/rpgmg/ - RPG Maker General #204

Post progress Anons!

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I did worthless edits today.

Would it be a good idea to have the main character, who is not a majorly important person, suffer amnesia at the start of the game, where he just forgets his name (until you enter a new name) and the lore of most of the world he's in, but nothing else beyond that, just as an excuse to have stuff explained to him and the player, despite him living in this world?

>>175224518
I kinda want to say that the MC having amnesia is overused but it works well enough.

>>175224518
I think that's called low hanging fruit. Everyone's touched it; nobody wants it.

>>175224518
You just want an excuse for a blank slate, right? Amnesia works fine for that, even if it is cliched.

>>175224518
Just have them wake up from a bad hangover. Otherwise, there are better ways to tell your story than selective amnesia.

>>175224518
give mc alzheimer's

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I'm likely going to make a game with a Punch Out type of battle system, where it revolves around dodging choreographed attacks, and attacking during openings. I have a couple concerns I'm pondering about, though.

>asset creation
Lots of animation frames. Very time consuming.

>battle scene's horizontal camera panning
I want to make use of multiple layered parallax. Like if you launch an enemy upwards, each layer will pan itself downwards a bit depending on their intended distance.

In Punch Out, you have these small sidesteps available to you, and I know it'll look really cool to have the background pan itself around a bit when you dodge with it. Think Golden Sun's subtle(?) panning in its battle scenes. The problem is, the enemy sprite will always be facing directly downward. If there's too great of a panning, it'll give the impression that the enemy's somehow spinning around and constantly facing the player. This would be much easier to deal with if I were working with 3D models.

My current plan is to just severely limit the implied horizontal distance the sidesteps are moving, which will then mean the background panning will be limited. It won't be as visually impressive, but it'll avoid the enemy quick spinning problem.

>setting
As far as plot goes, I don't know/care and people probably don't want to give suggestions for it, but the.. setting itself, I need ideas for. Like, I don't think I want to do a tournament kind of thing like Punch Out. I'm leaning towards it being like a more normal RPG, but with random encounters just always leading to 1v1 battle scenes instead of XvY. I think the onslauht of individual encounters against random skeletons will be boring eventually, though. I'm not sure what I'll be doing about this.

>>175225581
>>175225639
>>175225649
Well I thought the character wouldn't be a complete blank slate. He would remember people he knows, and local events, it wouldn't be the kind of amnesia that makes it hard for him to do things in every day life, it would just be the larger scale knowledge that he wouldn't remember, so the player can learn about this world through him without it seeming strange for him to ask these questions normally.

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>>175226481
>the player can learn about this world through him without it seeming strange for him to ask these questions normally
There's a narrative device you need. A second party member. The 'Gus.'

On the show 'Recess,' Gus was the new kid, and was used to legitimize all the exposition. The kids weren't telling the audience; they were telling Gus, because he's new in town and didn't know the culture/folklore of the school.

You don't need amnesia to explain things to the audience. You need someone tagging along with the MC who needs everything explained to him. If you don't need them later, just have the MC give them a tour of the town.

Alternatively, you could do a better job of 'showing' the information. People have feelings about upcoming events. Someone is dreading the town festival because they don't have a date. Someone read about a world-ending prophecy and they hope it hits their mother-in-law first.

Hope this helps

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>>175225996
>God Hand
Good taste

This sounds like a very neat idea but I have to wonder if the RPG Maker is really the best tool for a system like this. It seems like a lot of work, but on the other hand using any other engine would also result in a lot of work.
Are you going for a real time battle system or a turn based one?

As for the setting, you could do anything really.
You could do some dark underground MMA thing where the MC is forced to fight but maybe a more light-hearted narrative would be better.
I can totally see the main character being some sort of (gentleman) pugilist who beats up vile ruffians.
If you were to go with a fantasy setting you could make some really interesting fights, who wouldn't want to punch demons/angels/flora/fauna in the face?

And yes the game like this should have no random encounters. All fights should be meaningful.

What do you think about progression?
All moves already unlocked by the beginning? Unlocking moves by advancing the story or by finding new equipment?

>>175226481

Why not just have the character be from another country? That way, he can have cultural stuff explained to him easy peasy. Not only that, but if he ever brings the rest of his party back to visit his country, he can explain things to them, so it works in both directions.

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How often do you backup your game, /rpgmg/?

>>175230023

I build the files on a Dropbox/Google drive, so that it's always backed up.

>>175227116
That is a possible idea, but then you still get the whole "explain things that these characters should know simply by living there" problem. But with >>175229016 idea, maybe I'll consider having the 'Gus' be a visitor from another country who has no knowledge of local things. I appreciate the help folks.

>>175230441

>trusting the cloud with your files
I hope you're not planning on going commercial, because that shit will get stolen faster than you can say 'fuck'.

>>175233924

I'm not. My game is freeware.

>>175235207

Oh. Carry on.

>>175230023
Whenever I make progress
I once lost half a novel because I was dumb and had no backups.
Never again.

>>175230023

I back up stories I write every time I make a notable change. Generaly every chapter has about ten drafts.

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Tell me about the first project you made

>>175239840
I'm still making it.

>>175239840
It looked like shit and the maps were using default assets
Protag is a sociopathic silent protag that turns out to be the final boss
I ended up tacking on a lot of dumb optional shit, difficulty options, and a pretentious alternate ending
Database was a nightmare
Game was complete with ~7 crappy dungeons, almost nothing in-between, and poor guidance.
Never released it out of shame
and this all happened in middle school
It might be the cringiest thing I've ever done, but I call it experience

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>>175239840
Alright. There was this dude, Cleric01. I named him Vox or Nox or something like that...I was going through this White Mage as protagonist phase...anyways he lived with 2 other guys. Gunner1 and I dunno who else, they were suppose to be a "guild" (I didn't know how guilds work)
So the first thing I made was their house. A living room and 3 bedrooms. They didn't have doors because I didn't know the trick to walk under doorways. So I imagined the lack of privacy meant they were really comfortable around each other and took baths together. So I put a pool in the front room...and I made a bunch of secret passage ways and switches because back then Tomb Raider was still fresh in my mind and exploring the Croft Mansion and finding the treasure room was really fun.
But back to the story...he was the new guy to the guild. It starts off with a initiation ritual inspired by different manhood rituals I read/seen, where he strips naked, swims across water, symbolizing his shed childhood, and then gets a brand or tattoo. But my hormonal teenage brain wanted to entertained this idea from this funny craigslist post, a male bonding 3-way involving crystals.
And nothing panned out after that, because I'd drift off into la la land imagining a society built on free love and casual sex whenever you wanted it.

>>175243282
>"Hey guy want to join our guild?"
>"Drop your pants and take this crystal"

>Waiting for Lecode to release 0.7
Tbh, I want version 1 but that ain't happening soon.

