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erf snek edition
>Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Our pastebin (Don't bother reading this right now, it needs an overhaul)
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed)

>Dom4 Inspector
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Noob questions answered that you didn't think to ask
http://web.archive.org/web/20150430021604/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/core-mp-concepts-that-i-wish-somebody-had-told-me-about/

>Pretender designer
http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0

>Debugger guide and download
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=36453&highlight=debug

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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In case you're wondering how Community Clash is going.
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>>178554769
It's still going? Huh. I thought it was cancelled.
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>>178555138
It should've ended this turn, but we fucked up.
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>>178555138
>Jack Chick's Muslim Moon God
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>>178555218
Who's repping the /domg/?
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>>178555816
sum1won, Carlix, CoolStory, Sy, Lambert
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>>178557303
The first three are the actual players
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>>178557550
Lmabert is our spirit animal.
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>>178557303
Will we get a sick rundown when it is over? Has someone been saving sick screens?

Did we stomp?
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>>178557814
Admins have the turn archive on the server, so it would be possible to make an AAR.
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Is there any reason to try to take your enemy's capital? Even with a force that vastly overpowers what's defending, the citadel is completely insane and allows even a small force to destroy shit 10x stronger than them.
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>>178558958
You have magic in this game, you know.
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>>178559045
A dozen mages. In an open field battle, this would have been extremely one-sided. With the citadel, its the opposite.
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>>178558958
walk in with a scout, then take your time and make a plan.

you can definitely accept to lose troops but not many mages or your sacred stack in storming a capital.

thugs and earthquake casters are a good idea.
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Bump motherfuckers.
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Another mod nation. Gnomes. Size 1, lots of glamour, and giant ground squirrels. Probably needs serious rebalancing.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3380
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>>178563767
I like your modnations, strabo.
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>>178563767
>size 1 dual wielders

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>178564289
M-MASAKA...
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>>178564289
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS
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>>178564176
Th-thanks.
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>>178563767
The big rat-dog sprite is pretty good.
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>>178564415
It's a dire wolf from Might and Magic VIII with some alterations.
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>>178558958
I think that, in general, storming forts when it is unnecessary is a mistake a lot of new playera make. Having an extra cap is nice but keeping the enemy holed up in there is more important than the extra income.
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Their sacreds are size 3 flyers with FOUR attacks, one of which is a lance. Also 15 base defense. And glamor. Put W9B9 on these guys for a good time.

Their mages are an A2X1 (where X can be A or S for storm or com), an E priest (half of which are E2), an E2S2X1, and N2X1 (half of which are N3), and their cap mages are F2E2S2X1.

They have a 25 gem D2 golem with acid shield, perfect for soul vortexing. They also have double-shatterfister golems kinda like summod siege golems, but cheaper and earlier and with only +20 siege. They have a cons 2 spell to get a tanky front line (which doesn't have a cost at the moment? Probably just a bug, but they're free now according to mod inspector).
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>>178564562
Oh, the D2 golem isn't op btw. I really like it. Vanilla golems can teleport where these guys can't, so they lose out on mobility in exchange for their soul vortexing AND they need to carry a D gem to do it. The summons in general are nice, and help provide a front line that isn't size 1 and squishy, since otherwise you'd have a really tragic aoe vulnerability.
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>>178564562
>>178564653
OH AND THE BIRDS ARE RECRUIT ANYWHERE BY ZE VAY
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>>178564562
>which doesn't have a cost at the moment?
Oh shit, I will fix that.

How should I nerf the flyers? Make them cap-only? Remove some attacks?
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>>178564791
Either take out the sword or make the lance break. Right now the riders are stabbing with their lance and swinging their sword every round like true ballers, but that might be a bit much. Taking the short sword also nerfs their defense-tank, which is pretty strong right now.
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>>178564849
>Either take out the sword or make the lance break.
Oh bot, I used the wrong light lance. I intended to use the one-use one.
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How to nerf size 1 dualwielders? Are they that big of a problem?
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>>178565858
they're way lower strength than clockwork horrors. They'll just murder low prot stuff, like elves and water elementals.
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Also, all the summons have a gemcost. That "no cost" thing probably was a mod conflict or something.
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>>178565858
Use aoe spells.
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Glittergem hotfix
http://www.mediafire.com/file/v0z6q0prbglqgl3/glittergem_ea_v0.91.rar

- Burrow Knights, Burrow Defenders, Falcon Riders, and Wing Leaders now have a one-use lance
- Falcon Riders and Wing Leaders are cap-only now
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NewGamePlus Marignon makes his turns last and doesn't do double turns.

