/arena/ - Arena FPS General

>>175980654
Somehow an average best player is always playing as the fattest hero. And those who manage to be the best with squishy champs like that stealth tumblrina, they have superior aim, which wouldn't be any worse when playing with dem greasy 150hp characters.

Being able to survive 2 heavy hits instead of 1 does wonders, allowing you recover. Say what you want, but Aim > HP > Speed.

>>175981036
Yeah, that's exactly the problem with hitscan dominance in the game right now. Low TTK in the current balance feeling shit is a personal issue, balance in regards to damage output being busted to the point of weapons being objectively 100% outclassed by others isn't.

>>175981494
Not even just that but in vq3 you start with 125 HP so that you can survive rails on spawn but in QC you have characters with around 70HP which just get destroyed by rail shots.

reminder that map control is more important than weapon accuracy

>>175981857
not atm until they change how stacks work

>>175981857
fact.

RA and Mega control is everything

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Graphics? Okay at best.
Music and Voice quality? Shit.
Interface and controls? Alright.
Amount of content? Lacking.
Game balance? Fucking garbage.

+ everything lags

Quake Champions aka 'Shlomo requires more gold at the expense of that long buried franchise we dug up from the trash heap recently'

reminder to ignore and report the redditspacing retard

>>175982337
>Interface and controls? Alright.
Now I know you're shitposting

>>175982597
Those were fine compared to 95% of games in the industry. At least this one is made for PC, unlike dem awful console ports which can barely be controlled with keyboard and mouse.

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>>175982337
it's a beta my man it's mostly placeholders

once it's finished it will be the definitive arena shooter for the next 20 years

abilities and different toons add another layer of strategy/skill to the game. veterans only hate it because they're too old to learn something new

>>175981386
>using hitscan on a weapon that uses bullets is lazy design.

Why? Says who? Explain your reasoning.
Bullets travel so quickly in real life that they're visibly imperceptible, meaning simulating a projectile at the same speed would just decrease the accuracy or performance of the simulation over the network compared to a hitscan calculation for little to no actual gain, unless you're suggesting that bullet-based weapons fire out nerf darts in which case making them fire dodgeable projectiles "Just because muh skill" is myopic too since doing that would homogenize, for example, HMG and SNG into two different damage/firerate values where the way they function now they could be balanced into two equally viable situational weapons just through tweaking damage values alone.

plasma gun never ever

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>>175982797
> once it's finished it will be the definitive arena shooter for the next 20 years

Nah. Not only does the industry change it's main audience every decade, Quake is catering towards old veterans who are an absolute minority, while trying to shove the modern and hip MOBA elements in there, to attract the newfriends. In the end this game has an identity crisis, and most likely will be played by old farts trying to revisit some old memories, plus an occasional xxxTimmy666Destroyerxxx who enters to show his dominance to classmates, by spending his moms money on chests and backpacks full of virtual recolored armor.

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>download update, boot up game
>stuck on loading screen
>10 minutes later main menu finally shows up
>queue up for duel
>get a match, both squares light up
>"The match has been canceled."
>why this
>requeue, pick champs, map starts loading
>its still loading 5 minutes later
>dont even play the match, get sent straight to main menu with no error message
>requeue, bla bla bla
>map only takes 30 seconds to load this time
>match starts, get in a fight, combat feels laggy
>210 ping
>w h y
>somehow get the frag regardless
>a few seconds later, pic related pops up
>im still connected to the server
>i can still talk in chat and hear the other guy jumping around and picking up items
>he can even see my message and responds
>game kicks me from the match
>sent to a login screen that i didnt have to go through when i booted up the game
>Bethesda account details dont even work
>"This has to be on my end, right?"
>turn off anything that could possibly be using internet, reboot router
>reboot up the game
>main loading screen only takes about 10 seconds this time, queue up for tdm
>get sarnath instead of covenant, another 5 minute loading screen
>215 ping again
>everyone else has 30-60 ping
>get the same error a minute through
>literally cannot play the game
>boot up reflex
>65 ping, no network errors whatsoever
Fun.

>>175983894
>fell for the reflex meme when CPMA can be played for free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxgs7yFFRHI

>>175984050
you're late

>>175983894
Scoreboard ping display is busted, you can be shown 250ms while you really have 30 and vice-versa. It'd regularly say I had 30 while I was connecting to NA servers. I'm in Australia, so that's literally physically impossible.

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>>175984193
> literally physically impossible

Slash is unfairly weakened by only being able to pick up 75 armor from the RA instead of 100. It just doesn't make sense to give Slash such a massive penalty over Nyx and Anarki

>>175984375
Nah, if you know how to properly crouchslide around corners her insane movement potential can more than makeup for that.

>>175982918
please let's not start this again. i have explained my reasoning multiple times already and at the end of the day it's just my opinion. it's ok for you to disagree with me. i just don't get how you can think that this is the "best shotgun design evarrr!!!!" when these exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp7HQUqfvnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKyHtDIyfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZecx_CuXXU

in my opinion projectiles are simply more rewarding as they are harder to land. in my opinion good game design is making the weapons as rewarding as possible. an airocket, where i have to predict the enemy's moves is more fun to me than a headshot, where i don't have to lead my shot.

again you can disagree with this, but don't act like your opinion is the objective truth. also note that i never called it 'bad design' i called it lazy (it requires objectively less effort than calculating travel time and bullet drop) and cheap (it is objectively cheaper to implement, as it requires less calculations). call it 'futuristic laserbeam shotgun' and it's fine with me. calling it the best 'shotgun' design ever just shows me that you have little fps experience outside of quake.
stop being so upset about different opinions, this is not a fucking circlejerk hugbox. i won't comment on this any further. i am done talking to you.

>unironically linking to meme videos
opinion completely, one hundred percent disregarded

>>175985056
how is it lazy when projectile weapons already exist in the game
also i doubt you have that much fps experience based on your three picks

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>>175985397
>>175985612

>>175984968
if you know how to properly walljump or maximize air control, Anarki and Nyx more than make up for that

They made Slash the most fragile character in the game and there's no good reason why.

>>175985056
>Bad Company
Bullets are simulated because it's pseudo-real and combat is at a long enough range for the extra toll of sending the state of a bullet projectile over network to be additive to the experience. There's also zero concern in regards to network accuracy in *any* Battlefield game, so the networked simulations aren't accurate nor do they even try to be.
>Flak Cannon
Deals enough damage to oneshot without all projectiles connecting as the balance tradeoff for not being instant. Characters don't move anywhere near as fast so the tradeoff is less severe.
>Torb and Roadhog's
>Implying any sort of skill involved in hitting anything in Overwatch
>Implying network accuracy in the die around a wall to hitscanners 24/7 day game

>>175985756
this is just getting sadder and sadder. you know what, anon? i'm starting to feel bad about this. picking on the handicapped kid just isn't very satisfying. instead, i'm going to brighten up your life a little. i'm going to be that one shining ray of light in your bleak existence.

i will let you have the last word.

so come on, let me have it. make it count. i'll gladly take it if it means you'll experience the sweet taste of victory for once in your life, and you can go to bed knowing you achieved something.

