me in hots, but yeah, moba players are special...
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>>179879731
There's this thing where Blackheart's Bay only allows you to turn in at one spot.
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>>179879731
fucking huge map with objectives either all over the map (coins) or far far away from the lanes (turn in point)
Not to mention that chest cant be timed cause 45 seconds RNG window because fuck team fights on my solo camp split pushing map.
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>kael can't land stun
>"GIVE ME PEEL TANKS WAHH"
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>>179880031
SALAMI
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>>179880450
I SHALL IGNORE ALL
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now that the dust has settled which cloud mount has the best effects? happy, sad, or angry?
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>>179880561
Angry
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>>179880561
Sad
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>>179880561
Happy
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>>179880634
>>179880802
>>179880864
glad the dust has settled x)
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>>179880561
The regular yellow cloud so you can be goku from the original dragon ball before all that Z shit.
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>>179880561
>tfw got the sad cloud from a common chest
>only play Abathur
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why do these clouds cost 800 more shekels than regular legendaries?
are their prices going to drop? or are they available for a limited time? what is this jewery
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>>179881818
(You) enhanced, improved
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Why does these new hero cost 5000 more doubloons than regular heroes?
are his's princes going to drop? or are they assailable for a limited dime?
what did they mean by this
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>>179884281
new heroes always cost 15000 temporarily
the new cosmetics cost 150% as many shards as well
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Do i pick X-Strike or Dragonstrike when playing Gengu?
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Guess who won. You'd be surprised.
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What the hell is going on with the brawl? Both games we all got booted for not enough players, and during the second one I got an afk warning while picking heroes.
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is there anything uglier than grubby's thumbnails? I don't think so
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>>179884754
Blue
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>>179884626
Dragonblade
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>>179884626
dragonblade turns you into illidan basically: good at chasing and high sustained damage but not too useful if the enemy actually uses disables or focus fire
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what the fuck is this talent description

everything here is a passive effect
there is no activatable button on this talent
why is only half of it under the "Passive:" header
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>>179885572
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is sonya's slam considered physical or spell damage?
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>>179886007
All spells counts as spell damage.
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I'm done teaming up in this game
Which Heroes are the best to solo with?
I had great fun with Zagara but I don't have any escapes which fucks me up quite often
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>>179885057
Correct! We got completely fucked
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>>179885808
it's not as retarded as Tass's "Passive: activating archon refreshes the cooldown of phase shift" though
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>>179886121
Just spread your creep better and keep shoving lanes. You should have plenty of vision around you to get wind of someone wheeling in for a gank. Go nydus and put a few up for huge map presence and to piss off people trying to hunt you down by just porting to the other side of the map.

Abathur is probably the primo 'fuck everyone else' character, sit in a lane and hat people in another one for easy xp/mvp.
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>>179866256
>lv 17 as raynor
>Spiders land kinda near me
>Half my health gone
Fuck is this no effort bull shit
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>>179887238
le mayo don't get hit you idiot
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>>179852464
As a woman, growing up playing video games, I didn't even realize the effect of lack of options for female characters until recently when we started getting more playable women (not saying we have enough, but it's looking better). I didn't realize how much easier it is to relate to the character, how different the whole gaming experience can be. The same applies to films as well, as you mentioned Wonder Woman. I've read so many posts form women who broke into tears during the action sequences in the movie (I might or might not be one of those women). That's how depraved we've been of non-sexualized female heroes. Watching the movie was like putting glasses on for the first time - is this how good this is supposed to feel like? To feel represented?
And I'm a grown woman. If I feel this way, then I can't even begin to imagine how little girls looking for a role model feel.
This went on to be a bit of rant, but as an avid wow and hots player, I just want to thank Blizzard for the 'strong' (I don't really want to use that term, but for a lacks of a better word) and complex women present in game and in lore. But please, don't stop there. There's still work to be done.
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wow this brawl if fucking buggy as hell

first i get afk kicked twice for no reason, now it crashes the whole game
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>>179887636
V E G A S
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>>179887636
>non-sexualized females
>HotS
Loving every laugh. Reminder that based Dustin gave SJWs the middle finger during an interview.
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>>179888065
>Reminder that based Dustin gave SJWs the middle finger during an interview.

Link? I'd like to see that
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>>179888065
I actually vaguely remember that, but I can't remember where it happened.
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>>179888104
>>179888241

and then the faggot did a crybaby follow up article

just look for rock paper shotgun dustin browder
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why no daily quest reset?

i thought they reset 20 min ago
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>>179888417
>Uh-huh. Cool. Totally.
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>>179888605
they changed the time for some reason
its really retarded now

>>179887636
can you link it?
i wasnt able to find it
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>>179888726
It's just a comment in that thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6hgjiz/hots_wonder_woman_young_girls_and_empowerment/diz5339/
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gonna play nova in QM to get my level 175 epic chest
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are they ripping off deviant art guys now? what the fuck is this
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>>179889148
What are you even talking about
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>>179887636

>a superhero who started as some dweeb's S&M fantasy
>not sexualized

keep bringing the laughs, tranny
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>>179889504
it looks like shit
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>>179889660
millennial detected
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>>179890179
what are you even talking about?
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>>179890217
You looks like shit
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>>179889660
only shit here is your taste
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>>179889148
Somebody post Li Ming. You know which one.
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>>179852464
I identify with a zergling rush because I come too early and nobody likes me
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>>179890789
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just got murky and i must say he is the most fun hero iv played yet.
i got a chest with abathar in it, is he any good?
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>>179890789
this cute dude?
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>>179889148
They commission ""artists"" from various sites like da and artstation. They really don't give a shit about the hand drawn art in this game.
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>>179890875
sensiblechuckle.gif
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>>179880031
So? Tanks should still peel when their mages get dived
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>>179886121
>done teaming up
Looks like you need another game
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>>179892884
i've been playing need for speed again since then
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When is Leoric a good pick? Do you basically go by how many people on the other team can escape your entomb?
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>>179893259
Does the enemy have two tanks and two good entomb targets?
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>>179893259
when you have to pick a solo laner to go agaisnt Sonya. remember to pick block at lvl 1 and you'll win every time
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>>179893367
why not pick zagara
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If I want to dive into the hot mess that is Hero League, what are recommended heroes that I should own and know how to play well?

I'm fairly confident in my Dehaka, Muradin, Johanna, and Tyrael (all around Level 11-12). I'm specifically looking into more Warriors and Supports, and a few Assassins in case I need to flex
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>>179893607
Anub and Arthas for warriors.
Greymane and a mage or two of your choice for assassins.
Uther and pretty much anyone except auriel or Lili for healer.
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does anybody have a video with the raptor animations?
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>>179893787
I was thinking of learning those two Warriors too, are there any other suggestions that cover for the rest of the group?

Greymane looks tricky, I'll probably try to learn Li Ming and/or Jaina first

Why not Auriel or Lili?
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>>179893904
Auriel is pretty reliant on her team mates. If your allies won't fight, she can't heal.
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>>179893904
Auriel is the second best healer ingame, but if and only if, you have a godlike DPS to crown. You won't have that.
Li Li can't heal outside of her ult.

In terms of warriors, that's already up to 6, and 5 of those can maintank (not Tyrael), so you really should be fine until something gets buffed or nerfed.

If you don't like Gryman, Falstad is nice. He's basically a slightly safer Valla with a global.
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>>179893849
what animations
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i think i made my greatest murky play ever today

>entire team is ded, have 35/40 creeps for punisher, entire enemy team is on the point
>heroically waddle on over and throw myself onto the point and die almost instantly, but the pufferfish i shat out goes unnoticed and gets the remaining 5 creeps
>get arcane punisher and win
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Is morales the shittest tumblr excuse for blizzard not adding the best girl?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_FgTLnyuc
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>>179894120

>>179856803
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>>179894168
I like Morales voice more desu.
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>>179875625
Haha, awesome.
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I think Raptor-chan is cute.

When you stop riding it makes a noise.
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>>179875625
FRESH ESSENCE
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>>179893939
>>179894038
>mfw auriel is my highest winrate character in silver because I take Q spam build and empathetic link

don't need damage when you are the damage
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>>179895248
>emphatetic
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>>179895248

Imo energizing cord is better. You can a decent chunk from whipping a wave, good for emergencies.
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>>179895248
>empathic link
so this is what silver is like
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>>179895384
Doesn't that only affect auto attacks?
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>>179875129
you can do just fine with what you own

Gul'dan
Falstad
Leoric
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>>179894168
I feel conflicted about hero characterization in this game. On one hand, I feel like they really nailed and even improved on some heroes. Leoric is a great example - his character's voice, dialogue, and even the subtle shit like movement is all better than in Diablo 3. I actually tried out the D3 demo because of how well designed he is in hots, and was severely disappointed. Cho'gall has a real personality in hots instead of an ugly triangle that argues with itself. Alarak was always great but HotS just refines it all the more.

