/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>175776779
The games use token-ring networking. It's not "phantom range" so much as it's movement delay.

>>175776853

If I go for the kill the firekeeper ending will I not be able to level up anymore?

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Posting this as proof that it's very possible to win invasons.

>>175777023
if the firekeeper can't die how can you kill the firekeeper

I tried playing Dark Souls 2 SotFS and it feels like garbage compared to Dark Souls 1. I'm giving up and going hollow.

>>175777023
shes immortal

>>175777083
>not dragonbro
Why though?

Wanna do a dark miracle build based around Brigand Twindaggers. Probably want to cap around 60-80. Any ideas what I should start as?

>>175777023
>he didn't finish Irina's quest
Playing after beating SoC treats the game as if you haven't yet, only you can enter his now-empty arena. Literally the only difference is if you summoned Yuria and she survived, and you can get the Firelink Set from the handmaid.

>>175777147
Because havel is super and there's nothing super about anorexic dragons

>>175777083
I wish this meme would end

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>>175776791
>that torch guy who you kill at first but later keep alive because you think he's helping you but then go back to killing because you realize he's telling the archers where you are

Where were you when anon finally made a female character(not a trap) that the general actually kind of approved of?

>>175776791
>what's going on in this thr- OH LAWD

>>175777083
Of course it's possible to win invasions. The problem is how rarely do you get hosts that aren't competent or about to go inside a boss room.
>it's a invader fishing gank squad episode

>>175777113
2 feels VERY DIFFERENT from 1 and has its share of problems, but I still highly recommend it. Once you relearn movement and level ADP until you get ~100 AGL it's just like old times.

>>175777283
I meant the recorder. There's no point in NOT being a dragonbro if you're not going to wear medium/heavy armor as the number of hits to kill is identical for none or light armor.

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What the fuck is this shit? Why does it keep saying stealing humanity?

Is the lightning bow miracle worth using?

>>175777401
Because DS3 dragon looks fucking stupid

>>175777451
>PCucks will defend this

>>175777473
It's literally the only good miracle in the game.

>>175777451
Hackers. Welcome to the PC master race, do you feel special yet?

>>175777303
Winning invasions is no meme comrade.

>>175777340
As soon as a loading screen ends I'm getting summoned again. If the host id's hiding or on the other side of the map i black crystal and get resummoned within 15 seconds.

If the host seems like a new player I try to go easy on them and sometimes just practice things on them. >>175777319

>>175777503
>implying looks matter
Optimal play is all that matters.
>the number of hits to kill are identical
>dragon form weighs nothing
>dragon form has superior fire defense (which is the most commonly used damage type in PvP)
>dragon form can punish shields and parry attempts
>dragon form an give you free multiplicative AR
>dragon form as a free fire-surge built in for finishing purposes

Who cares what it looks like? If you aren't going to build a medium or heavy armor character: you should be a dragon.

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>>175777083
Every time I see this webm, it looks like the darkwraith also got hit by the CSS but is just collapsing from sheer relief. I know my butthole would puckered ultra hard in that situation.

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>>175777352
The thing about DS2's movement is that you can feintroll by pressing r1+roll that changes your roll timing or gets you out of nasty situations quicker and that had made or break my game. People who don't know about that mechanic often die to wakeup attacks or can't dodge some persistent spells and even then it won't save you from everything since it consumes more stamina, thus making it balanced in terms of stamina use. It's not like it grants you extra i-frames either but you can rollcatch people or even roll out of bad situations quicker by changing the roll timing.

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*strokes ur spear*

>>175777401
I have one video of that but i haven't made it a wemb and I'm on the other side of an invasion.

>>175777083

I've won plenty of invasions, mostly when invaders are absolute fucktards using Havel Set or spells at SL < 10.

Never won one against an invader that had a no-hit or Auto-Tears cheat running, though.

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>>175777319
But, anon. I WAS that anon

>>175777754
Sorry Mr. Jackson but I don't swing that way.

>>175777319
dragonsis

>>175777737
I thought he died too. He was actually parried during the moment of impact and likely would have died too if not for getting parried.

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>>175777907
>swoledragonsis has taken your shrine waifu hostage
What do?

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>>175777754
>literally starring Johnny Depp
I wish his offline boss fight wasn't so easy and differentiate itself from Gravetender. He's probably the most interesting character other than Filanore.

>>175777825
... man, Björk has really let herself go.

>>175777083
>very possible to win invasons
Oh yeah it's really easy when it's effectively a free-for-all. How about the other 99% of invasions where it's one host behind two or more sunroaches with their ultragreatswords? Let's see you win one of those.

>>175778139
What is so interesting?

>>175778139
>Manus was extremely gay
>the diaper goes with the rest of his armor
>he lost his diaper somewhere in a swamp at one point
That was a bit of a surprise.

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>>175778110
R E M O V E

>>175778110
*pushes u*

*ur legs snap*

>>175778139
that doesn't look like johnny depp

in game halflight doesn't even look male

>He's probably the most interesting character other than Filanore.

i don't recall any lore about him

>>175778351
wHY THE FUCK IS THAT FLIPPED

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>>175777825
Reminds me of what happens if you set all the face data to 255, even the hidden sliders.

>>175778451
Because I don't know

That one was the one with the best resolution.

>>175778110
real talk does dragonsis have a normal vajini or a cloaca

i can't decide unless i know for a FACT

>>175778416
>doesn't even look male
delusional das3 waifu fag who thinks his creation actually looks like a girl

>>175778239
They are boring and I've deleted most of those recordings let alone ever bother making a webm of it.

It's usually just me waiting for the perfect place to ambush them and killing the host and maybe dying to 2 or 3 phantoms before I fade out.