>>175985831
no.

>haha i cant make an argument so i will just pretend i won it :)))))
i dont know where the fuck you came from but you should probably go back

>>175985831
If this is your attempt at weaseling out of a situation where you're clearly fucking wrong I just want to let you know that absolutely nobody is buying it or on your side here. The effort is totally wasted. Maybe try the "I was trolling" defense next time.

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>>175985831
>going full fedora

>>175985831
is this the same anon that though plasma and nail didnt have splash damage

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>getting butthurt over different opinions
i see, QC brought in all the kids. it's like i'm really on reddit.

>"wow this is literally objectively lazy less skill based design!"
>Gets told how it isn't
>"wow butthurt over different opinions much? it's literally just my opinion! it's literal and objective too, but just my opinion!"

I'm going to brighten up your life a little. I'm going to be that one shining ray of light in your bleak existence. I'm going to give you your last (You).

Here it comes.
>>175986359

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>>175986646
that pasta really upset you, huh? i'm sorry, i didn't mean to hurt you feewings

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>still acting like everyone hasn't been having a laugh at your expense for the last 4 hours

>>175986725
That toddler looks like an old man. Just color his hair grey and add some wrinkles, and you will get a 70 year old grandpa.

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>>175986906
you are literally adding nothing to this thread, at least the other guy provided some arguments and an opinion of his own. why do you bother? what is the point of your posts?

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reminder to join quake 2 this sunday

http://shutupandgame.blogspot.de/2012/03/hitscan-weapons-are-garbage-throw-them.html

>>175981707
It really does suck getting one shot by RG before you can build some kind of a stack. At the same time RG dmg has always been 80 the zoom function makes it a million times more broken, so i'm not really sure how ID fixes the RG without trashing the zoom.

>say you're not accepting any arguments because you're too smallbrain to keep responding
>"lmao what are y000 contributing to the thread??? why aren't you posting arguments that i just said id ignore???"

ahahahaha holy shit it keeps going.

>>175987659
what are you on about?

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>>175987180
>IP doesn't go up
>Literally the only person to have posted in this thread with anything positive to say about Projectileguy since the beginning of the thread has been Projectileguy himself

>>175987651
The RG damage was 100 in Quake 2 and 3 and it was nerfed in CPM and QL. Not sure if I'm misinterpreting your post.

>>175987837
i wasn't talking about myself, you fucking moron. i was talking about the guy i was arguing with for hours. he provided arguments. he was able to make comments that contributed to the discussion.
this guy
>>175987659
>>175986906
>>175985983
did not. i don't understand what the point of his posts is

Laughing at you because you're fucking retarded, presumably.

>>175988218
i'm retarded for having a different opinion?

IP bump

>>175988218
>>175988297
answer the question or tell me exactly where i was 'wrong', i honestly don't understand. no, i'm not pretending and no, i'm not upset. just curios

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>when you continually get armor shaders for everyone but your main
send help

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>spend 4 hours arguing that hitscan makes a game objectively less skillbased, calling people retarded etc.
>run out of actual arguments
>suddenly it's just a different opinion

>>175988362
same. hello anon

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Patrician tier: Ranger, Galena, Visor
Acceptable tier: Slash, Anarki
You're playing the wrong game: Everyone else
Kill you are self irl real life: Nyx

>>175988919
Good tier: Ranger
Worse than Ranger tier: Everyone else.

Weaknesses in mobility, health and size are too severe on every other champ. Lack of a worthwhile active ability pushes Visor just slightly below Ranger. Scalebearer and Sorlag's "murder the whole fucking room" actives almost pull them out of the trashcan their speed and hitboxes put them in but not really.

>>175989256
Those are based on how cancer the classes themselves are, not balance

>>175988851
>hitscan makes a game objectively less skillbased
how is that wrong? please explain.

are you still claiming that pointing a laser pointer at someone takes as much skill as leading your shots? how is clicking on something in your los as skillful as memorizing item timings and predicting the enemies position based on that? the former is reflexes + hand-eye coordination. the latter is the same, but also requiring prediction of movement and knowing the timings. projectiles add another layer of skill, called gamesense.

are you seriously denying that?

for the record: i am not saying that hitscan should be removed from the game

For Quake Champions why would anybody pick a class if it didn't have 150 hp? I feel like spawning with more health is a massive advantage, even if you do move a bit slower.

who /visor/ here

>>175989330
Still stands.
On the plus side, Ranger Tier doesn't overlap with your Cancer Tiers.

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Slash quotes:

>I'm going to flip you like a table (menu selection)
>Guess who's baack (entering game)
>Sploosh hahaha
>Skank (I think this is on fragging Sorlag)
>My skates were totally having a malfunction
>RRRGH!
>Piss off bozo!
>Deededede doo
>I doubt you've ever been that hard chump
>What are you waiting for? You blow them up!(not sure if I got this one right)
>They said I could be anything, so I became an agent of CHAOS
>SKATE or DIE! (only saw this twice both times fragging another Slash using her active ability while also using Slash's active ability)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjKp3dHYxs&list=PLEOQ0YA_1DWmm_ZnPh9ZRJ2W3yjbzWy0E
>Wheeeee!

I need help getting more.

Also, ffs id Software this game is fighting for WORST audio engine on a modern game in 2017. Zero positional sound, sound volume is totally whack. You can actually hear other players(and their speech) but it's so quiet you have to be literally on top of them.

>>175989657

>5 hours of playtime and I have never played anything but Ranger

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EASYMODE HARDMODE

>Heavies
Easy: Scalebearer
Middle: Sorlag
Hard: Clutch

>Lightweights
Easy: Nyx
Middle: Anarki
Hard: Slash

>Middleweights
Easy: Galena
Middle: Ranger
Hard: Visor

>>175990068
>Hard: Visor
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAH
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>175990068
>sorlag
>not retarded easy

kys

>>175990324
His active does fucking nothing.
>You see guys through the wall. Maybe they're close enough that it makes a difference or it's at the right time for it to make a difference in a fight. BIG maybe. The biggest.
Meanwhile
>Galena: Heal yourself or your teammates AND drop a damaging mine
>Ranger: Teleport to escape, deal damage or potentially even 1hk someone

>>175990469

Same, and dont think so. Companies want the extra datamining of your computer and its activity.

