/stsg/ - Starsector General

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We’re free ships and crews and we go where we please,
and we’ll haul you to hell and no more!

Why are Diable and Neutrino ships so weak?

Why does every bitch about Ironman being "unfair" because you can get ambushed by much larger fleets and can't always avoid bad situations or bad matchups.
That's intentional. The same shit happens in Mount and Blade.

And it's okay because you can fucking RUN AWAY. Retreating is a thing that you can do and you can often do it without losses if you defend your slower ships instead of making a beeline to the edge of the map

Beagles video is what got me to buy this game and I think it's very good for the OP post, Alex also refers to it (and a couple others) on the FAQ page itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTCpVY80Bpc

>>175862078
Because it's an early version of the game and a lot of the mechanics are not fleshed out.

>>175861469
so until blackrock comes out, is mount and blade actually good

>>175862049
That's Diable's shtick. Half decent but small shields, good mobility, decent medium-long range weapons. Vapor's fucken awesome because of it. The cruisers do suffer because of it.

>>175862275
Sure, why not?

Play it with Gekokujo to taste magnificent Nippon steel.

>>175862078
It takes a really long time of doing nothing to fly from one end of the sector to the other. Often you just want to let the autopilot do it while you do something else and not have to worry about getting caught by sudden pirates. It would okay if it bleeped and paused when a moving, unidentifed contact appeared.

Pretty sure about 80% of playtime is now spent flying to an outer system.

>>175862049

Diable and Neutrino fleets require proper compositions to make up for inherit weaknesses. A properly fielded fleet will take away weakness and enhance strengths of ships. With that said, there are some Diable and Neutrino ships that can solo fleets.

>>175862275
Actual M&B? Yes. Very. Firearms sort of ruin it because it's not a great shooter but the swordfight mechanics hold up and no other game does 100 vs 100 fights (or bigger) like it while still being enjoyable as a 1on1 fighter.

Try Warband if you're not sure which to pick.

>>175862275
I consider mount and blade to be one of the best games ever made

>>175862540
>>175862690
>>175862694
cool

>>175862078
What I do is if I don't win the fight the first time, I will reload and try to disengage instead. I think that's fair. I take my shot and see if it hits, if not, I take my losses and continue playing instead of starting over from scratch.

>>175862589
>could have reacted to avoid pirates
>oh wait I can't when I'm mashing shift because hyperspace is fucking boring
>and I still have to slam "1" to confirm I want to enter/leave a system
There should be a high end sector to sector jumpdrive, the flight times do get ridiculous.

>>175862990
You can play that off as running a computer simulation of the fight. If you lost in the simulation then you assume you would have lost in reality and go for the disengage option.
If you won in the simulation then it was actually an ender's game moment.

>>175863140
Works for me. I just really hate starting over. And I know you can keep playing after a defeat but that's just wrong and everyone knows it.

>>175862589
>>175863020
Are you guys just not using Sustained Burn? That shit should be on at all times.

Also I could be wrong but flight times to outer stars feel about as long as they used to be in 0.7 because you didn't have it (and were dodging nebulas/hyperstorms). In this you just get the skills to not slow down in nebulas and just hold shift and travel in a str8 line to preserve fuel. Well I do at any rate.

>>175863304
You can also enable Dev mode (in settings.json) which allows you to use space bar to "disengage" from text prompts; it gives you a couple of seconds to move away.

Far from ideal but if you don't want to deal with a feature that's working as intended then that's what you got.

>>175863436
>hueg fleet chasing me
>run into a tiny sensor contact that you fail to sense because smol
>oh no i'm now engaged in a battle w/ them and have to fight both fleets as allies

>>175863668
I approve

>out of fuel and not far from the inner worlds
>1200 supplies so i'll be fine to sit here and distress call enough fuel to get back
>1100 supplies and an entire cycle later still stranded
>moved a tiny bit closer into a system i haven't explored but there was nothing there to help
>distress calling on cooldown the entire time
>only had 4 fleets show up
>3 pirates and 1 persean league who is hostile
>destroy them all and get about 40 fuel from each fight
>have to scuttle almost my entire fleet for enough fuel to make it just barely halfway back so i can drift into an inner system
>massive battle with persean league as soon as i'm in their system as i make a mad dash to the independent planet
>fend off 70 some ships 3 of which were capital ships with just my paragon and astral
>independent planet has about 100 fuel including the black market
>barely enough to get to tri tach space
>fly across the system to jump, dodging massive persean league fleets
>jump and drift my way home
W E W
E
W

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>>175863987
I don't know how people run out of fuel so often.

The english in the Neutrino mod is absolutely terrible.

Pretty ships, tho.

>>175864673
Not him but tbf, the only reason I don't run out of fuel more often is because I restock exclusively at Sindria. If I restocked anywhere else, I'd probably run the markets dry same way he did, with as much as I'm consuming. Battleships, it turns out, drink about as much as 60's muscle cars.