I don't run into a group of 4 people like I'm super man and expect to win. I wait for ambushes or snipe at them.

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>>175778110
>imbligationatoring Firekeeper is my waifu

>>175778139
>>175778321
Because the set has three pieces, they only put three IDs in his equipment. They messed up and put a headpiece instead of the leggings, so you could say they almost literally put his pants on his head.

>>175778504
Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with the eyes?

>>175778589
There is no ambush, m8. Either you try and get ganged up on or they go to the boss while you wait. I'd LOVE to somehow get a host alone but fuck me if that will ever happen unless someone is retarded.

>>175778546
Obviously whatever you want her to have.

>>175778312
He's some random nobody from Ooacile that wasn't even suited for fighting but they made him a Spear of the church and he decided to stick around in a ancestral city because he found something worth protecting. As for what his motivations were whether he knew the truth about the Gods and the pygmies, we will never know but it's clear that he disregarded his original task to be there while everyone else he came with attempted to leave.

I find it also amusing that they made him a spear either because they find his loyalty worth knighting or they were really desperate to find volunteers.

>>175778110
I will give you 3 burgers if you let her go

>>175777640
No the meme that invasions cant be won. You can get braindead host kills pretty easily

Ive got a perfect clip that a vegetable could have pulled off but i cant be fucked to do anything with it

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>>175776675
What are you referring to in that webm? My last hit? I clip his feet, but he's using milkring so he's invisible at the point where I clip him. When I attack the game uses my version of events to decide if an attack was on target, so you don't see any positional oddities for my attacks, only the slight gap between the hitbox and end of the weapon model. Which isn't that much on a OWCS.

>>175776038
The police certainly make my life hard as an invader.

>>175778806
What was the truth about the Gods an Pygmies? Also why does he wear a woman's dress?

ugs would've been faster and actually useful if oro hadn't complained about it being to fast during the network test

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>>175778643
Then who is your waifu?
Please tell me it's not boipucci...

>>175778451
Probably because casting miracles with your offhand makes more sense than your main. Whoever did this forgot that Gwyn was channeling his own power and therefore had no need for talismans

>>175778575
>delusional das3 waifu fag who thinks his creation actually looks like a girl

i'm talking about an in-game character

what did you mean by this?

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>>175778726
There's an NPC in Bloodborne with a lopsided face, and it seems that they added a hidden slider for controlling the angle at which the facial features line up in order to accomplish that.

>>175778742
That almost never happens. Most host do not have 3 phantoms and if they do. Guess what? There's going to be a ton of invaders.

All I have to do is stall them or slow them down while more invaders show up and that is easily done at places i like to ambush from.

Usually if a host has phantoms they aren't going to sprint through. They are going to try to engage you out of over confidence.

>>175779086
I'm implying you've never been outside and don't know what a real woman looks like because you probs think your female characters look good with that man jaw

>>175779146
sweet fucking jesus

>>175778998
>What was the truth about the Gods an Pygmies?
Serving the Gods in a penal city instead of defying them for casting the Darksign upon them and dooming all of Humanity to worship a separate race as omnipotent deities by sacrificing their own to artificially extend their reign upon them. Any human/pygmy should rightfully be pissed off that they got the smaller portion like the Pygmy lord you talk to right at the front of Ringed City.
>Also why does he wear a woman's dress?
Because he's a faggot pretty boy that came there for some scholarly mission.

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>>175779146
that's amazing. what other hidden sliders are there? and what npc is that?

>>175779146
Which NPC?

Second playthrough of DS3 I've done in a long time, doing a quapity build this time. Profaned Greatsword still decent for PvP?

>>175779061
SLIDERS

>>175779396
poise trades with ultras are meta

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>>175779335
>I'm implying you've never been outside and don't know what a real woman looks like because you probs think your female characters look good with that man jaw

but why are you implying this? we aren't talking about my characters we are talking about pic related.

>>175779396
>UGS
>ever good in pvp

>>175779506
So I'm really gonna enjoy that wolf ring +3. Thanks.

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>>175779469
She's long-gone anon. I tried to remake her again, but she didn't turn out quite the same.

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>>175779392
>>175779394
I can't find a good picture of his face, but it's the Narrow-Minded Man.

>>175777083
Reminder that it's possible to beat any invader without attacking :^)

>>175779874
reminder that you can still win invasions even if you kys yourself as soon as you spawn in

>>175779514
>literally shat himself in a swamp and left his diaper behind
>wearing his pendant because he hasn't lost it yet
>was from oolacile
>lost his bow in the literal abyss
And people still think this isn't manus?

>>175780051
>shat himself in a swamp and left his diaper behind
w-what

can someone explain the 2kat meme

>>175779974
what did he mean by this

>>175778806
I think another small thing that's interesting is that Halflight uses the Frayed Blade, a weapon associated with Midir. It was a once exquisite blade that's been stained black and frayed at the hilt. What I think is what happened is that Halflight alerted Shira to Midir's predicament when his sword became distorted and decrepit.

And you know, that's not a mindblowing leap, or anything, but it's a small little thing that I find very neat.

>>175780140
You find the "leg armor" that he's wearing in >>175778139 in a damn swamp, and he's not wearing it anymore when he invades you as the spear.

>>175780051
Manus was primeval man, not from Oolacile.
>BUT HE HAS A PENDANT! IT'S MANUS!

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>>175779061
My host is muh waifu.

>>175779514
farts

>>175780140
loincloth found in the swamp in dreg heap


>>175780170
2kat got a buff a while back to the HA of its wa and to the headshot portion of the attack

using rouge you could guarantee a 1400hp wombo combo if you landed the weapon art

>>175779874
But I dealt well over 2500 damage in that video.

>>175780386
>farts

brap?

