/dsg/ - Dark Souls General

FTH builds are for ________.

never played a Dark souls game before and having a hard time deciding if I might like dark souls 3. reviews are just meme-tier jokes about how "ttly hard XXDD" the game is and not about the actual content.
is it a good rpg?

>>175431813
I'd consider playing through DS1 first.

DS1 good but it has it's ups and downs. The first game becomes a fair bit worse after you get the lordvessel, and areas like lost izalith feel downright unfinished, bosses and all. The PvP is fun but unintuative, and while it has depth it has pretty much no width since higher level play is just tapping with a light swing and rolling away plus having a good understanding backstabs and counterbackstabs and counter counter backstabs and so on.

DS3 is a little more ironed out but seems to have "missed the point" of the prior games to a degree. Lots of bosses basically ignore your positioning completely, so you can't space their attacks at all and instead just do nothing but time rolls for 10 minutes against their flurries of anime slashes until they throw you a bone and use their one stupid "just fuck my shit up" move.

>>175433591
thanks, I'll try me some DS1

>>175429619
Yorlin

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HEY

Give me a fun build for DaS1

>>175434947
it's not a phase mom/10

>>175434984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4

>>175434947

Do you have a bf?

>>175431813
play demons souls or ds1 first

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>>175434984

>>175434984

Just rush for the Great Club.

>>175434984
int build, crystal armor titanite catch pole and spells

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All right, took me almost the whole day, but here it is.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfy4svIKQL8Qw3UEW06B3dI8NFgMvi1sA-F5oZC9A-w/edit?usp=sharing

So looking at the numbers, a Sharp-infused weapon will get really shitty (but still existent) scaling from 40 Dex up to 60. On average, you'll be getting something like 1 AR per level, unless it's some shitty weapon like a dagger or whip. But once you hit 60, scaling suddenly jumps up to the neighborhood of 2-3 AR per point of Dex, with varying fall-off curves. Some weapons will start falling off once they reach 70-75 Dex, others will continue to get decent scaling up to 85. But in general, once you get past 85 Dex you're going to be getting diminished returns, down to 1 AR per level or 1 AR per 2-3 levels.

For katanas, I opted to toss in Frayed Blade as well, since it's supposedly the "penultimate" Dex weapon in the game and I had one Slabbed anyways. It actually gets pretty shitty scaling between 40 and 60, but after that it starts getting linear scaling all the way up to 99. Keep in mind, it looks impressive on that chart only because of the extra Dark damage, it becomes much less effective when you factor in split damage.

All of the above numbers were crunched with either 16 Str (base Str on Warrior class), or the base Str requirement of the weapon in question, whichever was higher.

Nth for Black Knight Sword is better than Gael's

>>175434984
wanderer with master key and grab yourself some chopsticks (estoc/tin banishment catalyst)

>>175435180
great work

>>175431813
>is it a good rpg?

These games are action RPGs. DaS3 is closer to your standard ARPG which may or may not be something you want. If you want something new, start with DaS1. If you care about stories in video games start with DaS1.

>>175435180
>all these weapons with the same moveset and weapon art but are just inferior to its clones
fuck DS3

>>175435180
...did you test this at rosaria?
You do know mugenmonkey actually shows accurate AR now, right?

I appreciate the graph

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rate my cathedral helicopter build

>>175435180
memehacki does it again

>>175435383
>79.94%

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>>175435071
Yes and he's quite a looker if I do say so myself.

>>175435343
You say that as if all the other games aren't like that too
except dark souls 2

>>175435383
>fire infused
for what purpose

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>>175435383
>that everything

>>175435368
Yes, I tested all of this at Rosaria's. I don't care that Mugen has the information, I wanted to confirm the numbers myself.

>>175435383
2 fat

Why does Gael always die to Friede's second phase?

>>175435383

>fire-infused

But you'd unironically get more effective AR at Heavy while it can be buffed.

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post messy kills

Also, why does morne's look so good on women? Really brings the butt out, like an office skirt. I guess it has it's got that "boyfriend's clothes" appeal to it as well maybe.

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Which armor looks the most like a tracksuit?

I want to make a Gael the Slav Knight cosplay

>>175435493
You got something on your face.

>>175435476
>>175435517
>>175435549
>>175435572
>>175435585
Wait no, I'm literally retarded nevermind

What is the best weapon to infuse with lightning on a STR/FAI build

something with a good return of investment and doesnt get outscaled too easily

How can anyone say Ds3 bosses are good when every single one is just spamming roll during chain attacks and trading hits with 15 chugs ready to tank through everything til Ng++

Remember in Ds1 when had to actually had to time your rolls and heals? lol no I started with ds3 Abyss Watchers are the best!! :^)

>>175435943

Lothric Knight Greatsword or Dragonslayer Axe, if you don't plan on using weapon buffs.

So I've killed everything but the DS3 final boss (I think) and thinking about snagging the DLC because I don't want the ride to end.

What soul level should I be shooting for?
(currently sl69 since that's what I vaguely remember beating DS1 at and it seemed appropriate given how this game loves copying 1 )

>>175436127
DS1 also had more bosses which were irredeemably bad though

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>>175434984

>>175436212
Appropriate level is around level 100

>>175436212
you're expected to be around SL 90 at the end of the game, give or take 10, which is fine for the DLCs. Slab your weapons.

>>175436212
>>175436257

For The Ringed City, that is.
For AoA you should be fine at somewhere around 80.

>>175435617
>he didn't just run for the fog door

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>>175436426
He was a good sport I guess, though I'd honestly probably have killed him before then if I weren't using a blood infused barbed sword, which sadly doesn't really prevent greatshield turtles from just running away once they realize they aren't winning.

Can someone please drop me a lothric knight greatsword?

Pontiffs playground just past the bonfire, SL 99, PS4
password is candy

>>175436559
just buy one off of greirat

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Anybody got a friend's greatscythe they can drop me on Xbox?

>>175436224
whats irredeemably bad besides bed of chaos triple stray demon?

>>175436642
something fucked up and he hasnt come back

how do you even sin in ds3?

