/parag/ - Paragon General

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>>179381778
For real though: finally got "good" (don't want to jinx it) with Kwang: he's a beast once you learn how to use him properly/ who he can and cannot fuck up.
>enemy Morigesh comes through the jungle trying to get me in a pincer between her and Aurora
>have it warded, so see her coming the whole time
>tether as she comes through the jungle fog, shock that bitch, ult, smack her as she tries to flee
>turn on Aurora
>lightning, Thunder Cleaver, Bloodsoaked Armour
>DOUBLE KILL

Someone's going to have to bump this soon, otherwise we're in trouble.

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>rip thread


Anyone got tips on iggy and scorch? I've been trying to keep up with my team but my turrets don't do enough damage even with oil slick.

>>179383094
I never used Iggy back when he was top tier, and I'm sure as shit not going to start now. That said, I've seen some decent Iggy's in matches lately, but I'd still rather have anyone else.
Have you tried ability penetration?

>OP is still featuring leaks from 4 months ago a dead site and heroes who released in april but wont add a single imgur link to the results of the bush survey

>>179383606
Yeah I did, but im not sure how hard I should go with it Cuz he's pretty mana intensive especially early game, and his basic attack is more a catalyst for his other abilities rather than actual damage

>>179383746
Basically what I mean is that I dunno how much penetration I should invest in over mana

>>179383852
30. but iggy is better as a tank again anyway

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>>179383665
Man, I went to the trouble of changing the hero releases and version notes, cut me some slack. You want to add the bush diaries to the OP, then by all means make the next thread.

>>179384276
Tank Iggy back in vogue? Is he anywhere close to Legacy levels of annoying?

>>179385059
>You want to add the bush diaries to the OP, then by all means make the next thread.
considering its the weekend and we're entering yuro time i might get the chance very soon.

as far as iggy he's nowhere near legacy levels but with the tank stat buffs and new cards hes a pretty solid tank while retaining his amazing split pushing. you just have to realize you have 0 responsibility to ever be in any fight that doesn't involve 3 people wailing on you while you're taking a tower or inhib

how do I try new heroes and not get discouraged when everyone just gets mad that I'm not very good at something I've never played before?

>>179385887
Yeah, that's a double-whammy of thread poison It's 3:30 in the civilised parts of the world. Godspeed, bushbro.

>>179387823
You could try them in bots until you're completely familiar with how their kit works (both against other heroes and with regard to the map, like what jumps Wukong can make, using Kwang's ult to escape/ mix up opponents, etc.) I took Wukong into a bot game on release and discovered you could clear both stairs on safelane with his jump, then cloudwalk all the way to the river by Prime.
Try using characters that are in some way similar to the ones you already use in role, and just apply the basics (last hits, not pushing too far, warding, setting lanes and grouping for fights, etc.).

Anyone down to queue up later? I've been solo queueing and only been getting retards, and im pretty sick of losing because of a team that doesn't know shit about the game.

>>179389956
Even premades are no guarantee of good matchmaking, man: I was invited to round out a 5 stack and there was one guy on the team that was just awful (last pick in draft, he took Rev offlane for some crazy reason).
I looked him up on agora and he was low Bronze. The weird part is, his profile didn't show him as being friends with anyone else in the party, and the guy that invited me was just as confused. If /parag/ is going to have queues together, we want to make sure it's a sekrit club with no shitters.

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>>179390256
>/parag/
>no shitters

>they took down Achido's banlist
oh boy, the shits I had reading that, it's especially funny when you know half the people on the list

>>179392578
What streamers were on there?

>>179392578
the original version is still up
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NKMFrainKk5-eWtt_N0EV2T0Zsz98eP2aMLhQYC5GcI/edit#gid=0
>tfw my smurf and my real account eventually made it onto this

>>179392578
Who? What?
I have a list of people that I intend to pay back for being cunts if I see them on the enemy team (or dodge if they show up in my draft because they were just that bad): something like that?

>>179393070
Didn't Notch get heaps rectum ravaged by this?

