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Hollowed
>>175633024


>The Fire Fades trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaHQVDjJZQ [Open]


>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB


>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv


>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/


>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub


>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v


>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63


>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a


>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n


>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3


>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>175662503
Why is the Firekeeper so huggable?
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>>175662264
>My point stands though
That it does. I'd fucking love a proper staff-fighting weapon, go all Friar Tuck on people.
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Monk-anon from other thread. >>175662561

Anybody tried it in 3?
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>>175662503
/DSG/ says that dragonsis, magic, and Friede's are terrible in PvP.

Meanwhile I'm running all 3 and absolutely destroying in Aldrich invasions.
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>>175662586
>showing eyes
H-harlot!
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If I use a scholars ring to get my int to 18, cast great magic shield, then swap it out for another ring, will great magic shield still work?
Planning on taking my bossfucker build to the next level, would love if this would work
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>>175662675
One of the free-aiming Jap pyro videos has him encounter a group of cosplayers in the Maiden set, all using caesti like a gaggle of monks. Pretty sweet honestly.
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>tfw no darkslayer greatsword
inb4 wolf knight greatsword yeah yeah i know but it isn't the same
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>>175662698
>aldcuck

At least pick a covenant that's not shit.
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reminder to ignore people with reddit spacing
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Is the PvP scene in NG++ active?
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>>175662950
online isn't changed by ng cycle
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Continuation

Miyazaki heard you wanted to be an ideas guy so he offered you a job to work on "Not dark souls 4"
He wants you to give him five covenants to put in the game. They can be either completely new concepts, copy pasted old covenants or altered covenants

>>175662379
first sounds more like a questline than a covenant
still pretty dope though
>boss is like priscilla but instead of a tiny arena it's a large area

>generic invasion covenant
wouldn't this one be too strong?
I feel it would be more balanced if you'd have to depend on stealth and you're incredibly weak and easy to kill face to face. So you'd have to skitter around leaving signs for people to take & come into the host's world while the host and his possible summons scamper around looking for the signs & you

>It's why I add the "an only bsc in the spot you spawned in". Maybe make the place obvious enough for the host to camp or something. But the whole point and the reason I first thought of this was that pretty much every covenant in "go to that world, fight that dude". I wanted something to deviate from that and having to face the host goes counter to that.Which is why the "half hp/half damage" is there. You're not there to fight
Imagine though, you invade near the end of the area, host is near bonfire, you just take some items near you and then BSC before host even comes close to you.
If you have to distract the host or wear him out, or somehow sneak past him you can escape. But if your escape zone is so far away from the host he can't get there before you exit again, it seems like it'd seem like something you can do nothing about and people would just altf4 as soon as they get invaded by a looter every single time
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>>175662826
>constant invasions, often so fast that you literally go from loading screen to loading screen
>if you run into a 4-man gank squad you can just back off and wait for a friend
>no SL80 shitters
>no blue cops
>great level design
>everyone expects it so there are no surprises
How is any of that bad?
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>>175662897
You're just mad because you didn't bother to learn how to write properly.
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>>175662897
Fuck you, moron. Making a post readable like >>175662994 is infinitely preferable to a fucking wall of text.
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>>175662994
Ignore this post. It reaks of Reddit spacing
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>>175662897
Anyone who's autistic enough to care about fucking text formatting on a Chinese photo sharing board needs to kill themselves.

Triggered?

How about now?
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>>175663058
R

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>>175662561
YOU WANT HAVE FUN IN DARKU SOURS SREE?
FUCK YOU GAIJIN
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>>175663058
Such rude words coming from that young ladies mouth...
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>>175663013
Not that guy, but I like surprises.
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>>175662897
>proper formatting is now reddit spacing
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>>175662897
Good thing I started the thread with it so you should just ignore the entire thread
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>millwood axe
>482 refined at 40/40
>508 when two handed
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>>175662950
>>175662987
Oh shit I'm retarded
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>>175663115
Is there something wrong with your brain where you don't feel like a fucking idiot for typing cringy RP shit like this?
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>>175663134
And that's perfectly fine, but not everybody does.
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Rate my Hollow Lord.
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>>175662561
Collector's edition to make weapons permanently hidden
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>>175663013
A true invader can invade into a 1v4 and still win without crutches like other invaders helping
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>>175663259
Now this. THIS is a reddit post that should fuck off.
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>>175663134
I invade to fight people, not to watch them freak out and roll off a cliff or pull their Internet immediately.
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>>175663145
Reddit spacing refers to double enter rather than single enter, which for some stupid reason doesn't start a new line on reddit.
Now this makes perfect sense to call out, however it gets problematic when you don't want a new line, but instead want a new paragraph, for example to talk about a new subject or point in a post.
For some reason people interpret this as you double entering for a new line when you double entered for a new paragraph.

However you can just ignore it or laugh at them
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>>175663319
Sorry, I can only handle 2 or 3 at once. 4 is too much for this dragonsis.
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>>175663389
Double spacing makes posts easier to read, though.
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>>175663329
What's reddit about fashion?
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>>175662994
idk but i'd like one where you can invade in an area and you get to take over one of the mobs in the area, like if you did it in the high wall you could take over one of the lothric knights.
Might be too hard with getting all the move sets to properly work. I suppose you could make it so that backwards shield slap they do could be down on the left stick+L1 or L2, like a kick input.
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>>175662675
>no twinblades in ds3
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If I post my character asking for feedback on how to improve her face, will I get any kind of constructive criticism at all or should I just give up before I start?
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>>175663417
Use your tail then you should be able to handle 4 at once
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>>175663013
>>if you run into a 4-man gank squad you can just back off and wait for a friend
>see 4 people in distance
>try to snipe them with a CSS
>they notice & start running up the stairs towards me
>get a message saying someone invaded
>think atleast it's going to be a 2v4 now
>it's a blue
mistakes were made

>>175663468
Between different posts, definitely, between different paragraphs, definitely. However starting a new paragraph for each line is annoying

>>175663507
I thought about this too, it should be pretty simple, you just take over a mob and gain a decent health & damage boost. Host gets no message whatsoever. You can choose to roam for a better ambush position and risk getting noticed or just stand at their default spots and wait for them to come to you and then surprise them.
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If I post my character asking for feedback on how to improve her face, will I get any kind of constructive criticism at all or should I just give up before I start?
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>>175662762
I'll swear to protect whoever answers this if I ever meet them in real life, just cry out the post number and if I'm there, I'll come to your aid
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>>175663604
You answered your own question.
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>>175662994
Repost

Warriors of Sunlight: Earlygame Covenant. Warriors of Sunlight can place summon signs (practically) everywhere. Non warrior of sunlight summon signs can now only be placed at little rooms before boss fights. Can not bring white summons back to the level with you, think of them as the DaS2 DLC rooms where you can summon players who don't have the DLC. Can only summon one warrior of sunlight
Duskbringers: Midgame Covenant. Can only invade players who have summoned a Warrior of Sunlight. Can only invade downwards.
Gravelord: Midgame Covenant. Copypaste from DaS1 with three changes. Can now effect NG, the gravelord sign is at your active bonfire and upon going to Gravelord's world, you can use an unlimited use consumable you can purchase at hub every ~30s to spawn a short lived slow orb that floats towards the gravelord's position.
Moundmakers: Early Covenant. Invade only covenant, you are rewarded for killing enough normal enemies, killing the boss, killing an invader or killing the host.
Company of Champions: Early covenant. Once you finish tutorial you have the chance to join this covenant, can leave at any time. However once you leave the covenant or kill the first boss you can't rejoin. Disables summons and makes enemies have more health and deal more damage. Upon killing the final boss in NG it gives you a unique reward and leaves the covenant. Upon killing the final boss in NG+ it gives you another unique reward, however the enemy bonuses are significantly higher.
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>>175663691
Why did you copy my post exactly?
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has anyone tried out "Souls Unsqueezed" mod? i'm wondering if it helps with performance and if it gets you banned or not.
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>>175663691
Just copy some sliders from the pastebin and tweak
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>>175663834
it actually makes your performance worse, don't bother.
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>>175663616
Nothing is more satisfying than destroying a 2v4 when it does happen though.

Had a NK cosplayer join me against a faggot with 3 passworded shitheads last night. Just imagining the screaming as we dismantled his army and then pushed him into a wall and watched him freak-out-roll until he was out of stamina. It was probably the most glorious invasion of the day. Dragonsis + NK is fun as hell.
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>>175663013
>enemy density is way higher than other areas
>fall hazards everywhere
>very little someone can do to a aldcuck hiding at the top of the rafters with an obscuring ring
>everyone expects to be invaded by two people in a high enemy density area so everyone brings phantoms

It's a covenant, and an area, for people who are bad at toe-to-toe PvP. The host will always bring phantoms because the area and the shit covenant enforces it, the shit covenant will always hide behind the mobs/other phantoms and exploit the terrain, because the area and shit covenant enforces it. And the host gets nothing from actually fighting these people off, unless it's a wayward grape.

This is something DaS2 did correctly; you didn't /have/ to go through the bellbong areas, the enemy density was sparse, and the host had something to gain through being there.

Aldrich area, by comparison, is cancer.
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>>175663834
>has anyone tried out "Souls Unsqueezed" mod?
yes

>i'm wondering if it helps with performance
not really

>and if it gets you banned or not.
it doesn't

it does however add a beautiful small probability of randomly crashing if you try to inject textures using it
it's mildly infuriating to crash as you invade someone or talk to an NPC because the program can't handle it if you configure it in-game
it fucking crashed as i talked to greirat for the last time god damn

if you want to play borderless, use borderlessgaming instead of this crap
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https://discord.gg/35EuWsg
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>>175663013
Only a cuck wouldn't like it
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>>175663993
Wait, you say it's cancer and for people who can't fight properly, but then your post indicates you can't cut it as an Aldrichbro.

Which is it?
Do I such because I can, or do you suck because you can't?
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>>175663949
>>175664061
fug, thx for the answers. having only 1gb of vram is suffering.
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175664140
>list reasons as to why the area ends up promoting bad behavious from everyone involved
>"no YOU'RE bad"

Nigger, I could afk as an Aldcuck with an Obscuring Ring and get Rank 3 by the end of the day. Don't kid yourself.
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>>175663848
The pastebin has nothing but characters who look semi-decent only from that angle and in that lighting they're posted.
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>>175664429
that's every das3 character though
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any way to stop das3 from using so much fucking memory?
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>>175664429
Thats why you should head over to Reddits soul sliders
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>>175662994

Alright :

1. Co-op covenant. Very basic covenant, works pretty much the same was as Confederates / Warriors of Sunlight.

2. Invader covenant like Darkwraiths. Works the same was as before but you can interact with the host's world, close shortcuts and so on. Both the invader covenant and the co-op covenant have their representative NPCs in the game world, and react negatively if the player is a part of the opposing covenant and turn hostile if the player is at the highest rank of the opposing covenant.

3. Area defender covenant.
You pledge allegiance to the boss of an area you have to pass through in the game but if you pledge your allegiance, the enemies in the area do not attack you and instead, if you yourself are invaded in the area, the enemies will attack the invader. But this is after you've reached rank 2 or higher in the covenant. When you reach the highest rank in the covenant, the boss of the area will grant you passage through the area without you having to kill them. When you are of the highest rank, you get a ring that allows you to get summoned to help the boss Looking Glass Knight style. If you break the oath to this covenant, you will anger the covenant leader and the area enemies / NPCs and you won't be able to join them again until the next playthrough.

4. The cop covenant that hunts down sinners (invaders) and oath breakers.

5. Cursed ones. You can only join this covenant if you're Hollow. The covenants locks you into a percentage of your max HP and puts a permanent dried finger effect on you but you can get some insanely powerful dark magic spells through the covenant when you have ranked it up. Ranking up in the covenant either requires you to kill certain story NPCs or killing players in a Dark Chasm-style area where they invade others like Bell keepers do. By killing other players you can also grind upgrade materials for the weapons that you unlock by joining this covenant.
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>>175664346
>by the end of the day
Or you could engage in awesome invasions and get rank 3 in an hour or so.
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What's the best spot to farm the millwood knights, most of them seem too much out of the way?
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How the FUCK am I supposed to beat hyper armor on ultra greatswords when it also gives phantom range?
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Anybody wanna help me with the Nameless King?
Im a shitter.

password is dsg
pls let me know so I can ember myself.
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>>175664587
That's even worse!
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>>175664690
What are you farming from them? IIRC they only drop titanites.
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>>175664690
>farm the millwood knights
pretty sure they don't drop anything important, you find the weapons and buy the armor and arrows
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>>175664729
sure just let me find my king's field 9 disk
playstation right?
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>>175664729
What platform are you playing on?
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>>175664802
Heavy gems
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>>175664729
Sent ;p
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>playstation right?
I am not a gay
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>>175664595
Also :
If you're a "Cursed One", the game will spawn Black Phantom enemies on you similar to DS2 NG+ or being gravelorded in DS1 and there are a couple of NPC invaders that attack you if you're in offline mode and in the covenant.

The game should have BP enemies for NG+ modes (some only appearing only on higher NG+s past the initial one) but some of them will appear on regular NG if you're a curse one, and they will get a health+damage increase if you're in the covenant+are on NG+
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>>175664712
Roll past them and then backstab or counter-combo. It's really easy.
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>>175664729
PC? I can help.
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>>175664729
Sure dude!
Give me a minute to dust off the old dreamcast and i'll be right over.
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How hard will Midir be for my sl 60 mage with base hp?
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>>175664729
PC?
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>>175664883
meant for
>>175664820
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175664616
>awesome invasions
Except not really when you realise you're doing the exact same thing you do in every other area. Running behind mobs and exploiting the terrain.
>an hour or so
Even if that was anywhere near true, that's time better spent doing absolutely anything else, because the covenant rewards are utter trash.
Reds get forked tongues for killing blues. Grapes get shackles for killing phantoms. You get fuck all for killing anyone that isn't the host.
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>>175664729
>>175664820
>>175664834
>>175664861
>>175664904
PC yeah
sorry
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>>175665028
I'll drop my sign at the lever. Dragonslayer armor wearing guy btw.
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>>175663604
>If I post [...] will I get any kind of constructive criticism at all
where the fuck do you think you are
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>>175665028
Put my sign down
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>>175665020
Great Deep Soul is a valuable spell for duels and PvP in general.

