Dawn of War General /DoW/

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>Dropping a Rok in the first few minutes of the match

killing orks is fun

Hello.
I like this game.

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>>175897805

Same.

Shame thread is so dead.

get raped eldar nerd

>>175895985
Something about his armor looks really stupid... The chest to legs ratio reminds me of Buzz Lightyear

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>>175904639
Looking at an actual Dawn of War game, it seems the devs made the torso and the legs skinnier in dow3.

>>175907138
yes and it looks dumb af

>>175907138
God that looks like something straight out of a 90s flick's edgy kid's desktop.

>>175904497
>Everybody says Eldar OP
>Almost every game I watch has Eldar losing

What did I mean by this

>>175907476
they're a really titchy faction, like eldar should be by fluff. potentially really nasty, but require a lot of micromanaging and their low health means they're really unforgiving of fuckups

>>175907363
wew, that's some serious bantz.

This games is great. Too bad that stupid MOBA meme caught on, it's barely similar. It's much closer to the previous games than a fucking MOBA.

>>175909442
There are huge flaws with the multilayer and overall performance/bugs but the MOBA meme was just braindead shitposting. The collective ptsd caused by DoW2 and CnC4 was just too much for RTS and DoW fans alike .

>>175907751
I feel Eldar have a really hard time in the mid game. Their infantry is great for early harassments and they can build wraith guards and fire prisms for late game tanking, but it's they don't really have anything tanky in mid game engagements to maintain sustained combat without worrying about insta wipes. All the games I saw had Eldar fall apart from mid game pressures. It looks like if they can't push the enemy in their ass early on they will have a hard time around mid 2nd phase of the game.

People make fun of tacs all they want, but they are decently tanky enough around mid game to allow for sustained combat without worrying about quick wipes and can rape face with plasma rifles.

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>>175910416
Was CnC4 really an objectively bad game on its own right?

I know people have collectively shat on Supreme Commander 2, but I have heard people say it is a good RTS, but it was a horrible fucking idea to attach it to Supreme Commander 1.

I enjoyed the tone of the dawn of war 3 campaign as it seemed to match the feeling of the trailers pretty well in the sense that it's an absolute slaughter for all sides involved

But is it just me or are the blood Ravens just huge jobbers in this? They hardly seem to matter in the actual plot, less than even the knight house.

Granted I liked gorgutz a lot and him being the main show of the story was pretty cool.

All the macha shit was boring as fuck though

>>175911489
I really digged machas side of the story, but yeah the quests were fucking boring.

>>175911489
Eldar missions are a pain in the ass because the energy rates are so fucking low. I can make 6 Dark Reapers in the time frame that I can make a single Wraithblade (this is not accounting for the upgrades needed). I couldn't even afford to get banshees charge upgrades to afford any kind of vehicles. It really dampened the pace of the game and Eldar get the worst end of the stick.

So, there is no DLC? I'm thinking about buying it because while i love starcraft, but i suck at it, i need something more casual

>>175913592
nigga it came out last week. of course there's no dlc yet

>>175913641

That's a good thing, usually there is like 2 -3 dlcs at launch, i wouldn't buy the game if that was the case

>>175913592

There were some shitty preorder skins, that's it I think

>>175911782

I liked the idea of eldar having a good reason to fight each other but like >>175911893 said
The resource rate in eldar missions was so low and >>175910648 their mid game survivability so shit that you just end up waiting for resources to tick so you can make another dark reaper wave to support your wraithlord


Once you can get a few wraith units then it's gg but getting there takes so much time

>>175913753
Macha strikes me as a get shit done kind of elf. She doesnt have time to be smug, too busy getting shit done

>>175914218
and she definitely wants to hatefuck Gabriel

>>175910648
yeah. midgame you've got falcons and shadow spectres. both are meh

putting in fire dragons and/or jetbike guardians would probably shore them up pretty nice

>>175915163
They could use a brightlance. They dont have a reliable long range av platform

>>175915275
I know they're supposed to be transports, but putting in a wave serpent would probably give them a nasty MBT option

>>175895985
Dead thread. Is the game shit

>>175922428
Rampant shitposting and nitpicking is not doing it any good. Especially since normie faggots on steam forums actually believe it.

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Feelsgoodman

Now to get the rest.

Egh, I still cannot figure out what race I wanna main... I'm leaning towards eldar but idk.
Also, how do you rewind replays?