>>175865173
neutrino ships are not pretty to be honest

>>175865173
there need to be more markets so i can actually buy the battlecruiser capital aka the only decent-looking one

>>175863668
Good because you used the sc1 portrait

paragon or astral, which is objectively a better flagship to you

>>175865684
ONSLAUGHT

>>175865684
ONSLAUGHT

>>175865795
>>175865734
>using a ship literally made out of 80% rust

>>175865684
>>175865734

Onslaught actually wins 1vs1 against the Paragon. Nonetheless I actually go with the Paragon because it's a perfect flagship once you stack a ton of Tachyon Lances on it.

>>175865684
Astral loaded up with Sparks.

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>>175865684

Neither.

>>175865884
>being a fucking pussy who doesn't ram his enemies to death

>>175865684
A flagship should be a carrier.

>>175865920
paragon does not lose one point of hull points in the sim with the presets

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Never should'of come here!

>>175866339
Do you have a Todd variant?

I try to add description but holy shit it not working and I do not even know why.
Fuck this shit.

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Does this game let me have my own fleets and factories and take over sectors and start a trade empire like in X3? This is important.

>>175861469
Is there any 0.8a mod that has good low-tech ships like Tore Up Plenty?

>>175867285

>Does this game let me have my own fleets
Yes.
>and factories
Soon.
>and take over sectors
Maybe soon.

It will problably not be a X game but rather Star Control with features from X. For all intents and purposes consider it to be Mount&Blade with all its features but in space.

>>175867285
No, not yet. Just one fleet.

Play Space Rangers, Evochron and Reassembly.

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good fucking lord that was satisfying even though it was overkill

why is tempest the best flagship on the planet?

>>175867501
>Soon
In a year if we're lucky

>>175867285
It'll have all of that Soon™.

>>175867406

None that has been updated. Everyone is waiting for 0.81.

Interstellar Imperium has semi-lowtech ships, and that pirates mod by Cycerin does a good job as well.

>>175865684
Paragon's the strongest ship in the game by a rather wide margin. Especially when you're talking about AI controlled ships.

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>>175866419

>>175867740
Is there any information about what's going into .81 or any release date?
Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find it mentioned on the forum.

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>>175866339

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Final comparison of light carriers.
>Drower will be exclusive to Perseans
>Condor to Independents and Pirates(?)
>Donkey to Luddic church
>Mora will be Hegemony Overdrive Carrier(fuck damper field)
>Heron will serve Diktat, maybe Perseans(too)
>Cerberus light carrier(I bay) is planned for bounty hunters and pirates

>>175868024
>STOP I SURRENDER
>gets back up
>NEVER SHOULD'VE STOPPED

>>175854002
Independence War 2, X:3, and Escape Velocity Nova

>>175868304
Transcendence, Freespace 2 for muh mechwarrior green UI elements and a plot ripped off by BioWare

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>>175868002

>AI wolf is so bad it cant even defeat a Shepard
all is lost

>>175868304
I see I-War 2 , I click lik... Oh. Well, I send you a mental high five then.

>>175868935
There desperately needs to be a way to set the AI for ships. Either through psuedo-officers or something else. Non-aggressive/reckless combat ships are useless. They'll literally overload the enemy and go away without dealing the finishing blow.

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shaping up nicely

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JUST AS I DID THIS I GOT A FATAL FUCKING NULL

FIX YOUR SHIT YOU DUMB SLAV CUNT

>>175869403
3 out of every 5 times, when I personally stick around to try to land the killing blow after overloading the enemy, some other cunt kills me. Either I overload from the flux cost of dealing that damage or some stray missile comes out of its ass and hits me.

>>175869685
Shields are too small on all Neutrino ships.

I want my 360 shields. Shield extender mods attached to all my ships. 360 or nothing.

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>>175868780
sounds like it'll be out soon but I want it now

>>175869685
>Uses mod known for bugs
>Blames dev for crash
Sure...

>>175869734
I'm talking about even in 1v1 situations where other objectives and threats aren't even a factor. Ever go through most of a battle, check a map and see one or more of your high-end frigates fucked off to the edge of the map with some shitty frigate that it should have no issue killing? That's literally because it passed up on at least 3 free kills in the last 2 minutes.

>>175869685
was it something along the lines of "cannot cast missile" or some such?

>>175870079
>not blaming the person who decided to use java

>>175870079
according to the neutrino dev, its a bug caused by the vanilla MIRV missile AI.
"When a MIRV targeted to a figher, if the 2nd stage separate after the tageted fighter landed. that will crash.
Since this is a vanilla bug so either I write a new custom AI or Alex fix the MIRV AI can fix this. (And I already make phase missile system AI skip fighers in the released mod so that crash is really rare, but still can happen.)

Well, I will report this bug and think about a custom AI."

Can I rename factions. I want my Union, Empire and Nazis instead of Persian, Hegemony and Diktat.

what is the best ship to GO FAST IN

and/or what's a good Tempest loadout
obviously thrusters, injection, and overrides but what else

>>175870291
I would concede my mistake if there was any fighters around in his screenshot. There is none though so this one is probably not on the dev.

>>175870790
could be 2 different bugs. it'll probably be something that gets ironed out in 0.8.1a

>>175867526
Tempest is overrated expensive trash

>>175871006
>expensive
>get millions for free by murdering space kikes

anon?

>>175870934
The best outcome, no doubt about that.

