/fhg/ - For Honor General

First for Warden is a crutch character

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>>175778452
Find a discounted edition for Brazillian Reais and I'll get your gay ass Season Pass

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>It's a balanced and enjoyable Dom match ends but nobody reups episode

5th for warden is officially more annoying than pre nerf Pk

Are you all ready for centurion to be shit and shinobi to be the new warlord with a bloated as fuck kit?

>>175778809
That implies PKs "nerfs" are even noticeable.

Why can pk(an assassin) get a damage reduction feat?

>>175778812

dlc Character are hardly ever bad, Im gonna bet both or insanely good

>>175779216
If it's anything like siege one will be insanely OP and the other will be utter dog shit.

>>175778812
If I had to bet, Centurion is gonna be the new Warlord and Shinobi is gonna be a hellish amalgamation of Orochi, PK and RANGED GUARDBREAKS

>>175779195
Same reason warlord, a tank, has the fastest dodge recovery. Becuase fuck you.

>>175779280
>pre-nerf blackbeard
lets hope they don't do something similar

>>175778812
Reverse is probably going to be true. Remember this moment. Centi will be disgusting and shinobi will be a less annoying and more easily killed PK.

>>175779090
Somewhat noticable on console, but it's not as harsh as they made it seem. Meanwhile Warden gets a literal buff, and the community continues to suffer. It's more that Warden SB spamming is the new PK light spam imo in a dofferent form.

>>175779405
What makes you think centurion will be like warlord? The leaks didn't say anything about a head butt, hyper armour, all guard, superior guard, crushing counter, insane gb throw distance, or heat seeking running attack.

>>175779437
Jesus Christ have mercy no.

>>175779437
You know they will do that, anon, it's only a matter of time

>>175779737
I meant that as in he'd probably have a pretty strong kit, and be BS because of that

>>175779529
Centurions leaks looked pretty eh, his only trick seems to be the stun off of a heavy. Meanwhile the shinobi is describe such as being a "high skill" character with a large kit.

I just really hope shinobi is shit, the game is going to be nothing but faggot ninjas running around for awhile, at least if he's shit it'll be more bearable.

The leaks made centurion sound a bit like a PK/raider hybrid. You'll want to try and sneak in some raw heavies to get the stun then go into your light chains.

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>>175777924

>Try out Valk in duel
>Against high rep Warden (obviously, what else)
>Plays passive as fuck (obviously, what else)
>Lose round one, decide to play passive af in next round too
>Win
>"Can you stop running away"
>"lmao, ok"
>Sweepmeme him to death for two rounds without any successful attacks from his side at all
>Leaves

Seriously though some moves that lead to sweep make no sense at all, I only know them because I got memed by it in 4v4 so often. He deserved all of it though.

Do the movesset leaks have any credibility?
We don't even know if it's the same guy that posted the fighter pics, do we?

>>175778665
I almost never rematch because some assblasted faggot is always going to switch to a rep 10 Warlord with all passive feats and annoy the living shit out of me

Smug axe again? Running out of ideas

>>175779594
what buff?

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what did he mean by this

>>175780573
It was a bad fight, fag.

>>175780573
He said that the fight was bad, you fag

>>175780573
He did not enjoy your battle, homosexual.

>>175780573
It's like he's reprimanding a dog, are you using the Zerk wolf ornament?

>>175780573
I hope you're not one of those faggots that always type "glhf" at the start and "Good Fight!" after every fight. Fag

>>175780573
Was a poor scrap, gay boy.

>>175780573
The scuffle was below average, gayboy

>>175780562
the "nerf" makes his SB come out faster. It's essentially a buff. they changed aomething else about it but honestly it's worse than before

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Reminder for a light at the end of the tunnel

>>175780573
you are insufficient at combat, gaylord palm.

>>175780573
The tustle wasn't worth his time, poo pumper.

>>175781092
this game might die, but goddamn it if I won't fist someone to death with that centurion first

>>175778214

fpbp

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How do people just quit out seamlessly mid-fight anyway? Alt+F4? I thought that always caused the re-synchronizing shit.

>>175778214
>tfw was good with Warden
>everyone said I was getting carried by an easier character
>learn Raider instead and have an even easier time killing people

Warden's only a crutch if you let yourself get carried by the broken parts of his kit.

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warden gets blown the fuck out by a stronq blaq conq who dont need no combos or safe moves

If I bought the base game on Steam, I can get a generic uplay season pass for a key site without any issues, right? Or do I need to get the pass from steam as well?

>>175781468
You don't look very black.

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>>175781364
It depends if the quitter is the lobby "host".
The game designates one player to handle certain communications/synchronizations between all players, even though all machines communicate with each other directly as well.

>>175781673
look at his arms

>>175780573
The rumble wasnt no good, cock gobbler.

Why are we Kniggas fucking everyone up now?

>>175782028
All the shitters went to join the Kangz.

>>175782028
Bunch off people left to join kangs, now our good boy points are worth more.

>>175781364
they could legitimately be getting dropped too

>>175782028
>knights are monotheistic
>fail
>call for help from their polytheistic ancestors
This season will decide who is stronger, the Christian god or the Roman pantheon.

So, other than Warlord, what other characters have crazy BS feats?

>Centurion has a cape

Not even massively into Roman history, but the thought of striding into a hoard of weebs and savages in bronze armour with a sexy red cape, running them through and throwing hay makers gets me feeling sexual.

>>175782325
>Rome converted to Christianity

Looks like you have a lot of catching up to do Maximus.

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>>175782325
Romans were Christian though

How the fuck do I play Raider?