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>>175926914
>play eldar in 1vs1
>all the games end in 10~15min
>never get to level anything beside strike scorpions
Playing eldar is suffering

>>175922428
Game is great because there are so many different builds that are available to experiment with. It seems like they all are pretty viable, too.

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holy shit ork kommandos are fuck as fuck
>enemy is pushing on us hard, defeated our army and no approaching the turrets
>kommando finds a convenient scrap pile to detonate
>literally annihilates 90% of the enemy army
>what we have left cleans up and gains massive amounts of ground
before we meet more resistance
>kommando blows them up again and we roll through

>>175910416
DoW2 is good. Better than this crap. Glad I got a refund.

>>175928379
As much as i like DoW2 you are idiot and i feel sorry for you.

This thread needs to burn. Along with this putrid abomination of a game.

>>175929504
Thanks for your valuable input, have a nice day :)

Can i set orks to auto pick up scrap? By the mid of game i have so much of it and i don't know what to do with all this treasure.

We ain't dying tonight boys

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>people are starting to insult me for playing eldar

>>175931991
Elites can grab more scrap and get more killy. Some people claims that you can use scrap also as cover to your troops.

>>175910790
>Was CnC4 really an objectively bad game on its own right?
Yes

Which songs of the new soundtrack are your favorites?

>>175933758
Good, only gayboys play eldar

So we all agree the Trukk is the most fun non-elite unit, right?

>>175937432
>Trukking!
Yes.

>>175927916
>>175933758

I don't even play 1v1 anymore because of how gay that 1 eldar build with gates/dire avenger doctrine/scorpions is.
It is like protoss 4gate all over again.

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>>175936368
easily this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQvGuSHMbMc

>tfw activating waaagh tower

>>175926914

Great Job!

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How 2 counter Eldar as space marines

LAND SPEEDER SPAM WITH MULTI MELTA GO!

>>175934143
Yes, scrap and wreckage mitigates incoming fire until theyre destroyed. Wrecks also block infantry line of sight i think.

>>175940718
>eldar allows you to have resource nodes and survive long enough to get to vehicles
must be nice

Fuck Eldar

What's the consensus on Soulstorm? Been playing a lot of Dark Crusade lately and was thinking about getting SS if it dropped in price.

>>175942410
I remember everyone used to hate it now everyone jerks off over it.

>>175942410
It is basically the same thing just with slightly better balance and 2 more races.
>>175942873
Lots of newfriends everywhere these days and for them it was their first dawn of war. Naturally that means they like it best. Same with people suddenly liking DoW2.

>>175942410
Ironlore was a mistake

>>175942873
This and every other game after a sequel comes out

>>175943205
So campaign is basically a series of skirmish battles still. Guess I'll wait for it to hit $5 in a sale at some point since playing Sisters would be cool.

>>175943585
With a terrible backstory and awful cast characters.
>dat narrator
>general "100baneblades" stubbs
>STEEL RAIHN
>MEHTAL BOXES

at least we got good memes out of it

>>175944391
Makes me glad to be a shitter who usually sticks to playing AI skirmishes anyway.

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Is there anything out there that will scratch my itch for Skitarii, or just the Mechanicus in general?

The best thing I could find is a mod for soulstorm that's still in beta.

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>>175944391
>general "100baneblades" stubbs
Who was the only good thing of the singleplayer and he still got bested by Gorgutz.

>>175945109
there is a warhound model found in the files for dow3

>>175945109
They are a relatively new 40k army, although the lore existed for a while. Just have to hope DoW3 implements them.

>>175945227
>>175945769
Oh god I'll buy it full price if they do

>>175946540
>
~I'd do the same if they introduced Tau and or Skitarii. I don't know why they went for three races to start with and not a rounded 4, to be honest.

>>175947103
because people will pay for the 4th

>>175947103
If they put Tau, I want to have enphasis on the alien auxiliares. I want some Kroot and Demiurge Elites, for Emprah's sake.

>>175947852
Or at least a reason to use them unlike DoW 2 where pure tau is just easier and nice.

>>175947231
Yeah, probably. They bought extras in CoH2

>>175948167
>DoW 2
>Tau
???

>>175948167
>Tau.
>On DoW 2.
Did I miss something outside the Last Stand?

Best way to counter Howling Banshee spam with their full Doctrine support?