>get summoned as a blue after like an hour of waiting

>host and phantom is embroiled on steps in ringed city

>they're fighting two reds, two Harald Knights, and have like 5 of the fucking lightning hollows running around underfoot

>everyone gets squashed as the reds clap at us

Why are hosts so fucking stupid? Why wouldn't he fucking fall back to the cleared areas? We could have fought on equal grounds. But no, hand them a free win. They didn't even have to attack, just keep us distracted and let the knights kill us.

>>175436759
when you piss off an npc

>>175436737
Either you haven't beaten a boss since sending him off or he died and his ashes are at either Irithyll or grand archives.

do millwood knights make anyone else think of chaos warriors from whfb

>>175436643
>on Xbox
I've got bad news for you son...

>>175436759
Literally just piss off an NPC.

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>>175436643
dam I need to do this

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>>175436876
Im at irithyll dungeon and havent seen him so probably archives

which Id like a better weapon for hence why im asking for someone to spare me one

someone willing to drop me a follower javelin +10 for +5 gael gs
pc at tower on wall
pass dsg

whats a good amount of stamina to have for a great hammer build?

>>175436792
>be host
>watch blueberries get summoned in
>gesture at them to stay and wait for the invader
>but no, they rush into an area full of mobs
>darkmoon blade Dumbarse has died
>it happens again
>blue sentinel Knobhead has died

>>175436995
If you sent him off to Irithyll his ashes will be in the sewer with the bone centipedes, near where you get emit force from seigward. If you sent him to Grand Archives his ashes will be about midway through grand archives on the roof with the corvians that you have to drop down to.

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What did he mean by this?

>>175437275
amazing chest ahead

>>175437075
can also drop souls

So is OnlyAfro really a full on hormones taking trap or is this just the character he plays?

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What did Miyazaki mean by this?

>>175436896
Should I just give them my shekels for a PC copy? I've been waiting for it to go back on sale but who knows when that'll be.

>>175437326
A little of column A, a little of column B...
He's playing it up for his viewers because they eat that gay shit up.
But he's also a big gay homo.

>>175437468
Never buy a souls game on PC.

>>175437468
Never take advice from Lucifer.

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no steal set...

>>175437468
There's always at least one Steam sale a month. The last DaS3 discount was a few weeks back, so it might be a while. Unless you get lucky with a Bamco publisher sale that is.

I wouldn't recommend buying the same game more than once in any case, even on sale you'll still be paying close to $60 for the full package.

>>175437612
>>175437468
Never take advice from Lucifer.
BUT also never buy a Souls game on PC, because it's chock full of cheating CE users.

>>175437765
>chock full
Bullshit, I've encountered like 2 cheaters in 250 hours.

>>175437765
>because it's chock full of cheating CE users
I don't get it, do console players imagine every PC player is using CE cheats in pvp?

>>175437862
I literally just saw my first one in 300 hours.

He had a big head. That was it.

>>175437862
It's funny how cheaters constantly spout that same bullshit, but every stream tends to encounter them, the threads regularly feature videos of cheaters, and the OP even has cheat tables included in it.

Is the white birch bow good as far as bows go?
Looking for one that scales well off of str.

>summoned as blue
>find invaders
>host BC's me (i think)

>summoned again
>"unable to join session"

end my life

Are faith builds OP now and if not what's the most OP build in PvE? Just want to rush through ng++.

>>175435943
Sunlight SS. Gets around 370 AR on a pure faith build with minimal str/dex iirc and almost ends up in GS territory on a STR/FAI build

It fucking melts bosses in pve with LB/DMB. In pvp, bait people into rolling into you with L-arrow then smack the shit out of them with your sword.

>>175438168
>Looking for one that scales well off of str.
M I L L W O O D
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>>175434984
going off the previous thread:
Build a dex/int twink by doing the following sequence break:

Start: Banishment Catalyst + Eagle Shield + Power Within
>sorceror with master key.
>New londo then blighttown
>heavy soul arrow, tin banishment catalyst, crimson set
>farm green titanite in blighttown while you're there
>optional: grab power within and eagle shield
>Quelaag is your first boss.

Part 2: Fire+5 Lucerne + Gravelord Sword Dance
>back to firelink
>catacombs, vamos,
>Fire+5 weapon (recommended: Lucerne)
>kill pinwheel, grab seance ring, join gravelord covenant
>back to firelink, grab talisman from chest

Part 3: Great Heavy Soul Arrow + Bellowing Dragoncrest + Dusk Crown + Magic Shield + Previous
>undead burg
>use jump skip to get to lower undead burg
>rescue griggs, buy good sorceries
>back up to regular undead burg
>havel, darkroot basin
>hydra, rescue dusk
>Oolacile ivory catalyst, dusk crown
>Sif is your Second Boss, pinwheel doesn't count
>backtrack up through to the blacksmith
>sen's funhouse
>kill gargoyles for demon titanite

From there it's just a linear curb stomp for the whole game.

Anyone on PS4 assist with an item transfer?

>>175438234
Pyromancy is most OP in PvE. Just use P. Mercury for Midir and dark pyromancy for the demon princes.

>>175437862
>>175437932
>>175438042
A friend of mine has DaS3 on PC. He installed CE just to see how many were cheating.
Something like 70-80% of the people he encountered in multiplayer has stats that didn't match their SL. Duels, invasions, co-op... the vast majority of other players he met had either grossly inflated stats or were more subtle about it, like 50-60 in every stat or some shit.
This, of course, led him to be tempted to inflate his own stats to "get back at them"...
It's a vicious fucking cycle, man.

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>>175438210
join a real covenant, bitch boy

So I'm currently at a military school to learn Arabic. In an effort to immerse myself in the language I'd like to watch some decent streamers/uploaders who speak Arabic, preferably Iraqi. Doubtful anyone would know but if you've got a suggestion I'm all ears.

>>175438437
look man I'd rather be invading but there's no power on heaven or earth that will make me farm those knights

>>175438409
>This, of course, led him to be tempted to inflate his own stats to "get back at them"...

It's been my experience that Mustards will use any excuse to justify cheating or so they don't have to admit they are bad/casual.

