/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>176104828
First

>ywn fuck an elf maid

>ship design guide says to make cruisers
>have much more luck with flak destroyers and pure artillery battleships
AI really likes missiles for some reason.

>>176105281

>he fell for it

>>176105281
Have you only fought other empires so far?

>>176105281
No one can completely agree on the ship meta. Ive heard people swear by Destroyer spawn with 1 kinetic artillery. I use a mix of cruisers with plasma destroyer pciket guns corvette torpedo BBs with only atry and BBs that are really CVs.

Torpedo Corvette Spam is all you need

>>176105281
It depends what you're fighting really, optimising your fleet for your enemy will always be better. The KA/Mplasma cruiser is just the best take-all-comers ship.

>>176105389
>Ive heard people swear by Destroyer spawn with 1 kinetic artillery
Well it is the new Lancestroyer.
RIP Lancestroyer.

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I think the custom faction creation system for endless space 2 is looks pretty good.

>>176062993
>So you have take psionic ascendancy and use its buggy mechanics to swap founder species before you can enslave ayys?
You can use the Caste System (pops enslaved only on Food and Mineral tiles) on both the founder species and xenos if you're Fanatic Xenophile + Authoritarian. Or if you want to be Swedish you can even choose to give Full Citizenship to xenos while using Caste System on your own primary species.

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>Want to play immersive space Jews
>search the workshop

I don't know what I expected

>>176105710
Is the Visual Affinity selection going to include minor factions as well? F.ex. if you wanted to create playable Hissho or Bhagaba empire.

>>176106093

Truly a great work of art

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>>176105710
>Atheists

Dibs Bedora

>>176106134
No idea, I got the image from this thread.

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forum/65-general/thread/24794-small-question-to-the-devs

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>>176106093

>tfw ai is near xenophobe FE
>tfw they keep trying to settle near them
>tfw the FE destroys their fleet and starports and shit
>tfw going in and claiming their undefended planets

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>>176106093

>outliner tells you how many planets each sector has
>doesn't tell you the much more useful number of systems
paradox please

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>>176106927
>he doesn't know what this means

Why is decadent a trait? Since when gene makes you more/less likely to be an enslaver? Why does it take a genetic engineering to get rid of it? Are you calling whole species evil?

>>176107094
>sector

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>>176106093

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>mfw using multiple crisis mod and AI get early Jump drive from debris of an Awaken FE fight

>>176107730
rip your galaxy's anus

>>176107212

tl;dr, the whole civics/ethics system is fucking awful and doesn't even play to its own potential strengths

>Can't recreate British Parliamentary Monarchy, but are forced into a Weyland-Yutani shitshow or citizen stratocracy even with entrenched aristocracy

>Can't replicate antebellum US and be egalitarian, yet tolerate slavery

>Can't even go for Imperial China where slavery is outlawed, but your leadership is still decadent

It's like a fucking cartoon, and has so much missed potential. Victoria 2 had entire quest chains that drastically altered your politics and mid-term goals based on conflicts of ethics. An interstellar empire should have that times 10.

>>176107984

I'd like if you could actually pick your government's name. Being forced into being an Irenic <type> just because you pick pacifist is fucking stupid.

>>176107472
do sectors care about amount of systems at all?

>>176108092
no, that's the funny part. A sector can control an unlimited amount of systems without any loss of efficiency.

>>176108092
No, but they only ever build one construction ship and take forever to build stations.

>>176108032

Just Paradox being Paradox

>dude role-playing is all our current system has going for it lmao
>dude we're gonna take that all away but you can build habitats now lmao
>dude just buy our upcoming dlc lmao

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>>176107212

I wish it got replaced with Eusocial trait for ant-like aliens. Also, there should be aggressive, subterranean, parasite and other traits.

>>176108376

That would be bad for multiplayer balance though anon :^)

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Will settling here piss the xenophobe FE to the northwest off?

Also check that planet name in their borders

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>That awkward moment in multiplayer when you and your friend share the same flag, have the same taste for color, and spawn next to each other.

>>176109416

Is this Rome or the Soviet Union though anon

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>science directorate
>one faction pops up, they love science, easy as fuck to please, stay like that through entire game

>imperial cult
>authocratic and lots of government ethics attraction boni
>pops 5 factions that hate the fuck out of everything and are impossible to please
>fucking commies among other things stay 20% strong despite having 6% attraction for many years
>keep spamming edicts and buildings to get that shit together, nothing helps

Well, I've learned my lesson. Only rationalism will save the galaxy.

>>176107984
>Can't replicate antebellum US and be egalitarian, yet tolerate slavery

That'd just be Egalitarian Xenophobe. USA was cool with slavery because God made all men free but blacks weren't considered true men. Xenophobe allows you to enslave ayys whilst keeping your own people free.

>>176109539
>not being a hive mind

This is pretty fun desu, do miss the influence but I certainly don't miss autistic pops joining factions that I despawn by enslaving them for 5 seconds.

>>176109484

Yes.

>>176109539

How do factions work? I never had any problems with them and mostly ignore them. What are they meant to do?

>>176109669
Well, I just wanted to try to play dictatorial spiritualists for once and go psionic route to check out the Shroud.

I think it all fell apart when I stupidly agreed to a war where the reward was three ceded planets which instantly went into insane unrest.

Seems to me like the best option is to either purge the fuck outta filthy xenos, or liberate them and then vassalize them.

>>176109898

Slaves can't join factions so you can just put foreign pops/undesirable ethos pops into a caste system type slavery then put them on food or mineral tiles. They won't bother you any more after. Factions despawn if there members hit 0, so if you enslave everyone, bye bye faction. Best to do it before they get a load of members.

