/dfg/ Dwarf Fortress General

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>tfw elves ruined the tourney

xth for bins and bins of stone blocks

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>>175964650
>Elves edition
>Not hydra edition

What the fr*ck OP

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>>175965472
>tfw your crap hydra was so crap it got left out

>>175964652
You can change like, almost all of that stuff now since he moved so much to the xml and config options.

>fort has like 15 dorfs, 5 are kids
>a vile force of darkness has arrived!
what the fuck toady

>>175966159
>they instantly fuck off

>>175966359
nevermind, they just dissapered, but they're still here

>>175965752
Oh right sorry max, I only included the drawn ones :c

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Yes, YES!

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>>175965114

>>175966527
I-i-it's not like I care if senpai notices me or anything!

>>175967856
>using a quote from John in /pol/ propaganda

lol

Or maybe they're just trolling and threw that in as a joke?

>>175968137
It's a meme, don't worry anon.

>>175968137
It's a joke anon. But fuck jews.

>>175966159
Send in the child soldiers!

>>175966492
>they just dissapered, but they're still here
Which is it?

>>175971105
they stopped being visible, but appeared again after a while, and the siege text never dissapeared
>>175970968
children are busy smoothing the floors and operating my pumps
god bless child labor

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is it too late to post hydro

Modanon here, dumping all of my mods below. Ive updated each of them so if you've downloaded any of the older versions i suggest you get the brand new one!

Draconians:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12874

Foreign Weapons: Now with slingshot!
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12871

Solid Snake:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12885

Motherfucking Dinosaurs:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12886

Report any bugs you'll find in the thread. I read every post here ^^

>>175965115
>>175965472
>>175965752
>>175972503

Obligatory
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12882

>>175966585

>inb4 horrifying screams

>>175972503

Nice

I like the cute middle head being all flower and sunshine

>>175967856
Toady made a game called liberal crime squad that makes fun of communists/liberals

Nice bait

>>175972565
For anyone whose request ive taken, im still working on them.
The current order is:
Hobbits > Tree people & grow potions > Cookie race > Xenomorphs > Joke weapons

>>175972952
I haven't played LCS in years. Is there anything new?

>>175972503
Very cute snek, would tickle under chin(s)

>>175973365
It's not worked on nearly as much as DF, I don't think there's even been an update since 2013 so it's probably exactly the same as when you played it.

>>175972503
Never too late for retardydra!

This thread is FUCKIMG comnfy :3

>>175972952
I never knew he made that game and just lost a ton of respect for toady. He completely misrepresents an entire ideology with inaccurate strawmen. Kinda sad knowing someone so ignorant made a game like DF.

>>175974519
Chill the fuck out lmfao. If you're that politically minded you should be running for congress not playing video games. It's GTA tier satire and the game is still fun.

>>175974519
Lol

>>175974717
he's shitposting, don't even reply

>>175974519
Pseudo Enlightened Redditor: the post

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>>175973723
Snek you say?

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>>175972565
>katanas & great bows

HNNNNG!

But seriously nicely done anon,thanks for all the hard-work! Have an elf with amble cleavage for your trouble

Post comfy

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>>175975204

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>>175975204
Make me.

>>175975158
Thank you very much for the kind words anon, it makes me really happy to know there are people who enjoy my mods besides the people in this thread that have requested them themselves.

Is there anything in specific you'd like me to add to the game?
I got bunch of other requests already so it might take a while to get around to yours but i'll gladly mod anything for you (and anyone else in this thread) if it makes you happy!

>>175975586
WHat the fUcK is that anon

>>175972565
What are you thinking of tinkering with once magic and relics hit?

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>>175975204
Who died and made you king?

>>175975920
As the filename suggests, it's a screenshot of a tavern.

>>175975158
I don't get it. Do elves with cleavage cry harder when they see your wooden trading post or something? I would imagine they still drown like the other elves.

>>175974519
If you can't respect toady just because of one opinion then you're exactly like the people he satirizes in that game.

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>>175976129
>internet explorer

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>>175975753
Driders (Spider Centaurs) with the ability to shoot webs would be cool to see.

If you could also implement a fire-based one (kinda like Quelaag from Dark Souls) as well, that'd be sweet.

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>>175975204
>tfw you will never enjoy dwarven hentai

>>175976370
Unironically gave me a boner. Not kidding. I may even post it

There may be many elfs, but there is only one elfshaker.

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>>175975586
here's one from the last thread

>>175976269
>replying to bait

>>175976561
Looks like a gobbo hole

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>>175975204

>>175976063
I only recently got back to dwarf fortress from a rather long break. Been hopping between this, WoW, Mount & Blade and Space station 13.
Is there some kind of big magic/relic update coming up? When is it going to come out?

>>175976367
I think this got requested in last thread and i agreed to do it (and forgot to add it to the list)
Thanks for reminding about it!

>>175976370
http://i.imgur.com/WABjRT3.png

>>175976517
>I may even post it
I won't tell you what to do. Just b urself

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pls do more clay scenes, timbuk

>>175976517
Are you talking about the implied raip combat log?
Post it!

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>>175976894
>that link
I was expecting some spicy dwarf porn

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>>175977075
Don't forget about the implied rape we used to have in the actual game.

Pic related are examples of what characters used to say when bragging about kills.

many of them sound quite rapey.

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>>175975204

>>175977943
is that a lava pit

So could you go kill some angels, get their divine weapons, haul it to an abandoned fortress, and then dump it there and reclaim? Can you have divine metal in fortress mode?

