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/shmupg/ - Shoot 'em Up General

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Girls n Choppers Edition

This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Previous thread: >>174941082

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>RECENT RELEASES:

Dangun Feveron M2 port
Somewhere on PSN

Bullet Soul
http://store.steampowered.com/app/544580/

Ghost Blade HD
http://store.steampowered.com/app/577910/

Zangeki Warp
http://store.steampowered.com/app/564040/

Caladrius Blaze
http://store.steampowered.com/app/386770/

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464450/

RefRain
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435970/

Shmups Skill Test
http://store.steampowered.com/app/430290/

WITCH-BOT MEGLILO:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/437020/

Blue Revolver
http://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/

Danmaku Unlimited 3
http://store.steampowered.com/app/450950/

>UPCOMING RELEASES:
Pawarumi
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=812914421

Graze Counter
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=899022724

Ketsui M2 port
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/m2-announces-ketsui-m2-shottriggers-release-feveron-school

Xydonia
http://www.indiedb.com/games/xydonia

iMalice
http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

Go Go Burunyanman Ecstasy!!! Steam-Edition
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660224194

Other links
/shmupg/ community YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA

STG stream aggregator: https://stgrillz.appspot.com/

/shmupg/ high-score list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0DesawgMQiFNMv2MZxxwdjzBudCIMMb3BkjQJaHjxI/edit?usp=sharing
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First for best waifu from Astebreed
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CCWI is perfect
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>Ketsui
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>>175398997
Astebreed is actually pretty damn well made. The gameplay looks a bit unfun though. It's so frantic.
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>>175399201
>Garegga
>Dangun
>now Ketsui
PCFATS AND ARKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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Rest in piece STG
Rest in piece Degica
Rest in piece CAVE
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>>175400015
but.. poowarumi
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>>175399762
Senko no Ronde 2 >>>>>> old games everyone can emulate
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>>175399705
flash over substance

i like ether vapor more
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>>175400823
>b-but muh senko no ronde
Stay mad.
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>>175400823
I'm completely hyped about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mech fighters>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shmups

This is the 2017 GOTY right here, folks.
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>>175400830
Yea i also bought ether vapor over astebreed

>>175401224
Kai, pls
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>>175399705
It's like a less fun Alltynex Second but with shinier graphics and waifus
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>Mushihimesama is one of CAVE's easiest games... if you think it is hard, maybe you should go and play Tetris or something instead of SHMUPs.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/377860/discussions/0/1319961868325070567/
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>>175402280
he's so stupid telling people to play games harder than shmups
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>>175402280
>furfag
さすがwwwwwwwwwww
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>>175402280
THE LIST disagrees
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>>175399705
>>175401624
Astebreed has way more diverse mechanics than Alltynex 2nd, though Alltynex 2nd has more polished design in the end.

Astebreed has a bunch of issues like a health system, which tries to balance out how unreliable dash would be without health, and how freaking fast enemies are.
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>>175400823
>emulation
>being legit
>EVER
LMAO
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Can you even score in Shit no rondo? I watched xaerock's stream and it looked like a total clusterfuck.
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>>175405094
its a versus game numbnuts
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>>175405094
It's a fighting game, 2 - 0 is a good score.
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>mfw
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>>175405283
Are there flawless victory multipliers?
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>>175405283
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>>175399762
I'll have to get a Playstation at some point for Ratchet & Clank series
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>>175405794
rev up those petitions
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>>175405794
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>>175408480
b-but touhou
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>>>/v/
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I thought it was a meme but Type-Z really is a lot easier.
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>>175412445
Type-Z just has better stats
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>>175406365
>non-PS2 Ratchet & Clank
No fucking thanks.
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Fuck Gradius III

Good night
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i think my problem is i can't focus on one game
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>>175414845
i think your problem is that you fucking suck and lack talent
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>>175337721
>>175391217
Who the hell makes a spin-off of someone else's obscure dead game? Anyway that visual novel better have super funky disco bgm.
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>>175415967
even stranger, it's supposed to teach you how to play dangun feveron
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My god, no missing Real Battle Phase 1 in Raiden Fighters Jet is easily the hardest part of a TLB run. You cannot fuck up there or else you are basically locked out of the true final boss.
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>>175412970
Tools of destruction was pretty great desu
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>>175419387
A fun game to be sure, probably the best of the post-PS2 games but it's kinda shit in comparison anyway and it's the start of the downfall. It started the super-serious "Ratchet is the chosen last survivor of his species" storyline pulled straight out of Insomniac's awful, retconning writers' arses and ruined Ratchet's design too.
The music is boring, and the dialogue isn't funny anymore either.
The guns are fun but a lot of them lack punch.

It's a good game but unlike with the PS2 games I will never go back to ToD and later ones.
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>>175412970
>>175420310
>probably the best of the post-PS2 games
Lmao, it's universally agreed that ToD is the worst of the post PS2 games

This seems like a case of "these games were epic when I was 12, now I hate the new ones!"
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>>175420310
>>175422737
A crack in time was definitely worse than ToD, and the two that have come out after are basically a commision and a commercial for a movie so i doubt theyre much if any better
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Last bahmpu before bed~

Way too many things to do tomorrow and I need to start early. Keep flying, /shmupg/
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>>175412445
even though i use only type z, i have to admit it's hilariously OP in original arcade, it just tears through bosses, you will not see some boss patterns at all and you can nearly entirely skip patterns you don't like if you time your brakes right, like that wheel pattern of boss 3 or early patterns of boss 4.
>>175414845
i recently played random shmups in mame for 1 credit and it only made me want to come back to what i already played for some time. they all seem like the same game iwth a different coat of paint you shoot and dodge, boring, that is until you've spend some time with one game, then it gets better.
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is under defeat any good

also I think I might switch from stick to keyboard, keyboard is much better for shoot em ups imo, but stick is better for muh fighting games
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>>175427673
don't forget to get a keyboard for your dreamcast. jk i know you'll just emalute, but i wonder if anyone here plays console shmups with keyboard.
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>>175428248
There's also the PS3 port.
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>>175428248
under defeat got an hd remaster for ps3 and 360
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>>175429491
PC when?
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>>175427673
Under Defeat HD is one of the best shmups ever, imo.
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>>175433408
>>175399201
>>175399762
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>>175427673
>is under defeat any good
absolutely yes, i had the dcst port and it's sublime plus gorgeous even impressive to normie friends.
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>>175435048
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why stage 4 in ccwi is easier than stage 3, the boss is easier too, what were they thinking?
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>>175439678
stage 3 is kind of meme
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Considering this place is basically /v/ can we finally post traps?
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>>175441301
Like what, Espagaluda?
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>>175441438
cream
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>>175442291
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>>175442291
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>>175441229
i always spot cream posts, i admire his playful internet sociopathy though.
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Is Dangun Feveron the best game for sickos?
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>>175442846
Its ok bro; open wide
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>>175442991
no thank you cream, i think you've eaten enough for one day.
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>>175443289
i'm talking about you, silly boy *thunk*
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>>175443289
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>>175442927
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>>175443985
t. mad dad?
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>>175443448
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What's the consensus on Blue Revolver? Should I get it when it's on sale?
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>>175449712
Wait a bit until it gets an update probably
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>>175422737
With the exception of R&C1 I played all of them when I was in my late teens. Has nothing to do with nostalgia.

If ToD is the worst, then which is better? Quest for Booty sure as fuck isn't.

>>175424458
A lot of people say that A Crack in Time is the best one, but I didn't really get that feeling at all; it's the most boring and linear of them all, I think. I'd almost say that the best parts of it were the planets you could go on and platform on.

And Nexus is ok but short and 30 FPS doesn't do it any favours either. Felt like a really pointless game honestly.
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>>175442927
No, that's Deathsmiles.
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>>175450018
3d platformers are garbage for kids
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>>175450189
funny, so are shmups
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>>175450893
wrong, it's for teenagers, after all you have to be old enough for parents to give you pocket money and let you spend them in a gloomy arcade. 3d platformers are a genre born on the consoles and pretty much exclusive to them, it's made for literal console babies, as a result these games take no skill whatsoever to play, it's a fucking disgrace to even mention them in a shmup thread. btw reported.
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Kraut chimping out again
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>>175455768
Didn't post since yesterday, retard. I'm working on my game.
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why is it called no miss instead of no hit?
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>>175457910
Because only the best players get a waifu

no miss = no waifu
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>>175457910
shield
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>>175459009
no miss - not loosing a life, no hit - not getting hit at all(if there is shield or healthbar)?
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>>175452208
Hey man, you ever played R&C? The PS2 games can be pretty shmup-esque affairs.
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>>175457910
no miss = no mistakes
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>>175459589
*reports u*
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>>175459931
Don't do it!
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>>175449896
danbo claims he is putting all the shit in that was supposed to be there months ago https://twitter.com/__danbo/status/855931000752418817
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What Ketsui would u fug
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>>175470271
are you HYPED for the new goma stuff?
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>>175470343
What kind of stuff would that be? I haven't really paid attention. I heard about a Rozen Maiden collab and that there was one other (anime?) collab, but never found out what it was.

I did pop back in yesterday to get Loloi as a familiar, but it looks like he's being given out as a login bonus today, so I guess it works either way.
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>>175470572
https://youtu.be/2AE2PPabd7s?t=5h29m32s
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>>175460060
too late kid, you got on my wrong side
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>>175470887
Hmm. Not really, then. I don't know what that is. I'll probably just continue to pop in every day just for the login bonuses and stuff, maybe playing a stage or two if there's an easy prize to be had, and bide my time until it comes out with something that really catches my interest.

