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/fhg/ - For Honor General Anonymous 05/03/17(Wed)15:59:22 No.175777924▶>>175780304
ACTUAL NARUTOS EDITION
Previous thread: >>175777924

>Season 2 info: New maps, New gear, New heroes
https://pastebin.com/ctyZRLjg

>New V1.06 patch is here, Warden/PK/Shugoki nerfs, Orochi buff

https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-289202-16/

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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*teleports behind you
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First for WE ARE LEGION
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first for naruto run
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>ATTACK BOOSTS NO LONGER AFFECT FEATS

FINALLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

NO MORE JAVELINS AND BOWS THAT ARE ONE HIT KILLS
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Wow you sure fucked up this OP but WHO GIVES A SHIT SHINOBI IS LITERALLY NARUTO
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top OP lad
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NO MORE FLICKER
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X for No Femturion

I just wanted my Roman Amazon...
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>>175857496
WE ARE LEGION, AVE IMPERATOR
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>>175857330
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>>175857530
>Bombringer is no longer viable
Sad day really
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>>175857614
the zones?
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NO MORE GUARD BREAK FEINT
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>Spoiling all gear
How lame is that
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FOR HONOR IS SAVED

THE DEVS ARE OKAY NOW
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>>175857930
0%
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>CENTURION HERO TRAILER
AAAAAAAAAA
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>>175857942
Warlord still broken
PK still speedy
What drugs are you on
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FUCK THE SHINOBI ANIKEKS

WHO /GLADIATOR/ HERE
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Conq is actually doing well in terms of win/loss, but they are working on changes to him since his gameplay is so one-dimensional
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>>175857729
>trapzerker is dead
im fucking livid
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>>175858029
AXIOS
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>>175857330
The new maps look amazing.
Temple is super comfy during the day
Forge should will be a cool kinda steampunk castle town
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>Damien literally saying to git gud against conq
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>>175858029
SEMPER UBI SUB UBI
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>Fixing bugs
Holy shit the game is playable now
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>>175857330
>That second Centurion
I like this one a lot, I think it have the perfect balance for the low fantasy
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welp, the next rep I should gun for is 5, fantastic

Better start afk farming right now
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>unlock attacks will be fixed

Thank you Jesus
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As long as the the best way to play this game is still to sit back and just block and use your safest move over and over what good does maps, gear and new classes do?
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Can I finally do my dailies agaisnt AI?

Also, how much time would it take to get one rep if I was continuosly playing Dominion VS AI?
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>>175858327
You've been able to do that for a while already.
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>>175858206
Season 2 adds a 25% xp boost to all gamemodes
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>>175858384
The game's bugged right now, so you can't claim rewards if you're doing AI matches, unless it's brawl
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Life of a Conq as experienced in the span of 8 reps:

Turtle like any other character, since you now have nothing that others don't.
>OMG Turtling conq cancer kys nerf when
Use shield bash 4-5 times throughout the match since it's the only offensive move that doesn't get you killed.
>OMG Shield spamming faggot no skill kys nerf when
Use full block to feint attacks since for some reason it's not enough to take away every other defensive tool from a defense oriented character, so you can't feint properly too.
>OMG bug abusing fucker reported.

Can't wait for buffs just 6 months down the line after a line of consecutive nerfs, when this piece of shit game will finally die.
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It's fine that they fix all the bullshit move and bugs but they added literally nothing back into the game.

I play three different classes and they combined have like 4 usable moves.
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>>175858465
Oh shit, that's awesome, never thought I'd see Ubi trying to lessen the grind in any way

Am I being baited
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this will be your view in elimination/dominion/brawl 2 weeks later
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I didnt even care for Cent before all the new info but Im on the fence. They are both cool as fuck.
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>>175857330
For anyone who wants to see the new videos of the Centurion and Naruto, just skip to the end of the video at the 1:39:45 mark
www twitch tv/videos/140062869
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>>175858591
Nope. They're even giving out two weeks of champion status when season two releases
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>>175858668
>yfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjjkHg5FOhk
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>>175858029
FUCK IT
ROMAN FACTION WHEN
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>>175858529
I know I've been saying that story a lot, but I had a berserker who complained I was spamming warden vortex when I only used the Shoulderbash twice, one of which was accidental.

Just don't give a fuck mate, do what you want and have fun because these people will never bitch about anything they can
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So are we getting actual balance changes or just bug fixes? Cuz thay's cool and all, but the latter is better.
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How about you stop playing ubishit games, and play AOC?

https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Uuppas/?campaign=JoinAshesofCreation
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was a female centurion really that outlandish..

yes im salty about it.
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>>175858668
Someone needs to edit that one comic with the knight against the weebs, and replace the character saying "beelev it" with the shinobi, and change the knight to the centurion
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>>175858817
>kickstarter
>open world

Never gonna be finished, never gonna be good.
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>>175858029
R O M A I N V I C T A
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>>175858864
Well, definitely not more outrageous than black vikings or samuraai, so why the fuck not?
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Both the new heroes look cool as fuck
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>>175858817
>kickstarter

nah
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>>175858529
I got the same experienced condensed into now 4 reps. To most people in this game, it really doesn't matter what you do. So sick of this whole "nerf him buff me" bullshit.
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>>175858956
Shinobi is literal weeb trash.
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Where were you when Ubi saved For Honor?
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>>175858956
>literal naruto character
>cool

Out.
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>>175858864
Would a male peacekeeper be a problem?
A female warlord?
I really wouldn't have any problems with every class being available in both sexes, save for maybe Shugoki and Lawman because I have a hard time imagine a HUUUUUUUUGE woman in full jousting plate and a female sumo.
The only people that really bitch about that usually are /r9k/ and realismfags
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>>175859070
Honestly with flicker being fixed pk and roach are trash to me now. Warlord is still great.
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>>175859070
Sitting at home waiting for meaningful combat improvements that never came.
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>>175859070
It's a good start, but dominion is the main draw for a larger audience and it's the least stable mode connection wise.
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>>175859173
Roach I can definitely understand, but how the fuck is PK trash now?
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>>175858864
Have you seen how HUGE the male centurion is?
She would be significantly smaller compared to male counterpart to where you couldn't take her seriously or almost as big as the male counterpart to where shes just a man.
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>>175859110

>implying I know anything about Naruto

Im going to play him and slow walk all tge time and theres nothing you can do to stop me
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>>175859173
Nah PK will still be able to perfectly hold her grounds, she still dish out way too much damages for her speed.
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>>175859137
I would hang with all of that even with Shug and LB because THHICC memes

It just seems silly to have gender locks on classes, it's not fun in MMOs why is it okay when it comes to things that have character creation.

what bugs me is that in the gender assigner, Warlord and Shug have it, almost as if they were teasing the idea of it but couldn't fix it.
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>Too poor for the season pass right now so I'll have to wait a week while the rest is having fun with the Centurion

Atleast ill have my yellow Kensei gear
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>>175859137
>Would a male peacekeeper be a problem?

Yes because then the class is purely trash instead of being a waifu.
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>stay with Samurai since beta because Asian
>shinobi is actual trash-tier animeshit

Why have they done this?

Time to join the Knights. I'll play weebnobi if his gameplay is fun
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>>175859310
The shame will kill you or you're so far gone that you may as well already be dead.
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>>175859296
I mean...

Amazon's are fucking hot. I like me some big womens
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>>175859278
TO ME. Flicker and gb feints was the only thing pks could do to fuck me up, Since i know how to block and parry lights on reaction.
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>>175859296
It'd be like M/F conq, the size difference is very noticeable.
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>>175858029
why not both?
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>>175859487
Check you out, go sweep a few tournaments then.
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>>175858816

It's hard to balance when you have bugs fucking with the balance numbers.
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>>175859558
Not enough Steel
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I finally get to live out my childhood fetish I picked up back in 2000.
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Is there any place that have posted attack speed in text format. I rather not watch yt videos. Also why do some places write attack speed in frames as 15f, but then some people write it in ms speed 500ms. Can anyone leink me to both.
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So am I supposed to believe that it's just coincidence that the Vikings won season 1 and they're the only faction that isn't getting a map or a character?

Who are the next two characters so we can know in advance which faction will win season 2?
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>>175859070
I can't gaze into alternate timelines, so idk.
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>>175859658

Severely underrated movie.
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>>175859137
Nobushi and Valkyrie would make no sense as males
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>>175859726
Going by that logic then knights will also lose season 2
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>>175859726

No, it was fate. The reason Vikings won was so the side that gets weeaboo trash couldn't win.
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>>175859296
But femraider tho
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changing gears stats is fine and all but the defence meta needs a fucking nerf. just make it so if you block an attack you need to input guardswitch again

bingbangbosh fixed
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Somebody post the season 3+ hero predictions please
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>>175857330
I think they should keep the bar while adding the numbers, because it's gonna be really tedious trying to manage all that gear just by looking at green and red arrows & numbers.

Adding a gear stat type that has its stats balanced between all three is gonna add to that too.
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>Ranged GB

If you counter gb it you better drag his ass to you and get a free hit.
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>>175860049
It's the highlander and the gladiator
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So the Centurion has a dash attack, deflect but has normal guard like a Vanguard?

Could this finally be the other character besides Kensei for me?
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>>175859296
I would be in favor of a tiny, lithe female Centurion that makes no goddamn sense because it makes for a better waifu.

You gotta pander to the waifufags if you want this game to survive.
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>>175858767
>Tfw there won't be a Fallen Empires faction with the Centurion, a Persian Immortal, a Greek Hoplite, and a Lu Bu/Guan Yu style Han warrior
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>>175860270
I really hope they add an immortal.
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>>175860393
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>>175860250
Wait wait, he have BOTH a regular guard AND a deflect?
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>>175860267
>I would be in favor of a tiny, lithe female Centurion
It's called peacekeeper anon
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>>175860562
Yeah just like Kensei
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>>175860562
Valkyrie already does too you know
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>>175860270
>Centurion - Vanguard
>Immortal - Assassin
>Lu Bu - Hybrid
>Hoplite - Heavy

By god it could actually work
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>>175860615
And I'm fine with other flavors of Peacekeeper being added to the game.

I mean, what is female Shinobi but a weeb Peacekeeper?
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>>175860720
>Hoplite has a Phalanx Stance where you can't guard break him
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Part one of new pastebin. Am I forgetting anything about the heroes? Let me know while I whip up some shit about the maps

https://pastebin.com/Ye1rj70z
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reminder that if you fags want some shinobi or centurion action i suggest to play shadow of rome and tenchu games
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Can anyone give me an overview of the live stream pls? thx bby grl
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> centurion is a single badass sent to stop a war
The story of this game is like a cheesey action movie, it's great.
The attitude in his executions are great, too.
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>>175860484
Elmascapo
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>>175858529
>>175859021
I'm a rep 18 conq and I hear all the abuse in the world about how conq is still broken. Conq is cheap. Turtling is lame. My blocking is op. Can't reach to bash. Ledging is lame and cheap. I shouldn't punish unsafe lights and zones with ring outs. I only how to do one attack even though I invariably utilise the whole kit in every match that doesn't end in a ring out.

The secret to having fun in FH is to mute all opponents, quit on warlords with any map that has ledges, and quit on wardens on any map that doesn't give you enough space to outmanoeuvre them. And most importantly, enjoy the salt, don't let it get to you
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>>175861081
Ryse was actually a pretty fun game, not great but it's got some cool moments and there's no really much out there in the way if Roman action games. Just a shame the story is a complete joke, but hey it's written by G*rmans so what do you expect.
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>>175860250
>>175860562

He also has a dashing guard break like kensei
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>>175859802

I wouldnt say Gladiator is under rated its like almost everyones favorite roman movie
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What was the move the centurion did were his sword flashed red and he ran them through? Also were was it confirmed he has a dash attack? I didn't see one in the trailer.
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>>175861539
It looked like a charged stab, yeah
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>>175861312
A good deal of the salt is probably from LBs. That match up is miserable as the Conq can't lose unless they fuck up.
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>>175861312
So much this.

