Wargames General /wgg/

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not dead?

Go play Open General.

http://luis-guzman.com/opengen.html

>>175093509
Killing a whale is pretty much the end of your career in the navy. Good job admiral.

>>175093578
nice malware

>>175093662
>End
>Not getting decorated for it

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WHY DOES IT REFUSE TO DIE

>>175094305
which graviteam game are you playing? and which campaign?

>>175094054

I think firing a nuclear device would get you into bigger shit than killing the whale.

I hope you're all planning on buying Tunisia 1943 on Monday anons

>>175094428
Operation Star, Volokonovka.

They give you fuck all anti-tank, and two platoons consisting of KV-1's and T-34's to deal with. I had a single Pak-38 (lasted all of two seconds, tracked a T-34 before going down), some artillery (two nebels and a leFH battery), 8cm mortars, and the real joke, an engineer brigade with satchels. Most of the terrain is all wide open country too.

Absolutely disgusting, but strangely enjoyable.

>>175094904
War is hell, bruh.

So, Tomorrow are we being cock teased with 1 division or multiple divisions?

>>175095784
They've said "a" multiple times, but then again MadMat is a huge retard.

Anyone can explain to me why those brainless minions from paradox forums are so eager to give away their hard-earner money for something they might even not enjoy? SD44 has not even been realsed yet, and they are already asking for DLC's and are declaring that they will throw money on everything parajews will release. Bitch, instead encouraging developers to make complete, content rich games you are devaluating yourself into money-milking cow that will have to pay dozens of times for patching the incomplete game that back in they days you would get for a single price. I can't fucking understand those kind of people.

Tanks able to fire smoke rounds when?

>>175094903
>Buying game on the first day because of the hype, instead on the sale.
Are you even strategist?

>>175097130
tanks and inf able to use smoke grenades when?

>>175097170
Infantry already can

>>175097170
Infantry already can you fucking idiot jesus christ fucking end yourself already. Are you blind? Did your mother drop you on your head? What is wrong with you? What happened to you that caused you to end up in this situation? How could ANYONE possibly be this fucking stupid? Why haven't you killed yourself already and done the entire world a favor?

>>175097346
Kill yourself Greg

>>175097335
>>175097346
prove it

>>175097401
b

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>>175097401

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https://discord.gg/watM75d

Join discord

Play games

Win!

>>175094903
Is this like a SABOW sequel thing, or a Tactics sequel? Or its own thing? The steam page seems kind of vague, and if it was tactics, it seems really soon after Mius, and the lack of title. I'd have thought an expansion would just go as DLC like Hooper/China did. I'd imagined they'd release a few more campaigns on Mius before bringing out a sequel too, given how much Star has.

Wait and see I guess.

>>175097346
Toxic people like you are not welcomed in /wgg/. Please don't ever post in here again.

>>175097594
How about you toxically suck my sweaty cock

>>175097507
so only one squad in the game? wow

i said infantry

not baby hand held flamethrower food

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>AI moves 12 M5A1s to flank me
>Only have one Panzer 3 on that side
wew

>>175097589

It's a Tactics series game, they're not using the Graviteam Tactics title because it's being published by Strategy First and not themselves.

>>175097730
Your low level of culture implies you have been brought in the dysfunctional family. Your parents, probably the lower class manual workers have never took the time to teach you the proper manners and rules of social interaction with other human beings. Cluless on how to act you resort to verbal violence and agression since that is what's the most familiar to you.

>>175098482
At least I can spell "clueless" you candle sniffing fuckfence.

>>175098304
Ahh okay, good to hear. I'll pick it up for sure then.

I'm hoping that they'll still be developing Mius front though, I was really hoping that game would get as fleshed out as Star was.

>>175097547
>Win!
You underestimate how shit I am.

>>175099118
>>175098304
It looks good but why none of that cool tank sim stuff that steel beasts had?

>>175099147
You underestimate how shit discord subhumans can be

>>175099345
>>175099147
discord is literal reddit

>>175098236
what gaem?

>>175097818
Not an argument

>>175097547
>discord
fuck off nigger. Discord kills threads and turns generals into dramafaggotry.

>>175100760
Yeah I thought that too, but if you can't beat em join em. Also need some pay to play with you homos.

>>175100274
Combat Mission

>>175100274
Looks like Combat Mission: Fortress Italy

>>175097346
t. Craig

>When you hold your sector and try to re-enforce others, but you just can't do it
Feels bad. I was stuck with the open field as 2nd Infantry, so I though If I could just hold it and invest in Airpower maybe I could help people push somewhere else. But every body got pushed back except for me and another due at the middle.

>>175104720
>when you are playing 3v3 in men of war and you side is fucking empty so you decide to help push the other side but then your side gets norfolwergferd

Is SD multiplayer dead or is it just me?

>>175105875
Sometimes there aren't many lobbies, sometimes there are loads. But host a game and people join pretty damn quickly. Never takes me over 5 mins to get a 2v2.

