/indie/ - Indie and Obscure Games General

Undertale is good

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>>175584473
I come here just for the spooder.

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Are there any GOOD OHRRPGCE games?

>>175587467
>OHRRPGCE
The what now?

>>175587467
Void Pyramid

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Guys this game might sound great

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/expeditions-viking-lets-me-be-the-wimpy-viking-i-knew-i-could-be?utm_source=wptwitterus

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I'm past a point where I can select my party and it's great

Also Isaid it before but Cosmic Star Heroine's soundtrack is tops

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>>175587467
Bloodlust

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Rate my farm, and why the fuck is iridium so hard to get?

Middle of summer / Year 2.

>>175589787
Lewd mod when? I want to destroy my wife's ass.

https://youtu.be/BrdRZ1uFTbo

Bumping with FTL bullshit

>>175589936
That had better be your wife (male)

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Any indie strategy game? Something like AI War?

>>175590965
Tfw no games with predominantly femboy casts

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>>175576805
Aaaand it's done.
I enjoyed doing the cloak, that was fun

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>>175584473
I'll usually need at least 2 notes of recommendation before adding a game to the list and reasons why other than "its good".

>>175370331
>>175513826
I really liked the short novel that was about the Witch's POV and was a prequel.
I'd be interested if there was anything new being added.

>>175587623
Online card game platform

>>175588691
Fake news

>>175588691
Fake news

>>175588691
Just wait a month or so until it's fixed (>>175485201). It's not a coincidence that it's rating went down to 68% (274 reviews) in the meantime. E:V must be an experience that deserves to be enjoyed without annoying technical issues.

Does Stardew Valley have smithing or just farming?

>>175599816
no smithing, just farming

>>175599816
Just for upgrading your farming tools basically, but you give the materials to the blacksmith rather than doing it yourself.

>>175600317
>>175600603
Dammit.
When will I get a game that will allow me to fulfill my recycling fetish?

>>175600926
You can recycle trash into an RNG common item.
Play Factorio.

>>175588691
I'm def excited about it but I'm going to wait before I jump in, don't get fooled again

>>175601198
That's not really what I want.

To tell you the truth, I'd like a game where I can just go kill a bunch of bandit, take all their weapon, dismantle them to keep only the blade, melt them ingot, and then make an armor out of it to get even deader.
I should just mod Skyrim, but the combat in that game is not fun at all.

>>175599816
There's a mod to Smith and completely ignore Clint. Good if Emily is your wife

>>175602426
Oh boy that sounds pretty nice. Oblivion with craftybits was kind of like that but it was a CTD fest

>>175603021
Honestly, I think that Oblivion's combat was even worse than Skyrim. Did the entire game with a shield and a sword, and it was all block>attack twice>block>attack twice>block>heal

>>175603182
Oblivion had better combat mods than Skyrim but they're constant CTD fests.

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>>175602426
thats the closest you'll get buddy.

I'd like a game with necromancy, but with actual depth to it: like sperg levels of detail concerning corpse procurement and preparation.

instead all I get in games is learning some generic spell called "summon undead" and I just instantly shit out some temporary, uncustomizable AI zombie out of thin air and some of my mana gets used up

we just have to learn to live with compromise

>>175602426
Sounds like Cataclysm, Dark Days Ahead
Disassembling things into their component parts for use in crafting plays quite a big role in it

>>175603443
CTD?
Also, never tried any mod for Oblivion. I played it vanilla. Modded the shit out of Skyrim once I finished it and it was pretty fun.

>>175603525
Shit, that sounds nice too.
I want a game where I can raise my necromancy to leve max, and then get the power to resurrect whoever I want. Be it NPCs, bandits, or even DINOSAURS (yeah I just watched Jurassic Park and I want to pat Hammond's back) .

>>175603818
Oh yeah, I heard about that one. Apparently, the unarmed combat system is also good in that game, you can go Jackie Chan or The Rock.

>>175604367
C:DDA is basically a survival roguelike, so combat is just whacking things with the directional keys, but you can certainly beat the shit out of zombies pretty good.

>>175604665
>so combat is just whacking things with the directional keys,
It has better ranged combat than most other roguelikes tho

>>175604665
Dunno, I remember checking a wiki, apparently you can pull a lot of complicated stuff to break things' limbs.

>>175589787
nice farm
> greenhouse
> all pomar trees grown
> iridium sprinkles
doing better than I was first, took forever to finish that bundle
still seems like you have too much of the farm to the wild
>>175589936
same

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>>175604367
closest I've ever gotten to my dream was Fliggerty's Blasphemous Revenants for Morrowind.

you'd kill an NPC, and you could make a lesser zombie right there with their corpse, but if you wanted one of the greater undead you'd leave their corpse on the beach for mudcrabs to strip away the flesh, then take the skeleton back to the necromancy hideout, reinforce the joints with netch leather and scrap metal, add meat, wrap the new body up like a mummy, and let it soak in one of several different vats giving it different properties for like 30 days - and then you finally got to summon it.
I enjoyed that.

I think someone made a fanmod of it in Skyrim called Corpse Preparation or something but just didn't do the original justice in terms of detail.

>>175605246
That sounds really nice. What if you replace a few bones? Like, you pick these Oblivion beast, the one that look like dinosaurs, the clannfear. You kill one, you take the head, strip away the flesh, put the skull on your skeleton, and bring it back to life (?).

>>175604367
Crash to desktop.

>>175605782
Ha.

>>175605672
IIRC based on the race of the NPC, the final product would have varying degrees of strength, so orcs were the best as they had the most durable/strongest bodies, and elves the weakest.

also I just remembered you had to transport a corpse/skeleton by slinging it over your back, which made you slower and if you got seen by an NPC with that, they'd report you for necromancy/gravedigging and you'd get a 1000 gold bounty.
it was a pretty good mod.

I don't think you could do the same with monsters though, I think it was only restricted to the common race NPCs, and no switching of specific bones - an orc skeleton was an orc skeleton whole.

>>175606308
Still not bad.

The sad part is that even if we get a game with that amount of level, other parts of it will suck.
Like in Magicmaker. It has a very nice amount of crafting when it comes to spells, kinda like Lichdom, but the fights are just about spamming the same spells.

>>175606642
IDK, depends on the studio/devs.
Starbound, Stardew Valley, and Starsector are all indie and they turned out pretty decent.

but I get where you're coming from: if a half-assed team ran with the concept I'm sure it'd be lacking in other parts of the game.

>>175607946
>Starbound
>very decent
What.
Last time I checked, it was a piece of trash where you can from planets to planets to mine because mining is so fucking fun.

But yeah, I'm not just talking about indies. Games that have a quirks tends to focus on it too much and neglect the rest.
For example, Borderlands is very proud of their gun drop system, but the problem is that outside of the guns, there's almost nothing. You have one ability per character, and everything else is passive. For a game that was sold as "Diablo 2 with guns", it failed to deliver to that regard.
So of course, you'll say that the guns are the main focus of the game and that it's a bad example, but a quirk isn't a game. If you were to make a game where you just craft skeleton without putting a story behind or add other stuff to it, it's going to be boring really quickly.