Makes roll catching regards easy as fuck. Against players with a brain it's a solid pressure tool.
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>>175665091
Still waiting
>>175665124
This you?
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>>175664616
Some people can't get good
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>>175665210
Yes
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>>175665020
>he cares about covenant rewards
>he needs to use mobs
>he doesn't do it for pure enjoyment
Uhh...
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>>175664595
>not poor little darkwraith
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Are winged knight axes worth it for PVP? Or are they utter shite?
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>>175665210
It's down. It should appear now for you.
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175665227
Yeah, like aldcucks

175665263
>he could get useful items
>he knows he's wrong and the only way out is to say "b-b-but you do it too", without realising he'd be completely wrong
>he could be literally anywhere else doing the exact same thing

Yeah, I dunno man, it's almost like it's a shit covenant.
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>>175664690
>>175664843
Anyone?
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>>175665343
A buddy of mine uses them pretty well. Uses a wolf great curved sword for the proc effect, not sure what else he runs on that build though.
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>>175665390
I see this faggot stopped using @s lmao
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175665490
>g-g-give me my (you)'s ;((((

Nah.
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This whole "not giving people (you)s" thing is fucking ridiculous.
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>>175665210
Well, that sucked. Hopefully you got it. If not, I can put my sign down again.
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>>175665343
I have a pair I've been using on a 60str character, it's actually a good amount of fun if you learn the moveset.
Lots of people will pull out a parry weapon as soon as they see it, and the first L1 can be parried easily. However, you can do a lot of mixups with unlocked backsteps -> attack or WA in their face when they try and read parry
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>>175665545
We almost had him, got him down to 1/4 health but he got me before i could heal.
I'll ember up again and summon you.
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>>175665446
I'd say the tower area, simply because I think not dealing with the Millwood with the axe with the earthquake WA is better and they're less likely to gang up on you.

Mountain pass is a shorter run from a bonfire though.
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>>175665526
But i made you stop using @s so my mission is accomplished

Nothing you do can ever take that away. You bent to my will and stop posting Reddit tier @s

Lol cuck
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>>175665020
>>175665390
>>175665526
uh, are you OK? Mobile posting or something?
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175665542
not getting your fix?
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>>175665263
>No souls remaster with these graphics
>why live
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is this the coolest weapon arts ?
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The only thing more ridiculous than not giving people (you)s is when they get assmad about being cheated out of their (you)s.

As for that idiot; I never used @s. Stay assmad.
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>>175665691
>tfw no time-travel past Lothric
>tfw will never fight Lorian without his handicap
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Too mannish? I tried to make her look kind of stern.
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>>175665659
Nah I'm a phone poster and it doesn't do that at all.
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>>175665742
>shitposting about shitposting
>reddit spacing
DO NOT TOUCH

>>175665863
oh, ok so he's just a retard
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>>175665809
If it looks good to you, does it really matter?
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>>175665809
more bothered by the mouth, too wide
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>>175665863
>>175665659
He is the @ guy and got ass made that i filtered @s so now hes not posting them anymore
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>moaning shield doesn't even moan when used
you fucked up, from
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>>175665809
cute
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>>175666003
>greatsword isnt a greatsword, its an ultra greatsword
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>>175665545
Thank you!
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>>175666079
>splitleaf greatsword is a halberd that's not even a halberd
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>>175666079
bk sword is greatsword
bkgs is ugs
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>>175665651
I just went there, did they buff the mobs in that area or something? I swear they weren't patrolling with wolves before, and there wasn't a knight blocking the ascent up the stairs. What the fuck.
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>>175666086
No problem
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>>175666003
Shame that their are no aggro items in ds3
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Playing through DaS1 again and it's weird how seldom people praise New Londo as one of the most atmospheric areas. It looks really fucking good. Admittedly the ghosts sort of ruin it for me, feels a bit on the nose and goofy - dunno if that makes sense. Area itself though, wew.
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>>175666079
>parrying dagger isn't good at parrying
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175665943
I think you've got me confused for someone else. Which is hilarious.
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>>175666279
this one I genuinely don't understand.
Why is parrying dagger so fucking bad?
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You dumb faggots. I'm getting all of your (You)'s and not spending any of them!

I'll never spend a (You) while you all feed me (You)'s until I have enough to take over the world.

Ignorant slaves.
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>don't know which weapon to use
>every light weapon feels the same, only cool movesets are on oversized weapons that float above the shoulder when 2 handed or clip through armor
>stop playing DaS3
>shitpost on dsg instead
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>you can't keep the r2 button down when using the WKGS wa to keep somersaulting
If they made it work with harold's cs why not arty's
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>>175666451
give me your (You)s
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>>175666457
>don't know which weapon to use
Do what I did and upgrade every weapon to +10/+5
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>>175666451
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This is a useful and logical attack
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>175665943
>he thinks he's important enough to have that kind of effect on someone
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>>175666079
>mail breaker
>Dark souls delivery system is exclusively cage based
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>fight someone
>the damage he deals registers instantly and from across the screen
>the damage I deal to him registers 30 seconds later

I fucking love this game.
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>>175666003
But it does
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Is it too late to start a DS3 channel on youtube guys?

I kinda wanna try. Just a simple channel, where I invade and fuck with people. Like im not the greatest invader or a PvP-god.

Or is it too late
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175666546
175666678
More to add to my collection.

Hahahahaha

One step closer to world domination!
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>>175666934
>hit enemy model
>sound effect
>0damage
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>>175667105
Seconding this. What program do you guys use for recording webms? What are good, easy and free editing softwares?
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>have questionable netcode in your previous games
>increase the maximum number of players that can be present in a single world in your new game
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>>175665715
I think self buffing is pretty lame, if it actually did a black serpent attack that would be cool
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>>175666934
>hit guy
>doesn't register and he rolls away a second later
>he hits the air a few feet away
>direct hit
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Rate my pyro twink
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/188181
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>>175667105
it's never too late
don't let your dreams be dreams
just do it
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>>175667485
I don't think cloranthy makes much sense iwht no stamina
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>>175667105
If you believe you have something interesting to show, go for it. One way to test the waters would be to post some webms here and see reactions
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>>175667613
You are a fool
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>>175667613
What else should I run?
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>reds are shit because they hide behind enemies
>grapes are shit because they hide behind enemies in purple
>furfags and slimefags are shit because they hide behind enemies, each other, and the shit reds and grapes who invade their areas for easy kills
>blues are shit because they join a gank squad
>phantoms are shit because they the gank squad
>hosts are shit because they summon gank squads

Guys. I finally see the pattern. I've figured it out.
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>>175667659
you tell'm, jeff
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>>175667105
you won't make it

>>175667209
OBS
I just pirate sony vegas
the day you get a mail from sony or youtube or whatever asking if you have a legitimate copy is the day you can afford to buy it because your channel is big enough
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>>175667642
Different anon.

What if wembs are too short to show the good invasions?
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>>175667659
I am a gigantic attention seeking faggot
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>>175667813
Guess it's time for me to add a trip? Is that what you want?
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>>175667746
>the day you get a mail from sony or youtube or whatever asking if you have a legitimate copy is the day you can afford to buy it because your channel is big enough
That happens? really?
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desu, if you're making invasion based content you have a good chance of getting some sort of following - there's a lot of memey shit out there and quite a bit of tryhard honor duel stuff too, but DaS3 doesn't really have a lot of people making interesting invasion related content

just try it I guess, although I probably wouldn't post your stuff here
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My name Jeff
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>Spent the day making a stealth bleed build for Catacombs invasions
>Decide to go thief
>Get to level 45 before I remember how badly From fucked over luck builds
>Fuck it, maybe I can salvage this at SL60
>Nope
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>>175667872
I want you to remove the name. Noone cares who you are. One namefag is one too many.
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>>175667746
Thanks familia
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>>175667901
probably yeah, if you're pewdiepie
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>>175667920
>just try it I guess, although I probably wouldn't post your stuff here

Why not?

I made a twitter just to upload some stuff to to make webms easy but Youtube seems much better.
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Hey guys, Jeff here!
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>have to clear archdragon peak so i can buy stupid chunks
>really cba with pve anymore but decide to just power through it
>do the plunging attack on the wyvern
>i just clip right through its head and die

thank you a-team
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>>175667976
>>175667872
>>175667813

Ok faggots. I didn't want to do this but now I'm going to become a trip friend.

Thanks to all of you guys for creating another one.
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>>175668002
Just use poison? Poison rotten gruh dagger and sharp/hollow bandits knife maybe?
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>trying to fight Gael as a pure sorc
>literally do no damage

epic just fucking epic
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>>175668227
Not if I become one first
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Now hold on there, partner, this town's only big enough for one Jeff.
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What even happened to this general in the last couple weeks.
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>fashion gets me to 30.01%
fun

>another setup gets me to 30.00%
>still mid roll
W H Y

>ANOTHER SETUP ALSO GETS ME TO 30.00%

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST IT'S A CONSPIRACY
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>>175668692
My trip has more letters and DOUBLE the exclamation marks. I simply win.
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>>175665809
Looks great, post sliders.
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>>175668792
Just use a Ring of Favor
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>>175668474
Use the poison staff on him. He bleeds and poisons fast
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Anyone got a Great Corvian Scythe they don't mind giving away on PS4? I swear the droprate is worse than those bloody ears.
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Guys if I respec and my INT goes below 10, does Orbeck leave Firelink?
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>>175669596
... never mind, it just dropped!
>>175669664
No, he doesn't.
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>>175669664
no
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this is a public service announcement!
invade farron keep at SL35 +3 for FANTASTIC invasions!

don't forget your moss though.
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>>175667642
Im on ps4, and have no idea how to make webms though
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>>175669121
one of the setups uses ring of favor
also I'd rather use chlo
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What is even the point of the threads any more?
All the lore that is worth discussing has been discussed
All the best builds have been determined
All the secrets have been unraveled
Every inch of this game has been covered
There are only so many ways you can play this game, even with the inclusion of the DLCs. Most times it's a waste of time to do before clearing the game.
The PvE has been dissected thoroughly where a simple google search will unveil the OPTIMAL BIS SET UP for EVERY BUILD or THE BEST DAMAGE BUILD IN THE GAME and etc.
Routes have already been developed for speed running or 100%/Platinuming the game.
The PvP meta has also been equally as dissected.
Every RESOURCE you NEED is in the OP of this very thread, and every thread for this general for as long as /dsg/ continues to exist.
Reddit even offers similar resources with the same information.
Every topic under the sun that is worth discussing has been discussed.
The ONLY thing left to DISCUSS is translating the last few pieces of the lore so we can infer what it means and how it correlates with the overall image of the series and we're running out even on that
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>>175665343
I want to give that cock a full bodyjob.
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Let's do this.
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>>175669741
>raw
>not poison
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>>175669794
Google "webm for retards". Not memeing you, that's what the application is called.
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>>175669814
I just come here to shitpost and complain.
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>>175669854
it's raw so i can use rotten pine resin and still deal actual damage.
poison infusion is pretty garbage.
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>>175669814
Good question, why are there still generals for Katawa Shoujo and Undertale?
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My pc is shit, it can barely run DS at the lowest settings, what do I need to play it at smooth 60fps all maxed-out?
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>>175669839
Roll
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>>175669814
You need to calm down anon, we come here to enjoy souls and shitpost. Have fun this doesn't need to be a chore to do.
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>>175669814
>he thinks the series is over
spotted the newfriend

dark souls is over, souls is not.
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Share your favorite gank squad spanking weapons. I thought exile GS would be god-tier but I think I need to git gud at timing the combo first.
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>>175670049
I got a gtx 1050 ti and the only time I drop lower than 58 is when I open the door to the RoS
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>>175669839
Roll
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>>175669814
There are a lot more useless threads on /vg/ than this. This is a multiplayer game that's still active. There are threads for Undertale or KS or Danganronpa etc. that have no business still existing but still do.
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>>175670380
what kind of sorcery do you do to not drop frames at lothric castle and grand archives? i have a 1070 and a 3.4ghz processor with 8gb and still get drops there regularly
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>>175660769

First for notes; items akin to Beckoning Bell (Bloodborne's co-op summoning item), Small Bell (also BB), Red Eye Orb and Dragon Eye are available to all players. Arenas are also broadly accessible. Giant Seeds do not exist.

1. Gold Covenant. Focused on helping others in various ways. Can use an item to enable summoning to any area one has unlocked. Gold phantoms can also be summoned at any time to oppose the Old Monk covenant, even before they've reached the area themselves. Entry into this covenant is earned via successful coop. If boss is killed, one is rewarded with souls/covenant item and returned to world with a few estus sips restored.

2. Sellsword Covenant. A version of WoB/Blue Sents/Darkmoon, an early merchant sells consumables which become active when invaded and can be used to summon a Sellsword. Sellsword summons for hosts function exactly like Blue Sentinel summons in DS2. However, you can also use this consumable as an invader, and summon a Sellsword as a second if there are two invader slots active, in which case they are a red who is aligned with you. You can only carry a few of the summons and you can summon as many Sellswords as you have phantom slots open.

3. Madman Covenant. Randomizes the function of Small Bell and Orb; upon entering a world via either method, alignments with other phantoms and the host is assigned randomly. Random alignment also doesn't follow normal rules; you can be hostile to a white summon and friendly to the host, for example, and your alignments can be in any amount; all friendly, all hostile, or a mix. Goal can be to kill another phantom, kill the host, or kill the boss; goal is never impossible. If you're friendly to the host you can enter the boss fog, but you can also be BC'd out.
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>they brought back the DaS2 Large Club instead of the DaS1 Large Club with it's fun moveset and poison aux
great game
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>>175669734
>>175669740

Thanks. Also gonna try to play a regeneration style knight now, with a blessed mace and chime WA, plus Loyd's Sword ring to try to stay capped with HP at all times.

>tfw blessed weapon and Chime WA regen stack

For one it's gonna make Catacombs a breeze, which is coming up.
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>>175670374
Onyx blade decent damage + range and pyro utility spells
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>>175670421
Cm punk da god

Jwong needs to put more time into chun. He's always been a defensive player but too much rufus made him think hes a rushdown god
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>>175670571
>Madman Covenant

I like your thinking.
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>>175670558
I might drop there too but I haven't noticed. I'm one of those dudes that as long as I got 40 fps or so, I don't care. Btw my cpu runs at 4ghz, but the biggest contributor must be that I play offline
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>>175669839
Rolling
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>>175670571

4. Rat Covenant. I would want included as a basic functionality, open to any player, the option to enter randomly generated dungeons akin to chalice dungeons, which would function like the Pilgrim of the Dark areas from DS2. Rats, however, would then enter these areas as invaders aligned with the enemies, and after killing their first host would take ownership of that dungeon. Afterward more hosts attempting to get random dungeons would get drawn into that dungeon to be killed by the Rat, growing more difficult with every success; with sufficient growth it would start intercepting summons from the other covenants and drawing them into the dungeon. However, each successful kill would also open up another "slot" for victims, eventually capping at 5 potential players vs the 1 rat. Enemies would respawn on a timer. Invading players would all be hostile to the Rat, but would be aligned with each other only if in the same covenant. Anti-Rat players can win either by killing the Rat or by killing the boss. Entry to the Rat covenant requires defeating a difficult optional boss (with summoning disabled) and ranking up grants access to potent griefing items.

