/sthg/ Sonic the Hedgehog General

>>176297794
I removed the Archie to send email part because it's past April.

Better thread with no gayness. Thanks
Anyone tried that new Shiness game? Apparently its alot like Skies of Arcadia

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https://youtu.be/yIOGU00044w
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>>176298058
>Balenaproductions

>>176298143
Don't start.

So why did Sonic Team feel the need to create a new character for Forces instead of using one of the established characters? Especially since the other characters already have fans that would love the chance to play as them again?

>>176297974
It's good but the combat can be a bit back and forth.

>>176298256
Maybe it's another Chip situation. He is probably connected to why Eggman conquered most of the world.

>>176298256
If they use an existing character and the gameplay turns out shit then the character's reputation will tank

>>176298256
God forbid they introduce anything new to the franchise without asking their schizophrenic fans for permission first.

>>176298490
But they already have so many characters they refuse to use.

>>176297974
Yeah but honestly I'd like it if the combat were a bit slower and the regular specials worked from hit confirming rather than mashing the 3 or so buttons in quick succession.

>>176298530
Too bad, faggot. If they fit the part then they aren't used.

https://youtu.be/rpalKeWBrBY
BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREA BREA BREA BREA BREAKFAST TIME

>>176297794
What would the sonic characters arcanas be?

>>176298896
*If they don't fit the part

Now then, now that the comics are gone, I move that all discussion regarding them be moved to /co/ or /trash/ they no longer have a place here.

>>176299780
I move that you remove the cock from your mouth, but that's just as unlikely as your proposal.

>>176299780
>Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks speedrunning, and more!

>>176299879
I guess we gotta remove the comics part from the OP now.

To be fair we never have real comic discussion anyway. Every time a discussion starts it's cut off with REEE COMICSFAGS or (insert billionth valid argument on why the Freedom Fighters shouldn't exist)

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>>176299973
>To be fair
No need to hold back.

>>176299973
When was the last time we had a civil discussion about ANYTHING before it was derailed by shitposting, let alone the comics? Closest I can remember is the museum fanlevel.

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>>176300093
How come Sonic the Comics aren't instead discussed in /co/?

I mean isn't this usually a General for Sonic games or am I just too single minded focused on that since I never gave Archie a single cent?

>>176299780
Nah.

>>176299973
Comic discussion wouldn't be a problem if it didn't consist of heavy waifufaggotry and saying it's better than every other continuity.

>>176300270
This general was created to continue discussion following a marathon of comics on /v/. Not /co/, /v/. This general has always been comics-based and it's only newfags like you who don't realize it.

>>176300364
That kinda proves his point of why it can't go to /co/. I myself would like to discuss Sonic the FRANCHISE as a whole, not one of it's niche brands.

>>176300532
You know it's not mutually exclusive right? Discuss the games or the cartoons or whatever else you want.

>>176300532
>I myself would like to discuss Sonic the FRANCHISE as a whole
Then do it, cunt.

>>176300682
Rude ass.

>>176298376
If they use a new character and the gameplay turns out shit then the franchise's reputation will tank.

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>>176300364
>implying I am a newfag
Welcome Home honey~

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Wheres my Sonic /mu/ Bros at?
https://youtu.be/ExUtW369jok

>>176300935
https://youtu.be/9JgKvrZjZqE
Dooo doo do do du doo doo dooo~

>>176298337
This probably.
https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/861565031997202433

>>176302153
>I want you to give him attention not only as a character or a game[style]
>him

So much for making waifus.

>>176302507
They haven't made a mainline female since Blaze, you were foolish for even expecting that. I'm really fucking hoping this guy isn't a cat or that he has abilities somebody in the reject pile already has

>>176302507
Oh god is it Iizuka's self insert?

>>176302652
What if the new character is blaze's brother?

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>>176302652
>I'm really fucking hoping this guy isn't a cat or that he has abilities somebody in the reject pile already has
Really wondering what abilities they could give him that would be at least interesting.

>>176302731
Nope, he'll either begon after this game like chip and tikal and gemerl or he'll be on par with sonic,shadow and silver. I'll be surprised if they don't have him be a hedgehog.

>>176302913
He'll have the ability to cheer on the Sonics while they do everything.

>tfw the golden age of sonic has long since passed

I'm really hoping this character is a one-off thing. They had the chance to do that with Shadow and it would've made his death so impactful, but they cheapened it by having him return in other games with some half assed excuse about how he survived. Like another anon said, the way they did it with Chip would be ideal. I don't know about you guys but I was sad as fuck when he sacrificed himself.

>Unleashed will have it's 10th anniversary next year
Jesus, where does the time go? I still remember the hype i felt watching the trailer as a 10 year old and spending a couple hours drawing fanart of the werehog. I even took the time to mail it to SEGA of America (which is kinda dumb in retrospect considering I live on the other side of the country) and they sent a letter back a month later along with a copy of issue #175 in the hopes that it would inspire me to keep drawing. Probably my coolest childhood memory.