>>175607946
Starbound is considered to be a dissapointment on many fronts.
I liked Stardew Valley but it doesn't come close to its inspiration. Combat is crap, farming has no depth, and courtship is shallow.

>>175603525
i kinda wanted to make a game about an archaeological dig being run by necromancers, but then i realized that would be effort

any /cbg/ here (aka cities skylines)?
I know its kinda pretty popular, but that general been long dead

>>175610012
It's /civ4xg/. They also accept /cbg/. For fuck's sake, I bothered putting it in the tags.

Is there any game that let me do that :
http://nypost.com/2015/09/01/day-care-workers-had-young-kids-brawl-in-fight-club-videos ?

>inb4 Dwarf Fortress

>my PC runs Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain perfectly
>Dark Souls 3 is smooth

>Insurgency 2 and Cortex Command are laggy as fuck
Well, not exactly laggy since it's offline, but they're SLOW.

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>>175613172
>Cortex Command
Wasn't it, like, abandoned by devs a decade ago or something?

>>175613172
It's okay, everyone has been misusing "laggy" to refer to low framerates for way too long. You can do so too.

>>175613332
That might explain a lot.

>>175613373
I don't know if lag refers to online lag only or if it's also input delay. That also happened a few times.

>>175613469
Lag in the context of vidya refers to latency. Network latency. Ping times. But it's convenient to use it to describe any kind of slowdown, low framerates, freezing and such. English lacks good words for that.

>>175610012
Sort of. I've been having "fun" with adversity.

>>175613986
Okay then. I'll just call it lag and not bother too much with it.

>>175612008
HellMOO

>>175606642
>Lichdom
Speaking of that game, how do I fucking play? I understand that charging attacks means doing a critical attack, but every fucking monster is a bag of HP and requires over nine thousands attacks.

>>175613986
Stop spreading bad info
>>175613172
Insurgency is poorly optimized compared to most games, source doesn't help. You can turn down some settings but don't go too low our else you lose the skybox

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>>175607946
>tfw you realise the key of having a successful /indie/ game is putting Star in the title

BRB, gotta start developing my first game titled Starving Bastards: The Mustard Upstart

>>175588691
wasn't someone in this thread playing a Expedition game? Are they fun

>>175608381
>For example, Borderlands is very proud of their gun drop system, but the problem is that outside of the guns, there's almost nothing.
Which is a shame because, the gun system isn't worth any of the hype and the franchise has better points.

The touted gun numbers of Borderlands are ridiculously exaggerated. While this may seem obvious to some, it is technically possible (and even fairly easy) to achieve such ludicrous numbers. However, achieving such numbers in any meaningful way is arguably impossible.

In reality, there's only a handful of prominently different weapons, less variety than in any good diabloclone. Yet they chose the number of guns as one of their franchise-defining marketing point. whywouldyoueverwanttodothat.jpg

Gameplay-wise, majority of the weapons are trash and those mountains of trash only serve to lengthen the grind to get the weapons you want to use. When even unique weapons are generated from random parts, the grind to get what you want is kind of nasty. You end up playing through most of the content with subpar weapons, whatever drops you happen to get. I guess the design intent behind that is to keep the player addicted to the looting process, but lame weapons really ruin FPS gameplay. I've rarely felt same way about diabloclones.

And it just gets worse in endgame. What was the best way to to get endgame weapons? Fun bossfights? Or at least grinding cool high level areas? Naah, you loot the fucking armory of Knoxx with a bug until your brains melt.


Sorry for the tl;dr off-topic crap, I'm slowly getting to some sort of point here. Even with all that bitching and moaning, Borderlands games are among the best AAA+++ shooters from recent years. It's just that... why most big-budget games are crap when it comes to the actual game? It's like there's some law of nature that dictates that game mechanics and gameplay become irrelevant once enough money is poured into assets. I guess that is why I love indies.

>>175617362
Good theory, but how come Terraria is vastly more successful than Starbound? Because it has falling stars?

Any updates at all on Hollow Knight? Not even a hello from the devs? Didn't see anything other than "DLC Soon™" last I checked their site.

>>175618123
>but how come Terraria is vastly more successful than Starbound? Because it has falling stars?
terraria has a team of devs that aren't comically incompetent and fill the game with "features" that actively make the game worse

>>175608381
I recently tried to play Starbound with a friend but we both got bored and quit. It's still not a fun game. It doesn't matter how feature complete it is or will become, it's not fun

>>175618123
Falling stars that deal damage, no less.

For late game slime rancher, what's a good thing to fill excess pens with?

I was thinking Crystal/Something, since crystal apparently has an even higher base sell than quantum, and you can merge them with some other mid-tier slime to get decent profits.

>>175618263
Aw come on, you're way too serious. Anon's star theory was good.

>>175618429
i didn't fall for the starbound meme but i still get a bit angry over it because i'm friends with people who did

>>175618481
I enjoyed both Terraria and Starbound with friends. Where is your god now?

Starbound was way better long before release, though. I never understood why they removed all the fun techs.

>>175618123
Terraria came at the right time, is somewhat functional, and has good word of mouth. That doesn't mean it's a whole lot of fun (mining resource gathering will NEVER be good gameplay) but whereas Terraria was first and came before people realized how awful those games are, Starbound is post-masquerade and only the insanely curious give a fuck

>>175618005
>Gameplay-wise, majority of the weapons are trash
Just like every hack'n'slash. I never really understood the logic behind these games.

What bothers me most with Borderlands is that it always go like that :
>find a weapon, let's say a Hyperion pistol
>get used to its peculiar quirk, do really well
>damage fall behind and you're forced to pick a new weapon because everything kills you before you can chip their health
>find a torgue weapon who has excellent damage
>suddenly you play like shit because Torgue bullets aren't hitscan and the dispersion fucks you up

If it was Grim Dawn or Diablo 2, I would just stop using that weapon and use spells to compensate for my shittiness, but I can't in Borderlands because you only get one spell and it has a long recharge time.
Not only that, but because the game is so peculiar, your usual gamer reflexes of clearing the trash before focusing on the boss is actually the opposite of what you should do. More than once, I died because I automatically tried to take out the trash first.
Medikits are always extremely rare, you have no potions to chug, and since your hitbox is larger than you think, you often take bullets even when you're behind cover.

At least Handsome Jack saves the day, but jesus, that game made me rage a lot. Maybe as much as the souls games.

>>175618272
I hate Starbound because you mine. I hate mining, it's a cheap way to make your game artificially longer.

>>175618951
Okay, you personally loathe mining resource gathering. Doesn't make the game bad though.

And back in reality, the amount of resource mining you do in Terraria is minimal. Most digging you do is exploring and later on biome control. I'd understand if you were hating on something like Minecrraft for too much mining, but not Terraria.