Just thought I'd mention it.
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>>178553863
You know, maybe I was wrong.
Maybe each faction is unique in its own way.
I was wrong to try and lump all of them together.

it would have helped ease new players into the game quite a bit, though
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New Game, simple EA romp

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TwoElvesOneGrail
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>>178566951
I saw a guy on steam wanting to play a 1v1 game where he was ragha and someone actually took him up on it. The name of your game just reminds me how dumb that was..
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>>178566951
Imma join
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>>178567264
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TwoElvesOneGrail
I'm going to load a better pretender later, but this is just me caliin Machaka
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>>178567765
Do you smell what the rock is cooking?
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Finally I have a big battle report to share.

I don't think I did too hot here, though.
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>>178570264
>killed 24 Knights
>7 for one mage trade
>Don't think I did great

save the humble-bragging for your desperate attempts to impress the opposite sex anon
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Still looking for an EA Agartha sub. Game is on turn 13, Agartha staled 1 turn, but is in solid position with no ongoing wars and still some room to expand for some reason.

>>178546015
Is this a meme? Who are you?
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>>178571442
I lost less gold, but I lost around 80 gems in summons there.
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>>178571794

I asked what is his bless/position/size
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>>178571858
Get in chat/Discord.
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>>178571798
at least you horrofucked the living shit put of their pretender right?
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>>178572072

I'm there
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>>178572140
I had everything on cascades duty. They took his Children of Tiamat out of the fight completely, and a fair number of his morvarch as well.

I might change some of them over to horrormarks in fights which I'm less worried about losing catastrophically.
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Update to Bracada!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3369

Changelog
v0.95
- New pretender: Naga Empress
- New pretender: Grandmaster Genie
- Pretender roster expanded with vanilla titans
- Titans have their random paths changed from AWS to FWS
- Construct Brass/Bronze/Gold Golems have their E and F paths swapped
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>>178574219
Now where is muh necropolis.
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>>178574327

Undead nation dependent on gold recruits and no domkill could be interesting.
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>>178574572
Basically, make skellingtons recruitable, and have only liches raise dead.
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>>178574626

Necropolis liches dont raise the dead tho, they shoot death fireballs at people.

Recruitable everything and then something to represent necromancy. Perhaps national spell that animates dead bodies in a province into skeleton warriors.
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>>178575492
If you're doing it by game logic, shouldn't heroes automatically spawn skellingtons after battles?
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>>178576241

I fear that would be impossible to do. But yea, would be best.

For troops we would get normal skeletons, skeleton warriors, ghosts, zombies, vampires (not immortal), liches (also not immortal, shooters with aoe ignore undead) and death knights (elite cavalry, perhaps national sacreds?)

Mages would be vampire lords (not immortal), power liches (not immortal) and death knights.

Summons would include skeletal/ghost dragons, mummies, wraiths and maybe other assorted undead.

I think the nation could have a neat mechanic with no upkeep for basic troops like skeletons. Depending how balanced that would be.
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>>178576447
Is there an event that could check for the number of corpses in the province? Then it'd be really easy to do.
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What are Machakans supposed to use for infantry?

Rhino Clan just seems really meh for the cost and everything else is so damn fragile, Lion Clan is spammable but is 14 damn gold.
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>>178576630

Dunno.

For mages I think:
-power lich StR rec anywhere D3 base plus 100% FW random 100% FE random, maybe another 100% WE
-vampire lord rec anywhere D2 100% FW
-dread knight cap only StR D3 base 200% AFEW 100% AFEW
I don't think S fits the nation so instead its skeles plus bane fire plus DA spells out of cap.