Last year I got my wish for swimsuit Deathsmiles, so perhaps this year we can get my next wish pajama Deathsmiles

And for the record, it is possible that I could get hyped for things that aren't Deathsmiles. There was a Rosalie event a couple of months ago that I put effort into.
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>>175449709
is that her dog?
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>>175399201
>mfw PCuck
>mfw able to play ketsui on cab
>mfw able to buy it for my ps3 at any time
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wtf is the point of this? and what's the deal with that buldge?
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>>175474846
So is the games actual 'intended' name "Dance On, Fever On" (dance fever ON!) and then the resultant transformation of that into engrish became Dangon Feveron?
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>mfw pc only
>mfw i don't like ketsui
>mfw m2 getting ketsui rules it out for pc, leaving room for other better cave games
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no matter, genre is dead
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>>175475194
>mfw m2 will get LITERALLY every cave game eventually
>mfw degica will be porting more broken poojin kusoge while m2 makes LITERALLY perfect ports for ps4
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Stage 4 boss of Crimson Colon Poo Ignition is impossible.
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>>175476137
don't try to dodge shit, you need routing
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>>175476258
game is all about micrododging
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>>175476326
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>>175476258
You can't route with this much RNG.
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>>175476258
He needs rank control. Suicide moar.
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>>175476258
It's the complete opposite for DOJ though, somehow.
t. german retard
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Fuck this shit. Adding a pre fire animation to my homing lasers is just way too complicated. Should just forget about this and move on the next thing.
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>>175477974
t. butthurt asshole

Of course you need routing in DOJ too, but the micrododging in it is much harder than in CCWI for example.
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>>175459929
I wish I could make no mistakes.
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>>175478312
>the micrododging in it is much harder than in CCWI for example.
This is pretty funny, I was just about to make a post replying to >>175476326 about how micrododging is too fucking hard in CC because no matter what ship you're using even the smallest input causes you to move an entire kilometer. It's not as bad with Type-Z though, which I guess is just another reason to use it exclusively.
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>>175478312
>but the micrododging in it is much harder than in CCWI for example.
bullshit
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>>175479291
>because no matter what ship you're using even the smallest input causes you to move an entire kilometer.
THIS is the fucking problem. Even the slightest tap sends you way farther than you should go, and the game is absolutely filled with situations where you are required to tap dodge in tiny places.
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>>175478173
Do it for the sexy laser animations, anon!
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>>175479291
Micrododging in CCWI original becomes easy peasy if you have good routing, except for the TLB.

In DOJ however, the devs want constantly want you to micrododge, no matter of your routes.
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>>175479610
>In DOJ however, the devs want constantly want you to micrododge, no matter of your routes.
Not really, I'd argue that you're expected to do broad directional dodges for a vast majority of the game.
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>>175479453
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>>175479453
You need good focus/lock-on movement management in the game.
At best you always have focus on, except you need to be fast.
If you need to micrododge, start with focus, and then release as soon as you see the gap.
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>>175479610
these games not about dot dodging
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>>175479894
sweet micrododging! just like the entire game!
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>>175479887
For a vast majority of the game you are not dodging at all. Which is the case for every shmup.

However, in DOJ you much more often need to micrododge than in CCWI for example. And when you need to micrododge, then the gaps are tiny. In CCWI the gaps are much bigger, except in Unlimited perhaps.
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>>175479894
These gaps are so HUGE!
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>>175480058
Of course they are. Especially cave games are about this.
CCWI is more like a Raizing game on original.
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>>175480345
Correct. They are fucking huge. The guy in the webm just had horrible routing.
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>>175480238
Yeah, I see what you mean now.
Still though, trying to deal with micrododging Crimson Heart's patterns is a pain, there's nothing worse than slamming sideways into a bullet.
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>>175479556
I would, but it's too hard for me. I don't know how to do this with my current homing laser scripts.
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>>175480000
Even with focus on, the control in this game is atrocious.
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>>175480680
The TLB is still a pain, yes, but the rest of the game is pretty tame when it comes to micrododging.
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>>175480696
Sounds like you are just shit and blame it on the game.
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>>175480824
stop talking, you did not clear ccwi original
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>>175480962
Post your type I clear.
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>>175481020
I think you rather should stop talking. You have no idea about the game.
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>>175481163
I have better things to post than just a shitty clear.
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>>175481331
Oh, you don't have one? Why didn't you just say so.
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>>175481484
Why would it matter if I have one or not?
What really matters are the scores.
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>>175481591
>excuses
Lmao no. Have a pity (You)
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>>175481591
>What really matters are the scores.
This, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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>>175481849
>he plays for survival
>not for score
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>I can only clear stage 1, but I have a really high score guys!
These people unironically think they have any knowledge of the game.
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Kraut vs. Cee vs. Cream vs. Gus, battle royale. who wins?
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everyone knows, kraut copied strats
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>>175482242
>who wins?
We do.
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Do NOT die!
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>>175474846
Is that a statue of IKD?
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fuck m2
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>>175479610
DOJ is more about routing and macro"dodging"
If you have to go through the gapes you play the wrong way
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>>175486721
complete bullshit
there are no routes to avoid micrododging in this game

its not a big secret that cave is very much about micro dodging compared to other games
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>>175487016
just like ccwi, which is a cave knockoff
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>>175487418
ccwi is a mix out of many games
you just have no idea about stgs
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>>175487768
Fact is that there are few games closer to cave's style than ccwi and soukyugurentais lock on doesn't change that
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>>175488410
Battle Traverse is much closer to cave style, since it's full of micro dodging.
CCWI original does not have much micro dodging.
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https://www.twitch.tv stgweekly
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>>175491320
>console shit
no thanks
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>>175489808
>CCWI original does not have much micro dodging.
ebin meme senpai
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I don't know what to play...
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>>175495009
roll the dice
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>>175491320
Why are frogs always sounding like they are slurping on a snail?
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>Hipster E-Peen Weekly
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>>175491584
compile one of the best shmups dev, bitch
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>>175499845
RIP.
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>>175499845
literally why do people hold this meme opinion
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>>175500962
dads
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>>175491320
why i can't change quality
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>>175481591
scores are worth NOTHING if they aren't accompanied by a clear dingus
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Anyone got a working Fixeight rom? None of the ones I tried were recognized by MAME.
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>>175502112
leaderboards disagree with you
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>>175502798
jap score keeping overlords disagree with dipshit port programmers
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twitch tv draconicimpulse

He just went live with Dangun Feveron
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>>175506289
Laggy af
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>>175487016
you don't know anything about DOJ, dumbass
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>>175507745
You don't know anything. Everyone knows cave is about micrododging. And DOJ is arguably their hardest game.

Of course you can make things easier with good routing, but there still will umpteens of parts where you have to do really tight micrododging.
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>>175506289
>>175507556
He has fixed the lag issue. Stream is back on~
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>implying you can't macro everything in doj with some practice
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>>175508489
Show me your replay without micrododging, or stfu.
Any fucking replay of the game, no matter if kusoplay or high score run or in between is full of micrododging.
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>PS4
Guess I need to scrape up 300 bucks.
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>>175509015
>Show me your
show me your type 1 clear or stfu
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>>175510215
What is even your fucking problem? Do you seriously have nothing better to do than just pestering me here on an imageboard? Get a fucking life you fucking retard.
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didn't kraut 1cc with type 1 anyway
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>>175511345
No, he didn't as far as I know.
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>>175509191
don't forget another $200 for an arcade stick goy
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I always wanted a thing called tuna sashimi.
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>>175510369
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>>175515008
I want to see some sour cream honestly
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>>175515693
I never know which one of these retards is Cream
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>>175515008
LOL!
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stop bullying kraut
he tries harder than any of you
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>>175516019
Guilty as charged, y'all
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>>175516937
t kraut
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>>175517074
can I do you in the ass while you 2-all a shitty psikyo game
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>>175516937
More like try-hard
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>>175518676
I have standards, you slut. Only raiden boys allowed :3
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>>175518676
Pic with sign + best score, then we'll talk.
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>>175518676
define "shitty psikyo game"
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>>175519469
turbo force
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Hi /shmupg/
I was wondering, what are you doing when you doesn't seem to improve anymore on a game?
It's annoying 'cause I know where my mistakes are but I always fail to avoid them (more like the game always manage to trap me). Any advice?
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>>175519863
Put on audiobooks or podcasts while playing so you hate yourself less
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From the gospel of the enlightened " full shmupper"
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>>175519469
any and all of them
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>>175520623
why would you say this before doing someone in the ass :(
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>>175521159
because your tears turn me on
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>>175507556
There was a problem with OBS. Still have no idea what happened, but resetting everything fixed it.

Too bad I still suck ass.
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>>175519863
take a break
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>>175521508
wow, whack me harder!
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>>175521718
who wants to bet on samefag
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>>175521853
I'm as real as they come
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>>175521974
dicks or it didn't happen
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>>175522769
One dick just for you c:
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>>175520269
Woaaah, what a crazy badass! So edgy! Did he really say that?? Unbelievable! Internet toughness: 10342% [ERROR]
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What's going on, /shmupg/?
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>>175523310
we've got an attention whore infestation, harry
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>>175520269
who?
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Thought I clicked on the poohou general for a sec
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>>175523649
the 1.01 fu "wr" holder
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Does anyone have pics of cream and where I can talk to her?
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>>175524393
DM me for nudes
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>>175524393
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>>175524393
>her
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>>175524393
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>>175523589
I see... for a second there, it sounded like we were a stone's throw away from ERP. I was starting to get worried, /shmupg/. But it's time to get back to shmups now, right?

... Right?
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>>175525398
>worried.jpg
Bordsteinschwalbe
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>>175523310
I'm feeling pretty shitty, and it's affecting how I'm playing tonight.

I just wish it would all end desu.
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>>175524393
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Here is some quality shmup gameplay: https://youtu.be/uhMTi9WArFM?t=7m14s
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>>175525398
>But it's time to get back to shmups now, right?
Great idea Harry!

I think it is ERP
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>>175526232
Lmao this guy just hacks invincibility for everything and barely knows what he's talking about.
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>>175526232
GUS BTFO!!!!!
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>>175525515
I don't know what that means.

>>175525572
Take a break and listen to music! Or play a game that you're probably not going to fuck up at. Or maybe something you used to play as a kid that you haven't touched in 10 years. That might be fun.

>>175526407
Oops, I still can't stream. Oh la-ti-da, guess we'll have to go with the ERP!