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>>175777083
>not casting soulmass
you're not very conservative about that fp bar

>>175780446
Whats your point? He could have ran away from you up to the fog without ever attacking. Were you going to chase him with your 9 end?

>>175777702
not that anon but i unironically pumped vit just to give my pyromancer enough stats to wear heavy armor and still midroll.

looks matter a lot.

>>175780170
2kat
LMAO
2KAT!!!1!

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>>175780484
>it's a cocky strfag thinks he can beat the stake episode

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>>175780627
To the beginning of the map while more invaders spawn in?

This happens all the time. Here's a webm of a guy doing that.

>>175780808
>strfag
>bkglaive

he still got what he deserved

>>175780942
oops thought it was the splitleaf

>>175780170
2kat meme originates from DeS where an overpowered skeleton with 2 Katanas has a 0.000001% chance to drop the only item in the game which can fully upgrade a Sharp weapon. Also because dual wielding kats in PvP allow you to infinite stunlock. Hence, lol2kat.

>>175780484
I didn't realise I had my ceastus out amd regened enough fp for a third css and I just wanted to chase him.

I normally will use the last fp to cast soul mass unless I'm chasing or I think my allies will die soon.

>>175780808
that was me earlier

I wasn't even mad when I died, just impressed

>>175780286
>has the pendent
>is on a hunt for the dark soul
>is associated with, if not from, oolacile
>ringed city is locked in time before DaS1 since we know gwyn hasn't linked the fire yet egg-bitch sends you forward to the end of time when you wake her up
>is a sorcerer
>has literally been to the literal abyss of legend
>likely gets the whole dark soul in his continuum
>loses his pendent like he lost his bow and diaper
He's literally Manus.

>>175780890
>To the beginning of the map
Why would you run in the opposite direction of the finish line? What a terrible host you must be. Post a webm of you running to the bossfog, surely you can if you're good.

>level 50 pyromancer ..just 25/25 so far with dark hand
I'll 1-2 shotting everything and raping bosses. so good

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I recently came back to this game after playing for ~250 hours in the 2 months after launch. I wanted to love it so much. But there's just no escaping the fact that PvP is the worst its ever been in a dark souls game and it frustrates the hell out of me.

>Rolling gives so many iframes and costs so little stamina that even bad players can easily stalemate a fight just by spam rolling every attack.

>Stamina regenerates so quickly that stamina management is basically a nonfactor. Even if your opponent spams attacks at you with a UGS all they have to do is back up for 1.5 seconds and they're full again

>They completely reversed Bloodborne's backstab system so that fishing with a hornet ring is almost as effective as it was during the worst parts of DS1's PvP meta

>A combination of all of the above along with the way Hyper Armor works means that generally in PvP, attacking first is always the wrong move. Fights devolve into circling each other and waiting for the other person to make the mistake of throwing out an attack for you to either parry, backstab punish, poise through, or attack into for counter damage.

>99% of players are either using magic-buffed straightswords or an ultra-heavy weapon with a thrusting moveset. Magic is only for oneshot gimmick builds because every spell can be easily dodged on reaction.

I honestly think it's the worst PvP in the whole Soulsborne franchise. Yes, including Bloodborne which I also hated.

>>175781157
I'm the invader in those webms. Why would I run to the boss gate unless chasing a host?

>>175778504
hidden sliders?

>>175780484
what's your build onioncleric?

Replaying DaSIII, got the DLC which I've never played before. What sort of build is fun to use? My previous playthrough was STR+DEX, so never really used any magic.

>>175781108
it's just some Oolacilian girlboy you stupid fuck
Manus was a pygmy from a time before Oolacile even existed
of course he's going to use sorceries because Oolacile was a sorcery oriented society
if anything, he was probably an Oolacilian hero about to lay the final blow on Manus before Manus tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where his darkness is law
now the fool wishes to claim the dark soul, and undo the future that is Manus

>>175781262

Referring to DS3, obviously

>>175781262
How can one post be so wrong?
How is this possible?

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>>175781262
>the way Hyper Armor works
The lack of poise isn't the problem, you can see me kill this guy without flinching him. No amount of poise would have helped him, he cant flinch any less than "not at all". I don't disagree with your conclusions, but all DS1 poise would have done is given me, the straightsword user, additional options. Even in Ds1 the meta consisted mainly of doinga katana tap and backing off, the only difference now is that you get two hits instead of one.

>>175781108
Nice headcanon.
Upboated. Waiting for Vaati to confirm.

>>175781262
thanks for sharing

>>175781296
30att 60fth 2rings

>>175781262
>>Rolling gives so many iframes and costs so little stamina that even bad players can easily stalemate a fight just by spam rolling every attack.

Someone post roll catch wemb

>>175781262
>Yes, including Bloodborne

that's funny because BB was the best minus the retarded bell system

>>175781547

Excellent counterpoint, I rescind all my claims.

>>175780484
>at dragonshrine
>fucking 800hp
>[x] doubt

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>>175781281
Go play as a host. Surely you won't actually get killed by any invaders, right?

>>175781327
>if anything, he was probably an Oolacilian hero about to lay the final blow on Manus before Manus tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where his darkness is law
now the fool wishes to claim the dark soul, and undo the future that is Manus

it's probably this to be honest

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>try out invading for the first time in Ds2
>this happens

What the fuck do I do now?

>>175781653
>every player is knowledgeable of the system and understands how they should build a character

anon you know people arent this smart

>>175781598

Not the one you're replying to but I'm curious, I always heard it was complete ass because of the way parrying worked and how fast healing was. Working your way through 20 vials when the animation is damn near instant sounds like quite a pain.

