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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Spin-off General #1-D

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Welcome to /mk8g/ - The Deluxe Era Edition!
Last thread: N/A

Discuss Mario Kart & Mario Spin-off Games!
Wii U players welcome as well (please get a Switch ASAP though)

>Wanna know what /mk8g/ is all about?
Watch these or be a loser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc8KzuEmXyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNMvL7z2ub0

>Our old Wii U Miiverse page
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073268532636/14866558073646102396

>Game Codes
Main Lobbies:
--Mario Kart 8 (Switch) 200cc
4023-7564-6763
--Mario Kart 8 (Switch) Battle
4899-8626-8715

Auxillary Lobbies:
--Mario Kart 8 (Switch) 150cc
1596-0611-9979
--Mario Kart 8 (Switch) 200cc Mirror
(Coming Soon)
--Mario Kart 8 (Switch) 200cc Frantic
(Coming Soon)
--Mario Kart 8 (WiiU) 200cc
4584-9410-2777

Other games:
--Mario Kart 7 (ask in thread) : 07-0695-1617-1935
--Mario Golf: World Tour (turns): 58-1023-1832-5422

>How do I play with you guys!?!
--First time racers:
Go to "online - one player", go to "tournaments", go to "search by code", enter our main (or auxillary) lobby code and hit "join". If you keep getting put in empty lobbies, the current one is full.
--Returning racers:
Go to "friends" from the online menu & view "recent players" list to find and join someone who is currently racing. >!Further FAQs (Tips, Esoterics, General stuff/junk):
http://pastebin.com/aJne6hi4

>/mk8g/ Historical Archive
https://pastebin.com/WpPHZwAb

>News
It's out nigguh Purple boosts ho!

>Thread PSA:
Do not reply or respond to shitposters.
Regularly announce the number of players in a lobby.
Keep up the banter during races.
Namedropping is discouraged but posting along the lines of "Haha John Smith that green was beautiful" is not only fine; you should do it more!
Keep on posting screenshots in the thread!

>Today's protip
Ignore discordfags and whether 150cc or 200cc bickering will get us nowhere and will just stubbornly cement people into their position.
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Spooky did nothing wrong.
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>150cc
>auxiliary

This makes me sad.
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>Copy pasta from the 8U era OP
>Still not realizing why a general is a terrible idea while having mk8g archives in the op
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hello
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>>176171773
Should have bought mkx
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>>176171773
why are you doing this
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Golf?
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>>176172571
I altered it heavily friendo
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Nice going guys
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>>176172852
You don't even play. Go away
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>>176171773
Been too long brothers, I know this wont really last long but I'm unreasonably excited regardless.
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Someone post a discord link
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Wii U 200cc
2/12 come play
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>>176173152

https://discord.gg/DeR4g
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Post your favorite karts
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>>176173152
nobody on discord is using /vg/
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>>176173152
>>176172852
>>176172375
Quality thread.

And I thought we hung out on Skype. We're on Discord now?
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>>176172651
Hey I don't expect in to last but hey, let see how far it can go.
I can't even race during the weekend so I had particular reason to want this back
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>>176173295
Mastercycle + any slims and Bowser kite
Sportbike + Leaf tires and Flower Glider

