Fighting Games General /fgg/

>>176180038
nice OP

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>>176179987
spicy boyz along with every good anon

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I need you, stinky tomboy!

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play boatcolle ichiban fightan

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Put Eaternatty in next 2hu fighter

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WOOOHOOO
www.early2017.com

>>176180239
Did the stinky boat guy die? I hoped and prayed he would.

>>176180186
lmao

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fighting games are fun

>>176180304
he is clearly right here >>176180186

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Maybe I should get Rev2 and Tekken7 on PC
All my Japanese games are coming on PC now and I could sell my PS4 and not pay for PS+ anymore

>>176180172
Good man.

>>176180239
>no atago

Not interested.

fighting games need more flat

>>176180493
flat what?

>>176180368
awoo

>>176180368
awoo~

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>>176180038

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I want to get into UNIEL and main High IQ. What am I in for?

>>176180545
chests

>>176180368
do you have anyone to play with on pc, though

>Texas showdown is over
>Chen comes to sniff post
Fucking Chen

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>>176180493
play uniel

>>176180646
Do I have anyone to play with on PS4?

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>>176180493
Ew.

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>>176180634
The complex art of holding and releasing buttons for stein pressure in the corner.

Seriously though, use this, it's helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7RoznZ0mss

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unga gorillamash bunga ex.dp

>>176180646
>900p
>can't reduce native input delay
lmao

I literally lol at people that play fighting games in march of 2017. Only one game isn't dead and it's trash. It's time to bury the genre and move on

>>176180858
holy shit.....
#falldown

>>176180634
easy life.

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Remember to have fun playing videogames of the fighting genre.

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when I buy Injustice 2 will fgg play with me?

>>176180493
flat but fat booty and washboard abs

>>176181132
Honestly no man, NRS isn't my jam. Best of luck though, it'll probably sell well.

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>>176181132
No

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>>176181164

>>176181306
no blondes please

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i made this really funny edit of this gaijin webcomic credit me if you post it to rkappa thx

>>176181132
better buy it day one because in 2 weeks literally no one will be playing it with you

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Play guilty

don't play slayer

>>176181467
By then goty tekken will be out anyway

>>176181542
Slayer looks like the best character though with kum being second.

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>>176181254
yes

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>>176181552
which is already dead pre release

>>176181636
Agreed said that because I don't want to play any more of them.

I've run into some very good Kums but don't know anyone who plays him to train with and it happens infrequently enough that I have to take notes from youtube streams whenever I come across.

>>176180760
Thanks

thank you for killing my favorite game genre capcom
looking forward to you dancing on its grave with mvci

>>176182009
does everything have to be about you?

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Kazumi looks like a hot mature woman but I'm not sure I want to play a woman who had sex with Heihachi

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>Post yfw Wolfkrone wins Eleague

>>176182009
It brought them into this world and it can take them out. Jokes aside though fighting games are fine you fucking drama queen.

how do i play ky

>>176181132
What's the point of giving the women sexy bodies and skimpy clothes if you're going to give them ugly faces?

>>176181132
If you get it on xbone or the eventual PC release.

>>176182118
>fighting games are fine
according to who? a random online shitter? tournament attendance is the only real gauge of the life of the fgc, and evo is where it lives and dies. guaranteed 100% that sfv at evo this year has fewer entries than the last year of sf4
not to mention local scenes dying everywhere with nlbc numbers dropping to embarassing levels

>>176182137
f.S, 6P, yrc stun edge

>>176182336
forgot your trip

>>176182137
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h0OBcFGQVP3eBB2zsYla6lYHzXlvVe4T9YEda-BY6hM/edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xour-5Hheis

>>176182336
Evo had record breaking number last year iirc. They're just the most fine and you're a drama queen.

>>176182405
nice reply.
sf4 numbers went up literally every year
sfv has already tanked after one.
explain this

>>176182475
SFV numbers also spiked way past SF4 numbers in its first year.
Explain this

>>176182551
SF4 numbers spiked way past SF3. New game smell

>>176182434
forgot to mention
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/02/guilty-bits-xrd-ky/

>>176182336
lmao stop bitching and play another game

>>176182437
>Evo had record breaking number last year iirc
evo has had record breaking numbers every year up until now. they're in the shitter this year
>>176182551
new game hype that's already gone and taken veterans with it

>>176182624
>new game hype that's already gone
yeah now its going back to SF4 numbers.

>>176182612
why would I play a dead game?
>>176182665
BELOW sf4 numbers
very fucking important difference
and even if they were just dropping to sf4 numbers, that's embarassing

>>176182290
how are they ugly

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Any Tekken players willing to help out someone relatively new? Trying to get KBD (backdash canceling) down.

Watched plenty of tutorials. Fee like I'm doing it right with my hands, and my inputs are all correct (back back downback neutral, then just back down back neutral over and over), but it just doesn't seem to be working. Character is just going back a small bit before the crouch cancel happens.

Any idea what I could be doing wrong?

>>176182746
>and even if they were just dropping to sf4 numbers, that's embarassing
no?

>>176182829
what do you mean no? do you think that a net of 0 new players is a good look for the flagship series in the genre?

>>176182776
probably not going from down back to neutral to back fast enough so the command interpreter loses the buffered back you get when you downback
1~5~4

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>>176180038

>>176182907
Yeah?
You're saying that fighting games are dying because they arent growing infinitely.