>>175781262
>rollcatching is exceedingly easy to do with literally every weapon class besides straight swords

>this goes both ways, and is actually a good thing

>this is objectively wrong

>this is only true in the SL80 memeshitter bracket

>this is only true in the SL80 memeshitter bracket

Sounds like you need to stick to SL60 or move on up to SL120.

>>175781698
Do you think you're bugs bunny and I'm Donald duck?

I'm an invader on that character and that's what I do.

I want to play as a firekeeper. I figure pyromancy is a given but what else should go for?
Thank fuck for Rosaria so that I can respec/restyle my character.

Also what's the ideal SL for invading? I might just be too low level at just over 50.

>>175781828
>ss arent good for roll catching

lmao

>>175781710
Think about what you've done

>>175781710
knock knock

>>175781594

No one's saying it's impossible, but there's no denying that rolling is much safer in DS3 than in previous games. In DS2 you'd die in seconds if you just spammed roll at someone who knew what they were doing, even with generous amounts of ADP.

>>175781904
I didn't say they couldn't do it, just that any other weapon class does it so easily that it's not even worth mentioning.

>>175781878
>won't attempt to run to the bossfog
so you concede that a host can always run to the bossfog whenever they feel like it?

>>175781968
Shut up saying you can roll spam when you can't. You will get hit almost every time by someone(me) that knows how to roll catch.

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>>175781935
WHO'S THERE

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>invade into a 3 man death squad
>kill 2 whites, cop is called in
>go to elevator shaft, roll through hits for a good minute
>this happens

>>175781972
wut

straightswords, daggers, and curved swords are the only classes that make roll catching easy

>>175782139
Literally

So how do I deal with faggots that just roll dodge through my magic and hit me with a straight sword at the range of a UGS

Anyone on ps4 up for killing friede? Sl 60, pass dsg

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>invade as an aldrich faithful
>another guy comes in as I'm searching for the host
>we find him and I start fighting
>the other guy just sits by, doesn't help at all and does the toast gesture while watching
It's not a fucking duel you goddamn faggot its a fucking invasion why the fuck would you not assist in killing the fucking host

>>175781327
Kek'ed

>>175781887
Firekeepers are of the dark, so the only thing I could see you earnestly, honestly using are Miracles, like some stuff Irina might know (if she even knows any and doesn't just teach them via story telling) and Sacred Frame at the most.

>>175782245
Get a side arm and stop using magic without thought put behind such action.

>>175782245
free aim that shit directly at your feet, most players will roll right into it

>>175782163
FUCKING REWARDED HOLY SHIT

>>175782124
>Shut up saying you can roll spam
what did he mean by this?

>You will get hit almost every time by someone(me) that knows how to roll catch.
retard alert

just favor toggle for infinite stamina and run away. Anyone chasing you has to use running R1's, so they can't be as fast as you or use favor toggling. Congratulations, you are now at the bossfog and have outskilled your opponent; remember to tell them that they're bad if they complain.

>>175782215
Literally who?

>>175782187
The following are better at roll-catching than straightswords: halberds, spears, reapers, daggers, curved swords, greatswords, ultragreatswords, great hammers, hammers, katanas, and the list continues.

>>175782056
All i know is that i win most invasions and most host especially those with phantoms do not run away from fights.

Usually only lone host sprint to boss or hide and I normally black crystal out if I can't find them because why waste ten mins looking for them whenI can invade in 15seconds after returning to my world.

If you want to prove some dumb theory about running to bosses then go do it yourself faggot. I'm not your personal army

>>175781972
ok ill give you that in all fairness, but alot of slower weapons require certain things to necessitate roll catches

I feel like it might be a touch easier to roll catch on reaction with a straight sword compared to an ultra. You can still roll catch chain someone from 100-0 with a bkgs but you can easily double roll in the time you see the r1 coming

>>175782324
What's a good sidearm? I've been using the MLGS

>>175782256
I'm almost home, I would like to come.

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>>175782393

>>175782446
Not that anon, but MLGS is not what I would call a sidearm. If you're using that, you should do a build that generates the most utility out of that.

>>175782259
>get summoned as a cop
>host is doing a fight club in road of sacrifices
>break up the party
>host leaves a mad comment on my profile

If you didn't want me don't equip the shitty covenant lmao

>>175782446
aquamarine dagger

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>>175782393
A dragonsis mage.

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>>175781262
>They completely reversed Bloodborne's backstab system so that fishing with a hornet ring is almost as effective as it was during the worst parts of DS1's PvP meta

how? I'd say that backstab are completely useless in this game, players can just avoid them simply moving away, they don't even need to roll. The "grab/attack" the character does to initialize the backstab is far worse than a standard r1 since they removed every possible option select when attempting a bs (plus the fact that you can parry someone who's attacking you from behind while facing away from them makes it even more risky).
The only way I'd see people actually managing to bs one another is by using Perseverance and even then everyone would just backpedal away waiting it off.
Now, adding that most of the weapons in this game have an insane tracking and that you can get hit when you're about to confirm a bs, makes every sort of backstab fishing useless.

>>175782459
Sure, just tell me when you're able to.

>>175782441
Let's say you're playing a game of chess where, at any point in time, you opponent is allowed to flip the board over if he so chooses and thus win the game. Is "yeah but he uuuusually doesn't do that, so it's okay for that rule to be there" a good defense?

>>175782587
What do you mean side arm then

>watching TwoBestFriends play Dark Souls
>Liam won't shut the fuck up and let Wooley explore and discover anything on his own

Fuck you, Liam.