Or talk about shmups. I can do that. Talking about shmups. Fun fact: In Deathsmiles, the big ogre in the middle part of the Swamp Wastes stage (B-2), with Death Mode activated, constantly spawns a stream of suicide bullets at you for some reason, pausing when he goes to shoot his regular bullets. I don't know why he does this, and he seems to be the only enemy in the game to do so! How strange, how strange.
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>>175528137
>Or talk about shmups.
Have you given up on the canyon?
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>>175450098
How so? Isn't that for pedos?
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>>175529002
I'll never give up! But I do take really long breaks sometimes. I'll get back to it eventually, and when I do, I'll probably make improvements for a while and then take another break. That's how it's been going for me 'n Casper for over five years now. Slowly, steadily.
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What are the best shmupgs on android?
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>>175530827
i don't like to play on android, but danmaku unlimited 2 is fun.3 should be released sometime soon.
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Each ship having a different movement speed... is this really a thing that you enjoy as a player? Or would you rather be able to just pick the ship you like best because of it's shot type and not have to worry about if it is the slowest or 'too fast' for micrododging?
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>>175533064
I enjoy it, it adds more purpose to ship selection than just what their shot is. I also think it's important that you do a lot of playtesting to determine a range of good focused/unfocused speed values for your game, that way you don't end up with ships nobody ever uses because they're either too fast for micrododges or too slow for macrododges.
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>>175533064
some game has it so you can just select the movement speed at the start
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I've been digging around in CCWI's data archive after finding the decryption key and came across a version of the TLB theme with an intro that I've never heard before.
https://a.safe.moe/y64zm.mp3
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>>175530827
Gothic wa Mahou Otome is fun if you like cute girls. It's okay in short bursts but you'd probably have to enjoy the cute girls aspect of it to get much enjoyment. It's a gacha game. It's only in Japanese but there's, like, a full English guide available online.

Otherwise I guess there's Dodonpachi Unlimited. I... haven't heard bad things about it, at least.
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>>175537648
I actually really wanted to try this but I have an iphone. Makes me a bit sad
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>>175530585
>over five years
tfw been playing crimzon clover since 2011
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>>175535157
please share the other files
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>>175459929
shouldn't it be no mis then
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>>175538282
It's still possible for you to get it but I don't know how it works personally. Here's the video tutorial linked in the English guide on how to get Japanese-only games on an iOS device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMDG5KC4yqc

That's about the best I can offer. Otherwise maybe you could join the Gomaotsu group on Steam and ask for help there or something. Takes all languages.

>>175538806
I got Deathsmiles on New Year's Eve 2011. About 7 months later, I bought my arcade stick and just kept playing on and off over the years. It has to be the only 360 game I own that has such longevity for me.
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>>175538983
Sure thing, I've got the data from Battle Traverse as well if anyone's interested in that.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6jkuenr2ubqtf6m/ccwi_data.rar
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>>175519863
if you played for less than 100 hours there is still a lot of room for improvement, so just keep going. if you played a lot, then take a break.
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>>175539836
i've seen a replay with bgm from garegga, how hard do you think it is to replace music in ccwi?
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>>175541174
It depends, swapping the music in is probably as simple as replacing files in the dump and writing a repacking tool for the data archive format. Getting it to play properly would take a bit more work, though, the loop offsets are probably stored somewhere in the game's executable, so you'd have to use a debugger to go through the program's assembly and find where those offsets are stored and used.
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>>175540145
>implying most of the work isn't after the 100 hour mark
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>>175542828
it depends on the game and your goal, i don't imply anything, just don't want him to give up too fast.
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>>175538282
>I actually really wanted to try this but I have an iphone. Makes me a bit sad
I think the Japanese mainly playing on it
http://www.cave.co.jp/sp/mahouotome/
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>>175520269
wow that's some 12 yr old edge lord wordsmith right there.

>>175524393
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>>175539836
>I've got the data from Battle Traverse as well if anyone's interested in that.
if it means i can get mp3 of stage 3 music then yes please.
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>>175539836
Awesome stuff anon! Will use some of this in my game as placeholders.
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>>175545973
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>>175547340
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>>175521709
>>175540145
Guess I'll go for a little break.

I'm not at 100 hours yet for sure, probably something between 10 and 20. But there's just so much enemies and bullet coming and I'm not good enough to manage what come from both my front and behind.
I can survive about 20 seconds per life.
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>>175549128
wat game?
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>>175402280
>furfag avatar
>profile set to private

Yep, another waste of life with pathological honesty issues detected.
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>>175549128
10-20 is nothing
>I can survive about 20 seconds per life.
are you credit feeding? it's not a good way to practice, unless you are credit feeding at the real arcade where money loss risk will make you play better and improve fast. imo if there is no risk of loosing there is no improvement, play for 1 credit for now, when you can get to late levels start using save-stating/practice mode, though that's optional some people just do runs. i do like 1 run per day, 80% of the time i practice each stage/boss separately.
also wut gaem, it's probably to early for you to play stuff like garegga.
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>>175549486
fantasy zone
>>175550481
It's fantasy zone so it is 1-credit only but you can buy lives/upgrades with the money got by killing enemies.
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>>175550627
old games are really unforgiving even if they look simple, this one has a full ship hitbox for example.
i tried it for a couple credits, got only to level 2, 10-20 hours is how much it would take to just get used to the game, so don't feel bad and keep practicing after a break. also, might want to try console ports, they are probably easier.
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>>175551662
To be honest, the hardest isn't the hit box but the fact that you are always moving and the enemies coming from both side.
Also I'm playing on 3ds, not easier (well you can keep money from previous game but I don't use it) but you can save a video of a game.
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>>175551662
i tried super fantazy zone on mega drive and it def seems like a preferable version, same game but better, you can even enable auto in options, though it's still hard.
shmups(and arcade games in general) until late 80s were often just prototypes for better games.
>>175553075
>the fact that you are always moving and the enemies coming from both side.
that's like the very point of these arena-like shmups, play more traditional shmups if you don't like it.
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>>175535157
doujin ver has this song
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>>175553178
I love fantasy zone and it's gameplay, it's just that when you're surrounded it will backfire
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>>175520269
Where did he even post that?
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>>175530571
Well aren't pedos sickos too?
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>>175546087
Sorry, I went to sleep, here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/37dlvdnp4bs5f1b/bt_data.rar

>>175553594
Where, though? I've beaten the doujin version and never heard it.
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>>175560338
thanks fine sir
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>>175545973
that's a man, baby

>>175549839
furfags are worse than pedophiles
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>>175561821
t. pedophile
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>>175561821
>furfags are worse than pedophiles
I dunno much about furfags, but Smraedis seems to be an okay guy. + he's good at shmups

>>175545973
She looks Indian/Paki
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>>175564342
cringed so hard i now have facial paralysis
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faggots
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What's worth buying on Steam?
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>>175570445
garegga, feveron, ketsui soon
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>>175570445
astro port collection and ccwi
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>>175570445
Ikaruga, CCWI, Astro Port games, Raiden III+IV
Apart from this, also Alltynex 2nd trilogy, Ether Vapor and perhaps some Cave game.
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>astro port
is this a meme around here? lmao
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>>175571389
kys
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>>175571562
i would if i were unironically shilling astro turd games
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>>175570445
saviors
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>>175570445
DoDonPachi Resurrection, Deathsmiles, Mushihimesama
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>>175573558
cavedrone gtfo
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>>175571075
This

>some Cave game
Pooshihimesama

>>175571389
Satazius, Wolflame and Zangeki Warp are really good games. Meglilo is also good
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>>175573782
post ur type 1 clear :^)
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>>175573558
bit old to be doing the vidya fanboy routine wouldn't you say? fucking loser.
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>>175574863
are you paranoid or something?
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>>175570485
NEVER EVER
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lol, pazzy btfo

https://www.reddit.com/r/shmups/comments/52o8en/crimzon_clover_world_ignition_review/
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>>175575894
Lmao. I'm all about that stick life myself, but there are enough accomplished keyboard players out there for everyone to realize it's aight.
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>>175572000
at least i have some form of income, unlike you
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is kraut a neet?
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Mahou Otome finally lets you choose which version of a familiar to display when choosing an avatar/waifu. I've been wanting to be able to do that for like a year and a half now.
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>tfw indecisive
>tfw can't decide on a shmup i want to go full autism on with my neet life
i've gone through the games in the shmupmame pack multiple times, and have tried the ones on steam. so far the ones that clicked were ccwi, guwange (wasn't really a fan of a lot of the cave ones aside from this and doj), and gunbird2

someone help i'm retarded and if i try to play more than 1 i'll crumble because i'm already ass. i guess i really just want one to get good at so i can actually have some semblance of ability playing shmups
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>>175583938
i chose ccwi as a main game, it was developer's intention to make the ultimate stg. plus it has online leaderboards and is not emulation. and nothing comes close to my playtime in it, maybe just main whichever you've played most.
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>>175583938
Sounds like you're forcing yourself desu
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>>175584838
yea ccwi gameplay is really addictive, just wish it wasn't kinda ugly

>>175585709
maybe, i just kinda want to focus on one game but like them all equally for different reasons. kind of ruling out gunbird though. probably ccwi though, game is too much fun even for a garbage player like me
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>>175585963
How much have you played them so far? Just play them all without worrying too much about achievements and you should naturally stick to the one you like the most.
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>>175585963
>CCWI
>ugly
u wot m8

For a doujin shmup it looks absolutely stunning. It looks professional-quality.
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>>175586172
ccwi like 10hours so far, the other 2 about 3-4 each. i think i'll just stick with ccwi since i find myself just practicing stages to actually get better a lot now.

>>175586669
im a /vr/ autist please forgive. i just get turned on by blocky ass pixels
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>>175581691
>purple Windia
delete this immediately!
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>>175589308
Maybe she wanted to look more like Patchouli.
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It's really impressive how skilled of an artist Yotsubane is. It's like he is a professional.
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>>175586669
it's ugly as fuck you turnip, just layers of shiny plastic looking shite.
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>>175585963
Me too. The game play is good but the graphics, sound, and ship speed is so bad.
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>>175590052
Those handcrafted sprites look worlds better than most shmups and especially caveshit desu.
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>>175590409
It looks like ass, especially when compared to CAVE. We get it, you like the game. It's not perfect, get over it.
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>>175590409
>Those handcrafted sprites
Most of the graphics in CCWI is a prerender
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>>175590721
>It looks like ass
It's one of the best looking shooters ever.
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>>175590895
maybe if you are blind, shit looks barely better than danmaku unlimited
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>>175590860
Are they? If they are it's much less obvious than with caveshit to say the least.