Every time i get someone who gets pissy
>muh honor
>dont ledge
>fucking ganker
etc. I tell them that I'll play the game that i PAID for however way i want, and you play however you want.
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Who Shinobi hype?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xoTBZrzko
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Holy fuck twitch is such a pieace of shit website
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>>175860926
Actually I suppose I'll whip up shit about the maps when they fucking put the map trailers on youtube.
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You can tech out of a shoulder charge cancel into GB, yeah? One of my friends thinks its untechable and I'm pretty sure he's just salty because he's trash at the game and mad about the problems it has.
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>>175861908
Yeah, unless you try to dodge.
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>>175861775
I usually ask them to write a guide on the correct way to play since I'm apparently doing it wrong. And I spam Sorry! a lot too
>>175861661
Law is my secondary so it's especially tasty for me if that happens and they stay for a rematch
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JESUS CHRIST THEY WENT FULL NARUTO WITH THE SHINOBI
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WHere in the stream is the naruto walk?
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>>175862136
>Naruto run
>Teleports behind you
>Smoke cloud bullshit
>Kakashi eyepatch armor set
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>>175862189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XGfdgo8zM
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>>175862136
Yeah looks pretty disgusting, let's just hope the character is shit becuase every game is going to be swamed with them.
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>>175857631
youll get a female gladiator
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>>175862302
I'm an lb main and I honestly say, I'm scared about tryhards getting their hands in this character. It's already a provoke to deal with pk s and roaches but this, this is madness
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>>175862136
>>175862189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAeVfpy_Mo
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>>175862320
meh...i bet that will be trash

also
>trident and net

who the fuck really wants that stupid shit
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>>175862418
A problem*
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>>175862474
this, sounds stupid as fuck from aesthetic standpoint
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>>175862474
I do. I command the sea, bitches.

Also, do we know what the mythica and shit will look like for the DLC? Will they get the stuff for their faction, or unique stuff?
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>>175862474

Its trident and shield
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>>175862561
It's a trident and shield
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>>175862647
>>175862668
Why not just a long Trident, like fucking aquaman

that i can deal with, i never liked shields, im kinda upset my main is a shield user.
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>>175862773

You sound like twin swords knight
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>>175861325
Yeah it was a fun game. Shadow of Rome and Gladius are also fun and similarly themed.
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>>175862773
>aquaman
You mean the guy who talks to fish? Why'd you want someone like that.

4rd Fav Rebirth Title
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How much new gear are the existing characters getting?
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>>175861484

Yeah, but it's rated piss poor on like every outlet. I literally cry every time he's getting close to the other side.
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>>175862960
Nigga don't do this to me
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>mfw people say the community is cancer

If people didnt get wound up so easily over a video game itd be alot better
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>>175862773
Shield heroes are without a doubt the worst.
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>>175862957
4 new weapon sets & 2 new armor sets
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>>175862859
that looks like a shitty remake version of this
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>>175861661

As a LB main I can say it's at least the most boring matchup next to a mirror. However I'd say worst would be Berserker.
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>>175863089
Other way around, the "shittier" one is the oldest.
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>>175863023

...I'm doing it to me, too...
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>>175863190
Really? i saw the cleaner version i think over 5 years ago, how old is the shit one?
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>>175863292

Pretty fucking old

Like when /tg/ 1st came up
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>weekly "for honor is saved!" on plebbit
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>>175863292
kniggas were a whole fad, there's a million charts of them
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>Finally got all the stuff I want
Now I can kick back and safe some stell till Season 2-
>The New Samurai outfits got Butterflies
MOTHERFUCKER!
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>Johnson demand I play female shinobi
>Pride demand I play Centurion

Fuck
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*blocks your path*
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>>175860846
>single combat
>Phalanx Stance
U wot
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why is conqs heavy into shield bash called the shield bash mixup? wheres the mixup in it? its either commit, and have the enemy dodge, or dont do it and let the enemy react to anything you do
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>>175863657
BELIEVE IT
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>>175863882

SAUKYA THE BUTOOFUL
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>>175863882

If I say "Beleeb id" would people think it's Spurdo or Bieber?
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i really like his smoke screen into *teleports behind u* move, wish it was more like Tozen's, but oh well
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>>175863632
>Even considering naruto

You are unworthy.
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>>175863632
Don't be stupid anon
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man fuck playing lawbring anyone playing this bitch ass clas is a fool and a nigger
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>>175863657

LITERAL

FUCKING

MEME

CHARACTER

LITERALLY

NOT EVEN JOKING
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So how do you think the faggots ranged gb be balanced?
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I actually like how ubisoft kept the little back story videos for the new heroes

They dropped the operator videos for rainbow 6 siege at the 1st DLC
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>>175864108
>>175864083
You have to understand, what Johnson ask, Johnson get
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>>175864172

How so? He's massively improved but he's still not good enough to win tournaments.
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>>175863852

why is he called hard hitter when he has the lowest damage in the game, no stun attacks, and his one knock down attack has to come from his dash, which is among the slowest in the game?

why is he called strong defense when he cant feint, has the worst parry and gb rewards in the game(and wallsplat), no armor attacks and has overall weaker defense than warlord?

why is he called conqueror when he has no safe offense at all? he should be called occupier since the only standout thing he can do is occupy space at an above average level

he's trash and so are the balance team, thats why. but i fucking love his style so i main him anyway
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>Video is 1 &45 min long
nah, can anyone give me an overview of the stream? It's not up on the website yet.
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https://pastebin.com/4qcpMRZK

Alright this is all i'm doing for the pastbin. I can't be asked to transcribe the fucking half an hour powerpoint about gear changes. If someone else wants to take what I've written and keep adding to it, go ahead, but this is my contribution.

Whoever makes the next thread, slam this in the OP.
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>>175864371
read the pastebin in
>>175864403

thats the important shit
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So, we're getting cool shit and all in thi Season 2, but can I finally fucking get my rewards for playing on Ai matches with matchmaking off?
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>>175857706
Opinions on stats we should be going for?

Here's my thoughts:
Key: ++ = Big Boost, + = small boost, - = reduction
Remember that they said in the stream, you could now get gear with a small boost to every stat rather than a specialised piece of gear,

>Helmet
Defence +, Exhaustion Recovery ++, Debuff Resistance -
>Chest
Defence +, Stamina Reduction +, Stamina Regen +
>Arms
Defence ++, Revenge Defence +, Revenge Duration -
>Blade
Attack ++, Penetration +, Block Damage -
>Hilt
Attack ++, Execution Health -, Revive Speed +
>Guard
Attack +, Revenge Gain +, Revenge Attack +
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>>175864346
>has the worst parry

i usually get a gb or a side heavy off a parry.

is the heavy not guranteed?
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>>175859680
Answer Me!

>>175864172
He's good though. Not Top 3 tier, but still better than alot of other heroes.
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>>175864346

>which is among the slowest in the game?

This is bait

>why is he called strong defense when he cant feint

Because feinting has almost nothing to do with defense.

>overall weaker defense than warlord?

He's actually the best defense in the game, feats included. He just has the worst output.
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I fucking love how salty people are already getting over the Shinobi being an anime cliche. Makes me want to play him.
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>>175864603
its slower than shugokis charge, and slower than warlords, and lawbringers. its either tied with raiders or faster than his.
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>>175864484
Swap defence and exhaustion recovery on the helmet

I think they said Penetration only effects when you're fighting higher-geared people than you, so you can probably drop that at high levels
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>>175864729
>Salty

No ones salty my guy. Erryones laffin
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>>175864314
>Not expanding the empire to get even more bitches

If you do your duty, you will be rewarded far more than just one female weeb
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>>175864603
>This is bait

there are two characters that run slower than conq

>>175864556

conq's heavy is the weakest in the game and thats all you can get off it
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>>175864729
ill for sure be using him, and centurion too.
i dont have an assassin yet, and im assuming centurion will be a vanguard, and i dropped warden, and havent commited to leveling kensei up yet.
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>>175864829

Lawbringer's isn't even a charge so much as an attack that is completely nullified by guarding from a single direction upon their approach. Shug's doesn't knock down anymore, and Warlord is full of cunty shit that everyone agrees is over-bloated.
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>>175864948
Cent is a hybrid
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>>175864916
alright.

how do i not get my side heavy off gb blocked?
im guessing im mashing too hard so its causing me to charge his heavy to level one.
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>>175864948
They both look really fun, i'll probably play both a bit until i know them both then take one to rep 5.
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>>175864729

even if ninja is the worst character in the game i will be instant quitting every match vs him

i like this game too much to indulge that autistic weeaboo shit
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>>175865071
Don't mash, just click once. The game can read mashing as a "holding it down but my mouse / button is a bit dodgy"
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>really loving raider but I'm feeling pretty hype for centurion
anyone know what his playstyle is supposed to be like?
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>>175865136
Guess you won't be playing For Honor anymore then
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>>175864916

Run and charge speed are different he uses it point blank and you're going down. It's near impossible to react to properly and has a very tight window you dodge from.
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>>175864729
>Salty

More a mix of disgust and amusement.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHCXKZRKCzU

I like how the Shinobis gameplay is akin to a grind house ninja movie
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I'm the most beautiful apple in the world
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>>175864567
www.google.com

500ms = 15f@3ofps = 30f@60fps
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>>175865198
Play style will be putting you on a cross, savage.
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>>175865198
>Play Law, Raider, Kensei
Pretty hyped for him too but as for play style I can't really say much albiet from the animations, it looks very punishing/brutal
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>>175865198
punching assassin/heavy hybrid.
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>>175865136

>Not personally and literally killing off the trash you hate with the character you love

I bet you never act on injustices you are confronted with in this world. You just cover your ears and go "lalalalalalala."
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>>175857706
So I think this picture pretty much confirms that everyone's inventories are going to be wiped out. I bet we'll keep the Reps, but it looks like some gear may change whether it's rated as gray, blue, or purple.
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>>175865470
sounds fun
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>>175865470
Vanguard/Assassins actually not Heavy
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>>175865470
assassin/vanguard hybrid*
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>Centurion gameplay

Who /soulcalibur/ here
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> hype for new content
> the only one out of my group of friends that plays the game is salty about the game and doesn't like It
I wish the game would get fixed sooner so it wouldn't put off newbies like it does.
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>>175865481

>implying it wont be full on naruto autists running around the map at the speed of light and not even attacking every time

i dont like autistics so i avoid them, in games as in real life

>>175865213
i play duel almost exclusively so it shouldnt be too hard to avoid them
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>>175865801

I understand that some games are fun with friends but for honor does not seem like that

Or its becasue im used to playing alone
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>>175865579
Better get them scavenger crates back or Ubi's gonna have a PR nightmare.
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>>175865767

>has a shield
>is a skinny unarmed greek bitch with good frame data

i think youre a retard my friend
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>>175866103
Brawls can be fun with a buddy. Elims might be fun with 3-4 people. Dom's okay, people would probably just bail if a coordinated group jumped in and stomped everybody. Maybe if ranked happens people will support groups more.
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>>175864865
Actually I think penetration is going to become a mandatory top- or second-stat because of course you're going to want to do all the damage you can against strong chars. I think Block Damage is going to be the only really ignored stat in this cycle, because only prob PK, Zerk, and Valk will make good use of it.
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>>175866182

Her clone was similar to the centurion
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>>175864482
Anyone?
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>>175864482
they said they are working on it as top prio
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>>175865801
Connection in dominion needs to be sorted to attract the casual players, a bunch of my casual mates were looking forward to the game but the disconnects drove them away.
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>>175866562
Yeah. I dunno if it was bad luck or timing, but I noticed connection/matchmaking time might have been worse when playing with other people. Can anyone else attest to that?
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LEAKED SHINOBI MYTHIC I REPEAT LEAKED SHINOBI MYTHIC

THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>175866740
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>>175866740

wow sweet joke. didnt see that coming. upboated
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>>175859362
>being this poor
damn
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>tuned lawbringer one of the most fun class into shove bringer the noob class

TURN HIM BACK
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>>175865136
>everyone playing him is Autistic

>So every game I see him, I'll autistically quit

k.
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>Play dominion with a friend that just got the game
>Max gear score gank squads and dcs
>Try brawl
>Ledgelord and flickering roach spamming wow and emotes when they push his shit in

He hasn't touched the game since, no idea what the devs can do to make the game better to get into but the game has no future as it stands.
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>>175866295

If you had been paying attention the top gear will come with it and the second stat. There will only be 2 stats on the armor and there are no options besides the level of the two stats, So...
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>>175866051

>i dont like autistics so i avoid them, in games as in real life

So I guess you depersonalize and don't masturbate a lot.
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>>175867019
thats what is going to kill this game: its a tiny community where most of the players are tryhard metafags. no new players are going to suffer this shit
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All this annoying LOL NARUTO WEEB shit is played out and stupid.