5. Old Monk Covenant. One "boss" fight takes place in a giant Pontiff-esque arena and forces two Gold summons upon the host if he does not already have phantoms. To oppose them, two Old Monk summons are brought in, and the area has enemies in it. You are forced to wait until at least one Old Monk summon is in before you can enter the fog. The Old Monk proxy is within the arena and must be killed for the host to progress, but its exact position is randomized between a few locations. Old Monk covenant phantoms will continually resummon after being killed. The boss fight is necessary to complete the game. Old Monk proxy is probably a waifu of some kind; you can imagine this as if there were a covenant to be Garl Vinland.

Covenants would be designed to be high commitment, with severe consequences for leaving.
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What's a good sidearm for a sorcerer? I'm running 60 int and a good bit of dex(not decided how much yet).
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Who was worse?

>Cerah the Old Explorer
>Ancient Soldier Varg
>Afflicted Graverobber

Or

>Champion's Gravetender
>Sif's grandson
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>>175669814
>Every inch of this game has been covered
that's what they say every time something new gets found
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>>175670889
Long sword
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>>175670984
shulva gank squad because you can kill the gravetender before the wolf gets over to you
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>ask if group fights are dead
>people say it's dead everywhere but 120
>level to 120
>slower
huh
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>>175670984
Paladin Yorlin.
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>>175671213
Sl 50-60 with +6 weapon is really active.
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Anybody have the sound clip of her breathing?
It's relaxing.
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>>175670889
sage rapier. get 20 dex for the cast speed cap without having to go to ng++
>>175670984
Worse in what aspect? The ganksquad was pretty easy, only the path leading to it was cancer. Kinda like encountering an actual ganksquad, except focusing the host (Varg) was a bad idea. The gravetendies were even less interesting and with a halfassed attempt at lore which, depending on the person, might be better or worse than "3 dudes looking for loot you fight for no reason"
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>tfw you help a first time player through the ringed city
Feels good, man.
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>>175669741
I've got a SL35 +3 character in Farron Keep, but they're for co-op rather than invasions and I never get summons.
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Can anyone give me thr skinny on the Preachers Right Arm? How good of a caster tool is it at +50 int?
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>>175671438
God it's so fucking repulsive. I don't understand how people can waifu it.
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>>175671547
it's weird, people don't tend to summon here. i guess it's the poison.
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>>175669741
I have a 24 +3 I have for Farron Keep invasions and it's wonderful.
>that panic when the host's phantoms die and he can't find his way back to the bonfire
>that constant poison that so few people heal that let's me know their exact location at all times
>that location tracking using the still-flaming towers
>all of those fucking hiding places in spots they have to visit to continue jesus christ
I love it. Favourite place to invade without a doubt.
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>pancaking giant skellies and bone dogs with a divine zwei

I dont know why I never made a divine zwei before
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>>175662897
>People who spend so much time on reddit that they know what "reddit spacing" is and are actually triggered by it.
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>>175669839
Rollend
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>>175671620
about 9 less spell buff compared to court sorc at 60 int. If you don't use the staff weapon art then it a good idea to use preachers arm. Also I did a preacher arm weapon art only run and that shit is fun as fuck. Theres a glitch of some sort where using a magic buff on a weapon will add the damage to the weapon art attack as well.
>>
>make a stupid meme char using bleed infused claws
>the build is absolute garbage but "hey people say that bleed is good vs dancer so at least she'll get destroyed"
>reach the dancer
>bleed takes away 1/20th of her health and procs every 10ish claw hit

a-atleast I'll have fun dying to r1 spam in pvp
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>>175671526
>you teach them how to take on the harald knights on one
>you watch him fuck the rest up, knowing he's feeling pretty awesome right now
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>get summoned as dorkmoon
>there's a grape and a red
>whack rad till he has only a few milimeters of health
>he runs away and crystals out
>invades again
That's some faggotry, Garry.
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>>175671828
honestly it's weird seeing summons not at boss gate, no one wants to co-op the area
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>>175671513
>sage rapier
Do not listen to this man. He is a bearer of lies and treachery. This weapon is a walking disaster for early game mage builds and you'd be better off with a Raw Absolutelyanythingelse.
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Is there a level for PvEing Chalice Dungeons in BB like for pvp?
Lvl 100 right now
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>>175671828
I've even got caressing tears attuned to help out with that. I guess I'll have to see how active the Cathedral is instead: even according to the teleport screen Farron Keep is inactive.
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>>175671670
Do you have mirrors in your home?
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>>175669895
Cool man, thx.
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>>175672054

Host's fault for fingering himself.
>>
Is perseverance the single most underrated PvE ability in the game? Decided to do a new run with Vordt's hammer and this shit just destroys bosses. Just sit through their hit and outswing them all day.
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>>175672064

Second this, int build with that rapier is the first build I've ever deliberately abandoned.
>>
>decides to become a magic man in DS3

how fucked am I?
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>>175672202
He was doing pretty good against the grape though. Garry got btfo'd twice though.
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>>175672216
vordt's hammer is just a good pve weapon, anon.
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>>175672064
>60 int
>a good bit of dex
>early
are you challenged?
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>>175672054
>invade ganks squad
>run them out of estus but I also lose all mine
>invade the same group instantly
>triple kill (+2 blues while host was roll spamming)
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>>175669839
roll toll
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>>175672297
very since you can't play a magic man at the 120 memeta
>>
>we will never get the pre-abyss Arty set
>we will never get the Dark lord Gael set

fuck
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>>175672683
t. someone who lost twice using magic and deemed it unviable
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>>175669839
rollan
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>>175672728
Ledo had a set that they removed
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Im still pissed that we didnt get a secret boss lile the moo presence like in BB.

Midir was hardly a secret at all. Fuck you From, i seriously expected that.
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>>175671857
it's even better when invading with poison tools, it's like the entire swamp is your weapon.
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>>175672683
Why not? I really dont know shit about building a sorc properly so im sure its not optimised but I just threw this together

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/188225
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>>175669839
Rock and roll
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>>175672789
you can win with it but you can win with a ladle in DaS2 as well
it's not viable in the slightest because half of your levels are useless
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>>175669839
*touches tail*
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How do I make dragonsis work?
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>>175673207
That's the most stupid comparison I've ever seen. If you don't know how to use magic don't bother commenting on its usefulness.
>>
Give me a good build for Friede's scythe
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>>175673153
>40 vig
does literally nothing for a caster compared to other builds
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>>175672192
No, who does?
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>>175673389
Ill preface with what I said before about not knowing shit about building a caster

Why wouldnt it though?
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>>175673379
I win 75% of the fights at 80
>inb4 excuses
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>>175673372
Get Bloodlust and spam the WA
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>>175669839
roll
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>>175673498
If that's the case then maybe you don't understand the definition of viable, though I guess this game's pvp is mostly filled with retards anyways.
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>>175663540
One of my favorite weapons in dark souls two
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>>175672054
>invade fingered host
>about to kill stranded blue
>hosts send him home cucking me of 2 estus
that's some faggotry
>>
So which builds are good right now?
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>>175662503
>How do I make dragonsis work?
Pic related.
>>
To this day I still wonder why we can't reset an area with an ember to allow/block invaders
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Do I have to summon Yuria for SoC to get the LoH ending? Or do I just touch?
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>>175673595
>win 75% of fights at 80
>win 20% of fights at 120
>somehow this doesn't mean it's unviable at 120
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>>175673843
No need to summon her.
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>Can't get londor braille tome without leveling up
this level thing is such a dumb mechanic

I'm already hollow yoel u fuck call over yuria why the fuck do you need to level me up
>>
>>175673843
No, you only have to summon Yuria if you want her set+weapon without killing her.
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>>175667920
Thanks for the tip anon
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>>175673734
Dragonhead + Scar pyro.
Pontiff + Friede mage.
Poise monster GGS.
Pontiff + Bleed Freyed.
Poise monster miracles.
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>>175673734
40/40 is still good, 66/15 give or take still pumps some hella ar, quality hybrids outside of hollow are still good(hollow is still ok but status effects kind of got fucked), faith is pretty solid with the addition of lightning arrow and heal grenade, and dex/sharp got a HUGE buff.

str/heavy dex/sharp CGS are pretty fuckin raw in general right now
>>
so now that hawkwood took my twinkling dragon stone away what are these non-twinkling stones good for?

also he couldve just asked, i didnt wanna be some nasty scaley anyway
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>>175673885
It just means that the 120 meta is more competitive.
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>>175673928
The Dark Sigils allow one to usurp the flame. Being jerky doesn't matter. So Yoel will insist on feeding you sigils.
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>>175673734
60 faith SLB + SSS
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>levelled my characters past the point of invasion prime even though I hate duelling
Fuck what's wrong with me.
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>>175674057
If my character is hollow then he must have been sigil'd in the past this makes no sense

There's literally no other way to become hollow ingame
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>>175674037
go to the abyss watchers arena. You can just have a talk with him and everything gets sorted out
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>>175672436
Oh my, well I guess that makes it a good weapon then.
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>Invade road of sacrifice at lvl 35+
>someone had a fucking twin ugs

goddamnit
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>>175674229
No you dumb nigger, a Dark Lord must possess eight sigils to usurp the flame.
You can become hollow with 1 sigil, but it doesn't matter. Not just any jerky motherfucker can steal the flame because they're hollow.
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>DS1's difficulty comes from bosses having varied movesets to keep you on your toes
>DS3's difficulty comes from bosses using the same combo over and over and making you guess how many times they're going to swing
rly makes u think
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>>175673943
>>175673926
Cheerio. Now I never have to be an edgelord again
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>>175673771
Dragonsis is making me into a scaly...what can I do?
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>>175674348
Yeah who gives a shit just let me find bitches to stab with the sword of avowal

Those three dark sigils didn't require leveling up
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>>175674053
it really doesn't
playstyles are the exact same or worse
but because flat defenses are higher across the board, stamina is higher across the board & vigor is higher across the board you simply lose both win conditions

you can't punish people by trading up spells because they'll just roll 10 times instead of 8
you can't chip them down because your farron darts & soulmass do no damage, you can't trade with anything and you can't even come CLOSE to one shotting things anymore
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>>175673496
Not him but I play a 60 int build for pontiffs and stamina is much more useful than health

I'd drop some vig and throw it into end
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>>175674419
Stay the course, anon.
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Wolf Knight Greatsword is the coolest shit

Pity it sucks huge amounts of dick.
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>>175674430
True that. Just let us marry a harem because fuck forced levelling.
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>>175674370
I feel that the Ringed City bosses (with the exception of SoTC because lmao players) are more along the lines of DeS/DaS1/DaS2 bosses in that while they do trash about like a BB/DaS3 boss they have actual combos and patterns that can be read, similar to DeS/DaS1/DaS2 bosses.
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>>175668792
Literally one more point in vitality

Do you really need the 2-3 AR more than you need fastroll?
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Best zones to invade at SL80?
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>>175673885
You said that at 120 half of your levels are wasted, which would mean that sorcery at all is a waste of points. Leveling int doesn't leave with with only spells. There isn't any reason why your win rate should be lower at a higher level with a similar build against other similar builds other than perhaps a difference between the types of people that choose certain levels. If you really wanted you could probably get a 90% win rate being an asshat with darts and soulmass.
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>>175671526
>tfw you boss invade a guy trying to beat Midir
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>>175669814
We can talk about fun experiences with the game

Don't project your own feelings of ennui and listlessness on others, it's not healthy. Introspect, anon. If you aren't enjoying yourself here, then do something else with your time.
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>>175674252
at 20 dex, which is where he should be, the difference is minuscule and CSR is longer, has a better wa and iirc is faster too. I didn't remember the crystal estoc to be that strong though, must have changed with the general infusion rebabalncing
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>>175674440

>you can't chip them down because your farron darts & soulmass do no damage, you can't trade with anything and you can't even come CLOSE to one shotting things anymore

What's your stat and equipment set-up at 120 like? Because a Court staff with just the two magic rings alone does about 100 damage to a player with Great Farron Dart which is amazing for its cast speed and FP cost. A full Soulmass does about 400 which is also good for the same reasons.

And nuke spells are bad at any level save Vestiges and idiots who trade with Sunlight Spear, they're most optimal for brawls and PvE. Sorcery is the weakest of the three magic schools now I'd say but it is still strong especially when paired with a Crystal Longsword to cover people approaching you.
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Black Knight Sword is seriously amazing.

>Stylish one-handed attacks
>staggers even the biggest enemies
>no-nonsense Weapon Art that does its job witout fancy tricks
>at +5 it can take out any enemy before they have a chance to even lift their weapon.
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I want to replay Dark Souls 3 now that the DLC is out, are fist weapons any good now? Or the Twinblades? Also heard you can get a dual ultra greatswords, are they any good?
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>>175674686
Is there a new boss invade glitch or was that back a few weeks ago?
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>>175672627
Not fooling anyone buddy. Grape died and red insta run away with a crystal.
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>>175674898
No
Yes, use them with pontiff eyes, wolf curved sword and carthus beacon for mad dmg
Yes they are good but you are a faggot if you use them.
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>>175674674
what the fuck are you even saying
learn to formulate sentences

nobody plays sorcerers at high levels, because it fucking sucks. So why are you talking about mirror matches

>>175674818
>especially when paired with a Crystal Longsword to cover people approaching you.
and do no damage because flat resistances are higher so crystal barely even does more damage than raw, if it does at all
I do ~90 damage on an r1

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/185887
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>>175674686
>tfw can forcibly help people who don't know about black crystal to get souls
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>>175673993
>Pontiff + Friede mage.
>Pontiff + Bleed Freyed.
Elaborate
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>>175674252
Allow me to retort:
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I have 400 hours in DaS3
I feel like starting a new character with greatsword
I know I will quit the game, bored, within 2 hours, but I still can't fight the urge
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>>175674440
120 is the "competitive" meta level. Always has been.

SL 80 is for people who want a more casual PvP experience. Or for people who want to try out something unusual.

Most of the people at SL 80 complain about "cancerous" weapons and playstyles because they couldn't hack it at 120.
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>>175674775
>I didn't remember the crystal estoc to be that strong though
It isn't. 442 split AR isn't good. The point was that 408 split AR is worse. At 20/60 if you need a sidearm that you're not going to buff, it should probably be a Crystal Lothric Knight Sword. With a bit more Dex you can run with Aquamarine.
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>invade
>2+ ultra greatsword users spamming r1
>can't parry 2handed greatswords

why

why does fromsoft hate fun?
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>>175675154

>I do ~90 damage on an r1

That's on a Crystal Longsword? That literally should not be possible unless you haven't upgraded it or have no points in INT, even against other people with up 40 INT you should be doing about 150 per R1 at most from my experience and around 200~ to people with no magic resist.

Also this is just a suggestion but if you're doing just PvP switch out Crystal Soul Spear with something like Great Deep Soul or Farron Hail, CSS has terrible FP efficiency per cast. If you want a nuke spell even Great Soul Dregs is more efficient.
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>get invaded
>kick invader's ass for 5 minutes straight
>he's down to low health and out of estus, I've only drank once
>he's been spamming parries the whole fight
>finally lands a lucky one
>instakills me

Nothing more frustrating than losing to a shitter.
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What are recommended soul levels for each area invasion in DS3?
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>>175675092
>No
God damnit. Never gonna be as fun as DS2's fisting.

