/stsg/ - Starsector General

>>175742987
op is a faggot

BLACKROCK FUCKING WHEN

>>175743182
When it is done.

>>175743289
when

>>175742987
we really should compile an OP

>link to site
>link to mods forum
>its mount and blade in space
>good mods like 4x features come with 8.1 in a few days/weeks

>>175743319
>good mods like 4x features come with 8.1 in a few days/weeks
months you moron, months

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I finally finished the tutorial bit without losing all my supplies.
What are noob-friendly* things I can do early on to learn the ropes?

* with or without combat, I don't care

>>175743308
When hell freezes over if you keep asking like that.

>tfw the russians are more reliable on cracking this than random anons posting monster girl gamu
Feels gr8 desu

>>175743571
cracking what?

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>>175743434
Industry is a meme.
Its only make more cash and cash is easy to come anyway.

>>175743595
Your head.

>>175743641
Might as well not pick any skills because the game is so easy.

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first for bonus situation.

>>175743571
Cracking it yourself takes like 2 minutes

>>175743721
DR-sama will come and make the game hard again soon.

>find mora early into new run
>don't have fighter mods because no shopping run
What factions uses a lot of fighters?

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>>175743641
>He isn't a long-distance Salvage fleet

Typical tritach fagets

>>175743319
There's not much point. I can't see the generals lasting that long. It's only picked up again because of the recent update.
The game, even with mods, doesn't quite have the staying power of a finished game like m&b.

Maybe another couple of weeks and posting rate will drop to low to even justify a general. Might have to merge with another.

>>175744357
those frig killers are fucking beasts

>>175744357
Where did you get those fucking centurions? I never see them for sale anywhere and pirates don't use them.

>>175744463
I think I got one of them at either Jangala or an independent military station

I'm 100% certain the first one (Screaming Firehawk) was a salvage find

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>>175744357
Only salvage run.
Do you know how hard was to get some fighters for these condors?

>>175744546
>cheating

>>175744606
?
How exactly?

>>175744546
>All those thirsty ships with that little fuel storage

It must be terrifying

>>175744679
You are above level 40, that is cheating.

>>175744685
I only find 2 tankers and only salvage run so its hard.
>>175744720
Yes I change some settings.
I have also 20 non used skill points. So Its like I am level 22.

>>175743641
Just gimme some suggestions

>>175743434
>>175745068
Buy tanker keep frigate or two and take mission to scan derelicts.
Easy money.

>>175745068
max out the first 3 industry skills
kill pirates
salvage ships
repeat

>>175744426
Yup

Railgun/Assault gun and they churn frigates to pieces

The vulcan guns on the ass are a bit useless as they can only shoot off to the flanks, so they're only good for shooting fighters/missiles that aren't going after it

>he doesn't name his ships

What are you, gay?

Electronic Warfare is a seriously OP skill.

Almost every battle, the enemy's weapon range is reduced by at least 15%.

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>>175746234
Show us your names anon, are they as edgy as mine?

>>175746660
edgy but would be good if you had 4 battleships

How the fuck am I meant to raise Neutrino rep when they never offer any fucking Neutrino quests and they give fuckall for rep for ai cores? Fuck this garbage mod.

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>>175746234
I dunno they are randomly generated.
Don't ask about the Eagle.

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Can I get rid of a commision? Will it improve relations with other factions? Also r8 my fleet, it's been decimating everything I've come across and I want to get some other factions' ships to make some change.

>>175747000
what's going on with that eagle senpai? pd lasers?

Which 0.8 mods are worth installing? Already narrowed the choice to Diable, Neutrino, Shadowyards, Outer Rim and Raccoon's Arms ?.

>>175747374
>Can I get rid of a commision?
yes, just drop your standing with that faction below neutral
>Will it improve relations with other factions?
no. If you want to have a commision and have good standing with other factions just give them a ton of AI cores. this is specially effective if you´re a Tri-kike, because every other faction has a higher bonus in relations for AI cores. 25 gammas, 1 beta and 1 alpha should put your standing with Hegemony from hostile to cooperative in one go

For people asking how to get my conquest speedy speed boy build.
It was done in 0.72 build. Where augmented engines gave top speed. The character was nearly maxed out in both combat skills and technology which let me squeeze out all the speed, op points and venting and capacity.
Secondly there was no usage of console, or safety overrides.
The only thing used that wasn't standard to the game was the "maximum ordnance" from the Star sector plus mod. Which gave extra OP points that I spent in capacitors.
Combined with the skill that gives you zero flux at higher flux % it let me have top speed while still firing.

With speed being nerfed and all now, I am not sure you can get the conquest to such speeds anymore.

>>175747601
I've been giving the tri-kikes a fuck ton of cores because of the 300% bounty bonus but I've only gotten from -50 relation to like -35

>>175747401
people always underestimate PD lasers, PD lasers + adv optics is a classic move that makes you fairly immune to annoying shit

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Posting these because they should always be posted.
Anyway, what do you guys use as your flagship? I'm using the hammerhead with unstable injector right now but want to upgrade to something with more firepower potential.

>stupid fucking retarded braindead fucking AI just sits back and does nothing
jesus fucking christ

>>175747727
Of course, they have the lowest bonus. Honestly I gave most of my cores to independent because they have a 200% for bounty and 100% for relations and their ports have at one point or another every ship you need. then when I maxed their relations I started with Hegemony because muh markets
that 100%+ bonus from Tri doesn´t mean much if you have such a small amount of markets to waste your money in

>>175747847
My missile cruiser does this way too fucking much.
>Can't really do much with onslaught because other fleet's ships are fast as fuck
>whatever let the missiles handle it
>cruiser hangs back occasionally firing a salamander
>does fucking nothing else
>control it manually
>destroy enemy fleet singlehandedly

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Also how the heck do you play as Diable? Their ships just seem dogshite.