You're also blaming the death of the genre on a single game.
What are the other franchises doing?

You're generally retarded.

is it even possible for capcom to bounce back with sfv

>>176182829
dropping to sf4 means it's stale/stabilized growth, which is not a good thing when you are injecting all this prize money and putting it on tv. you know what happens when your heart stops beating? you die

>>176183081
Adding Ingrid would do it

>>176183117
What a shit analogy you just pulled there.
You basically said that you need to increase blood pressure to stay alive.

>>176182776
your inputs are not correct.

including neutral (n) inputs, it should be:
b, n, b, db, b, n, b, db, b, etc
or
(b, n, b, db) repeat

as in you swing to down-back while holding the 2nd back input, then quickly return to back, as this will be the first back input in the next backdash while still blocking the entire time.

>>176182624
Little early to call it dude. You're talking like evo has already flopped when it has yet to happen.

>>176182995
>fighting games are dying because they arent growing infinitely
nice reading comprehension. They're dying because tournament attendance accross the board is tanking. it would be one thing if the numbers were the same, but they're lower than the year before the new game spike.
what term would you use to describe a genre thats constantly hemmorhaging players?

>>176183260
>because tournament attendance accross the board is tanking.
Which is not true.

>>176183260
Can you wait until the 4 new fighting to come out first before you call the genre dead

>>176183176
People also forget EVO numbers were basically false numbers because reg was dirt cheap the first few weeks.

1/3 of all Pokken players were no shows and 1/5 of Jive was no shows for example

>>176183175
Ooooohhh. That makes sense, nothing I read mentioned having to do another B after DB before returning to neutral. That may be my problem. Thank you.

Why is SFV so perfect bros?

>>176183175
no, 4415 415xN is acceptable, this is what the creator of that one korean video posted as a reply. it's like IAD where when you press 9 you buffer the 6 input so you only have to do 56 instead of 566 or 656.

>>176183290
you can say that if you want but it doesn't make it true. just fucking pull up the challonge pages for nlbc, wnf, etc and compare the numbers to the end of sf4
>>176183348
only sf decides the life of the entire fgc. anyone that tells you that something other than a new sf can save us is a 16er

>a game where simply moving has to be trainingboared
tekken is so shit

I wish Akiha cucked me...

>>176183546
nice brick post

>>176183546
>Difficulty is a bad thing
It's okay, anon. Just stick with SFV. No one will blame you.

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>>176183546
>its the last 3D fighter alive
Soul Calibur had to die for this garbage.
It had to die even though 5 kicked TTT2s ass in sales on a shoestring budget when it was rushed out in less than a year.

>>176183546
>sidestep cancelling is hard
>dashing without a button macro is hard
t. brick

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Tekken = Smash

Texas Showdown 2015 USFIV entrants: 220
Texas Showdown 2017 SFV entrants: 236

>>176183671
Artificial difficulty which is a waste of time and doesn't translate into anything else

>>176183546
KBD is the easiest shit, you just gotta get used to it.

>>176183818
DEAD GAME
DEAD GENRE

>>176183764
Absolutely. Play it all you want but it's not meant to be taken seriously.

>>176183834
Artificial difficulty is also the term people use when something is hard that they don't want to be hard, so they make it seem like it's a fact that it shouldn't be.

>>176183764
Smash and NRS

>>176183681
i really don't get why they haven't brought SC back yet

>>176183520
>only sf decides the life of the entire fgc

wrong that belongs to smash

>>176183436
link? i've never seen that work and it has never worked for me in tag 2 or previous tekken games.

>>176183546
i mean that's every game that isn't sf.

>>176183818
sixteen people. six fucking teen
it's disgraceful for a new game in a series. I genuinely feel bad for the people who have high hopes for the immediate future. Maybe this dark age will make capcom make sf6 a good game

>>176183818
TXS 2016: 512
lol

>>176184161
>backpedaling this hard
lmao

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>>176184248
backpedalling how?

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>>176184161

>>176184142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtwwejuRAx8

>>176184173
Why did they have that spike?

>>176184248
>>176184382
it would be nice if you subhumans could read the posts before that one.
see>>176183260
16 people is not an increase. you can lose or gain that many people by holding the tournament on a different weekend, which you all would know if you'd ever been to one

>>176184014
Competent developers would fix that in future versions. Execution barrier to move like that is horrific design and doesn't add actual depth to the game.

>>176184161
SFV in its final year will be pretty good then we'll move to shitheap SF6

>>176184512
you said it was lower than usf4 days and it's clearly not you fucking retard

how do you have the audacity to link to a post that doesn't even further your argument?

>>176183818
>>176184173
When you look at it like this it does look bad

>>176184594
>and it's clearly not
one single tournament with virtually identical attendance (while losing more than half from the previous year) proves me wrong. again, what do you have to gain by taking this position?

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Sf6 when?
Sf5 fixed edition when?

>>176184759
i'm tired of you mouthbreathers crying every waking minute about how sfv is ruining your lives

give it a fucking rest

>>176184514
it's not like you literally can't move without it. If you're a casual you don't need to learn. If you want to put more time into the game it isn't that hard to learn. It does add depth.

