XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

Swords are not useful

loli mods when

>>176104476
inb4 party van

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>>176104367

WRONG

>>176104813
anime is the work of aliens

we must kill the aliens

>>176105407
>bradford spent 20 years destroying the anime before rejoining XCOM

>>176105482
bradford is truly too good for this world

>>176105407
>>176105482

Lies and deceit of the Alpha Legion!

>>176106294
aliens deserve death

it's literally that simple

So I've been thinking..

There are a couple LW1 perks that I take because they've been recommended to me, but might be suboptimal for my playstyle, especially for the initial roster:

>LCPL medic
I take Steadfast on most medics, but suppression would be really useful and in practice steadfast is both a nonvital bonus and one that only kicks in lategame. So I think next campaign I'll put suppression on all medics except one guy with 40 will.

>LCPL rocketeer
Common wisdom is to take HEAT, but the primary job of the rocketeer isn't to kill robots, it's to shred them. Rockets are a panic button against stuff in general, so ranger would help outright kill floaters and make the carbine or SMG on the rocketeer more useful. Late game rocketeers can take HEAT again to deal with multi-mech pods.

>engineer
I'm thinking of ditching HEAT altogether here and using support engineers only. Early game it's never simultaneously possible and productive to land a grenade on a drone. Later on HEAT grenades do help a lot against mechtoids, but the same guy could be aciding instead.

Post Kelly comics!

>>176110835

Who?

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>>176110981

>>176110981
jane kelly, obviously.

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We stand at the precipice of pushing these ayys off our world.
Lets fucking doing it.

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>>176110016
forgot to add a
>thoughts?
at the end

>>176110016
------Suppression on medics is only useful early game. They will eventually die. Suppression soldiers need tanking perks and gear since they will be shot at and will be hit eventually guaranteed.
------ You need as many sources of HEAT as possible and shredder ammo can be produced. You can also equip shredder rockets regardless.
------HEAT engineers are great if you know how to handle activations. If you can bait drones, seekers etc into buildings you can guarantee your HEAT engineer will be useful on specific maps. THAT SAID support Engis are probably better since their utility of carrying all the support nades while being able to throw them 20% further is too good. Support nader > HEAT nader imo, but I like to build one HEAT for building maps.

>>176112572
>They will eventually die.
I'm fine with this desu.

Why wouldnt the ayys and UFOs just wear mirrors if you build lasers?

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expansion needs to add more sneks

LW Mec chopping screen says that a measure of above-average will is retained, how does that work exactly?

>>176118286
If the soldier's will stat is above the median the mec will receive a proportional bonus. If below the median they will start at the median.

Very useful if someone is crit wounded.

>>176114659
Mirrors are only reflective in a certain spectrum. Often times they're reflective over the visible spectrum. Xcom could easily use a frequency that is non reflective.

Not to mention the logistical concerns of outfitting an entire fleet and how strong alien alloys are.

>>176118520
Do you know if it's a proportional bonus or outright keeping the pre-chop will score?

>Chryssalid controller class.
>Chryssalid panics for some reason
>The Controller gets "hug chryssalid" as a free action to calm it down

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>>176120871

>The controller activates the self destruct device on the chrysalid melting a city square in righteous plasma and alien acid shortly before hatching a new chrysalid from his custom made bio backpack

>>176110016
There's a rapid reaction overwatch rocketeer spec that's perfectly viable that picks up ranger over HEAT.
Ranger > Rapid Reaction > Platform Stablility/Shredder > Opportunist > Extra Con > Whatever

Platform Stablility is kind of huge since its bonus applies to all shots taken on overwatch if you didn't move.

For comparison with infantry.
Rocketeers get 21 aim at MSGT, 2 from RR, 3 from EC.
Infantry get 21 aim at MSGT, could get 2 from sharpshooter but you'd want LNL, could get 4 from EC but you usually get VPT.

With platform stability activated rocketeers get 15 aim over infantry, so it's as if they had the deadeye infantry has but they don't need to give up ranger to have it. You lose 1-2 damage depending on whether the infantry went for deadeye or ranger and gain the ability to shoot rockets.

>>176119528
New_will = (current_will - average_will) / 5 + average_will

Average will is 30

>>176117683
Acid spitting snecc finally pls, not this retarded ice snegg, what the fuck Jake, you're retard

>>175843246
Yeah, nihei has awesome art. The best thing to come out of nihei's work was how it inspired Q Hayashida for her manga Dorohedoro. Blame's action scenes are pretty visually confusing but damn if they're not gonna be excellent animated.

Also, reposting for (you)s and (view)s

https://youtu.be/Q4g_VNgNhQw

>>176121037
I've stayed away from OW rocketeers due to how late opportunist becomes available, but I'll build one to try it. Thanks for the writeup.

>>176121482
For a soldier with 100 will that yields 100 - 30 / 35 = 2?

>>176122397
Nevermind, I got it. ((100 - 30)/5) + 30 = 42. So not enough to be worth worrying about.

I just started a new I/I LW 1.0 campaign and the first mission only had one pod of 4 sectoids that were within LOS from the spawn. Is this supposed to happen?

>>176123113
Sure.

>>176123113
Total for the whole mission? Never happened to me.