>>175590721
I don't like CCWI that much. It's far from perfect. But it looks great, especially for a doujin game.
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>>175591195
>Are they? If they are it's much less obvious than with caveshit to say the least.
fuck off troll, ccwi is uglier than your pig cunt mother.
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>>175591192
desu DU3 looks better
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CCWI would look fine if the colours weren't so ugly
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>>175591760
Just fuck off you utterly retarded little faggot.
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>>175592102
The bullets look off too, as if they were pasted on top of everything else.
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>>175592204
ccwi looks like aids, sounds like cancer and controls like shitty ass, it's good for a doujin...
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>>175593580
Wish you had aids and cancer, cunt.

just kidding that's a horrible thing to wish on someone!
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>>175594173
yeah you wish i had ass cancer for extra tight tumour ribbed pleasure hole ya fuckin queer shitter.
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just made it to stage 6 in eosd, its my first 2hu
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this guy just retarded hater
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how do I get better, /vg/
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>>175594673
pazzy?
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>>175594398
Sounds like projection, faggot.
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>>175594820
Nah it's the other dude, cream.

>>175594673
>how do I get better, /vg/
by playing another game that isn't just grind until rng lets you win..
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>>175576251
what makes you think i don't have a job you dunce
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>>175599842
collecting welfare cheques is hard work
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ship sprite and hitbox so weird and seems emulation totally broken
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>>175604584
maybe you need to not suck
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>>175604584
cute trucks
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>>175595246
>cream
>dude
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>>175602441
i wouldn't know. clearly you do.
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More gospel from the enlightened " full shmupper"
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>>175608778
No idea what he's talking about, but this is 'better' than his pseudo "twisted fuckin psychopath" edgelord shit which is just crigy
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Why is no one bumping

Harry, you've popped enough puyo's today
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>>175589308
>>175589583
Truly then they have good taste
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>>175614690
No I haven't! There are still puyos to pop and asses to kick or be kicked...

>>175616223
Too bad dying her hair purple won't make Windia any smarter! But it does make her look a little like that one girl from Espgaluda 2.
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>>175617252
Which Puyo game is the best?

I've had my eyes on Puyo Pop Fever because I saw it once in an LP and the music was good and it looked fun! I'll get it anyway, but it would be interesting to know which one to look out for.
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>>175617747
Not Harry but Puyo Puyo Tsu (PS1/Saturn) -> Puyo Puyo Tetris (PS3/PS4) -> Puyo Pop Fever (PS2)

>I've had my eyes on Puyo Pop Fever
Ye it's pretty good, especially if you're new to Puyo Puyo; you can get it for ~$7 on ebay.

If you have a PS4 or PS3 then just get PPT
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>>175617747
>2017
no reason to play anything but puyo tetris ya goof
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>>175608778
what Discord channel is this coming from? mind posting a link?
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>>175617747
It's hard to say what a best starting point for the series would be. Generally, I would say Puyo Puyo Tsu, Puyo Pop Fever, or Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary.

If you're set on buying them, the only ones in easy access for westerners are Puyo Pop Fever (Gamecube or DS) or Puyo Puyo Tsu (via Sega Classics Collection on 3DS). Otherwise you'd be looking at importing.

If you're going to emulate, then my recommendation would be either Puyo Pop Fever (Gamecube or DS, only play the GBA version if you really can't manage to emulate anything else) or Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary (DS version has an English fan-translation patch). Puyo Puyo Tsu is a good game but it's pretty tough, so I personally don't like recommending it as a starting point. If you're emulating though, no reason not to give it a shot I guess. SNES version has an English patch but it doesn't really matter.

From the sound of the /v/ threads, a lot of people are getting their first taste of Puyo Puyo through Puyo Tetris now that the Switch/PS4 version has been released in the west. It's a fair starting point I think, but the story mode yes I'm serious is a bit more enjoyable if you have past experience with some of the Puyo cast.

>>175619478
>Puyo Pop Fever (PS2)
I dunno if the PS2 is region-locked but the PS2 version of PPF was only released in Japan and Europe. Then again, if he's in Europe, I guess it's a moot point.
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>>175619960
Discord ruined /vg/.
It gave the circlejerker attentionwhore faggots that every general had ten times more power
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>>175620275
How so? I have very little experience with using /vg/ before Discord became a thing. Most of my experience came from /ksg/ and /srg/, one of which is terrible because of drama-mongering, the other for blogposting and derails.
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Reminder that Sakura has issues.
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And not just daddy issues either, although that's probably a big part of it.
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Post your Sengoku Aces 2-ALL's here! :^)
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>>175626793
why type of mental illness does one need to want to play psikyo games
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does trap have any real reason to know what the next m2 game is or is he memeing?
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>>175627536
one things for sure
if he knows what it is and is excited about it, it's guaranteed to be shit
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>>175627632
that's what i was thinking too. if trap likes it, it must be shit.
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>>175626896
Psikyosis
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>>175626896
gunbird 2 is good
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>tfw you can't into tapping diagonals

it's almost like I was born a retard who can't use their hands right
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>>175629675
Join the shitbox master race.
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>>175629383
lol good one anon
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Marion is cute.
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the players on stgweekly are...interesting
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>>175632526
are they really
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>>175632589
they don't get out much do they?
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Fucked off version of Gunbird (Mobile Light Force) 3.34usd on Steam at the moment. Worth it?
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>>175632695
Unless you like screen wobble and shitty aspect ratios, pass and emulate instead.
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>>175583938
I recommend CCWI, Original and Unlimited mode surely will take your rest of life.
Don't play any MAME games, you will end up with empty feeling
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>>175589987
I couldn't find the overall stages in the decrypted file, possibly it's auto generated in game?
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>>175590721
Do you mean the HD version CAVE? Because even Mushi and Deathsmiles original arcade graphic looks like ass in the Steam version.
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>>175608778
If he meant Gil from 2hu, he is a real GOD and Yuusuke is his descendant. Gus know nothing about 2hu scene, he should just shut up and play futanari.
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>>175635392
2hu scene is a joke neway
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Hello guys ! We did it ! Thank you so much for your support everyone. Now that this is done we're going to focus back on the game and start the closed beta program for our backers so expect a lot of activity from us on social networks and forums :)
We made some pretty nice changes to the gameplay recently and we can't wait to have your feedbacks !
Anyway we couldn't have done this without you. We hope to make a shooter that will leave a mark in the shmup history, even a little one and all of you will be a part of it !
Much love from the three of us ! Alex Daniel and Charles
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>>175636985
who needs m2 shittriggers when we got blue revolver and pawarumi
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>>175636985
おめでとう!
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>>175636985
Congrats! Now stop posting, this general is terrible enough without you whoring out your shit game.
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>>175620096
Which ones have online play?
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>>175634287
bullshit, ccwi will make you feel empty with it's plastic shit world looking like micro machines in space. Mame all the way.
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>>175632667
They all have weird voices and speak poorly to, i've heard more advanced vocabulary from dyslexic children.
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>>175627536
He knows but why? probably a gay dev at m2 he snapchats cock and butthole pics with in front of his nmk collection.
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>>175634859
>Because even Mushi and Deathsmiles original arcade graphic looks like ass in the Steam version.

Because you are forcing native 240p onto a hd lcd monitor you fucking melon. Run it on a 15khz crt to see how it should look.
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>>175639219
Puyo Puyo Tetris and Puyo Puyo Chronicle (a JP exclusive). Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (also JP exclusive) might but I dunno.

A free alternative for online play would be the Puyo Puyo VS 2 program. It has a server that you log into and can play with others online. It also has an offline mode for single-player practicing. You can also install cosmetic mods, like new backgrounds or characters.
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>>175639812
By that logic you can play CCWI too with crt monitor since it support low resolution.
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>>175626896
playing cave games is more degenerate 2bh
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>>175640048
fuck me you are clueless, you can but it's assets were designed with higher res in mind as it's birthplace was pc and even the low res mode is still double that of 240p (it's actually the same as dreamcasts vga output 640/480). Cave were made on original hardware with assets drawn for 240p output, its the only reason they HD modded them for the consoles/pc release in the first place to look non ass on hd tvs/monitors whilst being cab friendly for those that have them with the original release fucking mong.
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>>175640025
>A free alternative for online play would be the Puyo Puyo VS 2 program.
I might give this a go, would you be up for a match or 2 sometime then? if the netcode isn't to wank.
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Hi guys! Me and my team are working on top-down shooter ("shmup" as you like to say XD). It is inspired by classics but takes things further as we wanted to push the genre. Things you can expect:

>30 weapons to chose from each of them upgradeable
>procedurally generated levels and enemies hazards
>soundtrack has been described as "tasty" and "pumpin'"
>playership can chose between weapon or shield upgrades

We are currently working on our own kickstarter campaign. Be sure to show some support if you like high-quality shooters.

Thanks, Michael
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>>175646061
Whered this come from
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mame is cheating, your score illegal
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>>175646061
my vagina has been described as tasty and pumpin
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>>175640468
and? are you telling me by the combination of 240p and crt monitor the game will looks beautiful? it still looks like shit
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imagine if m2 ported something really good like thunder dragon 2 or zing zing zip!
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>>175627536
They bought fire lancer. Next m2 release is planned for the wonderswan because "muh monderswan culture"
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>>175654404
t. trap
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>>175654892
is everyone H Y P E for fire lancer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjTpAOlzHHY
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>>175655547
ugly
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>>175655547
>is everyone H Y P E for fire lancer?
Only trap.
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>>175652856
Looks amazing on a crt.
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>>175640596
Sure, sounds good.
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>>175662634
that's placebo
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>>175655547
>ship debris, explosions and enemy shots have almost identical shape and color
Why
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Up
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>>175665514
Because the dads won't like it if it is well designed.
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>>175663960
Literally not placebo. It's the antialiasing of the pixel art world
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>>175619478
>>175619806
>>175620096
As a matter of fact, I am European! I was looking to get the PS2 version of Puyo Pop Fever. (Interesting that there are so many versions but only the GC/DS ones were released in the US)

I guess the GC version would be the most optimal, since it supports 4P, without any adapter or stupid shit like that. But it's much more expensive and it's not like I'll ever get more than one other person tops to play it with me... ;_;

Although, I just noticed that there isn't a single seller that ships to where I live. I was wondering if it makes sense to buy it; I like the look of it so much I want to own it, but it doesn't seem possible so that's settled itself. I guess I'll emulate and later on see if I can get Puyo Tetris once I get a PS4.

