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Kawakami is best girl edition.

Previous Thread: >>176018583

NEWS
>Hashino thanks western piggus: http://personacentral.com/message-director-katsura-hashino-celebrating-western-release-persona-5/
>New game domains registered: http://personacentral.com/potential-persona-5-spin-off-website-domains-registered-including-p5d-p5u/
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/


INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Haru is best girl!
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First for fuck you OP, claiming
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I want to marry Ann!
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>>176039476
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I can't wait for Persona 5 Goro of the Resurrection!
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>>176039476
Shit OP, worst girl
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>>176039476
I love Haru!
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>>176039646
So you can bully him some more? Good idea!
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Hand over the big bang burgers!
Kawakami come over, I need you clean my bottom!
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Why won't swift strikes carry over to some Persona when fusing? Doesn't even give the option.
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I want to have a questionable relationship with Morgana as FemJoker!
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>>176039582
>>176039592
Cucked by a Harufriend, truly life is suffering
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>>176039693
Yikes, that outfit.
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So how do you get the ultimate amor for the team? I've heard you gain it by washing dirty protective wear but does it need to be a specific one or they're all random? Should I keep the ones I've found in the first palaces?
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE SO MANY CONFIDANTS AT NIGHT
AND A LOT OF THEM TAKE MULTIPLE DAYS JUST TO UNLOCK
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO MAX THEM ALL OUT
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I love my Makoto
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I want to date Kawakami!
I want to put a ring on Kawakami!
I want to marry Kawakami!
I want to impregnate Kawakami and rub her swollen belly!
I want to rest my head on Kawakami's pregnant belly and feel the baby kicking!
I want to raise a family with Kawakami!
I want to tell Kawakami how much I love her!
I want to grow old with Kawakami!

>>176039592
OP here, it's fine. I was going to be a dick and claim her in the OP but decided against it.
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Why haven't you beaten Persona 5 five times like andrew goldfarb?
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I love Fuuka.
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So I'm assuming the first boss is going to be a fire user since I already have Ice/Wind/Electric.
I noticed that Slime has Red wall, so if I fuse that into a stronger persona and use that on Chie during the fight can I stonewall them or is there a hard punish waiting for my memer ass if I do that?
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Reminder that Fox is autistic!
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>>176039693
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best homo pairing!
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>"What do you think of these bad boys Ryuji?"
>"That wasn't meant for Group Chat! Don't look at it you guys!"
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>Hi sis, do you know what is wrong with me, because I feel funny and my stomach seems to be swollen
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>>176039748
P5 is ridiculously lenient man, even without Chihaya you can do a max s-link run in NG pretty easily

>>176039839
Cute
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>>176039748
dewa dewa
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>tfw too anxious about ruining my playthrough by bad time management
>end up reading a guide for each Persona game

I feel like a shitter, but otherwise I can't enjoy these games.
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>>176039714
Some personas don't inherit certain types of skills/spells. That depends on the persona itself

>>176039756
Good guy OP, makes bread and isn't a faggot about it
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>"Hey Ryuji did you get that invitation to our wedding yet?"
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>>176039731
Life is better with Haru and Kawikami around, friend
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>>176039826
Just do it and don't be a bitch.
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>>176039826
>So I'm assuming the first boss is going to be a fire user since I already have Ice/Wind/Electric.
you got it senpai
though I think it also might have Garu
>I noticed that Slime has Red wall, so if I fuse that into a stronger persona and use that on Chie during the fight can I stonewall them or is there a hard punish waiting for my memer ass if I do that?
don't bother with Chie, let her spend the fight on the floor. Get a Senri, she blocks fire.
good luck
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>>176039826
Persona 4 is baby mode, there is nothing hard in the way.
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>>176039968
>"Hey Joker did you get that invitation to our welding yet?"
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What are the ranks for Persona protagonists from best to worst?
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>>176039826
IIRC you can make Chie block when you think the boss will use a fire attack, and Chie won't get knocked down.
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>>176039826
Nope, that's actually the good plan.
Funny thing is, the boss does that exact thing to you with Ice Wall to prevent you from fucking it over too hard
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>>176039826
Train Slime until you get Fire Wall, fuse it with Orobas(?) to get Senri with Red Wall (Senri nulls Fire), but don't bother putting the wall up AS SOON as it drops, it's a waste of SP
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>>176037425
>forced to change their perspective.

Thinking about it now, taking a heart reminds me a lot of the Point of View gun from hitchhiker's guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxo3Jy3p8zo

Also
>"It won't work on me, I'm already a woman. Truer words never spoken."
>"Meh"
>Pic related
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>>176039968
When does Ryuji stop acting like an 8 year old who thinks that girls are all smelly and stupid?
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>>176039780
andrew who now? Sorry i couldn't even give a shit to know who he is
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>>176039904
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Prove me wrong.

Protip: Please don't bully

>>176039839
Not enough Tae art.
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Stop Mothman abuse
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>>176039839
Truly the best doc

>>176039969
I've nothing against Haru, anon, good choice
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>>176040149
>futaba best
>kawakami that high

You basically did the waifu equivalent of making a top 10 anime list then listing Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note, etc as the top
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>>176039968
Wouldn't Ryuji be Joker's best man?
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>>176040068
Pierced boy = Tatsuya = MC = Yu = Joker > Maya who should not be a protagonist dammit she should be a voiced party member
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>>176040149
You know the english teacher would probably be much more popular if she didnt have so much makeup on. She actually has curves.
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>>176040165
Wait...I never saw that I'm kinda sad now.
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Does Joker have a locker? I rubbed my face against all the walls but never found one.
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>>176040297
she looks like a tranny
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>>176040297
She's not actually that bad, but she gossips too much.

Maybe she should be knocked up a rank for HERRO EVRYUN
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>>176040149
>Futaba that high
She's I(mouto) tier

>Makoto in S
Yeah, nah

>rival model that low
Shit

Overall bad list, but not the worst
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onegaishimasu
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>>176040265
I mean if I'm playing the role of Joker he sure as shit isn't. It's gonna be my boy Yusuke.
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>>176040325
Never see it coming~
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Joker x Goro
Ryuji x Ann
Yusuke x Futaba
Makoto x Haru

this is the canon list
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If you put Usami lower than top 5 you're still a boy waiting to become a man.
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I have also made rankings. Nobody is S or S+ because nobody else even comes close to Ann.
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>>176040221
Well, those are the only four anime in existence, so I don't see the problem.

>>176040398
Not chuuni enough in this picture.
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>>176040393
Wow dude, you have a severe case of shit taste.
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>>176040149
I'm with ya for like half to two thirds of that I think
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die for her
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>>176040393
Rival model is just a bitch. Nothing attractive about that.
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>>176040342

No. Even if he did nobody would give him stuff because everyone other than the party and Mishima hate him.
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>>176040149
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I disagree with portions of the above rankings and would like to submit my own.
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>>176040576
I'd rather kiss_ her
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>>176040576
I'd rather die by mudoon. Cheaper SP and all that shit.
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>>176040636
I find your disagreement with me to be unconscionable. Please amend your list until it matches mine then re-submit it.

>>176040342
Do those schools do lockers like that? I thought they got a shoe locker and that was it.
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Damn, the lyrics of the battle theme are extremely evil for a song that cool. Are we sure the villain isn't singing it?
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Ok lads. Who is your persona waifu?
Titania a best.
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I love you my Trickster, you truly are the worlds finest man
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>>176040829
Fuuka is my persona Waifu
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>>176040831
Who the hell are you? Are you the Wardens' long-lost sister?
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>>176040149
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>>176040829
>Demon
Pixie or Lilim

>Human
Fuuka
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>>176040829
I've always loved Cybele
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>>176040931
more like long lost true identity
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Why the fuck do I love this Persona so much?
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>>176040829
Mara is the cutest
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Oh my god I forgot that the stupid pancakes scene is literally in the first interaction with Akechi

so basically that entire time Morgana knew he had been to the Metaverse

but if Akechi was in Madarame's Palace presumably to spy on the Phantom Thieves, he apparently got some shit intel by not really knowing how Morgana works.
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Quick NG+ question. Since the compendium carries over, does this mean enemy names are revealed from the start and you basically never need to negotiate?
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>>176041084
Because the doot is always there for you and he's cute.
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>>176041145
yes
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>>176040957
>more than one waifu
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>>176041145
Yes
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Teach me to summon a Persona, please.
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>>176041213
>implying anyone even takes waifuism seriously here.
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>>176041241
you need to pull that trigger
come on, do it
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>>176041213
>Not going for the harem route
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Does anyone have the image of an anon drawing PT Hifumi with the half-oni mask and the fate outfit ?
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>>176041241
You need a GEP gun.
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>>176041140
>but if Akechi was in Madarame's Palace presumably to spy on the Phantom Thieves

Nothing indicates this was the case. We know from Kaneshiro's Palace that Goro has been operating in various Palaces for a while now.
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>>176041307
I take it seriously.
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>>176041307
>Chihibro

He's the only one. God bless that faggot.
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>>176041360
Literally never ever, Hifumifag
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>>176041241
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>>176041402
Do you think the Shadow selves like to visit each others palaces and have tea parties
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>>176041442
>>176041307

I genuinely love Fuuka too!
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>>176041084

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8XfV8aPAyQ

One day I'll make a minmaxed team of Trumpeter, Matador and Mother Harlot and the four riders.

>>176041225
>>176041183

Shit. I just wish there was a way to have a fresh New Game with only your social stats maxed (and maybe confidant NG+ items), just to free up time. I don't want late game Personas or other conveniences.
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Why are all the ultimate weapons like 90% hit rate? Isn't that kind of low?
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>>176041402
The fact that Goro could hear morgana means he had to have heard him in the metaverse.

He was tailing them, which makes the screw up even more retarded. He knew about Morgana.
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>>176041307
Im going full autism with this dork, doe.
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>>176041402
Why would he be in Madarame's Palace, then?
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>>176041561
>Joker in a maid outfit.
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>>176041576
Whoever he was working for would be interested in exploiting Madarame for their own gain. His underworld art connections would be useful in secret fundraising or money laundering.
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>tfw love at first sight
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>>176041561
Because why the fuck would the hit rate be 89%? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>176041561
>ann's is outclassed by shop stufd
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Spicy Take Incoming:

Futaba's Palace was the only good one in the game

It was the worst art design but the best as far as level design and the awakening of Futaba went. Hearing the villains confessing was boring, hearing Futaba accepting herself was great
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>"I sometimes wish Santa Claus was real. Though if he were, I'd have to have him arrested" - High school self-described detective
>"The Phantom Thieves should be tried in a court of law for taking the law into their own hands." - the same guy, 5 sentences later.
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So, I'm about to fuse Lucifer...WHY THE FUCK DOES HE SUCK? He doesn't even have a single resist.
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>>176041561
What wrong with Ryuji there?
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Can someone explain something to me?
>Goro could hear the cat back at the tv station because hes been in the metaverse before.
>Sae had also been in the metaverse but cannot hear Morgana
>Futaba explains that once you hear Morgana speak in the metaverse, youll be able to hear him in reality. Sae hasnt heard Morgana in the metaverse, therefore she cant hear him in the real world.
B-but Goro hasnt heard Morgana in the metaverse before. What gives?
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>>176041523
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>>176041568
This doesn't really make sense, though. Madarame acts as if he saw Goro at a previous point in time. And they don't say that Goro heard Morgana, only that he'd been to the Metaverse before. Unless it was lost in translation? Seems like a pretty big detail to not mention.

I know Futaba says that you hear him speak in the Metaverse and can therefore hear him outside of the Metaverse as well but that's just her theory. Could be right, though.

