/dowg/ Dawn of War / WH40k general

This unpacking is taking forever

just finished unpacking here we go

>>175168414
Why isn't it up on piratebay yet? Thought they'd get it a couple hours ahead

Is it fun online? From what I could see of beta gameplay it didn't seem to put much into basebuilding

>>175172987
its quite hectic for 3v3 battles are fun, base building is a minor aspect in this game, more about map control

>>175172987
It's a MOBA with some RTS elements. We're actually regressing.

Where is my torrent for the Moba?

When will the crack be released, slides?

Dead game already? Sad.

>>175180913
>denuvo

>>175168414
>basically no threads on /v/
>/dowg/ dead too

Is it shit or is everyone busy playing? Not sure yet if I should get it. I'd mostly play SP probably

Why are people comparing it to mobas?

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>>175181981
Because it was heavily inspired by them, the game doesnt feel like a "Dawn of War" at all, rather a very bad starcraft mod.

>>175181981
heroes (warcraft 3), invisible grass (dota 2 doesn't have this), imaginary lanes (they're retarded), towers that prevent progression (maybe the only point), central hub that needs killing (equivalent to central building needing to be killed before losing in other Relic games)

basically retards

How's the Singleplayer?`Not a big MP fan so playing the campaign and against AI would be my main interest

>>175181943
There has been a designated shitting on DoW thread every single day for the past fucking week. And at least 3 right now last time I checked /v/.

>>175182681
the "launch thread" was pretty comfy--it just died

>>175182681
I checked before I made that post and there was only one thread about it on /v/ and that was more related to PC gaming in general.
Maybe I missed some.

>>175180913
>>175181875
tfw too poor for 60 dollarydoo games nowadays

>>175182990
it's roughly $45 on keysites.
still a good amount of money though

>>175182990
>>175183104

It's not even worth that much, lmao

>>175182990
Pay 60 bucks for dota amout of content

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who here dow2

>>175183385
So the consensus is that they tried to turn it into starcraft, right? Because I sure as fuck dont want to play that.

Well I can still replay the coop campaign in 2 and then bitch about how shitty retribution is.

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>>175183291
You need to be big git to play 60 when you can pay 30. You git

>>175183530
Nigga why didn't you play the open beta?

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Yet another mediocre 40k game. When will the suffering end?

>>175183579
I thought it was for preorders only. Guess I fucked up.

Also lately I just dont really play betas and alphas and early access shit. I dont want to be an upaid tester.

My main gripe from the beta. Was that as the reviews says it takes the best from DoW1 and DoW2 and blends them togheter.

I felt that it didn't put enough emphasis on basebuilding and cover mechanics are non existant. Other than shield domes, which are stupid. Sine rushing one squad out to the shield immediately cuts the map in half.

>>175183760
Better get on that 2 hour steam refund horse then.
Unit control is more similar to Starcraft but you have to avoid deathballs lest you want to lose everything to a single strike.

>>175183530

No, they tried to turn it into warcraft 3 and failed horribly because you don't get the fine unit control of warcraft 3 with the stupid squad system.

Every other RTS plays better than this, and every other moba plays better than this. This game is some horrible middle ground that fails at all things. It's all the bad parts of both genres combined into one disastrous combination that won't even please 40k fans because its so barebones.

Someone have a good torrent or cheap sale price for the full DOW1 series?

>>175183895
>enough emphasis on basebuilding
I think there's a decent amount of planning required as the structure placements generally enforce the areas you control.
If you were just building behind towers you were doing it wrong.

>>175183930
Yeah thats actually a good idea. I havent gotten used to the option of refunding shit. Thanks.

>>175184024
Well that sounds depressing.

>>175184128
>Well that sounds depressing.
Don't listen that git, he is just butthurt he got BTFO on /v/ of all boards.

>>175184115

You build like 3 buildings in a game. That's not basebuilding. That's so far off the mark of what people who like basebuilding want its almost deliberately malicious.

>>175184239
It's not for everyone, just like any game. A lot of Dawn of war fans were expecting something and relic game us a pile of shit instead.
Of course some people will eat that shit up but others will protest and voice their opinion.

>>175184128
As the others have said, try it and if you find it shit, get a refund, if not have fun.

>>175184351
Yeah, I guess they should've added unit supply for that supply depot spam for walling.

>>175184351
Aye, also you need to tech up the main building anyway. So when it is done being forced to build a production building doesn't add much.

Also tanks handle like ass. Gets stuck all over the map, and sometimes backs up into combat. Is there rear armor in this game?

>>175184024
>>175184438
>gets so btfo'd on /v/ that he has zero context for any of his arguments
kek

How's the campaign so far?

Is anyone streaming?

Can I completely disable chat in multiplayer?

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>>175184691
Different poster to the guy you replied to before.
Sorry to disappoint. I haven't been "btfo'd" on /v/

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>>175184967
>streaming

>>175184796
Heard it mostly functioned as a tutorial for multiplayer. But I have not gotten to it yet.

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>Martellus replaced by Balthazar

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>>175185375
Seems like a slow introduction to all the units, while some story bits are thrown in and you navigate pretty maps.

Campaign is mediocre, the new system for missions is worse than the previous one tbqh

>>175185627
Balthazar is a cogboy?

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>there are people who actually spent real world $$$ on this shitty game
>there are people who will spend $$$ on the crack foe this shitty game
>there are people who will wait for the crack to be released for free

>>175188714
it's a pretty good game tho

>>175184967
buzzcutpsycho is alright, doing 3v3s though

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>>175168414
What went wrong bros?

>>175181943
Apparently single player AI is shit so...