Their Charge just rips through squads, even ASMs.

>>175948315
>>175948352
I think the anon was talking about last stand

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>Friday 6pm
>7,866 In-Game
decent population but still,a heavy drop after only 7 days.

>>175948563
Scout grenades + flamer. But in reality, just have to hope that the eldar is really bad honestly. Flamer can get interrupted and/or silenced and all their other shit like scorpions and dire avengers under gate buff will shit all over your clever set-up.
Playing against good eldar players is literal suffering.

>>175948931
I don't know, he said pure Tau is easier than using auxiliaries, I don't remember the Tau in last stand having anything like that

>>175949208
Current multiplayer meta is fucking up the game hard. Don't have much desire to keep playing atm because of it and I image others feel this way too.

>>175949317
>>175948931
>>175948352
>>175948315
yeah, I fucked it, meant DoW. sorry boiz.

There is / was a mod for DoW2 that had Tau, though. Replaced IG I think but I never tried it.

>>175949208
Most of people only got it for SP just like other DOWs.

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why did they make speeders if they are absolutely awful at everything, riddle me this lads

>>175950345
>one of the best vehicles in the game
>awful
try again, faggot

>>175950345
i have never lost to any player using skimmer class vehicles ever anon, do tell how they are used effectively considering their cost.

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bump for canon soulstorm winner!

>>175950656
SM skimmer is the only one worth using. use it destroy LP/generators, infantry, other vehicles if you upgrade it. Obviously it isn't meant to be used to soak enemy fire. Just send your army one way and skimmers to harass. If your enemy has no resources you already won.

>>175950656
Team of 3 with multi melta upgrade zipping around to take out whirlwinds in the backlines or to fuck with the enemies LP and uncap their points. Their asscannon also wrecks eldar infantry shields, good for sniping jain zar is you ever catch them unsupported. Takes more micro because they dont last at all againts anything AT

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>>175951527
You seem to have posted the wrong image, anon.

>>175951610
Vipers are fine too as long as youre not fighting other eldar. Not as hard hitting as LS but the has very good range. Use reverse movement when fighting to keep them out of enemy fire.

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>>175951610
>>175951798

you could argue that if you are building them you already have enough power to plop out more dreadnaughts/razorbacks/tanks though , as due to the low hp pool they are a high risk target to as you guys say, any at

I didn't think they did 'enough' blowing shit up for the cost.

I do see the merit of splitting them as a node exploder detachment so I'll try that out at least.

I don't suppose anyone here has figured out how to make deffcopta's work on that note then?

>>175952392
Skimmers are meant to be used for harass early on or mid-game while you are upgrading your army. They aren't great at late game when you can afford dreads/tanks.
Deffcoptas don't seem to be good, even when upgraded with scrap.

>>175952392
Havent played much orks but from the campaign i think deffkopters are kinda trash. Maybe good for scouting to sight targets for ork artillery. I dunno

>>175953167
I can see building 1 or 2 for scouting/harass

>tacs getting buffs

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT

NERF POWER SWORDS
NERF ASSAULT LEAP
GIVE SUICIDE BOMMA A GLOBAL COOLDOWN FOR ALL TRUKKS
RAISE THE PRICE OF NUKES TO 5 POINTS BASELINE

>>175939681

>play eldar
>play vs eldar
>don't even make DA
>get dark reapers first thing instead

It's so funny watching DA drop

>>175955187
That and nerf scorpions/macha/weirdboy.
1 minute cd to bonesinger teleport at the start of the game
Most importantly nerf the fucking Wraithlord's Gate doctrine. That shit alone is so fucking broken.
>10sec cd, almost instant teleport IN TIER FUCKING ONE
>regens shields in combat
>boyz under waagh buff can't catch fleet of foot dire avengers

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>>175955475
>bonersinger teleports on them and force melee
>they eat an grenade later on

>>175951527

I am so fucking pissed about this

This game offers VERY little lore but they fucking mention this shit

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best comment if I've ever seen one

>>175955187
can you post source?, I'm retarded and can't find it

>>175959860
nvm undid my retardation, they implied that the patch with BALANCe will not be coming quickly.
expect more asm spam

>>175951527

Where did they mention the canon?

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>>175960860
>>175945138

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Why is she so cute

>>175963596

>whiskers

reference to 1d4chan?