Terraria Gen died. Long live /indie/.

>>175618951
>(mining resource gathering will NEVER be good gameplay) but whereas Terraria was first and came before people realized how awful those games are
just because you hate a type of game doesn't make it bad

unless it's a moba

Fucking Rimworld.
>start a new game
>get a cat
>can't train it
>look at his health
>has cataracts on both his eyes
>"maybe that's why I can't train it!"
>get another cat
>can't train it either
A shame, I wanted to train them to attack.

>>175619886
Mod it.

>>175619696
fuck off (((Terraria gen))), we don't need your """"""game"""""

>>175620023
are there mods that let me succ the cat

>>175620717
are you catfucker

>>175620717
Maybe, but I meant to mod it yourself. Whipping up something like that shouldn't take longer than 5mins.

>>175620826
yes

who did you expect?
sportaflop?

>>175620926
why are you still here

why do you still torment me, after all these years

why do you feel the need to attention whore over raping your cat

>>175619632
>Just like every hack'n'slash. I never really understood the logic behind these games.
No, I didn't mean it that way. Okay, most drops in any hack&slash are trash if we're talking about rarity.

But the weapons in Borderlands, even if we assume everything has the same rarity and level, most weapons are trash. The weapon system is a huge wasted opportunity because most weapon part slots simply have plain inferior/superior stat variations, not actually any different stats or functionality. There is not much choice, you just want the best parts. Most players probably don't care how weapon generation works so they never discover how lame it actually is.

So what I'm saying is that any hack&slash worth its salt actually has more weapon variations than Borderlands. Weapon variations that matter.

>>175621051
i do it for the memes

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Mini Ghost is pretty fun and has level, tile, and character editors

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>ask for good jrpgs last thread
>get several AAA games back
wut

>>175621223
>Most players probably don't care how weapon generation works so they never discover how lame it actually is.
Well, actually, I never bothered with that myself. I know it's a randomly generated system about varied parts, each with its own effects, but the problem is that, like in every hack'n'slash, you can't get attached to a weapon.
Unlike, I don't know, Dark Souls, where every weapon is theorically viable, Borderlands forces you to change weapon constantly, and the annoying part is that weapons are so damn differents between each others that by the time you get used to a weapon, you're already switching to a new one.

And I'm not fond of making elemental damage so relevant in a game that's so random. If I could at least get some item to temporarily change all my damage to elemental one, it would be less of a pain in the ass, but sometimes I feel like I'm playing with a huge randomizer.

And of course, the enemies always have perfect accuracy and damage, and there's no armor in that game.
And enemies scale. Fuck scaling.

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Looking for a recommendation. Which is spookier, Scanner Sombre or Thimbleweed Park?

Also looking to pick up Rain World because I hear it's a game that'll keep me playing for a while.

>>175623024
Oh, that girl looks cute.

>>175623024
Oh, that boy looks cute.

>>175623024
Oh, that cat looks cute.

>>175623024
i wanna hug him

>>175622474
Do you have the edit of that picture where it says stuff like "Lots of treasure here, do go farther!"

>>175623024
Neither games are really that spooky.
I really liked Claire though, it's like 2D Silent Hill.

And Rain World is pretty fun, but difficult. Still haven't beaten it yet.

>>175622520
>you can't get attached to a weapon.
>Borderlands forces you to change weapon constantly
That was only a real problem in the sequels. If you found a good ass gun in the first Borderlands that thing could end up being your new best friend for 10 to 15+ levels easy.

>>175623839
lmao

>>175623934
I admit it, I only played Borderlands 2 and the pre-sequel, because Axton and Jack have the best skills.

When I tried to play with Zer0, I got killed so often I gave up and even thought about getting a refund.

>>175610319
really think there is the better place to post this kind of thing
I mean, there is enough shitpost as it is, meanwhile this thread nearing extinction

there are also other games like Transport Fever, that would into the same category
and technically both are indie developers

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>>175623839

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>>175623713
do not corrupt my daughter-fu

>>175624362
how have i never seen this before

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Speaking of survival games.
There's Don't Starve for a Burtonesque experience with the weather being really important.
There's Rimworld for a Dwarf Fortress lite approach.
There's Project Zomboid for a roguelike approach with zombies everywhere.
There's The Forest for a "build your own cottage, lalala, fight cannibals, lalala, try to find that kid from the intro, lalala~" approach.
There's The Long Dark for the Canada wilderness with Commander Shepard where losing is the only option.
There's ARK for shitting in another player's mouth and taming dinosaurs.

But is there anything taking place in a huge, abandoned city? No monsters, just pure survival?
I'm thinking of Twelves Monkeys, I Am Legend (without the vampires), or 28 Days Later (without the Infected). Ideally, something like Stalker, but without the bandits, just the wild animals, and you counting your bullets and deciding if it's worth it.

>>175624913
i wouldn't do any more than that

well
if he wanted to, i might kiss him

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Nice guns.

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>>175622474
pretty creepy desu

>>175629109
that's smiley and like, phoenix I think? or something

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>>175627808
>There's The Long Dark for the Canada wilderness with Commander Shepard where losing is the only option.
lol, good description, btw any news on development?
also interested if you find that type of game

>>175629258
The red one is Shades's Revolver, they're the Trigger Twins' guns. If you have both of them at the same time their max ammo gets doubled and their magazine size increases.

>>175629561
>"There will be one more Sandbox update before Story Mode launches. More details about that update will be available soon. The team continues to be hard at work, creating the best experience we can for you. We appreciate your patience while we do so."
So Story mode coming soon.

Otherwise, I'd like to find a survival game with spooky ghosts.
Seriously, Harvest Moon is a perfect game for a survival : you prepare food, equipement and then engage on an expedition. Kinda like Thea, a game that /civ4xg/ suggested, except that Thea gives you several people to take care of.

>>175629916
Oh so that is shades'? I see his so infrequently I forget what it looks like.

Yea I know the synergy, I just don't think I've ever gotten it.

I've so rarely ever gotten a good gun/item from the normal shop

>>175618272
The only good idea with Starbound is that you get different loot depending on how you killed the monsters.

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>>175629949
> Thea
its a very nice indeed, if I'm mistaken I was one of the first ones to suggest over at /4xg/
also prime /indie/ example, excellent developers

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>necropolis is just dead
>no updates ever confirmed

>>175633564
Frankly, if it wasn't for the fact that it's turn-based, I would be all over it, it seems to be right up my alley.

>>175633564
>>also prime /indie/ example, excellent developers

No wonder, all four of hem are ex-CD Projekt RED devs. Also, fun fact: the 50k copies they sold in 6 months after the game's release already covered the costs of the entire development. A year passed since then, it'd be exciting to know the figures now.

>>175634395
>if it wasn't for the fact that it's turn-based

But that's the very essence of the game. They even developed a custom, hex-based Unity framework for it. (Yes, you can buy it in the official store. Especially that it's -30% off right now, which means an $52 price tag.) It was a perfect choice in my opinion.