>>175978031
Its a volcano with a soon-to-be-built fortress going around it.

>>175978193
Yes, same goes for necromancer books and vampirism.

Things get especially fun if you take your necromancer book to your library as EVERYONE who reads it will become a necromancer themselves.

>>175978436
>Necromancer Fort
Sounds fucking sweet.

>>175978436
>Things get especially fun if you take your necromancer book to your library as EVERYONE who reads it will become a necromancer themselves.
Huh, I'm still kind of new to the game, but I keep expecting things like this to not work since they seem too fun and obscure.
If my fortress falls, I'll make sure to drop some divine metal in there if I can.

>>175978581
That would mean your dwarves would have to become vegetarians though. Is it worth the sacrifice?

Being able to resurrect all of your dead dorfs to defend your fort sounds awesome though

>>175977943
I know it looks nothing like it, but this still gives me a temple of elemental evil vibe. Love it, post progress.

In the next few years magic will come to Dwarf Fortress. What a time to be alive

>>175979113
Can't wait for the magic mods to come out.

>>175978896
Oh no thats not my fort unfortunately, just happened to come across it while searching for a different image.

Try image searching on google though, you might come across an updated version of the fort. Its probably pretty old.

>>175979229
Magic is actually pretty easily moddable as it is, although you can probably do way more fun stuff with magic once the update is out.

>>175978827
>My ancestors smile upon me, imperial, how about you?
>Anecstor literally smiling down from a balcony

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>>175977173
No porn for you!

>>175979725
>thats not my fort unfortunately
Still, post stories. I'm in dire need of some comfy.

>>175981097
>those ears
Urist prepare the drowning chambers, we have a visitor

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>folks talking about lewdness
>nobody showing off their sexy orogenous zones

>made it all the way to the end of the vault, slaughtering absolutely everything i saw with my necromancer vampire axelord
>recovered the slab
>know the demon's true name

Now what? Where can i find this demon?

>>175982651
How do you make these kind of worlds anon?

>>175982739
Look him up in legends

>>175982739
Ask people if they know where it is, perhaps.

Do you know anything about it aside from the name

>>175982739
>fight through a vault
>kill everything
>flip every lever
>go through every door
>tfw no slab in sight

>>175982952
Just the following
"I am *Demon name*, once of the Underworld. By *God name* i bind myself to this place."

>>175983037
Look for a dome-like room with a little pedestal, the slab should be right in middle of it.

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>>175982885
Insanity driving me to tweak the elevation grids and various values endlessly.

https://pastebin.com/2agfz39r

>>175983353
its incredibly frustrating to me that you are barred from most of that map if you play it in adventure mode.

Fast travel across mountain roads whennnn

seriously why can't we do that?

>>175983338
>the slab should be right in middle of it
This was a while back, but I spent at least an hour running around this vault going down every single passageway. I couldn't find it.

>>175983603
This

Adventure mode has made me absolutely hate rivers and mountains in this game.

>>175983603
>>175983740
You can always just, you know, manually walk over mountains

>>175983740
I think you should be able to fast-travel them with high enough swimming/climbing skills.

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>>175983353
all those volcanoes

>>175979113
We won't get magic within the next 5 years, maybe 7-8 years down the line.

>>175983989
>tfw they will never erupt and turn forts and sites into Pompeii

How much harder is making a playable civ compared to a non-playable civ? Is it only a bit harder or a lot harder?

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>>175983603
I make use of dfhack atm, but there's another goal which I was after with these maps.

See the black lines through the mountains?

TUUUUUUBEEESSSSSSSSS

>>175984598
c-can you upload the parameters/seed pls

>>175984442
Wtf there's only one playable civ

>>175984769
NOT ANYMORE

SAY HELLO TO KOBOLD FORTRESS, MOTHERFUCKER

>>175984769
I mean making one with a mod. How much harder is it to make a new playable civ compared to a normal one? If its not that much harder than normal I want to make it playable.

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>>175984442
well if it's anything like kobolds not very hard at all

why does this always happen when you retire the goblins or kobolds anyway,seems to happen even if they were all friends after retiring

>break into the cavern
>covered with troglodyte blood and mangled corpses
What the fuck happened here

>>175984732
https://pastebin.com/1NnUqNKc

>>175985276
The annual Cave Spider blood orgy.

>>175985302
thank

>>175985464
YOUr welCOme

>>175985342
Thinking about it, it's probably a result of being in an evil biome. Something dies, it becomes a zombie, manages to kill something else before it but gets mangled shortly after, and the chain repeats until there's blood and mangled corpses everywhere. I'm surprised I seem to have broken into the caverns on layer 2, with no layer 1, though. There's rutherers and black-caps.

how do i manage jobs and professions without dwarf therapist?

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>>175986029
MY WELCOME TOO

>Learned the basics over the last three days
>Lost five fortresses already
>Time to put it all to test in a new world not littered by dehydrated, drowned and deathdropped dwarves
>Beautiful freshwater lake in tropical biome surrounded by mountains with some dark lands not too close, not too far
>Choose starting location
>Forking waterfall

I am beginning to ha ve a lot of comfy feelings.

>>175984928
Its not *that* hard to make but it involved a lot of work as you have to recreate alot of the workshops etc to make items that are the right size for your creatures.

There are other problems aswell but i cant remember them off the top of my head.
>>175986116
Select dorf, select labor, select job.
V - P - L is the button combination i think.

>>175987171
>inb4 goblins ruin everything

>>175987710
I'm counting on/hoping for it

>>175987524
>recreate alot of the workshops etc to make items that are the right size for your creatures.