>>175990447
Scalebearer is easier.

>>175990557
wallhack is very useful in duel

>>175982797
>toons

Quake is an anime not a cartoon.

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will they add more heroes to the beta before the game launches?

>>175991268

Goggle man is Razor, or Biker

>>175990740
They want 100% of the profit from every microtransaction.
That's literally it. Steam would get them a larger and more willing audience but they take a cut and Bethesda can't see how they're setting themselves up for failure.

>>175991258
>Quake is an anime
i thought quake was a vido gam ??????

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>>175992659
Quake is a comic book, you fucking faggots.

>>175987256
But I've never played Q2 multiplayer, only Quakeworld and Q3A.

>>175989764
I do not like these lines.

So is Visor strogg or what?

>glance at task manager
>champions using >10gb ram
Quality

Man i hope le Pen brings a chaingun and a quad to the election

>>175993792
yeah, i had to try to launch it like 5 times before it would start because of repeated memory leaks.

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>>175993141
then you're in for a treat

>>175993736
no hes just a cybernetic made by the ruskies
strogg is a group of aliens who collect lifeforms and staple machines onto them

I know Scalebearer is annoying with the charge but I still dont think heavies are viable in this game especially with them taking extra damage vs lightning gun

>>175993736

Not every cyborg in quake is a strogg

Besides strogg suck anyway they are like edgy Borg

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>>175994773
pleb

>>175991268
yeah, at least 12 on release so all of those will be beta tested first

>>175989764
>augh! it's getting way too emo in here

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>>175988919
>this image

>>175989382
A projectile weapon can be more skillbased depending on splash radius, damage, travel time, size of the projectile, speed of the enemy. A projectile weapon isn't inherently more skillbased just for using a projectile. Making a weapon projectile-based just because "muh projectile more skillbased!" without considering all the other aspects of the game is short sighted.

A projectile weapon in a space where it doesn't fit balance-wise will be ignored and contribute nothing to the game. A projectile weapon that will be ignored and also comes at the expense of a weapon that already suits its role in the game perfectly fine (the shotgun) removes a viable option from the game that would make it more skillbased by introducing an extra layer of thought into what weapon you're going to use in a situation. In this case, viability in different situations so that it's *actually used in high level play* takes precedence over the mechanical difficulty of the weapon and in Quake 3 it is balanced in kind: high but not insane damage at close range, low but reliable damage at a distance. If you made the shotgun mechanically identical to the flak cannon's primary fire, you'd get a conefire weapon that can bounce off of walls that fills those roles so poorly in the high speed context of Quake to be useless in every other aspect outside of close range, where the travel time matters least to mechanical skill. There is already a weapon in Quake called the Grenade Launcher that can hit people around walls, that takes more effort to connect since it needs to hit directly or be timed to explode at the right time. Flak cannon in Quake would make the game less skill based by putting a less skill based gun in that role.

Lastly, the argument that all bullet weapons should utilize projectiles because "bullets aren't lasers in real life!!! it should be called the laser shotgun then!!!" is pedantic as fuck and retarded for reasons obvious to pretty much anyone aside from you apparently.

Why is the shotgun the most inconsistent piece of shit in quake ever?

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>>175995802
We fixed this a while ago. Now all T. Willy has to do is catch up.

>>175995802

Just dont use it as a dedicated killing weapon

In QC its a special kind of bad to me though increase the fire rate of tighten the spread

>>175996886
It feels extra powerful and cheap in QC but that might just be because most guys aren't building stack or even recovering health between fights and are getting demolished.

>>175997225

Its really inconsistent to me in QC I dont know why

Im not the best quake player either but it just feels weird compared to live

>>175997303
To be fair, nothing is consistent in QC right now >>175950605

dm or tdm to que games faster? eu

>>175998602
TDM in my experience.

>>175989764
yeah the sound engine is totally fucked
i think doom 2016's sound mixing is pretty bad as well with the metal being really quiet in the middle of gameplay

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>>175995916
it's a fixed spread in QC noob

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>>175999520
Show it to me.
I don't want to wait for a game I don't particularly want to play to launch + find a match + load into a map just to check.

>>175999689
>tfw no offline training mode
whoever didnt include this should be fired

>>175999520
that's a pretty sexy back, nice curvature, good backbone, nice sideboob with the tiniest hint of side-cleavage
shame the shoulderpad covers her armpit though

initial thoughts

Lightning gun is overpowered. Extremely high DPS and it knocks you around + hitscan, higher DPS than rail.

Zoom bonus damage on super SMG is retarded.

Rocket launcher feels like trash.

Champion balance feels cheesy. They should be toned down in uniqueness by about 40% towards a middle ground. So that each champ is more similar movement/health wise.

>>175999492
Didn't have a problem with the volume of the music but Doom 2016's positional audio totally sucked just as much as QC's does.

>>176001336
>Champion balance feels cheesy. They should be toned down in uniqueness by about 40% towards a middle ground. So that each champ is more similar movement/health wise.

A lot of people are saying this but even more are being speds and screaming that everyone should just adapt like the balance doesn't actually suck dick. Don't expect a fix.

hey guys
I enjoyed quake 1-3a plus mods before 2003
took a break until tf2, played it casual and in 6s for years
already have 1000 hours in ow
am addicted to the qc beta

you see
for some people it just works out
and there is nothing you can say or do to make me feel bad about it
whereas everything you try to say just reflects how bitter you are
:^)

>>176001551
i dunno why they fucked it up
i didn't play rage but everything before had perfectly fine audio

>>175919472
>I like crit rockets in Team Fortress 2.
The only positive aspect to random crits in TF2 is that it forces some positive reactions.
People excuse themselves when they get stupid crit kills. It's probably because TF2 players are a large part children so they're pretty mature about things unlike manchildren but it really makes you feel good. It's like the guy who just killed you pats you on the back and says "we're all in this together".

is there a way to play quake champions with my friend? We've both got the beta.

>>176002364
The box with the + in it in the bottom left corner of the main menu.

>tfw your mom asks to play quake champions with you and your name is cuntslayer2k

>>176002397
I've noticed that but this is my first time with the launcher and I'm not sure how to actually add them as a friend.

>>176001551
the music in this game sucks ass. I miss the old quake music, and was hoping for some good tunes considering how well done doom4 was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0

>>176002809
the main menu music is pretty good imo
it would be cool if they added the old soundtracks though

>>176002978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OinLxusNRsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcL3jHCDhNU

>>176002809
new doom's music was good, but some songs went completely overboard with the dubstep effects
i wish it was more thrashy

also ruins of sarnath has literal garbage tier music

I am consistently going something around 40-20 in QC, am I gud yet?