How old are your partymembers?
Are you going for a bunch of teenagers?
1000 years old lolis?

>>175252317
My protag is just a kid who ended up being the next hero in the cycle. She's maybe 13 or 14 and has no idea what she's doing. The other party member is an ageless essence of fire.

>>175230023
Whenever I hear about someone else losing all of their work. It happens often enough that I wonder if they're just lying to themselves/others so that they feel less guilty about making little progress.

Regardless, I still make a backup of my files that very second.

>>175239840

Back in 2000 or thereabouts. It's a territorial dispute where a guy on one end of the island gathers three friends, walks to the west end of the island, and kills the other guy.

>>175228970
It'd absolutely be much more reasonable to do it in a 3D engine, but right now isn't the time for me to experiment with a new engine. It'll be real-time, yeah.

>progression
The dream game would have as wide a moveset as God Hand, because I really enjoy extensive customization. Each new move would increase the asset creation work load extensively, though.

Right now, I'm just thinking of the essential functions
>attack
>launcher
>air-targeted
>sweep
>knockback(?)

I just know having spells will allow me to use the same casting animation for the player, so there will be a number of magic spells.

Knockback is a possibility, because I might incorporate an element of distance. It'd visibly be represented by shrinking the enemy sprite if it's meant to be farther away.

>>175254250
With distances, something like JJBA: the 7th stand user? Close range attacks whiffing far opponents, but far attacks not doing much up close?

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Stay alive

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Work on your game.

>>175264074
after i do my mobile game dailies

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>>175264474
If you have time for Battle Cats you have time to make progress

What is the secret to not lose motivation?

>>175265775
Set small, achievable goals. Work on one at a time.

>>175265775

Keep working even when you aren't motivated.

Motivation and willpower will fail you always.

Also what this (>>175265775) guy said because even if it doesn't motivate you, small goals are doable.

>>175265775
Masturbate a lot

tell me about your protagonist and their party

>>175268416
a bunch of goofballs hellbent on changing their surroundings

After reading the amnesia question at the start of the thread I was reminded of this idea I had.

Do you think you could use amnesia as some kind of bait and switch tactic? Like instead of having generic MC forgets everything, you could spend the first half or so of the game in a specific setting with specific characters. Then have the character awake in a completely different setting with completely different characters years later who talk to him as if they've known him for years.
I think it could help relate to the MC in the amnesia sense better than just starting the game like that, because after spending hours in one place and time with specific characters, the jarring change would leave both the MC and player confused.

Or is that just stupid?

>>175269079
like they were frozen in time or something?

>>175265775
I was the most productive when I was able to look back at the day's work and think
>yeah, this is some fucking good shit

It was reaally easy to work an entire day when I could see it turning into something godlike.

>>175269161
I was thinking a series of events happens like he loses his old friends/they die, moves to a new location, and lives there for years and befriends the people. Then some kind of head injury or accident or something causes some form of retrograde that affects the years that the life changing events happens. So the last thing that they remember was their old life but in reality they've moved on but don't remember that.

>>175269079
I really like this idea.

>>175269347
meant to say retrograde amnesia

>>175268416

A young aristocrat who has been cursed to have the body of a ten year old.

mabumpdyne

Has anyone ever made a program to make autotiles for VX Ace? I can't wrap my head around them

>>175277903
>Reflect bump
Psssh, nothing personnal kiddo

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>>175278006
It's really not that complicated. Just take your time and read a tutorial, and you'll be fine!

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Does anyone want some music? I have some free time. Here's my portfolio so you know I'm not a shitposter. I've done music for /agdg/ and /rpgmg/. It's in alphabetical order so the rpgm music is at the bottom. This isn't all my music-
just stuff I've made for other people.

https://soundcloud.com/4c_nathan_music/sets/portfolio

If you want a piece, just reply with:
* The mood you want (happy, sad, mysterious, etc)
* The context of the music, even if very basic like "someone died". The more detailed the better, however.
* The style of the music. MIDI, real instruments, chiptune, a specific console sound, etc.
* A screenshot of your game. I know it's silly but I don't want to make you a song if you're an idea guy with no game. Nothing fancy just proof you're doing something.

>>175278690

What happens when a person is bumped instead of a thread?

>>175279723

Now I wish I was making a game so I could ask you for something.

Alas.

Nonetheless, if you deliver unto the first person who asks you legitimately, you are a mensch.

>>175279902
Hmm. It's a slow general so ask for something anyway. If I don't get any requests in a few hours or very few requests, I might do it anyway for fun. If I do I'll just put it at the end of the line.

>>175279341
useful resource

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>>175279723
I don't have a screenshot of my game yet but I have portraits and shit that I'm working on, if that works.

>>175280329

I regret that the general is slow, but I have recently become interested in lurking and learning about RPG Maker so...ah well. What I have learned at least is a little interesting.

In any case, here's my request just in case you don't get any.

*Anxious/Excited
*Social Embarrassment: The Debutante Trips after her introduction to society.
*Really, anything will do.

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>>175279723
Is it just me or does the link not work?

>>175280426
I should add that I stole it from blog.rpgmakerweb.com, didn't make it myself.

>>175280930
Spooky characters, anon. I like the one on the left.

>>175281040

Isn't just you.

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>>175281813
Thanks. Here's his portraits.

>>175280976
Anxious or excited. Introduction to society. Alright I think I have a picture. Would you be willing to elaborate a little more on the context?

>>175281040
>>175281848
The playlist and tracks were set to private. I thought sharing the link would work but I don't think it did. Should be fixed now?

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doot

>>175282263
Works fine now, yes.

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>>175282568

>>175282263

Works now.

She gets to the bottom of the stairs of her family's mansion and trips, bloodying her nose, causing a great deal of embarrassment in a moment that should have been another good note in her illustrious family's history.

Also I'm listening to your music from the link and you got some good shit. You oughta sell your services to projects looking to commercialize.

>>175282820
Alright, one more question. Is this song more of a goofy tone or a sad tone. Embarrassing/anxious/excited moods can go both ways sometimes.

>Also I'm listening to your music from the link and you got some good shit. You oughta sell your services to projects looking to commercialize.
Thank you very much, anon! I'd love to someday but I have issues with getting overwhelmed easily and not finishing anything, so I prefer not to contract myself. Plus I'm not as good as professional composers. Maybe someday!

>>175282247
Neat! It's cool to see someone's progress on their own characters. I'm still working with testing ideas through little oneshot games and RTP assets, but I hope I can do something original one day. Good luck, anon.

>>175280930
Oh shit, I never noticed your reply! I'm so sorry anon!
I'll take your request anyway if you have one.

>>175283143

Goofy or sad, that's a hard one. I'd argue it's tense, which is closer to sad than goofy.

It might be funny to people watching, but it's easily the worst moment in the character's life up until that point.