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>>179395115
most fat neckbeards did. im sure he had all his friends in master league boost him especially hard after it came out to calm his autism

>>179395794
my favorite part of this game btw was him first pick insta locking serath offlane going 0-6 within the first 10 minutes and then telling the jungler to switch roles with him

>>179395794
Why are all the "poster boys" for the community such fuckwits?

>>179396119
I like Nibori well enough

Grux support. Could it be a thing?

>>179397178
this isn't legacy so grux can't pull people out from behind the tower crystal so i wouldn't recommend it

>>179397178
I see it very rarely. On paper, it sort of works (the pull is effective peel), but unless you have some hyper-specific team comp' in mind that absolutely requires a Grux, there's no reason to not go with a real support.
In a word: no

>>179394606
It's a list this guy made that just criticizes other players

>>179402156
I see. Well there's method to my madness, at least: that guy just seems kind of obsessed.

>>179396119
because all the poster boys for this community are trash players who suck too much at dota league hots overwatch and smite to actually have anyone care about watching them play it. i honestly hope one day this game gets a shitton of money pumped into it so anyone who plays those games actually has a reason to fuck with this one just for the monumental autism rage that will result as all the elite players and streamers get rolled by them

>>179402925
No, I think it was just a little hobby for laughs
I wouldn't pass doing it myself for shits and giggles if I had the idea before
You also see the same circle of people once you hit platinum too, so it's easy to keep tabs on who's a shitter and who's not. The dude is in masters too, so you'll be in queue with an even tighter group of people once you're diamond and above.

>>179402994
That implies a skill ceiling that I don't think exists yet. There're only so many strategies you can employ in a given match of Paragon, considering the relatively small amount of heroes and viable cards. I think the "pros" are safe for the minute.

>bm a Wukong who was dead weight until he got 60
>B-BRO, IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT KILLS
>I-I'm GONNA REPORT YOU FOR ABUSED COMMUNICATIONS
>he couldn't talk shit about my play because he knew I carried his ass
He actually seemed startled too, just because you managed to sneak OP doesn't earn my forgiveness for almost throwing the fucking match. He couldn't talk crap either because I was carrying hard until that point.

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>>179406816
Most Wu's are fucking atrocious in my experience.

>>179406816
>>179407259
Hes there to split push primarily remember that,

>>179406816
I had some dude who was playing wukong last night and all he did was chase kills and steal my jungle, he never set lanes and he gave me shit for low kill involvement because I was always setting fucking lanes.

>>179407663
Yeah, but he only had 1.2k damage on towers in 48 minutes, whereas I had 1.5k and 74% kill participation. If he wasn't split pushing, what exactly was he doing? Jungling would be my guess.

why do i keep winning games as crit mid dekker what has happened to this games playerbase

>>179410940
I use to win games in legacy as dekker mid, its nothing new senpai. Whats your elo, I wanna do it again

>>179410972
i hit plat last night doing it i havent checked exactly what it is now but im doing it on a screw around account my real account is usually around 1600

>get utterly demolished by the same 5 man premade twice in a row
>two plats and three silvers
>the silvers keep their winrates at exactly 50%
Just fuck this game, man.

>friend invites me
>group is already full
What did he mean by this?

>>179416623
He wants you to see that he's very popular: he's always sought your approval.

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>0 wins and 5 losses today
Time for a break

>wait, that name is familiar
>oh no, not that guy AGAIN
Does the matchmaking like throwing one particular person at you over and over again, /parag/? I've seen the same shitty feeder in so many of my games that I'm starting to get Para-noidlol

The Euro tourney qualifiers are on twitch lads

/paragoneu_en

Literally just joined one match and not even 10 minutes in we're down to inhibs


I need to stop playing early in the morning Cuz its only shitters

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>>179423158
iktf
I logged on earlier and it took six minutes to find a game: my teammates insta-locked Shinbi and Riktor. Should have trusted my instincts and dodged.