>>176003437
chris vrennna, the drummer from nin is working on qc, just be open to it

>>176003502
>>176002809
the new tunes were appropriate but lack any kind of memorable melodies apart from bfg division
I was surprised they played descent into cerberon at that awards show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBKFB28E0M
>>176003594
depends who you're playing against.

>>176003594
my kd ratio is everything but consistent in this game, sometimes it's 12.0 with enemies that stand still to shoot you with their starting machine gun and sometimes it's 0.4 with dudes landing every rocket

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>have to zoom in for max damage
this is by far and away the worst quake ever created. mobacodquake needs to die hard and i'm going to make fun of how big of a casual pussy you are every time this game is mentioned.

>>176003502
>also ruins of sarnath has literal garbage tier music
I like it, it goes well with the rain

>>176003658
didn't he make the doom 3 soundtrack?

>>176003709
idk, i thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0 was pretty memorable

>>176003961
consider the fact that zooming forces the person using the weapon to slow down.

This is an intentional method of balancing the very high damage hitscan weapons that you have to zoom with. The weapons are basically given two different methods of use- high speed, average hitscan damage and low speed, high hitscan damage.

>>176004241
yeah that's not quake tho.

What's the definitive Q2 sourceport for singleplayer?

>>176004415
i like yamagi quake
the game is perfectly playable with just the 3.24 patch

>>176004379
so RG and HMG should *only* do 80 and 9 damage each with no zoom?

or you want RG and HMG more powerful and do 100 and 12 damage each with zoom?

no brain, no aim, hitscan main.

this relic from the 90s needs to be removed already

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>>176004415
q2pro or yamagi
vanilla works perfectly fine though

>>176005247
damage shouldn't be based on zoom period. not quake.

>>176005265
the issue is the 7 damage. The lightning gun is a weapon for finishing people off and engaging at medium ranges. This is the balance between the rocket launcher, the lg, and rail.

Rail is for long range poking. rl is for close range fighting and spam. lg is for movement control and medium range. the 7 damage lets it compete with the rl

>>176005467
go back to your dead ql if you don't like it

>>176005421
what's up with the cel shading

>>176005545
nah i'd rather make fun of mobacodquake retards like you. you're not playing quake. you suck.

>>176005247
>>176005467
it's a shitty compromise I guess
old school quakers want the 100 dmg rails and new players don't want to get spawn killed by people who know what they are doing so they just have both...
>>176005549
q2pro effect

>>176005636
i have q2pro and it's not there
is it a setting?

>>176005604
how is it a moba, does it have towers creeps and a throne?

how is it cod does it have killstreaks and knives?

you are just mad because bad. and old. ql is dead for a reason, changes like abilities and zoom dmg will revive the genre

>start game
>two people on my team quit 30 seconds in
>game doesn't want to give us any more teammates for 5 minutes
>quit
epic game

>>176005706
you suck

>>176005691
nevermind found it in the options

>>176005691
entity cel shading under effects setup

>>176005727
>epic game
*bethesda game
epic is more competent than that

>>176005604
you'd rather cry and bitch about something you can't change then support your dying breed (by playing ql)
go ahead you are just a mild annoyance

>>176005843
i'm not gonna enable mobacod shitters you cancerous pos

>>176005636
>>176005467
this is the explanation of why it will likely remain this way, despite the complaints week after week.
The devs said they recognize that people have different ways of playing games, and so to cater to the slow n' steady sniper players, they added zoom damage.
There will be players who grab the rail, sit still, and hit 100 damage rails instagibbing the lighter champions.

The issue is that skilled players will just quickly tap RMB and get an extra 20 damage that they wouldn't otherwise have had.

wait, the railgun does more damage when zoomed in? that's a neat little easteregg

>>176005957
babbys first cowadoody game

>>176005885
enable? what kind of power do you think your tears have?

>>176006008
there's a reason cod sold billions while quake struggles to get a thousand concurrent players at peak times. one game is fun, the other one is only played for 'prestige'

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>>176005783
reminds me of borderlands in a way

>>175983994
To be fair reflex looked somewhat promising at first but drama killed it.

>>176006127
Or maybe people just have different tastes.

>>176006221
the majority is never wrong

>>176006056
i have the power to shit on retards like you every single day for the rest of my life. enjoy my "tears" you retarded shit eating faggot.

>>176006127
are you actually attempting to argue that sales determine if a game is good?

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>>176006207
what kind of drama?

>obvious shitposts
>still get replies
fuck off to /v/, all of you

>>176006285
good != fun
learn to read

qc is fun
cod is fun
ql is dead

>>176006127
Cod is easy as fuck and anyone can jump in and contribute with minimal exposure to FPS , Arena shooters require perseverance to not be InstaRekt and significant learning curve to extract FUN from a more taxing gameplay, its just not to everyone tastes certainly these days where games are no longer barebones shoot or die.

>>176006505
quake live is dead because idsoftware is retarded

>fun
epic bait. hang yourself from a palm tree retard.

>>176006518
where did all the veteran players go?

>>176006056
he has the power of the playerbase of a ded gaem

>>176006285
uh okay lol
im gonna think about it while enjoying some qc
maybe

>>176006652
where did all the veteran players go?

most Quakers/UTbros will be at minimum 30 years old now, if not older.

>>176006615
did you get stuck in 2005 /b/? you are so edgy its part entertaining part embarrassing

>>176006956
you're dumb

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>>176006615

>>176007062
t. mobacasual

>>176005247
>so RG and HMG should *only* do 80 and 9 damage each with no zoom?
Yes. Obviously. Game has been balanced around that for years now. Making the RG do an extra 25% because you're not moving is a very strange mechanic which discourages you moving fast in the game.
>>176005636
>old school quakers want the 100 dmg rails
What? Why would you assume this? I thought the balanced was fine RG was one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game but its reach and ease of use was great. The low DPS and charge up time encourages a very different playstyle to other weapons and makes it not a good choice in straight up combat.
I don't know the stats but in this game RG seems to charge faster and with zoom it does more damage. This kills the balance of the weapons.

Boosting the DPS on the RG is fine as long as you adjust other weapons. As is it's just an easy and effective method to deal damage beyond short range. It shouldn't be effective.

>>176006297
Essentially the devs were in over their heads and often would push incomplete features, and tried to pawn off work on the community. Also they were entirely unable to take any criticism often getting in fights with players over valid critique of poor choices/feature implementation. Also internal strife between the only one who was involved in CPMA who had all the ideas and the artist and coder ended in his departure. Honestly we should have known better than to trust Australians.