>>176304249
That's actually pretty hilarious if you think about it.

>"Oh cool, this guy really like Sonic."
>"Let's mail him a comic where Sonic gets his ass kicked, his home burns down, and all of his friends get vaporized."

>>176303930
>I don't know about you guys but I was sad as fuck when he sacrificed himself.

But Chip didn't die. He and Dark Gaia are sleeping. They just wake up once every tens of thousands of years. So they're kinda treated as being dead because we'll probably never see them again outside mobile game cameos like Runners.

Being a Silverfag is fucking suffering.
>Tfw he will only appear in spinoff games
>The he will never be story relevant again

>>176303930
Character deaths, unless they're in backstory like Maria, never work out in a series like Sonic. If the death has meaning then it means the character is popular enough that there's incentive for the company to bring them back. If they're not popular enough then the death is meaningless. Funny enough, the only way they can get around that is through create-a-character, because then the character has no canon appearance or personality to bring back.

>>176304249
>Send fanart to Sega
>Get free copy of LIMIT!
>Kinda dumb in retrospect
What logic are you running on?

>>176303930
Only reason Shadow came back is because people actually liked him, unlike Chip.

>>176304649
I meant the fact that I mailed it was dumb. It would've been a lot easier if I just emailed it. They didn't respond for a while month and I was bummed out because I thought they didn't get it

>>176304549
Hey, he shares the same fate as the majority of characters in the games.

>Woah! That must be the Lost Hex! Legends say that every thousand or so years, pieces fall off and land on our world, creating new masses of land and landmarks! But no one has ever seen it before!

>>176304549
I wanna see Shade again, how do you think I feel? It almost feels like SEGA is intentionally ignoring most of its characters. And most of its IPs as well.

>>176304629
>If the death has meaning then it means the character is popular enough that there's incentive for the company to bring them back.
I'm pretty sure a huge part of Shadow's popularity was BECAUSE he had a meaningful death, not the other way around.
>Funny enough, the only way they can get around that is through create-a-character, because then the character has no canon appearance or personality to bring back.
Remind me again why everyone keeps pushing the create-a-character idea when they pretty much confirmed that it's not?

>>176298337
>He is probably connected to why Eggman conquered most of the world.
The question is why did they write the plot in such a way that there is a completely new playable character. By this time they should have learnt that you have to ask fans for permission before pulling such shit.

>>176304990
If everything in SA2 happened the exact same, only after beating Final Hazard both Sonic and Shadow go back to the Ark and Shadow talks about how he remembered Maria's wishes and will now fight to give humanity a chance, he'd be just as popular.

And I'm not saying it'll be a create-a-character, just saying that they could get around the issues with character deaths that way. I don't think the new character will die either.

>>176304958
>I wanna see Shade again, how do you think I feel? It almost feels like SEGA is intentionally ignoring most of its characters. And most of its IPs as well.

The difference between us is that Silver starred in a main-series game and there's no legal bullshit holding them back from using him, unlike with Shade. And with Forces being a story that involves time travel, there's even more reason to bring him back as opposed to using a whole new character.

The new character is post-modern Sonic. Also, every game from now on will have his as the protagonist, the Sonic you have now will be history, along with classic Sonic.

>>176305414
>Forces
>involving time travel

Actually Classic is from a whole other universe now.

>>176304549
And no one will care.

>>176305687
I'm pretty sure that's just a marketing gimmick for kids who haven't heard of Classic Sonic before.

>>176305687
>Actually Classic is from a whole other universe now.

Since when? Generations established Classic Sonic is a younger Modern Sonic from the past.

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I want the stupid chinks to leave this franchise alone.

>don't care about classic sonic at all
>get to hear and see cute little Tails again.

He was just so cute in generations

>>176305873
>implying generations is canon

>>176305873
Only old people have played generations now.

>>176306018
>canon
>implying implications

>>176306018
It's canon to forces at least, considering the fact that this game is generations 2 in everything but name

>>176306018
Assuming this isn't bait. Why wouldn't it be? And who said Classic Sonic was from another universe?

>>176306285
Generations was a spin-off.

That guy is retarded anyway tho.

>>176306372
I thought Generations was considered to be a "main-series" game. This is the first time I'm hearing it called a spin-off.

Again, this could be marketing. After all, it's been a while since Generations, and most kids by now have got into the franchise by either Lost World or Boom. Calling him an AU Sonic makes sense for kids who haven't heard of the classic games.

>>176304745
They wouldn't have sent you the comic if it was emailed. Having a letter personally sent to you from their headquarters is a lot cooler than a sentence long reply to an email.

>>176306595
It's only been 5-6 years since generations. And all games since have been Nintendo exclusive. Chill the fuck down m8.

>>176304549
Well he is in Forces, so there's something I guess

>>176306650
>And all games since have been Nintendo exclusive.

That's the biggest problem, no kid wants to play on an Nintendo system. So only manchildren have played those games.

>>176306785
Source?