>>175782623
your dragonsis is looking awfully aushwitz

>>175782407
roll catching panic rolls is easily chained by most weapons

roll catch on reaction is much different

>>175782446
Long sword

>>175782465
>It's over. Close the game. Oh, you're expecting a cutscene or a secret ending, we don't have that kind of development time

>>175782407
explain your reasoning

>>175782446
listen to this anon
>>175782610

>>175782379
You
Anyone saying roll spam
And people like you who defend it.

Its very easy to roll catch.

>>175782379
>just favor toggle for infinite stamina and run away.
Fine. Ill just post this on REDDIT so it will get fixed and you have nothing to cry about anymore.

>>175781935
OPEN UP THE DOOR IT'S REAL

>>175782824
I think its based around panic roll catch chains. Hes not wrong about that with some of those weapons

fast weapons are just so much better to catch on reaction though. Even with swing speed buffs alot of big weapons can still just be double rolled

>>175782653
You sound autistic as fuck kid.

Do you even invade? Post webms.

Host almost never sprint to fog gate and if they have multiple phantoms they almost always fight ir chase invaders.

Are you seriously crying about the possibility that it's not 100% possible to win every invasion?

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bring back the emote and the set

or else your waifu gets it

>>175783002
WITH THE NON STOP POP POP OF STAINLESS STEEL

>>175781917
>>175781935
Update: Got disconnected

Then I somehow actually got summoned to help a host, but the invader looked human and killed me. damn I suck

I find it very impressive that the husk of Gwyn you face is able to easily kick your ass at like 1% power.

>>175783245
his attacks are quick and relentless, it's like fighting a Dark Souls 3 boss but in Dark Souls 1

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>>175783209
Sometimes I just put this on repeat and do Caestus invasions.

>about to head back to the shrine
>about to touch the fire
>get invaded
>invader sees me then runs away and hides in the level in 'ambush'

cool

>>175783196
>wanting Old Welcome over No Way Fag or This One's Me
Re-evaluate your life decisions Anon.

>>175783325
That honestly sounds fun as shit

I swear the people defending being able to roll 50 miles without running out of stamina are the same guys defending DS1 PvP by saying "there's counter-backstabs, counter-counter backstabs and counter-counter-counter backstabs"

I agree it's become the meme thing to complain about but that doesn't change the fact that you can stop it doesn't mean it's not bad design.

>>175783382
I want both desu

>>175783330
go kick his ass then, geez

>SL25 invasions
>every host has at least 2 phantoms with havels and RKPGs
>cops guaranteed to show up immediately

>>175782997
It's easy to catch people who are mashing the button, but it's even easier to just dodge people forever.

>>175783196
It's already in though

>>175782704
>>175782587
>>175782446
Just use a long sword in one hand and your catalyst in the other.

>>175783625
This. Maybe infused with Crystal.

>>175783464
he ran away again

>>175782379
>infinite stamina
There is no such thing.

If a host tries running you use running attacks to kill them. If they mash roll then roll catch them until they die.

>>175783769

Isn't crystal infuse worse than just casting CMW on a raw ASS?

>>175783793
he's running out of estus, if he's on the run then you're clearly winning

>>175783480
>and they still get two-shotted by Vordt's twinkhammer

>>175783852
yes but sometimes you might be out of baja blast

also raw ass is old bag. The future is now old man

>>175780484
>Trying to tank Lightning Stake

Anybody who sees that animation and doesn't nope out is a retard. Even the secondary hitbox is gonna geek you for 500-600 damage.

>>175783430
You just make it sound like you're bad at the game or never played.

>>175783852
listen nigga, it's a sidearm. something you whip out when the moonlight greatsword isn't doing it for you.
sure you could waste an attunement slot and FP on crystal magic weapon that'll last you 45 seconds, but nobody is going to let you buff that shit unless you've run away first

>>175783793
If you just wanna leave, and the invader ran when offered one-on-one combat, don't feel bad about d/cing. As an invader, if a host offers to take me on in single combat, I take it every time.

>>175783480
If you want a fair fight, try duels. Invaders have no right to complain about anything, the tradeoff to forcibly invading someone else's game is that it's their turf, and they get to set their terms.

Is the lightning arrow OP or just a good spell?

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Holy shit Great Hammers are a fucking PAIN to play with.

This is like fighting Neo from the Matrix where I'm moving in slow motion while my opponents just dodge all my attacks.

I'm going back to my Dexfag build. This is absurd. You will never know true pain and humiliation until you fight a dagger user with a greathammer. Fuck my life.

>>175784147
>the tradeoff to forcibly invading someone else's game is that it's their turf, and they get to set their terms.
Where the fuck did all these snakes come from? They talk as if you're breaking into their house and committing real life crime

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>>175783176
>Post webms.

Haha look the host died, I totally outskilled him. Fogrunning is balanced because hosts are dumb everyone, you can all go home now.

>>175784324
Just /v/-tier trolling.

>>175784005
That was a Sunlight Spear actually, so it would've been even easier to dodge than a Stake.

Spears of the Church should have been summoned as orange phantoms. Everything else summoned by Judicators are

>>175783851
>There is no such thing.
Yes there is stupid, favor toggling has been a thing since launch. Start a sprint, open up your menu, and mash A on the ring of favor. It's the same as fast heals with SPR, only for stamina. Go be a newfag somewhere else.

>>175784443
hm. yeh that wouldve made too much sense though

>>175784209
get ledos and get good

>>175784351
You want it changed? Go complain on Reddit and hope it gets nerfed.

>>175783480
run behind enemies, throw poo at them, use spells, kukris and ranged weapons, run next to ledges and holes for the occasional retard that just falls off. Get a hit in, run away, repeat.
Be as much of an ass as you can. If you can't win at least youll have a fun.

>>175783382
>getting from a npc invader
you know who

>>175784202
good dmg/fp efficient

>>175784351
You are the whingiest of reds.