Dry Bowser and Fem Villager respectively
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Nobody bump this thread, then watch what happens
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>>176173295
City Tripper. Always th City Tripper
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>>176173906
OOPS i bumped this thread my bad anon
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>>176171773
dude. We need new codes that don't end on sunday night so we can keep playing all week
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Best girl
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4/12 Wii U
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>>176174260
That's not daisy
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>>176171773
I appreciate the effort to seriously make an OP, bro.
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>>176174519
Thanks, reminder to Wii U bros to please buy a Switch as soon as you can.
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3/12 U
Don't let it die!
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That fucking green shell
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>>176174871
We need to make a new lobby that is open all week
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>>176175837
Open to changes, I shouldn't make them because I'm frequently swamped under an absolute avalanche of work and am not reliable for edits.
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I was so good at Mario kart wii and I was so bad at the wiiU version, I didn't feel any motivation to get better
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>>176176090
add smart steering too. No reason why it wasn't there in the first place
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>>176176314
If Nintendo didn't axe the Wii's online we'd have Wii codes in the op right now. My condolences. If you haven't tried 200cc; it should blow your socks off. Though it's even harder than vanilla 8.
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5/12 Wii U
Fuck me I got destroyed
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>>176176550
This. It's casual baby tier but it still should be in.
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>>176176953
It would just be fun to dick around with.
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Reminder to post about what happens ingame nigs. Namedrop even Don't namedrop in any other situation though
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>>176176561
There's always Wiimmfi.
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>>176177254
>Banter
>In MK threads
>Deluxe era even
O am I laffin
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>>176177334
We had top banter in our heyday. Nothing a few reminders, metaposts, and seed banter can't fix.
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>>176177508
This
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I got mk8 for the switch and have been playing it casually, but i'm not a hardcore player or anything. However I'm wondering if someone can answer how you get the boost at the start of the race. The last mario kart I really played was for the 64 and you were supposed to time it with the beeping of the traffic light, but that doesn't seem to do it in this one. Also is tilt good or bad? I turned it off since I wasn't really paying attention to how I held my controller so it'd only get in the way.
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>>176177571
Gotcha man: see what you want to do is press accel not when the 2 appears but the moment it lowers and comes to a rest. You'll get it every time.
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>mfw will never ever join the discord
>just have fun in the tournaments without a care in the world
Maximum rebel desu.
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>>176177569
post webms
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>>176177569
Post funniest kart webms.
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>throw a green shell
>it ricochets off 3 different walls and hits me back
Is there a greater embarrassment?
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>>176178095
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>>176177819
You are the hero /mk8g/ used to deserve
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>>176177904
9/10 would have been better in full motion
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>>176177571
>the boost at the start of the race
Accelerate on 2

>tilt
I don't know about Deluxe, but in 8 it maxed out your handling or something.
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>>176177305
Never heard of it. Can be a project of sorts if anyone itt wants to devote time to it.
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>>176177746
>>176178382
thanks bros I'll try that next time I play.
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Removing Firehopping was a mistake.
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>>176178609
Removing firehopping was a positive thing, if only to piss off firehopping advocates like nikki
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>>176179176
Stylish
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Still playimg Wii U? I might fish out my old console and join later if there are players.
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To everyone playing on the U version, when are you going to get the Switch? When ARMS comes out? When Odyssey comes out? As soon as it's back in stock? I'm curious.
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>>176180226
Next week bud, fear not.
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Kart status?
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So when is the time on the tournaments going to be fixed? They all seem to end on Monday.
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>>176181213
Either Nikki will fix them or new ones will be made. If the later we should also create a new weekend OP image
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Anybody have the comic of Isabelle blasting through the race, then stopping at the finish line to wait for mayor to win?
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Best cart setup for DK in Deluxe?
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>>176181337
>Either Nikki will fix them

Nikki is an autistic spaz that insists on no generals. Someone else needs to make a new one
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Recently got mk8 and going through it for the first time.
Is there a specific kart combo I should use for 150cc to beat the grand prix with ease?
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>>176181772
Cruisers have tons of options.
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>>176180226
I'm getting my Switch repaired, so I'm just playing U in the meanwhile. Thankfully, people still play it.
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>>176182735
No, just Heavy characters will do fine.
Heavy+Slick tires and whatever you want for a kart. Reminder that the only actually important stat in this game is speed, especially in 150cc
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>>176182110
Duly noted
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>>176183902
>the only actually important stat in this game is speed
That's not how you spell acceleration. But I agree, speed is important as well.
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discord was a mistake
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Are lightweights at all viable? All my fav characters are on the lighter end of the spectrum and I've been having trouble keeping up with the heavyweights. Anyone find any lightweight combinations that have been serving them well?

