Wargames General /wgg/

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1st for Steel Division is bad

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>discord link was updated
Thanks OP.

>>175965575
>Making the new thread early.
kys

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First for triggering wehraboos

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LOL

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>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mods-new-patch-79117.1019383/
>mod tools now support importing meshes

neat

>>175965575

Ok OP, 2-3 threads ago, we discovered that to change the language back to english in GTMS you need to either use Notepad++ or Hex editor, doing so in normal notepad will not work, and make the game not launch.

The OP then (don't know if it was you) said he would update the pastebin by the next thread at furthest. he didn't.

I made an updated pastebin last thread, and you aren't incorporating it.

So please; either update the pastebin to include the new details yourself, alternatively add the new details to the description, or use this pastebin instead (uses same download links): https://pastebin.com/zje8tc0D

>>175967496
*GTMF

>>175967496
Nice keylogger faggot

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>>175967496
Completely different OP--didn't see the pastebin. Sorry about that.

>>175967767
Np, just please make sure the next thread is updated

>>175967767
Thanks for fixing the thread anon.
You're doing gods work.

Panssarijaakari in BMP-1 or BMP-2? If BMP-2, would it make sense to upgrade to '90s?

>>175969235
Don't bother with BMPs. They get shat on by tanks and other IFVs, just put them in a cheap transport.

>>175969832
aren't IFVs important? Almost all my inf tab is in 5pt BTRs.

>>175969965
Yeah, but not those ones since they're the worst IFV line aside from the nork ones.

>>175970016
not those ones? What else can I take.

In the same vein, should I bring T-55A or Charioteers?

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lol

>>175970752
DELETE THIS NOW

>>175970752
>Krauts in charge of not brewing up

>>175970752
somebody show this to Robz

>>175970195
Don't listen to that guy, 10pt bmp-1 is great. BMP-2 is questionable but works for inner forests.

Personally I wouldn't bring any of those two tanks. Charioteers lack an MG so their suppression in forests is shit. T-55A has decent suppression but is a bit too expensive to spam in forests and a bit too shitty outside them. But if you wanna try for yourself, start with t-55a.

>>175970752
"Brew up"? How to understand this jargon? Non native speaker here, does it supposed to mean the tank burned down?

>>175970752

>Burger """identified""" """Tigers""""

>>175972476
It's antiquated so don't feel too bad for not understanding. It means the tank went up in flames and likely exploded.

>>175972642
British you dingus.

te34sting out robz mod SS faction

>militia unit costs as much as every other factions militia except has grenades, a panzerfaust, and some weapon skill
>their grenadier squad which costs the same as normal infantry for everybody else have multiple automatic weapons, 2 panzerfausts, an STG44, and semi auto rifles IN ADDITION TO BEING 5 WEAPON SKILL
Robz actually claims he isnt biased towards Germany

Is the 21st a joke? They have more leader cards than infantry in phase A

>>175973878
>all of their tank crews for every single vehicle are elite crews but still cost the same
>even support crews for machjine guns and AT guns are elite

>>175972642
They clealry can distinguish Gemran tanks, Mark IV, Panther and Tiger were all mentioned in this report.

But stay mad my Nazi friend :^)

>>175973878
>>175974219
Also just checked no arty/no mortar mode

He remembered to remove arty mortars from all of the allies when you have it set to no arty.

However, he """""""""""""""'forgot"""""""""""""""""" to remove Sturmtiger, Brummbar, and Infantry guns from Germany. Also conviently left this in for his new "balanced" SS faction

>>175973991
that's just so you have the option to take them in half-tracks

you don't have to take them, m8. I just go with 3x3 panzergrenadier for A, with leaders coming from support/tanks.

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the kinds of players that you find in 10vs10

>>175974706
>>175974219
>>175973878
wew also realized that allied Self propelled arty has shorter range than German tanks now, so if you want to hit some giant kraut meme machine you have to get well within its firing range

>>175972775
Thanks.

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Wargame 4 can't come soon enough

because I keep seeing people do this: don't attack-move flamethrower infantry that have rifles

either turn the rifles off first, or just tell them to move; they can use SMGs and flamethrowers while moving. otherwise, they'll stop and fire once they reach rifle range, which will do literally nothing and get them killed.

>>175977258
steel division is wargame 4
it literally says so in the game files

>>175977395

Well, Cold War themed one. Call it Steel Division '90 or something.

I just can't get into WW2.

>>175978073
>muh helispam
>muh atgm
>muh t80u
Fuck off you scum

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>>175978419

I play Yugo mostly desu senpai, you can't do any of those 3 there.

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>>175978073
>Cold War
>'90
>Not '84 or '79 etc

>>175978073
>'90
any wargame after '85 is just "NATO rapes everything without competition" and really isn't cold war. Fuck off.