>>176123113
This happened to me when I used a mod to make the squad bigger than 8 in vanilla game, I'd always spawn near enemies

>>176123641
Yeah, 4 for the whole mission. I didn't have enough corpses to start Xenobiology and, because of overwatch, my two soldiers who already had kills rolled kills on the other two sectoids as well.

Flawless first mission, four corpses, two promotions to SPEC.

>>176123975
I'd restart, I've never had a first mission like that and I've done hundreds.

If you run a MEC with HEAT every mission is an overwatch based Gunner any good?

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Does XCOM 2 have Civ references

>>176127404
I remember none.

EYE ports when?

>>176127404
One of the exalt base locations hints is countries that are playable in Civ V. Xcom 2 lets you get a cheat character that is sid.

>>176120972
>hatching a new chrysalid from his custom made bio backpack

>not carefully growing a genegineered
chrysalid inside his own body
>the chrysalid has different perks based on the soldiers' class
>the Controller is a secondary skill tree like EUs psionics

would you fuck a lid

>>176128694
No because it's the other way around and the answer is always yes

New here. I just got my first SPARK. It's a goddamn Terminator and I love it.

When it gets KO'd, can I revive it?

>>176133054
>When it gets KO'd, can I revive it?
no

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sweet baby jesus, why does Xcom 2 run like such garbage? What's the bottle-neck in my rig boys?

Specs:
AMD Phenon II 965 BE
8 rams of gigabytes
HD 7950

>>176133992
I don't know anything about hardware, but I have annoying load times despite 16gb ram. Presumably it has to be installed on an SSD to avoid that.

So I haven't played Long War in a while.

I managed to somehow forget to build a sattelite in the first month, so it won't be ready until halfway through month two.

Is it worth restarting? That's gotta be a massive loss long-term considering how crucial early resources are.

I spent resources on tactical layer stuff instead at first so it could be worse.

>>176139113
I'd restart, not because that run is necessarily doomed, but because if I lost the campaign I would be tortured wondering if I threw it away the first month, and making up a month of LW doesn't take too long. It's totally up to you either way.

>>176128694
I'd fuck a queen lid.

And that's under the assumption 'm not turned into a zombie afterward.

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>>176139965
>And that's under the assumption 'm not turned into a zombie afterward.
pussy

>>176140025
Wait, do lids even have a pussy? I think they only reproduce asexually by zombie eggs

>>176140270
They must have at least one opening other than their mouth.

>>176141540
>must

>>176128580
If there was a system to give controlled Chryssalids some soilder abilities (Like maybe a week in a gene holding cell) sure, but not outright sacrificing a soilder for it. I'm willing to make them MECs since they'll remain alive, but not that.

>>176141659
>>176141540
Well, alien or not one must assume they'd need to somehow relieve themselves of organic waste.

>>176141975
Yes and...?

>>176142275
I'm implying that they would have a shithole.

Whether xcom operatives remodel it or not is another matter.

>>176142492
But see this assumption is your downfall. You only need one hole for both ingesting food and removing wastes.

>>176136581
I'm on SSD and I still have 10 second load times.

>>176133992
There's a mod that removes the few second pause whenever you take action, if that's what you're talking about.

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First playthrough done and I'll fully admit to being a lucky bastard because I should've lost 6 soldiers.
Every single one started bleeding out instead of dying outright and we were able to either stabilize them or it was pretty much the end of the mission anyway.

>>176143249
good job commander

>>176142718
That seems real stupid in terms of biology, but them being aliens I guess it's still plausible.

>>176144085
Starfish already do it, and some other sea creatures. I'm sure there are more examples.

>>176144085
>That seems real stupid in terms of biology
You know there are organisms in earth that don't have anuses, right?

>>176126502
anyone?

>>176143246
>I'm on SSD and I still have 10 second load times.
What a joke, even if LW2 is perfected eventually it will always be hamstrung by performance I guess.

>>176143249
grats

>>176144583
>>176126502
I mean, I guess, but the question is, why wouldn't you take more heat? I'm not sure if you can have too much, and what happens when the MEC or gunner get injured?

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>Beags restarts the Thursday Night XCOM program
>Viewers start flocking back in masses
>People picking up some LW campaigns again
>actually uploading content on his youtube
Truly Beagle and LW are ying and yang, ight and dark, destined to be locked in an eternal struggle. They need each other.

I was sure that a building in EW or LW gave adjacency bonuses for both labs and workshops, but I can't find it. Am I going insane?

>>176147657
>Am I going insane?
yes
rip anon ?-2017

>>176147827
I've been playing this game nearly constantly since it came out. Always trying to have workshop and lab blocks adjacent to each other because of this belief..

>>176147927
Well, be free of this curse and enjoy your easier base building.

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>>176148024
No joke, this makes the left side a lot more usable.

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JAAAKE

>>176148992
Correction: LUUUMP

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>>176147105

Word.

Of the Emperor.

>>176144446
>>176144362
I don't mean it's impossible, but for something that huge it's rather silly that it needs to save space biologically by simplifying the digestive system.

But like I said, they're alien so it could still be probable.