It's exactly like Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, right? Or rather, IIRC that game was originally a Puyo game. These are some of the only puzzle games I like. It's just a bit more engaging than most and especially if the music is good, I'm in. Of course Tetris is among those that are fantastic as well, but that's a given.
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>>175632789
Not to mention you'd be supporting the heinous desecration of glorious arcade shmups by western publishers' hands.
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why does ccwi shit the bed if my monitor is set to portrait (in windows). i just want to play tate but hate having my desktop in landscape because when i alt tab out of ccwi its all fucking sideways ree
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>>175669220
>It's exactly like Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, right? Or rather, IIRC that game was originally a Puyo game.
Correct, and it is essentially the same in terms of core gameplay, but with tweaks since MBM that make it more balanced for multiplayer. MBM used 5 different color puyos, while nowadays the standard is to only have 4 colors at once. More importantly, the introduction of offsetting means that, if your opponent sets off a chain and starts launching garbage at you, you can set off a chain of your own before the garbage falls to lessen the amount, or outright cancel it altogether (and even return fire if your chain is longer than the opponent's was).

Fever takes this a step further with Fever Mode, but it's all still pretty easy to understand after playing it for a little while.

On a side note, Mahou Otome has a new daily mission system in the form of a bingo card. There are various simple objectives arranged on a 3x3 grid, and they get stamped as you complete them. You receive prizes based on how many bingos you get for the day. Some of them are nearly effortless, requiring you to do something like merely opening the guild screen or receiving EP from the dating screen, while others are simply for clearing a single stage on each difficulty. Getting 4 gems per day for a completed card seems like a good incentive.
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>>175669617
blog update: apparently turning v-sync on and off again fixed it. what the actual fuck
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>>175676163
poojin
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>mfw i finish ketsui with total of 3 deaths and 5 bombers
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if you pick up a new game, what is your process of learning it shmupg?
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>>175682546
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Wouldn't it be great if there was a no DRM port of Same! Same! Same! that ran on Linux?
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>>175689503
i'd prefer a port of a good game that runs on steam
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creams needs to shoot popcorn less if he's gonna beat strikers, especially at the bosses. Her friend sounds like a bill n ted movie.
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>>175690695
>he
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>>175690905
>>he
correct.
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You.

Yes, you. The one screaming, "There's anime girls!" and "The slowdown isn't fixed!" and other slurs I dare not mention.

Tread lightly.

You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority.

I don't feel awkward or anxious playing Deathsmiles around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful shmup that has been developed for us - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. We Deathsmiles fans may have our differences, but we will not hesitate to come to the aid of our fellow players, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.

Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.

I pity you.

I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that Deathsmiles is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful experience. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.

I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall Touhou, start up Deathsmiles, and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of the first stage, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.
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>>175691159
>playing shmups on PC
LMFAO!
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>>175691159
I quite enjoyed that.
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>>175685408
By banging my head against the walls.
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>>175691049
>>>he
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>>175695943
>>>>he
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>>175696348
everyone says this but no one proves it
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>>175696541
our posts should be enough proof! :]
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>>175696541
frenetic let it out on discord, he said in regards to trap15 "i like hanging out with gay hipsters ;)". Trap was dating cream so you figure it out.
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>>175696878
ok so it's just another meme, I'll keep that in mind
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>>175697082
trap's openly gay so.... Cream is 110% a man. See this old pic of him and observe the moustache.
>>175545973
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>>175564342
>Smraedis
Bit random, what do you know about him?
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>>175697605
You sure that's Cream? I've seen what she actually looks like. Trap has said himself that he's straight.
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>>175697908
>You sure that's Cream?
yes, it's old compare it with a more recent post meds pic it's clear.

>>175697908
>Trap has said himself that he's straight.
Yeah and i'm danny devito.
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>>175698738
>btw, did you ever take a look at the suicide rates?
The sad thing with this is they blame everything under the sun apart from their own pointless superficial choices.
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>>175698738
damn that ho in the image fucking owned those trannies lmao
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>>175698738
I've seen her irl, she looks like a girl to me and she definitely ain't 6'5"
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>>175700331
>I've seen >her irl
I'm so sorry.
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During the Golden Week sale on PSN
Cho Aniki Zero is 1.79usd
Mamorukun Curse! is 1.49usd (fun game)
Capcom Arcade Cabinet 1985-I is 3.99usd
Capcom Arcade Cabinet 1985-II is 3.99usd

along with the Soldner-X series, other shmups and many other games in general. Lots of great sales going on at the moment so now would be the time to jump on stuff if you can find it!
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>>175700929
What about Gayragga?
On the topic, is there a guide somewhere for how to set up, switch between, and buy games with a Japanese PSN account?
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>>175701218
Setting up account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA_xLJCBOzo

Adding funds to account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqS_l0aamnE

Didn't have time to look if Garegga was in the Golden Week sale though as I just have to take off right this moment. Sorry, anon. Sale lasts all week though so the answer will pop up probably today I am sure!
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>>175698738
>>175700350
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>>175702026
Thanks!
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I'm not regret
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>>175702026
can you not just buy shit with a credit card or paypal?
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Stop bullying futa
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Is trap15 15 years old, and a trap as he claims to be?
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I see that the shmup talk is really hot in here!
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Ikaruga turned out to be harder than I thought
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>>175704104
Japanese credit cards and paypals only for JPN accounts. The work around would be to attach a foreign card to a japanese paypal account and then attach said account to your JPN PSN (unless you can get a JPN credit card).

Or buy JPN cards on the aforementioned sites (Play-Asia, Ebay, Amazon, etc)
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>>175704830
Ika has perfect difficulty. Challenging, but not try-hard bullshit cave-style difficulty.
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>>175698738
>Does this make me Russell Wilson?
She's holding the wrong helmet.
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>>175704326
>tfw mom finds your poojin hentais
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redpill me on dangun
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>>175710404
it's fast
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>>175606214
>cream
>not a dude
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>>175710404
Use type-b bomb style or type-b roll style. Bomb is better for scoring, roll is better for survival, but both are better than lock.

Kill shit fast and don't die; the tlb is worth a lot of points.
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how does bombing affect score in ccwi?
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>>175715362
Negatively
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redpill me on bombing
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>>175715362
Depends. If it destroys your break route, you're fucked, but it can be recovered to some degree depending on where you bombed, boss bombs generally more recoverable if you have the option of an E item after.
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>>175704487
http://www.easy68k.com/QuickStart/TrapTasks.htm
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>>175716567
>>175715404
is it ever better to die than bomb in it?
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>>175717980
No, dying takes a bigger chunk of your break rate than bombing and still deletes your break gauge as badly as bombing does, and removes the stage clear no-miss bonus potential.
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i'm rereading the full extent of the jam, is this supposed to be a guide on how to kill all fun in shmups rather than high level scoring guide? ironically it will be most useful to 1cc collectors since it's is so focused on fast results.
he says you should start literally copying replays as soon as possible, but without experience in the game, you probably won't identify scoring mistakes in a replay, you'll just blindly copy good and bad. not to mention copying is not fun, grinding states most of your time is also not fun and fun is what is needed to get trully great scores, becouse fun keeps you going for much longer than e-peen alone.
for example, prometheus got WR in Guwange after 2 months of his super effective, try hard training, but he wasn't willing to play any longer, which allowed literally who britbong to grab WR, despite not using states and not copying, just playing the way it's fun to him.
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>>175720967
i don't get why people praise it so much desu
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>>175721524
becouse you can 1cc really fast this way or get a score high enough for farm to praise you and then ditch the game.
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>>175720967
why are you so sure that practicing isn't fun?
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>>175722030
i'm not talking about practice(as in whole stage/whole boss fight) but loading a state you've made 5-15 seconds ago over and over which is what he says you should be doing most of the time.
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>>175722287
what if that's fun
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>>175721723
i stopped reading as soon as he advocated using mame
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>>175722565
good for you then. some people find only 1cc runs to be fun, i find stage practice, the middle ground to be most fun. what i don't like is how heavily he shills it, above all you should do what keeps you playing.
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he's wrong on so many levels

>Because dodging skills are a big part of danmaku games
yea no, they really aren't at all
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>>175722717
MAME is fine but he argues that PCBs are bad becouse you spent money on them, if anything it will make you improve fast unless you want to loose money.
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Oh also Caladrius Blaze for the PS4 is on sale on PSN for 14.99usd at the moment!
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>tfw just found out that i have been using mame unknowingly for over 6 years
All my clears... all my scores... they're all worthless...
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>>175723247
this is the first step of recovery
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>>175722856
Dumbfuck, it's all about which game you play. Cave for example are made for tryhards that force you to micrododge hundreds of times.
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>>175723396
>Cave
if you're dodging, you're doing it wrong. it explains why you're so bad.
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>>175723494
Post your DOJ 2_ALL without micrododging or stfu, fucktard.
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>>175724030
post your type 1 clear or stfu
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>>175724030
>without micrododging
Why is this a qualifier? You and I both know the game has micrododging, as does Crimzon Clover and a fuck ton of other shmups. It doesn't fucking matter but you keep trying to make it so.
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>>175723494
>if you're dodging, you're doing it wrong
What else should I do, stand still and let the bullets hit me?
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I don't get it. Darius Twin is really easy and Super Nova seems really tough so far.

Did they forget they can't take your quarters with Super Nova and forgot to tone it down?
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>>175724801
that's not what he means. you should not react to bullets, but know what to do to avoid them with minimal risk. dodge without dodging.
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>>175725710
Then why not say it like that, such a stupid meme
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>>175725824
you're a stupid meme
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>>175732206
desu sniffers
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>>175723396
>Cave for example are made for tryhards that force you to micrododge hundreds of times.
This isn't true pram theft auto, pink sweets has no micro dodging, guwange has none for 95%, dangun feveron has hardly any, Ibara has little if you strat right, mushi 1/futari original are daioh style herding, espgaluda is only the bosses mostly and deathsmiles mbl 1.1 has mostly none to if you score properly so once again we find ourselves the crossroads of krauts failures.
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>everyone took the bait and thought i was the kraut
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>>175735867
Nice try kraut but I see through you.
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>>175735867
This is your new strat i know but it's pretty obvious.

