/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

first for both /svg/ and /hsg/ in op

third for virtual legos general

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4th 4 muh spengies playable when?

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5th for A L G O D O O

i wonder if it was the same guy who complained about seeing /egg/ when looking for /hsg/ and /svg/

>>175840918
I lurked both of those generals for a bit after they shitposted here, they fucking hate each other, probably not the same guy

>>175840882
Now add a little 'cover' that blocks all numbers while it's changing then opens again.
Just for more autism.

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>>175504053
I really liked C:SL at first but then I realized that it's extremely thin mechanically, even compared to SC2013, and anything further you might add is autism with no payoff. What a next-gen city building game would really need to explore is demographic simulation, landscape concerns like the effect of daylight and views on land values, land management shit like soil quality and water tables, and a proper dichotomy between pedestrian focused design and parking lot cul-de-sac hellholes.

You should be able to give all the fucks or none at all. Build a low-sprawling suburban yuppie paradise, or research the technology to stack buildings on top of each other and Kowloon Walled City that shit while mudslides close down your roads and Wal-Martia sinks into the ground. Sadly, it's almost impossible for a single company to implement this in $CURRENT_YEAR without bringing an ideological grudge into it.

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>>175841043

That would look pretty neat. I might do that for my current one.

But while I never say no to additional autism, I don't have the file of that any more (was a proof of concept).

>>175841116
Did even sim city 200 have better rich neighborhoods than C:S? They'd build big, dynamic walled off mansions with lots of grass and gardens and shit.

What really killed skylines for me was the ignorance and/or malice of the devs towards how roads work.

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>>175841289
>They'd build big, dynamic walled off mansions with lots of grass and gardens and shit.
I don't remember that part, but I do remember the dynamic airports that made no sense at all. Still a cool game, but SC4 was my childhood.

>What really killed skylines for me was the ignorance and/or malice of the devs towards how roads work.
Yeah, it was fucking bizarre how the cars would pile up on one lane like a bad Factorio bus.

>>175841702
> YWN build a highway splitter to stuff cars into every lane

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>>175841702
Almost as annoying as this bullshit. IRL the cars on the right would be able to go but in skylines they can't because the devs are fucking stupid.

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How do I fix this laser?

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Framerate goes right down with FRAPS on. I need to get me something better.

>>175842376
What's the problem besides it being space inefficient? Are the frequency doublers not working?

>>175842662
It's taking up (over) 20000 engine power, and It's not as impressive as I would've hoped. It has trouble cutting through armour, so I added a lot of frequency doublers.

Maybe I'm just doubting myself because I've not used lasers before.

>>175843735
For offense you want 4 Q-switches on all the couplers. Small setups without any storage aren't that impressive. Storage is how you get the blow-a-hole-through-an-eerie lasers without needing a continuous gorillion horsepower

>>175844341
So lots of storage and q-switches?

I tried q-switches on this one but it didn't do much, and storages just caused the damage to drop off significantly after about a second of firing.

Don't know if I tried both at once, but I'll try it now, thanks.

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Okay /egg/, I'm out of ideas. Tinkering with the registers gave me some fun but they're useless without a machine designed around them, and building another one of those would kill me.

What should I work on?
A-life?
Robots?
If robots, what do they do?
Cars?
Gearboxes?

>>175844706
It drops off, but the lowest output should still be equal to the continuous output of the same setup without storage.

>>175844890
so you are the algodoo life-form guy? what happened to those?

>>175844890
begin emulating really simple biological mechanisms

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>>175845007
Yeah. Still got the files for those. Made a few different types but I'm out of ideas aside for rebuilds, which tend to be boring.

>>175845093
Already done my man. Made cell-like mechs that use antennas or internal compasses to seek out food pellets.

>>175845332
go more complex, like worms or some fuggery

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>>175843735
>It's taking up (over) 20000 engine power, and It's not as impressive as I would've hoped

That's strange, this laser takes 32,000 power to run continuously and it's still pretty good after the initial storage burst.

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>>175845364
That's... not a bad idea. I might give that a shot.

I'll use a laser based eye which scans ahead of it. Soft-body outer layer and mouth, with the rigid internals in a few different segments to provide flexibility. The eye will scan a cone ahead of it since it will wriggle for movement.

Cheers anon

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> Watch spaceclangs
> Half the videos are "Just imagine how fun this could be if it worked"

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Decided against the fully segmented approach. Too fiddly, and too many geoms wasted transferring information down the segments.

Instead I'm going for a more compartmentalised build. 2 segments, head and body. The head is purely for sensing and eating, I'm going to use lasers to detect geoms, where input will be filtered in the head and passed down to the body, where the main mechanisms are. The head can be moved either side for food scanning via pistons in the body, connected with super-rigid springs (tendons, I guess?).

Using multiple lasers for the eyes will let me hopefully line the worm up perfectly for an attack approach. For instance, if the leftmost laser is triggered, the worm ceases moving and slowly moves its head left until the centre laser lines up perfectly, where it then thrusts forward. The pressure on the mouthparts of the worm colliding with the food pellet will trigger the eating response, and all that needs is for the food to be shuttled down to the "throat", where it is then pulled into the body.

May need to add a separate tail segment for using air-friction steering. Preliminary experiments not promising, I may have to make it purely thruster-based.

All thought-building right now but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.

