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This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

>Stellaris
- (Future FAQ Pastebin goes here. If you want to contribute, reply to the OP with ideas or excerpts to use!)
- WIP Ship Design Guide for 1.5.1 https://pastebin.com/2QWUPKSh
- Another Ship Design Guide for 1.5 https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/61nolh/ship_equipment_load_out_for_141_15/
- Wiki http://www.stellariswiki.com/Stellaris_Wiki

>Endless Legend
- Manual http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
- Wiki http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Civilization
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - http://www.multiplayerrobot.com
- District Cheat Sheet https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba

>Alpha Centauri
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

Last thread: >>175019650
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>>175076365
>spooder thread
>old thread on page 4
Wasn't your plan to try and force people to make threads themselves?
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I am fond of spiders.
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>>175073704
>>175073943
thanks anons
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Please I need your Stellaris memes. Since making my migration from /gsg/ to /civ4xg/ I have noticed that your meme department is seriously lacking.
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>>175076440
I forgot to check the page. I just saw the last one had more than 750 posts.
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>>175076497
>pandorum and sunshine have nothing to do with post ftl madness
>yeah sunshine was a bit dumb
>AD HOMINEM STRAWMAN LOLOLOL
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>spidershit
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>>175076473
NO WAIT ONE VISION IS A FUCKING MEME DONT DO IT PAL

Border range/core systems are pretty okay tho.
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>>175076651
>being so mad he brings his shit from the last thread
Hey, mate, fuck off.
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>>175076561
Just shop some liquor onto stellaris pictures
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What a nice flag for a fallen xenophobic empire.

"its ironic dude, you wouldn't get it"
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>>175076859
Weeb here. I agree that OP should kill himself.
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>>175076845
you fucking made that post at the last possible second

it is a meme because more unity is pointless once you get all of the perks?
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>>175077016
Yeah. Governing ethics attraction isn't really a big deal anyway, so it's pretty pointless.
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>>175076969
It actually symbolises the hearts of their enemies they tore out.
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>>175076969
They love purging xenos so much they made their flag a heart
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>>175076365
Getting really fucking tired of you.
Please kill yourself you worthless cunt. You are literally a lower form of life than a fucking tick :)
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>>175076592
Ring worlds is general make no sense.
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>>175076842
>>175076859
>>175076996
>>175077107
>getting this triggered
Gee, sure is /gsg/ around here.
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>tfw empty space but shit planets
>want to hinder expansion of other empire
>colonize planets with slave race and hand them over to enlighted protectorate with fat money since I am always capped
>they think I am some kind of god
>formerly spacefarring race is now the bitchbois of some backwards race that was in industrial era just 10 years ago and was just handed over FTL tech
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>>175077068
well in my current game im playing hivemind anyways so it'd be even more useless

I would argue for +10% research but atm i'm only making like 6-10 each so that's silly

so I guess border range it is
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>>175077157
It amazes me people care so much about an OP image no one looks at for longer than 5 seconds.
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>>175076651
>Go to space to do something
>It goes to shit and a series of unnervingly mysterious things happens as the viewer is left with a sense of dread and doubt towards the vastness of space and its possible secrets.
Thats what i meant with my first post, now let it go.
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>>175077157
>offtopic shitposting
>anons reply
>"LOL U'RE JUST TRIGGERED LMAO"
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>>175077247
Honestly, I think people are just desperately looking for an excuse to shitpost.
If the OP wasn't Kumo-chan, they would be complaining about wifi, or pigs.
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>>175077169
>future of europe
kek
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>>175077302
At least its not OILor the problem of consciousness.
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>>175077302
>complaining
>about pigs
But I am fond of pigs
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>>175077384
Or some pretentious bullshit about mining ringworlds or kids throwing stones and getting genocided.

But with Stellaris getting "popular", /gsg/ is becoming more and more of a pain in the ass here. You can already see the casual racism and the forced liquors jokes.
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Rate last creation
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He's doing his best
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>>175077480
>not the ~~SQUALIA starfish
not cute/10
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Should I enslave these meatballs or purge them for lebensraum?
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Pick your poison for the next 100 posts lads


>Discussion of oil and its overall effect on humanity and how it compares to wind, solar, nuclear, coal, etc
>Artificial intelligence and its place in society
>Faster than light travel being un/attainable
>Aliens coming from God knows where and enslaving us
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>>175077464
Fuck you pal.
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>>175077596
starfish can only be fanatical purifiers
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>>175077626
You forgot :
>rate my blob
and
>r8 my species
and also
>man I fucking hate spiders so much I'm going to shitpost about them
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>>175077464
>kids throwing stones and getting genocided.
>still misunderstanding the analogy
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>>175076365
anyone want to play a game of endless legend?
i'm a noob and people online stomp me
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>>175077609
>1st battlestar Galactica
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>>175077626
Artificial intelligence and its place in society
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>>175077626
I'll take ayyliums for 500, Alex.
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>>175077626
Its not our fault that oil is just so much better than every other fuel source and that without it we won't solve the problem of conciousness. Without even that beginning step we won't even be able to create an alcuibbiere drive (that requires non-existent matter and kills everyone) but I guess its a good thing as the first aliens we found would kill so we'd have to purge them first.
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>>175077667
nuh uh they can be militant isolationists too

>>175077626
ayyliens, all hail our grey overlords
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>>175077890
>grey overlords
Our over lords are reptilian ayyyyyyyyyliums though
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>>175077626
Can we do oil and its effects on Mediterranean cuisine instead?
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I like Seven Kingdoms 2.
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>>175078050
>Mediterranean
>cuisine
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Okay, so FE get all pissy if specific thing happens ( researching AI, getting too close etc ).
Can you make them hesitant about attacking if you have too much of an advantage over them ? Or do they go full chimp mode and attack regardless ?
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In real life aliens would actually all be humanoid because of convergent evolution.

Refute me, you simply can't.
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How the fuck did these Slaughterhouse fucks expand like that? There are no frontier outposts there or anything. during our last war I took this entire chunk and cleansed the planets there and the borders barely shrunk. There were NO planets, no outposts. Nothing. And the border still didn't shrink. At the mean time I have colonized planets and outposts out the ass and I still don't have that chunk. These borders don't make sense.
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And this is why nobody play as the Cybrans.
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>>175078169
How about I wear your moron face as a party mask?
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>>175078220
Probably techs and xenophobe.
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>>175078237
How about I wear you on my dick like a condom?
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>>175078220
fanatic xenophobe
nationalist zeal
border range tech
supremacy opener

thats like 130% border range, probably forgot some others
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>>175078237
You got it wrong you filthy jian
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>>175078243
I'm fanatic xenophobe + all research already done. I'm basically going on repeat for all tech.
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>>175077985
that's what the greys want you to think
they're actually in cahoots
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>>175077838
>Its not our fault that oil is just so much better than every other fuel source
LMAO
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Is anyone else impressed by voices for humanoids in Stellaris? They speak gibberish, but the tone is cool.
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>>175078050
Rome was built upon olive oil
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>>175078220
That's a lot of Balts.
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>>175078323
Yeah, I know. I ought to replay EYE.
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>>175078315
Have literally all of those as well.
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>>175078374
MEKUN DANADA BLAES
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>>175078427

yeah, i'm talking about them, not you.
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>>175078498
Yeah, but the thing is I could understand them expanding like that with planets and outpost. but after the war that marked circle had ZERO planets of theirs. Fully cleansed, removed, nuked. Same for outposts. They had NOTHING there. And the border still didn't shrink. That's what I don't understand. Those small islands are basically my colonies surrounded by empty space and they're still that small.
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>>175078624
How long has it been since the war ended? Sometimes border changes take a while to kick in for whatever reason.
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>>175078624

The borders most likely already expanded that much due to their pops and border range%, they just didn't extend further from those nuked planets due to clashing with other's borders.
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>people bitch about terraforming tech
>all you have to do is put a scientist with New Worlds on society research
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>>175078624
Was that space in the red circle empty before? Maybe they took over another empire?
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I am fond of Warcraft 3.
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>>175078780
>instead of waiting to roll the right tech I will wait to roll the right scientist
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>>175078714
A couple years now. It didn't move an inch. If anything their borders GREW. Now i'll need to wait another ~8 years until I can go to war.

