/fhg/ - For Honor General

apollyon was wrong

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>>179805482
my face is down here anon...

>>179805228
This was me with lawbringer before they added in his 33/33/33 with shove. I felt I earned my wins and parries, I still try my best to not be a shove shitter but it sometimes happens when I'm panicking or just want to win in any way.

>>179805613
No, don't bully. People glorify big boss, her plans were to expand war. It's all we humans know anyways

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>Group of one cent and 3 lawbringer running around ganking and staggering the shit out of everyone
>We manage to break their group down and hunt them down before they regroup again
>We win
>"Lol can't you 1v1?"

I don't get it
I just don't get it, the sheers assholery of these cunts

>>179805643

and you actually beat people with this shit? law is terrible now, as he always was. although im digging his new guard change

>>179805482
Why is Centurion so damn weak?
>slow
>opener is easy to dodge
>your greatest enemy is 5 feet of distance
>everyone knows how to parry the unblockable
>everyone knows how to parry your heavies'
>doesn't have any real confirms (I think his kick can land a light, maybe?)
>zone attack is just straight up parrying yourself
>after a lucky knockdown and leap attack you "ETZIA" which I think is latin for "stab my asshole while I'm not looking."
>called the mix up specialist
>has no serious mix ups
Raider is better than Cent.
I've played good Cents, good reactions, parry everything, but it seems like when I ask them for tips they tell me they struggle with getting anything done as well. Getting a parry is good and seems to be the only viable strat, do some useless combo to bait an attack, parry it, then make good use of a counterattack, assuming you don't parry their ass out your own range.

>>179806091
>>doesn't have any real confirms (I think his kick can land a light, maybe?)

so you've played him for 5-10 minutes and this is your opinion so far? good to know.

now shut the fuck up and form an opinion when you've actually played him a bit

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>>179806091
Aww, tried duel for the first time and it turns out fighting people is hard if they're not locked on to someone else?

>>179806091
>doesn't have any real confirms (I think his kick can land a light, maybe?)
>has no serious mix ups

You're right that Centurion is weak, but I feel like most characters are weak when played by a retard.

>>179805482
Did revenge get nerfed again? Seems like it's not working at all how it's supposed to for me.

>>179805982
Yeah sometimes. I play Dominion mostly, I do know I can't beat most Duelist since I don't have the mind for Mindgames. I'm a simple man.
Then every now and then I manage to hit parry on lights, though I can parry second lights at 80% rate. So Ad-Mortem Fucks them up.

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Lawbros unite! Our time has come with this update!

>>179806204
I'm rep 3.
>>179806261
>heh, you probably don't even know what honor is
>>179806291
>le returd
Thanks Reddit Wardens. Now do you have any advice for how to play Cent? Everyone dodges the kick, parries or blocks the heavies, blocks the lights, and techs my gbs.
I got to rep 3 playing duels and now everyone isn't shit and there's nothing I can do with Cent.

>>179807263
>gee lawbringer why do you get 40 nipples?

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>Join elimination
>All players parry all of my light attacks

Being Goki is suffering

>>179807387
that's why you feint into gb and make them afraid to parry. then ummm, you kill them by chip damage

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>>179807341
It's Femwarden's fetish

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>Enemy team has two cents that gank together
>My team keep bitching about it
>Tell them for the fifth fucking time to not attack them head on alone, keep with your own team
>Only for them to fuck off in their own direction and then bitch again

What am I to do

>>179807387
whiff one heavy, then trade on the second

>>179806261
>>179807459
Who would be Femkensei's boyfriend?

>>179806261
>>179807459

Drawfags are back?

>>179807537
>Who would be Femkensei's boyfriend?
Femshinobi?
I think Shugoki is a better fit for Nobushi and I don't see Femsei racemixing or having a twink boyfirend.

>>179807728
>I don't see Femsei racemixing or having a twink boyfirend
Femsei has no boyfriend. Her Love is pure to FemOrochi.

>>179807728
>>179807808
>Femsei
>Having a BF
>Implying she doesn't keep a harem

>>179807313
Kick is safe to use. Mix it in with dry dodges into GBs. This won't work against good players, but you can soft 50/50 people who dodge early. It's more effective the longer you wait to trigger the kick in the dodge. Practice triggering the kick at the last moment before it would register a GB instead.

If they ever block a heavy instead of parrying it, that lets you launch into your mix ups. Following a blocked heavy, you can 500ms Followup Heavy, Unblockable, Partially charged Heavy, Heavy GB Softfeint, Jab, Charged Jab, or hard cancel. Mix it up and try to be unpredictable. Everything you do can already be dry reacted to, so you don't want to add being predictable on to that.

Parry lights and get your free 60 damage. You can also get a free exhaust and 60 damage if you land a GB near a wall.

People don't know your range as well as you know your range. Whiffing a full charged heavy from a mile out is a safe move that lets you launch into a 500ms heavy. Mix it with partially charged heavies and GB softfeints to avoid getting parried. Cent has the interesting choice to partially charge any heavy he does to fuck with the parry timings. You should do that.

You pretty much never want to use the unblockable heavy. Using it is basically betting on your enemy panicking and trying to dodge out or something stupid.

I could probably think of more, but this is generally a good base. Centurion isn't good really at all outside of his confirms off parries and GBs, but you can make it work against most people.

>Law vs Law mirror

No thanks. Facing Lawbringer as Lawbringer is almost as bad as facing Conqueror as Lawbringer.

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Take Lawbringers shove on block out of the game right now.

TAKE IT OUT

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So is FiatLux worth using now? 25 Damage, no Stamina sounds like a good deal.
I'm having hard time deciding between it and Thick Blood, since latter pretty much fucks any dude with bleed. But it's only on PK and Nobu, but few others can gain it via feats.