Morales on the contrary just feels bland. Would've been nicer if she displayed more hostility to aliens, or interacted with the other SC heroes better than what currently amounts to her saying "h-hey man." All the hots donut steels have a bit of blandness to them but she suffers from it the worst.
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>>179889148
this looks awesome - what's the problem ?
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>>179896015
you are the problem
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>>179895659
It does, but it adds a surprisingly large amount of energy. That guy is dumb.
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>win first round of brawl
>second round
>both teams disconnect
>rejoin into dc
>game over
>1/2 brawls done

I'm okay with this, one less round of this shit to play
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>>179895758
True. I like Lunara's utter bitchiness and BW's murderous catebear thing.

Her voice is pretty, especially without the modulator with the alchemist skin. And I actually like when she uses the EMS jargon, but her other lines are dull.
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>>179895758
>Cho'gall has a real personality in hots instead of an ugly triangle that argues with itself
But he does argue with himself in Hots
>Would've been nicer if she displayed more hostility to aliens,
But she does

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Lt.%20Morales/Lt.%20Morales%20-%20Default/Medic_IntroQuestion_Protoss00.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Lt.%20Morales/Lt.%20Morales%20-%20Default/Medic_IntroQuestion_Zerg00.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Lt.%20Morales/Lt.%20Morales%20-%20Default/Medic_IntroResponse_Protoss00.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Lt.%20Morales/Lt.%20Morales%20-%20Default/Medic_KillProtoss00.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Lt.%20Morales/Lt.%20Morales%20-%20Default/Medic_KillPandaren00.mp3
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Anyone got a webm of the raptor mount?
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>>179896830
>But he does argue with himself in Hots

Yes, but the dialogue is improved. Even in the joke lines, there's actual interaction between them that was missing from their Cata version.

>But she does

More hostility than "aw jeeze I'm working with an alien" would be nice. She doesn't have to go 40k space marine tier with it, but the meanest she gets is in the 4th link. And that pandaren one isn't even hostile. Again, compare her lines with Leoric's. Even when he's acting relatively amicable the lines at least imply something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGLV7yqs_7E

Leoric does have more history with the D3 protagonists to work with. But considering these are the aliens that are vaporizing, eating, and exploding her people and patients she would have something deeper to say than "Protoss, great."
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>>179897372
>More hostility than "aw jeeze I'm working with an alien" would be nice
The "Only good alien is a dead alien" is not enough for you?
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What's the best use of Murky's beta uprising?
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>>179892526
>try to do placements
>getting matched with bronze and silver players
Why? Why do I get punished in ranked for getting matched with literal retards in QM? Can you even climb out of QM hell?
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>>179895758
>>179896351

SC2 medic voice feels right, but then its a different character.

also, its not anger, its sheer stupidity coming from blizzard's SoCal interns on trying to make this game look "correct" as OW, but committing a shitload of stupidities and developing sins at the same time

Atleast Sc2 team managed to remedy that by making the Dead At night Co-Op campaign, by giving her a "good" story and personality, and at the same time retconing her as the SCBW medic Unit, instead of a nobody.

the only thing that blizzard needs to do now is fix her face and give her a proper skin

really, her face is ugly as sin
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>>179897980
Tbh, not really. It's a pretty generic line. Garithos isn't known for being a human supremacist for having a near-identical line in wc3. He got it for locking up blood elves, sending in dorfs to die, and calling everyone subhuman when he got the chance.

Now, does she have go full 14/88 irradiate the zerg? No, but it would be nice to have a bit more characterization in some form. Is more characterization needed? No, it's a hero action brawler assfaggots and the writing isn't at all important. And if bland characters are your thing then you have someone else to play after you've leveled Raynor to 75.

But it is lazy. And not in a way that's fun like with the Butcher (because of course he's going to do nothing but growl) or Murky who's a walking murloc fetus.

t. Morales is my second favorite support.

>>179898476
I'll have to check that out, thanks.
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>>179898439
Whoops didnt mean to qoute.
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so finally not a shitty overwatch hero came.
how is malthael? I haven't had much time to play lately.
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>>179898476
>her face is ugly as sin
There is nothing wrong with her face
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>>179899014

He's alright. You can't go hard with him, you'll get blown up.
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>>179899014

if you want bosses or tanky shit dead, chose him hes op than lunara when it comes to that

>>179899501
its bad, her SC2 face may be a re skin but it looks better

if i were to say something a bit far more extreme, she looks like a memey mexican maid with that face, from an 90's novel

it doesn't look like her old SC1 portrait, it feels rushed like Kerrigan's model or the LK
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>>179899501
t. ugly roastie/beta whiteknight orbiter numale
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>>179899014
He's a jungler who has a slightly weaker lunara poison but it's far easier for him to spread it across the entire enemy team.
His big weakness is he has no real way to burst people, just to slowly wittle away at them and hope they don't murder him in the mean time.
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>>179900134

And more people are realizing they can just kill his ass instead of panicking and autoclicking back to base.
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>tfw no more waifu on menu screen
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>>179894260
She has really cool quotes that she never says. Medics in SC have 2 personalities. They either act like a medic or act like a medivac.

>>179899501
Her face and her ass. Whenever I queue as her in QM I stare at her ass and it has some weird, sharp, angular polygons to it. I heard blizz was giving her a rework? Might as well do another pass on her models and animation. Her deadpan face really throws her off. Worse yet that she's always staring at you with it.
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Did they do something to valla? 2 in every game today
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>>179901324
The diablo thing.
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>>179898476
>SoCal
it all makes sense now
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how the fuck do i play leoric?, i feel so useless and unimpactful with him
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I haven't played in ages, and even back then rather casually.

What's the best approach to buying new heroes? Getting their bundle when they come out? Just buying them with gold? Does their price drop a while after they came out?
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>>179901560
Slap people with your spooky hand and behead all traitors.
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>>179901617
gold is only used for heroes and box rerolls
so you should only buy them with gold unless you really like the hero and the skin its bundled with
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even in casual babby's first moba i get bullied and silenced by blizzard's awesome report system
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>>179901883
you should buy some of these fidget things to keep your fingers occupied
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Can this stupid diablo quest be done in AI games?
Are there groups doing 5 min AI games for this?
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>>179902628
holy shit just read the quest what the fuck are you doing
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>>179901450

Its Anaheim for fucks sake
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>>179902671
why not Bnaheim?
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>>179901959
Those are for """people""" with ADHD, not alpha chad autismos like me, breh
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>>179902750
what are you doing?
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>>179902756

at this rate we may cal it Betaheim because all kinds of SJW shit lives there, even Ullanor/Armageddon looks civilized
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>>179899873
>>179901196
But what's wrong with her face?
>>179899903
What
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>>179852191
is playing vs AI with friend the fastest way to the the malthael bargain reward?
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>>179895586

>implying empathic link is not the one and only viable talent up to masters

Bruh, the 2 sec cd reduction on heal won't do shit when your team can't do reliable damage whole time, better have 4 sec cd but use it on someone in frontline and have full energy whole time

Works well with the level 16 talent which increases your energy up to infinity, healing for 2k+ every 4 sec won't be unusal after minute 20
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>>179905064
Read the fucking quest you literally brainamputated neanderthal, asking the same question twice won't fish you an answer. Fuck off.
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>>179900958
I always think it's a sin they don't have a rotating hero screen like OW does
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>>179905192
>Picking Pathetic Link for Reservoir of Hope instead of Glimmer of Hope
Please just stop playing Auriel.
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>>179878924

Well on mechanics...

>Get CC'd once, die
>OP shit has a death radius, basically
>One mistake and you die OVER AND OVER due to snowballing mechanics - not nearly as bad in HOTS as in other games, but still.

Community

>Team games instantly equate to bile and bitterness when mistakes happen.
>Blocked all chat means bullshit stays on your team most of the time
>Everyone wants to be that nigger who gets the last word in.
>Blocking someone afterwards confirms just that.
Sorry, but that's the way multiplayer forced imprisonment team-building exercise games are. If leaving had no penalty, it'd be people popping out of games within 2 minutes of seeing enemy teamcomps.