Get over yourselves
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>>175866182
How the fuck does she have good frame data when her tits are a hit box?
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>>175861303
poronga
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>>175867231
>pc
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>>175866972
I miss when maining LB was regarded as a good thing, instead of a burning brand of shame. Fucking shitters have to ruin everything.
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>>175867327
>playing this game on a console where its 30fps locked
>>175867437
he had to be buffed somehow, the shove confirm into light might have been a bit much though
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>>175866972
This desu. As LB main I really hated the buff. Sure there were some good things but overall they weren't a CA/Disrupter buffs.

Light Riposte doing damage and stun is good, but should also initiate the chain.
Increase Damage on Blind Justice to 50.
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>>175867437
Now every knight is considered a cancer class, can't play a single one in peace.
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>>175866972
> get one rep in Lawman before the buff
> haven't touched him since
He was really fun. I'm just waiting until they fix him.
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>>175867238

t. weeb
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>>175867082
wat? No, I'm pretty sure you're wrong, Attack/Def won't be a default unchangeable stat, and I think this pic proves it.
>>175860095
It looks like his Attack is +, Rev Attack is ++, and Rev Gain is -. So no, we'll keep our variations and won't be down to only 2 stats on every single item.
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>>175867490

Except it's not confirmed into a light. Only shitters actively believe it's even a 50/50. Just stop.
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>>175867238
Shinobi is a literal naruto character, it's edgy weeb 14 year old fan fic level of cringe worthy.
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>>175867746
>eat the light or risk getting caught in an untechable GB by trying to dodge it
it's one of the less egregious 50/50's in the game, but its there.

t. rep 12 LB
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>>175866972
Instead of doing his crazy shove combos, they should've done stuff like put super-armor on his Heavys seeing as he's got this giant poleaxe he's swinging around and can't really stop just because he got light-attacked.
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>>175867317
KEK, wasn't expecting a reply.
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>>175867730

Read the pic again. Each piece now has 2 (two) stats instead of 3 (three). Options were removed for the sake of balancing.
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im fine if they remove shove>light IF they remove the guardswitch delay
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>>175867872

Except it's not. I'm a rep 12 LB and a rep 17 PK and good assassins can and WILL turn your shove into a 80/20 in their favor.
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>>175867937
Yea, and you're fucking wrong. Idk why you're assuming that.
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>>175868042
sure, assassins can deflect it. other classes have no such countermeasure
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>>175868042
It really annoys me that Roach's Deflect does 50 Damage, but our Ad-Mortem only does 45. Same as a filthy Raider.

>>175868143
Raider,Kensei,Nobushi,Valk can side dodge attack it no?
I don't know if conq can bash it though.
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>>175868259
>Raider,Kensei,Nobushi,Valk can side dodge attack it no?
the thing is, if the LB opts to GB instead of light attacking after the shove, you'll get caught in an untechable GB. (assuming you tried to dodge)
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is something up with twitch?

I cant watch the latest VOD
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>>175868071

It's literally in the picture. Those are the two stats on each piece of gear.

>>175868143

They can deflect it, dodge it completely and dash attack it, dodge and GB it, or do the exact same thing if you try to heavy out of shove, but that generally will catch anyone that tries to GB the shove. If you choose to GB, their dash attack will nullify it. Therefore Assassins can completely use it against you UNLESS you do nothing after the shove in which case got can trick them into dash attacking and parry it. However, if they choose not to do that you're back to neutral. Assassins and ANYONE with a dash attack of any sort are problematic to LBs and that's why he's still not able to win tournaments.
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>>175868351
Yeah but all those named classes have sidestep light.

>>175868542
>can trick them into dash attacking and parry it.
This is a risk of doing it though.
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>>175868351

This isn't true, though. With the way the mechanic works right now the guard break doesn't come out fast enough to grab the opponent before they become immune to it.
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>>175867915
By that logic every attack conq does should have superarmor since his weapon literally cannot stop
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>>175868398
that specific vod is working fine for me
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Anyone got a link to the new hero intro videos?
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>>175868791
Yes. He should get HA like Zerk's after second light.
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>baiting shovebringers into shove>light
>dodge it as law and bring the pain
THIS IS MY REALM
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>>175868914
They're on youtube, takes like five seconds to find
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>>175868958
>THIS IS MY REALM
easy does it there mlord
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>>175869208
> tfw browsing fhg and twg at the same time
It's comfy
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>>175868958

I've still run into issues where people can block my lights.

In addition my Revenge shove is knocking people down only like 10% of the time. How did they fuck this class up so bad?
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>>175859137
>full jousting plate
When will this meme end?
He doesn't even have armor on his thighs ffs.
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>>175867872
how is it not a 50/50?

how do you both defend against a light and a gb?
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>>175869332
>I've still run into issues where people can block my lights.

it's a bug, attack from a different direction when you shove
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>>175867492
Light riposte DOES initiate the chain.
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>>175869441
>>175868542
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>>175869326
I haven't done a campaign in a while, mainly waiting for TWW2. muh skaven
>>175869441
in that post I was saying that it is, but I guess some characters have tech that can shut it down.
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>>175869615
oh so something not all characters have. knew it was just some guy exaggerating to sound good at the game.
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Holy fuck, I just ran into a guy that plays against ai only. He was doing duels daily, and went pvp since they dont work with bots. 25rep Bers, said hes going to max other assasin classes while he waits for ubi to fix turtle meta.
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>>175869758

It's not an exaggeration. That's most of the characters in the game. Raider, Kensei, Berserker, PK, Lawbringer, Valk, Other LBs, Conquerors sometimes it's buggy, Orochi. That's almost the entire cast that can actually use Shove against you the majority of the time.
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>>175864729
It's actually cringe, faglord
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I like making reaction images out of the team
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>>175869208
THE WOLFS ARE ATTACKS AND WE NEED MORE WOOD


THE PEOPLE LOVE YOU SIRE
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>>175869738
>excited for rats
>not for dinosaurs riding dinosaurs

Shiggy
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>>175869986
Jesus. I met a rep 11 or something shug that had played vs AI for all those levels.
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>>175870141
Well done.
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>I'm hyped for both Centurion and Shinobi
>Will have to save up another 15k
pls
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>>175870141
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>>175870253
> 25k steel and started saving from a couple weeks ago from 10k
Step up your game senpai
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>>175870253
you have 2 weeks still. this is easy
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>>175870229
What did he say? Why was he doing that?
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>>175870319
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>>175870343

I was completely broke last saturday and now already have 13k, it's just so tempting to buy some bullshit. I wasn't broke for no reason, I keep buying pointless packs.
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>>175870471
Can't remember now, maybe it had something to do with internet connection. All I remember was that he mostly played 4v4s. I don't understand why people would do that for so long.
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>>175870220
>not hyped for reddit rats
>warlock technology
>rat ogres
is this man-thing serious?
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>>175870492
and my favorite OC
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>>175870582
Well my guy said he was doing it to destress. That he just turns on the music and does the thing
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why cant they make it so you dont have to choose a dedicated emblem but can pick whatever emblem of the 4 (four) you get to make and slap that on your loadout instead of having to change it every game potentially
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>>175870343
>only 25k steel

I've been saying since the game was released. I've spent 21k on new executions and stil have 120k left over.
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>>175870729
Makes sense. I've recently started playing with music on, and the salt just rolls off me. This game's great to just play and turn your brain off for a while.

>>175870506
Only things I've bought is a few of the cheap ornaments for the heroes I play and some of the cheaper buyable outfits. I want those mythics, but I'll wait until I have somebody to rep 3 (or five, now)
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>>175865136
I think it's clear who is autistic here. Getting this fucking salty over a new weeb character.

I swear I had zero interest in the Naruto, but knowing how assblasted some people are going to be I'm going to play it and just anime run in circles around them.
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>>175870141
>whenyouaddanother50/50.jpg
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>>175871271
> emoting after every death, and then anime walking away
> sprinting everywhere
> edgiest possible asthetics
How else can we make him cancer
>>
Law's shove follow up can be reacted to. stop acting like it's a 50/50 guess
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>>175867920
:^)
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>>175871515
>dodge when you see the indicator
>it's a heavy instead
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>>175871515

It's a 50/50 on complete morons which is most of the player base, but against good players you're better off never using it ever.
>>
fun fact: ninja has an autistic tantrum emote
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>>175871678

>It doesn't matter because they dodged in the other direction and now I'm eating a GB or dash attack
>I was better off not using it
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>>175871503
>pick most obnoxious feats even if they aren't good
>naruto theme emblems on everything
>gank only
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>>175871831
Source?
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>>175867832
you can fit a few more buzzwords in there if you try a little harder, mate
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>>175871973
can't tell you, but you can screen cap that
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>>175871515

>I Shove
>It doesn't connect and I'm punished heavily
>It connects and I either get very lucky or I'm punished heavily
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>>175871895
wow i guess you shoulda grabbed.
>>175871515
nope. you only have a few frames to even dodge
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>>175872134
>It connects and I either get very lucky or I'm punished heavily
Um what? Only deflects can actually punish your light, but then you feint heavy and parry their attack
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>>175872402

Clearly you're the 95% of the players that is terrible.
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>>175872402
It's a 500ms attack. You can react
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>throw distance stat removed
Looks like i'm going bowling with Law the next few weeks, damn.
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>>175857330
So the Centurion got his Squamata and Segmentata after all.
And the tier for Ninja is from Mortal Kombat
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Why does it feel so good to deflect people? Is it because it looks so fluid it just feels more "styled on" than a parry.
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>>175872459

>Only deflects can actually punish your light

Sorry my friend, but you have no clue whet you're talking about.
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>>175872693
Enlighten me then - how can you get punished for a shove off block?
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>>175872808
for a connected shove*
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>>175872808
>>175868542
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>>175872808
GB after dodging the light is guaranteed.