>>176109758
Largely just a way for you to change ethics in-game, so you can start Pacifist Xenophobe, rush all the Ascension rewards, then swap to Militarist Xenophobe and purge everyone.

If you get pops who are members of a faction that is opposed to your government's ethics, they get unhappyness but likewise, I've never had an issue with them really.

>>176109758
They also give you influence.

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How i get back Xenophobe trait?
Somewhere i lost it long the way and it got replaced with Fanatic Militaristic.

>>176110421
you embraced an ethic on the faction screen, didn't you

>>176108170
you know you can build stations within the sector yourself right?

>>176110465
I suppressed and promoted some, option to embrace was always blackened
I just want my slaves back from my now 2 vassals

>>176110421
why would you want xenophobic when fan Mil Spiritualist is objectively the best ethics combo in the game

>>176109758
Factions supposedly cap the followers' max happiness, meaning followers of unhappy factions will also be unhappy pops. They have a set of demands that when met increase happiness, and when ignored decrease their happiness.

If you got a really happy faction they also give you extra Influence. You can also spend influence to suppress a faction (decreased happiness, but less followers) or support it (increased happiness and more followers). If there's a faction that has enough followers, but it's not your governing ethos you can spend a big chunk of influence to embrace it and change your governing ethos altogether.

>>176110659
It doesn't cap you retard it sets a base.

>>176110421
Use the faction system, promote your xenophobe faction if you have one.

If you don't, fighting ayys tends to cause one to appear.

>>176110695
Oh right, I was actually wondering why it was so easy to never get unrest despite having plenty of unhappy factions to the point I could ignore them altogether.

>>176106093
Holy shit.

>>176110781
tbf it should cap, because atm an unhappy faction just means slightly more likely to be unhappy pops whereas happy factions means easily 100% happy pops

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Is it possible to grant colonies independence if they're not viable vassal targets?

I want to release these two planets with a hive mind pop on them before they're purged and everyone hates me.

>>176111237
sell them to someone else

>>176111237
no, because this game is shit

>>176111237

Next patch is going to add the option to peacefully displace hiveminded pops.

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I must be terrible at Stellaris, i have to cheat with console commands my influence because it's always negative and can't keep it up

>>176111613
Make less outposts.

>>176111613

stop signing naps and defensive agreements

>>176111613
hover influence, take screenshot
>>176111686
>naps
don't cost rep, you're thinking guarantees

>>176109416

Best prep the battleships anon. Having the same color is unforgivable

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>>176111686

>stop signing nap

t. bootlicker

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Is there actually any difference between peaceful and aggressive first contact protocol for Xenophobe?
>Peaceful contact
>"Greetings anon"
>"AYYY SCUMM FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
>Aggressive
>"Greetings anon"
>AYYYYYYY SCUMMMMMM FUCK OFFFF REEEEEEEEEE"

>>176107984
I am still mad sycldari are no longer a direct democrary

>>176112379

>Is there actually any difference between peaceful and aggressive first contact protocol

Roleplaying :^)

>>176112379

First contact setting just allows you to attack a ship or not the first time you meet them. It's nothing to do with what you're thinking.

Does anything else happen after the gas bros relocate to New Baldarak? I got the physics research from it but nothing's happened since.

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>Decades if war agaist Awakened Empire
>Tons of resources lost
>War goal: Total victory
>Win war
>Instead of "Annexing" the AE like the description says all their planets are just purged
>Before I can colonize their planets the other Emires just claim them

Im so mad

>>176111795
> NAPs don't cost rep
> Wonders why he has no rep

>>176113180
1, I'm not that guy
2, they don't

>>176113180
Only Defensive Pacts cost influence.

Which is something I only learned recently myself with all the pussy ass empires crowding for my protection.

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>>176113460
Federations cost influence, so do guarantees.

What's up with shield regen? It doesn't seem to scale the same as cost and max shields with the different sizes. Is it always best to use them on small slots where possible, to get the highest regen value?

>>176114134
Shield regen is already horribly OP. Why do you want more?

>>176109248
Checked. Also probably not, not yet at least. Xenophobe FE's only get pissy when your borders actually clash. I'd say go for it, it'll take a while before your borders meet theirs and that planet is sweet. Also good luck with the Infinity Machine.

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>>176114223
>good luck with the infinity machine

Thanks for the response m8

Anyway, I think this area is no mans land. There's a guy to the south of the pic who lost his entire fleet a long time ago before I met the FE so I assume he settled the planet (has continental pref.) and then got cleansed.

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Alright so Nationalistic Zeal and Warrior Culture won last time for the Fanatic Militarist/Xenophobe Imperial state for flavor.
What about the traits of the species which gave rise to such an imperium? Flavorful of course. Extra info about the species in question in the left pic.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12905125 (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/12905129 (embed)

>>176114306
You decide if the investment is worth it anon. If nothing else, definitely slap a Frontier Station in there for that sweet, sweet Mirror of Infinity boost.

>>176112379
If your first contact protocol is aggressive, and your fleets are aggressive, they'll REEEEEEE at anything that comes near them, even if it's an uncontacted alien vessel.

If it peaceful, an aggressive fleet will ignore uncontacted alien vessels.

It's a really minor difference, most people don't have their fleets set to aggressive all the time anyway.

ai is building a dyson sphere near my border
can you steal a mega structure with a frontier outpost? topkek if yes

>>176114427

I don't think I can afford to potentially lose all my level 5 starports and my 11k fleet to an FE. I'm surrounded by people who are defensive allied who none of which like me, so it's not worth it I don't think. Feels bad, man.

