/arena/ - Arena FPS General

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>yfw you gotta find a slipgate out of this place

>>176110405
What's wrong with his EYES

>>176110520
It's called "my pc is a toster which can run QC only on lowest settings with 60% render scale"-eyes

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I'd like to die.
What should I do with my getting fucked by my horrible ISP time, /arena/?

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inb4

>>176111234
Go wrestle with wildlife.

>>176111319
this

>>176111309
Did you really have to add more trash to the dumpster fire?

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>>176111369
yeah, I think it has to end in some shitposting catharsis

>>176111234
Play Quake 1 mods.

>>176111309
This guy is so mad, that he actually had to take his time... print-screen like 15 texts bits... search for images online... and create a montage... just because he knows he is wrong.

I rate this 10/10, you're ready for the paralympics.

>>176111570
Pretty much.
This is the future of the genre. Saddens me a bit.

>>176110230
Why create a new Overwatch thread, when the previous one is not full yet?

>>176111527
I've exhausted most of the good ones. It'd also take an hour to download anything new, I can barely load webpages.

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nyx more like chokes on dyx
nyx more like give her pussy some lyx
nyx more like between matches furiously schlyx

>>176111669
I guess we could jerk off together.

Sup guys. Does anyone know the best settings for my controller? I'm using the default presets from my xbox 360 pc controller, but I'd like to know if there was something more comfortable?

I'm playing the Quake Champions beta.

Thanks in advance.

>>176111918

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threadly reminder

if you see anyone posting like this albeit with punctuation and patronizing tone and bullshit claims

ignore them and move on

>>176112013
>like this

like what?

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>>176112013

>>176112359
Like this
>>176111918
>>176111570
It's samefag, whos shits here for 3 days

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>>176112417
That's actually a pretty excellent helmet shoop.

>>176112013
Sure, let me ignore the people that are right and that actually played the old Quake games.

I'll ignore every single of their fact-backed argument, and instead, I'll listen to people like you, because you're Silver in League of Legends and because you've unlocked the golden Ak-47 in Black Ops 3.

Makes a lot of sense.

Thanks for the heads up.

Add me on PSN: xXcUnT_dEsTrOyErXx
You miht see more people with a similar name, but just make sure to select the one with the february 2006 date of birth.

Cheers.

>>176112423
are you upset that not everyone enjoys mobaquake?

>>176112417
I like it
a lot
replace GOD with PENT and it's prefect

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>>176112509
creating images is what I do

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https://youtu.be/MlsbcXv-qdw?t=55

>>176112778
I know that this video is made to show how absurd it is to play such games wih a controller...

But Quake Champions was made with console players in mind and they made the game in a way that you could easily play with a controller and still be good.

R.I.P Quake.

>>176113169
but qc will be pc exclusive.

>>176112519
>the one with the february 2006 date of birth
are you saying that you're 11 years old?

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STOP RESPONDING TO HIM

>>176113231
PC exclusive my ass. They said they're gonna make an announcement soon regarding the console versions.

>>176113441
but then the thread will die.

>>176113458
>They said they're gonna make an announcement soon
[citation needed]

who the fuck though Anarki's hp increase being permanent was a good idea?

what is the problem with zoom bonus damage?

it slows you down and makes it harder to aim at close-medium range, gimping yourself should be rewarded in some way. bonus damage is a great way to do that.

>>176113637
he still dies too fast

>>176113686
>getting hit by anything other than undodgable shitscan weapons
lmao

Does the LR have a limited range or something? Whenever I try to use it at long range and I hold the crosshair directly on someone it just won't hit.

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>>176113717

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NDA being lifted fucking when

>>176113815
i think the netcode is just bad

>>176113648
what is the problem with zoom bonus damage?
the problem is people refusing to adapt

will qc have an ictf mode? have they said anything about community maps and mods?

i'm playing a lot of ictf in ut4, but it's hard to find players in the middle of the night. it looks like qc will have more players for now

>>176113827
That shit looks like fucking Rainbow Six Siege. Why did they need to put one million shitty text elements on the screen and why did they have to show he exact number of dmg you're dealing??

I'm talking about the 7 7 7 7 7 7 numbers appearing and the other "achievement unlocked" type of text popping out. Wtf.

>>176114149
kill yourself

>>176114149
>I'm talking about the 7 7 7 7 7 7 numbers appearing and the other "achievement unlocked" type of text popping out. Wtf.
i love damage numbers and popups when you did something awesome. give them feedback using the feedback button in the menu and maybe they'll make it optional. this is a beta, you can still get them to change stuff.

>rocket science in ut
>nail gun god in qc
>etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh9Ev9L-Ox8
it's awesome and feels more rewarding/fun than without it

>>176113961
Why bother adapting to a dumb "consolized" game?

How can even such a game be considered "skill-based" if the enemy has unlocked more champions and abilities than you?

How is that fair? I mean, I could have a good reaction speed, but it wouldn't matter if the enemy has some kind of evasion or immunity.

>>176114149
>>176114354
kill yourself

>>176114354
kill yourself

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>>176114354
>How can even such a game be considered "skill-based" if the enemy has unlocked more champions and abilities than you?
there will be a classic mode where every character has the same stats and no abilities. i don't like qc either, but don't act like they're not doing their best not to alienate veterans, while still getting the current generation interested in the game. maybe abilities and shit was exactly what the genre needed.
wait for classic mode or play reflex, ql or ut.
also, complain to the devs directly, complaining on an obscure imageboard won't do shit.

>>176114354

kill yourself

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>RedditSpaceJoe claims to be a game dev insider and a high test man of achievement
>has the time and energy to shit up a small general on 4chin for 3 days straight

>>176114353
Lol. Do you even know what a beta is in 2017? It's a marketing stunt. That's what it is. The game is ready to be shipped and they won't do any major changes. You're so naive.

All they want, is to get your email address, then they will send automatic email offers to you all year long...

"ONLY TODAY get 50% off!"

"NEW champion, buy it now and get this nice skin!"