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>>176306785
So...If we agree on that, why do you think most kids by now have gotten into the franchise by either Lost World or Generations?

>>176306527
I think Forces will feel more like a mainline title in that unlike Generations the theme isn't "100% nostalgia trip" this time, and the game presumably takes place in Sonic's world rather than a random white void.

>>176306881
Never said I agreed.

>>176306881
Lost world or Boom*

Fuck.

>>176306847
Whoops, meant to reply to
>>176306662

>>176306992
https://twitter.com/babylonian/status/852298423931854848

>>176306902
>unlike Generations the theme isn't "100% nostalgia trip" this time

Don't kid yourself, that first zone we saw Modern Sonic go through will be the only "original" zone. Not counting levels where all you do is fight a boss.

>>176306595
>>176306650
>>176306785
>>176306881
>>176306960
>Thinking any new kids have gotten into this series
>Especially Boom of all things
>Implying the fanbase isn't made up of mostly people who grew up with Sonic

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Maybe Sonic's buddies will work as 'mentors' for your Oc's by completing their missions and getting their gear as an award.

Like Xenoverse

>>176306960
We agree that kids don't play Nintendo systems.

I add to that, the fact that 5 years isn't enough for an entire generation of kids to completely forget about Generations, especially when it's the last multi-platform release.

>>176307174
If anything we're in a Melee situation where we have more new people shitposting about Sonic than playing Sonic games, thanks to meme-man and his meme-squad of ebin youtube e-celebs

>>176307271
>We agree that kids don't play Nintendo systems.
......What?

>>176307350
>>176306785
>That's the biggest problem, no kid wants to play on an Nintendo system. So only manchildren have played those games.

>>176307271
>>176307271
Have you ever read YouTube comments?

Plenty of little kids think NINTENDO SHOULD BUY SANIC LOL

>>176307350
They don't. My little 7 year old cousin owns a PS4, my step-sister plays PC, and my step-brother owns multiple Xbox consoles. Nintendo is mostly just for sentimental neckbeards.

>>176307350
He's pulling things out of his ass.

>>176307350
not him but kids these days only care about being hip, pew die pie, and minecraft

>>176307504
They might express themselves like brain-damaged 10 year olds, but a lot of them are actually college students or older.

>>176307579
>>176307581
Nintendo is probably the only decent console manufacturer left, but >>176307589 is spot-on.

>>176307504
years ago I thought that might be a good myself and one of the classic-fags.

This was in the mid 00's when sega's treatment of it's mascot of akin to abuse. It would be bad idea now, Nintendo wouldn't give a fuck about sonic if they owned it. we would get one game per console generation if we we lucky. Not to mention I think they wouldn't get sonic and make more games like Lost World.

something I do wonder about though is the amount of money/clout Nintendo has. imagine how well Sonic's reputation would be if the games weren't rushed or mismanaged. Mario and Zelda benefit from being a first party developer.

>>176308431
*years ago I thought that might be a good idea myself and I'm one of the classic-fags.

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Any requests?

>>176308749
Knuckles trying not to chuckle.

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>>176308749
This with Amy and Honey

>>176308749
Clove dressed as Velvet from Tales of Berseria

Why do Adventure fans enjoy bullying Modern fans?

>>176308749
Rotor and Tails nerf gun fight

>>176309296
Older brother-younger brother relationship

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>>176308823

>>176308749
Vanilla reacting to seeing goatse for the first time.

>>176309296
>bullying modern
I thought adventure was modern? or is modern everything post wii generation?

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>>176309619
Oh shit

>>176309818
Modern started with Unleashed. How different the gameplay is and how the fanbase is divided, the Adventure fans are a different sect.

>>176308749
Tails asking Sonic where Aunt Sally went

>>176309917
i thought modern was anything post 06? after all, games like secret rings don't seem to fit into the adventure group

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>>176309619
Now this is podracing

>>176307204
>Tails teaches you how to fly
>Knuckles teaches you how to climb walls
>Amy gives you a hammer
>Shadow gives you chaos powers
Could be neat.

>>176310295

Nigga that'd make you the most OP mary-sue character ever

Do I count as classicfag if my first experiences with Sonic were classic games played in early 00s on Gens emulator? Never had a console from 4th generation actually. Or from 5th. And my 6th generation console is Dreamcast bought in 2006.

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>>176310295
>>176307204
I have a perfect design for this character.

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>>176309296
This.
-One playable character
-slippery controls
-no chao garden

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>>176308979

>>176310554
You can only have two abilities enabled at once. This prevents your character from being broken but allows you to make fun combos by mixing and matching different abilities. (Think Sonic Advance 3)

So apparently people are complaining about sonic forces already. What's the problem?

>>176311458
Everything Classic Sonic

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>>176311458
Vlassic Sonic

>>176308749
Eggman smiling behind an Archie Comics desk.
>"You won't have to worry about that rodent problem anymore!"

>>176311458
It looks like a worse version of game they bought in 2011.

>>176311614
He did stir up quite a pickle.

