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Necro'ed: >>175830649
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I want to kiss Luna's tummy and lick her belly button!
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Hey let's give a class 12 (twelve) ramp cards with good secondary effects. Oh and also the best healing and best board clears. What could go wrong?
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Rate my Take 2 deck and ignore my shit cropping
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Post elf
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GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIUTSU
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>almost made a thread myself
wew that was close
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I love my cute wife Unica!
So beautiful!
SO PURE!
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>>175857580
easy 5 wins unless you brick hard
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>>175857532
Creep
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Dog!
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>>175857845
Luna is in GBF?
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>>175857580
>lost with sahabahazell

Dragoncuck intellect
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Just started playing the game, how do I improve this shit deck?

Won 4 matches in a row fight it so it can't be that terrible, r-right?
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>>175857691
>easy 5
>saha
>imperial dragoon

>>175857580
You got two amazing legendaries and two awful ones. Some good silvers. It's an okay draft
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Milf ass.
>Captcha: butt nixon
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>almost at 41k now
https://twitter.com/baha_virginsoul
Reminder to hit that follow button for more FREE packs
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>tfw soviet union won't collapse for another month
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>>175857994
Drop dance of death and get tribunals, drop the imperial mammoths and get themis
Do story and add the pure bald man of infinite banishing
add some -countdown stuff to help with seraph
more healing
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>>175858205
>soviet union gets banished next week*
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>>175857637
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>>175858125
>shadowverse announce has 8k retweets
>RoB only 700
what went wrong?
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>>175858334
>tfw I don't have to be afraid of nerfs because I play Neppu
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MAKE IT STOP
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>>175858259
thanks
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New player here.

How is online? Do you play single player or versus other players?

Can you challenge friends etc?
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>>175858424
>complains about getting 3 DJeannes
CURSE YOUR LUCK YOU HERETIC
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>>175857637
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Hmm
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>>175858415
You'll still get reamed by Aegis
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>>175857973
She and Arisa were in there for an event I think. I just saved the pics when they got posted here.
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>>175858510
All of the above, but you could've figured out that riddle if you just opened up the game. It's not rocket science.
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>>175858510
there is a story mode and practice vs. AI but you would mostly play against other players

yes
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>>175858580
>>175858576
Can you find out who you're playing against? I don't see any player names or chat.. dafuq?
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>>175858561
hardly
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>>175858510
>How is online? Do you play single player or versus other players?
You can play ranked mode, casul or draft, no restrictions on either, but ranked is more competitive and has rewards for playing it. In draft you draft deck out of 15 pairs of cards and have 5 games to win
There is singleplayer stories for all classes and AI challenges
>Can you challenge friends etc?
Yes, you can both normal and draft
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>>175858736
names are shown at the start and if you go to the menu mid-match
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>>175858386
RoB is fucking ded m8, they even closed the iOS server recently.
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Which packs should I buy as a newbro?

Or should I save gold for something else?
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>>175858762
>aegis seraph
come back when you can beat aegis test of strength
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>>175858762
What do you do if he plays CD reduction or a ToS instead of two wincons?
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>>175857994
Top is aegis haven staples. 2 is a must, 3 is preferred. You could go with 2 aegis and tribunal.
Bottom is other good stuff. There's a few other good options but that's most if them
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>>175858736
Press ESC and it'll show their name, in the replay it shows that as well, on the friends tab you can see the last players you went against
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>>175858832
>Which packs should I buy as a newbro?
That depends on which class you want to focus on.
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Can you guys help me fix my deck? I sometimes have problems with Ramp/Dragon
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>>175858832
What deck do you want to play? ToG, RoB, and standard in that order IMO. You probably need a lot of standard cards but you get a ton of free standard packs, so I wouldn't really spend gold on it. I wouldn't really recommend buying DE packs at this point.
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>>175858879
Are Aegis decks dropped their TOS nowadays? I thought that shit was the bees knees, though I don't play the deck.
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is it too late to start playing? do you get exclusive cards or can get you all cards if you play now without paying at all
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>>175858858
>deaths breath
>more nep and goblin kings
test of strength aegis is the easiest shit to deal with as nep
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Be honest /svg/, is our meta really better right now?

Would also like to hear opinions from idorts who play both.
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>>175859029
I can't into English all of a sudden
Have Aegis Decks dropped their TOS?*
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>>175857994
Pick a win con, either Aegis or Seraph, and build your deck around it. Don't bother spending loads of vials to optimize your deck as much as possible because anything can win in the lower ranks.
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>>175858959
You need 1-2 Test of Strength or your aegis won't do much to stop dragon from killing you
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>>175858858
>mordecai can't beat aegis in a duel
truly the immortal cuck
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>>175858959
You need Test of Strength and Acolyte Light.
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>>175859029
>>175859149
It's optional, a dead draw often. But when you get aegis out it's game over most of the time. High risk high reward
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>>175859036
The only exclusive things in this game are cosmetics (emblems, sleeves).
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>>175859036
Should be the best time to start now because of the 9 million download promotions. You will get 49 packs from the start.

Every card can be crafted without paying except certain legendaries with alternate artwork.
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>>175859036
Only exclusive cards are some alternative art cards you can get from prebuilt decks and some past events. All other cards are available from packs and crafting, except a few achievement related ones.
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>>175859147
But the other game doesn't have cute girls and anime tiddies?
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>>175858858
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>>175859490
Correct, so SV can never be worse.
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>>175859147
Yes.
I'll take dragon and shadow over dshift and roachniggers any time
also
>postnerf daria
>only 51%
Completely false numbers
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>>175858424
>complaining about the best Haven legendary
I bet you played Elana in DE.
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>>175858959
You've got removal but you could also probably use some pressure cards so Dragon can't ramp up on you as easily. You could try beastcall Arias instead of snake priestess.

Test of strength might work too but from what I played it felt like a dead draw sometimes. Sonia is also kind of annoying for dragon to deal with. Has enough health to block Zell combos even Ouro combo since it doesn't take effect damage.
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>>175859616
This includes Dshift too you baka
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>>175858959
Zell's existence means Dragon rapes slow decks. The best you can do is main Acolite's to counter Ouroboros or just as additional hard removal in general.
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>>175859147
I'd like to see numbers from master/legend because it can change pretty drastically
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>>175859147
>pre-tog
>picking the pre-nerf stats instead of the post-nerf
That's not "pre-totg", that should be called "RoB". Yes, ToG is the worst meta. What's your point?
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>>175858424
>Want Dark jeanne.
>my 2 latest leggos where otomeme and Roese queen from my 2 latest free standard packs.
>only got Aegis as only Totg in like 30 packs.
Fuck my life.
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>>175859147
WTF happened to Shaman and Warlock?

Why they go into trash tier after expansion?
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>>175859147
>Be honest /svg/, is our meta really better right now?
No, who said that? Dragon is annoying as fuck, but I don't care about it too much. The problem is Shadow existing alongside it, what kills every single deck in existence other than those 2. The nerfs can't come soon enough. I hate the fact that it seems like they will only nerf cards at the end of this month, like they did in RoB.
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>>175859147
>post nerf daria vs pre nerf shadow and dragon
ecksdee
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>>175859946
HS rotated cards out and they lost some really good stuff
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>>175859946
Blizzard forgot to powercreep their cards, also they push for discard warlock but there it discards completely random card
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>>175859147
>pre-nerf Daria
If anything, it was good that retards were all jumping into Daria instead of Roach, the actual best deck.
What's even the point of comparing past metas if you want to talk about the current one? Post stats for the current Hearthstone meta if you want to make a point.
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>>175858424
Got 3 of her and i don't have garuda/aegis. In RoB i got 3 wolfs and i don't play forest, now i got animated anomaly and aerin. Wtf Cygames? I am shadowmain.
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Mastema? More like Fatstema.
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How often does the 50 crystal price come back for the packs?
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>>175860156
>Post stats for the current Hearthstone meta if you want to make a point.
You retarded or something?
What do you think the thing in the bottom left is?
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>>175860174
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>175860206
Daily. It's called the daily deal.
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>>175860206
>daily deal
every month
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>>175859147
>rune has had more than 2x more people playing daria and dshift than shadow
>BUT SHADOW IS THE MOST CANCEROUS CRAFT! FUCK SHADOW
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>>175860035
Duel of Champions had a deck that dealt damage whenever a card was randomly discarded from your opponent's hand
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>>175860206
>how often does the daily deal reset
gee iunno
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>>175860281
>You retarded or something?
Yes, I am. I only realized it after posting it.
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Catacomb has a really soothing voice.
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>mfw using meme mask to cuck OTK roach out of their combo
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>>175860345
You can't be this retarded
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>>175860345
How many extra chromosomes were you born with?
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>>175859515
Dam she's flat as shit.
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>>175859147
Current meta is as bad as MSG meta in hearthstone was, and basically all those months of shaman from LoE through Kara.

Although Hearthstone is different. When one or two classes are really bad almost nobody plays them. I'm not sure if it's because the non-meta classes in hearthstone are usually just super awful or people enjoy playing non-meta shit in shadowverse more, but even the worst classes in shadowverse never usually drop below the 6% playrate like you see all the time in hearthstone.
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>>175860345
Daria could and still can brick, Midshadow bricks far less. Daria had weaknesses, Midshadow is T0. Why are you trying to defend your broken ass deck? Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>175860345
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>>175860526
>>175860584
Here comes the tog-cuck defense force. Lecture us how shadow and dragon are way worse than dshift, ptp forest and haven in DE
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>>175859962
I think waiting for 2 months to nerf the card is alright, if Cygames nerfed the cards right away, it would backfire harder on them since people spent tons of vials on Fotm OP shit and wouldn't want to them to be useless so soon.
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>>175860501
>tfw cucking blood players using meme mask
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>>175860678
You still didn't tell me how many extra chromosomes you were born with, downs-kun.
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rate my card

2pp
Havencraft gold amulet
countdown 2
whenever enemy follower is destroyed, banish it instead. When enemy follower is banished increase countdown by 1. If this amulet has 15 or more countdown win the game
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>>175860679
Nerfed cards can be liquified for their full crafting value. Also, it was clear from the end of last month that Shadow and Dragon needed to be nerfed.
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>>175860440
He's comforting the game as he kills it.
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>>175860648
>t0
I don't think you know what that means.
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>>175860679
You realize you get full vial value for vialing nerfed cards for about a month after the nerf, yeah?
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>>175860621
because flat is justice
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>>175860765
>infinite free banishes for 2pp
Thank god /svg/ has no degree in game design
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>>175860294
>>175860342
>>175860403
>Bought yesterday
>Is still full price today
Gee sorry I fucking asked I don't normally use real shekels.
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>>175860678
>defending a craft that has a positive win rate against literally every other craft in the game
You're just fishing for you's at this point. Get a trip so I can block your dumb ass.
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>>175859616
>>175859814
Updated with the post gobbu mage/piercing rune numbers. It should be "equal" now since it's both games during the last xpac AFTER nerfs and both games during the current xpac prior to any nerfs.
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>>175860345
>Shadowniggers are this retarded
You CAN'T make this shit up.
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>>175860942
Because the daily login bonus didn't reset yet, brainlet.
That's in 2 hours.
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>>175860930
you can always cast 5pp removal to destroy that amulet
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>>175860345
Damn and I laughed at Dragon being dumb
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>>175860992
>still has more games than shadow
>shadow is more cancerous than rune! w-why? Because y-you see them all the time! r-rune is dead now!
t. Runefaggot
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>>175860992
>post nerf RoB
That meta was great. I can't understand why Cygames decided they should push Shadow and Dragon to become over the top broken.
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>>175860992
>Suddenly, Alberto
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>>175860793
>>175860892
Only for the nerfed cards. For example if they kill Shadow by removing Catacomb, Orthrus, Party, etc, then Eachtars will be next to useless and legos are usually the most expensive.
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>>175860992
The best meta in this picture is top left, the post-nerf RoB. All classes around 10% playrate at least, worst class at 47% winrate.
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>>175860930
Neither have SV developers.
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>>175859147
>self-reported statistics
That will never be accurate to determine what the tier list is like for X meta. Because it need single individuals who cares to do these reports, and almost no one do.
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>>175860992
No no no >>175859814 is wrong.