I wanna main him solely for Emote spam, but he doesn't even get anything off of a guard break.

>every LB just wait until I atack so he can block and start the 50/50
>does nothing else
That's worse than Warden, at least you can atack him.

>>175782561
Assaulting the law is illegal.
Just let the timer run out and leave him in peace.

>>175782530
He gets a zone attack for 28 damage.

>>175782530
You get zone on gb, and heavy off of wall splat. Just throw side heavies and soft fient them into your stunning tap half of the time, when you loose make sure your opponent knows you only lost becuase you're raider. When you win emote spam and gloat, make sure they know your victory is a very big deal to you. Be sure to cry in the forums that raider is too weak to function between matches. You'll be a pro in no time.

>>175782561

It's not even a 50/50, depending on your class it can be a20/20/20/20/20 or a 25/25/25/25 that generally goes in your favor.

If people knew their classes they'd realize this.

>>175782365

orochi's combo of sharpen blade and fear itself is absolutely ridiculous, 2 top lights can take more than half someone hp regardless of gear

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>>175782365
Assassins stacking their steroids so they kill you in 2 hits.

>>175782990

That combo on PK can one shot you with a single GB.

>>175782365
PK's Health buff and martyrdom

>>175779987
I think the ninja will be weak. Raw GBs are almost always countered even in gank they hardly ever land against someone worth a shit. I figure the punish for getting a ranged GB countered will be hard. Downed and pulled to them rather than them pulled to you. Mix that with stupid low assassin HP but no bullshit PK damage reduction feat makes me think Shinos are gonna get pissed on. They might be annoying in a gank with the GB for some people, but not really any worse than any other grab or shove or bash in a gank if you think about it.

Centi on the other hand is coming out before they are addressing the defensive meta. That means anyone who can down people and had an unblockable bash is automatically a contender for the higher tiers depending on how hard/easy it is to punish. My guess is that it will be a little too easy to abuse and we are going to see a lot of Centurions just hammering people.

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>Vanguard: Earn more Renown in outnumbered fights, by controlling objectives, and by killing enemy soldiers to unlock your feats in a match.
Does "outnumbered fights" mean your team ganging up, being ganged up, or both? Is controlling objectives mean taking it away from the enemy team or just sitting on a point?

>Heavy: Earn more Renown by assisting or saving Heroes, and defending objectives to unlock your feats in a match.
Does assisting mean ganging up with a teammate? Is defending an objective just sitting on it or do you have to kill an enemy that's in the middle of contesting?

>Assassin: Earn more Renown in 1v1 fights, by killing enemy Heroes, and getting killing streaks to unlock feats in a match.
Do you earn less renown in any instance of ganging up? How does the streak work, exponentially?

>Hybrid: Renown is balanced across activities.
Does this imply that a hybrid is always at a feat-gaining disadvantage or that other classes have a penalty when they do something that isn't in their role?

>>175783172
Centurions ground throw is only off of a deflect according to the leaks, doesn't seem that crazy to me.

>>175783286
Being ganged up. Taking it away.

It's vague, there's a "Savior" bonus you get for unspecified conditions, possibly killing an enemy engaged with an ally at critical health? Just sitting on it, this is the easiest one to test yourself.

Yes. Not sure.

Not sure.

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>>175782518
>>175782520
Marian Reforms: 107BC
Rome becomes increasingly Christian: after 300AD
About 400 years of catching up.

Gonna go ahead and bet the Centurion is poly.
Especially since the devs hate vultards.

FUCKING GOD DAMN RAID BOSS WARLORD. THAT BULLSHIT NIGGER WITH FEATS AND GEAR IS LIKE FUCKING HACKS BUILT INTO THE GAME.

>>175783582
>Cancucks get triggered by the call to purge non whites in Europe

Hardly a surprise.

>>175783582
>wearing a period cavalry helm

Use the almonds Ahmed.

>>175783612
*pulls sword back*
*vaguely grunts as the only hint that it's going to be a heavy instead of a light*

I'm sharing accounts with my friend on Xbone. If I buy the season pass off of g2a will he get it also? We basically split everything

>>175784119
Should do.

>>175783383
Deflects are easier than you think for one, but also the second, and more credible leak, suggests the downing move is a back GB so similar to how demon embrace is triggered.

>>175783383

Centurion is gonna be my man if he has badass defelcts, its the only reason I like playing oro so much

>pull off deflect in gank on nobushi
>she kicks me out of it

Fug

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>it's another episode of i haven't finished a match today without the opponent rqing

>>175783865
*late period

>Berserkers that do nothing but obnoxious side lights because everything else is unsafe
Idk
Just play something else at that point, you lose anyway and if you want to be annoying there are better characters even for that, like Valk.

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>>175784308
*very late period

>>175784197
One in the OP says it's back+ gb off of a defect. If you can throw them down for a free heavy from neutral that will indeed be pretty good.

So the next dev stream is tomorrow correct? Hopefully we get some gameplay for the new characters.

>>175782518
>Rome converts to Christianity
>never attains the size and might of pre-Christian Rome
Other cultures had this happen too, Christianity attracts peoples in decline.
All you have to do is accept Jesus and you get to go to heaven when you die.
You don't have to win wars, offer sacrifice, make pilgrimages, or any of that shit, just say "ok" and you get to go to paradise.
It's a consolation prize religion for the historically unsuccessful, and it comforts the old and dying.

Reminder that LB's shove is not a 50/50 at all and he's still easy game.

>>175785131
But the conversion to Christianity let the empire survive for far longer, it unified the conflicted people of Rome. But it's clear from the rest of your post your not really one for history.