>only faction that doesnt get small ammo boxes in their ammo trucks in robz is Japan
WHY
THEY ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY FACTION I NEED THEM FOR, MUH TYPE 89 MORTAR

>>175979034

A '64 Wargame would be pretty baws too.

Other than that, next time where there's Redfor: Blufor "parity" is in the '82-'90.

'70s would have been very one-sided with T-64 and T-72 facing off against Leo 1a4, Chieftain and M60A3 at best.

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>>175978930
>thinking Yugoslavia will appear in any game ever again

>>175978419
Having actual recon/stealth mechanics and a tank hierarchy is nice too.
The reason everyone bitches about earlygame importance in SD is that the combat triangle is one-dimensional, once you fall behind in points you can't sidestep the enemy's advantage by investing in something completely different, because all the damn game has is tank and antitank.

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>>175979803
ikr, blufor player suicides peaked when Reds DLC came out.

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Guards Armoured soon lads! Hold in there!

>>175980017
this. It just feels flat thus far.

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>>175980382
>tfw you have to wait till release for decent armored divisions

>>175980632
>he thinks there will be decent armored divisions in the release
If you don't want to play French or Nazis, you should just go play Combat Mission.

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>>175980723
better delet this m8

>>175980723
I already am

How powerful are IEDs in squad

>>175982206
Just powerful enough to derail a thread due to autism

>>175982206
About 4x the power of the RPG Frag and will nuke cars or BTRs

>>175982740
>>175982515
can you make VBIEDS

>>175977258
Needs to be 70s and before

>>175982206
Wrong general faggot.

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>>175980723
what did he mean by this?

>>175985443
Squad is a tactical wargame, fuck off

>>175985791
>pretending like you're not just here to shitpost

>>175985791
I don't care what it is, it's not part of /wgg/ period.

>>175985791
>fps
>wargame
No, it isn't. Go back to your own general, nigger.

>>175985583
Lindybeige is retarded when it comes to anything other niche parts of ancient history. Posting his face here is a direct insult

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>>175985443
>Lets purity test ourselves guys
>It worked out really great last time guys

Literally what killed this general.

>>175985791
We don't want your literal autismo namefag anons that derail your shit threads, we don't want your shit game on our general, and most importantly we don't want you here.

So are you guys excited for Battlefront 2?

>>175986234
Literally does not matter. Squad has its own general. This is not it. It doesn't belong here. This is a general for wargames. Squad is not a wargame. It doesn't belong here.

>>175985791
this is a general for macro-management strategy games, not your shitty fps

>>175985791
No it's not, nothing is tactical about it>>175985886

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>>175976289
Folks wouldn't do it if it didn't work.

I'm not very good, and I'm willing to admit it. Supporting other players' pushes through towns and shoring up flanks with infantry and AT gives me a reason to live.

>>175986559
>Folks wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
lolno

>>175986603
Retarded players like me will always exist. The way I see it, it's better to have them spend their points on noob tubes and bombers than have them hold a section of frontline only to fail horribly and give kills and territory to the enemy.

My favorite part of 44' so far has been flying bombers in circles above masses of enemy infantry with no AA and watch them slowly try to scuttle away futilely before I bomb them to smithereens.

>>175966167
>paying $40 for DLC

>>175987435
Such is life when it comes to niche games like that.

>>175986480
>Men of War
>Combat Mission
>Call to Arms
>Armored Brigade
>Close Combat
>Steel Panthers
>Wargame
>Steel Division
>>>>>>>>Macro-management strategy games

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>>175987931
>he's still at it
Depressing.

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>>175987931
Yup

Who /hangingupthewashingonthesiegfriedline/ here?

>>175989091
Too busy /havingarodeointokyoandaroundupinoldberlin/ desu

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>>175965705

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how do I get gud at mius front?
are there some tutorials I should watch or do I just bash my head against the wall till the ghost of von Kleist appears?

>>175993231
The latter, but only because I have questions I want to ask him. While you're at it, ask him if von Rundstedt would like to make an appearance as well.

Anyone got a link to that spirit of wargame video?
The one with the chinese cartoon about the czech paratroopers?

>>175993231
I watched some dude on yt playing a campaign to get the gist of what I should be doing.

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>>175991891
It really is great.

>>175994184
I tried, but all I got was Ernest Rohm trying to sell me an itchy shirt

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>>175995257
Second one even shot down a plane.

>>175977284
>They can use SMGs and flamethrowers while moving
Damn I didn't realise that. Maybe Ranger Assault squads are actually really good then

>>175995376
Every Ranger unit is amazing
>He uses Rifles

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>>175965575
Could I make Kim proud with this deck?