>Yes they are good but you are a faggot if you use them.

I'm guessing they're the meme build right now.
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>>175673637
>powerstanced Sorcerer's Twinblade
>never ever in 3
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>>175662762
Anyone know this one?
Prize for answer is now protection AND companionship
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Which Reshade do you guys use? I'm getting tired of vanilla colours.
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>>175675421
SL60 with +6 weapon
everywhere
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>>175675420
Things like that a sorta the reason why I don't like playing Dex builds, because I just switch to unparriable weapons and fucking crush them whenever they do that.
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What's the approved method of dealing with parryspammers? I usually beat them, but all they need is one lucky parry to end the match. I feel like I should pocket an Ultra just to deal with them.
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>>175675420
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>>175675160
>Invade as a white phantom
>Watch the host and his buddies' sheer confusion as you start helping them through the level without their consent
>Because you count as an invader blues get summoned to deal with you but can't do anything about it
Completely /devilish/
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>>175675383
Because str was shit :^)
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>>175675154
I'm not talking about mirror matches, I was talking about level 80 builds being generally similar to builds found at level 120. The level 80 sorcery build is similar to a level 120 sorcery build in that it's a sorcery build, same with str, dex, etc.
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>>175675304
>120 is the "competitive" meta level. Always has been.
put your trip back on lucy

>>175675385
crystal scimitar
split damage is a bitch at higher levels because everyone has a shitload of flat defenses
after I swapped to raw scimitar I did slightly more damage
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>>175675541
Play pyromancer. Keep a parting flame slotted in your left hand. If they parry fish, feed them 2 black flames.
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>>175675420
Holy fuck this feeling
>Absolutely kicking someones ass
>Getting giddy thinking about the epic meme gesture you'll do when they die or how you'll throw a turd at them or something
>They manage to land a parry
>Fucking destroy you

>>175675541
Kicks or jump attacks.
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>>175675541
I start opening with rolling kicks. It's boring but it gets the job done. You can also fake a running attack into a backstab but the counter to this is big weapons with HA which is exactly what most parry spammers use. I've seen enough EGS & caestus to last me a lifetime, whoever thought the hornet ring should come back was a moron.
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>>175675547
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>>175675541
>>175675654
Or, you know, just backstab them like any normal person would.

Saves you having to create a whole new character/build.
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>>175675627

>Crystal Scimitar

Well fuck dude that explains it more, Scimitar is an awful weapon for a Sorcerer to Crystal infuse. It has less base AR than most low stat weapons meaning it will gain less from infusion even with the supposedly high scaling and it's one of the shortest curved swords while one-handed. Get a Crystal Longsword if you want a melee tool while casting.
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>>175662675

>Tfw Gundyr's Halberd doesn't let you perform his martial arts kicking and punching moves in tandem with the halberd moveset.
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>>175675420
If you lost to a parry spammer then you are the shitter m8.
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>>175675627
oh hey it's the "I only need crystal scimitar I'm not even gonna bother getting stats for the MLGS" guy. no wonder you lose so much at 120
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>>175675692
>using parriable attacks against parry fisher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikTOJ79fP8A
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Can anyone drop me a Wolf ring +3 on PS4?
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>>175675231
Crystal sage WA is pretty dank bro dont hate
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>>175675746
then weapon shares same moveset as flashsword and it's even easier to dodge

>>175675874
>see, the problem with your build is you're not a different buildtype. just become a different buildtype!
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>>175675383
Oh no, not ultra greatswords, they might hit you with them if you fall asleep. If only you had a crossbow, or any other kind of ranged attack, or maybe like a long pokey weapon with more range than them.
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>>175674370
I want you to really think about what you just said. really think about it.

I love das1 but dont pretend that the the majority of bosses dont have 3-4 moves and thats it
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>>175675179
Pontiff + OWCS Friede breaks 1k AR with 40/60 after the 4th hit (2nd WA R1) all of which is guaranteed. You also get old moonlight + hcsm combo.

Every hit from the Freyed WA R2 counts as a single hit for bleed abd pontiff building.
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>>175676017
>then weapon shares same moveset as flashsword and it's even easier to dodge

Except not costing an attunement slot or FP to use, doing more damage, being able to combo consistently and having different moves beyond basic R1s. And Longsword is one of the best rollcatching weapons in the game like all good Straight Swords, what do you mean it's easy to dodge? So is everything in the game by that logic.
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>>175676064
>40/60
Sounds unrealistic somehow
Got a sample build?
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>>175675420
Nothing tickles me more than charging at a parry spammer, going around them, and backstabbing them while they're in their parry animation.
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>>175669839
Please be fun
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>>175676057
Dealing with multiple gankers swinging their big dicks around is different to dealing with ultrashitters in duels.

Do you seriously think you're going to kill someone with a crossbow?
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>>175676125
>what do you mean it's easy to dodge?
everything by itself is easy to dodge
as a caster you have to use variation to your advantage to manipulate roll timings
if you have two things with the exact same timing it doesn't make it harder

roll timings of flashsword & longsword are the same
roll timings of flashsword & dagger/scimitar are different
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Hodrick keeps kicking my ass please help
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>go to upgrade weapon
>2 shards
>oh ok
>4 shards
>right this is a bit much
>6 shards for a fucking +3 weapon
Holy shit
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>>175675745
But I like playing Pyromancer.
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>>175675548
That's literally rape
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is the dragonslayer spear good?
Thinking of making a build with it and using offensive faith miracles
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>>175669839
roll
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>>175676265

The Longsword can do more things than Flashsword with more damage while being able to consistently combo attacks. Flashsword is pointless since the Preacher Arm got added as a catalyst anyway since that has more range and can combo for more damage than Flashsword without having to attune.
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>>175676296
Lead him to mobs and let them kill him.
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>mfw Spitleaf Greatsword lives up to the hype

They're going to nerf this, aren't they?
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>>175676349
It's a quality weapon that was recently nerfed. Use saint bident instead.
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>>175675340
I meant compared to CSR
>>175675420
>he's been spamming parries
>you don't switch to unparriable weapons or at least bs punish
Not gonna say deserved, but you could've prevented this
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>summoned as blue
>it's a 3v2 vs a red and a purple in central Irythill, have to dodge flame witches and those ghost hollows
>enemy red is in full Mournes cosplay
> dueling him amidst the enemies, rolling out of the way of flame columns, having a blast
>right before we clash I suddenly black out to loading screen without explanation
>back to my world

Was I fucking black crystaled? What the hell?
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>>175676340
So do I, but who the fuck is trying to parry a pyromancer anyway?

I only use my chaos longsword to combo with black flame or gcfo.
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>>175669839
rolling henty
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>>175676154
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/188248
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>>175675627
>>175675874
>>175675746
I told this nigga to take a long sword
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>>175676373
>put five levels into strength to use a better flashsword and a worse catalyst
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>>175676386
I think they need to nerf Gael's and the Ringed Knight Twin Greatswords before they touch the halberd.
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Is Knight actually optimal for any builds? Or did I get memed on
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>>175675716
>The counter to running at people without attacking to bait a parry is having a big weapon with HA
Well... OK.
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The hit boxes on Meme Knight Dual Meme Swords are fucking abysmal. Why can't these sushi shitting gooks make a game for shit?
>AH HERRO WE PUTTA GRITCHY PIECE OF SHIT IN RE GAME I HOPE YOU RIKE IT XDDD
God fucking damn.
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>>175676489
More people than you would expect. Hell, you see people trying to parry unparriable weapons repeatedly. They get pancaked, get up, and go right back to spamming.
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>>175676623
It's optimal for every build you dunce
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>>175676623
It's optimal for a 13 STR 40 DEX 60 FTH build.

Other than that it's outclassed by the warrior or mercenary in most cases.
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>>175676623
If you're gonna level vit beyond the Knight starting point, apparently it's better than Warrior.
At that point, it'll just have wasted pointed in attunement instead of luck, but at least attunement can be used to pack a utility spell or ammo for more weapon arts.
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>>175676386

It should be nerfed honestly, even ignoring the R1>WA full combo it has more AR than every other halberd by a decent margin on a single stat weapon, it is objectively unbalanced.

>>175676610

>Gael's

Yes.

>Ringed Knight Twin Greatswords

No they were nerfed enough as is, you cannot nerf them anymore without making them completely useless.
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>>175676723
this post is killing me
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>>175671857
do you reckon its worth it to go through the game to get the more and better estus?
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>>175676379
You confused bud?
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>>175676781
The DUGS still have retarded phantom range on the L1s. And getting caught by that phantom range means certain death.
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>>175676623
Optimal if you want an attunement slot or more than zero mana, and also intend to make use of high VIT.
It's less dominant now because Ring of the Embedded gives VIT, which pushes Knight above the VIT that some builds might want.
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Why is it so impossible to reliably parry the goddamn silver knights this time around?
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>>175676017
Using a certain type of weapon is not a different build type. The build type is sorcery. Being able to switch weapons for different situations is something which 120 more easily allows for. Sticking to one weapon is just stupid.
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>>175676623
It's usually better. If you want an mlgs mage for example it's better, but if you want a glass canon/hypermode mage you go sorcerer.
>>175676870
Absolutely, you only gain from this.
>>175676489
You'd be surprised how many people try to parry sacred flame
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>>175676734
>>175676750
I picked it for faith using stuff like lothric GS, SSS and crucifix. I assume it's not the best starting class for that then?
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>>175676870
absolutely, you're at a serious disadvantage if you don't have maxed estus.

most hosts will have at least as many sips as you if not maxed themselves
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> Invading as Aldrich Faithful just for sheer rate of summons
> At least 70% of invades are straight sword users with summons
> R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
> They run away and chug at every opportunity
> Any hint of lag results in one of those R1's eventually catching me with a phantom range
> Get stun locked by the R1 spam and die

Jesus fuck I'd forgotten how aids the dark sword was in this game.
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>>175677030
The thing that guy doesnt understand is how great long sword pairs up with spells.

People try to roll through your spells but long sword punishes roll spam hard.
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>>175676962

There is no phantom range, they just have hitstun in the start of the first L1 and that extends slightly beyond the tip as all Ultra Greatsword attacks. The range actually gives it useful entry options compared to other UGS, but you can still punish the end of the first L1 consistently if you space well with anything.

>means certain death

There is no way an L1>L1 combo can kill you at max health unless you have less than 27 Vigor.
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>>175677049
I would take knight over cleric for any build that involves more poise than 5.
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>About to win
>CAST THE WRONG SPELL
FUCK
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>You can accidentaly hit red invaders even as an aldritch faithful invader

This makes me sa.
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>>175677021
setup parry still works fine bruh
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>>175677126
yeah it's 200% better, but I'm too shit to do the game on a low level

also, better to be a red or a watchdog? I know watchdogs can basically invade anyone because it's like 20+20% down, but is the matchmaking formula different for reds? I don't see a downside to just being a doggo
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>>175677157
I'm a caster with 30 vigor. It either kills me or brings me very close to death.
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>>175677021
because they gave every enemy at least 1 bullshit unreactable swing with no startup
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>I refuse to invade at low levels until I have more sips than the host

These people learned nothing from DaS1.
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>>175677157
>There is no way an L1>L1 combo can kill you at max health unless you have less than 27 Vigor.
lol m8 that's still a loss, when you have 10% hp left all he has to do is wait and trade hit, you're guaranteed to lose in that spot
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>>175676715
I don't understand, are you disputing this?

Having a big weapon in your hand gives you an option for defeating the feint, if you swing instead of parrying then your opponent will be forced into a dodge. If your opponent goes through with the attack then you might get hit but you also just smacked them with a big weapon. AFAIK that combination doesn't have any bad options.
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>>175677030
>leveling for weapons isn't a different build
leveling str on dex builds isn't a different build either?

I mean you have the spare levels right?
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>>175677351
you'd be a fool not to utilise the tools you are given though, surely?
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>>175676213
You have to do something to counter ultra weapons, theres multiple ways to do so, and having more than one ultra-swinging opponent doesn't change that.

What else can you do? Besides giving up obviously.
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Can someone link the tier weapon sheet?
Wondering what the community thought of the battle axe and millwood in comparison

Im looking for an axe for my 40/40 build.
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>>175677326

Do you have chain on or no armor/rags? It does 700-800 damage consistently against regular players unless they're retarded and get hit by an L1.

And if you're a caster there's even less reason to be hit by it since every casting school now has a fast ranged spell option that can punish DUGS L1s easily.

>>175677414

Or you can space properly since he's still using an ultra greatsword not fall for obvious trades in that instance, and with reasonable Vigor levels (39-44) you will have 30-40% of your health left even in a worst case scenario.
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>>175677298
i could be wrong but i think you also get summoned to the crucifixion woods if you are a doggo.
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Which pyromancy flame is better? Default or parting?
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>>175675992
I'll drop one if you help me mule a bunch of stuff to a new character.
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>>175677584
Parting for Black Flame or Great Combustion, default for everything else
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>>175677523

Millwood is going to be the most high-damaging axe no matter what at those stats. Battle Axe is alright but obsolete, even Brigand Axe has the arguable edge at this point.
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>>175677157
>they just have hitstun in the start of the first L1
The worst part of this moveset is that you can't see it. They cause hitstun during the windup of several moves but there's little in the animation to tell you when you need to dodge to avoid the hitstun, which leads to people either getting caught by invisible stagger hits while waiting for the swords to swing somewhere, or rolling too early because they're afraid of that invisible hit.
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>>175677636
Fuck off. Either you have it our you don't
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>>175677584
Default mostly, parting for black flame.
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>>175677351
the host will have more sips than you in 90% of the cases, and you are already at a disadvantage because he WILL be behind an army of phantoms, probably scaled down ones (which are literally DaS1 tier twinks when scaled down)
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>>175677298
You won't invade Farron Keep as a dogger. You can go there during an invasion, but you can only spawn in the woods.
There's nothing to stop you from just wearing the covenant and doing both, though. If you invade manually wearing the dog covenant you'll invade as a red anyway.
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>>175677584
Scar.
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>>175677209
>middle of a fight
>try to roll into GSoJ L2/R1
>Steady Chant
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>>175677671
That thing needs to be updated with the recent combos we found with scar and DHS.
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>>175677718
No ring for you then
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>>175677724
oh, right, I see

I'm surprised that works. you can be in two pvp "queues"?
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Say what you will about its meme status, but Fallen Knight set + Dark Sword looks cool as fuck.
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>>175677772
Scar is dogshit as a pyro flame though.
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>>175677807
>you go to take a desperate sippy
>it's not a sippy, but actually a cuckree
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>>175677889
I imagine you'd just be kicked out of the Watchdog queue as soon as you use a Red Eye
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>>175677925
Not really. It does slightly less damage, but the utility more than makes up for it.
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>>175678010
that is what I would have thought as well
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>>175677425
Then you're not trying to defeat a parry are you, you clown. You're just fighting a 1H Ultra weapon being swung at you in slow motion. If your point is that choosing the correct option from multiple different options in any given situation is hard to counter, then no-shit. However I don't find myself playing against too many hypothetical example players who only try to parry when I attack, and only attack when I'm expecting a parry.
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>>175677807
>Go for the Steady Prayer
>Gentle Prayer
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>>175677925
Pure damage, yes. It has combos though
>>175677973
Reminds me of that ds1 comic where the dude tried using binocs midfight
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>>175677889
>>175678010

At least you can put down a summoning sign and still get summoned over having e.g. blueberry covenant equipped.
So two queues are possible
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>>175677925
Combos and utility >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 30 damage you lose at 45/45 on black flame.
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>>175677671
Thank you, looked into the serpent hatchet.
Seems to be what im after.
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>>175677875

It is, that's why it was moved up on par with Sabre. The combo is very good but the Dragonhead Shield WA isn't that easy to land within the range to get Scar to hit for the follow-up, plus I'd still say PKCS is better for general purposes.
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What SM should I stay in SotFS? I'm on 2,37m currently, and I want to get some invasions and duels in the future.
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>>175678182
>>175678097
Is the WA worth using at all?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6uyuIQYlfY
remember the hype
remember the lies
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Rate for me? Thinking of finding another shield though.
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>>175677209

>one GHSA away from beating the Nameless King
>cast Hidden Body and get killed
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>>175678182
There's no reason to go 45 45
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>>175676057
I switched to a cosplay quelaana pyro only that I hadn't used in a while.
You were right my man, killing r1 spamming shitters by chucking fireballs is pretty satisfying
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>>175677478
You're not given them, you keep yourself at a set level in parts of the game where natural progression should take you beyond there, to get to a stage where you have more estus and more potent estus than the hosts you're invading, not to mention the better and armor, weapons and rings you get at those stages of the game (if you haven't CE'd or muled them over).
You do all those things so you can pretend there's some semblence of "fair" ground, knowing full well that the majority of the people you will be fighting do not have access to those things, but you justify it because they /might/ have phantoms who /might/ be scaled down sometimes.