I tried taking Roy for a spin in the airship kart with the roller tires and had a noticeably easier time. I can always fall back on that if need be, but I'm just a tad annoyed that the heavies seem to be strictly better.
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>page 9
Try to keep this general bumped instead of talking about McDonald's if you want it to see the light of day, alright?
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>>176186126
Didn't they become much better in Deluxe?
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>>176186227
Hardly
Only thing better is that they can get purple boost quicker
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>>176186126
I've been experimenting with Isabelle and I came up with a Buggybug, Roller and Plane Glider combo. I haven't used this combination for very long, but so far it's been serving me very, very well.
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>>176184595
Acceleration and handling are completely secondary to speed and it's hidden counterparts (Underwater-Speed being the only one that matters)
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>>176186157
Since when does /vg/ move that fucking fast?
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>>176180226
Odyssey for me. I've spent too much on travel plans this summer to justify buying a console and a remake. Already played and enjoyed Zelda on Wii U.

Tempted to buy a tax free Switch when I go to Japan this July. Need to see how much money I make at work until then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2Fz0OO8ag

>Weekend /vg/ threads
>Copying old shit
>Forgetting old shit was what killed /v/eekend
>Forgetting circlejerks work only to make people avoid playing with you
>Forgetting history in general.

I can't help you.
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>>176187145
And the /v/eekend threads this past weekend were all peaches and cream? Go back to your discord and whine to the circlejerk
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>>176187145
I'm just in it for the ride, senpai. I have no idea why they thought rebooting the general is a good idea, but I guess we'll see what happens.
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>>176187228
>And the /v/eekend threads this past weekend were all peaches and cream? Go back to your discord and whine to the circlejerk
Did you not read that part were he said that it killed /v/eekends?.
But what am I saying, of course you didn't.

More ironic that the archive with the old general is right there, as if it was a badge of honor
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Current state of the Wii U lobby...
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>>176187542
You didn't even announce it.
Heck, there was no status update for a while like always, fags
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>>176187649
Sorry first time here didn't know standard procedure
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>>176187713
Did you already leave? I didn't see you when joining
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hugbox
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>>176187228
No, those being all shit because of all the shit is also problem.
I can't comment on something I did not even witness, wasn't participating on friday or saturday.


It is general problem with /v/ things and then making circlejerk. But two weeks and already the thing is in almost a deathbed situation is not fun to see. I hoped to race and have fun but fuck it /v/ can make itself exponentially wrong and we have ARCHIVES of history that we could maybe learn from but we just don't. The collective of "we" is just that dense to it all.

>>176187498
Oh, so am I, for better or worse. Just betting on worse since it seems to be winning.

>>176187529
Granted I was regular racer in old generals, and old /v/eekend times. Yeah, the circlejerking around was the worst and that reflected any attempts of a /v/ thread over weekends until people just saw it as cancerous circlejerk that nobody wanted to join, not even on /v/eekends so it was racing with the 6 to 9 players every day that someone would race and that is that.

Now think splitting a situation where you can't get even full 12 people to fill a room over three different rooms; because I do not blame brand new switch owners that didn't have a Wii U for racing in 150cc not at all, even if I enjoy 200cc immensly I am not expecting a first time krat 8 booter to get into 200cc in any instant manner.


I want to save you but I just do not know how.
Just watch history.

Weirdest thing is that the OP linked old threads when it seems the OP is not anyone from the old threads at all.
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>>176187750
Went to global to see if there was anyone who still played this game
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>sold my wiiu
>mk8g revived
Fuck me, lads.

Also I cant believe someone was autistic enough to compile all the generals. Though it was cool to watch how to OP image evolved.
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>>176188152
I give it a week max.
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>>176187929
Please don't start up unnecessary shit. If you got a problem with this, just ignore it like a sane person
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>>176188509
He's just trying to knock some sense into you people. History repeating itself is never a good thing.
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>>176188654
Too right mate.
Fucking sucked watching everyone tear themselves apart last time.
I wamt to see the glory days of /v/eekends come back and generals gone.
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>>176188509
In my eyes the OP of this thread started unnecessary shit.
I am just pointing it out and feelings of probably few people out there seeing a beloved building in a dumpster fire just wishing that something can be built out of it if fires are put out.