>>176006806
cooller plays overwatch
many have moved on and will be open to qc
most people I know who played games back then still do but in a circle if friends, mostly games like wow or Diablo 3

some are in this thread and try to tell people to get off their lawn
funny though that they only perceive themselves as guardians of the lawn they don't own

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i really hope they'll add some rare/expensive extravagant cosmetics and taunts

d44m did it right

>>176007369
Despite all this (which I haven't heard about until now) it's a very good game.

>>176007432
DAB WHEN
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>>176007357
Clutch and such don't move as fast as Anarki and Nyx. You really think Clutch stands a chance with 80 damage rails? I feel like the scoped=more damage is balanced in the context of QC, which is obviously not QL

>>176007369
I don't think it's as nasty as you seem to think
maybe your just bitter about something

>>176007431
>cooller plays overwatch
>for Seqta
literal no name team. i thought overwatch was piss easy, how come one of the best quake players in the world struggles so hard? he's not even top500

>>176007432
opening screen and victory screen emotes really need to happen,especially since id/sabre has a good animator

>>176007578
Well it's a poor solution to have it be zooming if the goal is to balance the slow with the fast. They should have the RG decrease damage with movement speed then. I think linearly would be fine with some kind of cap. Having a toggle doesn't solve it well. People will learn to zoom in, shoot and continue moving.

But I still don't enjoy the idea that you should slow Quake down. Why should there even be incredibly slow characters in the game?

>>176007665
Because Cooller is a dueler and overwatch is a team based game with abilities.
Conventional skill doesn't factor into it as much. It's the same in Dota or CS. There's very good players in pubs but they're not part of a team and perhaps they're not even good at team play. But they're not lacking in individual skill.

I think Quake had less of this, even in TDM or CTF. There's some coordination but it's not as extreme as those games and the situations in the game are easier to read than say Dota.

>>176007781
>Why should there even be incredibly slow characters in the game?
so people with a different playstyle enjoy the game as well. what's wrong with that? if you think going fast is the key to victory, pick a fast toon. that's the beauty of class based shooters, everyone gets to have fun without adapting, i.e. switching to a playstyle they don't like.

>>176007665
overwatch isn't quake, in quake mechanical skill and map control were the most important things
in overwatch team strategies, timing, coordination and ult management are important, which is why tf2 pros (seagull, harbleu) are often the best ow players
don't worry though mechanical skills still can get you pretty far if you look at the best hitscan dps players (like iddqd, aimbotcalvin, kephrii or dafran) - they mostly have a csgo background though

>>175994578
damn those graphics are cozy.
just had a flash back to play station one and old pc games....

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>>176007943
>so people with a different playstyle enjoy the game as well.

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personally i'm hoping for a champion that can built a turret of some kind. that would be fucking amazeballs

>>176007943
>so people with a different playstyle enjoy the game as well.
What if Quake added a pure strategic mode where you have an auto-aim gun? It's a different playstyle. It's just at odds with a larger set of players than slow vs fast characters. You may think the slow characters are OK for what they get but trying to balance them into this game is not feasible.

Now I don't think slow characters will ever be good simply because not even this neo-ID would buff them up as much as they would need to be competitive.
I'm more worried about the effect that these characters have on the situations where they're not involved, if changes like the RG & HMG change was motivated by slow characters.

>>176007924
>not dropping your RL and ammo so your teammate can rack up kills with quad
can't do that in OW

>>176007943
not playing as them doesn't change the fact they fuck over the game

>>176008219
I haven't found the button to do that in QC yet (doesn't appear in the keybind menu).
Can we?
>can't do that in OW
Yeah, but in perspective that's not an amazing teamplay feature. It's cool and all and it's core to Quake TDM but compared to the way people cooperate in these more team focused games it's not that much.
Quake does have a different focus.

who is the best quake streamer on twitch?
who is literally /our guy/

>>176008349
nah you can't in QC

>>176008586
>our guy
Draqu

>>176008586
cooller is officially our dude

>>176008680
>literally a sellout OW player
He probably won't even come back dude. He's always in it for the money and nothing else, even back when he was playing Quake.

>>176008663
The cummies guy?

>>176008924
I guess? I think I missed that.

>>176008586
carnage is decent
think he is fed up with ow

>>176006189
check out the borderlands 3 unreal engine 4 demo they're doing things now

>>176009052
I really dislike how thick the outlines are for borderlands. I also hate the gameplay but that's unrelated.

>QC is suddenly a lizard simulator

What happened?

>>176009635
people got tastey

>>176009635
>>176009898
where is the fucking PORN

>>176009929
I have idea for Sorlag lewd but thats after nyx, also it wont be vore

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>>176010010
makes sense, vores haven't been around in twenty years

are they going to add a grappling hook hero? or would that be too much of a widowmaker rip-off?

>csgo babby enters Quake Champions
>'wow visor has wall hack I'm so totally gonna win with this'
>activates the wh thing
>exposes his own location because of the sound
>gets raped

Cool original champion idea:

jk add fucking CTF mode.

>>176010167
nice reddit space

>>176010167
CTF mode is legitimately one of my favorite modes in FPSes.
It would also be cool if we got Bombing Run.

>>176010229
Nice

Post

Friend

10/10

>>176010257
It's called 1 flag in Quake.

>>176010293
Not an argument.

>lower graphics settings
>framerate improves but now I get constant networking desync instead
>game can't even let me go through a doorway without fucking up and teleporting me back 10 meters

>>176010391
Good

Joke

My dude

>>176010071
Good, fuck the vores. They were the absolute worst.

>>176010446
Vores ain't shit compared to Spawns. You can corner peek Vores just fine and their homing balls, while extremely accurate, can be led into corners- or sometimes even into terrain right next to the Vore itself so it slowly kills itself.

Spawns are just fucking explodey assholes with way too much health for what they are.

>Want to play Quake Champions
>Have to close nearly everything to get it to run
Why do you have to make me choose?
Would turning down the resolution scaling help with memory?

>>176010441
Game tries to send one packet per frame. You upped frame rate, now your router dies.

>>176010601
like wow like its just a beta like wow like quit being so entitled like omg its just a beta like even though they had this problem since beta 1 and it hasn't gotten fixed its just a beta like wow do you even know what betas are for like omg

>>176010167
Champions would actually make sense if they weren't arbitrary eg they had a role in CTF like Sorlag on flag, Nyx capper, Anarki chaser, etc. That's an area where threewave ctf could actually improve on the original formula.

>>176010693
Anon please, I know you're false flagging/joking, but I genuinely want to keep playing. I'm having fun with it, I just want to know if there's any ways to not have to close everything just to play it.