How do you even get capital ships without waging war against one of the major factions?

>>175871342
find a derelict capital ship, or find one on an independent market

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Fatal: Null on start

>update GPU drivers
>update Java runtimes

Still doesnt launch

Anyone got an idea what else i can try?

this game is so fucking frustrating

>>175871547
How so?

>>175871721
you aren't allowed to make a single mistake
not one
one mistake and it's over, all of it

>>175871471
Crack it properly

Also all current mods pretty much suck, I don't want more ships I want more features. Gonna go back to vanilla.

>>175871765
that's not strictly true senpai

>>175871765
Well quick saves solve that problem.
Unless you mean in battles.
If it is in battles go with a sturdier breed of ship.
The hegemony has lots of ships that can tank a lot of mistakes.

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>when another ship steals your niche and does it better than you
Is there a more JUST ship?

>Better beginning mod
>Starting ship includes a Tempest

Wew laddie.

>>175872147
Centurion needs to come back as a starting ship for the newbies

>>175871765
Not really. I play exclusively on ironman and do just fine. Losing a ship or two or three isn't the end of the world. Especially now that there are more ways to earn money than just bounties.

What's your problem exactly?

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>2 Colossus freighters cost only 2 more supply per month than a single Atlas to maintain
>you lose 200 cargo but gain 300 crew over the Atlas
>you burn 4 less fuel per light-year
>you also potentially get 8 burn without a tug


So much for 'brutal economic efficiency'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qnOjfdbMw

>>175872147
In 0.72 you started with a Scarab.
A fucking Scarab.

>>175872256
Is Wolf not enough? The phase skimmer is incredibly good

>>175872836
The Centurion allows for more mistakes, and newbies probably phase skim right into trouble

>>175872147
Why do we even need a starting loadout mod?
It's not like the game starts us with 10k and 40 supplies anymore.

You have enough cash to get whatever common frigate or destroyer you want.

>>175873286
Even without that, one survey mission will net you an easy 50k.

>>175872601
Brb buffing Atlas capacity to 2500.

>>175872601
Yeah, but then you lose two fleet slots instead of one

>>175872116
Who steals what?

>>175874983
Falcon was supposed to be the fast cruiser capable of quickly repositioning and darting in and out of fights, but now the new aurora does it way better than it with the new ship system it has

>>175871765
That is not true.
Also I mostly put fleet and flagship on autopilot and just watch.
very comfy.

What are some good ships to keep an eye out on to use a flagship earlyish on in a game?

I have like 300k off survey missions and want to round out my fleet a bit. Currently swapping between a mule and drover.

>>175875265
Aurora is a cruiser tho, it compares to the Eagle, not the Falcon. The XIV you have there is even slower than the default.

>>175875827
Falcon with Phase Lances is underrated

>>175875827
For a flagship, just pick the ship you find the most interesting and that you can pilot effectively.

List of programming languages faster than Java:

C++
Swift
Go
Rust
C
Ada 2005
Chapel
C#

>>175876215
Gamemaker.

>>175875827
Mora if you're into the fighter meme otherwise either the Aurora or the Eagle. Both kick ass with phase lances like this guy suggests >>175875998

>>175875827

Go double Heron, for 6x Fighters, make sure you've got explosive or hell even EMP equipped on said fighters. (Thunder *Rumbler* Variants are great, if you're using the respective mod)

Then grab something agile as fuck for whatever given class of ship you want to use.

300K is a good amount to build a fleet core.

>>175876065
I like how "Flagships" in the mods usually have a minor OP surplus or something.

Really helps the idea of an actual flagship.

>Wish diable would make a "swift" battlecruiser-tier carrier with low army, above-average shielding and good battlecruiser appropriate turret mountings.

I got a Maelstrom with a pair of Raven's on it. Dear lord I love those things.

>>175876215

Nigga Alex is probably like a 45 Year Old slav.

We should be surprised he even could code let alone get something resembling a game on it.

>>175875994
Falcon is also a Cruiser.

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Someone make a new waifu portrait pack.

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>>175877175
Nope.
Why I should.

>>175876437
Alex is bad at exception handling.

Alex is bad at staying within bounds.

Alex is bad at asset management.

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>>175877386
You could just share that one:^)

>>175877386
these won't work, they're not 128x128 pixlols

>>175877386
>power dolls

Good taste anon

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>>175877508
They will be.
>>175877495
I could.
>>175877559
Fellow gentlemen and philosopher I see.

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quick post what your inspiration for ship names is

you DO name your ships, don't you?

>>175877495
I thought that was a penis in the thumbnail

Do note that 256x256 portraits also work.

>6 Daggers on a Astral

This seems unfair.
When I can actually get them to focus a target there is nothing that isn't locked and full flux, if not dead outright.
Especially if the Astral gets fairly close so it's 18 Torpedo every couple seconds.

Are there are bombers that are even stronger than daggers?
I saw some that cost 28 but I didn't manage to salvage them. Also don't think I could possibly use 6 of those without having to leave the Astral with no weapons.

>>175877935
any size as long as same width and height work I think

>>175878232
>daggers
>not sparks

>>175878326

I don't even know what those are.

