/indie/ - Indie and Obscure Games General

Last thread died at 104 posts.

I'd suggest merging with /civ4xg/, but it's been plagued by /gsg/ and /pol/ leaking recently, so I don't know what we can do to kill that general alive.

By the way, I get Oneshot. The cat girl is cute.

Notrium was awesome, werivar expansion in particular.

Can't have a proper obscure games thread because of normie infestation.

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>>177013435
Oh, you reminded me.

is Last Remnant obscure enough?

>ywn find the twin-headed mutant
feels bad man

>>177013759
no, fuck off already

>>177013759
It's certainly shit all right.
>"hey every RPG in forever requires you to grind"
>"let do the opposite so that if people are stuck, they'll only get stuck MORE by grinding"

>>177014704
It's funny, because by now he gave us so many hints about it he all but told us how to find it. By now I think I could... but if I'm wrong then I'd be plunging back into madness, and I'm not willing to do that.

Does anyone know where the single heart piece is in the Vault in Distorted Travesty 3? I only need 1 more for a health upgrade, and that's the only available one (that's not behind a fucking cursed trial holy shit) but since there's no level delineation in the vault I have no idea where it could be, and I don't want to replay the whole vault (especially since I might just miss it again). Anybody know where it is?

>>177017410
What game?

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>>177017490
Distorted Travesty 3.
I'm going and collecting as much health as I can cause the bosses are getting pretty intense. Not like a single heart or two will make a big difference, though.

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>>177017823
...

>>177017984
Well, fuck. I can't help you, sorry.

Which one of you fuckers did this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRGZiappzgM

>>177018218
Don't worry about it, asking for help for an obscure game like DT3 is a shot in the dark anyway.

>>177018465
But this is supposed to be the obscure game thread. I don't feel like I belong when I can't answer.

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>>177018543
Don't worry, I found it.
For those in the future, it's in the vertical shaft where the Abomination chased you.

>>177013759
I'm pretty sure it is allowed based on this general consisting of many other dead generals.

Unless /ffg/ counts Last Remnant among their domain due to very indirect relations with Final Fantasy [Last Remnant is basically a SAGA game, the earliest of which was branded as Final Fantasy in the west] then this is probably the correct place considering /jrpgg/ is dead and gone.

Any good exploration-heavy game recommendations? I beat Axiom Verge recently and it didn't quite scratch my itch.

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Uriel's Chasm was pretty fun, one for the absurdist recs imo.

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Knytt Underground

>>177023075
That looks fun. I played the original and enjoyed it, so I think I'll give this one a go too.

>>177012859
>/gag/ and /gsg/

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>>176970340
They're pointless.
The "improved" graphics don't add anything to the game, in the latest avernum they even make it arguably worse. Same tiles are used for different zoom levels (world map & local mps), so more detailed higher resolution tiles don't fit as well as more abstract ones.

But the worst is his attempts to modernize them: Dumbed down spell & skill systems. The original Avernums still have a decent character system, but many fun spells were removed.

And the second trilogy just isn't as good as the first one.

>>177020974
long live /jrpg/

It was full of lolicon assholes and Idea Factory apologists

>>177025883
Nothing wrong with lolicons.

/jrpg/ had the worst tripfags. They were the most awful little shits and had bad taste

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Damn, the old thread died?

>>176997634
>Funny how after a while you learn that scavenging buildings is a waste of time if you want resources and money
You learnt wrong. Scavenging is THE best way to get loot. Other than killing, but that's more risky. You just need to learn the where, what and how of scavenging. Shit near Detroit is already looted dry, so scavenging is pointless near that corner of the map. Loot and safety bars should always be green, but even at full safety it might be a good idea to avoid certain dangerous locations.

>>176998238
>>177001729
Melee is powerful, but if anything the game favors low-tech survivalist builds and botany is pretty good for that. Tannin tea keeps your immune system maxed and you literally can't run out of safe food.

So what's going on with that new Bubsy game?

>>177025883
>>177030445
Saddens me what /jrpg/ became before it died.

>>177032482
I was never there for the glory days at least I don't think

>Its another 1 shotted in the prison depths episode

Man,i had 5 upgrades for skills , 3 for hp and 4 for damage,and i got knocked up by a Blinking skelelly and blown out by a kamikaze bat.