>>175784395
it's true though, there's nothing but the threat of fanmail stopping you from fighting tooth and nail to protect your ember

>>175784475
Thank you. I wasn't sure it worked like this

Now I can take this to REDDIT for up votes.

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>>175784536
Ooooh gee! Once again, we've got another webm that PROVES invasions are well balanced! Remember, the invader always has a shot since the host might just fucking kill themselves! Haha everyone who disagrees should go to reddit, as long as the host has suicide as an option invasions are completely fine! The only reason to invade as a red is to spectate the host's mistakes after all, right?

>>175784418
That's even worse. Sunlight Spear in direct melee is almost a guaranteed 1000 damage instakill to anybody dumb enough to get hit by it.

did something happen? I had to duel 2 fucking cheaters today, and before this I have never encountered a single cheater.

>>175784641
stop complaining and deeeal with it anon!

>>175784683
>invasions are well balanced!
You want a fair balanced fight them go to the arena you autist.

>>175784209
Massive weapons are mostly about having numerical advantages and either hoping the other guy isn't good enough to play around your limitations, or hoping for a dice roll win from a trade. People will say you need to git gud to win with stupidly slow weapons - That's a meme. Stupidly slow weapons don't give you the options to outplay stuff, so there's a hard ceiling to how gud you can git with them.

>>175784810
rng

>>175784683
Are you all right anon? Do you... do you want a hug?

>>175784683
>being this angry at a video game

Im too poor to play online and feed myself time to end it all

>>175784859
fair =/= balanced

There's a difference between a handicap and a win button. I'd go no-estus if it meant locking the fog door.

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>>175782259
IT FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN
What sort of mentality do these prissy fuckbois have, that they're too good to gank people in a fucking invasion covenant?
I don't fucking understand it at all, its a fucking invasion covenant if you want to duel go to dedicated dueling arena. Why would you not help a fellow aldrich bro out?

Is it possible to change a character's name when you respec their appearance?

>>175784020
Would a crystal estoc work?

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>>175784897
Yes.

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>Poison kukris are cut content
>The NPC with the spider shield uses them

>>175784897
that's more of a general thing

>>175784908
>being this angry about a 4chan post

>>175785024
Not without Collector's Edition

>>175784929
>he needs good internet to have fun

What r u a casul?

>>175784959
You want a fair balanced fight with no fog door? Go to the

ARENA
R
E
N
A

>>175785095
I'm actually happy poison bundles aren't a thing at least.

>>175785095
It's a good thing both kukris and poison knives are useless then, eh?

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splish splash
flip flop
splosh splish

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>>175784978
just run in and fuck shit up as best you can anon

dont fight the loss of your faith in humanity. hate makes you strong. Let it flow through you

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>Running Sharp AGS at 40/40
>Co-op with some guy
>Invaded by mad dark spirit Worthless Ash!
>The guy comes up and starts attacking the host
>As the host runs, I land one single hit on him
>999 damage
>Mad dark spirit Worthless Ash has died

>>175785194
>It's okay for something to be fucked if there's something else you can go do instead!
Are you seriously such a host-apologist that you think bossfogging is a good game mechanic?

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>>175785027
Crystal Mail breaker sounds like it should be garbage but is actually pretty good early on.

>>175784978
>>175782259
Back off and let them 1v1.

It's not fun for me to 2v1 unless we just killed the host phantoms so i normally let the host 1v1 if we catch him alone

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So how's this thing?

>>175785531
watching that in slomo makes it look wonky

that timing tho

>>175785036
*pokes alva's eye with a flower through his helmet slits*

>>175785667
Bad for invasions, kinda decent for duels but the stamina drain for the weapon art is way too high.

>>175785667
Fun but not a fantastic weapon compared to other daggers.
The WA is so fucking cool

>>175785667
You like gimmicks, friend?

So how do you pyromance in a 1 on 1 fight?
What pyromancies can turn the tide in your favor?

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Is she /ourgirl/, /dsg/?

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>>175785417

>>175785531
how much dmg do you do agaisnt someone turtling?

>>175777451
it's all ogre now

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>>175785432
I'm an invader who doesn't cry about invasons unlike most of dsg.

I don't come to dsg to cry about getting fucked by gank squads and I'm not autistic enough to complain that i cant theoretically win 100% of invasions.

If you want a fair fight then go to the arena you faggot.

>>175785575
They're not even trying to 1v1, I tried even running away from the host and the other guy just kept backing off while the host chased me. He was literally just waiting for me to lose.

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I can't find time to play Ringed City DLC because P5 is too good

>>175785813
They're not slits, just grooves
It's a single solid hunk of metal
He has no actual head

>>175785875
you mean /ourtrap/ ?

>>175785937
oh fuck off one shot mages and greatbow gravity users arent invaders they're subhumans

>>175785856
Any of the storms and mists.

>>175785875
/ourgirl(male)/

>>175785937
>literal sissy mage on ps4 with obscuring ring oneshots
you have no reason to complain, invading on ps4 is literal cakewalk, even with melee builds
try that on pc though, see how it works

>>175785298
>implying
Building up 2 bars at once makes people panic, I often use a poison bandit knife or katana and people make stupid mistakes even if I don't proc the effects. Poison kukris would be a great addition to that playstyle. Even if I didn't end up using them it'd be nice if they were usable since they're already in the game.

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>>175786103
Because it makes you feel like as if you had a social life you empty fuck?

Started as a knight, just beat vordt
i'm tired of this straight sword already, what weapon(s) should i rush to?