>I'm not as good
Only way you learn is more experience. And some of that is bloodying your nose on failures, for better or worse.

I hope for your success in whatever you try to do, nonetheless.

>>175283356
No problem!

*Melancholic and mournful
*Final boss music against a boss that doesn't fight back. It can't fight back. And it won't fight back.
*Whatever you want. However, if it contained some kind of simple motif that I could work back from to construct my own music, that would be super cool (I'm trying to make most of the music for my own game but I'm really not that great at music).

>>175283439
Tense. Alright I've got a sense of what you want now. I'll jot it down on a sticky note and get to it if I have the time.
>I hope for your success in whatever you try to do, nonetheless.
Thank you very much, Anon.

>>175283603
Alright, sounds easy enough. Would you mind elaborating on why the final bass does not fight back? Might help me get a feel.
>contained some kind of simple motif that I could work back from to construct my own music
Can do.

>>175283439
>>175283603
Oh and by the way I am not a fast worker typically. Please don't assume that I dropped your request if you don't hear from me for a little bit. If for whatever reason I need to drop it, I'll tell you.

>>175284056
The entire game takes place in a metaphysical prison that's a cross between the main character's subconscious and a kind of purgatory. The final boss is the prison's "heart", since it has created its own consciousness separate from its origin. Since, in the setting, true new minds and souls cannot be created from nothing, the prison is in incredible pain and has to be mercy killed: since it's a fragment of the MC, if it dies, the MC can become whole again, but otherwise the prison will become whole if the MC dies, and it wants to be nothing again.

If that makes sense.

>>175284303

I operate under the assumption that you're not going to deliver until you deliver, so the bar for disappointing me is pretty high

>>175285247
Alright, I think I have all the info I need. Thank you!

>>175285319
Just making sure

>>175279723
>mansion.mp3
Oh, I remember requesting that song a year ago or so!
Fantastic that you are still here.

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>>175282568
>>175282691

>>175285624
someone got inspired by space funeral i see

>>175285624
same as it every was
same as it every was
same as it every was

>>175285565
Has it already been that long? Yikes. Feels like it was yesterday

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>>175285950
I don't get it. What's the joke

>>175285624
This is not my beautiful skele-wife!

>>175285950
>every
you done messed up anon

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>>175286521
>>175286676
THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE
THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE

>>175286521
LETTING THE DAYS GO BY

>>175286804
LET THE WATER HOLD ME DOWN

I hate guessing at what people might want/need in their games.

>>175287626
I need anime tiddies.

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I need some prop ideas

>>175288337
With chibi sprites? I don't think that can be helped.
I did see some MV sex templates on Pixiv though.

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LIVE!

>>175289479
A flower that grows OUT of an iris. Too many "spooky" eyes that are still whole and clean in horror.

>>175294287
original sauce?

>>175289479
A bony hand sticking out of the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6tck0OFsgk

no regrets

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING MAPS?

IM HERE BECAUSE OP PICTURE

I WANT MAPS

I LOVE MAPS

GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING MAPS RIGHT NOW

thanks

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>>175306160
fine here i made you this


(holy shit this rtp is constricting)

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>>175306880
Reminds me of the tomb at the start of Dragon Quest Builders.
>(holy shit this rtp is constricting)
Have you tried parallax mapping?

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>>175307291
I've tried, but in this case I wanted to see if I could do something with the rtp.

Anyway, slightly more natural looking rocks maybe?

>>175308429
Which RPG Maker is this?

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>>175309141
The best one!

>>175225649
>drink too much alcohol
>wake up in an unknown world

>>175309818
'murrika

>>175309818
You mean this DOESN'T happen to you every other weekend?

>>175309957
God bless.

>>175308429
That looks better. Curves and broken lines (the way you made the cliff edges wiggly instead of straight) are always preferred when making natural maps and fortunately rm2k has the tiles to do that.

p10

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I haven't started my game because I couldn't find the plugin I need.
Okay, there is script that does similar thing but it's in japanese.

>>175311484

Nature abhors straight lines and right angles, at least in general, right?

>>175317602
What plugin is it?

>>175317921
Yep.

>>175317979
It's already discussed in previous thread.
Roguelike battle system.
I don't need the random map generator, only the battle system.

I ask something similar to Chocobo Dungeon before.

>>175317602
what the shit did I just witness

>>175318652
Virgin Ball

>>175309681

That takes me back...

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Is graphic gale good enough for me who want to learn drawing?
I'm a complete amateur, though.

>>175320008

The important thing is that you put forth the effort to start learning, moreso than anything else.

A complete amateur doesn't become a master by not trying, after all.

Any scriptfags/pluginfags know how I might achieve a battle system similar to Sengoku Rance? I was thinking have "HP" become "Troops" but I still need to find a way to have a menu similar to the player's for the enemy in battle that shows their HP and have actors and enemies show up on screen when it's their turn rather than constantly being on screen.

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>>175323165
pic related

>>175323165
Not for MV. I think the developer who made the VX sample game Dragoness Edge 2820, had a battle system like that.

But jap sites are fucking crap. All the good resource sites are dead and gone after a year of inactivity.

Are any of the RPG makers actually worth their market value?

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>>175306160
>mapfag
My nigga. Here's what I'm working on.

>>175326428
That depends what you think they're worth. Compared to other game engines, it's actually pretty cheap.

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>>175326897

I have no cost reference.

I'm also at least 1% Hebrew, so everything seems more expensive to me than it would to normal people.

>>175326428
Compared to the PS1 version, yes. It's still getting sold by Agetec and retails for $70

>>175326957
I'm intrigued by your game, really looking forward to it.

>>175327202

Huh $80 for RPG MV.

Not really sure what MV stands for, but that ain't half bad.

>>175332645
It gets sales pretty often, I bought MV for 30 something bucks

>>175332995

Well that's good to know.

Definitely waiting for a sale.

My sheqels only go so far.

>>175330748
Thank you anon.

>>175332645
MV = Mobile Version
It used java and HTML5 to deploy games in browser and mobile devices.

Other than that, it's basically an upscale of VX Ace's graphics. With tacky monster designs.

>>175336095

Gay. I'll have to pirate different versions, see what's legit, and then buy whatever I end up liking best.

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This blog, Hira Shine Factory, has cornered cliffs and slops. I knew someone would make them eventually, but it took longer than I expected.
http://hirahira25.blog.fc2.com/

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gotta pay tribute

>>175338718
>It shouldn't be.

>>175336095
>>175336658
Oh, it also has side-view battlers, like what RM2k had. But the battle background and battle animations are designed for Front-View battles.

So your characters will look like they were hit with a shrink-ray if they're on BGs with doors and furniture twice their size.