>>175189708
valve not weighing <1 hour reviews differently

>>175189708

It's not dow1 2.0

>>175182543
>invisible grass (LoL and HotS have this), imaginary lanes (both moba and RTS maps have this)

>>175183530
Sort of. They made it more like Starcraft but also more like MOBAs, and the elements don't combine well. Warcraft 3 is probably the most similar, but it's almost completely off in execution and play.

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>>175190276
>HotS

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The lack of voice work bothers me.
Feels like they put more voice work into one unit from dow2, than this entire game.

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>rewarding the developers who chose to make Dawn of Starcraft: MOBA boogaloo

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I love it when an established RTS series decides to follow a bold new vision.

I also love esports and can't get enough of them.

>>175192010
dow3 doesn't even have observer mode

>>175192529
>>175192010
It has replays.

CoH2 got observer mode so DoW3 probably will as well.

>>175190787
It has just as much voice work as previous games...

>>175168414
I like multiplayer even if they campaign is bad its a shame the game seems to be a flop new modes and mechanics could of made it good

Every time I see someone doesn't bash dow 3 it's nothing more than them claiming they just 'like' something about it.

I'm sorry. I wanted to hold out and keep a positive look on it despite the beta. But shit man. This whole thing seems so half assed. The way they tackle the lore, the voices, the dumbed down mechanics of both an moba AND rts.

I honestly seems like they slapped a wh40k skin on some stupid e sports wannabe.

Game become e sports from being varied enough to warrant highly competitive play. You don't design a fucking game around being e sports. What if you come out with less than a game?

FUCK, I've had this on my wishlist for a fucking year. I've stood by it EVEN while people complained about the beta. But 60$?? for this??

>>175192780
read: good voice work.

The direction is more straight and serious. Its like CoD campaign in terms of tone and about as much gravitas. No angry marines with righteous fury and nothing as intentionally funny. The eldar are just as dry and with little mysticism. Orks are somewhat okay but are unintentionally made more hillarious buy their higher-pitch voices - its like an army of Kermit the frog.

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>>175194632
I would pay 120$ for this. It is that good.

>>175194632
But they explicitly said they didn't design the game for esports!

>>175195952
Well it is a multiplayer focused game. And the game mode is a complete disaster.

>>175189708
kids

>MOBAs spawned out of the RTS genre
>obviously thus have some similar aspects to RTS'
>every other RTS is now a MOBA because it shares some aspects

And the similarities are pretty low, too. You don't have AI controlled spawns, you don't have any hero progression, you control more than a single unit and so on.

But your hero units have skills and there's a power core (apparently because of the name that's different from a game where the victory condition is to destroy the HQ) so clearly it is a MOBA.

Not even saying that there aren't any legit complaints, but if you scroll over the top rated comments it's mostly retarded shit that is simply false.

>>175189876
well that is not so very great. thanks for the feedback

Anyone have a list of all the elites so far in game? I can only find the ones that were in the beta.

anybody in EU want to go stompin' togevva?

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>Imperial Guardsmen are in the single player
>No MP IG

Any idea how to surrender ? If you want quit it says Quiting without surrendering will forfeit all exp. BUT HOW DO I DO THIS

>>175198556
guess they didn't get it in in time after the open beta feedback

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https://youtu.be/zT_vcm7eKIc

>Only Gabe,Jonah, and Diomedes are confirmed to be back
>Avitus was the heretic
>Aramus and Thaddeus are on a crusade???
>Cyrus MIA
>Tarkus MIA (who should be a fucking captain of the second company)


The hidden issues

>>175199072

>the game will probably fail so the Blood Ravens legacy is basically finished

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>no sale for DoW1/2 prior to DoW3's release

>>175199413
Bundle Stars has them on sale right now

>>175198789
>>175198789
But info about surrender was already in Beta.

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Welp this game will just give us more eldar and macha porn hopefully

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>Be hyped for DoW3
>Actually get around to playing it.

Well.
At least I'll always have Dark Crusade.
They can't fuck that up or take it away from me.

This Balthazar dude lacks something

Loving the game but it saddens me that Diomedes doesn't have his old VA

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I feel like the people who like it are playing and the people who hate it are bombing the steam review page and complaining elsewhere. Really love the game so far, the negative things i've heard almost entirely come down to opinions and preferences; the game is mostly mechanically solid which is a damn miracle in this day and age.

>>175200725
t. shill

It never occurred to me until the beta, but there doesn't seem to be a great reason to make a new Dawn of War. The Warhammer universe never really changes, so unlike other RTS sequels they can't include anything really new, they're stuck using the same units and armies as they always have and now the gameplay itself has even regressed to the first entry in the series because there's nowhere to go.

The "MOBA" gameplay additions are minute and don't do enough to disguise the fact that this is a thinly veiled rehash of their past works. Relic needs to get out of this rut and start creating original content again.

>>175200794
I rest my case.

>>175200794
kekold

>>175200984
>he "MOBA" gameplay additions are minute
I can't say I agree. If you removed the towers/shields you'd be readjusting the movement speed of all armies, or drastically altering the map sizes, or something.
Unless you want the slowest of all gameplay that results from the defensive meta adjusting to a game that supports rushes through unseen corridors.

>>175201486
>Unless you want the slowest of all gameplay that results from the defensive meta adjusting to a game that supports rushes through unseen corridors.
I'm imagining TvT in Brood War and can't say I have a problem with this.

Guys, should I get this game of buy the medicines for my mom. I mean, I love her and all but she will survive some weeks without her insuline...

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wtf do I just wait around?

>>175202526
Huh? No you're meant to save the scouts.