You had it right the first time since the Bucc/Spirit claws nerf only came in late February so it was both games during their last set BEFORE nerfs.

Pic related is the HS meta after those nerfs.
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>>175860765
hhahahaha

no
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>>175861338
They never kill decks when nerfing them. The closest thing to that were the PtP Forest nerfs and, even then, the deck wasn't unplayable after the nerfs and all of the non-Homecoming gold/legos used by Forest at the time stayed good for a long time after.
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>>175860345
Are you alright, anon? Can you read?
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pls concede

39031
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Anyone have a decent ambush frog deck list?
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>>175861404
>half a million games
>it need single individuals who cares to do these reports, and almost no one do.
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>>175861583
What a fucking disgusting lethal.
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I still dont get why anyone would take game-ai that only tracks people that actually upload their data on there seriously
>blood is t2
>blood has absolutely 0 issues shitting on both t1 decks

I literally cannot take anyone citing game-ai seirously. Its one of those "aww he thinks he is people" moment
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>>175860624
That's because the gameplay isn't as diverse in HS, class identity is a meme. Even the decks aren't that different, all control decks had to use Reno to compete. All the classes are all about tempo, there's no unique gameplay or feeling a class can offer. That's why when a class underperforms, there's literally 0 reason to play it over another one.

Another reason is that you have more matches to do in SV because you get 3 dailies instead of 1, so you are forced to play the underdog classes even when you don't want to.
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>>175861583
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>>175861827
>blood has absolutely 0 issues shitting on both t1 decks
This is so ridiculously wrong. Blood does well against Dragon and Dragon alone. Nothing beats Shadow consistently.
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>>175861827
Except no one is citing game-ai.
People are citing shadowlog. And if that's not enough for you, syadoreco exists too.
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>>175861827
Blood is garbage against Shadow. Citing myself and shadowlog.
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Turns out that last word effects trigger between Israfil's sweep and her attack proper, lurching corpse included.
I could practically hear the forte's keyboard flying across the room.
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>>175861669
You're retarded if you think that shit is 100% legit. I mean, if you're saying autists like you do those reports manually then I'd rather pass.
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>>175861578
thank you anon who bought SFV leader
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>>175861706
Where is the lethal? He needs to evo zell to give baha storm and israfil can't go face. Isn't he five short?
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>>175861943
Aggro decks shit on shadow as much as they're shitting on others
inb4 you post game-ai numbers that combine all sorts of "midrange" decks into ""aggro""
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>>175862028
there are some weird mechanics like that
eg succubus has "deal 2 to enemy leader if their health is higher than yours" - if you have multiple succubus they will all trigger even if the first damage reduces health below the trigger level
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>>175862045
I never said anything like that. I am saying that you are a retarded for thinking that no one gives enough of a fuck to report their games when there are literally hundreds of thousands of games reported.
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>>175862028
Reaper's effect also actives after the sweep and Isra sometimes ends up crashing into an incredibly THICC Reaper and die.
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>>175862148
Zell Evolve, give Israfil Storm
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>>175860992
>classes with less than 2% playrate
rip in peace
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>>175862148
Baha was placed the turn prior, sword swarmed the board hoping that he couldn't kill them all since Baha can't go face with >2 dudes on board. Saha+Zell'd Israfil can go face and clear board for Baha to be allowed to go face.
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>>175862148
albert evolve from sword
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>>175862045
When Cygames reveals stats, they match shadowlog's reports. If Cygames doesn't lie, you can trust shadowlog. Shadowlog isn't 100% trustable if you take into account misreported decks, aka storm ramp vs ramp, or aggro shadow vs midshadow, but it's accurate enough to give you a good idea of the meta.
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>>175862148
Isra does not have Baha's restriction (that's what I thought at first when I looked at the image, since I am used to having Saha pull Baha). She can just attack face with Zell's Storm and clear the board for Baha.
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Praise be to Eris.

Ancient Lion Spirit is MVP.
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>>175862347
That is the most retarded shit ever
>dragon plays bahamut on turn 7
>shit better flood the bo-
>lightning blast
>bahamut freely hits face with 0 consequences
No other craft can do this
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I'm new to using dragon and not sure what deck to use or what leggo is most important to craft next. 3rd baha, 3rd forte, 2nd israfil? Advice please
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itt we create a card for every craft to balance it

>dragoncucks
5pp 4/5 as long as this follower is on board everytime you discard a card your oponent discards a card

>shadownigger
8pp spell double the amounts of shadows you currently have

>runecraft
spell 5pp draw 3 random followers with spellboost abilities

>bloodcraft
5pp 5/5 follower fanfare any deal damage done to you this turn is inflicted on the oponent instead

>havencraft
7pp 0/6 ward sumon a countdown amulet and remove 1 from its cost

swordcraft

2pp 2/2 fanfare give a follower storm

swordcraft

7pp spell double the attack of all your followers with ambush
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>>175862379
>its acurate
>wolfbolt only counts as a wolfbolt if bolt kills him
>if roach kills him then it counts as a roach deck

Literally eat shit my man
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>>175862950
What is this? A titties for ants.
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>>175862950
forgot forescraft

3pp deal 5 damage to your oponent if 2 cards where played this turn
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>>175862920
Israfil or Baha. I'd personally craft Baha.
Forte is not particularly important, unless you are playing Storm Ramp or Face Dragon.
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Consider this:

You cannot activate enhance effects with ramped mana
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i have some questions

if i start playing it now,how many free packs do i get to keep up with the others ?

is there a way to make the steam version and mobile connected ?
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>>175863032
No one here is discussing the winrates of each deck.
No matter what deck from a craft wins, the winrates of the whole CRAFT remain the same.
+1 win to Wolfbolt +1 win to Roach both up Forestcrafts wins by 1.
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Is MMR/Elo/rating in normal matches separate for every class?

It fucking better be.
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>>175863143
How about we stop giving cards enhance effects with zero stat/mana penalty so they stop having double use with zero drawback.
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>>175863032
He literally said that on that same post, you fucking retard.
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>>175863161
shut the fuck up hearthnigger
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>>175863224
No?
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Concede please
72293
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>>175863032
Read my post again, I talked about misreported decks. You use shadowlog to judge classes, not decks.
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>>175862874
lighting blast was a mistake
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>>175863163
Except wolfbolt and roach are 2 completely different decks with 1 same wincon which is roach
You cannot fucking say wolfbolt is roach even though you can possibly win off roaches
Thats like saying the azazel otk memedeck is kys blood
Stop being retarded
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>>175863279
i just wanted to try out this game chill
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>turn three Forbidden Ritual

give me a better feeling than this
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>>175863267
but then how will they sell cards and make jew gold
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>>175862379
The problem is that popular decks gets more data because the people playing these decks are the people who cares about self-reporting those games. Let's take Blood players, maybe there are not enough autist- players who cares about shadowlog or reporting their games even though their deck being competitive enough to stand up against the supposed 1st and 2nd place.
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>>175863370
We don't want you. I'm not going to tell you again, so please just leave.
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>>175863141
Is storm ramp better? More importantly which is better vs midrange shadow?
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>>175863224
Welcome to the game, fellow dragon craft player!
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>>175863161
>if i start playing it now,how many free packs do i get to keep up with the others ?
49. Everyone will also be getting 5-10 packs on May 12th, but it's possible that they'll replace the 9 additional ones from 9 million downloads, so ideally you want to start before that.
>is there a way to make the steam version and mobile connected ?
You can link data by generating a code with the Device Link option in the More tab and then inserting the code in the Link Data option when starting the game.
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>>175863471
lighting blast
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>>175863161
You get shit tons of packs from the get go, and you can choose to reroll if your initial roll is subpar. And yes, you can connect it
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>>175863471
Whichever deck you put lighting blast in.
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>>175863412
You're forgetting that the reports go both ways. If I'm a cancer dragoncuck and I get killed by a blood memer, I'll report that loss. That's one report for Blood, even though the Blood player didn't report shit.
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>>175863471
>Is storm ramp better
It depends on the match ups. It's hard to tell precisely by looking statistics because of Shadowlog and Syadoreco being a bitch in terms of Ramp data.
>vs midrange shadow
Definetely Saha Ramp.
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>>175863440
why you don't want that hearthstone players try out shadowverse ?
>>175863549
>>175863643
thanks for the tips guys
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>t3 drop forbidden ritual on board
>Luna drops orthus and goes face
>her brain shortcircuits when her whole board is banished
>evolve my birdo and go face
>she drops soulsquasher and concedes because she can't understand that she doesn't have infinite shadows
Poor Luna was dropped on head when she was young
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>>175863508
havencraft amulet spam, actually
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How long was PTP elf tier 0? This wait is agonizing.
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What deck should I be playing?
Or maybe I should reroll? Do I still get the free shit when I reroll?
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>>175863691
Ignore the shitposting faggot.
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>these tens of thousands of self-reported stats don't matter
>instead i'll base my analysis off my own personal stats
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>>175863363
I literally just told you no one cares about the winrates of each separate deck here.
This was a discussion about crafts.
Azazael having 99 wins and 1kysblood having 1 win still ends up as 100 BLOOD wins, just like 1azazel win and 99kysblood wins would end up as 100.
This was a discussion about the winrates of crafts.
Learn to read or don't reply.
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>>175863757
2 expansions
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>>175863757
This game has never had a tier 0 deck.
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>>175863691
He's angry about /hsg/ refugees shitting up the place. As long as you assimilate and don't shit up the place, nobody gives a fuck. Use SV keywords, don't be a fag, and you're fine.
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>>175863757
Shadow's not tier 0 you fucking idiots
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>>175863829
>my own personal stats i uploaded matter
...?
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>>175863850
Welcome to Shadowverse! Please climb some ranks before posting.
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GIVE FOREST A 1-DROP WITH 2 HP
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>>175864031
no
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>>175864003
I'm in Masters and you have no clue what the term ''tier 0'' means. Move along now.
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>>175864031
>what is goblin
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>>175864121
A NEUTRAL CARD
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>>175864121
Free skeleton for shadow.
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>>175864162
Why does that matter to Forest? You want to pull it with White Wolf?
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>>175863716
>Luna summons lurching corpse and evolves it and tries to attack a follower
>Realizes she can't
>Disconnects
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>>175863870
but why /hsg/ is shitting this place ? can't they just stick to their general ? what does makes them come here ? shitposting ? anger ? because getting to the meta game is so much easy with all those free packs while instead they have to pay 40 dollars for a card game ?
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>>175863848
>nobody cares about winrates of each deck
>blood is t2 because game-ai says so! (since snek,azazel and memekys are included into aggro and kys numbers making it seem worse than it is)