>>175995845
>Ban-Tank Fagot

>>175995845
it was trash the last time you posted it and it is still trash

How do you guys generally deploy your units at the start of your game?

I only really bring an AT gun, mortar and support vehicle before spending the rest on infantry

>>175995993
>>175996217
How can I improve it?

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>>175994758
pls respond

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I kept seeing kill lists for the command Stuart. I wondered what all the fuss was about
>first game using them

wew

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>Just went through an hour long battle against 3 21. Panzer division players
>8+ Kongstigers pushing left, another 2 pushing right
>we manage to fend them off and kill all but of them and end the match with a draw
No one can tell me otherwise. I have just experienced what WW2 was truly like.

*6+ Kongstigers
*all but 2 of them

>>175997487

if it was really WW2 then not a single King Tiger would have been dented

>>175998440
Because not a single King Tiger would've made it to the frontline

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>>175977258
fucking this. wwii is boring as fuck compared to cold war


>>175978419
mad as fuck nato player's are better than mad as fuck wehraboos

>>175979034
>>175979319
>>175979626

this. these.

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>>175998440
>King Tigers can't be destroyed

>>175999603
It's a shame this board wont let the audio for that play, It's 10/10.

https://files.catbox.moe/p3t3tu.webm

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What should I improve?

>>176000403
Dump the rifles in phase A and get more rangers. Seriously, for trading in a measly two(1 from each card) squads of crap rookie infantry with no armed transport, you get six squads of the best infantry in the game with vet 2(And vet 3 if you have a leader with them, which you definitely should if you're playing 2nd ID at all.

>>176000403
Do you need the bazookas? Are you actually going to use Marauders and Bazooka teams? Only thing that stuck out to me.

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>>176000403
>1 card of Ranger Assault
ALL THE RANGER ASSAULT CARDS MAGGOT
DON'T SHOOT JUST LET THEM BUUUUUUUUURN

HOOAH

>>176000615
Not him but I would definitely recommend having a card of bazookas. Marauders are more about backline infiltration and popping vehicles coming down reinforcement roads. Bazookas are a bit more throwaway and are more suitable for frontline fighting and moving with your rangers.

Having both allows you to keep your bases covered.

>>176000751
I'll keep that in mind.

>>176000607
>>176000615
>>176000727
Looks like the infantry's the issue here for my deck?

The Bazookas have been useful so I'm keeping them, my Marauders are never with my infantry while I can have cheap Bazookas pushing up with the line.

I've actually run out of infantry to call in twice in a row in the most recent games I've played. This was after I dropped the Phase C Rifles and replaced my rifles with pure Phase A rangers, after lurking in the previous thread.

>>176000403
>2 cards of wolverines
Rip you deck if you go up against 21. Panzer Divisions, which is certain to happen.

>>176000727
Do you use ranger supports at all?

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>>176000727
>When assault rangers sneak up on your building thanks to all that mortar smoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNuEngtel4I

>>176000980
Nope.

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>>176001019
>Burning fascist
Thats asia m8

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so this is the power of german engineering....

>>176001019
>don't shoot, let em burn

>its an AI shoots zis3 shells across the entire map with pinpoint accuracy

HOW DO I DO THIS
HOW DO THEY DO IT

>>176001073
Thought they were amazing

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>>176000979
>>176000727
>>176000615
>>176000607
How's this? I took Phase A rangers, 3x Phase C Wolverines and got rid of 1 M7.

Also about the M7 and T30, which ones are worth bringing and which are useless? They both seem to fulfill the same role and are food for anything anti-vehicle

>>176001168
What would you call the Japanese, if not fascist?

>>176000403
>>176001515
I really want to like M7 DDs, and I see a lot of people using them, but I think they're overpriced. I'd rather just buy an M4A1 for 10 less points, almost twice the armor and AP rounds. For those slots I like taking T30s, they do infantry support almost as well and can actually fight vehicles for 50 less points, plus 2 stars so they can win against light tanks often.

I'd also try to fit in a phase B P-47 bomber so you have some ground attack before C, but that's debatable depending on what you ditch for it.

>>176001515
Pretty solid, but I personally think you've gone a little overkill on the air superiority fighters. You could stand to remove a card of P-47's in favor of more air-to-ground support since you're taking the P-38's in phase A as well.

>>176001687
Yeah I feel like the M7 is ungodly expensive for what it does and found the Phase A Shermans to be way more useful.

>>176001708
Picked up the light bombers. What do light/heavy bombs and light/heavy rockets excel against?

>>176001934
>What do light/heavy bombs and light/heavy rockets excel against?
Soft targets, mostly AT guns and infantry. You usually won't kill armor unless it's really light and/or open-topped, but you can use them for morale damage if you really need to scare away a panther or whatever.