>>175878326
Give me the quickrundown on "sparks"

>>175878232
trident bombers, come in pairs of two and have two torpedoes each, can still fit a couple squalls on there with them

>>175878393
>>175878429
they're [REDACTED]

>>175878393

They're REDACTED fighters that're equipped with double Burst PD Lasers

And I think they've got both Advanced Optics & Expanded Magazines for larger range engagement & more burst per volley.

I think they also come either 6 or 7 to a wing.

>>175878438
>>175878462
>>175878543

Guess I should finally find one of those bases.

Where are all the orange and red beacons at, I cant find any.

>>175877868
neutrino good?

>>175878429
Don't use them. They make all encounters absolutely ___EASY___.

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>>175878758
yes

>>175878758
it's got ups and downs, if you don't build against the weaknesses their ships have you can get SUPER fucked up

all their big ships have very tiny shields (except for the Mammut obviously) and a lot of the smaller ones have weird weapons placements

but the phase ships are fun, and the missle destroyer/missle capital are both enjoyable

>>175879036
how so?

>double game speed with the speedhack in cheatengine
Holy shit space battles are glorious now. Missiles fly fast, everything reloads quick, shots look like they have impact, shit blows up quicker and everyone and everything just moves so much faster.

>>175879078
it's not

>>175879078
It adds more variety try it if you don't like it you can always uninstall it.

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>>175879108
Speed engine works with it?
Glorious.

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>tfw bodying an onslaught at standoff ranges

>>175879170
>>175879154
I just want stuff that is moderately vanilla friendly

>>175879405
Why ECM package and not the one that buffs your missiles?

>>175879412
out of all the vanilla friendly factions, only shadowyards has been updated

>>175879405
what the fuck is this ship

>>175879467
Decreasing enemy range, most of my cruisers/destroyers have ECM

Maybe I'll switch, I don't think ECCM affects sabots too much; they only travel about halfway before it becomes an unguided rod

>>175879749
The most aestheticc missile boat there is

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>>175877175
Some random anon made this a while back.

>>175880143
Does Kanna-chan eat space ships?

>>175880143
Most of these lolis arent sci-fi enough

>>175876682
Yeah, a "Light" Cruiser. Shit is barely any better than a destroyer if at all.

>>175880143
Those poor AIs need a hug and a head pat.

Except for 3. 3 needs to die.

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>>175877175
I just need Tri-Tachyon, I want some mecha lolis or full mecha but I only get gundam.
I'm using one art style for faction by the way.

Guide to making ships? Like adding them to the game and AI can use them. I don't care for factions I want more ships.

>>175880789
>pirates get the best portraits

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>>175881227
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THESE STATIONS

IVE ONLY EVER FOUND TWO AND THEY BOTH MURDERED ME LONG LONG AGO

>try out mod
>the ships are strong
>the equipment all sucks unless used with the mod's ships
I hate this.

>>175880789
you plan to upload this anon when it's done?

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some places have good-ass names

Whats your guys' Onslaught loadout? This things a beast but I dunno if I'm using it right. Most of my medium turrets are thumpers because they look awesome. Got some HVD with the built in things and just mauler and hellbore cannon on the two large slots.

>>175881658
What mod senpai?

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I finally found how to turn off that fucking commission system, and have the factions behave like the independent: you only need relations to buy their shit.

Just find the factions file in pic related, change the highlighted line to false and save it.

I can finally have fun again

Do this for every faction you want the stuff off

I got some Sparks.
They don't appear to be bombers.
Did someone mix up the names? You guys were saying they were super crazy bombers.

Sparks are only 8 OP. They any good?

What are the odds that he starts working on a semi-3D Starsector 2 before this one is even finished?

>>175883353
Run Simulatio[n]

>>175883353
They don't need bombs. They will shred cruisers with those little rapid-fire PD weapons alone.

>>175883645
>>175883750
I wanted torpedos though.
I'll use them on my fighter carriers, but I still want more torpedo spam.

>>175883750
Death by many cuts.

>>175883869
>>175883353
tridents are the bombers, tritach got them

Do the Remanent fleets respawn?

>enemy Mora with nothing but Talons
>fight has been going on for over 8 minutes
>fighter replacement: 100%
hahaha what a fucking joke

I'm a new player and I felt like I was constantly running out of fuel. I recently picked up a tanker because I realized they have large fuel capacity and things have been going smoother.

Can anyone make another recommendation for ships to pick up or goals I should seek out like that? I feel like I am still really struggling with this game and any basic tips on things (like weapons, ships, specific kinds of missions) I should keep an eye out for would really help

>>175883126
Diable, for one.

wihtout dynasector or whatevers left of ss+, mod factions and their ships/weapons dont mingle and unless you are hostile wiht them, you wont fight any of their ship right?

>>175884420
just save often and do the discovery yourself

>>175884420
freighters carry cargo, which is how you make money. always good to have em on hand

>>175884420
medusa, tempest, dominator, heron, all very good ships

medusa is the best destroyer there is with it being fast and good dps, tempest is same for frigates and has a drone that disables enemy engines and can chase down almost anything, dominator is a cruiser with massive amounts of armour and good for ramming into combat, heron is really good mid sized carrier right now

Are there some options to change the visuals of sensors? Like having them always visible

Is there some crazy ass IBB-Tier Super Neutrino ship in the recent 0.8A release? Someone posted a picture of it.