>>175438461
>inb4 someone starts linking ISIS beheading videos

>>175438409
>the vast majority of other players he met had either grossly inflated stats or were more subtle about it, like 50-60 in every stat or some shit.
Wait, couldn't you use passwords to have your SL120 friend help our your new character?

>This, of course, led him to be tempted to inflate his own stats to "get back at them"...
literally the loser's logic, you get back at them by being better and slapping their shit with longsword +3

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>>175435180
>didnt put my request for dagger and winged spear on the list when you had already said you would
anon im dissapointed in you

>>175438072
>confirmation bias
Forget it, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. You don't play on PC, so stop pretending you know shit about it.

>>175438252
Looking for a punisher and quicker bow honestly

Millwood is super fun though.

>>175438662
>all this real evidence of cheaters doesn't count because I don't like it

>>175438409
Someone needs to do a video where they actually count the cheaters over a 2-3 hour period of PvP

this is just speculation without proof

>>175438409
My confession to ce is to test out a new weapon build before I do a full playthrough.

And sometimes, to add more spice to replay I start with desirable weapon.

But I was unaware that was happening. wtf.

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>>175438747
Heard composite bow is the way to go, it scales better than the short bow and has that pesky roll-attack which can catch people who are mashing r1.

Try the mugen and see which gets better stats.

>making a build is for fun than actually playing said build

anyone else know this feel?

>>175438563

I already watch that stuff anyway.

>>175438168

White Birch Bow has the same running and rolling shots that the only decent regular bows have but the Composite still has more AR than it so it doesn't matter. I don't get the point of the White Birch Bow honestly because it has the same mediocre quality scaling as every bow in 3 with a WA that seems functionally pointless for being an 'invisible' arrow.

>>175438787
There's literally no evidence, it's just hearsay

Until someone actually sits down and does a video where they show how many cheaters vs non cheaters they encounter over a period of time (and actually show the CE output to show they were really cheaters) then none of this debate matters

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>no dragonsis
Lets fix that.

>tfw wish just bow pvp was viable outside of "haha caught ya while I was obscured from 10km away with a Millwood / Dragonslayer"

I just wanna be a bowman.

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>>175439125
>its different than the other image

You better post that shit anon.

Man, this Darkmoon shit is fucked.

Sometimes I get summoned into a fight club, watch three reds die, and get a concord for each one.

Sometimes I get summoned, the red dies, and nothing.

This time I got summoned, the host killed one red while I faced the other, I got a concord. Then I, solo, killed my red, no concord. The host and his phantom killed a third red, I despawn, no concord. What are the rules on this?

>>175439236
I wish I had the full one, anon.

>>175439124
You basically just admitted that you know there are plenty of cheaters on PC. Just look at your own phrasing.

>how many cheaters vs non cheaters

If you believed that shit you were saying you would have said something about showing proof of a cheater instead. Congrats on outing yourself.

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>>175439125

>>175439268
>get summoned in as Darkmoon while Rapport farming for weapon upgrade materials
>well.jpg
>get summoned to fucking Swamp of Sorrows
>start killing a purple
>You are being summoned as a Blade of the Darkmoon...
>kicked out of host world and put back in mine

I give up.

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>>175439125
srsly though this thread needs more Gwyndolyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
best waifu

>>175439124
Please stop giving him replies, it's pointless to argue with him.

are rolling attacks and weapon arcs the only things worth going for the parry on? everything else seems just like guessing with the lag.

>>175438610
>Wait, couldn't you use passwords to have your SL120 friend help our your new character?
Sure, but your stats would still be grossly out of whack with your SL if you're cheating.
>literally the loser's logic, you get back at them by being better and slapping their shit with longsword +3
That's my point. Just the availability and ubiquity of CE presents "arguments" for baddies to perpetuate the problem.

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>>175439297
Why do you tease me so?

>>175439375
It's pointless because you already lost this. Pretending there are no hackers, or that they are rare, isn't going to work anymore.

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>>175439125

>>175439412
Ask the drawfriend who posted it...

>>175439360
lmfao how the fuck does this even happen

I thought npc invaders still show up in offline mode, but neither kirk nor heysel invaded me yet hodrick did. i went online and kirk invaded me. what the fuck

is the rose of ariandel any good?

>>175439483
I did, he didn't reply. I wish I knew his name.

Show me some fun SL80 builds lads

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>trying to use soothing sunlight on high faith build
>cooping nameless king
>host gets impaled
>start casting it where i know he's going to end up getting thrown
>works perfectly
>it doesn't heal him when he's on the ground
>gets clouded to death
Why is this spell so bad

>>175439023
Atleast its fashionable i guess.

>>175439124
It works both ways, dummy, your own claims are just as much hearsay. You don't get to dismiss other people's claims of having seen rampant cheating as anecdotal while your own personal experience of totally never seeing a single cheater in all your 300+ hours of playing, nosiree, is somehow ironclad evidence.

Anyone here play on xbox want to part with the winged knight twinaxes? I dont got shit to give you, but I'd appreciate it

>>175439591
nothing works when youre on the ground
healing
damage
aux effects
youre just retarded

GOD I CANT FUCKING TAKE OFF ALDRICH COVENANT BECAUSE IT'S NON STOP LITERALLY FROCED TO QUIT AND RELOAD IN OFFLINE MODE HOLY SHIT

>>175439646
>your own claims are just as much hearsay.

what claims? I'm not the same guy saying there's no hackers. I'm saying this debate is bullshit until someone produces actual numbers

>>175439728
lmao

>>175439380
>Sure, but your stats would still be grossly out of whack with your SL if you're cheating.
My point is, the stats being out of whack doesn't necessarily mean someone is cheating with their CE; the game has been out for a while, it's not surprising to see a lot of people helping out other people who just started. And as far as I could tell, doesn't FROM detect the discrepancy based on the online saved data and the local one? Only thing that bypasses this is item picked up, which is why you can do item swaps without a worry.

>That's my point. Just the availability and ubiquity of CE presents "arguments" for baddies to perpetuate the problem.
Honestly, PC isn't the only platform someone have access to cheats, if anyone wanted to, they can get one in any platform. Also you can't forget that PC platform has the most players, so it is no surprising to encounter cheaters since there are more people overall.