>>176184393
read the inputs at 0:50. he does b, n, b, db, n, b, and a backdash doesn't come out. he does it again a couple times and it doesn't come out. you need to have the back input there when you come out of downback.

i think what he means is on a korean stick, if you just tap db, the circle gate and quick return to neutral makes it so easy that you just tap db and it goes to back, then neutral.

you see when he holds the stick to downback, it doesn't hit the back input and causes the error, which is because holding it down prevents the stick from snapping to back before trying to get back to neutral. so i think he means that's how you move your (korean) stick, and he's misinterpreting the game's inputs, because it clearly shows that when the does the kbd correctly, it's only when the inputs are b,n,b,db,b,n,b.

>>176184883
He's a tournament player and that's his only source of income so his life depends on it. He has the right to bitch.

>>176182137
Use your sweet normals + stun edge to keep people out. Convert stray hits into combo into either knockdown->seal->Heavy Stun Edge, or into a Vapor Thrust Loop.

>>176184883
i know you picked up this hobby last year, so you don't really know what it feels like to see it crash down after the miraculous revival from sf4, so I'll give you a pass.
It's sad to see this happen to something I've been a part of since childhood. I'm just not gonna cover my eves and pretend it isn't happening

>>176184764

SFV is perfect already you fucking goober

>>176185116
lmao

>>176185116
lol

How does Tekken even hope to attract normies or casual crowd, even with all the waifus and titties and butts, when it's SO GODDAMN HARD EVEN AT A BASIC LEVEL

That's why Capcom is successful with their fighters.

>>176185071
I hope you're joking.

>>176185116
SFIV was shit on pretty terribly when it released. IIRC so was SF3.

>>176185042
i already told you why that's happening, db counts as a back input
>441 41 41 하다가 14 14로 된다 그러셨는데 1n4인가요 아니면 14n인가요??
>441 41 41 41 로 하는데 히스토리에는 왜 자꾸 414 414 414로 되나영...

>>176185116
>if street fighter dies they all die!

t. capcuck drone
How does ono's penis taste btw?

>>176181197
Reminder that SFV easily outsold Injustice in less than a month.

Don't believe vgchartz people. Injustice is super niche and only relevant in the US.

>>176184014
Kbd still looks my students having a seizure midday all these years. Why haven't they give it a good looking animation when you do it.

It's like if you can "run" kof style in sf4 but it looked jank as fuck since your character was stuck in their dash/pre dash animation on some random frame but they kept that in sf5 without even refining it.

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>>176185176
>SFV is perfect

Hahahahaha

>>176183834
artificial difficulty? you mean like special move motions? super motions? combos?

if you want to get better at something, you practice it. i don't see the big deal. anything that you can and should practice before going into any match can be called artificial difficulty.

>>176185285
it doesn't matter if people shit on it as long as the scene is healthy. this time the game is so bad that the shitting comes with leaving
>>176185325
16er spotted. go to a tournament one day that isn't running sf and then tell me that it isn't true

>>176185265
how could you even doubt it for one second

what the FUCK

>>176185329
Injustice sold 3m copies

>>176185305
In training mode in TTT2 if my notation reads as B-DB B-DB B-DB after the initial backdash nothing comes out

>>176185305
then why is it that when he holds downback and the game doesn't show he hit a back input, he doesn't end up backdashing again? even from crouching, if you slide to back and then neutral and then back, you should backdash out of crouch. so why isn't it happening?

>>176185116
roflcopter!

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>tfw you get destroyed
>tfw you figure out what you did wrong
>tfw you rematch the guy and destroy him even harder

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>>176185398
You're so set in your retarded ways that you don't understand the scene COULD grow around another game if we actually support it and get people into it. You won't do that though. You'll just be stubborn, complain about sfv, and blame Capcom while fighting games as a whole "die" (p.s. they're not dead).

>>176185261
TTT2, a spinoff made mostly for hardocre gamers, that Namco didn't even care to promote outside Japan has sold 1.5M in 3 months, becoming the 2nd best selling fg spinoff ever after the original TTT. and that was before the super successful "Revolution" and the WIIU/XBONE versions boosted sales.

A spinoff that low ranked casuals still play 5 years later on a last-gen console.

Imagine what a main numbered Tekken can do.

>>176183834
Games are nothing but artificial difficulty, go play sportsball if you don't like it.

>>176185507
No one cares. Take it to sgg.

>>176183834
>Artificial difficulty which is a waste of time and doesn't translate into anything else

StarCraft II taught us all that "artificial difficulty" can make or break a game. Being able to select hundreds of units and multiple buildings made the game a snorefest where two people could control battles with a handful of clicks and keystrokes instead of, you know, actually being good. Because of that, for all except the very top players, the outcome of matches hinged only on economy.

Games should avoid tedious difficulty, but they need to be difficult.

>>176185398
Okay. I'll go back in time to Genesis 4, KI CUP, anime ascension, kvo x tsb and tell you it isn't true.

>>176185461
because you're not doing it fast enough so it loses the buffer, it's the same reason why if you don't do 956 fast enough you get no IAD. also for fun I tried 4451 541 541 in GG and it lets me backdash multiple times in a row too
>>176185480
because if you hold downback too long you lose back in the buffer

WCW 2015 sf4 entry: 169
WCW 2017 sfv entry: 171

>>176185398
Would we call what the SF3 scene was healthy? SF4 was a big period of growth, but I think that was more to do with the resurgence of the genre itself than the game in question.

>>176185261
casuals can have fun mashing buttons in tekken

>>176185595
>no fighting games on the fighting game general
ok thread police

>>176185674
WCW 2016: 328

>>176185623
SC2 taught us that Blizzard has no clue on how to up the skillcap except with micro gimmicks.