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>sectoids run through acid in my luckiest activation in recent memory
>last sectoid is flanked at 1hp, flush him for extra sure kill
>forced move from flush kill him without giving xp

>>176144680
True, but mechanical units are easy enough to deal with in the late game - mectoids panic to psi easy and sectopods can't handle suppression with smoke
Only cyberdisks are terrible to deal with but mecs and gunners suck against them anyway

>>176151172
So is the overwatch gunner going to clean things up your other classes couldn't? And are you just building a council request soldier for late game, or do you need to consider how useful that class will be in the early to midgame? Objectively heat gunners are better, but you could be working from some specifics where an over-watch gunner is good.

>>176151458
Yeah I was going to use HEAT Gunners early game and transition into Overmeme gunners when SGT rewards come in
It's been ages since I played long dong though, does every unit still get lightning reflexes late game?

>>176151839
The thinman leaders and lids get em. I believe that's it. Of course, there is always the overwatch cover bonus to screw you up.

>>176144362
>>176144446
But they're insectoid aliens, and insects have assholes.

>>176152384
yeah so

>>176152449
It is probable that they are more like their terrestrial analog rather than an aquatic invertebrate.

>>176152839
could be

I really like getting both xenobio and materials before beam rush, instead of just xenobio. It delays the laser cannons by a week, but you start getting requests for alloys, meld and elerium a month earlier. The early alloy plates unlock is neat too.

>tfw fuck up after 3 flawless missions and troops start getting killed
>1st terror mission has shit tons of floaters and lids just murdering ALL the civilians before I can do shit
>don't even have CCS assaults so shit my pants as the lids rush me but luckily I used a flashbang

>>176155025
Maybe I'll try that. It would be doubly effective with France start, and more tactically prudent than gauss rush while still being beneficial strategically.

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Please provide badass shiv names

>>176160197
enemies everywhere

>>176160197
MIND OVER MATTER
I'VE LOST SHIELDS!
WEAKENING THEIR INTEGRITY

>>176127404
i think late era infantry are modeled of ew troops

>>176155025
Alloy plates are only useful with carapace.

>>176162873
>Alloy plates are only useful with carapace
Tell that to my scouts and gunners

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>>176162873
I build 2-3 and use them to make sure everyone's health is at least 7. 3hp soldiers can't get there without, and if none of those are around it still lets assaults and scouts wear mobility armor.

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is there a mod to tweak soldier height? want to have proper spartans.

>>176163239
Well that's ok I guess.

>>176163298
There is actually. It changes soldier proportions. It should be on Nexus for XCOM ONE

>>176164164
I like the proportions in XCOM1. Probably not a popular opinion but I always liked it. I don't really like realism in games, I prefer some creativity and my troopers to look like football. The mods in XCOM2 though are awesome too bad the game is broken to have tactical fun.

>>176164481
I agree, the big guns and giant men look cool.

I only played LW2 briefly when it came out, but it seemed garbage.
Is it still garbage?
t. LW1 beater

>>176165180
1.3 is supposed to buff xcom being able to engage in firefights consistantly, introduce a new smash and grab mission for regular rotation, and kick stealth in the nuts. We have no idea when it gets released besides Soon (tm), but it's supposed to fix or attempt to fix alot of the issues lw2 currently has. I would wait till it releases before giving it another shot.

>>176165586
Just watch the 1.3 streams to see the changes. Every mission looks way more hectic

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I thought only armored UFOs like destroyers and fighters get the purple coloring?

>hate lw1 infantry
>love lw2 rangers
Don't know how they did it.

>>176168168
I think that means it's hunting for you satellite.

>>176168180
>hate lw1 infantry
how and why

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>deleted lw2 campaign to play 1.3 back in march
>it's still not out
>in 10 days fleeing to america and will have a shitty laptop instead of my machine for half a year at least

>>176168549
muslim or russian?
lw1 is better anyway

>>176168652
>muslim or russian?
da.
>lw1 is better anyway
nyet.

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>>176169000
i was gonna wish you good luck but the numbers are already with you

Air ga- I mean submarine game soon, fellow humans!

>>176160197
YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO COMPLY
THIS ROBOT IS PROGRAMMED TO SHRED YOUR ARMOR

>>176104308
Pistols aren't useful.
>>176121936 says so.

>>176170642

What will the WaterRanger be called? And the pilot BigSea?

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>>176181120
This is BigSquid, permission to deploy the squad 5 by 5.
This is Bradwater permission granted.

>>176168180

>hate lw1 infantry

I mean they aren't the best they've ever been but I'd like to hear why you hate them.

They're essentially carries in early game, being able to fire twice in one turn is powerful on it's own, but in vanilla it's matched with heavies with poor aim. Mixing firing twice with good aim progression and other abilities that increase crit, damage and aim, you can develop soldiers that can reliably hit enemies in half cover pretty early on into LW.

>>176170642
source?

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civ mods when

>>176186630
you're a big guy

Where can I find some XCOM EU pre-release videos? I want to see what changed between release and previous versions

>>176104210
Worst fucking xcom

Airgame is a fucking mistake

Airgame anon can go to hell. Also, he must be arrest for collaborating with ADVENT

Based robojumper

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=921154022

>>176191812
what the hell is this sorcery

>>176191812
The images are taken using a literal camera: A sensor and a photo flash (neccessary because of Post-Process effects not applying to the sensor). This means that you'll have a short flashing light when a photo is taken.