>>175438240
Can you please post a build for this, sounds right up my alley

Does dragon form in dark souls 2 increase the damage you deal?

>>175439646
It usually goes like this;
My anecdotal evidence of little hackers.

versus

Their second-hand anecdotal evidence of hackers being rampant on a platform they are not on.

Arguably, I would say mine is better just by experience.

>>175439728
Sprint into Pontiff's church, I don't think you're summoned there

>>175439841
The roar does, yes.

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>>175423441
*blocks your path*

>>175439962
Not them, but how would you know you've encountered few hackers if you didn't have CE installed yourself?
DRIVE BY POINT AND GAME

>Invade as Mad Phantom at Smouldering Lake
>Some poor sod and his friend hiding in the wrong place to kill the sandworm, getting smashed by the ballista
>Curl up in the right spot, point down at it, try to show them
>They attack me
>They chase me in circles until the ballista kills them both

That's what I get for trying to do something nice I guess.

I love Dragons.

>>175439840
Just go 60 FTH with a regular talisman, 18-24 ATN depending on how many spells you want

Then equip whatever fashion you want

>>175439830
>if anyone wanted to, they can get one in any platform

not really, most firmware hacks to allow you to run a cheat application on a console won't let you log into PS or XB's online servers.

The save files are encrypted, but you can bruteforce them and edit them. However, save editing is how you get caught

The reason there are cheaters on PC is because PC gaming is still niche in Japan and I doubt From knows CE even exists.

>>175440224
>invade as mad phantom in Smouldering Lake
>run past everything
>dodge black k***ht
>turn off ballista
>BC out
ABSOLUTELY MAD

>tfw keep invading into 3man ganks
>these phantoms are literally one-hitting everything in the level
>no matter what I do I can't help but get clipped for all my health, even at 32 vig

Sorc life is suffering.

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>want to make wizard man
>game forces you to wear stupid fucking gay crown of dusk +3 mandatory rings to do even somewhat decent damage

>>175440341
C-can I turn off the ballista as a mad phantom?

I kinda feel like being a cunt

>>175440398
Off AND on.

>finally getting dcs
They're next to bonfires too

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>>175439840
Also, depends on whether you want strong miracles or just use faith for buffs and the like. SSS will do more damage at 40/40 Str/fai compared to something like 20/60, but imo the latter is better because it gives you access to better spells

Here is a shitty build i put together

>>175440463
It begins

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>host and phantom chase me into the first rotfly room in Ashes
>they try and bumrush me
>both of them get grabbed
>CRAWWWWWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIN
>THESE BLEEEDS THEY WILLLL NOT HEAAAAAAAL

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I need halp transferring some weapons to my pyro build.
On PS4.
Anyone lend a hand?
I can service you too~

>>175440595
>parting flame in left hand
>demon scar in main hand
>need a torch to get rid of worms
Bravo, memeazaki

Man I hope the infinite respec feature wont get deleted

>>175440656
Highwall, pass is dsg

>>175440731
It fucking will.
Now that it's been posted on Reddit, it'll keep getting reposted until From patches it out. Because people are shit.

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When will dragon mode get buff?

>>175440876
At least PCucks can always go offline, load up CE, and reset their respec count

>>175440990
never ever :(

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how do I become a berserker, /dsg/?

doesn't have to be viking-themed, but it does have to feel wild and aggressive

>>175441124
>Iron Flesh
>Millwood Axe
>66 fucking Strength
>Red Tearstone Ring
>Offhand Morion Blade
BECOME UNSTOPPABLE

>>175440805
Thanks!
Ninja build?
If so, nice.
Again, thanks.

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>>175439581
40/40 flynns+caestus w/blessed weapon

put 1 point into FTH and wear priest ring when you want to cast your buff, remove and replace ring when buffed.

have fun poise comboing retards!

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>tfw reaping blue tongues by sitting here and watching them get summoned into the Earth Shaker pit below
>finally get kicked out of game for a connection error, probably because I only changed emotes and didn't do anything else

Oh well.

>>175441124
>become a lord's personal bodyguard and champion
>wear a bearskin jacket
That's pretty much it.

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>TFW no qtpie gwyndolyn to hug and squeeze and dick softly when i wake up and go to sleep
FKING KILL ME PLS

>>175441448
Stop reposting the same shit every thread you faggot.

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>>175439373

>Kill Aldrich.
>Unlocks Smough's set at the Handmaiden.
>No Dark Sun set.

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>>175441484
>is posting the same shit every thread himself
WEWLAD
E
W
L
A
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Is it possible darksouls 2 takes place in the far future past das3?

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>>175440143
Sharkdudes are the more fair, manageable kind of bullshit. It's a whole another story when the drop through the floot into a pitch black pit at some FRC and start feeling the presence of the shadows.

>>175441603
Dark Souls 2 is non-canon.

>>175440876
I'd be surprised if it got patched.

It doesn't break the game, affect pvp balance, or exploit any combat mechanic.

The Fire Fades contains all the current patches, so if they released a new patch, it would mean that their "patched" disc version of the game needs to
download further patches to play online.

For anything coming from the english version of the game From relies on bandai namco (who relies on their community managers) to alert them of a necessary patch.

Do you really think Bandai Namco is going to view this as enough of a impedance to player experience to warrant allocating further budget for a game that has no new releases ever coming out? How many people do you think won't buy dark souls because they hear about the respec glitch?

I can understand patching the WA combo exploit for greatswords a while back, because it actually affects player experience. But respecs have no impact on the player experience unless you're the one using the glitch (and even then, it doesn't change anything in game it just avoids having to start a new save file, which you could ALREADY do by backing up your saves)

all of this adds up to bandai going "fuck it" and ignoring it even if they find out.

>>175441210
this sounds really fun anon. any fashion recommendations?

>>175441787
Something with big poise. Try matching the Millwood set with stuff for maximum berserker.

>>175441124

Winged Knight Twinaxes

Millwood Helm, Exile Armor if you want to be bearmode, otherwise mix and match Northern and Pyromancer sets.