I still would've liked to hear those exact words, leaving that up to an implication isn't very satisfying.
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Is Agneyastra better than Swift Strike? I'm thinking not. I don't know if anything is better than Swift Strike other than Yoshitsune's move.
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>>176041930
He doesn't want to wear the maid outift
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Why isn't direct command set as the default? Does anyone actually play with CPU party members?
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>>176041924
He has drain ice that you get to pass around don't complain
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>>176041801
It's ruined by generic boring nip YURUSENAI and repressed memories nonsense

Attention japs: repressed memories don't real
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>>176041962
Consider the following: maybe he was spying on you while you were in the metaverse.
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>>176041962
It's implied he was stalking them then, thus he had to have been the man in the black mask
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Let's say Atlus does a P4 remake using P5's gameplay as basis.

Which guns would the IT have?

Yu - Guns
Yusuke - Rifle
Chie - Dynamite
Yukiko - ???
Kanji - Shotguns
Teddie - ???
Naoto - Revolver
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>>176041962
>B-but Goro hasnt heard Morgana in the metaverse before. What gives?
Goro was stalking the thieves in the Metaverse.
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>>176041962
We're discussing that exact dilemma in this very thread.

Either Goro was trailing the Phantom Thieves in Madarame's Palace and this wasn't explicitly stated or Futaba is incorrect about what enables someone to be able to understand Morgana.
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>>176042002
Someone should do a merciless cpu control challenge run
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>>176042002
But it is default?
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>>176042010
That's Satan, I'm talking about Lucifer.
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Who is the worst character in the entire Persona franchise, and why is it Goro?
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>>176042092
throwing fans with the velocity of a real bullet
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>>176042092
Naoto already has a revolver, so her melee weapon should be a nightstick
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Why would anyone not romance futaba? She literally depends on you. That means you can cheat on her as much as you want, and even if she finds out you'll get away with a sorry. The worst she'd do is build a pillow fortress and barricade herself in there for a week which gives you even more time to fuck literally everyone else.
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>>176042204
Oh shit. I'm having all these christianity shit all mixed up

Well black viper mixed with almighty amp and almighty boost is pretty good
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going to start NG+ any name suggestions?
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>>176042119
Maybe you just have to be in there at the same time as Morgana
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>>176042092
Give Yukiko a sniper rifle and Teddie a Reagan.
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>>176042336
Joker Fuccboi
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>>176039709
I want to pat Goro on the head! But if bullying him makes you happy then I hope you can too.
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>>176042287
You're a terrible person and I hope your cock falls off.
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Go the bad ending kek.
Surprised Makoto wasn't the traitor after that scene with her sister.
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>>176042252
Just give me my damn riot gear Naoto already, Atlus.
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>>176042336
Yu Narukami
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>All of my friends wondering about Igor's VA and why it changed even in English
>tfw I have to withhold my knowledge
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>>176042336
Shujin Academy
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>>176042336
Gundam Tanaka
Onion Knight
Dagda Godslayer
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So after 100%ing P5s confidants
and having 100%ed P4G again just a month before

I think P5s confidants are for the most part really weak vs P4s

Like ridiculously so, the confidants in P5 are very one note. With some exceptions that might just be the best confidants in the franchise like Sun and Temperance. The rest are just so...lacking i guess? I don't really feel like i'm growing closer with anyone as much as in P4.
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>>176042336
Bobby Narukami
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>>176042336
Gorois Bestboy
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>>176042336
Akechi Goro
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>>176042101
>>176042065
>>176042063
But was he stalking them while Madarame was being targeted? He couldnt know who the phantom thieves were targeting until the calling card was sent, and by then the thieves were stealing the treasure immediately after.
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>>176042416
I assume you mean "pat" him on the head with a nightstick until his brains leak out his ears.

>>176042336
Prota Gonist
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>>176042479
At least you didn't spoil it on them like a colossal faggot.
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>>176042526
>Bobby

The LP I've lost... won't stop hurting.
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>>176042426
No more headpats with that attitude.
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>>176042363
Clarence Cruz
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>>176042209
>claim best boy is worst character
>post worst character as attached pic
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>>176042002
it is default in P5
> Does anyone actually play with CPU party members?
I did in P4, but with all the options P5 has it feels like a waste
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>>176042326
You're still confuising me. I want to fuse Lucifer as he's the ultimate Person in every game. But in this game he's weak to Bless and resist to fucking nothing.

How the fuck does he have no resist?
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Futaba's mom is beautiful
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>>176042479
You... can hold your knowledge without telling us, you know?
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>>176042513
>Dagda Godslayer
>Hey boyo, wanna help me punch God in the face?
>Sorry I prefer shooting them in the head.
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Do I need every Treasure Demon and DLC persona for the trophy?
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>>176042513
>tfw no hellhound earring
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>>176042463
just watch the Christmas ep of P4GA
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>>176042209
That's a weird way to spell Marie.
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>>176042542
>Game acknowledges that you are using The Diamonds as Ann suggested.
>Game doesn't acknowledges that you are Akechi Goro.
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>>176042336
>>176042584
Goddammit
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Has anyone seen a picture or video of a fully decorated attic? I keep seeing new shit pop up when looking at alternate romance routes.
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>>176042617
Luci will never become a 99 stat god like other personas but he's probably the easiest to make into an almighty murder machine.

He's still really strong for the effort required to get him that strong, the only other persona that can get that strong for that little effort is yoshitsune.
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>>176042563
>But was he stalking them while Madarame was being targeted?
Yes. He was on to them near the start. Plus, Madarame was receiving help from Shido. Remember, Shadow Madarame saw the man in the black mask.
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>>176042617
He just doesn't. If you want resistances go with invincible Yoshitsune.
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>Yusuke has unique dialog about every painting of madarame's pupils
Glad I went back
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>>176042578
eh?
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>>176042513
>>176042643
I just remembered that Dagda and Joker have the same English voice actor.
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>>176042514
I agree with you.

I think it's less that they're one-note in 5 though, and moreso that the deal with things generally less personal in nature, and more in line with the "shackled by society theme"

The very personal nature of 4's just appeals to me much more.
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>>176042721
It's not just that. If you never hang out with a slink (which is very possible) then you're missing out on a chance for decoration. Hifumi's Tower Lamp is the shit.
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>>176042785
I just went back to his painting.
I don't really see why he doesn't like it.
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>>176042820
Yeah I guess that's definitely it, it's probably why tora's and kawakami's confidants are the better ones because they're much more personal.
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Doujinfag here.

Just got word from my middleman in Japan, they got the goods and I'll probably be getting this in 3-4 weeks.

Aside from using these as reference materials for my own work, I'm going to get these translated. I'd rather not disseminate the RAWs, out of respect to the original artists.

So yeah, look forward to that in the coming months.
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>>176042683
I'm not watching that.
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>>176042209
t. attic trash
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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A reminder that shiho and ann might be more then friends
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>>176042951
delet this
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>>176042915
Tatsuya Suou is from Tokyo!
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>>176042807
Bit I hate Dagda...
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>>176042901
Sweet. Now I guess I have to stick around.

>>176042936
Are they cousins?
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>>176042971
No don't
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>>176042951
I'm telling on you
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>>176042514
>P5
>you both actively help each other out and grow closer more as a side effect of cooperating in a mutually beneficial relationship

>P4
>Hey protag come listen to me bitch about my daddy issues oh I feel so much better now RANK UP

I much prefer P5's.
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>>176042951
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>>176043006
You're supposed to hate him. He's the one that advocates the bad ending.
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>>176042794
They were going to smash the whole game with a video every single day. Then in the middle of recording they received the Atlus Terms of service...
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>>176042734
Yes but why can't he have any resist? Helel from P4 is fucking lightyears better and he's not the ultimate Persona.
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>>176042514
yeah, same
and texting doesn't feel as personal as evening conversations
and talking in safe rooms isn't as fun as dungeon dialogues
I don't know if it's just the people who played Japanese version set my expectations too high but I just feel an urge to skip most dialogues and messages, which was never the case in P4 or P3.
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>>176042820
>>176042514
I've heard people say that the party members from 5 are better written than 4's.
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>>176043059
Well P3 has better S.Links overall so who cares.
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>>176042951
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>>176042901

Why did you buy doujins obviously aimed at female readers self-inserting into Futaba
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>>176042951
>this is basically what canonically happened to Shiho

That's pretty fucked man.
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>>176042002
I think it is default for everyone except for one of the first party members. I know I had to set someone to direct command when I first got them but it was only that one.
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MUSIC/MOVIES/ETC THAT SHARE YOUR AESTHETICS
aka stuff to have playing in the background as you grind Mementos
contribute your own suggestions!

- Presto by Rush
- One Piece Film: Gold
- Ocean's 11
- The Italian Job
- Lupin the Third
- Reservoir Dogs
- Kind of Blue by Miles Davis
- Catch Me If You Can
- Swingin' On A Star by Frank Sinatra
- The Adventures of Robin Hood
- The Mark of Zorro
- Carmen
- Pirates of the Caribbean
- The Scarlet Pimpernel (musical)
- Arsène Lupin (2004 film)
- Inception
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>>176043137
There's people that have Joker as their husbando?
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>>176042820
I disagree
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>>176042783
>Yoshitsune
See
>>176043123
For the Ultimate Persona Lucifer fucking sucks dick; also as much as I love Yoshitsune he makes P5 fucking way too easy and I feel cheap using him.
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>>176043123
He's not the ultimate Persona, would you shut the fuck up about that like it's supposed to mean anything? He was the "ultimate" Persona in previous games, meaning he was the best one in those games, but that isn't the case this time. He's just a really good one. In terms of resistances Satanael is best unless you go through the motions to give Yoshitsune certain Drains and a Repel that makes him nigh invincible.
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>>176043131
It depends on if you're taking "everything" or story relevant moments.

If it's story relevant moments and "independence" I'd agree 5's are better written.

If you take social links and all the silly "events" 4's are vastly better written because of the sheer amount of interaction they have with each other.

4 has a lot of stuff sort of superfluous to the main plot though, but while a lot of people condemn it for that, I actually think it's one of its strengths because it heavily, HEAVILY fleshes out the characters. It's just a matter of whether sort of screwing up the plot pacing is worth it to you or not personally.
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>>176043137

Because I'm a colossal faggot (and the inside art's nice).

I also ordered this, if it's more to your liking, but it's not in the picture.
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>>176042901
>Futaba
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Best villain?
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Would it be in bad taste to use a modified Broly quote during the climax of the 12/24 boss fight?
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>>176042514
>The rest are just so...lacking i guess? I don't really feel like i'm growing closer with anyone as much as in P4.
People always say this but never presents any example. Which good SL had P4 even? Hanged man, Moon and nothing much else really
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>>176042782
Goro had been operating for years, doing mental shutdowns, and getting blackmail info (like the siu director). Madarame mentioing the black mask is not a sign that Goro was already on to the thieves.
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>when your sister beats you for wetting your pants in public and embarrassing her again
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>>176043406
English VA sucks balls
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>>176043249
He is the ultimate Persona in terms of fusion, he's the hardest to get and gets the top tier attacks. Satanael is NG+ and the canon ultimate so of course he's better. When talking about normal ultimates in Persona games it's always Lucifer.
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>>176043137
I'd self-insert into Futaba.

>>176043406
Okay, okay, the shrink the character's face joke has gone on long enough. Now let's see his real face.
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>>176043457
You can say the same for P5. Checkmate.
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>>176043406
give me your reasons?
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>>176043132
P3 links we're fucking shit only Tower, Hermit, Devil and Sun we're good
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>>176043237
Well, that's fine. I made very clear it was my opinion.
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>>176043059
Except you don't grow closer to half the confidants in P5 during the actual confidant.

Most of the main casts confidants experience little of actually getting closer together it's more "hey we're friends help me with this", most of the actual growing is done in the actual story.