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What are your favorite weapons to use in Battle Brothers? I like to use flail because it lets you ignore shields?

Which ones do you like the least? I find maces pretty lackluster. Maybe it's just bad luck, but for some reason they seem to miss a lot more.

>>175639748
Not enough nipples(male) shown there!

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>>175617703

I played though Expedition Conquistador a while ago, it was super fun, and I thought it was rather flexible in terms of how much it allowed you to be a moralfag or a jerkass. Also, it had a delicious brown loli princess you could recruit.

>tfw no mod that lets you romance her

The combat is Tactical RPG, where you move your guys around on little hexes, kind of like Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea.

>>175639748
I love spears, even though they seem to effectively fall flat with too many of em.

Axes seem to be the most well rounded since they do some heavy hurtin but also take out shields.

And yeah, maces miss so goddamn often. There's a guaranteed-stun perk I took for one of my dudes... but he never connects so it feels like he stuns at the same rate lol.

>>175593741
is there a "forever in development" section for games like CLASSIC GAME?

>>175589787
It's easy to get after year 3, but before then you only really need it for iridium sprinklers, and those you can buy from Krokus for 10k a pop every Friday.

anyone hyped for STRAFE?

>>175645726
eh!

>>175645726
Not really

I was hyped until I've learned that it's a rogue-lite

>>175592940
looks cool

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Anybody know if there's a combination of these two cheats? I tried stacking them but it doesn't work no matter what order I put them in. I wanted to play as Donovan with the MMX wall jump.

>>175622354
but does it have waifus?

>>175592940
dayum, that's pretty rad.

Not really sure if I'll ever find a place to use it, but I'll damn well try!

Since /dadg/ is dead I'm gonna go rant here instead I guess. Holy shit PBD, I love the contents of the mod, especially the player side, with the new trinkets, the new character retools, but the creator blatantly admits the odds are more often skewed against the player's favors also I didn't have any strong opinions on corpses on Vanilla Darkest Dungeon but fuuuuuck corpses here. Beast Corpses gives diseases, Unholy Corpses resurrect, Eldritch gives fuck huge blight, Cove gives fuck huge bleed (Good luck curing them out of battle because you can only buy 1 ONE, Bandage and Antidote in the Provision Menu)

Just got into Veteran a few days ago and those fucking Swinetaur, they get two moves a round. You will definitely get Pig Speared at least twice (and that's if there's only one enemy)

>>175648869
Now I'm hyped.

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>>175649667
>playing RNG : The Game
Why not just a throw a dice and punch yourself everytime you roll something that isn't a six?

>>175649947
I've played maybe a dozen or two of these and I just hate the genre

>>175650834
That's fine. There's major issues in translating roguelikes to realtime, that devs haven't really figured out how to solve in a non-cancerous way.

>>175650948
I just don't like how indie devs treat "roguelite" as "no need to put effort in balancing the game"
Plus these games often end up having little to no actual content
And these games still sell like hot cakes because they substitute challenge with RNG

>>175651274
At this point, "roguelike" is just a fucking buzzword. It's like "Souls-like".
>they say "roguelike"
>you expect a lot of fun stuff based on weaponizing cocatrixes
>the only rogue-like thing is that death is permanent

>they say it's a Souls-like
>you expect awesome music, detailled environnement, a shitload of weapons, a difficult but fair game
>lol it's just hard

>>175627808
>There's Project Zomboid for a roguelike approach with zombies everywhere.
Play Cataclysm DDA instead, the actual zombie survival roguelike.

>>175653416
Cataclysm DDA doesn't have multiplayer and isn't very casual-friendly, but if I ever make another list of survival games, I'll add it to it.

>>175650637
You realize thete are people who finished Darkest Dungeon NG+ without losing a single hero (except the mandatory 2 in the final fight)? I bet you think Texas Holdem is gambling too.

The real problem with DD is grind, little content and overall repetetivness. RNG is perfectly fine.

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>>175654436
>RNG is perfectly fine

Would you play a card-deck-based moba, /indie/?

I know you think you're so clever typing out
>moba
but really nobody cares

>>175654513
RNG stands for random number generator and is not inherently wrong, most games make use of it. It's not the game's fault you are terrible at risk managment.

>>175654604
>moba
How about no?

And I didn't typed it. Get rused, kiddo.

>>175654604
No.

>implying we would type the text we're quoting
Are you accusing us of newfaggotry?

>>175654604
>moba
You really do deserve it though. It's the lower-scope "IM GONNA MAKE A MMO" that's still near as bad.

Even if your game is stellar AND you manage to scrap together a starting player base... you've still got an excellent chance to fail.

You're going to have an amazingly hard time pulling people from their e-sport of choice.

You perhaps have a chance if you make stellar bots, though.

>buy the game you made
>lose money
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>175655160
What were you expecting? Also surely the platform you use has a way for you to give out keys...

>>175654604
>moba
what do you mean by that? both overwatch and dota 2 are moba. use better definition you shitter

>>175654705
>being this new
>>175654932
>implying i implied anything
I just wanted feedback more akin to
>>175655110
Yeah, the genre's so established and entrenched which is a shame. I really think the extra dimension of externally building a deck Hearthstone-style whose powers you used in-game could add a hell of a lot of fun.

>>175655645
3rd person top down RTS-style control over a single hero against waves of low level grunts in lanes is the most likely. It could be either, however.

>>175655645
>FPS is now MOBA
Man I didn't know /v/ has gotten THIS retarded.

>>175655808
Good laugh m8, but you're the retarded one here.
>>175655743
I see friend, not my kind of game then. But there's market for that. How do you see the card implementation?

>>175655645
>overwatch is a moba
Since when?

Next thing you gonna say that chess is a moba

>>175654604
>ASSFAGGOTS

>>175656914
>Multiplayer online battle arena
Online chess is a moba

>>175656914
Didn't you get the memo? UT2K4 and Q3A are mobas too now.

>>175656590
So you know how moba games tend to drag on for like 30 minute play chunks?

I want a system that speeds up gameplay.

The basic idea: you build a deck with hearthstone-style mana cost. There are no "lands" or bullshit like that as in MTG, just a simple "this card costs X mana to play"

In-game, there will be a timer at the top of the HUD indicating when the next mana increase will hit.

During each "phase" (tied to a specific mana amount) there are three "draws" of a short time (30-40 seconds apiece? It needs testing, as do all the hard numbers in this game). In each "draw" you are granted a certain amount of mana, according to the "phase", and draw a handful of cards.

These cards are assigned to your number keys, and can be played for ingame effects like casting spells or summoning monsters. Buffs, debuffs, scrying, basically anything that can be balanced.

In each "phase", you are granted more mana and cards per "draw," slowly increasing the damage you can wreak as the game ticks onwards.