>>176310738
You are a fag of whatever games you prefer.

>>176311178
>a franchise that originally defined itself based on properly retaining momentum shouldn't have controls and physics that retain momentum

>>176311458
For Adventure fags, Boost.
For Modern fags, Classic.
That and the majority of it is just bitching/making half assed assumptions about a game that we barely know anyhting about. Or in /sthg/'s case, shitposting because the thread isn't moving fast enough.

>>176311980
Why not Both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgk8gJc6g

>>176312452
For Classic fag, Classic. What we've seen of Classic Forces so far looks like early 00s cereal box game trash compared to Mania.

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>>176312615
>Utopia shitposting
>not even the webm

>>176310183
Generations did put 06 in the modern era, but that was fairly arbitrary. 06 plays a lot more like the Adventure games than even Heroes does, and it shares more with those games' stories than it does with the Unleashed an later games.

>>176304958

Shade not being around has less to do with Sega ignoring her, and more to do with the whole legal bullshit that Ken Penders started when he accused them of ripping off his story elements from the comic (whole civilization of echidnas that live in other dimension, plus one female who's hinted as future love interest for Knuckles).

>>176312686
I know I'm gonna get shit for this but I don't really care how classic sonic is gonna play, I just want that sweet 3D boost gameplay.

>>176312615
Utopia is NOTHING LIKE MODERN SONIC

Anyone up for some sonic vidya?

https://www.juicebox.dj/videogames

>>176299973
What happen to the comics anyway?

>>176315083
Put on indefinite hiatus, but recent leaks and changes to creators' social media accounts indicate that the Archie comics are cancelled.

>>176315517
Brutal, sucks the comic industry has been on a downward spiral.

>>176315831
You'd think the amount of money they're blowing on the comic films and "Nerd Culture" would make all the comics sell a bit more.

Unpopular opinions
Superhero Comics in general had their spotlight and are now being made by people who just want to spool money out of it by giving it to whichever new writer comes in with whatever awful story they want to push.
They expect you to read almost fucking everything and the people who read comics will guffaw when you missed a panel from Wonder Woman's adopted red head stepdaughter's sister's brothers boy Issue 5 about an offhand comment about Batman.
But that retardation is only rivalled by the popular nerd culture who overhype awfully written films.

Guardians 1 + 2 don't count they're fucking incredible.

>>176317150

Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2 and Deadpool are the only good capeshit movies because they perfectly capture the sillyness of the comic book medium.

>>176314150
>Shade is hinted as future love interest for Knuckles
But he has Tikal. By the way, whe are we seing her again?

>>176315517
How did the story end?

>>176320031
Tikal isn't a love interest, and never.

>>176320031
You'll keep getting omochao and you'll like it.

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>>176320031
A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS!

>>176318112
I can agree to that.
I'm incredibly sad Guardians and Avengers will meet up, I can't stand everything being the Tony Stark show.

I want a sonic girl to snuggle with.

>>176316884
Would you accept an Amy kiss, /sthg/?

>>176322698
Nah

>>176320943
>black housemaid
Is this real?

>>176322968
Yup, its from the sonic x comic.

>>176323353
The characters are from Sonic X but the comic posted is a fan comic.

>>176322968
I thought she was hispanic?

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>>176320149
Chronologically, it ended with Sonic and Chip fixing the world and stopping Eggman and Dark Gaia, concluding the Shattered World Crisis Saga. The Sky Patrol is still in the ocean though (and Nicole doesn't have a handheld anymore) but I guess that was supposed to be sorted out later.

The last few issues were part of Genesis of a Hero, which were some anniversary stories based on Sonic 1, Sonic 2, and Sonic CD. After that there was going to be one for Sonic 3, followed by some issues about Mighty, Antoine, and Bunnie, among others.

>>176322698
Without hesitation!

Why do you like Sonic?

>>176322698
Gross, no.

>>176324971
He fast

Hey guys its me Ian Flynn and I love lasagna!

>>176325724
Get outta here, faker.

>>176324971
He's blue

Should Amy just give up on Sonic? I personally don't want her to but what's the point if she can never get with him. I guess she's supposed to be determined but ultimately all I see heartbreak coming her way.

>>176325831
It's fucking Goku Day, you cunt.

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>>176326103
Not on my watch.

>>176325801
Faker? I think you're the fake Ian Flynn around here. You don't even love lasagna

>>176326059
I'm surprised she never baked him chili dogs.

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>>176325831
>>176326172

>>176326103
Nope. Just have their interactions be more like the comic.

>>176326408
Does Amy even know how to cook?

>>176326059
She'll give up on him for sure when he loses to Eggman in Forces!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuF0U8FSiw

>>176323669
You can be both...

>>176326545
I wouldn't be surprised if everyone gives up on Sonic in Forces and they only accept him again at the end of the game after he proves that he's still a hero by beating Eggman again

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>>176311290
Excellent.

>>176309619
Let it out, Chuckles

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A shame about the comic. But hey, at least we've got this to look forward to, right?