As someone who just helped someone with aldrich I wish the arrow hail split in two, like if you're gonna push roflstomping bosses then the bosses need ways of pushing back, getting to free cast on gwyn because his arrows are chasing the host is fucking stupid

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>>175441124

>Tfw no accessible bearskin set after three whole games.

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>pepper host with farron darts
>make him think he's secure to tank some
>doesn't roll as much
>fire a css
>hes caught off-guard and he gets 1-hit

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>>175441332
>quality post patch
It's dead, anon. Literally every single infuseable weapon is better either Sharp or Heavy. On that build you can go just 40 Dex with base STR and only lose 20 AR while saving 30 levels

How do I use the Winged Knight Twinaxes? Is there a combo I should use?

>>175441861
Why? The vast majority of people who co-op aren't doing it for a challenge.

>>175440990
Try Wolf Knight Greatsword, it's slightly better

No reason to use Farron Sword because the dagger has basically zero parry frames anyway

Can you not use dsfix and the item randomizer mod in ds1? I got the randomizer to work fine no trouble but now dsfix is just not launching, didn't see anything about it online

>>175441998

Quality isn't dead so much as Sharp and Heavy are now comparable or better in a lot of cases. Quality still has the advantage of being able to use almost every weapon at optimal or close to scaling and being best for most uninfusable weapons still which are mostly quality like boss or twinkling weapons.

>>175442045

L1 into L1 is the only combo you need really. Make sure to have bundles or resin on it when you can to inflict even more damage. Basic R1s combo into an L1 if you want but the R1s have less range and are slower than L1s after the TRC buffed the L1s. R2s are useless. The WA is situationally useful for trading if you have decent poise and can time it right.

ded general ded gaem

>one year ago
>invade, nothing but gank squads and R1 spamming
>get back into the game
>invade again, nothing but gank squads and R1 spamming
Invading is still just as terrible as always. And what's with the uptick in blueberries?

>>175442361
Did you really expect invasions to change?

>>175442361
some people were still invading so M had to fix that

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SOMEONE POST THE WEAPON TIER LIST, I've been gone for quite a while and want to see what's changed

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>>175442542

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>>175442542

>>175431813
7/10

the game is too easy though, the estus flask trivialises the game

>>175442193
If almost every weapon is better with a different infusion, and for less stats to boot, then it is dead. Having access to more weapons is irrelevant at this point. That is only really a benefit when the game is new because it lets you find a favorite, but the game has been out long enough for people to do that.

>>175442494
>>175442498
Why did they stray so far from DaS1 style invasions? The whole balance to using humanity in DaS was that you could get invaded, in DaS3 the only way to get invaded is by summoning a million fucking people that will pamper you.

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Time to roll dsg.

>>175442656

I'm gay.

>>175442656

That still doesn't take away the many quality exclusive weapons that are still amazing like Gael's, Wolf Knight, Valorheart and the Black Knight weapons. It may just be me too but I like having a basic build that allows me to use a variety of weapons whenever I want, and a 120 quality build can still hit the relevant softcaps in everything it needs.

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>>175439581
low level magic

>>175442778
Based

>>175442707
Rolling for poise

>>175442687
Because fuck you

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>>175442542
>every weapon that gives you hyperarmor
>POWERGAP
>every weapon that doesn't give you hypyerarmor
>torch
>dagger, whips, reapers, fist&claws

>>175442573
>>175442591
a fine dark soul etc

>>175442802
>complaining about this

You were in a 3v1 and didn't pay attention to the caster shooting very slow spells

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What catalyst fits the theme of necromancy better in dark souls 1? In dark souls 2 the Bone Staff is perfect, and in dark souls 3 the Murky Longstaff is good enough, but idk what'd look like a staff a necromancer would use in dark souls 1.

>>175443023
noones complaining

im saying magic does a lot of damage

>>175443029
Crucifix of the Mad King

>>175443029
Demon's or Oolacile.

>>175443091
The webm name seems pretty whiny.

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>>175442948
sickeningly true

STR became the cancer

>>175442361
get gud kiddo, I win the vast majority of my invasions anywhere from sl25 to sl125

>>175442802
>>175443091
You just suck. No one said magic didn't do damage. They said the high damaging spells will never hit anyone with half a brain. All you had to do there is roll to the right, and the railing would have blocked the shot, allowing you to chug. You still had plenty of stamina and estus.

I wish they'd port BB over to PC, i'm tired of being a sony pony, and I want some decent frames for a change.

Also, I recently changed my mind on DS2. It's honestly better then DS3, and I feel like I misjudged it.

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>>175443132
I guess Demon's looks more like a bone. Thanks anon.
>>175443114
Joke's on you. I already have that on my DS3 necromancer

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I made a DaS side-by-side comparison screenshot with PC and Xbox 360 to show how nice you can make DaS look(not meant to show how underpowered 360 is, 360 is old so there's no point in that)

http://i.imgur.com/Ncv5hXU.jpg

>>175443252
why do you even still post here

honestly, nobody likes you and everyone knows you're a complete retard
do you need to be made into a complete joke one more time by afro/ippiki/whoever the fuck again before you fuck off again until another wave of newfags who don't know you shows up?

>>175443252
have you learned to roll through wog yet?

fuck off to bbg you rank amateur.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/186523

Will I make it w/ no poise guysss?

>>175442707
These charts are so confusing and none of these rites are interesting.

I'd like someone to make a chart with custom, albeit more meaningful restrictions like the skyrim roll chart

>>175443287
Its okay. We all make mistakes but dsg is forgiving. Especially to those who give Ds2 another chance

>>175443252
holy shit you tard every knows magic only works when you're in a group and someone is pre occupied with fighting and that's exactly what it showed, get your head out your ass

>>175443406
I play without poise.

>>175443441
No, you could excuse the first hit to that, it you really stretch, but that second hit was pure lack of skill on the invader's part.

I keep hearing people talk about poise in dark souls 3 now, did they change it or something? Can someone give me a run-down?

Is it possible to beat the nun without summoning Gael? I can get through her first two phases without being touched, but in her third stage her attack chains are too relentless, there are no gaps to dodge through and not enough stamina to block them and I get wrecked every time.