>>176185261
basic level tekken is simple, actually.

use 10-15 strong moves. remember to block during your backdash. don't walk/hold forward, just dash and sidestep/walk. break throws with punch buttons. things that look punishable are punishable, things that look + on block are indeed + on block.

>>176185674
HEMORRHAGING PLAYERS ACROSS THE BOARD

>>176185623
Lol no Starcraft 2 died because they pondered too the hardcore too much and neglected so much of everything else until it was too late.

>>176185447
Not if you look at actual sales data from NPD, PAL and Media create charts . Again, DO NOT believe vgchartz. Injustice only did 400k first in month in America and bombed WW.

There's no way it has sold like MK9, not when the latter actually needed open with 1M copies in America alone to even surpass 3M LTD. and MK9 was way more popular ww than Injutice.

>>176185732
Skullgirls general. It's a place for people like you that enjoy and play it often. USE IT

>>176185674
you keep posting these and proving my point
>>176185645
did you just unironically namedrop a smash tournament? the discussion is about the fgc. and go ahead and compare those other glorified locals to the numbers for real majors
>>176185553
>you don't understand the scene COULD grow around another game if we actually support it and get people into it.
yeah no fucking shit. and there would be no crime if people would just decide to stop doing it

>>176185805
This, they should've gone for the cosmetic unlocks to promote playing the fucking game and let the muh aesthetics fags on teamliquid suck it up.

>>176185648
even if i tap downback and cleanly get to neutral, the backdash never comes out. it must hit back. there's no leniency here, that is how a backdash is input. if there were leniency, i'd have many mistakenly input backdashes.

he literally does it in the video. at the same timestamp. the same rhythm of his stick movement. the input reader shows he misses back, he doesn't get the 2nd backdash. he hits it, he gets it. all while doing the same rhythm. so he's clearly doing it within the supposed buffer, since he does it in the same rhythm, but it never comes out when he misses the input during the buffer.

>>176185906
>yeah no fucking shit. and there would be no crime if people would just decide to stop doing it
can someone tell me if I'm dumb or did he just write a ridiculous analogy?

im glad sfv is dying desu

>>176185805
I didn't say that's why it died. I said that's why it was fucking boring to play and watch, whereas Brood War is still entertaining. SC2 clearly died because it couldn't compete with casual games like League, especially when they launched with a horrible custom map scene.

>>176185782
yes they are. see>>176185747
evo sfiv had 1000 players in 2009 and then 1800 in 2010

>>176185956
https://youtu.be/g07Seu_it1g?t=134
441 41

>>176185880
Yeah but he can still post here if he wants to. Noone spergs out at BB or KoF players for posting here, calm down.

>>176185810
>I don't like the numbers so I don't believe them
Everyone gives VG charts shit but its the only thing we have to go on besides Injustice had a price drop and a GOTY edition with all the DLC why is it so hard to believe 3 million bought it? People love DC

>>176185969
you may be retarded if you don't see why the analogy works in response to the bullshit I replied to
>we could rebuild around another game if people would just rebuild around another game

Injustice 2 is a much more polished game than the original injustice. I expect it to surpass 2 million in sales by the end of the year.

>>176186106
who cares look at inputs in-game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtwwejuRAx8&t=1m27s

he misses it twice near the end because he missed the back inputs. this is a thing with korean sticks that fling to back really easily on the way to neutral. you literally cannot initiate a back dash without doing the motion b,n,b.

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>sfv is dying because tournament numbers

LMAO get that ass banned

tournaments are nowhere near important now as they were back in the old days. tournaments now are only for socializing and for the tiny percentage that actually wants a shot at the capcom cup.

online is all that matters and SFV is very healthy a year and three months after release. There are rookies picking up the game every day. There are tons and tons of players down in rookie/silver and the higher ranks are also very populated. matchmaking times are fast even though matchmaking is fucked right now

stay mad kusobeggars. SFV and MvCI are going to be the only relevant fighting games for years

so whats the league equivalent nowadays

plat is the new silver? diamond is super plat now? whats the if youre not [league] you get some green text thrown your way

>>176186305
>>we could rebuild around another game if people would just rebuild around another game
What's wrong with that? There are other popular fighting games. The player base is there, now convince people you know that play them to work towards playing on a competitive level. Scene grows. That's how smash came up. Host locals and be nice to your regulars, they'll bring more people in themselves.

>>176186359
since you're still not understanding what is going on: what you are seeing in the input history is the buffered back from downback. when you don't do it fast enough it is no longer in the buffer and thus no longer shows up in the input history

>>176186438
everyone uses the "i don't play ranked" OS anyway

>>176186438
10k LP is about where 3kPP was in sf4
in other words, super plat = competent but not good

>>176186379
didn't someone post some online numbers that were pretty sad yesterday? i don't know source so it may have been fake

>>176186379
>SFV
>online

LMAO

>>176186196
People love DC but not everyone love fighting games. So, I should take vgchartz seriously but not hard numbers from official and reliable sources? that site says TTT2 sold something like 900k when Namco officially announced it did 1,5 by early 2013. So what is the truth?

and why Boon never talked about Injustice sales when he is always so quick when it comes to announce every MK milestone.

>>176186305
>>176186487
what are you rebuilding? the tournament scene? fighting games aren't dead. plenty of players online. tekken and Injustice sell well. sfv is still healthy. tournament scene is entirely separate entity. if you think genre is dead you're probably retarded.