>>179424292
It seems like every wu and Rev that I get put with are literally just picking up the character with the starting decks


Crunch getting picked should have been the immediate dodge tho

>>179424591
I've seen some good Crunch's, but they're rare. I think folk picking Rev or Wukong just do it because they're new and shiny/ ghost cowboy with gun and Goku; no idea how to carry.

>>179425319
Shitter wu's are only good for sneaking in orb mid-late game, and Shitter revs are just dead weight

I wish there was a good crunch that knew how to gank

>>179425407
A shitter Rev can still scar+obliterate squishies and wail on towers.

>>179426265
if a rev could do basic shit he wouldn't be a shitter

>>179425407
Just had a Rev that annihilated

He solo'd orb twice and had a k/d/a of somewhere around 15/4/9

Why are 99% of wu players autistic mouthbreathers? I swear they are always a liability for both teams rather than a helping teammate.

The meta is literally whichever team has a better phase+fed character that can carry their braindead ape escape is the one that wins

ded

>it's a fed Revenant episode

Gotta love junglers that just want to farm all game instead of ganking problem targets.

>>179438243
playing with a diamond player the other day who decided to play ape escape

he splitpushed most of the game, invaded enemy jungle and smashed people 1v1
snuck down their t2s and inhibs while we were busy doing the mid dance.
he did this consistently for all the games we played, and usually ended a game with 300+ cs, it was insane to me after seeing all the shitter wukongs that gold/plats play.

The difference in ability even between plat and diamond is staggering.

I'm new to the game and pretty confused as to where a champion could go. Can an adc potentially go mid or offlane?

>>179449415
Some people like to do this but it's I highly recommend that you don't do this
Just stick to the safelane so you're not a burden to the team

>>179448256
some mids can support and offlane and jungle share a lot of the hero pool, but adcs always go safelane
rev would make a godlike mid if obliterate wasn't hot garbage at clearing the wave

>>179423158
That's literally not even possible unless all 4 other members just afk'd.

>>179450002
whoops
>>179449415

>>179450002
>>179449725
Thanks. Should I spend my renown on those mastery packs for my fav champ? How does that work btw, does it give me instant lvl 10? Or should I just buy card packs. I was confused because I saw a serath go jungle and I thought she was an adc

>>179450369
>Thanks. Should I spend my renown on those mastery packs for my fav champ?
no all it gives you are two skins use renown on cardpacks till you've got a decent amount of cards then buy the mastery

>>179450369
Since you're just starting out, invest them in card packs and deck slots instead.

Masteries reward you for playing a lot of a single hero, but I'd suggest you feel out more characters before spending so much rep on that.

>>179450369
>I saw a serath go jungle and I thought she was an adc
Serath jungle does work.

>>179450369
Okay, so back to the carry thing, ranged carries belong in the safelane but melee carries like Serath and Wukong belong in the offlane
Just wanted to clear that up
Some people like to take melee carries to the jungle too but they're a burden in the team there too
I'd spend your rep on card packs so you have more tools to experiment with but if you're really fixated on one hero, go for the hero mastery
The hero mastery is just a leveling thing you unlock when you buy the pack, it rewards you for every level until you reach mastery where you get the mastery skin
It doesn't automatically earn you the level 10 either

>>179451406
>but melee carries like Serath and Wukong belong in the offlane
How comes that?

What is the reason for that?

>>179451875
>How comes that?
because in paragon having a melee carry be your primary source of dps isn't ideal. melee carries need to build some armor in oorder to survive teamfights which limits how many cardpoints you put into damage. where as a ranged carry would ideally be baack be hind he teamfight dealing damage. that's at least why i think so.