I don't give a fuck what any of you say. You're going to miss the comic once this shitshow of a "novel" eventually gets published.

>>176327563
Given that there's apparently radio chatter in the city level, what would it take for Sonic's friends to lose faith in him asides from just not being there to save the day?

>>176328631
That's all it'd really take. They like him because he's a hero. If he fails to stop Eggman, that doesn't make him a good hero, does it?

>>176328621
That's never going to come out.

>>176328723
Poor Sonic's going to find himself all alone like in Lost World again.

>>176328621

Wait, I missed it. Has there been an announcement yet?

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>>176328621
>You're going to miss the comic once this shitshow of a "novel" eventually gets published.
I think it is more likely that people will shit on the comics even more by equating them to this.

>From the writer of the Archie Sonic comics...
>I can't believe comic fans actually like this shit
>This is what happens when you let OCs take over
I can see it already.

>>176329049

>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/09/archie-comics-still-not-talking-about-cancellation-of-sonic-the-hedgehog/

>UPDATE: Hang about! No sooner had we published than an Archie Comics spokesperson told us “We are aware of the questions regarding Sonic. Archie and SEGA are in communication and we hope to have some news soon. We thank the fans for their patience.”

Published 6 hours ago.

>>176320031
She's dead anon

>>176328621
Fuck that possessive leech.

>>176328621
SWEET NEPTUNE SHE'S NAKED!

>>176328723
I don't see them doing a better job.

>>176328980
>story will be like Lost World
>ohno.iso

>>176329535
>I don't see them doing a better job.
That's not the point. The point is, at least to them, Sonic should've been able to stop him, but he didn't

>>176302932
>a new hedgehog

Doubt it. They'd fucking be plastering him over every possible piece of merchandise there is, not waiting for a reveal. Fuck, he would have been revealed at the sonic party just so they could build him up.

>>176330354
Wouldn't those be somewhat smart decisions? Sega isn't too fond of those.

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>>176330647
If there's one thing Sega can do right, it's marketing.

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>>176328621
W-hat is this Mickey Mouse shit?

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Reminder that the deer sisters were saved from otherwise-inevitable tragedy by the cancellation of the comic.

I like some of the ideas from the Sonic OVA. Sonic's World should have a sky world too and that's where the mobians come from.

>>176332191
sonegg the eggnog

>>176332359
3rd character revealed?

>>176332275
It does have a sky world, it's called the Lost Hex.

>>176333127
But that's a entire planet and nobody cares about Lost World.

What was the general reception of Heroes when it first came out? Genuinely curious

>>176333528
"Meh"

>>176333354
Angel Island.

>>176333948
Just one island.

>>176333528
As a PC player, I was euphoric.

>>176332089

B-but...my pronghorn sufferinggggggggg

>>176334295
>>176332089
The real suffering is that they will never get their happy ending.

>>176329230
It's still fucking nothing.

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>>176334061
>Implying

https://youtu.be/MDZf5nvr66w
Lost World's Japanese script is much more tolerable than ours.

>>176334958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgW-FP8ResA
So is Colors'

>>176334958
I hope Forces gives us an option to switch to Japanese voices once again, Kanemaru is infinitely less grating than any English VA for Sonic.

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>>176332191

>>176335392
I am going to riot if they don't.

>>176335392
>I hope Forces gives us an option to switch to Japanese voices once again
Why wouldn't they?

>>176335424
Would he be a better villain than Eggman?

>>176335392
Kanemaru is good, but Ryan Drummond was great as well

>>176335645
He would have already conquered the world. Faster than the speed of sound.

>>176335392
They always have for the past decade or so. We should be fine.

IIRC, did Lost World have 5 language optiins like Gens did?

>>176335736
I feel those two basically nailed the laid-back aspect of Sonic's personality, if only because they sound so alike.

>>176302385
Someone edit this to relate to the comics

>>176335832
Eggman's just not that good.

>>176335980
I played it last night, and yes it does have those options for voice and text.

>>176335980
>>176336154
Hold on, what? I played it on PC and there wasn't.

>>176336019
Nah, Drummond was too try-hard, like he was reading for a toy commercial or something.

Is it wrong that I want to marry Sally?

After reading the link on the comic situation, did Archie claim these same things with Penders? Their defense makes a lot of sense, like the passage of time for example. I don't remember hearing any of that in the Penders case. If that made no difference then, then why would it now?

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>>176329230
>said as all of the creatives on the comic are scrubbing their association with Archie
Lying out both sides of their damn mouth.

>>176336253
I have the PAL version on Wii U. It definitely has options for 6 different languages for both voice and text, including English and Japanese. i double checked just now for you

>>176334295
>>176334395
Well, you could always make an unofficial continuation, like what the British did for the Fleetway comic, and what's been happening for the pre-reboot Archie continuity since the reboot.

But then you'd have to collectively choose whether to have pronghorn suffering or pronghorn happiness.