>my civ has at least 4 castes with different sizes

Well that's out the fuckin window then

>>175979113
When magic does come out I am making an enchanted arm prosthesis that shoots beer.

>>175989024
I'll make sure to craft one that shoots bear

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>>175989232
>/dfg/ in two years
>guiz halp how I shot bear?
>level ur hydratard newb!

>>175987171
DF is #1 comfy

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OP pasta is wrong, starter pack with DFhack and utilities is updated

Change that shit before i cut your elven throat

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>>175989024
why not magma?

>>175991106
I thought DFhack was only officially up to 43.03.

>>175991929
The beta is fine, no reason to stick to 43.03, not that there was before but really now it's just ridiculous.

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Spank me and tell me my fort/tileset is bad, daddy.

This is like my fourth fort. This game is fun.

The captcha taking five seconds to load images is so terrible it's making me actually, physically angry.

What happens if a city-based civ builds underground tunnels? Are they basically unuseable or does an entrance spawn?

>>175987524
>>175988226
No you don't. Creatures automatically make items sized for them, there's not even a way in entity raws to decide what size items they make. And using the details menu to make items sized for different races is a vanilla feature anyway. Not sure how that last bit works with different castes of the same race, though.

>>175992773
Well I guess I'll give it a shot then.

>>175992546
good stuff anon

>>175992546
Well, they are, but it seems you already know as much so at least you've got that going for you.
A few tips:
Don't dig your fort in the dirt, you're playing dwarf fortress, not hobbit hole.
Your farms are way too big.
Those trees will leave holes in your ceiling if you dig under them then cut them, you've already got at least one.
Something something symmetry reeeee.

Ok, I have a problem.

I faced some real heavy FPS drop and it took me 15 seconds to move a square and I was in the middle of the ocean so I couldn't travel or anything.

So I looked up some DFHacks and used something called "Instant-Transmission".
Done and done, I teleported to somekind of crab, that'd probably be somewhere else.
I was right, but apperently I teleported 22 floors beneath the surface of the water and I'm stuck in somekind of cave.

How do I get out of here? Do you guys know another more reliable Hack that can get me out of this cave and somewhere else?

>I get my first visitor to my tavern
This is it boys, this is where I make it big time
People everywhere are gonna hear about tomesinged and that really nifty artifact tooty horn we got sitting in our tavern

>>175992546
The bedrooms need coffers and cabinets

>>175992546
The beginnings of a great fort. Fuck around with some stuff, see if you can make a cistern or something. Sand walls and floors are not ideal, but they mostly just trigger autists. They can't be engraved but they work fine. They will become fungus one day though, might want to convert them to grazing pastures at some point after you breach caverns.

this game has everything except orcs

why are there no orcs?

>>175993386

I tell you, man, the ASCII hurts my dang eyes.

Thank you for the tip about the trees. I hadn't realized. That's certainly in and of itself a fairly good reason to dig deeper, stonier accommodations.

>>175995032
orcs are the same thing as goblins in some works

Are Lungfish supposed to fly?

>>175995240
I'm just giving you shit, it's no skin off my ass what cosmetic choices you make. I'll note that the color scheme is entirely separate from the tileset, so if it's just an eyerape issue you can probably address it that way.

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>>175995032
the same reason you can't craft stone beds or chairs

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>>175996301
They're uncomfortable?

>>175995032
It does. They're called goblins.

>>175995349
In Tolkien's work (which DF is obviously based on) they were the same thing, he just shifted his terminology over the years.

What stat most affects the odds an NPC will be made leader of a town/village/kingdom?

Is there any place where I can read up on how dwarf fortress was programmed? Like how world generation works?

>>175983353
how do i use this

what does it look like when you embark

>>175999104
Depends on where you embark. Just like in any other world.

>>175999104
You save it in df/data/init/world_gen.txt at the end of the file and select it under the advanced world-gen entry, and it should look like a world with a bunch of mountains and lakes and shit on the embark screen?

>>175996301
When we get magic we will have sentient artifact beds.

So, any good tileset for 43.05? Also, utilities recommended?

>embark on a terrifying marshland
>nice waterfall with mist
>get killed
>embark on a new area with a waterfall
>no mist
what gives?

>>176003776
looks like you missed it

>>175998727
Oh it seems like its social awareness

>>176004954
For elected positions social skill levels matter as well. For noble positions heredity trumps both.

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>>176004857
You forgot your face Carlos

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>>176004857
That's funny because the words are homophones but they don't mean the same thing at all.

Is wrestling any good vs armored enemies in fortress mode?
I know it won't be as good as normal weapons but I want to know how bad it is.

>>176006017
It can be strong enough. Armor doesn't protect the joints at all, so a legendary wrestler can snap the limbs of an opponent pretty easily. They take a lot longer to finish the job, though, and a grappling dwarf is an easy target for the rest of the gobbos. A shield is recommended at least, even if you're not using any weapons.

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>>176004857
>>176005505
eyyyyyy

>someone killed the thread
Carlos!

So my boar man adventurer got some spine tissue damage while enacting high-impact sexual violence on some goblins.

He can't stand anymore, but he can dance exceptionally, which is hilarious.

Is there a way to fix his legs? Or is he toast? Could I have him go on a dance-related quest of his own devising and have a god grant him his legs back by modding the game?

Where is the list of symbols the game draws from to determine kingdom names? I can't find a database of them despite extensive googling.

>>176011303
it has its own raw folder. I don't remember the name, but it was something like language_sym or something like that.

