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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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New 3DS game is called "Deep Strange Journey" further info and teaser:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/dsj/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXOfSFb2EU

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/kHK2a6dR

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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Reminder to be polite, please
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>>176240168
First for best boy
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>>176240327
t.lawbabby
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

YOU VOTE NOW
>yes
>no
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>>176240346
>being too slow
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>>176240168
You need to get more images, OP.
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>>176240567
Did I use that one before? My b
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>>176240168
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>>176240795
Yes.
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>>176240795
Why'd you post the shoop?
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>>176240795
Serph has a nice ass
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>>176240968
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>>176239953

Exactly. They all could swap persona and had affinities that could be dealbreakers considering how they influenced SP costs, or at worst compatibility, be unable to use at all/only be able to use its support skill but not be able to actually equip them in battle.

Besides, they didn't completely rely in persona stats as in neo persona, back then characters had their own human stats that then were averaged with the stats of the equipped persona. They still favored certain builds so its not like all characters were the same if they equipped X persona as if would happen if they entirely relied in persona for stats.

Anyways, the biggest excuse I've heard from neo persona babbies about party wide persona swap systems is that the characters would be too overpowered, as if they had never played the original trilogy. I mean, it's not like you can create ultimate persona at early or midgame, inheritance limitations is a thing and in their ideal overpowered scenario, skill cards are super plentiful or the game shits repels and drain cards at you.
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>>176241334
If there was some way to limit what you could and could not be weak/strong to, that'd go a long way. 1 more encourages minimizing weaknesses, which you could fairly trivially do if you could swap everyone about. Affinities and individual stats can only do so much. Proper press turn in persona when
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Is the old streamer xboxhueg/fagetbox around?
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>>176241017
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>>176241556

It's not like neo persona really lets enemies take advantage of it that easily. Just remove the one character most susceptible to get weakness hit and that's all, and I doubt it would kill not using let's say skull or panther in a single dungeon where their weakness is spammed.

So yeah, even in the current format enemy use of one more is trivialized to the point it is a non issue considering the game gives you a shitton of pointless character that are that numerous only due you cannot do anything about their weaknesses, and a bit later in the game, you can swap them on the fly with the same ease you could swap persona in previous game in the unlikely case you fucked up and brought somebody weak to the main element of the dungeon
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can I have some based demi fiend memes
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>>176241017
Why do we hate Heat again?
>>176238830
I would mind if they at least made cast more customisable even with affinities with personas or wild card shit, like using the skill cards or more manual and direct growth in their stats like incense or making hangouts to develop those stats would be just as great too.
>Fusion spells
Should be put with how baton passing works too, three was the last game with them period, right? They should return. Shit like Tower's gun skills could be a gateway to bringing that shit back too.
>>176241556
>Proper press turn in persona when
>breaking what little balance it had already
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>>176242447
>Why do we hate Heat again?
He's literally our guy though
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>>176242332

PRIME

MINISTER
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>>176242447
>balance
>when P5 Slinks throw in several crazy mechanics that trivialize the game
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I'm playing through SMT II for the first time, I understand that I need 10 int and 10 mag for a certain event. Int has its uses from what I heard, but mag is actually worthless for Aleph. So there are drinks + incense that get up my mag, do I actually need to put any points into mag to reach 10 mag or can I just find some incense and take the mag drink?
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>>176242735

My favorite meme is how playing gun games with a kid somehow gives you the power to halve the enemies's HP with a gun ambush, because joker totally didn't think he could do that until he played with a kid
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>>176242735
Hence little.
You don't want it to be crit Hassou Tobi now with more turn abuse.
Besides that balance breaking can be fixed by simply adding a bullshit optional boss like Elizabeth/Satan/Demifiend/Masakado/Stephen into the mix to at least justify strength arcana.
But that always seems to be re release/DLC thing now for atlus and the twins are too easy.
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Look I'm not a lolicon. Never had anything close to that urge. But replaying Raidou? Seeing this girl?

I get it.
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>>176242584
Was that Beelzebub?
Or was Beelzebub the Chancellor of hell?
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>>176240493
Goddamn that artwork is so shitty

Dude's passing a kidney stone on the ground while some androgynous big spooky demon fucker has an expression on his face that conveys zero emotion, what a godawful fucking design, you can tell kaneko or whoever drew it thought "oh shit, this is the supreme dark emperor of darkness" or some gay ass shit and probably jerked his little boy fedora cock. Hazama himself looks like a faggot, seriously, did he drop out of a burton movie or something lmao is he going to sing some voltaire or goth emo dark cabaret garbage while preening? And then you have the protagonist designs with no knees

Why did people like this shit again? Hackeko has choked any creative desire out of the series from its roots, glad doi's trying to bring at back (though dsj looks like shit). Fucking christ even the 4 archangels, centaur, and lilith are better than a lot of mid 90s kaneko trash
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>>176243096

She's a demon, probably she's like five hundred years old so its okay.
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>>176243169
Kek
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>>176242332
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AIn!
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>>176243169
they're used to it
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>>176242332
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>>176243169
>Dude's passing a kidney stone on the ground while some androgynous big spooky demon fucker has an expression on his face that conveys zero emotion
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How do I fight Daisoujou in Nocturne? Apparently, there's some soul I need to find somewhere to activate his event?
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>No shota demons
Kaneko is a hack
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>>176243219
He was making a reference.
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>>176243494
Fight Thor first then go to the East part of Ikebukuro
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I've become smitten with this 80's angel. How do I cope?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12925438
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>>176243828

That nigga looks like a deranged rapist
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>>176243724
marriage
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>>176243896
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>>176243724

Rape her until the lustful desires fills her with sin and transforms first into a fallen angel and later into a full blown lust demon
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Hey I'm random and wacky. I played Raidou 2 before Raidou 1. Is it possible to go back and play 1? Spork.
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>>176244160
No. Literally impossible.
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>>176244160

It will be hard to get used to it. Raidou 2 was a huge jump in gameplay quality. Still worth it if you like the atmosphere and story, or you could simply watch a let's play/story scenes video series
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>>176243724

REPENT, SINNER.
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>>176244160
Raidou 2's gameplay was a lot smoother and more fun than Raidou 1's.
But Raidou 1 had a better story and one of my favorite SMT antagonists.
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>>176244160
As long as you do it at night so cops won't catch you.
If someone knocks your door when you are playing mute the game and pretend that you aren't home.
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>>176243428
Is't this the game that takes place after SMT I law route? Translation when?
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>>176244354

>Not commiting a sin with the celestial host

It's like you don't like divine pussy
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>>176243550
>tfw degenerate lolicon with a sadism fetish
At least I'm not Anthony Burch.
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>>176243428
I've seen this a lot of times, so I can't believe I only now noticed Metatron
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>>176243981
>>176244143
>>176244354
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm gonna go play SMTII later.
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>>176244656
But your children will be huge deformed gingers.
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>>176242223
Well this
Just give me a 4-5 main cast+Navigator that's actually developed and relevant to the plot beyond their introduction
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Airi is for bully
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MY DEMONS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT

Post meme builds pls
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>>176245296
Level them all to 99 for the maximum meme team.
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Fuck it I want to see if this is something that would work

https://discord.gg/9k9m9c4
Possible /smtg/ discord server

If its shit or dead I can just delete it at the end of the day
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>>176245449
>discord
What is the point of the general then? Fuck off.
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>>176245296
This is the closest thing to a meme build I made.
"Clean your 3ds" I know. This is an old picture.
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>>176245296
>implying you wouldn't do this
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>>176243578
ty
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>>176245113
Airi's round face
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>>176245380
I'm on it now.

Is there a good fusion guide so I can work them to maximum meme status?
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>>176242447
I found it funny that they actually gave Shido what was basically Beast Eye like half of the bosses in Nocturne. It would be hilarious if he could have just gone full on Mot in Merciless mode and wipe you. He probably could at the very least wipe you out with Tarukaja, Marakuna, Tyrant Wave, but he always just uses Masukuna instead.
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>>176245618
The ultimate meme build for Jack Frost is

Ice Pleroma
High Ice Pleroma
Refridgerate
Spirit Focus
Concentrate
Repel Fire
Enduring Soul
Ice Pierce

Making this build to OHKO Masakado instead of the standard urielshitter felt so good
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>>176245113
I hate her so much yet I want to do lewd stuff with her.
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>>176246007
Shido having multiple turns is too mu-
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>>176243157
Apparently the line in SMTIV:A is just a hypothetical. "I won't let anyone get in my way; man, demon or even prime minister". But a prime minister trying to stop you from challenging Lucifer so you can become his general sounds like something that'd happen in one of these games. Like 12 of the Ars Goetia fight you so you don't take their jobs or some shit.
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Anyone manage to rip the Durarara characters from the Japanese version of DeSu2?
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>>176242447
>Why do we hate Heat again?
Since when is that a thing?
I wasn't aware

>>176246007
Setanta pulled that shit on me more than Mot, I remember random enemies pulling that shit in DDS too.
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>>176245604
Eh, just figured it might be a fun thing to try out.
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>>176246449
Can we get Nakajima from /g/?
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>>176246449
Will she be the Marie of Strange Journey?

I'm looking forward to it.
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>>176246354

Persona babbies would cry if they played games other than nu-persona
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>>176245604
>Dumb nigger fag clings to a dying medium.gif
Image boards are over.
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>>176246572
Only if we get Akito from /r9k/
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>>176246746
/vg/ at least since these threads are getting slower and slower
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You niggas gonna get one of those new 2DS XLs? My XL is starting to peel away the outer layer on the sides after all the MH hours so I'll probably get one to put in reserve.
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>>176246887

Never. I don't believe in portables other than my phone. Home consoles forever.
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>>176245934
>>176245657
>>176245380
>>176245296
Just checked my save file and I haven't opened it up in a good while. I think I was going for another round of Waifu Sentai Flynnonger, but got bored grinding for cash to summon them.

I think I'll spend a few hours each day them up to par on my new Neutral Route run to cuck Bobo.

Wish me luck.
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Post Get Smoked edits
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>>176245821

is cute
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>>176247072

Made for rape and lots of creampie
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>>176247072
>>176245821
>>176245113
Shit girl
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>>176247219

Don't rape Airi
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>>176247045
Fresh from the shitty meme mines.
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>>176247045
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>>176246887
What MH would you recommend someone to play?
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>>176247297

You're shit
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>>176247370
No reason to play anything but the most recent one.