>>176336276
Fuck off, Drummond was literally perfect in Heroes

>>176336695
>what the british did for Fleetway
say what?

>>176336905
Don't start.

>>176336916
Yes, there's a fanmade continuation of the Fleetway Sonic comic.

>>176336905
He has the voice, but the acting was far too hammy.

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>>176337045
What happened to /fast/?
Also, it'd be nice to make banners for them if they weren't so dead and the site wasn't so awful.

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>it's been 7 years already since the switch to the current cast
Man, that first reaction to Roger only felt like the other day.

>>176336276
Roger also had the same problem with those voice clips he did for that Sonic themed hotel room all those years ago. He's come a long way since then. Even Colours sounds noticeably different to what he is now.

>>176337402
/fast/ is still around but it's just dead.

>>176337504
It really doesn't feel like he's been around that long.

Actually, is he the longest tenured English VA for Sonic?

>>176336695

Why would I want to vomit all over the mona lisa?

how did those megadrive comics do? did they do well in terms of sales?

Kanemaru is only good now because unlike any of the English cast he's had almost 20 years of experience doing the role. He was just as cringy in the Adventure games to anyone who understands Japanese. And now he's 54 so he falls under the same thing that people criticize Roger for which is being too old to voice Sonic. Like I said, he's gotten the voice down since he's had all that experience, but people don't seem to understand how much of a difference experience and good voice direction can make on voice acting.

>>176337684

>I live my life quarter chili dog at a time

>>176333528
It got rave reviews as the best 3D Sonic yet. Yet for some reason everyone hates in retrospect now.

>>176337650
Ryan Drummond went from 1998-2005
Jason Griffith was 2006-2010

>>176337704
The first issue did huge sales, but after that, it was no different from the other comics.

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>>176336695
God no! I don't want the notorious fanartists to be anywhere near a Archie Sonic continuation!

>>176337650
>Jaleel White: 1993-1999, six years
>Ryan Drummond: 1999-2004, five years
>Jason Griffith: 2003-2009, six years
>Roger Craig Smith: 2010-2017, seven years
Yep.

>>176337402
Nothing did, this idiot is just being a faggot.

That being said, you're not wrong.

Who here remember co+?

>>176335392
That used to be kind of a given for games, but very few give you the option for Japanese voices anymore.

>>176337650
Because Roger didn't voice Sonic in as many games as Griffith in a shorter period.

>>176337714
Try not being such a fuckwit then?

>>176337962
I do! I was there for several of Flynn's visits. Good times.

>>176333528
Pretty mixed. By that time "Sonic's Stupid Friends" syndrome had started setting in.

>>176337889
Interesting, doesn't feel as long. Maybe due to what >>176337998 said.

Seems like he's having fun with it and will stay as Sonic for a long time. Which is nice to have a consistent VA for Sonic.

>>176330801
That was 30 years ago anon. SEGA is owned and run by another company. They merely exists as a shell.

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So how would you end the archie comic, /sthg/? we're not going to get an official ending so anyone's here would be just as good but not better than Flynn's should he make one .

>>176338206
What is this magical company called?

>>176338361
Sammy Corp.

>>176338360
Eggman kills them all. The end.

>>176338360
Eggman kills the Freedom Fighters

>>176337796
Because memes

>>176338360
They whole cast gets together and say it's been fun folks. The end.

>>176338360
I- I still feel like it ended at #200. They defeated Eggman. There's also the future stories, new freedom fighters, all that.

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>Final Issue
>Freedom Fighters are finally began to disband and talk about their fond memories with each other and their plans after that
>Suddenly Eggman appears riding Egg Beater Mrk 2
>FF's decided to battle against him together for one last time.
>The Comic ends with The FF & Knuckles fighting a giant Eggman Mech with both Sonic and Eggman saying "LET'S DO-IT TO IT"
>>After the wide spread
>a Genesis portal suddenly opens in green hill zone
>a shadowy figure enters from the portal
>"It's Show time!"
>Scourge the Hedgehog Returns!
>ends in a cliffhanger

>The final nail in the coffin to trigger Penders
>Archie finally dies from lawsuit shenanigans and bankruptcy

>>176338360
It kind of ended though. Sonic defeated Eggman for the time being and Dark Gaia was stopped. It's not like Archie died right in the middle of an important story arc. The last actual plot-thing was the conclusion of Unleashed.

>>176333528
It was the first cross console Sonic game so it was very big for Sonic. I remember the "EB Games" near me having a promotion where if you returned 3 games you could get Heroes at a discount.


It wasn't until later that I realized what a fucking shitty deal that was.

>>176336905
Personally as much as I love Drummond, those story book games, as polarizing as the game play was, with Jason cemented him as my favorite Sonic VA.

>>176339506
That's a pretty awful deal, even if the game wasn't Heroes.

>>176337796
It hasn't aged well. Also most people remember the PS2 version, which has aged the worst.

>>176338360
Wily accidentally leans on an inconsequential button back at home
White flash happens in Sonic's world
EGGMAN WHAT DID YOU D-
Wily shrugs and continues working on Dr. Xavier's plan.