And with battle animations, you still can't put cells behind a target, or tween a variable path from caster to target and any other logical controls, or move the target to do stuff like push-back and aerials - they haven't improved on at all since the first rpg maker. In a lot of ways, it's a down grade. I think rm2k had the option for large animations cells. And in XP you had user animations which I found incredibly useful.

So between 2000, 2003, and XP, which would you say is best?

>>175343627
XP

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Layout for Everspring Village, the 'starting town' of my game. North = Militia/Guard Barracks, Armory and Training Facility. South = Everspring Forest and, eventually, the first of the four Towers/Dungeons in the game. East = Farmlands. West = Magic Academy ran by the Church.

Buildings are:
An Inn, which includes a tavern and alchemist, an Armorer, a Tailor, a Weaponsmith and a Church/Graveyard.

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>>175224489
Your skill level is showing.

>>175330748
What's so special? His art assets are poorly drawn

>>175224489
This guy makes reminds me of Jay from tales of legendia. The game has the most gaudiest character designs ever. And Jay is suppose to be this assassin/ninja. But he's wearing big white sneakers on chicken legs sticking out under large baggy clothes. and mascara . You just can't take him seriously.

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>>175347296
I forgot the hair .

>>175320008
It depends on the type of drawing - it's good for spriting, but might not be the best if you're thinking of other kinds of art.

>>175338296
Glorious!

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LIVE!

>>175338296
That is my motherfucking fetish

>new laptop
>mv stuck on blank white screen
>update drivers
>still white screen
what do?

>>175338296
Diagonal Shadows?!

>>175359238
Re-install MV

>>175359238
Try a new project on a different save location

Is it especially tough to create a Zelda-style block puzzle in RPGMaker? I'm just starting out with it and testing out how to make different kinds of puzzles.

>>175364628
You mean a push the block to a certain location type of thing?

>>175364628

If you know how to design it so it can be reset or else can't be easily broken, then really the only limits are your creativity.

>>175365042
Yeah, or one where like each block just moves one space and you have to figure out how to push them so that you can make a path through. I'm guessing there's a way to set things up so that all the events reset when you leave the room? And I guess you'd need the whole thing to freeze upon completion, which you could probably just tie to the last block?

>>175359241
Didn't even notice this. How is it being done?????

>>175365689
It's very easy to do.

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My intro and the first maps are coming together. It's an RPG with mystery/puzzle elements and gloomy / horrorish themes. I also made a simple-ass sounding title theme in FL studio this morning.

https://clyp.it/riul2mj3

This hobby is the best hobby.

>>175373670
nice

>>175379050

Thank you my dude. Here's some other pics of what I've done so far to avoid cluttering this wonderful thread. I wish I had discovered RPG maker sooner

https://ibb.co/ctLcd5
https://ibb.co/cC54Qk
https://ibb.co/j6jW5k

>>175380232
Neat. Is that a custom lighting script?

>>175383140

Nope I used Terrax 's lighting system. Go check it out, a lighting plugin is a must to set the mood in my opinion

>>175380232
Don't worry about cluttering the thread. It needs all the bumps it can get!

That aside, the stairs on top of https://ibb.co/cC54Qk bug me. Are they supposed to be leading INTO the building or down FROM the building?

>>175387943

They are meant to take you into the main building. The reason why they are elevated is to give it a sense of importance, or something. There is a 98% chance that I don't know what the fuck I'm doing LOL

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>>175389427
So you mean like on the left, rather than the right?

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>>175392587

It's the first one! I messed it up!!
I think I know what you mean, and I think I fixed it

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I am using placeholder music from other games to set the mood I'm after until I am able to compose something that sounds good enough and represents the same spooky feeling. I'm currently using ambient tracks from devil may cry, resident evil and bloodborne (just placeholders). Do you guys do this at all? If I wanted to share a demo with you guys, would that be considered scummy or stealing by this thread's culture?

>>175395441
In my case, I actually made the music a few years ago but had nothing to do with it. So now, I'm making a game based around said music. That being said, the track names are spoilers now.

>>175398903
Eric had a hard life

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HALP

How do I make the text on this "note field" smaller, so I can fit large paragraphs of lore just like in my dark soulz gamez? I already tried this /} thing to make the font smaller, but it changes nothing. How do I show more text for descrptions?

>>175393575
That's better! Nice!

>>175401157
use | instead

>>175401157

Nevermind I am stupid as fuck. I figured it out. You just have to put the \} before the actual line you want to see reduced

live thread pls

What is the one thing so crucial to your protagonist that changing it changes the entire game?

>>175407678
His knowledge of the game. The entire plot hinges on him getting sucked in from the real world and knowing exactly what's supposed to happen.

>>175407678
He was helping the bad guy all along and now everything is falling apart.

>>175407678
nothing

>>175407678

Her memories. If what she believes to be true were to be changed, the whole story would take on a very different approach. The same is true for the rest of the members of the council.

liiiiiiive

>>175395441
No. The rpgm community I know does it as a hobby not a commercial endevor. I'm used to hearing chrono cross tracks in every other project

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Ayyy /rpgmg/ I dun finished my first ever demo! It's barely 5 minutes of gameplay, 3 days work. Check it out if you want!

Here's the premise: You're a duelist who grew up in a beautiful "fencing academy" that's now ruined and inhabited by dead student's spirits. What happened to the academy? Why can't you remember anything? Who sent you the letter you have in your key items inventory? Find out... or not! In this short-ass, shitty-ass 100 MB demo!

https://www.file-upload.com/1007lvqw0e11
Here's the letter for dem niggas who won't read that shit while in game. The game uses weeb names so beware

>>175418957

>Iris Academy

>>175419271

Does it sound too stupid? It does, right? I wanted to pick something unconventional and kind of feminine. I think the iris is some kind of pland and a part of the eye.

>>175418957
I'd play it. But my grandma is on her deathbed. Good thing its not my turn with the collab

>>175419643

Well, just check it out when you have the time, if you want at all. I'm excited to hear criticism from this wonderful thread!

>>175419634

The only issue I have with it is that it's in another game.

I'll give it a go. What could go wrong?

>>175418957
Downloading now senpai. Is there any particular feedback you're looking for?

Small problem with your demo and/or my computer handling the player, homie, it's been 'now loading' for ages.

>>175420441
Just quickly updating my post here. I reached a load screen about ten seconds into the game, and it appears to be frozen. I give it a 7/10

A load screen? Weird. I played my own demo and didn't encounter any issues at all? The starting cutscene is supposed to be pitch black at first, for like 10 seconds. Let ot play dude.

I swear to god i didn't know "iris academy" had been used as a name in another game! I'll change it. I want to know if you guys were able to play my demo and if you were interested enough to finish it

>>175421404

I gave it five minutes.

>>175421718
Well fuck. I don't know what i did wrong. I will look to fix and repack everything tomorrow. Sorry for wasting your time, i have no idea what bug or crash i have let slip. My demo thing worked good on me computer

>>175422095

I don't know enough to say what could cause the problem.