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>>175785131

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>>175785151
Reminder LBs are big bullies.

>>175781049
got any fact to back that up ?
(legit curious tho)

>>175785131
I've read some stupid shit in my time.

>>175785414

It's literally in the patch notes. Ubiflaccid managed to make him even more cancerous.

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reminder, anyone crying for warden nerfs after he was fixed is a literal shitter

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>>175784248
Sometimes I wonder how many RQs are legit and how many Ubi perpetrates themselves.

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>>175785943
i have never been dced from a duel match, i guarantee 99% of them are rq

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Have any other Xboners run into people from the XGN clan? I played World of Tanks, Destiny, and a variety of other games, and everyone with XGN in front of their names is always liquid shit at them.

>>175781865

her arms

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>>175786524
delete this and try again

"We've got another barn burner of a show cooked up for you folks this week as we head in to Season 2: Shadow & Might!
You'll be getting a look at the new maps, get to see more of our new heroes, the Centurion and the Shinobi, and get the inside scoop on what our Online Game Director Damien Kieken and his team have done with their overhaul to the Gear Stats system for S2.
Don't miss it!"

Wonder if that means new gameplay, but even if not the maps will likely be cool. Looks like a Knight forge, hopefully with pits of molten metal to throw people in. For that Samurai garden looking tease I can only hope there are some paper panels to throw people through. No damage but for effect.

>>175783582
>the devs hate vultards.
>templar crosses and other crusader symbols and imagery everywhere

pick one

>>175786869
First webm sorry

>>175786869
Not to rag on your webm, but why play the ledge game when you had a catapult?

Best counter to Warden in 1v1? Otherwise I will leave

>>175788001
The only winning move is not to play

How about that Dark Tower trailer tho?

>>175786930

hope it stuns them, would be cool

>>175788001
Play Raider.

>>175788039
>Roland is now a nigger

0/10.

>>175788001

shugoki

>>175788172
Honestly, it's not even the fact that he's black that puts me off, it's just how shitty he looks in general. Shit coat shit clothes shit everything.

And the fact that he's black is outputting, not gonna lie.

>>175788301
>Shit coat shit clothes
Shitskin

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>play kensei in elimination
>there is a very annoying and turtling zerker in the enemy team
>decisive round, he spawns in front of me
>unzip unblockable feat, see fear in his eyes
>he keeps dashing backwards, throws an axe at me
>heal with another feat, back to full hp
>nowhere left for him to dash, he throws his last axe and then proceeds to getting bitchslapped to death with feint->light, feint->light
Boy did it feel good to outcheese this fucker. Also subscribe to my blog.

>>175788301
Yeah, I've seen people that would look more the part at ducking fancy dress parties. But they won't be getting my sheckles for making him a coon.

>>175788542
I'd like to unsub

>tfw a kensei gets this feat vs you
>he now becomes predictable as fuck and you can parry all his shit

Wonder what centurions unique feat will be.

>>175789001
>pulls out scutum
>gets constant allblock for the duration of it
>moveset changes slightly so he's more like a heavy and less like an assassin

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>>175783924

>>175788172
>>175788301
Personally i think he's going to kill that role. I mean the character was modeled after Clint Eastwood, who else could play him? The trailer looked really good. The books were fantastic, i just hope they don't sell it short.

>People are actually not going to see this movie just because of the color of his skin
>Just enjoy the movie

>>175785880
>fixed
The nerf was a buff because the downsides changed almost nothing, meanwhile the shoulder was sped the fuck up

>>175779280
this.

>>175789450
>paying for propaganda

No thank you, once he kills the role he can kill him self.

Also Vigo Mortisen would have been perfect.

>>175789550
downsides mean if you guess right warden gets punished every time

to compensate for the increased recoveries they increased the speed to not make the skill useless

>>175789450
Someone with the correct race would have been a good start.

>Not only is Roland African
>But the entire line
>King Arthur is now a nigger in the film version

No thank you.

>>175789450
>implying i'm not going to see it because of the color of his skin

dude i mainly think the wardrobe department dropped the fucking ball. the fact that he's blaq is super minor to me. the fact that he looks like a halloween dollar store cowboy is a much bigger holdup.

also
>no eddie in the trailer

>at the skill ceiling with all the characters I like
>have them all /fa/ed up how I want
what do I do now /fhg/

>>175789001
Would be cool if he had a "I'm calling you out" fight to the death challenge. You can online use it if the target is in range, and if they leave it's range after you issue the challenge they start dying of shame. Would be a nice way to fuck over all of the ninja faggots that will flood the game.

>>175789673
>>175789960
>>175790140
> Hurr Durr he's a nigger
I was a lot less mad when I looked this up and saw that it wasn't a film adaptation of Song of Roland.

>>175790140
Eddie and Suz are confirmed not in the film. Sorry I had to be the one to break it to you. Guess that's one way of getting around him being an 80 IQ ape though huh :^)

>>175790248
Like legion commander in dota?

>>175788039
>Jake has to have a conversation to convince Roland not to give up on the Tower
>Implying Roland would fucking ever have a crisis of motivation

It's gonna suck dick.

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I have seen the darkest deaths of power in For Honor

Sharpen Blade + Fear Itself + Revenge

There is no life in the void, only death

webm incoming

>>175790959
>webm incoming

nigga we've been playing this game for 2 fuckin months we already know

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>>175790959

yes that is a rep 5 108 geared warlord destruction machine, dead in 2 lights

>>175790140
I'm excited when they bring Eddie in, fucking loved him. I like the clothing,but it's cool to have different opinions. They want to make 3 more movies, so they'll probably end up coming. Maybe they'll show up at the end, cause they want to do the T.V series about book 4, so maybe that will be the filler in between movies 1 & 2.
>>175790959
Hopefully what happens in the first book, happens.
>"Go then, there are other worlds than these"

>>175790572
>>175791281
oops, second part was meant for you, my man.