>>175743434
go bounty hunting with a skeleton fleet
Early ones can be basicaly soloed by a wolf, so leave teh "bigger" ships in storage somewhere, kill a few, buy supplies so you can upkeep your flleet for longer survey expeditions from which esll teh survey data to tri-tach and now you have your first few hundred grands to invenst in your future.

>>175747830
Falcon isn't bad but its more 'do not to close' combatant.
Aurora is great as its fast and have decent firepower.

>>175747847
Use Eliminate and Full Assault, or use your own flagship's position to give them confidence. AI's movements are heavily influenced by allied ship's movements.

>>175747847
Aggressive or reckless officers.

>>175748536
Is there a way to hire unlimited officers? The ships without an officer act like complete retards.

>>175748585
Yes there is.

>>175748619
Nice.

>>175748648
Just edit settings.
"baseNumOfficers":4;
change 4 for anything you want from 5 to 22 range

>>175748768
5 to 22?

>>175748061
this

>>175748845
You can have max 30 ships.
skills can give you plus 8 officers
so 22 is enough as you will have some tankers and cargo haulers

>>175748936
Civilian officers when

>>175749054
Never.
Probably.
Even if it would make perfect sense to hire master engineer, master surveyor or master salvager.

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I go on a bounty hunt far from the inhabited cluster with about 2/3 fuel, I think that I would just salvage the fuel need to go to the 2nd bounty which was close to the inhabited cluster.

I get the, kill everyone and get just 37 fuel and no salvage cloud. I go as far as I can and use the Distress Signal to call for help. after 1-2 days I get a signal on the radar and pic related shows up.

I have a Medusa, 2 Hammerhead, 1 Wolf and a Drone tender...

>>175749227
>master civilian officer in salvaging and surveying
>this invalidates the entire industry tree for the player
Yeah not gonna happen.

Those skills are fairly useless at this point anyway. Money isn't exactly hard to come by.

>>175749464
What did we learn?

>>175749505
Do not give them the same level of skill like the player have but why I can not hire the guy who let me survey 50% hostile planets?
Also you can boost your forces by having full combat officers why not having non combat ones that boost civilian ships abilities?

>>175749464
Starsector in a nutshell.

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>>175749464
That's why you equip Hardened Subsystems on every single combat viable ship. Every single one.

>>175749706
ah, the AIDS strategy

>>175750030
>how dare you win against overwhelming odds you scrub

>>175744606
>cheating
>in a single player game
>and he's not even using the console commands mod

what are you, a catholic?

>>175750343
You don't get to brag when you don't play by the rules :^)

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>>175749562
>>175749659
>>175749706
Holy shit! I used Transverse jump to get out of the system. At the same time large Scavenger fleet goes into the system to look for me because of the Distress signal. We hunt down 3 pirate fleets, I fill my cargo hold with fuel and suplies.

Haven't lost a single ship.

Every single fucking time I investigate a distress signal there's nothing fucking there.

Is it because it was too far away and the event ended, or because my sensors suck and I can't find them?

>>175750653
Unless you were like two months late then there's definitely something there.

>>175750653
are you going to the innermost jump point in the system?

Does anyone know how to PREVENT weapon covers from appearing over empty weapon slots? Those things look so ugly I'd rather have the exposed weapon slots instead.

>>175750767
No I pretty much sustain burn over there the moment it pops up

>>175750902
I looked at all of the jump points + the star

>>175751291
dunno what to tell you then, you should be running into whoever put the signal out

help me

>>175751203
Please help

Is it possible for items/ships to disappear from a station if it is owned by a faction that is hostile toward you?

>>175752616
don't think you can.

>>175753025
Why do you say that? Maybe there's a way to make the cover graphics invisible.

>>175752857
no

>>175751203
Replace every weapons cover sprite with a 1x1 pixel transparent png

>>175753235
>starsector-core\graphics\weapons\covers
Didn't think they were this easily available or that there were so few graphics for them. Let's see if this works.

>>175753346
Yeah now you understand why everyone mods this game

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>>175753235
>>175753346
>>175753479
Much better.

>>175747830
this should be in the op description too

>>175754587
That guide still needs a lot of work because it doesn't explain anything about most of the weapons to the people who would actually benefit from it.

I have 4.7 mil in the bank and am bored of going after bounties and going after remnant shit. What do I do now to make money/get new ships and loot.

>>175754227
Otherwise I believe the covers are a setting in the hull_style.json in data/config

>>175754992
Start attacking factions of course.

>>175755050
What faction do I attack to get some OP ships to recover.

>>175755119
All of them

>>175755119
tritac obviously

>>175747565
All of those except neutrino

Diable is questionable and almost on the level of neutrino with completely out of place space mechs instead of spaceships

Most of the weapons in these mods, especially neutrino and diable, could use some rebalancing / outright removal. Especially since the AI doesn't buy and use them. Fighting any mod fleets from diable, neutrino, or shadowyards with vanilla stuff, is like fighting godmoded OC donut steel mary sues.

>>175755561
You never playes any of these mods did you?

>>175755561
>fighting ships that use wanzers

jesus fucking christ

>>175747565
I have all of them installed.

>>175754227
what exactly you try to do ?
No visible weapons mod?