>>176114690
> Allowing your neighbors to all ally against you
> Letting the diplomatic situation spiral out of control
Honestly you deserve to lose.

>>176114751

It's not that bad. I out tech and out fleet them all and I have a rather large vassal. Combined, they can take me, but I also have allies surrounding them. It's a weird situation. It's kinda like real life, where all the pricks ally with each other cause nobody likes them, all the others ally with each other because they like each other. They won't last; but we will.

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>Be United Nations of Earth
>Form galactic union of free sentient species, defending liberty across the galaxy by bringing citizenship to all the people of all the worlds that you conquer
>Become an ascendant machine consciousness controlling a third of the galaxy
>Revoke citizenship of all meatbags, become monarchy due to the influence of non-Terran non-egalitarians
>Federate with minor nation in the galactic south and a major empire in the galactic north
>Annex all Fallen Empires, including one Awakened Ascendancy, for yourself and for your vassals and federation-mates
>All by the start of the late 23rd century
>yfw

>>176114690
Sure you can, you only need the slightest bit of border around Pantagruel. Just experiment with Frontier Outpost border range. If the FE starts to throw a fit, just remove it, no biggie.

>>176113556
You really have to wonder why. It's almost always you protecting some weakling.

So if everyone here hates purple mana (influence) so much, what other method would you use to simulate societal clout and government control? How would you limit min maxing and expansion?

>>176115529
I'd copy EU4's autonomy system.

>>176115430

Yeah. Don't see why it costs me to protect someone. Guarantees should just be a friendlier version of rivalries, so you should gain influence based on distance.

>>176115629

How does that worked? Never played Blob simulator 4.

> Rivalries now accumulate a long standing prejudice against opponents
> Prejudice provides various war bonuses such as increased damage, increased ship build speed and reduced wargoal cost
> Prejudiced pops will be much unhappier and much more quickly purged than unprejudiced pops.

>be wormhole master race
>declare war on hypercuck
>cant stop laughing as his other hypercuck ally try to stop me steamrolling them

They fell for the meme and paid the price

>>176112685
Thats the first event right. there are a few more things after that. you likely will not consider them bros for long though.

>>176116336
What's the deal with hyperdrives being shitty and wormholes being the new master race?

>capture a planet
>build stuff on it
>purge the pops on it
>terraform it

What happens to my buildings? Do they get deleted? I'd assume so but ya never know

>>176116445
Hyperdrives were always shitty. That's why people picked Hypercuck-only games so they could abuse the AI against the weakest FTL in the game.

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>>176106093
Oyy Vey! mod name?

>>176116445
Hyperdrive is only good for flavor in one-FTL-type games. With the pre-FTL mod that I use hyperdrive is the least useful of the 4 types of FTL, so I use it almost never if I can avoid it. Warp is useful for making snap offensive decisions without having to worry about infrastructure. Wormhole is great for moving within your own borders and is good for offense if you can handle the micromanagement that comes with building transgalactic infrastructure for large warfleets. Once you get Jump drive it's all irrelevant, though.

Unbidden just spawned near me and i only have 50k fleet, reee, is game rip?

>>176116761

Yup lol

>>176116620
>>176116702
Thanks, anons.

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>>176114820
Conclusion:
>Win game
>Victory screen has a description of the message that's supposed to be there but it has no picture of my empire's leader or anything
>Just a template for a planet, not an actual planet, where the pic of my homeworld should be
>No list of scores or anything
>My empire is also gone
>mfw can't play the post-victory game that I wanted to play

>>176114202
I'm just wondering why it's not the same across all three shield sizes.

>>176117435
Because late game tech is basically just upgrades for tech you already discovered.

>>176117504
What are you talking about? It has nothing to with late game tech, it's the same on every tier of shield. When I say size I mean the Small/Medium/Large slots.

The Science Nexus just gave me an event for choosing between a life serum or an organic computer research.
Which should I go for? The serum one also costs credits, so I guess that's the better option?

Just finished a game is it worth starting a new one or when does the next update come out?

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Would be more if I got rid of the silo for another level 5 mine. Also in the process of getting the gene mod tech so I can make em strong and industrious. This one planet makes up for around 65% of my entire mineral income.

345 a month without production targets but another 15% on top of 150% is hardly noticeable.

>>176117654
Spoiler.
Life Serum is a scam.

I was wondering, should i get stellaris or galactic civ 3 ?
And is there any game where you can play some sort of scenario when a ultra-advanced civilization rule/exterminate the whole galaxy and you have to somehow survive ? (think reaper in the Mass Effect series)

>>176117779
Great, now my Synthetic researcher wants to upload his brain to the computer because Paradox didn't bother to make a check for if your researchers are robots or not.

>>176116470
Nope.

>>176118017
no
and no

Guys

What I should do if enemy bullies me with his 1,5k fleet and i had 450 which was sadly destroyed.

The point is he is not able to conquer my planets with his troop transports because my defense soldiers are hella strong and repel every invasion.

Sadly I am losing % in the Warscore, which means after few years I will have to give him away my 4 planets for free. EVEN if he didn't conquered any one of them, this is truly a bullshit.

>>176106093
Whats the mod name?

>>176118485
can you not build more ships ?

>>176118017
Gal civ3 is a big load of meh. Stellaris is fun for first few hours or if you like "Roleplaying", which essencially consists of daydreaming while playing a game with no soul. Gal civ 2 is the way to go if you are interested in a run of the mill Space 4x. I could give a long winded explanation for about why I say so if you want, but most everyone agrees with this.