>>175791281
>he thinks there will more after the first film bombs

This is your first wild Sony ride I see, buckle up you're in for some real shit.

>>175791191
>Sharpen blades
>Fear itself
>Revenge
>Every other attack is a flicker
Is this a webm showing absolute cancer?

are AI matches still borke

Why don't they have zone attacks require smaller ranges for error so there's no flicker?

>>175791281
It looks like a fucking weird hodgepodge of choice moments from all the books. Makes me worry about how it'll hold up as a series if they're stealing star moments from the rest of it.

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be awful. It might be an alright movie, but it's not going to be a good adaptation of Dark Tower in any way.

>>175791817
A man can hope my friend.

>At least the visual effects look fantastic.

>>175791896

yes, cancer is fun

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>>175780573
your martial prowess has come up short, queer

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>dominion against a team that actually plays like a team

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>>175793091
>Skirmish against a team that strictly travels together
>Meanwhile your teammates run off alone to try stacking buffs

>>175793605
>Playing vs anyone that just blocks all day, staring at you all day doing nothing at all

Its so dull, i know people love to play to win etc but jesus christ how is anyone capable of enjoying playing like this.

>>175779280
>Buck and Frost
Both were pretty fucking good.
>Blackbeard and Valkyrie
Both of them had practically gamebreaking abilities.
>Capitao and Caveira
Capitao was pretty ridiculous at first, and Caveira has been consistently decent.
>Hibana and Echo
Hibana made it possible to have a three speed with good guns when you only had to worry about hatches.
>Jackal and Mira
Jackal was fucking broken because of his C7 in the first month, and Mira has some insane spots.

Can you still not get rewards if you turn off matchmaking vs AI?

>getting ganked
>they have lawbringer or shugoki

welp gg

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>>175780573
it seems our confrontation has turned out to be less than favorable, homosexual

I've been disconnected from 5 matches in a row, is my net shit right now, or is Ubi fucking up for you people too?

>>175794503
No, but until it's fixed you can approximate it by doing PvAI with matchmaking on. I find games pretty quickly on PC, and the lobby stays up until everyone (including you) leaves.

>>175795413
When the fuck is this shit gonna be fixed? Takes forever for me to find a goddamn team in Player VS AI

> it's a your team is shit for all but one dude and he wins every round for your episode

>>175779405
Theres no way a character like shinobi is going to have pk tier lights
At best it would be valk tier
Or warden tier.

>>175781230
>Want to buy (((season pass))) but im legitimately afraid this game will die before the second batch of heroes.

>>175794260
Lol no Buck when he released was useless

so rep 3 is when you want to be opening your crates, right?

>>175796989

yep

> close-ish fight
> he's down to one bar
> get halfway through a light combo, see my last light hit him for a second so I unlock, going to go help buddies 'cause 4v4
> turns out he blocked it on his screen and then he punishes with a heavy and kills me instead
ubi pls

>>175796989
Unless you want to wait for the next season, as they're raising the max gear level.

If I had to guess, the next best rep to pop boxes is gonna be rep 5

>>175796849
do it, goy
t. season pass owner who needs people to play with

Exactly what are the oaths of a warden?

>>175796989
Personally, I would wait until the next update/season, since the gear rework might change things completely.

>>175796941
Buck on release was the best version of the character, and many players used him in the 2nd and 3rd seasons of the Pro League. It's just that his DMR was trash then and nobody could handle the C8's recoil.

>>175797574
1. Fuck Bitches
2. Cancel Bashes

>>175786869
>>xxbridgelord420xx

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>gitting gud at raider
feels L E G E N D A R Y man

>>175798164
It's probably the easiest character in the game lmao

>>175798268
Why would you lie like that?

>>175798268
T. light parried assasain.

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As a conq, what's the point of shield bashing after landing a heavy attack if every class can side dodge it?

>>175798268
t. never played raider

>>175798514
Because if they're near a wall or a corner the dash can fuck up and they get splat'd, leading to another heavy and another bash.

> pretty close match, last round
> everybody else on your team is dead, enemy team only has a couple bots left
> butthole clenches as I know I must defeat the gank or be dishonorabru for being killed by bots
like and subscribe

Remember that the dev stream is on at 4PM GMT on the 4th, they are showing off new maps, characters, and the gear rework.

>>175798365
The fact that he is shit doesn't make him hard to play. It's hard to win tho but that's because he is shit.
>>175798483
>>175798634
You fagots sound like LB mains before patch.
"look how my character takes so much skill"

>>175798514
You'd be surprised how often people fuck it up. It's kind of finicky to dodge for weird unclear reasons.

>>175798634
I main raider, he's probably the easiest character to pick up one you learn his side heavy/stunning tap soft fient. That alone will get you far. To take him against shit hot players you need to be able toparry lights, but other than that there's nothing to crazy going on. Unless you want to be a cheating faggot and use his unlock """"""tech"""""".

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>>175799085
>The fact that he is shit doesn't make him hard to play
>It's hard to win tho
>Easy to play
>Hard to win

>>175799368
>Easy to play
>Hard to win
That's it.

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>>175799774
Are you retarded

>>175799928
No.

>>175799928
What he means is that he's incredibly simple to play. Which is technically correct, seeing as how he doesn't have any mix-ups, or complicated shit, whatsoever.