>>179451875
Most people will argue and say they can go in safelane or jungle but if you're taking a melee carry into safelane, you're lacking that ranged poke and you'll be playing with more risk since you'll be in the thick of the fight
In the jungle, all they'll be doing is farming, they lack any hard cc to get an effective gank going, you're also taking a spot where you could've put a tank in or a solid frontline instead
In the offlane, you'll be lacking cp but can catch up and be ahead in levels, it's a lot safer and ideally you'll want to have a frontliner in the jungle too
If Wukong goes in the safelane, all he'll be doing is split pushing too, so you'll be lacking your main source of dps in team fights if you don't have another carry
He belongs in the offlane because he can catch up in levels and farm to catch up faster because of his passive
Offlaners are sometimes unaccounted for too so you have an easier time split pushing in the lane too
>>179452185
Don't build armor on melee carries, just build health for early game if you really want to be a bit bulkier and switch that out for lifesteal/damage later

Is anyone else just getting retarded amounts of reputation? I've been opening the chests I get from just playing the game, and I've only been getting reputation from them, yesterday I had like 10k reputation, today is 105k

>>179452185
I always only play lifesteal. No armor or health at all.

>>179452904
rep gets handed out like candy. high ranked streamers sit on like 2 million

>>179452664
Ok, Thank you.

I'm new to the game and always only heard that carry's belong on the safelane, it's even written in the description of the safelane, so i was a bit confused about it. But it makes sense i guess. Will try it the next time i'm playing.

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>sev jungle time
>early to mid game my offlane and safe lane complain about my lack of rotation despite me having the most kills
>my team is somehow platinum and doesn't understand that SEV NEEDS HIS FUCKING STACKS
>proceed to be the only one on my team actually making plays
>even late game, my offlaner makes excuses on why his inhib went down so fast, cuz my lack of rotation

>end of same game, carried my team
>taking their core
>about to win but wanted another kill so root their phase next to their base and try to ult her out
>enemy wukong jumps behind me and expands dong
>ded

If anyone wants my sev deck lemme know, I think it's pretty good

>>179458297
Please, I need a decent sev deck to get off the ground with

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>>179458482
notes:
>not shown: 2 dummy wards, one for start and one for second card (will explain)
>use oasis syphon and keep for a good while
>When you hit 6 cp, fill out syphon
>When you hit 9 cp, get your second dummy ward
>When you hit 12 cp, scrap the dummy ward and buy madspore. dont upgrade madspore until later
>next, buy the 6 point guardians ward
>then buy the 7 point swiftcreek heart(kinetic helps with jungle clear, the card has a big health bonus)
>Buy 6 point tempered plate

After this point, you can delete and add whichever remaining cards you think best fit what you need in a particular match.

Additional notes
>prioritize stacks, a good sevarog doesnt need to build damage, because your stacks give you ability damage
>Madspore sash as an early game card might seem strange, but it works for me. It helps a lot in clearing jungle camps, and it does a ton of damage over time during team fights.
>Upgrade priority: Q>R>E>Right Click

Final build is

12 cp Sages ward
10 cp Tempered plate
11 cp tuned barrier
10 cp Swiftcreek heart
8 cp thermobond
9 cp Madspore Sash

>>179458297
Jesus Christ. The monkey always feeds. ALWAYS. I can't rmemeber the time I've seen a decent monkey.

>>179459692
not shown in screen shot: the two dummy wards, a health pot, and a jungle drink.

>>179459716
Yep. He was laning against the enemy wukong mid and late game, and was getting out played. He lost our inhib in a 1v1 while the rest of our team was in a team fight on the opposite side of the map. That nearly lost us the game. Also he never pinged that he needed help until after he died, so no one on our team could get there until our fight ended and by then it was too late.

>>179459716
Also, despite being 1 and 3 their monkey was pushing hard and almost won them the game

>>179460214
That's always how it seems to go
>their monkey
>not even good and getting carried hard but pushes so hard its a nightmare

>your monkey
>not even good and getting carried hard but doesn't fucking do anything all game, usually 0-x

WHY WONT ANYONE PROTECT THE FUCKING SPARROW. I CRIT FOR FUCKING 620 I CAN WIPE THE WHOLE FUCKING TEAM BY PUSHING R IF YOU JUST KEEP ME ALIVE FOR 5 SECONDS OR STUN SOMEONE. 64% WIN RATE AS HER AFTER 50+ MATCHES NOW DOWN TO 51% BECAUSE OF THE PAST WEEK.