>>175842601
Obviously Bullshit System studio?
>>175844890
>>175849478
MISO calculation unit, addition, sign changer, multiplication and division

>>175841116
KEEN:
>solar panels, the fuck you want that shit for you fucking idiot
>go mine that uranium you fucking pinko
>HA your ship just clanged, my sides

Colossal Order:
>we are the village green preservation society
>h-how d-do roads work I never driven a car

>>175849934
I liked how in update vid that intoduces solars they added "you asked for it", as to show their contempt

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Light speed mod: for when you wanna experiecne clang at the speed of light

>tfw steamtorio and pagetorio use same /roaming folder to store shit

how the fuck can i have parallel versions with and without mods

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>>175849701
>Miso calculation unit
Not sure what that is and google's given me nothing
>addition
Done a few times.
>sign changer
Is that like using two's complement and then inverting the sign bit?
>multiplication and division
is scary - got any good resources?

>>175850247
write your own batch files

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>>175849478
Alife is cool as all hell.

Have you ever heard of the Braitenberg vehicles? They manage to display avoidance and chasing behaviours by connecting analog light sensors directly I realize they'd need a driver to the motors, no state or memory involved. Seems kind of similar to what you're doing with the lasers.

>>175850361
Multiple Input Singular Operation aka mdsi mdso mdsp or whatever
a single flow through the arithmetic unit will yield 1 result per 1 input, but it can take many inputs parallely, try 4
basically you have 9 registers, 4 are input, 1 is modifier, 4 output registers (or you reuse the inputs)
example: 120+ (a,b,c,d) = (a+120, b+120, c+120, d+120), done in 1 passthrough of the calculating thingy (I don't want to use "1 clock cycle" since it's not only addition we are talking about)

about mul and div commands? div is scary since you have more fringe cases, mul however: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplication_algorithm#Shift_and_add

>>175851001
>>175850361
simillarily to "two's compiment" I am really shit at remembering the common, popular names

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>>175851001
Ahh cheers, I'll check those out. 9 registers might be a bit CPU heavy though. Stupid 21st century technology.

I'll definitely check out multiplication. It actually seems doable with the right mechanisms.

>>175850465
>connecting analog light sensors directly

You have just given me a fantastic idea, holy fuck.

Instead of the bot's lasers being its "eyes", I can instead cover the food particles in lasers shining in all directions (simulating reflected light).
The bots "skin" would be made up of photosensitive plates, which would each move a geom while a laser was shining on it. So if a laser hit it on its left hand side, I can directly hook the reaction to rotate the bot to the left towards the light source, and if the laser was then shining directly on its mouth it will simply go forward.

>>175849934
>>we are the village green preservation society
Thanks a lot, asshole, now I have to listen to VGPS and then Preservation acts 1 and 2.

>>175851001
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplication_algorithm
>page doesn't have the ultimate multiplication algorithm, for(n=0; n<y; n++) xy+=x;
gay

>>175851584
Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of the War of the Worlds

>>175852156
>Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of the War of the Worlds
Little too gimmicky for me, and yes I realize how ridiculous that sounds when I'm the one who brought up Preservation Act I and II.

>>175842142
Is this problem existing with or without trying those traffic improvement+intersection fine tuning mods on the workshop? I remember one called something along the lines of "Traffic President Edition" and there was some other big one.

I remember being able to remove traffic lights and fully change turn/straight road markings. That intersection also looks like it might work better if you used 1-way roads to merge the roads together at the left, and split the right side apart since the game wouldn't see it as 1 big blob intersection anymore.

>>175851558
Is that wing opening up to help counter the torque?

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>>175852526
>mods

I like that you can clip buildings together for monolithic commieblocks now, but the traffic customization ones look way too time consuming and badly integrated, unless there is a way of repeating Traffic President settings to other intersections somehow.

>>175852765

Yeah. The antenna is attached to springs so it remains semi-rigid when extended, otherwise it would think it hit a food particle just from the force of the bot rotating. So when it hits a particle it rebounds, which throws the bot off centre when it thrusts forwards, potentially missing the food. The wings flare out, which increases the air friction on that side of the bot which angles it back towards the food.

Plus it looks cool

>>175852156
>>175852289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAyCZxQUJEY

>>175854476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_4Fyu8UUI

>>175854607
>surf rock from hell
o-ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7aX4uBFg4

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Got light sensing working for the shell of the bot. Sensors are clustered more closely together at the front to help on homing in.

Each shell segment has a simple tiny script which changes the collision group depending on if it's hit by a laser or not. Since there's a rod with a nub overlapping an extrusion on each shell segment, if it's hit by a laser it's all like "oh shit we're both collision group J get out of here" and pushes the rod inward.

That's the only scripting I'm using (it makes me feel dirty). I'm going to amplify those tiny mechanical movements into rotation of the bot to face directly towards the light source.

>>175797191
Starbound is great
ftfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoJuolDQyxs

I attached a big gun to the front of my cruiser, I think it's pretty good.

>>175854847
Fuck man that shit is so good. I've known them for quite some time yet I hadn't given them a proper listen till now.

>>175862527
They call themselves desert rock but frankly it's surf to end all surf

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>mfw trains

Fuck everything

>>175854847

The first 5 minutes of this seems to be the same few bars repeated over and over again, what's the deal?

>>175862527
>>175863467
It's people-who-think-there's-an-"i"-in-"dude" rock

>>175863467
Desert rock is surf without the iconic vocals anyway. Plus some drugs. Add some distortion and you can call yourself stoner rock too.

>>175864426
>The first 5 minutes of this seems to be the same few bars repeated over and over again, what's the deal?
You can shuffle 10 whole albums of surf and it'll all flow together well because it's essentially all the same track. That's the appeal.