>>175755561
You have no idea what you're talking about. Shadowyards especially is considered rather weak compared to Vanilla.

>>175755561
how are diable ships even supposed to be used? the dreadnought seems weak even due to flux

>>175756072
That's their balance paradigm: All their ships are squishy with low sustained DPS weapons. They rely on their wings to create deadly openings and increase their normal ships' survivability.

>>175756250
so that's why the dreadnought seems so shit even compared to a onslaught

>>175756509
yeah, you're meant to outmaneuver / overwhelm your enemy with fighter wings while attacking targets of opportunity with the ships themselves.

they're strong if used right, but they're not mary sue tier like the other guy said. the only mary sue mods are approlight and templars

>>175756728
i hate how people use that term nowadays. approlight is essence of mary sue, templars is not

So does anyone know how economies and base levels work? When I go to a level 5 military base for my faction, it has fuck all ships there, when I go somewhere else they have loads of ships.
How do I increase this level and how do I increase how many shops my faction has?

Any decent composition for fleet that us no shields?

>>175757107
Agreed. Templars are very strong if fought like a regular faction, but they also have steep drawbacks and are always outnumbered.

>>175757107
mary sue as in "my OC faction is stupidly powerful"

templars are that way by design, as a boss faction. I get it

>>175757339
Size means better stuff. The size cant be changed.

Stability affects prices. It can be changed by events like famines, smuggling, import/export, but some stations just tend to have higher stability no matter what happens. For example, Tritac stations in Hybrasil always seem to have 7 while Corvus has 5.

The economy is pretty barebones, and the tariffs make trade not worth it.

>>175757594
You're still wrong.

>>175757707
Stability is also the main factor that determine what kind of ships and weapons are available for sale, as well as how well stocked is the black market. And drives the size and variants of the patrols.

>>175757707
Fugg. So I can't increase the amount of stock a station will have?
Oh well hopefully that gets worked on. It would really increase the dynamics of the systems.

asking again because no answer

has anyone played the newish factions? outer rim alliance and silent armada?

>>175757594
The difference is that approlight has a literal author self insert in it while its pretty safe to say the Templar authors arent fundamentalist christians who want to slaughter everyone.

>>175758092
ORA ships are pretty fun and out there, at least back when I played them a bit before .8 hit. Only energy mounts on the majority of them with the occasional missile/energy combo slot, and an always-active anti-beam field that affects you too, and they're designed around broadside barrage tactics.

The art design itself is a little odd but in a neat way. I had a lot of luck outfitting them with the ammo-based shadowyards energy weapons and an extended magazines mod.

Any mod that uncaps the level cap?

>>175759231
go to folder, search for config/setting, ctrl f max player level, set to 96

>>175758863
thanks mate. that seems nice

I really dig the concept behind silent armada ship but honestly I can't the "hurr durr boats in spess" design

jesus fucking christ moras and fighters are obnoxiously overpowered

how the fuck did that retard release this update in this state

>>175759356
Does it exponentially increase the xp too?

>>175759497
they are fine if you take their damper fields.

>>175759497
Because people kept whining Carriers and Fighters were underpowered to the point of worthlessness. Now they aren't anymore.

>>175759628
I think it'll get increasingly grindy overtime

>>175759497
I think just the mora itself needs to have the damper field removed and replaced with something else

>>175759827
Alright good, I don't want it to be too cheaty.

>>175759898
realistically you will never hit 96 unless you stick with one character with save transfer, you can increase xp gain too, it's a few lines below the player lvl

I don't think having a higher limit is cheaty at all considering how much effort is needed to get those lvls

q. is it possible to create a statsbar that keeps track of player actions?

I've been thinking about a notoriety system and a couple extra ideas.

Basically as you grow big, do crazier stuff, explore the edges of the sector or amass a massive fleet you start getting more notorious and people start checking on you. the more notorious you are the more your actions indirectly affect relations with third parties so it becomes more difficult to do shadier stuff or play both sides.

Past a certain point you are basically famous and you have to lay low for a while for people to forget about you, and hostiles and pirates may try to hunt you down

I'd be very simply to implements if the game can keep check of a simple 0-100 points bar

>>175759642
>>175759697
>>175759845
fighter deployments need to run out like 5 times as fast, literally

>>175759845
mora has ridiculous armor, why not go the legion route and give it burn drive

>>175760323
That too.
Now they are unlimited fighters with unlimited missiles.

>>175760094
You could just track it via a new hidden faction like the REDACTED's relations bar.

>>175760364
That is actually not bad idea.

I want YUGE fleets and battles

What do? I'm looking at the settings file but the most relevant entry I've found so far is the max amount of pirates

>>175760617
the red beacon remnant systems have tons of fleets in them, I just got out of a battle against 2 remnant ordos, just barely scrapped together the win.

my flagship was a slag heap with ~5% hull integrity left when it was over

>>175760520
that would indeed be a solution, but a lackluster one. seeing "you have lost one reputation with "norierity", now you are at 10/100 (suspicious)

something more personalized would be better. but that's definitely a possibility.

>>175760806
I don't want remnants, I want huuuuuge battles between the factions.

How to increase the sizes of fleets like "Hegemony detachment" and "lions guard"?

>Really wanna get a conquest now I have enough dosh and weapons to arm it
>It would mean signing up with Sindrian
>It would mean all my holdings in Jangala would have to me moved

fuck

>>175761329
Be friendly with the Independents and you can buy things from their yards without a commission. Conquests are fairly common.

