Amateur Game Developers General

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>Just let it die edition

>>175554176
>I went from shitposting on /vg/ to making 2 VNs and getting over 50k in kickstarters. Research writing and writing tropes and styles of writing if you really wanna get better at it.

Wait there's a market for western VNs? Did you 1MA it or were you a team? Is there a place where people who want to make VNs gather?(Artists,Writers,Programmers,etc.)

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4chanX Protip:

Press Alt+Up Alt+Down to cycle through all the legitimate (You)s in the thread.

Faster and not false-positive prone like ctrl+f searching for (You).

>>175554640
It was a 2 man job and we hired a few freelancers to do art for the game.

>Is there a place where people who want to make VNs gather?(Artists,Writers,Programmers,etc.)

Not that I know of. This is the only place that would come to mind.

Hi I like your OP pic :)
I'm an artist, any of you happen to look 4 an artist?
girl btw lol (=

>>175554936
>girl
haha nevermind, thanks

>>175554917
No posts are currently quoting you, loser.

lol, thanks for the tip
I guess you won't be a loser now

>>175555005
Cheers. Have a そうですね

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Don't die aggy. The afterlife is too good for you.

>use unity forever
>try monogame for 2d
>have to make a ui without easymode dragondrop editor
>go back to unity

Having a child class subscribe to an even on its parent class feels so weird

>>175555076
but it only works the first time?

>>175555231
If you only have one (You) in your inventory, it won't look like it's doing anything.

>>175554995
I can pretend to be a boy for you if you need an artist that badly

>>175555217
why?
sounds like something that you should actually do often

>>175554640
>>175554924

What did you use to make it?

>>175555149
>that circle effect
Neat.

>>175555149
Demo day?

Do you think topdown or sidescroller games let you be more creative with bosses, enemy types and character attacks/abilities in general?

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Reminder that Stirling's Approximation gives ln(n!) as nln - n
Reminder to review your combinatorics

>>175555149
>turn away from agdg and choose life

>>175555561
as opposed to what games?

>>175555349
RenPy

what's a good way of managing states and transitory states in finite state machine? make everything a separate state or code transition specifics inside the state?
all this shit just to get a smooth animation when you switch direction instead of just flipping the damn sprite

>>175554936
>>175555281
Can you pretend to be a boy pretending to be a girl?

Turing machines were a mistake
Lambda calculus was robbed

>Unity now has a tutorial project for multiplayer games
EXCITE
Now if only I could get my fucking finals done so I have time work work on a project.

What drives you to make games? Be specific.
If you think of "money", even if you decide to say something else, just seriously consider a job at mcdonalds, it will have a better ROI.

For me, it's Morrowind and Baldur's Gate. The feelings I've had while playing those games, how immersed (I know, overused word) I was in that world, how my decisions really made impacts, how imperfect other living things were.

>>175556873
it's a way to cope with stress and depression

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>game starts
>already at the final battle with the big bad
>big bad says "heh... it's over" and uses their ultimate attack on the hero
>just before the final blow is struck...
>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>hero narrates "Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering I ended up in this situation"

rate the start of my game

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Russian 2chan has their own gamedev board. Why isn't 4chan doing the same?
I'm browsing the board right now, although translated since I don't speak russianish, but there seems to be a lot of action there.

I'm jealous

>>175556873
Couple reasons, one is so my life won't have been a waste. ~10 years programming experience, cushy life in America, the very least I can do is MAKE something while Indian peasants are carrying around brickloads on their backs but still can't afford to poo in loo

Second, a game like this needs to exist. Everyone else is doing a bad job of it.

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>>175557114
They have their own animeposters, too

They wanted us to judge their demoday or something a few months (years?) ago but no one did, it was really, really sad

>>175557031
Would watch a letsplay of

>>175557031
it was all fine until hero narrates. that's the most shitty way to do 4th wall breaking, you can have him talk to himself or something not cheesy

>>175556873
I love the genre i am working in, and games in general are cool.
I also love art, and music.

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-------- AGDG WEEKLY RECAP --------
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>>175557114
>>175557262
This makes me really sad that I've forgotten all my russian from my time in university
especially with all the recent US russophobia god I'd love to get in on that

Paзpaбoткa мyзыки
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7NMsywVQhY

Holy shit Ctesiphon better have another demo this demoday I swear to g*d

>>175557676
Don't recognise any of these games.

What happened to Gods Gift?

What are some Egyptian animals that would make cute characters?

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Space Dementia
Dev: rez
Tools: SFML/C++
Web: rezydev.tumblr.com
Progress:
+ Added sprite batching
+ Added shotgun upgrade and buffed pistol
+ Buffed boomerang
+ Improved many particle and projectile effects
+ Added ammo to rocket launcher
+ More enemy improvements
+ Fixed screen shake

>>175557934
Awesome art, shit lemmings game.
Sad fate.

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My PC is alive! Press F to celebrate
I'm still going to have to get a new one though because I had to remove my GPU. And no GPU = no modeling and no gamedev and most importantly, no anime ;_;

you have 20 seconds to explain why you aren't making your 2d game in unity

>>175558186
Worried I won't be able to enjoy your art because I'm bad at action games

>>175558331
what was it?