Misleading as fuck though to just simply say he's easy to play, or an easy character, as most people would interpret that as easy to win with.

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>>175800013

>>175799368
What in your opinion makes raider hard to play?

>>175800286
you need to be good at parrying lights, which is hard as a character that switches guards as slow as raider

>>175799928
Raider is easy to play though, like orochi, your game plan is very simple. But that's also why he's not the strongest of picks, becuase it's also easy to wise up to what he's trying to do. How is this escaping you?

>>175800286
All your attacks are parrybait. It is impossible to have any sort of offense
You have to be super careful with what you use after a GB or Parry because it's super variable unlike any other character. Pretty much every other character consistently gets a side heavy off of a GB, and a top off of a light parry or wallbang. Raider sometimes gets a zone off a GB, sometimes can get a side heavy off a wallbang, and sometimes gets a top heavy off of light parries and a side heavy on others. There is no consistency.
Guard stance delay.

>Been wasteful as fuck with my steel since release, almost always broke
>Started saving not even a week ago and already almost have enough for centurion
>People bought the meme pass
lmao

>>175800778
Everyone needs to get good at parrying lights for their max punish, and all characters with large weapons have the same guard swap issue after fient. I asked you what makes raider hard to play.

>>175800935
I got the memepass so I can get the characters a week early and a free deluxe outfit for them. So when you get access to the character I'll already have one no lifed up to rep 5 fully geared

>>175800935
Well it's also so they can get the other characters for free as well

Game's gonna die completely before that happens though lmao

>>175801098
And how much is that one week gonna matter in two weeks? Three?

>>175800960
You didn't ask him shit. You asked me. And I replied.
>>175800829

>>175800829
Use your soft fient and normal fients more then. As for the rest, it's clear you don't understand raider at all. Wall splat is guaranteed top heavy if you are already in top guard and are not too close to the wall, sides are guaranteed if not. Zone is guaranteed on gb except against reflex guard becuase fuck you assassins lol. This is basic shit.

>>175800935
I'm probably going to buy it purely because of the week early access

>>175800829
>Talks about character
>Doesn't even know how the characters punishes work

Only inconsistency you pointed out is assassins being able to parry your unblockable on gb, the rest is all very consistent. You may very well just be a shit raider.

t. Rep 17 raider

>>175801267
You literally just outlined what I was talking about you monkey. Every other character is
>GB means you can take a side heavy
>Wallbang or Light Parry means you can top heavy

Raider is
>GB gets you a zone
>Unless you're fighting an Assassin
>Wallbang gets you a top heavy
>Unless the wall is too close or you have to change guard
>Light parry gives you a top heavy
>Except against certain lights where it only gives you a side heavy

Every other character can follow a flowwchart to know what confirms what. Raider is full of 'if's and 'but's.

>>175801470
Read above.

>>175801621
Yeah raider needs some buffs, but none of this makes him hard to play. The basics of raider is feint heavies, then start letting them fly and soft fient then now and then. After 3-4 hits you win. I've played him since launch and the only character easier than him is roach. If you want to master him then it gets a bit harder due to his punish game being different for assassins and his gb throw being awkward, that's it.

Raider is the ultimate beginner character, you can pick up the basics and do some real work with him. But to keep up with the other characters at a higher level you really have to learn the little nuances he has.

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CAN YOU DO THE FUCKING DAILY ORDERS WITH MATCHMAKING OFF YET? FUCK.

>rep 5 LB
>beat him
>re on my main
>ok
>Warden
>take round 1
>miserum miserum
>miserum miserum
>"bro its nerfed"
>lose next 2 rounds
>he leaves

they literally cant win without it, when are they nerfing it

>>175802110
just play with people

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>Play a match of Brawl
>Going against a LawCuck and a Berserker
>Zerk ragequits and Lawcuck starts getting aggressive
>My teammate accidently hits him while practicing a combo and he spergs out
>He pops revenge on me even though teammate says sorry
>We still beat him
>Even after the match, he calls himself an amazing player and that I have no life.

People like this actually exist

>>175802193
>It's nerfed!

I hate when people say this. It wasn't nerfed, it was buffed and nerfed at the same time. Canceling it isn't as powerful, but it comes out so fast that you can't reaction-light to interrupt anymore. You have to predict when he's gonna do it and be at a certain range. Also, it seems to track like fucking crazy now.

>>175802317
NO
I HATE PEOPLE

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>>175802317
I'm an Ausfag, there's no people to play with outside of duels! I'll keep bitching about this in every thread!

>>175801195
Not much, but it will be fun crushing people trying out the new characters when I have them fully geared

>>175802193
The devs don't know how to nerf. They completely shat on conq while giving warlord and pk a slap on the wrist

What are you guys hoping to see tomorrow?

>>175802598
Centurion v Shinobi dev duels where the Centurion wins by a mile every time.

>>175802359
>Canceling it isn't as powerful, but it comes out so fast that you can't reaction-light to interrupt anymore.
This is what pisses me off about the speed buff for it. You can't reaction light him when he chains shoulders, you have to predict. So now Wardens are shouldering once, just to do nothing and parry your prediction light.
It's unbelievably unbalanced, and makes me 100% certain that one or multiple devs main Warden

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I just dueled someone who had 1/8 the time I have in for Honor... and he beat me using my two mains (Warden and Lawbringer). He trounced me and won almost every single round.

This is the most depressed I've felt in a long time. Now I know how Salieri felt in Amadeus.

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>About to win duel
>Window pops up and takes priority over the game "HEY would you like to update the MSN messenger you deinstalled 20 fucking years ago RIGHT NOW?"
>Die
What the FUCK man.