The images are created by inserting little markers into certain animations. When that marker is hit, a capture is attempted. This is because there are a lot of bad times to capture an image, such as when the unit has closed eyes etc.
The animations are the peek animations for units that can take cover, the idle animations for units that don't take cover.
Additionally, for soldiers, the markers are added to the idle-in-cover animations.
This means that modded units should work, with the exception of units that aren't just re-colors / re-sizes. From the top of my head, I recall Drones and the Celatid. They will get added at some point.

If a capture takes longer than 150ms, the image is discarded. This is because the unit may turn away during that time, resulting in the image not framing the head correctly.
If a unit is currently not visible on the screen, the capture will not be taken. This is because the attachments (hair, helmet etc.) are only updated when the unit is shown.

We are playing XCOM. This means that even the camera can miss from time to time. Should an image be just bad, there is a little red X above the currently selected unit in Quick Soldier Info. Clicking it clears the picture, and a new image will be taken as soon as possible.
You should move the unit somewhere else before clicking that button, or it's likely that the new image will be equally bad.

>>176191812
>>176192230

But why

>>176191812
>>176192230
the fuck

>>176192296
>>176192692
samefag

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>>176193707
But why? Like why would anyone do that?

>>176193924
Rule of cool or knowing robojumper, he does a lot of things as proof of concept. That a thing can be done.

And probably testing out his coding skills and seeing how far he can go with XCOM 2.
Pretty creative implementation, strange as it is.

>>176194167
Well I meant, why would anyone bother with samefag by commenting on a bizarre mod (on the technical level), but I don't disagree.

>>176194274
It's 4chan.

>>176104210
The modlist doesn't have the Arnold and Ellie voice pack. They're pretty cool.

>>176192230
>We are playing XCOM. This means that even the camera can miss from time to time.
Amazing

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QoL mod idea: when moving a soldier that has abilities or equipment with limited range (grenades, rockets, trench gun etc.), all tiles that are targetable from the highlighted tile are indicated with different colors for each ability.

>>176197342

>We are playing XCOM. This means that even ________

>>176198243
How ugly.

>>176198719
wut

Has anyone tried liberating whole world before completing the game in LW2? Do I get to peacefully research everything then?

finally finished xcom after letting it sit in my steam inventory for ~4-5 years

now gonna get 2nd one but everyone in this thread is posting 1. did you all play 2 and go back to 1 or hwat

>>176104210
>2)Jake spoke at PAX East on March 10th on the growing pains of rebooting XCOM

All he needed to do was create a moddable EW but underwater to mix it up a bit aesthetically, more polished and bug free and better visuals. Instead he chose to rebuild the engine which completely broke the game tactically. So now we have less strategy map and less tactical options since LOS is as bad as terror missions in EW.

>>176202281

Pretty sure most posts are about Xcom2, that said, pretty much everyone here has been playing Xcom2 for over a year, so most are looking for a change of pace and stuff. Nothing wrong with 2 if that's what you're wondering.

>>176202281
I stopped playing 2 because I played the shit outta it and am waiting for expansion now

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>>176202281
It's 50-50, it's just that 2 and 1 are different games instead of the usual case where the sequel completely replaces the original. And LW1 is amazing.

>>176202834
This. 150 hours is too much. Playing Long War 1.0 again though because there aren't any good new XCOM games.

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I'm lonely and need to socialize, I have people in mind who want to hang out with me, the thing is I have massive social anxiety. I wish gaming LAN places still existed, I have trouble with other social settings.
I wish I knew people IRL who like playing games like XCOM. I like to relax a lot for fun and that doesn't really fit in with people nowadays.

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>>176203319

>it's that time of the month again

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>>176203513
if it's that time why aren't you providing the service

>>176203319
>has people who want to hang out with him
>social anxiety

meanwhile me
>no social anxiety
>generally disliked for having shitty sense of humour and being too upfront

is there no healthy balance?


also, why are sniper sneks so fucking cool?

>>176203319
>>176203513
>>176203603
>tfw doing Psychiatry rotation

Had a guy with social anxiety come in. He wanted to hang out with friends and coworkers at bars and stuff but honestly he preferred going home and playing WoW.

He also had a daily routine that he was very adamant about. I suppose it was British politeness but he probably wanted to say that he really did not fucking like to break his daily routine.

Psychiatrist advised him to perhaps take things in stride. Go on a Friday or weekend with friends but don't stay at the bar/restaurant the whole night. Take things in stride slowly, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc.

Surprisingly even though I was a student I was asked for advice. I said to go with friends to wherever they're going but keep it part of the daily routine. So you're grabbing food as takeout for yourself and you chat with a few of them along the way.

Anyway, I'm in the same boat as you. Pretty sure I know only 1 person IRL who likes XCOM. The rest of my friends play Monster Hunter or some other. Shit, the girl I like doesn't even play video games aside from the occasional Mario Kart.

Fire Emblem Heroes drew a lot of players. Might want to look into that.

>>176204186
You sure it's not autism or just an unpopular personality trait?

>Nagas are cool
FUCK THEM

>>176204383
>>Nagas are cool
>FUCK THEM
yes, that is the point

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>>176204316

That case reminds me a bit of me, i used to have a social life when i was younger, but i would often prefer to just stay at home and play videogames, fast forward to 7 years later and my social life has completely evaporated.

Not really sure if i miss it or not, i do miss going to the movies with friends, now i'm too lazy to go to the movies at all, last time i went to the movies was for force awakens.