>>175203032
Well, if I intend to be corrupt I just have to partake in zero gameplay.
feels wrong

There have been many DOW games and expansions

But nothing has yet to surpass soul storm with ultimate apocalypse mod

>>175189708

It's the middle of a work day, the only people who have reviewed it so far are NEETs who hate everything that isn't weebshit

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>>175168414
all they had to do was make an up-to-date, balanced dow1 and try to implement features that make it more realistic if anything.

i was already livid about "dow"2 and still no actual dawn of war comes out.

why.

why not just make an mmorpg or fps. who gives a shit.

take the original game and make it better or fuck off.

>>175204505

We live in dark times

40k will never get a good game again

>The final mission you fight a daemon
>his minions arent actual demons
>its fucking RESKINNED ORKS

>>175205321
it's just not in the budget

>>175205321

There are some Bloodletters but yes it is fucking reskinned orks

total war has become shit as well.
campaign is absolute fucking garbage.
everyone is becoming dumber and everything is becoming shittier, so don't be TOO hard on yourselves.

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I wanna hug Governor Derosa!

>>175205321

The single player fucking blows

You thought Retributions half assed same campaigns were bad atleast those had different stories and dialogue

>>175168414
how do i deal with the multiplayer anxiety?

i only have that shit in street fighter and 1v1 rts games. i forced myself to play my first match earlier and i stomped my opponent (i played orc he played eldar) but i somehow cant bring myself to continue

send help

>>175206586
is it really anxiety or are you just stressed to be locked into a 30-60 minute fight?
there's no point in mewling over losing or winning, as there's a large number of better and worse players out there

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>>175200725
How is that a miracle? Are you such a brainwashed moron that you will pay $60 for a mediocre game? So many small, simple aspects that should be included at launch are missing. All the money and time that they had and it's not even worth playing over ultimate apocalypse soulstorm or FOK dark crusade.

Gave it a negative review based on the singleplayer alone. It's so damn lazy and uninspired I don't know how they thought it was up to the standards of the previous 2 games.

>>175207693
name some of these small simple aspects please

So, how is DoW 3 so far?

Worth the heavy price point?

>>175209429
sounds like the campaign isn't good so I'd guess not

>>175200984
>never really changes
They pushed "SHIT'S CHANGING" all year so far, bringing back Magnus, creating a new Eldar god, reviving Guilliman, bringing Mortarion back in a few months at the latest and a bunch of other things.

If another DoW ever comes around, they might have new shit.

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>no Land Raiders
>no Rhinos
>no Razorbacks

What is this shit?

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>>175209767
Hey at least Whirlwind is finally usefull ! And giant robots serve the purpose of Land Raiders now.

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>>175205663

marines move fucking fast with the nikes doctrine

>>175210054
>whirlwind wasn't useful in dow
i 1v2ed two attacking player armies in multiplayer in part because of my whirlwind.
you just need a choke point.

gorkanauts w is fucking ridiculous man

it takes like 80% health off the power core

How do i run this game in proper fullscreeN/ borderless windowed is annoying as shit

>>175189708

Word on the street is the campaign is terrible.

The multiplayer isn't very good. It is just a mob the other side with more units slog. The whole thing is kind of boring. Even if the more starcraft game is what you wanted, it doesn't even do that very well.

>>175212085
>borderless windowed is annoying as shit
that's a first

know if anyone is streaming the map editor?

>>175212250
Sometimes borderless windowed doesnt play nice with multiple monitors.

>>175204505
Literally this.

It's all they had to do. All anyone really wants is a modern Dawn of War 1.

Why can't they just give that to us?

Well they cut a deal with TB, maybe he'll do a video. Too bad he doesn't really like the beta to begin with.

https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/lifting-the-sega-boycott

>>175205663
Actually, what happened to her in canon after she became Governour? Was she gibbed between Chaos Rising and Retribution?

Give me regular, not shitty gamemodes, Last Stand, some more factions, 3 is a fucking joke, and DoW 3 suddenly has some potential. It's clearly my least favourite entry in the series, didn't buy after playing 10 hours in the beta. I'll keep an eye on it and hope Relic get their shit together and do the correct things.

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>Really fun! Even better at release than the beta and I loved the beta!
>Have played the original Dawn of War for some time and I have to say, this release is a major improvement to the faults of the old games!
>major improvement
>check his profile
>Furfaggot
like pottery

Now that Relic has completely abandoned the idea of 40k RTS games, what's the best mod for DoW1?

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>The people complaining about "muh moba" are the same people who enjoyed the 0-macro scale of DoW2
Really zapps my noggin

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>Warhammer game

>Three factions at release

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAH

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if they want to salvage this, they have to add shit
and finetune shit.

make graphics grittier.
add set of 10 10% chance sync kills
add animations to units.
swap things out for better things.
that kind of shit.

>>175197524
>but your heroes have skills
Someone should inform Blizzard that Warcraft (1994) was a moba 9 years before dota existed.

HOW COULD WE HAVE BEEN SO BLIND!

>>175199072
The second company isn't involved in every conflict ever.

>Gabe, Jonah, Diomedes, Macha, Taldeer, Ronahn and Gorgutz are all confirmed back

>>175217547
Exactly four units in WC1 had skills.

>>175206586
Just play 3v3s, then down to 2v2s then finally play 1v1s.

>>175207693
The game has all the features I would expect from a AAA RTS at launch.

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>the screaming gretchin that flies up when his kan explodes

>>175217679
You mean that MOBA only had 4 champions? I'm glad things have progressed since then.

But fine, take Warlords Battlecry 3 (Warlords Battlecry 1 = first RTS with heroes) or Warcraft III then. Both had strong heroes with active abilities.