I hate the Bs undead skellys that make nearby allies invinsible,such a hard area to do without cheesing it.

>>177031720
From what game is he?

>>177021845
Grow Home and Grow Up perhaps if you're in it for the exploration. If you want a Metroidvania, Hollow Knight.

>>177037225
hylics or hylecs or something, it seemed pretty good but I never got it

>>177037225
Hylics.

Pretty uh, interesting, game.

>>177037719
Pros:
Interesting setting
Mind melting randomly generated text for essentially everything
Chill ass music

Cons:
Combat juice (visual/audial feedback for player input) is a bit weak
Mind melting randomly generated text for essentially everything
Weak pacing later into the game

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Someone tell me that the Venus switcheroo in We Know the Devil was actually narrative genius instead of obvious and kind of belittling/offputting please I was so close to finally seeing truth I was this close I WAS THIS CLOSE.

geez stop dying all the time

>want a general for discussing dead cells tactics
>This one keeps dying

pls no

>>177036853
Is he thecatamites ?

it keeps happening

>>177015458
>every RPG in forever requires you to grind
You must have played a lot of mainstream rpgs.

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>>177037898
To clear this up: Randomized text is only for unimportant npcs. Every sign, shopkeeper and npc that gives important directions has nonrandomized text.

>>177048282
I really hate the art direction
I suppose it's post-processed clay photos or something, but it looks nauseating

>>177049606
Yeah it is clay environments but put through low quality conversion. Not sure if rpgmaker could not handle better or if that look is intended.

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>boss design exploiting the fact Claire's hair whip is angled down instead of up
It hurts so good

>>177050834
That is some good gamedesign.

why is being a snake so hard

>>177031670
Part of it is that after my first few times I stopped taking lockpicking, since I didn't have the tools to unlock anything anyway and it did shit all to improve my immediate chances of survival. So any building I found so far on the south-southeast part of the map that were not locked contained nothing but trash.

I did some scouting up north, things were disturbingly quiet up there. Haven't seen a single soul. Almost as if they are hiding like me. Spooky. So I haven't done any scavenging there yet. But bringing things back from such a distance wouldn't be easy. Maybe with a rented car.

But the good news is, if there really aren't that many humans farther away from Detroit, if I find a good secure campsite in a place with little traffic, I could pile up some resources and set up a semi-permanent camp. Noise traps would help, but I hope there are better security options. I found recipes mentioning drones, but it wasn't clear if those have weapons or if they can be used as some kind of physical security system. And even if they can, I'd have to get my hands on one first. And fuck, I think I skipped taking electronics this time. Not good.

But seriously though, how the fuck do I use memory sticks?

>>177051346
To compensate for being adorable.

>>177051695
>I stopped taking lockpicking, since I didn't have the tool
You only need 8 small parts to craft lockpicks and you can recraft them whenever they break, but lockpicking is not really necessary to get good loot. A crowbar also gets you into locked spaces and generally improves loot amount. Strong also improves loot amount and so do lighters & night vision.

>But seriously though, how the fuck do I use memory sticks?
Same way you transfer anything from one container to another.
You need a compatible, unlocked and powered-on device. Put memory stick in one hand, the device in other and you can drag & drop transfer software back and forth.

>>177015458
>every RPG in forever requires you to grind
Are J and MMO "RPGs" the only RPGs you ever played?

>>177052469
>14 hours later
>still SEETHING

>>177052469
>"RPGs"
why are you even still here

>>177036707
I fucking hate the prison depths. I have tried so many times and I have not cleared it even once.

>>177052248
>Put memory stick in one hand, the device in other

Jesus, I never would have figured this out. There is an amount of logic in it, but when I can place electric charges on the ground this feels a bit too complicated. Thanks, man.

And also thanks for the tannin tea tip. I thought it was poisonous, since tannins are not exactly that great for your health, especially in larger doses.

>blade bot fight
There is a point where DT3 needed to stop and it has clearly passed it
but let's keep going and see what happens

>>177036707
The bomb bats honestly do way too much damage.

>>177012768
what's with the manga spider?

>>177057929
It's a joke because the last thread died at page 10 with only 100 posts or so.