I am just saying this is a old ass cycle that mario kart 8 /v/eekends on Wii U took a year if not more to do, and you did this cycle in under a month with Deluxe.
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Go back to how the old /v/eekends were back in mk7 days.

A simple related image with codes and a searchable subject.
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>>176189153
Yes.
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>>176188654
>>176188892
Can't get any worse than this past /v/eekend. Now fuck off if you don't want to post here.
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>>176189153
>No codes in the op image
>All those fucking codes (because splitting up players is always good right)
>The archive
>PSA
>News in there at all
No real effort to actually make a general and more effort to make something to keep the /v/eekend shitpost going
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>>176189914
Oh I would still race if anything...

But does not seem to be much of that going on either... Should make one think but it fails to.

>>176189989
This, while people all say "LOOK HOW BAD LAST /v/EEKEND WAS NO GO THE FUCK AWAY"
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Do any inside drift users know how to do the first major MK8 RR turn in 200cc? The 3rd tier drift keeps launching me off the track.
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Is Mario Golf active? I might buy it if it is.
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>>176192474
give up on that level it's not made for inside dirft
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>Play Worldwide
>Stuck in a lobby with nothing but japanese and everyone is 4000-5000
>200cc

Now we're talking
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>It's another "Gold Mariofag gets 1st place" race
>It's another "2nd place throws a red shell behind them despite 1st not being that far away"

FUCK this game
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>>176194892
git gud?
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Kinda glad this general is back.
Hopefully it stays alive.
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>>176198880
If You can samefag that much, be my guest
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>>176199109
You're clearly not watching the poster count too well. Go be a fag elsewhere.
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>>176194892
>second throws a red shell backwards despite first place not far away
that's better since if first place is dragging an item, it would be waste. better to try and fuck over third than just letting it go to waste

any wii u players up?
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:dabandwatch:
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does anyone use a pro controller? how does it feel compared to the joycons?
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>>176203206
I personally find pro controller to be more comfortable, but joycon works really well as well.
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Did anyone buy the joycon wheel?
How is it?
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Can someone confirm two things for me?
1) can MK8 wii u online players play with MK8D switch online players?
2) is MK8 wii u getting an update w/ some or all the extras deluxe gets?
I just want confirmation
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>>176208412
1) No
2) Also no
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>>176203206
I actually have a pro controller and I prefer handheld mode for this game
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Anybody playing 200cc on wii u?
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>>176213091
I could go for a few races
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>>176213128
sweet. just give me a few minutes. will be in veekend 3.0
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2/12
200cc U
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2/12 wiiu 200cc
lobby; veekend 3.0
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>that clutch green shell
I thought you had me