Literally eat shit my man
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>>175863716
Poor dumb Luna :(
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>luna best
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>>175864085
Pretty sure it means that no counters exist and it has a disproportionate winrate. The golden rule of TCG balance is 40-60 matchups at worst.
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>>175863793
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>>175863793
It's an OK start.
You have a lot of shit for Ramp Dragon (Israfil, Bahamut, Lucifer), what isn't ideal, since that deck is expensive as fuck even for players with good amount of playtime, but you can still use those (since they are neutrals) for your budget starting decks and for dailies.
Nephthys can make a good Shadow deck that is focused around it, but it requires quite a good amount of golds.
Forte can make Face Dragon, which is relatively cheap and very good when starting.
Daria makes Tempo Rune, which is in a bad spot nowadays, but should also be very good when starting, particularly because it is also very cheap.
Imperial Dragoon is a meme. Otohime has been powercreeped.

It's overall not bad. I can't tell for sure if rerolling is necessary. If this was RoB meta, I'd definetely tell you to keep the roll.
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>Shadow isn't T0 power hour
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>>175864393
no you see T0 means 90% winrate
let's disregard the fact that every deck is teched against shadow and is still unfavored, that means nothing
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>>175863716
>luna meets a control deck
>welp better make him lose by disconecting :^)!
>meanwhile shadow gets +0.1% winrate on a random nip website dedicated to netdecking
She really was
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>>175864530
>>175864393
A tier 0 deck is literally unbeatable, 100% winrate.
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>>175863643
But that might create some imprecise reports given to poor judgment. Whatever way you look at it, inflated data for certain craft is a big deal.
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58028
Concede please
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guys, a tier 0 deck is the worst deck in the game, because 0 sucks
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>>175864393
T0 means that one deck and only one deck will completely dominate the meta, it will be able to win even when dealt a terrible hand, where it's only slightly slowed down. Usually involves a %-based number on how much they should win but nobody ever agrees on that shit within any game that has tiers, usually 65% for both going first and second is a good grasping point. Some people would argue it's far higher, but I'm not gonna go into that.
SV has never had such a deck thus far.
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>>175864530
>netdecks
>teching against shadow

You cannot be serious
You're just baiting for (you)s right? Right?
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>>175864693
>tfw you will never be this mentally challenged
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What the fuck is with the sudden influx of new players today? /svg/ told me this meta killed the game.
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>>175863793
I'd reroll. Aside from Dragon legos, you don't have anything else. The thing is, Ramp Dragon is very expensive for a new player, even though it's strong right now. You can keep this roll on the side if you're interested in playing Dragon though.

You get the free shit if you reroll, assuming you rolled on a phone. You can't reroll on Steam.
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>>175864936
cute girls works much more than what you think
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>>175864952
im too dumb to reroll, is it possible someone can do it for another player?
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>>175863793
>>175864952
>pic
>>Dragon
>Sibyl/Bahamut
I think it makes much more sense to recommend Forte because of Face Dragon, since a new player building Ramp is simply unrealistic.
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>>175864893
>>175864836
You anons need to go out and purchase sarcasm detectors or something
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>>175865065
You use an emulator to reroll, there's probably a guide in the OP for that.
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>>175864530
>every deck is teched against shadow
>none of them use lucius or angelic barrage, haven actually isnt even using forbidden ritual but test of strength
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Fuck yeah jungle albert
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>>175864817
Anyone?
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>>175864952
>coin flip
>strong
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>>175865065
Download an emulator/use your phone, install the game, skip the tutorial, open packs, see if there is at least 7 legendaries, post them here, wait for judgment. In case you didn't pull a good amount of legendaries or we tell you the roll is shit, clear the app's data and repeat the process.
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>>175865184
You're mentally ill if you think angelic barrage will do anything to help the shadow matchup
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>>175865217
That fucking cards is a double Albert+Zeus packed. Cygames is retarded.
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>6 matches to get 1 win with forest
>5 matches to get 4 wins with dragon
>lost one to dragon

What a balanced and intelligent game.
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>>175865330
what doi do then? how do i transfer my cards to steam
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>>175864512
>>175864952
>>175865128
guess I try and reroll
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>>175865351
>angelic barrage and kill 2 shadow reapers waiting to get big and strong since they wont get buffed
>along the way kill the skellies as well
Keep crying about shadow while my nonnetdeck has 60% winrate in masters
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>>175865435
See >>175863525
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>>175865498
>won: 3
>lost: 2
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>>175865580
>100% winrate vs shadow

A shame /svg/ only knows how to unga and is too stupid to play control
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How do you get this sleeve?
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>>175865519
>>175865435
Remember to also link your account to Facebook or Google Play through the Account Link option, after you are done rerolling, to make sure you don't ever lose it (you also get 3 free packs for doing it).
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>>175865128
I suppose. I should make a v2 of this pic with Forte. A new player would like to keep Forte, she wins games hard.
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>>175864817
Can anyone concede for me real quick?
58028
Last try.
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>>175865580
>won 3 and lost 2
>shit deck!
>won 51540 and lost 33210
>holy shit this is so good!
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>>175865927
Correct, you understand the basics of sample sizes now! Congratulations!
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>>175865498
Put on a trip if you're going to blog about your shitty grail deck every thread.
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>>175865927
One has a margin of error in double digit %s and the other in single.
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Just delete Sword already Cygames
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>>175866021
If you want selfmoderation because you're too fucking stupid to not netdeck then you're free to go on reddit whenever you want.
You'll be welcome over there with open arms.
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>>175864817
>>175865821
Thanks vampy
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>>175865687
JP only as usual.
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>>175866615
Wasn't there a trick to get JP sleeves though? Are those free?
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>>175864936
because new players usually don't care about meta until they get good at the game

also >>175865029
>>
>absolutely demolishing blood
>1 dmg off
>suddenly flowerbed into Azazel + Laura
wtf just happened
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>>175866652
Only the idolmaster ones. Those chibi sleeves are paid over some other shit they're selling which is nip only
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>>175865443
I think I re-rolled wrong
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>>175866652
Most JP sleeves require you to assist to some event or purchase some merchandise. I think you have to buy some box with cards signed by the VAs to get those.
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>Saha, Saha, Isra, Isra, Bahamut, Bahamut,
Dragon sure is fun to play against
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>>175867594
>my only good draws throughout the game today
>get cucked by Azazel
please end me
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>>175867594
you got got
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>>175867726
just kill them before turn 7
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>>175867627
yes you did
time to reroll again
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Need a concede, please.
66998.
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>>175868053
turn 5*
turn 4 on a nut draw*
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>managed to open every legendary in the expansion
>except minthe
Why does she hate me?
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DE was the perfect meta.
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>>175868476
No.
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>>175868476
>otomeme
>elana
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>>175868321
Thank you, Luna.
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>>175868476
If you ignore the fact that haven exists. Sure.
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>>175868476
I miss Tempo Elf. You just don't win games by bouncing Tia up and down anymore.
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>>175867627
Medium roll

I'll roll again
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reminder that this game used to be fun
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>>175868476
Fuck off Eris
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>>175868950
Its still fun if you dont bother with ranked
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>>175869029
yeah i love, playing against shadow and ramp dragon in unranked too!
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>>175869137
Cant really blame people for wanting to do their dailies easily and fast
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>>175869252
I understand spamming shadow in ranked in a month with score rewards. But if you take your shadow to unranked where I'm trying to finish a sword daily I will rope you.
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>>175869394
What if I'm playing Atomy?
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How many altar boys have Eris molested?

Imagine this sicko asking a boy to stay behind and help her clean the altar just so she can pin him down and ride his tiny pee pee against his will.
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>>175869252
i have an extremely shit amount of forest cards so it took me 4 hours to get 4 wins in unranked because of that shit
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>>175869479
I usually wait until they pull some catacomb/reaper bullshit before I get salty enough to start roping.
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>>175869394
>has the option of conceding and going again without consequence
>will probably finish the daily from all the time he spent roping
>ropes anyway

Are all people in /svg/ this dumb?
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>>175857451
Please post aggro blood. I dislike the meta decks and I don't have a lot of time to work with, so I just want fast games. The more lists the better, a short explanation about the choices of your list would be appreciated.
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>>175865772
>Facebook or Google Play

is this real or a meme
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>>175869750
>t. cuck who would take less than half in an ultimatum experiment
no that's what the shadowshitter wants fuck you
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>>175869993
It is. Check your missions.
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Yeah, this might've been the most insane deck I ever drafted.
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54928

need a concede please!
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Did I just get hit with revelation 2 fucking times into a double temptress vampire? How the fuck is anyone supposed to handle that when they spent the entire game doing nothing but bringing in wards with airjammer? what the fuck did I just see?
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>>175870342
thank you... even if you bought a SF skin
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>>175870301
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>>175870498
Well, this is a first.
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>>175870498
Fuck you, dude. You don't deserve that. What a bullshit fucking draft.
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>cerb in gbf draw last night
>cerb in pack today
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Wait. Anomaly delay forest is actually a thing? Poor thing, 3 bahas and Blast in hand.
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Please concede
75082
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>>175870775
>Anomaly delay forest is actually a thing?
no

>Poor thing, 3 bahas and Blast in hand.
yeah that's why
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Smash that luna nearby you, all you need is some suicidal tendencies.
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>>175870708
Oh you don't know the half of it. Surprised the dude actually didn't ragequit right there.
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>>175870924
Delete this image. kys blood is t2 so this is statistically (scientifically proven by numbers) to be impossible
>>
>plays pepe
>may -> guidance -> may
>plays a second pepe
>guidance -> may -> guidance -> may
>concedes
eat shit pepeshitter
>>
I'm in dire need of a storm haven deck.
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>>175870924
>1 drops in airjammer
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do you guys use one or multiple accounts
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>>175870924
Post dick
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>>175870881
Was worried for a second when whitewolf came.
Then he dropped 3 mangroves and i couldnt stop laughing and dropped baha. Then he dropped ancient elf, Anomaly and lock and i felt only pity.
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>>175870853
Thanks Urias
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>>175871062
>elf, aka, king of 3 metas, having an answer to a meme deck
really joggins my noggins
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>don't want to grind ranked

>don't want to miss on the monthly card backs

wat do?
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>>175871356
>don't want to grind ranked

this is an issue because..?
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>>175871356
Walfrid isn't worth subjecting yourself to this meta. Grind 4k for Sonia and take a break until the nerfs happen. That's my gameplan for this month.
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>>175871356
>don't want to play the game
>want to have the cosmetic items that i'll never see anyway
You reevaluate your life choices.
>>
Is there any point in grinding masters points if you aren't gonna get 15k?
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>lose on ranked
>let's go in arena
>first opponent is a master rank shadow with the selector supreme flair
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>Ramping no longer increases max mana. Instead, ramping adds one mana point to a mana reserve. Points in the mana reserve carry over between turns and can be spent to increase the player's current mana pool.