The "ohmygod the galaxy is in danger" is a pretty common trope and is present in all 3 games. Tho I'm not 100% sure about GC3.

>>176118485

Early game war is kind of annoying. If you're attacking, you really can't engage enemies while they are around a spaceport. However if you're defending then you really need to bait the enemy into your spaceports and then drop your fleet on top of them. Each starport is 1k strength at the start, so with really any kind of fleet, it'll be enough to hold its own against most until cruisers. They're the best defensive building in the game.

>>176118579
Before I get proper fleet war will be over, also his fleet grows every month. Now is 1,7k

>>176118710
Actually a bait into spaceport might work, just not sure how to lure them into the trap. I could try to send a single corvertte into their system and they automaticaly stop bombarding and follow it. Its also better because I use only hyperlanes FTL

>>176118832

Spaceport bait is usually doable by just having a weaker spaceport than the enemy fleet. Happened to me earlier today, AI just went around attacking my spaceports (1.1k vs his 1.7k) and I would then drop my 1.6k fleet on top of him. He would emergency retreat every time, though. Pain in the ass. Hate game AIs that run away from ANY fight it can't possibly win.

>cancelling before completing research task gives you completion event

Ayyyy

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>that feel when Awaken FE joined your federation to fight the Unbidden

>>176119409
>Not having dealt with all the FEs by the time the Unbidden show up

>new colony finishes
>delete frontier outpost
>borders dont shrink

the greatest feel

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Honestly, where the fuck are my neighbours?
The only Empires i found so far were 1 Xenophile FE who asked if they could put my species into a zoo and when i told them to fuck off they replied "Sorry" and some space elves who seems to believe in the same God of mine considering they are my bitches and bros
Where are everyone else though?

Should I go Democratic or Imperial for my fanatic purifier run? Both seem kinda fun.

>force-vassalise adjacent empire
>start integrating
>573 months
wow thanks pdx

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>can't be a Corporate Dominion if I'm a Fanatic Egalitarian

Really violates my NAP

>>176120687
Starting in an empty part of the galaxy is the best start. If you don't like it, restart game.

So I somehow managed to miss the fact that there's a new Master of Orion game out. People are saying it's alright. Is it? Downloading it right now, what can I expect?

Please don't tell me to get a refund, I really need some 4X in my life right now.

>>176120743

Democracy since you will want all the free influence due to lack of factions.

>>176120936
I don't mind, now if there were some not 20% habitat planets around
Waiting for that terraforming tech to come out

>>176120687
Post details of you empire and species, anon. I need it for inspiration and I'm definitely not shamelessly stealing it

>>176121247
It's a totally original Emperium of Man inspired empire

>>176121039
Don't I get at least a Xenophobe and Militarist faction?

>>176120743
imperial
>>176120832
>not playing with reduced integration times
>>176120876
>NAP
lmao grow up kid
>>176121004
get a refund

>>176121332

Ye, and when other factions spawn if you let them, you will lose influence due to the retarded way it divvies up influence.

>>176121316
My empire is literally called Imperium of Man. I need help.

>>176121623

I hope you get banned like I did for posting that

>>176121623
Shut the fuck up.

Since F Xenophiles get -50% diplo influence cost, can they get free defensive pacts and shit if they go for the Diplomacy opener?

>>176121759
Basically yes

>>176121467
You mean you can prevent faction spawning? Tell me how please

I'll suck your dick

mod name for space elf maids

>>176121825

You can't prevent them from spawning entirely but you can single out the pops that would join the factions.

Egalitarians and xenophiles found the Alien Justice Party and whatnot, the anti slavery anti purge party. So, if you can enslave pops, you only enslave egalitarian and xenophiles, then that faction can't ever spawn.

It becomes fucky when you conquer someone, so just set their species rights so they can't join factions and you're set.

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Does someone know how to avoid this?

I get this "YOU WIN" message and my empire simply vanishes.

>>176121912
Cheers m80

>>176121935
Don't invade certain planets. Trial and error to find out which.

>>176122041
Okay thanks

>>176121935
Brought to you by the brilliant programmers at Paradox Interactive

Did something change about Stellaris traits recently?

I'm forced to stay in the empire design system with 0/0. I can be done with 0 points and a number of picks left, but not 0/0.

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>>176122335

Works fine for me. Are you sure you're not picking a trait your government ethics can't take? Hive minds and communal for example.

>>176122531
I figured it out. Hive minds have a hidden trait that doesn't show up on that screen, so I technically had 6.

>>176122676

Strange. I did the same set up but as hive mind and it still worked fine. Fuckin computers, man.

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>spawn first in orbit around home star
>spawn in pirate territory
>spawn wedged between 2 empires
>spawn as moon behind gas giant
>other moon clipping through rings

is there a mod on the steam workshop with only white men for humans (ironman compatible)??

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>>176123086

what do I miss if I don't have the latest dlc for stellaris? Is it worth it?

>>176123086

Just edit the game file yourself.

stellaris\gfx\portraits\portraits\07_portraits_human.txt

Change the entity part after human_male_05 to human_male_04 instead. That will replace black men with white ones.


Human_05 is the only black
04 white
03 white
02 is some sort of Asian, looks more like an Ayyyyysian though
01 is sort of white, looks fugly though

Mr blades of stellaris

the camera broke again


ring worlds are broke again

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>eating metal

>>176124646

>not getting protein from circuitry

>when you invade primitives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucu_N2uq8XA

>starting system has 2energy 2minerals

What a crock of shit

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>>176124973
This is a random empire I'm playing by the way.