>>177036707
>enter the prison depths
>die within 4 seconds because the first room contained 4 invisible arches and an invisible skeleton knight who 100-0'd my health bar

Is there any purpose to actually clearing the prison depths? The only point I've seen to them is to guarantee that your run will end in the 3rd zone.

>>177022393
Reminds me - anyone else dumb enough to kickstart Chasm?

>>177037898
>Combat juice

what a weird term

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i wanna stick my dick inside Marnie

>things that die in the night

>>177064796
Why are her legs half of the normal size?

Been playing Oneshot.
The girl, Niko, is damn adorable.

Not sure I dig the "You only get one chance, [Anon]" part, thought.

>>177067667
Niko's gender isn't actually known. She may actually be a little boy.

>>177068687
She's too cute to be a boy.

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>>177067667
boy

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>>177070493
Funnily enough, the puzzles also remind me of OFF, with that "it's not complicated but you need to mark it down somewhere" feeling.

But please tell me the "only one chance" is bullshit, I'm scared for the cute cat girl. She's adorable.

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>>177067038
literally perfection

>>177071078
I heard the whole "one chance" thing only applied to the original 2014 version and not the Steam version that expanded on the original.

>>177071078
You do only get one chance, but at no point is Niko ever actually going to be in any danger
And there's a good reason for that, which you'll find out later on

Also in the Steam remake closing the game outside of going to bed doesn't kill Niko, like it did in the original, but you get a cheevo for not doing so anyway

>>177071424
Oh, good.

>>177071483
Fuck achievements, that girl is too cute to kill.

>>177071616
While it doesn't kill Niko anymore, Niko does still take notice when you close and reopen the game

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>>177071893
Oh shit.

>>177072204
It also doesn't reset your progress back to the last time Niko went to sleep
When you open up the game, you're back in the exact same spot you were when you closed it, and you get a bit of dialogue from Niko
Whether you want the cheevo or the dialogue is up to you

>>177072461
I don't want to do anything that would hurt the poor, cute catgirl.

The game does a fine job of putting you in command and pressuring you into accepting.
That's why I always pick silly names when asked to put one, so that I don't concerned by what happens.

>>177072591
Personally, I was glad I didn't decide to go that route when I played
I feel like the game had a bit more of an impact on me than it otherwise would have if I hadn't used my real name

>>177072821
I have played for less than 10 minutes but I already care more about Nykos when I cared about the Batter or Ib.

It's a weird feeling, but it's not unpleasant.

>>177073215
Yeah, I feel you
Have fun with the rest of the game, because that's not going to go away

>>177073537
At this rate, I'm going to end up wanting a Nikos plushie so that I can hug her and tickle her little ears.

Next appart I'm moving in better allow animals, I could use some contact that won't argue about stupid shit.

>>177073647
Just be careful not to be going into tulpa territory, friendo

>>177074070
What the fuck is a tulpa? Is it a monster I'll have to fight?

>>177074136
Go check /trash/, that's where the tupper general's ended up

>>177074136
It's someone intentionally making themselves crazy by creating an "imaginary friend" of sorts, except if done "properly" they don't go away and are then just a permanent fixture of your psyche.

>>177074136
No. It's a monster you'll have to fuck

>>177074314
Why the fuck would anyone want that?

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>>177074358
Intense, desperate love of a character.

Good thing I was too lazy to go through with it.

>>177074314
I still have trouble believing that this is actually real. It always seemed like shitposting to me.

>>177074314
I'd like to do that, but I would create a racist, hyperviolent punk.
That might be fun to get into arguments with him.

>>177074358
Profound, desperate loneliness.

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>>177074136
>Is it a monster I'll have to fight?

Well, it can be.

>>177075031
That movie was forever ruined by what I learned recently : http://nypost.com/2015/09/01/day-care-workers-had-young-kids-brawl-in-fight-club-videos/

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HOOOLLLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT THIS GAME
Not even the games finish and they already pull so many strings in my gut.

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anyone else play that OHR game where you have to resuce some guy's girlfriend before he kills himself

>>177078182
What is OHR?

I give up. I'm completely stuck on Oneshot.
I'll spoil in case.
I finally got the Broken Battery using pushing the poor cat near the scary crusher, but the lens seems to be broken and Nykos refuses to remove the broken parts. I don't know if I'm supposed to look for gasmask to explore more or if repairing the battery comes first.