>"zeroFluxEngineBoost":50
a demon inside me wants to up this number to 500

>>175761642
Tried that, stuck at 50/100, nothing seems to be pushing them past it

>>175761874
Bounties and AI cores should push them up. I THINK survey missions go up to 60 too.

>>175761820
it was fun for 20 seconds then it crashed

>>175762013
haven't met any indie that wants AI cores

bounties and foor shortages are the only thing that pushes them past 60 I think

>>175762541
Usually only military markets accept AI cores. There are only two indie ones: Maxios and that planet in Askonia.

>>175762447
you go to plaid if you reach a certain number and the game crashes, i think the hard limit is somewhere around 700 speed

>>175762796
huh. gotta check their dialogue options then

do pirate fucking shits accept ai cores too?

tldr what this game is about???

>>175763209
drink from your skull but in space

>>175763209
Nice head on your sholders but in cosmos

>>175763240
>>175763756
gotcha

>>175763209
less talking, more fighting but in space

>>175763209
you are in spess

you own a ship

you can do spess things swith your ship

vanilla has little content, bu tthere's a lot of mods

a big mod adds some 4x nation building elements

>>175748061

Diable ships are very specific in their roles. People complaining that the faction is OP mary sue are just running the Pandemonium loaded to the hilt with faction specific load-outs (which the AI, at least, used to use often as well.)

When trying to build a diable-specific fleet, you need to build the ships to their exact specific strengths while deploying copious amounts of defense. I find Wanzers to be far more effective at defense than assault.

Don't try and overcompensate a Diable ships weaknesses- play directly into them and make sure you have another ship to back up your weakness.

>>175760617
Find a pirate armada with a moral or two.

>>175764573
pirates have no morales

>>175744398
>a constant thread on /v/ for over a week
>3-4 threads on /vg/ with no signs of slowing down
>"t-there's no point guys no one wants a general anyway!"

Stop being retarded.

Fighters are generally underwhelming until you reach a critical mass, then after that point they're fucking amazing. Huge swarms of wasps eating PD attention while you have torpedo bombers and warthogs farting death at slow space boats is unstoppable barring massive dedicated anti-fighter and anti-missile ships.

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something something FLEET SUPERIORITY! something something

>>175764995
>that fuel situation
I hope you ordered your crew not to smoke

>>175764995
>4290 fuel
are you planning a jihad or something?

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>>175764995

>>175755561
Pffft where did this meme come from, all of the popular faction mods are perfectly fine balance wise. Ever tried a dual blaster SO medusa? Spamming sparks? It's vanilla that's fucked now.

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rate fleet

>>175757910
I'd love to see that too and maybe, eventually being able to build your own stations instead of just using derelict ones. I wish I could make splinter fleets on the main map too, as opposed to just your fleet, that would follow your main fleet and you could command it to keep it's distance or follow closely as an escort or even assign them to guard something.

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>>175765137

His fleet is not big enough for Jihad.

>>175765493
no

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one hit from this and it's all over

>>175765083
>>175765137
Hue.

I wish I could load ships with fuel and explosives and use them as huge torpedoes in battle.
>>175765493
>that eagle setup
>those hammerheads
>two carriers
>barely any long-range weapons
nigga why

>>175765642
Basically wanting an X3 in this game. Self made stations with production modules so you can make not buy your own ships. Resources production, proper economics.

>>175765757
>barely any long-range weapons
???

>>175765757
carries provide fodder and missile spam
beam eagles stop anything small from doing funny things and generally prevent vent dissipation
hammerheads... I actually haven't deploed them in a while, but they are armor killers together with the sunder. meant to step in after the brawlers killed enemy shields

only thing that has given me genuine trouble with this set up was an onslaught

>>175765834
I have those games and I've barely spent any time in any of them and I don't really know why... If that's what X3 is actually like then hell yes please.

Found a Legion with comp armor and unreliable subsystems. Worth recovering it if I have no skills pertaining to (D) ships?

>>175766209
X3 is what Star Citizen is promised to be. It's crowning achievement is the sense of Empire building from being a lowly solar cell pedlar, rising through the ranks of the military, or by being a pirate and amassing wealth, to eventually outfit a single self-sustaining station after buying 8-10 stations and linking them together to finally get passive income, then getting sick of the oppressive boots on your neck who tell you you can't sell space weed and space hookers so you move to an abandoned sector to house your station and become a multi biollionaire and then make more and more stations and eventually your own ship-producing station and fit out a fleet consisting of M1 Carriers that house your custom built and custom equiped fighters, M2 Battleships that destroy entire fleets, M7M missile frigates with 100km + range.

Fuck my dick is hard for some X3 right now. I hope they don't fuck up X4, it sounds like they learnt their lesson.

>>175766318
Why would you ever not recover it?

>dual devastator dominator

Vanilla doesn't get better than this

>>175766471
>x4
are they making one?

>>175766471
Also a big part of it is that nothing is really automatic. If you move your station you move it yourself with a massive semi-capital freighter that's like kilometers long that you can get out of and have your breath taken away by the scale, whenever you make a fleet you assign it to a wing or to a frigate or carrier, whatever has docks for it, and you choose it's mods and addons and armament, you can tailor every single ship to whatever you want, every station you make can be tailored to whatever you want and you can make massive 100+ station long production chains that go from mining to silicon wafer productions to making solar arrays or missiles or weapons to fit your fleet out, and all of it needs to be fed by agri stations that need solar arrays to fill solar power cells with.
Ugggh muh dick.

>>175765892
>=1000 range weapons on capital class ships. Preferably with hullmods that increase range.

Everything else is medium or short range.