>>175078774
Well that's the only scenario. Still it's silly how I have all the possible border expansion shit and it didn't budge. Will just need to cede the planets next time and sector them. That was my mistake I guess.

It's just that right before the war, my border extended to this line. Theirs just exploded out of nowhere in a span of ~1 year. Didn't even understand what the fuck was going on.
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>core systems reduced by 2 in Utopia
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Does anybody know what the "Send home for research"-option does? I really could use the minerals.
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>>175078796
Nope. It was theirs during the war. The pre war and post war borders didn't change at all even tho the circle there had like 9 planets cleansed + 2 outposts. Was at 98 warscore for that. Maybe i'm just retarded. oh well. My mistake was not cede into sectors.
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>>175079056

Gives you a unique edict, better longterm vs good short term choice m8y
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I am fond of Cossacks, be it Back To War or the third one.

Or even the accursed American Conquest.
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>>175079056
Gives you a a 200 day project (doesn't stop any research or use a science ship) which eventually gives you an edict of varying quality.
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>>175078994
Go on and laugh at me. Like I give a fuck. You think I'm upset that you think this is comical? If I'm able to provide some sort of levity to the sad existence you call a life, then so be it.

But maybe instead of laughing you should learn. Try to model your own meager existence off of my own, and you could possibly achieve some of the greatness that I espouse. Maybe you'll stop eating the cum from your girlfriend's pussy after Jamal fucked her for a few hours, and you'll be the one cumming in your girlfriend and Jamal.

Maybe you'll get out of your dead-end job and actually go back to school. Maybe you'll join the military and become an officer after a few years.

Sure, you may never come close to my plane of existence, but you might be able to get at least a taste. I can assure you it will taste better than Jamal's semen.
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>>175079009
borders look almost identical. Your blue line is wack.
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>>175079158
Are you dissing American Conquest?
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>>175077838
> Oil is a fuel source
He says typing on his plastic keyboard+mouse staring at his plastic encased monitor as he wears plastic shoes and eats plastic american cheese treated with plastic preservatives.

The energy output of oil is great, but energy is secondary only to its value as literally every raw material this modern world uses. We could go full green renewable energy overnight and still need the same amount of oil because as a construction product it's second to none.
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>>175079297
Not him, but it's shit m8. Parent series is better. BtW is classic forever, though I'll have to admit it had a lot of balance issues, they're finally getting somewhat tackled in 3.
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https://strawpoll.com/47c67g3

As promised here is the roster poll for our /vg/ League team.

Final roster will have 23 players. Vote for all the players you think should be in.
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I am fond of oil.
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>>175079056
>>175079148
>>175079159
It's not the quality that vary, the edicts are just different, and it depends on the events you get.
Warrior's teaching is the best, gives you +10% naval cap, -15% army maintenance.
Philosophy isn't bad either, you get +1 leader cap and +10% society research.
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>pacifist xenophobe spiritualist democrat
>just want to be left alone but cool with everyone (NAPs)
>only 5 systems and Frontier outposts
>enlighten some militarist molluscs and boost them with money until they become vassals
>complete 4 tradition trees and Transcend
>but...
>2 tradition trees are Domination and Supremacy

The Galaxy is in for a surprise
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>>175079716
What the fuck? Not at all.
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>>175079416
NO I MISSED ONE
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>>175079048
>mfw 00_defines.lua
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>>175079716
Cute things are incapable of evil. It is science fact.
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>>175079873
Its fucking terrible m8 don't waste your time, there is only 1 guy spamming his spider shit.
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>avatarfagging
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>>175079890
>~SQUALIA~
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Novio magnum or alphamod?
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>>175080094
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>>175079873
Do it. Make your own opinion, don't listen to the haters.
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>>175079048
>tfw paradox keeps trying to push a shitty mechanic no one likes instead of either gutting it or fixing it
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>>175080449
>no one likes
I'm sure you can find a retard on Paradox Plaza who (respectfully disagree) with that and thinks it's a good idea.

A shame we can't claim "respectfully disagree" as a meme without triggering /gsg/'s autistic rage.
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>>175080449
And if they made them like CKII vassals everyone would like them.
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>>175080626
Does anything not trigger /gsg/'s autistic rage.
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>>175080697
A cat video, I guess.
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Oh sweet mother of god, FE just declared a war on another FE and they are both close to my borders ...
Shards are Militant isolationists that have 9 planets and 109 pops and Igarians are Keepers of Knowledge with only 5 planets and 58 pops ...

They are both pathetic, compared to me, in terms of fleets but overwhelming in terms of scientific advancements...

Can i join those Igarians ?
Or is it my first War in Heaven ?
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>>175080782
>joining either side in a War in Heaven
>ever

>>175079416
It's The End of the Cycle, not The End of Cycles.
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>>175080782
If its a war in heaven you'll get an event popping up.
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>>175080782
How come you already have them at pathetic but you're still so small?
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>>175080872
I wish you stayed in your general, you're already leaking. See >>175080906.
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>>175080906
breathe
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>>175078374
The non-human humanoids are pretty neat.
Humans though >>175078456
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>>175081175
You'd think they would give the Human empires a nice soothing British voice line, as is tradition. Then again I wouldn't know because I usually have the sound turned down.
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>>175080896
>>joining either side in a War in Heaven
>>ever

>not backing up the cat bros against elven faggotrons who already threatened and humiliated me once

>>175080962
Good to know. Can two FE fight a normal war or is it always War in Heaven when two FE fight each other ?

>>175081000
Im not small, i have the biggest pop count in the entire galaxy.
25 planets, 257 pops.
That plus mods etc and their fleet power is pathetic, cpacity is equivalent - i fucked up.

>>175081087
Cropping nigga, ever hear about it ?
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>>175081306
>as is tradition
Swords of the Stars had them sounding Russian.
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are there any mods you would consider must-have to play stellaris?
I currently play with multiple crises but not much else
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>>175081396
fucking leafs
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>>175081508
Cropping.
And turned off anti aliasing and every other effect because i play on 2k stars galaxy with lots of Ai's.
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>mfw I've been reading Dune
>Bene Gesserit sells concubines to rich people, but secretly have their own agendas
>Mentats are human calculators who are trained to be cynical and pragmatic
>Bene Tleilax could resurrect famous people and trusted advisors
>members of a same empire could have different culture and technology (like the Harkonnens having slaves pit)

And then I look at Stellaris.
And I sigh.
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>>175081175
Yeah I mean non-humans mostly. Though I had slav-sounding gibberish which sounded pretty cool.
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Any way to completely wipe out a faction? Fucking equality faction just popped up in my slaver empire
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>>175082180
Yes. The Harkonnen way.
It involves torture, slavery, more torture, and murder.
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>>175082180
Nope, they removed selective purging so you're stuck with them unless you can lower ethics divergence on the worlds they show up in until they eventually fall back into line.
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>>175082180
Use this http://www.stellariswiki.com/Ethics_attraction and caste system since slaves cant join faction
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>>175082180
>>175082293
If you enslave a whole faction, it disappears.
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>>175080697
Can somebody explain what /gsg/ is to a newfriend?
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>>175082459
It worked
Thank you senpai
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>>175082180
With F. Spiritualism you can ramp the governing ethics attraction up to as high as 120%
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>>175081757
You should think of the factions and the empire in dune more like the HRE. Ya they all bow to the same guy but the power they weild and the way they act is more akin to a nation and if memory serves any house can have one of thier members become emperor.
Also is there a way to close borders to everyone fuck these guys and thier science ships.
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>>175082541
Grand Strategy General.
The one who decided that Stellaris wasn't fit for them, the one who shitposted when we tried to change our name to /strategy games general/, and if you see a post about niggers being born to be slaves, "rate me", or Hitler doing nothing wrong, you can be sure it's /gsg/.
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>>175082541
gsg is like a 4x under an autism microscope. Instead of planets you have counties. Instead of decades you have days. Instead of armies you have platoons. Instead of "resources" you have wood/iron/gold/potassium/russian toy dolls.