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>>176001620
I agree, but fascist is usually used to refer to the western Axis.

I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page.

Have a relevant image.

>>176001217
>Stand in a place with good visibility
>assign artillery to the AI
>grab platoon leader
>set area with him
>wait for a bit
>rejoice as your arty does shit
>untick Assign to the AI if you only want to aim at the area without shooting
You can counter their artillery with your own artilley if they're exposed. Pretty sure there's threads about this topic in the steam discussions/guides.

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>>176002161
Oh no I mean the difference between them. Are rockets better at killing soft skin vehicles while bombs kill ATGs and artillery better

>>176001934
By light bombers, I hope you don't mean the P-38's with rockets, but the P-38's with actual bombs.

Never get the P-38's with rockets. They're complete and total ass for anything other than suppression.

>>176001515
>too many fighters
>rgr support
>B Phase Rifles instead of Rifles leader
>no B Phase Wolverines
>no RGR Mortar 100mm
>phase A supply units
You won't be able to counter A Phase arty that's too far out to engage, you're going to have a hard time killing Panzers in B Phase, nothing's going to run out of ammo in Phase A.

2nd ID is meant to push really hard during Phase A, and then bunker down by Phase B using long range arty and Anti tank weapons along with reinforcing occupied towns and forests with multi-purpose Rifle Leaders. If you fail to push the Germans back during Phase A, you're going to have a shit time for the rest of the game.

>>176002235
Rockets have faster and (generally) more accurate delivery, while bombs typically require your plane to fly a bit deeper into enemy lines. The planes that typically carry bombs are also pretty slow about evacuating so keep in mind that air superiority, or at the very least a strong AA-net is mandatory unless you want to get your shit shot down.

>>176002235
>Are rockets better at killing soft skin vehicles while bombs kill ATGs and artillery better
I think so, yeah, but I'm pretty sure HE is still the most important thing; big bombs still do better against vehicles than light/medium rockets. P-38 bomber seems to do a better job killing vehicles than the rocket P-47, anyway.

>>176002441
It's nitpicky, but the 100mm mortar isn't a ranger mortar. It has no veterancy. I'd say they are always a solid choice, but not really mandatory. ranger mortars get their effect in quickly, and allow you to keep moving because of it. counter battery isn't the biggest concern if you're staying thirsty, IMO.

>when your bomber drops their payload on the enemy but evacs straight into the cluster of AA
I wish we could tell the AI to turn left or right when evacing. I've lost too many planes because of this shit.

>>176002585
Just because it's not a Ranger mortar doesn't mean it's shit. You don't know how many times I've had to deal with german artillery too far out to engage. Those 100m mortars are life savors.

>>176002591
There is a gameplay setting that turns off auto-evac (when primary ammo is expended). It definitely help you use your airforce better, so change that, but you will have to micro your planes more.

>>176002441
What's wrong with Ranger Support? I'll just replace them with 2x Rifles in that case

>>176002674
Oh I agree, but I'm just saying you can certainly live without them depending on skill level and play style. The ranger mortars themselves are unbelievably powerful despite their short range. They're practically rocket artillery.

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Just scrapped together a deck each for the new battlegroups, thoughts?

Pt1: 21 Panzer

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Pt2: 2e Blindee

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>>176002385
>>176002474
>>176002529
Swapped the Phase C P-47 Rockets with a second Phase C P-38 Heavy Bomber.

>>176002441
Took in your suggestions, but what's wrong with RGR Support?
Phase B Rifles for a Rifles Leader
Took 2x Phase B Wolverines and got rid of the 2x Vet Phase C Wolverines
Phase A DUKW out for Phase A 100mm mortar

I wish Syrian Warfare was multiplayer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDi07qQNZk

>>176003541
It baffles me that the slav devs thought it was a good idea to release an RTS with no multiplayer. Then again, it was their first time making anything remotely like that. Have you seen the catalog for the company's other games? It's hilarious. It's kind of surprising that Syrian warfare actually looks pretty legit. If it had multiplayer it may have taken off.

>>176003256
More Greyhounds

>>176003618
I doubt they could make a decent job balancing it for MP.

>trying to convince a wehraboo that after the first few months of Barbarossa, the Soviet got their shit together and its troops were on par with any other military at that point
This was a mistake holy shit

>>176004590
The only difference would be that one side gets VBIED's and Anti-air, and the other gets helicopters and some occasional russian troops

>match after match after match of teammates leaving--even when we're winning--, teammates playing safe away from the front line, teammates overall being shit players
Late night Steel Division. Never again.

Feels like Artillery never kills anything, its all just morale damage

>>176004646

Reminder that filthy Americans only won the war because they cheated by mass producing tanks and were willing to sacrifice 100 Shermans to take out a single Panzer II

>>176006019
Mass artillery from distance, mortars up close, or off-map artillery. Kills plenty of stuff. Off-map and mortars are the most reliable imo.