I'm not even the guy you're arguing with, I'm just not a dummy.
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>>175872808
Dodging the light gives you a free gb
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well that's a first
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Why the fuck does it say "Low Activity" across all game modes? PC-Steam.
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>>175872980
>>175872986
>>175872994
Im pretty much confident that I teched that gb every time. It was untechable only when it was a raw shove
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>>175872459

Feinting a heavy takes too long on LB and you can't get back into neutral fast enough to parry their attempt.
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>>175873259
Because the PC version died a month after launch
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>>175873276
are you playing raider
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>>175873259
Because everyone just got booted
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>>175873079

just happened me too

i was losing the fight so i hope it happened to everyone in the game. dont want anyone thinking i salt quit a fair fight
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>>175873276

Most people won't attempt the GB. It's irrelevant. They can punish it with their attack of choice because LB doesn't have a light> light combo.
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>>175871984
You'll fit that noose around your neck if you try a bit harder, weeb.
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>>175873530

They don't make nooses big enough.
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>>175873621
Love pillow over the face it is then.
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>Raider vs Warlord Duel.
>Win with 3-0
>Dude get salty and goes, "Lmao Raider is easy mode, dude has 90 damage punish."
>Quits immediately.
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So how is that teleport behind you move goong to work? I feel like it'll just be fancy deflect animation.
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Sweet, called it. Shinobi charges his weapon like a flail for extended range.

Can't wait to see everyone doing the anime run.

Also that slide he does, you think thats a knockdown?
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>>175874468
It's a deflect
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I dont think shinobi will have the anime run

If you look at the trailer, twice hes spotted sprinting normally, right at the start and before the anime run

maybe its some kind of feat?
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>>175874686
>mfw ninja is the assassin equivlent of warlord
God pls no
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>fighting a new player
>beating him 2-0 duel
>try and mess up on purpose two matches so he can learn
>muscle memory keeps kicking in
>accidentally win by a large margin

I just wanted to make someone feel like they're getting better.
>>
Holy shit I just watched the trailers and you guys weren't kidding, Shinobi is literally naruto. I'm 100% expecting at least half of Roaches to switch to him instantly
>>
Both new characters are some of the most meme characters Ive seen in games.

Shinobi is the most stereotypical anime ninja possible.

Centurion is Gladiator movie: the character.

and Im ok with this
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>>175875716
>fighting new player
>throw out random heavies in neutral so he can learn to parry
>he always just eats them and dies
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>>175875867
I'm going to play Shinobi and everytime I get salt I'm just going to reply
>*teleports behind you*
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>>175875960
*nothing personal, kid*
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>>175875960
That's just going to make people laugh at you.
>>
is it weird to specifically not do orders to level up slower and be a better player at lower rep?

am I autism?
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>>175876646
not autistic, just caring what people think of you a lot at the expense of steel
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>>175876646
dont worry about rep

t.rep 46
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> those players who attack you when you try to emote before a fight
I get it, you think you're cool, but I was just trying to be friendly
>>
What can Orochi do besides flicker?
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>>175877119
Only people that ever respond to my emotes are other LB's, sometimes we even go emote spam other players
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>>175869326
My nigga.
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Fucking REKT
This is probably the point where I should log off and play something else to end the day well.

>>175877132

Getting parried.
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>>175875856

The designers LITERALLY mentioned Naruto as inspiration.
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>>175876646
What's your total rep, anon?
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>>175877349

14
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>>175877254
>D4_Grizzly
Met that guy quite often already. He used to be less shit though.
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>>175877434
You shouldn't worry about that, anon, I'm rep8 and I'm consistently garbage at the game and nothing happened as of yet, just get yourself some Steel with the Orders
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Can they just delete, "Join in Progress" from game please.
Literally had worst Dom experience where entire blue team was just bunch of casuals with no rep and no gear. While Red had 3 108 gear fags and 1 AI. Few minutes in, and That AI transformed into 108 Valk and game starting at 140-700 score.
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>>175877675
while theyre at it, dont fucking put 2 bots on my team just because the other team is a 4 man premade and you dont want them to wait an extra 20 seconds to find two more people.
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>>175877132

his deflects are so cool, I like to defelct lawbringers running charge
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>Valk GBs me after blocking a light then unblockable spams me against a wall
>I escape only to be killed by her leaping ten feet

???????
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>>175872501
I know I am but what are you?
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If you counter gb shinobis ranged gb I hope you yank him to you and get a free hit.
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>>175879560
Valks very hard to fight when you don't know the match up, and even then she has some strange stuff going on such as her second light confirming the sweep if you try to change guard after the first hit.
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I really hate Lawbringers now.
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>>175879720
>Shinobi tries to Roadhog you off a cliff
>Counter it and Roadhog him instead

NICE
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>>175879720

well then he's never going to use it then is he?
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>>175879980
Assuming it doesn't need a cast time or anything, he can use it to grab Nobushi's and other long range characters after heavy parries.
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>>175879980
If there's nothing like that then what stops him just walking back waiting to ranged gb you when you try to dash in on him?
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>>175879863
We love you too sweetie
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>>175880286

The next time one of you fuckers turtles in Elimination, I'm just going to run to gank one of your fuckbuddies.
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>>175880380
t. Orochi that couldn't land a side light
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>play against a PK that parries every light and feints

So I'm just supposed to commit suicide, right?
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>>175880380
Check your local ordinances first, wouldn't want to do anything illegal.
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>>175880216

that wouls be cool

>>175880258

how do I know Im not a game dev
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How to Orochi
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>25% boost for all eternity
>hit 30 2 +weeks ago
t-thanks

Not sure who else i should get to 5 before i go full Cent.
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>>175880928
> a rep in a character you haven't bought
What is this
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>>175867231
i got a code from a friend and yeah its suffering to play. Im pretty much playing just cause i like the aesthetic of the knight classes
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>>175881060
there was an achievement for getting a rep in each faction.
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>>175880928
>>25% boost for all eternity
when's that happening? season 2?
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>>175878956
I quit if a game starts me off with two bots and the enemy team has 4 players. I'm not going to stay to get fucking destroyed and have the enemy team taunt because matchmaking fucked me
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>>175881312
the game itself is a lot of fun, but the current meta isn't. hopefully we get some balance changes along with season 2 that help break the meta.
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>>175846314
No, that is very wrong. There is absolutely nothing indicating that Cool Captian is our playable Warden in the campaign.
Do you think that our Warden began with the Blackstones, became a Warden, left the Blackstones, then came back? Do you think Apollyon would allow turncoats to even rejoin the ranks?
There's also a part in the Knights' Story where the Warden says he met Apollyon for the first time then, and that's, like, the third mission in.
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>dev team full of beta cucks
>Roman looks like jason stathams brother
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>>175881537
when im not getting facerolled with imbalanced teams its fun. Maybe itll get better
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>Lawbringer does nothing but turtle, then shove + gb + heavy + shove + gb + heavy
>Warden does nothing but light bash light bash light bash
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>>175881819
>playing team modes

There's your problem. Play duel or brawl.
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>>175881889
Kensei is the least cancerous class I've played. I've been ranking up LB lately but the shove spam is just getting dull
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>>175882103
Kensei that play normally are cool, but those cunts that abuse unlock """""tech""""" make the character cancer to play against.
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something up with servers? everyone has red NAT or i get d/c, my internet is fine so it's not me.
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>>175879863

Why? They're still free kills.
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>>175882664

How
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>>175881889

If you're not getting your shoves punished 80% of the time, then you're fighting garbage players.
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>>175865353
What a pretty apple
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>>175882804
>>175870082
>>175868542
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shinobi looks autistic as fuck. I'll enjoy stomping the shitty weebs who'll flock to the character.
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>>175882804
>>175868632
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there goes my hopes and dreams
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>>175882971
He looks like he may be high tier as shit too though, considering how fast his swinging chain attack comes at you, considering the massive range that thing has.
Also his teleport behind you tier dodges may he a bitch to deal with
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oros top light feels way faster than 500ms

>>175882971

I;ll enjoy slowwalking when I win
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>>175870973
This. I love having my AdMech symbol on lawbringer but it doesn't really look that great on nobushi
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>>175883294
Yeah, it looks exactly like the type of shit we already get. I was hoping for a new material or some shit to have weapons made from. Or at the very least creative designs for them instead of "Here's another normal ax piece"
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>>175883294
wow look how different that armor looks
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>>175883294
> G A U D Y
> A
> U
> D
> Y
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>>175883294

Don't feel bad. Still 2 other weapons and a set of armor you haven't seen yet. I'm sure they won't disappoint.
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>>175883675
i imagine the set of armour is just going to be one built upon that though, like just "muh more spikes" type shit, I want my holden arms damn it.
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>>175883675
>>175883775
Though perhaps i could be wrong, and one of the new armour sets for every class could be a "unique" set, since we got unique weapons with season 1, so i'll stay optimistic.
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Does vs AI with matchmaking off work yet?
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>>175884048
No.
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>>175884048
jesus christo read the thread sometime
are we gonna need to put it in the OP or something
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>8 kill strek in skirmish

how in the fuck
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>>175882948
>>175883091
Wow so you have to pick certain characters to beat him. That's fucking broken bullshit, nerf when?
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>>175884168
>>175884195
>mfw it works on PS4

GET FUCKED PC KEKS
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>>175883294
why did they show law's new gear and not warden

this upsets me
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>>175884458
*throws a 500ms light*
heh, nuffin personnel console pleb...
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Memebringer has garbage customisation.
Post shugoki,kensei and nobushi
They have the most diverse gear.
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>>175884593
Doesn't matter when I can do my orders against bots that just throw heavies all day HA ;^)
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I can't even remember the last time I blocked orochi top light, i have 200 hours
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>>175884647
>diverse
>Wood shit with some spikes
>Would you like a coat with that?

All jap shit ever
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>>175884868
git gud
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>if you move your guard to block a lawbringer ovehead as soon as you see it with reflex guard it will run out before the attack hits

SIMBLY EBIN.
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>>175885008
>Being able to cancel the shoulder to crushing counter strike A FUCKING ROACHES TOP LIGHT
And there are people who will claim Warden isn't OP as shit
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Anyone got a link to a summary of the stream? Even if it's on reddit

I didn't read the whole thread because it takes too long, but from what I saw is

>centurion ninja reveal
>new weapons and armor
>new maps
>25% exp boost
>flickering fixed
>unlock fixed

Or even just telling me what I missed would be nice, no need for a link
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>>175885008
wrong webm, that was his combo light - 600ms
>>175885137
git gud
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>>175885295
You're playing a crutch character. There's absolutely no reason you should be able to feint the shoulder into a parry
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>>175885174
flicker not fixed
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>>175885137
Roach's fault. He chained it against a dodge, which obviously reduces the speed of the attack. QQ
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>>175885008

you were already blocking top in the webm, I have reflex gaurd, didnt do anything
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>>175885137
>Predicted a light and canceled the shoulder early to counter it

Wow it's almost like Warden forces you to make a read on your opponent to counter the shoulder
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>>175885378
top kek yeah that makes sense, make the ability absolutely useless against assassins because they can dash attack it every time. real critical thinker here
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>>175885378
keep thinking that, cuck
>>175885476
you know you have to refresh it?
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>>175885520
>Predicted that Roach would stop the shoulder with his only attack fast enough to stop it with
Wow what a great mind game read on the Warden's part! Totally isn't obvious or anything that they will try and stop you with the only attack capable of stopping you!
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>>175885579

doesnt matter you still have to reaction block that or the zone
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>>175885669
he also has zone
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That +25% XP boost sounds large

This might make the elite status much better
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>>175885565
And it makes more sense to make the ability unpunishable because you can cancel it in time to parry the enemies counter?
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what the fuck is wrong the servers!? I get kicked from literally every match and every one has red nat before the match starts and then they fluctuate.