>>179808941
>But it's only on PK and Nobu
And Valk
And Shinobi
And anyone with Sharpen Blades

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>>179807553
Kinda.
Been dividing my time between exams and drawing
stuff on /tg/ and /mlp/.
Then someone started talking about Femsei's butt in the last thread.
Still got a bunch of unfinished stuff too; should probably finish it.
Lord knows I could use some anatomy practice.>>179807728
>Shugoki is a better fit for Nobushi
I like that one

Is guardspeed update live already?

>>179808941
I always used it over thick blood. The only time I ever get bled as warden was from poison blades during a gank while we were breaking so I just didn't see the point. While flux has alot of utility.
>can help you clear minions
>can help you isolate/escape ganks
>lets you nullify revenge
>can troll teammates with
>can kill people at regen health.
Maybe if you want to run negative debuff than I can see running thick blood as a pretty good option but I go balanced on my head

>>179808759
>Facing a Lawbringer who literally never parries and just does the block shove

Kill me.

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I CANT I JUST CANT GET GOOD.
I play kensei all day trying to get good, I JUST DONT GET GOOD.
I try to feint they see right through it, i try to not feint i get parried, i get my lights parried, my gb counter gb'd, i parry and try to gb it whiffs.

What do i do man?

>>179809293
I hope you were playing an assassin and getting free deflects.

>>179809293
It's even more boring than conqueror

>>179809297
Play someone who's not Kensei.

>>179809297
Getting good with a shit class wont change the fact that the class is shit

>>179809293

I'm dreading the guard switch update, it's going to make him even worse of a turtle than Conq once people catch on.

>>179809190
yes

>>179809297
Hard feint heavy into light.
Helmsplitter into midair; if they fall for it, follow with an uninterruptable heavy.
Use your range.
If you get to knock someone into a wall, go for the unblockabele, otherwise you leave that shit alone.

>>179809376
I was a Raider. I won really hard since he was only Rep 2 and hardly knew what to do besides the block-shove mixup. He so rarely followed up with an actual light that I barely needed to worry about dodging.

>>179809297
Play Raider or something instead. Kensei isn't just bad, he's almost literally worthless.

>>179809398
Let's not go that far.

>>179809497
Played a few matches since the update and the two Lawbringers I fought were both enormous turtles who didn't even go for parries.

>>179809449
>>179809593
>>179809558
>>179809478
How do i know im at a level where im good enough tho? im only playing kensei to improve.

>>179809661
Can you consistently parry 500ms lights, dodge, and interrupt enemy attacks as needed? Then you're better than 90% of players.

>>179809593

Well shit, that's not good. Hopefully part of the turtle meta update is removing those "blocks give free GBs/bashes".

>>179809716
which attacks are 500ms again?

>>179809297
Stop playing kensei for one. Play a class that can atleast apply pressure like raider, lawbringer, or warden if your trying to learn fundamentals. Once you got the core mechanics and turtling down play an assassin to learn how to play aggressively by predicting when they'll attack and attack before them. I learned how to play useing law and zerk before they got buff.

are the kensei buffs as unimportant as they sound?
>swift strike
>get parried
>helm splitter
>get parried

>shinobi gets the kick nerf
>all the players learn how to abuse his multidodge glitch

great. and to make things even more enjoyable hes still next to impossible to punish while out of stamina

>>179809661
Kensei rewards good basics.
Learn your parries and your doges, whom you get to hit with your sidedash strike etc.

Once you get the defense down, you can start on mixups.

Holy shit Deathmist is gross. The original smoke effect screenshot looked dope. Now it's just... awful.

dev stream is up

>>179809841
You still have to work off random hits and chaining into thin air unlocked to do anything, yes

>>179809593
As raider you can just dodge every time since you are the only hero who can cgb while dodging

>>179809841
Helmsplitter is only really useful to catch cents winding up their bullshit and fool people into eating a side uninterruptable.
Swiftstrike can punish idiots throwing out kicks and headbutts, provided you time it right.

>>179808759
>take away one of LB's only tools
no, he doesn't need to be even worse.

>>179805482
>i parry and try to gb it whiffs.
That's just bad habit against certain matchups so just side heavy

You can does this with Ken to against shorter range opponents.

>>179809854
Not to mention he still has a mixup on double dodge becuase of his ranged gb

>>179809904
Kinda works if you're going for White Walker Viking shtick, but yeah, pretty underwhelming

>>179809661
Ken isn't as beginner friendly as say warlord for a number of reasons so try that till you get a better feel for the game.

>>179809765
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=1037667970

Isnt complete with combos but it has the neutrals

>deathmist
fuck you give me the executions

Death Mist looks ok on executions, pretty shit overall.

>>179810350
It looks like a dry ice machine or vaping.

THIIICK

>>179809841
He needs a rework just as much raider pre buff

All vanguards were one trick ponies and that didn't stick to the wall barring wards sb being super useful in this current meta of the game.

>>179809841

>Facing a Rep 7 Kensei in duels
>First round, first match
>First move he does is a Helm Splitter
>Anticipating this
>Parry it easily because Centurion's guard change is 100ms now

Poor Kensei players. At least Kensei is better at ganking now, right?

>>179810797
agreed, just being able to cancel zone into stunning tap makes raider play like a new character
question is, what do you do with kensei? superior light attacks? 500ms side lights?

>>179810864
Fuck no he isn't, he's more of annoyance my team ganks then anything. Take that washing pole and captures a fucking base, fucking hate them hitting and wasting hit so the enemy gets revenge all the time.

Weebs have the most players? Poor Kangz

>>179810969
His feints count as combo parts.