>>176006019
that's the point

hint: if your enemies' units have significant morale damage then they can't fight your units

The SK18 is incredible, will the Allies get any arty with range like that?

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Am I doing something horribly wrong

Stop playing Steel Division

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>>176007387

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Stop playing Steel Division

>>176008861
You can talk about it sure, we were discussing it a bit last thread

>>175979626
NATO get shit like TOW and A-10 however

>>175982206
No

Xylophone spammers kys

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>>176009527
>Marauders your KT

w-where is /simg?

>>176010269
Finally dead. and no, plane fucking shits cant come crawling back here

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>Honey Stuart destroys two Panthers in a smoke screen

aww yiss

>>176010269
In the hospital, hoping the chemo purges the cancer.

Are the regular Flamethrower infantry worth bringing along?

hon hon vs. Luft should be classified as a war crime. Why the fuck can their armored cars stress out aircraft so fast?

>>176010752
The french army was the best during ww2 so it makes sense to me

>>176010939
French crews were the best of the war, why wouldnt they be able to

>>176010752
Which division actually beats Frenchies?

>>176011079
the DLC french division

>>176011227
When's the DLC Soviet division?

>>176006019
what game are you playing?

if the answer isn't anything besides SD then you're objectively a shitter

>>176008580
I'd play wargame if they fixed the core issues.

>>176012061
Steel Division is the lowest common denominator of wargames

>>176011998
December, or 1 year from now.

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Anyone wanna play mowass/robz?

>>176012719
no, mowas is ded, get over it

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>luft v. luft
>slog through entire match
>neither of us can really advance
>air battles all day every day
>reach the end
>draw
Why Eugene. Give me my win.

>>176012719
yes I havent played since the SS patch though and I want to see how much he fucked the meta with his bullshit

>>176012960
SS plays much like germany i.e super late tanks so you get fucked by rushes

>>176010638
No they're shit

Remind me did the AA guns have AP during Euro Escalation's early days?

>>176009157

Base TOW wasn't that special, only 430 mm of pen. While that can handle T-55 and T-62 fine, it can't pen T-72, T-72A, or any T-64 from the front.

Malyutka P (SACLOS one) could pen whatever, though. 500ish mm of RHA pen. Both were similarly accurate, but Mal had a bigger dead zone in front of it (500 m).

>>175999780

Name of song?

>>176007203
yes

>>176013771
430 isn't even enough for the modernised T-55s or T-62s.

>Anno Domini 2017
>Eugene's 6th game
>engineers/pioniers/sappers still can't build minefields, obstacles, destroy bridges or do anything else but be le flamethrower infantry

>>176014875
>engineers/pioniers/sappers still can't build minefields, obstacles, destroy bridges
Not really within the scale of a 40-60m game, either in WG or SD.

>>176014928
A squad of engineers can put down a small scale minefield in no time if the road is not paved. Combat engineers are also obligated to build them while under fire if ordered to do so.

Trust me I'm a knower.

>>176015218
But it would slow down an already slow style of game reeeeeeee

>>176015218
Squad?
I love that game!

>>176015259
But it would create new possibilities for proper encirclements
>trap a motorized/mechanized shitter into a narrow forest road because you built a minefield and positioned AT on the flanks

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>Try to sneak my troops around a flank in Steal Dickfission
>Huge line visible to everyone shifts a billion miles
>Enemy deploys a billion troops to counteract a troop movement they shouldn't have been aware of in the first place

>>176016091
Don't Airborne units not affect the line?

>>176016196
Airborne units aren't affected for morale and surrender penalties. Small recon units don't affect the line.

>>176016091
Literally never happens unless the enemy is an incompetent.

You don't push the line unless the enemy has nothing in the area.

>>176016091
French units shouldnmt affect the line because they have resistance helpers and it is their homeland so they know the area well and how to move stealthily

>>176016291
Could have been something bigger than a 1v1. You can get gaps when multiple players are involved.

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>>176016379
You know, a more sensible way to do the frontline stuff would have been to have *every* unit influence it, even recon.
But when you toggle any unit onto the 'return fire only' stance they no longer influence the front.

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>>176012719
Why do people like robz when all it does is turn the game into artillery campfest?

>>176016683
Just turn off arty/mortars

oh weait it only disables arty for allies, SS and Germany still get it :^)
Robz is not biased

>>176016683
>deploy arty
>arty gets sniped from across the map by a tank
You never played robz i guess

>>176016593
A mode that makes it so units don't affect the front would be interesting. You would be making the tactical decision to cede territory for extra stealth. It would need to be a different order though. Alot of my units holding ground use the "return fire only" order. Of course in destruction it would only be beneficial, since once the fighting started, suddenly the front would update to your benefit. Might need to be tweaked, but conquest is the primary game mode anyway.