>changes ip
>NO GUISE NOT ME I WAS BUSY PROGRAMMING DILDO LASERS RIGHT UP MY OWN ARSEHOLE.
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i was called cee by kraut and kraut by cee
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>>175734660
>once again we find ourselves the crossroads of krauts failures it wasnt even me who posted this but whatever
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>>175736679
he is right though

i barely post here anymore anyway

have better things to do than just constantly getting insulted by faggots here
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>>175738316
emo

>>175738096
oh you're the other retarded bong.
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A mobile shmup where tilting the screen effects bullet velocity and direction
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>Gradius V
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>>175740820
you called me scotsman, spic, american and now brit, keep going not many countries left.
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>>175741591
no i haven't, only brit.
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>>175741680
this is the first time you are calling me brit. sometimes i have good english, other days not so much.
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>>175741724
do not care.
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>>175741840
good becouse i said keep going.
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>>175741982
k, shut up germanglo spanglish italifrog swedong frarab shitter.

B.T.F.O
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autism
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>>175742118
not even close
pro tip: my country and it's supreme leader gets mentioned in news all the damn time
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>>175742340
NO ONE CARES. Fuck me not even blatant implication in the form of a hammer stamp on the forehead sinks in to you fucks.
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>>175742462
if no one cares why worry replying ? maybe real worry is you being wrong all the time.
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>>175742543
The vein hope that you'd comprehend a basic message and stfu but no please continue I mean you will anyway. Bother not worry btw.
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>>175742702
>Bother not worry btw.
it's a meme you dip.
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>>175742765
Oh my bad, i'm not upon all the teeny internet speak shame on me.
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Who wants to play some STGs?
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>>175742837
shitposting > stg
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>>175743346
>not making routes in your head while shitposting
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>>175742837
Got a Raiden III clear on easy mode.
Still gotta practice getting that last extend though.
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>>175743735
>on easy mode.
I preferred you more when you drew obscene pics of children.
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>>175743697
>not clearing the game in your head while shitposting
>not setting a new WR in your head while shitposting
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>>175743697
>not giving head whilst shitting
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>>175745078
Raiden is hard! T.T
Also quite annoying to practice, that's why I play easy modes first.
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>>175745157
>tfw multiple danmaku WR holder in my head
if mame is valid then this should be too
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>>175745282
Wait til you play raiden 2 and dx expert then, imagine if neo was the size of kevinddr and had no slowing down reality ability.
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>>175745358
it's at least as valid as mame

source: multiple wrs
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>>175748248
Thanks Cave!
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>>175748921
atleast you dont need to micrododge
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>>175743346
mech fighters >>>>>>>>>> shmups
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how do you get long timer for multiplier in ccwi?
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is the dragon in the ddp laser really there?
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>>175752404
for you
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how rank works in esprade? Should i ignore bonus items for keep rank low or it's all bullshit
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stop asking fucking question before i get mine answered!
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i need come back to ufo and clear it for no reasons
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I'm only a kusoplayer, after all.
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>>175752254
Enter breakmode while having a multiplier
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>>175754693
>>175752254
Especially when there are many bullets on screen
The more bullets you cancel while entering break, the bigger your time becomes
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i noticed, canceling red bullets give more time for multiplier
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was donpachi the first game with a killstreak timer?
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when i see doj replay, game looks not super hard, you just need do right movements for streaming, not trying to dodge everything
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doj is completely not about dodging(except bosses), if you haven't priorities for killing enemies in specific places, you can very easy get trapped
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>>175756986
>>175757448
it is like all the other twitch reflex stgs
no matter if raiden, psikyo, or doj, you will have to do some seriously tight dodging in them

sure mostly its just streaming, but ther parts which re actually dangerous are tight dodges
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>>175754693
>>175754804
>>175756265
thanks i've never would've guessed
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no matter, doj is shit
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>>175757448
stage 4 is fucking annoying
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>>175604584
what game?
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>>175764869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9MmyKgPsb8
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Will shmupmame ever get updated?
Should it?
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>>175765467
>mame
nah
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Since you're talking about multiplier in CCWI, does tapping lock on cancel your current multiplier?
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>>175742837
I'm practicing Dangun when I'm not working or playing other games.

Nocturne, Persona 5 and PPT eat a lot of time, man.
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>>175762583
Stage 4 is my favorite stage in DOJ. It was much easier to see my progress in it compared to any other stage.
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>>175766392
No... just play the fucking game and see for yourself.
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>>175766392
>does tapping lock on cancel your current multiplier?
im wondering if this does more or less damage than charging the lock, or does it matter at all?
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>>175768959
You do the most damage by point-blanking and charging for about 0.2 seconds or so.
It's not exactly tap-locking, but more a very short charge.
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>>175774989
does this apply to break mode also?
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>>175775476
Yes, of course. Your lock-on net needs a little bit of time to go fully over the enemy, no matter if break mode or not, that's why you have to charge only a very short time when point-blanking to do maximum damage.

With this technique you can for example speed-kill the stage 3 mid-boss to get the item it spawns and carry your multiplier over. Just watch a replay of a good player killing stage 3 mid-boss. Then you will see what the best rhythm for most damage is.
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>>175775740
>Just watch a replay of a good player killing stage 3 mid-boss. Then you will see what the best rhythm for most damage is.
good is subjective. link one?
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>>175776546
I'd say Fufufu is the best example on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiksMOaPt90&list=PLskUhTTX_jLOreX0Y2brS8nOhQehNSl9d&index=6

Pay attention to the lock-on count. If the bar at the bottom turns red, then this means it's time to let go. It takes more or less 0.2 seconds when point-blanking.
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>>175777275
>If the bar at the bottom turns red
Sorry, that's actually wrong. It's about 0.2 seconds though.
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>>175777275
>>175776546
I honestly would buy the superplay DLC though and watch Makki play there. He has the perfect timing. I think Fufufus timing is still not the most damage actually.
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Can someone please explain Ketui's scoring system? (in 1-2 sentences) I really don't get it and the thread on the farm wasn't really helpful.
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>>175777275
this game really looks like cheap poojin kusoge shit
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>>175779089
>point blank with shot
>then use lock-on to keep the multiplier alive
>don't use bombs
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>>175779089
bosses milking
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>>175779207
Actually CCWI looks even better than 99% of non-doujin shmups. The game is just full to the brim with details. And the artstyle is also really good.
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>>175780015
>Actually CCWI looks even better than 99% of non-doujin shmups.
no
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>>175780323
>>175779207
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>>175780015
the artstlye is bad plastic models with shit tons of particle effects
how is that good
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>>175783096
The artstyle is top-tier and full of details. Just alone the ship design of Type I is stylish as fuck.

Not sure what you are trying to prove with your dumb hipster posts. It's fine if you do not like the game, because you prefer anime shmups or whatever, but it's objective fact that CCWI is one of the best looking shmups ever.
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>>175783096
It really doesn't look like 3D "plastic models" at all, unlike a lot of Caveshit after ketsui
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>>175783703
>but it's objective fact that CCWI is one of the best looking shmups ever.
LOL!
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>>175783762
It does even from a glance. Games like Ketsui do a far better job at combining prerendered models and backgrounds than this visual diarrhea.
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>>175784571
Ketsui looks far more like plastic. In CCWI the models have much lighting and metal actually looks like metal. Ketsui just looks like a cartoon world for children.
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>>175784791
The first boss looks like a red toy tank lmao get real
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ccwi looks better than ketsui thats for sure. ketsui looks like boiled ass.
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>>175784891
It just looks like a cave style tank. LMAO
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>>175785158
Show me a single shiny red toy tank in Ketsui
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>>175785084
nice try kraut but I see through you
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I miss when this general had funposting, instead of this boring shitpost fest.
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>>175785595
Provide some then mr funnyman
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>>175785595
It's mostly just cee shitposting. He already did this since /vr/. And it's killing slow threads like this.
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>>175785595
What do you mean by funposting? I like fun.
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>>175785696
Why? This general has just degraded into people pretending to be kraut and cee, constantly shitflinging.
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>>175786065
Nobody pretends to be cee. He just shitposting here 24/7. And others help him with it.

And I am the one who they constantly attack.
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>>175786065
Because it'd improve the board. You can complain all you want but as soon as the shitflinging stops it gets replaced by silence and pity bumps, not good discussion and funposting.
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>>175786556
I'd rather it die than continue as it is now.
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>>175786556
Of course, because you draw away anyone with interest in the genre with your shitposting.

It's a slow thread. The only times it is fast is when people shitpost, because shitposting is easy and something anyone can do. And it's killing actual discussion about the genre.
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>>175786065
Perhaps we all really are Cee and Kraut...
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>>175787001
Wait, I'm not though.
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>>175785838
>I like fun
is that why you play anything but shmups now?
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>>175787001
"Kraut" is just a boogey man for people here for anything they disagree with.
It#s also why I don't post here barely anymore. I just get shit on no matter what I do. When I do actually discussion about shmups, I get shit on, when I defend myself I get shit on, when I do nothing, I get shit on, etc

This thread here is just full of trolls and retards, and it really should just die.
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>>175788075
Expected for a man of your legacy
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>>175788143
What are you even trying to say with this? This argument here is just the perfect example again.
I was one of the few who actually did shmup discussion here, teaching people about CCWI, and what happens? Of course people just shit on me from all sites again... It's just retarded. It makes no sense posting here, because it's just full of haters. The thread is too slow for 4chan.
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>>175787490
there's nothing fun about shmups after all
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>>175788451
I'm trying to say that you can't shitpost non-stop for over a year and then expect hostility to disappear. Just ignore the obvious bait.
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>>175788873
I was never shitposting here asshole. I was merely defending myself, because people constantly attack me here.
The only mistake I ever did here was just posting here in the first place.
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>>175789082
>I was never shitposting here asshole
Alright nevermind, forgot who I was talking to.
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>>175789157
people already attacked me here since /vr/. They attacked me because I have different tastes than them. They attacked me for liking Ikaruga or R-type. They attacked me for all kinds of stupid reasons.