Shit like that.
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>not just liking strategy games
Sure sounds like elitism in here (and in /gsg/ too)
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>>175082682
>spoiler
declare rivalry or just close borders. It's in the diplomacy menu man.
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>>175082682
Yeah. That's why the Duke get betrayed by the Emperor.
And also why Shaddam's planet is a prison planet.
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>>175082942
I know but I mean I want to do it to everyone in the galxy. They already hate me and closed thier borders to me I dont really wanna go through every nation and tell them close borders.
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>>175082682
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>>175082682
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>warscore is 2 % after a year or so
>still no War in Heaven event

FUUUCK. Get your shit together catbros.
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>>175083531
If you don't have leviathans or they aren't of the opposing Ethos they won't start a war in heaven
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>>175083531
Don't mistake elves and dark elves.
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>>175083616
I have Leviathans.
Keepers of Knowledge and Militant Isolationists are not exactly opposite ethos tho..

>>175083712
>implying i care
They insulted me, they die.
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>>175083829
Mixing elves and dark elves is like mixing Americans and Mexicans.
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How do you get humans to recognize other humans as the same species the way unity/earth humans do? I want to make a custom human empire with UNE somewhere in the galaxy
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>>175083829
>Keepers of Knowledge and Militant Isolationists are not exactly opposite ethos tho..
There you go
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>>175082739
You sound like a carebear.
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>>175084223
So i have no choice but to simply declare war on faggotrons ?
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>>175084115
You edit both Commonwealth to your liking and UNE to your liking too. Both Humans must have same names, traits and portraits. Then you force your modified UNE to appear in game. Downside is that I think you'll have to start in Deneb.
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>>175078925
Warcraft 3 was a good game, imbalanced as fuck on so many levels but that's the blizzard you pay for. the game has character and you can tell people put heart into it. and i'm a total faggot for the entire story, so I was therefore forced to play WoW thru Wrath when the story stopped mattering.
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>>175084482
Warcraft 3, just like Halo, had a massive impact on video games, causing everyone and their mothers to add heroes to strategy.
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Reminder that Elf woman exist to serve big Arthropoid cock

pussy ass Elf boys can't even compete
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>>175084820
>Elf boys
What's an "elf boy"?
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>>175083712
S-sauce?
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>>175084989
remove elf
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>>175085068
Elf-san wa Yaserarenai.

I hope you like them EXTRA T H I C C because the manga is about monster girls getting fat and trying to stay fit.

>>175085087
Elves aren't for removal. They're for rape.
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>>175084820
Elf boys mad that their woman gonna get BUGGED
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>>175085181
>ongoing
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Why is this plantoid and not fungoid. Does it not look like a fungus to anyone else?
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>>175085396
Remember, EXTRA THICC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwxGWgiIg
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>They don't play as uppity supremacist elves
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>>175085582
>it's an elvish faggot episode
Fuck outta here.
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>warscore at 92%
>occupying every single planet I can get to
>shitty empire I'm occupying made a defensive pact with some literally who halfway across the galaxy
>their ally can't even send any ships here since the galaxy is ring shaped and they're boxed in by closed borders
>can't get any more warscore
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>>175085582
Elves are for rape
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>>175085582
REMOVE YOURSELF
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>not raping then dismembering and eating elves before you shit all over their houses
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Was going to reinstall sc2, looking for an rts to keep me sharp. Any recommendations, or just stick with it?
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>>175085582
Elves are for spanking and whatever humiliating, painful fetish you have.
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>>175085898
>eating elves
Do you want dangerously high levels of mercury in your body?
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>>175085582
https://youtu.be/rvJsG4F2Img
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>>175084820
>Arthropoid cock
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>>175085783
>>175085870
>>175085880
>>175085984
>>175086006
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>>175085493
Seems like good Thicc to me. I've seen worse.
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>>175086006
>tfw can't play as space Dwarves

Dwarf portraits when?
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>>175086152
Why would an elf call others sub-humans, they're not even fucking human.
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>>175086152
I want to put my dick in her butthole while she screams and beg.

>>175086168
That's reasonable, healthy thicc. Not inflation thicc.
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>>175085582
>he doesnt have elf slaves
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>>175086190
>posts playable dwarves
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>>175086338
>chattel
>not domestic
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>>175086190
u wot m8
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Haven't played since before 1.5 dropped.

Is there a way or a mod to purge empires that I conquer into oblivion and either place their homeworld under an impenetrable slave shield for eternity or make them into battle thrall vassals to fight wars for me.
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>>175085848
>Know where that image is from
Fuck you why do you have that image
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>>175085582
I play as rational atheist space elves.
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>>175086225
Mangos aren't known for their intelligence.
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>>175086410
Where is that image from?
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>>175086379
a. they are from syncretic evolution, so I liek the minerals
b. I am spiritualist and I dont need the happiness

Let the bitch-elves die in the mines
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>>175086410

where's it from
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>>175086521
But the RPing anon!
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>>175086190
>Industrious
>Fanatic Materialists
Do you have any idea of what youre getting into
>>
Could I get a quick rundown on Mastery of Terrain and why it's so good?
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>>175086358
>>175086386
i mean actually official dwarves from paradox, not shitty mods that aren't animated with no sound
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>unbidden appear near me
>they have 5 fleet 60k each
>they jump one by one into my doom stack and get killed easily
What a let down
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>>175086570
The RPing was about having a species of spiritualist intellectuals that rely on others for manual labour, its not my fault the game rolled me elves
But this is soon to change >>175079728 now that I found the shroud, I am probably going to eat them, Minotaur style
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>>175086571
>Dwarves
>not industrious miners
>not obsessed with mining for material wealth

do you?
>>
>Play as hive mind
>Want to uplift some pre-sentients into the hive-mind fold to get their Irradiated species onto some Tomb worlds
>You can't uplift as a hive mind

>Settle planet
>Want to get rid of it
>No way to do it

>Building Dyson Sphere
>Want to build Science Array
>Can't build more than one megastructure at a time

>Get 5/6 precursor anomalies
>Wait for like 100 years to get the last one
>Get it
>The precursor planet is in another empire's borders
>Get there in time to see that empire researching the anomaly on the precursor homeworld

[autistic screeching]
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>>175086006
What game is that from?
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>>175086781
Sounds good
Dont forget to always sell your minerals for money
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>>175086889
The sprites are from "Shadow of the Horned Rat". But they don't say that in the game.

Google "Ravendill's Quest".
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>>175083531
>Dark Elves

mod?
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>>175086538
Its a video of said bird that goes back to its nest to find that its offspring died from heat stroke, i think it made its nest inside a metal box or something like that with an open side.

The bird just stays there god knows how long suffering
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>>175087042
>>175087042
LoversLab site.
There is elf and drow mod there.
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>>175087059
Jesus that's sad now.
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>>175087131
LoversLab has a stelleris section?
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>>175087059
I thought animals were too stupid to feel emotions, and that it was a human thing?
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>>175087059
;__;7

>>175087223
Shared CK2 and Stellaris section and desu CK2 makes 99% of the mods there :)
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How many fortresses are too many?
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>>175086781
Well you can do it if youre not going to build any robots, your pops will literally be better at the one thing theyre good at.
You could change it to thrifty i guess.
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>>175086874
>precursor planet appear in my empire
>tons of science ships start pouring in
>immediately close border with every one of them
my precious
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>>175076365
How do you slap extra large weapons onto ships?