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>>176337962
Went there before coming to 4chan

>>176339791
SA1 has aged even worse than Heroes. In fact Adventure 1 was rough around the edges even when it came out. Yes people remember that one quite fondly.

>>176340536
You see a lot of people shit in both adventure games nowadays.

>>176340536
SA1 has dreamcast nostalgia and a thicker storyline.

>>176341041
I think it isn't far fetched to say that most people that played Adventure did so on either the Gamecube or the PC.

>>176341041
>SA1
>storyline
Eggman finds a monster and tries to use it to take over the world.
Sonic beats up Eggman.
Later the monster gets out of control and Sonic beats it up too.

Wow what a story.

>>176341181
That's as good as it gets with Sonic games.

>>176341624
Hey, >>176327367 was right

>>176341181
what about seeing tails crash into emerald coast?
what about saving amy?
what about fishing with big?
what about emerald hunting with knux?
or shooting shit with gamma?
did you forget the chao gardens?

That's a pretty barebones review of SA1, anon. For its time, and hardware, it was a good solid weekend of vidya, plus more for the completionists wanting those 180 emblems.

>>176341725
>Ian Flynn

Stop toying with me.

>>176341181
To be fair, that's still better than what most of the later games try to do.

>>176341823
It took me probably a month or 2 as a kid to beat that game and I never could finish the Big stages.

>>176341141
Dreamcast fans used to be vocal though. SA1 was the last true Sonic game. Heroes, and SA2 to lesser extent, were newgen stuff.

>>176341181
Moar than heroes, you kinda described heroes storyline actually.

I feel like when people say they want SA3, they actually mean the thick story, not the varied gameplay.

>>176342214
>The only REAL games are the games I grew up
Get a ucking grip

>>176342839
Not my sonic

>>176341181
Adventure is the first game that tells a story cinematic-ally. It's also the first game where the story is a little more mature and dark. Sonic CD was dark too but the average child wouldn't have read between the lines enough to really grasp it.

>>176342214
SA1 is probably the 3D title that feels the most like classic stages brought into a 3D world. Despite the fact that it was the first attempt at Sonic being in the real world, it still has a very cartoonish art style.

>>176339687
It could've been for Metal Gear Solid 3 and it'd still be a shitty deal.

>>176342214
Forces story seems like it's going to be pretty thicc.

>>176306005
you mean the 'chinks' that fucking created it? they're actually nips btw

>>176337845
Griffith also did Sonic X which was 2003 and Shadow the Hedgehog which was 2005. That's why it felt like such a long time

>>176343669
Yeah. I wonder what Pontaff shitposters think now that Forces has a darker story.

>>176343968
I'm just hoping they won't fuck it up like they did with Lost World

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This really doesn't matter since Boost is now a definite Gameplay staple for 3D Sonics.

all it needs now is more playable Friends that isn't an alternative Sonic, and the new guy for forces is a start.

>>176337889
Jason Griffith will always be my favorite

>>176344172
>New character's name is Boost

>>176344172
But anon, he has a different gameplay style. That means he's bad.

>>176337889
It's ironic that the shortest one was the best.

>>176345002
But RCS is the longest

>>176345002
I agree, wish he had more than just the one OVA.

>>176304249
>>spending a couple hours drawing fanart of the werehog
>> I even took the time to mail it to SEGA of America
>>sent a letter back a month later along with a copy of issue #175

175 was published May 2007, and according to Wikipedia: "The title was first brought to public attention when the Sonic Unleashed name was trademarked by Sega on March 12, 2008"

Something doesn't add up.

>>176345942
They had extra copies of that issue and figured they'd get rid of them? What's not adding up?

>>176337796
I guess now it feels lacking compared to most sonic games due to the small number of stages that get tweaked a bit in order to cover the gameplay of all the teams. The simple story doesn't help either...

>>176347236
Most 3D sonic games to be precise*

>>176343968
For anyone whining about how Sonic shouldn't be dark. I would argue that there has always been a somewhat darker aspect to Sonic. Using innocent little animals to power machines and destroy nature to build toxic factories is more serious than the more fairy tale like story of Mario, save the the princess from the evil dragon. And if you want an example of dark Sonic pre Dreamcast era, look no further than Sonic CD. There's nothing wrong with a more serious Sonic, I think people just associate the darker games with shit because of the comical way it was portrayed in Shadow.

>>176347906
Why do people have problems with ShTH's story anyway?

>>176348231
He gives you the illusion of multiple paths just to give you a last, true ending.

>>176348231
ShTH
Sonic Hedgehog The Hedgehog?

SegaSonic Hedgehog The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles

>>176348231
All of the paths are shallow because they're 6 levels per run, there's no proper build to any of them because your level selection can go all over the place, almost all of them are generic and amount to 10-year-old FF.net writing, and all of them are completely irrelevant because the last story overrides all of them.

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what does he mean by this?