This thread is basically just for cave fans and hispters, that's why I do not fit in here.
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Cool, back to this discussion with a person who is totally, definitely KBR.
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>>175789950
I am not the one who derailed this thread here again, faggot.
I was actually talking about CCWI. If you do not want me to argue here, then stop constantly fucking attacking me just because you have fucking brain problems.
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>>175789357
You need to understand that generalizing and insulting big groups of people isn't self defense. Because instead of insulting the person who's attacking you, you're insulting completely unrelated posters who will now be compelled to defend themselves.
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>>175789357
you're the one who always attacked cave saying how they were shit compared to methodical memesterpieces like ikaruga and r type. if you can't handle the clapback then don't start shit nigga.
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>everyone always bitching about people who play CAVE STGs
>everyone always bitching about people who play dadcore STGs
>everyone always bitching about people who play doujin STGs
>tfw you're the only one that enjoys playing all of them
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>>175790691
cave is god
dadcore is ok
poojins......... lmao
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>>175790313
The groups of people I insulted in return were basically just cavefans and hipsters. I am not generalizing when I say that they can be pretty cancerous. It's the same when people here talk shit about touhou fans. Cave fans are very similar.

>>175790421
I never said cave was shit. I just said they are overrated and that their fanbase (at least in the west) is cancerous.
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>>175790691
memers aside that's most people on here
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>>175790849
Nothing wrong with poojins
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>>175790691
I also enjoy them all. Cavedrones are still fucking faggots though.
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>>175791831
It was self defense officer
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>>175791978
No, I'm just giving back what I receive.
May be there are also some ok cavefans, but the majority of them are clearly faggots to me.
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>>175792382
You receive it from specific individuals but give it back to unrelated groups of people.
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>>175792382
>No, I'm just giving back what I receive.
Where in the post you quoted were you being insulted?

You're not giving back what you receive, you're attacking needlessly than claiming "you started it" when called on it. This also makes you very easy to impersonate, as someone can just insult Cavedrones and derail the thread immediately because that's exactly the kind of shit you do.

Hell, I'm not even sure if you're actually KBR or just an impersonator anymore, which is really quite tiresome.
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>>175793013
Whenever I take shit from this cancerous community, then it's always just cavedrones. They are ALWAYS the ones talking shit about Ikaruga, saying it's not shmup lol, doing ridiculous attention whore shit like writing own pastebins, whatever.

They are just fucking cancerous elitists who jerk to cheap otaku pander who merely play games for their pathetic e-peen.

I honestly don't give a shit what you think about me, because to me this whole community in general is just cancerous anyway. It's either just cave-/touhou-drone or hipster. To me they all can die, I don't care.
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>>175793118
>derail the thread immediately
I don't care if I derail anything here. You guys are just faggots anyway.
I already took so much shit here for nothing, I couldn't care less if I derail anything here or attack anyone for no reason. lol
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>>175793686
See, this is exactly why you playing the victim is nothing more than an excuse to justify past, present and future shitposting. You've already made up your mind.
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>>175794204
That I dislike cavefans is something you can thank your fellow cavefans for. What do you expect from me? When you constantly get shit by a certain group of people then it's just normal that you start to dislike this group.
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>>175793686
I'm a cavedrone to a certain extent but I love Ikaruga as well, can I dodge the gas chambers?
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>>175794582
Don't expect much from you desu just don't try to bullshit me with that self defense crap.
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huge cave fan here, ikaruga is pure shit. ccwi is ok but not as good as any real cave game.
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>>175794729
I shouldn't have laughed at this, nicely done.
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>>175795441
The self defense is no crap. Even though i dislike cavefans, mostly the arguing here just starts for me because you faggots attack me for no reason.

Just like you constantly attack anyone else too. It's just full of haters and retards here, that's why the threads are so shit.

Even when game developers post here with really solid games like Pawarumi, you guys just do nothing but talking shit about them. And then you wonder why the threads are so shit... it's ridiculous.
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>>175794729
Okay, that gave me a chuckle
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>>175795962
People attack you because you can't go a post without shitting on cave, even when it's not relevant to the argument at hand. And from what I recall you did your fair share of shitting on pawarumi aswell.
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>>175796868
Stop attacking him
Leave kraut alone!
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>>175796868
Complete bullshit again. Again, I do not shit on cave, I sometimes play cave myself. And I constantly post here without mentioning anything cave related.

I also was actually one of the few who said Pawarumi looks pretty solid especially for a western shmup. Not a fan but its really not bad.
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>>175797247
>>175783762

This is a recent post that features you going out of your way to bring cave games into the discussion and then shitting on them, just in an attempt to elevate a game you like. I honestly don't know why I even bother.
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>>175797639
No, you just made another example of the "Kraut Boogeyman" shitposting, like you do it all the time here to have someone to hate.
That anon was not me.
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>>175798320
My bad. Even though that specific example is wrong the reason you're so easy to impersonate is because you often make those sorts of generalizations, as the other anon pointed out.
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To be honest, Kraut is fairly level-headed and has some pretty decent opinions when he's not going full autism mode, and the same can be said of Cee. I think it's a shame they're always in some argument or another.
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>>175798873
Everyone here makes generalizations all the time. Stop acting as if that would be something special.
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>>175798936
Nice try kraut but I see through you

You're right, if he dropped his anti-cave crusade that'd get rid of most of his spergouts already and he'd be a decent poster. Arguments are good too.
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>>175799519
As if you had any idea about decent posting with all the lies and bullshit you spread.
For the 100th time, I have nothing against cave, I just find them overrated. I merely dislike their fanbase, just like many here dislike the touhou fanbase.
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Although, I have to correct myself. Cave is not overrated. They just have very loud fans. In reality noone gives a shit about them lol
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>>175798936
>>175799519
It's a nice thought, but he's made it quite clear that he's happy participating in these shitflinging contests. This means that these threads will always devolve into someone (kraut or not) making generalized insults about Cave games and fans, and someone else responding in kind.

It's a real shame. I liked this general a year ago, but there's barely anything here anymore.


To add some content to this post: I'm getting a bit better at Dangun, but my route is still quite bad; I often get shot by enemies that should already be dead.
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>>175799750
No one cares what you think deep down if the majority of your posts don't reflect that.
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>>175800076
>he's made it quite clear that he's happy participating in these shitflinging contests
If anything I made it clear that I see no reason to post here anymore. I don't give a shit if I insult anyone here, yes, but I constantly say that I do not want to argue when people want to argue with me here.

I just make the mistake to actually post here. It#s just full of cavefags here, that's why I shouldn't even post here. Makes no sense.
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>>175800541
You do not even know the majority of my posts, because you just have selective perception anyway.
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>>175790849
whats with the doujin hate recently? they keep the genre alive and theres a lot of good ones out there, just because theyre not arcade classic quality doesnt mean theyre bad games
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>>175797639
That post was mine. I just thought that since CCWI is inspired by Cave games that the comparison would be apt to make. I think it looks much better and less "plastic-y" than most Cave games, which no one would even think to criticise for their looks.

I could be wrong, but all graphics in CCWI look hand-crafted.

But in Mushihimesama/Deathsmiles/DDPR for instance it's very obvious that you're dealing with sprites made from 3D models.
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in ccwi how do you safely dodge the stage 2 boss "rain" attack that happens immediately after it plunges to the bottom of the screen?
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>>175803936
>which no one would even think to criticise for their looks

About a year ago maybe less a lot of people were saying how they dislike this very thing and I agree making everything look like a cute brand new shiny toy was a mistake
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>>175803936
>I could be wrong, but all graphics in CCWI look hand-crafted
Most CCWI sprites have inconsistent edges/surfaces, when pixels change their colors seemingly at random. That's a dead giveaway that it was something more detailed (3D render with calculated lightning) captured at a very low resolution and not hand-drawn.

Honestly I don't get people comparing visuals in CCWI and Cave games, if anything TAC probably mimicked Cave style as a homage.
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what's your current shmup goal shmupg?
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>>175811649
I want a 1cc kusoclear on CCWI, eXceed 3rd and Blue Revolver. Don't care how ugly it is. I can pick one to have fun with later, for now I just want to get through them
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>>175811858
>I want a 1cc kusoclear on CCWI
arcade type -z? how's that coming along
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>>175811649
Dragon Blaze 1-ALL. Very frustrating game so far, if I die once a second death usually comes shortly after, mostly thanks to the lack of invincibility and really weak bombs (as Rob at least). The dragon shot mechanic and fun scoring make up for it though.
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>>175811979
Type-II. I can beat it but only by using credits to my shame
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>>175811649
ddp doj world record (without micro dodging)
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>>175811649
DOJWL 2-ALL, after I clear up 2-4 turrets and the section between the 2nd and 3rd miniboss in 2-5, I'll be set to start doing actual runs.
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>>175811649
Dangun 1cc. Currently have a "workable" route up to the middle of stage 4.

Also kinda working on Garegga and Muchi Muchi. Garegga I can get into stage 6, but that's when the game actually gets difficult. Muchi Muchi is pounding my ass.
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How do I play shmups without getting pissed off? I don't understand it, literally no other game makes me the least bit angry or frustrated but when I play shmups I'm like that guy from that fucking stepmania video

I love the actual act of playing them but I just can't find a mindset or kind of goals that lets me actually enjoy it without losing my shit
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>>175814021
Focus on the small improvements you make. For example your run may have been a travesty but at least you're getting more consistent at an early level that killed you a lot before. Try to derive joy from beating your own scores or having above average runs. Don't think about your end goal, don't feel rushed to meet it and don't think how much time you've invested. Listening to audiobooks or podcasts helps too.
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>>175814021
I used to be the same way until I ended up breaking something really important. It's just not worth getting pissed and/or destroying shit over a botched run because if you can make it to a certain point in the game once, you're capable of doing it again.
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>>175814021
Also take frequent breaks of course. If you're feeling frustrated it's a good idea to stop for a bit, even just from a practical perspective because frustration makes you play recklessly and breaks your focus.
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>>175814021
I usually have a video of some kind playing in the background while I'm playing so that if I get too angry I can calm down by watching something.

Getting baked/drunk also helps, but makes actual runs a bit more of a pain.
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Last bahmpu before bed~

Keep flying, /shmupg/

>>175785838
who doesn't like fun!
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Farewell, sweet general. I won't be here for a while.
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>>175820979
>Farewell, sweet general. I won't be here for a while.
ye shall be missed pair of disturbing rabbits
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>>175804080
i dodge until i can't dodge anymore and then activate break, this is not a bad place for breaking at least with type z, just don't break too early during this attack.
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>>175816676
sophomoric degenerate loser ameritard detected.

>>175794092
Victim faggotry aside let's not forget how all the shit flinging ever started shall we? Back on /vr/ i tried to be helpful with satazius and you went turbo autism and instantly on the offensive, you are the cunt that shaped the mood from that point and now to play the victim? really? fuck outta here pramalam.