>>175785937
>Playing a game
>One room literally just crashes the game
>"haha just don't use that room, why fix it? after all, any criticism is autistic"

I specifically don't want a fair fight retard, and I absolutely love trashing ganksquads; I actually get up in their face and do it solo instead of letting another red take the heat for me, like you do :^)

What I want is to keep the host's handicap and remove their win button. Name one reason why it should stay, you seem pretty keen on keeping it for someone who's just an "invader".

>>175786103
I can't find time to play Persona 5 because I don't want to fail my classes. So its Dark Souls 3 for 2 more weeks

>>175786320
Because why the fuck should a host have to deal with a fag like you?

>>175786320
So you basically just want the game to hold your hand. Got it.

>>175786181
>>175786239
If you are so much better then why are you complaining about invasons or defending the shitter who is?

And do you honestly think everyone IJS magically better at the game if they play on a pc lol?

>>175786320
>name one reason why world peace shouldn't exist

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>>175785887
>how much dmg do you do agaisnt someone turtling?
I'm like lv40 and it's +5. You don't use Shieldsplitter against shields anyway, you use it to catch rolls or whiff punish. It's a low investment early game option that isn't a straightsword, I mean the straightsword would be better, but everyone is sick of straightswords by now right?

>>175786532
>"My world, my rules!"

>>175786605
t. host

>>175786320
The host isn't there to be your personal play thing you autist.

If you want a fight to the death in steel cage then go to the fucking ARENA you damn autist

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>struggle against 3p downscaled password squad for 33 mins
>get invaded immediately afterwards
>kill red in less than 30 seconds
Probably because I had more HP meant that I could afford to make mistakes. Embered health a shit. They should've stuck with either you're hollowed or not, better yet bring back the humanity system minus infinite humanity use.

>>175786685
I'm going to set up ganksquads right in front of the bossfog, just for you

>>175786628
>name one reason why world peace shouldn't exist
So then you fully, completely, utterly, and unconditionally concede that bossfogging needs to be fixed?

Remember: the reds who're taking heat for you are reds like me. I'm the reason you can win invasions :^)

>>175786795
>The host isn't there to be your personal play thing you autist.
>"My world, my rules!"

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>>175786628
Because even without your gimmick oneshot builds i still hold a 60~65% winrate at sl120 invasions.

And yes, everyone that plays on pc is CERTAINLY better. One of PS4's most recent tournaments banned PS4Pro users because they play at a better framerate and therefore have a better understanding of the game. PS4 is full of autist mouthbreathers who can't traverse a fucking level on their own.

>>175786945
Thanks for helping me prove my point anon, I was considering making a thief and just creating a compilation where I flawlessly run away from a full room of invaders at pontiff's.

>>175784529
I'm using ledo's.

I guess I just suck with slow weapons. This is just a painful experience.

>>175784883
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with this.

Only an idiot is going to get hit by a greathammer or trade into my hyper armor. That shit just won't work on a good player.

I'm going back to my DEX build.

The arena is cancer.

>>175786954
I don't need autist like you to win.

It doesnt matter if it's a retard like you or an npc.

You need to stop pretending like this game is competitive. Invading is for fun so try to have fun and stop pretending like you're good at the game or like being good at this game matters.

>>175786685
>>175786954
>"My invasion, my rules!"

>>175787102
All the better to make you, yes, you specifically, cry anon.

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Are there any metallic gloves that don't roll up the sleeves on the Deacon's Robes? I'm digging my look so far but I need some sort of armored gauntlets to complete the look and when the sleeves are rolled up it's just not the same. It kills my /fa/ boner to come so close to a combination of look and gameplay that I really like just to fall short due to some shenaniganry like rolled up sleeves. Closest thing I've got are the Iron Bracelets, but I'd like to avoid uncovered hands if at all possible.

>>175786453
>tfw I'm 5 weeks out from a week vacation from my wagecuck life so I can finally play P5
I'm excited. Can't wait. I'll finally get to play BB too, so there's that.

>>175787074
>everyone that plays on pc is CERTAINLY better.

Lol are you retarded?

>>175787318
>I'm totally fine with host having 30% more HP
>I'm totally fine with host having double estus
>I'm totally fine with host having a whole ganksquad
>ask for bossfog fix
>"Y-you're imposing too many rules!"

really adjectives the noun

>>175787343
But it won't anon, I just told you I'm gonna run around as a host to make a point anyway.

>>175787548
Good. Maybe you'll learn to relax and have fun in the game, finally.

>>175787313
>stop pretending like you're good at the game or like being good at this game matters

He's done it everyone! The very same CSS anon, who just a thread ago was calling people shitters, has now done a full loop and you shouldn't worry about skill! What an amazing metamorphosis!

>>175787481
No, just stating FACTS. I play on both platforms and PC players are WAY BETTER than PS4 players. There's no room for discussion, sonypony, I'm better than you, I have way more playtime than you and I play on both platforms, you have no arguments except guesswork and judging by the last high level tournament hosted on ps4, we can guess who's better when a dude with an UGS makes it to fucking grand finals.

https://clips.twitch
.tv/SleepyCallousMarjoramHotPokket

>Decide to make a new character who is different from my tank with ledos hammer
>Make a pure sorcerer
>Can no longer win anything
Feels bad man

>>175787780
You are a shitter if you are complaining about invasons.

>>175787851
>, I'm better than you, I have way more playtime than you

You have no idea of my play time or if you're better than me.

>>175787851
> we can guess who's better when a dude with an UGS makes it to fucking grand finals
Not really surprising, the meta has been poise hyperarmor weapons for a while now.

tensions seem high today

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>>175787670
I think the problem you're ignoring is that no one wants to play handicapped using a broken system. People are invading to have fun with others in a MULTIPLAYER game, not to be punching bag to appease another's gaming experience.