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Ghost Knight Victis
Dev: Anomalous Underdog
Tools: Unity, Blender, Substance Painter, Photoshop CC
Web: hypertensiongamedev.tumblr.com
Progress:
+ Started improving the combat AI for the Wooden Mannequin.
+ Changed the look of the Phase Dash particle effects.
+ Added constantly emitting particle effects on Desparo's feet.
- Been working on fixing bugs on my Unity Asset Store plugin, which ate up time.

>>175558451
The GPU crapped out most likely since it started working after I removed it.

>>175557785
How is the gamedev scene there? I'm starting uni there at Innopolis in August

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What's your favorite board game /agdg/?

>>175558432
Maybe I should allow to cheese the game with collectibles, but it still takes away from the experience, because the game shines at fast, smooth platforming.
But seriously, the art as it is now is shit to be remade completely.

>>175558149
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eryx_jaculus

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>>175558609

>>175558609
I like making up my own rules

>>175558331
Funny mine died recently but only the GPU (and HDDs) remained.

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>you fell for the unity meme

>>175557031
Lufia is better

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>>175547261
Thank you.This has been the source of the entire problem. I really wish I knew how to run my program with a different form at the startup so this wouldn't have happened

>>175557031
deadpool/10

>>175560145
>WinForm
Are you making your program depend on the Windows API? You shouldn't.

>>175558406
Its incovenient

>>175557031
Megamind - The Vidoegame
God what a bad movie

>>175560445
Why is it bad?

>>175560352
It's a school project in the intro to programming course, can't change that aspect.

>>175558609
Settlers of Catan

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First time doing this.

>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Bullet Hell Lane Shooter
Dev: ADMAN
Tools: Unity
Web: adamluttonblog.co.uk
Progress:
+ Fixed movement problems with the player
+ Objects on lanes spawning in patterns
- Need to fix random frame drops
- Need to create the systems that defines what bullet pattern to use and when

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Started work on a fire level hoping to add teleportation panels on it, 1-2 new traps and a new fire based enemy.

Devil or little cubic dragons? Can't decide.

>>175560394
what are you using, then?

>>175560685
Looks really washed out

the only thing worse than being a nodev is making a game with unity

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>>175554565
Not everyone here is depressed, Anon.

>>175560685
Palette's not got enough red to be hell. Dragons all the way, mang.

>>175560685
You should try and find a way to not have that black seeing-character-through-a-wall shit show up under regular flat-floor-no-wall conditions.

Either that or it's a shadow and it's way too dark?

>>175560685
Just dropping by to say I think the colors seem to match the rest of the game and as such the "washed out" complaint doesn't matter, also it looks fine.

>>175560685
Don't lava levels usually have lighting coming from underneath? I reckon dragon cubes, too.
Great progress, man. This came up so quick.

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>>175561225

>>175561886
Nice.

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https://youtu.be/hMWlYaYbldQ?t=2m28s
Is there any simple way to implement sprites whose colour varies based on the background tile? Like pic/link related.

I mean, beyond the obvious brute force allocation of tile colours and flipping any sub-sprites that enter it's coordinates.

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Ironmash!
Dev: Norby
Tools: Unity, Paint.net, Inkscape
Web:
Progress:
+Tutorial complete (but too much words and too little action)
+Added a couple more skills
+Want to have a demo ready for the demo day
-having a shitty internet connection, don't know if the connection problems i stumble upon are my fault or unity servers'

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>>175561886
Haha, saved.

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sea

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Waves of Vapor
Dev: Melonodev
Tools: GM:S
Web: melonodev.tumblr.com
Progress:
+ Made sprites for the first boss
+ Made barebones menu
+ Made list of things I should do
- Can't do those things
- Gamemaker doesn't play the game anymore for some reason
- Damnit man I wanna submit shit for demoday but that ain't happening like this.

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>>175562927
i remember playing your demo a few months back and i was wondering if you were ever in the thread so i can tell you that half the time i had no fucking clue what was going on. the screen is too cluttered. i had no idea where my character was at different points in time. hope you fixed the clutter and the character is easier to tell apart from the background and enemies.

good stuff anon keep it up

>>175560698
My own

>>175562927
I don't know what kind of game this is, but it looks so comfy. Love the falling meteors in the background.
Good work anon

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>>175558406
b-but I already am

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>>175563015
not sure which demo you tried, there were improvements between them and i'm still tweaking some things to make it better
you might also wanna give the easy mode a shot if you're gonna ever play again as it reduces the speed and quantity of everything by a lot
thanks for playing and feedback, i appreciate it
>>175563558
thanks, it's a run 'n gun

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>>175557031
>>just before the final blow is struck...
I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME

Would a camera/screen shake script also work for shaking enemies on hit?
I can't find any tutorials for this, only for screen shakes.

>>175564638
Literally just look at the code and find out.

>>175564638
just reapply the knowledge of how to make screen shake to shaking enemies with some corrections if needed

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How do I into content creation for a RPG? I know there are some item databases around but I'd love to make one from scratch, any ideas on how to start?

>>175564638
Same principle, you're shaking an object's position in general. So any object with a position, be it a camera or enemy, can be shook

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>no games have a grab command

>>175564821
>open paint
>draw sord
>put it in game together with stats
There's your content creation.