Mechanics improve with every iteration.
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>>176246979
Portables are real.
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>>176245449
If I can't get 10 people by days end I'll delete this
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>>176247663
Your life, you mean?
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>>176247718
Nah im pretty happy with my life
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>>176247565

>Implying

They are just one of YHVH's lies
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>>176247045
Literally the best character design of all of SMT. Prove me wrong.
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>>176249134
I can't because she is best
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>>176247325
Is this a fuhrer for ants?
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>>176242735
>>176242447

Isnt a good chunk of modern megaten fusing demons that end up trivializing the game?
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>>176249134

Argilla is better
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zezk3uc40Q
Have Rivers in the Desert
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>>176247325
the look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged
Hitler is known to be THE most hung guy in Sumaru City , possibly one of the biggest in the amala network. his cock has been described as "mass destruction", with gargantual thickness that would rival mara or mishaguji. im estimating his size to be at least 8.5" bone pressed, with OVER 7" of girth. he would have absolutely destroyed maya's pussy.
they would have spent hours and hours on foreplay, getting herself wet enough just so she can take it. i can just imagine her begging for it, with hitler barely able to force it past the knob, and maya moaning and squirming, demanding him to force it in deeper. she would have orgasm'd within seconds of taking the entire length, being filled and stretched right up to her cervix.. the orgasm would have been powerful, with her vaginal muscles clamping down on hitlers throbbing monstrosity, her whole body quivering in euphoria..
i bet she still masturbates to the memory of it
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>>176249561
Nice.
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>>176249561
I like it.
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>>176249443
Even "infinite MP" Nocturne Daisoujou is not even close to P5's Slinks
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>>176249681
Man I hate his generic "im evil now" look
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>>176249134
Literally fem Jonathan.
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>>176249830
Is that a bad thing?
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>>176249726
>>176249681
>>176249561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHcA3XS2nPs
This works way better then it should
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>>176249134
Look to the right of the pic

>>176249635
Maya is for marriage
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>>176249990
You wouldn't do someone with hair that fluffy?
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>>176249830
>>176249990
Fucking finally understand why I liked Kawakami so much.
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>>176249443
Name to me one demon, that when fused, trivializes the game before the end of the first quarter like the Slinks do. And no, daisoujou does not accomplish this.
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>>176250112
Fluffy hair/sex hair is the best

She looks terrible in the maid outfit but her normal look is 10/10
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>>176247045
how do i get a gf with fluffy hair
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>>176250213
Find some old hag who doesn't know about conditioner
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>>176250112
>>176250062
>>176249876
So kawakamifaga are closet lawfags?

Who knew the people with shit taste in alignment also had shit taste in women

On another note
>select the type of sign above
What the fuck?
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>>176246746
>not understanding that bring anonymous is the best way to have honest discussions of topics.
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>>176246746
every single discord turns into a stagnant in jokey garbage dump of like 5 people posting memes at each other
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>>176250263
You can't have an honest discussion if there is a name attached? I have no problem calling anyone a faggot regardless of name.
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>>176250362
What shitty discords do you browse? None of the ones I browse are like that.
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>>176249474
Argilla is a dyke! A lesbian!
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>>176250432
People in the circle jerk always say that
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>>176250362
>turns into a stagnant in jokey garbage dump of like 5 people posting memes at each other
So /smtg/?
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>>176250203
I agree with you wholeheartedly

>>176250259
But anon, I got neutral on my first smtiv (and first smt) playing blind
I have since then inclined towards neutral-chaos usually but I really, really like Jonathan. Plus Kamiya is my male va crush.
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>>176250435
If it weren't for Argilla sera's autism would have destroyed dds
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>>176250476
But /vg/ is THE circle jerk board
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>>176250259
But anon I've never in my life gotten a law ending

Neutral for life
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>>176250479

If you think this place is bad you haven't seen real shit
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>>176250141
You're right, but I can't think of any SLinks that trivialize the game in the first quarter either.
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>>176244571
i'm pretty sure the actual game is next to impossible to find

we can only hope atlus remakes SMT2 and includes it as a bonus
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>don't brush your hair when you're working as a teacher
>does when working as a whore
Kawakami is too cute
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>>176249134
you are literally fucking retarded
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>>176250741
no you are literally fucking retarded
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>>176243724
why isn't her name spelled as gabrielle instead
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>>176250678
Oh im not complaining, at least this place isn't katawa shoujo general
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>>176250741
Dumb fujo Yusuke a shit
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>>176250701
>i'm pretty sure the actual game is next to impossible to find
what game?
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>>176250924
SMT 20XX

most of it is recycled SMT2 content so it's not like it would be hard to include as a bonus scenario
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>>176250719
Shit girl
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>>176251000
Never even heard of it
>Its a phone game
Ill pass
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>>176250741
>>176250874
literally kill yourselves you d*mb fucks
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I'm sketching out ideas for a Shin Megami Tensei tabletop RPG. Beyond avatar tuner, summoner, and persona-user, am I missing any major PC classes?
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I love Strange Journey and the fact that Mem Aleph has level 5 instant kill and the only armor in the game that nulls curse and doesn't suck you have to beat Mot 3 times with Mot being one of the most rare enemies to find
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>>176251339
Half-fiend? Technically there's 3 in Nocturne
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>>176251339
The Marines from Stange Journey would be a bitchin class to play. Would you count them as too similar to summoners?
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>>176251339
You are already approaching the idea wrong.
Repeating proper nouns from good thing does not make your thing good.
Focus on the important stuff first and shit like "classes" follows naturally.
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>>176251734
>>176251529
I was planning on putting that as an option for summoners, because they'd work similarly based on mechanics.

I might be missing something on how summoners are differentiated across the series.

>>176251847
I have exactly zero RPG design experience. I'm just going to graft bits of good existing systems together and put an SMT skin on it.
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>>176251339
Settings?
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>>176247663
>>176245449
6 people, so far so good.
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Nocturne: How do I get demons to stop saying they can't join me? I'm trying to recruit Badb Cathas and that's all they say, even when I'm higher level than them.
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>>176252578
You probably got too many demons in your party?
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>>176252624
nah, I still have like 4 free slots
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Got the arm in MT2 what bonus does it give?
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>>176252000
>I'm just going to graft bits of good existing systems together and put an SMT skin on it.
You are making shit and I'm sad to your players as they have to waste time with crap like that.
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>>176247045
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>>176252041
I'm hoping to minimize the mechanical relevance of setting.

>>176252941
It worked for Dungeons the Dragoning.

>>176252578
Jive Talk?
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>>176247045
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In SMT 3, should I join with gozu or nah?

Does it even matter?
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>>176250492
Is it boys-with-fluffy-hair time?
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>>176253882
Kill them all
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I think Fumi may have ended up being my favorite
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>>176253882
It doesn't matter if you're going True Demon Ending.

It affects your alignment otherwise.
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>>176254102
Why are Krishna and Flynn trying to molest each other but in different ways
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>>176252578
Dice roll basically. You may get better result on higher (not full) Kagutsuchi. Or get demons with talking skills (not recommend)
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Thought about replaying Raidou, so I looked up my old end game save and I think this is the greatest game ever.

I have throne following me all chill and I can send it out on solo expedition, when I get to control this magnificent flaming wheel-man.

Also it's a end game save, but I have mid game Lamia in my party, and I'm pretty sure that's choice made 100% by my dick.
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>>176254451
Raidou 3 deserve to exist man. Shit, you can slap Kingdom Hearts's combat on it and it would probably be GOAT
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>>176252798
Anyone?
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>>176254451
>I have mid game Lamia in my party, and I'm pretty sure that's choice made 100% by my dick

I respect you.
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>>176254574
I've said it before. Give me a Monkey Paw and I wish for good Raidou 3 game, even if it means that no more Persona, no more mainline SMT and no more anything else.
Just Raidou.

I'm willing to burn worlds for that theoretical game.
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>>176254574
>>176254680
Raidou 3 by Platinum when?
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>>176254137
Post more Fumi if you really like her
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>>176254783

I don't really have a lot at this moment

not that's work safe anyways
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>>176254102
Had not seen that picture yet. I like you anon.
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>>176254102
no it's 40 mag autism tits time
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Is Matador with Charge good in Nocturne? Questioning whether I should spend my one deathstone on him or Daisoujou.
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>>176250697
I'd say 50,000 yen SP accessories trivialize dungeons regarding time management. Doing them in one day is piss easy
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>>176256357
Go with Daisoujou. Matador is pretty shit espeically if MC go Str. The most useful I get out of him is Taunt+Dekaja
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>>176256549
>I'd say 50,000 yen SP accessories trivialize dungeons regarding time management. Doing them in one day is piss easy
I said this to someone today, they replied "How do you casualize a dungeon? You bought equipment for it. Man I really casualized that door by having a key."
I didn't continue the discussion.
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>>176257503
Where do you live that you can talk to /v/ in real life?
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>>176256549
This. Tae's social link either should not be accessible until much later in the game or these accessories should cost significantly more than they do. It's totally possible to get two of them before palace 2, at which point the difficulty of the game completely breaks. It's actually incredible how much better her slink is than any other in the game.

Hope the rerelease of P5 fixes it
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>>176257674
It's an online friend. Still laughed, thanks anon.

>>176257849
>2 of them
Oh man, I didn't even consider getting it for the other team mates.
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>>176256357
Daisoujou. Meditation is one of the absolute best skills in the game.
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I am glad P-team is making the slinks more useful but just like how SMTIV aded smirk, it breaks the game/needs to be balanced. IV:A fixes smirk and hopefully P6 fixes this. But hashino(and most of atlus) is making some medieval game so I doubt we will se P6 in a while.
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How do I prepare for the third fight with Bat? Do I need curse immunity?
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>>176257849
It doesn't matter how much they costs as there is always grinding.

Also Temperance and Fortune are probably more important if you want to go for max sLinks play-through. Ultimately saving few dungeon days is kinda minor compared to what they give.
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>>176240493
no mt2 no vote
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>>176240493
>tfw Nocturne won

How are we going to recover SJbros?
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>>176257674
/v/ is pretty surface level, a "/v/ comment" is more like a generic internet comment now


>>176258187

I'm actually not a fan of the way P5 handles that at all. If they're going to do something like that I'd rather see something like App points because now people are ranking slinks based on how useful they are for gameplay when the game is already really easy.

Cool if they want to give more incentive to doing links but they should be more clever about it than "okay this one gives mechanics that should have been in the game from the start, these break the game and these are actually useless"
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>>176258693
There's nothing wrong with your opinion not coinciding with others.
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>>176258994
If there's something /v/ is known for, it's stupid allegories
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>>176259302
Bad analogies are internet opinions 101

Just start talking about food and/or someone defecating on something and you've got 99% of analogies.
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Just how the FUCK does this thing work?
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>>176260369
Globalists.
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Why do people dislike him again?
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>>176260369
Which other conspiracies could be made into demons? Flat Earth? Fake moon landing?
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>>176259489
I would honestly say the Victory Cry Kaiwan trick in Persona 4 Golden is a bit more broken.