>>179811002
I imagine a lot of people switched from kangz anticipating that it was weebs' turn to win

>>179811076
i love this idea, but I'd want it to come along with a buff to the damage on the second heavy in his HH- chain. currently the top heavy is only 20, same as a light

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THE KNIGHTS MUST WIN, IT'S OUR TURN

>>179810969
Maybe just make his combo two steps across the board?
Speed up his lights.
All feinting is free?

AH FUCK

Lmao the stream is a cringefest

>>179811189
My only real suggestions for a Kensei rework are:

>Feints are free
>Feints count as combo parts
>Lights can be feinted
>Soft feinting is a part of his kit

Any one of these or all of them at once would make Kensei more viable, but still based on mind games. Something I would be interested in is a character who has flickering built into their kit and animations, as in they can start a swing one direction and change its direction during the swing.

>>179810969
Following the trends of the other two competitors all his tools should be readily available and not stuck to chaining his best pressure tool behind at least one light. All the other characters are variations in game play of the the vanilla three not the other way around.

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>>179811253

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Fucking skirmish orders.

I hate them.

>Game starts
>spam group up
>everyone still starts randomly running around the map
>and every fucking match half of my team disconnects

Then i end up myself in a centurion gangbang.

>>179811460

why cant any of you people make sensible balance suggestions without utterly destroying or completely over buffing a character

>real weapons
there's calimacil swords behind them lol

>>179811589
I don't see what's so outrageous about those suggestions.

>Samurai guy was in a dojo wearing robes
>Viking guy was in armor and shit
>Knight guy is wearing business casual and sunglasses

>>179811513
Either cod babies who think it's the same thing or power up crutch and wait for that damage up and get 1v4

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Between valkyrie and lawbringer, which hero would you consider stronger/better/overpowered/underpowered/[insert adjective here].

Please give reasons for your decision.

The Patch that killed Valk.

>>179811950
And orochi.

>>179811906
On consoles? Valkyrie by a country mile. Having 500ms lights that chain into a sweep makes her a nightmare.

On PC? Lawbringer, probably. He gets good parry punishes and punishes from blocking attacks. Valk's follow up lights are 600ms, and thus parry bait.

>>179811996
They removed flicker already? Wow.
Also doesn't matter, Orochi is still best Bot Killer.

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Ban should be 30 minutes not ten, 4 games in a row ive been dc'd from because of quitters aaaaaaahhhhhh

>>179811906
Game plans are different for both.

Valk has a lot of offensive tools, law defensive

>>179812160
So you're saying they're equal?

>>179811681

>feints dont cost stamina, leads to combo finishers, everything can be feinted, even lights, and cancelled into GB

yeah sounds good. easpecially for a character with a 40 mile long sword that does a minimum of 20 damage per hit

This game is unironically more dead than Dark Souls, how is this possible?

>>179812247
I said one or all, not necessarily all.

>>179811906
considering how thoroughly valk can BTFO law, i'd have to say valk is better. she has guard on dodge as well as dodge attacks that chain into other things

if you think of valk like conq but far more versatile instead of like a slow assassin as most of her players do, she becomes a lot better

this fucking stream..... what the fuck....

>>179812389
Easily the worst dev stream of all time.

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>>179811906
Is the valk is op meme only on console? She's straight garbage on pc, all her lights get parried and she can't feint becuase of how telegraphed her heavy is. It's sad becuase she'll never be buffed becuase of console.
Lawbringer ad mortems all over her

>>179812239
In essence yes, there both highly concentrated in their abilities that it varies from match up to match up.

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I just encountered a rep 30 raider with some strange tech.

First he does the normal feint the unblockable into the stun knock, but after that he did the unblockable again and it seemed there was no charge in that attack at all. It just immediately landed on me.

I wonder if this is really a thing or the game just glitched or something.

>>179812552
But valk is shit in the turtle meta

this fucking raider what the hell....

>>179812575
Could be the stun I mean it shouldn't come out as fast as a light and there's only one way for zone did you try to parry it?

>>179812547
She's good on console because 500ms lights are basically safe, as parrying them is nearly impossible for most players. You can just spam her lights and sweep to succeed, apparently.

>>179812575
That does sound odd, but it coulda just been lag.

>>179812768

I really didn't have time to parry it. The unblockable sign just flickered

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Im dying here

What's going on stream?

>>179813179
LITERALLY NOTHING

>>179813128
>paint on metal

>>179813128

Seems like your body is slowly turning into vodka, Ivan.

>>179813128
It would look great if it was just the fog around your feet

But then they had to make this weird ass fucking spiderweb cotton candy tornado bullshit

>>179812698

>turtle meta
>the best heroes in the game, literally since before day 1 have been the ones with the best offense
>conq has overwhelmingly the best passive defense in the game
>like its not even close with any one else
>ever since his nerf, and even before it i suspect if the players had been given to figure him out, hes been bottom tier along with ken and zerk
>zerk incidentally is the strongest assassin defensively as his deflect reward is ludicrous and can be done consistently while OoS for ~35 damage wallbangs, and yet hes still worse than all the other assassins and characters in general

:thinking:

when will the "turtle meta" meme end i wonder

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>Was looking forward death mist since it was supposed to be the original pre order effect
>Not only do I have to buy it despite being promised I'd get it, it also look total shit

>>179813528
All they need to do is to reduce timer in duels, literally the only gamemode that rewards waiting

>>179813528
>>conq has overwhelmingly the best passive defense in the game
>passive
>dueling
I think Warlords self revive is better. Conqs heal on block isn't worth much unless your opponent is a retard.
It was the only thing that made him able to withstand 4v1s.