>>175105123
>play combat with friends long time ago
>almost every single time the enemy can't make a frontline
>win every time

I wish the maps had a bit more depth since it's barely worth it going halfway.

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>Call in a B-4 240mm artillery gun in Men of War
>Fire it at an enemy tank
>Shell lands
>Tank gets lifted up by the explosion and is flipped over

I love this game

>>175106000
No you retard, I mean literally not working. I guess there's my answer.

>>175106558
Woah there Mr Salt, don't like the way that someone answered your fucking question immediately?
Fuck off you ungrateful cunt.

Requesting the 17lbr Pepe

>>175106719
Get fucked, cunt.

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>I hate the maps in RD!
>this is fine though

ok?

>>175107702
>hating bocage

>>175107702
Looking for a problem and not finding it

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>>175107702
Where is the issue?

>>175107702
>4 road chokepoints in the middle
>lots of cover for inf
Where's the problem?

>>175106474
>>I wish the maps had a bit more depth since it's barely worth it going halfway.
play on maps with larger player counts

I feel like Scotts are the most balanced division. And by balanced, I mean fit for any situation. The only thing they seem to lack is air power.

>>175108253
2x ASF Spitfires for Phase A is great

>>175108253
Scots are still really good despite the nerf. Which is fine considering their record in the Battle of Normandy

>>175108253
I love the Scots. The only thing I would like is for them to get Achilles in their AT tab, replacing the A30 with the Firefly (I can't find a single instance where the Scots were supported by the A30 but I can for the Firefly)

That and a bit of accuracy regarding their transport options. Gib Sextons /spoiler]

>>175107702
Looks like bocage country.

>>175099118
For anyone wondering, found some info from one of the devs regarding this.

>The Graviteam Tactics does not go anywhere. It will continue to develop of the eastern front (and not only EF). But TW will be dedicated to the Allies and the "conventional" Western front.

>GTMF is game about the Eastern front (mostly USSR vs Germany) and in the future, a little bit about post-war events. There can not be Africa or the DLC about Africa during the Second World War.

Potential hint at Korean war DLC for MF?

>>I recall some pictures of British equipment in the epic "next campaign" thread. The British were in Tunisia in 1943 (so was my dad!) - so are the British also in TW?
>Yes, will be, but not from the release.

... and that's where it looks like the thread devolved into autists harassing the developer about miscellaneous bullshit about MF AI, instead of probing for further Tunisia information. I feel bad for the dev, he must have to put up with a lot of autistic screeching.

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Wouldn't mind some heavier British bombers 2bh

>>175109453

I'm pretty sure nobody at Graviteam is proficient enough in English to actually understand their fan's posts.

Dear Combat Mission friends. How do you guys deal with MG42s as the allies?/ I find myself getting absolutely slaughtered unless I have local tank support available and often the scenario means I don't.

I get suppressed big time and Germany seems to have them in abundance in Normandy.

What would you advise?

Love Anon.

>>175109453
>I feel bad for the dev, he must have to put up with a lot of autistic screeching
Every thread devolves into this. Pretty sure devs hire community managers to avoid reading stupid people.

>>175110025
Using Arty and CAS or your own HMG teams/M3s with 50 cals.

>>175109736
It's amusing to read the manuals they release. As someone with a rudimentary understanding of Russian, their Runglish is very obvious. It's kind of endearing. They'll be mixing up stuff like in / on, missing out on words that cases would ordinarily cover in Russian, plus other little things that translate weirdly to English, being literally shifted word for word from how you'd say them in Russian.

>>175110025
Sounds like mortar time, but I dont play that game yet.

>>175110025
go around them, AI wont re-position

If you are playing against a person, just use mortars or smoke if you dont have armor

>still no explanation of sudden attack or any of the other messages that pop up in graviteam

>>175110749
They're sitting on my objective

My only issue with mortars is that they often take >2 mins to arrive and are inaccurate as fuck. I need good LOS to call them in and that means MG42 slaughter time.

>>175111439

Crawl to a spotting position and order your spotters to not open fire.

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>>175108253
Speaking of Scotts, two matches in a row I've pushed my opposite back into their spawn. AA spam actually shoot down aircraft as well which is nice and pretty necessary if you want to push significantly past the half way point on the map.

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And the award of the "Arty Clown of the Year" goes to....

>>175112839
>Not bringing that much artillery

>>175112407
Post deck

>>175112839
I see nothing wrong here.

>>175112839
no one cares sharkey

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>>175113059
Please no bully

>>175114268
Less Bren groups and more rifles.

Otherwise I can see myself being able to win with that deck

Which Wargame (as in the Eugen series) is the best one?

>>175114374
I could throw in one more rifle group instead, but I do love my quick 15 point infantry for taking and holding ground in uncontested areas. I'll think about it.

>>175114939
Airland Battle or EE. Though ALB I prefer over EE

>>175114939
Airspam battle

>>175114974
Bren groups are worse in CQC because no SMG

>>175114939
Red Dragon without question. Its only issues are related to the recent DLCs.