I don't really think the ability to restore SP in of itself is a huge gamebreaker to begin with...It mostly just sort of acts to extend the days you have to go into the dungeon instead of blowing through it all at once. I guess it can help a little with bosses in battle, but you still need to be prepared.

For me a bigger gamebreaker is whipping out Siegfried in P3. Vorpal Blade + strength boosts + great status = GG to almost anything. I once oneshot a fucking boss with it.

And forget about challenge on any difficulty if you do unlock Monad, just run from anything you can't knock down, kill what you can, easy level 99. Hell, Nyx on Hard is piss easy way before that, it's kind of a shame.
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>>176258165
>>176256645
I hear that Forneus and Badb Cathas are really good for fusing him. Is this true?
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>>176260969
Forneus has Fog Breath so yes. Ideally you want to pack a bunch of buffs on him since he literally has infinite MP for them
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>>176260940
Makes no sense to me either but IVA is the persona of mainline and they NEED a but monkey.
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This is the Persona General, right?
No but seriously I've recently been trying to get into SJ but it's not really clicking. I've also played, and enjoyed, other mainlines. I'm not trying to get people to persuade me into liking it, but for the people that did: why?
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>>176261285
Rad setting, decently likable characters, dungeon crawling is fun if you don't get lost.
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>>176260940
he still acts like a pompous ass after death but he doesn't really do anything bad unlike in 4 and he's overall pretty helpful so they just give him shit
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>>176260956
>Victory Cry Kaiwan trick in Persona 4 Golden
?
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>>176261285
i was always too intelligent to like SJ
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>>176261454
Literally first result in google
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How does no one have the soundtracks for the various other versions of Megami Tensei? I've only ever seen the Famicom and Super Famicom versions.
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>>176262040
what the hell do you mean

those are the only versions of Megami Tensei

unless you mean the telenet one, which is a completely different game (and also has pretty good music)
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>>176262156
Yeah, that's what I meant, my bad.
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>>176261285
dungeon crawling at breakneck speed with glorious DS graphics
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>>176262261
http://vgmrips.net/packs/pack/digital-devil-story-megami-tensei-nec-pc-8801
there's this at least

i like yumiko's theme
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Can someone post the Persona 1 picture saying "You want to play persona, are you stupid?"
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which one do I choose to make him sound autistic
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>>176262697

Shrinky Shrinky
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WE??
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JOBS ARE FOR SUCKERS


words to live by
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>>176263525
>playing the ds version
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>>176262697
>>176263101
>>176263525

Bunny is my kind of guy
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>>176263525

I assume from the dialogue this is another persona style "fuck yeah, retarded teenagers are the shit!" game
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>>176263795
SMT 1 protag is like 15 years old my dude
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>>176264027
and his dog is no different
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>>176263795
Bunny is just autistic, as jrpg protags should be.
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>>176264027

Indeed he was, but he didn't do dumb teenager things while the world was ending or like "adults sucks, go go teenager power" or had friends with that mindset. Age wasn't relevant for his story
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>>176264270
my nigga it's just one diologe option you CAN play it straight edge if you wanna be a lame-o
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>>176264270
Well a normal teenager wouldn't associate with a school shooter getting beaten up by thugs
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>>176264451
Especially since they were the "no" gang.
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>>176264451
You're an idiot if you don't try to be friends with someone with a camo trench coat
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>>176264248
Jesus fuck my sides
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>>176264451

Well, when the world is being invaded by man-eating demons, I wouldn't mind joining a guy with sick guns.
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>>176264270
>didn't do dumb teenager things while the world was ending
and that takes away from the realism. if the world was ending, people need some form of escapism or need to distract themselves temporarily if they don't want to go insane. the fact that a 15 year old kid was able to just power through everything is retarded, even if he was a reincarnation of adam. the kid lost his mother for fuck's sake

>adults sucks, go go teenager power
That's not at all what that dialogue option implies. Are you projecting because you didn't get to do this in your youth? the only people i know that complain about this shit when it's not there are people who didn't have any friends growing up and don't like when they see kids having fun

>friends with that mindset
Unbelievable, for reasons stated above.
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>>176264027
Yeah and he stabbed a man just to watch him die
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Is the teaser the only info we have for the Switch game?
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>>176265073

>Realism

Only if they were genuinely doing it to release some steam and reduce stress. Shitty teens like in persona go from watching a dude dying or a suicide attempt to "dood, let's hit on some girls lmao"

You can try to reason it like you want, but the game presents all those situations like retarded teens doing retarded teen stuff regardless of the context of their situation.
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>>176263647
>not playing the DS version
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>>176265359
who you callin retarded
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>>176263647
>>176265484

>Playing desu 2 at all
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>>176265178
Pretty much. Although they did release an extended trailer with about 5 seconds of extra footage. You can see it on this video at 41:20

https://youtu.be/_yPGeS6tkjk?t=2480
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>>176265359
Mood whiplash is a problem in persona but I don't think it's genuinely a bad as an issue as you make it out to be. In fact, I can't even really think of one example where this happens - maybe P4, since that game has atrocious writing, but even then it feels like you're exaggerating. It also helps that the situations in persona are a lot less high stakes, at least until the last 80% of the game for nu-persona, whereas in SMT the characters are constantly surrounded by death and fear.

There's nothing to reason about it. If a game is just constantly dreary and depressing it's not going to be fun. Teens doing dumb stuff or girls acting cute or whatever is not out of place if it's put in the right areas, I think we can both agree on that.
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What does Freikugel mean?
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SULLIES THE WORLD
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>>176265921
Fireball
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>>176265695
Well that's fair. I'm the playing DS version of 1 now, but I got it for like $4.99 from gamestop.
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Is "son of man" a literal translation?
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>>176265921
Freeball, implying Demifiend does not wear underwear.
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breaking the seal on Krishna was a baaaaaad idea! he/she/it captured Flynn!
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>>176265921
Riot Gun
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>>176266553
>she
??
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>>176266378
Son of man is from the Bible anon. You didn't know?
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>>176260942
climate change
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>>176266721
I was raised in one of those churches that discouraged actually reading the bible in case you get some funny ideas.
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>>176265902

Indeed, I agree, and emphasis in what you said, "If put in the right areas"

Persona isn't exactly good with the timing and we have things like the MC more than willing to goof off with random people or even his teammates when they are in a in strict time limit. They can go from "holy shit, we're at only five days of being raped by the yakuza/a friend getting killed by the TV/etc" to "oh, you want to hang out? Totes cool for me"

Some activities simply shouldn't be available or encouraged during hard times, although you are right with me overracting a bit, at least they never went to the beach or something similar as a forced activity in the middle of a mission
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Hey guys. I was reminded that the DeSu2 anime exists.

I blame lawfags.
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>>176261285
No one actually likes SJ that much. Actually no one likes any SMT game that much. It is the Gundam of JRPG's after all. None of the games are that good and its time we were all honest with ourselves and admitted that we're wasting our times playing mediocre games because it has le epic demons, just like people pretend to think gundam is good because of le epic robots.
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>>176245449
Up to 8
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>>176266378
it's literally manchild
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>>176266553
>she
Anon, I...
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>>176267390

Looks like a girl, would fuck
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>>176263762
>Maerlyn's grapefruit
I love random literary references.
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>>176267309
Fucking lawfags trying to sneak insults past me
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>>176267451
>Looks like a girl
No
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>>176265359
>teens like in persona go from watching a dude dying or a suicide attempt to "dood, let's hit on some girls lmao"
That's just normal behavior for 99% of all people.
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>>176267451
would poo/10
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>>176265921
Demi-Fiend's version o Riot Gun
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SMT X Digimon when?
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>>176266913
What idiots. I'm religious, but I hate it when religious leaders do this. What most religious institutions teach is often very dumbed down compared to the actual teachings. I suppose that's just a strategy so they can appeal to as many people as possible, but it's still pretty shitty. I really do suggest not only reading religious texts, but also commentaries, essays, and treatises. You can find some really interesting stuff by diving deep.
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>>176267513
is that how Berserker God looks like?
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>>176267649

Only if we watch no name people unrelated to us dying on TV or reading it in newspapers.

Because persona likes to make things personal, usually the victims are people very close to the protagonists, so it doesn't make much sense to show that much apathy towards them.
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is he "our" guy?
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>>176263762

Bunny and Joker need to hang out
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>>176267594
If it's cute then it's a girl.
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>Playing the first Megami Tensei game
>Enemies have skills that lower your level permanently
Is it just this game or do I have to deal with this shit if I continue to play this series?
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>>176268287
Yeah.

The final boss of the newest game, SMT 4 Apocalypse, has an attack that lowers everybody's level down to 1. and it's permanent, not even reloading your save fixes that.
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>>176267728
Yeah for various reasons I got a taste about every kind of christian institution and ended up being a pretty bitter anti-institutional agnostic though I've never had a problem with monasteries.
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>>176268287

If I remember well, Tetraja blocks its effect, and I think it was only a thing in the first megatens
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>>176268287
I think it's there on SMT I as well or my game bugged and reduced my level on Tokyo Destiny Land.
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>>176267941
But boys can be cute too
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>>176267728
If they allow the believers to read the scriptures how will they be able to give the people the Jesus of unconditional love and a single quote they want? We live in a time people don't want a God they want their own creation of what a God should be to be real and church knows it well
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>>176269226
Oh no you don't, faggot.
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>>176269339
What the fuck man? I'd totally take Krishna as my lil bro but I'm not out for his boipucci
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How do I memorize Archangels and their affinities by names, they look like a bunch of fucking felt pens from the same set to me. I mean fuck, I finished P5 like a day ago and I already forgot how Michael looked like.
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>>176270072
They're color coded
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>que linking park music
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>>176270072
Michael is the red one.
Gabriel is the one with the flower.
Raphy is the one with the lesbian haircut.
Uriel is the blondie with long straight hair.
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>>176270295
What about this?
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>>176270595
You should forget those designs ever happened. Don't bother.
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>>176270595
I remember Gabby and Michael.
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>>176270595
>So bad not even /ourguy/ could have fixed them.
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>>176263525
Ronaldo's route?
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>>176270595
Gabriel doesn't look that bad
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>>176270595
>INSERT HERE REDDITORS TALKING ABOUT HOW THESE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE 80S GANGSTER DESIGNS
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how does starting a Reincarnation file in SMT4 work?
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>>176270595
>>176270925