>This community needs to grow some balls.
Nope. HoTS is by retards, for retards who can't play DOTA/LoL/Dedgate/HoN. People like me who can't stand last hitting and generally can't function when it comes to autism minigames like gold management
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>still no dreadlord
His kit could be implemented in hots with very few changes. What is taking so long? We could use more supports even if it was a sustain support
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>>179901196

>Morales' ass

Tell me more about that, anon
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>>179880031

>Enemy KT gets peel when someone LOOKS at him funny.

>Our KT gets his skin peeled off before the tank even notices that shit's going on. Goes ape-shit and calls our team bad. Instead of pyroblasting the enemy, he's busy getting everyone on the team pissed off at each other.

Mirror matches GO AND STAY GO
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>>179905296
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>>179905194
yes i have read it. question still stands.

is playing vs AI with friend the fastest way to the the malthael bargain reward?
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>>179905346
I like dota 2 more as something to watch but I can't stand playing it. Heroes is a small taste of the genre without me having to spend a hour dealing with all of the annoying shit.
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>>179905442
Play unrank and that all goes away
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How chill or ragey is unranked draft?
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>>179907426
What is the point in even playing unranked?
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>>179902628
We managed to get it down to 3:45 when we rushed bot as a 4 man and let the ai soak top.
My suggestion is naz/azmo
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>>179898476
>really, her face is ugly as sin

So you're saying she has a chance with Azmodan? OTP
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>>179907492
It's like ladder, but without any pressure to perform.
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>>179907426
Fun in my experience
You get a lot of creative people that want to try certain comps for fun
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>>179907492
when you want to play with people but don't want to play with mouthbreathing retards, and don't have 14 lvl 5heroes
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>start playing again for Malthael's Bargain
>finish match
>game crashes before scorescreen comes up
>make it back in
>leaver penalty
>no quest credit
good game
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>>179905391
We already have Jaina, you know.
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In my experience unranked is just qm with an added 5 minutes of drafting.
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>>179907946
XD
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>>179907492
So you can make a comp with your team but people don't feel as inclined to just go for the top tier picks.
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This map rotation sucks dick.
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>>179907946

But HOTS jaina is the real Jaina Anon

WoW is old Gods Cum dumpster 4 their tentacles
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>>179908306
What?
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>>179907946
>jessie cox jokes
epic!
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>>179901560
you're meant to be a big annoyance
just swagger around and behave like you have a big dick
shit out AOE slows, body block people, entomb people, all while dealing % damage or burn damage
if things get too hot, spooky walk out, and if you fuck up, continue being an annoyance as a ghost
leoric respawns faster, and he doesn't need to travel back when he respawns and he gives vision, so don't get too disheartened if you die
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>>179908504

jaina in wow is a bitch who loves tentacle rape
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>>179910364
No she isn't, you are just a massive retard
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>>179907426
very chilled usually. Players are there to either git good for Rank or try certain theme comps that QM would be hell to wait on
>Sky temple
>team picks lost vikings, Nova, Valeera, Samuro, and Zertaul
>lost vikings soak while the four of us roam as a pack picking off their support, and assassins.
>we don't even take the temples at first we just keep killing them as they try to take them and camps
>enemy team gets so lock out they just refuse to play past their forts
>game's over in less than 12 minutes
That shit in QM would have been a 10 minute Que that would have likely been mostly a mirror match. You can have some fun crazy games in unrank.
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>>179893849
Sauce on the image pls
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>>179901560
fuck shit up. Hard. Constantly.
Pick the beefiest targets for your W
Don't miss your W
Use Q before you W so that you can W longer
Use E and W when the opponent is locked down for whatever reason and you need to gtfo.
Use W essentially on CD unless you aren't in a teamfight or are about to be in a teamfight
DO NOT MISS YOUR W
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>>179910725
I say for beginners Q first then W who you hit, they need that extra help till they git good.
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>>179910725
ok, any advice on talent choice? any scenario/reason at all to pick the second heroic?
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>>179907492
Basically it's Quick Match with a tiny amount of effort put into composition.

>get into draft
>hurr guys imma play abathur build and play around me pls

just play ranked where this stuff happens less because people actually lose points

>>179901560
Don't miss the W.
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Will you guys play with me tonight? I suck
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>>179910903
take all spooky hands talents pretty much
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>>179910903
>any scenario/reason at all to pick the second heroic?
Yes, it's not shit like march of the black king and if you capture 2 or 3 of the enemy team in entomb and your team uses that moment to kill them team fights are won
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>>179911621
i was talking about march of the black king, my bad
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>>179911995
i literally have no idea when to take march, apart from maybe a coordinated team with medivh, who can portal people out of your tomb

otherwise, even if all your opponents have individual escape skills, you can entomb after they've burned them
or you can entomb to force them to use them early and then cancel the wall afterwards
or you can emtomb zero people and block pasageways for 4s
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>>179911158
>t.healslut
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>raptor animations
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can zeratul use VP to block the core damage on hanamura? it seems like it would be really strong if you coud just cuck the enemy team out of their 3-shot payload
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might actually be less retards this season but dont quote me on this
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>Trying to heal a teammate as he's ganked by 4
>He's running away from me
>Keep trying to get closer but he keeps going the other direction
>Dies
>Blames me
I'm uninstalling this fucking trash game.
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>>179913180
That's a dumb thing to say when you're on a winstreak, you're not that good, multiply every win you have by 5 and that's how many trash players you've met this season.
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>>179912858
nice reddit meme! upvoted!
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>>179913618
>multiply every win you have by 5 and that's how many trash players you've met this season.

kek
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>>179913618

usally after my placements i go from plat to gold then got fight myself back to in plat to D for the last 3 seasons

but yes stupid to say jinx myself now
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>>179912996
Yes you can
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>>179912858
>he hates muh'ghin fucking breadcrumbs just cause its from reddit
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>>179913180

fking johanna and jaina have almost the same hero icon
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>>179912996
For a few seconds I'd assume.
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>>179913771
I just googled "duck stomping gif", I had no idea of it's origins you sperglord
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>>179914909
hello r.ddit
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Here's a little update on the now non-official waifu group pic. Probably Zarya/Hammer next unless someone has a more interesting duo in mind.

http://imgur.com/a/fjr0t
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>Dueling someone with Azmo laser build
>They have no CC
>Still outdps me and kill me

:^(
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>>179914736

shit just notice lol
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>>179915496
Definitely do Zarya/Hammer, we need more thicc hammer!
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>>179915496
wat is with the hammer lewd, did u color it ?
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>>179897372
Wow Leoric seems a lot more chill and self aware about his madness caused by Diablo in the dialogues, most of his combat quotes that I hear with "THIS CONSPIRACY SHALL BE ROOTED OUT" made it sound like he's just perpetually insane
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>>179915496
Why are they sad?
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>>179916129
you're not there to play with them
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>>179916129
They haven't been dicked in over 10 minutes
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>>179916247
To me they look like they've been dicked too much
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Requesting Kaijo Diablo doing teh lewds with a raptor mount.
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>lose game
>"Waiting for game results..."
>get no exp or gold for the game
this has happened my past 4 games in a row, pls help
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>>179915496
Do a silly zagara/brightwing bikini picture, or pair lunara with kerri or li li
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>>179916456
Is a bug but you do get the exp and the gold.
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>QM as morales with friends
>Enemy team is illidan, muradin, and diablo
No fun was had.
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>>179916928

first problem picking morals
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Why does nazeebo have iceblock?
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happy cloud mount best 2400 shards I've spent
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>>179917187
I just wanted some variety after picking the only good healer in the game 10 times.