How do you guys orient your galactic compass?

I like to think of galactic north as pointing towards the galactic center, and south as out into the void with east/west as counter-clockwise/clockwise.

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Anyone still cgb around?

>>176123086
Honestly the black men look okay. The black women are just atrocious looking though, skin color completely aside.

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I this a reference to something?

>>176125169
Holy shit my father would love that game.
Will it run on an office computer?

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>getting unironic carpaltunnel from the sheer amount of clicking required to build lategame fleets

I wish I could channel resources into individually powerful ships instead of requiring a 200 ship+ armada after every battle

>>176125668
I used to have a mouse that had a button on it that when pressed would send LMB 3 times. Was so good for constant clicking like that. Haven't come across another since, 10/10 mouse.

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>>176125145
>three systems in my starting borders
>a whole 2 minerals, 3 energy total and a bunch of research
>only hyperlane out blocked by the Dreadnought

>>176125561
define office computer

>rnadmise empire
>get dictatorial space elves with environmentalist and shadow council, fanatic militarist/authoritarian
What ascendancy should I go for, favor-wise?

>>176126132
Computer that can run Caesar IV but has issues running Train Simulator properly.

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>No hive-mind variant where you're an AI managing all your machines

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What would be the bio for Star Empire bugs living in a tundra? Evolved as result of an Ice age? Nuked themselves, turned the planet into Tundra and were forced to selective breeding and militarised culture, to adapt themselves to the new environment?

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Anyone else edit their save games just to name the armies different things?

>>176126950
You could say that previously a humanoid species was the dominant lifeform on the planet, until their civilization was destroyed in a nuclear holocaust. Then, in the resulting nuclear winter, the surviving bugs slowly began to evolve into sentient lifeforms and develop a civilization. Once the bugs learned about the destructive nature of their predecessors, they decided that all humanoid life in the galaxy should be subjugated under peaceful bug rule.

>>176127295

>peaceful bug

fuck off spider man

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>>176106093
Sterling work

Should I buy Civ VI? I've sunk hundreds of hours in Civ IV & V and finally have time to sink more time into a new game, plus it's on sale. The shitty reviews about the retarded AI are giving me pause.

If not, what should I get instead?

>>176128158

Meh, there's nothing really special about it. Not a big enough leap from 5 to 6 like 4 to 5: BNW imo. Needs more mechanics and systems, some reworks, etc. Civs are lacking, too, not many interesting ones. Best off waiting for the first major expansion I think.

Endless Space 2 if you can tolerate space. It's feature complete, just missing a couple things like balance and 1 faction and is out by the end of the month IIRC.

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>>176125547
Before Stellaris was released the devs had a youtube series where they played a game for HYPE. Their species name was the Blorg, who I believe are also one of the rare prescripted empires that can pop up.

>>176128545

I think they can only spawn as fallen empires. Their spawn is disabled for normal empires.

>>176128158
I pre-ordered Civ VI and dropped it after 18 hours. New district mechanic is interesting and i enjoyed it, but a very small amount of nations kinda killed the game for me. Wait for a big expansion.

>>176127650
Who?

civ 7 when

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>>176129087

Long time ago

>survey 9 planets
>get habitable worlds initiative event

Why don't you start the game with this

also what's the reward for doing the animal collection? I did it once during the release week and found it to be a pain in the ass, never done it since

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hmm yes think i'll build a colony over on this new contine-

>>176128935
>>176128454

Thanks bros. I'll wait for an expansion then.

Endless Space 2 sounds interesting. Should I wait until a sale? Or is it already discounted as an early-access because the standard release will hike the price?

I haven't touched Steam in a while and have never bought an early-access game so I'm new to this.

>>176129136
civ 8 when

>Cybrex genocided then gave up
>Irassians got wiped out by a plague
>Vultaums mass suicided because they got redpilled too hard

Never done First League or Yuht all the way. Could I get a brief explanation of their quest?

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>>176126618
>Train Simulator

>>176130165
Hey, he likes trains.
Tried gifting him Railroad Tycoon 3 because I tried it and liked it, he said "you don't drive the train yourself".

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alright fags lets do this

Just bought Stellaris--What's a good government/playstyle to start out and learn with? I made two so far
>Imperial/Inward Perfection/Agrarian Idyll - Xenophobe/Pacifist/Spiritual
>Democratic/Citizen Service/Mining Guilds - Fanatic Military/Spiritual
Would either be good to start with? Or use one of the premade? How do I git gud?

>>176129395
you get 150 society points for each specimen collected, and when I completed all of them I think I got a lot of energy and more society points.

>>176130670
ethics don't really matter when learning the game.
>how do I git gud
AI is fairly braindead so even if your fairly inefficent in management you will still come out ahead of enemy empires who will be starving and barely made any buildings. Only thing you need to worry about is Fallen Empires and thats easy since you can just stay away from their territory and be fine.

>>176130670
First one if you want to turtle tall, second if you want to conquer wide

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>>176130643
found 2 pods so far, one had worms and the other a foil

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I sure love to balkanize. Those guys exist in a state of war since 200 years, constantly fighting each other despite the fact that only 2 species live there.

While other nations field 50-80k stacks, these guys still fight with 5-6k in the year 2400.

>>176129940
First League you basically go around scanning dead worlds that used to belong to them and hearing about how multiculturalism failed, with them all devolving to infighting and killing each other before the thing collapsed. You're never given any specific reason or major trigger for all this social strife, it just apparently happened and they all died.