>>175115810
wrong

>>175114939
Red Dragon at the exact moment SPAAGs got their IRL rate of fires. Everything beyond that was downhill.

>>175114939
EE

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wwii is boring lmfao

>>175117791
Why are the people at the back grinding in public?

>>175118074
class struggle in their underpants

How do I git gud at Graviteam Op Star?

Can't even figure out communications or how to make artillery attack ground

>>175119859
go back to RD you fucking plen

>>175114939
RD for multi, EE for SP
>>175116024
so never? You don't believe a unit actually had 1000+ hitrolls per minute?

>>175119859
Click your spotter units and find the circles, that's the arty spots. comms can be laid with wire or by having a leader around. Simplify your commands to put less stress on the command points btw. I mainly micromanage tanks but thats it.

To get mortars and the like firing there is an icon that looks like arty shells hitting the ground. Click that then click the target. Should come up with a 0% and in orange circle/line.

>>175120559
I don't think I brought spotters, do they come with the artillery regiment?

>>175120415
>tell tank platoon to fast move
>randomly spin in circles and after a few minutes get on the road ans sluggishly crawl towards objective

thoroughly immersed

>>175120691
For off map stuff not really, a lot of units have a spare slot that you can put the spotters into. Go to one of the stats screens on the operation screen. Forgot it's specific name but it's not hard to find.

>>175114939
EE's single player campaigns would be great if not for some missions that have really asinine design, the fact that the AI cheats and how the game is not balanced for SP.

>>175121041
I'll have to check that out. Playing a little custom game wher I threw together a handful of tanks and arty and attacked some AT guns

>>175119859
Step 1, read this guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=339318454
Step 2, bash your head against the wall and die until you can learn how to play because slavs cant into tutorials or detailed info

This guide seems to cover all the stuff you need to know. There's another one, probably older, that covers similar topics but its shorter and I dont know where it is.

>>175120906
>tell them to move fast down a road
>they maintain their spacing and form a nice convoy
>at the end they all try and go to the same spot and cause a huge pile up, 3 of 4 tanks flipped

>>175121647
>select units and tell them to fast move or to move in general
>instead of moving at the pace of the slowest element in the convoy they all move at their top speed
Just Eugene things.

>>175121647
I started playing Op Star to brush up for Tunisia but it's just making me think i shouldn't buy it

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'what did the commander say?'

'Im not really sure I think he said drive through all these buildings next to this road to get to the objective as fast as possible'

>>175119859
Two different types. On map, off map. You need your spotter to have sight for accurate off map arty. Put the circle down where you want it while spotter has sight, then you can call and shift them away. Drag to make a line if that fits the target better. If you put the markers down in the deployment phase, you'll get better marks than possible after that phase. Mark probably routes the enemy will take.

Number on the left of the circle is time until shells hit after calling, right number is spread. Better line of sight on the position when you mark it means better spread/time. If your observer has line of sight while it lands, it'll zero in.

For on-map arty - each unit has a squad leader. If this squad leader is connected to your mortar (through telephone wires, or being within 100m of them), the mortar can fire without line of sight to its target. Better their communication network/spotter LOS, the more accurate.They essentially acquire the squad leads vision. This is good, as you can have the SL hidden spotting, while the mortar is also hidden in defilade firing. You can also set a target area for mortars, that acts kind of similar to your off-map arty. It absolutely chews through ammo, so use it sparingly. You can also set positions like this for dedicated MG's too. It's quite effective sometimes to use them like that.

If you're not using the squad leader, then you need direct LOS with the mortar itself.

Mortar ranges are like 500-800 max for the 50mm, and a few km for the 80mm.

For communications - generally, try and keep your platoons together. If you need to spread them out (ie, AT guns), make sure you've telephone troops around, and leave them static. They'll get wires up, so it won't hurt your order giving ability too badly. Anything over 100m is out of voice range, so you'll suffer penalties (delay, increased cost to issue order) unless you've got wires.

Basically, press the button that shows your communication network. Keep it together.

>>175122621
Seems like a good idea to me.

>>175121932
You can pirate it if you want anyway, they dont bother too much with the protection and the slavs usually post the updates. Op star is old tho.

>>175122621
>'Im not really sure I think he said drive through all these buildings next to this road to get to the objective as fast as possible'
Use the order panel down the bottom right if you're moving through a town like that. It's generally better, if less convenient. They'll follow the road perfectly, and get to destination faster. Just set the parameters before clicking the order, and click it for them as a group, and they'll seek out the road and move along in formation.

Makes moving vehicle groups way less frustrating.

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This the place for RotK?

Can't generate discussion on /v/ without Dynasty Warriors getting tacked on.

>>175123790
It has its own general.

>>175122986
Oh jesus thank you anon.
>>175122772
>>175121176
thank you guys as well

>>175123790
Nah mate, you're looking for /gsg/. Good taste though.

>>175091341

>>175124015
>/gsg/
Fuck no, rather /eagg/.