Which is why P5 has the best story but the most "eh ok" confidants.
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>>176043517
His English VA is Krishna though, so you're objectively wrong.
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>>176043091
>Massacre
>Bad
Massacre was just edgy
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>>176043457
Doujima was great.
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>>176043509
>"Go get me a number 9 from Big Bang Burger"
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>>176043406
Best VA for villain.
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>>176043507
>Madarame mentioing the black mask is not a sign that Goro was already on to the thieves.
Considering that Goro heard Morgana after Kamoshida's dungeon but before the TV station, he must have. Plus, wasn't there dialogue about another intruder in the museum? It proves he was the other intruder and had to have known about them.
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Is it Makoto Time yet
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>>176043593
It's an obvious parallel to the White ending (aka the Super Bad ending) from vanilla SMTIV. How could it not be bad?
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>>176043457
>Which good SL had P4 even? Hanged man, Moon and nothing much else really
Besides those, Death was also good. I'd add party member links, but that would cause more in-fighting than necessary.
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>>176043636

Goro heard Morgana but he was off to the side not watching them. He heard Morgana from around the corner with no line of sight.
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What was the point of this? It felt so out of place and it's the only time it's actually used. Hell, even satanael in the end is more like a random battle.
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>>176043668
Because the other ending is Danu's.
Lesser of the two evils.
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>>176043059
>Literally both deal with somebody expositioning at you while you give a token response and then they feel better.
>Only difference is one involves going into Mementos to whisk away their problems with supernatural means.

I mean, you're spinning shit pretty hard to fit your narrative when it's basically the exact same "bitch to protagonist. Rank up!" in every single game.
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>>176043167
How was she exactly assaulted, i imaged
He forced her on a table and screw her from the back.
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State of P5 cast's parents :

Joker
>Father : Unknown, possibly alive
>Mother : Unknown. possibly alive

Ryuji
>Father : Gone away, leaving his wife and son. Abusive drunkard.
>Mother : Alive. Victim of domestic violence

Anne
>Father : Alive. Rarely at home
>Mother : Alive. Rarely at home

Yusuke
>Father : Dead, by an unknown cause before Yusuke was born.
>Mother : Dead, by fatal seizure

Makoto
>Father : Dead, by assassination
>Mother : Dead, by an unknown cause

Futaba :
>Father : Unknown
>Mother : Dead, by car accident and cognitive assassination

Haru :
>Father : Dead, by cognitive assassination
>Mother : Unknown

Goro
>Father : Alive. Behind the bars and in the state of regret
>Mother : Dead, possibly by suicide, sickness, or death by despair
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She's so low on the rankings.

Come on anons, don't you just wanna pull off her glasses, undo her hair, kiss those lips and lick her eyebrows
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>>176043392
wtf is wrong with her face
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P5 would have ended perfectly if Joker could have just lived happily with his harem of both men and women
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>>176043724
I think you may be taking the word watching too literally in this case. Though if he heard them, it is also likely he spied on them more directly afterwards. Which is likely how he also came across them in the real world.
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>>176043731
>Jacku potto...
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>>176043457
Good is subjective. I personally liked most of them, except for Chie, Daisuke, Yumi and obviously Marie, and two of those can be replaced by better S.Links.
But then you go to a Persona thread on either /a/ or /v/ or here and you find people saying everything was literal shit except for Kanji.
>>
Wait, so let me get this straight.

The reason Akechi Goro ruined or ended hundreds (maybe even thousands from collateral) of Japanese lives as an assassin and terrorist, was just so he could pull off an extremely convoluted and exotic form of revenge against politician Shido that would've also ended his own life?

Instead of all that horrific shit, why not just..kidnap and torture him?
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>>176043764
Never
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>>176043457
Yosuke's Kanji's was great
Nearly all the non party ones were pretty great like nanako's and dojimas. Hell adachi's was also pretty solid, especially as a plot set up. Sun, Moon and Tower were particularly memorable even if tower was cheesy as hell.

Hilariously I think the girls had the weakest ones, Rise's was pretty good though.
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>>176043731
Did you actually not do the tower confidant ?
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>>176043764
NTR is never okay.
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Do you get up to cloud district very often?

Oh what am I saying?
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>>176043873
>kidnap and torture goro
Sure, alright, sounds good.
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>>176043536
You can say the same for 3 too.

Very rarely do people give a valid reason for liking something, instead opting to give a vague generalization you can apply to every single game for why thing they don't like "objectively sucks" even though it's essentially the same.
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>>176043910
I did. Are you implying that having to manually kill a boss with a bullet is the same as spaming X at the beginning of a battle to reduce enemies health?
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>>176043789

I don't know what the hell it is with doujin artists and covers looking much worse than the actual inside art, but that's how it is.
>>
Jesus christ, that Power Intuition game makes me want to punch an infant in the face
I'M PRESSING THE RIGHT BUTTONS YOU PIECE OF SHIT GAME, WHY ISN'T IT WORKING
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>>176043763
Someone post the Shiho room
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>176043873
I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Goro may, in fact, have a screw loose or two and may not always act entirely rationally.
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>>176044013
well, that does look a lot better, although her eyes are still fucked.
>>
ALL YOU DO IS
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>>176044020
it's just a back half circle and forward for the last one, it should be easy enough, you can read the cheat book to give you like 12 seconds to do it.
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>>176043873
Exactly. He could have dragged Shido into the metaverse at any time and no one would have been the wiser. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Goro's motivations were stupid.
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>>176043953
>>176043878
How can someone hate it?
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>>176044090
RUNNING IN THE 90'S
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>>176043958
God damn it, is that why I recognised his voice?
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>>176043652
It's always Makoto time
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>>176044132
Because not everybody is a degenerate cuckold like you.
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>>176043985
And don't forget P2, which has objectively the best story because it's better than the other stories. No, I won't elaborate on what actually makes it good.
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>>176040829
>Persona waifu
Do you mean demons?
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>>176043958
Why did he turn into Roshi?
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>>176044046
she's not
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>>176043904
Yosuke's SL was godawful 9 fucking ranks about muh Saki and then out of nowhere Yosuke has a inferiority and is jealous of you because of reasons which is never foreshadowed
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>>176044020
Don't lift your finger for each button press, slide them.
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>>176044138
DEJA VU
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>>176043873
Because keikaku doori
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>>176044145
I'm not sure it was possible to pick a more contemptible voice. I tried to murder that fuck every single playthrough but there is a trigger on him that makes killing him silently completely impossible.
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>>176044145
Who is that guy, again?

Did he voice Char, like Ikeda did?
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>>176044132
Because it's disgusting filth.
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>>176044125
To be Honest,I feel like he may have have been changed fairly late in development.

It would explain the rushed resolution as well.
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>>176044194
That's not Roshi.

That's STANDING HERE
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>>176044213
She is as close to perfect as you can get.
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>>176044265
Roshi would kick Shido's ass

Roshi can blow up the moon
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>>176041523
You're Fuukafriend Prime, right? The one who's dedicated his entire life to being a good boyfriend for Fuuka and learned Japanese for her?
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>>176043840

Nah. I don't think Goro was ever tracking the PTs in the Metaverse until Okumura. And even then not until Okumura received the calling card and did something no other person who received had done: informed the police immediately. That let Goro know that the PTs were about to act. So he shadowed them that day.

He was in the other palaces, because he visits the palaces of all the people connected to Shido. But there's no reason to think he was following them the whole time. He's not the "ace detective" his reputation suggests. He did suspect Joker and friends, for the reasons he himself gives, but he had no real proof of it until he saw them disappear, which he himself witnesses and shows surprise to when it happens (and that surprise is not feigned, because no one is watching him at the time).

In all palaces before Okumura, Goro has no way of knowing who the PTs are targeting and when they will act. So he can't do any tracking. Besides, him spying on the PTs would put himself at risk if he were caught.
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>>176044216
>which is never foreshadowed
except like the 4 times it is during the main story
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>>176044326
DB a shit!
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>>176044246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lci43ewRSiw
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>>176044326
Kamoshida can cause a nuclear explosion with a volleyball.

Just imagine what Shido could do.
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>>176043873

ONCE I GET THIS ASSHOLE TO THE TOP I'LL TELL HIM I'M HIS SON AND THEN KILL HIM.

Yeah that will work on a guy who literally kills people he no longer has any use for.
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>>176044387
Roshi can blow up the moon. That's way more impressive than the nuke with a volleyball thing.
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>>176042807
Pretty sure Xander voices one of the Archangels as well. He's no Lelouch, but he's still fucking great at what he does.
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>>176044312
She's boring
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>>176043636
Youre assuming he heard him. Plus the fact that there was another intruder doesnt mean it happened recently. For all we know, Goro met shadow madarame months or years ago to get dirt so Shido could use him.
Goro stated that they had the siu director in shidos pocket because goro found dirt from the shadow version.
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>>176044370
>except like the 4 times it is during the main story
Oh please enlight me anon which scenes are those
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> that Futaba double high five during her rank 9 social link cutscene
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>>176044447
She's cute and interesting
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>>176042807
>I just remembered that Dagda and Joker have the same English voice actor

Wait, really?

That's pretty damn cool.
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Anyone have a Skill Card list?
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>>176044445
and Yukiko voices Ohya

Yukari apparently voices Kawakami but I can ignore that for some reason
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>>176044447
>thought Ann was the best waifu ever when it was just you, morgana, ryuji and ann
>as more characters got introduced, she got less and less interesting and more and more boring
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>>176044125
>>176044254
Goro didn't want to just kill Shido. He wanted to ruin Shido's ambitions. He wanted to give Shido everything he ever wanted and then immediately take it away.

I mean, you can say "That's stupid, just kill him," but some people want more than death for their enemies.

>>176044352
If Goro didn't stalk them a bit early on, he wouldn't understand Morgana. That's all there is to it.

No, I'm not saying every time you go into the Metaverse Goro is literally one screen behind you, watching closely. But he was keeping tabs on you and knew what was going on. It doesn't take an Ace Detective to do that. And he wouldn't need to wait for them to get to Okumura because the thieves targeting him was all part of their plot to begin with. They specifically altered events to make them target him.
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>>176044558
and Hifumi is Marie.
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>>176042820
I don't understand this argument honestly, not only are most confidants in P5 pretty personal in nature (personal growth, dealing with insecurities, dealing and accepting your past, being unsure of what your future holds, etc) on top of the scumbag aspect of them (Mementos), but Joker actively aids and participates with most of his confidants and helps them grow by being there and looking out for them.
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>>176044009
>spamming
You can just hold it.
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>>176044643
Not as personal as P4...
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>>176044448
>Youre assuming he heard him.
Goro can understand Morgana. That means he heard him. That's the only way to understand Morgana in the real world. And that's how he heard Morgana say "pancakes" at the TV station.
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>>176044552
You mean for what Personas turn into what skill cards?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2AQXcNtzuhdVlx77Y0V6O41uJyrNW2wpKPYlY-TFr8/htmlview?sle=true
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BOY I SURE DO LIKE BEING A PART OF THE
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>>176044549
>SHOW ME YOUR TRUE FORM
>He was actually talking about how observation turned them Dagda and co into Gods and his will to break free
P O T T E R Y
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>>176044586
It's probably because she fucking disappears towards the end of the game.
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Futaba's English VA performed as if Futaba had autism
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>>176044436
Maloti can take 17 years worth of bullying
Can Roshi do that
She can probably also blow up two moons any day of the week
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I SEE IT


I FEEL IT
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Hypothetically, could Joker hang out in the Mementos lobby and fuck his Personas?
What would the Twins do?
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>>176044758
Futaba does have autism
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>>176044125
That assumes Goro could beat shadow Shido. I doubt hed even get passed the first form.
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>>176044729
>Goro can understand Morgana. That means he heard him.

Not necessarily.

>That's the only way to understand Morgana in the real world.