The reward is basically some pitiful amount of research points, like normal anomaly levels.

I've never finished the Yuht entirely myself, got them on my first game at release but they glitched out.

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>>176131324
brother lal is my neighbor to the west, signed treaty with him

ayys have landed

>>176124646
If that sasquatch says he eats metal, I wouldn't call his bluff on it

Is there any reason to ever go 3 ethics instead of 1 fanatic ethic?

>>176132208
You don't want to RP someone crazy

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>>176124646
>little young automata

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>>176124646
>little young automata

How long after using the console command should a crisis actually show up? I tried to trigger the Swarm and got the coming storm event but I've been waiting for 4 years and no updates.

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>>176131865

ayys to the north, going to try and kill them before they get too powerful

>>176133262
Swarm event does take a while to happen after the initial popup. You should have a thing in the situation log

>>176133676
Yeah, it's there. In the wiki it says it should only be 2-3 years though.

>>176133609
Could use a better coastline.

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>>176133609

pod revealed the rest of the human landing pods, in true SMAC fashion we are all bunched up together in one corner of the map. means the other ayy probably has free reign over lots of empty space.

>>176132268
Rp

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>Decide to fire up Civ V after months of not playing and install the Community Balance Patch overhaul
>Pick Spain for glorious holy wars and explorers fit to colonize the New World
>Fail to actually get to found a religion because 2 slo

I realize the dominated topic of this thread has been Stellaris but would anyone be able to offer tips on not getting beaten to the punch in the religion department? Or, more particularly, advice on playing Wide instead of Tall like the civilization seems encouraged to do. Always contented myself with constructing just 4 or 5 cities in vanilla Civ 5 followed by making them as heug as possible.

>>176135247
Can't help you there, I think the AI cheats it.

>>176129642
>>176128158
man... Civ6 is a big letdown as you would imagine, sadly...
the new design features a good for a while, but the game falls into the same trap of becoming incredibly boring and gamey after a while,
if you really like Civ5, I'd say try it, maybe pirate before buying, I don't really think its worth any price...
for me Civ4 was king and still cannot be surpassed,

Like others said to quench your 4x thirst, try Endless Legends or Endless Space, they're really really good...
if you're willing to diversify a little there may be more stuff

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>slaving despots

Everytime

>>176130165
jesus that is fucking pricey...
>>176130252
transport fever is pretty awesome, not that demanding on computers, better have something good, check the specs

>>176135413
I've seen a lot more authoritarians than I've seen egalitarians, like in a 3:1 ratio in the past 3 games. Is it just a matter of RNG or is more authoritarians intended?

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>>176134181

>Lacking 0.08 minerals

Worst meme

I love you all

>>176135694
wats going on
gotta have story

>>176135660
I've met 8 empires so far in my current playthrough and 6 of them are egalitarians... One is Autoritharian Xenophobe and the last one is spiritualist militarist.

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>>176135694

declared war on the caretakers, going well so far. killed the walker near fort survivalist without losses. also took out the colony pod and former near the ayy base. they asked for truce but i denied.

>>176115529
For one thing it makes no sense for a Hive Mind to need influence considering every single being of the race is of one mind.
Then again a lot of things don't make sense with Hive Minds considering how many events detail individuals with opinions and thoughts doing things when, realistically, it should be the Mind investigating events through the drones. There hasn't been nearly enough of the game rewritten/redesigned to properly simulate playing a Hive Mind race.

>artisan troupe has a tomb world preference

What did they mean by this

Let's say in a 4x game there was a way to accrue large amounts of debt from government spending and/or nations could buy out property and companies from your nation's private sector.

Based on these factors, at some point in the game, they could make a huge trade deal that basically allowed them to purchase cities/star systems from you and you cannot deny the trade deal.

Retarded or interesting mechanic?

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>>176136614

war continues, i can't take their base right now but it keeps the pressure on them so i can build up some more.

>>176137506
retarded. the AI would constantly go into debt causing the player to just eat them up with ease without going to war.

>>176137605

But the cost of acquiring all that business and eating up the enemy player would be comparable, perhaps even more expensive then buying armies or fleets. The difference is just an upfront cost instead of based on production and maintenance.

>>176135768
>Lacking 0 minerals
Beat that.

>Trigger the Prethoryn crisis with the console
>They land smack in the middle of an AI Federation
>They just sit around bombarding planets and not moving
Are they meant to be that passive?

>>176128682
You can set the memers to spawn manually by doing an edit/save on them in empire selction.
They have unique diplomatic dialogue and forcefully good relations with literally everyone but purifiers.
Player-senpai will never notice them.

>>176135549
I don't think he's good enough. I'll get him Pharaoh or Emperor.
Thank anyway.

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>>176137541

high energy chemistry researched, time to gas some ayys.

>>176135413
>not finding the cute lizards, nerve stapling them and setting their rights to domestic servitude

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>replay Mass Effect trilogy
>get inspired for a ME run in Stellaris
>remember the mods are in shambles and only a few of them are updated
I just wanna roleplay as Krogan

>>176135413
But can they save me 15% or more on my fleet upkeep

>>176139530
>not finding the cute lizards, making them Delicious, and setting their rights to Livestock
the fear adds flavor

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So the only way to get a Level 5 Ruler in an Empire setting is Erudite + Talented + Polytechnic Education + Philosopher King?

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Qu fallen empire when?
They get triggered if you go into gene-modding.