>>175865234
>That's the appeal.

It sure as heck doesn't sound appealing to me, I guess it's good if you want something to just listen to in the background though?

>>175864901
Use more pedals than guitar, sing like you hate your dad, and you can call yourself shoegaze. It's all on a spectrum.

>>175865430
it's background noise that's somewhat reminiscent of rock music, perfect for long hours in the office, where you'd like some rock / metal, but you can't really because you'd focus on music not work, or if you are just high as a stratosphere on drugs and need 10h

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>>175864426
>>175865430
It's more like extended jams recorded, rather than properly structured songs.
Personally I like it because it sounds like the shit I play on my guitar alone at night, and feels strangely nostalgic too.

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>>175864426
>those badly mined deposits

>>175865430
>>>175866006
>he doesn't listen to 20-30 minute long jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53twBY9Vu_Y

>>175867230
>he doesn't listen to four ten minuet long jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ak2E0igSx8

>>175867573
>he doesnt listen to 20 minute drone post-metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We6gj_juPGI

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>tfw too retardeeeed to write one fucking batch file
the fuck is wrong with me

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>>175868530
I don't even know what a batch file is.

>>175868530
It's simple wangblows commandline commands, what's wrong with you indeed? Google impaired?

>>175869558
figured out on my own three errors in my syntax

that was shameful

>>175869521
In reality space is in russian and barcode

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>>175869521
>Radiation hazard
>Just a dead guy

>Playing first Factorio sandbox
>Find comfy spot to live with a shitload of resources around the corner
>Build base and go to scout those huge resource pools
>Can't see any of it for trees
>Can't even walk through the forest it's so dense
>It goes on for as far as the eye can see

Sweet merciful robochrist, tell me there's an automated way to clear forests.

>>175872385
Fire. Fire works pretty well.

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>making the system to beat the iron throne 400k/hour achievement
>holy shit

thats gonna take a while, hope 170 smelters will be enough

>>175872385
there are at least 3 fast ways to do so, for now go ham with da pickaxe

>>175872385
fire, 'nades, shotgun, robutts...
but 'nades are certainly the cheapest and earliest answer to cellulose question

>>175873026
You'll need a little less than 389 crafting speed, so 195 steel furnaces should do.
Mind you, you're looking at nearly three full blue belts' worth of iron.

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So would anyone be interested in a dedicated Factorio server?

Still got a free one with 10 slots.

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>>175873416
current setup
waiting on 100k raw iron for each line

>>175873536
Hit us with it

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>tfw i realise i need ~80 drills to operate 10 labs that research Red+Green+Black tech.

I almost feel like complex recipes + 5x tech cost multiplier was a mistake.

I'm now at 15.5 hours in, only starting to go beyond green and red science and realising how much of a jump in price there is.

I guess i really should stop worrying so much about pollution messing up biter evolution and really go crank up that poduction.

I actually have a number of small mining bases giving me a total of ~30 iron+copper drills, but holy fuck i am starving so hard.

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>>175874383
Alright.
Any interesting mods that came out recently?
Haven't played since last year.

Did they add more vanilla content or is it still just dude send rockets to space lmoa

>>175875448
I think people are still fiddling with 0.15 that came out last week to get too into mods.

>>175875448
Rockets give science packs to research infinite tech, so I doubt they're going to ever add more 'content.'

Newest patch has nuclear reactors and uranium boolits, and they redid science packs.

>>175877437
Their long term plan has them falling for the blaned meme, who knows whether or not it'll actually happen

>>175877691
blaned meme?

>>175877849
Yes, blaneds.
They want multiple planets or some fuggery like that.

>>175877691
I think they wanted to push that post 1.0 'release' possibly for extra money

Is the guy who said he'd sign us to that /vg/ soccer thing around? According to the signup page there's only two days and four spots left.

>>175882271
But how can the ded play foosball?

Also replace Eggman with Ced (goalkeep, captain)

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ded

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>freejam puts out new update to Robocucks
>radars, jammers, and radar recievers removed from the game
>spotting enemys also removed from the game

>all enemies are now automatically spotted as soon as they come into view
>Radars replacement is a wallhack module that shows all enemy units on the map to your team for 7 seconds, and then has a 60sec cooldown

>OH EM GEE, NEW WEAPON ADDED
>its just a smaller chaingun, and since the big one sucks ass, the small one sucks twice as much ass

>fanbase hates new changes
>freejam locks the update thread on their forum so nobody can reply in it, basically trying to silence people
>Freejam dev comes in and says this

>"We’re going to start a new feedback thread on the Windowaker Update next week, which should allow the majority of regular forum users to actually experience the changes in-game and come to their own conclusions on the content. That’s why we locked the announcement thread. No grand conspiracy guys, this is just a better way for us to collate feedback. The update hasn’t even been out a day yet…"

Death of Robocraft when?

>>175887015
>Death of Robocraft when?
When you stop playing and posting about it, cuck

>>175887015
>remove players ability to vent so they can just get mad and leave
genius!

yooo

>>175887015
why do you speak of that which has been left deserted owing to its own obsolescence?
no longer do the freejam entertain the possibility of enlightenment and so we can not have any hint of them improving

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I made a more realistic version of my missile. No longer has a nuclear rocket with 100 grams of 97% enriched uranium running 1 kelvin below meltdown and it now has 300 grams total of warheads instead of 25.