This is just Futaba's theory on the subject.
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>>176044727
But Joker is more involved with them than Yu is in P4, for the most part.
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>>176044735

what's with these guys' boners for killing characters only to revive them minutes later?
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>>176044594
But it is stupid. And it didn't accomplish anything, making it even more stupid. If he had just dragged Shido into the metaverse he could have gotten his revenge. Instead, he's dead.
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>>176044549
He's also the Smash Announcer.
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>>176044727
Argument something that is not ''muh feelings'' or fuck off...
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>>176044735
DUDE

PHANTOM THIEVES

LMAO
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Why is Makoto so angry and brutal when she's a phantom thief?
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>>176044875
It's a sound theory though considering what happened with Sae
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>>176044643
I'm not saying it's not there, just that a lot of the more "personal stuff" is sidelined in order for the "shackled things."

Like Ryujis focuses on him fairly early, but shifts to the track team at about the middle portion and stays there.

Ann is dyslexic about her personal modeling stuff and Shiho.

Makoto mentions her "clulessness" to societal norms, but focuses primarily on her friend being used.

Etc. So yeah, saying it doesn't deal with personal issues isn't correct, but virtually every single one in 4 dealt with a personal issue from beginning to end, so I don't think it's unfair to say that it is more personal in nature.

That isn't to say that makes 5's not quality, I just prefer all 4 does it myself.
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>>176044875
False. Sae enters the Metaverse and never understands Mona because she never heard him.
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>>176044869
Kill the human, there's no need to fight the shadow. Humans are weak, especially when facing something like a persona.
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Goro really did nothing wrong. He was just cleaning up the trash.
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>>176044940
Catharsis.
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>>176044940
Because she's a Kamen Rider.
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>>176044881
No he isn't.
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who should i waifu on NG++ i already did sensei and makoto
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>>176044875
The game's explanation is that when you hear Morgana speak in the Metaverse, it changes your cognition in the real world so you can understand him. This is why the thieves can understand him, and why Sae cannot.

You can say "but none of the characters can know that for sure." Yeah, but that also literally goes for every damn rule in this series. You might as well make a theory that pixies in the Metaverse crap magical dust that makes people able to understand cats and there were no pixies in Sae's Palace because they were on vacation. But I'll stick to the only theory the game provides, which also adds up.
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>>176044190
I want to do lewd things with Leanan Sidhe.
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Lovers is canon
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>>176045108
If you like em mature and well behaved why not Tae.
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>>176045040
>Goro was a mistake. I knew I should have made that cunt have an abortion.
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>>176044730
Thanks a lot man.
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>>176044890
He wanted more revenge than just Shido being dead. He took the chance on that and got fucked.

You're allowed to call that stupid.
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>>176044890

Killing Shido would do nothing. Shido was perfectly willing to die rather than lose his status given how quickly he chugs the death medicine when he knows the thieves beat him.

That's why ruining him was the best form of revenge. It was a solid idea.

Goro's only problem was he was too wrathful about it. He should have exposed him well before hand and ruined him then, but he wanted Shido to win and just begin the savor the taste of everything he ever wanted before taking it away.

This wouldn't have allowed Shido to corrupt him so badly either.
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>Goro shot a man in front of me
>I feel like our bond deepened
>by the way that wasn't even me since I was in another reality where I couldn't see jack shit
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12908309
http://www.strawpoll.me/12908309

Who was the best P5 villain?
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>>176045183
That Yukari looks so much better than her in game artwork does. Rise and Ann on the other hand are kinda meh.
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>>176044986
You're only talking about the party members though, which you're right about because most of their development is in the main story.

But you can't tell me with a straight face that Tae's Confidant isn't personal, or Tora's, or Kawakami's, or anyone else

I'd imagine the reason the party members links turned out as they did was to try and avoid the issue 4 has with the bulk of the main casts personal development being confined to their social link.
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>>176044594

It's only a guess that the criteria for understanding Morgana is to hear him in the Metaverse. No one really knows the mechanism. Goro has been to the Metaverse, has the app on his phone, and even has a Persona. It is quite possible he could understand Morgana from the get go.

It's silly to think he was keep tabs on the PTs in the Metaverse. The Metaverse is too big for them to randomly bump into each other and Goro, again, has no way to know who is being targeted until Okumura. And even then he didn't know when the PTs would act until Okumura got the calling card and informed the police, which no one had ever done before. Prior to that, I am sure he had never seen them in the Metaverse.
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Will drive by Kamoshida grace us with his presence today?
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>>176045329
Fuck off Harufag
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>>176044216
>9 fucking ranks about muh Saki
people keep saying this but I'm rewatching his S.Link right now, I'm on rank 5 and he has yet to mention anything about Saki. He does bring up the case but in passing and doesn't mention Saki herself.
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>Shido rips off Sandshrew training
He has gone too far
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>>176045329
>Kamoshida already well in the lead

I'm glad this is agreed upon then.

All hail to the king, baby.
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>>176045317
The way the story prioritizes watching cognitive Joker over real joker does have some pretty serious ludo-narrative dissonance. They lampshade the rank up in absentia later but it still feels a bit off.
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>>176043873
Kinda funny when you think that both Phantom Thieves and the Conspiracy are the indirect result of this complicated revenge.
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>>176045331
Such is the power of the "canon" sluts...
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>>176044729
Or theres an actual plot hole, or Futaba's explanation is wrong. Goro clearly did not expect the PT to deal with medjed (as explained by the IT director), therefore he wasnt aware of the PTs actions.
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>>176045329
>Akechi
>villain
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This better happen in the new P5 version.
>>176045317
Goro's link is pretty fucking bad.
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>>176045329

Definitely Kamoshida.

You got a taste of the shit that he did and saw the effects.
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ZORRO, SHOW YOUR MIGHT
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>>176045492
fuck off groo stop lying
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You now remember the part of the game where Yusuke left the school dorms, intending to go live with Ann and just assuming she'd be okay with it
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>>176045518
YARUJANEIKA
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Could I get some info possibly without spoilers?

I just beat Shido. Is there more game left or am I just waiting til Feb to go home?
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>>176044857
He would become mentally exhausted by keeping his Persona out and pass out before he cums with his dick out.
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>>176045317
Sauce for gif?
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>>176045329
Kamoshida is the only one I really gave a shit about taking out.
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>>176045518
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>>176045376

Futaba says it's a conigtion thing but she also says that's only a guess, and despite everyone in the area hearing Morgana talk during the finale only the Persona users can understand him again afterwards.

It could be a Persona thing, and it probably will be so other Persona users that haven't been to the Metaverse can still understand Morgana in the inevitable spinoffs.
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>>176045492
>groo making excuses for himself
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>>176045495
I can't tell where Jared Leto ends and Goro begins.
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>>176045514
his entire character is awful. the game would have been better without him
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>>176045575
Igor is the killer.
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>>176045575
You've got about 2 days of free time and 2 one-day dungeons left until complete hands off.
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Is Uriel the coolest looking Angel?
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>>176045575
There's another dungeon.

Get the fuck outta here nigga.
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Is this the zenith of Arsene?
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>>176045317
>Goro shot a man in front of me
>I feel like our bond deepened
You can probably bond through hate for the person. Just because it's a bond doesn't mean you mean each other well
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>>176045343
>But you can't tell me with a straight face that Tae's Confidant isn't personal, or Tora's, or Kawakami's

Again, I never said they weren't personal. In fact, those 3 are probably the most personal.

But even those have a large part to do with outside factors. Tora is trying to wash away his checkered past and become a man of the people, but the rank takes a huge shift to whee he's torn between 2 political sides.

Kawakami's is personal, but it's personal again, from being shackled by her guilt over the student, and blackmailed by the guardians.

Tae is largely about the little girl, and the other doctor lying and basically attempting to force her to resign.

So yeah, it's personal, but not exactly the same.

Almost every one in 4 is solely a personal affair. 5 has a lot of focus on other people causing the problems.
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>>176045492
No one is saying Goro literally tailed the team every step of the way. He crossed paths with them in Madarame's Palace, and kept tabs on them (mostly in the real world) from that point on. I mean, there was no need to even monitor everything. They didn't care if Medjed was taken down, since they were going to take a fall regardless, and Futaba wasn't a person of interest. The SIU just wanted to use them as a tool, to grow in popularity and then take the blame for the SIU/Shido's actions.
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>>176045596
For real. Probably some of the best build-up to the first boss in any game ever. They really drove the point home of what an absolute piece of shit he was that made you really want to take him out.

The others were just like "yeah lets take these people out because we like helping people now woohoo" and there's nothing wrong with that but it doesn't compare to all the shit they put in with Kamoshida.
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Kaneshiro sucked. He hardly seemed like a guy in charge of a mafia.
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>>176045575
Adachi is the killer.
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>>176045720
I am 200% triggered right now.
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>>176045736

Rank ups work even if you're learning something terrible about the other Persona, hence why you get a rank up when Adachi reveals he's evil and shoots at Yu.

The main problem is that's Cognitive Joker and not the real one, yet the game acts like it is the real one complete with the usual Joker inner monologue.
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>>176045775
Agreed.

He seemed like just some random tryhard thug, and IMHO, his arc was entirely pointless filler.
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Post em
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>>176044986
What are you on? Ryuji's focus on the track team was very personal to him. It not only allowed him to move on from the past but to recognize who he is right now and where he belongs.

Ann's came to terms with the fact that she herself was pathetic to someone who actually gave a damn. She has to accept that in order to show Shiho that things can become better.

Not even going to bother with other slinks. You're putting P4 guys on a high note for some weird reason when they're both good to me
Stop it with your blatant hate when you can't even recognize the ins and outs of the P5 slinks.
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>>176045603

Yeah I was going to say the same thing: the spinoffs will answer the question finally about how people understand Morgana. I am guessing anyone with a persona can understand him.
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>>176045719

is the twins fight optional or what

how different is the regular ending from the true ending?
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>>176045329
>kamoshida
literally you everyday underappreciated old-man whose about past his prime
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>>176045762
>>176045596
Seriously this.
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>>176045775
Yeah, I agree.

While he was a terrible villain that didn't feel like he made much of an impact story-wise, his dungeon was fun, his dungeon music was godlike, and Makoto had some cool scenes.
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>>176045775
>>176045882
He was just a patsy to raise funding for Shido, if he had real ambitions he wouldn't have been under someone else's thumb.
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>>176045875
Yeah that's a problem but I was referring to how people seem to be having a problem with how you rank up from seeing Akechi kill a guy
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>>176045890
You did it already, my fellow Makotobro.
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>>176045317
It's like the P5 social links are based around the reverse of their arcana or something.
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>>176045720
>5 endurance

Imagine getting hit by the twins with that stat
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>>176045331
too bad good artwork can't fix her shit character
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>>176039476
How would you rank the protagonists?
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>>176045979
Twins fight is NG+ only.

There are 2 bad endings and a "true" ending ie, the real one, you'd have to be literally retarded to not get the true ending though.
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>>176045098
>>176044986
Most of P4s SLinks are just the links talking to Yu about their inner demons but if you prefer that, that's fine. Joker is actively present in supporting and aiding his confidants.

Goes support Ann with her modeling, goes work out with her, goes support Ann when she's with Shiho.
Joker goes to run with Ryuji, supports Ryuji and backs him up when he's dealing with his track fellows.
Takes Yusuke out to expand his horizons and teaches him about the different aspects of human nature.
Takes Futaba to different places and chaperones her, while being there as emotional support as her key item which is incredibly important to anyone with any sort of trauma that is recovering.

This applies to a lot of side links too. It honestly doesn't get any more personal than that. You are bonding and strengthening your friendship, helping them grow and helping them find their footing in the world by actively participating in the daily aspects of their life they deem important.
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>>176045775
he wasn't in charge of the mafia, he was just some sub boss.