I tried to re-design a battleship and I don't see any X slots.
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>>175075838
Space Opera is literally just napoleonic to victorian era politics and naval battles, but in space. That's the entire point.
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>play the Fall of Rome scenario in Civ V as Goths
Holy fucking shit these Roman roads are killing my income

>>175087279
Nobody actually knows what animals feel, but it's not human feelings. Sometimes there's common ground (generally speaking animals don't like seeing their children die) but other times there's no common ground (hamsters cannbalize their kids)
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>>175087401
You don't get the module option until you actually have X weapons.

And if you still don't have them it's a bug.
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>>175086874
>Get there in time to see that empire researching the anomaly on the precursor homeworld
Pretty sure other empires cant steal anomalies and projects.
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>>175087059
>>175087165
Its just people anthropomorphize animals
Her offspring died indeed of heat stroke she is just trying to cool herself(rapid breathing, hanging open wings), anyone ever owned birds will tell you that(yes I did own birds I know what I am talking about).
Her offspring died because most birds are borderline retarded and she couldnt figure out that the heat was because of the metal box, not a general situation
She is still inside hyperventilating because she is also too retarded to figure out her chicks are dead
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>>175087279

Humans are unique in more abstract thought, pre-planning, self-awareness and complex interactions. We're not even totally unique for any one of those necessarily either.

I mean i'm not saying animal emotion is the same as human emotion, we simply don't know, but they definitely feel something similar to it.
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>>175087389
Naughty.

>>175087524
They scanned the system before I did, and got the anomaly. The scanning beam looks different from the "researching anomaly" beam so that's how I could tell.
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>>175087524
They can, if the AI scans a system before you, you won't get any anomalies
>>
/civ4xg/ - Birds
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4x with chode orbital and combat mechanics when?
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Dunno if they can be sad, but dogs can definitely panic.
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>Vool, Shard and Conservers are all FE

>""""""""""""""""""random""""""""""""" empire placement
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>>175087617
Wait
So exchanging star charts is the most retarded thing you can do?
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>>175087314
When you literally can't make another one in the system.
Once you've reached that point of the game literally everything is just a vanity project.
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>>175087719
> Cats_react_to_cucumbers.webm
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>>175087782
Please tell me you dont do this
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>>175087826
I d-did
More than once, i thought there would be no use exploring places i couldnt colonize
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>>175087314
>1.2 k food

You are eating slaves dont you, sick fuck
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>>175087782
Yes but not for the reason you're thinking. Trading star charts won't reduce the amount of anomalies you'll find because they've already been scanned regardless of whether you have their data. You're not going to get the planetary Survey corp bonus if you're not scanning though
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>>175087748
I got 3 FE next to me too. But they're all on one side so they protect my flank. Game is much easier because of that.
>>
Do leader lifespan techs apply to existing leaders retroactively?
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>>175087912
On a second thought, its not bad all, if i cant get the anomalies either way at least i will know where to go to get untouched systems.
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>>175087782
Yes. Literally retarded.

If another AI empire has a star chart, they've scanned the system so you won't get any anomalies from it, but you also get no:
>experience for scientists
>science for Planetary Survey Corps

If you buy star charts from the Curators or something you're extra retarded because you miss out on the anomaly chance too.

It sucks, but that's how the game is built. You can't re-scan for anomalies or any other reason.
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>>175087531
Doesn't make it any less sad for the lil' birds.
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>>175087912
You idiot, you are gimping yourself
Dont do this again
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>>175081757
>Dune
Kinda sucks that the male-only group is pure evil but the all female group is a necessarily grey.
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>>175087943
Nah, the sectors just really like their farms.
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>>175087825
Cats are definitely assholes.
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>>175088206
Those children probably deserved it
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>>175088119
What male-only group? The Bene Tleilax seems only motivated by money. The Bene Gesserit has no problem with killing, torturing and manipulating people.
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>displacement takes 50 years to complete
>it takes 5 years less than a dyson sphere to kick people out of a country
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>>175087531
If it was a raven or parrot it could be smart enough to grieve.
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>>175088636
Corvids best bird
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>>175077626
Why don't we talk about spiderweeb hijacking the general to post his fetish shit again when he doesn't even play any 4x games
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>>175088514
But hey, at least you won't be hated until the heat death of the universe! Probably.
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>>175077675
LIKE
CLOCKWORK
>>
150 stars elliptical galaxy or 400 stars spiral galaxy?
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>tfw this is in my homeworld border range
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>>175087719
Dogs do feel emotions, they're on the end where that's possible. Our recent studies in that field are yielding positive results.

Anon's point was just that most birds are too stupid for that.
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>>175087531
Some animals are smart enough to grieve, particularly domesticated ones or apex predators
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>>175088982
What about Tok'ra?
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>>175088949
Hope you like crystals!
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>>175087314
Frankly, late game, fortresses just become a speedbump. That flower will slow the AI fleets down as they deal with each one, but since they don't have the range to support each other, they'll just be popped one-by-one with the AI losing nothing but time.
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>>175088949
>crystal growths on the rocks
Make sure to mine it as soon as possible!
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>>175088949
Yeah go ahead mine it up what could go wrong? :^)
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>>175088949
You can mine one of them for a mean time of 30 years.
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>>175081757
I never read Dune but most of the stuff youre saying is in already or is unfeasible

>Bene Gesserit sells concubines to rich people, but secretly have their own agendas
This wouldnt work in a multi-species environment and would have to be uncomfortably specific to species, not something the leader of galactic empire would worry about.

>Mentats are human calculators who are trained to be cynical and pragmatic
Isnt this the same as minmaxing pops with genetics

>Bene Tleilax could resurrect famous people and trusted advisors
This is going into non sci-fi territory now, i can understand cloning, making immortal and stuff but ressurection regardless of circumstance?

>members of a same empire could have different culture and technology (like the Harkonnens having slaves pit)
>Legalize slaves
>Never enslave any pops
There, you can pretend you have only privately owned slaves, yes i know its not the same but i think youre asking a bit much, pops having different ethics and factions is troublesome enough.

It seem what you want is too specific, theres a deal of pretend necessary to play Stellaris and even then its a game about roleplaying space empires in a galactic stage, it cant do everything.
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>>175088314
The Tleilax are all male. They either have an 'all women barefoot in the kitchen' culture or their women are mindless flesh tanks for genetic experiments depending on what you read.

Meanwhile the Gesserit's actions were ultimately necessary and beneficial for the most part.

The book waxes on about how awful and foul and ugly the Tleilax are, while the Bene Gesserit are all basically superior to non-members and generally right about most things where they don't directly conflict with Paul or Leto II.
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>>175089465
>This wouldnt work in a multi-species environment
Galactic perverts senpai. That or you use genetic material from other species to clone special concubines for them.
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>>175089465
No, what I meant is that the galaxy isn't limited to empires or duchies.
How can I say it... There's no "neutral" faction with their own agenda in Stellaris. Except maybe the crisis, but they're hostile to everyone.

>>175089539
>Gesserit's actions were ultimately necessary and beneficial
t. Witch
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>>175089065
I miss Stargate ;__;
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>>175089539
>Meanwhile the Gesserit's actions were ultimately necessary and beneficial for the most part.