It uses VX Ace RTP to run, right?

>>175306880
>>175307291
>>175308429
>>175326564
>>175338296
>>175344719
THANKS FOR THE MAPS

>>175422342

Nope, this should be rpg MV. it should use rpg maker MV stuff, maybe you need to have that installed or somethin

>>175422904

Oh that might be activating the almonds. I didn't install that RTP because I was going to tryrate VX Ace.

>>175422904

Just getting this in, apparently MV does not have an RTP.

To quote our Japanese overlords:

It has been released from the burden of RTP "RPG Maker MV"
Previous work far, and when you want to produce a game, when you play that game, there was a need to be installed in advance RTP (the runtime package). The purpose is mainly did it to reduce the download capacity of the game, it abolished this specification in the "RPG Maker MV" from such that it has been no longer need to worry about the capacity as conventional by the spread of broadband. When you produce a game in the new, and now copy all of the material file in the game folder.

>>175423107

Well i don't want to waste your time but if you happen to install MV RTP check the demo out for spooky foggy demo

>>175423419
I did encrypt my images and audios when exporting the demo and exclude all unused files. Maybe that's fucking it all up?

>>175423669

I have no idea, to be honest. I haven't used an RPG maker since the year 2000.

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Would someone be willing to test how it is so far? I want to see if I should continue this thing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtp13hjq53ky2zi/SkellyMcSpooks%20Demo.7z?dl=0

VX Ace RTP needed of course.

>>175424304
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtp13hjq53ky2zi/SkellyMcSpooks%20Demo.7z?dl=0

I'll give it a go.

Anything in particular you want complained about?

>>175424943
Anything. Also, demo ends at the doors of the mansion.

>>175425127

Is there anyway to heal? The trees are fucking my asshole.

>>175425653
Talk to the Wisdom Tree in Whispering Woods. He'll grant one full heal and one save.

Also be sure to examine everything and anything.

>>175425653

NVM this tree I fucked up dropped milk.

>>175425943
out of context that sounds so weird.

>>175425894
>>175425127

This is an all right demo. I don't really like the whole 'attacking is a thing separate from the battle screen', but you do it well enough that I'm not really bothered.

You got a solid piece of work here, really, but I feel like fighting is a matter of luck mostly, and not forgetting that the axe is on the F key instead of the key you're hitting to talk to things.

>>175426261
Thanks. Everything in it was done by me. Except for the scripts. I know the music clashes a bit with the art, as the art is intentionally shitty while the music is passable or not weird.

>>175407678
He gets tricked into killing his own daughter, which makes him go insane and become a demon.

>>175239840
It was a literal self insert cookie cutter I started when I was thirteen on RM2K then later 2003.
Started in my small town, then on a field trip to Austin my friends and I find a cult under a church of all places a satanic cult trying to sacrifice a "priestess" we knew to summon a demon.
After making it all the way north to Canada for some reason a fellow at a cathedral I think gives us bracelets to channel elements (not magic lol) also a summoner. Down to South America picking up party members along the way and Quezacotl in Mexico, we find a pirate girl with a boat allowing us to sail long the coast across the pacific to.. Europe?
Didn't get much further. Mostly stock tiles and Chars, using found MIDI.
Something about a thousand years ago there was an eight continent that had crystals (used in the bracelets) that advanced technology greatly in the isolated area, somehow leading to a war with a great daemon (created from the souls in hell). Of course a millenia later the daemon returns seeking to destroy the middle east with OMEGA and bring Lucifer to Earth (I knew nothing of SMT at the time)
So of course I, after traveling the globe, must acquire ULTIMA as my ancestor did to defeat Shinaroth, go to Hell via a lift elevator in the ocean and defeat Lucifer, then return to prevent the Apocalypse when the Superbeast (yes I imported the .mp3) tries to ascent to Heaven to kill God.
But then the tower all the assets were on died.
RIP Rebellion

>>175239840

Back in 2000, I made basically myself on an island and it was the standard 'something bad happens so you have to leave home' kind of story.

I made really good (at the time) battle animations, but I didn't really understand how to balance hero stats versus enemy stats.

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>>175426928
wow

>>175423419
That means you don't need to download the RTP as a library games can reference, in case there are missing files. In the oldest versions you couldn't play games without RM installed anyways. It meant smaller downloads if you assumed everyone already had most of the assests on their computer.

http://picosong.com/ipAy
Should I put this in my game somewhere?

>>175437094
It's your game. If you like the music and it fits then why not?

>>175437094
Sure why not?

>>175437094
is that clockwork orange?

Are there any witches in your world?

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>>175442578
Witch is one of the available classes, yes. Focused on status effects both positive and negative, with some but not many damaging abilities.

>>175442578
Yes
You can play as a few

How do you guys feel about default assets in a game?

>>175447547
Instant turn-off, but better than flat-out bad assets

>>175447743
I wish I could into spriting...

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You nerds going to be getting RPG Maker Fes for 3DS? I doubt it'll be worth the effort of making a full game one it, but it seems like it would be fun to play around with.

>>175448049
I'm getting it

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>>175447547
I can't do art so I use them, I don't plan on going commercial with any of my games or finishing any of my games so it doesn't feel like much of a priority for me.

I've tried getting into spriting, but I just would need to dedicate so much time to it just to get half as good as the default assets.

I kinda just enjoy mapping and writing.

>>175448049
I have a fetish for content creation apps on portable devices so I probably will
>Advance Wars
>Mega Man Powered Up
>Mario Maker
Level creation is probably my favorite part of developing games

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>>175448349
>Mario Maker
>for 3DS
It makes me sad making all these levels that nobody can play but me.

I hope Fes gets enough of a community that we'll actually be able to play a good amount of games.

>>175448461
I agree, they were one step away from making it objectively better than on console
I think Fes will get a community, but half of them are gonna be pirates

>>175448541
>but half of them are gonna be pirates
Well that's the 3DS for you, I definitely feel like a minority as someone who actually buys my 3DS games.

Is your main character devout?
Does that affect him/her during the journey?

>>175452735
Main character is not, but a few of the party members are, which is what opens up a few sidequests

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Dayum, I can't see shit down here! I hope this abandoned altar lets me power up by offering certain items found throughout the game. And I sure hope the area is interconnected so the player doesn't have to backtrack to the start of the game to go back there

>>175453927

CHECK UNDER YOUR CHAIR!

>>175453927

Is it possible to make such an area so that you can simply use an item in certain places to access it?

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>>175461642

That would actually be awesome! Like, accesing the "power up" hub area with a designated item. That's actually cool. Making a common even that takes you there when you use the item is the easy part, but going BACK to whatever position you used the item in is the hard part.

How does the game remember the place where you used the item? Maybe you can "get player position" and store it as a variable, and use it to get back to your world.