>yoshi's
hate this stage. did you get stuck?
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>>176214285
I'm half asleep, sorry
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>>176214456
ehh. well, as long as you're having fun i suppose
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>>176214632
I'll start picking up my game
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>>176214838
I can barely beat you now D:
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I knew I should've taken the shortcut
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>>176215161
I was wonderin' how I passed you on that track
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Shit, I forgot about the banana
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>>176215457
lol. I forgot about it too
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I get my switch on friday. I'm looking forward to racing with you all again.
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Did you wait on me to get close just to dangle victory in front of me on Cloudtop?
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>>176216174
I like to finish in reverse sometimes, adds a little more excitement towards the end
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GGs Chris. I still have a lot to learn
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>>176216923
Good races. You're pretty good on the inside drift. I know how hard it can be on 200cc.
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>>176216983
thanks. thing is, I cannot use outside drift bikes or karts for the life of me
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Wii U Veekend 3.0
1/12
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>>176217502
left the lobby. play with you all later
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>Would have a switch right now if not being the fire that happened at my apartment complex that I spwnt all my money handling.
Suffering
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>>176220965
The only is shit on the switch anyway. You're just missing tons of disconnections
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>>176208412
No to both, never ever
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>>176223646
I heard the netcode is better than the Wii U though.
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>>176224791
Debatable. Shine Runners is definitely fuckin broken.
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I love the Mayor!
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>>176224850
How so?
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>>176224979
Best girl
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>Guys, let's make a general so we can keep playing on the week!
>Yeah!
>All these posts unrelated to playing the game itself
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Fuck this general
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>>176226462
how's the discord mang
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>>176226459
>What is every general on /vg/ ever
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>>176226665
I'm just saying, you guys made such a big deal out of remaking the general so you could play and that's what has happened the least so fat
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>>176226545
Oh, is there a discord?
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>>176226462
Shoo shoo namefag
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>>176226821
kys
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Just waitng for people to join the lobby. And for Wii U dudes to buy a switch.
>>
>>176226797
>A discord of people from 4chan
>Instead of just posting on 4chan
I will never understand you people
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>>176227440
tfw they made a secret channel for "pure" members
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Does anyone have the bigger version of this pic?
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>>176227603
>tfw don't remember half of these names
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>>176227550
What is a "pure" member?
>>
>>176227749
I remember most
From top left to right:

? Used to know
Kevin
Ryan
Nikki
LaN
Adam
Sandoval
Larry
TheArtrix
Klicklac
Ran Da Muu
Dan
Flippy
Penta
? she had some french name
WAA
Sebastian
Taro
?
Pwoh
Nips
Ashley
TWK
Glatzy
Javi
Nepe
Darkwolf
Dane
Cloudy
Tim
?
Candy
Coggert
?
?
Wally
Meteoris
Chris
Kitty
Ultim8
Maebbie
Phil
Owlet
>>
>>176228232
think it's the people with the og vkender tag or something
>>
>>176228417
Nikki and Barkley are the only ones there who are somewhat old.
Everyone else is a newshit and all of them cancerous.
>>
>>176227024
>switch to Switch
I will when they announce a smash game. I'm not buying another console for one good game
>>
>>176228712
Can't blame you honestly. I assume you bought BotW on the Wii U?
>>
>>176229415
nope. mk8. got the wiiu for 100 bucks. the discount was because the right analog stick is broken on the gamepad.
>>
>>176228245
>Ashley
You got me to kek at that.
>>
>>176230461
I don't get it
>>
>>176227550
Pathetic, they're all low skill literal whos anyway.
>>
any wii u players?
>>
>>176236595
At work, otherwise I would. Sorry
>>
Can someone make new
200cc
150cc
and battle codes that have times throughout the week?
>>
I quickly made a Discord server, so please enjoy it. I have to sleep soon, but tomorrow I will be active.

https://discord.gg/wXx9X5U

>>176238581
Can I make codes if you want me?
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>>176239038
>Discord
No
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So ded
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>/ssbg/ died for this
>/ssbg/ died for this
>/ssbg/ died for this
>/ssbg/ died for this
>>
>43 posters
Nice samefagging perry pleasan
>>
>>176239038

We already have a discord

>>176173285
>>
>>176241163
what do sm4shers have to do with mk8?
>>
>>176241493
That server is shilled everywhere though.
I would have devoted mine to this general
>>
>>176241823

That's because it's literally /v/'s main server for videogames and /v/kends. There is no point in having a discord exclusive to mk8, specially not mk8g, moxy already did that and the places is a shitfest where her girlfriend abuses her mod powers to fuck with people.

Discords for generals and specially shallow games are a bad idea, save yourself the trouble and don't try.
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>>176241559
The fact that you killed our threads, apologize
>>
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>>176242063
You're both autistic for being Discordfags, but you're sounding particularly autistic for saying it's -literally- /v/'s main server.