There, dragon is balanced, requires more thinking, and utilizes the Overflow mechanic more.
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>>175871068
Pretty sure you can do better than mine here but it served me decently well at AA3.
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>>175871757
stop posting bad suggestions and start posting more forte
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>>175871757
>activating overflow effects remove 1pp
There, dragon is balanced. They have so much ramp by now that such a change wouldnt hurt them at all
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>dragon automatically loses upon reaching turn 10
There, dragon is balanced. They have so much ramp by now that such a change wouldnt hurt them at all.
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>Turn 6 breath of the salamander
>Turn 7 breath of the salamander + blazing breath
>Turn 8 10 enhance lightning blast
>Turn 9 enhance grimnir
>turn 10 bahamut
Hopefully Dragon gets more removal next expansion. They really need it.
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>just got minthe/tyrant'd out of nowhere
DELETE pedoshits already
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PRAISE BURN RUNE
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>>175872171
I think they need more neutral cards that have eot/fanfare healing too
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>>175872004
>ramp dragon relies on 0 overflow effects except for oracle card draw
Thanks for the buff!
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Teach lunababbies the way of the Nep.
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>>175870924
>angel
>air jammer with wraith
congratz on your mom post though
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>>175872171
wow that dragon really bricked hard
it's more like:
>t6 bahamut
>t7 lightning blast / grimnir / saha isra
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>>175872175
Stupid sexy Satania, that's probably the only win he got off that combo all day
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>out of the last 3 haven players I fought I won all 3 with my aggro vampy
>didn't BM any of them
>they alt-f4'd to give me a timeout every single time

what's up with those cucks
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Should I keep this roll?
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>>175872175
>just got baha/zell'd out of nowhere
DELETE rowencucks already
>just got alberted out of nowhere
DELETE swordfags already
>just got roached/bolted out of nowhere
DELETE roachfuckers already
>just got dshifted out of nowhere
DELETE runeshitters already
etc
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>>175872175
>don't lose to the standard bullshit
>still cry
How can people be this insufferable?
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Never forget the duplicaust
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>>175872451
>lose
>cry
that's what it comes down to my man
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>>175872383
Good:
>Elf, Saha, Olivia, Daria
Okay:
>Serpent
Meme:
>Atomy
Awful:
>Flute
4 of the legendaries are good but they're spread out and don't really form the backbone of any relevant decks very well right now
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>>175872362
Havenfags are the most likely to BM and to disconnect. Even in unranked. Literally the worst.
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>>175872383
Its bad but at least you have 2 animated legos to vial
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>>175872562
You're forgetting 2 of them are animated and both are top tier. That makes it worth considering keep.
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>>175872383
Only Ancient Elf is worth something in this roll.
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>>175872562
Okay back to rerolls
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For the love of-
When i first pulled i got 2 Gingers and vialed them both. Now i pulled my current 3RD one.
Please stop Ginger, i cant love you! Im devoted to Isra!
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>>175872689
What are you even rerolling for? Do you have a class you're targeting?
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>>175872747
Yeah but look at how fucking sweet her animated effect is
Doesn't that make you want to open an animated one and meme it up
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>>175870696
Got two animateds I didn't have yet out of those.
I'm actually way more excited about the silver.
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Don't mind me, just appeasing the lord of cucks. I-I'm not intentionally hiding my neutrals. I only need Israfil! A-and maybe Zeus. I have 3 Saha 3 Baha though.
>>
how do you root bluestacks without downloading shady malware
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>>175872842
I want to kiss Ginger all over
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>>175872843
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>>175872842
Not him but I vialed my animated ginger right away. I also have 4 regular and vialed 2 of them. Keeping 2 just to be safe
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>>175873036
I have an animated Latham as well. I'm never going to use it, but I can't bring myself to vial it cause it looks cool.
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new player here, is this any good? I also have anomaly but i have literally no idea what im doing in regards to strat/combos
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WHY DO I NEED FUCKING ROOT TO REROLL?

i am not installing bs helper which is made by poo people
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>>175873036
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>>175873070
>vialing animated leggos
>a legend that devs said will design cards around next expansion
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>Dimension Shift can be ready to go at turn fucking 7
>Zero ways to counter it

I don't care if the deck is barely used now, that design will always be a fucking blight and they should formally apologize for ever creating it.
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>>175872842
>tfw Shadowverse will never have animated cards with actual effort put into them
>all of them are just some lame photoshop after effects stuff put on top of the card, never an actual animation
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>>175873154
>one roach

What the hell am I looking at?
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>>175873154
Probably can't rank up with it, but obviously is capable of stealing wins despite how bad it is.
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>>175873272
It's harder to do that with still images than to just slap on an effect
Plus they'd have to do it for every card which eats up a lot of budget
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>>175873154
This is decent as a budget Aggro deck for dailies.
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>>175872843
>>175873036
>this cuck is a swordcraft leader
Literally who
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>>175873232
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>>175873246
>a legend that devs said will design cards around next expansion
Really? Is it finally her time to shine?
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Our based Brazilian just called Israfil busted and a bitch
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>>175873368
Yeah I understand, it wouldn't be very feasible.
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>>175873231
You don't need to root to reroll. What the fuck are you doing? Just clear the app's data.
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>>175873272
>play budgetstone
>wahhh why aren't things as clean as they are in hearthstone
because you weren't willing to pay enough money for the superior product, faggot
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>>175873272
Minthe blinks its a start at least
And what do you expect? Animu magical girl transformation scenes when you evolve?
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>>175873438
oh, I misread. I thought they were going to redesign shit legendaries.
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>>175873547
I see. How much does it cost to play Hearthstone?
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>>175873547
Hearthstone is not superior, though.
It's run by a jewish as fuck company, gives you next to nothing for free and has so much RNG out the wazoo it's not even funny anymore.
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>>175873438
He's talking about Ginger. Dominator will be forever trash.
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>>175873440
Fuck off you huemonkey
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Post some HEAVY DUTY pepes.
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>>175873486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKMoJPP3psw

he says you need root on the android emulator
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>>175873616
But I'm not a huemonkey?
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Did I just lose to...
Aggro Dragon!?
He kept ramping up and just playing low cost followers.
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>>175873593
Do you have a car? How much did it cost you?
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>>175873647
Only if you want to save your rolls in case there's one you might want to come back to later but want to keep rerolling
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>>175873562
Some card games have properly animated cards so it IS possible
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>>175873593
Hearthstone costs around $100 every expansion. This will let you have a few viable decks, and will also let you experiment here and there since you've got most of the set.
>>175873607
Hearthstone is 100% superior than Shadowverse right now. The meta is a lot more diverse and it's a lot more fun. Everything looks better, plays smoother because it has an actual desktop interface instead of the shitty mobile port, and it's overall a more polished product.
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>>175873438
Are you retarded or...?

>>175873607
While I do think HS is shit, both it and SV have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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34709
Any kindhearted anons willing to help a little elf on her daily mission?
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>>175873707
why would someone go back to it when they've put in time in something already ?
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>>175873704
I lease, I pay around $270 a month I think.
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>>175873308
>>175873329
>>175873371
I-I have no idea how to farm vials to get more roaches, ive heard theyre good, (along with ancient elf?)
how does one get rupies, aside from completing all the story mode, which i havent done yet (f12 atm)
and what does 'aggro' mean? like aiming for face as much as possible?
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>>175873704
I got mine for 1000 USD. From some old lady who stopped driving and didn't feel like taking care of it anymore.
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>>175873758
>Hearthstone is 100% superior than Shadowverse right now. The meta is a lot more diverse and it's a lot more fun.
This x100.

However all it will take is shadow and dragon getting nerfed before Shadowverse becomes better again. But I'm kind of scared we'll see forest and dshift return to full cancer again so perhaps nothing will really change.
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>>175873758
>HS is superior
>good goy just cough up 100 dollars or more every expansion so you can have at least some fun
lmao

>>175873741
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>>175873741
What CCG is this?
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>>175873820
>Roll an okayish set of legendaries
>Maybe I'll keep this and come back to it if I don't find anything better but I want to keep rerolling
Or maybe you want to roll accounts for a friend or something
Who the fuck knows
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>>175873562
Zombie goblin has googly eyes. It's great.
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>>175873867
Complete the story mode, and win 20 private matches (against different people, ask here for private games or the reddit subreddit if you really want to get them out of the way quickly).

Aggro is defined by a faster style of play that is strongest at the start and falls off after turn 6 usually. Lots of burst damage like storm followers and direct damage. Aggro Blood is the cheapest and is decently viable.
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>seraph
>blast it
>seraph
>blast it
>only have 2 and know he runs 3 for sure
>aegis
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>>175873815
Thank you Luna
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>>175873938
dumb nicoposter
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>>175873440
Israfil is 9 pp heal4 without her buttbuddy or a evo point, if she ends up killing you any other big fatty would have done the same.
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>>175873976
but WHY?

why would you reroll, play on that account for a while and then go back to another reroll?
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>>175873867
>what does 'aggro' mean? like aiming for face as much as possible?

Effectively it means dropping your hand on the board constantly to try to out speed the other guy until you win.

>how does one get rupies, aside from completing all the story mode

The first time you defeat any AI on elite mode you get 200. You also get some for just logging in daily and completing daily missions.
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>>175873961
Infinity Wars, it's kinda dead now unfortunately.
Well, to be fair it wasn't the best ccg, but I liked the cards

This should be hearthstone_player.jpg
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>>175873938
Agreed. Anything before Un'Goro was easily leagues behind Shadowverse in terms of gameplay, but the latest expansion seems to be very enjoyable given that you can afford to participate.