You can try to legitimise it all you want, but you really shouldn't be surprised when people rightfully spit on you. You did this in DaS1 because you just couldn't help yourself, you thought it was funny to come in fully decked out in the Undead Burg, and now the tables have turned to a degree, you think you're justified in doing the exact same thing as before.

The only person you have to blame for the state of invasions is yourself. You have no right to complain about anything. Not twink phantoms, not hosts running away to sip, not the old giant tree seeds, not pointing down after you get bodied 1v3, and not people using pulling out instant curse items and slapping you out of the world. You deserve no sympathy at all.

And the best part of it is that you'll read all this, and all you'll have to say for yourselves is
>u mad
>lol autist
Because you don't have anything meaningful to say.

You ruined invasions. Don't complain about the state of invasions.
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>>175678392
I spy with my little eye an itty bitty neckgap. Llewellyn shield?
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>>175678301
It breaks hyperarmor, but generally you don't want to risk a trade as a pyro if you miss the timing.

Better to just use the DHS WA to confirm the combo.
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>>175677209
*kick*
that was my first attempt too
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>>175678392
>Havel's gauntlets
Try again
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Reminder to use Giant Seeds in fun locations
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>>175678475
>double estus
>30% more hp starting
>any phantom I want
You have 10 seconds to justify yourself for not having a PhD in summoning
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>>175678475
People like you are why invaders and twinks always get nerfed

And no I didn't read that wall of text
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>>175678419
Uh...
Wait, what?
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>>175678562
>DHS
?
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r8 pls
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>>175678591
ahh, actually wear iron dragonslayer gauntlets.
But I was messing w/ poise target
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>>175678624
>Wave
Nice """gesture,""" you fucking cancer.
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>175678739
>175678767
Get fucked. You deserve all you've gotten.
The only reason I come here any more is to watch you invaders bitch and cry and moan.
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>the death to interrupt my ganksquad spanking spree is because of the camera spazzing out on a wall

Thank you a-team
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>>175678538
Im thinking llewellyn shield too.
Maybe a medium shield if Im feeling feisty.

I never noticed the gap :((
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>because of PChain, my Dex character now has 71 Dex and can still 2-hand with 50 Str by equipping K***ht's Ring
>still don't think this is enough, want to bump it up to 75 Dex so I can reach 80 with Hunter's Ring

I've been so spoiled by having 40 Endurance, but even 30+5 still feels like plenty. I don't want to go too low in case I ever take off the PChain though, where should I shave off?
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List major flaws or negatives about Ringed City and how you would change it.
>shared grave was short and shitty
Make it more difficult by adding traps and dealing with longer detours instead of literally being trivialized by going through a small shortcut that even has a quest tied to it.
>swamp
Make the swamp have pitfalls like shrine of amana that has visual cues to make it difficult to transverse. Make the giant block the path to Midir but don't respawn after killing it.
>linear movement
Make the dead ends loop by making the first ringed knight area connected to a second path to where Alva invades. Then a middle path that connects to where pygmies hide in corners of Harald alley, add a locked door there that can be opened on one side.
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>>175678475
why would invasions have to be fair? you're there to win

in ds1 you had 99 humanities, and in ds3 you can (especially if you're low lvl pvping) get a high level + lots of estus

it's also a lot more difficult to murder people in ds3, as burg +20 pyro black flamers could not be equalled, max level weapons etc.

I think you are an autist though, because you'd be the person who farmed 99 humanity (read: perfectly fine) in order to high level pvp properly. low level people with people having 7 +10 estus is a bit much I agree, but what's the harm? you're there to murder the host by any means
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>>175678882
Nigga did I stutter?

45 45 is like going 50 or 60 vig
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>>175679045
Spears should have a second feature of territory invading anywhere in the city but first invasion should trigger after you reach the swamp.
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>>175678950
Who are you quoting?
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>>175678936
They were guardspamming the whole time while I was taking cover behind the gravestones, so when I popped the giant seed and they tried to retreat to safety, I thought it was only fair
also
>getting mad at gestures in a videogame
here's one with no gestures just for you
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>>175678246
Anyone? What's the soul memory meta?
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>a host must now consume a wallet soul to summon a co-op phantom with different sizes required for different soul level brackets
>shrine merchant sells wallet souls at 200% mark up

Is the game now better or worse?
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>>175678950
I'm tired of your bull shit. You are now filtered. Well, technically not you but this style of posting numbers.
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>sage ring doesnt speed up WA
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>>175678475
also I don't think anyone ever complained about the state of invasions, you're just being pissy about reliving the Good Old Days™©
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>>175679243

why would it?
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>>175679239
buying co-op partners is certainly interesting idea
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>>175679239
>using souls to hire mercenaries
Could be fun.
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>>175679243
>unzipping frayed blade at 400% speed

fuck off
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>>175679239
You people are taking a for fun side coop feature way too seriously.
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>>175678059
>Then you're not trying to defeat a parry are you, you clown.

I don't know where you got that idea, this whole thing is about running at people to make them whiff a parry so you can run behind them and punish with a backstab. I just mentioned that certain people have a good way of dealing with that particular strategy, which seemed like the kind of thing you might want to know if you were going to do it. If you want to get all autistic about it then just stick to rolling kicks with the horsehoof ring.
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>>175679082
>why would invasions have to be fair? you're there to win
>GANK SQUADS ARE BULLSHIT FROM PLS NERF SEEDS WAAHHH WOWWWW HE PULLED THE PLUG WHAT A SHITTER AT LEAST I GOT THAT MORAL VICTORY IN PLACE OF A TONGUE
This is the mentality of invaders. It's unfair if they're not winning.

175679241
Yeah, I'll definitely miss you, I don't know how I'll fuckin' cope lmao

>>175679304
What general have you just tabbed in from where that's true?
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>>175678624
My proudest moment as a blue ever happened there.

I was doing a hypet-str dragonsis build and was summoned in to help a first-time-through pyro who was stuck at the bonfire. The invader was running around near the giant.
>equipped my +5 my Milkwood bow instead of my AGS
>roared
>drew the WA arrow
>saw the invader moving towards the ladder
>said fuck it and let the DS arrow fly on a whim
>It literally hit him directly in the head as he did the turn-around anim to get on he ladder and then blew up and sent him off the edge of the wall to his death

First shot.
From the damn bonfire to the ladder past the giant.
Didn't even expect to hit.
The host did the prostrate animation as I faded clapping like a bad ass.

I'll never do anything so awesome ever again.
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>>175669839
rolldog
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>>175679348
>unzipping
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>>175678916
Dragon head shield.
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>>175679447
At no point in this reply chain did anybody cry for a nerf of any kind.
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>>175678475
>so you can pretend there's some semblence of "fair" ground
Uh, no? The whole purpose of invading is to be an asshole to the other guy and fucking murder him in the most horrific way possible. Having more and better Estus just makes it better.

>the majority of the people you will be fighting do not have access to those things
You act as if invasions should be a symmetrical and fair system of combat, when in fact it is designed for exactly the opposite of that. Invasions are not honorable duels, you retard, there's a reason why invasions and summons have variable ranges so that you can get invaded by people with a 10% level advantage over you.

>because they /might/ have phantoms who /might/ be scaled down sometimes
You understand nothing of how the game works. When you invade, the system PRIORITIZES worlds that already have phantoms in them. So at least 90-95% of the worlds you invade, the host will have buttbuddies by design, and can bring in at least two more by equipping an item you get in the first level.

>u mad
It's quite obvious you are, because of how little you actually know about how the game works.
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>>175679361
>side coop feature
>literally 100% of the playerbase plays with phantoms at all times
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>Summoned in NG high wall alongside another phantom
>Someone invades
>We 1v1
>Close and fair fight, no sippies
>He wins
>Points down

What did he mean by this?
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>>175679493
>he doesn't unzip his katana
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>>175679447
i mean sure, the noob bitches think the state of invasions are bad because they don't win (read: the people who scream the rubbish you said about gank squads pull the plug etc)

gank squads ARE bullshit and so are the old seeds. I do not see your point? just because they're bullshit doesn't mean they have to be changed

I think you're just looking to complain honestly, do you pvp at all?
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>>175679447
>Des through BB: "Invaders exist to balance phantoms."
>DS3: "WTF do you mean I have to fight phantoms?"
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>sorc, bluecop summoned on an invader with a darksword
>he's R1 spamming
>pretend to be committed to using only spells and backpedaling
>he makes a run for it
>pull out parrying tool as he's running
>he still makes the running attack
>PARRIED!
>pull out MLGS
>he actually pulls the plug
That was hilarious. I don't even mind missing the ear.
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>The whole purpose of invading is to be an asshole
To then come onto /dsg/ and cry about how gank squads were assholes to you.

Wew lad.

>>175679668
My point is invaders deserve every bit of bad they get, and have no right to complain when bad things happen to them and people spit on them.

And yes, I do.
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Anyone want to do some gank squads at pontiffs like our old vicar events?
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>>175679768
>boasting about a lucky parry
I would've rekt your ass if I was trying, scrub
I was just cosplaying a shitter, wasn't it obvious?
I wasn't taking the fight seriously and then you went full tryhard with the parries so I said fuck you, pulling the plug.
Try having some fun next time, will ya.
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>>175679045

>Access to TRC feels arbitrary and unnatural

Killing Friede in Ariandel or Twin Princes now gets you an item that allows you to access Dreg Heap from the Dark Firelink in Untended Graves or Kiln.

>Gael didn't have enough or a presence up to his final fight

Add dialogue encounters with him in TRC or the vanilla game upon purchase of the DLC with you encountering him on his quest to find the Dark Soul. Finding all of them changes the intro cutscene of Gael's fight to him more clearly recognizing you and appearing regretful before attacking.

>Dreg Heap enemy variety (Thralls mostly)

Replace most of the Thralls in the Earthen Peak section with a combination of Murkmen, the Crucifixion guys from Road of Sacrifices and Grave Wardens.

>stretch of Ringed City from the second bonfire to the third is weirdly long and linear

Add a shortcut elevator from near where Shira is to the Mausoleum Outlook bonfire.

>Spear of the Church sucks and has too many people trying to get ornaments

The boss is now Argo himself who is very tanky and summons Spears of the Church to defend him along with Painting Guardians to defend himself. Spears of the Church can also now be summoned in the Mausoleum Outlook and Ringed City Streets area when the Judicators there are aggroed until they are killed.

>not enough invaders on the main DLC patch that relate to the Locust Preachers dialogue

Orbeck now invades you in the Grand Archives area of Dreg Heap. Cornyx invades in Earthen Keep. Sirris invades outside Filianore's Chapel. And Karla invades you in the swamp at the cliffside. These reward new spells related to each of their schools respectively.

>lack of reward from giving Blood of the Dark Soul to the Painter

Giving it to her will now earn you a new Ember that is infinite use, and the Handmaiden in Firelink Shrine will now sell infinite Slabs and infusion gems at high prices.
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>TFW you remember that time you fought off 2 alritchs with Yhorms machete and felt mega good after winning

>You will never get a normal invasion like this
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>>175680142
>Karla
>invading the love of her life
Lmfao
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>>175679591
>in fact it is designed for exactly the opposite of that... there's a reason why invasions and summons have variable ranges
If the design of the game is the last word in how this stuff should work, then I guess you don't have any complaints about the way DS3's invasions are designed?
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>>175678936

Who the fuck gets mad at waving?
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>>175680270

She'd be hollow or insane at that point like the rest of them presumably.
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>>175677897
>comically large sword
>big fat head
>belts, straps and rope all over body

6/10 wouldn't bang
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>>175679746
It was usually easier to kill people just in general in those previous games, it makes a big difference.
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>>175680142
>Spears of the Church can also now be summoned in the Mausoleum Outlook and Ringed City Streets area when the Judicators there are aggroed until they are killed.
That would be pretty cool. Make it so that they can only summon two spears and die after summoning the second one. Of course, it should be on a random interval to prevent spear spam.
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I'm looking to make a low level PvP character (Talking pre-watchers red invasions) Anyone able to recommend a decent SL/Weapon Level to aim for? I'm unfamiliar with how matching works in DS3
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>>175679935
just a question, why do you play dorkmoon?
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>>175680304
You're implying that I am one of the people whining about Seed or gank squads or whatever.