>>179471096
because chasing kills is more important than protecting your backline
duh

duh

>>179471096
Nobody protects the backline in solo Q. Just pick someone who protects the backline herself while also doing crazy amounts of burst. A certain Lieutenant.

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>>179475461
bruh i love me some bush but theres only 1 waifu in my heart

>>179471096
Sorry, if your phase isn't good enough or god forbid you don't have one, you can't win

>only me and the monkey are alive
>enemies pushing midlane
>i'm standing at mid t2 and telling monkey to retreat
>he doesn't listen and runs towards the enemies and tries a 1vs4
>dies instantly, can't even use ape escape tactics
>starts spamming good job and tells us how he lost the last 5 games because his team is always shit
Are monkey players literally retarded?

>>179479539
any monkey who tries to actually fight is retarded. ive played 4 games as him and i have 2 total kills across all 4 but ive got an inhib down by 25 minutes in 3 of them

>>179478645
ive had 2 phase supports over 13 games

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>first draft
>Shinbi safelane
>dodge
>second draft
>Kallari Jungle, Iggy mid, support Rampage
>dodge
Do these people honestly expect to win with these team comps? I mean for fuck's sake.

>>179483182

>Implying team comp matters in Deathball: GOTY Edition

>>179479539

It shocks me that people still think Wukong is for anything other than split pushing empty lanes. Trying to fight as Wukong is the sign of a true shitter. He's a garbage, worthless character against any team who has good waveclear and pays attention to their lanes.

>>179485532
>implying deathball still exists when obama can take a tower 100 to 0 in 5 seconds

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Man, I've been having bad games and dropping elo, I'll be doing great in my offlane but my team will just fuck things up, feed the carry and make bad calls.
I've switched to playing jungle for a few games and I feel like I have more control of the game and where it goes than before.It might just be that I'm falling into a inefficient routine or something but either way, I'm finding it fun to play jungle now.
Just had a game with a Gadget who would always work with me, I'd tether and she'd follow up with the damage every time. We had 2 carries on our team but they were kind of useless, they didn't do bad but they wouldn't really do anything at all.

>>179486639
oh hey buddy i played against you last night on my smurf i thought your name was familiar

How do I keep fed as Kwang Offlane?
I rotate to help every chance. I get, but it ends up costing me cxp, and by mid game I'm often behind. This doesn't happen when I play Countess Offlane because farming waves with her is so much easier. Do I just have to get better at last hitting every minion I see?

>>179492496
>I rotate to help every chance. I get
stop doing that unless your team is taking important objectives like op or raps or its late game. if your team wont lose the game or something important (raps, OP, a T2) even if they lose a fight you dont need to be in them.
farm your lane and force pressure in it. ive been playing a shitton of kwang offlane lately and im almost always second behind the carry in cxp. farm it up force that lane pressure and if the other team is dumb you'll get a free T2 down by 20 minutes while everyone else is fucking around and then you can start roaming and frontlining

>>179493003
>>179492496
and if you're bored enough to watch some replays for what i mean in action heres 3 replay IDs from my screw around account. they're low plat/high gold so not the best competition but it should give you a general idea

e4f4324cdc004a11bbec1b3218ee0613
1aeef87bde6449208253e708e8e9ffe5
8a1fb105d127492684222f5983a1f3ad

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>>179493003
>>179493620
Cool, thanks: I'll give it a look next time I log in.
In other news, Phase is perfectly fine the way she is and Epic should leave her well enough alone until I'm finished abusing this broken piece of-
I mean
this well-balanced and difficult-to-master hero.

>>179495043
ive actually been doing the opposite i play phase on that account and intentionally let all the shitters play like shitters and dont cover for their bullshit. its hilarious how pissed off they get when they realize they actually have to try to play the game and its helps me relieve all the stress i get from phase existing in the matches i actually care about.
the fact ive actually won some matches doing this though is just proof of how broken she is

>>179490919
IGN? Or is this Captain Cooladge?