>>175564945
What did he mean by this?

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>>175564945
Z-Knuckle in Megaman Zero 4, you peasant

>tfw i like to learn how to make a game instead of making one
i need to stop trying

>>175565130
there should be an adventure game that has a grab button as an option to hurt enemies

you'd grab em and fling em

>>175565168
fuck, i only played zero 3

the fairies were cool

>>175565232
Then make one

>>175565287
i am

dont steal my idea

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>>175565232
It felt so satisfying. I always regard GBA games as the pinnacle of game feel

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>>175565176
>tfw making a game before learning

>>175565232
I have something similar, but mainly for utility instead of damaging. You can damage other enemies with enemies thrown at them though. I need to rework this shit.

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Friendly reminder that Monster Jam is officially ON.

Always wanted to make a game where you patrol a lush forest as a Spriggan, protecting it against invaders and giving unwary travelers the succ?

NOW IS YOUR CHANCE

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-monster-jam

>>175565232
Lugaru

>>175565232
https://learnaboutgame.blogspot.com/2007/11/3-hours-of-poppenkast.html

Arms by cactus was a short prototype like that. It was a lot of fun. Wish it was a full game desu.

Mario can grab his enemies?

>>175565481
What's the point of a monster jam? What makes it not just another art based jam?

>>175565834
Art based jams are superior

>>175565481
friendly reminder to put in a bit more effort into promoting your jam than just pasting a pasta

>>175565834
Name a jam that was not 'art based'

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>>175560685
I can already tell you're gonna steal this fucking design arent you?

>>175566003
Noart jam

>>175566059
When was that?

>>175566003
gameplay jam

>>175566152
It lost on the polls because no one wants a non art based jam

>>175566196
it was probably just a miscommunication where people thought it was a meme entry because are intrinsically art. just like how 40 something people voted loli because they thought it meant non-lewd little girls
i get what you mean though, change it to No Graphics Jam

>>175566394
A no graphics jam is still art based
We should have a clone jam

>>175566196
In other words, we never had a Jam that wasn't art based.
What does art based even mean anyway? Are you making your main game with no art too?

>>175566394
>just like how 40 something people voted loli because they thought it meant non-lewd little girls
>implying it wasn't one dude who spammed the poll in the last possible second for keks

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>that feel when not an artfag

Why would I make a game? Everything will look like shit. Even if I polish the gameplay to perfection people will take one look and not want to play

>>175566535
Admin was watching the whole time, he can tell you how the votes came like a monsoon.

>>175566493
Art based means centered on creativiy and expression. A non art based jam would be a craft based jam, in other words there's no room for creativity or expression, only for execution. Whence a clone jam >>175566475
could classify as a non art based jam. Even the graphics of the clone should aim to be a 1:1 copy.

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>>175566579

>>175566579
bro don't say I can't make game, google undertalle bro it's celebrate even art is not good albeit made millions

>>175566650
what would be even the point then?

>>175566754
this

>>175566835
Either epen measuring or practice, maybe.

>>175566754
he's not a musician who was already popular and had a following because of the previous projects he participated in, thanks to which he scored a successful kickstarter
he's just a dumb wojakposter

>>175566835
Practice of technical skills that is, not creative ones.

>>175566579
Just use free sprites mang. Make a few little games with resource packs, hone your skills, you may find an artist who digs your stuff (worked for me).

That, or make ascii-based roguelikes and text adventures (also works for me).

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>>175566027
Gonna have to come up with my own cubic dragon sorry sourcedev but it was too hard to pull off in cubes.

>>175567206
>not ripping off dragons from cubivore
do your homework bokube

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Kill me
Kill me now

>>175567360
>dragons
Do you even have a screenshot example I just googled cubivore and dragons and got nothing man that game is rare.

Ok guys, here's my idea for this month's game:

Auto generated maze, find the exit - all basic stuff - but here it comes: Instead of being chased by a monster, you're chased by something far more disgusting: anime.

If this amazing concept doesn't net me hundreds of people playing my game, I dunno.

>>175566579
Many indie games have really bad art, or barely any art at all, and people still play them.
You can for example just use photos as backgrounds or just code a cool looking effect.

>>175566754
The embodiment of the Adage Just Like Make Game.
Salute brother.

>>175567635
nice elephant anon
keep drawing and learning anon you can do it

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>>175567635
>idle
>idle as in the tiger is a lazy idle fat sack of shit
>not idle as in idle-animation as one would expect in a video game development thread

>>175567635
Looks kinda smug.

>>175567923
replace anime with you and we have a deal

It seems to me that what indie games are lacking the most is good 3d art, especially characters and animations.

Agree/disagree?

>>175567635
Make it a "bad taxidermy" game and you're set.

>>175568275
Well if the game is 2D then yeah it will probably lack 3D art

>1MA game
>looks like shit and/or has a tiny scope

>2MA game
>looks amazing and has plenty of content

explain

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>>175568275
are you implying indie games have abundance of good 2D art, especially characters and animations?

>>175568275
3d is not art

>>175568270
woah rude

I'll make the protagonist one of those scary little girls from Fear, Resident Evil, etc. and the main antagonist a lolicon (its natural enemy).