So why do we need all these genres when everything is a MOBA

>>175657113
Same, but every other genre that has also been watered down in definition (all of em).

As much as I like Rimworld, I'm already starting to find it limited.
>everything is on the same Z-axis
>no foundation system, your buildings are just planks put over the ground
>no moisture system that can fuck your shit up if you put a couple of batteries next to 4 passive coolers

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ANOTHER $30 /indie/ game

Fuck me, I should release at that price point for my next game.

>>175658039
You'll just have to accept that Rimworld literally has one dimension less than DF.

Batteries are a hazard, but the Zzzt event happens completely randomly rather than instigated by player mistakes. Well, at least you can mitigate its potential effect with good base design.

>>175658374
>the Zzzt event happens completely randomly rather than instigated by player mistakes
I dunno, so far it crashed twice. First time, it was when I left the batteries out in the rain, and second time, it was random, but it might have been the heat.

At least I learned why I should use stone walls rather than wood.
>that 0% flammability

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>>175658498
FYI, the zzzt discharges all power stored in batteries. In larger bases it is enough to destroy stone walls and/or maim pawns in large radius.

When moving towards endgame, it's a good idea to make a couple of separate switched battery rooms. Keep them charged but off the grid until needed.

And if you want to keep building your base past endgame, you can eventually get rid of batteries and move to reliable 24/7 power generation with spaceship reactors and geothermals.

>>175658713
For the time being, I haven't even unlocked medicine crafting. And since I had to restart a new game, I'm still trying to discover how to craft carpets.

Why put a sun lamp outside, by the way?

>>175658830
It's not a sun lamp, just a normal lamp. Mainly for decoration, but also for keeping often travelled paths lit during nights (spending time in darkness gives a minor morale penalty)

>>175657107
There's really no point in brainstorming this, all ideas are worthless without execution, and indie moba is an oxymoron.

>>175658886
Your base must be pretty large for that, because I don't have any lamp outside and I never saw that penalty.

>>175659319
http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Thoughts_list#In_darkness

That base was over half the map but it's not about that. You probably won't see penalties like that because your pawns mostly work outdoors during the day and sleep during the night.

Mine on the other hand spend most of their life under a mountain and sleep whenever.

>>175660112
Well, I had one that was a night owl, so I rescheduled her into working at night and sleeping during the day, she never got that either.

Also,
>Inebriated (drunk)
>This thought occurs after a humanoid consumes beer and their alcohol level reaches 40%. Pain level is reduced by 50%, while consciousness is reduced by 35%, accompanied by mild vomiting. At this level it triggers a tale that may show up in an art description; and the humanoid will soon start having a hangover.
You'd have to be a giant dick to make a sculture about how Scree McGreed got hammered and puked all over everything.
And then you put it in the dining room.

>>175657113
Because everything is ready an RPG

Fast bump

So I was wondering why, in Rimworld, my settlers aren't extremely desperate over their situation.
And then I took a look at their background.
>cult child
>unemployed adult
For them, it must be a new start. Starting fresh after a life that maybe wasn't fulfilling.

I like when the gameplay is explained like that.

>download latest rimworld alpha

>it stores user data in %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios\
>all old versions used %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld\

Fuck you Tynan why are you making me set up NTFS junction point for this

>>175664673
>\Ludeon Studios\RimWorld by Ludeon Studios\
ego boost much?

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>>175665252
What seems to be the problem?

>>175665252
Perhaps the old directory simply did not have enough redundant redundancy.

I haven't even started yet and Rimworld 16 is already kind of disappointing.
We have a fancy new globe worldgen, but still practically no worldgen settings, not even in debug mode. Why can't I even control the number of sites/civs on the planet? Every planet is practically the same as always before.

The embark screen has gotten slightly worse than in 15. Still no embark finder, yet worlds are bigger, generating them takes much longer and the 3D globe is slower to browse. Because manually checking hundreds of map tiles to find the location you want is '''''fun'''''. Maybe I'll try this later.

Post indies maybe?

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>>175670567
No.

>>175670567
DARKWOOD
A
R
K
W
O
O
D

Indies are slow today huh

>>175668367
>Rimworld 16
whats is even new by the way? quick rundown?

>>175670567
only if they are female indies...

>>175674816
big thing happened, yet another anti-piracy law passed and nyaa went down...

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This game is slowing down a bit. I'm not getting new abilities as frequently and the current plot thread is taking me through some very repetitive environments

>>175675457
New worldgen (globe instead of flat map) with other colonies on it.
You can have multiple colonies on one planet and send caravans to npc colonies.
Transport pods to launch supplies long-distance.
New victory condition, travel to a faraway ship on the same planet.

That's about it. Haven't yet tested how the new systems work.

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>>175676510
>New victory condition, travel to a faraway ship on the same planet.
Aren't you adorable, undestimating the problem like that.

>>175676720
That 30% genned planet looks silly.

Can you resume worldgen to "complete" the planet after starting a colony?

>>175677420
No.

>>175677541
Aw, that sucks. I wonder if the ship can spawn even further away on 100% planets?

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https://www.humblebundle.com/very-positive-bundle
>Underrail
>Stephen's Sausage Roll
>Curious Expedition
It's time like this when I doubt my paranoia is not real.

>>175679190
what's with humble bundle and actually having good games out recently?

Over the past like 3 months they've put out more good games than they have in the past handful of years. You'd have to go back to when it started back in 2010 to get good games this consistently.

>>175679396
Similar question : what with GoG having indie games recently?

>>175679396
Nah they always had meh and good periods.

>>175680140
I can't really think of anything specifically good for a while. The christmas yogscast ones are usually ok but outside of that it's usually mediocre shit throughout most of the year.

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>tfw humble bundles are now more expensive than games in the Steam store because your national currency went to shit

>>175679190
This bundle is amazing, I tells ya.

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>>175680583
Time to stop wasting time on videogames and starting your revolution.

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>>175670567
What's an indie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZv2OCbQOmI

>>175680583
what third world are you from

>>175680789
That game, THAT FUCKING GAME.

>>175680898
i recently picked furi up
the first and second bosses were ez
fuck the third and his walls

>>175679190
What are those like? I already have underrail.

>>175681113
Just wait until you meet the fourth one.
I stopped because I almost had him.

Spoiler : you can block the small bullets and send them back.
Also, that little sound just because the boss melee you? The delay between the sound and the actually attack is different with each boss. Wait, what, half a second for that old man.

>>175681240
shit
i totally forgot i could block

>>175681192
>Baseball
Trash.
>Tower
Pretty good in its own way, especially if you like classic sci-fi movies.
>Bleed Pixels
Fucking great.
>Hacknet
Fucking great.
>Crashlands
This is what happens when someone looks at Don't Starve and thinks "What if we put this in space and ramped the grind by a factor of 10?"
Take that as you will.
>Rail
Ya'llready know.
>Sausage
If you like puzzle games, it's a must.
>Curious Expedition
I have no idea.