"Pre-order NOW and get all future DLCs, for FREE"

And so on.

Why is this board full of so many dumb fucks?

>>176114597
kill yourself

>>176114597
>then they will send automatic email offers to you all year long
so, mark it as spam?

>>176114597

kill yourself

kill yourself
>>176114597

>>176114680
>>176114615
stop. everyone should be able to express their opinion without getting harassed.

>>176114771
kill yourself

>>176114771
He's not expressing opinion, you shmuck

The amount of people that just went kill yourself proves the predictable, smart ass nature of this board.

All of you try and impress each other with these funny green text comments, from someone who doesn't spend all their life online, it looks ridiculous.

Fuck this I'm off, don't wanna waste my life on "addictive and funny" 4chan.

>>176114647
You can do whatever the fuck you want with their emails... you could jerk off while reading them... you could forward them... you could delete them...

That wasn't my point.

If you had the least amount of neurons in your small brain, you would have understood my point. Which was the fact that the devs are doing a so-called beta so hey can upsell you in the future... and make millions of dollars, out of a game that is free-to-play.

You're so stubborn. And so dumb.

>>176114880
>>176114837
stick your tongue in a plug
suck a pipe of exhaust
make some toast in the tub
nail yourself to a cross
hold your breath till its gone
drink a gallon of mace
be gay in Iran
let oprah sit on your face
jump off of a bridge
skinny dip in a flood
sky dive attached to a fridge
drink a haitian guy's blood
break into the zoo, give the tiger a shove
eat a phillips head screw
marry courtney love

>>176114880
what is wrong with the devs making money off of their hard work? that money will help improving the game further and if they make enough of a profit, they can spend it on esports, helping the community grow.

>>176114106
T. Willy on community maps and mods, paraphrasing: They're looking at a way they can do it without damaging their monetization ie. players can't be allowed to mod themselves anything you pay for, so skins and champion access. If there's a mapping suite, expect it to be something locked-down and specifically made for that purpose instead of the actual engine SDK and engine access. Community modding it sounds like the closest you'll get is that they want players to be able to tweak rulesets similar to Overwatch custom modes.
He mentioned "Snapmap" while talking about it so my optimism regarding mapping and modding is pretty low. The sort of F2P model they're using is absolutely the wrong format for Quake just because it means they need to put a lot of consideration into any access they give to the SDK. It's supremely fucking fragile, and the only way Valve got away with similar F2P monetization is by building a literal economy around it. Most likely factor in the game dying is how little they stand to earn from it with this system, less than they would selling a $20 retail game with no second thoughts put into SDK access.

>>176114837
I know you really won't, but please. Please fucking leave.

>>176114837
killyourself

>>176114837
kill yourself

>>176114837

kill yourself

>>176114964
well, that doesn't sound too great. i was hoping for a system like in tf2 or ut4, where anyone can make maps/mods. you know, like it has always been in the past.
overwatch's custom game settings suck, they are very limited.

i just want ictf and maybe defrag.

>>176114880
kill yourself

>>176115161
f2p is a real shooting yourself in the foot type move unless you sell out to China, Russia or the weirdos that play Warframe and love grinding for whatever reason.

>>176114880

kill yourself

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>>176114837
>>176114880

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reminder that he's a threat and needs to be eliminated

>>176114953
That's where you're wrong.

There's a difference between

A - People making a good game, and enjoying the moneterary compensation as a result of their work.

and

B - People looking for the best and fastest possible way to make money, and using any way possible to do it. Even if this implies making a bad game and splitting the original content into 4 different DLCs or offering microtransactions.

You're obviously part of the new generation of dumb gamers, unfortunately. You're just another sheep with a wallet.

At least, you could have the decensy to listen to older people that witnessed the era when developers were making good quality games and didn't have money set as the very top of their objectives list.

>>176115586
kill yourself

>>176115586
fuck off you mentally ill nigger

>>176115586
killyourself

>>176115586
I thought you said you were going to leave.

>>176115586

kill yourself

>>176115305
>f2p is a real shooting yourself in the foot type move
i think that depends entirely on the implementation. what worked for dota 2 and tf2 can work for other games.
both of valve's games have:
>community mods
>community maps
>cosmetics that don't affect the gameplay and can be bought, sold or traded
in case of tf2, gameplay affecting weapons can be found by playing the game or bought and traded. it's a system that works and makes valve millions. especially dota 2, where all content other than cosmetics is unlocked by default, just look at the yearly prize pool of the international.
preventing the community from making maps and mods is the wrong move, it will only hurt the longevity of the game. kids today are fine with spending money on cosmetics (i will never understand why), dota shows that. you get to play the entire game for free and only have to pay money if you want to look 'special'.
hiding important gameplay affecting content behind a pay/grindwall is not good. tf2 did this, but i don't agree with that decision. at least in tf2 you could trade shit or craft it, qc does not offer this option yet.

f2p can definitely work if done right. all you need is a completely free game and cosmetic items that you have to pay for. that way everyone is happy: the community stays alive thanks to the people that just play the game for free and the publisher/dev makes money through cosmetics. modders will provide endless amounts of content.

>>176115586
get it through your head
'it' being a bullet

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>>176115393
Jesus Christ I laughed for 5 mins straight after this image. Thank you, mate

>>176115586
kys yourself

>>176115790
f2p is the only right move for QC, if it was p2p it would end up like QL

addicted whales will spend tons of $ on boxes too

>>176116089
>it would end up like QL
Or Reflex and Toxxik

>>176115790
Valve is definitely the exception and not the rule re: successfully going f2p. All signs point to the f2p system in QC 100% being the kill your game if it isn't incredibly popular sort, it doesn't work for the game on multiple levels.

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what are some classic CTF Quake maps? I want to check them out before they hit QC

>>176115790
You're wrong. Free to play is not a good model for competitive and skill-based games. Here's why.

Since your only profits come from selling skins and other cosmetic items, you need to make sure that you have enough people playing your game...