Here's more of my crypt level!

>>175462197

I sadly have no idea if that's possible. I haven't worked with any RPG maker for 16 years.

>>175462382

You should get back, famalam. It's the best hobby. I think I'm going to follow a different formula for my "power up hub areas". I'm going to scatter them throughout the game, and have them be interconnected to other maps via elevators so you can go back there.

I want the player to go "oh shit there's another power up thing! it's a special map!"

>>175462553

That's a good plan.

>>175462847

Enough about me. What's your plan, senpai? Come on, man, it's fun. If you have any free time at all, you should just get an old version and mess around with it just for the fun of the hobby itself

>>175462989

I don't have much of a plan, more like a short work that would probably qualify as 'proof of concept' or a 'demo' if it were of a longer product.

What would you recommend for an older version?

>>175463173

To be honest you could catch a sale on the latest version for PC (rpg maker MV) for 30 bucks on steam. It ain't much when you think about it. You could also just torrent a nice rpg maker 2003, XP if you're feeling artistic, or just play it safe and look for a sale on VX ace.

Whatever ideas you have, they are worth getting excited for! I'll play the shit out of your demo if you ever post it here.

>>175463419

To be honest, that's already my plan: to wait for MV to go on sale.

I can afford $80 but there are at least three major repairs coming up so my money must remain unmolested until the sale arises or the hard times are in the past.

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Who here /just scrapped 600 hours of work and is starting over for the third time/

Feels better than I thought

>>175463551

Fuck eighty dollars, familia. I got MV for 30 buckaroos, just be on the watch for sales. What gets you excited about your idea? Do you have a good idea for the "mood" or theme of it...? Or maybe you're excited to show really engaging characters? Or a badass combat mechanic?

>>175463814

That's cool, but remember to not be harsh on yourself. Your rythm of work and your pacing will ultimately follow your own decisions, just don't erase things out of insecurity or super high standards. Your hours of work will most definitely spawn something beautiful to play.

>>175463912

I'll be honest, I'm more focused on the story side. Combat mechanics are going to be my Waterloo at every stage of the process.

The struggle of the main character is probably what excites me most as she works to counteract both what has happened to her and what society has done to her as a result of what happened.

It'd probably be a story about trying to struggle against societal expectations and coping with the fact that that is a war that can be hard to win even with magic.

---

As it is, though, what I actually could probably produce if I began now and immediately (without much stoppage) continued would probably be a single chapter of the tale.

>>175464068
>>175463814

I agree with the guy telling you to not be insecure.

It's okay to 'stop working' on something, but don't delete past work. You might gain inspiration from examining it later.

>>175464296
Not to mention you can always build on what you've already done, or just alter things to what you like rather then wiping the slate clean.

Or maybe you just want a fresh start, thats fine too!

>>175464439

Even if he totally fresh starts, my experience as a writer tells me that destroying your old work entirely is something done to the detriment of the self.

>>175464068
The scope was simply too big. I went from open world RPG to a more linear story driven adventure type game and now I'm throwing all that out to too, to make an arena or endless dungeon type game.

I want to make a game with one clearly defined concept that I fine tune until it works well instead of fifty different things you can do that feel half assed. If that makes sense. That was a valuable lesson even if it took several hundred hours to learn. It helps that I now have tons of graphical assets and some lore to start me off aswell.

>>175464787

Well that'll make you evolve, but part of me is still curious to have a peek at your open world project right now... You feel me?

It's a difficult hobby to balance. We must DREAM BIG but still remain grounded... But god damn it I love it. I'm about to start my first main hub area, i'm going to put genuine love on this thing.

>>175464931
Perhaps the most depressing part is I don't really have much to show for this time spent. I feel like the last two or three months or so I literally just sat and redesigned areas and added flavour shit like birds and fish in the rivers, as if subconsciously trying to avoid the hell that is writing branching dialogues. It's still basically a walking simulator. The story/main quest was maybe 10% done.

Everyone always discourages you from trying to make a gigantic game as your first project, and in hindsight it was a bit retarded, but you do learn a lot along the way.

>>175465602

I feel ya. It takes mental strength to tackle big projects and big challenges like that. I don't want to go around being a smartass, but I'd rather put the project away in a flash drive USB and just forget about it rather than scrapping it completely.

>>175465602

Admittedly, you learn a lot more from falling off of Everest (if you survive) than you do falling onto your knees while walking on a soft floor.

The fact that you had the ambition to try such a larger project (and the ability to keep working on it for such a long time) speaks well to your ability to succeed at anything you try so long as your willingness to learn matches your effort.

>>175465825
For sure, it's always nice to be able to go back, even just for nostalgia. I'll probably stay in the same project anyway going forward because I've got some cool events in there I'd rather not remake from scratch.
>>175466417
I hope so anon.

Is .wav, a file that can be used in RPG makers?

>>175467825
It CAN, but that doesn't mean it SHOULD. It works for sound effects, but don't go using it for music.

>>175467825
I think you need .ogg files which I believe you can make online on converter sites or with audacity which is a free audio editor

>>175468458

Would you recommend a way to create non-.wav music, then?

I'm kind of a faggot and I'm afraid of relying on other people's work where not necessary to do so.

>>175283439
>>175285247

So I've been trying to get to work on your music ever since the request, but every time I get started I'm called aside by bad family health issues which kinda kills my motivation. I'm gonna ask that you please be patient for a few more days. Sorry, I don't usually take this long under normal conditions...

Also prison anon, I want to clarify something. Since this last piece is a final boss track, do you still want it to sound like pseudo-battle music (I say pseudo because of the context of it), or just a mournful type piece? Something that still has the "end of game" last fight feeling or something that has "really sad moment" feeling? Not that the two are mutually exclusive but maybe you know what I mean?

>>175468463
It is almost certainly the best option, but you don't NEED it. Ace at least also takes mp3, wav, and wma.

>>175468614
As >>175468463 suggests, Audacity is a good option. Some audio players like Foobar2000 and iirc Winamp have options to convert files they can play into other forms of media as well.

>>175468745

Good to know you're still alive. Take your time.

>>175468962

I grabbed audacity, I thought it was just some sort of program people used to sell their audio books, but then I realized that that was audible.

Anyone ever made a "runner" type minigame in rpgmaker?
I'm thinking:
>a "wall" of events that move from the bottom of the map and up, game over on player/event touch
>different kinds of powerups like increased speed, move through objects
>jumping (maybe contextual on certain tiles)
>moving platforms
>different kinds of traps with timing
>turrets/projectiles you have to dodge

I feel like all of this should be pretty easy to implement with events but I wonder how it would run with all that shit going on simultaneously

>>175470103

I'm pretty sure someone made an actual action game once, so a 'runner' wouldn't be hard, but it'd probably be a bit clunky, I'd imagine.