>>176111613
old post but just declare some rivalries on your neighbors and make sure you research the empire techs in the Society field when they show up. Depending on what factions you have in charge, make them happy. I play as a xenophobe/F. Militarist dictatorship and I cap on influence easily due to war and rivalries.

>>176140079
It'd actually be really cool if we got unique fallen empires that had long ago already gone through one of the ascension paths.
Imagine a psuedo-Qu FE that periodically harvests pops from other empires and sequesters them within their borders for horrific biological manipulation, and once you get strong enough to bring the fight to them and conquer their planets you just find grotesque mockeries of organic life.

>>176106093

>Earth

Should be named Zion , Gaia or Greater Israel

>>176140305
>Anger this FE
>They Nerve Staple your entire race

>>176135413
They are a PITA - they pay nothing on fleet insurance...

>>176140079
>>176140305
>conquer and purge them
>only fanatical xenophiles give somewhat of a fuck

>>176140928
>they give you a slap on the wrist and move all the mutants on their sanctuary planets so they can live in peace

>>176140079
What if I want to be the Qu and transform my fallen enemies into genetic freaks?
I mean, I guess I can already give them all the worst negative traits.

>>176141879
I already do something like this to empires who've annoyed me.
Nerve Staple + a bunch of other negative traits them release them into shittytude.

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>>176106093

>>176142163
Do you change their habitability preference so that they can still survive but only just?

playing my first major run of Stellaris...

Playing a enslaving empire of insects. Ended up really lucky (found the infinity machine and earned a +5% bonus on research) and due to empire military buildup due to some really powerful pirate clans, I was ahead of most empires tech wise.

so in 100 some years I control about 50% of the map, I have friendly relations with a fungoid race that doesn't give me trouble, and have enslaved 6 empires, and balkanized another one with a friendly power.

Trying to say away from the FEs and had a issue that I didn't see a nice world was a holy war and suffered a humiliation when I decided to abandon it after it was demanded by one of the FE.

Now I realized that the victory condition is worlds actually settled, and not worlds in your domain. So Influence is the main bottleneck as I am sending colony ships to establish colonies throughout my space.

Now some dumb questions.

-How do you set your designs to be upgraded - I can upgrade the base ships or the ships I obtained after integrating a vassal. But right now my fleet has about 2-3 generations of ships in it and I would love to upgrade them without scrapping and replacing.

- Is there any way other then changing the tribute amount to take energy credits and minerals from your sectors?

-I know what costs influence, but is there a way to increase it by buildings or such?

>>176142357
>>-How do you set your designs to be upgraded - I can upgrade the base ships or the ships I obtained after integrating a vassal. But right now my fleet has about 2-3 generations of ships in it and I would love to upgrade them without scrapping and replacing.
there's an auto-upgrade option, but I don't use it. I'm guessing it would update your designs as new weapons and modules are researched?
>-Is there any way other then changing the tribute amount to take energy credits and minerals from your sectors?
Until next patch, yes. Next patch you can use influence to drain 75% of their reserves.
>-I know what costs influence, but is there a way to increase it by buildings or such?
Buildings, no. Factions and tech, yes.

>>176142768
And I am guessing that influence is the main bottleneck to prevent rapid expansion?

>>176142768
>designs as new weapons and modules are researched?
I am not sure it is working, but I will just allow attrition to weed out older ships unless I have a long peacetime.

>>176139656
Most of the sprite packs don't have to be up to date, they work just fine despite them saying they're not updated. Ships might be a whole other issue though.

>>176143262
>And I am guessing that influence is the main bottleneck to prevent rapid expansion?
Assuming you don't get boxed in by other empires, then yes. Aside from edicts and special buildings, or defensive pacts/alliances if you're a pussyfaggot the only thing you'll be spending the bulk of your influence income on is frontier outposts. Pro tips: you can tell what kind of world preference other empires have just by looking at the planet's surface in their background. Use that to tell whether or not there's worlds they can inhabit nearby, and place outposts there to deny them the expansion.

>>176139656
I really want to replay Xcom2 again after my current stellaris run, I got such an itch for it.

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So is Stellaris worth 12$? thinking about getting it on humble monthly

>>176144024
You could do a lot worse (a lot worse being full price).

>>176142357
If you want to upgrade your ships you can just make it so you have one type of each class. It'll make them all the same when you upgrade.

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>>176144024
Good for RP, and knowing Paradox they're just going to keep adding stuff

>>176144024
It's shit without the dlcs

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>>176140079

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>Nomads contact me
>"Hey bro, we noticed you don't usethat space Detroit down there. Mind if we settle one of our tribes there?"
>"Eh? Oh, ok"
>"Thx champ"
>First thing the tribe do is closing broder " if you get close we stab you" nigga style and now i have this fucking ghetto close to one of my biggest mining system
Should have know it

>>176138353
They can only 'colonize' uninhabited planets, and they expand by sending their version of colony ships to them; their fleets are mostly passive. Read the wiki for more information.

Why does Imperial have no effect on your ruler level? I feel like it should either make you have a very proficient ruler, since you're basically groomed from birth to rule, or give you an incompetent failure or just, be anything but a basic starter

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>>176144024
>>176144674
This

>>176146584

Government types don't do anything except define your rulers. It's really silly. Hate the changes to governments and ethics they made this patch.

>>176145405
I hate those space gypsies so much...

>>176140079
Or make a qu end game crisis, they come in and start mutating everything they touch, turning every planet they reach into pre sapient status

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>>176140305
>It'd actually be really cool if we got unique fallen empires that had long ago already gone through one of the ascension paths.
>Turn the Robot Revolt into a Fallen Empire who gets pissy if you abusse robots
I feel this maybe better than leave them as crisis that never happens.