Not everybody who's replying to you is the same boogeyman, friend.
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>>175679746
the difference is that fights in general are chugfests, so taking turns healing for free is fucking massive
not even counting the extra flasks and health hosts get
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so i just came back after a couple months of not playing and my fps drops far more often, like before it wouldn't be consistent 60 always but it would be decent. Now it drops to 30 at any given moment, it's fucking annoying I just want to play
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>>175680463

SL 35 / +4
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>>175680657
I'm not the person you were replying to, and I wasn't implying, I was literally asking. With a question mark.
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>>175680142
>These reward new spells related to each of their schools respectively.
>Orbeck drops Unleash Magic/Soul Geyser
>Cornyx drops Lingering Flame/Immolation
>Sirris drops Heavenly Thunder/Karmic Justice
>Karla drops Dark Hail/Climax
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>>175680356
No not the best waifu!, but your concept is not even a bad idea. It's great but damn having most of the shrine try to kill you after being fast forwarded in time would be in theme.
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>>175680539
The same reason you invade.
>>
Spears are the worst meme "weapon" ever implemented in this game. Using them in PvP makes you untouchable.
>Poke at opponent
>Opponent has to roll to dodge
>By the time they've come out of the roll to attack you you can just roll away
>Repeat ad nauseum
>>
There seems to be a disproportional amount of angry hosts mashing that alt+F4 today
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>>175680957
>use spear
>guy with longsword has more range than me
??????
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>>175680957
>apply poise
>get big weapon
>trade hits
Problem solved.

I mean if you try to play the medium range poke game then why the actual fuck are you surprised that spears are good at it?
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>>175680957
Well you gotta deal with the ganks some how anon
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>>175680957
spears aren't even that good lmao
halberds are fucking retarded though, they have been ever since DS2
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>>175680957
I get so tired of seeing noobs complain about shit that is very easily countered.
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>>175680463
depends on where you want to invade
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended+Level+by+Location

Farron is an unusually good place to invade because it deters phantom summoning, but you need a supply of moss to comfortably invade there so it requires a bit more setup.

highwall is also good, you will have to fight off hordes of phantoms but this is the only bracket in which invaders have an advantage so it evens out
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>>175680373
>>175680675
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>>175680921
You help shitters because you hate shitters? Give a proper answer.
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>>175680958
And a disproportional amount of angry invaders who got cucked out of a kill and had their time wasted, so now they pretend they got some kind of moral victory.
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>>175681154
I don't why I thought you'd have anything to actually say beyond this sort of shit.
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>>175677247
>reds and faithfuls dont understand that they are on the same side 90% of the time

gives me conniptions
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Any of you guys interested in doing a fight club on ps4 in like 30 mins?
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>>175681148
... fuck, now I want to try and make Raziel from the Soul Reaver series.
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>>175681258
Post more dragonbro videos.
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>>175681364
What sl
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>>175677878
That wasn't even me, what the fuck. Anyway, I'm done for today. If you're still around tomorrow, I don't mind helping you mule stuff for the ring.
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>>175681014
Sounds like a personal problem.

>>175681063
>le just change your entire le build! dark souls 3 is a fine game! :^)

>>175681071
Halberds are also fucking annoying

>>175681101
me namea jefff xDDDD
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>>175681392
fuck off dragonsis
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>>175681287

I don't get this. I consider it a victory if I get a host salty enough to disconnect. The whole point of invading is to mess with hosts and prevent them from progressing as quickly.
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>>175681410
Shit forgot to add that.

SL is 132.
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>>175680373
>DS2
>easier to kill
We are talking about the game where the host got 3 phantoms, could estus and the only thing an invader could do was use miracles/pyromancy? The game where rolling actually cost stamina and if you get Brazzered then there was actually no way to get out.

I'm glad there are no more games in the series because holy fucking shit every goddamn game it's "INVADING IS SO MUCH HARDER NOW IT WAS SO GOOD LAST GAME"
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>>175681314
>invade with hyper lightning archer
>aldritchbro SERIOUSLY outnumbered and running toward me while being chased by the cops and phantoms
>"i got your back" i think as i start piffing lightning arrows towards his pursuers

>he starts trying to hit me just because i have 1 hp

>he chases me around while i am actively not attacking him until he finally catches me with a bullshit straightsword phantom hit
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>>175681472
What kind of shitty build did she have?
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>>175681457
>why is my specific build bad at this specific scenario, why isn't it always good against everything.

Anon I get that you have mental issues but really now, why on earth do you expect to win a midrange poke battle against a weapon specifically designed for midrange poke battles
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>>175681148
Whenever I invade highwall on a new character I just get put into a twink FC
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>>175681258
Nah, I don't think I'll explain myself to a bottom feeder.

>>175681539
You wasted your time for no reward, and pretend two minutes of extra gameplay on the host's part is something to be proud of.
That's a mentality I don't get.
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>>175681669
I'm not trying to midrange poke you fucking stupid meme headed reddit reading cock sucking piece of shit. I'm trying to get close but can't because of the 9gag range on spears.
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>>175681392
Hey dragonsis, I'd show you something better then some measly dragon bros
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>>175681735

>You wasted your time for no reward

What reward, tongues? Whether I kill the host, waste their time, or get them to disconnect, I'm still getting fun out of it.
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>>175681541
>132
i guess
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>>175681614
Blues are reds that couldn't beat ganks. That blue just forgot to change covenants.
see, it's too embarrassing for them to admit it:
>>175681735
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>>175681735
>reward
Anon are you seriously actually invading for the ingame rewards it gives you?
Honest question since the majority of people do it for the sake of it rather than the actual rewards tied to invading.
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>>175681767
Why are you do dumb lol?

You could just parry, use a shield, or trade them with hyper armor.

Instead of walking into their hits lmao
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>>175681614
haha it's just a game bro, lol just turn off your brain lmao
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>>175681901
>more incoherent reddit babble
my naaaameeaaa JEFF Xd
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>>175681767
>walk into spear without heavy armor/Iron Skin/a shield
>get stabbed
>complain on /dsg/
>win duel

That don't make a lick of sense anon
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>>175681886
Do you seriously invade for rewards? Lol

What are you planning to buy with all those vertebrae?
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why is this general so shit especially the past few days
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>>175681614

>Invading in the Catacombs.
>Another invader spawns in vs a gank.
>Take advantage to backstab the host while they're distracted with him.
>Invader suddenly makes a beeline straight through the gank, ignoring the injured host, and makes it his mission to ward me off.
>Back off and leave him to get dogpiled by the gank while I shoot Millwood arrows into them from afar.
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>>175662675
I used the Demon Fists on my monk, along with a bunch of other pyros. It was pretty fun.
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>175681876
Self-fellating, weak-ass shit. "Oh, you just couldn't cut it, my style of play is just too hardcore for you". "I invade because it's FUN, that's what I tell myself when I get cucked at least, did I mention I hate ganksquads?".
Why did I expect anything more from a bunch of bottom feeders?

Real reason is that I've picked with fights with bullies on other people's behalf all my life, so being the fun police speaks to me on a pretty fundamental level. And I already got all my vertebra shackles from dicking around at Aldrich, so hey.
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>>175663176
this lmao

>>175663115
kys
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>>175681707
weird, never happened to me. i did run into a few twinked out ganksquads though.

are you invading at +1 or +0?
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>>175682134
>more reddit lack of reading comprehension

No
>Roll past spear, far too skilled to be hit by such attacks
>Because of the distances involved, by the time I come out of the attack they roll away
>Fight goes on forever because they're unhittable

Have you ever considered touching your own prostate you fucking shit?
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>/dsg/ is slowly going back to comfy ded
About time
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>>175682251

It's just a game man, calm down nigga.
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>>175681472
t. 27 VIG
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>>175682251
please. no more. I literally cant take it
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https://youtu.be/I1Gw3kfkXGk?t=285

NEW META IS HERE BOYS
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>>175682251
What did he mean by this?
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>>175682339
>keep rolling into spears
>it's not working
>host is still alive
>complain on /dsg/
>win duel

I don't remeber subscribing to this blog, now take some advice and stop rolling is the answer to everything, or don't, I'm not your mother
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>>175682339
Nigga use a shield and you are invincible to spears. Why are you so dumb?
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Are Ringed Knights pygmies?
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>>175677473
Meeting requirements is not the same as meeting a scaling softcap.
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>>175682594
based overlevel'd 120 tard
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>>175682384
I suppose that can work for casters who feel like AFKing a lot.
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>>175682578
Yes. Presumably almost everyone in the Ringed City is, except for the obvious exclusions like the giants. Fuck knows what Shira's deal is.
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>>175682578
ALL humans are pygmies.
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I guess it's time for me to finally do a dex build

What's the most fun?
Pure dex, dex/fth or dex/int?
Any recommended weapons or spells?
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>>175682820
No
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>nig slave gael
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>>175682524
>reddit
>reddit
>reddit
Shut the fuck up stupid cunt.
>le dont roll so u actually le walk into le spears and my first post will be right! stop ruining my memes!!!

>>175682568
Holy shit, more incoherent reddit speech. Can you even speak American?
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>>175682735
If you're going to complain then don't bother making builds at a level you disagree with.
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>>175682847
you have the biggest variety of buffs with dex/fth, slap the boss's weakness on sellsword twinblades and you'll destroy anything
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>>175662503
Invading at High Wall with Vordts Hammer is so satisfying
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>>175682938
nig SLAVE GAEL would be OK
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>>175682820
Technically but as of Ringed City we know have two branches of humanity, one actually refered to as pygmies.
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>>175682939
What is this meme? If someone calls you stupid they are automatically reddit?
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>>175682847

Pure Dex, Crow Quills, Sellsword Twinblades, Frayed Blade.
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>>175682847

Both Dex Faith and INT have good options now.

Dex Faith you have Bident, one of the best weapons in the game along with Murky Hand Scythe and Sunlight Straight Sword. Technically all these work just as well if not more optimal on STR/FAI builds but they still are viable for Dex. Spells to have for this are definitely Lightning Arrow, Darkmoon/Dark Blade and Projected Heal, with other options including Lightning Stake, Bountiful Sunlight and Sunlight Spear.

DEX/INT is more about Friede's Great Scythe and Aquamarine Dagger along with slapping buffs on a Sharp weapon. Good spells to pair with that are Great Farron Dart for chips and Homing Soulmass for spacing. Also Snap Freeze to pair with Friede's Scythe. If you're keeping INT at 40 use Heretic's Staff or Witchtree Branch for cast speed.
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>>175682769
She's the daughter of the duke, does that mean she is the adopted daughter of Seath?
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>>175683162
Reddit
Reddit

Lol loser
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>>175683238
word
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>>175682938
use cyrillic/capital letters
http://www.unicode.org/Public/security/latest/confusables.txt
(to search for a letter, search it followed by a space and a closing bracket, for example for g search "g )")

SlaveKniցht Gael
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Somebody wants to start a comfy fight club on ps4 with /dsg/ bois?
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>>175682384
Wasn't there an anon doing a dual Executioner's cosplay some months back, who was getting double the FP? Or was that just placebo and/or patched?

Also worth noting, you don't need to get the kill with the Sapphire to get the FP regen, a regular backstab/riposte that doesn't kill will still recover FP. Same applies for the Ruby.
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Who want co-op?
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>>175683226
Yeah I don't know why the fuck she says that. Seath is both long dead by the time of Dark Souls 3 and probably never had anything to do with the Ringed City anyway seeing as he lived in the outside world.
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Can I get a quick rundown on Alfather Lloyd and the "outside" world?

Are you teling me there's still normal humans in Dark Souls?
I thought everybody was undead/unkindled and couldn't really die.
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>>175682820
Maybe YOU, manlet.
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>>175683447
Do you need help or do you want to help?
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>>175683594
sounds like he just wants to have fun
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>>175682287
+0
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>get around to buying the ashes of ariandel DLC finally
>haven't watched much about it, don't know how to go through the levels
>decide to go through on my qtpie SL80 glass cannon pyromancer
>reach the crow talon fuckers

>switch out Flame Clutch Ring for Ring of Steel Protection
>switch out cute sub30% equip load pyromancer clothing for heavy fucking armor
>start beating them all to death with Iron Flesh and a +10 raw weapon, constantly recasting it so Iron Flesh never runs out
fought these fuckers normally for a solid hour before i ran out of patience
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>>175682384
There's no real reason why the Handmaiden Dagger effect of restoring FP on hit couldn't have been applied to a bunch of viable weapons, or even been the effect of the Simple infusion. You could also triple the numbers, and that would still be fine. Passive regen was a mistake, they really missed the boat on making mana interesting.
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>>175683564
Watch DS1's intro.

The world was fiiiiiiiiine, sort of, in a berserk "the church was evil and the gods were actually complete assholes" kind of way but people lived their medieval lives and shit was fine.
Then people became undead and shit stopped being fine, then shit went really goddamn poorly, then the gods gave up on the land of gods and ran away, then DS1 happened and the rest of the series from there on
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>>175683416
My sl is too low.
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>>175681707
everyone with a phantom in highwall is literally just trading gear
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>>175683416
Would you show up?
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>>175683743
Should have used rapport anon
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>>175682938
>tfw you're the C**sen Und*** and you gotta fight a ***** K***ht
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>>175683373
You can't copy-paste into the name field though
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>>175683452
She's been in the Ringed City ever since it was established by Gwyn, and her job was to protect his daughter. So odds are that she's as old as the "gods" themselves and just isn't aging since the Ringed City and its inhabitants are locked out of time.

She probably doesn't have any draconic features because Seath was a fucked up mutant who didn't have any scales. So she takes most of her genes from her "god" mother.
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>>175683857
i didn't encounter anyone trading in the 3 straight days i have invaded there, what i did find was a lot of people with one or two phantoms just progressing
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>>175683871

At high wall of lothric? Or do you know a comfier place?
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>>175683226
Or, you know, it could be some other duke.
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>>175683971
You can with Collector's Edition, presumably. Or just insert blank characters anywhere inside the offending word.
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I think out of all my first playthroughs I enjoyed DaS3 the most but oh man is it a slog getting new characters to where I want them, probably my least fav in that regard.
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For anyone having trouble getting Darkmoon summons, I've been chasing around locations with several Hosts of Embers, fucking around there for a bit then moving to a new location, and it sems to be working - I've had a lot of summons in that time.
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>>175682847

Pure faith is a lot of fun once you get either lightning stake or something stronger then lightning spear. Healing teammates and bleeding bosses in 2 hits never gets old, and lightning bow is immensely useful.

Dex faith is probably the most fun, and if you add enough STR to use the Twin Princes GS you're in for a treat. You can still hit reasonably hard with 40 fth (don't believe the lies) and you can buff a lot of weapons.

I'm actually going to start a Dex int build next. I've never given the aquamarine dagger a shot, but it looks promising.
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>>175683971
you do have collector's edition right anon
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>>175682847
For maximum FUN. Sharp Sellsword Twinblades with OWCS on your back, then get min stats for Carthus Flame Arc, start adding a bit of INT for the buff on your Twinblades. Finally add Friede Scythe and Aquamarine.
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>>175683564
There are still plenty of regular humans in the world of Dark Souls. You actually meet one in game in the form of Eygon.

Allfather Lloyd is a god we don't know much about. From the original game we learnt that he was Gwyn's uncle and seemed like an important deity to the Way of White, but we didn't learn loads about him. By the time of Dark Souls 3 some religious shift has seen the Way of White relocated from Thorolund to Carim, and Lloyd is now regarded as an idol and no longer worshipped. Given that he apparently has a major role in the pantheon, but nothing plot important relates to him, people speculate that he saw an opportunity to assert himself as the new chief deity after Gwyn went to link the flame.