>>176011560
That was it, thank you.

>>176011560
>its own raw folder
of course, I meant raw file

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It seems like my militia comander is a dick.

Now that were talking about language symbols, what the fuck happened to this wiki section?

>http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/40d:Language#language_SYM.txt

As far as I know, it's still accurate, yet they ditched it from the wiki.

Also, does anyone here know whether you can create your own symbols, or just change the existing ones?

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>Zolak Racehate

>>176011787
As is his right. Militia commanders are keeping the fort safe and should be respected at all times.

>>176010623
Nevermind, got killed by gobbo ambush.

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whats this

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it's going to kill me with giving and kindness, isn't it?

how do crossbows do against a hill titan

>>176013792
we socrates now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology#Justification

>>176013792
forgot to link this as well
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Topic

>>176014178
it would be extremely painful.

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All right, my new mod "Fantastical Races" is in the alpha stage. Basically, the goal of this mod is to add six new and hopefully interesting civilizations to the game, in order to add a bit more flavor and variety to the world. I have no idea if the civs are balanced in any capacity, or the adventurers you can make from those civs. But that's not important right now and I'll get to it as problems arise. Right now, the mod features exactly 1 civilization, the Manat race. These guys are a species of quasi-undead Giger ripoffs that, despite an unsettling appearance, were constructed out of the mangled souls and bodies of humans (plus some other fun bits) and due to the residual not-evilness of their human heritage, aren't a bunch of mindless killing machines like most races of a similar design are. That said, they are isolationist, xenophobic, obsessively lawful neutral, and practically every crime carries a serious punishment with it. They are playable in both adventurer and fort mode, although in fort mode they lack the secret of steel making and Adamantine-smithing, but I left that stuff in the raws if people want to change it. Also, they come in 6 different castes with their own strengths and weaknesses. I will add more races as soon as I can, but right now I might as well release what I currently have. Let me know what you think of the mod so I can continue to improve it.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=05396063114410481881

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>>176014178
fuuck all it's doing is bruises

>>176014592
>all that wood
Anon, do you have something to tell us?

>>175972565
Unable to open df currently thanks for all your work friend. What makes the spooky retarded hydra so special btw? Is it just a regular hydra with only three heads and a funny description?

>>176014759
>if u use le wood, ur le elf xDDDD
>even though elves hate when you use wood
what did the retarded memers mean by this?

>>176014978
Who are you quoting?

>>176014978
Elves use wood all the time, they just don't use wood that's been chopped down. They grow their wood organically into whatever form they need, like a chair or a table.

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>>176014759
I can tell you that the titan is dead

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>>176015207
and the miner did it in this state apparently

>>176015207
>miner coming in to save the day with glorious dwarven steel pick
nice

>>176015313
>born in the year 6928
n-nani?!

>>176015179
Do you think the anon with the wooden shields made those shields out of "grown wood", like the elves?

He obviously cut down wood to make them.

The generic, braindead meme reply was entirely unwarranted.

>>176015413
You sound like you need to get some sleep.

>>176015559
I just pointed out how retarded and inconsistent the whole "if u use le wood, ur le elf xDDD" meme was.

How in the world would cutting down trees make you an elf? Please explain this to me, without snarky insults.

>>176015076
he appears to be quoting post number 176014759. don't take my word for it though, see for yourself!

>>176015662
Nobody said if you used wood you are an elf.
That whole "if you use le wood ur le elf xdxdxdxd" was totally unwarranted. Anon is sperging out.

>>176015313
and here's a gem from the combat log

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>>176015743

>>176014759
>>all that wood
>Anon, do you have something to tell us?

What the heck else is he implying here then?

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>>176015793

>>175972565
real thanks m8

>>176015842
>Tell me why you're using wood shields and wooden bolts

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>>176015313
what the fuck man

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>Get sent to slay bandits in adventure mode.
>Slay a couple without taking a hit.
>The one I think is the leader yields after a single blow.

What do I do now?
What can you do with yielded foes?

>>176015662
Show us on the steel doll where the wooden log touched you, anon.

>>176017116
lamo xDDD

so owned!! such bantz!!

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>>176016704
What do you think?

Nothing interesting yet, i belive being able to enslave yielded opponents is an upcoming feature though.

>>176017293
Even for an ironic overreaction that was pretty lame.

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>>176017359
>Nothing yet.
Goddamn it.

Enslaving should be cool. I did try and recruit the filthy bandit, but she just spat at me instead.
Shoulda just killed her, her shitty bandits may not have hurt me, but they dismembered my favourite companion right leg + hand.

Any adventure mode players here?
Would you be interested if i made selectable "classes" to the adventure mode, each with their own special abilities?

If dwarf will wear fire imp clothes will it defend him from fire? Nether-cap bridge will not ignite from dragon-breath? Is it the only material with such property?

>>176018298
I'd be interested to see how you went about it, definitely.

>>176019042
Dragon's breath destroys pretty much anything but constructions, artifacts, and fireimmune_super creatures/their materials. You can block dragonfire with any shield but you can also burn them if you had them strapped down or something.

>>176019304
But i'm asking about nether-cap, it has fixed temperature.

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>>176019563
Have to set the heat_dam/ignite points over 55k urists to ignore dragonfire.

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>Tfw having to win a 2v1 against gobbos with only a shield because they lucked out and hurt your sword arm just enough for you to drop your weapon.

REMOVE GOBLIN

>>175992546
You
I like you!