Thank you for reading my blogpost this message will self destruct in 5 seconds.

>>176204514
From a medical standpoint the lack of social life isn't too worrisome, but the "lazy to go to movies at all" is.

Movies aren't cheap that is true, but the worry is if you've lost interest in things. If you still watch or pirate then okay.

>>176204609

Yeah i still pirate movies, i'm just lazy to go out to the movie theater. Too bad i have to wait who knows how many months to watch Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

>watching cam rips

no way fag

>>176204726

GotG 2 was pretty fucking good. Probably not too long if it was popular? Then again Rogue One non-cam didn't come out until last month.

What if Satan is an ethereal and controls our whole world right now. What if everything in this world isn't how it is supposed to be and what if there are people trying to warn us but we ignore them? What if the good side ethereals step in and wipes everyone going along with the shit in this world.

>>176205191
ok

>>176204383
It's really a combination of a few things. I have this shitty tendency to make comments on things that make people insecure without realizing they could feel that way. So most people think I'm a dickhead, but my intentions are very rarely malicious. Add some autistic sense of humour to make things harder.
I generally find it very easy to meet and talk to people, but very hard to make actual friends. Luckily, the few I make usually stick around, but that happens like once a decade.

>doom timer at ~6 days
>"It's cool, I have this HQ assault, alien gate and alien forge to do now"
>turns out HQ doesn't remove doom points
>gate and forge require full infiltration

I guess this is it then

>>176205565
Infiltrate both at the same time, there's a chance the aliens will miss all their attacks.

>>176205936
I might still be able to salvage it
4days 17 h on doom now
turns out that I can get infiltration down to 4d20h if I use 7 men squad
I also have some spare intel, so with boost I'll be able to make it

>>176198243
Why don't you ask the Gotcha Again guy if it is possible?

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The squad has almost surrounded the pod, los is nearly perfectly broken, next turn there will be killings. Would you break los with the assault to guarantee the floaters come forward, or or hold the forward position by hunkering behind the fragile meld cover, likely forcing the floaters forward anyway?

Sectoid commander/gatekeeper mass raising corpses they cannot even see is the most shit mechanic of LW2 and the definition of anti fun. NERF NOW

Fun is a productivity-killing chinese hoax

Productivity is a buzzword invented to make people feel guilty for enjoying life

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Is it retarded to skip low profile on a 5-defense guy?

Buzzword is a meme that was introduced to easily "win" arguments

>>176211296
And yet memes are buzzwords that was introduced to easily "win" arguments

>>176211482
meme just means a word that's unusually sticky/effective at conveying something
so yeah, effective words easily win

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>>176211482
The concept of memes existed before buzzword was a meme, and was not invented to win arguments

>>176211565
A meme doesn't have to be a word

stop being autistic and post your current game

>>176212087
>>176211258

>>176211258
what's the difference between scout and sniper in LW1?

Winning arguments is a meme that makes people toss shit at each other instead of chilling the fuck out

>>176212348
Scouts can't shoot across the map, but have lightning reflexes. I find them closer to faster, utlility-focused infantry than a sniper. The earlygame scout can use low cover and shoots once, like a BR infantry [but BR infantry can also do other cute things like fire+steady, at the cost of no lightning reflexes]. Lategame scouts shoot multiple times like AR infantry, but trade all the crit and damage perks of it for neat tricks like the ability to use low cover, battlescanners, LR.

They're a very hard class to grasp at first because their perk choice is so varied they're in practice a mix between like four classes.

Officer Bradford? Yeah, I know him by that name. Hell, I worked with him in '15. Back then we called him John "Sweater Central" Bradford because he never came to work without that green sweater of his.
Most would call him insane, but that is why the council chose him. They saw potential. It wasn't until they learned his lines that they truly realized what a monster they hired.
You see, most guys that go ayy-hunting take guns. Not John. No, he took swords, ka-bars, arc throwers, sometimes nothing but his bare hands. After a few missions I got a chance to talk to him in the mess. He was wearing his blood-stained sweater, headset, and dress pants, talking to Vahlen and drinking Chrysalid poison. It was contraband, but you NEVER told Central what he could and couldn't do.
I asked him why he never took guns with him. He lowered is head and told Vahlen to fuck off for a moment, pulled off his headset and looked me right in the eyes, piercing my soul.
"I do it out of respect. Respect for the human race. These space-AIDs infected scumbags don't deserve the mercy of an Earth-made bullet, but the slow torturous death of the hands of a human!"
In a flash he pulled out his weathered, but razor sharp knife and stopped just short of sticking my gut. "The look in their eyes when I slip this baby into their swollen, psi-controlled brains is reason enough. To see the last lights flick off in their heads as they see a real killer work."

>>176211258
Your sniper should never be in LOS of ayys

>>176213180
why sniper rifle then? nothing of this seems like a sniper rifle would be good on them

>>176211258
>>176216121
Oh nevermind it's a scout I'm blind. Yes, take low profile.

>>176216246
Scouts don't get a sniper rifle, they get a marksman rifle (model is the same but shorter due to modding limitations). The with the marksman rifle, you can move and shoot. It has more damage than an assault rifle, but suffers aim penalties if you get too close.

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>>176216246
LW has more weapon versions.