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>>175681113
You're fighting yourself. Can't you see?

>>175681676
The people who make crashlands have made a handful of mobile games, and while the quality of those isn't exactly indicitive of a larger scale game I thought they were good enough to give them like $3 for the paid version of one of their games.

>>175681560
You're supposed to, to make him vulnerable. Otherwise he'll just keep kicking your ass.

>>175681676
>Hacknet
>great
Get Uplink instead.

>>175681676
Pixels is a bit hard for me. I'm a fucking casual at platformers.

>>175681879
They also have a really weird design philosophy.
>We think the game is worth $20
>So we're gonna make the PC version $15 and the Mobile version $5
To each their own, my opinion is the game is mediocre.

>>175679190
Was Curious Expedition in another bundle recently? I feel like I already own it

>>175682101
You're thinking renowned explorers from the Bundle that just died.

>>175682054
I haven't actually played that one but it looks decent enough.

That does sound like a pretty weird pricing scheme though, yea.

>>175679396
They pushed good games to their monthly and made the normal bundles bad to make it seem better.

>>175682101
No I thought the same thing too, I was thinking it was that "go and explore shit" game where you're like a group of british hunters.

A dumb question about Rimworld : do the wall materials matter when it comes to isolation?
Like, if make a fire in a wooden cabin, will it be as warm as making a fire in a cavern closed with steel doors?

>>175682420
Yes, walls/doors and roofs leak heat out. Materials matter.

But it's not that big of a difference - if the room is small enough, you won't even notice it.

>>175680898
The soundtack is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9QmKYttBt4

EXPEDITION
SOON

>>175683375
You don't really notice the soundtrack when you're getting your ass penetrated.

i have killed the old man on the rocks
lost to the angry scuba diver on his final phase though, fucking walls

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>>175683957
Anon, I...

>>175687587
EXPEDITION
SOON

>>175689451
Well, expeditions vikings is out.

>>175683957
EXPEDITION NOW
in a humble bundle

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>>175691107
Not him but I wish it wouldn't yet.

>"It's called 1.0.1.5 rather than 1.0.2 because it doesn't solve all the crashes we've been investigating, but the game is more stable now"
>"Once the last major gamebreaking quest bugs are out of the way, we can look at the second-tier ones that may still be important"

How did this happen?

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Aw man, I was just getting into Blues for Mittavinda when it suddenly turned into a meditation lesson and ended.

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But why did they name it Expedition out of all things?

It's basically Underrail: Waterworld

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Say, doesn't that fuel tank look awfully familiar?

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>>175693089
Like, this familiar?

Holy shit Rimworld.
It works.

I built a cooler linking my food stockpile to a small room filled with passive coolers, and that works.
Even when it's 50°c outside, it's nice and cold inside.

>>175692587
It's probably going to be a literal expedition. Think Honest Hearts fron NV.

>>175693089
>>175693279
Deepest lore.

>>175695108
I saw it.

>tfw still no indie games written in HolyC

>>175692587
Probably what >>175694969 said. We are going there because of some expedition. Has to be something at least somewhat important if it warrants putting the main quest on hold to play with pirates.

>>175679190
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Keeping track of Underrail's sails was already hard as is, but at least it hasn't been in a bundle since like 2013. Aw dammit.

>>175692102
>buying games on launch
Thanks for beta testing it plebs.
Just wait.

>Most roguelites are just a worse BoI, Nuclear Throne, FTL or Spelunky
Maybe I had too much hope for this kind of game.

>>175695854
I wouldn't mind more games like Spelunky honestly.

>>175695854
despite its flaws i think gungeon is ok

>>175695854
This looks promising at least.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/588650/Dead_Cells/
>Inb4 releases in Early Access

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>>175696145
I'm sorry.

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>trails in the sky 3rd releases tomorow and I am maybe just halfway through sc yet
I got 66 hours in the game already though. This series is so good.

>>175695257
Sure is deeplurr. They had planned the waterworld theme all this time... I wonder what other hints of future expansions we are missing?

>>175696084
I was looking at this one called caveblazers that looks like a more combat focused Spelunky, but the interesting thing about Spelunky is that you get a lot of tools to solve problems (and it's designed well), whilst that game just seems more about combat and upgrades to combat, which doesn't seem as interesting.

>>175696094
The ammo restrictions and making even generic enemies tougher for each floor just killed it for me. I didn't want to git gud when the game seemed to be so keen on making sure I had to play in the least fun manner to get anyway.

>>175696145
>souls-lite combat
ree e.t.c

>>175697105
yea like i said it's got its fair share of faults but I don't think they're game-ruining

>>175696947
>They had planned the waterworld theme all this time...
They had? I mean, sure, there was the talk about pirates, but that's all the hints I can think of.

So okay, the final boss is the Siphoner Man, right?

>>175696887
Shame it's focused on some others this time around.

>>175697105
Yeah, if it's just combat oriented I don't think I'll bother.

>>175697105
>ree e.t.c
I don't see the problem.
It's an easy way to quickly describe the combat in a way many can understand.

>>175697278
I don't think they just randomly put that Waterworld asset in Core City few years ago. And it's right next to where the Expedition will start. Too much to be a coincidence!

Maybe a new breed of siphoners. Siphoner Man is already busy watching arena fights

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>>175698048
It's good to see a different perspective of the world.

>>175698213
>And it's right next to where the Expedition will start.

We will finally have a reason to go down the ladder?! Hype!

But seriously though, it still feels pretty random to me. There wasn't even a single mention of Black Sea in the game. Not a hint, not an indirect mention, not even the pirates were mentioned to come from a different location. Black Sea just didn't exist before this expansion, in any way.

>>175699012
In a similar fashion there were no references to Free Drones before they got content. First the train heist and only select few uttering the name Free Drones, later on the whole questline and plenty of people talking about them.

It's really cool how Underrail world has been growing.

>>175699336
I mean, lore-wise, Free Drones expanded to the south only few years ago and we more or less got to witness that happening in real-time during the few years of alpha development. I fucking love Timelapse Vertigo.

>>175699012
>Black Sea just didn't exist before this expansion, in any way.
It's entirely possible NPCs will get new dialogue lines about Black Sea in the expansion.

I am having a hell of a time getting to Mega Satan as The Lost. Any tips? Gotta be some Isaac guys in here.

>>175699012
I don't know about what ladder you mean but someone somewhere said that the expedition starts from core city docks.

>>175699336
It's cool, I'm just saying this is not a good example of something we could have predicted by paying attention to clues dropped in the game, because the Black Sea and its spear-wielding tribals, Lovecraftian architecture, jet skis and whatever all came out of nowhere. Maybe it was planned for a long time, but they sure as hell haven't dropped any hints of it. It feels more like after the game was out they just had a few brainstorming sessions about fun potential new features and setting ideas, and then compiled a list of them and made an expansion around it.

Not that I mind the Underrail world growing even more.