>>176016683
Because it is more balanced accurately representing the capabilities of Wehrmacht and especially the elite SS troops.

>>176016683
>implying vanilla isn't an artillery campfest except nothing dies when hit

>>176016754
Maybe if you are playing on the vanilla maps

>>176016963
>play on custom map
>the already abyssmal pathfinding somehow becomes EVEN WORSE
Confirmed for never having played mowas

>>176017061
>plays a mod that makes everything have 10 times more range on maps that were designed in 2006 for units with drastically less view range than AS2
confirmed for starting the series with AS2

>>176017204
wanna fite fgt?

>>176017401
1v1 me in robz nigga

only if I can play SS though

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>>176017626
>2017
>STILL being a naziboo

>>176017780
awww you scared?
When you get the balls to fight me, add meo n steam
[SS Divsion Adolf Hitler]ϟϟ Kurt Meyer ϟϟ

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>>176017626
>asks for 1v1
>doesn't post steamid

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058111728

>>176017932
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198089019988

>>176017932
http://steamcommunity.com/id/AdolifHitler

>>176017932
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198267578975

>>176018249
>1 VAC ban on record

>>176018091
commie

>>176018153
wehraboo

>>176018249
vac ban

>>176018297
wehraboo


0/10, terrible profiles would not add

>>176019894
post yours

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Is CoH welcome here?

>>176016683
C-cute

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>>176020358
NO!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>176020182
why would i do that when i can watch from the sidelines and criticize without the fear of being criticized myself?

idiot.

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>>176020358
Yeah

>>175995586
>>He uses Rifles
what's wrong with then?

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>>176018091
>>176018153
>>176018249
>>176018297
>literal meme profiles
do you people really think this is funny?

>>176004646
the Red army was at it's lowest point in '42 too though

>>176021060
>not having a meme profile
boring fag

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>le shitty 2ID riflemen meme

>>176020358
There is not much new shit to talk about outside of discussing patches.

I fear that SD and CoH combined could create too much naziboo vs the_rest posting.

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>germans perform historically correct
>ameritard:"this game sucks"

every time

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>>176022906
>historically accurate germans
>no game models random breakdowns due to being overengineered pieces of shit

Why are German tanks so incredibly over armored compared to IRL, even stugs which were worse armored than shermans have more armour most of the time...

>>176024898
>ronson
>armour

pick only one

>>176023258
Thanks for the (you) burgerclap

>>176024898
You deserve it for playing as disgusting Anglos

>>175980382
goddamn look at those asses.

>>176025235
that was my (you)

here is your (you)

>>176020683
what the fuck am i looking at?

ded

>>176030896
get out of this thread

Are Ranger Marauders literally the most powerful unit in the world?

>>176034214
You can now only have a unit, and your opponent can only have a unit. You each get 20 of these units, and you need to win the conquest match. Which unit do you pick? Costs and availability is ignored.

>>176035053
Heavy bombers.

>>176035305
Will you be able to see anything?

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How do you kill a King Tiger?

>>176035978
very carefully

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>>176035978
One allied plane and the german crew drives into a ditch flipping it over

>>176035978
17-pdrs at close range, 76mms at very close range, or most things on a flank, all made easier by morale damage from air/artillery

>>176035383
>>176035305
but air units cant push conquest front?

>>176008580
But it's better than Wargame in every way.

>>176012719
>Robz
You might have had my interest if you had picked a mod that doesn't destroy all balance and gameplay for 'muh realism xDDD'. Robz is ass for multiplayer. Try World at War/Valkyrie.

>>176035978
A single AT infantry

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>>176016683
Because they're afraid of playing actually balanced mods or vanilla and having to actually git gud at the game because of it's high skill floor.

>>176037695
>multiplayer is more fun if tanks have health bars like in company of cancer
>infantry can only shoot at each other at arms reach because "muh balanse"
can you go be retarded somewhere else please?

>>176037806
I guess you count on getting a lucky hit then, and also letting you drive right into them.

>>176017626
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084202171/

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>>176037837
>vanilla mow
>good in any way

>vanilla mow
>not a fucking broken piece of slav shit

tip top bait

>>176037884
>count on the enemy being idiots
Yeah it works pretty often.

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>>176020358
It's allowed but we're going to make fun of your shit taste.

>>176022906
>German special snowflake super tanks and ubermensch magical SS troops get slaughtered
>Wehraboo furiously posts 20 threads on forum and demands refund.