>>176186494
except that doesn't happen. you can go completely cleanly from back, tap downback extremely briefly, and go straight to neutral, then press back, and not get a backdash. i am literally doing this right now. so if the back input really is stored, this shouldn't be possible.

>>176186575
if they're non-steam numbers then they're fake, and steam numbers are only a smart part of SFV's population. Like 90% of the sales were on PS4.

also, you don't need to look at numbers. just play online and you'll see for yourself that the online population is very healthy.

>>176185389
>you mean like special move motions?
those motions aren't overly complex or difficult. they're functionality mapped to a command+button due to limitations of the control scheme. kbd fails to fall under any of that.
>super motions?
same as above. new players can rattle off the motions but with little practice but they will not be able to kbd.
>combos?
nothing to say here because the difficulty isn't artificial.

>>176185982
Nobody uses custom maps to gamedev these days.
Why would you use blizzard map tool when you could be using Game Maker or Unity that are just as simple.

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>>176186575
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>people replying to this guy memeing about SFV and how ALL fighting games are dead/dying.

>>176186869
Pc gamers don't play fighting games, more news at 11.

>>176186354
Probably it will perform better than the original but don't forget that in 2013 it didn't have any competition. This time is different.

>>176186494
But in every video of people KBDing with notations on they DO get the back notation in the viewer

>>176186950
Keep telling yourself that sonycuck.

>>176186819
why special motions instead of a special button? it being a motion is artificially difficult. just add extra buttons.

kbd also takes just a little practice to give you more options. you can play fighting games without special moves, and you can play tekken without kbd. the hard part of kbd, like combos, special moves, and supers, is using it in a match when you need to, and using it effectively instead of mindlessly.

>>176185982
They never fucking cared about balancing for three races and Terran play was the most boring shit ever. Blizzard is horribly inept at everything but art, psychology, and marketing.

Looking back however, it's amazing that 40+ minute matches were considered reasonable as an esport. I guess it's still the same with DOTA maybe but I couldn't care less about that shit. I feel like there could be a niche for an RTS game whose rounds at longest would be 15-20 minutes

>>176187025
I'm an idort, I'm just not dumb enough to buy my fighting games on my pc. Pc is for total war and shooters.

>>176186692
>So, I should take vgchartz seriously but not hard numbers from official and reliable sources?
You have no hard number though that's the fucking point
>that site says TTT2 sold something like 900k when Namco officially announced it did 1,5
It says TT2 sold 1.4 mil
>and why Boon never talked about Injustice sales when he is always so quick when it comes to announce every MK milestone.
Just because Boone didn't mention the sales doesn't mean anything.

>>176187025
don't you have some assfaggots to grind, PCfat?

>>176187086
You don't even know what the population is like on console.

>>176187086
>pickles is the "fighting games are not dead" idiot
least surprising reveal of the year

>>176187209
I don't even know who pickles is. My first thought was Rugrats.

>>176187201
No I don't, but how much would you bet that it's higher than pc? I get games within 30 seconds usually, and turning crossplay off makes no noticable difference in that time.

>>176187201
much higher than PC seeing as how the game sold way more on ps4 than on pc.

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Is Dragunov good for beginner?

>more people bought the game on console so it means more people play it online
lmao

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>>176187293
Isn't pickles this guy

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>>176187209
lol?

>>176187201
when v league was active you could see the amount of active players on PS4, very well eclipsed PC

>>176187396
>failing elementary school math
oh no he's retarded..

which cpu in xrd jumps a lot?

im trying to practice anti airs and i dont have any friends to play with

>>176187417
Dunno dude. I'm in my late 20s, I watched rugrats as a kid not spongebob. Spongebob is what my little brother liked so I was contractually obligated to call it gay and never watch it.

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>>176187393
I'm beginning to think every one of these "is ___ Tekken character good for a beginner?" posts is made by people who already play Tekken and know the answer to it.

>>176187417
that's highwaystar

Should I play Alisa or Eliza in Tekken 7

>>176187452
really? where? pic?
>>176187496
you missed out on one of the greatest american cartoons you damn bonehead. watch the first three seasons, you'll still appreciate it.

>>176187102
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/may/13/injustice-gods-among-us-sold-424000-copies-united-states-only-april-release-sell-over-250000-units/

Happy? As opposed to MK9 that opened with almost 1M copies there, and that performed way better in Europe. Asia is irelevant since NRS fighters don't even chart there.

TTT2 is still wrong and stilll outdated.

>>176187524
this fighting game meme is older than you. lurk a little longer before posting

Are there any fighting game characters that rock the salt and pepper look

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>>176187201
PC players make up roughly 17% of SFV's player base.

PC gamers barely play games and I say this as someone who has been PC only for like 5 years now.

>>176187473
learn to use training mode. You can set the dummy to standing, crounching, jumping. You can program the dummy as well using by default L3 and R3. One of them puts you in recording standby mode and switches to that character, press that button again to record frames. After it records you get switched back to the character you started with and you can hit the other _3 button to have it play back that slot. There might be more shortcuts, you can have 3 slots recorded at a time.

Do you guys think Tekken 7 will have a healthy pc playerbase?

>>176187659
PC players have a higher chance of playing online than a console player, that's a fact. Not only do you have to pay for online but most console users don't ever place into a ranked matched.

>>176187758
I don't think it will be dead but I think more people will by it for console.