>>176348347
>>176348730
I'm guessing Sonic Team thought the endings would feel satisfying at the moment you were seeing them.

>>176348730
I really need to play Shadow. I'm going to see if I can emulate it.

>>176349348
Yeah, that's why it was so full of shit.

>>176349348
"I am a gigantic faggot please rape my face."

I love how his tweets get two or three likes tops.

>>176349348
He's completely right, but in the exact opposite way he thinks he is.

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>>176349348

>>176349356
>>176349442
The game would've been a lot more tolerable if you just played all the levels in a single playthrough with the final ending being based on how many of each mission you did.

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>>176349786
>I wanted the series to succeed
>So that's why I threw a bitchfit after Chronicles, went to court for my Donuts and set the comic back a couple times.
>Now the comic is dead.

Imagine a world where Sonic 06 wasn't rushed, and got amazing critical reception from everyone. I think that if it did, we would have gotten Sonic games that were similar to it. We could have gotten a Sonic the Hedgehog 2. 06 was like a next gen Adventure 1, the hypothetical game I'm talking about could be a next gen Adventure 2. The art design and gameplay style was forgotten but I feel like if it didn't get the extremely negative criticism that it did, we would have continued getting games in that same aesthetic and style. We wouldn't have games like Unleashed, Colors and Generations. Rather we would have had more ambitious games, akin to 06. The criticism that 06 got made Sonic Team drop and change everything. Which is a shame, because I think it would have been interesting as fuck to see more games in that art style that 06 had. I rambled for a bit but I hope you lot got what I was trying to portray.

>>176350702
Baldy McFuckHair piece of shit fat fuck

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>>176350409
It's like he's trying to push the blame for that on Archie or something.

Is the guilt hitting him or something?

>>176350762
I disagree. We might have slowly made our way around to the boost formula but I think Sega would have continued to be careless and rush Sonic out the door had 06 not been a slap in the face that it was. 06 would have led to a worse future for Sonic.

>>176351310
*a good 06 would have led to a worse future.

I don't think it would have ever been received well by the public. Passable maybe.

>>176350962
That nigga has brain problems. His art for the comics wasn't even that bad. But the shit he's doing now looks like a parody it's so hilariously bad.

>>176351457
Fix up the glitches and load times and you pretty much have a Adventure title for (what was at the time) next gen consoles. If you dislike 06 but adore Adventure 1 and 2, you are a dumb hypocritical bastard in every sense of the word.

>>176349348
There is no fucking way you can have this little self-awareness. That's the kind of perfectly worded double-entendre you would only see on some sitcom. I can't believe this is real.

>>176350762
I agree that certain elements of 06 not responsible for its shittiness or still with potential, like hub worlds and characters other than Sonic, might have still existed in Sonic games had 06 been better.

I think we'd still get boost and Sonic-only games as well, though. Many games before 06 focused only on Sonic, and boost seems like a natural progression to appeal to "going fast". You can even see what I'd argue is the beginning of boost in 06's mach speed sections where you go faster than normal but can't slow down. The majority consider Sonic games as "games where you go fast", streamlining levels and making Sonic faster was bound to happen sooner or later.

Not saying that Boost is good or bad, that's not an argument I want to get in. Just saying that I think we'd be getting Boost or something very similar no matter how past games were received. If 06 was good and the history of the franchise dramatically altered I think we would still get Sonic-only games and Boost, but that wouldn't be everything we get.

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Hey friends. You up for a draw and vidya stream tonight

>>176352341
>Fix up the glitches and load times and you pretty much have a Adventure title for (what was at the time) next gen consoles.
Maybe if it also had more content and a different story.

>>176322698
Hell to the fuck no.

>>176328621
>TLSC
>Published
K.

Hm, now that I think about it, maybe Penders' plan is:
>sell pre-orders
>NEVER deliver on them at all
>wait for people to sue
>get his (wife's) lawyers to counter-sue
>????
>Profit! Hard!

Like most of what Penders does, it won't work cus no one will pre-order, I'm just speculating that he *thinks* this will work.

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>>176352480
Would it be Merry-o vidya?

>>176352480
Sure why not

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Who the fuck keeps making these 300-reply "ARCHIE SONIC IS DEAD" posts on /co/? Imagine the fucking confusion if it miraculously recovers.

>>176337714
What did you post?

>>176351583
>wasn't even that bad
Are you high on acid? He would copy/paste a page worth of panels and use stock photos from Google Images for backgrounds. If he *wasn't* the worst, he was in the top three, along with Many Hands and Ron Lim.

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>>176352754
>that sameface "artist" with squashed anatomy
Only Hayakain is worse.
>those images Hayakain did for the before and after improvement deviantart meme
Instant comedy gold!

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>>176353007

I actually liked Sonic Chronicles for the gameplay and the silly story. All the lore in the files really showed that the team working on it actually played the other games. I wish they could've continued.

>>176352480
I'd be down

>>176353454
>All the lore in the files really showed that the team working on it actually played the other games.
Please tell me you're joking.