And guess what, the hard-to-master skill-based games like Quake or Unreal are a niche community in 2017, unfortunately. Just look at Unreal 4... It's an amazing game, and the devs actually listened to every single thing that players wrote on the official forums... yet it is still pretty much dead. It's because the genre is not fun to 2017 players that are used to CoD, Halo or Battlefield games.

So how do you make sure you don't commit the same mistake as Unreal 4? You make your game more accessible and fun to new players, so they don't quit right away. You add Moba aspects and abilities, because it's popular to the masses. That way you make sure you'll have plenty of players playing the game and bringing in cash throuh micro-transactions. As simple as that.

Also, if you had the least knowledge about Dota 2 and had played all the games since the Starcraft, WIII mod days, you know how it is way more casual than it ever was. Maybe you're paying more attention to the arcanas and battlepasses than to actual gamelogs and patch notes, but everyhing is there for you to check.

So please, don't arue if you have no clue on what you're talking about.

>>176116416
kill yourself

>>176116416

kill yourself

>>176116317
Yeah "successfully going f2p" and making the games more and more casual with every new patch, so they could attract more and more players and not scare them by the difficulty of the game.

>>176116416
killyourself

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>>176116416
pull the trigger, the pain will go away

>>176116416
neck yourself

why does champions have a character with fuck you hp? did older games have tanks too?

>>176116416
kys yourself

>>176116416
>Just look at Unreal 4... It's an amazing game,

Opinion officially fucking thrown so deep in the trash that it's China's problem now.

>>176116416
The problem with F2P in competitive games is that focus is on the wrong thing. They make their money from cosmetics (or hypothetically from selling power) and that's completely separate from what the players as a whole enjoy. If you have a subscription fee game the aim is to keep the players pleased with the gameplay generally because the money is directly connected to the retention of the larger crowd. How you please them can be anything. It can be anything from presentation (cosmetics included) to engaging strategy and new content.
A buy to play game or shareware model (rare these days) aims to provide the entire value upfront. The incentive to update the game is simply in an effort to deliver the perception that it's being held fresh, as to give the consumer an idea of it being a very cost efficient game. Most of them don't .
F2P aims to please a narrow demographic who continuously buys cosmetics. Who that is I don't actually know. The industry calls them "whales". Their devotion to the game is most important, other niche (modders, competitive scene) audiences are forgotten. The general public is appeased to find more whales.

>Dota 2
Dota 2 hasn't been that affected by this because of the workshop. Valve earns a lot of money by having random people make the cosmetic content for them for free. They also sell those International pack things that contribute (millions) towards them doing a little bit of cosmetic work for arcanas mainly (special cosmetics).

As for how the game is going and why you perceive it's changing for the worse I don't know. There's a few old changes which I think made the game simpler. Other changes like the way towers now gives you armor can't be seen as making it easier really. There's a lot to go into if you wish to describe most of these changes from a balance perspective and I don't think most players are even qualified to do so. Game is just too complex at the grand scale (even if most individual efforts aren't that huge).

>>176117029
Didn't even fit a (cont.)
Now you children might find F2P to be great because your allowance is just too restrictive. But for an overall quality product subscription, shareware or buy to play is a better model for longevity with regards to quality gameplay.

We have models like the Overwatch model popping up where there's a mixed pay to play and ingame purchases. Not enough data to go on for that one, maybe the cases actually helps them in some form. I do appreciate the fact that they have a paywall for the game though.

>>176117192
kill

yourself

>>176116416
Except Unreal Tournament 4, being a ploy to bring more game industry hopefuls into using their engine, is serving its purpose perfectly fine being used as a learning tool for gamedev both in institutions and by individuals. And you're forgetting that they originally planned on selling both player-made cosmetics and maps/modifications through a marketplace, and only gave up when they realized that, actually, nobody really fucking cared about Unreal Tournament at Epic's offices enough to put an actual team on it, and the game itself is so trash garbage that only the most desperate fans of Unreal Tournament even bothered to keep paying any sort of attention to it after it launched and was obviously just UT3: unfinished edition feat. thinner models.

>>176117029
Did you even read the Dota 2 patch notes of the last few years?

Huge gold bounty if you kill a player that is doing well (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Nerf skill based heroes like Invoker (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add two runes and bounties, because it's too hard for noobs to keep focus on the river (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add a timer for the stun duration so you don't have to learn spells by heart (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add a visual with the exact numbers of the damage you're taking, so you don't have to learn how much damage each attack/spell does to you (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add shrines, so you can regen health and avoid learning to bottle-crow (patch for new players and noobs like you)

And so on...

Yet, there was a huge problem about foreigners queuing on western servers, since DAY 1 of the beta.... and it got fixed... in 2017!

We can see where Valve puts its priorities:

Making the game casual and attracting as many players as possible, to sell more stuff. Easy model, and they're not even hiding it. They said it themselve in various interviews. Their onjective is to make the game as accessible as possible and get a market share of the League players.

You should be ashamed to talk like you know somehing about a game you started playing a few months ago. Using well formulated sentences won't make your statements any more true, sorry.

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>implying 13 lightning gun god medals
>implying the HMG is not the best weapon in the game

>>176116343
Japanese Gardens

>>176117917
With quad hmg is best weapon overall

>>176117805
You see the difference?

They wanted to make the game like the original, AND THEN implement microtransactions. Which is a good mindset, but obviously it faield, because kids don't like hard games.

On the other side, you have Quake Champions who was tweaked TO WORK with the microtransaction model. The devs made the game based on what is popular now, so they could exploit their business model as much as possible.

Is it the right thing to do?

Absolutely, if your objective is to make a lot of money.

Is it a good thing for the classic arena genre?

Definitely not. You just can't have a f2p microtransactions model AND a highly competitive game. If this was Quake Live with a new graphics motor, it would have been less popular, and the whole cosmetics and skins thing would not be profitable.

It's either:

a) f2p

Or

b) highly competitive game

Not both, like you think, because you were too young to play the old games.

>>176118365
Unreal Tournament 4 had a cash shop implemented day one of the open alpha, long before the game even started to look finished you absolute spastic.