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am i doing this right lads, i finally managed to automate 4 colors but i feel like i should add a loop or something like that

>>175897218
>3 belts
????

>>175897218
loops are for faggots, if your belts aren't full, doing a loop won't magically increase your pots output

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>loops

get on my level.
but produce more iron. there is never enough iron.

>>175898695
>fan of xenos
Hopefully no one will sink to your level.

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>>175900696

it was for xenogears, the vidyagaem.

how do you guys avoid spaghetti? do you plan out the entire factory before building anything or just build a shitty factory (like this one) then scrap it when you have enough resources to move shop and build a proper factory? mine always start out orderly but end up like this when i hit blue/yellow sci.

>>175901609
>>175898695
>start out with bus
>end up with tangled ramen
Do you just not understand how a bus is used, or are you being retarded on purpose?

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>>175901609
Christ, what a mess

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>>175904752
>>175902723

i'm looking around on the map for a good spot to settle the new factory now, i've been just stockpiling materials for a while now. yellow science is not happening in that mess.

also, highest oil yield patch found on a train world resource set map? this is the highest i've encountered thus far.

>>175851558
What's the name of this game?

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well shit nevermind, here's the new holder.

also found a 23 million iron deposit, that will probably be the new base, time to get a few thousand red bullets and clear a path.

>>175905270
Algodoo

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Third stab at making a sub that isn't shit. Still some seabed crashing issues when I set depths bellow 70 and some issues with it firing weapons before it's in range, luckily those don't require alteration to the hull. By using modular weapons, CnC, and engine systems I've almost completely eliminated wasted space and as such this sub is 20-30% smaller than the first one.
Armament:
4 missile modules each housing six 5m radar guided missiles. Total of 24.
2 torpedo modules each housing 4 6m sonar guided torpedoes. Total of 8.
Shields pending while I install and configure them.

Current cost 22900+
Expected cost on completion 23500-24500

>>175906552
Pro-tip:
If you wanna save space it's a good idea to structure your craft around its various systems.

>>175906701
That's pretty much what I did, this is essentially six modules each enclosed in an armor box, wrapped in a shell for hydrodynamics, extra armor, and most importantly, A~E~S~T~H~E~T~I~C.

>>175906913
Ah well, I cba to make my craft aesthetic when I'm trying to jam in tons of derp, dakka and cheese into something small.

I thought kerbal space program had it's own general?? Where is it?

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>>175910150
Feel free to post it here.

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>>175910150
Collapsed into shitposting singularity, banned from /vg/
It doesn't go here

Don't respond, even if you sage.

Report and hide.

>>175910474
Okay anon.

>>175905789
Thanks, anon.

>>175869521
kind of shit tbdesu

>not colorblind-friendly
>vague figures that are easily misinterpreted, like the fucking triangles and boxes
>discards stereotypes with cultural traction just to be cool (could have used the rad trefoil, fork and knife, lightning bolt, two heads for the intercom, and many more)
>everything has a red border-- NORPs won't even press red buttons to get a fucking parking stub, they'll be terrified to go anywhere on your ship

>>175917210
We are ded but we will never die.

>>175869521
There's no "d" in "refrigeration".

>>175919414
There is in the dystopian furture of 2078. Grammar nazis lost grammar WW3.

>>175901609
> how do you guys avoid spaghetti?
Discipline. If you realise you laid something out wrong, tear it up and re-do it.

Leave plenty of space between sections so that you can re-build parts of the factory rather than having to go back to an empty field and start completely from scratch.

I usually end up substantially re-building the factory a few times. The one used for red-only science is very temporary. Mk2 usually lasts until research is done (but that was before 0.15).

Most of it gets torn down to place the roboports, which are on an exact grid; I'll move half the factory rather than put a port one cell off from where it should be.

Leave space beside (and within) the main bus for roboports, large electric poles, and pipes (you may want to pipe sulphuric acid and/or lubricant around; although with 0.15, you can transport barrels with logistic bots, assuming that you don't consider any and all use of logistic bots to be cheating).

>>175918086
>red star
>on murican tank
the fuck?

>>175920597
>a single robot can cart 1000 fluid at once
They're surprisingly efficient at fluid movement.

>>175920794
Looks like a pentagram

>>175905243
steamcommunity.com/app/427520/discussions/0/1327844097108665254/

>>175920875
oh wait, right, it's upside down

Really enjoying factorio but I cant download mods because I'm a poor piratefag. Game is fun though.

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Bobs Inserters simultaneously makes things easier and much more complicated

>>175921307
What do they do?

>>175921665
They allow you to adjust inserters to drop off and pick up in any direction you choose at a distance of up to 3 tiles, such as 90 degrees, diagonal, etc. It's extremely open., There's a gui for defining exactly where you want the inserter to pick up and drop off.

>>175921307
>using cheatmods

>>175924405
It's alternative balance anon

software engineering
https://youtu.be/kPRA0W1kECg
gotta love the merge sort's 'bwap bwap' sound

>>175882271
I'm here, but I think we've got a lot less interest than last year, plus nokits still
Trying to get everyone up and involved during the signup window was way too late basically, I'll probably post every now and again before the next one opens to give us i.e. me a bit more to time to get ready

Algodoo is a pretty cool tool

>>175928936
proper clockworks when

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>>175926718
>bitonic sort

>>175918086
>666
that looks way too much like eGG

>>175928936
Post what you've made

Please I'm so alone here

>>175928006
You don't need kits to sign up, you'll need them by the export deadline on the 25th.
I've also noticed that there's a website linked on the new managers' guide from the signups page that makes kits automatically.