>>176187758
Only MvCI will have a healthy pc playerbase because that's the next flagship capcom game.

Tekken 7 is fucked because it's not capcom + no crossplay, and plus, the lag...

>>176187781
She should have been in the base game.
>>176187758
Yeah according to this anon >>176187785

>>176187758
Healthy enough to not worry about it. It'll get shit on by capkiddies but the people who play it will be fine.

>>176187553
v-league.pro/ranking, but capcom shut down the site like a month ago so nothing is updated

>>176187758
better than Xbox i would say

>>176187785
You could probably compare achievements between the two platforms for fighting a ranked battle if you were autistic enough and do the math from there.

>>176187785
Anyone who plays SFV on PS4 pays for online. If they don't they can't even unlock characters.

>>176187785
>PC players have a higher chance of playing online than a console player
le call of duty faec

The latest CoD barely breaks 5k on PC

meanwhile on console modern warfare remastered had 120k+ people online the other day. and that's a fucking remaster, not even the main cod game.

PC gamers only play MOBA/FPS/strategy f2p garbage

Console gamers play a huge variety of games and there's many more of them online than on PC. that's a fact.

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>>176187417
no i'm this guy

>>176187781
This shit looks like it needs 3 or 4 more art passes, it's looks so placeholder.

>>176187987
Call of Duty is a console game.

In fact, the tournament standard for Call of Duty is console based.

>>176187052
>it being a motion is artificially difficult. just add extra buttons.
They couldn't, and at this point those motions are natural and learned enough to not be a high execution barrier.

>you can play fighting games without special moves
you can't for anything modern

>>176187924
I don't play online, just at locals :)

>>176188074
Same goes for all fighting games. The FGC has been console based for over 15+ years now. Before that it was arcade based. Try again you retarded 17er lmao

>>176187659
That's 1.6mil shipped, not sold to end customer

>>176187914
Well 25.3% of PS4 players have at least won a single ranked match. 24.3% have played at least ten games online. 14.5% have played at least 50 games.

>>176188216
So?

The number of actual sold to customers is very close to 1.6 mill because otherwise capcom would have been hit by huge returns. Do you not know how the retail industry works?

xrd would be great without the valentines

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>>176188310

>>176188216
I bought mine digital, do they record those numbers?

>>176188284
What about steam achievments? I'm curious now.

>>176188353
why bother with achievements for steam? you can look at how many are playing on steam right now.

steamcharts.com


way, WAY more people play online on PS4 than on steam.

>>176188392
I just want to know what % of them ever won a ranked match.

To the anon that posted the Punk vs Foreverking match, thank you

This is fucking hilarious

>>176187914
Someone did this for all the fighting games out now and I think GGRev was the highest percent of at least one match win. I can't find the post though, They're all roughly in the 20-30%

>>176188353
50.4 percent of steam users have played at least 10 network battles. 49.9 percent have won a ranked match. 35.5 played fifty network battles.

>>176188093
but they are. people drop their inputs and combos pretty frequently at all levels of play in certain situations. low level players suck at doing dps to jumps or invuln supers to go through fireballs. it would be much easier to do these things if these things were mapped to a button, right? so it's artificially difficult.

even if it's been in fighting games since sf2, that doesn't mean it wasn't artificially difficult then or now. kbd is no different.

and you can play without special moves. it's a lot harder to win if you did, but you can try. just like with kbd. you can play without it, but it's a lot harder to win if you did play without it.

>>176188519
Jesus. It's like the bloodborne achievements where only like 20% ever beat the first boss. Who are all these people buying games and then never playing them.

6.87% of PSN players have played at least 300 matches of SFV

6.87% of 1 million is 68,700 people who have played at least 300 online matches

that's literally almost 5x the number of the HIGHEST EVER player count for SFV on steam, which only lasted for like a day or two.

>>176188310
The PK corner carry is so fucking stupid and so is 4P in the corner. Elphelt is all sorts of bad design.

>>176188481
link?

>>176186729
I made an AHK script and 441 41 works fine in T6, I don't know what else to tell you.

>>176187524
are those peeps?

i bet europeans call them something super weird

>>176188635
https://www.twitch
.tv/videos/140395291

They play Injustice then SFV

>>176188310
Nah. ram is super high iq and a nice change of pace from literally every character in the game. I just wish they worked out the issue with her swords. She's op when you can't knock them out, and she kind of sucks when you easily can. It's hard to find a middle ground with her but I hope the work on it for the best.

The redhead slut sister does suck though tbqh. That 6p buff is literally disgusting

>>176188569
When you're an adult or have a family it's really easy to buy a game, start it, and then never get to touch it again. Even as someone who was regularly playing games, DaS was a daunting game for me that I didn't play at one point for about 2 years between sessions because of how much of an investment it was. It's a lot less investment involved in playing some multiplayer shit with your friends that's more casual than SFV for some people.

>>176188569
a lot of people do that. usually people who played a ton of games when they were younger but claim they're too busy for them now. somehow they always find time to play the new cod game or destiny for hours though.

Some of the highest trophy numbers for far into a game I have seen are for Persona 5. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though since that game was bought by a bunch of dedicated fans.

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I can't find anywhere else that can help.

I recently bought MKX, and I'm trying to get the skins that you can earn from the mobile game. Does anyone have a WB account with the skins unlocked that I can borrow? I really, really don't want to play MKX on a phone.

Thanks in advance.