>>175873946
I don't even play the game, but I'm not so devoted to a card game that I'll ignore the reality that we are experiencing the worst meta the game has ever exposed us to.
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>>175874025
>did nothing against dragon on turn 11
So you won, right?
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>>175873440
I had to turn off that stream when he was playing triple support cannon and saying "Luminyous Mage" repeatedly.
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>>175873867
>how does one get rupies, aside from completing all the story mode, which i havent done yet (f12 atm)
Daily missions, daily login rewards, story mode, achievements, score rewards. There are 3 achievements in particular that can net you a total of 4800 gold: the 2 Elite AI achievements and the Private Match achievement (it gives you 100 time each time you complete it, but it can be completed up to 20 times).
>and what does 'aggro' mean? like aiming for face as much as possible?
Aggro focuses around a strong early game and aims to end the game fast through huge early tempo and, commonly, burn, while also running out of steam fast and not having much tools to control the board.
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>>175874131
Who says you play on it for a while
It's for the people that are still rerolling but indecisive about whether or not they want to keep what they rolled
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>>175874169
Obviously
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>>175874169
If he is blasting it over and over he likely isn't doing much of anything himself. So if the haven guy had an evolve he likely would win that one.
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>Play deck
>only get matched against it's counters
>Play different deck
>Only encounter guys that would have lost to deck 1, but beat deck 2
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>>175873946
HS gameplay is superior since ToTG released. SV is and will always be cheaper to play.
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>>175873946
He's right. The HS meta is definitely more diverse and healthy at the moment. Although that doesn't really matter if you're a new player.
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>>175873593
If you want all the cards it's going to become about $900 a year supposedly.
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>>175874245
isn't it better to start a reroll, and stick to that account and collect cards?

i don't fucking get it, why would you

reroll > play on that reroll > reroll again
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>>175874205
right now?
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>>175874379
Honestly I think it's worse when you play a deck that yours counter but then they happen to have the most absurd god hand and luck and still win.
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>>175874382
>>175874429
>pirate warriors and quest rogues everywhere
all this fun
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>>175874462
Why do you keep insisting that they play on the reroll
You'd just keep doing tutorial -> opening packs -> new account -> repeat
and keep the ones that have decentish legendary pulls
then decide later which account out of the ones you've done that you actually want to start
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>>175874382
>more rng than ever along with netdeck supreme
>superior
>whats that goy? your deck is useless now because we removed a bunch of cards from the game? better pay another 2000$
you cant be serious
>>
>Play Nep
>Never draw Ledger or Nep
>Play aggro
>Never draw Phantom Howl
>Play Midrange
>Never draw Hector or Catacomb
>Play storm dragon
>Never draw Forte
>Play forest anything
>Never draw Roach
Fuck this shitty fucking shit ass game.
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>Haven't played for a week
>Log in to see if the ranked reset made ladder better
>This happens

Yeah, time for another week long break.
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>>175874937
git gud
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>>175874937
Should have played around Cygames being retarded.
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>>175874937
You'll regret all those lost rupies and log-in bonuses if you're a free player
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>VS Shadow
>"The opponent did not redraw"
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>>175874217
>>175874140
>>175874014
ah, thats a wealth of information that isnt really discussed in the op links (or maybe i just dont read enough);

are the only way to get legos/golds are to vial for them
or is it better to buy packs and pray to RNGesus?
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>Good things about HS
Discover and insteresting Gameplay
>good things about SV
Free whores and gameplay
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>>175873627
I can never pull off extra THICCC pepes cause everyone quits before i pull it off
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>>175875095
Nah. When a game becomes frustrating and feels more like work than fun it's when I drop it. I'm not like other people who fall for the sunk cost fallacy.
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>>175875136
You get a ton of packs just by playing dude, I wouldn't worry much about it. Game is very generous. Play ranked BTW.
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>>175874937
>>175875072
>wah wah nerf elena
All this shit again
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>>175875098
>he's first
>play a follower on t1
and that's how I smash that mf concede button
>>
Im bored please provide pepe deck
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>>175875136
Do both, obviously. Legendary ratio is around 1 every 8-9 packs, but getting specific legendaries isn't so easy, so you are better off crafting some.
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>>175875152
>bad things about HS
extremely low skill ceiling
extremely bad game balance
play 12 hours a day just to get started
>bad things about SV
community
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>>175874562
They don't even make up 20% of the meta put together. That's less than Ramp dragon alone.
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>>175875152
>Discover
>pull cards out of thin air among a gigantic card pool
>good because MUH PICK ONE OUT OF THREE
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>>175875398
I wouldn't say SV has a high skill ceiling nor good game balance at the moment.
>>
>play against dragon
>turn 1 dragon's nest
>turn 2 oracle
>turn 3 rahab
>turn 4 sibyl
>turn 5 salamander or another sibyl
>turn 6 sahaquiel + lucifer

just kill me end my life please
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>>175875398
>community
explain further
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>>175875256
>the sunk cost fallacy
When you use a term, learn the correct meaning and usage of it. Nothing I said has anything to do with sunk cost
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>>175875398
>community
by that what do you mean
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>>175875152
>bad things about SV
Shadowcraft
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>>175875512
This thread
Netdecking is frowned upon in /hsg/ and is not tolerated. Here its embraced and even has links to websites dedicated to netdecking in OP
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>>175875486
Just play the thinking man's class.
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>>175875486
>do a little mistake
>lose
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>>175875616
HAHAHAHAHA
Literally everyone in /hsg/ netdecks
Blizzshits can never think for themselves, it's the most casual and "PLS HELP ME HOW DO PLAY GAME?" game ever
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>all this HS shilling
I don't even care about its jewishness that much, but the gameplay is literally just rolling dice upon dice upon dice upon dice upon dice.
It's like they joked among themselves, saying "Oh, how random can we make this game that's already in a genre that's heavily RNG based?"
Then they literally just never stopped with that premise.
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>>175875616
>>
59795

need someone to concede to me really quick
much appreciated!
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>>175875486
Retarded dragoncucks still get punished for retarded plays. In RNGstone you get rewarded with free get out of jail tickets on an empty hand.
Whats that bro? Shit opening hand? Heres a free leggo from a 1pp on turn 1
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>>175875760
Good game design is hard, better just leave it up to the dice and let the players make their own fun.
>>
>match with First Farer flaired Dragoncraft in T2
>brick early game
>barely get by, opp playing like shit
>drops Ouro
>next turn Zeus
nice game
>>
>>175875858
>got so buttmad he made a pointless mspaint cartoon
I'm impressed, it must have hit a nerve.
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>>175875616
Are you pretending or is this genuine? If the later, man you have talent.
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>>175873232
>>175873417
I want to shove my face between those buttcheeks and inhale their regal scent
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>>175875616
>thinking that 4chan communities are reflective of anything
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>>175875939
>being this new
>>
Let's play Hearthstone in text form. I start:

>I play a spell that summons a random minion costing a random amount between 1 to 3 crystals - this minion does 1 damage to 3 random minions or the enemy hero upon entry

Your turn!
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>>175875858
>netdecker
>copy shit decks and use them
>dont understand why certain cards are in the deck or how the deck even works "Its master approved"
>dont even understand if the deck is good in the first place "a number said its good so it must be true"
>cry when he loses to other netdecks and shitpost on an chinese cartoon picture board how the other side that netdecks should kill themselves
>>
>find millions of animated assault werewolf, stolen life and goblin zombies
>still 0 animated pepe
what the fuck?
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>>175875939
>made
Shut the fuck up newfag.
>>
>>175875616
/hsg/ only hates netdecking because it's a broken game and netdecks are all cancer.
Shadowverse has no cancer decks, so it isn't something people care about.
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>>175875490
>tfw playing the greedist version of ramp dragon
>3rd baha never ever
>2nd israfil never ever

Never ever bricks
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>>175876010
The 4chan community for SV shares like 90% of its userbase with every other western community and I'd imagine it's the same for HS
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>>175875760
That's not a very healthy looking Karen.
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>>175875398
SV's balance right now is as bad or worse than the pre-nerf MSG meta.

You can argue that shit like RNG and impossible to play around cards makes for a lower skill ceiling which is fair. However HS also has things like positioning (both on board and in hand) and the ability to target your own guys with spells and effects.
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>>175875871
thank you sexy vampire girl
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>>175875886
It sounds like you've never actually played HS if you think you can't punish in it.

>>175876108
There's certainly disdain for netdeckers here.
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>>175876108
>Shadowverse has no cancer decks
????
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>>175876108
>Shadowverse has no cancer decks
nice
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>>175876108
>Shadowverse has no cancer decks,
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>out of the last 7 packs I opened I got 4 legendaries and 6 golds
I'm on a roll guys
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>>175876356
Name one.
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>>175876409
I got 5 legos in 6 packs last week, one being an animated Djannu
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>>175876108
Not even good bait and this is coming from someone who loves SV and hates HS.
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>>175876068
there's a difference between using something that's been tried and tested and being a literal retard
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>>175876108
>shadowverse has no cancer decks
And it only got worse when they added grimnir in the game
Who the fuck thought 16 face damage is ok? I want to shit on his grave when he dies
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>>175876409
>last five packs have had a total of one gold and a handful of silver
please kill me
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>>175876449
Try the 56% winrate class >>175876339
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Hey guys, I need a concede please

78277
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>>175876108
>Shadowverse has no cancer decks
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How do I convince myself to vial cards I don't want or use right now and think I probably won't use for a while so I can craft cards I actually want?

I can't bring myself to do it because maybe at some point I DO want those cards and then crafting them would be inefficient
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>>175876540
>50%
That's literally nothing.
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>>175876540
>mfw its ~22% for me when i'm playing against them
I have yet to get 56%'d in ranked. In unranked though? I get turn 4 atomemed every single time
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>>175876121
You're scaring me, anon.
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>>175876540
>mfw it's gotten so bad that during tournaments I shadow vs shadow has become coinflip unless one completely bricks
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>>175876108
>Shadowverse has no cancer decks
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>>175876449
Ramp Dragon and Midrange shadow comprise over 50% of the meta right now. That's more than Warrior and Shaman in HS's aggro heyday. That's also more than Daria + Elf during RoB. There has been complaining about both decks in every single thread since TotG launched.
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>>175876668
>dyslexia
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Be honest anon do you have as much fun now as you did in RoB or DE?
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>>175876786
I wish you Soul Dealers!
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>>175876873
>rounding
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>>175876409
>Out of the last 25 packs I opened I got 0 legendaries
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>>175876809
>there are only 1000 matches being played in master
Uhhh
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>play with the saha ramp netdeck on masters
>lose to everything
funny Elana 2.0 you guys have here
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Would First Curse be playable if the last card could go face
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>>175876917
I'll take it.
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>>175876889
I can't have fun. Every meme deck I try to play gets raped by Dragon and Shadow.
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>>175876889
I'd say it's about equal to pre-nerf RoB.
2 cancer decks rape everything.
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>>175876963
Do you open the packs the wrong way?
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>>175876589
guys onegai please I need help
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T-thanks for the 9 packs cygames.
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>>175876889
Yeah since I'm playing midrange shadow.
I do still want it to be nerfed, I'd rather play Haven.
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>>175876978
What deck would want it
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>>175876889
Went from Aggro blood to vengeance so I'm having even more fun.
I do miss my wife, Midnight Vampire though.
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>>175876889
I played shadow exclusively since I started in DE so no it was not fun for me.
Having a blast now though even though people call me a filthy bandwagoner which is pretty funny
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>>175875514
If a game is shit I just drop it. I don't feel compelled to grind for rupies if I don't enjoy it. Sorry you're chained by the game.