Then again, most runner games are made by the lowest bidder so you'd probably not do half bad compared to some.

>>175470102
I'm a bit curious as to what you're using to make your wavs in the first place. I'd think any music creation program would have the option to export to common formats like mp3, at least.

>>175470876
I wonder if it would work with the standard grid-based movement or if pixel movement would be more comfortable. I'm thinking grid based might actually be better because it's easier to tell exactly where you are, how far you are from a potential danger and whether you're actually standing on that platform etc.

>>175463814
Same. I'm scrapping a ~6 month project, and starting new today.

>>175472131
What lead you to make that decision? Did you bite off more than you wanted to chew like me?

>>175472065
Nah, grid-based collisions are definitely worse than having them more granular. It's just much more difficult, of course.

>>175472403
Alright, I'll definitely try both approaches and see how it feels.

>>175471859

One of the sticky links linked a thing for making 8 bit music.

>>175463814
I have scrapped so many projects that I've lost count. Some with like 3 hours put into them, some with hundreds of hours. It's kind of depressing to go through my project folders for my GM:S and RPGMaker as it feels like a graveyard.

**PSA**

Don't use .mp3 files for your projects. At all.

.mp3 is not a free file format to use and requires royalties. .mp3 also cannot loop seamlessly, so you will have a gap at the start of a loop.

Use .ogg. It's free, open source, loops perfectly, and you can use custom loop points via the tags with rpgmaker so you can have an intro and loop the rest of the song in one file.

>>175472314
A big technical reason is that I was getting fed up with MV's frame rate instability. Every other playtest had the perfectly-smooth scrolling background stuttering at noticeable points.

And for a much less glamorous reason, I was getting bored with the project. But this time, "I swear this is a project I'm going to want to finish".

>>175472815

>royalties
Ew.

Is .wav like that too?

I'm a student of the Hebrew Masteries, so royalties are a great way to get me to switch to open source.

>>175472815

Thanks doctor.

>>175472815
>>175473927

I can't find any information on .wav files so I assume that they're safe, but if you plan on making your game commercial, I'd stay safe with open source alternatives.

Also keep in mind that you don't need to pay for .mp3 licensing unless your game sells over 5000 copies. Of course you might say "My game will never sell that many", however in the off chance that it does, you'll be forced to pay a $2,500 premium. So it's better to avoid that situation entirely (also considering that .mp3 is an inferior format to .ogg in almost all regards anyway)

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I just recorded myself, heavily edited it and made an NPC talk with audio in my game. This is going to be a fucking cringefest, but hey, I wanted to imitate dark souls and so I did. Here's a vocaroo of the line and a screenshot.

Prepare to cringe.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0tEdJgQpGen

>>175476963

One should always plan for the best and worst eventualities. Success often carries as any foibles as failure, despite the increased benefits.

So I'd go to .ogg over .mp3 any how.

>>175477090

You didn't do bad at emulating the style of at least one person's talking in Dark Souls.

Your audio quality isn't garbage.

Are you the guy from yesterday with the demo that went to now loading and never stopped?

>>175477284

Yeah!

I wanted to show you guys what little progress I had made, but couldn't do it! So I said fuck it, i'm gonna make some more progress and hopefully upload a valid demo in a while.

I'm still on the fence about these voice lines. It's strange to find them in RPG maker, but if I do it well, and better than this, it could be a interesting positive addition to these "curious" NPCs. It's borderline plagiarism, but fuck it, I'm having fun.

>>175477493

Here's hoping your efforts yield fruit.

If nothing else, you might teach us new things whether you succeed or fail at your plans.

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>>175478016

We're about to find out if the public (basically you guys) find the voice lines to be:

A. complete cringefest
B. positive addition

Here's my hub area that I made today! It's basically an attempt at firelink shrine with a couple of twists of mine. This is where the heroes find rest and other NPCs!

>>175478265

The major question there is how well you can speak and whether you do it for multiple characters, really.

Bon chance.

>>175478265
>>175479445
If your project is small, you can go to a place like behindthevoiceactors and recruit some talented people for free.

However, that's literally the last step of gamedev and you shouldn't do it until your game is *done.*

>>175479870

Because you don't really know enough about the project to give proper voice directions if the game isn't finished yet, right?

>>175480434
Not him but no. It's because you would completely waste people's valuable time if you decided to recruit people for voice acting (unpaid) then never finish it. Gameplay and story should always be done first. Then graphics. Then sfx/music. Then VA.

>>175480586

Upon hearing your thinking, I see what you mean. Admittedly, if they're working for free, all of their time is a waste.

>>175480434
A VA can bust out a script far faster than you can finish a game. Also, you want your writing set in stone. The less time of theirs you waste with re-writes, the better.

>>175481001

A VA can bust out a script faster than I can even start a game.

I spent like this whole day trying to figure out basic shit to get started.

>>175480586

Dev here. I would never request people's work for free! Thank you for the website suggestion. I will check it out! If I requested people's services, I would pay them via Paypal. I was thinking 10€ per minute of dialogue. Not a bad deal, huh?

This is my plan for VA:
- Record placeholder audios like the previous one myself
- When and IF the project is looking long and good, pay money to people and provide them with the placeholder and script so they have an idea of what I'm after

>>175480826
>Admittedly, if they're working for free, all of their time is a waste.

Correct. That's why studios are able to work on several aspects at once. All the employees are getting paid either hourly or by the amount of work done.
With really small indie teams (I'm talking one or two people), outsourced people are typically either working for free, or get a lump sum/percentage of sales after the game is done. Game never gets done = no money, wasted time, wasted talent.

That's why I strongly encourage either doing things in a specific order or paying the person up front.

>>175481083

Actually 10€ per minute is total garbage.
I would pay them 10€ per "piece" of dialogue (think 30 seconds, or a specific event)

>>175481083
I wasn't the anon who requested the website.
>I was thinking 10€ per minute of dialogue. Not a bad deal, huh?

It really depends honestly. It's not that great of a deal. If you want someone to just talk into a headset with silly voices and minimal post processing/you do it, I guess it's not too bad though.
If you want something that sounds halfway decent with above average equipment, good voice work, and them to mix it/them to give you a more mixable recording to process yourself, that is not enough money.

Basically I'm saying if you want the quality of Castlevania SotN dub, 10 euros a minute isn't bad. Otherwise it's not enough at all.

>>175481561

Well then if my project is worth it, I would be ready to spend good money. I'm thinking maybe this would be a better deal:

- Up to 100€ for a single character
(not that many lines, just a couple of paragraphs for different encounters)

That being said, if I drop a hundred buckaroos on a fucking character, the voicework better be good shit. I don't even know if it would be worth it for an RPG maker game.