I prefer biblically accurate angels
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>>176270595
Michael is the cool looking one
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>>176270960
So like this?
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>>176270960
>b-but it's accurate guys, Doi's Satan is totally superior
Cease this stupid excuse, they still look like shit.
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>>176271230
this
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>>176271210
can't wait for his HD model in SMT5
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>>176271230
Who are you quoting?
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>>176271230
Kaneko is more accurate imo considering he incorporates all of his titles in the design.
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>>176271303
Fuck off /jp/, I'm quoting every single general in your board.
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>>176271230
Mostly it's
>Doi's Satan is overdesigned and the 7-headed Beast is represented in Mother Harlot already
>Dude Kaneko's Satan is literally the epitome of overdesigned
>But it incorporate his appearance in mythologies
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>>176271230
>bu-but muh Kaneko-sama
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>>176271453
Did he have 6 titties in myth? Honest question
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>>176270595
I still can't believe someone in the SMT team said "wow this is good, let's put it in."
Kaneko must've died from disgust when he saw this.
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>>176271453
I have a cheap action figure of that
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>>176251339
The summoners from DeSu(maybe call them survivors?) and Magatama users.
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>>176272424
I don't see them as different as lets say, SMT I/II hero's the resources and gameplay are different but they both summen demons. Should be be called demon tamers/summoners.
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>>176272669
They can use magic

captcha:baustellen abel
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Any system where using a gun is an acceptable method of combat has shit magic
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>>176271278
Are they going to use the recent P5 models in DSJ? They're pretty good so it would be sweet.
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>>176271553
that looks good, whats your point
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>>176273016
You look good, fag
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>>176273050
your'e mom fag
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>>176261285
For me the thing that really drew me into SMT was the gameplay, fusing demons and customizing my party. Persona just doesn't offer that much customization, and to me the Persona stories tend to drag out and some of the social links are cool, but a lot of them I could do without. When I'm playing a mainline SMT game what I'm excited about is what skills I can get to next, or what new demons I can fuse, the story is of secondary importance.

Mainline games put gameplay first, Persona games put the story first.
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>>176273016
Come on now
Kaneko has great designs but he also has a few stinkers
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>>176272764

Seriously how does Persona get the gay dancing spinoff but nothing on the DESU front?
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>>176272946
Anon, DSJ is a 3DS game. They will be using SMT4 and SMT4:A sprites. Although it looks like they will be making some new sprites, like Maria and Amon.
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>>176273236
Persona is popular
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>>176273236
It's a mystery
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>>176273315
Amon has a 10/10 design I really like it al-
>Hide legs
just fucking why? I hope this does amazing and we get a SJ2 or something
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>>176273236
Persona audience is easier to cater to due to the nature of the games.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

I love how tense this track feels. Its like you really are fighting some other wordly/god and his aura alone is overpowering you.
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Is he autistic?
I do not comprehend
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>>176273315
What's even the point of it's going to look the same as the original.
I'll probably buy if they keep Kaneko's portraits in and maybe if it helps to support an actual sequel.
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>>176273397
I actually wouldn't like a SJ2. I mean, what could SJ2 even have that would justify it's existence? I felt like SJ itself was a pretty complete package. I'd rather have Atlus make something completely new.
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>>176273479
smt4 ost in general is godly. this song is perfect for the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno
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God I fuckin' hate Gaston.
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>>176273550
I don't mean story wise but gameplay wise. A pure dungeon crawler like MT1. I just finished it and really wanna replay/play DSJ now.

Ill say it once ill say it twice
SMT x NV when?
SMT x Total war when?
SMT x Warband when?
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Should I play SMTIV A or Devil Summoner.
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I'm thinking of running an SMT tabletop game with 4-5 friends of mine. Non of them (Aside from one who beat persona 3/4) have any Expirience with SMT, but they all said they would be down. Should I just homebrew the shit out of it, or is there some pre-made system that we should use?
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>>176273236
But it does.
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>>176273697
I have a soft spot for egocentric guys.
It's weird.
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>>176273831
>SMTIV A
Avoid at all cost.
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>>176273873
What's wrong with Apocalypse.
Isn't it the definitive edition of the game?
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>>176273852
>SMTxFE
Please go and stay go.
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>>176273772
Hopefully never, strategy games are boring and fuck Bethesda, they're never gonna acknowledge NV exists and they'll never let Obsidian do anything with the series again.
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>>176273975
> they're never gonna acknowledge NV exists and they'll never let Obsidian do anything with the series again.

This hurts me alot.

And I respectfully disagree strategy games are fun. Commending hordes of Pixies sounds fun as fuck
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>>176273772
How about SMT x .hack
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>>176273691
I want the more SMT to be more Cyberpunk then post apocalyptic. It's one reason why I liked SMT II then I.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqKWbj7mgmw
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>>176273926
No it absolutely is not. Apocalypse taints the beauty of SMT4 to the point where you think it might actually be fanfiction.
It's a disgusting piece of work that plays more like a bad expansion than it does a proper side story.
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>>176273926
The story is pretty meh and trash but it fixes a lot of IV's gameplay.
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There is not enough art of my Hinako
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>>176274242
Is DeSu 2 the Persona of SMT?
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>>176273836
Anyone?
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>>176274169
>>176273926
It's a sequel, not an edition

It fix some of IV's problem (broken Smirk, shitty guest designs), bring in cool stuff (affinities in fusion, new Doi designs) and introduce horrible shit (Persona writing being the biggest offender)
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>>176273926
It is, IV wasn't even good to begin with.
>>176274242
Vagina neon lights.
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>>176274242
I wish MegaTen had more girls with glasses.
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>DeSu
Fumi was the best girl, though.
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>>176273926
It's a bad sequel, it was supposed to be a definitive edition but they wanted to make more $$$$.
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>>176274147
I will say some of the songs from apoc have super cyber punky sounds which i enjoyed a lot like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtkA5bPpaU
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>>176273836
Pull in SMT II's settings:

>Post-apocalypse with demons running around
>COMP, guns, swords
>Messians and Gaians
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>>176274365
This
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So who was right guys?
Also Mastema a shit
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>>176274365
What about Persona 4?
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>>176274372
I'm about that Yuzu
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>>176274520
Is that really a question that needs to be answered?
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>>176274316
Really thought she had armpit hair from the thumbnail. Maybe next time.
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>>176274520
Slav>Spic
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>>176274540
>P4
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>>176274540

P4 is cool I guess but they don't normally wear them. It should be a character trait rather than a fashion accessory.
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Why personafags refuse to play other megaten games? Why they refuse to play P1/P2 as well?
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>>176274540
Wrong general.
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>>176274520
>Zelenin
>right about anything ever
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>>176274814
Waifus
muh social links
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>>176273697
*steals your press turn*
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>>176274814
P1 and P2 might as well be a different series.

>limiting yourself and not being a megatenfag
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>>176273494
He's not, just keep going and you'll see how deep the rabbit hole goes
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>>176274814
You're problem is thinking all personafags are like that.
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>>176246628
>P5 starts getting people into wider series
>Megaten is hard
You play one, you played them all and only stupid RNG or secret bosses are bull.
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>>176274693
>>176274840
>Persona 4
>not MegaTen
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>>176274142
So DDS?
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>it's another persona boogeyman episode
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>>176275039
In his defense, it's a pretty damn safe assumption.
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>>176274814
I'm a Persona fag and I played every numbered Persona game, I'm currently playing through DDS1 and have Nocturne waiting for me to finish DDS.
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>>176275092
That's 4G
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>>176275174
>>176275039
>>176275145
>>176274814
#NOTALLPERSONAFAGS

Yea but I would say a good majority are indeed waifufags.
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>>176275139
Why don't people talk more about the "I played one SMT game after P3-4-5 and I'm such a hardcore player Persona fucking sucks now" boogeyman.
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>>176275039
>anything on /pg/
>Fuukafag on /v/
>multiple debates on /v/ about best P5 girl everyday after P5 release West

It's a pretty safe assumption
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>>176275139
>2 games persona had clear influences
To say Persona is not a cancer, regardless of how good the games are, is folly. DeSu did not Slinks. Mainline does not need Moeblobs no matter how cute they are
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>>176275272
Nah waifufags are a small minority. Persona is popular because it's flashy and cool and easy to play with character driven stories.

If you're dumb like this guy >>176275340 and you think /v/ makes up the majority of people who play video games then yeah you might think that.
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Remind me again why we think Persona is MegaTen?
I'm blanking out on the reason.
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>>176275364
We better hope it stays that way. DeSu2 and Final had a bunch of Persona influence and it might be getting worse.
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>>176275416
Because it is
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see you at tha crossroads so you won't be lonely
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Is Navarre our Teddie?
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>>176275389
>waifufags are a small minority
One look at /pg/ and that is not true

>>176275467
If Alex is a moeblob then all hope is lost. But she does not look very moe and her in game bio is something something gotta kill the protag.
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>>176273926
Fedoralords don't like it since it's not edgy enough.
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>>176275467
>and it might be getting worse.
>might
Sorry buddy, but there's no "might" to it.
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>>176275549
>One look at /pg/ and that is not true

You're actually retarded if you think /pg/ is the core fanbase of Persona
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>>176275549
You know her route is gonna be an EVEN DEEPER NEUTRAL DO NOT STEAL and she's gonna fall in love with the protag.
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>>176275563
>LE EDGE XDDDD
No, the characters do not need to be your typical moeblob girl next door, the tone does not fit at all with mainline. Why the fuck are you in this general if you do not like edgy games?
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>>176275340
Fuukafag is cute
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>>176275640
Fuukafag is the worst person on earth
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>>176242332
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>>176275416
Demons design
Turn-based combat and "dungeon crawling"
Technically share the same timeline with Debisama
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>>176275602
Ok anon, what would the the core of the persona fanbase?
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>Get Pixie with Megidolaon
>Can't pass it to anyone except Zeed who would end up with a shit skillset if I did
What is the point
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>>176275721

Japanese people
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>>176275640
I don't really mind waifufags but Fuukafags are always the most obnoxious pieces of shit. They're transitioning into Harufags these days.
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>>176275614
>it needs to be dark just like me
Faggot.