Yeah, by total accident. They only wanted to breed a kwisat haderact to enhance their own power, not for alturistic motives. They had no idea about the Golden Path.
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>>175089757
Goold?
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>>175086636
It lets you skip 10 bio techs and can get you going faster if you're going super wide, but it's not a late game pick. Works best if you can get migration treaties to fill your planets up fast, else the tiles you clear are just sitting there just as useless as before.
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>>175089681
There would be assexuated species and others with no interest, of course the extreme xenophilia would be there but it would still be too specific, we could get a building that does that on its own, but actually managing the operation yourself is too much.
People here have a tendency of asking for stuff that should be entirely a private interest as an empire wide concern.

The building though is a nice idea, it could work with trading and slave trading and could return credits or some other funnier stuff like diplomatic influence
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>>175090018
Anon, just read the book and how it describes Tleilax vs Gesserit. The first is described like ugly idiot monsters. The second is described like wise ubermensch who happen to be bitches.

Then look at the characters. All Tleilax are shitty, pathetic villains who you hate. Gesserit are divided up between protagonists and threatening, competent villains.
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>>175085181
That was a pretty fun read.
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>>175089692
I see what you mean, you want city-states from civ then? The enclaves are a bit like that but too simple i know, you want stuff that can influence the galactic stage but not be an actual empire?

In a way every empire is a neutral faction with their own agenda though. No empire is really evil, morals are a matter of perspective.
There are even factions inside empires but they all have empire related agendas.
>>
>>175090841
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>moral relativism
>>
>Build ringworld
>Alt tab out of the game and check on it for a second every 10 minutes or so
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>>175090992
~
observe
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>>175090841
>no empire is really evil
Agreed, except for fanatical purifiers they're straight up evil and you know it.
>>
Anyone play with 0.25x habitable planet? How was it?
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>>175091182
It fucks you over for crisis and AE's because of the fleet cap.
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>>175091131
Do you think they consider themselves evil?

>>175090936
What are you even trying to say
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>>175091131
>ensure the survival of your own species against any potential threat
>evil
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Should I?
I've left the last of the four FEs alone so far out of laziness and wanting to build things up in my own borders for the moment.
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>>175091263
>Do you think they consider themselves evil?

Who gives a shit, it doesn't count if you judge yourself

t. greatest philosopher in /civ4xg/
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>>175091182
I always play on 0.25x planets.

I do recommend Stellar Expansion Terraforming, and maybe Stellar Expansion Terraforming Extreme, though. They let you eventually terraform all terrestrial planets, though some of the techs you don't get til a bit later in the game.

It does make the early game pretty difficult, and your empire is going to be stretched thin unless you get lucky.
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>these fire rate bonuses

Feels gud mang
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>>175091263
It doesn't matter what they think because literally every other form of sentient life in the galaxy is in unanimous agreement that they are, even other fanatical purifiers.
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>>175089131
>>175089145
>>175089154
>>175089438
I didn't really enjoyed the crystals
And now, enlight them would be another huge fuck up?
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>>175091456
Attack rate is amazing. Shield regen absorbs a load of damage so once you're over that hurdle everything else is pure gravy.
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>>175091456

>have 100% increased fire speed
>1 ship is basically 2 ships now

The stat is 2gud
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>>175091456
Git on my level
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>>175091785
Yeah and missing a shot doesn't sting so much when you can shoot faster.
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>>175091565
What matters or not is inconsequential.
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>>175091993
>what matters doesn't matter
Let me ask you a question, how high are you right now anon?
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>i fell for the warp meme
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>>175091734
Enlightening is fine, if you're not bothered about the world they're on or a trait they have leaving it on aggressive observation is fine.
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>>175092248
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>>175092259

Better than falling for the hyperlane meme
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>>175076969

In their species it is a cock.
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>>175092475
The appendage used for loving recreation?
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>>175092319
too be fair their system has like 5 gas giants i could have builded around mining stations, would be sad for me to eventually lose them because some ungrateful fag thinks the gas is not mine
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>>175077068

Governing ethics attraction is an indirect way to get resources through happiness.
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>>175092541

The genital used for brutal murderrape.
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>>175092548
By the looks of it they're still medieval or earlier so theres no real worry of that
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>>175092597
Female Hyenas can do the same with their massively enlarge clits
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>>175092384
But what if it's a hyperlane only game?
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>>175092646
Steam Age, they are just building their first industries
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>>175092248
Please anon dont let me offend your intelligence
Do the purifiers stop purifying because everyone thinks theyre meanies?
Answering this question, you might arrive at the conclusion that, what everyone thinks of them does not matters to their own perspective, and if it did, then it would matter.
>>
>>175078080

>Your top spy kills the enemy king, triggering a civil war.
>he gets elected as the new king

Good times.
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>>175092702

I know

It's hot
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>>175092713
That's the only way you're supposed to play hyperlanes.
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>>175092775
They're more likely to nuke themselves once they hit the atomic age, if you're really worried about them becoming an empire invade them in the early space era.
>>
Amplitude's website updated. What meme shit is this?
https://enfer.games2gether.com/

Hopefully ARG for surprise release day extra content reveal.
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>unknown fallen empire and I fight against the same federation
>See them bombing a planet I really need for the warscore
>land my troops seconds before they can land their own
>after a short standoff their ships start firing at me without a deceleration of war
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>>175092702
>>>/ztg/
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>>175092963
Which was a very dumb idea
>>
>time to start draconian space templars in a medium size galaxy!
>three fe spawn on my borders, up, down and left

reeeeeeeee
>>
>>175093105

>he fell for the battleship meme
>he didn't fall for the corvette meme
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>>175093161
More like
RIIIIIIIIIGHT
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>>175093105
However, after I won the war and I encountered them ,due to the huge size of land I won, I had no penalty for destroying half their fleet.
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>>175093263
Probably because they attacked you
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>>175093263
Did you tell them not to bully you?
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>>175093203
It's true, anon. Surprisingly they don't hate me.
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>>175093398
Already won this war. They're currently being processed into delicious food.
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>>175093540
No, I mean if they are to the left, top, and bottom, just go to the right.
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>>175093603
I think neutering is a more fun end for Fallen Empires, forced to watch themselves slowly die out.
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Is unity of any use if I have every tradition and ascension perk?
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>>175093667
If we go down that road livestock is the biggest humiliation.

However playing fanatic purifiers and process everyone to food really feels like the ending of gantz.
>>
>Be Egalitarian
>Not Materialist
>Build Synths
>Egalitarian faction suddenly pissed because Synths have no rights
>Can't change their rights
>Can't dismantle them

Well then.

Inb4 >Being Egalitarian
I learned my lesson
>>
>>175093709
Nope
>>
>Piss weak vassal of a piss weak empire keeps sending you insults
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>>175092384

There really should be a late game tech that lets you build and close hyperlanes.
Space empires had it.
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>>175093840
Livestock still gives them the hope of returning to their past grandeur, with neutering they have to watch knowing that their extinction at the hands of a race they mocked is inevitable.
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>>175092702
Only spotted hyenas. The other two-three species of hyena don't have those.
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>>175093614
Ah.