The interest we have now is probably enough, by looking at some of the other signups. Just go for it, you never know if the general could just lose interest altogether for the next time.

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>>175921074
I wouldn't usually pay $20 for a game like that.
But I caved, Downloaded multiple versions as updates came out + mods.

I aim for 1$/hr of gameplay easily put in 100 before buying it.

>>175932560
I-i'm sorry anon I just started playing. I don't have anything worthwhile to share.

>>175932560
You've already seen what I've made.

>>175926718
>call it gnome sort
>sounds like a dog
I don't get it.

>>175932560
Are you in the PNW?

198.27.87.101 server is updated to 0.15.7, and I reset the map. The new one is on marathon mode.
Password: clang

ded

>>175934598
>reset the map
And here we'd just started to convert everything into full on trains.
Smelting (well, some of it), green circuits, red circuits and most of the oil industry had their own separate bases.

>new one is marathon
YOU DINGUS
inb4 no one joins again

>>175937873
pvp serb when?

I don't lurk on /vg/ that much, why do we not mention the mexican scam artists in /egg/?

>>175941509
Because they're dramafag schizophrenic cunts to want to destroy /egg/ for no reason.
You should hate them and everything associated with them with every fiber of your autism.

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We need to put a basic explanation along the lines of "the scam artist lovers posted bestiality porn, raided other generals, and generally shitposted themselves to death so now they aren't allowed to be mentioned anywhere on /vg/ by name" in the OP so we stop getting asked about it.

>>175941676
>>175941712
Well that's a fucking shame considering how good the game is. Guess I'll join the hate train!

>>175933116
>Bussing your wire

We'll still get asked about it since it's all just one catfucker doing it.

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Sasuga, factorio!

>>175943669
>doing the campaign
stop this nonsense

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>>175932939
I took your/Shia's advice and just did it. I'm using a trip for this one post because it's required for certain things, don't kill me

implyingrigged.info/wiki//egg/

We need a logo. Didn't somebody make one with a lego background, pistons and a skelly?

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>>175926718

>>175944415
ded or 2 ago it was, truly an autistic creation

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Finally got the last floor, last playthrough I gave up without tinkering because I couldn't be arsed to make insertion sort in that
this time simillarily, just gave up and went with bubble, god it was painful to watch

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>>175944415
>>175944529
found one, this is first version, with the coat of arms frame, some complained about

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>>175944415
Here is patched version

>>175945250
How much of what egg does involves skulls or pistons?

>>175945590
How fucking new are you that you have to ask that?

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>Newest update

They just broke stuff left and right

>>175945665
Those are ICE pistons not spengo pistons

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>>175945852
So?

>>175945839
How does longer underground belts break anything?

>>175945852
Pistons are pistons, they're just meant to be a symbol of CLANG.
Skeletal astronaut is symbol of spess and the eternal ded

>>175945839
I like.

>>175945905
So is this /o/ now? Internal combustion engine pistons seem like a very poor representation of what goes on here.

>>175945250
That's the one
I think to make it like a real FC logo, the border should probably be solid colours like the main pistonskull.
Also I have an idea for the background, do you still have the lego block image you made it with?

>>175945839
>higher tier belts go longer
Broke? This is finally a reason to use something other than yellow

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>Increased the underground belt length (basic, fast, express) from 5,5,5 to 5,7,9.
>Reverted flamethrower turret liquid consumption change from 0.15.5. Instead of 30/s it will use 3/s.

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>>175946214
You can't spell engoneering without o

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100 of my Tunguskas vs 2.50 cm of spider silk, 30 cm of boron spaced 5 cm, and 1.5 mm of aluminum spaced 1 meter. Each of the missiles has 300 grams worth of warheads.

>>175946218
I didn't make it, I just did the frame

>>175946601
Ah
Well, guess I'll do it myself then.
I'll make a slightly less CLANG background with the team colours, which are red and dark gray based on the default Spengies suit

>>175845650
dammit anon you are making me nostalgic for my giant lazer satelite that can blow a giant clean hole through the ow homebase. cant do that now because of the new weapon parts limit, which it went well over.(60 something separate beam outputs, thing was masive)

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>>175907418
>>175906552
ayy shilling my sub for the umpteenth time.

>>175947942
You know, i used to build my first spaceships shaped like that in FtD (but a bit smaller)

>>175944415
So /egg/ is gonna compete in League 8?

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What have I done wrong with these signals?

>>175947942
Neato, how's the cost and what precisely are the armaments?

>>175937873
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.

>>175949564
Aside from the tracks being bidirectional, I don't see anything wrong.
My guess is that your fuckup is elsewhere down the line.

>>175950118

Yeah you were right I had a stray signal I didn't notice.Thanks !

/egg/, are there any mods to make Space Engineers a little less empty? Say, really good enemy mods or something that adds NPCs? Really just anything to make it a little less dead, it's just me and a friend at the moment. The only real difficulty we've had in survival is building our ships and getting them back to base when they're at full load, but I want to make every space trip a little dangerous.

>>175934598
Trains are broken, fix coming
https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=46467

Looks like 0.15.8 will be out today too.

>>175949564
Looks fine to me. That one signal is red because it represents left to right travel, and there's a train right there. What's the problem?

>>175948818
Looks like it, I'm looking forward to watching it to break up the wait for Spring.