Dude its fucking crazy how well Belica can carry an entire team of shitters way harder than the actual braindead carries ever can

>>179500190
I know Belica's good, but can you explain how you go about carrying with her? I mained her for a little while on Legacy, but mid on Monolith just pisses me off.

>>179499851
2legit2crit i was the wukong who did literally nothing the whole game except split push down left.
would have actually won doing it if the mori didn't disconnect

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bump

>>179501945
Oh yeah, I remember that game because your split pushing was a pain in the ass and our Wukong did nothing all game.
That was a close game, if I remember correctly. We should get a game sometime, I'm not a shitter, I swear.

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>>179501954
Don't jinx it man, this game loves to smack you down hard when you think you're finally making progress. Also pretty funny how the genral seems to find the same character at the same time: I'm seeing a lot of Kwang talk in here these days (and with good reason), it reminds me of all the Countess mains we had a couple of months ago.

>>179502405
>Countess mains
not him you're replying too but i was a countess main and she made me make it to mid plat then i switched to carry and made it to diamond.
But i sure as fuck wasnt ready for this skill gap that exist up there.kinda wishing there was a elo in between because i someone can carry a team in plat but once i make it in to diamond i feel like im dead weight and the team is carrying me...

>>179502526
I don't see how that works: surely there's a gradual increase in skill all the way? I know that the higher you go, the smaller the player pool, so the chances of finding a truly balanced game are even worse than in lower brackets (somehow), but you'd have to think that there's a better system in place.

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do you ever just

>>179502978
Nope, there's an MMR cap at around 1650 because Epic is literally retarded, once you go over the cap you suddenly jump from playing with windowlickers to playing with the best of the best.

>>179459692
>no thunder cleaver
congratulations youre retarded

>>179503672
>implying anyone besides the top 2 players are decent
ive played against suki- twice and both times he's shit the bed. (still lost because my team is unga bunga tho)

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>>179503693
>builds thundercleaver on sev and calls other people retarded

>over 200 games over legacy and mono as queen of bush
>2 vault rolls have been card packs and gold chests
how does epic manage to fuck up even the simplest things

what are you guys predictions for the upcoming patch notes? im going with
>no phase nerf
>some shitty out of place and terribly animated dancing taunt
>an ugly banner that still after 3 months doesn't even work half the time and just exist to make people think the fey appeared out of nowhere
>a recolor of a challenger skin

>>179504387
>hit camp twice and use q to get full stacks
>or wait 3 minutes with madspore to get full stacks
hmmmmm

>>179504912
>100% always on damage with a huge AOE on the tankiest character in the entire game that also can have tank stats built on it
>a one time burst every 20 seconds thats barely longer than a normal attack and wont do that much damage because no one builds power on Sev
hmmmmmm

>>179505067
>he doesnt know about the cleave on normal autos
congrats
youre retarded

>>179505336
why do you need cleave on sev how bad are you at this game sev has 0 problems clearing camps

>>179505428
>what is early game
>he doesnt know how good the burst is for ganks
stay silver

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>>179505569
>what is early game
a time that you shouldn't be wasting 5 points
>stay silver
thanks i will keep grinding out of bronze and i hope to meet you in a lobby eventually

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>>179505769
S T A Y
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>>179505851
hi zharkos still queing up with 3 people in gold so you can get boosted to diamond and then bitch about how unfair the matchmaking is every thread

>>179506109
>three people
its one person and ive been playing with her since the start. she's like 4 points from plat

>>179506286
>she's like 4 points from plat
im glad you have something in common. nice job on your previous 3 matches against all plat teams btw really proving you belong in diamond. i wonder why you didn't bitch about the matchmaking in them

>>179506612
because the skill difference from 1600-1800 isnt as wide as 1800-2600 and its actually an even matchup?

>>179506674
thanks for admitting you got boosted most people can't

>>179506773
its not like being diamond is a fucking accomplishment when people over 2000 still dont know what cs is

>>179506932
that wasn't sarcasm. half the people in diamond have sub 50% winrates and barely 1.5 kda but still think they're actually good. my favorite part of getting getting in the 1600s is facing them and laughing at how terrible there are and then hitting 5 games in a row vs a 5 stack and falling back into the 1500s until the cycle repeats itself all over again.