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I lay my home with the buffalo

>>177083353
Keep going to the east in the cliffs area,
you should find another area

>>177083787
Thanks, I missed it for some reason.

>>177083970
np senpai

And now I have a puzzle with a code that is "no longer in this world".

I underestimated that game.

Checked all the files in the game's folder, found nothing but a warning to look for a clover, guess I'll put her to sleep. Sleep tight, kitty.

>>177084797
I love it when she opens her eyes wide.

>>177084908
Look in the my documents folder, all of the files the game gives you will be in there


Also
i bet you'd like to make her eyes go wide open, wouldn't you anon

>>177085263
Already did.
I'm sawy enough to check the game's files, didn't think of checking my documents. Luckily I can ask the computer again, I just get humiliated for that.

A little bit. She's too cute to lewd.

>>177085576
yeah, the game doesn't expect you to look in it's own files
only thing you might find in there is files that you're not supposed to see yet, like that clover thing

>>177085925
And the OST.

"I'm scared of ladders."
She's cute but that fear is gonna be troublesome.

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>>177086490
he

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>>177087250
Gotta say a few things while I look for a bed :
- I don't really like how the quests get more and more complicated (to progress, you need to reactivate the bot, to reactivate the bot, you need to restart the generator, to restart the generator, you need a battery and a lens, to get a battery, you need a iron pipe that you flatten),
- that sheep makes a weird noise and the sheperd is suspicious as fuck.

>>177088954
And two more complains :
- the fact that I can't save anywhere because she "doesn't feel sleepy" or because I can't find a bed,
- the lack of logic in some cases. Like woohoo, I found a birdie scholar who reads a book with a black clover on the cover, just like the book I have that Niko can't read, but for some reason I can't ask him to read it or ask him for informations about his "friend".

>>177090687
Well, like I said, if you close the game and reopen it you won't lose any progress

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>>177090914
But I don't want Niko to look at me with tears in her eyes and accuse me of abandoning her.
She's too cute for that.

Reminds me of another game I played ages ago, Experience 112. Never went far.

>>177091301
I'll have to check that out, seems interesting
Also nothing like that ever happens, Niko isn't aware of any time that passes while the game's closed

>>177091896
It's sometimes written eXperience 112, but I got the name right on my first try, despite playing it ages ago.
I'm good.

I'm getting old, I'm reaching that age when I stop wanting to put my penis in everything that look like a girl and instead want to spoil them.

>a hat in time confirmed Fall 2017 release
f i n a l l y
It just occurred to me that I funded them almost exactly 4 years ago

>>177053440
>why are you even still here
It aint me

>>177092094
Generally I find that I don't really want to do any lewdness with or look at porn of any character that I get the feely-feels for, at least not for a while after I finish the game they're from
So far it's been about a month since I played and I still don't really want to fug Niko

>>177092459
Ain't that because you think she's a boy?
Weird thing is that it happened recently. Last year, I was playing Tera online, and I was only interested in the elins (basically immortal lolis), nowadays they don't do anything to me. I just woke up one morning, and I was already a proto-father.

>>177092628
If anything, I'd probably go for a qt shota catboy more than a qt loli catgirl
But Niko's still a no

>>177092095
Didn't you post this a day or two ago?

So how much of Dead Cells is there after the graveyard? The fact that there wasn't an alternate path from the fog fjord is telling me that I am getting close to the end and that the first three zones are their proof of concept when it comes to multiple paths.

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Send help

>>177095696
Hahahah start praying boy.

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Managed to find a bed, so I can finally go to mine.

The puzzles in Oneshot are more vicious than in OFF, some of the quests feel like fillers, but I like how the quest is the complete opposite of OFF (so far)
>Batter only has one purpose
>Niko talks about her old life

>Batter seek to put an end to a miserable world agonizing
>Niko tries to revive it

>Batter faces an opposition who wants to keep on living no matter the costs
>Niko faces the head engineer who thinks it may be better to disappear once and for all

>Batter describes himself as a sacred man on a holy mission and is rarely considered as such
>Niko is considered the messiah despite not introducing as such

>Batter almost never mentions you when talking with someone else
>Niko always say "we" when talking of her achivements

>Batter never rests, barely shows any emotion
>Niko mentions being sleepy after she walks too much