Well, yeah, that's what I did.
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>>175093948
It would be nice if there was a mid/late game event where you discovered the secrets of hyperlanes.
>>
Devastator or Neutron lads?
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>>175093924
Are insults of any use actually? I'm wondering if you could use it to get an empire to attack you so you'll trigger defensive pact + Harmony tradition bonus for defensive wars.
>>
>>175094024
What do you think caused them to evolve like that?
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>>175094104
Neutron for shield deletion
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>>175093924
>hey fucker
>fuck you
>piss off
>I kill you
>just watch
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>>175094104
>something that is hard countered by the time you get them
>something that counters defences by the time you get them
Hmmm
>>
Empire placement setting, cluster or random?
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>>175093924

A piss weak vassal of a piss weak empire got the final hit on the unbidden portal when I did all the work. Yes, I was pissed.
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>>175094135
Probably something similar to ducks have corkscrew penises and maze vaginas because of all the rape.
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>>175094135
The theory is that's for dominance displays (since their dominance is usually enforced by making weaker males and females lick their psuedopenis or by assraping them with it) and/or to prevent rape.
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pls
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>>175094321
Sometimes I wonder if Paradox actually use playtesters.
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>>175091456
>expired ejaculates
>>
AI always has a more powerful fleet than me unless they are pacifist or empires that get cucked and have all their land stolen

how do I fix this
>>
>>175094473
Same here, I'm so noob.
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>>175094627
>>175094473

I'm currently on my first playthrough but I'm eating all those fallen empires. Its just really important to design your ships well and have multiple classes for multiple situations (i.e. cruiser with disrupter, cruiser with plasma, cruiser with PD)
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>>175094104
Devastator definately.
>>
>>175094627
>>175094473
I might use cheats for cash and minerals at times, helps me develop
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>>175094473
>>175094627
Autistically focus on minerals specially since thats the most important thing to have and how in the fuck do you even play this game at all without doing that anyway
>>
>>175094473

Dont always go for the long term techs.
If you see bigger ship tech, take them immediatly. You cant compensate for lack of battleships with more corvettes, trust me.
>>
I wish war in Stellaris wasn't such an awful game of cat and mouse.
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Thoughts?
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>>175094902
Jesus
How fucking bad are you
Game is so fucking easy
>>
>>175093709
How did you get ring world construction by 2400?
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>>175095005

>designed to impregnate
>little girls
>not charismatic
>not extreme xenophile
>>
>>175095005
How are they going to impregnate if they're cute anime girls. How are they xenophobic if they want to impregnate everyone
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>>175095042
I could've had it like 100 years previously. I had 5 ascension perks back then if I recall correctly.
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>>175095005
>minmaxing RP factions
>>
Is there any reason to play pre-made factions? Is there something added to them?
>>
>>175095005
>Repugnant
>Spiritualist
>Xenophobe
Besides the obvious ones, i have no idea how Spititualist fits here
>>
>>175095005
> Nepnep
> Repugnant
LEAVE BEFORE I BAN Y
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>>175095025
Not him, but I'm really bad at this game I get obliterated by AI.
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>>175095267
CoM has one or two story missions unique to them but outside of that no.
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>>175095098
>implying you need to be charismatic to rape someone's womb
>implying you have to like or love someone to impregnate them
Anon pls

>>175095107
They're enslavers, dummy.

>>175095282
It's their religion obviously, that's why they seek to impregnate the universe.

>>175095335
Repugnant in the sense that they don't get along with other species. Really, the trait should be named differently
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>>175095343
Alright thank you
Any word on pre-ftl scenarios from paradox itself?
>>
>>175095005

Try this:

Extreme xenophile
Spiritualist

Adaptive (to accomodate alien reproductive organs)
Charismatic
Decadent
Fleeting (thats why they feel the urge to reproduce quickly)
Intelligent


Imperial
Cutthroath politics (they fight over cute reproductive slaves)
Philosopher king
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>>175095429
>I sure hate those aliens but I love it when they birth my children
>>
>>175095025
It's not that, I need to constantly do things, like update every available building, build every available station and so on
I have trouble waiting for the resources to pile up
>>
>>175095339
Holy shit
Reduce the number of empires by 3 or more and expand like a fucking rabbit until theres nothing left, then build habitats and ring worlds
ON
EVERY
FUCKING
STAR
AND PLANET
Above all focus on minerals early on. Dont let it pile up unless youre going to build a mega
>>
>>175095429

Your idea is garbage mate and your rebuttals are ridiculous
>>
>>175095478
They're supposed to be enslavers though.

>>175095498
Nobody said it had to make sense to a human!

>>175095586
Not at all.
>>
>>175095517
Wow
Stop being fucked in the head and do things like a proper human being.
>>
>>175095660
At this point you might as well admit you just wanted an anime portrait race.
>>
>>175095713
Well of course. Conquering the galaxy with cute is just a bonus
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>>175095660
> You jerks will never understand my super special OC!
>>
Is there a way to make AI empires starting position more evenly?
>>
Can I be a non-spiritualist, have a migration treaty with a psyonic species, give them full citizenship and get scientists who can research psyonics?

I don't get why the shroud is locked behind spiritualism
>>
>have a combined fleet power of ~82k
>equivalent in power to the most powerful empires in the galaxy

How the fuck

You'd think they'd have those monster 200k fleets by now
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how the fuck do I deal with this
>>
>>175096170
lube up
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>>175096147
Until they awaken FE's aren't super strong.
>>
>>175096306
not sure if serious
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New to Stellaris, not sure where to drop a colony here. I'm guessing on the physics?
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>>175096145

yOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE SHROUD FOR IT TO WORK YOU DUMB ATHEIST
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>>175095896
Anyone?
>>
>>175096480
Spamming energy torpedo+plasma corvettes works.
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>>175096545
I'd drop it on the tile surrounded by tile blockers, once they're cleared the adjacency bonuses will be decent if you're not going to specialise the planet. If you're going to specialise for science then drop it on the 2 energy tile.
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>>175096545
Sure you need it? That stuff is just 13 tiles, if you're playing without mods you'll find it lacking in production and unable to abandon it.
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>>175095978
Aggressive starfish memes are truly the best
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r8 muh not!egyptians

missiles are pretty decent in this mod i'm using]
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>>175096545
Yeah, that's where I'd put it.

But:
>13 tile planet
Unless you need the borders, or have no other options, skip this planet and try a larger one.
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>>175096569
The Shroud isn't real. Psychic is bullshit.

t. fanatic materialist
>>
>>175096545
> 13 world
Discard it. Baby worlds are worth less than nothing. Go big or go home.
>>
>>175096784
You know the lower classes in real life anicent egypt weren't slaves right? The pyramids being built by slaves is a myth.
>>
>>175096569
But I can believe in it, just you know, not have my government revolve around it
>>
>>175096587
instead of plasma could I use matter disintegrators?
>>
>>175096678
>>175096824
>>175096862
But it's got that raw materials modifier. Thought its good yields would offset the poor space. What's the standard minimum for size?
>>
>>175096930
The appeal of plasma+neutron is that the torpedoes strip the shields fast and the plasma shreds through the armour.
>>
Who /dual afterburner battleships/ here?
>>
>>175096917
I've had a psionic specialist scientist in social research for the past 80 years and no psionic theory, even though I'm not running a materialist government. I think you need a spiritual government to get psi techs.
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>>175097172
>dual afterburner battleships
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>>175097172
Whats the point if theyre just going to stand here shooting
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>>175097056
here I go then. wish me luck after the 50 years it takes to build up 1200 corvettes
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>>175096917
>>
>no way to order a slower but ordered retreat
>have to either fight to the death or emergency FTL
For what purpose
>>
>>175097279
Fleet not going at crawlspeed in-system.
>>175097256
FAST battleship.
>>
>>175096917
You have to be a full-blown bible basher to get to the shroud. Having a single scientist with psionic theory isn't enough.
>>
>>175097415
Bittenfeld get out.
>>
>>175097172
> Battleships come to a complete stop and fire artillery
> But they do it FASTER now
Nice man tell me your secrets.
>>
>>175097415
But afterburners increase combat speed. In system speed is determnined by sublight speed.
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So what happens after 50 years?