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>>175949828
rc is 93260

2X 24 silo mine bays, with grade 3 explosive charges, that breach the surface before settling

2x 7 silo subsurface to air frag missiles radar guided, used for support and anti air.

and 2 front facing super long high speed torpedoes with massive emp payloads, used for target chasing to eliminate propulsion systems

speed is about 20 average, i probobly should do a propulsion rework, but thats for another day.

>>175941712
I don't remember this page. Is this from SBR or VA?

>>175952002
Scratch that, the babbys start next week.

>0.15.8 just dropped
Are these devs human or on speed?

>>175953115
They're german.
They go to work, program, go home, and have a relaxing evening of programming.

>>175953371
>They're german.

No they're not, you retarded faggot. They are Czech.

>>175953890
well czech this 5

>>175950947
exploration mod's fixed now, give it a try (there may be multiple versions on workshoppa)

>>175953115
slavcode is either very best or the very keen, nothing in between

>>175954317
What's the full name for the mod?

Requesting Factorio 0.15.8 supply drop.

>>175929914
>65 bongs a day
You dumb twat, everyone knows there's 12 bongs in a day and then another 12 in the night.

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>>175954942
?

>>175954029
Literally kill yourself.

>>175954029
You planned that didn't you? Too bad you didn't get the 5.

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>>175929914
Bitonic sort is secretly the fastest. The people who knock on it based on that video don't even HDL or compute shader.

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>>175946218
>Also I have an idea for the background, do you still have the lego block image you made it with?
It was made with pattern stamp tool and photoshop filters/vibrance adjustements

>>175952036
I think it's from VA based off of a reverse image search, but I'm not sure as I've never read JoJo.

>>175954584
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=531659576
no clue if that's the latest release, but looks so, last update was april

>>175944415
Rename our captain/goalkeep to Ced

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>>175956147
Thanks. Also, how possible would it be to build something like this in SE? I've been hankering for it ever since I started reading Knights of Sidonia for space ship inspiration.

>>175956189
All players were polled (especially Eggman, he was very popular) but we didn't have Ced in there at the time.
I'll add him to the very long player list and we can vote who gets kicked out of the current team after the season's over

>>175956436
moving, walking mech, tall, with backpenis?
100% doable, without thrusters, but I am not sure about gyros, robertmxd (bruce leedleleedleleedlelee on steam) could tell you more, but he ain't /egg/, he leddit

>>175956631
Well as long as Eggman isn't on /r9k/ roster I suppose

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>tfw Factorio is FUCKED

I sure hope they fix trains soon otherwise my weekend is ruined

>>175956826
Yeah I checked a while back after someone alerted me, it seems they dropped him entirely a while ago. If hard pressed we could just rename him /egg/man.

>>175956928
>tfw Factorio is FUCKED
please explain

>>175957098
trens broke

>>175957098
https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=46467
> Inserters will no longer take fuel from trains
> inserters won't fuel trains either

>>175956928
It's already fixed, you mouth breathing mongoloid. Learn to read.

>>175957283
>>175957293

Yeah but now they've broken it in another way.

If you try to get into a tren, the game crashes, multiple people have reported it in the forum and it's Friday night so I bet all the devs are out partying at the club and won't be able to fix it until Monday

>>175957758
>If you try to get into a tren
So dont get into tren?
You do have 4 robolegs on, right?
Right?

>>175957758
>it's Friday night so I bet all the devs are out partying at the club and won't be able to fix it until Monday

I bet you have down syndrome, you fucking retard.

Devs are working on a a hotfix for vehicle crashes:

ETA of 0.15.9 = 90 minutes

>>175954942
Scratch that. Preemptively requesting Factorio 0.15.9 supply drop. Thanks.

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Somebody on the forums encountered a chode clang where it added gigameters of cadmium coating to their radiator.

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>>175946952
>red and dark gray based on the default Spengies suit
Recoloring it is easy enough, but you're welcome to waste your time on a less autistic and less crap FC logo

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Will there ever be a moment when I'm not retarded?
I don't have hardly any programming knowledge, this seems like assembly to me.
I'm awful at it but luckily I can play solitaire.

>>175957758
they released a patch on saturday next week, they know they'll probably have to work overtime right after a new version comes out.

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>>175957838

>4 robolegs

Smalltime

Also, it seems that the car is fucked as well.

>>175958674
>Will there ever be a moment when I'm not retarded?

No, that's the way you were born and that's the way you'll stay.

>>175959101
fuck

>>175958503
Something like that, yeah
I'm currently cutting the middle part out of the background, then I'll make a more simple lego background that doesn't hurt my eyes, then a simple border (with the same shape as the current one)
And the name, which is pretty much mandatory.

>>175958818
Whoa, did they make the fusion reactor and exoskeleton bigger?

Also, I don''t like that reactor icon.

>>175958818
I seriously question whether or not you have enough power in there to run all those exoskeletons.

>>175959295

No, they are still the same size.

>>175958674
>this seems like assembly to me
correct
>I'm awful at it
hooman resource machine, check it out, quick and simple

>>175959746
thanks anon, I may be retarded today but someday I'll be less retarded and I'll return to Shenzhen. I feel like I'm closer to completing this objective now that I'm using jmp and labels but also creating something more complicated than it needs to be.

>>175959892
labels reduce autism, if you get lost just start talking to yourself and pointing/waving at screen

>>175959590
that's what all the batteries are for, you can see them drain when you run for long enough

>>175960093
why regular batteries though?