>Batter only has good relations with two, maybe three people, he ends up killing two of them, or get betrayed and killed by one
>Niko make friends whenever she goes

>Batter get sent to the mines to purify them
>the head engineer goes with you to the mine and tell you to be extra careful and not walk too close to the ledge

>people in OFF are apathetic at best, and in denial at worst
>people in Oneshot are worried about their situation and are trying to survive

>Batter leaves all the puzzles to you and barely acknowledge you
>Niko comments on what you ask her to do and sometimes compliments you on doing stuff she hasn't thought of

>Batter doesn't give a damn about all the places he visit
>Niko is surprised by everything and comments on things

Screw that Offtale bullshit, I want OffShot to happen.

>>177095696
is this the MORE philosophy of game design

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>>177084908
>I love it when she opens her eyes wide.

>>177098808
Fucking adorable.
And she acts surprised constantly.

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>>177032329
the dev and some friends formed a dev team and are rebuilding the game engine in game maker so they can rip off Mario RPG. iirc one of the musicians working on the OST also does music for the series creator of Bubsy.

>>177099072
isn't this the game where they made up some backstory about how after the game franchise died they became trans

>>177099072
>>177099192
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>177098304
Nah, it just looks intense in that screenshot. They both coincidentally used their fire attacks at once which looked cool. The bosses are actually really tightly designed, and in fact each boss can be beaten without getting hit as the developer empathized fair gameplay.

>>177098808
>(s)he sees your dick

>>177096895
Oh, and I forgot.
>Batter meets Japhet, and his act of mercy is to kill him quickly
>Niko meets a dying dryad and leave her sun to comfort her as she's dying.

I didn't appreciate my background changing, I must say.

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>Pathfinder rpg announced

And it's just as generic as I imagined it was going to be. Ah, but at least in the survey I spent an hour going into great detail how much I don't want this game. I did all I could. My conscience is clear.

>>177099072
STUPID STAMPEDE

>>177098304
>>177099309
I actually recorded my last fight, you can see it's pretty fair, I'm just bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgutJ4BSAek

Is Don't Starve a good game? Or is it only fun when it's multiplayer?

>>177104530
It's a good game, but not great. Multiplayer or otherwise

>>177095321
There is a boss right after the graveyard. The game ends after that.

>>177101651
>Chris Avellone

Sold.

>>177105616
Did Chris' involvement make ToN good?

>>177105616
Don't fall for the marketing. Even his comment feels like it was said by a robot, not a real human bean.

>I’m a Paizo fan, and a Pathfinder fan. I like the setting, the art style, the adventure paths, the card game, and the iconic characters. I’ve enjoyed playing Pathfinder with my friends (we used to be part of an Ocean’s-11 style game), and I’ve enjoyed the comics, the world, and the overall setting," said Chris Avellone."I’m excited by the prospect of bringing Pathfinder to the computer RPG world, and hope gamers will enjoy playing in the Pathfinder universe.

That, or someone being blackmailed. Maybe there's an SOS message being hidden in this somewhere.

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The Batter

Man I hate DnD games but I will keep playing those DnD RPGs forever

fuck Shadowrun

Man I hate DnD games but I will keep playing those DnD RPGs forever

fuck Shadowrun

>>177099192
It's more like Bubsy was already trans after the second game and became a hooker some years after 3D

Also them Cool World/Roger Rabbit vibes man

>>177099192
It's more like Bubsy was already trans after the second game and became a hooker some years after 3D

Also them Cool World/Roger Rabbit vibes man

>>177109461
>>177109648
>>177109925
>>177110161
i get it, anon

>>177109461
>>177109648
>>177109925
>>177110161
i get it, anon

Geez stop doubleposting

Geez stop doubleposting

oh i guess the board is broken or something?

>>177110705
Other generals are fine, anon probably made a doublepost on accident and another anon decided to play an epic prank

oh i guess the board is broken or something?

>>177110705
It's someone fucking around for some reason.

>>177110705
Other generals are fine, anon probably made a doublepost on accident and another anon decided to play an epic prank
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>>177110864
You're fucking around for some reason

>>177110813
>>177110864
I'm dumb, I wasn't paying attention to the tab so when I saw my message getting repeated I assumed it was the board fucking up instead of someone repeating the message.