Ezra is behind the ttwo headed mutant right. Are we finally going to clean house at SGS or at the very least make them spill the beans, even if only to your face?

>>175699728
Get fucking loaded, that's pretty much it. Hopefully you have holy mantle and a few other defensive items like the soul, then you pray.

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>>175699975
This ladder. Why does it exist. What is the point. There is literally nothing of interest down there. But looks like a good place to board a ship to Expansion-land.

>>175699728
Are you having trouble making it to him or unlocking his door?

>>175699656
I'm sure they will, wouldn't make sense if they didn't. Just saying that the location right now might as well not even exist, because absolutely nothing makes a reference to it.

>>175700625
Nah, the jetski shop won't fit there.
10 bucks says there's gonna be a new zone in the docks and since Port Zenith is to the west, it's gonna be in the east. Right next to the waterworld fuel tank!

>>175700747
I've been having shit luck with angel rooms. Gotten the big key twice. Died once to Isaac and once to Conquest (I know, I know).

>>175700801
> Just saying that the location right now might as well not even exist, because absolutely nothing makes a reference to it
Black Sea is less commonly known as a Schrödinger's Sea.

>>175700892
Isn't it unethical to propose a bet when you have unfair advantage?

>>175701158
Oh, getting to the door itself. Yeah it's pretty since you have to hope for angel deals. It'd be nice if you could use sacrifice rooms to force them to spawn but that's out of the question. I think your only options are to hope for some cards or dad's key.

>>175701158
Just give up on angel rooms m8. Be a stubborn asshole like I was and keep trying until you find Dad's Key or a get out of jail free card.

>>175701350
Lurking underrail.com forums is now unfair advantage?

>>175701616
Yes. Put on a blindfold. Hide in a cave. Then contact me through smoke signals if you want a bet.

>>175695854
?
Vagante
The Last Cargo
Darkwood

>>175696084
Does anyone else prefer the classic Spelunky over the HD version? I tried playing HD after playing the original for dozens of hours, but the automatic ledge grabbing killed it for me in spite of the new content and extra difficulty.

>>175701174
Lel. But you know, the last patch was an opportunity as good as any to stealthily add in some small references. But I don't think I've come across any. Although it's also possible that they just want to keep the base game as pure as possible, so it doesn't feel like you are reading a commercial unless you have the expansion.

>>175701817
Smoke signals in a cave sounds tempting, but I will contact you psionically when it is time.

>>175702807
Good. Good. You do that. Just make sure your cave has no internet. Wouldn't want to be branded a cheater, right?

>>175702672
>Although it's also possible that they just want to keep the base game as pure as possible, so it doesn't feel like you are reading a commercial unless you have the expansion.
That's most likely the case.

That said, I still have no idea what the new "recharge object" function of batteries could be for except recharging jet skis.

>>175705562
Does it need another function? It's not like "recharge weapon" does a wide variety of things either. On the other hand, this one IS in the base game. Would be a little weird if nothing ever used it, but then, they could still remove it with a patch if it turns out it's only used in the expansion.

>>175705562
Writing/content and game mechanics are different, right?

I don't think Styg's going to specifically disable any game mechanics in the base game, just limit availability of content. Owners of the base game should also benefit from the expansion's development.

Maybe, just maybe... jetskis won't be the only powered large objects in the future. Customizable dreadnoughts when? Or massive energy shield domes?

>>175706906
>I don't think Styg's going to specifically disable any game mechanics in the base game
Wait a sec. He already did that with veteran levels, didn't he? I'm not good at this.

>>175707972
Are you sure? I think that's only for the expansion. On oddity you wouldn't get enough experience to advance far in the veteran levels without additional content.

I'm sure the base game will benefit from the expansion. It already does, things like additional dialogue, new encounters and such wouldn't have happened if there wasn't new content on the way. But I don't think that much of the expansion mechanics will bleed over to th base game.

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>>175706906
> On the other hand, this one IS in the base game. Would be a little weird if nothing ever used it
That was my point.

>but then, they could still remove it with a patch if it turns out it's only used in the expansion.
Yeah, probably.

>>175706906
>Writing/content and game mechanics are different, right?
It would be kinda weird for new players who only bought thebase game to have a mechanic that has literally no use.

>Maybe, just maybe... jetskis won't be the only powered large objects in the future. Customizable dreadnoughts when? Or massive energy shield domes?
I doubt we will get dreadnoughts, maybe another section where we ge to use them in the expansion.

>>175708291
>On oddity you wouldn't get enough experience to advance far in the veteran levels without additional content.
Assuming veteran levels take 120 xp, you could get to 26 for sure, maybe 27.

Pic related has exactly 100 xp over lvl 25, is missing a few oddities and the drink sampling quest which is worth 3 xp.

>>175709186
>Assuming veteran levels take 120 xp
60*. Gotta go to sleep.

>>175708291
>I don't think that much of the expansion mechanics will bleed over to th base game.
And I think it's going to be the opposite, most of the expansion mechanics will bleed into the base game. Like the battery thing, new cursors, maybe the vehicle menu if they rework dreadnoughts... I hope they do, even if it's just that one short protectorate quest it would be cool.

And if you have the expansion it will simply add new content like the new weapons in shops, timefuckery trainer somewhere, access to expedition main quest/jetskis in core city docks and expansion areas with it. I dunno, it just seems like that would be the easiest way to do it. But who knows how styg-logic works.

Bumping is one hard job

>>175712371
YOU STOLE MY JOB

MY HONOR

MY DUTY

I usually wait halfway through page 10, it moves really slowly even compared to page 9

>>175709574
Seems like it'd break things for non expansion owners wouldn't it?

>>175701158
Try gunning for Devil Deals and the Duality item. That way you can go back to having free Deals once you grab your key pieces.

But if you want to be ultra cheap you could try breaking the run with a different character and using the Clicker/Lost Poster to change into The Lost.

>>175702646
classic spelunky is one of my all-time favorites. spent hours and hours playing it in high school as a library assistant cuz i couldnt run much on the ancient computers. same with knytt stories compared to knytt underground, too.

>>175714978
Never thought about the fucking Clicker! Good thinking.

well subnautica is a very good horror game so far

i'm still at the starting thing and the diseased manatee things creep me the fuck out, there's 2 of them just floating around me

Holy shit flying breaks Yooka Laylee hard. This is sonic boom tier. Not even Dragon Kazooie was this broken.

>>175718641
I might have dropped it somehow in panic but i think a fish stole my knife from me

Twisty Farm and Tower of Sausage are kicking my ass. But I will soldier on.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6APt2Knfg

Does Stardew Valley have actual depth when it comes to gameplay? Any dynamic in-game mechanisms (e.g. real economy)? Asking as someone who never played it.

>>175725641
in b4 ban

...Watching this!

>>175593741

Isn't Flinthook out? Don't frequent these threads, but I think it's a roguelite in lieu of Spelunky (probably not as great, but still).