>>175214336
>playing the man and not the ball
A favourite tactic of shills.

>>175214139
I always knew TB was shit at RTSs, but watching him play DoW3 was fucking painful.

The guy is absolutely retarded. Just dove in totally blind not knowing what units counter what, not knowing damage types, not even knowing which units can detect. Floating 1000's of resources even in mid game.

And to think he used to run an esports team.

>they cut a deal with TB
I know I just finished calling him a shitter, but he is an honourable shitter. I very much doubt he would take money to cover these games. He's already well-off anyway.

>>175218675
Forgot to mention, I was watching him on twitch. But still he was fucking terrible. Also basically didn't micro anything then complained when his army got wiped, then he complained about "terrible pathfinding" because a stunned unit wasn't moving.

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So playing the campaign has only confirmed my prediction for best gal.

Jain Zar is too scary, Solaria is too bitchy. Taldeer is a disembodied soul in a mech.

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>>175219439
Gretchin-chan is CUTE

>>175218023
You'd eat shit if I put in on a plate in front of you.

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>Dawn of War III
>3 factions
Is that the joke?

today i learned that realism is important.

All I've done so far is play the first two tutorials and watch the trailer a dozen times.

What are the new elite units?

Is anyone else having an issue with the continue from mission debriefing button staying locked? I already loaded the last part of the 1st mission and finished it once.

>>175221912
realism is the foundation for all believable fantasy/scifi

>>175222342
idk but you can see a 15 minute rundown in the twitch vod the day or day before they started the open beta

>>175222810
The ones that weren't in the beta.

>>175222902
yes, it was a special copy played at their HQ

>>175222342
>Orks
Stormboyz (2) jump and have a kamikaze explode ability
Kommando (3) stealths, traps, and shotguns
Gorkanaut (9) imagine solarias missile launch, but its a gatling gun, also a big stun/damage aoe ability
>Eldar
Striking Scorpions (2) stealth and jump to assassinate the shit out of people
Autarch (5) can fly, but disables his attacks. has a tornado thing and drops a grenade below him
Warp Spiders (5) what youd expect, have a slow mine, and actually open a mini-webway temporarily when they teleport
>Spess Mahreens
Chaplain Diomedes (4) aoe buffing tank
Ranged termies (6) have a cyclone missile barrage and can teleport
Venerable dread (7) plasma cannon, can fling nearby units away
The fuckhueg knight in the trailer (9) has a shield, a chainsword sweep, and a kinda snipe shot with charges

>>175214237
The governing spire of that hive planet goes ultrafucked by Kyras' guys, so it's safe to assume that she probably died.

>>175223191
Can I take two knights at once?

>>175223636
Yes. But they both cost a good bit.

>>175223191
You missed the other Wraithlord with the dual brightlances.

>>175223191
Does anyone else find it really weird that some of these are elite choices? Like I get the Autarch and Gorkanaut, but wouldn't stuff like the Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders just be regular troops?

Just seems like an odd decision to me. I mean, would something like a Harlequin Soltaire or something make more sense?

>>175223824
Its been on the site for months

>>175224087
Same with the Meganobz

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>>175223935
The game is half assed trash. You aren't the only one to notice, no.

>>175223935
They want to make harlequins a separate force

>>175223935
We're talking about the game where Space Marines don't have Rhinos or Land Raiders in any shape. Don't question it.

>>175223935
Striking Scoprions make sense as elites because they are considered elites in the tabletop. Where it breaks down is that Howling Banshees are also elites but not in the game.

Warp Spiders on the other hand are just Fast Attack, so why they are elites in DoW III makes no sense.

>>175222496
I just replayed the first mission from the start and am still getting this issue, anyone else?

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>>175195000
>I would pay 120$ for this. It is that good.
So would you buy a second copy for a poorfag then?

>>175207693
How is FOK on DC? Does it run well and can you play it with friends?
Mainly just interested in how stable it is because UA always seems to crash on my friends and I.

>>175225478
>>175223935
Yeah, that was my issue, it just seems like some units were put into different categories arbitrarily. I've the impression that the people who made this game didn't actually are about the material, and just made a unit fit whatever dumb role they thought was necessary.

Prime example being lascannons not working like they fucking should.

>>175225107
It's kind of sad that I think they would seriously consider this. I mean Harelequins are cool, but even in TT they are just an "allied" army. They really don't have much to justify a full force unless they blatantly make shit up or half ass it. Which is highly likely.

How do you unlock the classic Macha skin?

>>175226345
>He doesnt want to play as an army of space clowns
Sad!

>>175205663
SHE'S A FUCKING LESBIAN CUNT!

>Storms off back to /tg/

>>175226701
even better

>>175168414
there was no thread because the game sucks dick. There's zero build variety and the game is a total joke compared to starcraft 1 or starcraft 2 or starcraft 2 expansion 1/2/3.

It's even bad compared to Company of Heroes 1-2 and Men at War Assault Squad 2.

It will be a ded game in 2 months like the usual total disappointment that spent all its money on marketing posters instead of making actually good game mechanics.

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>>175227031

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>watching ign review
>doesnt sound like he knows much about rts
>look in the corner at one point
>hes floating 3k req and right clicking his orbital bombardment around to kill 1 guy
why are people who suck at video games allowed to review

>>175194632
>the dumbed down mechanics of both an moba AND rts.
did u even play the game

>only 3 maps
>no obs
>no ladder
>no last stand or other casual fun mode to get casual players hooked
>some bugs/glitches
>atrocious menu and ui design that looks like an alpha placeholder
>cant even fucking rebind or change controls at all
This game feels really really rushed, I wouldn't be surprised if GW wanted the release to coincide with all the Newhammer40k shit coming out. If it had a little more time to bake in the oven, could have been really good. I think the core gameplay is fun, with some patches the game could be pretty good, they really fucked up on the first impressions though.