>>176010828
I fixed it by going windowed mode at a lower resolution. I mean I have to do that anyways cause a corner of my screen is busted but still, it fixed it. And there was some anon a thread or two ago literally defending it cause "it's a beta" even though it's been a problem since the beginning and they have not even mentioned it as far as I know.

>>176010893
I already have it at 1600x900 when I'm playing. How low did you have it?

>>176010942
800x600

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>>176010942
About the same as you have right now. Here are my specs too. And I also have everything on low.

>>176010496
I remember 1 place in particular where I decided that I hate the vores. Couldn't tell which map or mission pack it was but there was open area with 2 of them, bridge in the middle. Maybe I was just a noob back then but damn did those assholes piss me off.

>>175999927
They want everyone stressing the servers and filling up matchmaking

>>176010693
>it's another nvidiafriends try to run a game without their game ready driver while getting cucked on raw compute power episode

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>>176011020
Here's mine.
Need to upgrade soon, but I'm planning on getting other shit first.

>>176010676
>spent so many years with too shitty of a computer to play games
>now I have a good computer and it's TOO FAST TO PLAY GAMES
I did it. I've regressed to the era of DOS and turbo buttons.

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>>176002809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGg5EM7bLpo
This is already not confirmed to be Mick Gordon, but starting at 0:24 it's already a good fit for a Quake theme. I just hope they use it in the final game.

>>176011215
>defending shitty drivers

What are the actual odds of getting the armor shader you want? This is some 10000 in 1 shit with all the duplicate nameplates and other similar garbage that always drops.

>>176011342
>when game automatically weapon swaps and it all works out

>>176011440
Hell yeah, I even fired off a second rocket to make sure he was deader than dead

>>176011386
Maybe you'll be able to buy the stuff you want later.

>>176011501
somtimes the game forces me to finish people off with rail and it's even easier because i was using lightninggun and im keeping my cursor on em so it just magically works out

>>176011585
It makes sense if the weapon swap is fast enough. It's very common thing to do in turbo ca for example.

>>176011585
I can't combo weapons ever but there had been instances where railgun pops out automatically and that shit felt good when it had no right being so

I hope the final game has QL level of gameplay options

Sup guys,

I installed the beta yestrday, and everytging is good. I played with my xbone controller plugged, instead of my mouse/kb and it was working well, I had a high score. Now, does anyone know how to enable an auto-aim or assisted aim, because I couldn't find it in the settings (probably because it's in beta). Is there a workaround to enable it with the console or I'll have to edit some game files?

Thx in advance.

>>176011338
if VSYNC is made to work right it should work to cap your FPS to your refresh rate without creating input lag

however SHOVE ALL THIS INTO THE FEEDBACK
try the closed forums although it's mostly a shithole

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>>176010676
Alright, I driver-limited the framerate to 80 and now I don't desync but absolutely everybody else that hasn't is teleporting to the point where they're impossible to track.

>>176011338
>>176011909
Not him but back in week 1 the menus were frying GPUs left and right and vsync 100% did not work. Had to cap fps by using drivers.

>>176011909
I manually capped my framerate at 60 through the Nvidia control panel. Apparently that's still too fast, and my connection is from roughly 2007 and is good enough to play every single fucking multiplayer game in existence EXCEPT FOR FUCKING QUAKE CHAMPIONS BECAUSE IT EATS MY FUCKING BANDWIDTH LIKE SORLAG IN A DELI. WHY THE FUCK DOES IT NEED HUNDREDS OF KB OF UPLOAD SPEED? THAT IS RIDICULOUS. GO FUCK YOURSELF, BETHESDA. IT ISN'T MY FAULT I LIVE IN THE THIRD FUCKING WORLD AND HAVE LITERALLY NO OTHER INTERNET PROVIDERS AVAILABLE.

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Do you guys ever open global chat?

>>176012067
Also
>however SHOVE ALL THIS INTO THE FEEDBACK
>try the closed forums although it's mostly a shithole
There is a thread there regarding the 255-ping-disconnect bug with 148 posts and over two THOUSAND views, not a single mod or dev comment in sight.

have done anything about the performance yet? it has been in closed for a month now

>>176012006
>>176012013
>>176012067
these are all serious issues and complaints that should be mailed to id Software in form of a bomb

>>176012430
I put every one of my complaints in the beta survey feedback, I hope they read those very carefully instead of letting some PR fuck filter them.

>>176011775
I'm looking for this too.

Can anyone help?

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>>176012115
>twitchmemes spelt wrong

>>176011020
>>176011229
There's nothing you can do since the game pulls over 10gb of RAM even on startup and you only have 8.

>>176012067
If it makes you feel better playing against people like you is just as miserable.

>>176012393
Performance of the game itself is fine, low for the relatively poor visuals, but unless you're on a memory loss toaster like the 8gb bros above it should be fine.

Whats the best item build for Quake Champions?

Focus on mana regeneration, or focus on dps items?

>>176013062
>If it makes you feel better playing against people like you is just as miserable.
You don't get to play against me because I get auto-kicked within thirty seconds or so of a match starting.

I was just able to play a full round for the first time by limiting my framerate to fucking 30. It was awful, unplayable, and I still had lagspikes where everything shat the bed sideways. Other than that it seems like a pretty fun game IF I COULD PLAY IT.

>>176013062
Actually, lowering the actual resolution and the resolution scale helped.

>>176013186
visor with rail

but now thinking about it, visor with grenades is going to be broken since you know exactly which doorway to spam

>>176013062
>8gb is toaster tier
nice meme my dude. I guess SSDs should be mandatory too for loading the menu in less than 5 minutes? I could understand some open world good looking game requiring 16gb but it's a shooter with three maps, no excuse.

>>176013241
It seems every game has at least one lagboi blipping all over like it was 1998 and we were playing ipx emu over hamachi with dial up.

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>>176013062
Not him but I had the same issues during beta 1. Here's how I fixed the problems.

>install 381.65 QC beta drivers
>put everything on lowest (AA on ultra)
>play windowed (which I intended)
>limit fps to refresh rate with Nvidia Inspector
>driver 16xAF if needed

Memory leak will get to you in about 10+ matches so just restart the game. It boots fairly quickly and no lag ingame. 2500k 4.6Ghz, 1060 3GB, 8GB ram.

>>176013368
planetside 2 released in 2012 and was essentially SSD requirement and barely survived on 8gb

it's 2017. 5 years in computer tech.

MANDATORY

>>176013368
>8gb isn't toaster tier
Sorry about your forgetful pc, but 8gb barely runs chrome.

It's especially odd because your pcs are old enough to have gotten 16gb of ddr3 back when it was 32 dollars for matched sets.