>really want to buy binding of isaac afterbirth because of the new content
>know that most of that content is shit but still want to buy it
end my suffering

>>177113154
Move on to other games man. Don't make the same mistake I did.

>>177113154
There's like 4 other rogue-likes that are better

burp

>want to play Rogue Legacy
>remember the grind
Ehhh, I don't think I can go through that again.

>>177120431
Just go to a next dungeon tier instead and dodge your way through to the checkpoint room with chests

I think slime rancher is a pretty decent game and all but I'd really like some more automation at end game. I spent 90 minutes of almost nothing but running around my farm harvesting food, replanting food, collecting plorts, and corraling quantum slimes.

>>177114279
Literally every roguelike is better.

You guys know some comfy games like oxenfree
and the wild eight?

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>>177114279
>>177127494
>boi
>roguelike
[autistic screeching]

>>177099192
>how after the game franchise died they became trans
Not quite. The plot point of her coming out and the franshise dying were 2 individual plotlines. The franshise died because it got meh to shit games.

>>177129903
>her

>>177129848
It's not. That's why literally every actual roguelike is better.

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>>177113154
>Someone on /v/ makes one of those 'last game you played wipes all save data how fucked are you' threads
>Realise I'd feel like a fucking PoW getting released if that happened
I've already got 92% achievements, the only ones left are 'do X with Y character' and some 100% ones.

>>177130089
Yep

>>177131476
Can't you free yourself if you're self-aware about it?
I avoid loops like that by thinking, like, "this isn't fun. I'm not enjoying this. I have other things I'd rather be doing. So. I will stop doing this". And that's that.

>>177131839
I do enjoy playing the game to a certain degree, since I've played it so much I recognise which runs are just going to crash and burn and quit them before it gets there. I only keep going with useless ones if the item combination is hilarious, or I'm doing a daily.
I'm just annoyed at the possibilities the game could have fulfilled, and at Edmund for being such a dickhead about all the people who point this out to him.

I'm uninstalling it once I 100%, or Steam wipes my save data for no reason (which is always a possibility) and never playing a Steakmund game again.

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>in this area, traps cast shadows and the shadows cause damage
This is a pretty awesome mechanic (hard as shit with thwomps though, their shadows SWING across the map)

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>>177133795
That is so looney tunes.

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Anyone been keeping up with Transcendence? I think the last time I played was Version 1.3.

>>177136760
What's that game and why should I care?

>>177136884
It's a hybrid of a Roguelike and Star Control - a top-down 2D space exploration game. Start in a dead-end system with a rinky-dink ship, loot, salvage, and trade your way through the galaxy one Jump-gate at a time in a quest for the galactic code.

>>177138271
Reminds me of Space Rangers, except that Space Rangers included RTS sequences.
I sucked at it.

>>177138534
Yeah, the closest thing to RTS sequences in Transcendence are wingmen, and at most you'll have two or three at a time. If you're good at keeping them alive, that is.

>>177139025
Reminds me of Windward. Except in space, and it sounds a little better.

>>177140483
I'd never heard of Windward, but it looks like that might be an accurate comparison, and I think I'm going to have to give Windward a try now.

>>177140797
Windward is annoying because it's a bit grindy. It's the kind of game that can't be fun is you're alone.

>>177132067
>I do enjoy playing the game to a certain degree, since I've played it so much I recognise which runs are just going to crash and burn and quit them before it gets there.
I stopped enjoying & playing the game at this point, because it turned into a glorified slot machine for me

Is Agarest secretly a good game or has /jrpg/ lied to me?

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/deviant-bundle
How was deadly premonition?

>>177143897
Seems like something for specific tastes with the vn+strategy mix.

>>177143897
It's boring. Go ask /nepgen/, they'll confirm what I said.

>>177143897
Agarest is literally sleep inducing.

>>177144412
>nepgen
Might as well ask your used underwear.

>>177144673
>i don't agree with these guys therefore they're wrong
So you just want an echo chamber to constantly compliment your shit taste in games, okay.
Wrong place, buddy.

>>177144812
Nep fags are the echo chamber of bad writing and stale memes.

>>177145006
>i don't agree with these guys therefore they're wrong
So you just want an echo chamber to constantly compliment your shit taste in games and never, never disagree with you, okay.
Wrong place, buddy.