Also there is just other nu-Relic shit that no amount of time could have fixed and just comes down to lack of talent. Boring campaign and mission design, complete lack of quality voice directing and some other stuff. Also there are some pretty suspect design/balance issues but those will get ironed out sooner or later unless they give up on it like I heard they did with CoH2

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>>175228278
>only 3 maps
way to instantly prove you didnt play the game

>all these voice acting complaints.

The voice acting is fine, pretty sure the sound engineers really fucked up their filtering and effects though, super apparent after beating the first mission, Angelos sounds like he's talking in his bathroom. They played it too straight, likewise with the visuals. Everythings a bit too clean for 40k.

>>175228460
desu some of us only care about 1v1

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>>175225641
I'm a colossal retard, I forgot I put -dev in the launch options

>>175228641
Did you play DoW1? Compare that voice acting to DoW3. Yeah, DoW3 is "fine", it's competent and serviceable, but it lacks all of the character and personality that makes 40k great. Like you said they played it too straight. It just sounds like some generic scifi forgetttable shit, doesn't have any flavour or soul whatsoever, like nobody reading the lines got the memo that it's 40k and not space troopers.

Also the art is weird, like the proportions on the space marines don't look right at all, they just look like normal dudes in suits, they're all skinny and weird looking. After DoW1/2 got them right i don't know why they changed them.

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>>175228641
>fine
translation: mediocre, dissapointment, fit for a $10 indie game
>there are people who payed $60 for this game

>>175226637
>army
There's literally only like 7 units in the whole army. Not really much to go off of there.

>>175228641
What I find odd is that they literally replaced every single actor despite all of them still being active. As far as I know only Paul Dobson is a returning actor and he is just doing generic marines and Orks again.

What makes it even more bizarre is that they even included a fucking excuse to justify the voice change, at least for Gab. Apparently the Blood Ravens have a gene seed mutation that makes their vocal chords change every few years.

Which is retarded.

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>apparently the Blood Ravens have a gene seed mutation that makes their vocal chords change every few years.
>I've the impression that the people who made this game didn't actually are about the material, and just made a unit fit whatever dumb role they thought was necessary.
>game where Space Marines don't have Rhinos or Land Raiders in any shape.
>wouldn't stuff like the Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders just be regular troops?

>No Land Raiders
>No captains in MP (instead you get gabe)
>No unit customization of any kind
Game is shit.

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>>175232510
>>No captains in MP (instead you get gabe)
yeah that one (including his LoL style) really triggered my aesthete autism.

Why the fuck does relic think we want to control like 5 units?

There's a reason games like starcraft and command and conquer let you build more units than that. It's not fun to play with such small scale battles and just watch the units auto attack.

Being able to use throw a grenade doesn't suddenly make it engaging either. Hell the elite units have similar numbers of abilities or fewer than things like the science vessel in starcraft, something you could build multiple of.

Unless every unit is going to be like a moba hero, there just isn't enough to the combat. That means every unit should have 3-4 abilities, not just 1. That, or give us actual armies to control, not this small scale buillshit.

>The campaign end

Chaos soon.

>>175234427
Is this post about DoW 2?

>>175234427
Every unit has at least one active, some have 2. Some of them have interactions with ally or enemy units. Between poking, using actives, allocating targets and re positioning there's quite a bit of unit management required.

Dont know where you're getting this 5 unit limit from. Playing orcs I'm regularly having 8-10 units active. Far more than DoW2

Dead general. Ded game on arrival.

>>175236535
People are sleeping or playing the game (or working, it's a friday).

Meanwhile shitposters who never played the game are on /vg/ shitposting as always :^)

>>175234427
You must be posting about DoW2 where there's a pop cap of 6 units (7 if you include the hero).

You can't be posting about DoW3 since DoW3 lets you control like 30 squads at once. And it's units have more abilities and micro tweaks than ever.

>>175230149
>>apparently the Blood Ravens have a gene seed mutation that makes their vocal chords change every few years.

>HURR HURR VOICE ACTORS SHOULD ALL DO WHAT I WANT AND NOT HAVE THEIR OWN SCHEDULES, I'M AN AUTIST

>no rhinos
So? Space Marines in DoW3 are already plenty mobile because they can deploy units with drop pods. Orks and Eldar have transports instead.

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>>175168414
>52-4% from steam review, same as Eternal Crusade

How is that not a flop?

>>175237184

Sure, if you let the game go for like an hour without fighting.

Armies are small because you don't get enough resources to build big armies.

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hey guys!
it's me!
i'm a space marine now!

>>175238798
Nah you get massive armies even in normal games, you have tons of spare req to spam out rac marines and dire avengers with

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>>175234841
To be honest I was expecting Necrons

Also man, Taldeer has a creepy looking skull

>>175199072
>Diomedes is now a chaplain.

>>175207693
Name five aspects.

But, it feels like this is a base game. It FEELS like they're going to add more factions and units.They might even add in some more campaign elements. But, to be fair, most people who play RTS games play mainly for the multiplayer anyways. If they focused on singleplayer instead of multiplayer, a lot of people would get angry as well. Same goes for multiplayer, as we're seeing here.

I'm more interested in how long Taldeer has to live after entering a wraithknight.

>>175242939
She's already dead. It's her soul in the wraithknight.

Wraith constructs aren't like Dreadnoughts. With a Dreadnought, the marine is still (barely) alive and being kept on life support inside the walker.

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How to make a good dawn of war game.