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>pointless dick-swinging and drama
We're doing it, lads: we're becoming a real moba general

>>179507291
i wanna cum on belica's bush

>>179507384
I want to own Serath as my gf and cum on her bush

>>179507731
>implying serath wouldn't do the owning

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>>179508142
I would be fine with that, too.

>>179508893
me too

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>>179500190
Fuck oath, Belica is based as fuck. Braindead carries are the fucking worst. I had to direct this shit show today. My friend was Khai and we were always bailing out the other tards. I felt bad for the Belica on the other team because they probably should have won.

>>179510770
>Enter Shikari
Blast from the past

>>179511432
2007 was a good time.

>>179493003
I've got to say: this works.
Everyone was down on mid showing off how big their dicks were in a fight that my team won by degrees, and by the time they realised what was going on, it was too late: their Countess had to run with my team chasing her every step of the way, only to arrive in time to see their left inhib go down.
Anyone noticing a bug with Kwang's ult being greyed out lately, though? I had to go the last stretch of the match without it; I think it happens when Phase blinds you or something.

>>179511603
Jesus, a decade? Feeling old.

>>179504862
3 out of 4 boys!

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-40-4-release-notes

>>179514847
>still no phase nerf
Alright that's the final straw honestly. Time to uninstall. Maybe I'll check it out again when/if it ever comes out of beta if I still remember it exists by then, but for now I'm done with this shit.

>>179516203
Calm down mate.

Just make a new account and play in the lower ranks, where Phase doesn't make a significant difference.

>>179514847
Card rework when?

I'm finally getting to the point where I understand deck building strats, can't wait for it to have been a waste of time.

>>179503693
Post your sev deck, elo, and win rate. That's my deck, last match I played last night I hit 140 stacks at 27 minutes. The only reason you would need thunder cleaver is if you are a noob who sucks at farming

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>>179510770
>mid-high golds being matches with silvers
EPIC GAMES' PARAGON DEVELOPMENTAL TEAM

I just had a 3vs5 and our Wukong secured us the victory.

He solo destroyed the mid inhibitor and damaged the core until 18%.

Then the enemies tried to push all three lanes at the same time, so monkey and i rushed through the jungle and appeared at their base. We both died but we won.

Was a fun game, even though we were only 3.

>>179505851
>posts his elo as if he thinks low diamond is an accomplishment, especially when he is allegedly boosted

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>>179502405
POST KWANG STATS

Give me best aurora build

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>>179528168
No. I've only played about 30 games with him, and half of those were from when I was shit with him.

>>179534274
>>179528168
Although Interestingly enough, we have the exact same win %.

>>179534274
Yeah, about my first 30 games I was garbage with Kwang too. I think I had a 40% win-rate with him with a KDA under 2. I really wanted to use him though and eventually got good, he's the only hero I have fun with.
I stopped playing him for a long while and >>179501954 happened but then I decided to pick him up in jungle again and I'm climbing my way up again.
Aiming those tethers and building for damage is probably your best imo, I go 60/30 for damage/tank.

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>>179528168
>made a new account to dick around on
>make kwang deck with 100% lifesteal and all other cp is damage
>rek enemies due to being so far ahead

>>179537680
It really shouldn't work, but I suppose you could build all Portal Stones with a smurf and still get Plat.

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>mfw the Reddit dicksuckers try to argue that Phase has, and I quote:
>a low floor but a super high ceiling

>>179537680

>100% lifesteal

Theres no way youre able to do any damage

The best part of Wukong's release is that any team that has him sacrifices a solid offlaner or jungler like Kwang or even Khaimera. The team that decides to forego Ape Escape and just go with a half-decent team comp generally comes out on top because 9/10 Wukongs are incredibly shit.

>won 72% of my games as Phase
I only pick her when I'm forced out of the roles I want to play, but damn: that's still the highest success rate with any character.