>>176145516
I mean that the whole galaxy is already colonized. They're just going to slowly bomb everything so that they can take over?

>>176146680
you piece of shit.

>>176140305
I thought Fallen Empires were based on empires that won the game? That's not the case?

>>176125432
Agreed. Black men look alright but the women are hideous. Turns me right off to the human portraits.

>>176146823
>turning every planet they reach into pre sapient status
I still want my "devolve" war goal.

>>176125432
Because they think it's all a matter of colour when it's in fact more complex than that.

>>176147290
and an option to assimilate, borg style

>>176147290
Are you the Spiral King?

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>>176143501
Nice protip you got here.

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>>176139530
Do NOT fuck the lizards.

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>>176139530
DELET

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Ok I'm going to get the humble monthly. Does anyone know how it works? If I buy the subscription now, do I get every game of the month if I cancel the subscription right after or to get them do I have to keep it until the end of the month?

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>>176149026

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>>176149467
if you pay for one month now, you will get the rest when it comes out and the next bundle is announced. If you cancel now, you just get stellaris. What you do is wait for the next month to be announced+ recieve rest of bundle and cancel then. you won't get charged for next month till june 20th. Pic related.

mod idea: ascension perk that unlocks fallen empire ship classes

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Thanks a lot for the Stellaris FAQ.

>>176151257

Would be cool it it was part of the vanilla game , as an alternative to annoying extra ships mods

>>176151257
even better idea: It's part of galactic contender

>>176151257

Should require you to have eliminated a fallen empire though

>>176152104
are there any good ones that just add different ship types? there was that one mod that adds new ship types like battlecruisers but comes with like 100 other bloated features I don't want.

>>176151257
There are many requests for mega structure: Super shipyard. But if you can steal one from a FE that's a cat too.

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>>176151576
No problem.

>>176152202
I think Realistic Ships only adds a few and they're tied to existing research tiers.

>>176104828
Why must robots and psions fight?

>>176152202

I'm using this one:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=914872677

It's good. Doesn't add any fluff bullshit like fucking tameable ember drakes like that other garbage mod. Carriers seem a bit OP but they take forever to get. Require battleships and are actually worth building.

>>176152804
Because silicons are above flesh and you can't be psychic without a proper mind.

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what are some "must have" ascension perks? i can't quite gauge which ones to pick

>>176152914
>you can't be psychic without a proper mind.
So why can meat puppets become psychic when a proper logical mind can't?

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>>176153221
Because you toasters are nothing but glorified computers that can navel-gaze.

>>176152829
aren't tamable drakes in vanilla though? I killed a drake and got a special project where I could hatch a ether drake egg and when it waxs done I got an Ether drakelingworth about 20k power.

>>176151257
As long as there is one to borrow pirate classes too.

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>>176153445

Bit of a difference m8

>>176152914
So why can't cyborgs get psionics?

>>176153816

Fanatic Materialist:

>There is no 'divine spark' granting special value to a living mind. No object has any intrinsic value apart from what we choose to grant it.

Materialist:

>As we reach for the stars, we must put away childish things; gods, spirits and other phantasms of the brain.
>we must steel ourselves and secure the survival of our race through the unflinching pursuit of science and technology

Perhaps if you read the descriptions you'd learn why.

>>176153563
In 1.6 fanatic purifier hives will get living ships. But they won't get biological looking ships, so it will be even more shit than it already is

>>176153076
is this soviet propaganda

>>176153816

Psionics is spiritualist
Materialist is ANTI-SPIRITUALIST

>>176154205
i see it more as a tribute to the poor brave bastards that risked their lives in shitty communist-built tin cans in the name of space flight

>>176146760
>first time Nomads show up they offer me 15 Cruisers with arc emitters and T3 armor/shields for 2k energy and 2k minerals
>immediately have the strongest fleet in the galaxy because its only like 30 years in

thanks space gypsies!

>>176154249
What if you have neither?

>>176154329
those shitty communist-built tin cans landed on mars in 1971 lmao
to answer your earlier question mastery of nature is a pretty safe bet

Fun fact: If someone is in the process of setting up a colony you can almost instantly wipe it out with a single Corvette.

>>176153816
Because you have to be woke (i.e. Spiritualist) to get Psionics. It turns out they were right, consciousness begets reality.

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>>176154695
>mastery of nature

>>176154815
>>176153816
Because the shroud isn't interested in people smart enough to think deals with extra-dimensional beings of questionable intent may not be a great idea.

>>176154857
hey if you want to research each block remover technology individually be my guest

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>>176154815
>spiritualists who let their dreams become memes awaken psychic powers, super cool running up walls and dodging bullets and shit
>materialists who let their dreams become memes awaken AI trying to kill them

>>176154857
When in doubt,
tile blocker OUT.

>>176155034
Think of the AI rebellion as applied darwinism. If your empire is so weak as to let robots take over then you weren't technologically advanced enough.

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>>176155020
Why do that when could just take voidborne and build habitats that have no tile-blockers though?

>>176155098
When it gets buffed next patch maybe, personally I rush for habitats with my first perk then pick up psionics or cyborgs.

>>176155020
This. Mastery of Nature is by far the best first choice for ascension points.

>>176154958
Survival of the fittest. The races dumb enough to do Shroud deals should be honored they get to go out in a blaze of psionic glory.

>>176155020
Early on removing all the blockers right away won't have any point since you won't have the population to run those tiles anyway. Later on removing them is fucking chump change.
It's a waste of a perk even if you are going super wide.