>>176211258
>skipping defence on a scout
Other people do the killing. Your scouts need a ton of survivability.

>>176218103
It was tempting but I went with the safe choice.

Free items? No thanks
Turret? No thanks

>>176202834
Wait, is 2 going to have an expansion?

>>176224794
It desperately needs one to bring it up to par with EU/EW. I started with 2 as a friend gifted it to me to try it and it wasn't until I went back and played EU/EW for the first time recently that I realized just how badly XCOM 2 needs an expansion.

>>176225053
I sure hope so.

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I'm struggling with thin men on early game crashed scouts. Lowrank soldiers are very slow at killing them. Easy missions like this are ones where I expect to get to the meld too, so it's a big waste when everyone gets too bogged down healing acid and hunkering and there's no time to go get the goodies.

What tactics or highrank soldiers do you use for April-May crashed UFOs?

>>176204316

>Pretty sure I know only 1 person IRL who likes XCOM.

I know literally one person IRL who I even bothered playing video games with past high school, they're pretty much my closest friend sure but I know literally nobody else from IRL.

Your best 'gaming' friends are most likely going to come from the net, from communities, from teamspeaks, clans or just discords/chats etc. from my experience and from other people I speak to.

Depending on the country you're in and if you look for people of your own nationality, you might end up meeting up with some of them or organising events, if you live in a larger country not so much.

>>176225053

Honestly I think Xcom 2 has spread itself too wide, though I do like the game itself.

The DLC expansions for Xcom 2 so far feel like sectioned off, instanced things that don't fit in super well with the base game, something feels off about them, even sparks to a degree.

I guess you could say the same about EW but I feel that Long War 1 pulled everything together into one narrative and story, like a complete package. 2 is still finding it's feet, then again I wasn't playing Long War back when it was an EU thing.

>>176229364
They don't fit well because they're more like character side stories that don't impact the main story in any way at all, whether it be filling in the gaps or expanding on the lore.

I assume they designed it that way intentionally so you don't feel like you're missing out on too much for not purchasing DLC

>>176229364
I wouldn't say the same about EW, EW is implemented in a way that goes perfectly alongside the base game's narrative of "How far are we willing to go to achieve victory"

>>176232786
>>176229364
EW is integrated, but the dlc for X2 is pretty much just like X1's dlc. Side stories that have unique difficult missions, not randomly generated characters, and big rewards.

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>>tfw no Cyberdiscs and no Archangel Armor to fight them with.

It hurts.

>>176235881
XCOM2 has zero replayability too. It feels souless. I can't wait until beagle does a TNX of reasons why XCOM2 is no good, if he was serious about that.

>>176236820
Not sure what you mean. It's the exact same game with more stuff in it. I mean, I miss the SHIV but that's about it.

>I can't wait until e-celeb justifies my disinterest in game
Opinion discarded.

>>176236820
>I can't wait until beagle does a TNX of reasons why XCOM2 is no good
This won't ever happen though, because that's not what Beagle believes. So you'll be waiting forever.

>>176235881
Getting flight armor for the first time was one of the best feelings.
>I can do WHAT now?

>>176237127
>Prefers a game bloated with stuff and LOS issues and clicking a timer for strategy

>>176237546
>X2
>Bloated
hmmmm

>>176237681
>Oh but look at all the cosmetics!
>Yay I can dress up Ken and Barbie how i like!

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>>176237546
>I want less features and content in a sequel

>>176237828
>I want needless bloat and less actual gameplay in a sequel

Enjoy playing dressups and clicking timers.

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>>176201525
From what i've heard ADVENT sends offworld "super reinforcements" but i've not got it yet. Only 2 regions left unliberated for me so far. Makes sense considering that Xcom has legit stolen the world from them that the Ayys send a full war host.

>>176237546
>implying eu/ew had no los issues
There's a medium UFO that has a door you can see through that you have to avoid when setting up a breach fampai.

>>176238641
>There's a medium UFO that has a door you can see through that

In XCOM 2 this is every single building, including the all new LOS through floors feature in that new engine.

>>176238942
sounds like you need to git gud

>>176237943
Again with this tired nonsense. The cosmetic stuff doesn't affect the game at all so I don't know why you're throwing a bitch fit about it and the gameplay is exactly the same with XCOM. Have your last (You) from me.

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>>176236820

It does have some replayability if you like playing with mods and cosmetics but that only will go so far.

>>176237429

This. It was Awesome. I miss it.

Anyone else just not do the last two missions for X2's campaign? I was replaying the game for the first time since release and enjoying it. Then I got the network tower mission and realized I'd have to trudge through that long-ass final mission again pretty soon. So I just deleted the save file and called the campaign there. That shit takes forever.

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Would anyone be interested in a mod that brings back the F1 screen? Not making any promises but curious if people miss it.

>>176241503
It would be pretty useful, but might be hard.

>>176241503
I've seen a lot of people say they miss it. But it sounds like it'd be a tough modding job to reimplement.

>>176241503
F1 screen definitely deserves a return. Also would be extremely helpful with modded units.

>>176241836
>>176241602
>>176241572
There's already a proof of concept that's packaged in another mod, but it was hastily done. We'll see.

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>>176191812

I made a thing
https://vimeo.com/216584562

>>176246816
I really REALLY like this thing

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>>176246816

>>176246816
>MAX POWER
MAXIMUM
AND HIGHER

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>>176246816

That thing is a nicely done thing.