>Why the fuck are you in this general if you do not like edgy games?
It's pokemon with better gameplay and with cute girls.
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I have a feeling some one told /pg/ that /smtg/ has better discusions about persona, and they lurk here waiting for persona to be discussed. Its odd that Persona gets alot of replays whenever its something negative. If it was only P5 then it would make sense since its a new game.
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>>176275804
Thank you for proving our point. Japanese fanbase is even worse when it comes to waifus.
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>>176275732
Of playing soul hackers? There is none, drop the game
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>>176273956
Nah, fuck you, #FE aka SMTxFE is more megaten than P5.
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I like the Doi satan redesign.
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>>176275856
I have a feeling you're a faggot who gets upset when someone talks about something you don't like even though it's completely relevant.
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Will /smtg/ ever get back to being slightly less shitty like usual?
Are we destined to be like this for the rest of our days?
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>>176275813
You understand not being moeblob =/= edgy right you autist?
>le fedora man meme
kill yourself.
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>>176275885
P5 use MegaTen demon design. #FE does not
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>>176275940
As soon as DSJ comes out and we have our annual influx from /v/ :^)
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>>176275856
>waiting for non-megaten to be discussed on megaten general
These shitsonafags brought this on themselves, let them be, they will perish from here in no time.
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>>176275885
>he didn't finish P5
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>>176275940
/smtg/ will be great again when DSJ releases.
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Once the soundtrack gets remastered in DEEP, will you finally accept SJ has the best soundtrack? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07SR4mexs0A
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>>176275885
No it's not, did you even play the ending?
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>>176275940
When art-kun comeback
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>>176276010
But anon I already accepted this fact.

IV is better though
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>>176275885
But you guys avoid discussion of it because you're still all salty about it.
100%.
>>176275858
>ran out a script writer for self inserting himself as a minor character with a waifu
Oh those kooky Nips.
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>>176275992
>>176276006
Getting mixed feelings here, but it will at least flush out the Persona fans, maybe.
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>>176275858
Persona is a fujo franchise honeslice
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>>176275804
Did the japanese liked SMTIV:Final?
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>>176276060
how salty is /feg/?
Conquest was super fucking boring so I stopped visiting there and its a rather shit general desuu
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>>176276005
>>176276034

Let the baby whine. Anyone who's trying to argue what in megaten is "more megaten" obviously has mental problems.
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>>176276127
They loved it. Only people who disliked it are the West.
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>call P5 shit
>that one samefagging shitsonacuck loses his shit instantly

Every fucking time, can personakeks be even more insecure about their pitiful joke of the series?
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>>176276146
Isn't /feg/ also full waifufags?
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Persona is megatan fact!
Persona is the weakest spin off of megatan fact!
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>>176276146
>>how salty is /feg/?

Who cares, /feg/ is easily one of the worst generals on /vg/
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>>176276213
Funny you say that because I noticed Nocturnefags get more insecure anytime someone thinks a different SMT is better than it.
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>>176276242
No joke man. Even #FE is more worthy of megaten title than numale Persona games after P2.
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>>176276242
>Persona is the weakest spin off of megatan fact!
False, that's Devil Survivor.
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>>176276340
DeSu has routes and alignments
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>>176276224
That is why I called it a shit general. I much rather be shitposting about law/chaos/nootrol with you guys.

>>176276247
/smtg/ is just slow but atleast the game's concepts, themes and art get discussed here alot.

>>176276293
>Idolshit
Nah fuck off. Fighting the archangels is way cooler then that super sayin, singing bullshit. I loved FE so SMTxFE was a major fuck you to me.
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>>176276284
This, Nocturnefags are obnoxious in that regard. They always have to pump up their unique snowflake MC too.
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>>176276394
Doesn't make the games any less shit.
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>>176276340
Fuck you. DeSu is a better game than any persona will ever be. better than most mainline games as well
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>>176276284
>personashitter bringing up Nocturne because somebody posted Metatron
Seriously now, it seems like personafags getting their info on the mainline only through forced memes or something, what a failures.
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>>176276284
So true. Can't even say I love SJ more without being crucified.
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>>176276213
I just dont understand why we spend time talking about Persona at all. Isnt that why they have their own general (other than containment). Would sitting around shitting on Final Fantasy be an appropriate waste of our time too?
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>>176276427
>not half VN shit
>Is a competent Srpg
>Can build your character in many ways
Anon please.
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>>176276293
This. At least #FE combat system is not as braindead as in P5.
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>>176276486
Final Fantasy is a good series before XIII, although XIV's also good. Why shit on it?
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>>176276491
>not half VN shit
That's just not true, and you know it.
>Is a competent Srpg
Arguably.
>Can build your character in many ways
Yeah. I'll give you that.
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So basically, they thought Lucifer as a white ayyy nigger was not a good idea, and their response was color him black?

Did you like it
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>>176276528
>not braindead
>attack weakness
>session a billion times
>mamori exists
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>>176276554
>Final Fantasy is a good series before XI

Fixed. The MMO model was the worst thing to happen to that series.
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>>176276617
We don't want Personafags here. Your kind aren't welcome here.
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>>176276562
Anon, like, taking 3 minutes to talk to npcs before a battle does not make the game HALF vn shit. Skipping ALL the cutscenes and talking in my second run of P5 it took me FOUR hours to get to the first combat.

And that aspect of the game is MUCH better then Nu-Persona since, If I don;t time it right, or talk to the right people at the right time people will die.

>>176276528
Anon P5 is easy, but so is #FE. Also
fighting archangels with actual Nocturne callbacks > Idolshit
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>>176276601
His chair is neat, if gaudy.
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>>176276601
>I feel defeated as an artist
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>>176276707
Stop talking about persona.
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>>176276669
#FE fags Don't belong here either.
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Wow two minutes in and I already want to sick it in Asahi's Asahihole.
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fighting Thor w/ actual Nocurne callbacks>idolshit
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>>176276786
#FEfags doesn't exist

>>176276707
>>176276819
Why the fuck does P5 have so many Nocturne callbacks?
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>>176276761
Discussions on Persona is allowed here
Persona fags are not though there is a difference
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>>176276850
Because P5 seems like an apology for p4
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>>176276554
You completely missed my point on purpose
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>>176243896
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>>176276868
Any discussion of persona means you're from /pg/ and I don't want that shit here. Get out.
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>>176275958
Grow up.
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fighting both Adam & Eve in SMT:NINE > Adam & Eve in NieR
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>>176276812
I wanted to fondle Asahi's asahis
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>It's a personafags get #triggered again episode
Isn't it funny how this general shits on every megaten game ever and everything is fine, but the moment someone talks about persona on a bad light personafags need to have their minor meltdown.
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Fuck off with your loud fighting about muh spinoffs like a bunch of faggots for at least a second.
I want to think about what happened with America in SMT1/2. Unless I missed a NPC.
I mean it's obvious everywhere got nuked.
But how did the world react to the US actions? Was there more demons in disguise than just Thor because how could a senator get permission to bomb Japan? Were the forces of law all replacing officials like a bodysnatcher movie? Or was Thorman simply that convincing because demons were leaving from the Abyss and already running rampant in the urban districts?
What went on in the 30 years globally? Did demons spread that far? Where there more places where humanity was able to rebuild among the forces of law and chaos?
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>>176276562
There's no VN shit anywhere in DeSu. Unless you're going on about the dialogue and characters, which actually somewhat resemble human beings that deal with the crisis at hand in different ways. You know, unlike some other game series.

It's a perfectly competent SRPG - it pretty seamlessly combines srpg elements with SMT gameplay. What are you complaining about? Or do you just not have an argument?
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>>176276819
I went into P5 expecting nothing, but that final portion of the game was pretty good. Shame it wasn't a bigger part of the game though
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>>176276912
FF is a good series for most of its lifetime
Persona is not
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>>176245296
>200 Ma
>less than 300 MP
lol
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>>176276850
Adding in Demon negations and demon models makes me think they really wanna bridge the gap. And alot of people that worked on Nocturne workd on P5. Also there is a callback to SMT I and II and fucking P2EP of all things as well. P5 is the only nu-persona game I like I just think anyone who thinks a game series that is half VN shit is better then whatever else Megatan has to offer, is a shitter

>>176276970
Fucking this.
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>P5 brought 1999 bastards to megaten

Next installment will crash the franchise completely. Low IQ 99s kids, who couldn't beat Kamoshida for weeks are bad enough as it is, but after GenZ flood us we'll start to cry out loud for salvation. 2000s degens are the worst.
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>>176277068
that happened to me too. my Mag is over 200 but muh MPs only at 300 why's that
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>>176277091
>call back to EP
Literally just "oh Philemon is still relevant somehow remember him guise"
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>>176277040
Likewise

Seeing Gabriel being the least aggressive made me dickhard and I was half expecting her not to fight you like in SMT II. BUT she is just a shadow and not a real demon. Why the fuck could't P5 have demons?

>>176277217
No they mention Katsuya unfortunately in the same sentence he is with Chie I think.
>>
THE FIRMAMENT
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>>176277217
>"oh Philemon is still relevant somehow remember him guise"

They specifically mention the butterfly is Lavenza in P5 so no reference of him at all.
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>>176277130
>us oldfags amiright XD
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>>176276939
>I 'ironically' have several pictures of fat guys wearing trilbies saved on my computer to post in chinese speaking boards
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>>176277265
>Why the fuck could't P5 have demons
Aren't demons created by people thinking about them in mainline?
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>>176277130
>p3 was about emos and edgelords
>p4 was about early hipsters
>p5 is about autistic phoneposters with no fashion sense whatsoever

I honestly can't tell if this can get worse after this.
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>>176276761
What you going to do anon? Cry?
>>176277427
Wasn't that mostly with IV/IVA though? Maybe SJ with Schwarzvelt.
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>>176277427
More believing then thinking.
Even then they could just change it or whatever for nu-persona.
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>>176277265
Because metaverse. Shit I just want them to improve on P2EP's mechanics instead of trying to copy SMT
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>>176249830
this
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>>176276707
>with actual Nocturne callbacks
Thanks for clarifying that you never actually played Nocturne, cuck.
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Did SMT IV have a hockey mask equipment or am I dreaming about a SMT x Slasher 80s film again?
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This twisted game needs to be reset
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>>176277585
>being this rude AND wrong at the same time

>Samuel is a boss you fight IN the DIET building in nocturne
>Fight a boss named something something Samuel Shido IN the diet building
>Third boss in the Arena is Thor like in Nocturne

There is alot of shit I hate about P5 but lets not shitpost
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>>176277427
demons are digimon coming from their digital devil world m8
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>>176277639
We need to go back to Dogital Devil Story.
Mainline and spinoffs ruined everything.
Maybe even further back.
The White were right
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>>176277585
You know Nocturne staff worked on P5 and specifically put in Nocturne references right?

It's cool if you don't like P5 but I don't know why you'd just lie for the sake of trying to make an argument out of nothing.
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>>176277701
>Samuel

Can we all agree that Persona fanbase is finished at this point? Even P4fags weren't this dumb.
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>>176277727
I thought the app is basically a built-in summoning circle? Raidou summons them with magic too
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>>176277382
>only fat people look bad wearing fedoras, not me
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>>176277803
Megami Tensai 3 fucking when?!
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>Samuel
oh he must'v watched Sirlionhart's LP o Nocturne
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>>176277827
P4 fanbase is all about 24+ yr old chads now, they're much more intelligent than P5fags at this point just by default.
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>>176277841
The app is implied to be created by Yaldy and not an actual app (futaba tries to explain it but just basically says "it's fucking weird i don't know") so yeah it's magic.