>>179813528
>Conq is a good defensive character
>When he gets a whopping 25 damage off of parries and GBs

The reason the top tier characters are the ones with the best offense is that they're the only characters that even have an offense.

>>179813128
THIS WAY HOBBITSES, THROUGH SHELOB'S CAVE.

>>179813398
Finisher is dope af, made me consider making creepy LB from the deeps look, but then i saw this shit

>>179813528
you seem confused
a turtle meta means that defense (which every character has more or less equal capablities in) is usually the best strategy. In a turtle meta the strongest characters will be the few who are capable of powerful offense. Imagine if the game was set up differently such that there was an offensive meta - conqueror would probably thrive under those conditions

>>179813262
Congratulations on making the dumbest joke of the day.

>>179813908
You want them to remake entire movesets for the rest of the cast?

>>179813528
>PK not being the best turtle that can zone parry, heavy soft feints, and flicker when you try to do ANYTHING
>warlord not being the best turtle due to all his safe attacks and 1hko parry while being able to pressure other turtles
>shinobi not being the best turtle becuase he can double dash out of gb range which can be cancled into multi dashes for free safe kicks or ranged gbs and gets free heavys.
Please revise you idea of "turtling" it basicly just means counter attacker now.

>>179812698
She still has the means to open up her opponent with a sweep or bash.

Conq is the best "low effort" turtle, because you don't even have to parry anything but unblockables, you can just block to shut down an enemy's combo automatically.

His ability to punish though is completely awful so he's not the best turtle by far.

>>179814174
No not really, you can dodge the sweep on reaction after bash. unless you land a light right before you're not landing a sweep on anyone.

Hello, executions?

>>179813997
>(which every character has more or less equal capablities in)

dont ever talk to me again

>>179814254
Honestly, i dont understand all this conq whining. Im playing LB myself, and fighting conqs for ime is like going to bash central. Fun as hell as long as youre not out of stamina

>>179814363
Nothing is truly guaranteed in this game your being nitpicky.

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>>179814640
>everyone can block and parry
>all block is a meme
>reflex gaurd is a meme
>slow guard swap is a meme
>like 4 characters can actually punish making them good turtles

>>179814849

I definitely wasn't whining about him lol, I play Conq myself.

More just trying to explain why I think he can still turtle decently.

>>179814923
No valk is just shit on pc. She has no feint game yet she's based on punishing people with her light like assassins.her punishs are shit yet she's supposed to be a good turtle?

>>179814849
Because you aren't fighting conqs who dashing block your light after a shove and bash you.

>>179814967

>some characters can dodge at a million miles per hour over long distances
>some characters have deflect mechanics while dodging
>some characters have armor moves, shugo has passive hyper armor
>different HP maximums for most classes
>some characters inflict statuses like stun or bleed with their counter attacks, others drain varying amounts of stamina, law gets his shove, conq gets free GB from blocked heavy attacks, some dont even have counters
>hidden stance and fullguards still have their uses
>some characters get as little as 25 damage off a parry, others get about 60 or whatever it is that cent gets

why even come to this general if youre so ignorant? its clearly not to learn as all youre doing is talking shite

>>179805482
>her punishs are shit
You've never been parried by a good valk then?

>>179815532
I wasn't defending the fact that barely any characters have good punishes. I was saying that when it comes down to it only like 4 characters are good due to having huge punishes.
Also
>some characters can dodge at a million miles per hour over long distances
>some characters have deflect mechanics while dodging
>some characters have armor moves, shugo has passive hyper armor
>different HP maximums for most classes
>some characters inflict statuses like stun or bleed with their counter attacks, others drain varying amounts of stamina, law gets his shove, conq gets free GB from blocked heavy attacks, some dont even have counters
>hidden stance and fullguards still have their uses
All memes

>>179815867
>getting your heavy parried

>>179815507
I do. It means they dodged backwards instead of sideways, gb helps in that case

>>179815867
Oops meant to >>179815108

Point still stands

>>179815532
>some characters can dodge at a million miles per hour over long distances
this is just as likely to be a liability because it makes for a longer window to receive an untechable gb
>some characters have deflect mechanics while dodging
useful in some corner cases, but more often inferior to just parrying
>some characters have armor moves, shugo has passive hyper armor
neither of these are defensive (shugoki only ever uses his armor to trade)
>different HP maximums for most classes
hp is irrelevant when the discussion concerns ways not to get hit
>some characters inflict statuses like stun or bleed with their counter attacks, others drain varying amounts of stamina, law gets his shove, conq gets free GB from blocked heavy attacks, some dont even have counters
these are all ways to be offensive, you are again confused
>hidden stance and fullguards still have their uses
no they don't
>some characters get as little as 25 damage off a parry, others get about 60 or whatever it is that cent gets
true, and parries being generally extremely good is a big part of what causes defensive meta in the first place, and why characters with unparryable openers are most viable

>>179816118
Wait, I messed it up. Actually it means that their block was on the same side as your attack when they were dodging it. Completely irrelevant glitch

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>Styling on someone
>They start to soft feint fucking everything

I love this game, but holy fuck I'm getting tired of this crap

I cant find a class as fun as kensei but also playable meta-wise.
should i get the shinobi? what class is like kensei only not totally outclassed?

>>179816085
Where did the valk sweep you to make you so salty?