>>179544439
I don't entirely mind an easy support for those who aren't used to the role, like Revenant is for ADCs, but she's too easy to do too well with is the issue.

>>179543116
You misunderstand, I only spent the minumum amount of cp to get to 100% lifesteal, I had cp left over to build some damage

How come whenever my team loses, I, the sevarog tank that protected the inhibs for a good long while and ganged like hell, securing several kills that otherwise wouldn't have been gotten


I get blamed Cuz I didn't put out enough damage

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>root 4 enemies as sevarog while caught out
>decide it would be worth dying for if I could ult all 4 of them
>get stunned and raped before I hit the grand slam

>>179542642
I mean, they aren't wrong. In an idiot's hands she's not only useful, but will literally get you killed. Give her to someone with a working brain, and the other team hates life.

>>179542642
>>179556005
I agree with plebbit on this account

>>179556005
>>179557462
I'm not so sure: there's a difference between a good and bad Phase, sure, but she's not some insanely complex hero with untapped potential waiting to be unlocked by pros.

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>enemy Rev is always pushing a lane without his support and without warding
>come up behind him as Kwang 4 separate times and melt the poor bastard
I had all the time in the world to line up the tether as he auto attacked the waves.

>>179561424
No, but it requires a fair amount of prediction to use her Ult in a proper maner, especially in solo-Q. Rooting takes decent aim and prediction, and good players can abuse the shit out of retethering with no cooldown to give blinds where necessary.

Sure, she's not quite Cruch, but in terms of Paragon, she is does have a pretty high skill ceiling.

I don't know: I'll throw my ult on the frontliner that just dove headfirst into the fight every time, and it generally does the trick: everyone else is trying to focus me or him (hard to do when blinded) while the rest of the team collapses. Otherwise I'll just play it safe and stick to the carry like glue until they need to go back or someone else needs healing.

>>179526180
I'm on OCE and it took 13 minutes to find that game lol.

>>179561424
The difference is just not being pants on head retarded with itemization as well as not having a stroke when playing
Had one example where a mismatched plat phase on the other team was building obligatory support items and cast converter while my gold phase was just building straight regen.

when was this last time this game had a good skin released

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>>179561424
I'd like to consider myself pretty decent with her. She takes more awareness with positioning than other supps. That's why there's (for some reason) phases' that have 8+ deaths a game
like >>179562824
said it's harder in soloq as well.

>>179527139

Who were you playing?

Cause I had a very similar game except I was on the enemy team and WE won by taking two inhibs and pushing. While we were, Wukong and Crunch dove our core from the downed left inhib and then it was a race to see who killed the core first.

Ours was less than 20% health, and they got it down to 1% but we won because we took theirs 100%-0% with a huge wave of OP buffed minions.

It was literally the closest game I've ever had. Literally 1% from losing.

>>179570594
>what is Greystone T3
The electric monkey skin looks cool too
We get plenty of cool skins but since the variations dominate every patch and are multiplied after every cool skin, it seems like ages between them

>Teammates are a 4-stack that have literally never won a game before
Great, thanks matchmaking.

reposting from the thread on /v/ because it's slow

how's the game changed after they remade the map? I played it a bit just after they downsized it and it felt like the game went from a tad too slow to fucking quadruple mach speed GO GO GO FIGHT ALL THE TIME that felt more like an arena brawler than i would've preferred.

>>179381778
So i just started playing and i got 85k rep, i bought 5 card packs and have 35k left. Should I just dump them all on the cards?

>>179585182
Make sure you check out the weekly pack every Tuesday. Usually it is worth getting one set, sometimes worth it to buy multiples for guaranteed breakdown/duplicates of expensive cards.

>>179583794
If im honest it highly depends on who your team and the other team is


Im a jungling sev for the most part so I don't see much action unless teammates call for help or it's mid-late game and I have 150+ stacks

If you're playing, say, midlane sparrow, you're gonna see a lot of ganks and team fights, sometimes more than you'd like

Tl;dr, it's fast depending on the character and role