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>>176037884
>Lucky hit
Wehraboos are pretty fucking dumb. Just panic/smoke the king tiger and 9 times out of 10 it will either drive headlong into the penetration range of an AT gun or get smoked by AT infantry sneaking up on it's unprotected flank due to the massive costs of their special snowflake bullshit.

>>176038242
>Wehraboos are pretty fucking dumb

This is a bad meme, do you as a player never play Axis?

>>176037863
>>176038018
>Says Robz players
>Who are constantly bitching 24/7 in these threads about how unbelievably broken their mod designed by some 15 year old is
There are tournaments for WaW. There are no tournaments for Robz. Git gud.

Gameplay and balance > Fake realism in a game not at all designed for the damage models and ranges idiots try to hamfist into it.

>>176038394
I do. I play both sides pretty evenly. Wehraboo is an insult directed at the faggots that literally play nothing but nazi bullshit, and will outright leave a server if they can't have their KRUPP STEEL.

Also generally the only people that are dumb enough to think that paying 250+ for a tank in steel division is a remotely sane idea outside of 10v10.

>>176038424
There are tournaments for SC2 and it's still a shitty game you dumb faggot.

>last three games german players surrender and leave because they begin losing in early game
what a bunch of faggots

>>176038394
I'm not him, but I play axis pretty often because I like stugs and fw 190s and neat armored cars

and yes, people who never ever play allies and alt-f4 when their favorite nazi tank dies are typically pretty fucking dumb and easy to deal with

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>>176038551
Fucking wew, lad.

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>all those wehrbs complaining that allies have good at guns

>>176038704
>have no arguments
>better start damage controlling by spouting memes
did you get btfo in robz by any chance?

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>>176038778
>Arguements
>Against someone that implies everything with an actual competitive scene is shit compared to his shitty mod made for people that can't play MoW, with absolutely no competitive scene of any sort because of non-existant balance and shit gameplay.
I'm pretty sure the concept of an 'argument' requires you to actually make some sort of defense other than just calling every objective example I give 'shit'.

>>176038553
I feel like any early aggression divisions (re: most allies) are likely to be nerfed because of this

there's something about early-game rushes, no matter what game it is, that makes people screech autistically and reach for the surrender button, even if they could definitely catch up and push back with smart play

>>176039407
Shhh, let him embarrass himself.

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>>176039407
>he doesn't even know how vanilla mowas works
>anime
Props on being a top retard in a ocean of retards.

>>176039178
Every single early game success I had in those games were because of the shit skills of those players though, it wasn't an early-game rush or abuse or anything like that, it was them just being straight up shit and having terrible unit composition.
I'm not even a good player

>>176039043
Are you honestly saying mow is not broken as all hell?
No mod can fix this shit and they don't care. Hell they are making the next rehashed game in the series already which will have the same fucking issues.

>playing men of war
>tell vehicle to move a couple feet ahead
>it starts by turning around and driving there backwards
>stops before reaching destination
>order it to move again
>now it does nothing at all

also popular
>put soldiers into defensive positions
>enemy soldier approaches
>your soldier watches as enemy soldier walks up and shits on your soldiers face
or
>your soldier watches as a grenade lands in front of him

And don't forget that people with fucking gaming rigs get dropped by the game for because their performance is too low

>>176039591
It's really not. It's got it's own minor balance problems in vanilla, but it's nowhere remotely close to the god awful clusterfuck of Robz and GSM; Both of which are to MoW what Blitzkreig is to CoH1.

It's fine to enjoy Robz or GSM, but trying to imply they are in any way remotely competitive and balanced just makes you look like you've played nothing else, let alone at any serious level, such as participating in ladders.

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>ingame name in SD is Bomber Harris, Destroyer of Dresden
>join lobby of some guy with some wehrb as fuck name
>expelled by host

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>>176039563
>a mod that doesn't modify the engine somehow behaves differently
>provides no proof
nice ad hominem

>>176038543
>Also generally the only people that are dumb enough to think that paying 250+ for a tank in steel division is a remotely sane idea outside of 10v10.
it really depends on the map and match up, it's a bit daft to make a statement like that

>>176040002
>every game i play must be an e-sport cancer fest
Coh2 was literally designed for retards like yourself and it's immensly shitty but i bet you enjoy it.

>>176040383
what the fuck are you talking about lad
I'm talking about a wehraboo being so butthurt at someone using the nickname Bomber Harris that they kick them

dumbass

>>176040475
obviously a misquote, calm your tits faglord

fuck phoneposting tbqh

>>176040383
>Waaaaah I want to cherry pick all my opponents because I'm a total vagina that can't handle the occasional loss!