>>175765936
IMO shields should be taken down from range, and then the frigates and fighters should close in with HE.

Although I don't use frigates at all, and only have sparks for anti-fighter/frigate duty. Paragon with beam weapons makes the game so easy...

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>>175766471
Well shit, next time I got a day off I know what I'm playing. Thanks bud.

>>175766496
Because I'm sitting in a fleet with a paragon and an astral that aren't (D)? Only reason I even consider recovering it is because I doubt I'll ever see one for sale.

>>175766692
No worries. Game is a massive dickbag if you don't have some mods though, stuff like station cruncher and M.A.R.S and others. Check out egosoft forums, the devs themselves release really good mods as DLC update thingies. But yeah definitely have a look around for some "essential" mods.
Also be prepared for a massive learning curve, you don't get the sense of immersion the game offers without being pretty complex.

>>175766658
Kilometer-long capital freighters? Shit dude, someone better have made a Battlefleet Gothic mod for this shit.

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time to take on that fully operational remnant battle-station

>>175766318
generally a firing capable ship is more important than a good ship. more dakka is what allows things like mudskippers to have some use in this game

>>175766682
>IMO shields should be taken down from range,

beams my friend. both my eagles have the 200 range officer and the range hullmod

my strat is pure offense. we target the big guns first. our only weakness seem to be really fast ships that drag me down halfways the map while the slower sips get attack by encroaching frigates because lol command points

>>175766914
Why do you have all that and a (D) Dominator?

>>175767024
that used to be my flagship way back, it does a man's job and it holds a special place in my heart.

>>175766846
Ahhh yeah, the learning curve, now I remember! I gave this game a shot back in trade school and that learning curve was NOT fun back then. I could definitely do that nowadays, especially since we got shitty tutorials on youtube if I get too dumb, but I wasn't about to spend hours learning vidya and electrical infrastructure at the same time.

>>175767090
And you left it for a Paragon?

Do remnant stations only orbit planets or can they sit wherever in the system?

>>175767162
I only take the paragon out when I need to (which I will now for the battlestation)

Guise how do I make money

Like

Loads of money

So if Industry is a meme then how the hell do you make mega millions in this game? Even with maintenance and fuel skills, profit margins for missions are razor thin after you buy the supplies and fuel needed to get there and back. AI cores? Do mission rewards start scaling up to ~500k at some point? I just don't see how you can make an appreciable amount of money without a steady supply of Class IV and V survey data.

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>>175766864
Yeah they're pretty fucking awesome to see in-game.
Some of the AGI/Earth ships remind me a lot of 40k stuff which I'm a big fan of so I pretty much always play them, though I hate their weapons.
(X stuff is in the bottom left of this pic.)

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>>175766953
You should try swapping those mortars for Hypervelocity drivers. They're fast and hard enough to damage frigates too, even without any HE, and the EMP is a nice bonus.

Pulse lasers are always good

>>175767310
This is how.

Kill a station

>>175767310
>go to far systems
>farm easy remnants for ai cores
>find planet surveys
and industry is not a meme

Guys I really love ballistic weapons. I've decided to do my first game as Hegemony because they're the big tanky gun shooty guys with minimal lasers. What are the good primary weapons for ballistics? I've been using mortars and heavy machine guns.

>>175767268
money scales directly with gameplay

by the time your fleet is big enough that basic system bounties aren't worth it you will start trading

eventually you will buy really big ships and do bounties and off sector surveys, which neet 150k on average, and really hard 200kplus bounties on end game.

you can either load of on supply and star doing sector and off sector surveys for dosh, do bounties or do a an extended off sector exploration hoping for lots of loot

>>175767310

ultimately it goes down to surveying and hunting REDACTED.

>>175767531
>surveying

>>175767531
How do I strat doing surveys then/

>>175767506
S T O R M N E E D L E R

>>175765697
That seems OP as shit

How feasible is a fleet with 3 astral carriers to basically swarm the enemy with fighters?

>>175767506
Mjolnir, hypervelocity, heavy mauler, railguns, needlers of all kinds. Mortar's not bad. Vulcans and flak for pd.

>>175768678
yes

>>175767753
>>175767820
depends.

you can get a good kickstart by doing in sector surveys (habitable worlds) that have 4 or 5 IV surveys. minimal fuel cost, arguably more supply cost. iirc when I surveyed the whole sector I ended up with 400k money (spending like a million in supply and earning a brute amount of 1.5 million).

the trick for off sector surveys is to go to mission post and get survey missions that go in the same direction. you can get a lot, I managed to get 4 at the same time. But for these, you WILL need tankers.

Then you max supply cargo and head off to these surveys. instead of just doing the mission, you survey the whole system and salvage anything for supply and fuel. and if you ahve time, the surrounding nebula.

so you return with 300k in mission money and 20-30 surveys that hopufully have multiple class IV. more than enough to cover losses.

by true end game the only thing that can sustain your fleet is REDACTED loot. 200kplus bounties start having ridiculous fleets (i had one with every capital and cruiser try tachion ship, my fleet simply ran out of CR by the time the paragon arrived)

>>175765493
You're only missing Miriam and Lal, then you have the full set.

>blasters AND a tach lance on a Sunder
Pick one. This half-and-half bullshit is gonna kill it's piddly flux pool.
Seriously, strip everything off except the lance then fit exactly 1 PD on the back and safety overrides. Fill the rest with vents.
Can't remember if you can fit aux thrusters on with a TL, but it'd be nice.

Make a dickship anon. Deus Vult.