>Everyone is just playing LB now and only shoving off of blocks

Fun game

>>179816435
>losing to a valk ever
Are you on console? You can't actually think valk is anything but bottom tier on pc can you?
>can't feint Becuase of how different her heavy animation is from her lights
>her sweep isn't even garunteed after a light, it's just a bug
>her zone is shit
>has no bugs("""tech""") that can save her like nobushi
To bad she will never be buffed due to being "op" on console

>30 posters
D E D
E E
D E D

>>179817128
fuck

>>179817128

/vg/ has been a fucking ghost town lately

>>179817327
Everyone went to the shitshow in /mhg/

>>179817327

itll go back to normal once the post-E3 shitposting on /v/ dies down

>>179817091
If you don't like her, you don't like her that's fine your argument of her viability is so targeted it just sounds like bait so I'll end this here.

>>179816895
>Fighting LB. All he does is stand with guard on top.
>Do Side heavy and feint it to light
>Get Bashed.
>Do Side heavy feint into another heavy into feint gb.
>Teched.
>He literally does nothing but turtle.
>Start Turtling as well.
>He gets bored and starts a shove from neutral.
>Dodge it and SB/spoiler] him.
>He quits.

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>>179816407
please respond

>>179816287
Conqs block auto changes to match the direction of his block, since you can dodge the light after a shove, conq also blocks it, and since its a dodge, bashes you too, no glitch.

>>179818195
Warden.

>>179818195
Pokes maybe valk or nobu, mind games I say raider

>>179816407
Maybe Valk?
She got similar mobility to Ken and holds up well against most classes.

>>179818195
Warden or oroachie

Why does it feel like sometimes Ken's GB comes out lightning fucking fast? Like every once in a while against him it's like he'll just skip the starting animation and instantly grab me.

I would call it latency, but I only ever see it against Ken.

>>179817091
>not guaranteed just a bug
A bug that makes it guaranteed.
I agree valk is underpowered nonetheless.

>>179818736
people often mess up the input for kensei's forward dash gb, and when they do it doesn't confirm off parry and looks similar to what raider can do. But when it's input correctly it confirms off any parry and looks much faster

>>179818736
Idk, I see it too sometimes, it's always the forward dash gb as well even though it's coming out of a feint, I'd love to know how to pull it off, I can't tech it either for some reason.

>>179818458
It can happen on literally any character tho

>>179819225
My bad

>>179818736
Not sure something I notice when fighting lawbringers is sometimes they'll throw a random gb and you'll I see it coming a mile away and start mashing that gb like always to tech it but don't get the cgb? As if it was untechable or something

>>179817128
>/stsg/ has more posters than this
that's how you know it's bad

How to I beat a defensive warden using Nobushi now that she has the same guard change speed?

>>179821646
Same way as before
You don't

>>179821646
can he dodge kicks and block lights, even ones out of light feint into hidden stance? if so, you don't

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>When they try their hardest, but it's just not enough

>>179821908
Yeah only bothering to parry the non feintable sidestep attacks, I was escaping vortex with sidewinder form but he just started feinting the bash into parry.
Rip I guess.

>Centurions in dom
I'm tired of this shit, time to take out the old Bonqueror and shieldbash all of them to oblivion, I don't fucking care anymore

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>>179807459
>ye olde spam

>every single time me and my friend join dom it disconnects him

Fuck you and your broken game ubijews

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Post mains and/or Wardens
(But mostly just Wardens)

In fact, just Wardens. Everyone must be Wardens now.

>PK is the only female character with a ladylike figure and walk
>Hate her playstyle
Us girls need better representation in video games tbhqfam

>buff character who was already good
>give him like six new things
>now 4th best in the game even after all of his exploits were taken out

>buff character who's been bottom tier since release
>two of his incredibly telegraphed attacks don't rebound on block
>still bottom tier

>nerf top tier character
>slightly reduce small shit that doesn't matter, don't address what the top players consider broken about them
>still top tier

>nerf high tier character that consistently went toe-to-toe with the bullshit of the top tier
>completely gut him and haven't buffed him after three months of being the worst character in the game

Really losing my hope in Ubisoft

>>179827935
>PK is the only female character with a ladylike figure and walk
What about Nobushi?

>>179827935

Nobushi is pretty damn feminine even female shinobi looks better doing the moves than the male shinobi

So will Ubisoft being bought out by this new company be the end of for honor?

>>179828617
No Anon.

Now we will actually be forced to pay for monthly subscription. 30$ each month.

>"glhf"
>Orochi

>>179829142
orochi is not even that bad

>>179829215
t. Orochi

>>179829263
He really isn't compared to a lot of other BS out there.

>>179829419
t. Orochi

>>179828617
What company?

>get hit by a charged cent heavy
>watch a cutscene of him fucking your mouth for like 5 straight seconds
they didn't have to give this character this stupid pinning gimmick

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>>179827531
Iron Legion colour scheme when?

>>179829546
vivendi

>>179829215
He is absolutely anti fun to deal with

>>179829542
Not really; Kensei, Warden and the Law.

>>179829692
All he's really got is being fast-ish and his double top light.

>>179830301
The ZA guessing game makes him an eternaly annoyance. It has gotten worth recently because zone flicker got accidentally buffed

>>179830725
worse*

>getting raped in duels
>still recieve hatemail

What other gaming communities do this? It pains me to see such childishness on a game and I haven't seen it this bad. Hell even when I was playing Gears of War it was never this bad. Is it just the fighting game community in general?

>Ubi announces they have been tracking user disconnections are you are awarded the base XP to appropriate characters, and the base steel for a win for each game you have been dropped from.
How many levels higher and richer would you be fhg?

>>179832232
I only message someone on ps4 to tell them when they are really good desu, I don't know what the average for honor player has wrong with them

Been disconnected from 10 brawls in 30 minutes.
Why doesn't ubi notice this in their stats tracker and compensate us somehow?
I went on my ubi club account earlier to track my play time and over 50% of it wasn't in pvp (over 200 hours total) seriously ubi I'm more conscious about this game knocking hours off my life than I am about cigarettes.