The fucking thing required "Corporate Access & 25,000 Supply" apparently.

>>175884420
Always good to role with the destroyer-sized combat freighter and tanker.

Take survey missions for good cash.

>>175883034
Devestator Cannons upfront with everything else being frag PD.

Fighters can't touch you and you're basically a melee blender.

I want to do a pirate run but I can't be assed to spend hours doing pirate missions while ducking every pirate I see.

Is there an easy way to just set my reputation to 100?

>>175877745
>Ring of Red portraits

PLEASE ANON PLEASE

>>175885478
There used to be a starting option but the best way now is to just change the settings desu

>>175884679
>>175884948
>>175885176
Thanks guys

One other question I had: If I find a derelict ship in really bad condition, is it most profitable to recover it and sell it, recover fix it and sell it, trash it, or just use it until it breaks?

>>175885650
selling ships isn't worth it at all, restoring ships d mods cost more then new ones so only do it on rare ships

Is there a way of remove the original portrait without modify the core files?

>>175885650
You salvage for weapons, supply and fuel (salvage, not strip), you only recovery shit that actually plan in using and only restore rare ship that can't be obtained easily or otherwise

Is a pirate run actually doable? Feels like you'd be making no money and surviving off of just what you can salvage.

>>175886984
Attacking convoys and selling crap on the black market can be very profitable, especially if they carry heavy machinery/rare ore.

>>175883130
Thanks cunt, that system is retarded.

what the fuck is it with those god damn remnant ships? is it the sadistic anti piracy measure or are they fucking supposed to outkite even my wolves?

>>175883130
Nice. I didn't like practically be forced to join a faction just to get the big ships.
I know there's a possibility to salvage them and sometimes the independents sell an onslaught, but that's far too rare.

Also, what foul eastern european language is that?

>>175887626
Yeah nah they do that, I think the anti-piracy thing is fuckhuge fleets will come out of nowhere or something.
REDACTED have big fleets in orange and up beacon zones though, and their Glimmer-classes just flicker about everywhere. You need to get some fighters.

>>175887626
You're going to love remnant battlestations if you're having trouble with the ships.

>>175887654
Looks like hung_aryan

>>175885650
Recovering a ship is generally not profitable, given that you'll typically sell a frigate for less than a thousand bucks -- even if fully repaired, which is probably worth more in supplies than you'll get back from the sail.

That said, recovering ships as cheap cargo containers is not a terrible idea. You can always scrap them when you don't need them anymore and get a middling amount back.

I'll often just recover things and send them in as combat distractions using whatever spare guns I happen to pick up off the ground.

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For some reason, i think i should not touch these derelicts

>>175883130
thanks anon

>>175888326
You should. Teal fleets are totally cool with it.

>>175888326
Touch them, anon. Explore their hidden depths.

>>175868034
>2 fighter bays for 10 supplies/month
Literally making it better by far than any other carrier.
Shouldn't it have a worse efficiency than any non-dedicated carrier?
I would bump it to 15, so it is slightly more efficient than the condor but less than the drover

How do you make carriers run out of fighter recovery rate?
I swear sometimes they are regaining fighter recovery while I continually destroy

>>175889172
Just kill a lot of fighters. Deck crew loses their shit when they need to replace more than 2/3's of a wing.

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>>175887654
correct:>>175887832

>>175871085
>Fighting space jews instead of being good goy.
Anon i sell stuff to tri-kikes and I'm a richest man in the galaxy. Good things about tri-kikes is that you don't need a commission to made money with them.

>Tri-kikes anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnSGz8vW0U

>>175889229
>after runing out of pilots the crew is conscripted into the flying deathtraps

And thats how Mora derelicts are made

>>175889318

Someone should recreate that video (at least the non-starwars bits) with starsector footage.
Paragon looks amusing similar to the jewish star ships.

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>>175889495
They truly are behind everything.

I have a shamefur confession to make: I think I'm a Tri-Jew.
I sell all my shit to Tri-jews.
I buy most my shit from Tri-jews
All my ships are tri-jew. Except my own, an Onslaught XIV, who would tell me to fuck off if it could talk.

Wat do? I can't live without muh lazors and speed. Slow is fucking boring.

>>175889725
That's just how it is. You need the best ships and they have the best ships.

>>175889725
Embrace the jew and wAIfu cores

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>>175877175

>space elves

Thanks for reminding me perfection exists yet is unreachable.

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>>175889725
I've made this for you anon don't be sad.

>>175883750
>spark cloud covers a trio of frigates
>seconds later there is only drifting debris
It feels almost wrong

>>175891094
needs a onslaught in there

>>175887794
not trouble, just tired of alt tabbing while the ai kites itself into a corner. though now that i got some advanced fighters and bombers they are easy. and i already got rekt real good by a station, that dps, mamma mia.