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A horror game in which you're haunted by your real life decisions and embarassing things you've done.

>>175568540
>Grant this game access to your Facebook account?
>Y/N

>>175568540
Watch the Black Mirror episode "Playtest".

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>>175568275
and good gameplay, stories, music, bugtesting.

The golden age was when 2d was the norm and being made by legit devs.

>bug free, no day 1 patches that don't fix anything
>ran perfectly
>no jewing / microtransactions
>great game design and music

>interested in mobiledev but not sold on it yet
>about to buy windows laptop for unrelated reason
should i get a macbook instead so i can compile xcode if i ever want to? i don't want to have to buy another laptop later. is ios still the majority of mobile game revenue?

>>175568460
double the manpower plus some kind of accountability

>>175568460
Task distribution.

Switching gears from programming to art, and then back again to programming causes a certain mental fatigue. It's easier to focus on just one. Someone working on both art and programming will achieve less progress in 2-3 months than a programmer and artist together in a single month. (Assuming they actually communicate or work in the same building. The problem with teams online is long response time and possibility of the other party bailing.)

Of course 1MAing isn't impossible, but it's definitely harder.

>>175567923
>You walk through the empty corridor, trying to find the door in order to get out of this house.
>The wind blows through the hallways
>A faint whisper can be heard
>Closely you listen to the high-pitched voice that's coming closer and closer,
>you can't quite make out what it's saying.
>You carry on, walking along
>the voice goes to an inaudible whisper to nothing but the wind.
>You see the door ahead.
>Before you reach it a loud voice booms through your headphones
>NOTICE ME SENPAI!


Actually not a bad idea for a meme-game to get some screaming-youtubers funbucks.

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>>175568460
it's almost as if humans spent last 15,000 years perfecting professional specializations and workload distribution, to eliminate extremely inefficient process of developing competence in multiple fields, that has led to biggest production/population explosion in history and created modern human society as we know it, or some shit...

>>175554424
>removes everything except how to webm section
kek, I told you guys this webm faggot was a shitposter.

>>175568968
>>175568764
>>175568745
Then why is 90% of /agdg/ 1MA?

>>175569090
because we have no friends who could help us and we don't want to entrust out baby with fucking strangers

>>175569090
>The problem with teams online is long response time and possibility of the other party bailing.

Let's collab right fucking now faggot, you and me.

Are you a 1MA?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12872035

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>>175569090
because you say you're interested in writing some music and doing sound effects for people and nobody's interested.

>tfw I'm a jackass of all trades and master of none so I would never fit in a team

>>175568816
Meme games are all I'm capable of right now.

>>175569090
No partner in love life, no partner in dev life

>>175569237
What kind of music do you make?

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: [Placeholder Title]
Dev: Ogier
Tools: GM:S, Aseprite
Web: https://ogierdev.tumblr.com
Progress:
+Finished ice attack re-implementation
+Mostly done with options menu
-Demo will have way less things to do compared to previous versions

>>175569246
Your work is cut out for you then!
Meaning, there are plenty of anime models up for sale on the asset store.
Meem it up boi

>>175569090
It's just a hobby for me. I'm not expecting to ever actually finish my project, let alone release it as a polished product.

I'm too much of a controlling asshole to ever collab with anyone.
I only accept slaves that are ok with being my slaves.

>>175569239
most jacks usually have a topic they like more than others.

>>175569383
I bow to no man.
now, if you were a grill...

>>175569513
literally me

What are you making your game in, AGDG?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12872086

>>175568639
Is that show any good? I'm thinking to watch a TV series to divert myself

>>175569669
>unity 50%
fuck off

>>175569813
Yeah, it's pretty great.

>>175569813
I find it a bit too edgy

>>175569158
I am right now but I have no intention of being a 1ma by the end of my project. Once I have something worth showing (basically the alpha version) I want to entice a sound designer and another artist to help finish the game.

Split profit 33% for everyone.

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>>175569669
>3 godot votes
>not a single game in sight

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>>175569348
anything, not exaggerating. I can do about anything music wise to varying degrees of success.

I'd like to work on something orchestral just because I don't do it enough due to the massive effort and I'm getting rusty.

Aside from that I'd like to do something 16 bit-ish, like mega drive music, just because i like doing it. (funky mystery music was a 16 bit one)

https://clyp.it/user/1e5ud4zl

https://streamable.com/g96rg

Really if I'm being honest I just want to have my name on a finished game so I have at least some credits, /agdg/ probably not the best place to go hunting for close to finished games though I know and pretty selfish but hey there's the truth, let me know what your game is like, upload some footage so I know what's the deal and I'll have a go at scoring it, see if you like it and we can go from there.

>>175570235
We all want our fucking name on a finished fucking game, my friend. Nothing excessively selfish about that.

>>175570235
>let me know what your game is like
Sry, but I am a racist and only would collab with people from my own country. You are probably american huh?