>>179832837
I only message people on PS4 if I have some constructive criticism or advice to give. I taught a Rep 3 Raider his confirms the other day, because I realized during our fight that he didn't know what attacks were guaranteed.

For some reason, Duels today keep throwing me against very obviously new players.

I have a combined Rep of 22 and a winrate of around 70% on every character I play. Why is the game making me feel like a schoolyard bully?

Remove reflex block

So why does Law still get a free shove on block?

>>179834353
>tfw you take a top heavy during the one frame that your guard isn't up

>>179827935
Femzerker is CUTE

Why do i feel quit penalty will just kill the game even further

>warden nerf
>iskys cries like a bitch
>says hes dont with for honor
LMAOing at your life

>>179835720
It seems like, to me, people are quiting just as much as they had already been. But maybe that's just because Cent has a special way of pissing people off.

I also only play duels, so I can imagine the faux-competitive players with huge egos just don't care.

I've fought so many centurions and shinobis that I'm forgetting how to fight anything else

>>179836013
skys can't be done with for honor, can he? he's fucking sponsored.

i don't think he can actually quit if he signed any sort of contract

>>179836013
Does he only play Warden or what?

>>179836013
Who isn't done with this mess of a game.

Me, for some reason.

>>179806091

>trying to parry Cent heavies

Thats just asking to get gbed, hes going to be pretty good if they add chip

>>179836945
meant for
>>179836448

Can I play Shinobi with a clear consciousness now?

>>179837675
No.

So Warden is fucking dead now, right? He is now actually a worse Orochi in everything but ganks.

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do you think hes gonna be ok, guys?

>>179838431
>Deaths: 500

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>>179838483
>Get ledged twice in a match
>My only death
>Scoreboard pop once the game is finished
>Death: 14

>>179837675
On PC sure, only complaint now are shitters who can't punish you! On console NO! You're still nightmare even if someone manages to cancel your kick.

>EasyAnticheat timed out
The fuck

Ok guys heres the new shinobi guide to cancer:
Double dash canceling/multi dashing:
>double dash>hold heavy>double dash
Double dash mix up:
>double dash>ranged gb
>double dash>parry that shitter who thinks he can attack you
>double dash>double dash cancel into another one>kick
Only way to counter double dash cancel is to gb them if you know they'll do it, but then they can just kick.

>>179834408
because turtling is all he's good for

Heeey

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>Have a best game in a couple of weeks
>GPU crashes

>>179848427
What do you mean crashes

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>>179848645

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit

>>179848427
I bet you have shit cooling you weeb fuck.

So the next season should be around August right

>>179850901
Yup.

>>179850901

Somewhere around there I was hoping for more leaks but ubi must be locking down its shit now

>>179851470
?? What do you mean locking down?

>>179836331
nah he plays a lot of warden and cent, w/ a fair amount of zerker

>>179808401
listen to everything this man says

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:(

Why is it that every time I get excited about a balance update, it turns out to make the game even worse?

>revenge nerf
>naruto and gankmaster released

>standardized guard switch speeds
>centurions and lawbringers are now infinitely more annoying

>>179856003
I just want them to remove gear. Elim is the only mode I even like anymore but I keep losing by 1 hit against people with 100 GS over me

>>179855786
That guy needs to straighten out his priorities, and Rome does not wait indeed.

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Fuck, is brawl the only enjoyable gamemode now?

>>179856568
I used to play exclusively Brawl but for some reason Elim is just a lot more fun to me even though I like 1v1 fights. As I said in >>179856465 I just wish gear was removed though.

>>179836013

They fucked shoulder bash. Go practice for 5 minutes, and you'll nail the forced timing they imposed on his GB and cancel. Because now they have to be instant, so there\s no more mind games. Fuck you, weeb faggot.

>>179829620

Fucking NEVER.

We will never have a good neutral color scheme.

Which pisses me off because the fucking weebs and goatfuckers both get a green and yellow color scheme.

It's complete bullshit.

>>179859184
>my 50/50 isn't braindead anymore

wah

>>179859184
>so there\s no more mind games
if this is the case, they should have buffed some other part of warden's kit to compensate. I was always in favor of them taking away from SB, but giving warden other options outside of it.

>Due to having a 300ms guard change, parrying 500ms lights as Centurion was very difficult but very rewarding (60 damage pay off)
>Guard change gets standardised
>Centurion can now parry 500ms lights as easy as everyone else
>Still gets 60 fucking damage from a light parry

>Raider and Lawbringer still get huge rewards off light parries too, with Raider potentially doing 90 damage if his opponent fails to parry the unblockable

>>179860374
parrying is and was independent of guard switch times.

>>179860528
I find this incredibly hard to believe. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but I always found parrying as people without stance delays much, much easier. What probably happens is my brain doesn't go for the parry until it sees my guard in the "right" position.

>>179860614
>What probably happens is my brain doesn't go for the parry until it sees my guard in the "right" position.
that's what it is, as long as your input is correct (heavy attack in the direction of the attack you're trying to parry, at the right time) it will parry, regardless of guard stance direction.

this guard stance change only affects blocking, which helps LB the most as he'll be able to block -> shove more consistently now

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My best Shugo game (yes it crashed the match)

>>179856637
Earlier today I was playing elim and due a couple runners everyone clumped up with only one or two people missing. Then it turned into a massive fucking clusterfuck where I'm pretty sure everybody died and got revived before we managed to win.

We ended up losing that game but god damn if that round didn't remind me why I bought this game.