What exactly do you mean by 'the outside world?'

>>175683840
Nothing really indicates the Way of White was evil. Their treatment of Undead wasn't spectacular but I'd say regular people have every reason to be afraid of Undead.

>>175684009
I guess I just assumed Shira was a pygmy rather than a god, and if she is then her not aging would make sense.

>since the Ringed City and its inhabitants are locked out of time.
I doubt this is exactly what's happening, given that the city's inhabitants have turned Undead, the city itself is falling apart and different groups of people have managed to arrive there, so its clearly not completely static. I think it's more like Filianore maintains some sort of illusion over the city or some shit.
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>>175684087
Given that her crown has a pearl from one of those clams you find in the Crystal Caves, it seems pretty clear that Miyazaki is implying that she's Seath's daughter.

But since it's Miyazaki, that obscure hint is literally the only thing to point in that direction and there's nothing else, so that the community can fanwank ideas for Plagiarizing Nintendo Fanboy to steal.
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>>175684071
Could do it at the spear church in the dlc, but SL should the fc be?
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>>175684358
>Nothing really indicates the Way of White was evil
They shipped off people they didn't like to die trying to get the rite of kindling, they also had people worship Gwyn and Co long after those guys were dead.
Also worshiping gods that are not actually gods and so on. The way of White were on Gwyns side, Gwyn was a self obsessed shit that only cared about his fellow gods, they were evil by the merit of being race traitors whos goal was to keep humans subservient to the gods.
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>>175662503
Are you going to play this new ARPG shit from Bamco
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Dark Souls 4 when?
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>>175684264

>Pure faith

Sorry, I misread what you posted. Pure Dex is certainly stylish. A Sharp follower saber should get you through most of the main game if Sellsword Twinblades bore you. Frayed Blade and Murakumo are great for that build, so is Twinspears.
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>>175684361
Ooh man took me a while, but I realized you meant Vaati lol. Wouldn't be surprised he's browsing for some material for his monies
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Is there some shortcut or an easy way of getting to Sir Alonne? That path with lizards and Alonne Knights is a pain in the ass.
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>>175684358
>What exactly do you mean by 'the outside world?'
There has to be more cities and stuff beside Lothric right?
Don't tell me DS1 and DS3 take place in the same "country"
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>>175683816
Regen in general in DaS3 is all kinds of retarded fucked up, the only way it becomes worth it is if you Evil Eye +3 and/or Pontiff's Left Eye into a bunch of worthless mobs.

I suppose they wanted to make Ashen Estus actually worth allotting, which is why literally every other option outside of the banner glitch is shit. If you're doing a melee build and only use a WA in every other fight, a Simple off-hand +9 or +10 can regen enough mana to keep you going through an area.
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>>175684660
god no, it's from the same devs that produced the absolute gutter trash known as god eater.

they made a strictly worse version of monster hunter and now they're making a strictly worse version of souls, they STILL haven't learned how to animate properly either.
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Anyone on ps4 up for pontifu sillyman? Sl 60 pass dsg
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>>175684660
I'll wait for a sale, but probably.
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>>175684797
DS1 takes place in Lordran
DS2 takes place in somewhere else, DS2's DLCs take place in even more out of the way places
DS3 takes place in a literal manifestation of the world ending, time and space being so convoluted that everything is inside, on top of, and connected to everything else.

If you want a look at the "outside world" as it were go play DS2, that's the game about the Age of Man in a different land.
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>>175684983
Would but I'm close to killing Midir
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>>175684358
>Nothing really indicates the Way of White was evil.
The Archdeacon Holy Garb implies that Way of White eventually collapsed and became Deep worshipers. But that's later in DaS3, and not in DaS1 (though the idea of an evil church isn't just a Miyazaki thing, Maughlin's dialogue in DaS2 shows that the Blue Sentinels are very much the same thing).
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>>175684797
Your do realize that the place you fight Aldrich is literally the same room as O&S? Lothric is build upon the ruins of Lordran. There's a outside world implied since daS1 though.
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>>175685212
Good luck ~ !
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>>175685069
DS2 takes place in verdite

BB takes place on another mainland on the opposite side of melenat from verdite in a different period of time
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>>175685256
No, all the lands are converging on Lothric
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>>175685314
Wouldn't that be boletaria assuming the map from DeS is correct and the DaS2 continent is on it?
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>>175685379
SEEMS ALL ROADS LEAD TO GRAN SOREN
AIGHT

AIGHT
AUGHT
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>>175684887
Ashen Estus would still be worth allotting for anybody who wants to cast more than they melee. As long as regen was active instead of passive, you'd also still be justified taking Ashen Estus to use heals. If you come out of a fight battered and don't have a lot of mana, do you really want to go hit more enemies while on low health to get enough mana to cast the heal?
Passive regen is bad mechanically because it encourages you to sit around and wait for it if you're really struggling in PvE. Sitting around and waiting for a very slowly recovering bar isn't fun.

It would be fine for WA's to be usable regularly without going OOM, because the WA's aren't a big deal anyway, if anything most of them need to be more usable.
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>>175684635
>they didn't like
They sent away Undead, not political enemies. You know, people subject to an incurable condition which meant they had a chance of becoming insane, unkillable soul eating monsters?

>they also had people worship Gwyn and Co long after those guys were dead
Gwyn died, who else? And just because someone's dead doesn't mean you instantly forget about them, especially if they're a religious figure. You do realise there's several huge religions in the real world based around worshipping and following the teachings of dead guys, right?

>gods that are not actually gods
Dumb meme. They are gods. In the Dark Souls world that's what a god is.

Gwyn wasn't evil. Power hungry, yes, but not evil. Even when he tried to shepherd all of humanity into the Ringed City, he gave them the Ringed City. You know, the fucking beautiful metropolis? It's not like he put them in a box and gassed them. Gwyn cared enough about the world and all its inhabitants to set himself on fire for its sake. He could have just let all the humans turn Undead and chilled with the gods in Anor Londo, but instead he sacrificed himself for everyone. He even gave part of his soul to human rulers.

Plus, there's nothing that indicates the Way of White knew about Gwyn's asshole side. They're not evil just because Gwyn did some questionable shit thousands of years in the past.

>>175685249
The Cathedral of the Deep alone succumbed to that problem, not the WoW as a whole. The rest of the religion is still going strong in Carim, as we learn from all the items relating to Morne, as well as Eygon and Irina's presence in game.

>>175684797
Yes, there are several countries and lands beyond Lordran/Drangleic/Lothric, such as Astora, Vinheim, Carim and Mirrah. I don't really get what you're asking/what you want to know. There's different kingdoms, they each have a handful of lore.
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>mfw people are trying to trade with Ledo
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>>175685656
i forgot about this map, it's outdated now but still mostly correct. melenat can be seen from yharnam and from drangleic/verdite but the actual position of yharnam is anyone's guess
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I am going to marry Midir and none of you can stop me.
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>>175686340
Shut up Shira you stupid slut
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>>175684983
Still need help?
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>>175685929
The thing I hate the most is that greatshield bashes require FP, whereas parries do not.

And I do agree with you on a lot of those points, though I'll still hold onto my SPR since it makes going through Farron Keep much less of a headache. Simple and Blessed should probably work as an on-damage recovery effect, so that you don't just infuse them to the lightest possible off-hand and walk around. A bunch of the other ones should be boosted considerably, to make them worth equipping regularly and not just hard-swapping for a few cheese kills on weak mobs.
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>>175685314
>>175685656
>>175686198
>Trying to unite lore from different From franchises
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What's an easy to use build to win this game? Thanks
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>>175686505
>connecting the dots that are already traced
i mean you can choose to deny it of course but there's far too much evidence now.

especially now that valicia is the canon world of dark souls.
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>>175685929
>but not evil
I implore you to reconsider your definition of "evil", because try running around the streets saying all niggers should live in their own little world walled of from the rest of us white folks. Surprise surprise, the majority of society does not seem to share your world views.

Gwyn only cared about his own race, this is fact established by DS1 and his fear of an age of dark/men/anything but an age of fire
Gwyn fucked up everything and made untold millions suffer by his choice to try and extend the age of fire
Gwyn allowed Seaths experiments
Gwyn gave the 4 kings a part of his soul, the 4 kings turned out the way they did, he is a terrible judge of character
Gwyn had humans worship him for no real reason other than his own ego
Gwyn had children, sold them off and straight up forgot about them

Gwyn a shit, the way of the white were collaborators.
The greatest trick Gwyn ever played was convincing humans that he was somehow needed or beneficial to them, human civilization existed BEFORE the age of fire, so much so that they made fucking plate armor and swords.
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>>175686609
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They will post it everyday hoping a big time you tuber steals it
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>>175686340
Is this dragonsis or Shira?
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>>175686585
uninstall. Youll never lose
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>>175686721
Go back to your ganksquad billy, adults are talking about the lore.
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>It's a aldritchfag does jackshit episode
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>>175686609
According to whom? Where was it stated?
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>been waiting since DeS for a flail weapon
>never got one

Rose of Ariandel isn't even close. Where's my Man-Serpent Axeflail?
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>>175686946
From the description of Old Moonlight:

>A memory of an old sword found deep within Midir.
>The sword is named after moonlight, but it is slightly different than the one fashioned of the paledrake Seath. Perhaps it is rooted in an older memory, from not long after the Beginning.
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Why don't we have comfy PCFCBFs anymore?
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>>175687197
?
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What's the meaning of the ending where you summon the firekeeper to put out the fire, and then kill her? Is it just trying to usurp the fire like in the Lord of Hollows ending, but without being a hollow?
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>>175687197
Go to the discord and be a fag there
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>>175686710
>this is fact established by DS1
How

>fear of an age of dark/men/anything but an age of fire
Boy howdy you mean he shouldn't have feared the age which causes everything to turn to absolute shit as it draws ever nearer, and should have happily thrown away the age where everything good ever happened?

>Gwyn fucked up everything...
>>Gwyn could see the future
>>Gwyn set himself on fire for laughs not for any reason
>>Extending the Age of Fire and giving the world a few thousand more years of happiness is somehow worse than letting it go down the shitter immediately

>Gwyn allowed Seaths experiments
Where is the evidence he knew about them?

>the 4 kings turned out the way they did
Not his fault

>he is a terrible judge of character
Quite possibly but that doesn't make him evil. Plus almost fucking everyone in Dark Souls turns evil or has some fall from grace, it's not like the 4 Kings were uniquely evil or directly his fault. They were tempted by Kaathe.

>Gwyn had humans worship him for no real reason other than his own ego
Yes, egotistical asshole, not necesarily evil.

Gwyn's treatment of his children is undoubtedly quite fucked up, as was his segregation of the pygmies (though again, he gave them a free paradise to live in and a fucking dragon to protect them, he didn't throw them into Blightttown and call it a day). As a whole though the world flourished under the guidance of the Gods and the Age of Fire. Humanity is literally inferior to the gods in the world of Dark Souls: the Dark makes them passionate but also selfish and negative.

>The greatest trick Gwyn ever played was convincing humans...
So then why would the Way of White have been exceptions? They're not collaborators if they didn't know they were getting fucking rused.
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>>175669839
let it roll
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>>175687072
>no man serpent twin daggers
>no man serpent great axe
Imagine a Man-Serpent head as a great hammer. Some like the Gargoyle Tail Axe, but a big fucking snake head that induces poison.
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Why did the gods put a seal of fire on the armours of the ringed knights and their wearers? Does that mean that the curse of the undead wasn't just a thing that happened because the fire was fading, but was also purposefully crafted by the gods?

Also what's the relation between the ringed knights and dark wraiths? Are the former just earlier versions of the latter, that wandered to the rest of the world?
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so how do I get the most punch out of the caestus Stat wise?
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>everybody points down when I cast Vow of Silence and lose anyway

You said this would be fun, anons.
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>>175687402
>a fucking dragon to protect them
>darkeater
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>>175687073
I mean the "Valicia" stuff.
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>bluecop summoned into post-Pontiff on my squishy sorc
>host and other cop on one side
>two Aldrich invaders and one red invader on other side
>alright, even numbers!
>other bluecop rolls off a ledge
>host takes off sprinting

>brazzers logo
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>>175687542
Well now we have a pretty clear distinction that the Abyss that swallowed Manus and the Ringed City were two different entities. Perhaps the seal prevented them from falling too far into the abyss? The Pygmies weren't particularly shy of the darkness, though, considering they harbored the Dark Soul to begin with.
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Are spells like pestilent mercury affected by cast speed?
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>>175687402
If humans are from the abyss, and Midir's job was the fight the abyss it's more likely Midir was there to keep them down.
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>>175687713
yes, i know.

the description of old moonlight is specifically mentioning the moonlight sword, which was a sword created by guyra, one of the watchers of valicia. the sword from the spell itself is also a perfect replica of it.
it also mentions it being from "the beginning".
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>>175687542
I don't think the gods/Gwyn would have created the Undead Curse on purpose, because what's the point in having all your worshippers turn into zombies? I imagine they created the Darksign, the 'seal of fire,' to keep the power of Dark within people contained, but towards the end of the Age of Fire it starts to weaken and the effects of humanity losing its seal is the Undead Curse.

Ringed Knight gear was created from the Abyss, and presumably Darkwraith armour was also created from the Abyss by Kaathe, which is why the two look similar. There's not a connection between the Ringed Knights and Darkwraiths though.

>>175687696
>>175688036
Good point, actually, I hadn't thought of that. I still don't think Gwyn was evil but the Ringed City does show him to be way more of an asshole than I previously thought. Personally not a huge fan of Ringed City lore and don't think it really clears up any questions as opposed to just tacking unnecessary additional lore onto our understanding of the world as provided by Dark Souls 1 tbqhwyfamalam.
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>hosts keep dying to midir
STOP JUST LET ME TAKE HIM ON MY OWN YOU IDIOTS
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>>175687402
"Gwyn feared the age of man"
-Some random NPC we don't know or care about who has no impact on the plot

>Boy howdy you mean he shouldn't have feared the age which causes everything to turn to absolute shit as it draws ever nearer, and should have happily thrown away the age where everything good ever happened?
Refer to Dark Firelink Shrine in DS3 or the Ring city armor/weapon descriptions in DS3, an age of Dark wasn't nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be, you even had candle makers and shit.
As a side no Entropy isn't inherently a bad thing.

>Where is the evidence he knew about them?
Other than living right next to it? He either didn't care enough about the humans to notice it happening, in which case he gets a point on the evil slider for being callous as fuck, or he knew and didn't care, either way he is a shit.

>4 Kings
Doesn't matter, literally the point of the 4 kings is to illustrate that Gwyn didn't know what the fuck he was doing, the 4 people he chose for their wisdom ended up being complete fuckups.
Again he either knew this would happen was was Evil for letting it happen, or he didn't know it would happen and was just an extremely poor judge of character, a trait associated with the bad team.