>>176186831
Eh, i suppose but they have pioneered a clunkier model of whats generally used in their respective genres
They survive on games with at least a solid casual playerbase and that keeps their games alive and alive games last longer, are remembered more fondly, etc

PoE might shit on Diablo 3 in every way but it doesn't matter since Diablo 3 can ride on D2s coattails and keep a lively enough scene to keep making content for it and gradually other games die out.
Problem with SC2 is that it also basically killed the RTS genre outside of niche shit.

I wouldn't mind blizz taking a crack at a fighting game. I wouldn't expect it to be good but i could definitely see it being fun.

>>176188685
can you take a video with inputs on? or just show inputs? i can never backdash without 2 back inputs showing up on the input reader in any tekken game i own. and all these videos with inputs confirm the exact same thing.

>>176188589
You say that like quantity and popularity means something over quality of player.

>>176188787
I generally have less time for games as I get older, but I also buy a lot less games. It seems like some people buy more and play less, just seems dumb to me.

>>176188796
Yeah that's fairly classic. "I don't have time for the gym" but watches 5 hours of a netflix a night.

>>176188787
oh boohoo. buy a game and play it incrementally until you finish it. don't just keep buying games and never playing them. you people are a bunch of weirdos.

>>176188305
Yes, distributors order x amount of product and it sits in their warehouse until they can sell it to someone.

should i get rev2 for PC or PS4?

>>176188916
I've seen it happen with family and friends that only try to buy games they'll play. One example being MGSV which is hard to play as it is for someone who hasn't played much recent aside from Shadow of Mordor, and then he has a kid so that leaves him with only the time to play it at night or when I visit him at night. To your point though, it makes a lot more sense for this to happen with singleplayer games than something like SFV which is made to be played with other people.

>>176188916
I know this is a tad off topic but that gym shit really gets me. Friend of mine always says that but he's obviously making an excuse for himself. Just be honest and say you don't want to or you don't feel like it. At least then you can work on the issue instead of ignoring it.

>>176189061
pc

>>176189061
PS4 if you're already paying for online for other games
Otherwise PC

>>176188198
Cabinets are basically pc builds.

>>176189131
It bothers me when they get passive aggressive about it. "Oh wow I wish I could find the time to go to the gym" shit like that.

>>176189074
Yeah fair enough. I don't have kids yet so I'll try not to judge too harshly. Hopefully if/when I can just pawn them off on the mom or hand them an unplugged controller or something.

>>176189059
Oh so you don't know how it works? figured.

retailers make a contract with publishers for x amount of product. a minimum % of that product must be sold or the retailers send back the stock to the publishers and get their money back. this is how retail has worked for decades now.

capcom is a publicly traded company. if they have been hit with large amounts of returns from retailers then they are obligated to report so on their financial reports, and no such thing has ever been reported on any of the financial quarter reports since SFV's release. it would literally be illegal for them to hide such info from investors.

>>176189290
nigga tournaments don't use cabinets. tekken 7 tournaments will be played on Xbox Scorpio

>>176180186
name 3 players there that placed top 8 in a major

>>176189021
t. poorfag

I'm not complaining, simply stating that it happens.

>>176189307
And not just that, but SFV has sold an extra 200k copies since its initial 1.4 mill. That means the game sold through its original shipment and retailers ordered more.

>>176181132
I'll play with you Anon, if you're on PS4. I'm not very good though

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>be me
>relatively new player
>been playing X fighting game for <6 months
>enter tournament cause why not
>same pool as pro player
Im not even good

>>176189021
<relearn everything every time you come back to it

i'd rather play/learn new/old fighting games.

How hard is the execution in MvC? Never really got into it but I'd like to give it a try.

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See me

>>176189557
Say which game, no bully

>>176189567
MvC is a pretty easy series to jump into. Lots of easy execution characters that are viable. MvCI will be a great jumping in point

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Someone wanna play V?

I'm tired of getting meme'd on in Seige

im not buying mvci

>>176189741
which coast are you on

>>176189695
What the FUCK was that shit

doa5 was kind of fun

is this the power of 3d fighters? too bad i wont be able to run tekke n7

>>176189797
West

>>176189725
I hope so.

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>>176189884
I mean we can still try if you want.. i'm ec

send me an inv if you want

>>176189934
whats your rank

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any1 in NA want to play some XRD?

p.s. i play ram

>>176189934
I'll send momentarily

>>176189817
What are you on PC?

>>176190119
silver

>>176189557
>thumbnail ai poster
wow you're retarded lmao

>>176185116
I just came back from a workout to lmao at you

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>>176189725
MvCI is getting shat on a lot here unsurprisingly but it looks so damn fun. Reminds me of TvC and I loved that game to death. Any of you guys like tatsunoko?

>>176190134
i dont play xturd but your taste in waifus is to be impeccable.

>>176190136
yeah PC, i dont own a ps4 and my computer is real poverty

>>176185582
>that Namco didn't even care to promote outside Japan
what the fuck
they hired fucking snoop dogg to make a track for it.
you're retarded.

>>176190134
psn?

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Eliza's game is coming soon!

>>176186196
>Everyone gives VG charts shit but its the only thing we have to go on
This is fucktarded logic and I hate you for perpetuating it.

Just because you dont have a legit source doesnt mean that you need to jump onto one that is 100% made up.
Thats sheer idiocy.

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>tfw your friend falls for the hitbox meme

>>176190498
watching this episode right now. is it just me or do they seem kind of high?