It's definitely not me, pic related.
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>>175885669
>Roach just mindlessly throwing out a light to try to cancel it
>When he knows that the Warden can cancel it and parry him
>Instead of not taking the bait he took it on the chin

Wow it's almost like the Roach didn't even try to make a prediction and was just smashing top light the whole webm
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>The devs are revamping gear already

Jesus that was quick
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>>175885792
>implying it is not done on prediction
>unpunishable
git gud
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>>175885743
>Bro just use half your stamina to stop Warden from spamming an attack that costs 1/8th of his stamina
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>>175885746
Champion status?
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Does a high rep Valk look cool? I don't think I ever saw one
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>>175886075
Eh.
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>Sprint speed is getting reduced
>my kensei is already slow with it

AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>175885921
>He actually thinks that insane tracking is remotely balanced
>>175885861
>Just don't attack because it can get parried
There's absolutely no reason the shoulder should be able to be canceled in time to counter the enemies counter.
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>>175885792
You can punish it though???????? Do you even play this game or are you a hired shill?
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>>175886102
Kensei is old. His days running track are a distant memory, and his knees aren't what they used to be.
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>>175885008
>>175885921
>its a rerun of the "this warden thinks he's hot shit" episode
delectable
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>>175886102
>Now I'll never be able to catch Roaches who run away as the Law
Shit's gonna make me so mad
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>>175886134
>insane tracking
what?
do you even know how shoulder works?
i guess not
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>>175886143
Shill from the Shitter Defense Force. They never leave and then when people ignore them they go "Haha b-btfo!"
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>>175886143
why are you trying to defend warden.

hes one of the strongest characters because of a bloated ability with absolutely no weaknesses
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>>175886371
>absolutely no weaknesses
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>>175886281
Did you even watch your own webm?
>You start charging the shoulder
>Raider side steps
>You keep charging and magically rotate in place almost a solid 180 degrees and hit him
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Mouse/KB or controller?
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>>175886134
>Just don't attack because it can get parried
But that's not what I said at all.

Warden physically cannot cancel the shoulder and parry a light on reaction. He has to cancel it early to be recover soon enough to parry it.

It's up to you to predict when he does this. When Warden enters his shoulder, you are both trying to read each other. If he thinks you're going to attack, he's going to cancel. That means it's safe for you to either dodge or just do nothing.

Are you actually stupid enough to not understand that the point of shoulder bash is to force a confrontation? Shoulder forces the defender to take an action based on what he thinks the attacker is going to do. If you think he's going to cancel it, don't fucking attack into him you monkey.

Also
>Shoulder now cannot be canceled
>Attack becomes unusable because everyone can just light you out of it
They could make the uninterruptible stance come even sooner so that it triggers before the light, and that would be even worse for the defender because then you're guaranteed the fucking top heavy instead of just a normal parry you'd get punished with off a side attack.
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>>175886509
m+kb
faster at everything + better key positions
>>175886493
like i said, you have no idea how shoulder works
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>>175886143
>>175886337
>>175886476
>Absolutely everyone defending Warden doesn't actually say how to beat the shoulder other than "Roll away keep your distance"
I sure wonder who could be behind these posts
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>>175886371
>no weakness
wew. I wonder what these shitters think of warlord?
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>>175886626
>doesn't actually say how to beat the shoulder other than "Roll away keep your distance"

But I fucking am you shitter. You beat him by correctly predicting what he's gonna do.

Shoulder bash is a mixup. Predict what he mixes it up to and punish him for it. It is that fucking easy.
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>>175886641

>a different character is op
>this invalidates your complaints

Really made me think
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>>175886616
I know how the shoulder works, I'm saying it's ridiculous that you can just continue charging it and perfectly track someone dodging, while at the same time having hyper armor that late in the charge so you cannot be interrupted
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>>175886626
it has been said in almost every single thread
in short guess right or roll away if you don't want to deal with it
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So, what are all the stats being removed? Removing sprint speed is gay as fuck, how do we catch assassins now
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>>175886760

>correctly predicting 1/3 options and the Warden can spam
>no other class gets a 33/33/33
>this is fair
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>>175886760
Except you cannot punish him for guessing correctly.
>Guess Warden is going to shoulder
>Dodge and light/GB
He can tech GBs and can block everything except dash attacks, which not every character has
>Guess he's going to cancel
>Don't attack
Gee that sure punished him setting us back to neutral!
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>>175886783
>A bash with variable timing punishes someone for dodging early

:thinking:
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>>175886760
or just roll, u know since their is no real 50/50s in this game if you have stamina
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>>175886783
you can gb someone out of it
i know raider matchup, and cancel into gb does not work vs them, so i keep charging, and tracking only stops once you release it, devs even removed the glancing hit, so any time warden misses it you get a free gb
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>>175886626
I wonder what they're all going to say once the devs make it so that someone can be guard broken through a roll
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>>175886904
wrong, every single missed shouder is a free gb
every light or even heavy counters gb cancel
standing still or gb beats cancel into parry
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>>175886626
So I read those posts and not a single one mentioned rolling. You wouldn't happen to be a delusional, ass-blasted shitter would you?
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>>175887005
>Devs have hardly touched Warden in his """nerf"""
>The only 100% safe move against his shoulder is to roll away
>Devs nerfing rolls
Man I wonder what character the devs main?
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>>175886904
>Guess he's going to shoulder
>Roll back in time with him and GB as you recover
>Or just time your dodge well so you can GB him anyway
>Or light him out of it
>Or dash attack
>Or dash GB if you're Raider

>Guess he's going to cancel
>GB him when he's in the recovery frames
>Or feint and try to bait and parry the top light
>Or just understand that it was a feint and has the same rules a feint does in that its a pretty fucking safe option

>>175886884
You don't even have to correctly predict 1/3 options. You just need to not predict what he thinks you will. It is 66% in your favor that if you just do random shit, he won't get anything off.
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>>175885851
WTF IT HAPPENED AGAIN FUCK YOU UBI REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
9 FUCKING MATCHES
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I'VE MADE ZERO PROGRESS ON THESE FUCKING ELIM ORDERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MY PING IS 12, ITS NOT ME FUCK THESE SERVERS
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>elim
>roach
>unlock all your feats as a soon as possible
>run grab all the boosts
>find the enemy gank, kill them all in 2 hits

I just did half a shield and half hp of a rep 9 warden in 1 heavy with raoches last 2 feats, that shit is ridiculous
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>>175887219
>Everyone whines for Ubi to nerf defense
>Ubi nerfs defense, which is an indirect buff to characters that have good offenses
>wow wtf ubi

Can't please everyone.
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>>175887347
>no feat rework planned
that's why i am staying away from 4v4 modes

feats and gear were a mistake
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>>175887421
Everyone whined to nerf turtling, not rolling away which people only ever use when trying to run, or dodging Wardens shoulder
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on Raider?
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>>175887507
Parry lights shit out damage.

Combo Zone and sometimes feint.
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>>175885921
>hold charge
>do a 180 and still hit him

YEA BRO ITS SO BALANCED JUST DODGE
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>>175887553

>Parry lights

Anon, I...
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>tfw want to get better
>just keep getting shit players in every mode

fucks sake
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>>175887636
I play on PS4 and do it. There is no excuse not to learn how to parry lights, anon.
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>>175887590
He obviously dodged at the wrong time you grognard
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>>175887590
>Someone's winding up a BIG ATTACK
>Smash dodge the moment you see it
>Don't dodge anything because it's still getting WOUND UP
>Eat the attack because you dodged early

This is elementary shit
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>>175887636
>>175887697
My problem with parrying lights is that so many attacks have the same light/heavy animations so it's hard as shit in the moment to tell if I just parried a heavy or light, so I don't know if I can fully capitalize on my parry or not
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>>175887725
>dodge at the wrong time
>so its fine if the shoulder bash does a 90 degree turn and homes in on the target
you will never convince me this is alright
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>3 friendly trapzerkers in dominion
>enemy's home point is a literal minefield
fun
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>>175887812

this tbqh
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>>175887819
Shield charge does the same thing. Do you think that needs a nerf too?
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>>175887894
which shield charge? conq's?
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>>175887812
You learn that with experience. It's honestly not that hard.
Warlord's heavies and lights start up in the exact same way, so it's hard to know whether or not you're parrying early when you react, but that doesn't change knowing what you parried when you land one.
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>tfw you think season 2 will fix the game and make it great
>tfw you realize that the servers are shit and if they aren't fixed nothing else matters
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>>175887959
Conq's bash does that.
Long Arm does that
Nobushi's kick does that, to a degree.
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>>175887798
>>175887725

>raider decides to dodge later
>he eats a shoulder anyway because you can let go at any time, and the hit box on the charge is stupid big

Keep white knighting your crutch character faggots.
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>>175887812
don't gauge it so much on the animation as much on the speed of the attack itself.
>>175888097
>Conq's bash does that.
I've never seen it do that
>Long Arm does that
as a rep 12 LB, I can tell you that it doesn't. if your opponent dodges, it's a whiff.
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>>175888178
>Keep white knighting your crutch character faggots

I play Raider
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last webm for (you)s, going to bed

>>175887819
>>175887590
>>175888178
>see an attack coming
>dodge
>it was a heavy
>get hit
>somehow it's alright

>>175887507
slow as shit, become a parry god, drain stamina, 2 shot fools who fall for your bait, ignore 50/50s from other classes
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>>175888097
Those are all attacks with a set animation.

You never know when the warden's going to release his bash.
>>
orochi vs warden is such a bad matchup, as sson as you parry one of their crushing counters they turlte up, which means you can only zone, which takes half your stamina, then if you have to roll away you have no stam

Very fun
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>>175888192
I'll admit I don't play Law so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if you queue up a Long Arm as you opponent dodges, it'll track them

t. fucked up and dodged after a shove and ate a Long Arm that followed me.
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>>175888306
>>see an attack coming
>>dodge
>>it was a heavy
>>get hit
>>somehow it's alright
the difference being I have the option to parry a normal attack, instead of dodging. obviously I can't parry the shoulderbash
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>>175888485
I don't use long arm often, but I've never ever had it track people.
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>>175888501
You have the option to cancel the shoulder with a light
>BUT HE CAN CANCEL AND PARRY IT
Not on reaction.
>BUT WHAT IF HE PREDICTS IT AND CANCELS IT EARLY?
Then you never had to dodge anyway.
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>>175885921
>Shoulder charge whipping around 180 degrees after you were outmaneuvered
yeah brah. Shoulder charge is fine. Not OP at all.
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>>175888756

>>175888306
>>175888647
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ok, but seriously, am I the only one having d/c issues? i haven't been able to play through a full match of 4v4 at all today.
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>>175888316
Well don't stand right next to him and you'll have time to react.

>>175888756
As has been mentioned, a lot of the bashes do that.
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>>175888485
>>175888615
It does occasionally. I'm not sure what the conditions are, but it's happened. I think when the opponent literally mashes dodge after you shove them, they dodge early enough for the long arm to track them and hit them before they can dodge again.

Definitely doesn't happen often.

t.rep 16 law
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>>175886616
I'm trying to convince myself to use KB/M, but goddamn, I'm too used to controller

How long would it take to get used to it?
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>>175886476
>Doesn't supply a weakness
Why not leap that wall, if you're so great.
>>
>>175888097
>>175888192
I don't really know about conq I don't play him much.

Long Arm wise I've seen it hit people after they backdash - never really see it with side dashes though.