More supports when?
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>>179916485
Mmmh Zag/Lunara, Brightwing and Lili need to be together for a THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR tier picture.
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>>179916083
>made it sound like he's just perpetually insane
Took you a while to figure that one out?
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>>179915496
give li ming / jaina link
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Why are the new cosmetics so fucking lame? No visual effects or anything.
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>Kharazim no longer counts as a support in QM

What the fuck were they thinking?
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were you satisfied with your top rank last season anon?
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>>179917716
Lazy jews
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>>179918071
D3 HL D2 TL
Nope, didn't get raptors
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>>179917629
http://g1138.tumblr.com/post/161649648379/now-with-color-and-some-other-picture-i-dont
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>>179917251
he's from a land before time
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>>179918071
>log in
>do placements
>collect welfare diamond
>quit

I guess.
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>>179917251
He used to have a "run like a nigger" talent but was deemed too strong and got nerfed.
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>>179915496
Are you only doing lewds?
I was hoping you could do something cute with Brightwing/Chromie.
You know, both being dragons and all.
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>AzGul'dan
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>>179918669
DO YOU EXPECT... CONGRATULATIONS?
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>>179852191
>decide to play ONE fucking ranked game
>first ranked game in about a month or so
>pick guldan
>last pick is support
>OF COURSE THIS NIGGER DOESNT GO AURIEL BECAUSE ITS ME PLAYING GULDAN IF ITS THE ENEMY TEAM THAT FAGGOT GOES AURIEL AND THEIR FKN GULDAN DOESNT DIE ALL GAME
>picks fucking lili
>team cant even fight becausemy tank is a retarded johana who uses trait arbitrarily for no fucking reason and my support is a lvl 50 account with no support heroes, doesnt say he doesnt have supports and ends up playing lili for the first time
>retard banning doesnt ban anub instead bans fucking brightwing BECAUSE GLOBALS ARE FUCKING BROKEN RIGHT XD
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT BRIGHTWING
>people start coming to my room to bother me about the dumbest shit
>game kicks me even though internet isnt down at lvl 20 with game about to be over
>come back 2 keeps down
>johana split pushes all game
fuck everything god damn it
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>>179919591
Welcome to bronze
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>>179918071
I'd be upset that I'm not master's if I ever got to diamond 1
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>>179862283
Make it a mecha raptor, then the janky movements will be part of its charm.
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Why is she so perfect, bros?
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>>179919903
because she's a man
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>>179920021
Masculine vagina
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is it really another 2 weeks until the summer event? I already bought all the skins from this patch
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>>179920021
Why do men make the best women?
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>>179919903
I want a drawfag to draw this scene with Sonya and Kael.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYkxCzBszOQ
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>>179917927
he counts as a support but, like tass/tyrande, not a "main healer".
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>>179919591
>>OF COURSE THIS NIGGER DOESNT GO AURIEL BECAUSE ITS ME PLAYING GULDAN IF ITS THE ENEMY TEAM THAT FAGGOT GOES AURIEL AND THEIR FKN GULDAN DOESNT DIE ALL GAME
probably didn't own auriel

>game has a draft phase where hero picks actually matter
>"you cannot pick this hero until you buy it first"
>somehow this doesn't count as pay-to-win
explain this hotsbabs
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So when is rehgar going to get molested by blizzard?
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>>179922976
He already had been, he's not even as good as Uther or Kharazim.
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>>179922976
Like a year ago my dude.

He used to be great, now he's the bare minimum.
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>>179923069
He's still one of the most popular solo supports. This wont go unnoticed by blizzard.
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>>179922962
then literally just play qm
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>>179922962
>game has a draft phase where hero picks actually matter
>"you cannot pick this hero until you buy it first"
Word up I love this game. but if I didn't get my 20 free heroes box I wouldn't play this.
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>>179922962
It's a way to insure you invest in learning a hero before playing them. Sure, you can always mooch the freeweek heroes, but you can't play those in competitive play. And if it weeds out shitheads like you, then it's a total win in my book.
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What's the reasoning that they made every support feel barely a whole character? It's gotta be already the least popular role. Is Cucking enemy kills too antifun for blizzard?
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>>179923665
Yes it is actually. When healers are too good they are manditory, and when they are bad you just take two instead.
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>>179919903
>>179921428

>a Stronk Nord Woman and a pussy high elf walks into a motel
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>>179923665
75% of a support's power is locked up in being the team healbot which is barely fun or interesting

i wish blizz just ignored the wow meme tank/dps/healer trinity
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PEPEEEEEEEEEEE
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Can't wait to see what happens to malfs win rate when it gets updated.
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>>179924031
kill you are self frogposter
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>>179923818
>>179923665
Too bad, it's already ingrained into the game that supports heal. Kinda wish all supports were Tyrande/monk/tass, some damage and some healing/absorbs with utility. Of course, their utility and damage needs to be tweaked.
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>>179923665
Because healing is just mandatory.

>>179923918
Same. Wish there was more flexibility but it'll probably always be easier and more forgiving to play with a ""support"" that'll nullify 90% of poke/mistakes.
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>>179924153
Yes. Everyone should be an assassin.
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>>179924178
i mean there's no avoiding it now because the game is already balanced around it
this is a dumb decision that can only be fixed/changed early on in the development cycle
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>Dyrus Voyboy and Scarra all got Master League in 3 weeks
>You aren't master league
What's you're excuse?
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>>179924628
I don't play for 8 hours a day and my qm winrate was in the shitter when I started ranked and climbing takes a while
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>>179924153
i don't even understand why they felt the need to include a "support" role
i mean they just added it because "other mobas have supports i guess so we gotta have them too lmao" even though hots supports are similar to those in name only

'support' in other games is not 'healbot', but 'hero who does their job without requiring much xp/gold'. i don't know about league but dota has plenty of supports that are strong disablers, magic damage nukers, gankers, etc, that take advantage of not needing farm to do their job by running around and bullying the enemy carries in the first half of the game
there's like 3 supports with heals in the entire game
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>>179924628
oh did scarra end up getting master

I recall seeing him attempt to play medivh a lot in low plat
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>>179924628
i;m bad at video games
also i spend my time fucking around and having fun in qm rather than specifically practicing to improve
and yes focused practice is a big part of Gitting Gud. there are a surprising number of shit tier bronzies/silver surfers/etc who think they just need to play X number of games and then they will "deserve" to rank up
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>>179923918
But I legit enjoy doing that.
I fucking love getting mvp with 0 deaths and some insane percentage of dmg healed.
Don't get me wrong absolutely destroying an enemy ganker that comes in on me during laning is great, but nothing beats supporting a huge push by mashing my face on my keyboard and watching bars bounce up and down
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>>179924917
in dota/league you don't need healing supports because you can get healing through items
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>>179887636
l personally didn't have any problem relating to the male heroes. When l was a girl l loved Wukong. I mean l wanted to be Wukong. Little girls (atleast this one) just look up to the strongest hero/heroine.

I didn't think having a lot of female characters mattered much until recently either.
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>>179925383
even with items the healing is all much slower than in hots
getting items for lifesteal or hp regen is more to keep you topped up while farming and laning than to save your life in teamfights, aside from Mekansm early game and Satanic late game.

and while satanic (175% lifesteal for 5 seconds or something) is capable of making huge hp swings, you can also counter it by just disabling the dude before he can hit anyone

there's nothing like the hots "everyone stand behind tank and poke at each other while getting healed back to full hp every 2 seconds" thing
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>>179923646
he's arguing about how shit it is to have to buy a hero to use it in a game that's draft dependant

you're arguing people should level a hero to 5 before using it in HL

you're going off on a different unrelated tangent
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>>179925647
>when i was a girl
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>>179925950
You don't have to play draft, there's always quick meme, you retard. And I said you don't have to buy a hero and can just squat and play the free hero rotation.
But seeing as how you can get heroes by using gold, earned by playing the fucking game, it's not a "pay to win" scheme like the idiot was suggesting.
You can acquire all heroes and all their skins and never pay a single dime. All by playing the game.
Such a hard concept to grasp.
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>>179925809
There are only 3 heals in the game capable of saving someone from death. 1 of which requires a great deal of skill to get the timing right. The rest just keep you in the fight a little longer.
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>>179910554
your mom lol
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>>179924917
Riot doesn't like healing supports so even though some supports have some healing abilities they're there for the utility
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>>179925647
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>tfw playing Tychus with the Tychus announcer against a tank heavy team

*takes a leisurely drag from cigar*

Gaw' damn that sho' was nice.
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>my future will inevitably be horrific losses with retards after this

Should I just quit forever?
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Is this the most "anti-fun" hero in the game? The only one I can think that might top her is anub.
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I like to play Support, but I wouldn't be opposed to all supports getting a healing nerf. I'm sick of people relying on me to keep them alive no matter what stupid thing they do.