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: MoGiSho (Moth Girl Shooter)
Dev: WRIT
Tools: GM:S
Web: http://thirdkeyofsun.tumblr.com/, https://twitter.com/thirdkeyofsun
Progress:
+ Changed life counter from blue flames to hearts thanks to the feedback from anons
+ Enemy sprite tweaks for DD14
+ Background recolored in 'normal' mode of intro stage to fit the stage theme better thanks to feedback from anons
+ Finalized the pacing in 'easy' mode of intro stage
- Still lots to do before DD14

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Put together a shitty first version of the trailer I've been working on.
Here are some leftovers from fuckin around with Fusion 8

>>175570451
this is getting fucking absurd

>>175570474
It's jarring how the text suddenly slows down at the beginning.

>>175570385
I feel like I'm asking more from the universe than I'm giving back but maybe programmers feel the same way about getting "free" music and sound design for seemingly nothing in return.

Is this the basic autism that leaves agdg full of 1ma?

who knows.

>>175570569
Not really.

>>175570235
damn you're good
I'll get back to you when I have something substantial to show

>>175570569
its sinking into the sweet pool of gamedev

>>175570569
it wouldn't look jarring if paired with a sound effect that emphasized it.

like schiing boom

this is what a sound designer can add to your project wink wink

>>175569090
Working with someone else limits what you can do.

>>175569158
I'm mostly 1MA. I'm mediocre at most stuff but the one thing I'm absolutely shit at is music and sound effects. So I usually find free music to use, and free sound effects. Sometimes I just use BFXR for sound effects.

When I make my dream game I'll definitely be hiring a music bro.

>offer my services to other dev in need
>I'm filled with anxiety all the time and can't work properly
>finish my work fast before I panic and bail out
yeah I can't collab

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>>175570235
How much do you charge for a minute of orchestral music?

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>>175565481
friendly reminder that mecha monsters are superior

How feasible is it to make a living doing game dev if I only need 25k/year to live?

>he doesn't use an engine
>>>/g/

So making a tileset for a grid based tilemap is pretty straightforward but how does one go about doing the same for a hex grid?

>>175569158
I have a good friend who's really interested in working on games with me, but he doesn't have any skills I don't do better and lacks all of the skills I also lack.

I have this dream of being a super 1MA like tobyfox or that Stardew Valley guy, just doing all my own shit so my game is made according to my vision, but I suck at art and have not the first idea about music. Been trying to work on my art, but it's not really something I'm naturally drawn to so it's hard.

>>175571385
Which engine do you recommmend?

>>175571367
28 feasibility units

>>175571438
Those two guys suck at art too though.

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Progress:
>finally added musics (CC0) to test out music transitions etc
>added elevators
>reworked some tiles
>new HUD
>finalized mecha design

>being an engine baby
Dont forget to sub to Unity Gold™.

>tfw my best ideas require state-of-the-art engine capabilities and I'm too much of a brainlet to make them work

>>175571551
Still better than me haha.

>>175571590
>not being an engine baby
how's that game going, friend?

>>175571585
are all your areas so claustrophobic

>>175571367
I did the maths on that before and I figured you'd need to sell about 9k copies of your game a year á 10 bucks to make about that much (provisions, license costs and taxes already included).

Doesn't seem much at first but you gotta keep in mind that there are even big releases floating around 25k sales if they don't catch on with the right audience.
And those are studio productions.
Or were, cause those studios surely had to shut down.

Reminder that you can still grind out decent art even if you aren't experienced, having good taste means you can tweak shit until it works even if you don't know the underlying logic behind it.

Does anyone know how serialization works in Unity? ScriptableObject in particular. I'm trying to save one using the AssetDatabase but one attribute is always null after restarting the editor.

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>>175571631
I don't think that's literally possible.

>>175571830
>unity
>serialization
ahahahahahahah

>>175571884
He's a good composer at least.

>>175571749
Wait what? That would be $90k/year in sales, which would be something like $60k in income after steam takes their cut.

>>175571794
Maybe that'll work for static sprites, good luck finishing anything anytime soon if you use that method when animating something.

>>175564523
AND FLUNG ANON INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE HE STILL HAS NO GAME

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was there EVER a finished, published /agdg/ game from an engie?

what the fuck are you guys even doing?

Day #101
I can model now
Just kidding

>>175572060
google "the witness"

>>175571585
Is this a new sequel to blaster master?

>>175571585
Mate that looks slick as. I've been enjoying Blaster Master lately and this looks a bit similar but much more smooth.

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Why do so many people use engines for their shitty 2d platformers?

>>175571969
You're just making excuses. Get your shit together and like just make the game. You'll figure out things eventually.

>>175572204
Because why reinvent the wheel? There's literally no benefit anymore to writing your own engine for a simple 2d game.

>>175572204
Why wouldn't they?

>>175571590
>I am willing to waste hundreds of hours of my finite lifespan to reinventing a worse version of the wheel for meaningless /g/entooman cred

>>175572204
>dude just use the asset store lmao

>>175569669
>Not having C++ and OpenGL as an option

>>175572351
/agdg/ is for gamedevs only

>>175572125
was jon blow here at some point?

>>175572407
>only
That's where you fucked up

>>175572313
>i dont want my own framework to expand and infinitely improve upon for years to come.