>>175123790
/eagg/

>>175124147
>>175124367
Thanks

How do I refund SD?

>>175124616
https://help.steampowered.com/en/

>>175124616
>Click on help in the top of Steam window
>Steam Support
>Purchases
>Find and click Steel Division in the list
>"I would like a refund"

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Is this the game people are talking about when they mention "Graviteam Tactics"?

There's a lot of Graviteam stuff in the Steam Store.

>>175124616
why refund it?

>>175124965
There's that and Operation Star. First game has more content.

>>175124965
That or Operation Star.

Mius front is still receiving content, Star already has it. Star doesn't feel dated, would fully recommend it. You can get the DLC's from the OP.

>>175124972
It's garbage

>>175124972
>Why flush shit?

>>175121131
>the game is not balanced for SP

why not. Do you have any examples?

>>175127940
Because the balance changes for multiplayers made missions much harder. The upside is that you can downgrade the game, the downside is that if you downgrade you don't earn stars from beating missions. I'm not sure on whether or not that would lock you out from unlocking everything.

>>175128665
>much harder
that's a positive, though.

>>175128785
It isn't a positive at all, the SP campaign was supposed to be played with the vanilla balance, as it is now it's bullshit thanks to how much the AI cheats.

>>175128946
how can AI cheat when it's scripted.

>>175129069
Only the predeployed units are scripted, and even then the AI can still deploy shit, move units "as appropriate" and it still doesn't have fog of war.

>>175129236
regardless, EE campaigns aren't impossible, or even difficult. I completed them not long ago. Can't imagine how easy they must have been before.

>>175129606
>EE campaigns aren't impossible, or even difficult. I completed them not long ago
Did you finish all of the secondary objectives too? I just gave up on some of them. Also, are you an experienced player? That'd explain why you found them easy, I can guarantee you that newbies would find them brutal.

>Can't imagine how easy they must have been before.
You can downgrade the game and see it by yourself.

>>175124616
take a sharp knife, cut your wrist, afterwards take a rope, tie it to a tree, make a noose and place it around your feet and hang yourself.

Steel Division.

Am I the only one having a hard time killing bofors?

Going at them with a tank squad may do it, but at the loss of most of the squad.

Infantry rush is equally retarded to try, since it fires flak at such high rpm that all of my infantry will get spooked in two seconds, sit on their asses, and then get ripped appart like paper on a woodchipper.

Really the only good choice is going at them with artillery, but even then unless you strike a direct hit they'll just run a way and come back later; plus, the only time I've seen the AI push with bofors is on its own so getting artillery to the side the bofors is at is just a waste of time and money.

Is it supposed to be this way?

I bet it was Johan that swedish cunt always with the swedish bias.

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>accidentally started game before I finished positioning troops

uh
guys

>>175130516
rip
defend the motherland at all costs

any updates to SD? last i played we got two amphibious divisions

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>>175130748
Im trying senpai but this AT gun refuses to move

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>>175131130
give it some more vodka, put on pic related and try again in a minute

1 elite T-72BU and 1 Elite T-80UM, or two of each at trained

what do

>>175131348
I meant veteran

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>>175131237
>haven't figured out communication yet
rip motherland

>>175131348
Two of each, every time.

>>175131348
always go with two on such important units

>>175131567
going off my experience with Graviteam, you will completely lose all your men and territory and the game will end up declaring you the victor.

>>175131130
Does Graviteam use the same engine as 7.62 High Calibre?

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I hate my teammates

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Panzer III gets too greedy and drives full speed at my island battery
>>175132068
no idea

>>175134850
Wait, they haven't killed you yet?

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>>175135178
different game senpai

also yes

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>>175131567
Command>Red, Red relays to Yellow and Orange commanders.
You dont seem to have command units in that battle though, so skip that step.
Isolated units might take forever to receive an order.

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>>175135686
I think I get it.
>>175135359
this is my game, is that more or less it? Im using the main commander on the edge of the river as a spotter, and I have the telephone troops <100m from him so he can communicate with both of the other commanders and their gun teams so they share vision. Is that more or less it?


also

>PzIII's eating shots from my guns
help

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>>175129804
no, I didn't complete all of them either. Some secondary missions really can be a grind.

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>>175135989
What game is this?

>>175136356
Graviteam Tactics: Operation Star

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>>175136536
Here's your (you) as thanks.

I just realized it was mentioned a couple times on the thread, bear with me, I'm mentally challenged.

>>175136686
I do the same thing desu

I wish they would just get it over with and make a tank sim from Mius Front.

>>175136997
get steel beasts

>>175135989
Thats more or less it. You could reverse the spotter roles too since losing that unit means losing command points and an increased time to receive orders in big battles.

Also remember that the telephone unit must be assigned to the AI to lay its network.

>>175136145
Try going back and getting all of the stars. You already have one of the hardest ones, evacuation, out of the way.

>>175137157
why do my AT guns instantly obey orders though?

is there a certain battle setup I can try to get maximum practice with the communication system?