I liked his voice and I liked that one scene after he loses where he's just slumping down on his pile of gold talking to the PTs like he just doesn't give a fuck anymore
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>>176045762
>>176045596

maybe because they made it pretty clear what a cunt he has

they didn't give that much exposition to the rest of the villains, but I'm sure if they have explained in a greater and more personal detail what kaneshiro did to his victims you would have cared more
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>>176045492
>>176045748

I wonder how that would have worked. If Shido's plan was for Medjed to just go dark and claim the thieves defeated them regardless, the thieves would definitely have known something was up when they hadn't actually done anything.

They might not have taken the bait for Okamura then.
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>>176045714
Throne is better.
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>>176039704
Me too.
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>>176045624
>>176045550
>Cant handle evidence contradicting his theory
Ill leave you to your safe space.
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>>176045846
Because you couldn't make it?

don't worry neither can I
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>>176046059
Thanks for the rare Makoto
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>>176046180
Hard to say. They may have just thought Medjed got scared or was just some asshole trying to grab attention.
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>>176046115

should I bother being literally retarded to get the other bad ending or is it going to be like where goro shoots you and the story is simply cut short?
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>>176046179
Definitely. Which is why it sucks that they didn't.
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>>176045936
>Stop it with your blatant hate when you can't even recognize the ins and outs of the P5 slinks.

I'm not even hating on it, or putting anything on a high note. I'm explaining WHY I prefer 4's. You're twisting my words for some reason.

I DO understand the ins and outs of the P5 links, but I'm not wrong when pointing out that 4's are almost exclusively personal while 5s deal with heavily with outside factors. I never said that there wasn't personal problems there.

But I guess reasonable responses that aren't even hating on a game are "hate" now.
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>>176046113
>godly
p5
>nobody fucking cares anymore
everyone else
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>>176045714
here's what REAL angels looks like
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>>176046179

They had to make Kamoshida as evil as possible because the thieves go in knowing they might kill him if they screw up.

There's no need for that with anyone else because they already know the change of heart will work.
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>>176045596
>Shido, the big bad villain who was basically hyped up the entire game as the "final boss" (not counting ass pull yaldy at the last second) only has 3 votes

What went wrong? I didn't feel like he was that great of a villain either, despite him being built up as the final boss. Not to say that his fight and RIVERS IN THE DESERT weren't awesome, but from a story perspective he seemed...lacking.

Is it because we didn't know much about him aside from "evil politician who hires assassins to kill people"?

I mean Akechi was clearly the better villain, despite what you might think about him, simply because we got to know more about him.
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>>176043904
Tower is literally the go-to example on how not to structure a Social Link. You do NOTHING for 8 ranks except hear some kid periodically whine in third person, then suddenly you're inviting the whole fucking IT over to celebrate his birthday awkwardly with a bunch of older fucks he doesn't know.

Shinya is a straight upgrade to P4's Tower. They even do basically the same plot, just with a helicopter mom added.
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>>176046113
God
Joker

Meh
Everyone else

Shit
Yu
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>>176046263
>evidence
Which evidence was that that showed Goro couldn't have come across the PT in the museum?
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>>176046284
Nah just watch it on Youtube, it's like 2 minutes of cutscene stuff then ending, and there's no save before it so you have to replay a boss fight and a bunch of cutscenes to get back to where you were.
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>>176046113
>We will never have a spin-off where the protagonists from all 6 games meet each other
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>>176046325
Because he isn't built up that much. You see him once at the beginning, once after the buffet scene, and then never again until the end where they do some big exposition dump about all the bad shit he's done.
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>>176045714
Helel best angel
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>>176046140
Dude, that's literally the exact same.
>Supports Kanji when his mom is in the hospital
>Helps rise get her manager off her tail
>Helps saki's brother shrug off the others
>Helps Naoto with her bullshit scavenger hunt
>gets directly involved between Nanako and Dojima.

etc.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12897360/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12897360/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12897360/

Vote if you haven't yet. Choose the ones that stood out to you the most!

Rankings so far at 529 votes:

1.Joker - 99 votes
2.Makoto - 86 votes
3.Yusuke - 79 votes
4.Ryuji - 63 votes
5.Futaba - 62 votes
6.Haru - 55 votes
7.Ann - 53 votes
8.Morgana - 32 votes

>Ann in 7th place, even behind Haru
>The sad, desolate state that is still Morgana
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>>176046287
It wouldn't have made sense from a narrative perspective if all the villains were like Kamoshida. He was the only one he wronged the heroes and with they had a real personal grudge against. He had the best build up but the PT didn't have any real enemies besides him so of course the rest of the bosses would be corny.

Shido was a close second but it's clear that all the beef with him due to the coincidences that let's stories like these continue on
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>making my romanced Sadayo make me coffee while I bring Tae to my room
This...this is power. Why didn't I harem the first playthrough?
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>>176046775
if you get her to make tools she'll be sitting five feet away.
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>>176046732
>The sad, desolate state that is still Morgana
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>>176046313
God Doi's designs bug me so damn much

Like i by no means think Kaneko is infallible and Koi certainly has some shinning designs but jesus the archangels designs look so boring in SMT IV
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>get to the part where Haru is introduced on my second playthrough
>her fiancé shows up
Now I'm angry. How could anyone treat this sweet angel like that?
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>>176044336
That's a weird name

But yeah, I am learning Japanese for Fuuka.
Can I help you?
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>>176046775
You scumbag.
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Jesus christ, some of these P2 fusion spells are so broken

>zanma (which fucking every purseowner has by mid game) + literally any light spell = instant death for lowest level enemy in the battle
>zero chance of failure, just guaranteed death
>even works when there's only one enemy
>achievable using only two characters and moves that fucking everything has
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>>176046732
Fuck off with the Strawpolls jesus christ
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Post your dpujin ideas
Ideas involving Personas/Demons are encouraged
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>>176046869
My bad didn't realize I had a gun pointed at your head and was forcing you to answer them or even look at them.
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has there been any explanation to why everyone becomes so agile in the metaverse and become able to do those crazy jumps and spins
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>>176046732
>that image
Why is Joker so cute?
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>>176046919
Heat riser as a sexual stimulant
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>>176046935
persona power
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>>176045570
Ann is probably rich as fuck (not as mega rich as Haru though) and he wanted to leech from her
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>>176046832
Doi didn't design the Archangels. Guest artists did.
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>>176046859
I was just curious.
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>>176046926
Have you considered that as an option? May yield more accurate results.
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>>176045936
Not him but the links that don't focus on your relationship with the character in question are all decidedly worse than the ones that do. Basically every link involves a third party but some put that third party in a different role than others. Ryuji and Ann's are sub-par because you're a third wheel, whereas in others like No-Good Tora's it's more about you and him learning from each other and coming to an understanding. There's a third party in the form of the politician's grandson but it's not about him. Same goes for Kawakami, the Takases are prominent but it's not about them, it's about you helping Kawakami and vice-versa.

Ryuji's link is largely about the track team. Which is fine because they're important to him, the problem is that it ends up focusing largely on a bunch of random characters you know nothing about and don't really care about either. You only care because Ryuji cares. Same goes for Ann, it's more about what Shiho and Mika inspire her to do for herself, you're just there to help her along. It's not about you and her.

Which again, is fine. It's just that it doesn't feel as personal as some of the others. I will always like the more personal ones because they feel more validating.
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>>176046935
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>>176046832
How are differently colored muscle-men with shitty 80's hair better?

The IV archangels are one of the few redesigns that are miles above the original.
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>>176047136
what did he mean by this?
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>>176046532
I think where a lot of people are mucking up in the P4/P5 comparisons is the nature of the MC's main role.

Yu is a catalyst. He incites change and awareness with presence and periodic one-liners. People in 4's SLs solve their own problems for the most part, he just nudges them.
Joker is a meddler. He can't turn away from injustice that's right in front of him, and the nature of the Confidants mean that he's constantly a proactive force in their situation improving, even if it means using his powers to cheat the game back in their favor.

There's nothing wrong with either of these approaches; they're tailored to the themes of their respective games.
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>>176047034
I bet she's a huge daddy's girl whenever he's actually around, thinking about it.
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>>176046919
"Post your doujin ideas" anon gets pulled into the doujins she asked others to design. Hilarity ensues.
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>>176047043
Keita Amemiya a best, though those archangel designs aren't so good.
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What happened to Shido-san?
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>>176047178
Best description I've seen of the games I've seen.
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>>176047170
Looking at the world differently, in a more beautiful way.
Also looking at yourself differently, in a more beautiful way.

Changing the world by looking at it like it can be changed into something beautiful.

But really most people see aesthetics as style.
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>>176047098
You spend the entire game learning about Ann and Ryuji. The game starts with Joker practically saving from eventually sexual abuse from a teacher. It makes perfect sense that their S.Links would be about something important to their personal lives instead of just ironing out their relationship to Joker.
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So what was the "real" version of the villains after their changes of heart? Their versions outside of the Metaverse or their versions in Mementos?
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>>176047197
Too bad we never really meet any of their parents except for Futaba and Haru's shitty father
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>>176047178
With that logic, what is the P3 protagonist's role in his/her social links?

More importantly, how can the social links be designed so the the protagonist is not a Gary Stu?
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>>176046284

It's honestly kind of epic in a dark way, but probably not worth having to replay the scenes before hand.
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>>176047378
>in the end we really were the world ends with you
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>>176047426
His role is to get everyone to like him then make them all suffer as payback because they're awful people!
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>>176047402
After their changes of heart, their Shadow just moves to Mementos because they fall into despair. The real versions were always in the real world.
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>>176047178
I agree with this. I just think the constant meme that Yu is a wall that does nothing is a huge misinterpretation. Because he does get directly involved several times, just not as proactively as joker because in 4 it's personal demons vs 5's "outside factors" where Joker has to be more proactive.

>There's nothing wrong with either of these approaches; they're tailored to the themes of their respective games.

This I especially agree with. But for some reason people are jumping on me for "hating on" persona 5 when virtually every response I haven't actually said anything in a negative light about 5 and I've pretty much put "in my opinion" at the end.
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>>176047426
Makoto is a blank slate that tells people what they want to hear, and makes them hurtle into making a mistake so that they hopefully maybe learn from it and because it's pretty funny. Unless it's a cute waifu, then he's sweet.
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>>176047558
Wait. He's Japanese Elliot Rodgers?
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>>176047426
Not him, but P3MC seemed more like a casual observer who sat back and watched the people in question stumble into their own problems.

But with these being video games starring silent protagonists, I don't think there's a perfect way to design them. It either comes off as not genuine, or the main character is god's gift to man. Or you make the people in question unlikable assholes.
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>>176047178
>he just nudges them.
there are still plenty of scenes where he flips and starts meddling himself (bullies in Chie's S.Link, police officer in Kanji's, the band in Ayane's, the two high school girls in Yosuke's). I wouldn't say it's nudging as much as leading them in the right direction/showing what they're supposed to do and expecting them to learn.
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>>176047159
>The IV archangels are one of the few redesigns that are miles above the original.

I disagree, I'm not going to argue the ones we have for Persona are god tier but these are just spiky dudes with faces placed somewhere unnatural

You could tell me they where any demon from a generic mob to YHVH personal ass servant and i wouldn't be able to tell
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>>176047606
>Makoto is a blank slate that tells people what they want to hear, and makes them hurtle into making a mistake so that they hopefully maybe learn from it and because it's pretty funny.
literally what? Fucking ESL faggots
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>>176047495
>Game's finale takes place in Shibuya against a powerful god who staged a game against you
>Said god wants to destroy humanity due to society's flaws
>Throughout the entire game you go around helping people with their problems with that help of a blonde kid who thinks he's black
Quick which game am I describing

not saying it's a rip off just pointing out the similarities
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>>176047667
>You could tell me they where any demon from a generic mob to YHVH personal ass servant and i wouldn't be able to tell

That's more a problem with the Persona "generic angel number 37" designs though. At least the IV archangels have a unique look about them and something to stand out from the typical powers and archangels and shit.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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>>176047385
I guess? When I think of the term "social link" I envision the "link" part being the link between me and them. So when it focuses on a relationship other than that it just seems silly. Half of what happens in Ann or Ryuji's links could be done without Joker's presence, they just need you there to be their coach/voice of reason. Ultimately the same results could be achieved from a self-help book.