>>175793686
>I honestly don't give a shit what you think about me
Then all your complaints are void and you'll stfu. 10/10 for baiting these mongs into a discussion to feed your want for center of attention though it worked a treat.
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>pee accusing anyone of wanting attention
LOL!
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>>175823721
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>>175811649
good score in vulkaiser super hard or whatever score i will get until 100 hour mark, the easiest way is to avoid taking damage, but three last stages are really hard to avoid damage and even no missing first three stages is far from easy. then there is a speedkill bonus, but it's safer to just no-miss entire game, you have to kill everything fast anyway. after that sfc area 88 on gamer difficulty would be cool.
about 1.5 trillion(or whatever the red number is) with type z in ccwi, if i were to clear it right now i'd get less than 1 trillion, so it's a long way to go. after that i'll probably score in first loop of donpachi with type c, it sucks that second loop is so hard with type c, but scoring with it in first loop is really fun.
>>175811858
>>175812237
imo ccwi is not a very fun game for pure survival, try casually scoring with type z, it's fun but not frustrating becouse type z is so op.
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>>175803936
I had enough with this platic meme, you guys must be spoilered with 3D shit too much, like Ikaruga.
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>>175804080
In my Original & Unlimited route I'm supposed to bomb it, so you will get enough energy to do Double Break on last pattern.
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>>175811649
300 mil plus on Mushi 1.5 Original MAX. The requirements is giving me impenetrable wall already, at least no miss until stage 5 with 50k+ counter.
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>>175822494
>Back on /vr/ i tried to be helpful with satazius
That shit was 2 years ago... And you were just acting like you could teach me about the game, which is pretty cocky, when I didn't even ask for help.
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>>175811649
Raiden III kuso clear on arcade difficulty. And working more on my own """"game"""".
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>>175827064
See there you go again, you were asking questions and i offered help but no you had to fly off the handle with that boring german "hurrrr german to smart for everyone" bullshit and i didn't try to teach you about the game I actually just linked you to a 7 mill replay instead which you also attacked. You are the problem cunny-kun.

>>175826408
>300 mil plus on Mushi 1.5 Original MAX. The requirements is giving me impenetrable wall already, at least no miss until stage 5 with 50k+ counter.
God good luck that games a nightmare and the slowdown a mess. That said stage 3 on 50k rank is absolutely beyond infuriating but a good stage 1/2 route should land you 300 mill ish comfortably by mid 4.
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>>175827909
I honestly can't remember exactly anymore what happened back then, but I also don't care. Afaik, I was not asking for help though. And you also were trying to ridicule me for thinking that a certain boss is too OP.
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>>175827909
>the slowdown a mess
Agree with this, I don't know if this is "normal" behavior compared to pcb version, or it's just bad port.
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>>175828093
well i can remember and this is precisly what happened..... you were complaining relentlessly that the green boss in the stage 5 parade was bullshit and random which ruined your runs, i said there is a strategy for it and linked the 7 mill video to offer suggestion and you flipped out like a hyper 64bit turbo tard.
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>>175828224
>this is precisly what happened
I doubt this... But even if I was in the wrong back then (which I wasn't), don't you find it a bit ridiculous to be so butthurt constantly about a thing which happened 2 years ago?
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>>175828195
It's normal and it is controllable, basically it relates to the shot you're using, jewel generation and other things so you learn to route and execute in a way that activates it that said it's just an abysmal concept poorly executed. It wouldof been fine if they achieved it through sensible software means instead of the peaking hardware method because sh-3 is shite. It's because of this that the other shot types give you totally different results but they are terrible for score anyway.

>>175828339
It fucking is mate, my memory is impeccable.
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>>175825917
plastic may looks like ass to me, but it's also nostalgic, a lot of games in late 90s and early 00s used pre-rendered graphics.
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>>175828739
It's about how its used,mars matrix is ugly in one way but achieves such a good atmosphere that it just works.
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>>175828831
>mars matrix
naaah, ugly as sin
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>>175828981
I said that, jesus read the whole sentence you fucking adhd millennial shit.
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>>175829029
it doesn't work if it looks like shit you stupid bastard
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>>175829064
it achieves a great atmosphere but looks ugly in one way like i said you fucking cuntbag. OST is great to so suck my fucking dick whilst i pee in your mouth.
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>>175829128
alright it's cool if you consider a storm of diarrhea and vomit a great atmosphere
i'm not one to judge
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>>175829192
https://youtu.be/KBWuDhIv9B0
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Early 3d has always been my favourite type of shitty graphics
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>>175830018
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMvmoTkfzv8
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>touhou
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>>175829759
Early 3D is fine, it has charm and purpose. But the animatronics-looking shit in Cave games just looks weird.
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anyone else feeling the feveron meh?
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Bampuuuu
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G R E A T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdjvNPZW2fI
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Bahmpu~

>>175834273
I enjoyed the style of it when I was watching PlasticHydra play. I don't know if I could play it in a dedicated way for score but in short bursts? Very enjoyable.
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>>175834273
>not on pc
nope
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>>175842293
stay mad pcfat
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can't get pb, because you basically need NMNB full game
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>>175818381
What is fun?
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>>175849736
playing shpergoomps for survival
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>>175850976
>survival is fun
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scoring is more frustrating, also infinity restarts
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harry i've been playing puyo in the form of kirbys avalanche on the snes, pretty fun. After i get some idea of how to play we should try online.


>>175834273
i like everything about it apart from actually playing it, i find it more fun to choose the slowest speed and go raiden style collecting is a shitter like this though.
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>>175851524
>scoring is more frustrating
that's true but frustration is better than boredom, especially first few levels are always boring.
>also infinity restarts
do you think japs at arcades restart often? they don't, becouse it costs money to play, so they make good, safe routes and when they screw up they use opportunity to practice.
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Raiden 3 controls so slow..
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>>175857689
The controls are fine. The annoying thing about the game are just the fucking power-ups. They are more dangerous than the bullets.
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schmups are gay
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>>175852454
Sure. Get yourself the hang of making chains and stuff.
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>>175857689
it's okay, i expected ship to be slower. i just tried it, it's a lot easier than first raiden, if only becouse there are no checkpoints. not a bad game at all, though graphics are worse than in far older ikaruga, i guess they had tight budget.
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Bump
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>>175867465
Windia smelt it and knows who dealt it.
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someone give me a type I route for stage 3, mine is obvs too shit
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>>175869049
watch superplay replay
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>>175869340
i don't have the dlc
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>>175870286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1UC4sM5FM
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>he fell for the magical girl meme
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>tfw you really like deathsmiles, and you want to watch a video about it, but you can't because every single fucking thing you find on it is, at minimum, 50% of the host desperately trying to convince anyone who's watching how he's totally NOT a pedophile and how there's a great game here if "you can just get past the loli thing" and hey did i mention how i'm completely not a pedophile and historically this game came out at just the right time to rejuvenate interest in the SO I'M NOT A CHILD MOLESTER HAVE I MENTIONED THAT IN THE LAST 20 SECONDS OR SO?
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>>175859736
>>175864726
it's less annoying in later levels where you generally have less space to move in, but in earlier levels where theres tons of space to move around it it becomes kind of jarring.
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>>175874721
I've never really looked at stuff like that before, but I can imagine it happening. Seems kind of odd, since Rosa and Follett are both dressed more provocatively and typically are featured just as prominently in promotional art as Casper and the other girl.
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>>175878053
>and.the.other.girl.
Poor girl. She doesn't even deserve a name apparently.
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>>175775740
>With this technique you can for example speed-kill the stage 3 mid-boss
thanks this was really helpful. the second half of stage 3 completely still wrecks me though. the first half has an ok route at least.

> to get the item it spawns and carry your multiplier over
what do you mean by this? i don't understand those items. if i pick up energy while in break mode it turns break mode off?
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>>175878929
>if i pick up energy while in break mode it turns break mode off?
No, you just get more break energy, so you can use break more often, or bombs
Usually I'd always use energy.
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Not shitposting, honest question. How close do bullets have to be together for you to call something a 'micrododge' requirement? Is it if you have to tap for a fraction of a second vs being able to normal press a direction for a second or is that also considered a micrododge and only sweeping movement is considered normal?
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>>175882495
it's a meme. don't think too hard about it.
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>>175882495
Its not as much about the gap size but whether or not you dodge outside of an attack or inside. When used in another context its subjective, to me its when the gap isnt big enough to fir through the whole ship sprite with some wiggle room.
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>>175882495
play crimzon clover, it's mostly micrododging.
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20m coming soon
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>>175884932
what's the wr?
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>>175888330
For type B 27,116,820
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>>175884932
original? nice
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Did you know Ikaruga was originally a 2 button game?

Really makes you think.
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>>175893528
Best girl out of the group
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>>175893618
Rosalie > Plumeria > Cattleya > Souffle > Datura > Ranun > Kalmia > Luccica > Lily > Digitalis
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>>175889768
It really doesn't.
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>>175878053
>Always potato'ing Follett

Terrible.
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Oh noes, save states for Darius Gaiden don't work
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>>175901390
boo hoo you won't be able to cheat now
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>>175901390
>save states
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>>175901390
It would appear that you need to gitteth gud.
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>>175901914
>>175901390
>mame
LOL!
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>>175902006
That's exactly why someone would want save states dummy
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>>175903230
>needing save states to get good
pc kids.........
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>>175903382
It's undeniably more efficient
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKGynWxjYaM
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>>175905776
slowbeef's wife gets it.

But it's still impressive that he beat CCWI and considers it a favourite. Me in comparison, I'm far away from beating it, and it's not really my kind of shmup anyway...
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>>175906395
>But it's still impressive that he beat CCWI
wasn't it only type z?
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>>175906481
I have no idea; I never watched his streams. I just heard that he beat it.

Then again, he played and praised Hydorah a lot a few years ago and urged everyone to play it but it's a really painfully bland game imo although it definitely looks nice.

I prefer just watching retsupurae~
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>>175906774
He's probably just a desperate horifag who feels happy every time devs throw him a bone
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>>175905776
YAMETEEEEEEEE
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>>175905776
>I would rather be sentenced to an eternity of undertale than this
OVER
THE
LINE
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>>175901390
They don't work at all? I could swear I had some states set up, though of course it's been so long I might just me misremembering.
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