Is Operation Star a good babby's first for Graviteam games?

>>175137967
yes

t. guy who's been bitching about it the whole thread

>>175137157
Do I need to set them to AI as well in Mius Front to lay wire?

>>175137142
D O N G L E

petition to ban red dragon nerds. all in favour reply to this post with "ban 'em jim"

>>175137438
The dev has stated the game simulates runners to relay orders. I guess it becomes apparent once your commander units reach a certain distance.

>>175138645
I have no clue. Doesnt hurt to keep it assigned to the AI at least, the officers stay in the assigned spot while 2 or 3 guys move to lay the wires.

>>175140010
Oh I guess they were within shouting distance

so how do I use telephone troops? put them in the exact middle of the commander and whatever units I want to communicate with?

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>>175140773
Place them somewhere and assign them to the AI, they'll do the work by themselves. If you move them, they'll begin to work once they reach their destination.
Dont put them at risk, they're quite valuable and usually there's no replacements.

>>175141370
Just put them literally anywhere and they'll start laying com lines? Isvthere a way to see what they've lain?

>>175141950
>Just put them literally anywhere and they'll start laying com lines?
Exactly. I think the ones laying the wire regroup with the rest of the squad once they finish laying a wire before they run to lay wires again.

>Isvthere a way to see what they've lain?
There's a telephone over their heads in OS, maybe there's another indicator too. In MF its explicitly stated on the left side of the screen.

Keep in mind that moving your unit breaks the telephone wires and they gotta lay wires from scratch.

>>175130271
hello reddo spacing

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>>175144115
I just hate how bunched up paragraphs get, leave me alone.

>>175144528
One line is not a paragraph.

>>175144802
Ok anon, I'm a reddit, now what.

>>175130271
Bofors are scary, yes. I just harass them with mortars until they go away.

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>>175097547
This discord seems already a circle jerk and full of reddit like 6 text channels where only one is used, 3 voice channels no ones using and 3 admins ffs.

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>When the halftrack starts making sick donuts because the driver got killed and his foot is stuck on the gas pedal

>>175148925
Discord is a meme but how else you gonna play with people?

>>175135989
>Im using the main commander on the edge of the river as a spotter, and I have the telephone troops <100m from him so he can communicate with both of the other commanders and their gun teams so they share vision. Is that more or less it?
More or less. Sometimes the guns just won't have angle (especially apparent with low trajectory guns like the generic AT guns) so it might look like they've a shot, when the gun in actually barred or elevations are bad. You can check the actual gun sight-line with the tape-measure tool if you right click - I find it usually pretty helpful. Sometimes the green disk view thing says 10/10 viewing, while tape-measure states otherwise Tanks have high profile though, so red doesn't necessarily mean you can't fire there, as it'll turn green if you test with the tank there. For mortars and the like, that's how it works though. If you want to absolute guarantee they fire, give the mortars LOS directly, but yeah commander is usually enough.

I don't think the telephone troops need to be within 100m exactly, as they'll get to work laying wires over longer distances if you let them. I keep them close by regardless though. If you're setting up in a defence, the runners will already have wire set up from the start of battle.

>>175149065
Teamspeak has worked just fine for me for... over a decade? And it's not a resource-whore like Discord, probably because it's not bloated with a bunch of dumb shit that no one actually needs.

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>>175149065
Yes but you don't want a circle jerk running it.


Join my discord for no fucktards running it: https://discord.gg/dhAUVqp

>>175149431
>Discord wars
Fuck off

>>175149390
This

>>175149431
>join my discord so we can talk about weebshit and complain about Eugen instead of playing the fucking game

>>175137438
>why do my AT guns instantly obey orders though?
They're extremely close to their squad commands, and the squad commands are extremely close and wired to the PL command. Down on the bottom right is the little hat button with 87 next to it. Basically, you've got solid command. Blue line on this means you've got wired communication to the unit too, if you want to check. Little black symbol means radio connection (often in tanks).

See the little "o" button on the bottom left panel? Click it, it'll bring up a representation of your current communications network status. I honestly can't remember what each colour line meant, but I remember it felt pretty self explanatory.

>>175140773
Basically just put them in the middle of your troops and let the AI handle it.

>>175148981
I had one who did similar. He drove across the entire roaring battlefield dodging tank shells and everything, was extremely ebin.

>>175149431
>unrelated anime picture
>discord wars
You sure sound like a reasonable human bean.

>>175149390
Personally I prefer the ancient Mumble, but TS works too.

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>>175149508
You're on fucking 4chan what do you expect

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>>175149872
>Its your fault for having standards
>Come be shit with me

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>>175149948
Yeah maybe you should leave for reddit.

So, in order to make an effort to get away from the shitposting, do you guys know when we'll be getting the next two divisions?

And if so, which divisions they'll be?

>>175150183
in 7 and a half hours eugene will be doing a stream announcing the next division(s) and map

we'll find out then if we can sort the information from the hons

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Why do my AT guns in Graviteam Tactics refuse to move?