Just my two cents, would love to hear more thoughts about it as I have yet to play.

>>175729879
Isn't it shit?

>>175732336

Thanks for the really constructive input!

>>175727538
I almost never get b& outside of the times that I post porn on /pol/ or spam /b/ and/or /trash/, neither of which I do anymore.

>>175726627
It's got about as much depth as an above-ground pool. Pretty simplistic and lacking in terms of certain things one can or cannot do. It's essentially Harvest Moon: PC Edition with some tacked-on Rune Factory elements that kind of feel out of place. Could be better, could be a lot worse, and generally speaking it's worth a playthrough or two, depending on your tolerance for shoddy writing and poor controls. Fishing minigame broke one of my computer mice, so there's that too. Thanks Obama.

>>175733127
Speaking of Rune Factory, is it good? I heard it has very good waifus, but other than that, I don't know anything about it.

>>175733201
it's harvest moon but better from what I know of it

>>175733304
It's better to make better than Harvest Moon?

>>175733201
Rune Factory and Rune Factory 2 are pretty good. Essentially Harvest Moon but in a high fantasy setting with crafting, monster taming and RPG elements. Rune Factory 2 also lets you play as your kid at some point.

Haven't played the others, given that most of my Nintendo DS games were either forcibly coerced out of my possession by a tranny otherkin that thought they were a Jedi, or traded in one week in 2013 so I wouldn't go hungry said week, and generally speaking I haven't gotten that much into Nintendo DS emulation at this time.

Protip: Best girl in any Rune Factory game is whichever one loves Turnips.

>>175733526
>Harvest Moon but in a high fantasy setting with crafting, monster taming and RPG elements
That sounds like the kind of game I want. There must be a catch to it.
I'll see if it's on the Nintendo's E-shop.

Also, sound like you have a peculiar story.

>>175733685
Might be on the e-Shop, though if your computer is capable of handing it you could try using a Nintendo DS emulator and just downloading the ROMs. Alternatively you could check somewhere like eBay. Can get a lot of used games on there real cheap. Used to buy computer parts there, was pretty sweet.

And I've got a lot of stories. More than I should, quite honestly.

>Tower of Sausage
This is too much Sausage to process all at once.

>>175734038
I have a 3DS, so I'd rather play consoles games on it.
Except the Metroid games, I'll have to emulate these, since they're only available on "New 3DS", and Fusion is missing anything.

And as much as I'd like to ask for these stories, it's too early for me to rage.

>>175734170
It's definite intimidating, but seemingly easier puzzles have wrecked my shit much harder.

>>175735052
I suppose I'll figure it out on the morrow then.

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How do you end the noble war in Battle Brothers? I did the thing with the war camp. Got food for the war camp, destroyed an enemy caravan, and then helped the war camp win a fight. I figured the ambition to help a noble house win a war would be finished, but it's been a few days in-game and nothings happened.

>try underrail
>it's one of these "you can only use a lockpick once, after it disappears out of existence" game

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>>175735694
By killing everyone, duh.

>>175736650
Geez, why are you surprised, it's a common mechanics

>>175740013
Just because it's common doesn't mean I have to like it.
There are many people who love to take a dick in their asses, that doesn't mean I like it too.

>>175736650
It's a MAGICAL world.

>>175680789
Did you hold her hand /indie/?

>>175726627
Nope. Maybe when farm hand is out

>>175732336
It's a divisive game

>>175734213
Get a supercard dstwo

Is Dustforce worth bothering with in 2017?

It doesn't run well on my PC and first tutorials make an impression of a rather sterile platformer

>>175746632
Don't force yourself to play and like it. It's another twitch reflex grinding plattformer like meatboy but with a more chill soundtrack.

>>175733526
Wouldn't mind hearing that tranny psycho story.

>>175736650
If you want an immersive explanation,it's entirely possible reusable lockpicks like those in our world were simply never developed in Underrail world, they only ever came up with a design that deforms after single use.

Or locks is Underrail are so convoluted that they actually require a pick that deforms.

Gameplay wise it's supposed to make lockpicks a resource. If they were reusable, there would be no point in preserving scarce Mk III picks for example.

That said, the ultimate lockpick is reusable, but you get it late in the game abd as a reward to one of the harddest questlines in the game.

>>175736650
Don't lock pick guns often break?

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>>175740768
It can't be that common to like dicks inside your output orifices. Besides, JC approves of consumable lockpicks.

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>>175753171
JC's true love was omnitools though.

I don't get why sniper rifles in Underrail have 14 optimal range and 20 max range.

If the enemy is standing right next to you and can be attacked in melee, according to the game mechanics he's at 1 range from you.

So for example if the enemy is 10 tiles away (or in other words if you need to spend 100 movement points to reach him since every tile requires 10 MPs) he's actually at 11 range.

This is easily tested with a pistol- the max range is 10, but you cannot shoot unless the enemy is 9 tiles/90 MPs away.

But back to the original point- maximum range at which you can see enemies is exactly 13, I checked. Beyond that point the fog of war makes it impossible to target enemies, they are simply not visible.

There is a single exception- while fog of war makes enemies invisible, it has no effect on objects. So you still can set off an explosive barrel at 20 range, but since you cannot see if enemies are next to it or not it's of little use (unless the enemies don't move around and stand right next to the barrel, but this is almost never the case).

In other words having more than 13 max range is basically pointless, all it does is make you able to set off explosive barrels without knowing if anything is near them or not. Having more than 13 optimal range is absolutely useless.

I find it really funny how Black Arrow has 15 optimal range instead of 14. Yeah, that's totally gonna make a difference.

Also, funny thing is, this doesn't apply to NPCs, or a least not always- I recall multiple cases where NPCs with assault rifles were able to hit me from beyond the fog of war. Max range of standard ARs is 14, so they were standing right beyond the fog.

>>175754017
Go away Alex, we don't talk about you.

DXIW was still better DX game than DXHR

>>175755851
That doesn't necessarily translate to a more enjoyable game.

>>175755851
No.

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>>175755851
Both were shit, just in different ways. HR put up a more convincing illusion that it was good, but at least IW was honest in its shittiness and clunkiness.

That, and the omnitool bug is 11/10 Bug of the Year, and almost makes IW worth playing. Such a brilliant fuckup.

>>175756251
True. The gameplay was shit.

>>175756334
How does it work?

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>>175757125
On every level in the game there is one omnitool that is bugged. It looks and behaves like any regular omnitool, with the exception that it doesn't stack with other omnitools.

If you try to pick it up while your inventory is full, every time you click on it a new bugged omnitool will spawn somewhere else on the matter. The location is always the same, but finding it can be tricky. It could be anywhere, on the ground, or way high up in the sky.

Once you find the spawn place, you can just keep infinitely multiplying them, until the game can't handle it anymore and crashes. Or just take some with you and move on, since bugged omnitools stack with their own kind.

It's a fun game to track down the source omnitool and the spawns on every level. More fun than the game itself.