>>175802598
Haven't they already said what they are going to show?

>>175802656
>>175802598
I want the Centurion to be shit but have amazing aesthetics so I can spend weeks getting good at him, only to have him buffed to the point where he's hilariously overpowered and all the players bitch about it because they didn't get on the PAX ROMANA train fast enough. Maybe a look at Shinobi and Centurion's fashion options, too.

>>175802359

yeah you just have to mash and hope they dont parry

I think you honestly just have to shut down warden completely by stayign ranged, parry some of his top lights and he'll be afriad to use them, then just poke til hes dead, boring as fuck but seems to work

>>175802359
>NERF WARDEN
>devs say it'll be nerfed
>legions of smug posters come out of the woodworks
>it gets nerfed
>smug posters mysteriously disappear when it doesn't completely gut warden like they wanted
>shitters are gone for 2 or so days
>suddenly they're back in full force saying it wasn't enough and that warden's shoulder should be completely unsafe and reactable

as a kensei main watching all of this from the sidelines, I'm pretty sure you all won't be satisfied until the game's posterboy is gutted
warden's really not that hard to deal with, he's just another noobstomper

I'd like to see how all of these fuckers complaining about warden would fare against Vanilla Sagat.

>>175803185
Kensei has a decent time against Warden, actually, because you can do the side dash light every time he goes for the shoulder charge. Now that his cancel was nerfed, it's actually a pretty safe option and works a lot of the time. Plus, Kensei has really long rang and can poke Warden out of his charge with a quick, powerful top light very easily. For certain characters, Warden is simply unmanageable in 1v1.

>>175802514
it will match you up with people internationally.

>>175803334
Doesn't happen. I get "matchmaking failed" and have never been put with Americans before. I don't wanna sit in queue for 30 minutes to get "matchmaking failed" over and over again for a game mode I don't even really want to play.

>>175803185
>it gets nerfed

But that's wrong

I don't really care too much, I'll just roll away like always, but to call it a nerf is retarded

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it doesnt matter what rep they are, killing wardens always feels good

>>175803960
Until you get shit on and come here bitching about the vortex, right?

>>175803745
>Reduced the lengths to which you can GB cancel
>Made the cancel no longer instant
>Increased the recovery time
>Not a nerf

Okay dude.

>>175804252
You're so fucking delusional, it's amazing

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>>175804396
Okay dude.

So, I just wanted to say a big thank you to whoever recommended using Warlord in 4v4s, feels good being a raid boss

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I haven't played since about 3 weeks after release, is the game inside the dead/no fun allowed territory now ?

>>175804575
no it's great you should log on and play with us
[/spoiler]it's dying, needs new blood, everyone knows all the tricks already[/spoiler]

>>175797574
Protect the people at a minute's notice.
It should sound familiar, yes.

>>175804506
I'm sorry, I guess it was me being delusional.

I didn't realize you were baiting.

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>>175804747
>fucked up the spoiler tags

>>175804575

play duel and immediately quit whenever you see warlord or warden. every other class is fair without gear/feats now. the game is enjoyable that way. brawls are okay too. 4v4 is tolerable but only if you accept that its utter retardation before starting

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>all the kids complaining about Warden are back

>>175804857
>Character has changes made to it that make it less effective
>Character is unarguably numerically worse in multiple aspects
>But it's not a nerf

Okay dude.

>Warden is this places Blackbeard

Its all we ever argue about

sorry but lawshits need a nerf, this is unreal. Top of the board on most game modes.

>>175805154

>reduce damage on attack X to ten from 15
>make attack X cost twice as much stamina
>attack X now comes out in 50(fifty)ms

its a nerf guys! if it has two nerfs and one buff, its a nerf. attack X is useless now honestly, just roll away

>>175805414
for the time being play either warlord or raider so that you can get a gb after dodging the shove->light

>>175805439
Hyperbole doesn't make you correct you know.

>>175805484

I refuse dude, warlord is cancer and raider is just a predictable nightmare.

>>175780573
Your slapfest was less than par, fudgepacker

>>175805439
>GB cancel gets 200ms worse
>Hard cancel also gets 200ms worse
>Recovery times get 100ms worse
>Attack gets 100ms (one hundred) faster

Okay dude.

>>175805710
>Most important stat gets a buff
>Less important stats gets insignificant nerfs

>>175805882
why are you still replying

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>>175805882
>100ms buff is somehow significant
>200ms nerfs are somehow insignificant
>GB cancel timing is insignificant
>Hard cancel recovery is insignificant

I came to check and see if Warden shit flinging and overall cancer were still the theme of this general/game and got my answer near instantly.

I'll check back when Centurion is released to see if this shit is still alive I suppose.

>>175805917
Because he's wrong and is trying to save face

>>175806562
you need to realize he's not arguing to be right, he's arguing to get (you)s, you fucking idiot
you will never win the argument unless you stop

>>175806667
I'm the 'okay dude' dude. I don't know if i'm who you meant to give advice to, but I feel it works regardless.

>>175806354

Fuck you


Our rage will keep us alive

Why don't we have drawfags?

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>>175806852

Raider should not be able to feint his unblockable y/n

>>175806931

get out

>>175806931
this is next level sadism

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Dev stream hyoe tomarrow?

Centurion/shinobi gameplay?

New armor reveals?

>>175807092
I thought dev streams were on fridays now?

>>175806931
>Raider can no longer attack in any capacity at all

I have an idea, guys! What if Lawbringer could cancel his charge and also it wall splats?