>>176017514
>>176017359
Toady confirmed that slavery will be a game mechanic (sorry no source)
We have slavery ethics after all

Mmm, we also have that lust parameter...

he somehow confirmed that things like racisms and prejuices will also come into play eventually, so we'll someday be able to play DF civ mode and, as a king, command whole armies to raid the elves and bring their best females for sex slaves

oh, add the planned hibridation mechanic on the table and it almost seems that toady made DF to be a fantasy fetish simulator

>>176020561
Slavery is a game mechanic.

Civs with positive slavery ethics often take slaves when they sack enemy sites. These slaves can be encountered in the game. In adventure mode, you can even offer to bring them back to their homes.

>>176020945
One of the more consistent triggers for the elevation from hostile to warring is slavery.

ACCEPTABLE and ABHORRED civs will clash like a motherfucker, it's why I made my elves gung ho for slavery.

>>176021036
Slaves in DF appear to have very comfortable lives, though.

They often become scholars and performers, and they're seemingly free to travel the land as they like, since they often come as visitors to player forts.

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>the author of gemset wants to focus on a less cutesy graphic set in the future

>>176019304
With the advent of magic on the horizon Dragonbreath will become less of a problem because of fire nullifying enchants.

I see Geomancy becoming a new terror with spikes bursting from the ground impaling or gelding any poor dwarf in the area.

>>176021394
What's so great about it?

Cutesy sets (i.e. Gemset, Spacefox) are obviously a minority.

There are definitely enough generic brown sets.

>>176021912
I should have specified: less cutesy as in "more ascii-like", not "more phoebus/ironhand".

>>176022000
Well, I guess I can dig that.

I never played with Gemset or Spacefox, but I always appreciated how clean they looked.

It also seems like the authors are very responsible when it comes to managing their palettes, e.g. they don't add a thousand different one time colours which don't occur outside the creature graphics.

Personally, I prefer my own comfyset. Since both the tileset and the creature graphics just uses four colours (white, black, two shades of grey), and the latter gets its colours from the colour file, I don't have to worry about palettes at all. All that matters is that the colour scheme allows me to tell all the colours apart, regardless of which shade they use.

I've also considered making my set a bit more ASCII like again. I recently added an addition sign to my floors.

I'm considering doing something similar with my hatch covers. I'm not sure quite how to do it yet. hatch covers are tricky, because the colours behave totally different depending on the materials. One material means that you see the coloured areas, as usual, but another means that you only see the transparent areas, and a third means that you see both, but in different colours. This makes the hatch cover tiles hard to change.

>>176022454
I always found the style of gemset/spacefox absolutely ridiculous and unfitting for DF, but on their own, they were well made. As you said, clean looking, good color work, etc.

It's always the same problem with shitty tilesets:
phoebus/mayday/ironhand, what stonesense became once grass was added, and what apparently armok vision is now also becoming - too busy, too detailed, too many colors, no consistency - and as a result a lack of a clear, concise and fast visual identification.

I think a major advantage of ascii like tilesets is that there usually are only 16 colors and in some cases shades.
It's interesting how some tileset creators go back more and more to ascii-like graphics the longer they play and work on their graphics.

>>176022859
>It's interesting how some tileset creators go back more and more to ascii-like graphics the longer they play and work on their graphics.
It's often a necessary evil, since the individual characters progressively get more uses the longer development goes on.

For example, before the tavern update, armour stands had a unique tile. This made their tile easier to change. Now it's used as a secondary tile for dancing characters. So unless you use TWBT (which I 100% refuse, since it crashes the game and requires DFHack to be up to date), you're better off using the ASCII sign for that.

I think we'll see similar developments with other tiles, too, essentially making the graphics less and less moddable over time.

Then, the big turn will come when Toady finally adds full-graphic support, or more specifically, the ability to load tilesets with any number of characters, and then assigning those characters to each object in the game manually. By then, it will basically be possible to play DF like any 2d game.

>>176023797
>I think we'll see similar developments with other tiles, too, essentially making the graphics less and less moddable over time.
To be fair, some of the new tiles were always added as changable by Toady - trees, tracks, minecarts, wheelbarrows - though that of course doesn't change the core issue: it's still only one main tileset.
It would also make graphic set maintaining a lot easier if you could have separate text files for just the graphics so you don't have to distribute edited raws just to move the wheelbarrow to another tile.

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Will this be filled with water? I have one ocean tile in my embark though no water. Maybe it will show up in some season?

>>176024479
It's a beach.

It doesn't seem like the actual ocean goes within your embark. If it did, you'd see waves rolling onto the beach.

I'm afraid that what you see is what you get here.

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WHY WON'T YOU DIE

FRAIL MY ASS

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I think I successfully managed to re-ASCII-fy my hatch covers.

In the pic, from left to right, they're the following materials:
1. rock
2. wood
3. metal

I think those were the only material types you had to take into account.

I'll go with this for the time being.

So do dwarves literally not fight werebeast children? I had a baby get bitten due to being a moron and it transformed and proceeded to decimate my population without ever getting a bolt or punch back.

>>176024970
USE BLADE MODE TO DAMAGE ITS ARMOR

>>176026729
I LIKE YOU, URIST. SO I'M GIVING YOU ANOTHER SHOT./spoiler]

>>176028971
>/spoiler]
hehehe

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>>176030140
>TFW YOU DELETE THE FUCKING [

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>30 migrants
>over half are children

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>>176024970
>>176026729
>>176028971

Soon anon...