>>175768678
Too viable, bordering on boring.

>>175765697
That's a kickass Pandemonium reskin, where'd you get it from?

>>175768791
>you can get a good kickstart by doing in sector surveys (habitable worlds) that have 4 or 5 IV surveys.
How? I'm not even seeing this option anywhere yet.

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>>175769024

I asked an Anon who was doing skins for fun last year to make me a couple of Islamic themed Pandemoniums and a Colossus for my Jihadi-themed run in Nexelerin. Too bad the Colossus' Omni Shield doesn't work when you use the Colossus skin, as it has working parts.

>>175769046
gotta invest in that Industry skilltree my boy

make sure to bring plenty of crew, heavy machinery, and supplies

V surveys sell for >200k

>>175768859
I haven't had problems with the sunder's getting out fluxed. officer is steady and keeps close while either me or the eagle eat shields

generally if the usnder or the hmmerheads get disabled, I am already loseing the fight. only loses i've had in the last 20 battles are my own ship because it's specially disigned to suicidally drop antimatter blasts and teleport out

>>175769046
sorry, meant to say habitable systems.

and if you aren't autistic like me, you can skip gas giants entirely. they never give you good survey class. volcanic worlds are almost guaranteed III and IV surveys because massive mineral deposits

>>175765493
>mora
0/10 kill yourself.

>lasher just flies straight into a sunder and gets rightfully blown up in two seconds
god I hate the retarded as fuck AI in this game

>>175769407
I had a condor but it kept dying all the time. it was either a mora or a hero and both are very powerful ships

>>175769429
>AI takes 10 minutes to chase a single wolf using 5 ships

are redacted fleets profitable or I have to keep to stations only

>>175769337
What if I don't have any skills on the industry tree?

>>175769720
then you better figure out how you can beat them super bounty fleets

alternatively, get a commission and start bullying luddic path

>hope to get some diable ships by attacking fleets
>WANZERS
>WANZERS
>WANZERS

remind me how this mod is not OP again

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What else can I edit to change sensor ranges and stuff?

>mod issue confirmed fixed over a week ago
>no rc20
Alex pls

>>175770236
Do you have beams? Do you have EMP weapons? Do you have rapid fire HE weapons? Do you have shielded Fighters?

>>175769719
they are extremely profitable

>>175769719
They drop quite a bit of supply, so if you have good answers to them they're profitable. Also you get commission bonus for killing them.

>>175770326
itll probably be out in a few weeks(tm)

>go to outer system
>like 10 scavenger fleets
>everyone's killing eachother

>>175770291
Make a hullmod that increases actual sensor strength. That change just adjust the ceiling.

>>175770362
i asked the first question faggot

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Is this the correct way to cruiser?

>>175770236
>remind me how this mod is not OP again
I don't have any problem dealing with them, probably because I have plenty of fighters of my own to deal with wanzers

>>175771090
lol no

>>175771050
Fair enough: It's not. You need the right tools to deal with them like you need the right tools to deal with any other faction. You don't go fight Tri-Tachyon without Kinetic weapons to deal with their shields or the Hegemony without big HE spike damage to break their armor.

>>175770236
Phase ships are probably stronger.

by god, a fully operational station fucking destroyed me

>>175770236
>goes to fight diable
>without PD and hitscan weapons out the asshole

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>tfw this mod is gonna get updated

>>175770236
poor baby not showing up to class with enough vanilla brand OP in his fleet?

>>175771969
what's this

>>175772072
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=977.0

>>175770993
Looks like a few of these already exist, so I'll just edit them.

Is it safe to turn this into a multiplier instead of a flat bonus?

>>175771969
Those are some awful names

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>>175772431

>>175771790
good god those fuckers are FAST

>>175772581
What's that commented out part?

It looks like it would do exactly what you're asking for

>>175771969
I have yet to mod this game because a lot of the mods look out of place with the vanilla shit, but those late expansion ships are making me crave those mcnuggies.

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Uh

>>175771969
Nice art design, fits in vanilla

>>175773573
>Held in Reserve


Hahaha oh fuck anon RIP you

>>175773737
That's because they're just parts of vanilla ships cut and glued together.

>>175774013
Better than nothing desuuuuu

Also what's the worst frigate and why is it the vigilance

>>175774915
I find Vigilance rather useless but then I give it double salamander and Ion beam.
Well it rather well support my D Lashers and Wolves when it do not decide to be blown by missiles or fighters.

>>175774915
>frigate capable of carrying 10 Reapers
>worst
yeah ok

>>175775106
>10

You mean 5

>>175775064
>Pilum.
>Unstable Injectors.
>Timid officer.
Enjoy all the missiles.

>>175775560
5 reapers, +75% hullmod, +1 from officer skill, 9 in total so he wasn't that far.

>>175776302
Actually the hullmod gives +100% now which nobody seems to have noticed

>>175776750
Oh, my bad, I stand corrected. 10 reapers it is.

can't beat a fully functional startship not matter what I do.

carriers are useless against them, aren't they

>>175777553
The shield-generating modules also have guardian PDs, and the station itself has about 8 spark wings.

You're better off with paragon spam.

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>>175773768
The didn't even field the onslaught, but because of the limit, I couldn't field both my paragon and astral at the same time. Lost the paragon while i was covering the retreat of my aurora.

>>175777805
I have d onslaught, dominator and doom on reserves back at corvus. perhaps a suicide run would be a good idea

>>175777767
do their missiles run out of amm=

fighters never run out right

>>175778464
fighters can simply re-arm at the base when they run out

so what do I do now that the tutorial just put me in Corvus?