>>175960276
that wasn't my picture, but I normally have 1 fusion reactor, 7 legs and 2-4 MK2 Batteries, so I know it typically works out

The pistons and astronaut are too fucking dark, lads.

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My railguns are so accurate that they all pass through the same hole from 70 km away.

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>>175961468
Shit that's a bad pic didn't check it before posting.

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>>175961069
no! no more lens flares!

>>175961069
It's as dark as our souls withered by the countless ded games and broken dreams.

>>175961668
>>175962273
Honestly, look at the insignias of the other generals' VGL teams and then at that shitty mess. Look, it doesn't even have /egg/ or /egg/ F.C. on it anywhere.

>>175963254
we don't need fancy names, spessskull depicts us and us alone
why the fuck do you care/compare to others? dark spess is dark after all

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>>175963370
I wish I had the artism skills to depict the true pale face of /egg/

>>175963828
>are you seein this shit?
>what in the I say what in the fuck is this?

who else /too stupid/ for these games but play anyway?

>>175964119
everyone is too stupid
you just get less stupid over time by doing it
nobody is born a genius
even geniuses have to learn albeit at a different pace and to a different extent than other people will in their lifetime.

>>175964119
I feel stupid, always making dumb mistakes. Always taking too long to decide what to do next. Then I play the public servers and see how other people play. Then I get triggered since so many people do things much less intelligent than me.

Doesn't even make me feel better thinking there's worse people out there than me.

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>>175964119
>he thinks this is a game

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so when are they gonna implement the new factorio update and release it to stable?

>>175959746
Already enjoying HRM, definitely far easier than Shenzhen. Finding myself replaying each floor until I complete the challenges. Thanks for the recommendation anon.

>>175964119
it's just cyber legos how are you too stupid for legos

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Made a chobham nuke, still need to test it though. Yes the nose is flat on purpose

>>175964232
>obody is born a genius
>even geniuses have to learn albeit at a different pace
quite a contradiction, but I'll let it slide, let's just say "nobody's a genius, even prodigies have to learn"

>>175965515
human creativity and stupidity know no bounds anon, as scary as it may sound deep down you know that it's the truth

>>175964990
yea, but be warned, last cutscene is such a disappointment.
I have returned to it recently, but with save wiped I can't be asked to do all challenges, just skipper to the top, honestly the biggest problem with this game is how short it is and that jump instructions can't just merge at the endpoints

>>175967759
there you go, I'm no genius so I think in retard terms. I think I meant, nobody is born with the knowledge they learn.

>>175967919
no problem anon, i got ya

>>175964837
When it's stable, retard.

>>175964837
We all want to play with the new factorio toys, friend. The devs haven't let us down yet, so just wait until the holiday weekend is over for the june hotfix.

>>175968537
fucks the matter with you did your mommy eat your tendies??.

i thought they gave a date but i couldn't find it

The Factorio 0.15 alpha is dank, boys. Biters are much more vicious as well. Belting out stone and coal is also a good bit of fun.

Just did my first train, ferrying iron from like a 230k patch overlapped by a 300k coal patch (fuel in situ as I call it!). Damn it's satisfying to watch a 4-to-4 dribble it out as the train comes in. My unloading setup is basically six fast inserters lined up on a stretch of yellow belt, times three, fed into said 4-to-4; so it's saturating at most half a belt. Gotta read up more on this stuff.

Anyway. Thank you based Kovarex.

>>175969915
Go drink some bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you shit brained fuck stain.

>>175969915
They don't give dates for anything, shit for brains. Gas yourself.

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>>175970132
>>175970349

so mommy did eat your tendies then

>>175965607
You mean an NEFP (nuclear explosively formed penetrator) or is it something else?

>>175970132
how to spot a physician, 101, pitiful creatures, aren't they
>>175970349
this specimen, despite lack of self-esteem and it's deep state of fear (which it tries to replace with anger) at least gave some information, not a physician, although isn't as far as it would like

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>>175973542

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Who needs to drag big electric poles along with every railway, when you can just export steam.

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>going for iron throne 3
>400k/hour
>make the perfect smeltry
>test the shitter multiple times
>reload, make changes
>finally enough electricity
>even add speed modules
>1 hour almost passes by running
>notice somethings wrong
>i fucked up the calculations
>didnt have 400k raw ore, but only about 380
end my miserable life

>>175975296
>stock up on material for a production achievement
It's just three full blue belts worth of iron.
What's the big deal?

>>175975119
did they not fix this yet? i'm pretty sure it's just a mistake they didn't mean to allow the transport of steam

>>175975617
"full blue belts"
what

>>175975752
What what?
Are you a physician or something?
What do you think "three full blue belts" could possibly stand for?

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>>175975642

I don't know, engines where you just filled a tank up with steam and superheated water which it then used as a kind of battery did exist. The idea of transporting steam as an energy source is not a far stretch from that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireless_locomotive

>>175975892
i have no fucking idea

>0.15.9 already out 97 minutes from 0.15.8
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>175975642
If it was a mistake then why would storage tanks and pipes have custom sprites for when steam is in them?

>>175977084
Three express belts, the blue ones, at maximum throughput.
For fuck's sake anon are you dense

> Factorio patches back to back
In the same thread, even. Get those servers back up I have grenade blueprints to use!

>Start factorio game
>Only two oil patches, that can hold 1 and 2 pump jacks respectively

As I go further out oil becomes more plentiful right?

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>>175977132
>it's Friday night so I bet all the devs are out partying

>>175977134
you mean the same sprite that is used for showing steam everywhere else?