>>175887417
Comission wouldnt be so bad if the faction you join would actually offer support for you. Just helping you pay for your fleet's maintenance with free supplies and fuels depending on your performance in BTFO of their enemies would go a long way, and the chance to go up in ranks and getting a better pay the higher you are

Daily reminder to activate Sustained Burn immediately after activating Transverse Jump.

>>175891980
Fucking pussy

>>175892027
Fine, waste a day.

>>175881658
Diable ships are weak as fuck.

>>175892758
and still they reached the finals in the AI tournament

>>175893351
Diable heave a tremendous staying power and can pull some powerful punches. When enemy exposes himself.

What do I need to do to find orange and red warning beacons reeee

>he doesn't field an armada of freighters hungry for fuel/supplies
>all ships destroyed gets glued to the main flagship, a horror to behold

>>175893525
fuel

>>175886984
You can see merchant fleets at stations and planets stocking up on goods, attack them.

>>175886984

Very doable, you can camp in asteroid belts near stations/hyperspace nodes in dark mode waiting.

I'm attempting to reallocate memory according to the popular hot-to guide on the forums, but I can't install java7. Every attempt just gives me a message saying it's already installed. As far as I can tell, the only java folder I have is in C:\Users\anon\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java
There's nothing in program files or elsewhere

>>175894540

read the guide properly.

Fuck this slow ass Dev.

>>175893351
>AI tournament
>on an older version

Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>175894616
>Step 1: Download and install 64-bit JRE 7 for your operating system here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html.
I can't even install jre7 to get to the rest of the steps. Do I not have a 64bit OS? Dxdiag says otherwise. I thought I might have already had the correct jre folder int he Starsector folder but editing the vmparams file causes the game launcher to not even start up.

>>175894731
Make your own, anon.

It can't be that hard.

Daily reminder that this game is more than 7 years old.

>>175895876
What does the dev even do that takes up his time to develop more.

Also unfortunate that if he'd made this game now he could cash in on ez kick-started us like 'indie' devs

>>175896035
i mean hes doing all this in java so i figure >7 years to get a product that doesnt run like fucking garbage is expected

>>175896035
Treats it like a kind-of part-time job where he spends one or two hours a week on development, maybe, if he feels like it. Some weeks he might really be into it and work a whole 5 or 6 hours.

>>175892758
Versant class is easily better than any other ship with the same or better fuel/supply specs.

Anyone know offhand how many wanzers were in each wing with previous Diable releases?

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Hey, a new trailer is out:
>>>/wsg/1672233

I don't know how people get bored of this game so fast. It might just be my own autism but Im at least 50 hours in and still have fun messing with fleet comp. (currently working on all conquest fleet).

>>175896895
Wow, a good frigate. Whoop de fucking do.

>>175896107
That's not how it works, anon. Performance goes down as you add features.

Besides, the Java is slow meme is a meme.

Your most significant optimization steps for working around the limitations of a language like Java is to pool objects (to avoid garbage collection hits) and minimize small allocations (since everything is initialized in the heap). JITs are very good at counteracting a lot of the other limitations, and that generally is felt at start-up, not typical run time (this is probably why the game takes so long to start up, despite it being a small game).

Likewise, many long-term native (C or C++) projects will inevitably implement many of the same performance-robbing quality-of-life features that high-level VM'd languages like Java have. Except, you're typically better off putting your trust in the built-in data structures and optimizations of code monkeys long past, unless you are a literal Carmack and are able to 0x5f3759df on a regular basis.

>>175895397
Do you have the jr7 inside the java folder in C: program files?

>>175897997
Not to my knowledge, no.
My C: drive is where I have windows installed. I keep Starsector on an additional drive, G; drive, which also doesn't have jre7 in it.
Which with my novice understanding of computers is still weird, since attempting to install java gives me errors saying java is already installed.

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I'm stuck in an Art rut, how do people design the greebles and details on their ships? I'm thinking of kitbashing some of the details from the revenant ships but do you guys think their color scheme looks close enough?

>>175898552
what are you using to make those ships?

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>>175898621
Battleship Forever ship editor, then sketch away the details so I can port it into SS, here's the original BSF sprite.

>>175883130
Can I change the faction names or will it brick my game?

>>175898748
why don't you use the BSF sprite then?

>>175898458
Java should be installed in C: by default.
Do this:
windows key+r
write cmd then ok
write and check if it gives an error:
java -d64
if no error then you have java 64 bits installed, next write:
java -version
Post results.

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>>175898953
Results

>>175898770
Probably not. There's plenty in the game that's loaded in through text files. You might also want to hit up localization and strings files because those still have the original faction names in them.

>>175899203
Whatcha fappin' to, Spenny?

>>175899369
people he would fuck until dehydration

>>175898878
Nah, the details look like a clusterfuck of random lines since it's assembled like a Lego ship. I prefer some details that actually makes sense like most Vanilla ships and the good mods.

>>175899369
>>175899415
Thought I saw someone's mom I knew.

>>175861469
so i have a fleet with 4 astrals and a paragon all equipped with beams, and honestly the paragon with Tacticals+Gravitons+Tachyons+High Intensity lasers can literally 1v20 any fleet in the game.

And spark/phase fighters are rediculous right now.