The healing being a secondary aspect of "supporting" would be an interesting change.
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>>179926282
I see, I guess I'll have to play like an autist all day and unlock shit that way before diving into hero league. Too bad more than half the cast costs more than 4k and each new hero stays at 10k. Say what you want about dota, but they got it mostly right. Unlocking heroes through grinding or paying up is a definition of a p2w model, especially if you come from another assfagots game and have the knowledge about playing these kinds of games and you're cucked out of drafting shit unless you own them
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>>179927065
How do you do it? I consider myself good with Medivh, but whenever I want to pick him my allies are so against the idea that if I try they're just going to end up throwing it out of spite.
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>>179855428
>mfw winning a dragon shire game and none of the teams could get the dragon, not even once
I sometimes think its not about getting the dragon, but denying the other team while still pushing, capping mercs etc
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>>179927251
Fucking hell, you are literally retarded. Stay over in your dotashit threads because you're way too stupid to play anything else.
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>>179927251

speaking of dota, is Solo queue and ranked viable again as before the unified MM or its still shit?
also the grind isn't stupid, at least blizzard is putting some effort to reduce the autistic grinding

its easy to farm gold to buy some heroes
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>>179927135
The problem is many supports without their heals are just shitty assassins.
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>>179927449
Pretty much just have to be lucky enough not to encounter them. I had one of those games in there, funny story. Two people afk'd at the start because I picked medivh (it even fit our comp well) and one of them afk randomed their hero, yet we still won because a leoric on the enemy team was afking on our core power feeding.

Knowing that medivh is secretly an assassin that waits at your backline also helps.
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>>179927065
>winning with medivh
teach me, you must know some arcane secret
when do you place your portals? do you save them for a specific situation?
how often do you use raven form to scout deep in their territory?
does rank matter when picking medivh?
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>>179927484
Nice ad hominem faggot, I haven't played dota in like 2 years since valve made it their shitty hat simulator. Why don't you justify heroes dropping in price or releasing new ones that aren't all 10k? I played this game in the beta and came back when it released as 2,0 recently, I still don't have more than half the cast by playing 4-5 games a day. Imagine being a player that starts out now and you're locked out of a bunch of heroes because you also missed the classes pack
>>179927623
I wouldn't know, memebacks were enough to drive me away from it some time ago. I usually stuck around 4-5k mmr with occasional retards
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>>179927098
Lucio is 10x more annoying because if he and his team aren't dumb as fuck they will literally never die since he can just speed boost them away from a poor engage, or have some of the best chase in the game against anyone who isn't Genji
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>>179927887
In the early game I generally hover around our team Q spamming people, in the mid game I hover near back lines of enemies waiting to strike, requires knowledge of exactly how much you can get away with and still portal away

If you're against diablo or something else that can displace you it requires more care, but still possible to doodle them with Qs. Being able to portal dive behind walls and secure kills also helps.

I scout basically whenever it's needed, which is most of the time past mid game/level 10

I was dropped into plat4 due to my absolutely horrific trash dumpster teammates in my qualifiers, only went 5-5. It probably becomes easier to convince teammates medivh isn't a reason to kill irl and feed once everyone is diamond or master.

If you want to be a bird nigga I suggest watching grubby's youtube videos of his medivh games, I play similar to that.
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>>179927984
It takes like, a week to get 10k gold for a character. The game craps out stimpacks and gold for you endlessly, and you only really need a core of like 20 characters if you wanna do well in ranked since a shitload of them are suboptimal compared to others

Like you really don't have to own the whole cast if you wanna do well in ranked, there's like 3 tanks that are good in almost every situation, 4 supports, and specialists are a meme category that you don't really need.

I do agree it's dumb the mega bundles aren't just perpetually available to new players, I suspect they'll probably be back at some point, or similar bundles at least
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>nobody takes garden terror
>manage to grab it with 4s left
>team yells at me im doing it wrong
then take it you dumb fucks
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>>179852684
I just came back to hots and im still not sure how to kill Dva. Do you always need to kill her 2x, robot then the girl? Overall I havent had any trouble playing against her, the robot form seem quite weak and slow for a tank and the girl form i dont even know what it can do. Whats good about her?
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>>179929160
yes kill her twice. the only good thing is she's annoying and she can zone with her nuke
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The dumbest thing I love doing is double soaking as Xul on Blackheart's Bay
I love that sythe, swipe, swipe, mount up animation string

It's so relaxing and cathartic to just double soak those top two lanes all game
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>>179929160
her defense matrix lowers the dmg of anything in it by 75%
fucking bumper car mode can disrupt your formations
she does near assassin level dps with her pistol
attempts to kill her can be foiled by self destructing when low/calling in a new mech if focused
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>>179852464
Only thing about Blizzard games that is legitimately retarded for the sake of sexiness is how Kerrigan has high heels. It bothers me every time I see it. Fucking why did she evolve high heels? She can still look weirdly hot as an alien bug lady without the heels

Everything else is fine, even the dragon aspects being bikini supermodels for some reason.
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>>179929160
>Do you always need to kill her 2x, robot then the girl?
if you're confident/cocky and have good burst you can try to blow her up right after she uses self-destruct, before she gets back in the meka

for best results be varian and just parry the explosion
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Soup Dash Salak
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>playing a quick bot game
>bots are all using Legendary skins
rich fuckers
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>tfw no one takes wave clear
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>>179894168
>where does it hurt?

muh dick
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>>179907492
For me, faster to find matches and i actually enjoy the crazy comps you get. The only problem i have with it is playing with retards, but you get them in HL as well.
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I have unboxed literally every single Gazlowe skin despite not having touched the hero after grinding him to level 5 all the way back in Beta, or maybe even Alpha.

Is the game trying to tell me something?
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>>179930243
he's pretty much the ultimate solo hero that doesn't rely on teammates
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best murky build no alternatives
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>>179930529
wait what are you trying to do with this build? I don't understand getting Fish Oil if you didn't get the slime quest at 4
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>>179930710
Wave clear and rotate
Pressure map
Steal camps
Win objectives
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>>179929763
game devs need to stop stapling high heels to female characters just cause they're hot when it makes no fucking sense to have them

like bayonetta perpetually wearing heels makes sense but on samus and kerrigan it just makes you wonder why the fuck they would do that
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Last night I unboxed my 3rd buccaneer Falstad.

In a row.
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>>179930958
those characters' entire designs are based around being hot for no gameplay purpose
the only reason samus is a girl because the devs of the original Metroid wanted to reward you with a bikini skin for speedrunning fast enough
later on the Zero Suit was also made up just to look hot
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>>179930958
>samus
they're obviously special booster heels
>kerrigan
she's evolved way beyond humanity so balance isn't an issue, she's not wearing heels that's just how her feet look, they're specialized for optimum performance
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>>179929160
Pick Slyvanas and Mind Contol her when she leaves mech. Basically deletes her. There's not that many counter to Genji/DVA but they do exist.
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>>179854349
I don't know, but I'll be disappointed if they add Soldier 76 in any other time besides 76th hero.
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>>179929160
if I'm playing an assassin i'll just go yolo all in against dvas. when they inevitably try to zone with a self destruct i'll just kill the pilot form and sacrifice my life for it if i need to. especially in QP one assassin for a dva is usually a good trade since the disruption she can put out is way stronger in a teamfight than my DPS
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>>179911995
I always take march only because the name is dope af, then proceed to blow it too early and just watch the enemy walk away, keka
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>>179930896
so this build is just for laning more than anything else?

Something that always bothers me when playing murky is how bad he is at pushing towers yet so good at killing minions
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>>179931854
It is yet it isn't. If your team can pull the win from them losing D.va, then it's golden. If not, then you actually traded them more XP for your death than her 50%. There's a lot of times I'll sacrifice myself to kill a problematic assassin as D.Va, and if I know they'll dive my self destruct I'm more than willing to let them.
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>>179930710
Fish oil synergizes with tuffer-fish
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>>179932330
sort of. but you still have no way to keep heroes inside it and minions will let you just walk up and press Q
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>>179932446
I don't really like his build either, but in general I don't see what else you'd take at 16. Wrath of Cod is okay if you got grab I guess
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>>179931335
>she's evolved way beyond humanity so balance isn't an issue, she's not wearing heels that's just how her feet look, they're specialized for optimum performance
They look stupid though.
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Literally my entire game got kicked for inactivity right as the gates opened

thank you blizzard
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why is QM algorithm so fucking terrible

seriously the teams it assembles are just beyond fucking retarded

>lmao lets make a team with NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER XDD
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>>179933407
>Bruiser
>Supp
>Mage
>Support that does decent damage
>Tank

vs

>Bruiser
>Another Bruiser
>Specialist that doesn't really do good non-siege damage
>Assassin
>Support that does decent damage

not really seeing the issue tbqh
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>game alive
>new heroes fun
>boxes give reason to play more
>group of irl friends and gf play with me now
>threadwar shit subsided again
>kel'thuzad probably soon
>blizzcon only a few months away
>actually placed above gold this season
>all maps back in rotation
>raptor getting new animations
>most of my games are positive
>got a bunch of legendaries i wanted
>malf no longer king of supports
>tyrande fun to play
>stitches buffed
>thrall buffed
>uther god
>li li best assassin
>actual summer fun skins announced
Anyone else thankful for a good year of hero storm this year? Im hopeful for the future more now than ever before, feels good my dudes.
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>>179933407
>Artanis
>Gul'dan
>Tyrande

versus

>Sonya
>Zagara
>Greymane

I don't get it. Which one is no damage?