For the campaign, take dark crusade, revamp it a bit, add in more of a storyline. Then enjoy taking over a planet in true 40k style.

For mutiplayer, take CoH cover system, make decent maps with lots of varied cover (all destructable) blend it with DoW.

Instead you have boring single player content and multiplayer content that gets stale fast.

I mean fuck look at CoHs cover, now cover is a circle you capture. How the fuck are games getting progressively worse.

>>175243353
I mean shit maybe it would have been ok if the price was lower but full price for this is just stupid.

Genuinely surprised at how little people are talking about this game. I thought Dawn of War was relatively popular. Total war: Warhammer 2 has more hype surrounding it than this and its release day.
Not much of a marketing budget for this game i think.

Is it true you can't change hotkeys or binds? Also can you create control groups?

>>175243650
Control groups are in. No options for key changes.

>>175243540
rts is just dying, if it's not an fps game on pc or something like that they just dwindle.

most people I know outside of rts circles, dont even know what dow or coh even are.

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Tell me about Diomedes, why does he where the mask?

>>175243540
RTS is nicher than Total War outside of Blizzard

>>175243824
>where
I haven't slept in a hot minute and it shows

>>175243740
>No options for key changes
Why would there not, wtf.

>>175243937
Relic games have never had hotkeys for some fucking reason, I don't understand their aversion

>>175226604
also wondering this, anyone ?

>>175223636
Only if your mom allows you.

>>175204505
We will never have a sequel to Space Marine and it breaks my heart everyday.

How do you get Gabriel Angelo's Deathwatch skin??

>>175243824
Things just haven't been the same for him ever since the breakup of the Bold Brathas. Boreale wanted more creative control, they argued and Diomedes decided to split and work on his solo project - a goth pop record. Hence the skull mask.

>>175243937
See this is actually a legitimate complaint about DoW3. Rather than this "lel mobacraft #notmydow" meme shit.

>>175248524
Mandatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK5-uE5JFg

>>175210054
bitch please.
>acquire whirlwind
>put it behind two devastator squads
>choke point or narrow lanes
enjoy seeing your enemy suffer.

>buy game
>install game
>start the campaign
>finish the boring space marine mission
>finally start the ork mission
>gorgutz is a little bitch serving another ork
>quit game
>uninstall game
>refund game

>>175168414
Barely 70k owners from steamspy. Absolutely buttblasted.

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>>175251867
I think Battleborn sold more copies at launch.

>>175239704

The fuck? You absolutely do not get "tons of extra req".

A unit costs like 400 req and you can build at most 2 of them a minute. That's a glacial pace for building units.

>>175247032
probably campaign maybe on higher difficulty

I really liked DoW 2 but never played 1. Is the game really more like 1?

>>175170778
cause denuvo, friend got it its shit

>>175200725
The first 3 missions of the campaign are a real slog, boring tutorial shit with 3 units to build. The 3v3 mode is basically unplayable due to a lack of anti deathball mechanics like increased veterancy for fighting larger forces or more elite point gain but other than that 2v2 and 1v1 is ok and the rest of the campaign is not half bad. Honestly the game might be a sleeper hit but I wont hold my breath

Dont really get why people say its a moba since the only mobaish element is unit abilities and the turrets honestly I would like some sort of moba mode with ai guardsmen pushing lanes or something, not saying it would be great but it would be a neat inclusion

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So how exactly do I use these new paints? Anyone?

>>175258489
itd probably help if you were in the army painter

the campaign missions are too long

Anyone knows how to get Classic Macha ?

>>175259735
Yeah the army painter doesn't show anything different smartass. Which is why I'm asking in the first place.

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try again

>>175223935
I'm irked by having named characters amongst the elites. Even if I'm playing Imperial Fists, its still Gabe who beams in?

>no autosave function
Fucking amateurs, Relic full of fresh graduates or something? Jesus christ the incompetence is embarrassing.

>>175181981
It's compared to MOBAs because the heroes (elites) are so strong that they make regular units almost irrelevant. So when the heroes are out, the heroes and their abilities are all that matters.

The balance of power between elites and armies is pretty much the same as MOBA heroes and creeps.

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Hope I'm not gonna regret this!

>>175223935

Or how one Kommando is an elite unit when they are usually a squad

>>175271516
i didn't

>why is no oe discussing the game?!

Why would anyone want to do that in the cesspool that spawned the "muh moba" meme?

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>>175274693
lets discuss 40k lore since /tg/ is a shit show now

>22 fucking gigabytes

>>175275478
only
>22 fucking gigabytes

Finished the first two missions. I don't know much about 40k, never played anything except Space Marine the tps. But I like the tone, it's a nice balance between very self-serious and very self-aware with how goofy it is. Game looks and runs good on my old 750ti toaster. but I'm not even sure it's such a good looking game even running maxed out so I don't mind.

>>175275478
I expected bigger. I bought Blazblue CF the other day (2D sprite anime fighting game) and that was 50+ which is kinda nuts.

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>all these morons trying to defend their $60 investment in trash

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Is anyone else playing dawn of war 1 to remember what could have been? I just took out the imperial guard in my campaign.

They could have taken this glorious game, balanced it a bit, added some modern improvements to unit AI and pathing, improved the graphics, and it would have been wonderful.

Instead we get something without soul and extremely barebones.

Why the fuck did they try to make an esports game first, and a good game second? That's not how this works. The good games will naturally become esports if people like them!

>>175280254
There's no money to be made in comp-stomping. Not much money to be made in RTS in general, but I'm glad they're trying.

>>175251867
Steamspy isn't accurate for newly released games.