As someone who plays a lot of Nobushi any non-heavy non-lawbringer class who knows how to side dash has no business getting hit with the kick unless they're backed into a corner or being ganked.
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>>175888647
>You have the option to cancel the shoulder with a light
that was my go-to measure before the shoulderbash was changed, now it comes out fast enough that you almost have to predict the shoulderbash to have a chance of stuffing it with a light.
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>>175888306
Would being unable to cancel out of it (Unless you release or cancel into GB) make it easier? I'll admit, being able to block/crushing counter is kinda gay.
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Holy fuck the XP we are going to get during this update are going to be insane

The game is adding a plus 25% XP boost now permanently for all players

We are getting atleast 2 weeks worth of champion status which is a another 25% for yourself BUT then you give another 10 percent to all other players in the lobby.

Does that 10% for other players stack?
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>>175888825
I had that yesterday, got booted off of 5 matches, I just gave up for the day
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>>175886760
>Correctly predicting a bash, so you sidestep
>Game autocorrects and tracks literally 180 degrees
You're making an argument for the game holding your hand. gg
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>everyone screaming that warden is OP instead of learning him
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>>175888875

2 days took me

different anon, had almost 200 hours in controller, 3x as good now after swapping to keyboard, its jusy way easier
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>>175888836
>a lot of the bashes do that
Literally how can you justify the SB doing that with that response? What do you not understand that the other bashes cannot be charged up to make your opponent guess when it's going to be released?
They all have an animation that is definite, and if you dodge too early on those, you just fucked up.
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>>175889118
I guess I'll try making the switch then, thanks anon o/
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>>175887087
Shame you can't miss shoulder charges cause the game autolocks on prolonged holds.
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>>175889109

I have a rep 4, he's still OP

>>175889171

if you ave 2 buttons on your mouse for feint and gb you are golden
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>>175887725
>>175887798
Samefagging this hard
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>>175889136
Like I responded to the other guy, if you back up, you'll have a bit of time to dodge the shoulder.
>>
I haven't played since launch.

I think my highest rep was a Valkyrie at like rep 2.

Good time to come back?
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>>175888097
Long arm does not whip around 90 degrees. But as a general rule of thumb, yeah, if you commit to an attack and miss due to a dodge, but the game automatically gives you a free hit, then you're goddamn right it needs a nerf.
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>>175889385
Wait two weeks.
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>>175889293
>Two people that have the same opinion are the same person

Okay dude.

Filename
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>>175889293
I don't even have a rep in warden and all you shits are the ones complaining. Certain bits about him are OP, yeah, but the shoulder bash by itself is fine. Changing the length of the charge or how fast he travels in the charge might fix it (As well as all his cancels), but I'm no game developer or whatever.
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>>175888817
>Defending your character's ability to never have to commit
But PK's are fine because you can just block the light spam.
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>>175889368
I can agree with that, just as long as you realize that the "other bashes do the same" argument isn't a valid argument.
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>>175889502
What happens in two weeks?
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>>175888836
Conq's does it, and nobushi's does to a degree. That's it. Conq is fucking useless outside of his bashes, and nobushi's can't be guaranteed. Neither of which can be held and released at varying times to cheese it.
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>>175889514
PHOTOSHOP
there can't be more than one retard defending warden, simply can't
I refuse to believe it
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afer getting alot better over the last few days Ive noticed the problem of the defensive meta, Im playing roach vs raider and really theres just alot of blocking going on, we can't fford to go balls out aggression and its hard as fuck to break open a turtle as roach unless flicker all over the place, same for the raider I was vsing

kinda meh desu, thats why I like dominion, no one can really afford to turtle there
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>>175889418
It can, I've had it happen many times. It's usually when your opponent starts his dodge right as the long arm animation is starting.
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>>175889514
If my fucking screenshot button would work I'd post one too, but fuck it

>>175889592
Well, the point was that if you change the shoulder bash into being unable to track, you'd have to change the rest, which seems excessive. I don't main warden so I can't speak for his ins and outs, but the way you guys shit all over him sometimes is retarded.
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>>175889109
Warden's one of my mains. His shoulderbash is borderline unfair, especially against non-twitchy opponents. Don't be made cause people are criticizing your main. If you're a decent player, you'd be able to play the dude even without shoulderbash at all. He's got a ton of options.
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>>175889721
>His screenshot button doesn't work
Get a new keyboard you fuck

>>175889694
I technically used Gimp because that's what I pasted the screenshot into.
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Can you faggots for ONE night not do this warden shit posting
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>>175889816
>ton of options
i would love for you to name them, warden main, because if you actually mained warden you would know he has one option - top light
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>>175889709
You realize you can literally side step without dodging long-arm, right? Next you're going to say the demon grab on shugo will whip around once in a blue moon.
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>>175889910
I honestly need to stop defending him but one of my personal ticks is people that are vocally incorrect.

Like legit one of my personal weaknesses is that I'll sit there for hours arguing with some flatearther just because I think they're a moron and it bothers me to no end that they're retarded and don't realize.
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>>175889985
anon, I...
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>>175889721
I'm not necessarily complaining about warden. I'm just saying that you can't really compare warden's bash to others because the other bashes don't vary in when they're going to hit. When you see the animation start, you know exactly when to dodge.
With warden, he can release it damn near immediately, since it's speed was buffed, or he can wait a little before releasing, or he can wait a little more, or just a bit more. You get the idea.

The "back up away from him" is valid, however in that webm, the raider didn't have that option, as he was against a wall. I suppose you could say that that's his fault for getting in that situation, but it still does not justify a literal 180 degree turn.
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>>175886760
its a vortex numbnuts.
valk has a mixup
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>>175889956
>ignoring the bullshit fast zone
>crushing counter

yea nah
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>new stuff shown
>thread is nothing but a warden defending/bashing shit fest

This games community is truly awful.
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>>175890182
What's new?
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>>175889956
>Only has top light
>Doesn't mention the guaranteed 2 hit combo from right
>Doesn't mention one of the fastest zones in game
>Doesn't mention crushing counter
>Doesn't mention being able to tech untechable gb's
Holy shit I knew some warden mains were shitty, but are you really this much of a meme?
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>>175890182
I know, if people just accepted that Warden is stupid strong with one move having more mix ups than entire characters movesets have we could move on, but people need to insist their crutch character is balanced
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>>175890116
>Attack animation that can finish one of multiple ways depending on inputs
>Not a mix-up

But that's just wrong
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>>175890240
Players will have the option to adjust the Deadzone on controllers on both PC and Consoles,
The possibility to remap buttons on controllers is being worked on,
Gear Stats will have a different curve in obtaining, so that it's easier to catch up with gear,
Ungeared characters will have an easier time against geared opponents,
Upgrading gear will cost less steel and salvage,
Feat Cooldown Reduction, Throw Distance, Block Damage Resistance, Sprint Speed - are getting removed,
Defense Penetration stat will be added,
4 New Weapons + 2 New Armors per each Character,
Orange Gear (new tier) will be obtainable after Reputation 5,
XP gain will be increased by 25% permanently,
12 Days of Free Champion Status at start of Season 2,
4 Scavanger Creates will be given out at Season 2,
New maps: The Forge (Preview), Temple Garden (Preview),
Bug Fixes for bugs like Guard-Break Feint, Unlocked Attacks, Warden Shoulderbash Target Change, and more.


Can these fucking warden shitposters get out? Every fucking night
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>>175890248
>being able to tech untechable gb's

Wait, what?

I'm not a warden main, nor do I hate him, just genuinely curious.
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>>175889514
>>175889293
>>175889721
There, found the file where the screenshots were going

>>175890082
Yeah, the raider didn't have a whole lot of options there. Warden's ability to cornerfuck people is pretty uncomfy.
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>>175890284
People eventually realized that pk mains defending their crutch were full of shit. They'll realize it soon enough with Warden.
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>>175889665
Season 2 starts
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>>175890150
>crushing counter
harder to pull off, only works for top attacks, same dmg as a parry
>zone
500ms, unsafe on block, 50% stam drain

next you will say he has the fastest attacks in the game too?
speaking of the devil>>175890248
>side lights
600ms, 24 dmg, parry bait, no one will let them hit you
>one of the fastest zones
>Doesn't mention crushing counter
see above
>Doesn't mention being able to tech untechable gb's
eh?
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>>175889109
warden was the first main i had, quit after rep 4 because he was not fun stomping people with by spamming a move i have a 66% chance of getting free damage out of it, a 23 and 2/3rds chance of going back to neutral, and a 9 and 1/3rd chance of being punished out of it
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>>175890357
Wardens can still tech gbs after whiffing a gb attempt, similar to how a raider can dodge, but tech a gb right after
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Stop talking about Warden

Its probably 2 guys too fucking faggots
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>>175890248
>Two hit combo from right
Will never be used except off a bash. It is parrybait in neutral, it is inferior to a side heavy off a GB except for the fact it chains into the shoulder.
>Fastest zones in the game
It's also the only zone in the game that's unsafe on block
>Crushing counter
Literally a fancy parry. Does top heavy damage, so if you're playing by a wall the only thing crushing counter does better is chain into a bash.
>tech untechable GBs
This just isn't a thing.
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>>175890515
no.
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>>175890515
But that's not a thing.
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>>175889668
conqs doesnt. once it starts, its locked into that trajectory save for 15-20 degrees of rotation in case the person is simply sidewalking.
same with nobushi. not on the same level as wardens
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Should Nobushi be barefoot?

Yes or no?
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Everyone gives Warden players shit because you all are unbearable assholes about your class. Seriously every time someone says your shit is OP [which is kind of is] you are all up in arms telling people to 'git gud fag' or 'lol stay mad'

then you get all defensive when motherfuckers leave your games and why no one wants to join the knight faction.

why not take your victories in silence, you don't see Valk popping off at the mouth every time someone says Sweep is undodgeable, or conqs sperging out about being harder to open up than your mother's fucking legs.

Wardens, get over yourselves, because until Warden isn't top 5, you're always gonna get shit, so shut up and take it on face neck and chest like the glory whores you are.
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>>175890696
Nobushi has great feet
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>>175890347
Oh I meant "what's new" as in "what's new about warden shitposting" but I was actually looking for something like this as well. Saved me the trouble of having to look it up.