Cap gems would be D3F1W1
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>>178576715
oh, i guess this is fixed in summod
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>>178576778
Aren't they more for earth magic and all?

Also, you can balance liches by giving them base (powerful) ranged attack with no AoE, and additional effect in like AoE 5 with damage capped at 1.
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I named my scorpian man pretender Brawndo.

Do you think I should have gone with The Rock or OogaBoogawheredawhitewomenat?
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>>178576778
Of 4 magic schools, Necropolis heroes are weakest in Fire magic, so might be a good idea to remove that one.
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>>178577384
Might leave random F1 for banefire.
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>>178576715
>What are Machakans supposed to use for infantry?
Skeletons and vine ogres, honestly. Their recruitables lose to pretty much anything. Getting another bouda (or saving for another palisade to recruit them in) instead of ~15 troops is the correct choice in 99% cases.
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>>178574219
I might be wrong on the lore, but aren't Titans supposed to be essentially mindless super-constructs (which is why they were immune to mind effects)? Having one as a pretender seens questionable.
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>>178577649
They are constructs in HoMM5. I'm basing the nations more on the classical lore.
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>>178577649
They're cyborgs made by ancient aliens, just like angels. Angels are more human-like though.
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>>178577645
sounds about right.

Machaka has a lot going for it, good paths, strong sacreds, recruitable lions and elephants, spider cav, but their infantry sucks balls.
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>>178577649
>essentially mindless super-constructs
>Having one as a pretender seens questionable.
It's fine. See Colossal Fetish.
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>>178578048
>strong sacreds
Slow down m8. The only thing worth noting about Machaka's sacreds is the stun effect on their attacks, but it's negated by size (doesn't do anything to units bigger than size3) and you only get 2 attacks per square (and their combat stats aren't very impressive either). Even MA Xib's obsidian warriors are straight up better than them.
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>>178555138
First one was cancelled. Somebody else took it up. It's now on turn 60 or so. Domg just went for a throne rush but lost the battle for the last throne.
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>>178578356
Yeah, but their armor isn't absolute garbage like most sacreds, so they don't die to a stiff breeze.
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>Clockwerk Hounds admin spamming retarded spongebob memes and anti-trump/anti-russo garbage
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>>178579082
sounds like a cool guy
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>>178579082
I want to touch her hair.
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>>178579809
They're two-dimensional, just like your taste.
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>>178579082
It's weird how most people not on 4chan dislike trump.
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>>178579892
complex things break
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>>178579942
can we not have this discussion?
Its trolling and off-topic
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>>178578356
okay, I mean, their sacreds aren't great, but a they aren't total ass.
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>>178580069
H-he started it!
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>>178577645
Aren't bouda foreignrec?
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Please remember to submit your turns aniki
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ded
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How do I encourage my opponents to stale?
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>>178586960
use cancer
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>>178586960
Postpone by 168h
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>>178586960
go ai
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Just a heads-up, the VGL8 Qualifiers are starting today and will continue over the weekend. We won't be participating in them, but some of the teams in there will advance to the VGL proper and we might face some of them, plus it might be >fun to watch.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_8_Qualifiers
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>>178590301
Can we fucking win this time, please?
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>>178590347
Can we somehow harness our autism to become unstoppable?
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>>178592183
If /gsg/ can't do it then nobody can.
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>>178593025
So I'm not great at gsg but I feel like Dom is much more micro intensive, there are always small marginal improvements to be made. But gsg is more about the macro and setting up your autopilot well
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>>178593720
>setting up your autopilot well