I killed a bunch of the full <redacted> battlestations, and i don't know what else is left in the game. What do i do now?

>>175899810
start slaughtering factions desu

>>175899203
Aight, you got a clusterfuck here.
First
check if you have this folder in C:
C:\Program Files\Java\jre7

then if you have it go to the cmd again and do this:
mklink /d C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\"

>>175899810
Now you do it again, but this time, only using fleets that you salvaged from combat and siding with the pirates.

>>175899875
i did they're all dead now except for tri-jews because they give me beam weapons and beam weapons make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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>>175899237
Changed it, there's a listing that references in-game text but not for files.

>>175900050
There's probably a world generator that references the individual faction definition files. So, you can rename the faction filenames, but you need to reflect that change somewhere.

Ah, yes, data/world/factions.csv

We are talking about the same thing, right?

>>175900349
Yes, there's a "displayname" line, the id and all references to files are separate but you can rename them it seems.

What should I rename them all now.

>Israel

>>175897202
A frigate so good it also solos most destroyers.

Also it doesn't really address the issue that Diable guns are all rather underpowered and that the fighters are all suddenly worse if you use them on a non-Diable carrier. I like the mod but not being able to really mesh the new options into the existing ship content is very unfortunate.

>Survey a gas giant
>Only asks for 5 supply

How you know you've made it.

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>>175899926

>>175901391
how can you be so dense
nice tabs

>>175901391
>No gay sex with hats on
c'mon Spence.

>>175901391
Not in program files (x86) either? not in G:?
then you don't have java installed nigg.

>>175901667
It's okay, anon. People from Rockville have simple tastes.

>change tritachyon flag
>its just blank now
>same size, file type, location and name
fuck you game

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>>175901656
>>175901667
>>175901807
I wonder if anyone here knows me. Fuck it, we've come this far, might as well go all in.
>pic related
I dunno what the fuck is going on.
no java folder in x86 or G:

>>175902164
Simple? Child, please.

>>175902246
Ah, but is it the same bit-depth?

>>175902285
At least you're learning.

>>175902401
i have no clue what bit depth is, care to enlighten me

>>175902456
Just a joke, probably not the issue.

Bit depth is the amount of information in each pixel. So, 24-bit bitmaps have less color information than 32-bit bitmaps.

There's all sorts of ways to mess with bit depth to get different levels of data into a pixel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth

>>175898552
>I'm stuck in an Art rut, how do people design the greebles and details on their ships?

look at images of insects, especially those with thick carapace for inspiration

>>175898552
make a layer
and just start throwing lines on the ship

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>>175902894
>>175898552
Look up some Chris Foss.

>>175902401
>At least you're learning.
I don't feel it. Still don't know what the hell is going on with java

BRDY UPDATE WHEN

>>175903773
>Probably 8.1 for BRDY 'cause I don't feel like rushing out a compatibility update when I have so many half finished things going on, finite time to work on it, etc. Don't worry, it'll be quite soon anyway.
straight from the man himself

>>175903869
But I can't play Starsector without my dick in a Nevermore

>>175903989
Right in the middle?

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>>175903553

>http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=5373.0

>Galatia Complete is the Ultimate space faring music collection for Starsector. Adds a grand total of 102 pieces of music totaling to over 5.5 hours of listening time.


Oh cool, i've always wanted more space music, already got the "to touch the stars" album

>Error (429) This account's links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!


ffffffffffuck

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Bootleg Extra System for SS 0.8a.

Enable Ship Upgrades

Original author: Truth Originem

The author is MIA, who the hell knows when he will be back. I simply recompiled the src to run on 0.8.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbmyalv9es6h8f6/Extra%20System.rar?dl=0

Custom Changes:

001 Fighter Upgrade unlocked.

002 Mobility increases burn by a factor of 1. IE Normal will give +1 Burn.

003 Added costs to fighters.

004 Recomplied for SS 0.8a. Fighter codes no longer is called and left as is.

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>>175904372
>>>not listening to FILK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAodwkCQIo

>>175869678
those are some awesome portraits there anon you gonna upload them?

>>175904428

Thanks for the link anon

any link to the mp3s or where i can buy the songs?

>>175887654
It's java

>>175904545
Sure, just lemme fill it out a bit more first.

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My Personal List Of Big Quality Of Life Issues Plox Fix:

1. Have any discovered debris fields or derelicts or space stations permanently marked on your map so you can fly out back to wherever they drifted off to without having to ping sensors every half a parsec; like why can't I just drop a transponder on it? Secondly, add a thingy that tells you when the debris field/derelict/whatever will drift apart and disappear forever so you know how many days you've got to get back to that shit.

2. Give me some kind of rough indication how much shit is left in a debris field so I don't come across the same debris field for my 3rd orbit around the system fighting off pirate patrols not knowing if I was the one that blew that shit up and made it and I already salvaged it twice or the AI did it, only for me to try salvaging what's in it to lose 3 crewmen and 10 heavy machinery for 1 metal and 1 fuel because yeah I did salvage that shit twice already.

3. Tell me how much and what kind of salvage I fucked up and destroyed because I didn't have good enough salvage gear. The way it is right now, you don't get any feedback that better skills and gear equals better rewards so you best be buying that salvage rig if you want the high intensity laser, noob.