>>176277959
>>176277827
It's literally 1 letter off guys give him a break. He's probably a phoneposter or something and got it autocorrected.
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>>176277946
>shitposting this hard
Anon please

>>176277959
How is thei\
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>>176277990
Except P4fags unironically played the shitty spin-offs
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>>176278034
>tfw I have to wait a minute before I can delete my post

How is there like 3 lets play channels of SMT but not a single SMT content maker?
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>>176278030
I mean Nakajima and Stephen's app as well as the stuff they use in Soul Hacker. Or is Yaldy is a mainline figure now?
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>>176278068
>shitty spin-offs
Elaborate. Spin-offs could've been shitty from the perspective of their plots being canon, but otherwise every P4 spin-off was a good game. PQ is gem, DAN is okay dancing game and Arenas were great fightings.
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>fedora posting
>in a fedora general
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>>176278140
what kind of content you want my man?
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>>176278169
The mainline app is a digital version of all the rituals and bindings that go into an actual summoning, but in a much easier to carry format.
It's like carrying an ebook encyclopedia set as opposed to a physical one.
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Wouldn't high level demons take up more space in the summoning program?
I mean high tier pantheon or ancient fits would be massive, I mean Loki couldn't be summoned without a computer room, how would portable laptops even do so with lucifer or others
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>>176278169
A better question is does it matter if they're real demons or cognitive versions of them since the method of summoning them is the same. In Persona it's shown that they can get summoned in and affect the real world.

If the cognitive demiurge can erase the world and remake it isn't he the same thing as the real demiurge?

Seems like people are just arguing over semantics
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>>176278251
I dont know, stupid shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu2op9bM-bo

tickles my fancy alot. Making fun of the game's themes/elements also would work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wS7QEwUbs
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>>176278350
>Loki couldn't be summoned without a computer room

I think it's mostly because Nakajima's first version is un-optimized and requires high specs. Later on he optimize it and can summon high-level with only a laptop
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>>176278391
cognitive selves are not real people even if they look and act like them
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>>176278438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwSZDXr5LU
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Is Nikkari Akira?
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>SMT general
>half the posts are about Persona
really fires them neurons
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>>176278656
It's not the same as a cognitive person because that's 1 persons perception of you.

There's no actual difference between Pixie in SMT, Pixie in Devil Survivor and Pixie in Persona
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>>176278720
You'll see
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>>176278898
Am I Akira?
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>>176278438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USPfmvQnpZ8
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>>176278949
You'll see
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SMT x Crusader Kings when?
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>>176278817
I'm not a persona poster but to be fair P5 just came out and an SMT game hasn't been released in a long time.
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>>176278949
No.

Yes.
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>>176279108
Apocalypse released this last September in America.
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>>176279108
Apocalypse came out last year nigga
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>>176279108
>Responding to a shitpost
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>>176279108
Nobody really wants to talk about Final

There's probably more DeSu talk than that
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>>176278817
>one P5baby talking to himself and samefagging like butthurted child he is
/pg/ leaked, boo fucking hoo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvhsJ1Jhw1w
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>go to general
>get spoiled without asking
>go to SMTG and ask stupid questions
>people don't spoil me
hmm
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>>176279159
>>176279171
A year ago is a long time.

>>176279195
To be honest I would like it if persona posters left, but I just don't think its worth arguing over.

>>176279217
Apocalypse endings were pretty fucking awful, I can't blame anyone for not wanting to discuss it.
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>>176279237
This epic will not be sweet my fucking ass

>>176279246
/smtg/ is cool like that. Other then the obvious you kill your friends stuff, the spoiler stuff is light.
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>>176279217
At least Dagda was great
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>>176279246
Robert Mugabe is the Origami Killer
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>smtfags cry about "muh sikret club stop discussing Peru-sona discuss smt"
>some anon from >>176276971 makes a question about SMT plot
>is ignored

wew you fags sure prefer to whine about Persona and the lack of smt discussion instead of discussing SMT.

Now that I have your attention, is there any drawback to having someone's Mantra at Mastered in Avatar Turner? I'm low on cash and I'd rather save up instead of popping 4000+ Macca every 15 minutes on Gale, but if the AP is just gonna go to waste then he's just gonna have to learn all elements I guess. Does the AP left over from the Mastery go to the other party members?
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>>176279237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBrnD47zpxo

How the fuck DOES opening the gates to let MORE demons in help again walter? How does Jonathon go from, we cant allow toyko to get fucked to, lets nuke toyko? I wish those two would have been the "satan" so to speak and while still being Law/Chaos, want to change it for the better so to say.

>>176279416
>>176276971
Samefag
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>>176279447
Jonathan and Walter are pretty bad alignment reps
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>>176278817
>half the posts are about Persona
Woah really?
I just see a bunch of kids calling Nocturne edgy and SMT dead, until proper megatenfags asks them to fuck off. No wonder really though since they themselves already admitted that P5 is easy as fuck here and therefore not worth discussing even between Pfags.
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>>176276971
>bodysnatcher

Considering how one nuke can ruin the whole world with the amount of retaliation shit going on, I think it's down a slippery slope after the nuke launch

As for how Thorman nuke shit, he's fucking Thor. Fucker probably beat up the president
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>>176279447
Jonathan just wanted to protect his homeland, nobody in tokyo gives a fucking shit about mikado and they'd rape and pillage that shit the second they get access.

The sacrifices of few will preserve the rest for eternity.
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>>176279447
are you autistic enough to think I'm the same anon asking that?

why'd I ask something about a different game altogether then lmao
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>>176279416
How about you play the game instead of asking for such retarded questions?

And Its also been a while since I played DDS but how would having some one's mantra at master be anything but good? Other then the time it takes to grind.

>>176276971
We do not know and the game and the protagonist himself does not care
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>>176279246
>fanbase of games about making friends
>everyone is a fucking asshole
>fanbase of games about killing your friends
>everyone is a pretty cool guy
really makes u think
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>>176270595
I actually kind of like these designs, they grew on me.

Not that the originals aren't superior, but they fit well the tone of SMTIV and the creepy non-Euclidean look really makes them seem like biblical descriptions of angels.
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>>176279562
When did Jonathan give a shit about the peasants?

Mikado's government is so fucked up people turn into demons if you give them normal books.
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>>176279584
So we are dissing on /pg/ again? They themselves are aware that they are waifufags already
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>>176279562
You got a point but in the game he does seem to care a bit for them. I am just saying they could have made him into the next Satan. Overthrowing a shit law for a good one.

>>176279537
One of the few things about IV I don't like. the monkey is a fence sitter type of neutral instead of a "fuck yea humanity" type of neutral like SJ/Atsuro
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>>176279573
Because AP isn't given numbers. Therefore I can't just figure it out myself. Having a Mastered Mantra means I can give him something else to learn, but there isn't anything much too useful to gice Gale right now so I don't want to spend the money on nothing. But if the AP he would get from every fight just goes into his already full AP bar, then that's AP that's being wasted, and that tickles my autism
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>>176279668
Isabeau is my favorite character in IV by far. She understands that once you set down a serious path you need to stick to it.
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>>176279584
>>fanbase of games about killing your friends
>>everyone is a pretty cool guy

What world are you living in that you think this is at all true? /pg/ might be waifu wars 24/7 but at least they don't spend their time bitching about another game
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>>176279592
The thing is that Seraph, Metatron and Mastema are in the same game as them. Can't the guest artists be assed to put in some angelic theme on them but still have them remaining alien and weird?
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>>176279447
Jonathan decided to nuke tokyo when he realized they will barge into Mikado and bring in war and demons with them. Ironically the neutral ending brushes over the fact that most people from Mikado will eventually turn into demons since the angels are not around and non YHVH approved knowledge will become widespread amongst them.
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>>176279640
Jonathan cared about the people of mikado before meeting the archangels, but learning of gods plan changed his mind and he made his choice.
He cares about the people of tokyo, but he cares for his people more so.
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>>176279746
>but at least they don't spend their time bitching about another game
P5 nufags are the worst, holy shit. You never was in /pg/ before P5 hitted, admit it. P4fags hated P3fags for ages.
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>>176279652
I'm just commenting on the spoilers thing, because personafags are actually really notorious for spoiling the games for new comers. I don't really care if you have a waifu or not, its just obnoxious when you try and shove it down everyone else's throat with the 'X is best girl and Y girl' is shit stuff.
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>>176279746
>/pg/ might be waifu wars 24/7 but at least they don't spend their time bitching about another game
Yeah we sure love 'em /v/-tier 'Nocturne is edgefest for fedoratippers' hot memes. Fuck off back to your precious hole then.
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>>176279808
P3 vs P4 was debated heatedly since P4 came out and is one of the two things /pg/ do
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>>176279786
That's a shit choice though. There's no way he would have sided with Mikado if he was one of the 0.0001%
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>>176278438
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8eYf3OHqq9s
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what does he give you if you side with him?
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>>176279786
It would have been far more intresting if he would have been satan 2 or something I still feel. There is no way those Toyko fucks can get into Mikado, just set up another uber demon, I have like 20 take 3 fuck it.

>>176279898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va31JGXUmkg&t=88s

People who call mainline edgy have not played mainline I am 100% sure

>>176280109
I am the anon who asked for more SMT content thanks to everyone posting them. I have seen them all already but I love you guys.

This one hurts alot though rip SMT x FE
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>>176280131
If you do not do TDE these choices affect your Reason, in this case it's World of Strength reason
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>>176279746
>/pg/ might be waifu wars 24/7 but at least they don't spend their time bitching about another game
Why would I want to discuss SJ or Nocturne in general about Persona games in the first place? Make your own general about Persona without waifufags or something, call it Megami Ibunroku or some shit. Oh wait, you can't, because the series main point is pandering towards lowest common denominator and nobody gives a shit about the gameplay or story, what a thrill.
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>>176279925
I know i'd nuke a hellhole filled with demons and raiders instead of letting them in to enrich my homeland.
SMTIV's law ending was in the right completely.
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>>176280227
Mikado is full of demons too, not to mention potential ones in the form of slave labor required to keep the rich fat.