The load times for this game are dogshit and they don't even spread load calls over multiple cores.

There are a lot of goof design decisions going on.

>>176013609
planetside 2 had huge maps and shit optimization, as evidenced by the fact that larger games exist with better loading times and ram usage
>>176013658
>but 8gb barely runs chrome
lmao what? 8gb is more than enough to run any aaa game with all my shit in the background but qc just eats it for no reason

all of these player limits make the game feel so slow. it's a lot more boring now

How do i strafejump properly with visor? I can't gain more speed with him than other characters, am I just bad?

>>176013658
>fell for 16gb meme
I have 8gb and I've ran out of memory only when working on huge projects, not while playing video games or browsing the internet.

Other than the missing Grenade Launcher, what new weapons would you like to see in Quake Champions?
Can be a Starter Weapon or a Regular Weapon.

>>176014596
Redeemer ofc.

>>176014596
I don't think there's any interesting new weapons that fit in this game.

How to defeat Klesk on Nightmare? That motherfucker keeps direct hitting me with rail and even if I wont let him take it and 100hp/100ar, he instawipes me with plasma

>>176014596
Hyperblaster skin for nailgun when

>>176014596
i really prefer the plasma gun to the nailgun, but we cant have both
if nailgun gets a plasma gun skin it might be enough to fool me though

>>176007642
>what we were promised
CPMA2 with a built in map editor and modern quality of life features

>what we got
A game where stalememeskins are given dev priority over just making a good competitive game with features that come out pretty much finished and just need bugtesting. Oh and all the maps are ass too.

>>176014145
>Fell for
>Can't even load up a game in 2017
Sounds like you're telling fibs.

>Currently running processes not including system or drivers
>Chrome
>Nier
>Steam client
>Total commit [wired] 8,985MB

8GB is totally enough. Just hit that hard swap file baby. That's where the real performance is.

8GB was the new 640kb in 2011.

>when sorlag blinks, her eyes are animated with a third horizontal eyelid like an actual reptile
neat.jpg

>>176015121
I can run web browser, steam and any video game at the same time and the load times are reasonable. 8gb, no problem. If you want the 16gb although you don't need it, then sure, go for it. I can't stop you from falling for the advertises.

>>176015121
Also:
>chrome
This only proves further your incapability to think for yourself.

>>176015505
>Also:
>>chrome
>This only proves further your incapability to think for yourself.
This only proves further your incapability to think for yourself.

>>176015546
You do understand that you're serving your personal information on a silver plate to strangers? Once you hand it out you will never get it back.

>>176014716
I cheesed it and avoided all long range engagements and forced him to come to me. I always had plasma or shotgun ready for him.
Same tactic I used for Xaero except on steroids

Just lol at people complaining about the game performance on their rigs, and completely forgetting the most important problem...

THAT QUAKE CHAMPIONS FEELS LIKE A MIX OF OVERWATCH, BRINK AND LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

They should change the name of the game at the very least, because the game has literally nothing to do with Quake except the name similarities.

>>176015995
What similarities are you talking about? The two things I see - it has abilities and it's multiplayer

>>176015995
They planned classes for Quake 3 but they ended up using the runes instead. Would you like to tell us more about your autism?

wtf is wrong with the pickups in qc? why are the hp/cd values random? why is there no yellow? why are mega and red in such shit spots? has anyone on the dev team played a quake game before? food for thought

>>176016112
>>176016128
Stay mad.

Have fun with Halo, Cod and Quake Champions...

And enjoy your cosmetic items and skin boxes.

Casual cunts.

>>176016213
You know what beta is for? For testing things. How weapons, champions, pickups, maps work out. And those are subjects to change

>>176013426
that webm made me giggle good job, anon

>>176016275
>Casual cunts
This kind of aggression indicates that you're the one who is getting mad. What kind of games do you play?

tfw TDM gets boring after a few matches
actually the thing that gets boring is waiting for a new match to start

>>176016485
Agreed. They really should speed things up.

>>176016275
>And enjoy your cosmetic items and skin boxes.
I will. Hope I'm getting the Q2 railgun soon.

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>>176016364
5 betas later nothing of value has been changed. Why would they make minor balance changes while "testing" changes to core mechanics? Just because it's a beta doesn't make it any less autistic. Not like they have have a perfectly functional pickup system readily available afterall

>>176013609
planetside 2 is the most shit game ever so it makes sense that it cant be run on any hardware

>id knocks it out of the park with Doom 2016 and idtech6 and looks to be having a revival
>somehow ends up with the engine with the shittiest performance and FPS netcode ever made for their online-only fast-paced Deathmatch shooter

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>>176016571
>5 beta weekends is enough for big changes

>>176016452
Nowadays?

Starcraft II
The new Unreal
And military simulation games

CSGO is too casual compared to cs 1.5/1.6
Dota 2 is too casual compared to DotA

The comptetitive genre is dead, because pussies like you pay more attention to the microtransaction items than the actual game. You were born with shitty genetics and slow motor skills, so you can't get good at hard games requiring a lot of skill and practice.

The companies just go where the money is... and currently, the money is in the microtransactions of casual games made for the masses and Mobas.

Deal with it.

I hope a time machine sees the day soon, so you can travel back and experience what a competitive game actually is.

>>176016889
It's Sabre custom engine with some work from Id. And our game developers always had problems with game engines, especially for shooters. They started doing quack champignones before Idtech 6 got finished.

>>176016924
Are you projector irl? I play the original Quakes and sometimes csgo. In csgo I've never spent a cent on skines and I would probably rape you in Quake.

>>176016924
>bab listing games he thinks are hardcore like it's not obvious as fuck he's some sort of casual souls tier shitter

>>176016897
>5 betas isn't enough to fix a single important gameplay bug
>reinventing the wheel is okay because it's the beta
>they will completely fix the core game in the next couple months before release
c u in 6 months when the game is still shit

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>>176016924
>Starcraft II
>impying rts games are not chess-retarded shit with combinatorics instead of tactics
>military simulation games
>implying low ttk games with they only two tactics being camping and flanking have anything in common with skill
>dota 2 is more casual than DotA
>literally the only change from dota is deleting wc3 game engine fuck ups
>somehow it make game more casual
What makes you shitpost in this thread for two consecutive days at least?

>>176017174
Is QC your first beta?

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>Blizzard abandoning Diablo for a TF2 mod
>Bethesda making s multiplayer FPS
>"But anon, why don't you like esports?" they asked. "You love video games, shouldn't you love esports?" they asked.

>>176017458
Betas are publicity stunts now, not actual stages in development. They already have the polished turd they want us to eat and when the game goes live, they'll have all the testing data they could ever want.