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>implying 13 lightning gun god medals
>not just farming squishies with rail

i'm glad we're seeing another f2p quake

abilities is something fresh that the genre needed

hopefully they'll add more dlc toons in the future. wee need some kind of medic for tdm and a turret for ctf

>>176118661

kill

yourself

you

samefagging

piece

of

shit

STOP
RESPONDING
YOU
DENSE
FUCKING
CUNTS

>>176118661
so long as the feature to play classic is in the game, Hero's are a reasonable shot at getting people to play arenas again.

i have a few hours in the beta and the hero skills dont annoy me anywhere near as much as performance issues and other assorted issues that people have pointed out on the forums.

>>176118727
i'm not allowed to post more than once in this general? or am i not allowed to talk positively about qc?
go fuck yourself

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>when you are about to lose the duel but then your steroids kick in

>>176118907
>>176118907
>toons
stick your shitty false flagging up your arse faggot

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>>176118990
>getting this butthurt over a meme
welcome to 4chan, nufag.

>>176119093
>le meme
kys fag

>>176110405
Anyone got the o face version?

>>176118987
I really wish they kept some of the old Q3 designs for champs Hunter outfit for Nyx when?

Sup guys!!

Started the beta yesterday, and I absolutely love it! My favorite class is tank and I'm pretty good at it. By the way, does anyone know at what level I will unlock the g501 purple camo scope for the rail gun? I'm having some difficulty shooting at long distance and a little upgrade would be welcome. Do I need to wait for the full release to unlock perks and items, or there are some in the beta already?

Thanks in advance, and happy fragging!!

>mousesports has an unreal tournament 4 team
haha who are they even playing against

>>176119958
Our shitposter and one other guy probably.

How bots in Q3 manage to hit for 80+ damage with ssg from quite a distance?

>toon
lmao

someone needs to make a mod that replaces Ranger's catch phrases with Duke Nukem's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTw5xXxyKk

>>176122602
>mod
>qc
anon, i...

>>176122708
challenge accepted

>>176122602
all I really want is to hear HUH every time ranger jumps

Holy shit sptx is that you? Are you the shitposter? I fucking knew I recognized that passive aggressive holier than thou but I'm an idiot style of post.

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>matchmaking is fixed

>>176117848
God what a retarded post. Especially that first point one. Gross understanding of the situation and rebalancing.
>started playing a few months ago
I've played this game since Warcraft 3. I played HoN for maybe a year before Dota 2 because my friends played that and then I moved to the game with the beta. The most recent changes I'm not that up to speed on their effects but I absolutely do read the patch notes.
>learning to bottle crow
See this is something that was brought up before when they changed the flying courier invulnerability to be a speed boost. You can find tons of discussion on it and if you're not a newfag you probably have because it was discussed in /d2g/ a lot. I'm happy people don't go there anymore though, place went to shit when 2gd and others told reddit he visited.
Why even bother posting this junk. Also learn to format your posts. This isn't a god damn chat it's an imageboard.

What's the best item for extra mana regeneration?

>>176123702
using bloodstone active

>>176123820
kys

>>176123820
lol

>>176123351
>said nobody
there might not even be a proper matchmaking working in beta

>>176123662
Nice, I'm glad to see that you took 2-3 hours to go do some research online and watch some videos, so you could sound like you know shit.

But the fact is that you'll convince jack shit with your 2 cents replies... Why even bother trying to sound like an expert AGAINST someone that ACTUALLY played the game in question before you were even born, and paid close attention to every single change in the game and the meta.

If you want to argue with me on what is the best set for Juggernaut or any hero... then I will stay quiet and listen to you, because I don't pay attention to these cosmetic gimmicks... So you can feel free to teach me something on that subject.

Peace.

P.S: You could take more time to go search online and watch even more videos, to try to sound even more like an expert in the matter... but the truth is, that you'll only trick the new players, because the old ones all know the real situation.

>>176124363
How you doing buddy?

https://steamcommunity.com/id/sptx

>How long would you estimate you played the Quake Champions Closed Beta?

total or just last beta?

>>176124434
thats reddit spacing pierre? does he have a history?

>join game that's already started
>immediately leave

fuck off, not my fault if people ragequit

>>176125157
>dumb phoneposters call formatting your post properly 'reddit spacing' because they hate scrolling on their tiny screens
lmao kys nufag

>>176125157
I have a strong suspicion its him. He used to shitpost in every hard reset thread saying hard reset was poorly designed and thats why he couldn't beat one part, and when called out saying he was shit at the game he said he was a god at quake and unreal. (spoiler he sucks shit at them)(

>>176124363
>I'm glad to see that you took 2-3 hours
Sorry I have a life I don't sit on 4chan shitposting 24/7.
Also you seem very emotionally invested in this.
It's not a good idea.

>>176125420
Ahh. Finally, someone admitting that he is wrong.

Respect for that.

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>>176110405
>yfw the gate closed and you gotta find another way home

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I've been playing in the closed beta.
It's not very interesting nor is it very addicting.

It's just a simplified Quake with no new interesting mechanics to keep you playing.

It's good if you like Quake, but bad for everyone else who doesn't.

>>176126067
If you don't like Quake then what the fuck were you expecting going into it? It's a game made for people who like the series, go fucking figure.

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It's still too much of an arena shooter to ever be popular. I'm decent at most shooters, at least better than the average shmuck, but the game still allows someone who's REALLY good to basically fly around the map taking everyone, camping your spawns, basically denying you from actually having a chance to play the game, which isn't fun and that shit isn't going to catch on to a mass or even a niche audience. People need a place to start to understand the game and why it can be fun, not just get dominated immediately and never learn what makes the game Quake.