NONE of what happens in Kawakami's link could happen without Joker.

This is also what makes some of the romances feel so clunky, the non-personal ones barely focused on my relationship with the character so having it end with romance just feels odd. Ann's is like this and Makoto's would be too if it didn't cheat with the whole "pretend to be my boyfriend" thing. Haru's link and subsequent romance feel a lot more natural and genuine because her entire link is spent on you talking and getting to know each other better.
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>>176047606
>Makoto is a blank slate that tells people what they want to hear, and makes them hurtle into making a mistake so that they hopefully maybe learn from it and because it's pretty funny
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>>176047645
He was dead on the inside in the most literal nonliteral way possible, and I think it was a rare instance of a cipher protagonist in a video game being 100% appropriate

Also unlike his successors, he didn't decorate his room with anything. It was like a sterile hospital room the whole way through.
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Hey /pg/ lets get musical.
Post a song that fits and reminds you of someone from P5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXKGS6LeuY
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>>176047649
And there are scenes where Joker just lets people sort their own shit out, like basically all of Mishima's Confidant, and a few sections of Yusuke's.

The point is that the main role of the MC is reflective of the general themes of the game they belong to.
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>>176045748
>He crossed paths with them
And me and the other guy are saying thats unlikely since the metaverse is large with multiple palaces and he had no way of deducing their location.
And before you say "man in the black mask", there are at least two other shadows, Kaneshiro and the siu director, who have also met goro. At least two.
This argument is going nowhere. You wont budge from believing "he understands morgana, therefore he mustve heard him" and i wont budge from believing "there's probably a different explantion since its really unlikely he found them right away". Lets stop here.
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Today I'll tell /pg/.
Today I'll tell /pg/ that P4 sucks.
I'll destroy them. They will learn not to praise weabo garbage.
It's just another battle. Little by little, I will win this war.
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>>176047849
>When I think of the term "social link" I envision the "link" part being the link between me and them. So when it focuses on a relationship other than that it just seems silly

It's a good thing they're not called Social Links in P5 then.
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>>176047730
Yeah I'm sorry you're too stupid to parse someone on the internet not englishing too goodly
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Doesn't it feel kind of wrong using the DLC Personas? You're using Personas that don't belong to you.
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>>176047178
I will always prefer P5 social links because imo Joker actually looks like his forming a bond. Again this is my opinion.
I will say it's pretty interesting seeing you guys kill each other over this. No doubt you guys love both so its funny.
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>>176047987
It's not my job to translate retard-speak. Go learn how to write first and then come back to /pg/.
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>>176047896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pjo728fHuo
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>>176048000
Agreed, don't buy them.
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>>176047896
Would this song have made big bang burger base several times more bearable? The answer is yes. Very yes.
https://youtu.be/GDpmVUEjagg
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>>176046919
Arsene fucks (you) in the ass
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>>176048000
Then use Arsene and nobody else with your Joker, faggot!
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>>176048000
>buying dlc
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Who is the best non dlc almighty persona?
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>>176046919
you should not have revealed that you are a girl
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>>176048000
But I bought them they belong to me now
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>Morgana: Don't be afraid to swap out party members in this battle if we're having trouble
>*haven't started Hifume yet*
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OH GOD THE PRESSURE
WHICH ONE?
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>>176048000
they're so pretty though

To be honest, I haven't used them much despite the fact that I keep them on me all the time. Kaguya, Tsukiyomi and Izanagi are especially uselesss since Moon and Fool don't even need matching personas.
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>>176047803
Eh fair enough different strokes
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>>176048086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8cAv_gl6dk
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>>176047951
>Being this offended by other people opinions
bohoo
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>>176046919
Post pastebin

>>176048140
Nani?
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>>176048170
Middle, because it's a backhanded compliment.
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>>176048170
coulda sworn you could compliment Nanako instead.
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>>176047971
They're functionally the same thing, and that's only the English name for them anyway. The name has little to do with it, the fact of the matter is that all of them have to do with you interacting with them and some are more personal than others.
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>>176048170
make chie know she's sexually desirable

the other two hear it all the time
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>>176046919
The only thing I can think of involves making Joker lewd.
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>>176046732
It doesn't matter how many polls you fucking make, Makoto will still be best girl it's just no contest
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>>176048170
the one you need points to rank up with

Rise, because that's the only one that is actually a compliment.
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>>176048170
>No option to tell Nanako that she's the most beautiful.
Yu sucks at sidestepping landmines.
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>>176047849
Right, because the MC in P5 is Co-operating with them and acting as their Confidant.
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>>176048170
>No "Not really" 4th option
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>>176048086
Lovely anon, why didn't I think of this.
>>176048091
I agree the palace music in that palace needed something better then what it got. Since the last one was so good (Fuutaba's)
>>176047896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_fpg8Lm2js
La Métamorphose de Mister Chat
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>>176048306
anon, that comment is implying you are surprised she can look sexy. It's more insulting than anything.
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>>176042807
Also Dagda and Shido both are voiced by Char Aznable in the japanese version.
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>>176048446
not the way i'm projecting on it, with my two and a half inch boner and slackjawed drooling mouth chie would know for sure that i am being genuine
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>>176048306
Rise especially fishes for it.
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>>176046431
How about the siu director constantly giving pressure to the principal to find out who the PT are? Why bother if Goro already knows?
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>>176048349
Nanako being beautiful is a given
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>>176048318
Was that ever even in question?

I mean, I don't know about "best girl", but "most popular girl", yes, everyone knows that.
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>>176048393
see
>>176048304

The name is of little consequence, some are just fundamentally different than others.
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This is a recovering NEET.
Please feel free to leave your phone near here, especially if you're a detective.

>>176048312
I don't see the problem.
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>>176048170
>>176048534
>tfw rise is so fucking confidant he'll pick that she actually asked this infront of the other two

What a bitch.
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I'LL USE MY SADAYO
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>>176048565
That's why you say it, you state the obvious and don't fall for the trap.
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>>176048523
doesn't change the fact that that "actually" makes it sound like you usually find her repulsive
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>>176048639
did someone squish her eyes into slants
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>>176048424
>It’s hard to be a cat in this fucking town !
kek
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>Makoto follows you around school
>literally running after you with the book
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>>176048719
She heard it drives the guys wild.
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>>176043509
Joker Makoto peed herself again
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>>176048680
...to make me things for free
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>>176048680
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>>176048640
Well it's true.
>>176048754
She's a cute dork.
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>>176048719
anon she's asian
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>>176048640
I think that's the charm of her personally.

But yeah, that and the crocodile tears.
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>>176041801
There wasn't a palace that I disliked, but the metaphors were a little on the nose, especially with the party members pointing them out every time.
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>>176048232
>>176048086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJfl_KX2_I

Is there any art of Joker saying Shotaro's catchphrase?
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>i need sandalphon
it takes a hell of a man to make free lunch and superpowers barely even worth hanging out with them

>>176048701
maybe i find her cute and pretty most of the time? i dunno coin toss as to how she decides to take it but that's the option i'd pick
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>>176047426
I have two issues with answering this in any serious and well-thought capacity:
>The two P3 MCs are drastically different in personality, and thus have moderately different roles in their Links, even the shared ones.
>Tying into the last point a bit, P3 was the first game with SLs, which makes it hard to pin down exactly what the devs and writers intended with Door-kun. This also means that Door-tan had a more defined role in her Links, since her stuff was written well after they'd had two games of practice with the formulas of the mechanic.

Simply put, SLs were too new for Door-kun to be able to have a solid defined role in them. If I had to put a word to it anyway, I'd say he's a Shoulder. Most of his SLs have him as a coping aid for the Link, barely acting at all. When he does act, it's almost exclusively as a reactionary force. Still, this is far from being as consistent as it is with 4 and 5.
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>>176048771
Alright, team meeting.

How do you recommend we proceed on the subject of Makoto peeing herself again?
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>>176048772
>I have no idea what a 'Goho-M' is but I finished it
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>>176048269
>>176048306
Was thinking the same thing too.
And I may or may not have wanted to see Chie in a dress anyway.

>>176048296
I did, it's before this choice. If you had to choose between Nanako and IT sluts, everyone would pick Nanako.
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>>176048771
>Hot
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>>176048857
Atlus doesn't really do "subtle." And if you've seen this fandom, or hell, this thread, that's a good thing.
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>A phoenix who can't naturally null/absorb/drain/repel/resist fire

Now that just squares my breasts.
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>>176048964
Those Kawamamis are too big!
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Who has the shittiest life in the phantom thieves?
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>>176048612
They were changed in the Japanese version as well was the point, since they now give you gameplay bonuses besides fusions, and that was always the case for social links/confidants either way, because the problems you help the characters with and the extent that you got involved always varied depending on the person it was about.
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>>176049058
You mean not big enough.
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>>176048949
May I draw her, Joker?

A woman at her most embarrassed would make a perfect new entrance to that art gallery I was applying to submit work to.
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>>176049058
the stripes on that shirt do not seem right
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>>176049013
phoenix needs to burn to be reborn, doesn't it?
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>>176049059
(You)
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>>176049059
Joker.
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>>176048992
It's more that it's frustrating that Atlus don't trust the players enough to pick up on the imagery of their own accord. Most people won't need a character to shout "Oh my god, those ATMs are walking around because Kaneshiro thinks people just dispense money!"
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>>176049058
>>176049106
flat kawakami, titty kawakami, maid kawakami

all kawakami is good
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>>176049106
what does senseis breast milk taste like?
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>>176049196
>It's more that it's frustrating that Atlus don't trust the players enough to pick up on the imagery of their own accord.
Should they?
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>>176043509
I don't find this meme funny because I had an abusive dad and wet the bed until 10th grade
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>>176049196
they probably focus tested it and realized that yeah, the majority of the players can't be trusted to pick up on that
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>>176048949
>Guys, I feel really bad for Makoto...
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>>176047896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2mJUjBE4U0
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>>176049059
Probably Ryuji.

>>176049106
DELET

>>176049146
They're not right at all, they got lazy as fuck.
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>>176049196
>It's more that it's frustrating that Atlus don't trust the players enough to pick up on the imagery of their own accord.
Seeing virtually every persona community online, I'd say Atlus was right. Even when you're bludgeoned with it people still misinterpret/misrepresent it.
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>>176048949
>I could make coffee from it
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>>176049142
Alright, no more suggestions from autists. That just leaves Morgana, Ryuji, Ann, and Haru.

>>176049264
Got any ideas, Ann?
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>>176049253
Go to back to bed Makoto.
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>>176049059
Futaba followed by Joker, then it gets hazy.
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>>176049276
>sandman runs away.
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>>176049241
The kind of people that don't get something that obvious are the kind of people that really don't give a shit anyways. All saying it that blatantly does is hurt the experience for those of us who actually do care imo
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>>176049349
We need to find Makoto's palace. There's probably a subconscious reason for why she keeps wetting herself.
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>>176049349
Let's get her a litter box!
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>>176049264
Anne is such a sweetheart she'd wrap her own jacket around Makoto's waist to keep the poor girl from further embarrassing herself
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Would you take care of your wifes son even if she got knocked up by another guy while you were in a relationship with her?
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>>176048863
Probably there aren't enough KRfags with artistic capabilities.
I will probably request another commission with that idea after mine's is completed.
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How did Makoto's mom die? Like what the fuck is up with Japan and people dropping dead by 45?
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>>176049349
>"They make pagers that when they get wet they vibrate to let the user know they are having an accident! I think we could find one in Electric Town!"
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>>176049324
How many people in /pg/ a general I feel safe in saying generally understands the games better than most other communities, still got the themes of a game like P4 wrong when the game repeats it over and over and over again?
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>>176049196
remember that scene from after you fight shadow Naoto where they spell out what was her issue and then say that again in her S.Link but people to this day claim she is trans?
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>owatta owatta, tsugi iko tsugi
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>>176049349
Maybe it has to do with the abuse she receives from her sister? Perhaps we should infiltrate her palace and steal her heart.
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>>176049324
>>176049261
Game designers are taught very quickly, either through experience or education, that the majority of players need shit explained to them like they're retarded, even if they're not.
>>
Do teenagers really group text a lot? That's something me and my friends have been doing for years. Seeing it in game made me feel less old.