>>176032290
Literally just happened to me

Can dwarves worship other dwarves?
When I select the deity for a temple, one of them listed is 'The Busy Boy'. When I go to make a statue of this deity, it just says he's a dwarf. He's even still alive apparently, so it isn't some kind of ancestor worship going on.

>>176033552
Creatures that are significant enough can become worshipped, this is most common with megabeasts that have gotten themselves tons of kills. Maybe your dorf has gone on in a massive killing spree in the past or has done something else worthy of worship?

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>>176034096
Maybe he made a legendary cup

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>>176032552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vfkzMAWWKE

Just a little more tweaking and i'll put a download link here

>>176014286
>>176013792
Does anyone know if these topics have a real impact on gameplay yet? Or is it just interesting stuff to put in books

>>176018298
I think having a few presets would be nice, similarly to how the presets behave in dwarf fortress mode, or in world creation, allowing for new players to quickly pick a new game with a scenario

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>>176034795
Make Senator Armstrong - Adamantine Colossus

>>176035092
I don't think the system is hooked up to anything yet.

>>176034096
I can't look in the legends, so I don't know. I'll look him up when my fortress falls though.

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>strange mood
>it's possession

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>>176036584
>first strange mood in ages
>it's a child

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>>176002476
>Tfw the sentient artifact aluminum bed mandates that you construct a duchess

>>176014759
Nigga, nethercap shields are the best, what are you smoking?

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>>176016704
Is the leader female?
Is her description appealing?

Strip her naked, fool around with her

You're out in the wilds, noone will hear you.

Are there Treeents in this game or tree people?

would be fun if they occasionally popped up as protectors of the forest only to be mauled by a drunk squad of hammer dorfs

>>176038417
>not artifact platinum shields for ultimate bashing power

>>176038417
As of the implementation of weapon/armour degradation, wood is a worthless shield material.

Tried it in one fort, several soldiers got their shields destroyed during a single siege. It felt like Mount and Blade, with shields breaking apart both left and right.

>>176039101
You're lying. The science has been done. Shields don't degrade either blocking or bashing.

>>176039239
Wooden ones do, as clearly proven in that fort.

I've never seen a metal shield degrade, though.

>>176038834
You could ask the local mod guy to write you something up. Might take a while though, he has a lot of requests

>>176039408
>as clearly proven in that fort
It's not proven. You just made up an anecdote to support your supposition, which has been demonstrated false. Shields are shields, the degradation code applies to items as a whole, it doesn't pick and choose based on their material.

>>176039838
tfw no lovecraft mod

>>176040058
On that note, would it be possible for secrets to change creatures?
Say like something in shadow over innsmouth where all the people start turning into fish.
I was thinking it would be cool to start a dwarf fortress, and maybe your dwarves worship a deity with the secret tags, and lovecraftian shenanigans ensue.
Maybe these "cults" could start rising up like necromancer towers. The occurency seems about right, wouldn't want every dwarf who worships the deity to get changed, just like those who go down the path of necromancy.

>>176039843
Your logic seems pretty undeniable.

>>176039843
Actually, different materials degrade/break in combat based on their stats in raws. Not sure if this applies to weapons and shields but i wouldnt rule that out either.

If you dont belive try out attacking a dwarf wearing leather clothes as something like a hydra in arena and you can see their clothes being ripped apart by your attacks.

>>176038834
>>176039838
Im going to work on something similar to that pretty soon after im done with the hobbits and metal gear stuff. Shouldnt take more than a day at most unless i get lazy and procrastinate.

>>176041072
ur a cool guy

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What tips do you have for building an underwater fortress?

What's the best way to go about fighting necormancers and their hordes?
I'm worried about throwing my military at them.

>>175992546
That tileset is too cartoony. It does have some appeal though

>>176041295
Breach the ocean from below when it's frozen, and build small rooms on the ocean floor. Make sure to put in windows, so your dorfs can admire the underwater life from the safety inside.

Bonus points if some monster breaks a window and floods an entire section of the fort. The high water pressure should be pretty dangerous at that depth.

>>176041340
Cage traps

>>176042413
Too late.
I was planning on preparing them soon as well, might have saved me. As we speak, the undead are pouring into my dining hall and massacring all my inhabitants.

>>176041072
>Actually, different materials degrade/break in combat based on their stats in raws.
Right. Items break and degrade based on a test of their comparative material properties and the force of the attack. That's not what I'm disagreeing with. Shields appear to have been specifically exempted from this test, as has been corroborated by multiple anons in arena tests with dfhack used to check the exact wear levels of the shields, and further supported by the fact that any anon can see pages and pages completely undamaged enemies' shields of various materials left after a siege. Currently the only way to see a damaged shield is to leave a nonfire/magma/dragonfire-safe shield sitting in fire/magma/dragonfire, or from the refuse pile degradation bug. Both of those predate armor and weapon degradation.

mods for realistic/additional human/player anatomy?

>>176043070
As in...

Pennis?

A few questions.

Is it possible to flood the embark with magma to the point that it won't dissipate? Can I somehow get "flow" going, so it's running off both edges of the map and the game just keeps it moving? If I do this, what happens to caravans? Do they show up and burn?

>>176042017
>The high water pressure should be pretty dangerous at that depth.
Most oceans are really shallow anywhere that they're actually embarkable. They don't start to get very deep for a considerable distance from land. I've seen some exceptions where steep inclines start right where land ends, but they're pretty unusual.