>>175788058
Wrong. They're still slow and easy to punish. With a no regen rule in tournaments you can poke them for free out of footsies with a spear/rapier and just defend yourself. PS4 players just CAN'T do it because the frame rate doesn't allow them to. It's really sad.

>>175788040
Judging by your shitty oneshot twink I'd put it between 400~500 hours at best.

I just won an invasion ama.

I want to use a spear/polearm to get through the early game
Which is >funnest?

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*barks your path*

>>175788243
how did you do it

what's the lore speculation wrt dark firelink and the idea that the starting firelink area is in the future?

i'm playing through the game again and just listened to greirat when you first meet him where he infers that you must be unkindled because of "the bell". assuming this means the bell at the start of the game, does this make the starting firelink and the high wall take place in the same timespan? if this is the case then why does the darksign not appear in the sky at starting firelink later on in the game?

>>175788040
>anyone who complains about things is bad!
>but whenever an anon points out that I'm bad, skill doesn't matter!
>nevermind the fact that other anons are literally carrying me through invasions!

>>175788268
*trivializes with Black Knight Shield*

>>175787548
>>175786320
Are you seriously asking that host not be allowed to enter the boss gate unless they prove themself worthy in your eyes?

How retarded can you be? Do you understand how imbalanced that would be?

>>175788126
>autistic apologist who's defending invasions with a gimmick build
>raging anon waging consolewars using gameplay hours and twitch to ""prove"" it
Just shitposting as usual, except there are at least two autists at each other's throats over a imbalanced video game.

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>>175785324
*rolls*

>>175788058
>grand finals
what is this and where do i watch it?

>>175788169
And yet people keep doing it.
Be realistic anon, you're not going to see an overhaul of how invasions work from the ground up. Bitching about it serves no purpose other than stirring the shit. Can't you just try to enjoy it for what it is instead of spending hours of everyone's time making futile arguments that no dev will ever even know exist?

>>175788246
red hilted halberd

>>175788292
Hornet ring ez pz gg no re

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>>175788235
>PS4 players just CAN'T do it because the frame rate doesn't allow them to.
It makes that much of a difference? I poke str weapons on Xb1 all the time, is it substantially safer on PC? Can't you just throw a knife, or is that not tourney legal either? Not the person you're replying to.

>>175787472
Bloodborne is great, you're going to have a blast.

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being able to hit people in the boss fog door was the best thing implemented in dark souls 2 y/n?

>>175787851
we're talking about invasions here lil pcuck
go post about your epic ''competitive'' (lol) duels on reddit
I know that pcucks can't even play the game and have to stay in their little safe space arenas and fight clubs because their game is infested with hackers but at least try to stick to the topic at hand

>>175788243
can you impregnate my wife

i want to create a new generation filled with master invaders so that one day maybe hosts will be btfo btw

>>175788428
I didn't say I seriously wanted a lock, obviously a red could just invade then chameleon if that were the case. However, things like backstabbing people out of the fog need to come back for sure, on top of some stamina changes too probably.

>>175788617
probably, yeah.

>>175785887
I didn't have any buffs or anything though. Standard unbuffed 40/40 Sharp Astora Greatsword. I didn't combo him, literally one single hit took him out.

He must have had the Bloodring and/or the Calamity Ring on or something.

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I was wondering if this would work. It's surprisingly hard to get Gael to kill the Ringed Knight, though, since they never target each other. And unfortunately, the Ringed Knight can't hit Gael, and Shira doesn't spawn during the boss fight.

>>175788617
good job one shotting that obvious new player

i'm sure he didn't run because he knew he couldn't kill you

>>175788604
Yes it does. It's almost a different game altogether. You can throw knives, it is allowed by rules, but you just won't swing an ultra unless you're in range because you need to force a reaction so you don't become punish fodder.

>>175788617

It was already in DaS1.

>>175788617
It wasn't implemented in shit souls 2 dumb cuck this was already a thing in DaS

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>>175788545
>Be realistic anon, you're not going to see an overhaul of how invasions work from the ground up. Bitching about it serves no purpose other than stirring the shit. Can't you just try to enjoy it for what it is instead of spending hours of everyone's time making futile arguments that no dev will ever even know exist?
I am. Just finished a few of them today before I closed out. Invasions are shit and the truth of the matter is, FROM is unlikely to try to fix what's left of ds3 since their last attempt barely did anything other than nerf seeds. But I'm still invading with the mindset that it's walk-or-fuck and everything else about the game is probably worth spending time over. Speculating fixes and claiming it's not a problem are wasting your time just like browsing 4chan or any timekilling hobby for the matter.

>can be invaded while not embered
>invasions are no longer weighted towards gank squads, solo players can be invaded just as much
game fixed

>>175788828
thanks buddy
i made sure to send him a dick pick on steam chat afterwards

>>175788874
>>175788887
the timing was waaay too strict and if you were 5 steps behind you would never make it.

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>>175788235
>Judging by your shitty oneshot twink I'd put it between 400~500 hours at best

So you're just guessing then? You also don't know if you can play better than me.

And btw I'm not clicking your shitter twitch channel or subbing or donating. I hope you understand I'm baiting you and I'm going to embarrass you if you want mw to prove any pvp related shit.

>>175788317
I've won tons of invasons solo but they are boring. Here's a solo. one just for you bb.

I just dont understand if you guys are really as good as you say you are then why on earth are you complaining about invasons or defending people who complain about them.

It's so easy to win most invasions

>>175788604
Shit, not even the right webm. Meant to post >>175781549

>>175788828
>already beat the dragon
>already going for dragonslayer
>higher level than invader

no excuses

>>175787472
iron bracelets only

>>175788243
How? Dsg tells me it's impossible.

>>175789064
>higher level than invader
>dies to 1 back stab from full hp

hm...