Fuck off the pair of you, kys in particular.
>>
any wii u players? if you can't play right now post a time that you will be able to. make sure you post it in the correct timezone so that there is no confusion
>>
>>176243320
>particularly autistic for saying it's -literally- /v/'s main server.

It is, though.
>>
>>176241163
Smash died long before this, and it died under the weight of it's own cancer. Cancer so pervasive that it scared away anyone from trying to revive it, including yourself. How does our much smaller game with no esports community "kill" a larger games general with one anyway?

And stop complaining and kart like this fine gentleman >>176244440
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>>176248523
>THIS is what /ssbg/ died for
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>>176248408
Even if it is -literally- /v/'s main server, doesn't mean smaller servers can't exist, dude. Either way, stop being a discordfag.
>>
Why did they make triple bananas suck?
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Is online filled with Mortons like in vanilla MK8?
>>
>>176254429
Probably, 200cc will have less though.
>>
Why does getting item combo'd in racing causing me to lose make me rage and getting item combo'd in say Coin Runners and losing at the last minute not make me rage?
>>
>>176257373
Right? Textbook absurd.
>>
>>176249032

Yes however creating another discord when one already exists and fills the purpose of people wanting a discord where everyone is in means you're an attention whore who wants attention, you'll be called out.
>>
Anyone feel like 150cc?
>>
>>176259509
Make a new lobby with non-shit rules and I'll play
>>
>>176260775
This some one make lobbies for 200cc and 150cc.
We need weekly times and steerimg assit on.
>>
>>176263783
Make them yourslef
>>
https://youtu.be/a3o_ZKWi-OU

Any of you guys like videogamedunkey?
>>
>>176265020
Please refrain from posting le funny youtubers here.
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What's the point of having a /mk8g/ if all the tournaments besides battle aren't even open?
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>>176268595
Was a surprise to me is why. I'm a Wii U player until a week or so from now.
OP here at work. I should not make the new codes we need beacause I am frequently swamped by work and have a history of dying for months on end so am therefore unreliable for edits.
If someone could please make a 200cc, mirror, and frantic lobby and post them here I would be massively grateful.
>>
>>176271875
Do it yourself or fuck off.
You only need to do it once
>>
>wario stadium is a majority vote
>never gets picked
>gets chosen as the random course
>get fucked up, place bottom half
It's a curse
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>>176272315
>"Im a Wii U player until a week or so from now."
This means I don't have a switch yo.
Help a nigga out.
>>
>>176263783
Second this
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>>176274759
>Baby park always gets picked
>WW lobby
>10 of the 12 votes are Baby Park
>Thankfully it lands on random
>Baby Park
My anus never recovered
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>>176258350
or they just wanted a more dedicated community to play with lmao

sounds more like you're being the attention whore if you're so obsessed with running /v/'s ultimate gaymin server (tm)
>>
>>176275356
Baby park is more fun in 150cc
>>
>Get into the lobbies with everyone high enough that 200cc start showing up

Oh baby
>>
>Everyone is regional is fucking trash
>Everyone in Worldwide is super good

Fug
>>
>>176278839
I often wonder how some of these people have 8000+ VR already. Do they not have lives outside Mario Kart?
>>
any wii u players up?
>>
>>176281779
My last two races made me legitimately angry so I'm going to sleep, sorry. I'll play with you tomorrow. Euro?
>>
>>176282215
murica. just post a time when you'll be able to play
>>
>>176282485
10PM-midnight Eastern time, maybe an hour or two earlier
>>
>>176282747
excellent. the perfect time
>>
>Red Shell
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>/ssbg/ died for this

...
>>
>>176242637
>>176248871
>>176286159
kys panchito

>>176172375
spooky is particularly cancer
he's already shitting up the thread because muh ultimate /v/ discord
>>
>>176286159
If you keep repeating that it might become true. Don't give up anon.

Also what's stopping you from trying to start up /ssbg/?
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>>176286504
Not him
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>>176286513
>>
whats the easiest way to get a switch in the US
>>
>>176287998
buy one
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