>>175876889
No. Even when I win I don't have fun knowing that it's more the shadow or dragon bricking than me winning.
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Can this eagle build take me to masters? It does well in AA0.
Grail is 1 copy.
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>>175877181
Dshift?
Dirt maybe?
idk
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>>175876889
No.

I'm in AA3 so things are especially bad given how much tryharding I see. Anecdotally speaking I would venture over 70% of my games are against either Ramp dragon or MR/Aggro shadow. I barely maintain a 50% WR against them when I try to play any other class and when I occasionally decide to suck it up and play one to climb I find that the mirrors are decided by shit like who goes first or orthus RNG hitting a stealthed reaper.
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>>175877016
>>175877035

>>175877121
>>175877217
>>175877231
:C Want a huggy little bbs?
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>>175876867
Yeah, I don't know. I'm at a relatively high rank (B3) and while there are a lot of shadow, the meta is relatively healthy and I'm seeing a nice mix of competitive decks, from Aegis Haven to Control Sword to Flame & Glass DShift Rune.
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>>175877250
Craft two Moons
Take out Themis and Grail
Throw in another Tribunal for the Dragon matchup
Take out Prism Priestess and replace her with something, not sure right now not home so can't check my own deck list
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>>175877250
>2x decree
Isn't it a brick? Dark Jeanne is Storm Haven's Themis.
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>>175877312
You need to go back.
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>>175877263
0
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>>175877412
>relatively high rank (B3)
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>>175877231
>Sorry you're chained by the game.

Sorry you don't know how to use "sunk cost fallacy" correctly LOL
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>>175877412
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>>175877057
Still need help with a concede

78277
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>>175877312
Can I have a hug?
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>>175877520
>He didn't even deny it
You have my sympathies.
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>>175877412
>at a relatively high rank (B3)
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Just got this, thinking about crafting the 2 missing, is still a top tier or just a meme deck now?
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>>175877609
Don't post this, I've just fapped.
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>>175876889
I'm having more fun with vengeance blood than I did in DE and RoB with aggro blood so there's that. I do miss aggro blood though. It just can't compete with a turn 3 rahab.
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i dont know what im doing and im new

help

im just dragging my cards on the enemy cards and ending a turn
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>>175876889
My favorite deck is dead and even if it wasn't, Cygames only gave dirt meme cards this expac
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>>175877412
>relatively high rank (B3)
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>>175877412
>relatively high rank (B3)
You haven't even cleared the tutorial bro. You can get to A with a sub 50% winrate, that's how easy it is. A is when you have to play a real deck to climb. AA is when the fun stops.
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hwo do i netdecked?!
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>>175877763
Drag your cards on the enemy's face instead.
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>>175877716
Neither, its garbo
>2 missing
You wouldn't even want to run 3, that's enough bricks to build a house with
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>>175877454
Play Storm Haven
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Is Queen Vampire worth crafting?
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>>175877763
just hit face bro
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>still no aegis
>have to do this shit for dailies
Fuck all of you that got 3x aegis and dont even play haven
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>>175877698
>thinks I have to deny an accusation he didn't use correctly

Didn't know you were this stupid
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>>175877829
I think he's talking about memefrog and not Aegis
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>>175876889
Now that I've crafted a set of Alberts and Dank Jeanne I do, yes.
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>>175877998
Play Storm Haven
>>175877263
>>175877971
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>>175877998
I disenchanted two so I could afford another Cerb.
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>i have to keep doing the same missions over and over again to reroll

uhhhhhhh
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>>175878113
>"2 missing"
>2 frogs in pack
>meaning only missing 1
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>>175876889
I started in RoB and immediately made OTK Roach and had a blast. Once that got nerfed I made a Seraph deck and an Albert deck because I had the cards for it and it was ok. Now I'm playing kys Blood and having fun when I'm not getting stomped, once Shadow and Dragon get nerfed I think the meta will be fun.

Also I've been stuck at 1000 points away from Master for a while now.
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>>175877825
>>175877796
>>175877609
>>175877464
>>175877704
Thanks for the (You)'s, they're like gold to me
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>>175877625
Thank you Thank you Thank youuuu Vania-rino!
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>>175878156
You can skip the tutorial
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>>175878256
how
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>>175878174
fug I read wrong no bully
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>>175878140
Yeah let me just waste 14000 vials so that i can get that 50 gold daily real quick
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>>175878190
post your All-time (You) count
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>>175878296
There is a very clear skip button on the top right corner
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>>175878075
>If I repeat it enough times it'll be true
>STILL didn't deny it

Sad!
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>>175878401
wew lad
>>
Remember not to sit on your extra vials that are rotting away from 3 non-animated cards when you have some animated copies
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I finished downloading the game.

So, best way to reroll? How do I maximize the profits
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>>175878309
You might as well because Storm Haven isn't going anywhere, it's here to stay.
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>>175878557
Ask Reddit, since you obviously came from there.
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>>175878557
>roll for something with more than 8 legos and at least 5 good legos for
>show your roll here
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>>175878663
What's a lego
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>>175878557
Look for around 7-8 legendaries and post your rolls here.
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>>175878548
>not vialing the animated copies
retard
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>>175878697
It's a small colorful building block toy
Looks kinda like this
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>>175878697
Legendary cards with shiny bord
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>>175877420
I actually have 2 moons, but 3 damage for 6 mana has always seemed weak when I played it.

>>175877439
It's only a themis against a shadow board with the weakest followers, which is rare at 6 mana. Themis is just a crazy comeback card if they clear your board or are about to outaggro you.
>>
Anyone else want to kiss Vania?
Is it normal?
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>>175878860
Moon is basically just a budget Albert, which, as it turns out, is still pretty good
Also you should run lion spirits
Lion spirit into Jeanne usually clears most boards
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>>175878860
Friendo, you evolve Moon, then hit face, or trade if you have to, then drop Jeanne next turn and gg
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>>175878409
>Didn't deny he used "sunk cost fallacy' incorrectly

Stupid!
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rerolled this on my first attempt

keep?
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>>175878924
Yes
Yes
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>>175875939

Funny, I didn't know DesolatorMagics fans spent money on other card games.

>Which they don't because they're all poor "homebrewers"

Saying "Stop Netdecking". Is like telling me to not play something good until someone else smashes me with it enough times that I see the cards they use and then I use them. Or in your case, use something trash and then when you lose chalk it up to "netdecker"
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>>175879113
Definitely
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>>175879161
Fucking disgusting
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>>175879161
I want to lick Vania's chest!
>>
fuck this game, it's against every principle of user friendly interface
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>>175878782
>vialing something you can only create through top 1000 masters or randomly pulling from a pack
retard
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>>175879161
I want to kiss Vania's gluteal fold!
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>>175879321
Did you accidentally vial a lego
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>>175879429
no im fucking new and i dont know how to open crates or see my own fucking cards
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>>175879113
You're supposed to open the card packs, anon
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>>175879358
Fuck animated cards, gimme the vials
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>>175879472
>shop
>buy packs
>use the tickets
You will get used anon
>>
>when you have three yurius on the field and the enemy is a luna with skeleton babuschka prince

lel
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>>175879508
>30 vials vs 10 vials
yeah fuck that
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>>175879508
You monster!
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>>175879508
this is the last time I click on this
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I pulled 3 tarnished grails. Is there a good deck I could make with these or should I just liquify them?
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Any sweet lethals lately?
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>>175879508
absolute madman
now do it for your animated ancient elf
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>>175879551
i have 10 tickets and 130 rupies on my first acc

waste all of it?
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>>175879726
what kind of tickets?
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>>175879726
You should have like 50 tickets or something spread out among all the different sets right now
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>>175879724
you cant vial basic cards
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>>175879653
Candelabra haven
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>>175879726
You cant waste tickets. They're basically free packs. Why dont they just give you the packs directly you might ask? Who knows
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>>175879161
>>175879319
>>175879390
>>175878924
Fuck off, vampypedos
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>>175879907
She's actually many hundreds of years old and very mature, okay?
>>
i'm vampy's ken so cool
>>
Can we get an option to have animated cards count towards extras for mass liquefy yet
Holy shit doing this manually is tedious as fuck
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>>175878924
I want her to kiss me and suck my blood.
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>>175879907
>2017
>being gay
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>>175880009
>supreme sock artisan
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>>175880207
this one is too lewd, delet
the other one was safe
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>>175879816
i dont know what im doing and its fucking annoying with this terrible user interface

tempest of the gods (22 tickets)
standard card pack (10 tickets)
darkness evolved (10 tickets)
rise of bahamut (10 tickets)
>>
>Hydra
so this card is useless right
>>
>>175880423
Comboes with Zell for a crazy 10 damage burst on turn 9.
>>
>you will never torture a shadowcuck to death

I haven't felt this rage since F-Zero GX
>>
>>175880386
How can you have trouble with the UI?
Did you even change the resolution and fps yet?
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>>175880423
Zell
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>>175880009
>very mature
Vania is just an old kid

>>175880207
>2017
>being a pedo
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>>175880520
im using an android emulator
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>>175880490
Isn't Zell Ouro almost always better
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>>175880571
yup, hydra is trash
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>>175880497
Play yurius on turn 2
Watch shadowcucks concede since there is nothing they can do about it
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>>175880638
>zombie party
bye
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Can I safely liquify anything from this?
>>
Do I run blazing breath in ramp y/n? Or should i get greedy and replace with dork?
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>>175880721
>passing turn 2 as an aggro shadow deck
Thanks for conceding!
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>>175880827
You must be stupid, I play zombie party to remove shit like yurius all the time and it's easy wins still
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>>175880801
Flies and fairy princess. Anomaly also but he could get support.
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>>175880801
Anomaly,fairy princess and lord of the flies are your safest vials
inb4
>hurr ginger
Who knows what shit we'll get next expansion. Evolve effects and end of turn effects still trigger with ginger
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>>175880827
...aggro doesn't run Zombie Party.
Midrange does.
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>>175880801
Depends what your definition of safely is.