>Yes, egotistical asshole, not necesarily evil.
Someone forcing people to worship them on no grounds other than "I like it" is very much evil. It really really honestly truly is, your moral compass is fucked if you think otherwise.

> Humanity is literally inferior to the gods in the world of Dark Souls
Nigga the Ivory King built Anor Londo 2.0 not actually full of assholes this time around, he then proceeded to remove the threat of Demons for forever, all the while making the manifestation of the Dark Soul give up its dreams and hungers for power.
The gods were in no way superior to men, that was a lie started by Gwyn, after he was so scared of the strength of men that he tried to seal them off in a pocket dimension, perpetuated by clerics
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>>175687073
>>175688134
>References and easter eggs are now lore
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>way of blue doesn't work against watchdogs
looks like the ganker... has become the ganked
but no for real, does territorial pvp covenants not trigger sentinels?
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Ds2 finished

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve18i57ST0U
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>lol pussy
>little bitch why won't you fight me with my buttbuddies 3v1 quit running away XD
What was your latest "fan mail"
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>>175688368
it's not a reference, as stated in the description
"different than the one fashioned of the paledrake Seath."

it's already been pretty obvious that the worlds are the same since dark souls 2, since valicia explains many of the CONVOLUTED elements of dark souls lore perfectly
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>>175688452
you're the one "invading" their territory
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>>175684358
>Eygon invades you in the ringed city, thousands of years after the main game
>Is somehow not undead

Really makes you think
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>>175688490
from ur mom when she was craving my dick again lmao
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>>175688452
sentinels should be able to but signs down then dissapear after an invader kill
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>>175687515
Its been discussed a few times, but the man serpent chain axe just wouldnt work in das3

There are so many possibilities for cool weapons in game, but the only ones that actually make it into players hands are easy copy paste movesets with the occasional unique WA, or assets that they can straight up recycle

>no puss of man hex arm transformation
>no chain axe
>no man serpent twin daggers
>no golden winged knight weapons with tweaked movesets
>no evangelist grimiore
>no giant pot
>no unique weapons off sully dogs
Like really. reskin a fuckin gs or dagger and give me a rib tooth sword or fang dagger shit
>no sully boss paired weapon
>no crucifix from the fuckers in road of sacrifices that modifies unarmed moveset and possibly adds physical buffs
>no actual big ass branch pike

and the list goes on and on. hell if they tweaked movesets slightly around how enemies in game use them slightly then it would atleast feel like there was a little more variety
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>>175688473
>going to get married to a reasonably attractive souls man who is making lots of $$$ and everything is going great
>he DUMPS you out of the blue

i kind of feel sorry for fieldy. i wonder what the hell happened.
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>try sl 60 aldrich invasion
>"scaled down" phantoms everywhere

I thought this was going to be fun. ;_;
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>>175684358
Eygon is undead, you doofus. He's just not unkindled
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>>175687636

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
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>>175688759
That could be nice. Like make them only visible during an active invasion or something.
There'd be blue signs fucking everywhere, though.
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>>175687402
>selfish and negative.
Ironically enough a trait that the Gods display far more than the humans.

The gods made their own city on mount Olympus, to be away from the humans, while only caring about what happened to other gods. Then abandoning even their fellow gods as soon as things started going poorly to try and save their own skins, reminder that Gwyndolin was the only god left in the "City of Gods" because every other god was too selfish to stay behind.

The gods were as human as the humans were, they displayed the same positive and negative traits, on top of being mortals. The division between gods and humans in the souls universe was by no means superficial, but humans were inherently BETTER than the gods
>can live in the abyss before the age of fire and have a thriving society
>can live in an age of fire
>can divide up their own power without diminishing returns, essencially copying it at no downside, unlike the gods who actually had to give up power to bestow it upon someone else
>can't die unlike the gods

Man was better, the gods were parasites, this is all shit thats told to you by the game
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>Silver Knights guarding Aldrich while he is raping Amazing Trap

Why
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>>175689018
The deep is one hell of a drug.
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I can't take it anymore. I'm going to do it. Dragonsis here I come.

Any veterans have any tips for a first timer?
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>>175688778
When did this happen?

Also shes mildly busted. Maybe homeboy feels like he can trade up
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>>175689018
They got DEEPED
I heard their particle effects for 'bleeding' look like aldrich's spunk, but I never remembered to check for myself
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>>175688778
he don't want nothing to do with her haunted ass vagina after her nth miscarriage I guess
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>>175689163
Help yourself to a nice, tall, refreshing glass of Ajax to get the ideajuices flowing
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1: Great PvE, shit PvP
2: Shit PvE, great PvP (later on [for Souls standards])
3: Balanced out but just not great at either one
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Even though humanity's true nature and true power lie in the abyss is it really better for them?

The abyss aligned human factions are all unequivocally fucked up and evil, just look at the darkwraiths, church of the deep, sable church, etc

Look at what the abyss did to Wolnir, Irina, etc

Is that really better than Gwyn's world?
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>>175689469
Actually three is shit pve, shit pvp
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>>175688230
>the effects of humanity losing its seal is the Undead Curse
But the seal is the darksign, and the darksign is the reason people lose their humanity when they die.
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>>175689354
you're getting him confused with ENB, lobos doesn't want kids.

i think that might be why the breakup happened actually.
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>>175689354
You're thinking of ENB, who was the dumpee, not the dumper by the way
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>>175689163
Wear the Fire Clutch Ring to increase the power of your fire breath and the Calamity Ring to channel the power of Kalameet, a true dragon.
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>>175669839
rolling
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>from will never release the source code so we can fix their game
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How do I deal with Midirs thrash attack? I'm dodging every every attack but this one is the one that keeps killing me.
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>>175688778
>>175689181

Lobos' end just said he broke up with her, this is all she says on her end.

https://twitter.com/fieldyfieldy/status/856458852706988032

>I'm heartbroken and hurt beyond belief, but the simple truth: I deserve to be with a man who'd rather take me on a date than play videogames

Makes it seem like there was some issue around all his time spent on twitch or something.
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>>175689650
ENB should have finished any of his youtube lorethrough playthroughs
he got what he deserved
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>be Gwyn
>be pretty much ruling the world
>start a royal bloodline
>make the amazing city of the gods
>link the fire to extend the age of fire

>be the witch of Izalith
>create pyromancies
>try recreating the first flame and thus give birth to the whole demon race

>be the furtive pygmy
>divide your soul and create an entire mighty race of humans

>be Nito
>??????????????????????????
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>>175689908
was that really necessary
dumb broad
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>>175688306
"Gwyn feared the age of man"
-Incredibly trustworthy jew snake who certainly never tempted two different citystates into gruesome destruction

There's never been an Age of Dark. The Ringed equipment was made from the Abyss but that does not require an Age of Dark to exist.

We don't know how often Gwyn visited the archives. We don't know, if he ever did, if he had reason to go look in Seathe's dungeons or labs instead of just chatting with him over a book and some tea. We don't know if Seathe's experiments on people even started before Gwyn left to link the fire: that was about a thousand years before the first game, that's an awful lot of time for Seathe to decide 'oh great that other asshole's gone let's get wild.'

>literally the point of the 4 kings is to illustrate that Gwyn didn't know what the fuck he was doing
Or the point was to show that Kaathe is a tempting asshole and the Abyss is a terrifying, corrupting influence?

>no grounds other than "I like it"
How about "I'm one of the three most powerful beings in existence and I helped establish the world as you understand it"?

I'm not talking power levels. The games constantly refer to shit like 'ruinous nostalgia' when talking about the Dark, about finding comfort from sinking into bestial and primitive urges, a trait the gods lack.

>>175689003
Anor Londo and Lordran had human inhabitants.

Not sure how humans being able to survive entering the Abyss is a positive trait.
>can enter a seething shit hole of corrupting Dark because they already have it inside them, unlike pure waifus and husbandos such as Artorias
Like if that makes them superior to gods then are demons superior to humans because they can live in lava and humans can't?

There's no indication that humanity could be split more freely than light souls. There's more humanity because humans age, so unlike the gods they're more inclined to fuck, and reproduction leads to more souls.

>can't die unlike the gods
Only Undead.
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>>175687072
same...
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>>175688849
>farming watch pup shrubbery at 120
>damn near finished just off goat drops when I finally get a summon
>1 host 2 phantoms
>both phantoms nerfed down

"fun" is subjective anon. you just have to get off on overcoming the odds or atleast getting some cheeky action

Also what level would a player have to be to get nerfed when an invader is coming in at 120?
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>>175669839
fuck it rolling
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>>175689489
Those factions that revere and worship the Deep/Abyss seem pretty content. If you reject or try to control the Abyss though, you seem to get fucked.

Fear not the dark, my friend.
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>>175690003
glue skeletons to your ass
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>>175690003
>be nito
>be dead
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>>175690003
When it died, Nito had to make sure it stayed dead. I feel like that was the purpose of the Gravelords, to ensure that whatever had died was dead, and whatever came back was to be killed again. His creation of the Milfanito and Fenito was to ensure that the dead stayed dead, and in peace.
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>Lothric is pure magical boss, even more so than the Crystal Sage
>his souls can be made into a Faith scaling sword

Why can't sorcerers have nice things?
>>
What sorceries actually worthwhile for PVE?
This character is probably never touching PVP so stuff about spacing and mind games don't matter to me
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>>175688734
>imblying invasions/summoning obey the natural rules of time and space
You can summon Dusk across time and get Tsorig to beat the shit out of himself.

>>175688867
He literally says to you when you meet some shit like "you Undead," implying he's not a part of the group. He doesn't say "you Unkindled" like some characters who are Undead but not Ashen.

He certainly could have become Undead at some point, but when you first meet him at least he's not.

>>175689556
I don't fucking know man. You think even Miyazaki knows what he's doing any more?
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>>175669839
let's do this
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>>175690251

He's casting miracles in the fight though, including Faith based versions of Soul Spear.

>>175690289

For PvE the only sorcery that's worthwhile is Great Heavy Soul Arrow and that's it. Pestilent Mercury also has a niche against Midir and other bosses you can cheese with it.
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>>175690251
Lothric uses the same kind of white faith magic as the angels and mangrubs
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>>175690003
>be Nito
>be the most chill god of death ever and mostly just nap
>unchill fucks want to steal your power and kill you n' shit
>continue napping
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>>175690375
>You think even Miyazaki knows what he's doing any more?
I like to think he does, that prevents discussing lore from being pointless.
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>>175669839
rolling
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>>175689489
Dark kiddies don't realise that the world of Dark Souls isn't like real life, as actual factual supernatural forces tied to emotion and the nature of life decide what is and isn't okay/safe. In the world of Dark Souls subservience and guidance from the Gods is literally the better alternative than freedom for humans.
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>>175690003

>Gwyn was consumed
>the Witch was turned into a bug
>the pigmys got eaten by Gael/Manus went wild
>Seath went mad
>the Four Kings fell to Kaathe
>Nito just chilled

Best lord.
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>>175690375
> "you Undead," implying he's not a part of the group.

A major part of Eygon's character was the air of smug superiority about him. He was better than everyone else in his own opinion.
It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest if he knew he was Undead, but was in denial so he just doubled down on his assholishness.
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>>175689908
>wow why are you doing your job and paying the bills instead of giving me attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
Lobos deserves better, indeed.
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Why does Midir have black crystals on his body
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>>175690650
>>175690650
>>175690650
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>>175690623

ABYSS
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>>175690623
They're the reason he's so good at killing phantoms
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Does using a greatshield you don't have the str requirements for reduce its stability + defence? Or just its damage output?
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>>175690251
>faith scaling sword

A DEX favoring sword that 'technically' has faith scaling, yes.
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>>175690052
>There's never been an Age of Dark
Yes there has. Alluded to by DS2 and the whole "linking the fire doesn't mean shit as someone will do it so ages of fire and dark come and go all the time", flat out shown to you in DS3 with dark firelink shrine.

Do not confuse the Abyss with an Age of Dark, an age of Dark is evidently not a giant empty void of nothing.

>Or the point was to show that Kaathe is a tempting asshole and the Abyss is a terrifying, corrupting influence?
Lord Gwyn recognized the foresight of these
four great leaders of New Londo, and granted
them their ranks and the fragments of a
great soul
Gwyns foresight was the 4 kings.

>How about "I'm one of the three most powerful beings in existence and I helped establish the world as you understand it"?
As proven by DS2, men can do as much if not more, refer to Iron King for making animated suits of armor, Ivory King for the great demon genocide and Vendric for literally finding a cure for the undead curse.

Also you keep trying to go over this fact but human civilization existed BEFORE the age of fire, they had goddamn plate mail, that shit needs an industry to actually be made so clearly humans weren't cavemen banging rocks together.

>here's no indication that humanity could be split more freely than light souls
Humans. I mean really how is this a point that even needs to be discussed, there were no downsides to humans making more humans and having more of the dark soul around.
The games very often make explicit points about how the gods lose power when they share it.
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>>175690236
>When it died, Nito had to make sure it stayed dead
>his entire area is filled to brim with alive skeletons
>the entire world is populated with undead
>even fenito are technically dead
Well he didn't do a very good job now, did he?
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>>175690612
While that would be completely in character for Eygon I don't believe there's anything in game which points towards it.
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>>175689908
huh, shes actually more attractive than I thought she was

>>175690045
>broad

key word. If you could think of more than a couple of times in your life that youve seen shit go down, and a female didnt make a scene on social media about it, then its probably a single person who is just level headed
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>>175690623
corruption of the abyss
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>>175690375
No, he says "All you faceless Undead", implying the difference between normal Undead and Unkindled
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>>175690867
He was very busy and very tired, and had to find a way to adapt to things coming back to life, and teach the Milfanito to sing properly. He was a busy man, maybe just decided to take a nap because the land was a lost cause.
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>>175687303
Ashen One "seeketh ember", they crave the fire like a lot of individuals in Dark Souls, if you choose to kill the firekeeper, your character pussies out and keep the flickering flame for himself because he is afraid of it going out
It's one of the best ending desu
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any of yall play on xbone? i need a mule. i wouldnt mind returning the favor of course or even throw something in for you if you want something.
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>>175689908
>Get dumped
>Whatever I deserve better anyway!

LOL
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>>175676723
Yeah that weapon art is kind of hard to dodge with the fucking shitty latency that's present in 4/5 match ups.
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>>175669839
Rolling again
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>>175681294
I don't know why you think what you said was deserving of anything more than that. It seems to boil down to "I hate that people can keep up with my healing now that grass and humanities are gone."
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>>175689908
>Makes it seem like there was some issue around all his time spent on twitch or something.
nah thats just her trying to pretend that she is too good for him. women just as easily flip it around and say they arent focusing enough on their career
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>>175680539
Because i need those fucking ears
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Best and True Ending. Firekeeper would much rather be dead then sit in the dark with you weeb fags.
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>>175690236
>>175690609>>175690003


He created the rite of kindling
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Is there a large difference performance wise b/t 29 and 31 poise using a black knight greatsword?
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>>175698679
According to what?
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