Do I get a present?
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Guess these mushrooms are about to become my new droids.
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>>175097834
>that feel when there aren't enough good slave traits
>you'll never turn a bunch of space elves into twisted orc slaves as vengence
>>
>>175097805
If you're talking about that pulsar with the 50 year countdown timer, yes. Just hope it's not near your territory.
>>
>his colonies aren't connect with his border

Why would anyone do this?
>>
>>175097805
The End of Cycles?
>>
>>175097805
If you mean the end of cycles your empire gets destroyed down to one new colony and a starting fleet and a giant shroud glitched shroud god spawns on your old capital.
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>>175097805
You fucked up in ways you can't even comprehend.
>>
>>175098074
So it's like Fall From Heaven 2's apocalypse mechanic.
>>
Use spoiler tags so you don't run the FUN, boys.
>>
>>175097480
>>175096917
>This one tech is beyond the reach of an entire galactic empire of die-hard no-life habitat-dwelling neet scientists because their door mat doesnt worships Slaanesh
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>>175098074
Everyone also gets -1000 towards you
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>>175096846
No, Comrade Premier...

The mind is quicker than the eye
>>
>every empire is pathetic/inferior
>slowly fighting tedious fucking wars to get them to cede
this is making me hate this game
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>Galaxy is roughly split between myself and a materialist AI empire
>Losing the war
>Pop into the Shroud
>Make contact with The End of The Cycle
>>
Is there a way to abandon a ceded planet so I can terraform it after I finish purging the original population?
>>
Why can't I just set an extermination war goal and kill everyone?
>>
>>175098328
Actually makes sense, because the Shroud is based on negotiating with god-like beings beyond our ken.

Neet Scientists won't accept any competition in that sphere.
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>>175098532
If you can get a victory condition in 50 years its worth it.
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>>175098468
I wish there was a non-psychic route for Spiritualists. Well, maybe not necessarily "non-psychic", but perhaps "ignorantly psychic".

Something anti-science and anti-reason, treating psychic powers as angelic blessings or something like that. Have the ability to preform terrorism and stuff.
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>>175098074
>Just straight up saying what happens
Jesus
Never go to a party
>>
>>175098668
>Never go to a party
Where the fuck do you think we are.
>>
>>175098653
I'm not trying to win anymore
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>>175098723
Do it, anon.

Burn it all down.
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>>175097805
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>>175098719
In a butanese cave painting board talking to the most boring person alive it seems.

Look at this guy
>>175098161
This is called fun
>>
>>175098030
>settle on the other side of someone's borders
>pick up supremacy, manifest destiny, and interstellar dominion
>i absorb their empire other than few planets that exist as small bubbles in my blob
D E V I L I S H
>>
How long should a Medium galaxy take to finish in real time?
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>>175098668
>omfg spoilers1!one thanks for ruining paradoxs awesome and compelling story 4 me!

you must be new
>>
>>175099098
End of Cycle gives you so many ingame "don't take this you mongoloid" warnings before letting you accept it its hardly like I'm spoiling the surprise.
>>
>>175098030
Spiral galaxies
You know
The only way you should be playing
>>
>>175099265
This but you're still a retard because I don't like you.
>>
>>175099265
The surprise isn't in knowing it's bad.
The surprise is knowing HOW bad.

Don't spoil nice things.
>>
>>175099367
wow rude
>>
>>175099291
What do you mean?
>>
>>175099246
>omfg spoilers1!one thanks for ruining paradoxs awesome and compelling story 4 me!
>Empire disappears in an instant
>paradoxs awesome and compelling story
Kill yourself
I dont care that much about spoilers, but he could have posted it in a way that wouldnt mimick a fucking machine.
Again, never go to party if you cant grasp the concept of fun.
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>AI make the deal

Is there anything can be done?
>>
>>175099972
Nope
>>
>>175099787
Im just memeing, i played only a few games but i think its the best format, getting the tech to cross the gap feels like a genuine achievement
>>
>>175099846
Science has proved spoilers aren't detrimental to your enjoyment and sometimes even make you appreciate the story more.
>>
Will my liberals get upset if I nerve staple the 50 billion "people" I """liberated"""?
>>
>>175100026
Unless you play Hyperlane only in which case the systems with lanes that cross the arm are nice strategic points.
>>
It's not your time yet, anons.
But it could be.
>>
>>175100027
>sometimes
Literal anecdotal evidence. Is this the pinnacle of Western Science? wtf, I love post-soviet countries now.
>>
>>175100089
Nope. Enjoy the slaves.
>>
>>175100003
So it's just a playable game over screen?
>>
>>175099846
Don't get mad. Robot autists just need a few hotfixes to work well enough.

>>175099997
Haha I got banned for that the other day even though it was a legitimate answer to an anon's misunderstanding of fear. See you in 3 days kiddo.
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>>175099972
What year is it?
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>>175100089
I'll write you a very nasty letter, you son of a bitch.
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>>175099972
>>AI make the deal
Wew. What year is it in your game? I have literally never seen this happen. I JUST had an AI get the latent psychic perk in my current game.
>>
>>175100163
Or you know, tests on groups of people representative of the general population.
>>
>>175100172
Effectively, its by the guy that did that one story in Fallen London that wipes your character.
Its fun for RP purposes though.
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>federation member keeps insisting we declare war on him
>demands are all to the cede planets to himself
>get assblasted when i vote no
>>
>>175100302
What? You don't like LARPing?
>>
>>175100223
>>175100247
2347
>>
>>175099432
>END of cycles
>expecting anything but utter ass rape
>>
>>175100302
guess you need your own brexit
>>
>>175099972
>Is there anything can be done?
Yes.

You can attempt to exterminate every last pop he has. If it's allowed to OM NOM NOM 800+ you literally wont be able to stop it.
>>
>>175100521
You never know. It could just be a monthly cycle though no less devastating.
>>
>use spear of longinus to glass planets
>suddenly IM the bad guy
wooooooooooooow
>>
Which is more fun, spiral or elliptical?
>>
>>175090841
No, I want civilians ships.
Pilgrims visiting a holy world, traders moving around, criminals fleeing...
I want all the stuff from Distant Worlds, but with Stellaris's ethics system.

>>175092819
And the fake declarations of war.
>>
>>175098663
>the ability to preform terrorism
>preform
>create terrorism before you carry it out
ANON CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>
>want to play Stellaris
>can't stop browsing 4chan

Help.
>>
>>175090841
>No empire is really evil, morals are a matter of perspective.
But Wiz said Egalitarians are the good guys.
>>
How exactly ethics switching works? If I were to embrace spiritualists while pacifist/xenophobe/spiritualist, what will happen? Also, will my civics still work?
>>
>>175101713
>don't want to play Stellaris
>want to write lewd touhou fanfics
>>
>>175101829
post your fics
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>>175101829
hot, post links to your FF profile
>>
>>175101713
>want to play video games
>cant stop nazi posting on twitter
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Isnt it great helping your Pacifist allies struggling with a planet invasion during War in Heaven?

>pew
>pew
>pew
>uh I hit a civilian
>oh no, he is alright
>pe.. oh hey guys, what are you d..
>RIGHT, SPOOL UP THE NEW GUN! THE BIG ONE ON THE BOW!
>wait, we have intel on en...
>*BOOOOOM*
>DID WE HIT IT?
>Affirmative sir, looks like over half of our ordinance hit the planet
>YOU ARE WAR CRIMINALS
>Yeah, ok my dude, SEND IN THE XENOMORPHS
>THE WHAT
>>
>>175101713
>want to play Freelancer
>doesn't work on my Windows Seven
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>>175102116
>tfw don't even need to bother with bombardment because the xenomorphs will tear everything to shreds on their own
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>>175102281
What a cute Neptune.
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what manga is that spider from and where can i read it
>>
>>175102663
kissmanga DOT comSLASHManga/Kumo-Desu-ga--Nani-ka/Ch-007?id=289363 to read it.