>drop my manga on the ground
>suddenly the village responsible for harvesting grain are all demons
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>>176280198
>nobody gives a shit anout the gameplay or story

There are some that discuss it on /v/. Sometimes the story get talked here too
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How do I make an accident demon in IVA that inherits all the moves from the previous demons? Every time I've had an accident fusion so far they inherit a couple skills but also have some of the fused demons innate skills. I'm trying to make a Yoshitsune with Andalucia similar to his Persona version.
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>>176280317
the point of the law ending is to get rid of those factors, with angels helping the kingdom getting rid of magazines should be no problem.
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>>176280503
It'd happen again, there's no point in trying to clean up an inevitability like it's spilled milk.
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>>176280227
>in the right
Well this is correct but in a different sense
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>>176277957
>Atlus hates law
>Nishitani is a lawfag
never ever
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Are the manga/anime in OP the only worthwhile ones? I thought they had a dozen more. Also is it safe to say I should drop P5 if I just got to the fourth palace and haven't really had much fun since the second boss? I'm thinking of selling it and buying Raidou 1 and 2 (maybe a 3DS one too) instead, then maybe play Persona in order if I want to go back it.
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>>176280924
You should try to finish P5, like most persona games it takes a dip in the middle and most of the game is in the last 2 months.

Also I doubt you'd have fun with the first Raidou game. Raidou 2 is pretty good though
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In M2 when and or how do I learn the estoma spell?
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>>176260369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdCFz8qPt8Y
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>>176281178
gay frogs persona when?

I mean other than Heqet
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>>176279584
We will only kill our friends over irreconcilable ideological differences. Until then, we will allow them time you need to come to the correct solution, ie ours.
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>>176260369
IT
JUST
WORKS
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>>176281029
I'll tough it out then. I still want to play Raidou 1 though since I want to physically own more SMT games.
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Guys... I think DeSu2 might be the best RPG ever.
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>>176281803

What makes you think that?
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>>176281803
Its the most replayable megaten game atleast.
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>>176279786
>the people of Tokyo don't turn into demons unless they do drugs
>the people of Mikado turn into demons the moment they gain knowledge over how shirty and unfair their society is
Hoy/Monkey were right. Mikado should be the one getting purged.
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Is hex editing SH a thing yet? I want to use Satanael but he's boss-only.
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>>176281967
That was the biggest what the fuck for me, initially I thought they were some kind of magic book or something she was handing out but she's just a mobile library.
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>>176282278
just play Persona 5 then :^ )
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>>176281803

It's a pretty good one, Ill give you that

my heart ;_;
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>>176282369
FUCKING PERSONACHADS GET ALL THE GOOD SHIT
REEEEEEEEE
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>>176282369
I would if I could.
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>>176267134
t. casual
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>>176282517
old Satanael is pretty rad too
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So when will they show us the next SMT HD teaser? I don't even care if it's something that might not end up in the final game.
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>>176282883
E3 assuming they are actually working on it.
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>>176282883
October.
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>>176281803
Even if you ignore the story and characters, it's only a good game at best.
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>>176282883
>I don't even care if it's something that might not end up in the final game.
That's a really red flag for a monkey paw wish, anon.
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>>176270230
Is this a remake of the first smt?
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I realized something recently.

No one seems to bring up Soul Hackers anymore. There was some buzz when the 3DS version came out, but these days only silence.
Is the game so bad to not warrant any discussion, or is it just so middle of the road SMT game that no one things to bring it up, ever.
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/smtg/, give me your grooviest bass guitar-driven theme.
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>>176287321
P5 has the best bass, Meguro must have been listening to a lot of Duran Duran or something. Life Will Change, Last Surprise and Get Up Get Out all have great bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xQZ1zmxyDk

Go! Raidou has a pretty groovy bass line

there's also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOYwChN0tfM

and of course this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7tHxk9qZY0
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>>176287665
Shoji is a god.
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>>176287665
That is the good shit.
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>>176287665
Absolute garbage, get this shit out of here.
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>>176288936

Feel free to offer alternatives Anon-kun
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>>176287165
It's so average that people kinda forget that game is around. Its dated mechanics attract both fans of the pure dungeon crawling of the SNES era and shitposters claiming it's shit. Personally, outside of demon personalities that fuck up inheritance of skills, the lackluster ending to the story and the lack of customization of MC's skills, it's a great game.
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Oh how I love going for neutral ending on SMT IV.
Some anon here said that one should avoid the optional alignment changing moment with woman doing sudoku.
But looking through a walkthrough it seems that for it's "always pick first option except for few cases" to work, you have to get the +10 from that event.

And now I'm just confused and unsure of everything.
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The Eternal Punishment localization is definitely not "pretty good" like the starter guide says, it has some of the most awkward writing I've ever seen in a JRPG.
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>>176260942
>get alerted there's a fiend in the area
>'will you stay here?'
>yes
>demon shows up
>literally just a dude in a spacesuit with an American Flag and a camera
>proceeds to spam Antichthon until your whole party is dead
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>>176286106

Considering how many things I didn't want ended up in SMTIV and SMTIVA I don't really care at this point.
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>>176292642
even better
>takes off helmet
>it's Kubrick
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What if Jack Frost for Smash.
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>>176260942
>Men in Black demons
When you game over to them, the game just resets from the title screen but your save is altered in numerous subtle ways

>>176292256
>always pick first option except for few cases
Is "except for a few cases" meaning you DON'T pick the first option in certain dialogues? That sounds like a different strategy to the 'always pick first, go left, go Jonathan, pick chaos' strat.
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>>176287165
That's because all buzz was mostly before the game was officially translated. You know, when someone hypes obscure untranslated games but when it actually comes out they turn out to be average.
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>>176294284
Looking at the list, the "destroy status quo" might be only chose where you don't pick the first option.
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I used to think the Vita was the perfect platform for SMT ports since persona 4 golden and the psp/ps1 classics made it very convinient to get into persona (plus 3ds lower res maestro things ugly). Portability plus rpgs always works out
But now with the switch... Wouldn't be too bad to get nocturne, the raidou games and the DS games would it? As ports, rather than remakes
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after analyzing the trailer I just noticed, those are the persona 5 models for all the demons. Especially jack frost since that animation was specifically made for persona 5. While everyone else uses their standard nocturne animation.
So it seems the assets made for persona 5 will be the blue prints for future games in the smt franchise as well.
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Coincidentally, I'm writing a script for a video about the five megaten games that deserve a remake and I'm covering logic reasons like "it would sell well" or "it'll widen up the styles of games offered up". Obviously my number 1 pick is Jack Bros. Also known as the best game noone played, whereas games like smt 1, persona 2 or last bible can be debated on whether or not it's a great game. I genuinely think Jack Bros has mass appeal while still being a great game. My most played megaten game in fact.
What game do you think deserves a remake and why?
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>>176295067
SMT 1 + 2 + if..., Debisama, Giten.
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>>176297614
Mad fujo.
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>>176297690
I'm a straight male. I just like "nice" people. He's so pleasant.
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>>176297614
I'm mad such a bad character was in the game at all.
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>>176297737

Literally a serial killer for profit.

Literally a fake personality that anyone who's not completely retarded saw through (which the characters did literally the first time they met him)
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>>176297737
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Will SMTIV: Apocalypse be going on sale anytime soon and should I play SMTIV first?
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>>176299320
Probably not

Yeah, but you don't really need to
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>>176299320
No and no.
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>>176299320
No and Yes
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>Foomy fucking trumpeters shit up
B
A
S
E
D
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How do I build for SMT IV A?
Mag and Speed?
Just not sure where everything should go in the early levels.
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Why is Io such a fucking best?
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>>176275416
Because its a subseries you damn sperg
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>>176295067
Remakes are shit, play original games fucking plebs.
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>>176299829
Not even the best magic user in the game.
Although she's cute and gets good character development so I'll give you that.
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>>176300661
>not blasting through entire game with Bunny-Io-Fumi Ma trio
Nigger
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>>176299320
no, yes
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>>176299320
Skip Apocalypse, play IV only.
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>>176300661
She's a schoolgirl that isn't phased by anything and is the only one capable of chanelling Loog.
Beat that.
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>>176301070
>that isn't phased by anything
She cried like a bitch when her weakling parents died though.
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>demons do 75% of your/your demons health in one fucking hit early game
Ah, I remember why I fucking hate these games now.
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>>176301552
Literally only one game in the series doing so, git gud.
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>it's a "if MC dies, it's game over" kind of game

For the first time I put a game down because of Mudo. It wasn't a rage quit, it was a gently put it down and not think about it anymore quit, but it still counts, I think. It was SH.


Persona 2 really got it right by not having this problem.

Also
>Love quiz keeps giving me nemissa and lunch
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>>176301762
It's strange that of all the dumb shit in SMT IV, they didn't have this mechanic.
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>>176301762
buy and equip items that null it. i think null dark makes you immune to all instant deaths.
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>>176240493
SMT If... when?
Devil Summoner when?
Majin Tensei when?
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>Here go fight this Level 10 enemy that instakills all of your demons and full heals itself every turn
Wow thanks game, go fuck yourself.
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>demon women are better than human women
Why does this meme keep perpetuating?
>hostile to the slightest accidental slip up like real ones when trying to talk
>fickle like real ones
>will attempt to milk you dry when you're trying to hit on them like human women
>high maintenance like real with macca/mag/item cost and healing
The only one up is that they won't cheat on you until you're dead. And then they could just cast Recarm.
They're both the same. Why shit on human chicks when the only difference is world of origin?
TLDR: Get your own women, Shithead.
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>>176302686
Can I get demon pregnant
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Demon chicks are cuter
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>>176302784
Probably, since Apocalypse confirmed that demons can get human females pregnant.
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>>176303065
What if there's a significant size difference? Can I get Pixie pregnant? Would it be like dogs where the offspring is small enough for the mother to birth?
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>>176245449
Its more active then id assume it'd be
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Post demonfu
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>>176303065
I haven't played SMTIV:A. What's the offspring? Demon, human or a hybrid?
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>>176303368
Fagalujah
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>>176303367
I don't care if she's 10" tall we'd make it work somehow
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>>176303367
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>>176301525
Then forgot about it.
Handled it better than the average person would.
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Is there any point of me playing Strange Journey now or should I just wait for Deep Strange Journey?
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im doing it
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I want to snuggle fenrir.
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>>176303830
Play SJ anyway so you can bitch about all the stuff they changed with DEEP.
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>>176303830
DSJ could be complete garbage for all we know
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>>176303367
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>>176304018
>>176303673
>>176303367
>>176303598
Degenerates
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>>176304254
How is it degenerate to love someone
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>>176304254
Aint nothing wrong with a good demonfu son
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>>176303830
Just wait for DSJ
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>>176304254
Fucking Lawfags.
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>>176303954
How

There is nothing they can add that would ruin it
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>>176304425
Social Links.
They already ruined it by using that garbage artwork though.
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Has anyone uploaded the music for nocturnes asakusa? I like the ambience a lot
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>>176304316
I want the friendship of her thighs.
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>>176304425
How could you possibly ruin an HD remaster of Silent Hill 2 and 3 without even changing the story.
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>>176304487
Even if they DID add social links, do tell how that would ruin whats already a good game?