>>175443525
oh right I forgot your an imbecile who plays with 20/20 hindsight, why didn't he just spell parry and kill the phantoms with it?

>>175443406

None of your weapons even benefit from poise so it doesn't matter. Maybe Milliwood but WAs tend not to need much poise to HA through shit.

>>175443546
If you get hit while not attacking, you will always get staggered.

If you swing a big weapon and have poise, it's a lot harder for the other guy to stagger you out of your attack, and thus your big weapon will still follow through and hit the other guy for massive damage. In other words, poise helps you win trades.

>>175434984
I don't think I have ever had as much fun in any game ever as I did invading Sen's Fortress cosplaying as the Iron Golem. I always used that spell that slowed you to a walk and stomped around like a badass scaring the fuck out of people. Shit was cash.

>>175442802
waah waah make magic do even LESS damage so it's both easy to dodge AND easy to tank!

>>175443556
The best advice I can give you is to learn to roll into and to the shield arm of every boss, it works like a charm. And I know she dual wields, but always roll to the offhand. Just don't get greedy, her combos in phase three are usually either 3 or 4 hits then pause. You just have to be patient and punish her.

Also, I'm very lonely. I usually have a bad personality as a defense, I'm afraid to let anyone get close. Can we be friends?

>>175443546
It's just glorified hyper armor. Unless you plan to aim for trades with big weapons, there is no real reason to bother with it.

>>175443653
>hindsight
You can see the spell coming right at him in the webm.

>>175442802

Rule one of invasion. Find the mage, kill it. Fuck mages.

>>175443745
>You can see the spell coming right at him in the webm.
Yeah that's what i'm saying he should have just jumped over the spell the used a plunging attack on the host

>>175443556
Yes, it's possible to kill Friede solo.

You have to play SUPER defensive, though, because she has retarded reach, 360 degree attacks with extended damage frames, and flies around like a motherfucker. Stay at mid-distance until she does a leap, roll through, hit once, then run the fuck away.

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>>175443886

>>175443726
>>175443745
fucking kill me now we have 2 lucys

time to go to reddit

Hey, what's going on, Lucy almost sounds like a reason--
>Lucifer ss9GITmavRN
>Lucifer !!ss9GITmavRN
Oh, I see. Clever, anon!

>>175443886
>plays like a tard
>gets rekt
>posts on 4chan expecting a hug box
>MAGICK OP AMIRITE
>gets BTFO again
>butt at maximum levels

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>>175443886
>plunging attack
>not GOOMBA STOMP
what a missed opportunity for a perfect post

>>175444002
There can't be enough Lucy's in this world. We all spread our own love and kindness.
>>175444018
Anon, what do you mean? I still want to make some friends. I just act abrasive as a defense mechanic. I was bullied a lot as a child. But i'm ready for my first real friend!

Someone respond... please?

>>175444056
butt hurt, eve

>>175444112
I'll be your friend luci, we can talk about my massive boner for dragonsis and Gwyndolin.

>>175444112
dont worry lucy im sure youll 100% bloodborne by the time bloodborne 3 comes out!

then you can act like an expert in /bb3g/ and tell us how you "popularised" the saw cleaver!!

>>175433591
>but seems to have "missed the point" of the prior games to a degree

DS2 missed the point a lot more, IMO.

>>175444160
>dragonsis

You are now speaking the language of the inexorable Lucifer ss9GITmavRN

Can you Australia fucks quit playing the game, it's not fun for either side when you teleport everywhere with latency out the ass.

>>175444175
Well I know I didn't really popularize anything... I just get so wrapped up in my own self importance that I take credit for some stuff when I shouldn't. I really just want people to think i'm a good person... but it usually comes off in the wrong way. I will try my best to 100% BB, and even thought I don't think you meant it like that I will take your words to heart and I will use them to inspire me.

>>175444160
I thought your name was Yorlon? But I will gladly be your friend. I don't really understand your crusade, but I welcome your friendship!

>>175444260
honestly id rather just see australia get better internet

poor bastards have the same internet quality i had in 2005

>>175444260
Speak for yourself, some of us have a fetish for arse-extruded latency.

>>175444224
>>175444307
You love me so much you use multiple IPs to post under the same name? I've never had a boyfriend before, just mean guys who use me for a quickie and move on, but if you show such compassion, will you be mine?

Nobody else understands my raw desire to be a dragon and crush everyone who called me mean things in highschool.

>>175444260
noone with more than like 50 ping (generous) should be able to play

if the game wasn't peer to peer that would be a different story

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>>175444309
>open a webm on 4chin
>medium quality stream i'm watching starts lagging
I'd settle for the fucking ABN coming to my area at this point

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>Kind of have an itch to play DaS2
>Looking up videos of SotFS because I don't have the game on PC and want to see what changed
>The falconeer guys have sick-ass sabres
>You can't get them

It's always the fucking worst when an enemy has a cool weapon that would be super easy to give to the player, and they just don't. I don't even care if it would just be another sword with the longsword moveset, that always rustles my jim-jams.

Also, has hatred for DaS2 died down at all? I feel like, in hindsight, it wasn't terrible, but I think it was for the best that it was basically ignored by DaS3, for better or for worse.

I might pick SotFS up during a sale, just to scratch my itch for more Dark Souls.

>>175444309
good internet becoming a human right when?

>>175444402
Lucy is love, lucy is life. And I do understand your desire. People bullied me in highschool too. I tried to stand up to them when they'd hit me, I'd try to debate them... but the brutes just ravaged me.

Also /dsg/ I love you all and I hope you all have a great day!

>>175444486
>I don't even care if it would just be another sword with the longsword moveset

i care

they could use the exact same amount of effort porting a weapon from an enemy that isn't just another generic sword

i'd rather have something like the soldering iron even if it's shit

>>175444486
People never hated DaS2. They were just dissapointed by it.

It's not awful, and a lot of people like it, but I'm not one of them. Played through it once, only really had fun during a handful of the bosses.

>when you run into a friend as an phantom of the host your friend is invading
>tfw you stomp his ass into next week
Feels good.