>>175150993
realism

>>175150993
They can get stuck, depending on the weather and terrain. Try using the reverse option to test your luck.

>>175148925
Discord is a fucking Chinese datamining scam used exclusively by redittors/normalfags to circlejerk eachother. What the fuck did you expect?

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>Black Division

Fucking niggers.

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>>175151713
Whatever you say Alex

>>175150993
Sometimes they are a bit weird like that. Try reverse, and telling them to look the other way and then move or reverse.

Sometimes it'll unstick them.

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>>175151751
rude

>>175151909
Tell me what part of my post is incorrect. Discord pulls money from Tencent and is a clear circlejerk platform that's very popular with normalfags. If proprietary software is offered for "free", always assume the company is making money by selling you.

>>175152202
>always assume the company is making money by selling you.

I completely agree with you, I just think saying something is shit because its popular is laughable.

Discord beats pretty much all competition when it comes to good call hosting for vidya, I really couldn't care less if someone wants to datamine my friends and I calling each other salty cucks.

>>175151751
where is it from?

>>175149692
Discord is just mumble bolted on to a chat client

>>175097547
>>175101234

dude have you seen /simg/? and /a3g/ before it? no discord ever is the best rule

discord is filled with literal 16 year olds. no go zone, no go zone.

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>>175153360
>he didn't get into the secret discord
lmao

>>175153484
discord is filled with literal 16 year olds. no go zone.

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so, all the divisions with their incomes and descriptions are all listed now

if only eugene would actually add them instead of making balance changes before people even get to play everything

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>>175153526
what did he mean by this

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Hey, I got banned from one of the discords for some reason. Mind telling me what's up?

>>175094904
I'm pretty sure you have 3 Panzerjägers and 3 Marders or so.

>>175151751
>>175153642
I expect that several of those division will be a balance nightmare on release because Eug/Parajew can't into sensible decisions.

>>175153642
>The 716. was formed of men too old, too young or too sick to be sent to the front

Can't wait to play it, sounds super fun!

>>175153642
could you post the rest?

and all the tooltips? :>

>>175154017
They sound like they'll be worse arty spam than the 17th

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have there been any naziboos asking for jet bombers yet?

>>175153642
Reading this kinda made me wish I had money to buy the game.
I want to play with the luftlande division even though I know its shit

>>175154528
I saw someone ask for the Me 262. Not that it'd make much of a difference to German decks since every single one carrying out ground attack was shot down.

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>>175151751
WHAT YOU SAY TO ME KURWA?????????

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>>175154660
they are just jealous

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>>175154139
left out the currently playable ones

>>175155212
Thank you!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGrxHO-B2TY

NEED GAD

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>>175155248
no problem m8

I'm really looking forward to 101st, canuckistanis and windhund

>>175155460
>the gentlemen
*tips 17-pdr*

>>175155212
>Allies wreck house in Phase A
>Axis steamrolls everyone Phase C
I dunno, this doesn't seem like it would make for very fun battles.

>>175155212
> 101st Airborne get M22 Locusts, which were only used in Operation Varsity and then by the 6th, never by the Americans
Fucking hell Eugen if you're going to pick a historical campaign and claim historical ORBATs stick to them, don't bitch out and half-arse it.

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>>175155212
>phase A Achilles

>>175155638
Gentlemen in the context of British cavalry regiments means homoerotic drinking games, snazzy uniforms and opening expensive champagne with sabres.

>>175114939
EE==SD>ALB>RD

>>175155212
>Two decks get meme tigers

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>101st is going to have Wolverines but not the 3rd AD

>>175150993
Maybe they are far away from commander and not recieving an order?

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map list got an update, too

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>>175157682

Shit. I buy the game the moment they add Mont Ormel and 1st Armored.

So would I be correct in the assumption that SD's modtools will not allow us to fix the wildly ahistorical Division lineups post-release?

Examples being the above mentioned imaginary Locusts, the lack of 17 pounder Achilles' in the 15th, as well as their use of Daimler Armoured Cars and Humber IIIs instead of Humber LRC IIIs and Humber IVs for recce, while the GAD get Humber IVs but not Daimler Dingoes or Armoured Cars in their Recce options, and that's just from the Brit Divisions.

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>>175155212

>716 Infantry will have an even bigger artillery focus than 17th SS

>>175158276

Actually creating custom divisions with their own TO&Es is the only thing the mod tools WILL let you do.

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>>175156945
This man understands me

>>175158387
Really? What a fucking waste of mod tools.

>>175158589

That's because there aren't any actual mod tools Eugen is developing, they're merely making some of the data files open for modification, their "mod tools" are Notepad++

>>175158589
Not really.
They said you will be able to mod models for example.

>>175158565
Everyone who played since EE and has taste should concur.

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>tfw we're not getting the Big Red One

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>>175093391
Any Supreme Commander players here?

>>175159614
Always CoD WWII for that mate :^)

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>>175156945

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>>175159646
ofc

>>175159646
This is literally and objectively the best RTS in existence.