I'd say you're fine if you get rid of
Fairy Princess
Deepwood Anomaly
1x Crystallia Tia
Lord of the Flies
Woldwielder Ginger
>>
>>175880801
The chances of LotF ever being used again are extremely low now that shadow has better 7-drops like Khawy/Eachtar/Thane
But you never know
>>
too lazy to stitch the pictures into one

how's this reroll?

http://imgur.com/a/SGEZ7
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>>175881140
jesus christ dude we only need to see your golds and legendaries
filter them on the top right
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>>175881140
why tf did you take pictures of ALL your cards
you can filter by legendaries only and just post those
no1s gonna sift through your 300 cards to spot the legendary ones
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>>175881140
yea you got some Goblins bro. Keep for sure.
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>>175881261
Fuck off back to /r/shadowverse you underage shitstain
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>>175880801
Lord of the RNG was killed by Khawy, buried by Thane, then revived and burned alive by Eachtar. He is never going back to being relevant.
Fairy Princess is garbage.
Anomaly is meme tier.
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>>175881226
>>175881261
>>175881289
do i trash bronze and silver always?
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>>175880957
outskilled
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>>175880980
>Tia
>fine
No. 3x Tia was meta in the past. It isn't safe at all.
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>>175881370
no, we just don't need to see that shit
it doesn't matter which ones you have
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>>175881370
yes, bronze and silver cards are of lesser quality than gold and legendary (duh, just like in real life)
just trash them for easy vials to make more golds. the more golds the more likely you'll win usually.
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>>175881370
No but bronze/silver cards are easy to get so it doesn't matter which ones you get.

You should re-roll. Thats pretty bad.
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>>175880827
>Zombie Party
>aggro
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>>175881506
how do i know if its bad or good?
>>
>>175880957
>could have evolved a single skelly and killed off yurius
>haha I'm unga I only hit face xD
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>>175881370
Absolute trash roll. Reroll.

>>175864952
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>>175881370
No bronze and silvers are easy to come across and cheap to craft so there's no point in listing them.

I'm not really liking that roll either. You got a lot of golds but you also have some useless legendaries at the moment with Satan, and lord of le flies.
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>>175881357
what

>>175881370
no, they're still used
you can't just fill your deck with only golds and legos, majority of your deck will still be bronze/silver but you dont need to post those because they're cheap to make and it doesn't matter which ones you got
you only got 5 legos so you should reroll
aim for 7+ minimum
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>>175881525
we tell you
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I memed for whoever posted that janky ass pendant burn deck. Sucks massively if you don't hit pendant ever (Happened twice in a row) but it's super funny to play.

>Aggro amulet haven
>Confused when I did nothing most turns
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>>175881525
Post the rolls here and we'll tell you.
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>>175881585
so im not at all supposed to liquidify cards? i have to have x amount of bronze, silver, gold and lego in all my decks?
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>>175880497
Just make the fucking deck. Midrange is fun.
I made mine yesterday and I've already gone through the entirety of AA2.
Of course, It helps that I literally drew a whole playset of eachtar from packs. Number 3 came from those apology packs the other day.
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>>175881525
Post your golds and legendaries here and we will help you. You can look into the pastebin as well even if its kinda outdated.

>>175881585
Stop typing like an underage faggot or fuck off back to plebbit, newfag.
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>>175881370
re roll
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>>175881635
JO dragon is t1
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>>175881684
>so im not at all supposed to liquidify cards?
no, you are
just mostly golds and legos, only time you ever really liquefy bronze/silver is when you have over 3 of them

>i have to have x amount of bronze, silver, gold and lego in all my decks?
no, there's no restriction
I simply mean that there's not enough good gold/lego cards per deck archetype so you will have to fill the remaining slots with bronzes and silvers after you choose what to go for

don't worry about it too much right now, just reroll until you have a good amount of legos

>>175881834
I've been here longer than you've had pubes on your balls you retarded troglodyte. Oh look, I'm typing all proper now. Woo.
Do you think you're some kind of super-brain because you type properly on a fucking anonymous imageboard? You're the one who has to go back if you think shit like this is important. There's no "etiquette" here, unlike on reddit. Where you're probably from, which is why you're trying to enforce it. Ironic of you to say shit like that.

but now ill go back to typing however i want because youre not relevant in any way shape or form
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>Opened my first altered fate today
>want to play disco/ptp memes but don't want to spend 1600 more vials
feels bad..
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Wow, the enemy Dragon just killed me by spamming ouroboros into lightning blast into grimnir into bahamut into lightning blast into bahamut into grimnir

Well played!!
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>>175882057
no, you aren't* in the first sentence oops
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>>175882057
>just mostly golds and legos

im feeling conflicted here, do i liquidifity all cards that i have several of or only golds and legos?
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>>175882168
reroll because your pulls were garbage
don't think about liquefying yet
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Is it consider netdecking if I dont look up decks on website but just play rank mode alot to the point i know 95% of the deck even though I never played it?
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>>175858574
She looks so cute in that pic...
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>>175881927

after playing the last 10 games with it, I feel like you're lying to me. Even if you are right.
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>>175881927
Anyone have an updated JO list with grimnir?
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>>175882313
Who gives a shit about a stupid title made up by dumbshits who have never played another competitive card game in their life
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>>175882313
People will say it isn't and call you a paradigm of intelligence but it is.
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>>175882313
Netdeck has nothing to do with websites, netdecking has existed before the internet did.
Copying the deck from your bud IRL while playing MTG was netdecking. Copying a deck you played against is (could) be netdecking, but it's not like you can know 100% of his cards unless he literally decked out.
Anyway you shouldn't give a shit, play whatever the fuck you want.
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>>175882313
who gives a hoot
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>>175882313
Netdecking is a buzzword.
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>>175882057
>Type like a 12 year old 9gag browins faggot
>Get called out for being a new
>lol no u
Great rebuttal my newfriend.
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>loss, loss, loss, loss
I sure love playing against ramp dragons on perfect curves seemingly every single match
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>>175882313
The reason bitching about netdecking is retarded is because there's not actually any rhyme, reason, or strategy to deck building beyond curve and win condition.
Think about it like this. Sometimes a decklist will have one copy of a value card like Urd or Mentor's teachings. Why? It'll be helpful in some situations, sure, but does it increase or decrease the number of wins the deck would be able to achieve? For every game you win with a 12 damage albert, there might be another one or two you would win if you drew luminous on turn 5 instead of mentor.
The only way to know if a decklist is better or worse than another is playtesting it in the current meta, across hundreds of games.
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>>175882772
Just storm bro.
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>>175882605
>hehe u type in ways that i dont like u must be new
Hey bud, guess what? No one gives a shit. While you're over here legitimately red in the face over how people type on the internet, the rest of us were actually contributing to discussion about the game.
And weirdly enough, you didn't bitch at the person asking the questions when he was typing the exact same way that I was while I was replying to him. Weird, no?
Nice capitalization of greentext by the way. Great way to show how new you are.
Here's a whole post typed """properly""". Am I a true """""intellectual""""" like you now?
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What is this otome garbage
Who thought it would be a good idea to pander to fujoshits
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>finally get enough vials to make ramp dragon today
>start to play
>internet goes down
Dammit, what anime should I rewatch while I wait? Stein gate, sabagebu, haruhi, or trigun?
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>>175883102
>heterosexuality
>pandering to fujoshits
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THIS WORD MEANS?!
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>>175883207
Its more about the fact that she wants to fuck every single man she comes across to the point its her very own plot armor
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You know why ToG is more cancerous than RoB when daria/roach was at its prime?

Because in RoB you can actually tech against forest with control sword and daria with saha/haven. And dshift will kill saha/haven for a full cycle.

But in ToG it doesn't work that way. You can't tech against aggro/mid shadow. Even haven cannot deal with all the burst damage and zombie/skeletons. And if you do play haven or (literally any other deck that isn't aggro) you autolose to dragon. Dshift can't even win against dragon half the time even with godhands.

tl;dr verison: you can't tech against shadow board control or dragon zell+ouroboros burst damage.

Tempest is by FAR the worst expansion. You either play aggro decks or lose to dragon.
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>>175883149
Sabagebu is fun
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>>175873627
Pepe is for comfy games
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>>175883378
>you can tech against turn 4 full board control daria along with 5 face damage.
Do tell. I'm waiting.
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>>175883378
Elanadragon should be 5pp
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>>175883378
There is one exception to this rule.
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>>175883428
Post dick
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>>175883378
>tldr for 8 sentences
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>>175883534
This was just retarded bitching. Daria rarely came out at turn 4 with multiple other threats. Daria exploded most of the time on turns 5-6 and it could be countered by Haven, Dragon and CBlood, seeing as how those decks actually had a significantly high winrate against it.
Shadow is uncounterable.
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>>175883534
Haven ate Daria for breakfast, you dumb shit.
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>>175883534
I play daria and I literally never gotten daria out on turn 4. 5 is the earliest, but then again I only played daria after the nerf. The thing about daria is if you are playing haven and its turn 6, you have a CHANCE a winning by them decking out. Even if you themis shadow board then can just use zombie pact or death breath again into eactar.
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>>175883378
If you don't want to join the cancer, the only winning move is to play decks that counter Dragon, the only semi-counterable meta deck. You get raped by Luna but there's nothing you can do about it anyway. The best move is obviously to stop playing the game until the nerfs happen.
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>>175883742
Wrong. Turn 4 was the best turn and wasnt unlikely. 90% of other times she'd come out on turn 5/6 and sometimes TWICE in that single turn.
Daria was the most retarded bullshit deck that shadowverse has ever seen and nothing you newfags complain about in ToTG can even come close to it
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>>175883742
Really curious to hear your definition of "significantly high'
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>>175883402
Yeah, it'll definitely cheer me up
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>>175883915
You clearly never played the deck if you think turn 4 Daria was a normal occurrence
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Still trying to decide if Galretto is a good card or not.
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>>175883742
>decks with themis and revelation had high winrate against it

Woah.
Like.
Never would have guessed.
Its almost the same thing as with blood right now which is shitting hard on both aggro and mid shadow.
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>>175883915
Everything about this post is wrong.
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>>175883858
>counter dragon

Beside aggro shadow, no other deck can counter it well. I played KYS blood and I lose 70% of the time if Im not in vengence by turn 4 and with turn 5 airjammer.

Unless you are playing dragon mirror with more storm cards.
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And on this note, i'm done trying to make this trash can work.