Also that looks more like a shit draft than a QM game.
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>>179933770
>>uther god
what happened with uther
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>>179852862

Avoid growing up to not be a slut?
Yeah, that's a good thing, I guess...
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>>179923665
>Try to play Rehgar as something other than a healbot
>Do top damage but get trounced because no one on my team could keep up
Shit sucked.
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>>179933407
This was 110% you guys sucking and not the QM gods choosing your fate. Stitches and Tyrande should have carried but probably sucked dick. You dying that many times prpbably meant you contributed by not peeling for your backline better and tunneling into 1v1s you clearly lost more if than not.
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>>179934000
Mana costs lowered.
His Q was exchanged for Tyrande's old Q.
All of his heals give armor.
His cleanse was replaced with give people 75 armor if they're stunned/rooted.
His Q build turns him into a shockadin with 1.3k self healing every 4 seconds.
His W talent at one makes him a good team healer as long as he works on his positioning.
His Hammer talents turn him into any burst assassin's wet dream.
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>>179934000
instead of tanky frontline melee man of many armors he used to just be a healbot who would stay behind his team and pretend his autoattacks didn't exist
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Buff Raynor.
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>>179933407
Artanis, Guldan and Tyrande can do damage anon, not sure what youre complaining about.
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>>179923665
i dont see what u mean

i top damage with kharazim and rehgar many games
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>>179933407
these teams seem fine

next time show us some real QM shenanigans
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>>179927471

You "think"?
If we needed the dragon we'd never play specialists on that map. If you get it on random, just pray that you've got a good support on your team, or you'll actually have to fight for objective...
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>>179934390
What a fucking meme match.
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>>179933407
>comp makes nonsense
>stitches +malf/tyrande
>artanis +malf/tyrande
>guldan literally should have melted their team
>both retard tanks probably let the backline die so they could engage into lost fights without hook or swap set up
>blaming the matchmaker for having shitty teamwork
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>>179923665
Healing is way too powerful in this game, because some characters can do insane burst damage.

I would rather see burst damage get nerfed across the board than see healers get the shaft again and again.
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>>179934403
With that in mind it's actually a good map tho. Just do some teamfights by the towers, and leave the dragon for some newbie to cry over. Let em have it if they want it.
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>>179934503
>tfw landing ancestral healing in almost dead team mate.
I actually like playing support mate, specially annoying ones like Rehgar and Tass.
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>team tries to split push payloads when enemy team has none up, so they just rotate and win the 5v3 every time

stop doing this you shits
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>>179932983
Anon, evolution is odd.
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>>179929763
For stabbing people with her heel
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>>179852191

I genuinely like this game. Many interesting characters, lots of tactics etc, and very few things can be blamed on pure luck. (as far as play goes that is. Then there's of course the chance of lag, extremely un-/lucky positioning, and really, really bad/obnoxious players in que, which is something which will happen in every single game that's ever been made.)
Then there's the matchmaking system, which actually doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I sometimes que as a completely random hero, just for the fun of it, or if I'm not sure what to pick. And going by statistics I should probably get a support about half the time, as that's something that always seem to be missing in random team compositions. But no. We have 4 dps? I get Chromie. We have 3 other specialists? I get Lost vikings. Any other combination, that could need a support or specialist? I get Rexxar. In fact, I got Rexxar 5 times in a row, and 7 times total out of 12 matches as total random. What's the odds...?
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>can actually pick 2 of the same character in the brawl mode
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>>179935643

It goes by the general rule for evolution. Human females wear high heels to attract more males, thus Zerg's hyper-evolution gave her natural high heels to find more mates. And perma-makeup too!
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>>179932983
obviously the zerg overmind predicted the future and caused her to evolve specifically to make jimmy's dick hard so he would try to save her instead of just killing her
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>>179935774
The QM matchmaking is completely busted by design. There are also rumors that heroes they want more test data on tend to be weighted more when you pick "random".
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>>179932983
>>179936573
The overmind saw the future and realized that chinese and korean markets are huge and only care about big tits and high heels.
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>10 gazlowes
I fucking hate it when this shit happens
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>>179936624

That would explain my 7 games as Rexxar. I thought he was quite okay-ish, but never see him in actual play. (other than those 7 seven times, that is... :/)
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>>179933407
>Gul'dan
>Tyrande
>Artanis
>No damage
Nah
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Why does Brightwing talk about herself in the third person?
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>play Abathur
>symbiote friendly hero
>said hero runs away from two low health enemies
ARE THERE PEOPLE FUCKING RETARDED?
yes, yes they are
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Is quick match really just FFA? Grubby told me this. Also, /hots/ approved streamers/youtubers
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a tale of two sonyas

guess which team won
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>>179937209
hatamura streamer is /ourguy/
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>>179936854
>tyrande
>damage
nah
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>>179937359
Hatamura streamer is a faggot who shills for himself here. he is NOT ourguy
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>>179937486
mewn really shills himself here?
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>>179937359
MFPallytime is /ourguy/
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Why do people pick xul? It's like they want to just fucking lose
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>>179937441
>Was doing more damage than Zag and Gul'dan in that image
:^)
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>>179936946
Autism, I'm not joking, Blizzard has confirmed it on Tweeter.
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>>179936946
Bitch, twerk as I get on the verse, cursin'
Nigga Brightwing so cool, I refer to her in third person
Watch me get this money, I'm up when the bird's chirpin'
Make actions, fuck rehearsing
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what's this holy shock build i keep hearing about
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>>179938090
Easier to figure out than you think.
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Best Zul'Jin build?
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>>179938854
Valla
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>>179938090
1: Q
4: Q
7: Q if you're the person they target most with stuns, or if they have a malfurion and you can just walk into the roots. Otherwise you still need GoAK to do your job right.
10: Hurr
13: Q
16: Bacon
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Was it level 75 for the highest tier taunt thing?
Is there anything for heroes past level 75?
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>>179939192
At 100 they send you a new car.
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>>179939238
I don't need a car though, can I get money instead?
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I really don't get why D.Va needs Valla-tier DPS in pistol form

On top of you know, mobility, moving while shooting, utility, two lives, an absolutely pitiful ult CD etcetera

In fact why are ALL the Overwatch heroes as fun to play against as masturbating with sandpaper? Seriously, I can't think of a single ONE I enjoy playing against. Every single fucking one has so many bullshit mechanics and so much shit that can only be explained as "why? because" on top of being insanely fucking shoehorned into the game.