>>175161414
Total Annihilation is better

>>175158773
Modern Day mod incoming :^)

>>175162043
inb4 made by Ruskies so it has an inherent Ruskie bias, I predict a T-90 with 30 AP cannon, 35 frontal armour and 20 in sides and back.

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All 14 maps for launch, excluding any 10v10 we havent seen yet.

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Any suggestions to improve my Scots deck?

>>175163005
Replace all AAA with 3 cards of Tri-Polstens as they are all you need, you just have to bait enemy fighters near them and they get vaporised.

Take one less card of Challengers and take the phase B Honeys for the mobile firepower they offer. You should probably add more phase A riflemen. One thing about the PIATs is that the MMG Carrier they come in is great for supporting your riflemen so they are quite a cost effective buy. You may also need more ASFs. If you can use your 17pdrs effectively you won't need as many Wolverines. Take a card of Dingos if you can, as they are a cheap and mobile command unit that can suppress enemy infantry.

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>KV-1 just rolls into my gulley and starts gunning down squad after squad of engineers (ie, my only hope of killing it)
>the thing has THREE fucking guns, so everything on all sides of it is suppressed
>no-one left to deal with the T-34
goddamn it, whoever the hero was who made them bail needs a medal.

>>175163392
Thanks I'll incorporate those suggestions of yours.

I haven't really found much success with the PIATs themselves since their range seems rather short and my opponents won't run their tanks near trees that haven't been cleared.

How do you use them effectively?

>>175157682
>tfw no StLo
>tfw no Cherbourg
>tfw no Caen suburbs
>tfw no Carentan

>>175164192
As purely ambush troops

>>175164192
Your standard rifles lack AT so they are there to ensure that enemy vehicles are forced to keep their distance.

>>175164548
That makes sense

>>175164412
Yeah I've been doing that but my opponent(s) never approach their hiding spots for them to do damage. I suppose they're also there to spook enemy tanks from running over my infantry

>>175164694
Yeah it's purely deterrent, the enemy doesn't approach because they know there will be AT there, but eventually someone's gonna test it and if it turns out you're bluffing you're in trouble.

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>>175163392
>>175164192
Here's what I got after your suggestions, is the 4x Wolverines truly overkill? Not sure what to add if I got rid of either the Phase B or C set

>>175093509
CMANO ?
If not - what game ?
If yes - is there some good guide on how to not suck at this fucking game ?

>>175164192
dedicated AT infantry is useless don't bother with that shit

>>175165098
Possibly not, it depends on your play style and what size games you play. I find that the best way to deal with tanks as the 15th is to deny them map control by seizing it wherever possible, and then proceeding to destroy them ideally with the 17pdr if they attempt to brute force your positions.

The 15th is all about supporting the infantry, and if you can perfect this, you can practically be on the offensive from the start to finish.

>>175165680
It's the most efficient way to deal with tanks close up and deny the enemy aggressive road movement. Brits get the MMG Carrier with the PIATs which has 2 machineguns with 600m range and can often be the difference between winning a firefight or not.

Machineguns are more reliable support than artillery if you can bring them to bear. En masse they can pin enemy AT guns before they can get off more than a single shot.

>>175165098
Looks pretty good to me.

>>175165915
Yeah I feel like I should be flooding the map from left to right with tons of infantry, its quite different playing a division with so much cheap infantry available per slot. I don't think I spam as much as I should, especially since I wasn't taking as much infantry into battle as most players I'd imagine.

>>175166676
That's good, hoping for some winning results when I take em for a spin later

>>175166204
how are you gonna get them close enough without being spotted and/or killed?

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:thinking:

I never realized in history that Germany possessed air superiority in Normandy after playing Steel Division or SS used fireflies

>>175165098
Alright, what's the point of Bren Groups when you can get twice as many bodies to throw into the grinder if you just use Rifles?

>>175167127
hedgerows and ambushes

just look at the maps we have

>>175167228
better defensive fighters, but this should not be something you consider as 15th IMO

>>175165098
More artillery bro, time to go back in time with WW1 tactics

>Play Graviteam Tactics
>Look where foxholes are in the initial order phase
>Place artillery markers on foxholes
>Win game

So this... is... the power of... hardcore wargaming...

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>>175167161

>>175167228
they do more damage at range and cost less, so theoretically it would be good to mix in a few just behind your rifles for a cost-efficient damage increase

I haven't played enough scots to know for sure whether they're a good pick, though

>>175167165
>SS used fireflies
Literally one was captured and used. Dumb I know, but it happened.

>>175161414
I would agree but I haven't played any modern RTS since World in Conflict so I dont know.

>>175160786
Im playing last mission of the expansion and is fucking annoying.
Trial and error on this scale is a bitch.

>>175166887
I honestly don't even use tanks/TDs that much with Scots. Phase A Honeys + ARVE is the extent of it as I'm pushing into the middle of the map. Phase B and C is more using artillery, AT guns and planes to knock out hard targets as the wall of infantry (and any surviving Honeys/ARVE) consolidates and slowly pushes on.