>>175444619
DaS2 is a terrible Souls game. On its own it is just a mediocre game.

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Think this is somehow associated with Gael?

>>175441998
It's really not though. many of the best weapons in each class are uninfusable and has dual scaling

Besides, if you ignore either STR or Dex completely you are effectively wasting your starting stats in one of them

>>175444018
>pretend to be luci
>give reasonable advice so people pay attention and remember you
>but always remind people how fucking awful you are
>the real luci ends up looking completely ridiculous by comparison, AND everyone thinks he's awful

this is genius

also, I can't ever get an erection without first being praised for my opinion

>>175444737
something something abyss artorias oocacil manus vati dark souls something

yes I cant spell, this is a shitpost.

>>175438990
I spend more time on mugen watching numbers change than I do actually making the build.
Doesn't help that a lot of stuff I tend to need or want is locked behind 3 lords.

>>175444608
It's fine to say that, but I'm sure if From kept statistics I'd say less then a % of people have equiped t he Soldering iron for more then a half hour in the whole entirety of the game.

There's plenty of weapons with different movesets in Ds2, I think I am just overly critical of DS2 and I need to stop being so harsh about the game. It's the second best dark souls game.

In fact, I'd do the rankings DS1>DS2>DeS>DS3>BB

I'd put BB and DeS higher if they gave t hem PC ports. I want to like those games, but 30 fps is trash can tier.

>>175444486
There are two main reasons why it was ignored by Miyazaki:

1. DaS2 deliberately set itself off from the story of the gods of Lordran, so it's difficult to directly reference it back in (though we still see more characters returning from DaS2 than from DaS3).

2. The story wasn't written by Miyazaki, so he deliberately made the decision to continue the story that he himself wrote. It's director's courtesy that you leave another director's story and characters to that director, that's also kind of why Tanimura made DaS2 the way he did.

As for the hate, it still gets it. The people who bought into the game at launch just can't let go of it, though the game did improve greatly with patches and SotFS. Regardless, SotFS is what the game should have been at launch, there's no arguing that vanilla DaS2 was a clusterfuck.

All areas in DaS3 simply do not have enough mobs to support a 1v3 invasion

>>175444828
Based real Luci

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>>175441967
>be using the patented Fextralife wiki Concord farming method with a respec
>get summoned
>see mad phantom and he dies a second later because the host had two summons already
>concord fullfilled
>huh.jpg
>keep farming
>get summoned
>mad phantom again
>literally just stood back, spammed HCS, then farron hail'd him dead in a single cast once he tried to approach
>concord fulfilled

Being a dorkmoon mage is easy lel

I never even took the Symbol of Avarice off

>>175444859
It's honestly a pretty common problem. It's fun to make builds, try and eek out a little more omph out of a build... but leveling and playing through DS3's pve is such a slog from start to finish. I think there's like three area's I enjoy, and everything else is just a chore. But keep on doing what you do anon, as long as you enjoy it, it's worth doing.

Also, i'm trying to learn to pvp. I'm doing arena and I have a bronze skull next to my name, how many ranks are there for me to climb? I'm already at a .5 win loss ratio, and the competition is getting stiff, I hope I don't have much higher to go to get to the top of the mountain. I love you /dsg/ cheer me on.

>>175444861
>>175444608
kill yourself
bb is the best souls game

>>175444619
The hatred for DS2 died down as soon as DS3's hype was over and people realized that DS2 did a lot of things right. It also helped that it's now common knowledge that the game was heavily compromised development-wise.

People miss DS2 for the pvp, the slower and more methodical mechanics, the more open world, and the sheer size of the game.

SOTFS is definitely worth picking up, though you might want to wait for a sale. At $40 it's hard to justify over DS3 TFF.

I truly do love DS2 though, I think if it had just better graphical design and a world layout that was more cohesive, it would be far better than DS1 or DS3. Maybe better bosses, too, or at least let you skip more of them (perhaps a faster way through the shrine of winter than 1m souls).

>>175444960
That's true to an extent, but I don't think anyone is delusional to think Miyazaki intentionally puts a lot of things into the game to further the story. The general consensus is that he puts in stuff he thinks is cool, and then tries to shoehorn the lore in after.

Look at Filinore, she's a reference to a anime, right? But she makes no sense in the lore at all. She's the one kid of Gywns that doesn't have his name in her own, he gives her to the pygmies, and theres zero reference to her in any game till the last minute.

It's honestly why DS2 is the best DS game when it comes to Lore. The story was better woven, and wasn't shoehorned in to explain an item that he added just because it sounded cool.

Reminder that ds2 is literally more of dark souls game then ds3 is .
Also I really like this area .

>>175445263
thanks for the keks anon

>>175445069
The only area I actually dislike is Farron Keep.

>>175445263
>It's honestly why DS2 is the best DS game when it comes to Lore. The story was better woven, and wasn't shoehorned in to explain an item that he added just because it sounded cool.
DUDE
REMEMBER ORNSTEIN
REMEMBER THE LEO RING
I CLAPPED
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW HIM
IT BROKE NEW GROUND

>>175445136
But it isn't anon. Not while it's trapped on the worst platform to play souls games on. I would give my kidney to stop being forced to be a sony pony, and switch to playing BB on PC. Also, the fact that the game has a lot of trashcan tier bosses and the story was just more "That sounded cool so I will just cram it in and explain it later".

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>>175445312
God fucking damn it , forgot to include an image .

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I need a list of what gets rediculous ar for raw. All I know so far is dragonslayers axe and the broadsword. Any greatswords that get good raw? I remember the flamberge used to get good ar too but I think the infusion patch made it no better than a raw claymore.

>>175445136
>Sonydrone

>>175444861
>>175445136
When they first came out:

BB>DS3>DeS>DS1>SOTFS>DS2
<Most Hyped ---- Most Disappointed>

In 2017, after patches, fixes, mods, DLC, and re-releases, first time playing each game

DS1>BB>DS3>DeS>SOTFS>DS2
<Best to play now --- Aged Poorly>

In 2017, after you've played them multiple times and they've aged (multiplayer and replay value only)

DS1>SOTFS>DS3>BB>DeS>DS2
<Best To revisit --- Got boring fast>

>>175445446
Corvian Greatknife is still good, but it lost a bit of AR when Raw. Like 12 or so though, it's nothing.