>>176039775
It's sad since men of war had so much potential

>>176040762
Is it a game worth getting, or am I likely to feel disappointing? It always seems to get panned in here.

t. played a ton of gravimeme

>>176040872
desu I had plenty of fun in MoW in singleplayer.
I've got a total of about 370~ hrs in original MoW, assault squad, and assault squad 2 combined, just fucking around with dynamic campaign generator, custom missions, and the editor

>>176040872
I don't know you will have to see if you can get used to or mine the shitty controls

>>176040620
how is that related at all?
do you really think infantry should not be able to shoot further than you can throw a stone?
do you enjoy being a casualfag?

>>176040872
It's an excellent game with a really loud minority of shitters. If you're comfortable with micro there's really no other game like it. If you decide to pick it up, don't immediately download Robz or GSM and let those govern your first impression of the game, as they are designed to play completely different.

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>>176040872

Get the original Men of War for singleplayer, it actually has a really fun campaign.

>>176041024
They shoot pretty far, though. Play the actual fucking game instead of talking about shit you know nothing about. You faggots are fucking annoying with constantly ranting about other games you've never even fucking played, and ranting about vanilla gameplay in MoW you never fucking touch, let alone get good at playing.

>casualfag
You know we can always just play a match right now in vanilla if you're so fucking great and above it.

>>176040872
Do you enjoy picking up your soldiers helmets and requipping them for all of your ~200 troops?
Do you enjoy non-existent pathfinding?
Do you enjoy constantly babysitting every single unit you have (pros will call this "micro")?
Do you enjoy games that randomly crash?

If you answered yes to all of these then mowas2 is for you.

>>176040872
It's alright, you really need people to play it with though if you ask me. It's the only sure way to have success. Playing vs AI to me is a snoozefest.

Does assault squad 2 have any good campaign mods?

>>176037695
>world at war
>install
>try to create game
>...
>session is full
Amazing. I regret every cent i spent on mowas2.

Sorry but Robz > Vanilla

heh, there gonna love this.
*puts 1 squad of RGR Assault into an enemy forest*
*burning krauts intensifies*

>>176045264
>hmm a forest surrounded by fields that has a major road running through it that I need to pass
>I wonder if the enemy has troops in there
Enjoy my nereblenweferings

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Why not add one time plane call-ins

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>>176045489
>nereblenweferings
???

>>176045602
Because we already have the HS-129.

>>176045643
>he doesn't know what a naghbalwuarfuier is

>>176045643
>>176046823
>american """education"""

>>176046592
goteem

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>>176046592

I haven't been playing 17. SS since the new divisions came out, but I've decided to check it out today and God damn the new meta with abundance of Wolverines has made Stug's so terrible. Before that I felt like 17. was a decent deck, but right now it's such a struggle. You literally have to drive 200 meters to get them in your range while under fire, and once you get there, they already have +2 accuracy plus fired shots corrections so, even no star M10's wins duels against 2 star stugs 90% of the time.

>>176047000
you must be serverely autistic, also nice digits

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>>176048041
>Wtf how come my tanks don't work against counters to tanks

>>176048465
Yes...that's a really deep answer my friend, bless your heart.

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ugh.,.. I cant believe people ACTUALLY doubt the greatness of the glorious German Heer Wehrmacht

>>176048041
I'm trying to find a good way for 17th to deal with wolverines, but yeah, doesn't look like they have one. I'd say just play defensively with AT guns (and don't try attacking with stugs, use them defensively too) until you can get some good air and artillery strikes in, since wolverines' thin armor and open top make them relatively easy to kill with rockets/bombs.

seems likely though that dealing with early wolverines just isn't 17th's role, since their niche seems to be narfleburglaring infantry-based decks in towns and forests.

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>>176049337
>that feel when you will never katyn the wehraboos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4bIn_hrCz4

Scots are still great-tier.
Their only significant put-down is their phase A arty selection.

>>176053934
if the penis is feminine and caged then its no problem

>>176053934
If you didn't know I wouldn't consider it gay, if you did know then you're a fag since that's the appeal for trapfappers

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>>176054924
Gayness is not dependent on the observer, its a direct measurable quantity.

Pleading ignorance does not make you any less gay for fucking a man.

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>every single mowas game online is using robz
g-guys?

>>176056471
robz is superior to vanilla.

Anybody who dislikes it either
1. Played in a 3000000 CP 10zillion MP game
2. only played 2 games and didnt get used to the ranges so they got destroyed by moving everything so close

>>176056617
>robz is superior to vanilla.
t. wehraboo

>>176056836
I only play Japan when I am axis

>playing some luft
>Get some good positions
>Opposing player is 12th ss and very passive
>Assuming they are building up for some epic Phase C push to wipe me off the map
>Just amassing aircraft, and hiding my AT guns
>Phase C
>Nothing still happening
>"Where's your Phase C push?"
>"I'm a noob"
>Spend the rest of the game typing pointers into the chat
It was pretty comfy desu.