On a more direct, comparison to other Quake levels, my only complaints are the stats for separate characters and the weapon damage. I don't know if lighter classes go faster, because all I've played are Nyx and Anarki and a tiny bit of Clutch, but Anarki and Nyx feel like fucking origami cranes that crumble the minute anyone with an SG, RL, or LG happens to see you. It feels like weapons do too much damage in general, almost like Quakeworld. I don't know if that's just my perception from playing squishier characters though. Oh also, I feel like instead of making three "shitty versions" of weapons they should have just made one good machine gun that actually is useful, because right now the basic MG, SG, and NG are all so fucking worthless you're better off using the gauntlet.

>>176126221
>>176126067

This is what I was afraid of, I'm a veteran of the series and I quite enjoy QC, but I'm not sure if new people will. I'm hoping that proper matchmaking will really fix the game, it will make new people get that rush of actually helping the team. If you're new to quake you can't do much at all against a Vet.

>>176126067
actually im just super happy that my non quake friends agreed to try it and actually enjoyed it

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Am I the only person who recognizes the need for a cheat free gaming platform for PC? Do you have any idea how much revenue is being generated between esports and mtx? It's a lot. And yet all these games are undermined by a problem that doesn't exist on a closed platform like playstation 4, for example.

Would it really be so hard for like Valve, Intel, AMD, Samsung and Logitech to get together and release a closed operating system designed purely for gaming? Wouldn't it be in the best interest for their future to do so? I am one of a growing number of people who become disenfrachised with the lack of legit competitive online gaming.

I've been here since DOOM and have watched every online FPS community fail to stop cheating from Quake to CS. People always think they could just improve the anti cheat technology but guess what sunshine? It has been over 20 years and they never will.

I wish more of you would join me in boycotting competitive gaming and force these fat sacks of shit raking in billions of revenue off us to create a better platform to do so.

>>176126450
That shows one thing...

That it's a casual game.

>>176125610
>Ahh. Finally, someone admitting that he is wrong.
Anon I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. You're projecting a 2-3 hour research project on a videogame onto me. Under the conviction that I'd do that to convince an anonymous user in a general that's not even about said videogame.

Normal people find this very outlandish. I'm sure even most people here find it crazy. But not you. And then you think me saying I have better things to do is me saying I'm wrong? I don't mean to be offensive in general but consider if you've missed taking some pills. This is very odd.

>>176126553
i literally give 0 fucks about that. and they get rekt hard but i carry enough to win most tdms, unless some lvl50 autist comes and fucks me up

>>176114597
>not having a dedicated email account you never read for signing up to shit
this is 4chan not plebbit

>>176114597
>closed beta with strict nda
>marketing stunt
lol

>>176126495
>votekicking is hard: the post

>>176126862
>vote kicking in duel
>vote kicking the good guy on the other team

You really thought a lot about this post I see

>>176126862
A good cheater isn't obvious

>>176111234
make your own maps obviously

>>176126596
Yep. Stay mad.

I hope you had your lesson, and won't try to argue about subjects that are non-familiar to you.

And, by the way...

I'm invested in everything I do, may it be my job, a hobby or arguing with low iq kids on an anonymous board. That's why I was good at competitive games... because I tried to be the best and crush the enemy. Not go cry in the corner at the first challenge, like you and the other casuals here.

Peace, stupid cunt.

>>176127110
Dude you are definetly sptx. Are you still mad? I heard you were buddy.

>>176127110
>I'm emotionally invested in anonymous internet arguments
I'm advising you not to be. You don't sound particularly happy right now. And it doesn't gain you anything.

But I've tried to help, my moral code tells me you're not my responsibility anymore.

>>176126495
No an operating system isn't sufficient.
But I have considered this issue. It has nasty implications sadly. You're taking away control from the users of their computers and it's not trivial to opt out of this system.
AMD and Intel have been implementing systems for verifying software integrity in the sense of there not being malicious code. SEV&SME (AMD) is insufficient to stop cheating but it would prevent cheating among the public like you see with CS. It's less invasive with regards to the user losing control over their computer.
SGX (Intel) is far more invasive and is certainly something which a trusted distributor (Valve) could help game developers implement to actually stop cheating unless/until Intel is maliciously attacked to extract signing keys. The tl;dr of this technology is that every modern CPU today contains have encryption keys in them that let them execute encrypted instructions. Valve would send you a binary that's encrypted (to fit your key) aside from some basic startup code and then the CPU itself decrypts the code that runs and runs it.
The ways you can break this is really only by extracting the key. Which isn't really possible without millions of dollars of investment if the system is designed as they are today.
So that's promising. But it's going to require a lot of work from the side of Valve in terms of encrypting every single byte in every download for every game that uses this technology.

Arguably you can just encrypt important bits but that doesn't tend to be sufficient for secure systems.

Also it would split the community. You can't really ask people who play this secure version of the game to be forced to play with less secure users. Then you're still at risk of cheaters.

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>I'm invested in everything I do, may it be my job, a hobby or arguing with low iq kids on an anonymous board.
holy shit this has to be a troll and not a real person

>>176127573
>not a real person
I dunno anon. Hes/shes made a lot of passionately written posts.

>>176127470
>Also it would split the community. You can't really ask people who play this secure version of the game to be forced to play with less secure users. Then you're still at risk of cheaters

It really wouldn't. Who is gonna wanna play with a bunch of cheaters instead? Everyone will migrate to the superior platform. A purpose driven OS meant first and foremost for gaming has the potential to achieve higher framerates, along with being more secure. Faster, more stable, secure, cheat free. Better in every way.

>>176127674
>>176127573

Friendly reminder this is the person you are arguing with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3O322kzUBA

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>>176127805
>Everyone will migrate to the superior platform.
>proprietary closed source restrictive nanny os
>superior

lmaono

you sound underage

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>>176127110
>I'm invested in everything I do, may it be my job
so you swallow too?

>>176127925
Video games are no longer some small time side activity, anon. It sounds retarded but people are making a good living off gaming be it competitively or by streaming or making yt vids or other, along with the developers raking in billions off mtx and esports. Yet gaming gets treated like some second rate feature, an afterthought when instead it's the moneymaker. All of us here because of it. It's time we demand a legit platform for the future of our hobby.

>>176127848
how did he get it to show hitboxes for items?