If they add a new feature that you don't like you can just IGNORE it

Also the art is fine
>>176304585
Thats a completely different thing. They fucked that up because they didn't even have the source code for that game
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>>176304574
Same
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>megami tensei wikia doesn't list devil survivor in the game list
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Is the generic soldier guy with Anthony's sprite in the cutscenes actually him or what?
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>>176304487
>>176304585
Let's give Atlus the benefit of doubt. I mean I hated it when the announce DeSu2 3DS because I thought it only added a new waifu bait and called it a day. But the port was actually pretty good and the new arc was nearly half the original's route content. Same with other re-releases like the EO: Untold series.

The only time they screwed up was Marie, and that only because the character itself is shit. And not because of other refinements to the game.
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>>176304656
>Even if they DID add social links, do tell how that would ruin whats already a good game?
SLs could completely discharacterize some or all characters and attract the wrong crowd to SJ's fanbase.

>If they add a new feature that you don't like you can just IGNORE it
Oh, you're one of those faggots. No more (You)s for you then.
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>>176290394
So that's how Smile Charge looks like.
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>>176304908
This persona is not sweet.
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>>176304979
>The only time they screwed up was Marie, and that only because the character itself is shit. And not because of other refinements to the game.
I think the worst about P4 Golden wasn't Marie but the fact that they added a weakness to Shadow Yukiko. I can't believe they actually did that and there are people that welcomed that in an already easy as fuck game.
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>>176305193
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>>176305236
Why is she so cute
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>clacking intensifies
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>>176287165
This guy nails several pointst
>>176291406

I like it a lot, used to talk about it while playing it, and I always tend to answer questions anyone may have about the game.
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>>176303367
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>>176305380
Clacking + School Days = best noise
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>>176295067
Certainly not Jack Bros.

The Jacks should get a new spin-off game instead.
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>>176300732
Wouldn't Airi be better, since she focuses on stats that are actually useful for a mage rather than having STR as her second best stat?
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>>176304425
>fucking up difficulty curve to the point where it's too easy or too hard
>new demons are all high level like how most of the good endgame ones are in the 80's with no exp accommodation on regular routes
>all the new shit is locked to that route
>new route may have a shit end like non neutral ones
>keep random distribution
>Co-OP is unfixed
>no new NG+ content like Demiurge
>no new sidequests
>DLC.
>redraws fuck up Louisa and Mastema
There are ways but I don't think atlus will fuck up. I really don't
I just want my apps to pass on to NG+. The dark zone mapper was shit as you already got it too far in that it's unessesary
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>>176305590
what about Slime Rancher but with Jack species instead of slime species
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>>176305569
And then here's where everybody quits the game since they don't talk to Mark about where the Hospital is.
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>>176305387
I wonder how much SH 3DS sold anyway? Despite the flaws, I wish we got some sort of continuation or spiritual sequel since the story kinda ended in a cliffhanger.
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>>176305097
You can't just IGNORE things you dont like?
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>>176303368
Demi kids
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>>176305210
>but the fact that they added a weakness to Shadow Yukiko
WHO

CARES
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>>176305380
Not gonna lie, it's one of my favorite things about that game.
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>>176305970
>who cares about things I don't care?
Pretty pathetic, anon. I understand that it's a pretty minor thing and you DON'T CARE, but I kinda do and I thought it was depressing they thought it was a good idea. Gives a glimpse of the Persona crowd's average skill in RPGs.
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>>176306198
They gave the FIRST FUCKING BOSS a weakness

Why do you give a shit
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>>176305210
Persona is the Dark Souls 3 of SMT, so you shouldn't feel surprised in the slightest.
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>>176306240
Are you seriously not understanding what you're reading and writing? Adding a weakness to the first fucking boss was considered a good idea, was implemented and welcomed by several of the fanbase. Do you really fucking not understand what that means?
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>>176306390
That you're a whiny bitch?
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>>176305829
Oh boy. The story of SH actually moved forward with a mobile sequel, but it went places that are better off forgotten.
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>>176306423
>hey guyz what can ruin the game?
>that doesn't count because I don't care about that
>WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE REE
Is this what /smtg/ has become?
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>>176243096
>>176243219

People joke, but I mean, this is anime. Most "young" girls are drawn identically to adults anyways. So she could just as easily be a semi short person who isn't underage. Its not like there aren't real girls who are short. And demons even moreso. Pixie is obviously just not normal size.
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>>176306457
Do tell.
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>>176306608
It was something about Hacker reuniting with Hitomi and getting rid of the last demons in Amami City, but then dies like a bitch, is cloned, and the clone defeats the big bad.
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>>176306240
>>176306390
>>first boss
It's like the third you dips.
On one hand it's still an early-mid game boss, weaknesses are fine if difficulty is apparent
On the other hand, casual as hell. Boss is beatable, difficulty is fine unless you're sense at that point.
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>>176306590
If you actually think giving the first boss a weakness is GAME RUINING then you are just a little fucking bitch
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>>176307124
Shadow Yosuke and Shadow Chie are barely even fights, let alone bosses.
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>>176307124
*youre dense.
Granted, a lot of people are dense, even on this board
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>>176307124
>it's still an early-mid game boss
You mean early, there is nothing mid about it. Its the first fucking dungeon.
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>>176307124
It's the first actual boss though. Previous ones don't really count.

>>176307126
I'm not saying it ruins the fucking game. I'm just saying it's a bad sign of what Atlus wants to do with the series, mainline and spin-offs.
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>>176307126
It's not game ruining, but it is shameless casualization to a boss that is perfectly beatable as long as you pay attention to what is going on.

And it's a bad sign that if casuals complain too much about a certain boss, Atlus is willing to nerf it.
You keep calling the anon dense, but I can't even imagine what kind of shitstorm the general and most SMT fans would have if Atlus nerfed Matador for a Nocturne remake.
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>>176250263
No, lol. There's less serious discussion here because its easier to shitpost people into oblivion, which people are less likely to do with only one account where they will be the one who looks stupid.
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>>176307124
Teaching player how game works and then throwing that out of the window in the first fight where performance matters is not good game design.
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>>176307747
Finally. Thank you anon, I thought I was the only one thinking like that.
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>>176287165
Late post but I liked it its just, compared to like, other megatan games its aight. Its worth it though if you are thinking of buying it
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>>176308012
>>176307747
bitches
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>>176307975
>then throwing that out of the window
How? By giving a boss a weakness? That's how the game is supposed to be you fucking idiot. Bosses without weaknesses should be reserved for extra optional NG+ endgame only.
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>>176308034
I already bought it, it's 10 euros and I basically save that up by not being fat for two days, so it's whatever investment.
I just got curious of how little people mention it anymore.
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>>176308227
I was defending the weakness, you dumpskull.
Also bosses without weaknesses are fine, but it should not be among first ones, but more on the mid game and onward, after player gets some options and has had time to learn how to use the options available.
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>>176308242
You will have fun with it.
Then again there alike like, only 2 or so megatan games I did not have fun with at all so maybe am biased.
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>>176308242
I bought it for 35€ and didn't regret it a bit anon. Have fun and post here if you have any questions and shit.
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>>176307975
>>176308429
This

Remember that P4 didn't even have a design document and the team admits the game was poorly planned.
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is gideon zhi a bad hacker?
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>>176308952
yes
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>>176307975
Quite the opposite actually.

It teaches that you can't just rely on exploiting weaknesses to win; S. Yosuke and Chie were already easy fights with weaknesses, so they got that part of the game covered. I know P4 is ultra casual, but even its major bosses don't (or didn't) have weaknesses; telling players otherwise with Shadow Yukiko creates false expectations, and has the potential to fuck over players' playthroughs, because they might decide to stick to lesser tiers of spells in order to save SP and then get fucked over by Shadow Kanji where you already had to invest a good 20-30 hours into the game.

If they wanted to casualize S. Yukiko, they only needed to add an extra dialogue line where Teddie tells Chie to block whenever Yukiko charges up an attack, it was that simple.
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>>176308661
>believing Atlu's lies
C'mon. How about P3 which had good balance? Or SMT IV with its terrible balance? Or IV: Final which is easy as fuck? What's the excuse on those?
Shadow Yukiko was more than beatable in the vanilla P4. Atlus just caved in on the complains by casuals that were attracted by the SLs instead of the actual game. It's not a game ruining modification per se, but it's bad omen of what's to come.
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>>176308952
https://twitter.com/GideonZhi/status/857634240669798400
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>>176309110
>C'mon. How about P3 which had good balance? Or SMT IV with its terrible balance? Or IV: Final which is easy as fuck? What's the excuse on those?
Here's an easy answer for these and many other questions.
Game development is really fucking hard! It's easy to look games with hindsight and think solutions to pander to you and only you, but to build a full good game that actually sells, because fucking money is still a thing, it's really really really fucking hard.
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>>176309110
>P4 didn't have a design document
>a lie
What

Why would they say this if it isnt true.
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>>176309009
>gideon zhi
why gideon zhi have many unfinish project ?
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>>176309220
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>>176309668
Cause he sucks

The second he runs into a snag he just starts a new project
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>>176309364
I know it's fucking hard. I'm just saying Atlus already did good balancing and terrible balancing. But Atlus wanted to milk P4, and what better way to just go "ups, sorry, we didn't have a design plan sorry about the shit balance!" and make their fault go away?

>>176309406
I know it's a fallacious as fuck, but can you prove they didn't had one? I'm sorry, but I can't believe they didn't have some sort of overall design document for a 80 hours RPG/VN hybrid with a calendar system that just reuses the previous entry's engine. It's simply too convenient.
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>>176309220
Can't some one else start if... then? Why can't he just let us play it,as it is, then have another twitter for actual game stuff instead of policitcs, then people would write there the problems and he fixes it as he goes. Wtf he released SMT I which you can't even go law route
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>>176309742
There is more proof that they didnt then that they did

My proof is the very words of the developers, you have literally nothing.
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>>176309220
GideonZhi twitter, lot of political talk(trump hate)
no game update news
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>>176310314
Of course he is a trump hating cuck
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>>176304736
You're looking at Shin Megami Tensei games only though. Devil Survivor is Megami Ibunroku in Japan.
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>>176310205
>my proof is the words of the defendant
Simply brilliant anon. 10/10
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>>176310314
>>176309220
Is Gideon the Spoony One of SMT?
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>>176310809
>>176310809
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>>176310484
Once again, its more then what you have
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