God damn overwatch was a fucking mistake
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when do I want to play Muradin I love his play style and Dark Magi Muradin is fucking GOAT but every time I try picking him in unranked or HL they say he's shit.
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>>179937753
Bullshit.
I want to believe you because that's pretty funny, but it sounds like bullshit.
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>>179939557
Yeah, it is.
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>>179939309
They give you 100 gems then.
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>>179939373
He's hard to play that's why. He's straight forward but sees little to no play below diamond/masters.
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>>179939094
I'll give that a try, thanks lad
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>>179939373
He's E.T.C. with better self-sustain at the cost of harder to hit stuns and interrupts.
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>Tassadar is still being matched against Abathur in QM
Why does Blizzard lower Abathur win rates like this?
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>>179940186
Play a quasi support, get paired against a quasi support. Dems the breaks kid.
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>>179940186
abathur is classified as a "sustain" character, like zarya, tassadar tyrande and someone else i can't remember
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>>179940497
>>179940554
Abathur is clearly not a support in the healing sense like Tassadar is
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>>179940640Tassadar only heal is giving life steal Abby can spec his hats to actually heal
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>>179940554
Medivh?
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>Tassadar is allowed to give 90% lifesteal
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>>179939314
Zarya is ok.
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>>179940787
Except Tassadar also gives big shields and it's a 90% life leech on the shield and Abathur shields are so tiny you break it by looking at it which stops the healing
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>>179940640
take it up with blizzard man, they're the ones creating these categories

>>179940790
Yeah that's it, the birdman
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>>179916083
He's no longer a puppet of Diablo, but he's still fucked up mentally. Not too surprising then that it flares up when he's getting violent.
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>>179940798
The shield breaks really easily. Really hard to get value out of in fights, it's kind of only good for healing up outside fights.
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>>179941208
Its really good on varian

broken even
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>Leoric
>Butcher
>Cassia

>All diablo heroes
>All braindead, no varying combos whatsoever
>Predictable as all fuck
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>>179941261
It's good on every hero that can make themselves immune to damage obviously.
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>>179897372
Murky dialogues are the best.
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>>179941389
so the only ones worth playing in the first place
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>>179941208
>The shield breaks really easily
yeah but anyone with crits gets severe mileage out of it, Arthas, Valla
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>Morales is 10k

literally why the fuck, she's boring as all hell and her trait is literally muradins
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why is it impossible to do things with sonya

whenever i engage people they just run from me and i can barely do any damage and i never get kills
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Most OP hero
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>>179941782
>bronze and silver think she is OP
>majority of playerbase is bronze and silver
she's priced based on demand
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>>179939314
they gotta have strong OW heroes so all the OW players can win and then get addicted and then spend cash on hots
all the hots players will see how strong the OW heroes are and then get addicted to those heroes and pick up OW
it's the perfect plan goy
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>>179941310
>Cassia is bad
>No combos
Fucking destroys melee death ball comps with Fend build and Ball lightning while being shit compared to valk when they're running double/triple tank and Khara it is fucking amazing. Make them spilt apart or just keep on steady dmg. Also gravaton ball and Fend is a fun combo
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>>179941929
>t. got dicked on by an ow hero

next you'll tell me tracer is broken
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>>179941782
Because she was a new hero once and Blizzard (((forgot))) to discount her.

Besides, do you really want bad players to be able to easily access Morales?
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>>179941951
>Fucking destroys melee death ball comps with Fend
>OH LOOK CASSIA WENT IN
>TIME TO STUN HER
nigga come the fuck on

if she had a trait that made her unstoppable while using fend that would be a reasonable argument but it's not
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>>179942097
>Cassia
>Going in alone
>no tyrael tass medivh or even fucking Zarya backing her up
Hows silver mate
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>>179936751
I can get that.

...still looks stupid tho.
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>>179942097
>going in
>literally just activate charged strikes and rape melee heavy teams
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>>179941929
If that's your idea then everyone would have seen how stronk certain characters from certain universes are and buy all of Blizzard's current games.

IT'S GENIUS!
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>>179941929
>>179942730
Explains why diablo gets nothing it's the dead horse.
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>>179942834
valla is the most broken character in the game
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>>179942902
>50.2% win rate
>49.9-50.1% avg win rate in diamond and above
How
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Misha: KILL
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>>179943189
>global winrates mattering when talent choices directly dictate how strong a character is
please stop with this meme
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>>179941903
buff patrick stewart
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>BoE
>enemy team gets the immortal
>pushes our last building down
>our team somehow manages to kill all of them and have everyone alive
>enemy team only has keeps up
>whole enemy team on a 60s death timer
>tell my team to go core
>they start laning and taking merc camps
>lose next team fight around immortals and core dies
GG
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>win games
>-10 favored adjustment
>-10 personal rank
>lose games
>-10 favored adjustment
>-10 personal rank

Fuck this shit.
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>>179943440
>say character is broken
>has no actual proof
After you end yourself also explain why she is rarely used in HGC?
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>>179942205
none of those people grant her cc immunity

nice try dipshit
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>>179943568
Both medivh and Zarya can make their bubble unstoppable Tass has cleanse or Shrink ray I forget which to help with dmg midgatona nd Tyrael had Sact.
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>when you're the only good player on your team
How does this shit happen? How can someone have a level 75 and be so shit with every character they have?
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>>179944653
because skill gain is not equal person to person
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>Do double the hero damage of our Kerrigan as Malthael
>Get blamed for losing because I'm playing the new Hero

I love moba communities
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>>179944653
You don't need skill to level up, just time.
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>>179944653
>level 75

that's like nothing. I think I got that on my second or third day of playing after 2.0
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>>179944761
>>179944840
I know this, but theoretically, if you have a level 75 (my highest is 25 and honestly I've played the shit out of this game), then you should know what the fuck every character does, at least know general strategy and not fuck up in every team fight.
Yeah, it's not a representation of skill, but still.
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Is Cassia good, or does she just exist to ruin butcher's life?
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What would be the most obnoxiously shielded team to face? I'm thinking Medivh, Zarya, Tass, Varian, and Genji.
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>that one game that makes it worth it to play Abathur in QM and get through all those auto losses caused by team comps
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>>179941903
they should add this guy as a hots original
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>>179945330
I too would love to play Nexusman
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>>179944801
>not blaming anyone for any reason just to see their reaction
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>>179941903
>Seth from SF4

yes please
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Rexxar is a champion for faggots
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>>179941903
>His Q is Muradin's hammer
>His W is Uther's Wave
>His E is Thrall's Windfury
>His talents up until 10 are just based on improving his debuff durations, buff durations, damage, or health
>At 10 it locks him into Tank, Support, or Assassin playstyle and changes his abilities accordingly.
>His 13+ Talents are heroic specific.
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God damn, I'm fucking sick of getting shitty people on my team in my games. This is why games like this are absolute shit.
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D.VA is the most tedious piece of shit.
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>>179930529
3 (1 if hana)
1
1
2 (1 if imortals or shrines)
1
1
4(taking I'm a scared bitch talent)
Fucking get on my level, your whole point in playing murky is to lower as much of the enemy teams mana and health so your Big dicked Assassins can finish them, And push lane so minions can stack and overwhelm a lane.
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>>179945674

It's alright, played against him the very next game and crushed him so now I feel better.
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>>179947306
>Not taking bribe on Hana
Didn't finish reading lol
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>Think "DVA can't be as cancerous as she appears"
>Buy DVA
>I am become the cancer, it's even more cancer than I thought, this power is incredible
>Embrace cancer
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>>179945674
>"Hey guys! :glhf: :D"
>"*Random light accusation here*"
>"WHATEVER YOU FUCKING N*GGER, I'M FAR BETTER THAN YOU, AT LEAST I'M NOT THE SHITTY OTHER PERSON ON THIS TEAM I'M GOING TO NAME OUT!"
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>>179947306
>don't take bribe on the best map to use bribe
???????
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I wish there was a way to read the all chat from a game, post game, like in a replay.

I'd fucking love to see the incoherent anger from my enemies who I know are ragebabies from personal experience.
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>>179947794
Embrace the holy Gremlin!
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>>179948714
Yo. Don't bully genji. He's a nice guy who doesn't do a wrong to no one.
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>>179947821
>teammate getting ganked
>run to help him
>very slightly body block him, even though he was 200% dead anyway and it allowed me to finish off his ganker

>"lol you blocked me"
>"Yeah but you were dead anyway, at least I got revenge!"
>"NO FUCK YOU IDIOT I WAS ALMOST OUT OF THERE YOU FUCKING RETARD"
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>>179947794
Dva is fucking overrated in hots desu/
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>Highest rank in every TL game
>Never get to play carry role because team doesn't choose contested picks
Shoot me
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Tal'darim 1: Man, I gotta send some fan mail to Alarak but I don't know what to do

Tal'darim 2: Oh that's easy man, you address the Highlord.
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Will the summer skins be out for gems when released?