>>176128087
>a legit platform
we already have that

>>176127848
what an absolute dogshit player cant even get 1 frag
what is he doing in this thread

>>176128127
its not the hitboxes, in fact its actually much larger than the visible item (even larger in pql mode). Its just a bug in wolfcam

>>176128135
Feels good to be new

>>176128178
overinflated sense of ego

>>176128179
is there a size difference between ql and vq3? it seems easier to hop over items in regular quake 3

>>176127848
thanks for the link

>>176127805
>everyone will migrate to the superior platform
Well not AMD users for one because they're not able to (SGX is intel exclusive tech).
Then there's >>176127925
which are a small group of people.

But there's also pirates. Pirates would hate this because they might actually be punished for what they're doing.

But it's possible that SGX could be used in a less intrusive capacity. Because with it you could implement hardware bans. Even if you don't prevent the actual cheating the penalty could be much greater.
Companies like Valve don't even dole out IP bans to CS players so with that being the current state of things I'm not sure there's actually much hope for these systems to come about. There's some argument against IP bans that don't apply to hardware bans like with dynamic IP addresses at the ISP level. But they really are quite weak.
Valve is clearly not taking all the actions they can to ensure that people who get banned leave the game.

I don't think people care enough. I do understand you though. I care a lot, having blatant cheaters makes the paranoia over covert cheaters quite disruptive. There's no doubt there's more covert cheaters than blatant ones. Yet you see blatant cheating often enough. No fun.

>>176128404
I believe so, but I'm not 100% sure on that. I know for a fact that pql mode in ql makes items taller so its harder to jump over them.

>>176128317
That would explain how he's an "expert" on videogame business models, Dota 2, all arena FPS games, anonymous online arguing with low iq kids and especially arbitrating who's right and who's wrong in every circumstance ever.

>>176128539
thanks
i've been curbstomped like that in aerowalk in quakeworld but at least i got a couple frags and i wasn't talking trash beforehand

>>176127848
>that telefrag 1:20
Who stays around there? There's no good reason to.

>>176128636
>i've been curbstomped like that in aerowalk

Don't feel bad thats literally aerowalk. Even if both players are similar skills its very easy to rack up a ton of frags due to the nature of the map. It's one of the fastest paced maps in Quake.

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>>176128481
The problem is the more experienced you become, the more intelligent you are, the better the player you are, the more obvious cheating is, as if it weren't already obvious by a simple google search of "your game" + "aimbot" yielding results for a readily obtainable game breaking cheat for every even semi competitive fps game ever made that had anyone playing it. I guess I just can't enjoy gaming. Nobody cares about quality anymore. It's not fair.

>>176128618
Stay mad...

By the way, did you get receive your CoD WW2 beta key yet? You were supposed to get it after pre-ordering the game with its 4 DLCs.

>>176111643
These are going back to 90's FPS's, they're not more of Disney's Incredibles sameface that all "cartoonish" CGI is converging towards.

>>176128846
>Stay mad...
>...
Is this you calming down? Good.

>>176128846
looks like you are an expert on being bad too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3O322kzUBA

>>176128636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHhe_LE00XU
I wish hal-sama would insert his RL (rigid limb) into me and fire it over and over on aerowalk..

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Remember Quake 2 at 5PM PST. We'll probably be server hopping since there's hundreds of empty servers free for the taking.

>>176129365
What's the mega link?

if they don't get rid of the zoom damage by next beta I'm dropping this game for good

are there even any ut or reflex players in this thread or is this literally quake general

>>176129447
>reflex
>ut
>players

>>176129396
If you mean where it is, it's in the OP. The mega link comes with quake 2 starter and the .pak files for quake 2 and its expansions. Everything else can be downloaded ingame.

>>176129447
Yeah but everyone I playing QC now because it's new. Ordinarily I mostly play QL, CPMA and Reflex.

>>176129447
Nope.

I'm currently playing Quake Champions, but I usually play Halo, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty Infinite Warfare, Overwatch and Battlefield 1.

What is "UT" and what is "Reflex"?

I quickly searched on the Xbox store, but I couldn't find anything. Can anyone aware me one those games/mods?

Cheers.

>>176127848
I mean, I figured as much.

>>176129479
I go between Quake and Reflex but out of all the dropped balls AFPS has had lately UT4 was dropped the hardest. I'd be down for organized 99/2k4 stuff.

>>176129447
that /v/ speck guy hosts ut99 every week

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>>176120054
Q3A bots don't give a shit about things like fair reaction times and weapon spread/falloff.

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>>176129949
>Aero: 32-0
>Camp: 32- -2

>>176129949
You're not worried that if you keep this up for long enough you'll eventually exhaust your stockpile of extra chromosomes?

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>>176130127
I like this.

>>176130345
>>176130127

Fuck man I remember seeing a video where someone mirrored aerowalk and just walked around it. It was unbelievably disorienting.

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HEUERGH HEUERGH HEUERGH
OWW
THNN BWOORR
TYOOIAYY
HNNNG

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>>176130421
It's really fun to play with friends.

>>176130309
???

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>>176128823
>tfw the only way to get anything resembling cheat free competitive fps gaming on pc is by using a xim 4 mouse adapter on consoles

>love quakeworld movement
>can't use anarki for shit
the fuck am I doing wrong

ME OOGA
TEAM BOOGA

>tfw too high for qc

>railed off spawn
>respawn into 3 enemies
>leave

fun and well designed game

will they add some form of damage text batching in the future
just going against someone with the lg or sng or hmg and you cant actually tell how much damage youre doing to them
its all just "keep holding m1 and hope for the best" right now

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>>176132938
In Quake the way you determine damage delt is the uniquely corresponding wav file that plays a different grunting sound when a player is hit that corresponds directly to how much health they have left

>>176133231
I'd say they should bring that back but then I remember how fucking awful the sound engine in QC is.