>I have to play woth absolute shitters on my team

People without at least 2 caps in dominion should face a penalty. I literally lose becauae these dumb fucks go for kills and ignore the points. Likewise I've won several games for the same reason

>>179864263
Elimination is the worst fucking game mode to get paired with worthless retards in
>Load into elimination
>By the time I finish off my opponent 2-3 teammates are dead
>I run and revive the ones that are able to be revived
>Even after reviving them they don't get a kill
>I have to fight a 1v3-4
>This happens every single round
This game needs some form of skill based matchmaking. I shouldn't have to struggle for a win because some retard is so awful they can't get a single kill across 5 rounds even after getting revived every round

>>179864263
I'm running into a lot of new players recently. It hurts when they're on my team in 4v4s, but it hurts even more when I go into duels and I'm the one who has to welcome them to the cold harsh reality of life.

>>179864818
>I'm running into a lot of new players recently

What's with this? I am on PC in Australia and I have seen heaps of low level people lately in every mode. Was it because of the sale? I feel kinda bad noobstomping some guy who just wants to try out his new samurai/knight/viking fightin' gaem.

>>179865041
>>179864818
It's on sale for 33% off on ps4

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>>179806091
>being this bad
Centurion is in a great spot for duels, but terribly broken in ganking situations. He does have confirms, after landing a kick, you can follow up with a guaranteed heavy, only if the player isn't guarding that side; same with walls.
It's just mindgames that make one a good player.
>t. centurion main

>>179866201
>Facing a Rep 9 Valk in a duel as Centurion
>Land a heavy on him
>Punch him into a wall
>Land another heavy
>Punch him into a wall
>Land another heavy
>Repeat until he is dead
>He can't do anything because he keeps guessing wrong
>"What the fuck?" is all he can say when I 100-0 him off a single heavy

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>Shit all over a 7 Cent in two separate 1v1s because he keeps fucking up his parry timing
>Tries to gank me and pops revenge later on
>Kill him again
>Throws a tantrum in the chat about how I'm abusing glitches
I missed a chunk of the chat log but I feel this gets the point across

>>179866712
What glitch does he mean? Getting a charged heavy off a light parry or something?

>>179866945
Nah, he just parries way too early so my unblockable hits him

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>>179866385
Indeed, forgot to mention that needs to be removed completely.
The infinite is retarded and it should never exist in the first place, although if you're lucky enough, you can dodge it if you spam dodge.

>>179867056
I thought it was meant to be removed a couple patches ago, but nope. You can still do it for some reason. Why does the jab even wall-splat?

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Is Toggle Locking only way that I can easily switch between enemies, Like Jesus who the hell thought it was a good idea that R3 only works with toggle locking.

>>179868607
I just unlock target and relock target and it auto switches to the next person

>>179868607
>>179869043
It's gotten me killed so many damn times, it's so frustrating. I think if you turn your camera toward the opponent while you retarget it helps though.

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>>179869043
>>179869462
It'd be so much easier and better if we could also change targets by pressing R3. Unlocking and Locking again doesn't works for me 80% of time. There'd be guy at critical health right next to me, but no. That one guy who's already fighting two of my team mates is clearly my intended target. Then I get killed because the Indicator doesn't know if attack is coming from my left or right.
Bonus points, Grabbing Minions at B Lane.
Extra Rage. WebM

I still cant get my game to launch, who won round 2?

>>179870687
Samurai.

>>179869740
>minion sacrificing his life for his commander
such loyalty ;_;7

>my best character is centurion
>love lawbringer after playing him
>am eh at him even though i've been complimented i think the other person just didn't know how to play their character
Hopefully i can learn to become a great lawbringer.

>>179871528
Lawbringer isn't really complicated. You just go for safe parries into Blind Justice if you're not near a wall, or Skewering Riposte into top heavy if you are. Something weird I saw a Lawbringer do earlier was immediately follow a Blind Justice parry with a Light Riposte, and I have no idea how he did it.

>ubisoft posts a For Honor video
>disables comments
Disabling comments won't stop people from noticing the servers are broken.

>>179871960
I am bad at the timing for these things it's like i can't move my fingers fast enough after parrying, i am using a controller though.

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Who is you're waifu /fhg/?

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>>179873020

>>179874637
What a babe, what's her name?

>>179874737
AD

>>179874773
AD?
More like BB!

>>179874773
MORTEM

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>>179874883
INIMICUS

>>179874951
何!?!?!?!!?

>>179872163
Did they really? Link video

>>179875592
Not all of their videos, but this one for some reason. So maybe it isn't about the servers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tm3e87QBjQ

So what do the Warden changes mean for a non-Warden player? How do I counter the 50/50 now?

>>179878216
If you can't dodge the first bash just light attack him when he goes to the second one

>>179878294
>If you can't dodge the first bash
So I can dodge now? Won't I get GBd?

>>179878475
Idk, the game is about mind games. What class do you play.

>>179878921
>the game is about mind games
Alright is there anyone who knows what they're talking about that can help me?

why is the raider customization so fucking shit, damnit

>>179879241
If you want help then tell us who you're playing as you absolute faggot

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>Go against a Rep 2 Warden as a Rep 3 Centurion
>First round
>Get a guard break on him
>Throw him into a wall
>Heavy infinite him because why the fuck not
>Talk about how fucking stupid that is
>He flips his shit and has a go at me for not playing a "real" character

You know, he has a point, and I am kind of a huge fag, but Warden has a pretty easy time against Centurion, right? Was the Warden nerf really so severe that Shoulder Bash is useless? He didn't use it once during all 3 rounds, then quit after telling me I was "bad" because I let him get me low health while I was just spamming kicks to knock him into lava.

Can i play femnobi without being a gay?

>>179880391
Warden doesn't have that great of a time with centurion, even still you probably played like a faggot.