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>>175978286
No, I'm not talking about that one.

>>175977507
The devs stole a bit of RSO so resources scale up as you move away from spawn. I think oil decays down to 1/5 of its starting rate so you'll suffer but never completely run out.

>>175978445
I just wanted to know if it would be worth it to keep expanding out. This is going to be painful though, such piss poor oil production means shit for plastic and flamethrower fuel.

>>175978431
it's not a separate sprite, it's a semi-transparent that just gets colour from average (or main) of the sprite, devs are competent so it's probably all in code, so noone has to deal with it manually
>>175977084
aren't you ashamed sometimes anon? come on, that's really basic

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>>175978431
this one

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>>175979094
My pic was the one I was talking about. Yours is the one I was NOT talking about.

>>175978968
>it's not a separate sprite, it's a semi-transparent that just gets colour from average (or main) of the sprite
Except it's not. It even fills from top to bottom exclusively for steam.

Of course you can't see it but it also animates like steam.

>>175979614
>>175979094
You could put steam into tanks for ages.
I'm guessing being able to train it was most likely because they used the same code from the storage tank in the fluid wagon.

>>175979856
Steam didn't exist befor 15 you physician

>>175979614
didn't bottle steam, if it does, then fuck yea it's on purpose

>>175979931
Steam engines ran on magic then, got it.
>>175979938
Nope can't bottle steam.

>>175980048
Steam as a separate fluid with separate graphics didn't exist before .15 dumbass, it was just water with a temperature value.

>>175980156
Also to add on to this, has anyone tried shoving any other liquids into a .15 boiler, I used to use them as fluid bins, but I'm not sure if they've done away with every fluid having a specific heat and energy storage capacity with this niggery.

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Did anyone say regicide?

>>175977021
did not know about this. Still this kind of system is for energy being used slowly, but transporting and storing STEAM as a form of energy seems so wacky to me

>>175981152
desu electricity is a dumb way to store energy as well, if you look from certain perspective, only kinetic discs have sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage
>>175980048
you have no idea what you're talking about, do you? do you even play fagtorio?

>>175981590
> From my point of view, batteries are evil
t. Beyblade

>>175981696
not mine, just talking that if canned steam is "ineffective" for longer storage or higher eneriges, same can be said 'bout electricity, just on a different scale

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>>175980563

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhy4Z_32kQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmVOV7xvl58
>it's possible we're living in a boltzmann brain that though of a simulation of the big bang that gave rise to a universe where beings created a simulation of reality

>>175981590
i was reading about how when there's too much energy in a hydroelectric power station they use it to pump water uphill,

Electricity doesn't break the suspension of disbelief for me in factorio even though i'm killing nests of ugly fucking bugs with humanoid faces

>>175951015

update serb when? .15.9 fixed the nasty crash bug, we can tren again.

>>175982282
Update now. On 0.15.9

>>175982694
What is serb info, I'm a masochist that wants people to insult my spaghetti

>>175983101
198.27.87.101
password: clang

>>175975119
Ok, so besides the cool factor, lets look at this from a resource perspective. (in not marathon mode at least
Big poles cost 5 steel(25 iron) and 5 copper, for an ore value of 30
Steam turbines cost 120 iron, plus 50 copper, plus a Storage tank of 20 iron and 5 steel, and a fluid wagon of 88 iron, 31 steel for a total ore value of 458, so the process would need to save you putting down 15.266 Big poles in order to be more or less worth it. Which actually isn't much and seems like it'd be worth it easy enough, but also consider the space between two Big Poles, you need to fill with 15 rails(worth 2.75 ore each or 41.25 for the whole distance)

You can also run it on Steam Engines instead of Turbines: lower upfront cost(only 30 iron compared to 120+50 copper) and you don't need nuclear power, but each one can only run about 10 miners(not including inserters, my tests show a max draw to be about 100kw per wagon trying to be loaded), compared to 64 miners for a steam turbine.

One last thing to consider is a single storage tank holds 25k steam, Turbines consume 60/s and Engines 30/s. So a full tank of Steam would run a Turbine for just under 7 minuets, or a single Engine for just under 14 minuets. Considering I've seen most people set their trains up to always leave a station after 30-60 seconds, I doubt this would be a problem to many. But its worth considering.

Any other thoughts on this?

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I'm having so much fun in 0.15

40 hours in and I still haven't built a rocket silo, while I did it in about 24 hours the first time I played the game. There's a lot to do this time around.

>>175982190
and steam does? get your shit together
>>175983210
quick reminder that engine can handle only up to 160 or 180 deg. any steam over that temperature is underutilized

>>175983210
You're not taking into account the fact that I'm mainly using the fluid wagon to bring sulphuric acid to this mine. Since this specific train makes roundtrips to my nuclear plant to unload the uranium, there will always be some surplus steam ready for pickup. I'm killing two birds with one stone.

>>175983762
>>175983210
both of you are mad, wooden electric poles are the only way to go

>>175983581
Well yeah, steam does break the suspension of disbelief, you cannot store hot 500c steam in a tank and expect it to sit there for ever, accumulators on the other hand can store electricity for prolonged periods of time, Steam and electrons are not the same thing, steam will always lose heat there is no such thing as a perfectly isolated container that does not lose heat/ energy, same goes for accumulators, but for steam it takes a couple of hours to run out, for accumulators it could take years to discharge.

Sorry man steam in a tank just doesn't work for me, it's ok if they put it in the game i'm fine with it, but the use it's just silly