>>176133413
It's not in QC already? bahaahahahaahaha

>>176133231
well yeah
that was just a low health indicator
but until they add damage text batching so you could see a SINGLE NUMBER instead of just a sea of sevens i cant stay satisfied
its especially hard to count damage when everyone has different health values and different shield values from spawn

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>tfw every TDM game you get queued against full team stacks

think im done with this semen slurping game for the weekend

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I'm going to marry Hunter.

>>176133498
It's not just a low health indicator. It tells precisely how much health they have left in increments of 10 IIRC

>>176133498
I think that's just something you learn. The low health indicator is enough. I haven't noticed it in QC though.

I'm having trouble keeping track of my own health in the game even, there doesn't seem to be good enough feedback when getting hit on how much damage you actually took. I don't know why I feel that way but it was fine in just about every other AFPS. Never had to stare at my HP counter before.

>>176133581
does she have an integrated toilet

>>176133679
yes, it's my face

>>176133589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7n1xxZCyEg
Close enough.

>>176133696
Visor?

>>176133640
na, the hud is just an oversaturated mess
it needs to be tweakable like in previous games, also FUCK hp and armor pickup rounding, this game makes me very very angry sometimes, every second death feels like i died to bullshit

>>176133746
Ah, 25. I'm retarded. My Q2 guild leader made custom sounds that verbally stated the health values. Good times.

>>176133481
I mean, it might be in and just inaudible under the fucking mess that is the sound engine.

>>176133820
i would gladly replace my head with a metal mask and get a stupid haircut if it meant having the privilege of hunter using me as her personal toilet

A turret hero would be f*cking amazeballs

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that's it, I'm done, no more until next beta, gotta end on the highest note possible

>>176136109
I can't tell who you were playing as, how am I supposed to know if ur gud?

>>176136109
nice, I've had a lot of super close games

there's got to be some basic matchmaking because most of my matches have been pretty even and fun

>>176136289
it's not like one of the rows is highlighted or anything or there's a medal saying that i placed 3rd

>>176136349
most of my games are me + levels below 3 vs dudes that have level >100 combined, and when 30 seconds in it's 1:21 I usually alt+f4

>17 failed captchas
epic

>>176136546
I'm talking about the champion you played, they're all censored. damn nda

>>176136670
are you legit retarded

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>>176136546
>17 failed captchas

tip: theres a small button at the bottom to get a new captcha, do it until you get one of the easy ones

pro tip: turn on legacy captcha

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>>176136748
it was a joke

on an unrelated note what are we gonna play for quake 2 night? I wanna play some CTF with grapple hooks, shit looks fun.

>>176136902
My plan is to start with DM, see if we have enough people for CTF then ask whether or not you nigs want to play instagib CTF or normal CTF, then do some Chaos DM, Action Quake 2, and then WODX.

No offense to anyone here but when communicating with AFPS players outside the game do you get the feeling they're genuinely retarded? Not just internet-retarded I mean actually clinically-proven-grade-retarded. Not all of them. Not always. But sometimes they're just completely oblivious to the world.

It's entirely different with SC2 friends, chess friends or even colleges.

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>>176136902
Your pic reminds me of this.
Great game.

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Sorry but I won't be able to finish it today, it went from just nyx showing tits to a 2 person scene there is some action downstairs = more work = more time


>>176133696
very good post

>>176136546
well if you are a ragequitter you might get matched with other leavers

>>176137542
DOG

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>try to rocketjump
>forget i have the quad

>>176137680
>not rocketjumping to rail ond dm6 while killing 4 charging scaleniggers then switching to rail and destroying their sorry respawned asses again
literally pleb tier

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hunter w hen

>>176136546

same here

its always me and 3 level 1-3s against 3-4 level 20+ players

>>176137248
You're mad, cause you're bad.

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>>176137542
YES

>>176137890
>needing to RJ to rail
>not b2r
>not orbing

>>176137890
you literally cant kill a charging scalebearer
he gets like 50% damage reduction

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I wish grenades were back.

>>176138802
kek.

As much as I love quake4, it had the worst version of phrantic by far. My god I hated playing on it so much

>>176138467
>he gets like 50% damage reduction
It's 75%. And that's good. 50% would be too easy.

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>>176137542
>cowtits

>We're extending this beta cycle until Wednesday, May 10th

woooooooo

>>176138912
It's 50% you pleb

>>176138912
it's 50% you pleb

>>176138940
pedoshits leave

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>>176139227
So if you don't like big tits you are considered pedo now?

>>176139227
Poor men like big breasts while financially secure men prefer smaller breasts.

>>176138958
source please, I don't feel like checking

>>176139465
>now
lol
fuck off pedo shit

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>>176129447
>>>/vr/3836267

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>>176140367

>>176140454
facing worlds worst CTF map

Can someone tell me why soundtracks in ut worsens with every iteration?

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>want to get into arena fps after almost 10 years of tf2
>can't enjoy the games because the only ones playing are people that have been playing nothing else for 15+ years and my tf2 skill doesn't translate

qc and ut4 can't come soon enough. i need other noobs to play against, not fatal1ty tier veterans.

>>176110230
Firat /arena/ thread ive been in. Who is sptx and why do we care?

>>176140816
They never contacted the guy who did tbe Deus Ex, Age of Wonders, and a good portion of the UT99 music for any of the sequels.

>>176140842
Just keep playing it's really not thay hard to get into unless you're trying to become a serious duel player.

>>176140842
this is dumb logic. the problem is nobody plays not the players are too good. if they made a good arena fps game then matchmaking would work properly. all they need to attract tons of noobs is lots of cosmetic mtx and random drops to keep them playing plus a sense of competition/esports to make them feel important. and the game has to look good to sport their gay outfits in. coulda had all that without mobaquake if idsoftware weren't retards.

>>176140842
By playing with other noobs you can figure out everything by yourself. By getting wrecked with veterans you can get a fuckton worth headstart by analyzing what they do better.
>>176141147
Can you just get the fuck outta here?

>>176140816
I like some of the UT3 remixes, I have the album

>>176141613
That's the catch. I fucking love main theme by Jesper Kyd. They are all good, but they are remixes.