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Kensei's dash GB is changing to a simple unblockable pommel bash, inflict stun, doesn't stagger for long
Would this be good for an opener?

>>179880610
>it's another "let's give bashes to everyone" post

no

>>179880737
It's the only thing that reliably keep people from turtling the fuck up, and Kensei is one of the few that have NOTHING
I don't know man

>>179880818
Kensei can now get into his unblockable even more easily.

The only buff he needs is making his unblockable actually threatening, so people aren't always 100% sure that you're going to feint it into something.

>>179880870
So basically it's fucking nothing because as you said his unblockable isn't worth shit.

>>179880972
It's not threatening, that's the problem.

It's not like Raider's in the least, which it should be.

>>179881020
I hear you, but how could that be achieved?
Speeding it up?
Make it visually far less obvious?

>>179881094
I'd say make it so it can be feinted later in the animation.

>>179816362
>i'm flicker-zoning right now
why is this hot?

>Playing against a Raider who is high level on other characters but just picked him up
>He's playing really awful so I decide to give him some advice on what to do after parries and stuff
>As I am typing he runs up and hits me with a heavy into a zone
>Fight back with one bar of HP left and lose
>He taunts over my corpse over and over
>Beat him anyway the next two rounds
>Tell him to never fucking do that again
>He disconnects

Some fucking people. I was giving him free advice, and it just made him mad? If he had told me he didn't want advice, I would have shut up, but being so mad you assrush your opponent to try and win?

>>179881510
Depending on how you gave him advice, you may have hit his pride.
Some people are touchy like that, especially more so when they're high level with other characters.

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>>179873020

>>179881687
I wasn't being condescending or anything. Just told him what punishes he can get off parries.

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>

>>179882281
Miserum

So where are the patch notes? What exactly did they do to make all the Wardenbabs cry so much?

>>179883218
Check the pic in the OP of the previous general. It's linked at the top of this one

>>179869740
>>179869462
>>179869043

Keyboard works like thar, its gud

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>anyone from the ES clan joins match

>>179878475

They have to predict a dash before they can gb now, they cant just charge it and gb when you dodge>>179878921

I got centurion to rep 1 finally. Am I allowed to say he's not that fun yet?

>>179884984
Rep 1 is literaly nothing. You can get 2 reps in 1 day if you play dominions and do orders. Knock rep 3, learn some mixups and then you will be able to give a legit opinion backed by fair expirience.

>>179885062
No. I think I have enough experience, since I wasn't doing dominion all day and doing orders. I watched high-level centurion videos, I'm using all his mixups that we know of so far and he's just not fun. He's effortlessly good ganking especially with a nerfed revenge mode, he's not great 1v1 and his gameplan feels railroaded. He's not fun.

>>179885551
I mean I'm rep 4 on cent and I left him myself because I didn't like him but I really don't feel like watching high level videos give any credit on whether he's fun or not.

>>179885884
They don't. I watched them to learn mixups.

>>179884984

I think he's fun as fuck
>He has more mixups than most characters
>If you have a bully somewhere inside you 4v4 becomes fun.
>Best emote spam in the game
>Only mythic outfit in the game worth buying
>Constant salt even if you normally won in 1v1 without actual bullshit

>>179885943
>Best emote spam in the game
This is factually wrong since Lawbringer exist.

>>179886025

The Intellectual spam still makes me crack up, it's so dumb. But yes Pony is up there too

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>rep 13 warden
>dressed like an edgelord
>spams taunts when he wins rounds
>wins
>complains about nobushi
a special kind of cancer

>russian playing rep 4 shinobi
>kill him with my berserk
>STOP HACKING
>FUCKING NOOB

Nothing is funnier than a triggered ruski

>>179886494
There was an orochi in Dom yesterday that accused every single person that killed him of hacking, probably russian too. Even made his own teammates leave out of shame

>>179869740
An attack should start on your left external guard indicator but as you're both moving, suddenly change to the right, external guard is supposed to be easier than regular guard.

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People should not be mean to Roman and the others on stream you know... they work on the game put up with your shit and weekly go on through despite knowing that soon their lives will be living hell under Vivendi, if they even keep their jobs at all

>>179889209
Game devs have it rough, it's probably the industry with the harshest most frequent criticism also

can you Dynasty Warriors in this game or is it PvP always?

>3-5 min ques for Dominion
Dead on PC
Dead on Consoles
such a fucking pity

>Brawl as Centurion
>Against a Raider and Nobushi
>Raider never feints his unblockables and follows through with them every time
>Tries to ledge me and fails
>Runs off and revives the Shinobi to make it a 2v1
>Fucking murder the shit out of him, then assfuck the Shinobi when I only have a single bar of HP left
>"omg cent is so op play a real hero scrub"

Bit rich coming from Raider, who more or less hard counters Centurion. If you can't beat a Cent 2v1 with a Raider and Nobushi, maybe the problem isn't the Centurion.

How do I counter cent's tap heavy anons?
I can usually block it but it's really fast and I can't parry it for shit.

t. zerk

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>50% sale on PSN
>bought it,like a fucking retard
>uninstalled after 1 hour
the game is unplayable at 30 fps.

>>179889776
What do you mean by tap heavy?

>>179890075
Quick heavy I guess?
>>179889776
They're basically light attacks with power of heavy behind them. The first one comes out at 600ms second at 500ms. So Unless you're good at parrying lights there isn't anything you can do.

>>179890075
Uncharged heavy as in tap right mouse button.

>>179890153
>>179890175

Oh, the chain heavy? First one is parry bait being 600ms, but the second heavy in the chain comes out at around 500ms as the other Anon said, so your best bet is to just block it and dodge the likely punch follow up for a guard break.