I'm 26
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>>176049440
yeah but then that leads to an influx of the internet being inundated with people going "hurrr why's this airplane bank so retarded with the talking atms with legs" and reviewers giving it shit for being nonsensical
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>>176049542
FUCKING DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>176049203
>all kawakami is good
>wanting proportionally inaccurate Kawakami

It's like you don't really love your waifu.
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Yusuke talking back to the cleaner
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>>176049253
Im sorry this happened to you anon. You're all better now though right?
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>>176049581
They don't make new groups texts everytime they need to talk to each other
#FE did texting so much better than 5 did
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Is there a limit to how many times the flu trick works on the Reaper per trip to Mementos? I managed to kill him three times (out of four tries), but since then I have encountered him 10 times in a row, all in different areas, and he has not had the despair condition once.
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>>176049669
i want mommy gfs
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>>176049581
I never got alone so well with any group that we would text at all outside of the rare "where are you" or "I'm not going today".
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>>176045317
SAUCE
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>>176049581
My friends put me I group text a lot, I instantly mute them though
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>Yu just stands there while Teddie is stealing the bitches
I'm going to kill Teddie!
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>>176046919

As a new promise she wants to fulfill, Futaba designs and wears cosplay to a con/Comiket/whatever to feel better about being in public. Of course, her "key item" has to go with her.

Of course, she attracts plenty of the wrong attention...

Joker catches some upskirt creep-shooters in the act of trying to snap shots of Futaba. Cue him going nuclear and over-the-top fistfights ensue. It's a comedy-fighting comic.

Or course it ends up with Joker back in juvie for assault, but whatever.
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GUYS GUYS

Makoto wears black leggings all the time to hide the wet patches when she pisses herself.
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>>176049059
Joker if he actually cared>Futaba>Joker>Ryuji>Haru>Yusuke>Ann>Makoto
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>>176049542
I'd rather suck his semen out of her after he's done.
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>>176049595
If anything, being so blantant and not even pretending to try and mentally engage the player would make me score it lower if I were a reviewer.

But then I guess maybe that's why I'm not a vidya """journalist""" in the first place.
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>>176049706
Explain. How did that game do it?
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>>176049819
if you're feeling legitimately threatened by teddie you need to have a moment of self reflection
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>>176049059
It's a tie between Ryuji and Futaba.
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>>176049669
Are you implying fan art would ever exaggerate proportions?
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>>176039693
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>>176049832
Makoto is a pleb was a better meme than this
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>>176049819
he doesn't go very far with them
and Yu returns there the next day so he doesn't give a shit
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Makoto "Pee pants" Niijima
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bad bad bathhouse
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>>176049984
wow that's pretty sad.

One of these days I'll get around to playing PQ
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>>176049823
>It's a comedy-fighting comic.
>

EverythingWentBetterThanExpected.jpg

>>176049984
I like Q MC so much more than regular MC.
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>>176049832
This isn't gonna catch on faggot
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>>176049059
Futaba or Ryuji.
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>>176049984
>Fesitval
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>>176050058
do it
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Y'know in the west these kinds of dilemmas are usually settled with song and dance numbers about wanting adventure in the great wide somewhere.

About to make my first attempt at this with a level 16 party and Senri w/red wall. Am I prepped enough?
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>>176050058
PQ is pretty fucking sad at parts
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>>176050058
Q is a good game that gets more shit than it deserves.

There's a lot of "tragic in hindsight" moments if you're familiar with how things go down in 3.
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>>176049984
seeing chie and makoto in the same image is some bizarre shit
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>>176046732
>still no Akechi
shit poll
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>>176049823
>Joker tries to almost rip a guy's face off but can't because he's not in the Metaverse

>One of the guys says he'll regret this because he knows one of the Phantom Thieves. Joker punches him.

>Joker angrily texting Ryuji to haul his ass over there and help him beat up some dudes

FUND IT.
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>>176049895
Different characters had different texting styles which was nice, it feels like in p5 they all talk the same unless Futaba is sperging
Also you had a group chat and you stuck with it so mandatory new group chats weren't being made very single fucking day "guys im worried"
Also it was on the game pad of the wii u so it wasn't so intrusive
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>>176049549
Did you name Joker in your after Shotaro? I did.
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>>176050179
The entire finished product is pretty sad tbqh.
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>>176050157
>level 16 party

How the fuck did you get so overlevelled?

I was like level 7 or 8 doing that shit.
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>>176050184
I really wonder know how bad it would fuck Ken up if he regained his memories of what happened in Q.
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>>176049059
I'd actually go Futaba > Joker >= Ryuji > Yusuke > Haru > Makoto > Ann.
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>>176050157
you are overleveled even
>>176050179
yeah
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>>176050236
Also, not gonna lie, the emoticons and stickers and shit added to each characters personality through the text.

P5 lacks that personality for the most part.
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>>176050293
Dumb frogposter
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>>176050293
>memefrog
die.
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>>176039646
Can't wait to see him again! I'll never bully him!
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>>176050157
>Golden Yukiko
Yes, but I don't know why you didn't just screencap it.
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>>176049984
Man I really want PQ2.

Persona 5 Arena too fuck I want new P5 content RIGHT NOW
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>>176050236
The P4 texting stuff was localization only. Everyone typed normally in Japanese.

>>176050302
That would be a big kick in the ass for everyone.
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>>176050335
oh she's akinari but cute
>>
DAKARA, JOKA
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>>176049832
>>176050037
I'm gonna have to get a quick rundown on this meme
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>>176050363
>>176050373
stay BTFO qfags.
>>
The casino's background music gets really annoying after a while
And by "a while" I mean 5 minutes
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>>176050607
No you dumb bitch stop fucking texting me
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>>176050435
lets not forget the wedding event the one moment where shipperfags can cry tears of joy
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>>176050617
Fuck you
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>>176050617
SEE WHERE THEY MAY FALL!
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>>176050434
I'd like to but my Vita TV browser shits the bed when it gets to the captcha.

>>176050335
>>176050301
Oh. I overdid it? Shit.
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>>176050617
Champaign floose ahnd
dinnah sooz tha
keep yo focus
away from the chicken's head
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>>176050607
Yes, my leader.
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>>176050236
The dub stripped the PTs' texting styles for some stupid reason, likely related to how fucking rushed it probably was.

Remember when there was an interview with the head of Atlus NA about the game just after it had launched in Japan, and he was like "we basically just got the script like yesterday and it's sitting on my desk right now unread because I had to come here today and basically we haven't even started the translation process yet"?

Frankly we're lucky the game didn't get more delays.
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>>176050453
Isn't that basically Maki's situation in Persona 1?
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>>176050607
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>>176050671
How would Joker react to getting paired up with Yu?
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>>176048949
>Be Makoto Niijima
>Our smart and incredibly charming leader calls us to mementos for another mission
>Try to open the door to get into Morgana bus but it won't open
>Everyone inside won't look at me as I pound on the door and Futaba is laughing
>Morgana finally speaks up and says I had too many accidents and he'd prefer not to get peed on for the 4 time this week
>they drive off without me leaving me at the opening
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>>176050228
>Joker jumps on the guys back
>SHOW ME YOUR TRUE FORM
>claws his fingers into the guy's skull and begins literally pulling his face off
>people are screaming as blood is flying everywhere
>Joker finally realizes his mistake
>Morgana: Joker, I think we should go to sleep for today
>Yeah you know what I think I'm gonna agree with you this time let's get the fuck out of here.
>They casually, but quickly walk away as the man tries to put the shreds of his face back on
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>>176050195
how about this
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>>176050671
on one hand I don't want them just rehashing the memorable moments from Q, but on the other hand I kinda wish they'd do that again in Q2 so I can marry Haru
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>>176050772
Why the fuck does Atlus wait so long to give the script to Atlus USA? It was probably done for fucking months already.
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TEAMMATES?!

FRIENDS?!

TO HELL WITH THAT
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>>176050854
that ain't right
>>
How often does Makoto piss herself?
Do you think Sae beats her when she does?
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Ann > Takemi >>> Everyone else
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>>176050927
YOU'RE JUST LICKING EACH OTHERS' WOUNDS
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>>176050893
they legit don't give a shit about Atlus USA and us. They just said not too long ago that they care more about China and Korea than NA and Europe
>>
PERSONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGGGGGGHGH
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>>176039476
Exactly what is Yusuke's role in the group after Madarame?
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>>176050973
tae was my first and only valentines and christmas

i mean this is mostly because i burned out on NG+ after okumura, but still
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>>176049253
/pg/ anon peed himself again
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>>176051035
guy who does funny things
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>>176051001
being a filthy gaijin is suffering
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>>176050938
Once or twice a week
Every time
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>>176050793
tries to play along but is disappointed
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>>176050927
>>176050987
Some of the best quotes in the game! Persona 5: Akechi Goro when?
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>>176051035
Autistic guy who is funny.
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>>176051035
Awkward fish out of water man
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>>176050973
You have good taste but personally I would just lump Tae with everybody else because Ann is the only girl that matters.
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>>176051035
Why does /pg/ care so much about story roles?
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>>176051135
I was quoting best boy, fuck Goro.
>>
Why is the first boss one of the only ones with an actual proper boss design? Madarame is a fucking face, Kaneshiro is a fly with a dumb robot, Wakaba's just a sphinx with her head, Okumura's a mob boss, Sae's just her in armour

Lion Shido is the only other boss-boss that comes to mind, but then he just turns into Armstrong
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>>176051030
God damn akechi's English VA is so fucking good. Hell, they're all good

>b-but muh weeb dub so much better muh English VA's a shit

yeah you're bitching about the localization you weeb fucks, not the voice actors themselves.
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>>176049836
>Haru
>Shitty life
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>>176051189
So you WERE quoting Goro?
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>>176051272
wait for it
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>>176050357
True
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>>176050228

Should I drawfag or writefag this?

Should Joker also be in cosplay? I was thinking maybe dressed in cosplay himself for exta keks. Maybe as Batman, I don't know.

Or maybe just go full River City Ransom.
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>>176051312
No Pancake boy is a fucking joke compared to best boy and /ourguy/ Adachi.
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>>176051252
I think other boss designs are fine.
You can make anything sound bad the way you describe it. Watch:
Kamoshida is a fucking goblin king.
Shido is just riding a lion and turns into a pyramid.
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>>176051378
i wish my phone told me when new side stories were available
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>>176051272
The VAs are fine, their direction was shit.

>Sa-KAH-moto
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>>176051272
Except you're wrong, they're not good at all.