>>176189061
PS4.

>>176188874
SC1 killed RTS's anon. SC2 failed to hold the genre up on it's shoulders. FG's are the same but Jap arcades means that Japanese devs always have a pool of people to jew.

>>176187758
it will be somewhere around MKX and SFV which isnt bad at all.

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Which of these 3 duos is the MOST perfect?

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wow

i did not mean to do all those ressenhas butu

the 360 analog stick makes me do things sometimes..

>>176181132
I would
But it's not on Steam

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>>176190557
Hella giggles. Don't forget to buy my book for $4.20

>>176190838
Seth and Combofiend are the least annoying, so them.

>>176190884
don't apologize my man, evolve!

>>176190838
>anything but Yipes and Matrix
come on

>>176188559
You're missing the biggest point which is that movement is the biggest execution barrier, a barrier higher than anything expected at a basic level for other games just to be competitive mid to high level.

>>176188541
>>176188284
>>176187659
I did some basic math including all those numbers and going off the 10match achievement

1.6mil overall
1.3 mil on PS4
270k on PC

325.000 PS4
135.000 PC

PS4 is twice as active even though it has like five times more the sales.
Its kinda the same when you look at the 50match numbers.
PS4 players are more casual on average, but there's more of them.

We dont know how active PS4 players are compared to PC right now though.
The numbers dont mean a lot because in both cases a fuckton of casuals dropped off quickly.

>>176187553
>you missed out on one of the greatest american cartoons you damn bonehead.

Not that great. Good but not great material.

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>>176190308
Only tatsunoko character I truly know is Hakushon Daimao and he wasnt in the west version.

>>176190557
They're baked as a bun fresh out the oven.

>>176190838
seth killian with anybody is always best.

>>176187076
>I guess it's still the same with DOTA maybe but I couldn't care less about that shit.

It varies ~20-40 but like there's ones that last long or end short

>>176189703
tekken 7
>>176190179
>not wanting a pixelated ai chan

anyone 3am xrdr? psn ec

>>176191559
I'm willing if u wanna see how ec 2 wc connection works out
Open a lobby

How can someone devise a system where this can happen with no timeouts or dropped connection? This kind of shit was still happening in the CFN beta. If a match is like this then fucking end it due to connection. There needs to be some system in place for connection quality in ranked match that can't be abused or gamed. I'm really worried about the blacklist feature because there was an "ignore player" feature in Overwatch. People would use it to ignore good players or Widowmakers and those players wouldn't be able to match with anyone when you got to a high enough rank. I have no faith in Capcom not repeating this mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmbMoYbUDE#t=30m35s

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Just got SFV on ps4 from a special

How the fuck do i get good?

Playing casual and I'm just getting raped every match

I'm more of a Tekken player but I really want to try and get better at 2D fighters

Any tips anons?

Guys if I buy Revelator on disc and upgrade do I still have to use the disc?

>>176191196
>325.000 PS4
>135.000 PC
>PS4 is twice as active even though it has like five times more the sales.
>Its kinda the same when you look at the 50match numbers.
That's what I expected but it'll never quell the >fighting games on PC bs

>>176191741
watch bafael youtube series on sfv

>>176191661
sauk

>Depending on the game, there can be up to four different types of stunned visualizations, all of which can be broken out of by rapidly pressing left and right on the control pad/stick, or in some cases, added with button mashing.
>"Angels" - Angels circling around the dizzied fighter's head indicate that the dizziness can be broken out of quite quickly.
>"Bells" or "Birds"- Bells/birds show that there will be some delay before action can be used again.
>"Stars" - The most commonly used state, the traditional stars circling around one's head in the SF series indicate that will be a moderate delay before it can be broken out of.
>"Reapers" - Reapers circling around a fighter's head shows that he/she has taken quite some damage, and will take a long time to recover. There is not much hope of getting out before the player is attacked again.

Is this still true with SFV?

>>176190838
I like all of these but my favourite are Salty Steve + Sajam.

>>176191741
locate the primary anti air tool of the character you want to play.

>>176191827
Because it's true

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>>176191775
ANSWER ME GOOBERS

>>176192224
No one knows until it's out. Aksys has gone back and forth based on ASW so no idea until it comes out.

>>176191775
>>176192224
Yes you dumbfuck.

>>176191886
Joining right now, my bad

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>>176192315
Thank you for your answer anon.

>>176192390
Bitch I'm coming for you.

ride the kings highway

>>176182776
>>176183175

You can play Tekken 3 where simple stair stepping makes KBD redundant. Other benefits include playing the best Tekken.

>>176192637
What is stairstepping?

>>176191183
but you can move around perfectly fine without it, just like you can poke and anti air perfectly fine without special moves. but being able to kbd enhances it/gives you more options, potentially stronger ones, as with special moves like fireballs for poking and dps for anti airing.

there is basic movement and advanced movement in every non-sf game, and people mess up movement inputs in them as well. it's not exclusive to tekken and kbd. the artificial difficulty argument doesn't hold unless you agree to apply it to every non-sf fg for movement or apply it to special moves as well. and i agree that kbd is artifical difficulty, but so are lots of things in fighting games, and that's part of the point of playing a fighting game instead of a turn-based strategy game.

>>176192505
>that lag
wooooooooooooow, you got 9 days to clean that up before you don't see me until rev 2

>>176192791
>that's part of the point of playing a fighting game

no it isn't.