>>177136760
>>177138271
Sounds like this could be fun; gonna give it a try.

why did this general turn into deja vu

>>177131476
>the last game i played was an mmo
that'd be fucking beautiful

>>177131476
>last game I played was nu-Doom
Eh, that'd be fine, I guess.

>guy on Underrail forum is STILL trying to edit his save file instead of just playing the goddamn game

I just fucking can't. This is too much.

Immortal Redneck is a much better shooter than Ziggurat. Its really a coffeebreak type game. If you try to play it in 30minute+ sessions with the goal of actually reaching the top you'll be burnt out and hate the game for its grindiness

>>177149445
>the other guy who is trying to make profit from buying components and crafting items out of them to sell

>while he would make much more profit with far less effort just selling whatever he finds until merchants don't want to buy anything anymore, not to mention he's actually limiting the amount of money he can earn by buying components
It's comedy gold lately. At least the pistol vs. smg discussion is somewhat constructive with valid points.

>>177144262
Apparently the PC port is horrible.

>>177152792
It's beyond horrible. I remember seeing a big infograph of what's wrong, why it's wrong and how to fix it if it's even within your power.

>>177154286
Do you remember the source of the infographic? I'm morbidly curious.

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>>177156229
Holy shit I managed to find it in the archives.

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Instatly regret my decision the post.

>>177160096
You'll be fine; just don't get hooked.

So that one door in the graveyard in Dead Cells.

Has anyone found a way to open it?

>>177160829
It's either a new zone or contains the broadsword that everyone goes apeshit on the steam forums.

MHU SEED

>>177157248
Welp, that looks like a mess.

I'm missing the hook,the whip,the spear and the flame torrent spells/weapons on dead cell's.

Are any of those worth ?

>>177162356
I don't like the whip unless I also have a freeze and I am fighting larger enemies. The zone of the whip's hitbox that causes a crit is very small and it is so much slower than just going full retard with a rapier or dual daggers.

The spear is also kind of slow, but it actually hits pretty hard and mows through groups.

Never used flame torrent or hook.

I think i'll start a survival run of subnautica, freedom is good but I don't really know what else to do and survival but probably force to get food/water outputs

>>177167275
The batteries always run out way too quickly for me. It feels like I'm constantly having to find copper and acid mushrooms.

>>177169105
A battery recharger is something you find fairly early on, I never really had any problems even before that though.
Copper is a MASSIVE bottleneck before you get the scanner room though, yea.

Anyway the mode I was doing had batteries and energy and health and shit it just didn't have hunger/thirst.

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wew, just cleared the new floor. I was wondering how a park was going to be more hazardous than the industrial level, but between the cannibals, random military bases and slippery ice everywhere I think he pulled it off.

>>177172231
oh the new level came out?

>>177149445
Tell him to keep fighting the good fight

>>177145092
How could people you don't agree with be right? If you know they're wrong they literally can't be right.

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So what is this sword and where can I find the blueprints for it?

>>177175984
looks cool, what game?

>>177179816
I think that's dead cells? Not sure.

In Underrail, how many points do I need in agility/stealth to be able to sneak up on any enemy? I don't wanna do any fancy enemy evasion or going back to stealth during combat, I just want enough so I can get close enough to get the first shot with my psi magic and then kite them

>>177179917
Fucking early access games. I hate being hyped for a free beta test.

Devolver is having a Steam sale

>>177182920
Actually, do I even need points in AGI? All I wanna do is
>spot enemy
>activate stealth
>cast magic on enemy without them getting the initiative

>>177182920
>In Underrail, how many points do I need in agility/stealth to be able to sneak up on any enemy?

The simple answer is ~150 by endgame.

The longer answer is whatever gets you to effective 150 by endgame. It can be a combination of high AGI and moderate skill investment, low AGI and high skill investment, or even no investment in either as long as you have a substitute. With high investment in Tailoring you can create gear with high Stealth bonus, and can temporarily increase it further with Electronics and a Cloaking Device. However this means you will have to sacrifice other bonuses you could have got from your armor, since going 0 stealth will mean you are basically forced to use Ninja tabi boots instead of one of the infused leather ones. Or you could go for a combination of all of these. Have some AGI, invest some points in stealth, and supplement it with Tailoring, but only with armor and balaclava, not with tabis.