>>175964856
Probably. The game is full of memes like that and >>175940349

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better play it now, soon there wont be anyone to play with

>>175968032

>went through the trouble of making an image

lol

>>175968032
>no RTS other than DoW3 on that list
Is it really that dead of a genre? Didn't think it was this bad.
Guess we should all stop wasting time and play successful games like shooters and singleplayer RPGs

Who else /indrid casts/ here?

>>175968659

I wish he would stop casting noobs

>>175968659
Who is that?

>>175968659

I've been following his DoW2 casts for years. He seems to have had the bad luck of only casting really shit DoW3 matches.

My theory is that DoW3 is actually just an extremely dull spectator sport. Fun to play? Maybe. Fun to watch? Paint dry.

>>175969210
He casted some tournament finals where the eldar player basically building-rushed the orks twice and lost

>>175969210

He just needs to cast good players, I've seen his casts and half the time the players sit on their asses when they should be pushing

>>175969408
>>175969210
It's the kind of thing that takes some time to start, I imagine. a couple weeks / months as people get comfortable and learn their hotkeys by heart, ala SC2.

or maybe nobody will pick it up to go pro, who knows.

>>175969210
I don't agree that it isn't fun to watch. All of the ESL tournaments so far were extremely fun as a spectator.

>>175970453
>pick it up to go pro
chances are pretty low, unfortunately. Relic doesn't have money to throw around for tournaments, like Blizzard, to make the game worth going pro for. It takes a lot of time and effort and that may be better spent playing SC2. I'd love that to be proven wrong though.

>>175971017
It doesn't have to be relic who sets up the pro-scene, in fairness - They just have to help it.
Replays and spectator abilities, Balance patches and making sure that they cater more towards the higher-end playerbase when balancing rather than letting decent / bad players dictate the flow.

Tournaments / scenes can be set up by third parties as long as relic and GW i'd assume are ok with it? GW might be the stickler there, though.

And in-game ranked ladders and tournaments with meaningful ranks - like, leagues challenger scene which is challenger level players against other teams hoping to go pro, get noticed or break into the 'mainstream' championship scene.

SC2 recently shit the bed and broodwar HD doesn't come out for another half a year or something, right? now would be a decent time to try and grab as many of those RTS players as possible.

>>175971807
That is true, Relic does need to support the game and put in observer mode at least. They need to really double down on maps and patches compared to support of previous DoW games. Blizzard has basically infinite money right now so they can have a huge team of people working on polishing the game and this is something Relic doesn't have.

It all is really about money. If there isn't a good pay-off for the game, no one is going to switch from SC or start seriously training. SC2 has much better tournament pay than ESL/ZOTAC community tournaments. Anon that posted that player count picture few posts up isn't wrong and playing dota/shooters would be better time spent since those games have tournaments that really pay. GW isn't going to give a dime to anyone, but maybe Sega will.

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ASSAULT DREAD IN THE THREAD!

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I have seen aloot people using Orc ultimate ability instanty on enemy without charging it before. I always keep some builder near battlefield to throw this shit away. In my recent games Orcs failed 80% ultimated because of that. Although they had weirdboy / stormboyz.

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>>175973401
I wish SM had a melee version of Venerable Dreadnought Elite. Really don't like the current one outside his ability.

>>175975345

Yeah b-b-but infinite plasma rifles...

>>175975345
I'm the opposite, I wish there was an Assault Cannon Dread.

>>175975857
Those are kind of a noob-trap right now. One grenade/knockdown/anything and do no damage while wasting a ton of resources. Not to mention that at 7 elite points he comes down super late and people only pick him for the ASM doctrine.

So, should I double down on the early game with macha and scorpions, take both wraith knights for a late push, or hope the wraithlord is enough to hold an edge in the midgame?

>>175976423
What modes do you play ? I play 2v2/3v3 lately and I was using Macha but I changed her for Jain Zar + Wraithlord/ One of Knights(ranged one is better in my opinion)

>>175976423
In 1v1, it is all about winning the early game to take the map, get resource advantage and destroy shields to get free money. This is why everyone plays the gay scorp/wrathlord/dire avenger/banshee build.

For team games you can do whatever since your teammate can back you up, but same applies still.