>>176043206
Yeah basically

>>176043269
Two or three z-levels of water is usually enough to instantly flood hundreds of tiles.

t. guy who recently started digging out a fort, but then happened to dig a ramp under an underground lake. the dug out chamber my miners were in was at least 10x10 tiles wide and two levels high, yet it filled up entirely almost instantly. the poor miners didn't manage to take a single step before they started drowning.

>>176043373
wtf

>>176043219
Magma isn't pathable, so if your entire surface, including the edges, has lava on it merchants just won't show up. It would be the same as bridge-walling the entire map edge. No merchants, no invaders, no migrants, no wildlife spawns that aren't flying.
You would need a whole lot of readily available magma and a lot of infrastructure to move it quickly. You would be racing against both evaporation and map edge runoff, and if you ran out or stopped moving more magma onto surface for even a short period you start losing the race. I doubt it's possible even on a 1x1 map, but that's no reason not to try. Good luck.

>>176043675
But, assuming I figure out a way to get it >1/7 on all edges, will it stay put?

In other words, say I make a giant tray with bridges holding the magma. I open this and flood the outer ring of the map to 7/7. Does it stay, or does it go? Is there any way to permanently create a lava moat around the outer edge?

>>176044060
If it's actually on the edge, then no it won't stay. It's still subject to the flow mechanics and will just spread offmap and disappear. Any tile of water or magma at >1/7 tries to reduce its depth by spreading to adjacent tiles with less depth, and the map edge will never provide depth to keep that from happening. The best you could do is use raising bridges to create a wall on the map edge and have a big bowl of lava for your fort's surface.

>>176043601
Pressurized water moves fast, yeah, but instantly is an exaggeration. /dfg/ has a weird fetish for melodrama when talking about water pressure.

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You may not like it, but this is what an elven civilization at peak performance looks like.

(They had 2 sites and 2 glorious golden ages where they managed to go 13 years without any ruler getting killed)

>>176040058
>>176040285
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=147937.0

>>176038623
where does this pic from?

>>176043070
Do it yourself, its not that hard (pun intended)

>>176047045
>Based on Meph's Cult of the Carp God for Masterwork.

Ignored

Alright Timbuk, this is probably the most important request I will ever make of you.
Craft for me an image of a confused/sad dwarf holding a plump helmet.
If you could have this picture sized for phone screens (1080x1920) I will love you forever.

>>176048287
I'm so fucking tired of his cult of personality.

apologists say that it's okay because he always gives proper credit.

however, when you hear people who use his stuff talk about it, they NEVER mention whoever he got the stuff from. they always talk about "Meph's mod" or "Meph's tileset".

in the end, the real modders get no credit whatsoever.

What files do you need to change in order to have your children start working at age 3?

>>176049207
make dwarves become adults at the age of three.

that's the only way.

>>176049189
Nothing to be done for it. Being pissed is just a waste of your energy. Ignore it and strike the earth.

>>176048287
>>176049189
Masterwork is shit. Bloated as fuck - the mod. It could have been a neat addition that merely increased the level of fantasy in the game, instead it decided to go totally bonkers and went for everything and the kitchensink.
Funnily enough most of the people complaining about DF's performance are using that piece of garbage. I mean, sure, 200 dwarves bog the main game down too, but Masterwork can barely handle its own embark.

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Guys, is it normal if my computer starts to lag after the world generation has gone past 100 years?
How long until Age of Myth is over?
My world history is set to long.

>>176050146
World generation is supposed to murder your computer. It simulates every character and nearly everything they do.

>>176048073
Just did, was hoping someone had put more time and skill into it however.

Created parts which can atleast be loped off, for both genders. a aperture/embedded snatch and a wang with a striking/latching attack

>>176050146
Completely normal, if it doesent lag it usually means that something is preventing the world from growing. (Usually a megabeast killing children of civs few years after they are born.)
If you want a world with long history just leave your DF on to generate a world while you go do something else.

Ages depend on many things, see http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Calendar for more info about them.

>>176050146
how big is your world?

for worlds that are medium, it's normal that th worldgen slows down after 80 years (assuming you have medium civs and sites).

most players don't play with long history. it doesn't necessarily make the world more interesting. in fact, it can make the world duller, as civs will die out and goblins become more dominant.

>>176050739
I'd like to add descriptors, have it work correctly with clothing/armor, lower thier target priority etc

Modanon here, what would you like to see modded into the game? The only things i wont do are ones that i cant do because the game mechanics wont allow me to make it.

Bump

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>>176052813
How about adding Moogles into the game as their very own civilisation?

How do you clean up the mess left over when reclaiming a fortress?

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I JUST SLEW MY FIRST MOUNTAIN TITAN

AS A MOTHERFUCKING ELF__

I'M SO DAMN HAPPY.

>>176043373
fuck, I dont remember the name, but some serious modder in the forums made something like that
it added sexual differentiations, and gave women breasts and hip modifiers too

I thought I had it written somewhere but my memory was wrong, what I had downloaded was a mod that fixed combat making it more realistic by making small tweaks to materials and tissues

>>176053414
Congra-
>Elf
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE-

Is it possible to have a creature who only has organs made of ice and the rest of them be made of flesh?

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>>176049559
oh that explain's a lot I went ahead & changed these in the creature_standard files

seems like my dwarfs stopped having ANY children at all after messing with it

>set up a QSP for worn clothes near a trading depot so I can sell all this junk
>it has been 3 season already and it's still being constantly filled
Textiles were a mistake.

Welp, time to use dfhack to remove this unkillable buffalo cow head hair from my fort. I'll do it later, I guess.

>>176053912
Why would you want that anon?
Sounds unnecessarily specific

>>176053936
It shouldnt affect anything other than the age they become adults. Did you directly edit your save or something?