Thanks!
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>>175890714
>you don't see Valk popping off at the mouth every time someone says Sweep is undodgeable, or conqs sperging out about being harder to open up

But we do. Every time someone bitches about the sweep being undodgeable like 4 people come out of the woodwork and call them garbage.
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>>175890362
Fuck, then I didn't upload the picture, I'm retarded
I'm also posting in several other threads and keep forgetting that I need to post this here
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>>175890696

Nobushis design would be even better if they ditch the nasty leather shoes for these
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>>175890391
>Crushing counter harder to pull off
It's literally just as easy as a parry, wtf are you on
>Crushing counter only works for top attacks
You're correct here, but this is hardly an argument
>Same damage as a parry
You're fucking retarded. You can literally two shot classes with crushing counters.
>Zone has some drawbacks if you miss it
Jesus christ stop the presses, you mean you can't just spam it and have no drawbacks? Almost as if it was the shoulderbash
>What is a gb
>Doesn't know about teching superiority
From your post I can either surmise that you're either not a warden main, or you are and you're literally a shoulderbash spam shitter, you're both and being dishonest, or none of the above.
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>>175889695
>we can't fford to go balls out aggression and its hard as fuck to break open a turtle

same with any fighting game. you take a risk and try to get damage (no top player does this) or you wait for a mistake or opening then do your safest attack. since attacks are so slow in this game and with no dps slugfests cant happen, and if they do, they last just as long as they do in every other fighting game. one attack that gives you frame advantage
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>>175890903
>You can literally two shot classes with crushing counters.
Crushing Counter does 40 damage. Name a single character with 80 health.
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>>175890843
I guess i'm the minority who just plays the fucking game. Every time I see 'valk sweep is op' i just shake my head and keep scrollin'

t. Valk Main
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>>175889985
nope, the attacker rotates fast enough to catch simple sidestrafing

>>175890314
bro if you really need to have the meaning of vortex spoonfed to you, go to shoryuken forums or /fgg/.
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last post for today, i just cant deal with some people's stupidity

>>175890903
>It's literally just as easy as a parry, wtf are you on
no, parries have their own mechanics, crushing counter only has superior block on startup
>hardly an argument
hardly and argument
>You're fucking retarded. You can literally two shot classes with crushing counters.
cc - 40 dmg
top h - 40 dmg
>Jesus christ stop the presses, you mean you can't just spam it and have no drawbacks? Almost as if it was the shoulderbash
implying anyone good will not block it 100% and you get punished for it
>Doesn't know about teching superiority
literally not a thing

you seem upset about being proven wrong, you should reevaluate your arguments and cool down before you post again

good night
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>>175890347
>Warden Shoulderbash Target Change

saw warden mains on reddit complaining that this got taken away. is it still here?

pretty annoying especially since they took it away from everyone else. using it with shugokis charged heavies during revenge was sick
>>175890357
he used to be able to tech pretty much any grab with debuff gear, even in modes where gear stats were turned off
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>>175891264
I'm pretty sure the target change got removed, yeah
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>>175890391
dude any 500 ms attack is fast enough when you dont have to buffer the guard change.

one of the few pieces of offense conq has, even though his lights are slower than that.
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this game needs a training mode where you can show a bot to do what you want
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>>175877094
>rep 46
>highest rep possible is rep 30
found the pk shitter
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>those showboating centurion moves
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>>175890843
because its reactable with any sort of punish except charged heavies
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how do i train light parrying

how do i fucking stop getting matched with flicker spamming orochis
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>>175891563
His attitude is the best thing about him imo
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>>175891674
play conq and laugh as you stay in allguard nonstop, then when the enemy tries to grab you, it instantly gives you stamina regen
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>>175891643
Except it you get hit by the second light while trying to change your guard.
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>>175891706

I love how he in mid combat he has a come at me animation

The trailer did say his confidence radiates out
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>>175891674
Flicker's being fixed eventually. Orochi's not gonna have shit then, tho
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>tfw confident vs wardens, pks, warlords
>completely fall to pieces when faced with orochis
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>>175864172
Somebody got a fresh hot AD
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I just saw a PK do her grab n stab and oneshot an orochi
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>>175891563

>look in the comments
>did the developers watch gladiator and think that's exactly what a centurion does and looks like? and did they watch Naruto and think that's exactly what shinobi are because running into an open battle is exactly what a shinobi did not assassinations, espionage, sabotage and guerrilla warfare?

Realism fags need to be gassed
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>>175892415

I mean to be fair the art designers did use Kakashi Sensei as a reference
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>>175892549
Source on this so I can laugh my ass off?
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>>175866972
>all these people that want to go back to losing every match
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>>175891563
If nothing else I dig shinobi's acrobatics and kicks
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>>175892054
im pretty sure thats a bug though
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>>175892614
Check out the shinobi concept art, second from the left in the OP image.
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>>175892614
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>Thunderstorm outside but I'm playing anyways
>Lights flickered but didn't turn off computer so I figure I'm alright
>Get into a game of elim
>Lose a 2v1 against a kensei because I'm not really paying attention and I'm screwing stuff up
>Power flickers and shuts down my computer the literal exact second the other guy kills me
>Probably look like a super salty asshole

T-thanks...
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>>175892681
just take away the shove on block and maybe more recovery on his shove so you dont have to mash dodge to reliably dodge a light
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>>175892814

Oh jeez
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>>175892681
>saved my shitty joke from last night

For what purpose
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>>175892814
WHY
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>>175893048
To make people mad, I would imagine. It's an okay joke.
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>>175892814
>>175893090

This is to a point that you can be Kakashi
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>>175893134
>the second one is literally kakashi
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>>175893134

I really like what they did with the Centurion sets
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>>175892814
>>175893134
I'm convinced they are aware of all the weeb anime tier -teleports behind you- jokes surrounding the Samurai and just fully embraced it.
I refuse to believe they actually did this shit thinking it was a cool character design and not ironic
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>>175893134
>>175893247
I swear, if that's in the game, I'm going to use it, even if I get epic gear.

I was going to play Orochi as annoying as possible, but shinobi provides so many more opportunities.
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>>175893346
They totally are, dude. They hade pictures of Kakashi in the powerpoint showing their references, as well as constantly saying they were pulling inspiration from manga.
They gave Shinobi the naruto run. One of the devs even called it the naruto run on stream.
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>>175893346
I dig it, dude. Centurion is literally one dude sent to end a war, specifically because he's a badass. It's like a cheesey action movie. It's why I want more campaign, desu.
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>let honorfags duke it out in elim
>when he gets low hp I kunai him

heh, funny when everyone looks at you
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>>175893492
>they gave shinobi the naruto run

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE I ACTUALLY WANTED TO TRY HIM BUT THE NARUTO RUN IS GOING TO MAKE ME CRINGE EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>175893651
This. I fucking love orochi but every time he puts his sword away and sheathes it IN HIS OWN HAND it makes me think he's slicing his fucking hand open every time.
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WHY ARE THE BOT MATCHES ALWAYS BROKEN GOD DAMN IT UBISOFT
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>>175893492

explain why he runs normally then as well?

I dont think that will be his permarun, I bet its a perk
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>>175893651
I'm pretty sure it's a feat or something. The trailer also shows a normal sprint.
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>>175893492
I saw that. They fully embraced the meme tier shit with Shinobi, and I honestly kind of like it. It's better than making him an edgy weeb instead of a parody of one
>>175893498
Centurion actually looks badass though, his design is actually perfect, and goddamn that execution where he shoves his sword into the enemy then does the "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED" motion is pure fucking gold
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>>175893762
There's the walk-run people do when moving around and not walking, and then there's a sprint. Was he actually sprinting? I haven't seen the stream so I can't say.
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>>175893598
>Let honorfags fight in elimination
>My teammate dies
>Impale the enemy into a wall and finish them off with a heavy as they try executing
>WOW WOW WOW
Every time
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so how did valk get ninja nerfed? I haven't spotted any difference.
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>>175893841
Yeah it looked like he was sprinting without the naruto run at some points in the stream. It may be a fear, but I'll be so fucking mad if there's literally another "dude just run away lmao" feat added to the game.
I'm already fucking sick of Valks and Zerkers popping their speed buffs just to abandon the fight because they're losing
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>>175893905
honorfags are the worse
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>>175891563
>shinobi literally teleports
epic, ubisoft
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>>175893785
>Are you not entertained? Execution
i love how he still goes for the decapitation afterwords, as if running them through and mocking them isn't enough
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>>175894627
They are. You can't even try helping them without them throwing a fucking tantrum, trying to fuck you over for it.
>Playing Law in elim
>Finish my guy off, go to help teammates
>Find a teammate who's one hit from dead
>Come in and flip the enemy over
>He thanks me by stepping back and emoting nonstop as I flip the enemy repeatedly, refusing to get in the free hits, or even just go fucking grab health
>The enemy let's me flip him until he gets revenge then he dodges and pops it
>Nearly die fighting him as the teammate emotes the entire time
How fucking autistic do you have to be to do this shit?

And every single thread on the official forums asking honorfags to fuck off to duels and stay out of elim or brawls they all immediately come forward
>NO YOU GO TO SKIRMISH, HAVE SOME HONOR!
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>>175894918
Really the only time I honorfag in elims is if it's the last dude and he doesn't sprint off to rez people. Ganking 3 or 4v1 isn't all that fun.
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>>175893134
I'm going full T4 with yellow/teal for team colors so I can be Skorpion and Sub Zero.
>>175893345
It looks like the second is Segmentata with Hamata underneath, like Ryse. I also love the Varangian-esque Squamata, despite the fact that I will probably use either T4 for max style points or the T2 for Segmentata.
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Since centurion is clearly gonna be a hardcore character, is anyone other than me gonna iron man mode him and learn him without any HUD?
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>Decide I need a break from sweaty 1v1
>Take my unleveled law into dominion
>It's actually fun as fuck

The 108 gank squads that you get now and then dampen then fun a bit but holy shit it's so enjoyable for the most part. The dev team should focus on this stuff to draw the normies in, sure balance for 1v1, but keep the main focus on just having big fun cluster fuck brawls instead of trying to turn this into MLG competitive shit.
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>warlord bot ledges me
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>>175895346
The problem is they have to focus on the competitive shit because right now the playerbase is almost entirely made up of die hard competitive players
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>>175895484
On PC maybe, but the console player base is still a good size and I really doubt the try hards make up the majority. But like I said, I still want them balance the characters for 1v1. But pushing comp modes feels like it could just be the finial nail for this game population wise.
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I'm broken

Im going for warlord, I'm good at parries and ledging, this will be fun
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>>175895748
They've made it clear that they aren't looking into different changes for console, despite people asking for it. They've said maybe it's a possibility after they fix the deadzones and add controller remapping for console, but they'd have to see how that helps us first
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why is every berserker i see a high rep scrublord who smashes their keyboard with maxed gear and crazy revenge gain
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>>175895335
>Since centurion is clearly gonna be a hardcore character
How is Centuruion more "hardcore" than anyone else on the cast?
What does "hardcore" even mean?
>is anyone other than me gonna iron man mode him and learn him without any HUD?
I hope not. I don't know why anyone would ever intentionally limit the information in a fight to make it harder.
If you're better than someone just 3-0 them and move onto the next match.
No need to impose restrictions on yourself for no reason that no one else would even know you're doing.
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>>175895996

yeah hes a cunt in 4v4 with max gear
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>>175858327

They say it's priority 1 fix for the next patch.
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>>175896171
Hardcore as in the style/personality of the character. He's obviously a balls to the wall kind of dude, considering the attitude of his executions.