>>175254000
>FPS sells more than RTS.
No shit. FPS games have infinitely more mass appeal than a dead genre. That said, Battleborn has an all time peak of 12k players, while DoW 3 is currently sitting at 25k.

>>175280740

Dawn of war 1 multiplayer was still better though.
Also, since when are the casual aspects of a game not the money makers? It's the hardcore shit that doesn't sell. The mass market is all casual players.

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>>175258489
>Nuker/Assassin
>moba terminology this blatant
>assassin wouldn't be enough
>paying $60 for this

>>175280254
>Why the fuck did they try to make an esports game first, and a good game second? That's not how this works. The good games will naturally become esports if people like them!
They made it clear that they weren't trying to do anything esports related, which is pretty obvious with no observer support, even if there are replays.

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>>175284515
That's not because they don't want esports, it's because the game was released half assed and bare boned.

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>Elites tab has icon indicating new stuff
>None of the faction tabs do though
>There is no new stuff
>Not even restarting will make it go away

This really tickles my autism.

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>>175243353
>I mean fuck look at CoHs cover, now cover is a circle you capture.

This triggers me the most. CoH2 have one of the best cover system in strategy. in TT cover is also important

>lel, let's remove our well known and liked cover system and add a FUCKING CIRCLES, people will love it!

This and only 3 races at launch stops me from buing this money grab.

Not to add: absolute utter shit game menu with coutner intuitive buttons in strange places, slow as fuck with useless animations (a lot of 1s animations out of nowhere), no "i am ready button" on setup etc, not customizable heroes (fixed names instead of genetic capitains triggers me) and really souless game mode (i'd be ok with moba mode, but why it's necron-looking turret for everyone? they coudln't even reskin them to orkish, eldar and marine?)

One big nope.

>>175284889
>ULTRAED

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Guess who is the winner of Soulstorm ya gitz!

>>175280072
sure only morons pay 60 for any game when you can buy it almost 50% cheaper.

Just finished campagin was kinda dissapainted but o boy I didn't expected that what they showed afrer Credits.

>>175289398
Basicaly:
>We had only 3 factions, but buy DLC goy for another one!

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>>175285763
>there are people who will read this and continue to defend their poor, ignorant investment in the blatant diarrhea that is DOW3
>>175290993

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>>175288446
>gorgutz' diagram of macha and gabe with x'd out eyes
i shoulda capped it

Got the game for free and still don't feel like playing after finishing the campaign.

Not that it matters because you can't even find a game against AI in quickplay.

>>175168414
Kinda disappointed in what I got. the army painter is shitty, like wtf guys give me OPTIONS. Let me actually PAINT individual units
No chaos faction so you can bet it'll be paid DLC..?
No imperial guard, limited unit roster, all the upgrades have been dumbed down to the point of useless.
And I can still use 2 predator lascannons and a blob of tac marines with plasma guns and never worry about a thing
Imp Knoghtis strangely overpowered for something you can get 10 minutes in
It's like a halfway complete game. We don't even get wargear or a last stand mode

>>175293782
There's really no strategy element other than get your expensive elite out ASAP then worry about other shit

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>tfw K'm spending more time in the army painter making fanfic chapters thannactually playing the game.

Dawn of war II was better than this shitfest.

>>175290993
It looked more like Expansion. there will be campagin.

All DoW3 achieved is make me reinstall the older games. Fuck that hot garbage.

>>175299196
I'm playing Heroes of the Storm instead

Never played WH40K. I enjoy RTS and mobas. On the surface this interests me.

Is this a bad game (of its kind), or just not the game people expected? Because a MOBA with RTS aspects, base building etc. sounds fucking awesome to me.

>>175299907
People are butthurt because its not the previous titles, which is ironic because DoW 2 was far simpler. I enjoyed the campaign and am enjoying multiplayer, my only gripes are no keybinds (fucking relic never changes) and the hero leveling for the army doctrines

>>175299646
Life with shit taste must be ugly.

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>>175288446

>orks won soul storm

NO
NO
NO

FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>175302209
>orks
>winning anything
Their "victories" constitute the other races packing up and leaving cause no one can be bothered to fight them any more.

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>>175288446

>IG fags on suicide watch

>>175302428
The vietcong won the war too

>>175293346
I'll take your key, thanks.

>>175302428

This is typical cancer I see in /tg/

game needs veterancy just defend against waves of this guy but after beating each one he had another ready for holding most of the map so my battered units couldnt push to take ground

I thought I was willing to swallow whatever shit came just to play a renewed Warhammer 40,000 experience, I swear. But this is just too much.

Why isn't there more screaming? Banshee howl sounds pathetic, they literally rip off the one in the trailer and put in the game and it would be better. I refuse to even comment on the Space Marines.

Speaking of which, why the fuck do Devastators look like they are having a seizure while shooting? No other media shows heavy bolters to have that much recoil... At least ordinary bolters look and sound nice.

I'm getting a refund. Maybe when it's on sale I'll get it again. But for now it is just too much disappointment.

>>175302428
>fight until all enemies are gone
>control the planet with no resistance remaining
>BUT IT WASNT REAL VICTORY CUZ OTHER FACTIONS WASNT HOLOCAUSTED DOWN TO THE LAST MAN!!

>>175204505

Or just do DoW1 HD.

>>175251759

>Being retarded.

He back stabs the warlord and then pretty much fucks everyone in the ass.

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spoiler for any who haven't finished the campaign

>>175308870
are they worth getting excited over? I'm not very deep into 40k.

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>>175310154
Hmm yes and no ? I kinda want to see them here how they will work. Evil space Terminators. Walking slowly ignoring dmg. They can be fun.