What is the highest amount of enemies you've seen before on screen in Long War 1 /xcg/? Include screenshot if you have it, I'm trying to give my friend an idea of how many there are in the late game.

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>>176248981
Not mine, but I think it fits

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>>176248981
I like quality over quantity.

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>>176248981
I know I've gotten crazy amounts of exalts triggered when hauling ass to extraction but can't find any screens

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aalmost got a perfect terror and then asshole floater pod in the corner of the map killed 2 in one turn

>>176250723
>killed 2
>14/18

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>>176250810
that was merely when the dream died

>>176246816
Make the couch proximity mines, and Ned JLump.

>Jake, Gollop, Lump
>Give twenty million dollars to one, become best friends with one, have sex with one

Time to choose.

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>>176250723
Perfect terrors feel so good

>>176251458
20mil to Gollop, best friends with Jake, sex with Lump. Can't stump the lump!

>>176251458

I give 10 million each to Julian and Jake, become good friends with both, and then we all gangbang Lump.

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>>176229364
I think the difference being is that alot of /xcg/ compares the DLC's to EW which was a full expansion pack itself. In such i was hoping though that xcom 2 in general would have a bit more story like missions and split off missions that X1 in the first place.

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Can a flashed lid make 5 tiles in one move?

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>>176246816
Holy shit. I don't even like beagel & i love it.

>>176253316
Pretty sure it can move 10.

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>>176253316
Anything is possible if it believes in itself.

>>176253721
Thanks.

>>176253316
they have up to 22 mobility
flashbangs are a 50% reduction iirc
i think it's divide by 1.5 to turn mobility into tiles so 11 divided by 1.5 is 7 tiles
their lowest mobility is 20 and that's still 6 tiles when flashbanged

>>176254231
it's a 40% mobility malus, aim is -50

>>176246816
>https://vimeo.com/216584562

This is amazing.

>>176246816
How do I do this with my own face.

You guys watch exosquad ever? Has an XCOM feel to it.

>>176246816
Someone needs to tweet this to bagel. IT's a perfect intro.

>>176255285
done

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>>176105407

ANyone know when to research MEC, psi, genemods and captures? Do I get captures going before that?
Also is it possible to mod in a perk that gives medics an AOE buff that makes nearby soldiers immune to acid attacks?
Long War 1.0

>>176254231
>>176254387
extra thanks, I'm not sure how much they moved exactly but it was more than 5, yes

>>176256112
Well, part of the beauty of LW is that there's no decisively correct choice, it's about what you want and what you need. I think a lot of people get MECs in the summer [something like adv beam->mec]. Personally I do the capture stuff when I find myself with money, summer it tends to all go into sats and workshops and gear..

>>176252959

>let me in, don't you believe in fairies?

>>176256720
Yeah I'm focusing on my airgame, even with lasers it's starting to get hard to manage, that said I am training up two topguns to have 10 kills each. Also I want to take asia for the foundry discount.
Typically how many interceptors should I manage per continent? 4? Or should I go all out and put 6 on each?

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Phoenix Point ayys are interesting. Not sure what the interest is of combining human dna with ayys, looks a bit silly.

>>176261956

I don't know, they both have their appeal but frankly the PP ayys just look like Demons to me, especially that one.

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>>176246816

Awesome Thing.

>>176261472
I end up with 5 on each plus an extra continent of 6 that just transfers damaged interceptors around. The extra slot is for an emergency transfer if I need one. That's with two continents with satellites and before firestorms.

>>176262709
>the PP ayys just look like Demons to me, especially that one.

This. There is already an overload of fantasy TBS, I really don't like that they are ditching the sci-fi feel for that. I wanted ayys combined with our underwater species instead. Little octopusses with sectoid heads, mutons with shark heads and ethereals that are squidlike, plus a million other things you could do. Instead we have something that looks like a TBS souls game.

IS sci-fi ded?

>>176263805
scifi has just been tropes since the at least the 70s and 80s so take that how you will

>>176263805
>>176265452
>monsters aren't sci-fi
I really don't see it that way.

>>176267047
They are fantasy.

>>176267168
But why? Are you trying to say media with monsters in it is not sci-fi? You would have to throw alot of sci-fi books, shows, and games into the fantasy bin then. I really doubt you could produce a definition that properly separates sci-fi and fantasy while throwing stuff like Phoenix Point definitively into the fantasy bin. I mean, that's like saying System Shock 2 is fantasy.

>>176263805
I mean, Phoenix Point is going for a Lovecraft vibe, so it may be "fantasy" in that sense, but we also mentioned last thread that Gollop wanted to do Terror from the Deep right, and TftD was pretty lovecraftian too (T'Leth, Deep Ones, and so on)

I like timers

>>176268320
timers aren't sci-fi

>>176268320
I understand your opinion, respect the fact that you made it and that it is your opinion to hold and that opinion on the matter is entirely subjective and no one person is wrong.

However, fuck you and your shitty opinion.

>>176268950
I liked airgame and made it harder by removing firestorms because they look dumb

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>>176269184
>made it harder by removing firestorms because they look dumb

>>176269184
Are you a masochist?