Playing with no hud on sounds kind of dumb tho.
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>A fully geared Warlord with the all his passive buffs tanks heavy hits like they are lights
>His heavies have super armor so he can trade heavies with you and only take the damage for a light attack
Who the fuck approved this horseshit?
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>>175896171
Different Anon but
>Imposing limitations
Having also tried to HUD, or at least no reticules, makes the game a lot different and if two people are playing like that, actually forces you to be more aggressive
>Centurion Hardcore
Maybe because the character has a brutal and menacing look? Are you not entertained? He has a lot going for him
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>>175889385
Probably. It's enough time to practise and reach rep 5 before the new gear.
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> nobushis who turtle until they get revenge and then they spam kicks to knockdown and get top heavies that delete half your health per swing
This is whole new type of gay
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>>175885923
>no replies
It's almost as if crutchkins can't argue this point.
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I play Warden. Should I take revive speed or stamina regen?
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I'd wait two weeks so that Season 2 starts, on the 16th.
Since we're gonna get new content, and EXP will be boosted by 25%
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>>175896917
Revive Speed is the toptier aids stat. Pair it with sprintspeed and be a medic. Anyone not executed or ledged isn't really dead.
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>>175896910
God damn it, the thread finally moved away from warden shitposting, don't bring it back
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>>175889816
What the fuck are you talking about? Warden has NO options high level. Top light is easily reacted to and is parried without any issue. Side lights are the same but 2x worse. Everybody and their mother keeps their guard left to prevent zone. It's a free GB on block you know. Even if you whiff it, free GB or free damage. Even if you hit the person infront of you, someone can come up behind you and GB you - making it unreliable to use in ganks (which is the sole purpose of zone attack). Warden's moveset is so small. He has nothing viable whatsoever. The only thing you can do against a turtle is SB, and shitters want to nerf one trick pony's one trick. If they buffed his combat ability (not taking into account SB), I'd be happy. Infact, if they removed SB and replaced it with half-swording I'd be happier.
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>>175897028
Aight thanks.
the revive speed armour also looks better
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>>175896910
It was answered in other replies around you. Just because (You) weren't tagged doesn't mean your point wasn't refuted.
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>>175897117
>5 warden dubloons have been deposited into your account
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>>175893048
I just laughed at the effort made for something so small.
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>>175897117
>shitters want to nerf one trick pony's one trick
Normal people want the shoulder to be nerfed because Wardens never do fucking anything besides this ridiculously overpowered moves that has more mix ups than some entire characters movesets have
>It's totally fair that Warden can cancel his shoulder to parry your counter
>It's totally fair the shoulder costs almost no stamina and chains into itself
>It's totally fair that the shoulder chains are now so fast you have to predict light to stop them, not react to them
The shoulder is overpowered. You can whine all you want that he's useless without it, it doesn't justify him having an overpowered move that is easily spammable, AND encourages Warden to turtle because he can chain into a shoulder off a parry
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>>175897028
Revive speed doesn't make that much of a difference. It is only noticeable on characters with the fast revive feat.
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>>175898330
Get good. Lawbringers will never do anything but top light unless you fucking let them. That's like saying "this pk keeps zone spamming me in revenge", clearly you need to adapt. Can't not learn the game Anon, the devs won't always pander to low-level players. SB is not a real issue at high level. What's wrong with him being able to cancel into parry? Without would be obsolete. Shoulder costs a shit ton of stamina if you cancel it into GB late into the charge, and no one in their right mind is going to spam it in a real fight. Especially not when OOS is punished even further. You don't have to predict light. It's as easy as "I SEE ORANGE, TOP LIGHT!". Predicting only comes into play with dodging the SB and getting that free GB (it exists, try it with a friend).

The shoulder is not overpowered. You can whine all you want, but the devs aren't going to mindlessly pander to people that don't want to learn the game. If Warden's SB was nerfed, then you'd really see turtling. It enforces the turtle meta because you're taking out his only offensive capability. Then again, I can't beat it so nerf it :^)
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>>175899085
if you let them*
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>join dominion match in progress
>losing 500-7
>maybe the enemy is pretty good
>they actually only throw out heavies and can't even tech

Holy shit how bad do you have to be to lose to these people
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>>175899376

Probably playing against people who also only throw heavies slower.
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>>175898882
So I wouldn't get it on Warden?
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>>175899085
>SB is not a real issue at high level
Top fucking kek. Go watch literally ANY high level Warden gameplay. Wardens in tournaments, and even the best Warden player there is do nothing but spam shoulder bash or turtle.
>You don't have to predict light
Yes, when they chain shoulders together you have to. If you get hit by a shoulder, the second shoulder will come out so fast you cannot react to it, instead have to predict it's coming.

And I love how Wardens always fall back on B-BUT IT PREVENTS TURTLING. No, it prevents others from turtling, meanwhile Warden can turtle all he likes, and crack other turtles
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>>175899541
I mean revive speed is noticeable as a stat, but it is pretty insignificant unless you have the fast revive feat, in which the stat would only make it marginally faster or slower.

Pic related is my Warden stats, though now that we are getting a new tier, you probably shouldn't worry about it too much until you have epic gear.
Unless you are picking between items you already have
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>>175900186
Is revive speed still gonna be in the new gear stats?
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>>175900186
They've also said they're planning on making the lowest stat on your gear give a much bigger penalty, which might absolutely fuck over people using sword builds with stamina cost reduction as the lowest stat
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>>175900186
>revenge gain by injury

but why?
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>>175900438
So you have a chance when getting penetrated by a four man ganbang
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>>175900270
It is.
>>175900438
Eh, I go full revenge build when try-harding.
I might switch it up with the new stats, where it looks like you have to pick between a ton of general attack/defense and revenge builds. Will depend on how a finished build either way will go.
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>>175896770
>people who turtle with a character with one of the slowest guard changes and spam a punishable move
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>>175900617
>removed feat cooldown reduction
Literally why
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>>175900808
Because it GREATLY affected people with traps like the vikangz. Zerkers in dominion could literally fill a point with 5+ traps
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>>175900881
At least it leads to interesting circumstances rather than a PK mashing revenge lights.
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>>175900617
>>175900808
>>175900881
I'm a little depressed about sprint speed being removed
Impossible to catch assassins now
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>>175900617
could the removal of block damage resistance signal an increase in chip damage with season 2?
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>>175900967
I'm also pissed about that. I maxed out sprint speed on Law specifically to catch assassins who try to abandon the fight
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>>175900960
>interesting circumstances
>zerker lays down a trap in every single entrance to a point
>literally nothing you can do about it except walk right in
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>>175900808
According to the stream devs, feat cooldown and throw distance was broken or led to unintended wonky/weirdness.

They also claimed sprint speed and block damage resistance were underutilized, which I would find very surprising. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that reducing the execution health regen stat led to virtually no noticeable reduction. Therefore, every single one of my characters was max sprint speed with minor buff in block damage.
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>>175900971
Possibly, there is also the introduction of defense penetration, which as the devs explained it, simply partially nullifies the benefit of defense. Unless I misunderstood them, most of them don't speak English as a first language.
>>175901193
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>>175901084
>Arrive in groups
>one man holds off zerker while the other recovers
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>>175901445
>teammates are busy dying elsewhere cause theyre shit

What now
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>>175901536
You wouldve lost anyway then
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gotta love the byzantine looking armour for the centurion, second one from the right.
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>>175902237
I'm probably going to use either the Segmentata or the ornamental Musculata, but I really appreciate the addition of the Byzantine Squamata. I love the variations we have been getting.
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>>175902565

i will most definately be using the byzantine one.
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just spent 15k on ken-samas outfit

i doubt im gonna be able to save up for both new characters, and since its pretty much day 1 centurion main i guess weeb shit isnt gonna be possible.
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>>175902906
S E A S O N

S

A

P
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>>175902685
>>175902565

Definitely* Had a few beers, spelling derpy.
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>>175901193
wut? block damage is basicly useless. And execution health is pretty significant, you get less that a bar or a bar at most with mininmum, and can get up to 3 bars or more with maximum.
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>playing dominion as conq
>conq on team
>river fort
>two of you go to A point and line up at the ladders and bridges to block enemies from taking the point whenever they show up
>hold it against all comers for the entire game
>win
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>>175903353
>half your team camping one point
>enemy team loses

okay
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>>175902237

I was amazed to see ubi actually make a low fantasy version of that armor for this game

Art team are history anime loving nerds
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>>175903130
>season pass
or
>season sap

booth are correct
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>>175903130
Is the "sap" meant to refer to the kind of people who buys the ability to use a fighter one week early? If so I agree
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>>175903452

B is right below A, anon.

And sallying is a part of a siege.
>>
>>175903653
>>175903680
I was trying to be cheeky and failed
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>entire team complains you're the most shittest member on team since lowest score.
>actually spent most time 2/3v1 at random area of map not having time to camp points or kill soldiers.
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>rep 19 orochi gets 2-0'd and then reverts to spamming his flicker and i lose
fix this holy fucking christ
>>
> Full team goes LB
> they're all retarded
great
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>>175903187
Basic execution regen and minimized execution regen is virtually the same.
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>>175903930
It's literally always to the right mate. He only has top light and zone. That's it.
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>AI bot pops revenge while already in revenge
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>>175904109
i block top when i see it flicker top
it's not like warden where i can just react to him spinning
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>>175904109
It's metaphorically annoying m8
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do they have any plans to fix the defensive meta or are they still jacking off on warlard top tier
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>Shinobi can literally teleport behind you
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>>175903130
save 33 dollars
All heroes free
Elite outfits for every hero
I think season passes are cancer but this is well worth 40$
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Post YFW you parried Orochi's Flicker 3+ times.

Still didn't help because entire team couldn't handle 1v1
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>>175904131
>bots still tech untechable guardbreaks.
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>>175904360
there "fix" is adding op heroes who can get pass turtles.
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>>175904832
>Law bot canceled a bash to a block only to bash off said block
>>
I might be dumb but how do I change the input controls for a controller on PC? I don't like the default way it's set up.
>>
getting bored now desu, maybe I should take a break from this game until new heroes

or I can learn warlord and fuck everyone up
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>it's a 3 of your teammates struggle against 1 opponent while the other objectives are contested
>bonus scene where they all die to the same guy over and over again in the same spot
>>
>Learn how to do Raider's unlock bullshit in duels with 100% consistency
>Make 5 people rage quit

I should probably stop doing this, but it's so damn funny to see them panic. Also, can we do dailies with matchmaking off yet?
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> hit a spot of lag
> You have been removed from the game due to low FPS.
fuck you ubi
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>>175857330
Are the servers still shitty? Im on ps4
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>>175904732
post yfw you humiliate the Orochi as the Centurion

i cant wait
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>turtling valk
>I'm Orochi

fuck everything

>>175905589

prob gonna swap to cent if he fun
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Is there a reason why all incompetent buffoons are always on same side?
I'm trying to handle a 3v1 on Point C while my entire team is just camping Point A. Literally no one is at soldier lane.
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>no one online
>have to grind out brawls vs ai v/out matchmaking for xp
give me centurion or give me death
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>>175905924
>no one online
>>
I got banned from the forhonor sub Reddit for calling out the head mod for being a cancerous game-leaving cuck after he left three elimination games in a row because he was shit talking and losing.
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>>175905924

Just wait

Grinding will be fucking easier with the base XP gain increase plus our elite staus and plus other people giving us another 10%
>>
>>175905960
>>175906035
I waited on the "very high activity" dominion twice, both times timed out. There's NO ONE online.
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>>175906103
fellow ausfag? same issue
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>>175906145
ye
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>>175906227
less people playing. it shows high player count for overall, but as there's no aussies playing the matchmaking gives up

fucking ubisoft
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>>175906227
what am I looking at here
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How do I change the default input settings on PC? Keymapping only lets me change the keyboard inputs
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>>175906319
a pupper
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>>175906378
for gamepad? use steam or some 3rd party one.
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>>175906565
how do I use steam? It's a 360 controller.
>>
centurion looks fun

anyone buy the season piss just to get access to him on the 16th?
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>>175906740
did you buy it through steam? If not add it to your libary. then use steam big picture mode to remap it.
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>>175905912
>Is there a reason why all incompetent buffoons are always on same side?
The only reason I can think of is Ubi matches premade squads against a team of randoms. Because the enemies are always fucking coordinated meanwhile my team is full of retards who just run around trying to stack buffs
>>
>>175906758
I've had the season pass. Preordered the collectors edition for that statue and got it got $113. I definitely got my moneys worth, but I wish they'd fix the connections
>>
migr8

>>175907286
>>175907286
>>175907286
>>175907286
>>175907286
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>>175862859
>>175863089
>You just a nigga with a garden hose
>>
Nobushi players/waifufags are the fucking worst. Every nigger and his daki has those stupid faggot cat ears now, and they all do the slow anime walk with the fucking petals. They're like a walking stereotype.
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