Enjoy being a slave to someone else's code.
>inb4 "why arent you creating your own universe then" slippery slope

>>175572407
>implying you need a premade game engine to make a game

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>>175571225
I don't fucking know, I can write music but everything else surrounding it from the business side, marketing, professionalism, sleep schedule, etc. is a mystery.

I understand at the agdg level games are more about "passion" (or gay furry porn patreon jealousy apparently) so I'd rather work for cuts on the final """profit""" if anything,

If I work out the time implemented for a minute of orchestral music vs minimum wage in my country it ends out probably not sounding appealing to agdg anyway lel.

>>175560685
looks like margerita

>>175572351
Is anyone even developing without hardware acceleration? I just kind of assumed that everyone is using opengl, directx, or vulkan.

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>>175571743
Areas are just for test. I'll make the final areas to the game once I have all mechanics down.

>>175572131
Maybe?

>>175572132
Thanks!

I mean how I am supposed to understand godot node hierarchy other than trial and error?
for example it's obvious a sprite is going to be a child of a kineticbody but how do I know if I should put a raycast on the body or sprite? how was I supposed to know an area2d needs a collisionpolygon?

>>175571585
Looking really good.
Will this be in Demo Day 14? I'm looking forward to playing it.

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>>175572001
There's that thing called taxes anon. It's a really nasty concept were the state comes in and takes quite a bit of your cash. Sometimes according to a range of income, sometimes as a flat percentage.
In some places up to 50%.

Hey and in France they had the great idea to make a 75% tax for the "super rich" (whatever that means). It was so successful they had to stop it after two years.

Just as a heads-up, why you shouldn't ever vote for commies or self-proclaimed socialists.

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Fixed my frame-rate drops and tweaked my debug code. Also added a new pattern.

Probably gonna focus on the system that generates different waves of patterns/enemies/etc. this week. I have a feeling it might be too easy of a game, any suggestions for making it harder besides making the objects coming down the lane faster?

>>175571416
The same way but with 50% more sides

>>175572732
solid as fuck! drop your twitter or blog so I can follow its progress pls

>>175572980
the music is loud

the kids are so young

all over the world

they wanna have fun

>>175572732
That's some good art, m8.

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>>175572557
>I understand at the agdg level games are more about "passion" (or gay furry porn patreon jealousy apparently) so I'd rather work for cuts on the final """profit""" if anything,

That's not how business works anon.

>If I work out the time implemented for a minute of orchestral music vs minimum wage in my country it ends out probably not sounding appealing to agdg anyway lel.

Throw out a number. Go ahead.

>>175570235
>>175572557

>when some nigga posts his mixtape in AGDG but it's actually lit

Can't say anything but I like it, keep it up.

>>175572732
What are you making this in?

>>175572931
By reading the manual.
http://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/learning/features/physics/physics_introduction.html

>>175573243

Because if I'm making 2d I can draw my placeholders in 20 seconds as opposed to actually needing a total rig and model for 3d.

Plus 2d better fits the project I'm going for.

>>175573408
and when it isn't in the docs?

>>175572968
I know how taxes work. I'm talking about $25k in income before taxes. That's a very low tax bracket in the US, and after deductions you end up paying something like 5% in federal income taxes.

>>175573268
in general, about a minute of fully slick, finished orchestral music is gonna take me 3-5 hours, sometimes you can do it in 1, sometimes it takes way more etc.

So at the absolute very minimum I'd need to charge at least $60-80 a minute.

>>175572980
Faster isn't necessary, just more objects so there are only really one or two (3 if youre skilled) viable paths on harder levels

If you've played Rolling Sky on mobile, an aesthetic and playstyle like that will suit this well and possibly net you some cash if you have nice visuals

>>175573637
All classes have their own documentation pages, some of them are lacking so you will have to ask around in the discord but the more basic stuff is explained well enough.

>>175572701
If your graphics are simple enough, you can get away with 2D software rendering. But anything beyond moderate complexity should probably be done with OpenGL instead.

>>175573694
Oh.
Yeah that would be like 4-6k sales probably
Still a hefty amount if you have zero audience
Depends on your game I guess.

>http://www.homph.com/steam/

Sales figures of agdg games are pretty different from game to game, but if your work is solid I believe 5k should be managable.

You gotta keep in mind though, that probably by june the market will change quite a bit with steam direct and in the worst of all cases you gotta consider between 1-5k dollars for actually getting your games out there.

>>175573243
Because 3D modeling and rigging is hard as fuck.
Teach me, and I will make 3D games.

>>175554424
Which engine is better for Shoot em ups/Danmaku games? I have been using touhou danmakufu but I want to change to a "real" engine but not sure if unity is very well optimized for 2D games with high number of sprites.

>>175572732
one man army or are you working with a team?

also what do your map files look like? post example pls? i'm interested in understanding how you have implemented these tiles along with entities like the tree i'm guessing.

dang, what's an artist gotta do to hook up with a programmer around here? heh

>>175574260
Will the market change for the better after they get rid of greenlight?

>>175574427
O-KA-NE

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>>175573243
But I am.
Or I was before my GPU fucking killed itself

>>175574427
take initiative and post portfolio

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Made a modular wire fence BP asset, just set the width and height and it takes care of the rest. It helped in testing the teleport stab. The shadow effect for the sword still looks a little boring, but I'm done working on this element for now.