Here's the first line I recorded before.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s005QGtkjXNl

>>175481920
>That being said, if I drop a hundred buckaroos on a fucking character, the voicework better be good shit. I don't even know if it would be worth it for an RPG maker game.
This is why I don't recommend voice acting for small studios with no financial backing.
Voice acting is something that can literally break a game. Good voice acting is a nice touch, but bad voice acting can really hamper the experience.
If you can't afford good quality VA, then keep it mute. Lack of voices are rarely criticized where as bad voices can rip your game to shreds.

>>175482184

Aww fuck. There goes muh dark souls plagiarized idea! We'll see how well everything mixes with these lines I'm trying to record.

>>175482390
Just try to stay realistic, Anon. I know I'm being a party pooper, but there is no point in wasting money on a cheap VA who may or may not give you quality work. There's also no point in focusing on VA when you don't have a game yet.
There's also the extremely large chance that you'll abandon your project (no if ands or buts. It happens to everyone) and it would be a shame if you wasted your money or someone else's time with nothing to show for it.

>inb4 I'm just being an asshole. I know I am but it's the truth.

>>175482652

Nah, it's good to hear that. Stay with our feet to the ground. But still, I feel confident going forward, I want to dream bigger than my previous projects. Hopefully I can find the sweetspot where I can continue progress without losing interest.

>>175482652

Without both the realism fag posters and the DREAM BIG fag posters, we would be lost either in the clouds or in the slums.

Your voice is no less valid than the idealism fag who thinks he can do anything, and we need to hear both of you for the truth both of you speak.

If you actually have a finished or near-finished game, and it's not shit (or even if it is, given some things I've seen) you can probably pull off a kickstarter for shit like voice acting.

>>175484083

A kickstarter can get you money for relatively little cause, so...it mostly depends on your ability to sell shit.

I'm not very interested in seeing voiced lines, but I wish devs would always have voiced battle grunts. It gives a lot more life to battle scenes.

>ei!
>hyaa!
>teyah!
>iyaaan!!~ aahn~

>>175485636

Voice battle noises in Breath of Fire 3 were a really nice touch.

That feel when you know hear the crit coming and you're like awwwwwwww yiss.

>>175485882

We've come a long way from 'Slam', haven't we?

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>>175306160
Okay

Hello friends. Could someone suggest a good RPG Maker to start out with.

>>175490679
Join the rm2k master race!

(Don't actually get 2k. You'll probably want MV or VX Ace.)

>>175490679

Try VX Ace Lite. If you like it buy/pirate regular VX Ace. I'm using this version for 3 years already and I'm satisfied with it.
Or get MV(I think there's a demo) - the newest one, because it's still being supported with new plugins and such.

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Is there any reason to get MV if I don't plan on using the multi platform stuff? Or should I just stick with VX Ace.

Can I get some honest like non-marketer reasons to switch to MV?

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>>175491572
Much thanks friends

>>175491974
>better resolution/scaling control
There are resolution changers for VX Ace, but they're all wonky to some degree. Mostly a big deal if you're using pixel art graphics.
>active plugin community
Aside from some very specific scripts, the quality and variety of plugins is better than Ace. Have a browse through here and see if anything seems interesting: mvplugins.com
>built in sideview and front view battles
Sideview is basically rm2k3's system, so that's convenient if that's the battle system you want. No ATB though, it's still Ace's turn based system.
>event searcher
The same as the one from 2k3. Can be very useful.
>better character generator
Much better than Ace's abomination.
>native mouse support
It's pretty basic and there are Ace scripts that do better. However there's also MV plugins that extend it past what Ace can do.

Really the biggest thing is the plugin community, rather than anything the engine offers. Most scripters have moved over to MV.

I'm at a point where I will be soon starting to design the final dungeon of my game(wow, time sure flies) and I'm having some serious thoughts about it. Should I just make a regular dungeon, like the others in my game, which is about 0,5-1 hour long with some puzzles as always or should I make a really big and long one, with some new mechanics along the way? I want to end my game with a bang, but at the same time - I don't want to strain the players too much right before the finale, especially because the road to this dungeon is already moderately action-packed. I would be grateful for some advices.

>>175498863
Very often, I hate when the final dungeon is exceptionally more difficult than the rest of the game.

This is because by that point, I'm likely more interested in the plot's conclusion, and possibly sick of the gameplay.

>>175498863
If the final dungeon feels/plays like the other ones then I am a little disappointed.

>>175498863
Length is basically the least interesting way to make an area stick out. I would rather err on the side of too short - the last thing you want to do is bore people just as it's getting real.

You can make it seem BIG without making it take longer to traverse, though. Like climbing a tower with elevators that take you up tens of floors at a time, or something.

Bumping with a boss battle test, work in progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRC5DwwHovk

>>175268416
>MC is a royal guard that came back to life after being a ghost for some decades
>black mage grill is an alchemist in a little village
>archer/support is the daughter of king's most thrusted man
>thief is member of a gang that was taken away from his family by the gang leader when he was just a child

les bumperables

Is it possible to make a game with RPG Maker without it having that cheap RPG Maker "feeling" and "look"?

>>175514215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsBSRfu-6k4

Yes. The trick is 'original assets'

>>175239840
It was made in RM2k back during my Deus Ex/dystopian phase. The setting is a post-apocalyptic dystopian world where the sun was blown up by a terrorist organization. The world was chaotic for a time after the sun's dying, until all the countries gathered together to form a world government. This newly formed government developed an organic super-AI meant to monitor all illegal activities and act on them if necessary. Over time, the AI gradually gained consciousness and became mostly useless. Meanwhile, a powerful resistance organization rose up to take advantage of the opportunity and began construction of a time machine on the moon, over which the government currently has no control. In response, the government has been developing genetically engineered super-soldiers based on the organic AI's DNA. This is around the time the game begins. The protagonist works for the government, of course.

>>175498863
It should definitely be a culmination of all the other dungeons put together, while sticking to the dungeon's theme. Everything the player has learned so far has lead to this.

>>175502349
>>175503009
>>175507315
>>175517119

Well, I guess I'll just have to balance it somehow. I think that making a normal-sized dungeon,but with some nice gimmick that I didn't use in dungeons before should do the trick. I also wanted to make this dungeon more exploration-based at first, so maybe I'll try to combine these ideas.

I'll try to draw the layout on a piece of paper and see if it may work.

>>175514215
For people unfamiliar with RM, don't use default graphics INCLUDING edits.

For people very familiar with RM, don't use default sounds and menus, too.

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>>175472815
>mp3 royalties

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Speaking of original assets, I had an idea for a scribbled-in notebook looking menu - it'd need real doodles and writing scanned in to look decent, and ideally some kind of animation to it as well, but it was fun messing with it.

How do your menus look? Anyone want to share?

>>175514314
I don't want to defend Millennium games but they weren't all made within a year of each other That's just when they were released on steam.

That developer has been selling their games from their website since before Steam was around.