>>175807352
Why the fuck am I so laggy after the maintenance

I've left 90% of my games since then because it's too laggy to deal with

>>175807638
Because Ubisoft can't run a network for the life of them.

>>175807638
And why the fuck did my post reply to you >>175807352
when I clearly didn't fucking have it do so

I agree though, taking his ability to feint away would be ridiculous

Turtling is getting fixed soon, right?

>>175807773
devs have said it will change, but not when. So, not soon.

>>175803960
I feel bad if they're rep 1 or below (unless it's obvious they know about SB bullshit). They're just starting out it's not their fault the hero the game p much tells them to play first has a hilariously powerful spam move

>>175807773

DLC patch is buffing chip damage

>>175807773
Kappa build will come one day, keep believing, bro

>>175781092
I'm excited for Centurion, but because I'm certain they've been trying to rush out these chars, I know the armors for them are going to look disappointing af because of the time required to model them all out.

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I absolutely love Orochi's deflect, the problem that I could just parry him for the same result is silly though

this is how the game should 50/50's

>>175808298
DLC heroes were in the making for a while

>>175808339
Roach's deflect is going to get better when they nerf parries.

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>>175806931
>lets nerf a bottom tier character
>>175807773
hopefully, but I also hope it isn't a switch to a meta that will be dominated by light spamming waterheads like this "kappa build" would suggest

>>175808493
>nerf parries.
what??
If that means anything besides "making the parry range tighter", then that sucks fucking ass

>>175808552
> Bottom tier
> Raider

> Unparryable
> Retarded punishes
> On command unblockable that can only be parried or eaten
> Axehump

>>175808664
If I had to change parries, I'd make it so parrying a heavy maybe confirms a single light, and parrying a light confirms some other stuff. Having a heavy parry (easy as fuck) confirm into anything significant is ridiculous. Make heavy parries a little bit harder, too.

>>175808752
>Unparryable
Bug
>Retarded punishes
Exhaust punish worse than Berserker, throw punish worse than Law / Warlord.
>On command unblockable that can only be parried or eaten
Dodge.

>>175808752
>axehump

The only thing keeping raider from never being selected

>>175808837
I'd actually be okay with that

>>175808868
What is the throw punish for WL? Just ledge the prick?

>>175808752
>unparryable
I don't count exploits as tech, but I guess people do use it. hopefully it gets fixed along with other unlock "tech"
>Retarded punishes
>on command unblockable
these are the some of the few things he has going for him, along with soft feint into stun tap.

don't get me wrong, good raider players can fuck shit up, but the last thing he needs is a nerf.

>>175808998
Warlord has a multiple direction super far throw that confirms a heavy.
Law has a single direction super far throw that confirms a heavy.
Raider has a single direction super far throw that confirms nothing.

>>175808868
>>175808752
How do you do the unparryable, anyway? I went against a Rep 8 Raider who said he didn't know how to do it and didn't do it once.

>>175808880
See, I'd actually make heavy parries not "confirm" into anything for the sake of balance. Getting your heavy parried should drain a lot of stamina, but it shouldn't result in taking damage unless they make parrying them a lot harder. Maybe certain characters with certain movesets can get some kind of very quick light jab out of it, but besides that heavies should be a pressuring move that doesn't put the user at too much risk due to how easy they are to block and parry.

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>>175807946
t. Tru3Tal3nt

>>175809103
>Law
>Single direction throw
I feel like I'm missing something, or are you talking about the Impaling charge?

>>175809107
Attack, unlock, lock on. Timing is different for different attacks.

Just google 'Raider Unlock Tech'

>>175809228
Yeah. Granted, it's only confirmed on a light parry and not every GB, but it's still a strictly better carry than Raider's throw when you land it.

>tfw today I parried warden zone attack
>tfw today I parried orochi zone attack
>tfw toay I deflected laws 50/50

getting gud feelsgood

>>175809298
>only confirmed on light parries
I'm pretty sure the patch changed it to confirm on heavy parries as well

>>175809621

Law isn't a 50/50 and is not hard to deflect. The others are tough, though

>>175809621
>tfw today I didn't play For Honor

Who really had the better time?

So on PS4 almost every 4v4 match starts with two bots, every since the last update. This happening on pc or other consoles?

>>175809826

me because I like this game alot

>>175809826
Something to think about, truly

Are we here just to suffer?

>>175809826
I played Kensei some more so I could get better at Kensei so I could play Kensei more and get better at Kensei

>>175809626
Which patch are you talking about? I've never been able to land it off a heavy parry. I don't play tons of law though it might just be me messing up timings.

Do people actually get mad when you use zerkers max punish?

>>175810261
the patch where they buffed law.
patch notes say:
Impaling riposte
-guaranteed after a parry

and I'm pretty sure before that you could confirm an impale off of a light parry

>>175810107
>Play a character more so I can learn the character
>Realize that there's no reason to learn a character for a game I'm losing my love for
>Realize that there's no reason to learn a character for any game because i'll eventually lose my love for all of them
>Realize that there's no reason to even casually play games because without any sort of competitive drive in them i'm not achieving anything lasting
>Realize that even if I still had my competitive drive I wouldn't be achieving anything lasting
>Realize that I have already wasted most of my golden years on something so temporary
>Realize I am so entrenched in my routine that I no longer have the drive to make anything of myself
>Realize that even if I weren't stuck in a rut I would never be able to achieve anything lasting
>Realize that I just don't have the wherewithal to be a winner
>Realize that if I can't achieve the large things then all I have left are the small things
>Realize that even though these things might be temporary and insignificant, they are still the pinnacle of what I will experience
>Realize that just because someone else's best is better than my best doesn't mean my best isn't still my best
>Realize that there's no reason not to enjoy the fleeting moments I have however I can
>Realize that I might as well learn a character for a game I'm losing my love for
>Play a character more so I can learn the character

>>175810596
it's called having a hobby, chill your shit

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>>175810596

Stream to tomorrow right?