>>175976728
I've got one more SP mission before u start dealing with multiplayer, but those are the elites that seem to be solid. Spiders weren't great I. Campaign, kyre's abilities look like crap, and I feel like Jain's too flimsy and her ranged attack is too slow but I could be really wrong on that

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>>175976939
Jain is really usefull + she gives this sweet invisibility for Banshees. When you combine this with their Quick Strike abilitty from upgrade building they are very strong in early-mid game. Yeah I tried spiders in multi and didnt liked them. Kyre is very annoying and should be nerfed. He can shot this little tornado and then pull all enemies in range into this ( EVEN FUCKING VEHICLES) and then pull them all at his location. When this is done he can start shitting at this blob with granades ability. I havent seem much people using him but when I did it was annoying. But your builds are not bad. This double Wraithknight is strong in 3v3 and maybe in 2v2 if you manage to drop them both. If you choose Macha and Scorpions it's not bad either because many people bring 2x early Elites. If you do this you need to take advantage of that because if some took highier priced Elites and you gave him window to summon them and support them with army you gonna have hard tme dealing with some Termi/Mega armored nobz with Scorpions and Macha.

>>175976346
same man
thule ww@

LOADIN UP MORE SCRAP FO MY SHEEWD

>>175909442
>Add garbage moba elements
>Anons feel the need to defend their shitty game

>>175982004
Where are these from, Anon?
>plz be game files

>>175949786
I only did 5 missions before I stopped and went multiplayer.
Should I finish off the missions?

>>175986014
Yes.
They give you lots of skulls and exp.

>>175985882

no way the look outdated

>deathwatch kill team leader has an ameritard tacticool chris kyle american sniper beard
????
since when do space marines have beards? shit looks retarded

>>175985882
yes, it is from game files. You can see these in the background of some campaign missions.

>>175986453
He is a Space Wolf, they keep their beards. Other marines shave because they are civilized.

>It's a SM spams asm with assult leap episode

pls kill me

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>>175985882
>>175986373
>>175986574
Baneblade model looks like the one from DoW2 Valkyrie probably too.

>>175986342
Do you get much more skulls and exp doing them on hard?

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the in-game flamer model on the tacs looks really good

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>Balance

>Later this month, we’re rolling out our first balance patch. It’s too early to give specifics but right now we’re looking carefully at units that players are skipping over (looking at you, Tactical Marines…)

LETS GO TACS BABYYYYYYY

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>>175987191

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>>175986750
https://community.dawnofwar.com/discussion/12033/datamine-cut-content-baneblade-landraider-warhound

>>175987803
>>175982004
there are chaos models too

what if the expansion is some mega huge shit and we get necrons, chaos, and IG all in one expansion? plus last stand and a fully featured campaign with all 3 of the new factions?

>>175987156
More skulls for sure. Most elites are 6-8 after playing through campaign on hard. Some, notably Taldeer, bugged out and are still at 0, but not a big deal.

>>175987191

They don't have it out unless they use the ability

>>175987803
I see people agree with what I said. Baneblade looks like the one from DoW2. Warhound is from Dark Millenium there was even similar one in trailer. Also Warhound it bigger than Knight units so I doubt they will add something that big as it would be OP as fuck , expensive as fuck and will probably block your army as IG will (if it will be released) have alot of units on the field.

>>175988148

I think they are there just as background props

>>175988148
Yeah it is possible that they used some models from previous DoW. Definitely not Dark Millenium since that stuff was made by a completely different company.
Another thread with few more things:
https://community.dawnofwar.com/discussion/11669/warhound-titan-baneblade-and-other-goodies-in-worldbuilder

>>175987916
I can see them adding Necrons and Chaos next expansion, but wouldn't mind IG also. Lots of chaos assets/sound files are already in the game if you play the campaign.

>>175988595
I am still not convinced. And with 2 units (let's count this titan in) you can't build army roster as someone said there. I don't know Warhound is too big and Baneblade really looks like made on DoW2 engine not dow 3.

>>175987191
Flamer only appears when flamin. That said, why is it an ability though? The deathwatch flamer isnt. I've got enough shit to micro as it is

>>175988595
>Chaos, IG, Necrons all released together with a new campaign as an expansion

I'm only setting myself up to be let down. It's to good for this sinful world.

>tfw no new post
rts is ded

>>175997849
deathwatch flamer is an elite
and can't slow with the doctrine
and also does less damage
that's why

>>176002432
>rts is ded
That is because it requires skill to play, unlike other games....
People love to play easy games.