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Guys is off-map arty worth it?

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Poland reveal in 1 hour, are you hype?

>>175170389
No hype until it comes to the fucking game

>>175170314
The really big guns are.

>>175170314
offmap arty a shit

>>175170314
Biggest meme in Steel Division

>>175170314
the bigger guns are, they can really fuck clusters and towns when you're not 17th and can't just hamburglar them

Would the division system work for another Cold War Wargame?

>>175170314
>>175171713
Even the smaller stuff is good at applying free AoE panic to large formations.

Use it to facilitate breakthroughs and mass surrenders, not to get sick picks :^)

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>>175171905
You tell me

>>175171905

Only if they restrict themselves to a very specific scenario in a very specific timeslot. EE spanned 4 scenarios spread across 10 years, RD considered scenarios across 8.

HOLY SHIT
ARE WE BACK?

Which is the best Infantry division?

>>175172084
That isn't cold war at all though. That's this decade.

>>175172143

Back where?

>>175172446
2nd infantry, Rangers rape everything, their command squads are as strong as regular line infantry and their line infantry is big.

>>175172482
>Implying the British Army isn't still using Cold War kit for the most part

http://www.eugensystems.com/steel-division-normandy-44-creating-the-single-player-campaign/

>>175170389
No because it will be shit division which will spam some cheap cromwells in A phase and then watch how they lose everything to panthers during b and c. Like allies really nned another A phase strong meme division. Only the Free Frech TM will be powerful beause eugen bias

>>175172978
Hopefully Guards Armoured won't disappoint with their strong Phase C and Fireflies

>>175172978
Stuarts and m10s are pretty much optimal given whats good in the allies.

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>>175172969
>At Eugen, we learned a lot about single player campaigns from our previous games’ experience

>>175172978

Good thing that most games are decided by territorial gains in phase A then.

>>175173193
Poor Churchills

>>175172978
Best French AT is American 76mm, while Poles (should) get a shitload of 17-pdrs between the towed guns, Fireflies and Achilles.

>>175173193
m10 without any veterancy is super meh, everything depends on how many stars will they have

>>175170314
its ok, but please step down on the toxins dr thrax

>>175172143
yes youre late

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Eh, the next division is 2 DBiase.

>>175172969
>>175173237
RUSE had a really fun campaign.
Especially about that part of WWII where you atom bomb ruskies.

Next division is french, has more shermans than the 3rd armor by a large margin
Eugen has no fucking clue how to deckbuild

>>175175178
They've said it's not final and particulairly that they've already changed availability of tanks in the more recent build.

>>175175005
>phase A M8s
Yes please!

>>175175178
It does appear to have next to no infantry however.

Are there any good Steel Division gameplay videos that are informative and go indepth about the mechanics and differences from Wargame instead of:
"HOW'S IT GOING BROS XXXNIGGERDIGGERXXX BRINGING YOU SOME GAMEPLAY ABOUT THIS NEW GAME DEVELOPED BY PARADOX ABOUT WW2"

>>175162210
Realistic

>>175175515
I quite enjoy VulcanHDGaming, he doesn't have a lot of followers, but he has a decent mic, has a decent knowledge of the game and a very nice voice on top of it all.

He mostly does post match replays, explaining his thoughts and has been doing so since Wargame.

>>175175005
Is that a smoke bomber I see?

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>smoke bomber

>>175175937
>Vulcan
He's a bad player though? Below average.

>>175176079
Ja, smoke bombers are back bby

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>MadMat replies to me in stream regarding M10s in 3AD
>Stops replying when I have a counter argument he can't defeat

>>175176176
>Below average

Thats pretty harsh considering the abysmal abilities of your average player of Eugen games.

He isn't that bad by any stretch.

Is the game balanced for 1v1 up to 4v4? 10v10 is a massive clusterfuck

>>175176382
because you are a dumb fucking frog poster

it's been explained a over and over again why some attached regiments are in and some are not

>hills

N...NANI?!?

>>175176382
>Autistic screeching
>A counter argument

kek

Anybody here knows if the CM: Afghanistan AI or Missions are broken or something? The AI never seems to go down the path it's suposed to to meet me and when they do, by accident they instantly spot all my hidden infantry even though they are on hold fire mode and standing in some bushes on a hill

>>175176491
best in 2-8 players, the game is too specialized for 1v1

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>>175176571
Alri matt

>>175176626
I merely asked why does the 3AD get AA guns when they fall under the same criteria as the TDs

>Eugen is so poor the developers had to record French voices themselves

>>175176857
>some US divisions are in
>LITERALLY ALL US DIVISIONS SHOULD BE IN WHY IS NOT 1ST INFANTY IN THEY FALL UNDER THE SAME CRITERIA REEEEEEEEEEE

this is the same logic you use in your "undefeatable argument"

>>175177130
That's not what I said at all.

Why include the division and then exclude certain elements for no reason?

Don't be a retard mate.