>>176051318
>HURR WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO CALL ME OUT ON MY SHITTY OPINION

Your opinion is shit. It deserves to be called out.
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>>176048246
>>176048140
https://pastebin.com/edit/7hWzg8fb
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>>176051447
Good one! But I won't hold it to you, you'll come around to /ourguy/ Goro eventually.
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>>176051461
Compare these bosses to P4's shadow forms and the full moon shadows and they're pretty boring
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>>176051035
He's the guy that told the group not to fall for the hype and when they fell for the hype goes "I TOLD YOU NOT TO FALL FOR THE HYPE!" but since no one listens to him (even though Yusuke and Joker are basically on the same page most of the game) it was as if his input wasn't necessary at all.
That's okay though, Yusuke told them not to fall for the hype and to keep acting as usual, Joker said the same thing. He's my bro.
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>>176051252
nigga, Madarame was rad as fuck
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>>176051512
there it is
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>>176050827
I've had enough leave Makoto alone. For real this time if she's not getting cigarettes put out on her tongue she's peeing herself or something else mean or embarrassing is happening to her
STOP!
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>>176051512
There he is boys. The same buttblasted weeb who literally just says

>no you're wrong the dub is shit

Without saying a single thing else.

You waited, and he delivered.
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>>176051542
some of the full moon shadows were pretty neat but they didn't really compare to the spectacle of stuff like the wakaba fight
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Posting on /pg/ too much distorted your desires to the point that you now have a palace
What does your palace look like?
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>>176051512
Lmfao. Like pottery.
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>>176050201
>Still no groo
amazing poll
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>>176051494
At least they say their first names right, and call them by those names most of the game.
>>
>>176050872
One thing I want about Q2 is that it has more lasting implications in other spinoffs.

The only thing I can think of in Q is that having remnant memories from it would explain why they all trust each other so much/get along so well in Ultimax. Especially stuff like Kanji stepping in to protect Ken.
>>
I ship Ann with the Foreign Baker
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>>176050927
>>176050987
That scene was way too similar to the IT confronting Adachi, right down to the "you're just a kid throwing a temper tantrum" but.
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>>176051643
the surface of Makoto's big booty
they don't realize where they are until it's too late
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>>176051541
You know what? I take back what I said. Adachi and Goro are both /ourguys/
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>>176051643
Does an unhealthy attachment to a fictional character count as distorted desire?
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>>176051494
Direction kinda ties in with localization.

But my point was a lot of people hate on the English VA's even though what they're hating on has nothing to do with the VA's performances
>>
>Treat Ryuji like shit for the entire game
>Ryuji claps back one(1) good time
>boo hoo woe is me, no one appreciate me, way

Morgan's fucking sucks
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>still can't decide between Rise and Chie
>this comes out of nowhere
Please advise, /pg/.
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>>176051494
>awn
>taKAmaki
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>>176051643
Probably a really small comfy room with a Kotatsu and lots of photos of Kawakami all over the place.
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>>176051643
>What does your palace look like?
/pg/
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>>176051715
>"you're just a kid throwing a temper tantrum" Adachi
>"you're just a kid throwing a temper tantrum" Sho
>"you're just a kid throwing a temper tantrum" Groo.

Can they make a "foil" to MC without reusing that fucking line?
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>>176051728
I can agree with that.
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>>176051643
The main menu of proto-P5
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>>176050335
"Ho, I don't give a fuck, get in the casket"
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i think i want to fuck the cat now
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>>176051494
I fucking hate this so much.
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>>176051790
It was more
Tuh kah meh kee
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>>176051789
if its vanillla i think you fine with romacing both of them
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>>176051720
>Trying to turn /pg/ into a bunch of Macrofags.
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>>176051697
I'd like this too. Q had some genuinely great character moments and it's kind of a shame that they basically amounted to nothing because mindwipe.
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>>176051695
>first names right
>reeyuji
>awn

Japanese a is never soft like aw
Ryuji is two syllables, not three

Yanks can't into Japanese
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>>176051480
Mystic Messanger, if you like otomeshit
they even call you and talk with you
it's nice
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>>176051643
My desires are already distorted enough without /pg/'s help

My palace is a hotel. I guess in a sense it'd be similar to Shido's with a lot of hallways, a lot of them leading to nowhere. There'd be visits to the actual hotel rooms though like the IT guy's suite. The lobby is where you start, and then a big conference hall is where the boss fight would be.

My Shadow would be dressed in trashy Hot Topic clothes, mixed with a puppet master theme. The gimmick of the boss fight would be to control one party member right away, so you have to send another away to break the strings, effectively making the fight a two vs two fight, but any damage you inflict on the controlled teammate will carry over.
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>>176051894
But haremfagging is wrong, anon.
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>>176051789
Harem.

But if not, Rise is best girl.
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>>176051035
Being best boy
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>>176051378
>>176050357
Is it even a good game?
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>>176051035
Least interesting character. Ryuji was better in every effin way.
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>>176051695
>at least these professionals who are paid to do this exact job only fucked up a little bit even though they could have just phonetically copied the Japanese audio

Yeah, no. There's no excuse for shitty direction like this.

>>176051774
I get that, I'm not playing the blame game. I'm just saying, their direction was awful. Basic pronunciation should be a no-brainer. They could have just listened to how the names sounded in the Japanese version and copied that. No reason to change what syllable gets accented.
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>>176051303
>Has to keep up with his father's decisions for her
>Forced to marry a disgusting man for his father's political gains
>Father only treats her like a stepping stone
>People around her don't really care about her, they just treat her nice so they can get brownie points from his rich father
Just because she is rich doesn't mean she has a great life.
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>>176051782
Don't fret, morgana will die in a 10 year time without tasting human pussy and ryuji will fuck ann on his grave
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Fucking Futaba has given me more Heat Risers during 10 minutes of Mementos money farming than she did during the entirety of my first playthrough. Fuck you.
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>tfw just told Tae I only visited her for my studies
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>>176051862
Hey, not so rough<3
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>>176051903
Yeah, I mean I get why they did it.

But I really just don't want a Q2 to pull time shenanigans. It worked the first time, this time I'd like it to just be set after the end of the most recent game in the crossover.
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>>176051789
You choose Naoto, the true best girl.
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>>176051782
Ryuji genuinely deserves it though, he's a worthless moron who actively drags the team down
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>>176051910
can the japanese really into foreign words either though

i swear to god when mitsuru is screaming "penthesilea" in JP it sounds like she's sucking thirty dicks
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>constantly be mean and aggressive to the twins
>they start feeling a bit upset by it
heh
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>>176051789
Dump both, go for actual best girl

>>176052227
eat shit, cat
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>>176052063
Characters are very likeable if a bit one dimensional.
Story is very meh, except for a couple stand out moments, and even then only if you like fire emblem fanservice like I do.

Gameplay though is phenomenal. Better than P5.

Overall I don't regret my time with it whatsoever.
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https://youtu.be/L0LLzZczmdM

Makoto's

English Voice Actress
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>>176051910
>Ryuji
Who actually cares.
>Ann
Except they made her name Ann there, not An like in the Japanese version.
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>>176051782
>Respond to "Morgan" shitting almost everytime
>Pick on him about that 1 time he wasn't so useful in MORE THAN ONE OCASSION
Ryuji a shit!
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>>176052172
This is exactly what I want out of Q2 as well. That gimmick worked once, but I don't want them repeating it. All I want is to assemble a team of my favorite Persona characters for some dungeon crawling with cute and fun character interactions between the casts.
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>>176052063
In typical FE fashion it had a messy story but good gameplay
I really liked it, the NG+ difficulty is really punishing and doesn't strip you of EXP, probably one of my favorite difficulty modes I've ever played on.
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>>176052072
>empty shelves

>>176052258
don't do that
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>>176052202
t. Morgana
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>>176052368
>empty shelves
well, MC is an orphan
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>>176049549

Doujinfag here.

I'm a hardcore Showa Riderfag as well, so much so I like to add scarves to everything I doodle (pic related).

I'll eventually get around to drawing this as well, but it's gonna take a while considering my backlog and the 40k sprues littering my desk. Oh and work.
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>>176052191
She's not even in the party yet. Guess I can sit on this decision for a little while.

>>176052274
>putting you through fusion autism
I may not know who the best girl is yet, but I can safely say that Margaret is the worst one.
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>>176052227
They have a different soundset though, they at least have an excuse
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>Japanese VA pronounce English words incorrectly
>Nobody bats an eye

>English VA pronounce Japanese words incorrectly
>omg this game sucks
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>>176052163
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>>176045317
I need a source on this.
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>>176052557
but fusion autism is delicious
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>>176052557
Naoto was my favorite girl too. Don't choose one until you've met them all. Naoto comes late.
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>>176052315
It's not pronounced "awn" in english either
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>>176052695
Because all they have to do is listen to how the source material pronounces it. It's not fucking hard.
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>>176052695
>Japanese VA acts like how Japanese would
vs.
>English VA acting as Japanese and pronouncing their names wrong
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>>176052482
Can't wait to see it.
I know real life can be a bitch, so take your time.
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>>176052227
Japanese language is straight up missing sounds making it hard for adults to properly pronounce shit.
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>>176052557
>dislikes fusion autism
>plays persona games
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>>176052482
You're doing god's work, Doujin/Draw/Write/Futaba/Fag fag.
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>>176045317
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>>176052760
If an English VA were to act like a Japanese, they shouldn't be speaking English in the first place.
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>>176052557
Rise gives the best Christmas present, if you care about that at all.
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>>176052732
Names can be pronounced in many ways your parents decided how to. Ann is definitely pronounced as "Ahn" or "Awn" as how you apparently heard it.
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>>176052863
You're really retarded aren't you?
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>>176053023
Why the fuck do people use "ah" to mean soft a

It obviously represents a hard a you fucking imbeciles
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>>176053024
Are you? With your logic, Japanese people with English VAs should be speaking Japanese, which is correct.
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>>176052863
Just what the hell are you trying to say anon?
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>>176052760

You this doesn't happen in Persona (yet) but there are plenty of foreign characters in Japanese media, played by Japanese acting and sounding just like a Japanese person except by throwing in a random Engrish word every few sentences.

And it's not even if the character is American or British or Austrailian. It's Engrish no matter where they come from.
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>>176053023
When does anyone ever pronounce it like "Awn" in English
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>>176053096
I did mean a hard A.
"Anne" however would've used a softer A.
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>>176052095
>People around her don't really care about her, they just treat her nice so they can get brownie points from his rich father
That's a lie though. Do her SL.
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>>176053147
They should speak it well, and they don't. Conversely, a nip speaking bad engrish is expected because that's how a nip would actually speak english 9 times out of 10.
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>i was made in the shape of a human so that i could create a persona
>because a tank that recognized itself as a tank would create a tank persona
>and that's no good
how did makoto even end up with a bike then
>>
Can you break links?
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>>176053147
I'm not even him.
You just think that a dub should speak in the original language which defeats the purpose. People are only saying that a dub should mimic the prognostications that are not translatable.
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>>176052095
And all her problems end once her father is dealt with coincidentally and she's free to drink as much poop as she wants
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>>176052728
Alright, I'll sit on it then.

>>176052951
Sure I do. Will keep it in mind.

>>176052832
>not disliking requests for good personers fused with shitty skills
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Rescue complete, time to find out who the asshole is that's been throwing pe-
FUCK.
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Are people seriously this autistic about voice acting?
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>>176042002
Never thought I'd see a Jibanyan reaction image let alone in this general. Saved.
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>>176053418
*pronunciation fuck me
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>>176053434
Hope you enjoy that cycle till november
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>>176053474
How the fuck is this your first time seeing the sub vs dub argument?
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>>176053474
this is only light autism
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>>176053560
>>176053560
>>176053560
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>>176053434
nigga what the fuck are you doing? P4 is on PS2/vita, you can take fucking screenshots.
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>>176041995
Nope, chances of hitting are such a big gamble that anything below a guaranteed two is bad.
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>>176050779
Yes.
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>>176053394
beep boop
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>>176053587
He's probably playing it on an actual PS2.
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>>176053394
She sexually identifies as a motorcycle.
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>>176053693
it's a P4G dialogue box
either way, he's using vita Tv and explained why he's taking photos instead of screenshots
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>>176053575
Wait until we take this argument up to MAXIMUM
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>>176052328
I want Baofu and Futaba to get along.
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