Once you boil it down there is virtually no strategy to gs.
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>>178566757
>set falcon riders as home-rec
>forget to take them off the rec-anywhere list
STRABOOOOOO
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>>178593720
>>178596594
Inded, singleplayer gsg is super easy.
There are people conquering the world in EU4 with 1 province states.
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>no attack skill
>but so many attacks that it doesn't matter
This should be a unit.
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Hey Admin, everyone has their turn in but squids and they are ded. Can we just host so I can attempt to get my turn in before work?
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>>178602547
You should try 2x axe of hate, 1x frost brand, 1x shadow brand 1x fire brand for the ultimate anti SC heavy thug.
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>>178603460
>get bit by a bug
>explode
no
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>>178602547
>not gloves of the gladiator
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>>178603583
>tfw when I'm drunk and a noob and express an idea on /domg/
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ded thred tonite
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Hey Malakal, if you're around can you get on steam or discord? Notroll
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Hey Faggots,
My name is Forester Bob, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of your day recruiting stupid ass sacreds. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever constructed an item? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take it to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to your bless build.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was the best SC of an disciple team, and pretender on another. What games do you win, other than “jack off to naked drawn priests”? I also get all the gems, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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>>178566951
Hey, is this horsefucker still around?
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>>178608878

Yah?

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TwoElvesOneGrail

Join for intense elf on grail action
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>>178603406
Sure, done.
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>>178612374
You're a good admin
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>>178615913
Thanks!
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Meme Seller

I am scripting for a battle

And I need your dankest memes.
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>>178597829
Why do I always make such dumb mistakes? I should stop rushing things.
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Hey, Ulm, are you alive? You're about to stale for a second time in a row, even though we postponed hosting for Agartha.
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With the debug mod that gets linked around here a lot, you start with every spell at level 0 so everything is castable. This is fine and dandy for testing out the first five rounds of something, but then your mages go off script and cast the most high powered evocations they can.

Is there a mod that lets you set what your research paths are and then you just sort of go from there? Or something that lets you spawn like 200 of a unit without having to set a bunch of mages to summoning it with wishes or something
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>>178627467
You'd have to alter the mod itself to do this. There's something in the OP about what you're talking about but I forget if it ever was finished.
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>>178626569
More like Jomon
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Once more into the fray
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Why inspector is still 4.29?
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>>178632267
>why the generals pastebin hasnt been updated since forever
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>>178590301
What the fuck is this shit and how does it relate to Dominions in any way?
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>>178636538
It's 4chan board related meta-shit. We're on /vg/ so we have to occasionally deal with whatever the fuck the rest of the generals are doing.
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>>178637484
He's ahead of the others.
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>>178637484
Surprised it goes to head butt instead of useless kick.
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>>178637730
>He
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>>178637759
It's probably because it's mounted
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i wish the ai played well and also like a human. playing as multiple or all nations in an sp game is exhausting and not necessarily much like a true mp game though it's pretty fun, playing blitz people are all stressed about taking turns instead of being able to play at their respective paces, and playing normal mp games you can't play more than one or two turns in your game in a sitting
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>>178643061
kinna figured.
How many dummy emails did you use?
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>>178645016
Let's fight just you and me at the park let's go
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>>178645016
no I mean playing solo as multiple or all nations, I've never played more than one in an mp game

currently i'm playing 4 of the 8 nations of a single player game for fun without the timing issues I talked about with blitz or mp
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At one point I saw a guide with a list of all the mages of all the nations and their spell paths. It was in a graph or an image. Can't find it now, anybody got it?
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>>178642225
That's actually really clever.
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what nation has the best recruitable mages
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>>178646703
I personally like basalt kings.
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>>178646703
It depends.
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>>178646703
Marverni
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F O U R M O R E P L A Y E R S
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M A
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R P
E E
P R
L O
A M
Y R
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S R E Y A L P E R O M R U O F

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TwoElvesOneGrail
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>>178646937
fuq
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>>178646703
ma ermor
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>>178647054
You thought it would make a cube right? Same thing happened to me before.
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>>178646937
literally newfags can't triforce
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>>178648865
Please educate us senpai
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>>178648865
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triforce
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>>178645946
Probably not what you're looking for, but there's this?
dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Magic#Distribution
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DED
EE
DED
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>>178654760
Fuck.

▲▲
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>>178654846
I've been in this shithole for like 7 years believe it or not.
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>>178654932
I believe you. I always forgot that alt+ code for uninterrupted space.
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>>178653341
Not what I was thinking of, but almost as good. Thank.
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