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>muting the awful voice lines in QC also mutes the announcer
great design

>>176141830
Rom Di Prisco has some nice tracks on it, they're not UT99 GOAT status or anything but they seem like a nice fit for the game and an extension of UT2004.

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>>176140035
I can't find one on the closed beta forums. It still says May 7th on the client too. Would be really unfortunate if this was true because of quake 2 night.

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>>176142031
>Ranger lines
>bad

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>>176140035
Not only is it not true, but the next round starts on Friday instead of Thursday.

>>176142254
BRB GETTING A MATCH IN

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a champion with remote mines as his ability would be fr*ggin ep*c

tf2 is a casual game

>>176142565
How about tactical nuke?

>>176142031
>muting my nigga ranger
I know a good slipgate to shove you in

>>176141408
not gonna happen bitch

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>>176007424

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>wants to stay competitive
>doesn't play on a crt or a monitor with strobing backlights

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>>176143489
>wants his eyes to pop

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>>176143709
>caring more about your health than sick fragz
haha i bet you don't even do methylphenidate

>>176143709
My eyes don't bother me any to speak of on lcd strobed compared to CRT which used to fuck my eyes up badly. Not sure why. It's not the refresh rate. I always used at least 85hz on CRT

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>>176143489
My CRT is only for grampa games.

What are the chances they'll reduce the required upload bandwidth for the game?So people with 1mb upload speed could play the game with high fps.

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>>176143485

>>176144191
high, I think

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>may 12

if they don't nerf SOMETHING about the tanks in this game it's literally just going to be overwatch 2.0 in any gamemode with a semblance of teamplay

the charging retard and sorlag need to be reworked in some way
one of them gets cheap kills and the other gets "hit f to instantly delete anyone in front of you" while also having the best starting stats in the game and still being decently mobile. it's not quake at all.

>>176144940
[baby crying sounds]

Thoughts on Red Eclipse?
Thoughts on Cube 2 Sauerbraten?

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>>176143489
>wants to be competitive
>doesn't upload his mind into computer directly to control his toon better

>>176145134
i remember when i was in the overwatch beta
i got responses exactly like this when i complained about shield faggot and hook through walls man, didn't even consider buying the game for that too. please sit down and let the adults talk about balance while you sit in your playpen of epic lizard waifu memes. i can't let another fps die on me, i'm starving.

>>176145225
I play Sauer for years now and pretty good in it.
t. Tengrichan

>>176114149
At least Siege lets you disable that garbage

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I hope it's normal I'm still shit after 6h of gameplay

>>176145342
maid costume for sorlag when?

>>176145634
how shit are you talking here

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>waah mama heavies took 3 rails and didn't die
>waah mama heavies abilities are too cheap
lmao
t. non-vet scalebearer who doesn't cry and deals with it

>>176145342
not him but I don't think the tanks are overpowered. they start off on better footing but they need more resources to get back to a decent stack. all of their abilities are extremely gimmicky sans the Clutch shield which is really underrated in duel and TDM. They're huge rail and LG bait.

>>176145134
>>176145567
I've never seen a person deprecate themselves in such a way. Carry on.

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>>176145659
literally 1.0 KD, I only played TDM

>>176145651
it's only really a matter of time until the money gets to their head and they start making cosmetics
that are terribly artstyle destroying. as long as sorlag get's a nerf she can get a taunt where she mates with ranger for all i care.

>>176145771
people like this i refuse to believe come from a quake background, is this the overwatch crowd transferring over or something?

>>176145861
I'm sorry Anon,it's terminal.

>>176141147
Never gonna happen, look at how dead UT4 is
>>176140842
Just give up on arenafps and wait for MidAir which will attract a lot of new people because its novel and not as intimidating as arena shooters, and at the same time wont have as many people adept at the Tribes gameplay, so you'll actually have a chance at catching up instead of getting stomped by people whove been playing the same game for 20 years.

>>176145861
how? play around item pickups and the map itself, it's really not hard. time armor spawns or camp around a gun you're familiar with. play the crutchy tanks or something too i guess.

>>176145784
starting off on better footing would be fine except that advantage doesn't get enough of a disadvantage to make up with it. it's not their stats i have a problem with.

>>176146127
>how?
performance anxiety slash tilt or I'm just too old to learn a new game

>>176146032
People have been playing Tribes for almost 20 years now.

>>176145861
in most of my games I see people with 1.0 kdr are that way because they don't strafejump, stomp along in predictable paths and don't dodge anything. They just sorlag/scalebearer trade off the work of their superior teammates. If they're going to play like that they need to be Clutch on Burial Chamber/Blood Covenant and just dominate the RG area with the RG.

>>176146345
you're never too old to learn a new game. you need to calm down and take things at your own pace, there will always be a class of bad players and a class of elite, it's just how things work. getting better is a matter of only paying attention to what you're doing wrong. if you're playing to improve (and you're having fun) then you're quaking the right way imo.

>>176146032
midair looks like a neat tribe recreation, is it supposed to be F2P or something? i see something about backer bypassing the levelup system or whatever.

How good is slash's crouch slide compared to anarki air control. Can you turn as good or if not even more?

>>176146416
The community is much smaller than Quake's and its full of shitters who use scriptpacks and expect everyone else to use them because they could never figure out decent anti cheat.

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melee is fun in this game

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>>176147431
About the same amount of turn control, and if you act like you're circle jumping on the ground with it, you get a huge speed boost.

>>176147431
I've launched from balcony(using the small stairs) to bridge to rail
she's the fastest/most agile champion

>>176148006
can you silde left then right and right then left as easily or does that slow down ur speed.

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stop talking shit and post your fuckin webms

>>176146032
>Never gonna happen, look at how dead UT4 is
Which part of UT4 fits the desription I gave exactly because it's none of them besides "looks good" and that's the last thing needed not the only and it needs all of it to succeed. there's nobody even marketing ut4 and it's pre-alpha. Not to mention UT was always less popular than Quake making it a poor example. You must be really fucking dumb to even bring it up.