This is probably a dumb question, but I'm coming to this game as someone who usually plays the support role (Lucio in OW, Doc in Siege, Narbash in Paragon), are there any heroes that at least kinda fill that niche?

Been sitting in queue for 5 minutes looking for a Player Versus AI game now. I just wanna do my orders with matchmaking off.

>>175812081
Not really, though certain feats and gear can help you revive people better.

>>175811995
ya, hopefully some dlc hero gameplay

>>175812081
the closest you'll get is shugoki - the move Demon's Embrace is best in the game for team fights, and he has the quick revive feat.

>>175811995

I wont be around anon, sorry, I know how much you love my stream

>>175812081
The heavies are kinda support based. I played Rein in OW, and I love tanky heroes in general, so if you're into that you can try out Warlord, Shugoki, Conqueror, and Lawbringer.

As for anything else, dunno.

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That feel.

>Facing a Valkyrie as Lawbringer or Raider
>Sweep combo is more or less unbeatable due to various factors

Big sick, Ubisoft!

>>175813282
Press space to dash, or press it twice to roll.

>>175813360
You can't dodge out of the combo but if your put into the combo ur shit.

>Dueling a Rep 6 Valkyrie
>I'm playing my level 13 Raider
>All he does is fucking turtle with full block and very rarely throw out lights
>Manage to get him down to exhausted in the first round
>He instantly fucking quits

Absolutely disgraceful.

>>175813512
You're under the impression that everyone can consistently block 100% of lights, especially while going for parries as characters like Lawbringer and Raider.

>>175813360
he's referencing how slow guard-change characters can't avoid the sweep if they tried and failed to block the second light

the reason is that the guard switch has to finish before the dodge can begin

>>175807168
Only one was delayed to a friday.

i understand the warden hate but whats wrong with warlord?

i got my warlord to rep 3 and have been having a blast. he's puts out decent damage and if someone tries to ledge me or someone starts ganking i can just chuck em.

plus people can't seem to get the hang of parrying no stamina side heavies.

>>175814537
>I understand the warden hate
>what's wrong with warlord?
Really activates the almonds

What are some other game modes you'd like Ubisoft to add?

Me, I'd like a full blown Siege type. Basically one of those big ass fortress maps, having multiple capture points in a roughly straight line, basically slowly moving up the length of the map as the attackers push and the defenders push back.

Also would have Archers and Captains and shit.

>>175814802
>archers
nope
>devs also said they would never.

>>175814802
I'd just like a defend the ram type thing, desu

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixOF1Kfm5qo

gettin real tired of this....

>>175814802
> Add 1 massive map
> 8v8
> Joinable dedicated server
> Just a neverending deathmatch
> Leave whenever you want, rewards are based on your score

>>175814802
Yeah, I would love a mode that's basically like Rush in Battlefield games. Two capture points that have to be guarded, either of them can trigger the next sequence.

>>175814802
Still waiting on my Faction Locked 1 v 1 v 1 mode

colosseum map and everything with only one Knight, one Viking, and one Samurai character

Others could spectate and watch, waiting for their turn, hell even allow them to bet steel on who would win.

>>175816349
that'd be dope but betting steel would be too exploitable

>>175814763
well i know warden is hated because of the SC vortex.
i'm not sure what exactly makes warlord so hated.

>>175816570
you're a fucking retard faggot if you prefer Warlord over Warden
>Gigantic Kit
>Lots of Health
>Shield
>Pushes you a mile away
>Perks make him take less damage and deal more
>Headbutt Spamming
Gee...

>>175816485
Yeah but it would be fucking great.

Imagine getting approached as a champion [Forgot to mention continuous Victors become champions and hold a special title/cosmetic Weapon that can be grafted onto any weapon tier]

someone comes up to you and tells you to throw the next fight, betting on the other guy and bring you in on a fixed fight scheme that lasts months and finally getting beaten out by some rookie, and getting exposed all over the internet

you know, like how those assholes on EvE do it.

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>>175816349
In that case for faction, players should be limited to their faction characters.

>>175816823
Yes that's what i meant by 'Faction Locked'

>>175816884
didn't see the "locked" my bad friend-o. Would be a cool mode, idk why there isn't one.

>>175816570
> I'm not sure why he's so hated
Literally now weaknesses to him. The only thing his kit is missing is bleed.

>>175816662
i don't hate either of those characters. i only prefer warlord over warden because i got tired of playing him and then kinda got shit after playing with other characters.

i don't know why you're getting upset

>>175816965
okay, yeah that makes sense.
it is kinda fucked up that when gearing a warlord you don't have to put shit into feat cool down

>>175816965

>Literally now weaknesses to him.

punishable zone, he has one of the most unsafe bashes in the game.

So, /fhg/, how much Steel do you have after buying everything you wanted and having nothing more to spend it on?

anyone else think soldiers and captains hinder the skirmish experience?
playing today i was fighting on river fort by the multilevel part when a captain ran out of the door right next to me guard broke me and i couldn't do anything but take a heavy. shit killed me.

soldiers are fucking annoying too

>>175817295
I have 45k and haven't bought anything because all the ornaments and outfits are hideous, and emotes/executions I rarely use in duels. Using an execution in a duel wastes time.

>>175817295
not enough. gotta make 30,000 by the time the new characters come out