>>175573243
Because 2d games are better.

>>175574509
That's what you get for using too many polygons

>>175574352
Your own custom engine specialized for danmakus.

>>175572946
I'm not sure. I'd like to release demo but there's not much content and too many things are broken.

>>175573051
Not yet.

>>175573239
thanks

>>175573363
GM:S

>>175574359
1MA. Maps I do with GM:S' own editor, which kinda sucks.

>>175574263
>>175573426
No excuses you could be making a simple 3D game with cubes like >>175560685

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>>175573779
$70 sounds reasonable.
If someone pays less they're probably cheap bitches.

I might need some stuff. But I'm not sure. My current musician might back out of the project because of time management reasons/other deadlines.

Is there a way to contact you?

>>175574489
It will definitely be better for the consumer when there's way less garbage on steam.
Probably not for the devs though.

>>175574665
That's no fun

>>175560685
that geometry is dissappearing before it's fully submerged. maybe you should move/alter the mesh's origin, root, bounding box size or whatever causes shit to be occluded in unity.

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Is there a specific term for simple line environment sketches?

I just need someone more artistic than me to design things for me to make, but 'concept art' seems to have connotations of being more like digital paintings than simple designs.

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>>175574718
If you've got an email I'll send you one from mine.

I don't really have an email handy without my real name in it and unfortunately I'm one of the few retards left who believes in a little separation of 4chan and real life.

>>175574881
Concept sketches?

>>175574489
Valve let it get to this point and haven't done anything for years, I don't have much hope for it.

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>>175574665
But I wanna make cool robots

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Someone help me through my plateau, please.
I'm developing in C++.

I currently have my game set up so that I have a Map object that has a member variable which is a 2D array (every tile in my map) of dynamic arrays (basically vectors) that hold Entity objects. This allows me to have as many entities on one tile as I want. (Everything in my game is an entity; air, wall, doors, player, etc.)

All Entities in the map are dynamic. They can be removed, moved, created, and interacted with.

Whenever I want to move an entity (such as the player), I call map->MoveEntity(id, pos), which basically just iterates through every Entity in the whole map (possibly thousands) until it finds a match for the ID, and then it clones the Entity to the new position and deletes the old one.

I'm obviously doing somehing retarded here, because I can't be iterating through thousands of entities every time something moves a single tile. But I'm not sure how I should be doing this instead.

Plshelp

>>175555885
What game?

>>175574938
So your name is not Steev Mike?

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>>175574636
I'm making a half-decent shmup in Unity.
You just gotta know which tools to use ( spline movement, bullet patterns engine, whatever goes into a shmup), or make your own tools for that inside the engine.

I know some people won't agree on this one, but I'm forever grateful to Unity for its ease-of-use especially in 2D. I've had a hell 6 months making a shmup in C++/SFML, so switching to Unity was like heaven to me.

>>175574881
It's still concept art. It's just line art instead of digital painting.

>>175574938
Presumably you're going to end up exchanging your email address with someone when you end up replying to them, right? You can always use a guerilla mail address as a temporary means of contact with someone instead of playing the "no YOU give me YOUR email!" "noooo, YOU give me YOUR email!" game.

>>175575172
I meant to quote >>175574352

>>175575251
My wife doesn't allow me to have additional email accounts

>>175575251
I just remembered I have one for my motorcycle channel anyway.

>>175575142
>>175574718
[email protected]

>>175575407
oh cool good luck thanks but not interested

>>175574718
But won't having less shovelware trash to compete with be better for devs too?

>>175575561
If you think you're in competition with shovelware trash then you're probably producing shovelware trash.

>>175575119
Store the 2D array coordinates in each entity and update it when it moves. Then you can just look at a specific entity and go straight to the tile you want.

>>175575561
You're making the dangerous assumption that good devs have $1000(?) to blow, while shovelware devs don't.

>>175575119
Make the map have two parts. The first part is a vector of entities, where each entity contains its own current position. The second part is a 2D array of vectors (or hashsets) of entity IDs, indicating which entities are currently at which position on the map.

Then to move entity `id` to position `pos`:
(1) Look up `entities[id]` in the entity list and get its current position. Call that `old_pos`. Update the entity's internal position to `pos`.
(2) Look up `entities_at_pos[old_pos]`. Remove `id` from the list, since the entity is no longer at `old_pos`.
(3) Look up `entities_at_pos[pos]`. Add `id` to the list.

>>175575720
So it only kicks out poor devs?

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Is there a way to have a scene where your player encounters a pair of rather intimidating characters with rather dramatic entry, without the player trying to shoot them in the face?
Without taking away the control and with no prior text/voice clues.
I'm stuck on it...

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collab with me agdg we can make beatiful western animu girls

>>175575713
>>175575832
Cheers, m80s. Knew I was retarded.
Here's hoping I get my motivation back now.

>>175576126
Okay, I'm the ideas guy.

>>175576096
>too many rathers
>not enough details
sorry can't help you familam

Why hasn't anyone adapted Machine Learning to game AI yet?

Like imagine a grand strategy game like CK2 where the AI could pull from hundreds of thousands of actual games as a test set, and learn to emulate shit actual people do.