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I'm really tempted to pick up the gungeon
I've played BoI for quite some time (maybe 300 hours total across different versions) but ultimately grew to hate the game and definitely do not want more of the same
How do these games compare? Mainly, how's your damage progression in comparison to enemy HP, does it rely on RNG much?

>>177183137
In most cases if you want to get the initiative, you don't "activate" stealth, you don't ever leave it in hostile areas until you initiate combat. Most of the time if an enemy is within your field of vision, you are in theirs too. Not always, but it's a good rule of thumb to follow.

>>177131476
unless you count shitty mobile games, the last game I played is something I already lost all save data for....twice? Many times?

I wouldn't take it too hard.

>>177184568
Be that as it may, I can't even get close enough to a rathound now without being spotted immediately
>>177184285
ANd that 150 number also goes if I really don't wanna stealth past enemies? To reiterate, all I wanna do is get within 10 tiles or whatever and shoot them with pew pew magic

>>177184285
And I probably should add that if you don't want to do anything truly fancy, and don't expect to be able to stealth absolutely everything, effective ~100 is enough for most enemies sans sniper and stealthy kinds.

>>177184506
Gungeon is much more skill based and while RNG is a bitch you won't be cursing it nearly as much as you do in Isaac. Unless you're Robot, but even then if you've unlocked him you should be on the path to gittin gud no matter how shitty some guns can be. There's only maybe a handful of unlocks that make you go 'why' as opposed to the truckload of bullshit Isaac has.

>>177184506
what >>177184983 said

there's some bad game design decisions, but it's better than isaac

>>177184839
How much stealth do you have right now? The magic line for Rathounds is 10. Your stealth is 10 or under, it will automatically fail. 11 and higher will work, obviously the higher it is, the longer it will take them to spot you.

This is the way it works for all enemies and for you as well. If you open your combat stats under Defense you will find your "Detection", this is the threshold that is checked against an enemy's stealth skill.

>>177185804
I have 0 stealth, I abandoned another character that was more agi-focused because I realized I didn't want to actually do any fancy stealth shit
All I wanted to know is how much stealth I need to get the initiative in combat, basically

IT'S THE

>>177185938
Well, like I said it varies, and how you reach this number is up to you. Different enemies have different detection. Effective 150 is a safe number and will work against almost everything. Effective 100 is fairly safe, and will work against most things, but not all. But there are other things muddying it up, like how well-lit the place is, or whether you are standing in front of or behind the enemy.

>>177186010
NUTSHACK

>>177186010
Eye of the tiger?

>>177186010
DEAD BODY LOOTIN

>>177187571
MUTANT SHOOTIN

>>177184285
>~150 by endgame
That's overkill if you just want to sneak past enemies. All you need is to get past the threshold of instant detection. Slightly above 100 effective skill is entirely sufficient for that.

>>177182938
so far it's been the only early access game I've paid for, and I haven't regretted it, honestly.

I've gotten enough time (*enjoyable* time, even) out of it that I feel my money was well spent. Mostly I'm hoping my enjoyment doesn't wane before there's new content, since I just like the feel of playing the game.

>>177187874
I don't have a list of detection thresholds, nor do I know who has the highest detection in the game, but slightly above 100 does not cut it in every case. I know of snipers with a threshold of 120, and there might be ones with higher. I think the cut off point is somewhere between 125 and 150, hence why I say 150 is the safe number, and 100 is mostly sufficient.

>>177190107
>I know of snipers with a threshold of 120, and there might be ones with higher.
I know some of the praetorian officers at their headquarters have crazy high detection. Snipers too due to high PER, but they are pretty rare so 100 is enough in most cases.

150 can be actually hard to achieve with low/moderate AGI and moderate armor penalty.

>>177191954
Not that hard. Armor and tabis made from 100+ quality black cloth and similarly high quality soft padding can get you to somewhere between 85-100, and with a balaclava and Clothier you can get around 110~120. Which is where the Cloaking Device comes in. A better one can get you over 60 stealth. The one you can get from Drop Zone without crafting is think random, but it never gave me less than 20. Even that should be enough to cover the difference for the few high PER encounters, unless they really go higher than 120 in which case you'll likely need a crafted one.

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Got RPG maker. Where do I start with making a LISA fangame? I have zero experience but I think it would be fun to work on in my free time.