Then we all give them a standing ovation when the applause sign says to because they're so dedicated to providing us with "continuous updates" that used to be "fixing your goddamn game before making people pay for it."

>>176017395
Did you even read the patch notes of the last few years?

Huge gold bounty if you kill a player that is doing well (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Nerf skill based heroes like Invoker (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add two runes and bounties, because it's too hard for noobs to keep focus on the river (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add a timer for the stun duration so you don't have to learn spells by heart (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add a visual with the exact numbers of the damage you're taking, so you don't have to learn how much damage each attack/spell does to you (patch for new players and noobs like you)

Add shrines, so you can regen health and avoid learning to bottle-crow (patch for new players and noobs like you)

And so on...

Yet, there was a huge problem about foreigners queuing on western servers, since DAY 1 of the beta.... and it got fixed... in 2017!

We can see where Valve puts its priorities:

Making the game casual and attracting as many players as possible, to sell more stuff. Easy model, and they're not even hiding it.

The real Dota is dead long ago.

You've missed the real deal. Sorry.

>>176016924
You are stuck in the past. Unable to adapt. You won't enjoy any modern video game. Fuck off if you know what's good for you.

>>>/vr/

>>176017956
>hurr durr it was good before and now it's shit I SAID IT
Take your medecine and go to bed, grandpa

>>176017458
beta isn't an excuse for a broken game and shitty core mechanics. It is an excuse for missing assets, minor bugs or a lack of polish but it's very clear qc has much more severe issues than that.
There is a reason why saber's history is games that range from garbage to mediocre. They managed to fuck up halo online and master chief edition both of which are literally just ports of older games.
bethesda just outsourced the game to the shittiest, cheapest developers they could find that could still make a somewhat functional game

>>176016924
>You were born with shitty genetics and slow motor skills, so you can't get good at hard games requiring a lot of skill and practice.

Sounds like you're a fat piece of shit who will get schooled by children in Nintendo's augmented reality hit, Splatooniverse.

Being able to control a mouse with its sensitivity maxed is not the future of competitive video gaming.

>>176017048
Sure, sure.

Watching a video on Youtube doesn't give you the right to say you've played it, by the way.

And lol at playing CSGO...

I think it's even worst than COD. You can now insta kill someone wih the auto shotgun at Long A, against someone with an AWP.

Casuals gonna casual.

Just stop arguing with me if you're born after 2005.

>>176018026
They didn't come to YouTube and Twitch personalities and cut deals for endorsements by having them make recommendations the devs gave to them, then gushing in their videos about how they used their suggestion to improve their game.

Let's see how many suggestions they take from Anonymous. Who's in the beta?

>>176018032
>broken game and shitty core mechanics
Define "broken game and shitty core mechanics". Problems I experience are bad netcode and some balance issues like strange pickup placement and rl delay.
>They managed to fuck up halo online
From what've I heard it was our publisher Innova who fucked it all up. But yeah, the only good thing Saber did was Will Rock and that was in 2003.

>>176017993
>>176018026

Casual kids... why don't you just accept the facts.

Do you even fucking understand how the industry works today? I bet you don't, because you wouldn't be here trying to argue with me.

Developers LITERALLY dumb down games to attract the casual masses (like you, and the others in this thread) so they can sell them DLCs, crates, skins, weapons, etc.

You're so dumb and naive that I'm not even sure if you're trolling or not.

Stay a sheep, spend your cash on microtransactions, stay a noob.

But at least, accept the facts.

You're not playing Quake... you're just playing a casual game using a famous name to attract more people.

Hey guys, is there a way to unlock a red dot sight to put on my rifle in Quake Champions?

Also, how can put blue camo on the shotgun, and at what level do I unlock it?

Thx.

>>176018531
All you do is calling everyone dumb casuals and talking shit like you know everything while not even remotely making any arguments in your defense. Why would anyone even want to talk with you and not just call you delusional schizo? Because you are one

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>>176018531
we need nickname for this autists

>>176018370
the netcode is horrible, even in matches where everyone has <20 ping rockets and rails go thrugh people. You get rubberbanded just by running around the map at times. The delay on the rl makes it unusable, made worse by the fact that it's not even consistent. The pickups are awful, not just the placement but how they work mechanically. Some of the heroes are horribly designed, revolving around a "fuck you" button you use when in any danger. The load times and optimization are both bad, with 3+ minute menu load times on an SSD and sub 60fps framerate on some high end pcs
There are lots of minor bugs, issues and missing features which I can sort of forgive since it's a beta but on top of the bigger issues it just feels like there is not a single competent person working on the game

>t was our publisher Innova who fucked it all up
sure, they probably weren't the reason it was cancelled but even when it was out it was extremely buggy with a lot of the same issues qc has now

>>176019180
Maybe because I have played games when they were actually good, and not made to milk people out of their cash overtime?

And maybe because I worked as a marketing consultant for various big studios in the industry?

Why am I even arguing with dumb kids like you... You should be thanking me for opening your eyes and telling you how you're being manipulated.

But hey, you only can help yourself. And it's definitely not easy when you have a low iq. My support goes to your parents... It's not easy to have a mentally ill kid, and it takes a lot of effort.

>>176019285
I never understood why people type like this.

Why does there need to be a double-space between every sentence?

How do these people read if they get lost in text so easily?

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>>176019805
>and maybe because I worked as a marketing consultant for various big studios in the industry?
my dad works for id too man

>>176019823
>How do these people read if they get lost in text so easily?
The probably don't read anything but memes

>>176019805
I really enjoyed playing Q3A during its time before moving on, and now I'm really enjoying bitter elitist faggots like you suffer. You had your chance. Bleed out.

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1070
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zero issues, very very smooth

>>176020550
Enjoyed Q3A...


More like: enjoyed watching Youtube videos of Q3A so I can give more credibility to my arguments online and try to defend the fact that I'm enjoying a casual game.

Honesty is a virtue.

>>176020857
should i take a picture of the box sitting on my shelf? not everyone has become a bitter faggot

>>176020857
>projecting

>tfw halo 5 is the last """""arena"""" game that will have a decent population
I miss ffa on deck16

>>176018205
>this rant comes from babby born in 2000
Whatever rocks your autism, boy.

>>175988775
>still haven't gotten flecktarn for ranger

I want 2 die

>>176006189
black outline around everything isnt cel shading retard

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>guy with 0.1 hours in QL shows up, gets pushed into a corner by 4 shafts and then leaves
>more shitposting starts on /arena/

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STOP RESPONDING TO THE REDDISTPACE FEDORA RETARD

>>176017670
>Blizzard abandoning Diablo

blizzard murdered diablo long before ovenwatch