I wanna drop shards on a cloud but not sure if worth.
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>>179950356
Wait until cloud is 1600 to buy it
There will be a summer bundle and summer loot crates for gems most likely
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>>179950141
I don't understand these Highlord memes
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>>179950057
>Level 225
>Has only ever done 1(one) placement match
>Had such anxiety from having to pick/ban
>End up losing
>Never touch again
I don't know why but it was so fucking nerve wracking, I'm fine with being bitched at I'm QM because it doesn't matter, but reached made me feel horrible for what ever mis play I did and I felt I tilted when under pressure
>Blog post
Thank you
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>>179950141
Is that the best joke you can do?
Ugh, I've known much better comedians.
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>>179950967
Okay, that's adorable
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>>179951030
Lune's stuff is great.
Sprays when?
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Everytime i'm forced to play this shit for some crossover ow promotion i die a little inside.
Do you play this abomination unironically?
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>>179951742
why are you forced to play sitches?
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>>179951742
I love it. If you don't like to lose video games it might not be for you though, especially if you've never played moba games before.
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>>179951823
I've played dota 2 , league , strife , heroes of newerth.
This is the biggest piece of shit to ever come of this genre's asshole.
Strife is worse but it doesn't rape characters from actual good games.
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>>179951961
It's more team reliant than any of these other mobas.
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>>179951823
hots IS the moba for people who "don't like to lose video games" though
>stuns are all 1.25s or less because casuals get mad when they are out of position and get stunlocked and killed
>levels are shared throughout the whole team so feeders don't get underleveled and end up weaker and easier to kill
>shitloads of comeback mechanics, you can get stomped all game and then win one teamfight over a 20 minute objective and kill core
>stealth heroes/gankers are specifically designed to be unable to solokill you and require their team around
>forced teamwork with the whole tank/support/dps thing so people feel like they're cooperating even though they don't have to think about shit or actually coordinate with teammates at all
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>>179951961
Maybe it's a mental block? There's not really any glaring issues with this game other than the high hardware requirements relative to similar games and the unforgiving reconnect system.

The gameplay is fun, the gimmicks and map pool are pretty interesting, and the heavy emphasis on team play when compared to other games is actually pretty satisfying (when it works and your team clicks/cooperates), character designs and general polish on things like character fantasy are pretty nice, hero balance is relatively close, they update shit every week, they release new content every month on the nose.

I don't see what's not to like unless you absolutely hate with a burning autist passion team play and constantly rage at QM for some reason.
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>>179951742

Requesting the image of the overbabby being literally unable to complete the tutorial.
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>>179952258
All mobas are team reliant. This one just doesn't have shit besides teamfighting.

It's a decent brainlet moba (mobas are brainlet rts anyway) in some maps.

Problem is you get cucked out of the good maps since you can't choose them , making the game factually kusoge.
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>>179887636
>That's how depraved we've been of non-sexualized female heroes


>wonder woman
>not sexualized
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MY DECREES ARE ABSOLUTE

Exploitable for all your memeing needs.
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>>179950815
Ladder anxiety is normal
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>>179952701
Needs lili trying to fight people
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>>179952701
i dont get it
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>>179952691
If she's going to wear nothing but a leotard she should probably shave down there.
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>>179952795
Lili can solo Zeratul with the right talents.
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I had a dream I worked in a movie theater, and our concessions stand had hots loot boxes built into it.

The only item I saw was an epic skin for Lunara that did nothing except make her purple, take her leaf bra off, and make her boobs as large as her head

This was a highly requested item.

I just thought you should all know
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>>179952701
SENT IT TO VALVE! POST RESULTS!
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>>179952701

>Transparent image

Tee hee
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>>179953087
>People still defend the meme dps lili
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>>179915496
Lunara and Tyrande because Elune
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>first pick murky
>he afks the whole game in a bush
why is every murky player a complete scumbag?
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>>179953261
Watched a video of someone that used the dps Lili build and it destroyed the other team
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>>179924395
Are assassins and assassin-esque carries not the most popular class in every game for a reason?
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>decide to test Jaina's Water Elemental
>it doesn't last even 5 seconds because it's melee and squishy as fuck
why the fuck is this even an option
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>>179906129
The big thing I like with HotS over Dota 2 is that a lot of instakill shit is much more easily avoidable or counterable, and damage output in general is more normalized. That is, there are way, way fewer scenarios where you literally do no damage or just die if someone sneezes on you. Also, burst casters and supports stay relevant the whole game.
Not to mention, the comeback mechanics in HotS feel way, way less shitty thanks to the normalized power curves. It actually feels like a fair chance to come back and not an "auto-lose if your team has worse lategame and you fuck up ever" mechanic. Not to mention, Blizz seems to go out of their way to remove generic talents that make the game harder to balance instead of adding extra overpowered items like Valve.
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>>179953529

Man I remember when the Water Ele could pretty much 1v1 anyone in the game.

What happened?
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>>179924917
>'support' in other games is not 'healbot', but 'hero who does their job without requiring much xp/gold'.

But heroes share experience in HotS, no one has or has to function with lower income.
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>>179889148
>that lower left skeleton
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>>179953529
It use to be good when it did damage and applied slow to everyone in the area you summoned it. Now it's just a trash summon
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>>179953261
DPS Li Li is legitimately her viable build

Full support Li Li is like taking a chainsaw to mow your lawn
Sure it can do it, but is it the best use of her resources?
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>>179924917
Supports in other games usually amount to "walking ult" or "utility item bitch"

Calling it anything else is naive.
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>>179953665
yes that's what i was saying
the normal moba 'support' role can't exist in hots anyways
they just made up a new role and gave it the same name
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>>179953924
Support can mean different things
In Dota, you "support" your team by only showing up to use your ult or to buy wards and bullshit that the other real heroes can't afford
In Heroes, it usually means assisting in a fight in some way, whether that be healing, mitigation, movement imparing/boosting, vision, etc. Some supports play like "carry" heroes but have a heal button. Healing is a big part because fighting is a big part of the game, and the counter to damage in a teamfight is anti-damage aka healing/mitigation.
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>>179952701
nice
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>>179953808
this guy walks up to your midlaner at level 1, casts Entomb with 3x the range and 2/5ths the cooldown (1/5th when he levels up more), then takes turn slapping his on the ass alongside his own team's mid

how do you respond
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>>179954192
uninstalling and playing a better game
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>>179953280
more like Elewd.
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>>179931493
I need porn of Sylvanas mind controlling DVa yesterday
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>>179952469
Most Dota players have Stockholm Syndrome. It's like a Scientologist getting mad about psychiatry. They have to say that other games are terrible to fit in with their other Cookie Clicker addict pals.
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>>179952773
I understand that, it's just why do people resort to flaming and blaming after one objective?!?!? Also I've been thinking about turning off allied chat, is that a good idea?
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>>179954547
agreed, everyone with different opinions or preferences from me is mentally ill
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>>179954602
Human nature. Project insecurities to feel better about themselves. If they blame you for something you do wrong, they can feel better about the 50 things they did wrong because you're a nobody on the internet and nobody will ever be more to blame than someone that isn't them.
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>>179954192
That's great fun at level 1. And then suddenly, 30 minutes later, you instantly die when the fed Legion Commander presses R and clicks on your hero. Or PA hits W. Or WR hits Q. Or Lina hits R. Riveting gameplay.
Conversely, you play a carry and you spend 30 minutes playing PvE, then auto-win by killing the enemies that die when you right click them twice.
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When does Malth's price get reduced to 10k?
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>>179954767
In two weeks before next hero reveal, on the 27th.
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>>179954767
Right after you buy him and right before you find him in a chest
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>>179954648
If we were talking about any other game you'd be right to tell me off. Most Dota players are legitimately insane, emotionally unstable, or make their living off the first two.
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>>179954714
Should I just mute allied chat? I feel only once in a blue moon does anyone actually type something worthwhile there
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>>179954741
But that guy isn't a carry at all. First of all it means he's going to spend those 30 minutes roaming around looking for kills instead of clicking creeps. And then if he's on your team it means you probably plan on winning the game before those other carries are much of a problem. You could push hard and win the game much more quickly and you probably need to because I remember that guy is absolute garbage and a waste of space after like 20 minutes.
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>>179954940
Until you play for a while and get comfortable with the game or start playing HL, there's no reason to have it on. Just communicate by pings, if that doesn't work then let Allah take the wheel and just sail it out. Typing shit about why you're losing usually makes you lose harder. Just focus on playing and you'll enjoy the game more.
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>diablos afraid to engage
>vallas fighting on melee range
>leorics playing leoric

thanks for the event blizzard, enriches QM a lot
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Diablo is fun
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>>179954872
>>179954872
NEW THREAD
>>179954872
>>179954872
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>>179955036
i want to learn leoric, is he that bad?
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>>179955028
That's cool and all, but what if there was a game where no character became completely and utterly useless at any point until the game is literally over, even through advantages and disadvantages? I think it's lot more fun to always be able to win by outplaying your opponents while at the same time not automatically winning after a small advantage. Or automatically winning after one fight after losing the whole game because power spikes + severe rubber banding, which is even worse.
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