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>>176269184
>>removing firestorms because they look dumb

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>>176270825
>>176269506
>>176269310

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>>176268320
Me too fellow gamer. I also enjoy the bugfree experience that is XCOM2, I find it funny when that feature they put in when the camera it sometimes misses! Hahaha, RNG is so much fun man.

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Will they ever top MEC Troopers?

>>176271217
i hope but idk

>>176271217
They could have at least reused these animations for SPARKs

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>>176261956
>vagina heads

>>176271405
>that animation when a spark throws a grenade
i wish they could have used the grenade launcher of the MECs for that one

>>176160197

'Bughunt'
'Graveplot'
'Man Eater'
'Big Stick'
'Hound Dog'
'Pugilist'
'Shocker Zulu'
'Diamond Dog' (alloy shiv Only)
'Ol Hardstop'

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>>176271823
It would probably be very easy, the skeleton and rigging is exactly the same as ADVENT MECs.

They probably wanted to maintain a distinctive silhouette. I've seen it before with Mordin Solus' collar thing, it was added for that very reason. Artists are funny like that.

>>176271823
I wish sparks were MECs that were just piloted by soldiers.

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>>176273209
But thats what a MEC is

>>176273376
Without the chopping. SO MECs became a vehicle.

>>176273467
So like one of the cargo lifters in Aliens.

>>176273209
So SHIVs?

>>176273589
Yes.

>>176273615
No, but I want SHIVs again, maybe in the form of a ball that opens up when you fire.

>>176273670
>maybe in the form of a ball that opens up when you fire
Sounds like a SHIV made out of Gatekeeper tech. I like it.

>>176273670
>No, but I want SHIVs again, maybe in the form of a ball that opens up when you fire.
something like the spark bit?

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S M O K E
M
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>>176276904
Why did XCOM as an organization choose Red smoke specifically?

>>176277216
idk ew xcom picked purple so maybe its just what they have in quantity

>>176246816
Well fucking done.

>>176276904
what's in the canister?

>>176278102
M u c k i n g
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g A b o u t

>>176277216
Cherry because it was left over from war surplus and nice and cheap.

>>176278182
>>176278102
smoke would fit right into xcom with all the warcrimes and what not

>>176276904
The health UI in XCOM1 and 2 is truly disgusting.

>>176278338
I mean we already have Chem Grenades.
He'd be right at home.

>>176278385
Thats modded UI.
Why is there always one retard that starts bitching about something like its a vanilla thing when its modded.

>>176278479
The vanilla is just as bad.

>>176278385
Vanilla sure, Numeric Health Display is great. Makes it alot easier to read everything on the fly.

>>176278385
>>176278804
Vanilla 2's is easily the worst of the two. At least in EU you can count by 5's for the majority of it but with 2 its just one row and all they do for higher health values is make the bars smaller

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>>176278914
>>176278804
idk why they didn't make it numeric+symbols/colors to indicate whats what in the first place desu

>>176277216
it makes aliens horny

>>176279037
I don't know why they didn't make it a readout at the bottom or top of the screen when you select them and a small unobtrusive digit readout next to the unit. The game looks good but it's visuals are ruined by a shitty UI.

>>176278914
it also lets lw1 get those hilarious health bars that cover the screen

>>176273670
I want spider SHIVs.

Anyone here watch scifis? I'm looking for something to watch inbetween XCOM. I liked Expanse and wished there was more, I'm considering rewatching bebop, bstar galactica and firefly, can't really recall anything else that's a worthy scifi. Watched any good scifi lately? I wish there was an XCOM series.

>>176279848
>I wish there was an XCOM series.
SG-1

>>176279848
/tv/ sci-fi is garbage. Read books instead.

>>176279951
>x medium is garbage
pls m8

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>>176270954

Not liken them FIrestorms is quite a huge Derp right there and there.

>>176279848
The film Oblivion is kinda like XCOM if XCOM lost twice in a row.

>>176280416
Oh boy, XCOM 3

>>176283556
this guy has more hair on his arm than beagle has on his head

>>176283885
delete this post

is this kino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOAfHt8QE88

>>176283902
they hated him for telling the truth

>>176261472
I find that the number decreases the more continents you have. Since the aliens have a set number of missions and a lot of them always go to countries with a sat, putting up more just tends to spread the interceptions out, not increase how many you have to do.

>>176287393
Do I just aim for two continents? or 3?

>>176278914
>>176279638
I think EU's health bars are perfect, they fit in and they aren't intrusive, to me at least. They fit in less when LW1's tougher enemies show up, but by that point you've been losing them a lot and are used to them so they don't really break immersion. And it's way more functional than vanilla X2's minimalistic bullshit, but that goes without saying.

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He really likes that game huh

>>176288771
People in australia are shit at games because our playerbase is so small. That said Beagle is actually talented at gaming and has the time to practice so he has a massive advantage. Plus he seems naturally in tune with PUBG gameplay.

>>176276904
>mag weapons vs muton elites
feels bad

>>176284067
>rush b
kekd

>>176284067
reminds me of street sweeper in LW2

>>176287581
I think you gradually increase how many you have, the question is more about when to go for 3. I get to 2 in June, but I'm playing on Brutal, not Impossible yet.

>>176277216
It's thermal smoke, to counter thermal vision and conceal heat signatures. Colored for convenience and to distinguish from regular smoke.

And later it becomes chemical infused.