>FPS literally hits the single digits with GraphicsLib

What a piece of shit.

>>175779079
Whatever you want. Scan X missions and surveys are quite profitable and can help finance your fleet in the early game.


>>175779272
Use the preset options so it fits your toaster.

>>175779079
did you not read the dialog that literally tells you what to do now that the tutorial put you in Corvus?

>>175779497
>>175779520
yeah but what do I do for the rest of the game.

>>175778464
Fighters run out, but resupply infinitely at the mothership, so a fighter is like having infinite ammo missiles that can maneuver into blindspots on the enemy.

Fighters would be a lot more balanced if their resource consumption were done better - like having their own squadron-level independent CR that depletes as they get blown up / use missiles, which is already kind of implemented kind of - if you blow the fighter up enough they deploy more slowly. They honestly should also have to use fuel, but I guess that comes with CR by default.

I would also have the carriers' CR act as a multiplier on the fighter CR, so if the carrier is half strength, the fighters have less CR too.

A more simulationist approach would be fuel, manpower, CR, and missiles.

Otherwise there is literally no reason to ever take a missile ship over a carrier. Especially since fighters have stuff like short range torpedoes etc. that basically give you 5000 range on your supposedly short range weapons, able to be deployed into vulnerable flanks of the enemy ship at high speed. It's no wonder they're OP as fuck right now.

Honestly if a fighter can fly a torpedo into a ship like that why can't I outfit my torpedo to do the same thing in the first place?

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>finish tutorial
>flying to corvus
>

:^)

>>175779608

One good objective to strive for is to explore the sector and find systems with warning beacons, the strongest you'll find is a Red beacon system, and inside there's arguably the strongest encounter in the game at the moment.

There, that's a goal to strive for.

help

>>175779671
>Honestly if a fighter can fly a torpedo into a ship like that why can't I outfit my torpedo to do the same thing in the first place?

I want torpedoes with shields and PD which launch guided missiles when they to medium-close range and explode bigly if they get close enough or touch the enemy and hell maybe even a booster guidance phase to start with.

>>175779497
Didn't help.

Like I said: what a piece of shit.

>>175779996
Then use the configuration files and disable all shaders entirely, it's the first option you see.

It'll (supposedly) get rid of everything GraphicsLib offers while still making other mods not shit themselves.

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I can see my house from here.

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>>175780128
You don't get it man. The game itself is a piece of shit and shits itself anytime there's a ton of action onscreen.

>>175779717
>he got the D

>>175780536
Be careful or you'll spawn the Java shill.

>>175780462
How to do this?

I can't stand how zoomed in I am on the campaign map

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Is there any better feeling?

>>175780536
Damn. I've no advice to give you then, anon. You're doomed.

>>175779717
Getting a dominator is like 1/10th of the actual price in having a dominator. The rest is actually equipping it and paying its fuel/supply costs.

http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=8726.300

I'm having a bit of trouble reallocating memory. I'm running Starsector 0.8 on Windows 10 64 bit, and when I follow the link in the original post:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
I download the 64 bit jre-7u79 and upon executing the downloaded installer I get a message saying:
"This software has already been installed on your computer. Would you like to reinstall it?"
"No" closes the program and "Yes" gives a pop-up menu that says "This action is only valid for products that are currently installed"
Attempting to edit the vmparams file stops the game from launching.
Fairly certain that I've misinterpreted something wrong, so if anyone is able to correct my dumb mistakes don't hold back.

all skills into fighters and use a astral or all combat skills and get a paragon???

>>175781571
>10 supplies a month
>10 supplies to deploy
No problem here

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fugg

>>175781764
The Leadership tree as a whole is better than the combat one so the answer is obvious.

>>175782571
my only objective is fun, not what is best

>>175782516
This is why fighting Luddic Path patrols is a bad idea.

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Guys what I am doing wrong?
I made mule-carrier version with ludd paintings graphic
made hull .csv file and variant one
modify faction file so it should be in fleet composition
put all of it into separate mod
it still do not spawn in shops or in luddic fleets and i can not use it in simulation
it shown and it variant in codex thu

>>175781746
I just used the default game jre and changed vmparams. Dunno if it worked but game at least start s.

how do I stop missions? I accidentally accepted a mission to get food but have no idea where to get food. Can I decline?

>>175782516
LUDDS BUDDS

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wewlads dat salvage afterwards

>>175783314
Doesn't work for me. If I try to edit the vmparams file the game just doesn't start.

>>175783356
Just don't do it, you'll lose some rep but it's not that much really.

Should I be ignoring the salvageable ships I find and just stripping them for parts, or should I salvage them, strip all the guns off, and then mothball them and sell them at a trading post?

Because I get the feeling the latter nets more.

Can you rename factions. Luddd would be cooler as some Deus vult crusader name and Empire>Hegemony, also I need a space union.

>>175783776
Salvaging gives supplies, fuel, metal, and occasionally weapons.

Mothballing gives weapons and barely any credits when selling the ships, I'm taking ranges of 100-500 credits.

Your choice.

>>175783243
if you want it to show up in game you need a data/world/factions file
if you want it to show up as an enemy in simulations a data/campaign file
if you want it to show up in missions you need a mission folder and files
and for all that you'd need to create a .variant file

>only enemies remaining are wolves
>turn on autopilot, alt tab and go watch a movie
sure is fun

>>175784465
>trusting the ai with my precious flagship

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>>175781232
>tfw use the dedicated ramming ship in Tore Up Plenty

>>175780867
>open settings.json with notepad + or something of the sort
>change devmode from false to true
>start game
>????
>ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>175783373
This kind of makes me sad there's no 3d game where you can roam around space assembling a junk fleet.