>>175308870
consider that the opening quote of the game was from the original Necrons codex, I expected them.

Who is excited at the $29.99 necron unit pack,
followed by skins $$$$
What other armies will they tease?
Heres hoping for Skitarii, Dark eldar, Tau, anything that doesn't get as much show time
In reality I assume just more Marine skins

>>175311362
And they have added Necron lord to Last Stand.

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>>175312331
yeboi

Though i'm wondering, other than the bbeg, wheres the chaos?

>>175312627
I think it is possible they will add Necrons and Chaos in next expansion. But I would prefer some fresh race now always chaos.

>20 minutes match making for a 3v3
games already dead?

>>175314442
I never searched longer than 1-2 min.

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Is he ever gonna stop winning? Will the humies and pointy 'eads stop getting btfo?

>>175313903
I doubt double race expacs will ever be a thing again, shit's way more expensive than it used to be unforunately

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>>175317039
WHERES MY SUPPA POINTY STIKK

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bump

>>175313903
I want IG
I feel like it will be IG since they already have guardsmen models shooting in the game

IG and Necron

game's $45 on GMG

>delete DoW3 beta via steam
>drive space remains the same
where are my god damn 20 GIGABYTES!!!!

>>175326338
so im not alone on this

>>175189708
>steam reviews
>relevant/accurate/worth reading or paying attention to

Pick one.

Does DoW 3 have a vs AI mode? Or do I always have to play against other people...?

>>175326895
It does, didnt in beta

>>175327484
oh shoot, I'll probably buy it now

What are killa kans like? Are they pure anti vehicle or can they do other stuff too

>>175328071
They're kinda useful as a melee tarpit against ranged or low-tier melee infantry. Their damage is naff, but they last forever against anything that doesn't have armor-piercing or universal damage melee. They will actually win out against ranged units eventually. Well, most ranged units. Don't try to melee Terminators or Meganobz with them, that ends in the poor Kan getting crumped in short order.

Did everyone else first load up the game with low resolution settings by default?

has any one else devolved to playing eldar and spamming specters and rangers and 2 titans?

Should I play the campaign on Hard, or is it just some increased unit HP/DMG rather than smarter AI that elongates the campaign?

>>175329510
Hard is pretty manageable, go for it. I havent noticed any HP changes, I think there's more units

>pre ordered physical edition
>won't get here for another week
>just wanna start playing the damn game already
This sucks
Why couldn't they just email the keys instead of putting them in the boxes

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>>175330256
doin' it

am I getting more experience for it? these numbers are yuge

>>175332182
not sure if its more, ive only played hard, but yeah you get lods. i was worried about the doctrine shit but its pretty manageable

>>175329510
>smarter AI

Has this ever been the case for any game ever? Not more aggressive AI, but smarter AI with difficulty. It seems like if developers made a smarter AI, they would want to show that off to everyone, not just the 5% who play on the hardest difficulty.

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I wanna fug the Bonesinger!

>>175332889
I feel like most RTS games do this in their custom matches; not so sure about campaigns.

>>175331118
That's called digital distribution. You should try it.

i hate the main menu music and how intrusive it is

>>175335807
Nah she would be annoying as fuck.

You take her out to dinner and she gets all philosophical.

>we are shaped by this plate just as we shape it

>>175326338
It might be holding onto the data in case you install the actual game (which I highly recommend, it's fun).

Go delete it manually in the steamapps folder.

>>175339960
>My sides are shaped by this post, just as you shaped it

>>175251867
As the other anon said, Steamspy isn't accurate for new games, it takes at least 3 days after release to get accurate numbers.

It's also not accurate at all for small games which sell under 30k copies.

DoW3 is currently sitting on 100k though. So by your logic it's had a 50% increase in sales in 1 day.

"Buttblasted" my fucking ass (pun intended).

>>175254000
Pretty sure it didn't. Despite being a much more popular genre. Relic has the advantage of not having Pitchford on board tho.

>>175340730
Shutuuuuup!!!!! it flopped, relicuck!!!!!

>>175302451
Dude, I fucking love the Kommando in DoW3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBQ-D4FHZaY

>>175241748
>>175313903
>>175311362
>>175312331

>DLC races

Final mission has you fighting a giant daemon and his Bloodletter minions in a wave-defence kinda thing like Last Stand.

Also after the credits you see a Necron face

https://clips.twitch tv/ScaryInnocentSardineUnSane

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>>175345252

close camera mod when

how do I get friends to play this game with

>>175351313
You find friends with shitty taste in video games, try plebbit

>>175353332
>friends with shitty taste in video games
So /vg/ it is.

What is this weird comparison to Starcraft I keep seeing thrown around?

Have you guys even played starcraft? Have you ever seen starcraft?

You're saying that an almost exclusively micro focused, squad based RTS is similar to a largely macro focused traditional RTS.

You make units using resources in both games, that's about as far as the similarities go.

>>175361354
The only other similarity to SC2 I can think of is that units die fairly quickly. But still, units in DoW3 don't die as quickly as they do in SC2. I'd say it's comparable to CnC in terms of lethality.

I think people need to accept that DoW3 is just it's own beast. It's not DoW1, or DoW2, or SC2, or a moba.

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Anon, I've played close and open betas. Yet in both of them I'm having a weird bug. Which dramatically decreased my performance.

The game wasn't running fullscreen, but borderless window. My f.lux was affecting the game, meaning colors were becoming warmer when day was going to evening to release my eyes from extra brightness of the screen.

This shouldn't happen with fullscreen games, f.lux doesn't affect any games that I have.

The question is anyone having same problem? I didn't bought the game because of that. My specs: 4770k, 780ti, win7, ssd