>>176046285
>/dfg/ has a weird fetish for melodrama when talking about water pressure.
I thought I was the only one who realized

>>176054281
no I changed the vales then after genning a test fort,dwarfs just stopped getting married & having kids ;_;

>>176054281
>Why would you want that anon?
>Sounds unnecessarily specific

If I didn't care about the little things I wouldn't be a fan of Dwarf Fortress.

>>176046285
It was two or three clicks before the entire room was 7/7.

>>176049559
>become adults at the age of three
find a middle step
go full tibetan and make the children adult at seven
seems a lot, but most children are from 3 to 12, so it is ok

>>176054483
You didnt answer why you wanted them though. To answer your question, its possible to do but some organs may be hardcoded to always be of certain material.

>>176054820
>You didnt answer why you wanted them though.

I really don't have any reason beyond "because I think it would be cool"

>>176053912
would a creature made of ice melt in temperate regions?

>>176055015
Depending on the temperature, yes.

>>176055015
>>176055110
What if I gave them [FIREIMMUNE]?

>>175976894
>giant
>human
>mask
why does he wear a mask?

>>176055206
The problem isn't that it's burning, it's that it's melting. What you PROBABLY want is [FIXED_TEMP], which fixes their temperature to a certain amount, and set that a bit below freezing. Or you could use [HOMEOTHERM], if you still want them to melt if it gets TOO hot, but I'm not really sure how strong of an effect it is.

>>176055206
They would still melt from normal temperatures but be immune to creature fire attacks. If you want a creature that can resist a certain amount of heat i suggest checking out the very last few lines in dragon's raws and copypasting and modifying the lines to your liking.

>>176055908
>>176056063
All right, will try it out.

Whats the Top Gun of DF?

I always see Hammerdwarfs being mention as the ace of the forts

My perfect map just got rejected lads

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TFW I won't live long enough to see magic added to Dwarf Fortress.

>>176057010
guess it wasn't that perfect then

>>176057246
Not even Tarn will live that long

>>176056807
Most weapons have a niche where they outperform other weapons. Hammers are especially effective against armored foes close to dwarf size. That effectiveness has been diminished some by force translation and joint damage, though.

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>tfw you're just walking across the frozen sea when suddenly it all fucking melts and you drown.

>>176057246
>>176057396
It is the next update after relics you spergs

>>176057246
necromancy?

(I guess you could see this comment in two ways)

>>176057505
the other way around is worse

>>176052813
I would make a request, but answer a question first

The modding system allows to make a building where a person is carried and an effect or change is made on them?

>>176055908
>>176056063
>>176056337
>>176055015
>>176055206

Depending on what you want, the answer can go from simple to rather complicated.

If you want a creature that will never get damaged by any kind of heat or fire add [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] along with
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:100000][IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:100000]
[SPEC_HEAT:30000]
[SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
[PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
[MELTING_POINT:10000]

If you want a creature that has their entire body set to a certain temperature (affecting surroundings) use the [FIXED_TEMP] for permanent and [HOMEOTHERM] for temperature that will only exist as long as the creature is alive. Dont think these will affect how well the creature resists temperatures though. (Creature with fixed temperature set too high will burn itself to death and everything around it)

>>176056807
If we are talking about stats it really depends what you want.
Whips have the best armor penetration.
Two Handed swords are best for chopping off limbs.
Flails are best for breaking bones.
Pikes are best at stabbystab.

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>>176055015
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>>176056063
FBs and titans made of snow or ice don't melt, and blizzard men have been reported to have the same problem, although I haven't encountered the latter outside of a freezing biome. No reason to expect a mod-added creature would fare any worse.

>>176058069
FBs and Titans dont melt because they probably have modified ice/snow that wont melt at room temperatures. (would be pretty silly to have your FB die in two seconds of it invading your fort)

Blizzard men dont melt because they arent actually made of ice or snow even though their description says otherwise.

>>176058069
blizzard men aren't actually made of ice. I was under the impression that ice FBs melted, so I must've been mistaken.

>>176057615
Maybe anon is elderly, you dont know

>>176058057
>Whips have the best armor penetration.
>Flails are best for breaking bones.
These are both wrong. Whips have the lowest penetration value in the game, which is irrelevant anyway because blunt weapons' penetration value isn't used in their combat calculations. Whips were at their best in 34.11, when skulls were still really soft and pain was still really effective at making creatures pass out. They're still strong, but since then skulls were thickened, whips were made slower, and pain response was significantly nerfed. Hammers and maces will be a better blunt choice against most enemies now.
Flails are a contender for the objective worst weapon in the game, with only mauls potentially giving them a run for their money. They aren't best at anything at all except possibly extending fights well beyond any reasonable timeframe. Their massive contact area spreads their attacks' force out so much that you need to be ungodly strong just do enough damage to outpace the healing rate of the outer layers of tissue, which are all that you'll be damaging. Maybe you were thinking morningstars? They're really good at breaking bones for normal-sized humanoids, their penetration and contact area is right in the sweet spot.

I heard that dwarf therapist no longer works


how do you manage dworfs then

>>176059451
I don't even bother. I just use their default professions. Played that way ever since I started. I mean I could probably figure out how to assign jobs at this point but I'm just too lazy.

>>176059451
v-p-l

>>176057615
>relics
please use the official term, "artifacts".

"relic" is a very specific term used for important artifacts protected by religious orders. relics will be a part of the artifact release, but there will be a lot more than relics.