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>>175784323
thanks.
i make mistake in spelling but it looks like it work now.

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I need to se this

>>175786731
That's a slick colorscheme anon. Gonna do any more like that?

>>175787081
That's hot

>>175786731
>LP ship
>no Override
shake my head

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>>175787204
Some versions for both Luddist(green and green and red) and maybe for pirates(RED and Black).
Either variants of existing ones or small modifications.
If you have any idea for some low tech variants of existing ships you are welcome.
I was thinking on making shielded kerberos or 1 wing carrier kerberos.
>>175787405
Its not path but church ones. Pathers have their own version.

>>175787579
Mule with guns.

>>175787781
So assault donkey with plenty of flak as cheap PD platform.

>>175787579
Racer Kite

>>175787579
>>175788408
A Kite with a single medium missile slot.

>>175787579
LP boss Dominator
And they do use Cruisers, they can spawn with Moras now

>>175787579
How did they get the lines so straight, even over all the bumps and lumps that a 3D ship should have?

>bunch of modders waiting for .81 to fix some bug that's making mods not work

I NEED MY FIXXXXXXX

>>175789118
Ludd willed them straight

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Pulled this up from when 0.7 dropped, time for a helpful anon to update it?

>>175780536
That benchmark is very demanding, to be fair, but yeah it shouldn't be that low.

>>175789118
Its straight combat ship and not some trifaggot.

>>175790034
It shouldn't drop a single frame on modern systems, look at the game.

>>175790272
Welcome to Java

My rig can run crysis 3 at 90fps but literally stutters, locks up and then crashes if I turn on shadowed terrain in Megamek, which is also written in Java.

I'm not sure it's even possible to get worse performance out of a language unless you specifically design it with that goal in mind.

How the hell do I get rep above 60 if they stop giving rep for doing the domain scavenging missions?

Game stops responding after 20 secs on the main menu

>>175790963
Start sucking the station commander's dick.

Or get a commission. Same thing, really, except you have to kill some people, too.

>>175790963
Bounties.

>>175791186
>>175791215
Will the rep gained from just murdered spacejews or fascists go past 60 then? I remember getting hegemony to 100 but i completely forgot how

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why the fuck is this so expensive for a survey ship

>>175791413
Giving cores always gives rep

Just glanced through the thread, game looks pretty cool.

Question though.

How do you get started, is there a crack floating around somewhere or have people been biting the bullet and buying it?

>>175792001
It's well worth buying.

>>175791762
neutrino gives like .5 rep per core and ive got fuckawful luck with ai cores this run
>>175792001
there's a crack on tpb with the activation code, or on some other sites/trackers

bought it after using the crack and i got no regrets

>>175791713
he fatfingered the cost

>>175792001
It's worth the price but if you're stingy with cash then the game + crack was posted last thread.

>>175792153
like i'm wondering if it's because of the 6 included fusion lances but there's no way in hell that makes any sense

>>175779671
>having their own squadron-level independent CR that depletes as they get blown up
Thats how they worked pre-rework.
Also if you raped them too quick for the motherships to rebuild the wing would be eliminated form teh battle even before the supplies ran out

>>175792043
>>175792108
>>175792241
Thanks famalambs

>>175792001
It's been in development for 6 years and is only just now starting to resemble a playable game. Of course you shouldn't buy it.

So do we think payouts will be nerfed in coming versions?
Shit's pretty ridiculous right now. I can buy a dram and fly 37 LY to make 100k with minimal risk. There's practically no reason to salvage ships seriously because money's so easy to make.

>>175784465
>not having an overriden medusa to facefuck anything

Its so cute when the REDACTED teleporting frigate desperately tries to evade but still ends up swallwoing a non-stop stream of 2 pulse lasers, 2 IR lasers and 2 llight machinegun jizz

>>175793335
They just need some moneysinks.
It'll probably cost millions to keep that private outpost running, paying a trader crew to keep it supplied with constant fuel and supplies.

For now, though, yeah nerf it.

This game makes me so sad. It has such potential.

But by the time it'll be looking decent feature wise, I'll already be playing the new Star Citizen expansion that adds DX13 support for my 3080ti

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They could at least put these things on clearance.

>>175790963
Commission kills keep giving rep. To gain rep over 75 you need to kill something bigger than a destroyer though.

The easiest way to farm rep once you're at a high amount is to go to an orange (or red, if you can handle it) warning beacon system and farm remnant fleets.

What's a good fit for the Aurora? Managed to snag one a while back and she's just been sitting in the hangar since.

>>175793335
High payouts are a good thing. The last thing I want to see is the missions list filled with worthless missions paying 1000 - 5000 credits each. Might as well not even bother at that point, and it's what every developer seems to do. A hundred filler content-less boring missions for shitters to grind away with instead of actually playing the game.

Getting 100,000 credits for surveying a system isn't too bad when buying and loading up a single ship will cost 30k - 90k anyways. And with a high payout like that I don't have to grind away on this stuff forever.

If surveys/salvage could use anything, it'd be higher initial investment and longer progression to the really big rewards and a little more danger. Have the starter surveying equipment only work on class I and II planets. Have the starter salvage gear only be able to rip apart a frigate sized husk for metal. Let the player buy and equip stuff that specializes and expands income from industry.

>>175794432
>But by the time it'll be looking decent feature wise
it already is, and on top of that theres a ton of mods