>>175445446
Drakeblood

>>175445418
that's the only dark souls area in the game

>>175445316
I don't understand, but if I can make your day brighter you're welcome. Anything to be helpful to my friends in /dsg/.

>>175445362
While both sequels do pander, I feel like DS2's was done to a minimal. But there was a lot of new lore and new characters in DS2, while DS3 almost every NPC is a throwback to the original Dark Souls.

This is why DS>Ds2>DeS>DS3>BB.

>>175445480
>>175445369
b8
>>175445457
Not an argument
BB is the best souls , it's a fact .

>>175445418
>there's an area that was obviously supposed to have a bonfire in it
>the area is actually x10 times better because it didn't
Take me back to when bonfires were few

>>175445362
someone needs to make a video like that for DS3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyuPLpVti8

oh wait

I wonder what setting the next soulslike from From Software is going to have.

I really hope it's either sci-fi or western

>>175445597
Casuals took over the series
that's why there are so many fucking bonfires in ds3

>>175445446
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/151rdCnXVxKPaMcF8XUq9le2fFBS2uOFsv0kCouNpFpc/htmlview#gid=357720482

Here you go anon, peruse at your own lesure.

>>175445570
Our opinions differ anon, but I respect yours and I hope you keep on being the free thinker you are. If BB is the best souls game, don't let anyone change your opinion. Do what feels right to you.

Also, my win loss rate just tanked to .25% in arena. I lose my bronze skull. Can anyone tell me how to pvp? I want to "git gud", but it's really hard.

>>175445570
>BB is best souls

only if you don't care about pvp and you only want to play it a few times before moving on to other titles

which is like 90% of players

>be squishy sorc
>be fucking terrible at pvp
>get invaded by str/fai user with Dragonslayer Greataxe
>actually win
What the hell just happened?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/186536
:^)

>>175445751
U GOT GUD HOMIE

>>175445751
Big smashy weapons are pretty much countered by ranged attacks.

>>175445529
>while DS3 almost every NPC is a throwback to the original Dark Souls.

Care to elaborate? Are you talking about the Firelink NPCs?

>>175445751
Great Axes and Hammers are the worst crap you can use. They are so slow that even magic can out pace them.

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>tfw doing a STR/FAI playthrough but can't find any use for the FAI part

>>175445842
I choose to believe they'd fought people who were better than me a lot, and were caught off guard by just how objectively terrible I was.

What's some good fashion to use with Vilhelm's chestpiece? I really like the chainmail poncho look.

>>175445916
What do you mean? Just use healing spells and weapon buffs until you get Lightning Arrow.

>>175445916

it's for getting your dark blade to max strength for your crucifix

>>175445698
Bandai Namco probably gave from a "More Bonfires or Add Lifegems" ultimatum with DS3.

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Am I still range banned Hiro? I just want to play with dsg.

>>175445951
That's pretty much what I do, but it just feels like those attunement and faith points are wasted in bosses because there's no time to re-buff midfight and the buffs themselves aren't that impactful.

>>175445916
Crucifix? Also, it should be useful for co-oping Midir. Projected heal is also ridiculously good.

>>175445862
>They are so slow that even magic can out pace them
Maybe if the Greathammer user forgot to ever touch his roll button.

>>175445856
I wrote throwback and I meant to imply they are straight up characters from DS1. If you go to any wiki and just check up DS3 npc's you can see them listed.

>>175446001
I'll be your friend if you will be mine? I could always use friends. Don't be offput by my brash attitude. I was bullied a lot in highschool, and being mean is my armor.

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>parry spammers

>>175446015
Well you buff once at the beginning of the fight, but it's honestly a waste to re-buff mid fight. If you really need to re-buff, resin is faster and will get you punished less. But keep on trying anon, I believe in you.

Am I imagining things, or is there more than one quasi-Lucy in the thread now?

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>>175446131
>roll spammers

>>175446149
There's multiples of us. Our love is too strong to keep locked to one of us. We put up a wall to shield us from possibly getting hurt, but the wall is breaking down. Our love will warm the whole of /dsg/. I hope to make friends with you guys all!

>>175446149
I never really learned to be accomplish things so I just started faking it so that strangers will accept me.

>>175445916
Same. I could never choose between 40 or 60FTH. Former lets me do more melee damage, but latter would make my buffs stronger.

>>175446065
>>175446227
So which Lucy Senpai am I becoming friend of?
Also IDK one of you already helped me a while back on PS4 General with my PS+ thingy.

>>175446251
This is probably why I love dark souls, because the sense of accomplishment I get from it replaces what I didn't get when younger.

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>>175446172
>Movement spammers

>>175445862
Don't you talk shit about my fucking axe you nerd

>>175445570
BB is super good, but I'm not giving money to Sony to play it again.

>>175446131
I tend to just cast black flame twice when I notice them fishing. Melee weapon in the main hand and a parting flame in the off hand. The become very timid about fishing.

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>>175446342
>straight sword R1 spammers

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>>175446330
It's all love anon. The problem is I traded in my playstation, so I can't do PSN. But don't worry, i'm moving to the computer master race! I am buying a macbook tomorrow!

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>>175446447
>gesture spammers

>>175438409
I have over 500+ hours and I've ran into maybe 15 cheaters over time, 6 of them being inflated stat fags.

if you steam block cheaters it causes invasions from you to them or them to you to fail majority of the time, you also can still beat stat fags, they're extremely easy to beat at low levels for some reason maybe the game downscales them still?

I do wish we had some form of watchdogs though, it's funny how we could police cheating better than fromsoft, that way more innocent CE features like increased body sliders, insta character creation etc can be used without a ban, whenever I revisit DS1 I can play for 90 hours over a 1-2 month period and literally only run into 3 cheaters, which prompty get kicked with watchdog F1.

I've never encountered a single cheater in PC DS2 sotf but it seems the pvp population isnt to active on that at least in the lower soul memory brackets I rarely get invaded.

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>>175446131
>attack spammers