>Did another 10 unranked
>Shadow/Dragon T0 constantly wtf why
>Finally against not aids
>The perfect roach

Didn't even use 1 goblin mage, fml
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>>175883803
Really?
It's not even that hard actually, there's multiple combinations.
t1: Insight (Cost 8)
t2: Craig (Cost 6)
t3: Clarke/Craig/2pp spell+1pp spell (Cost 4)

Even worked without Insight t1
t1: - (Cost 9)
t2: Craig (Cost 7)
t3: Craig + Insight (Cost 4)

>>175884092
It was a normal occurrence. I played her a lot in RoB.
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>>175884174
> I played KYS blood and I lose 70% of the time if Im not in vengence by turn 4 and with turn 5 airjammer.
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>>175873627
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>>175883915
So friend, how, exactly, is Daria/DShit any different from Rowencraft? They either brick or they don't. If they brick, you win, If they don't, you're fucked. How is it any different?
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>>175884128
Blood doesn't shit on Shadow, you fucking D rank. Nothing shits on Shadow. Shadow's worst match up is the fucking mirror.
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>>175883568
Frontlines pepe doesnt work anymore thanks to all those dank as RNG remove spells and high attack wards
This works pretty well though
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>>175883915
You aren't even trying anymore
>>175884174
Dragon has no real counters right now because there's nothing to counter, their deck is ramp, removal, healing, and burst damage. The only way to counter dragon is to rush them down, which only Shadow can do because of how sticky their board is.
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>>175884174
>I played KYS blood and I lose 70% of the time
You're doing it wrong. KYS Blood is a decent counter to Dragon.
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>>175884234
>4 card combo that needs to be drawn in the right order
>consistent
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>>175884128
https://syadoreco.com/web/analytics/overview/0/25/5/12

Which blood deck are you referring to?
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>>175884276
????
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>>175884294
>yurius doesnt shit on shadow
>calls me Drank
>hurr just magically produce zombie party out of your ass every time he is played
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>>175884336
Why would we need a counter to a 50% of WR deck?U
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>>175884413
It's not consistent. No one said that.
But if you played the deck enough you saw that combo multiple times a day.
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>>175884234
That's not even possible to be a normal ocurrence, you retard. Do you realize how specific those hands need to be? Just do the math for it and you'll see how retarded you are.
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>>175884234
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>>175884546
We can say the same shit for dragon and shadow
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O opened 27 packs and got 1 legendary
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>>175884403
>decent
Once they drop silbyl at 6pp and ramp once more before turn 4. It's already game over unless they brick.
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>>175884634
How does this post even make any sense?
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>>175884546
Just about the same as "hurr shadow always plays catacomb on a full board on turn 3 and then has 2 shadow reapers for turn 4" or dragons infamous sahabahazell on turn 7
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>>175881370
>animated dragoon
you treat that boy right anon
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>>175873627
Omae wa shindeiru
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>>175884480
Yurius can be taken out with Orthus+1 hit. Either way there's no way you can outdamage them as Blood unless you kill yourself, and as aggro you'll run out of resources way before they do.
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>>175884546
Yeah just like how Dragon doesn't ALWAYS have t2 Oracle, t4 Rahab and t6 Salamander, yeah?
There's literally nothing unusual about having an Insight t1 and Craig t2 while playing Daria.
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>>175884789
people told me to reroll

i guess i got tricked ?
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>>175884815
Except doing it with Daria requires you to have another card in your hand at the beginning of the game
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>>175884815
Drawing all 3 cards is different than playing all of them while they're in your hand for spellboost.
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>>175884894
Which is also in no way special
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>>175884835
Not really, it's just an animated card. You could roll better than that.
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>>175884934
>>175884894
And they always have Albert t5? and they always have Elana t3?

omg cygames pls nerf
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I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
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>>175884781
Which is why it's dumb to evaluate decks best on anecdotal god hands and you need to rely on statistics. Daria was statistically unfavored against a bunch of different tier 2 decks (all Haven, control Blood, Saha ramp) and only modestly favored against most other decks. Shadow is far more broken.
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>>175883369
Before human society developed, that's literally what women would do in the wild whenever they went into heat you fucking retarded assnugget
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>>175885051
there's no trolling ITT, people are just really this dumb
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>>175885020
shit wish I could manage it.
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>D-Daria was hard to pilot! There's ~~~NO WAY~~~ you could get the perfect cards in the order you need them in!! Don't compare us to those Shadownibbas! We weren't as bad!
Why do people try talking about decks that they've never even touched?
Have they heard of mulliganing things before?
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>>175885020
>And they always have Albert t5?
Yeah because you are essentially playing 6 copies of him
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>>175885020
Cygames should nerf my opponent playing cards
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>olivia t9
>ouro+zell t10
>arena
fucking christ
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>>175884781
Yes, so? The point some retard started is that Daria was apparently uncounterable because of that specific combo, when that shit isn't consistent in the slightest. If they managed to pull it off it was pretty much a win for them, but it didn't happen often enough to say that Daria has no counter because of it.
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>>175885020
Always having turn 5 Albert is actually legit because of Maid Leader. Getting one Elana on turn 3 isn't that hard either since you have 3-4 card draws by turn 3 along with mulligan.
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>>175885059
Daria didnt need a god hand though. You only needed levi and daria in hand to win
Thats literally it
You can brick with 3 darias and you'd still win because you only needed that 1 daria to win. Using all 3 of them would mean you lose to fatigue
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>>175885171
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>>175884835
you didnt get tricked, disco is for the 70s its outdated shit tier
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>>175885196
If it's uncounterable then why dont people play Daria anymore? Checkmate.
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>>175885243
>Daria was statistically unfavored against a bunch of different tier 2 decks (all Haven, control Blood, Saha ramp) and only modestly favored against most other decks
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>>175885243
Alright this post confirms it. You have no fucking clue what the hell you are talking about.
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>>175885282
are you retarded
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>>175885342
Not an argument.
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>>175884835
Dragoon is a fucking meme.
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>>175885196
>The point some retard started is that Daria was apparently uncounterable because of that specific combo,
That has literally never been my point. Not once have I said that she's uncounterable because of that combo.
Someone else said that this combo was hard to pull off and I posted that it wasn't. That's the extent of my participation in this reply chain.
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Daria's stats before the nerf.
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>>175885498
>>175883534
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97281
Concede, please
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>>175885596
That's not my post.
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>Daria wasnt bad! Shadow is worse! W-what? Daria is the o-only deck in the game that had the m-most nerfs done to i-it?
>w-well...
>l-look at all these s-shadow numbers made up! i-its worse than daria i tell you! I-it was statistically impossible for d-daria to be played turn 4 or 5!! N-nobody has ever done that!
>J-just shut up! T-they just randomly d-decided to nerf d-daria for no reason at a-all!
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>>175885675
I said "some retard", not "you".
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Last 10 matches had 7 dragons and 3 shadows.
I complained about the exact same thing yesterday but you all seem to think shadow is worse.
Most dragons were budget players until now. Now they have all or most of the 60k vials they needed to play ramp.
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It's impossible to get 7 legos on a new roll
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>>175885802
Don't bother with quantity, look for quality.
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>>175885503
nobody cares about stats, what's important is my memory
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>>175885726
Yeah but you see, >>175884234 is my post, while >>175885675 isn't. But you're bitching about the former since you mentioned combo, since I'm the one who posted said combo.
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>>175885702
>PTP wasnt bad! Daria is worse! W-what? PtP is the o-only deck in the game that had the m-most nerfs done to i-it?
>w-well...
>l-look at all these s-shadow numbers made up! i-its worse than PP i tell you! I-it was statistically impossible for P-PTP to be played turn 7 or 8!! N-nobody has ever done that!
>J-just shut up! T-they just randomly d-decided to nerf P-PtP for no reason at a-all!
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>>175885802
how many times have you rolled
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>>175885702
>Daria is the o-only deck in the game that had the m-most nerfs done to i-it?
>what is Forest
Your baits are terrible, shadownigger.
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>>175885901
2

takes too much time as well
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>>175885871
Pretty much. Those guys are delusional.
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>>175885889
Err, the 2nd link was supposed to link to the post that YOU linked to where I said it's not mine.

>>175885802
It's actually very much possible. You even have more packs to start out with than we did back in the day.
I had 8 (2 animated) legos on the roll that I started the game with, and I didn't get any free ToG backs back then like you did now.
>>
has anyone been playing that otk azazel deck?
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/3146/control-blood-w-azazel-otk

how are its matchups?
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>>175885918
>daria was so overpowered that she was her own craft
And people still say shadow is cancerous
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>>175885802
RE roll
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>>175885894
Actually if you alter fate fast enough you can get PtP on turn 5.
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>>175885931
what the fuck
you can reroll in like 5 minutes or less
how are you doing it
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>>175885931
Rerolling takes 5 minutes. What the fuck are you doing? Are you not skipping the tutorial?
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>>175886069
>>175886056
i wipe the data and then do it all over again
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>>175885649
Help me out, /svg/

97281
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>>175886029
Piercing Rune was played by literally every Rune deck before the nerfs.
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>>175886096
are you doing it on an android emulator/phone/tablet
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>>175886242
android emulator
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>>175886096
>head to phone settings app or w/e its called inside the emulator and delete cache for SV
>start game
>skip through tutorial
>open your packs (click the skip button, don't open them manually)
>check what you got
>reroll if shit aint good
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>>175885894
>ptp
>turn 7 or 8
How high are you right now >>175869252
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>>175886292
And it takes you longer than 5 minutes to clear cache and skip through the entire tutorial to open your packs?
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The funny part was after nerfs with some guys complaining about diverse meta and how was impossible to tech against everything
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how's this?
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>>175886027
is there a more up to date deck list?
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>>175886504
>9

I would keep.
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>>175886504
>Tsubaki,Sahaquiel,Eachtar,2xBahamut
You won't be able to make a deck right now but 5 META legos is a pretty good start
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>>175886504
keep
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>>175886607
>>175886602
>>175886617
lord of the flies is trash, isn't it?
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>>175886469
After the daria nerfs you had albert to deal with. You can play control all you want but nothing that would save you from a 10 damage on turn 9 nuke would help vs other decks or daria
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I am so fucking close to just roping every shadow bandwagoner I see.
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>>175886504
Crazy goo catch.
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>>175886504
Keep
Saha + double baha can go into almost every deck you make until you start getting better cards for that craft and it'll steal games sometimes
Two animated legendaries is pretty good if you decide on a deck you want to make, though serpent kinda sees fringe play so you might not want to liquefy that
Tsubaki and Eachtar are both fantastic
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>>175886829
>goo
>poo

Nigga that's good.
>>
Daria wasn't even the worst deck in RoB, Roach OTK was far worse and was near midshadow-tier in terms of winrate. Thankfully it was too hard for the bandwagoners, Daria was easier.
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>>175886664
It's usable.
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>>175886664
No
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>>175886664
Yeah, he's too inconsistent and you'll rarely get what you want from him when you play it. Eachtar, Khawy, Thane, and enhanced Zombie Party are all better 7 PP cards.
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>dragoncuck plays pendant
>mutagen bolt his shit
lmaoing@your life dude
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>>175886664
It's not amazing but it'll do as a placeholder 7-drop until he pulls better stuff to replace it, at which point it becomes 1/3rd of a new lego
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>>175887025
>>175887025
>>175887025
migrate
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How do I transfer the cards from the emulator to my Steam now?
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>>175886504
>8 legos
>2 animated
That's 10.5 legos worth. There you go. Keep that.
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>>175887072
Go to More -> Device Link
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>>175886504
Thats pretty good, very diverse, 2500 vials right off the bat with betrayalstorm serpent.

I spent 5000 vials on that stupid snake riding the hype on release.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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