>>175576264
for AI to work in vidya context it needs to be dumb.
what fun is a game you can't win

>>175576264
Maybe they do

This is neat though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0Gilv5wvY

>>175576096
Just put them in an unreachable spot where they can't be shot.

>>175576126
I'd love to, but I can't.

On a slightly-related note, what's the average price for indie pixel artists to draw fancy sprites for you? What about CGs? On average, do they charge more or less if you contribute your own character design for them to work off of?

>>175576096
There are countless ways you can concoct a situation in which the player is introduced to characters that they're intended to find intimidating without being able to simply kill them, but most or all of them are "Obi Wan gets killed in the laser wall hallway" tier hamhanded. You could have the characters behind bulletproof glass, could introduce them to the player through recorded footage, could have the player see them doing bad shit through a pair of binoculars (leaving them out of practical firing range), could create an excuse for why shooting them in the face immediately is a game over (they're obviously evil but the player meets them in circumstances where other parties present would attack the player for ruining a meet), the list goes on.

>>175576187
>>175576126
What is the actual breakdown of skills in agdg?

Like, i assume there should be a lot that can at least do a bit of all the roles to make game themselves,
but are there actually faggots here that ONLY know how to code or ONLY know how to art?

For me, I can't into 2D art or sound, but I can do about everything else, especially 3D.

>>175576264
>>175576365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

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>>175557676
----[ Recap ]----
Game: Neon Knights
Dev: bokchoydev
Tools: Unity, Pyxel Edit
Web: http://bokchoydev.tumblr.com/
Progress:
+ AI Bugs Fixed
+ Trade/Shop System implemented
+ Started work on saving and loading
- UI work is a nightmare

>>175576479
*Qui Gonn Jin gets killed in a laser hallway

>>175576363
Dumb but realistic is the goal.

Shit like Civ is why AI needs to improve. There, the AI is just buttfuck retarded, and the computer just gives them free resources and units to make up for it.

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>>175576496
>but are there actually faggots here that ONLY know how to code or ONLY know how to art?
you know there are, don't pretend to be an idiot for the sake of a passive aggressive insult

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>>175576496
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdz0nFLuGKsDE7sssvZGEvP6GWZq0zLcH1yuvHw7dfeUCNk_A/viewanalytics

>>175555217

That's actually good OOP practices. The child class is benefitting from inheritance. Consider the situation where you have several listeners, but all listening for the same event, it would be better to abstract that out into its own class

>>175576695
I've never considered what would be necessary for a feature like this. Are you constantly checking window resolution and having the game adjust accordingly, or is there a way to check whether the window is currently being fucked with?

I really have trouble with positionning stuff in godot

I'm trying to make a character that can shoot out a hook from someplace juste in front of him that goes in the direction where the mouse was when the hook launched
I set my hook spawn point about 45 pixel in front of my character,
but if it spawns in the right place, the direction it goes in is calculated using a point(let's call it 'c') 45pixel from the left of the screen

If I change my code so the hook go in the right direction(ie to the mouse) then its spawn point is set relative 'c', making it so that sometimes it spawns offscreen if I'm far from 'c'

On top of that the position of the hook once it's in the air is relative to my character/character's camera and thus move with it

I don't understand what's the problem because I mostly re-use code from a tutorial I followed and things worked

>>175576462
I'm an indie pixel artist, but I've got enough money coming in that I could work on something for free. What's your game about? What engine, how far are you, etc

>>175576856
I don't get it, why are there so few people over 30? You pretty much need to be at least that age to have gained enough life experience to make a worthwhile game.

IS GODOT 3 EVER COMING OUT

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>>175576990
There's probably a cleaner way but it checks every frame for "if window_size != OS.get_window_size():" and then does the necessary adjustments.

lads

how the FUCK do you compose music

every time i try and do it i spend like 4 hours putting 30 seconds of sound together and it just sounds like bleep bloop music that goes nowhere and is repetitive and annoying and simple how the fuck did toby fox do it how the FUCK

>>175577071
I don't use godot but this seems like an engine-agnostic issue. Post code. It seems like it should be pretty simple to make the hook always spawn in a certain position relative to player position and movement/facing direction.

>>175576126
Cute!

>>175577272
Are you aware that many people have spent a considerable amount of their lives getting better at composition?
>but I just want to click around and have good music happen wtf shit's retarded

>>175577262
have you heard of events?

>>175577262
I see, thanks. I'll have to check out the performance impact and see whether I can get away with this in my game.

>>175555938

First, make illegal states unrepresentable. Oftentimes, people try to make a general "state" class that contains information in it, but the problem is that sometimes that state class holds information that is unneeded or worse, information that shouldn't be available in the first place.

For example, if you have a "connection state" with the user's connection status, and that connection state stores the last ping, you're doing it wrong. Because one possible connection state is the state in which a user has not connected at all, ergo you shouldn't even have a variable for last pingtime in the general connection state class.

Now, more practically, you can handle finite state machines with methods that call upon each other. For example:

stateA(int foo) {
stateB(char bar)
}

stateB(char bar) {
stateA(int baz)
}

And each method has some piece of logic that knows which next method to call

>>175575119
use a hash?