Have an unrelated picture of a motorcycle

>>175904704
the company that produced that song is dead ;_;

>>175906305
my problem is flight log actually lists things you find but the log itself isn't permanent, it deletes over time I believe.

>>175906513
After a year (cycle).

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wew lads

whats the bet

PARAGON
>vs
>3 MORAS
>12 DROVERS
>2 MEDUSA
>2 TEMPESTS
>LASHERS

LET THE SLAUGHTER BEGIN

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>implying

>>175906643
Paragon, always bet on that OP piece of shit

>>175906872
Anon, your Drover.

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>>175902894
Go take a look at the vast majority of spaceships made for Star Citizen
Recognize that these are all complete and utter shit and this is the kind of design and greebling you need to stay as far away from as possible. Focus on giving your ship a distinctive silhouette and color palette. This way it's immediately obvious the faction and possibly ship type a player is looking at, without having to dig into any menus.

When it comes to greebling and small details, keep in mind that it's visual noise. Use it to accent the larger elements of the design instead of just covering the whole thing up with so much crap it actually hurts to look at it, like some kind of accidental basilisk hack.

And when making your ships, figure out some way of layering it so you can throw entirely new color/camo schemes onto the ship without fucking anything up. That'll be a godsend if you suddenly decide you hate purple and actually wanted light blue spacegoons.

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>>175906872

>>175907032
>Focus on giving your ship a distinctive silhouette and color palette

this is seriously important, it's a factor that's easily forgotten or ignored, if you want a distinct ship get a nice silhouette, details can be added later to give it that depth

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ROUND 2
>11 drovers (rip Islip)
>3 moras

>>175907345
Use Khopesh

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lol carriers :^^^)

>>175907345
>piranhas
I like your style

>>175893525
>head south
>beacon directly on edge of civilized space

The Hegemony really weren't trying were they?

Time to get facefucked by a battlestation

>>175907527
>>175907508
Pirahnas are better massed because Khopesh fire too late and allow even Cruisers to move.

Pirahnas bomb early and do more damage while being slower missiles but they make huge moving minefields as a result. Also their tiny little gun does some work.

>come try and murder a battlestation
>absolutely tears me a new boyhole
>come back, only change to my fleet is an onslaught
>onslaught facetanks all the damage and chews through the battlestation as if it were nothing

i didnt even use my shield once i forgot how much i love this ship

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FLAGSHIP?
>bought another mora, back to 12, and a medusa

>>175907728
one of my favorite Stupid Lategame Tricks in .7 was finding an XIV battlegroup onslaught and making it the brickest brick to ever brick and removing the shield generators, then seeing how absurd the fleets i could take on with it would get.

>>175907853
>not getting even more carriers for a flagship

>>175904385
I don't understand

>>175904385
thanks anon, almost missed your post

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>>175904545
>>175905928
https://my.mixtape.moe/tfjudx.7z

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it died 2 seconds after this from the pirahna bomblets

>inb4 no ship to recover

>>175907895
>finding an XIV onslaught
>without a hegemony commission

tell me how

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FLAGSHIP?

or just stick to drover spam

>>175909371
Astral at least looks nice as a trophy flagship

>>175909371
>degraded engines
>damaged flight deck
t r a s h

>>175910184
cost only 800k to repair :^)

gotta love how losing fighters only cost crew and that can be reduced dramatically with skills :^)

I dont want fighters to be nerfed /stsg/, hold me

>>175910449
they deserve it
doesnt help all the modfags are making OP fighters with high ordnance points to compensate
>implying you need weapons on a carrier when you have 100 fighters

>find 2 red beacons next to eachother at the edge of the map

oy vey

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>people think PD can handle 12 drovers

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>>175911196
I like your style private

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>when more enemy come in

god pirahnas are sexy
>moving minefields
>bomblets are tough as fuck for PD
>bomblet

>>175911196
>>175911307
>those lines of bombs
It's beautiful....

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>>175880789
http://www.mediafire.com/file/chg3y5pbascl5cw/Power+Waifus+in+Space.rar

>>175910449
Alex is just going to make fighters take extra hull damage from flak and MAYBE take a look at the base replacement rate. Calling it now.

He's not going to nerf fighters into the ground as they are his answer to frigate/phase ship shenanigans and also are there to encourage using different ships instead of the same old standbys

Ships like the Sunder that have full front facing hardpoints should rightfully get fucked by fighters.

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>>175911307
oops autopost went off before I typed
>bomblets deal loads of damage
>3 a wing unlike 2 khopesh
>1 machine gun, unlike 2 on broadswords so they still do some shield damage
>damage so high who cares if you hit shields
>MOVING MINEFIELDS that will always hit cruisers and capitals

Nothing better than pirahnas unloading into a capital/cruisers face with a full load

>>175861469
Is anyone having problems getting the tutorial to work? Every time I play it I get to the part where I have to salvage the ships and I can never get it to progress past that after I take them and destroy the rest.

>>175911445
Why is plasma cannon so lewd?

>>175911663
because she shoots thrice :3