novelplanet DOT comSLASHNovel/Kumo-Desu-ga-Nani-ka/Chapter-01?id=131475 to read it.
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>>175102281
I SERIOUSLY HOPE YOU CHANGED YOUR ETHICS
>>
>>175099972
Is it even possible for players to have the 8 million of fleet power needed?
>>
>>175099972
Yes. Sell the planet to a neighbor for as much as you can.
>>
>>175101713
>want to play actually fun and good games
>can't stop playing Stellaris
>>
>>175102939
Eight million of fleet power needed?
>>
>>175103256
The shroud entity that is born from the end of the cycle has millions and millions of fleet power and only grows from there. I'm asking if the player can even get enough fleet power to kill it in the first place.
>>
>>175103369
Its glitched so it doesn't regenerate shields, it normally kills itself on the first AE fleet it finds.
>>
Not sure if someone done it, but if successfully kill the entity from the shroud, does it give you something?
>>
>>175103369
The entity scales with your empire stop playing on max everything settings
>>
>>175101713
>>175103168
Yeah I have both of these.
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>go third way in WiH
>EVERYONE wants in
>EXCEPT my loyal vassal
>>
So why are all spiritualist treated as worshiping a cloud of dust? When I made my spiritualists humans I made them with the idea that Earth was a lost holy place that was the birthplace of mankind. Now everything is god and a physic cloud of doom is god.
>>
>>175103810
You don't have to go down the psionic ascension path as a spiritualist.
>>
Just got Stellaris, which DLCs are worth getting, in order of importance.
>>
>>175104234
Pirate. If you really really must feed the jew only utopia is arguably worth it.
>>
>>175104234
All of them.

Seriously don't bother without them.

t. Bought it on launch
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>He says while a massive ball of Shroud energy is bombing his planets
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>>175103683
I love this image, can I save it?
>>
>>175104525
Did it actually happen? What's the fleet power?
>>
Is it worth giving him up? Hes a level 5 scientist age 85. I only ever got a reward once before from an AE and it was some crappy ships any chance ill get something actually good this time?
>>
>>175103683
For these who are too lazy to read.
It's 2 147 483 647 spears.
Or 2,147,483,647.
>>
>rush level 4 armor plating because that's what the game fucking gave me
>no shield tech past the basic shields
>circumstances force me to to go to war with the friendly neighborhood hive mind
>their tech level is inferior to mine but their fleet power is superior
>rocking a 4k strength fleet while mine is around 3k
>check out what they're sporting
>CUTTING LASERS EVERYWHERE IGNORE 100% ARMOR HAVE FUN

oh

ok
>>
>>175104796
Shroud Avatars contribute 15K+ fleet power.
>>
>>175104884
If you're struggling for shields just analyse debris.
>>
>>175094253
>first serious playthough
>it's about year 2350
>Unbidden pop up in massive empire I'm at war with
>bravely spare my honourable enemy from my venerable navy for now and muster my entire fleet to take it on by myself, not even caring about the war
>my 55k fleet vs. about 5 different 65k fleets in the system the portal pops up in
>tfw my glorious navy single handedly took down the Unbidden
>I was hard the entire time
I think maybe normal difficulty is a bit to easy, to be honest
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>>175104991
This. Battle wreckage is a reliable way of unlocking tech.
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>>175104884
B-but RNG research is fine!
It totally compensate for everyone having the same techs!
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>>175105083
Normal difficulty is pathetically easy.
Hard is borderline unplayable for military-focused empires because the +50% to everything AI instantly out-fleets you no matter what.
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>>175104884
Literally opposite happened to me. Had no armor, but good shields, go to war with rival, whoops, shitton of arc disruptors.
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>>175105083

I observed a game early. Hard difficulty. Unbidden appeared, had cleansed the entire galaxy within 20 years. Everyone was rocking at least 90k fleet, and each unbidden fleet was ~80k and they steamrolled the galaxy with no resistance.
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>>175105297
> +50% to everything
I know rite? In Stellaris you have to pull teeth just to find a 20% bonus for yourself, and the first notch of difficulty shits out 50% like it's nothing.
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>>175105417
>>175105297
Holy shit Really? That's retarded. Is there a mod to fix that or what, because I doubt those greedy Swedes would fix it themselves.
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can primitives be hiveminded
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>houserules:
>no allies
>no expanding outside of starting system outside of outposts to grab strategic resources
>in the event of a crisis, do everything I can to fight it immediately
>in the event of war in heaven, go independent and fight both FEs

>enemies on insane/normal aggression
>20 ayys, 6 FEs, random start, no advanced starts
>my one advantage is starting in a ringworld system
>play as Hivemind

>game 1
>start between two fanatical purifiers, get purified
>game 2
>start right next to an isolationist FE, get isolated
>game 3
>everybody just hates my guts because hiveminds are spoop
>game 4
>get purifier-meme'd on again

FUCK

I just need one good start
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>>175105417
"""difficulty"""
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My syncretic evolution chattel slaves just took over the empire by using the shroud
I am ok with this
The Shroud is the only truth
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>>175105784
>implying the worm isn't the real loving truth
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>>175105417
>>175105683
It's still hilariously easy to push ahead of the AI once you know what you're doing.
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>>175105741
>no expanding
Full retard.
>>
>my xenophile empire is fighting a xenophile AE because my militarist federation member got into a pissing match with it
>he's not even equivalent military power to me, let alone the AE
>I'm tied down fighting a xenophobe federation who's so tired of my success that they joined forces to fuck with me

What do I do, bros?
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Warp Only + starting automated survey is the true redpilled way to play
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Why am I never able to complete the precurser quest? I can find thier home system I go there I survey it but nothing happens.
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>>175105891
The notches still should be toned down a bit, even if it means pushing in a few more super hard modes on top. There is too huge a gap between normal and hard.
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>>175106169
It means another empire got there first, scanned the system and got the anomaly.
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>>175106312
This. once you unlock the final piece eeeeeeEEEEVERYONE will rush it to steal your prize. It doesn't make sense and you don't get a head start for being the guy to solve the puzzle at all.
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Well which was it?
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>>175105683
It's easy to change the modifiers in the files.
I set hard to +25% everything except research and that's how I usually play.
Removed the FE damage bonuses too (x1.5/x2 hard/insane respectively).
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>>175106312
For real? So how in the ever loving fuck do I get to it first. The second the system spawns every science vessel in the galaxy bee lines it to it.
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>>175106476
You save before you finish the last special project, you see if its in your borders or near a science ship, if not you reload the save until you get it in a good place.
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>>175106476

Just save scum it. The spawn is randomized upon quest completion, so if you save before completing the final step then reload after it spawns, you'll eventually get it close by.
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>>175106476
Option 1: be the only empire in the galaxy when you finish the event.

Option 2: savescum until it spawns closer to your science ships than any other science ship.
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>>175106541
>>175106543
Lucky fuckin me I saved 2 months before completion to see something. Can it spawn in my empire?
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>>175106619
Yes
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>>175105784
How did they manage that?
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>>175106417
Schrodinger's colony
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>>175106543
>>175106561
This is the worst fuckin thing ever I finally got it to spawn near enough to me I got to it first but holy shit was paradox stupid in my 20 save scums ive seen it spawn in FE Which might be a good place since no one will go near it to the other side of the galaxy. Why not make it so only you can find this system I mean what the fuck did my scientist upload the coordinates to the galaxy fuckin net or something?
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Shroudies should be gassed desu.
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What are some good extra event mods? No memey writing, those that fit into setting. Got Extra Events, but what else?
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>>175107102


All they need to do is turn it from an anomaly into a special project. Then nobody but you can see it. They'd still swarm the place but wouldn't gain anything from it.
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>>175106861
Turned out they were psionics too, I let them plug in, and what do you know they were better than the starting species

So I abolished slavery and I am pussing for egalitarian ethos shift, and then militarist because the Purifiers are getting a bit too close

What begun as Spiritual Pacifist Isolationism with slaves is going to end up a Democratic Spirtual Stratocracy with citizen service

Trully the best playthrough
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>>175107385
I don't think there are any without memey writing or noticeable dips in quality. You'll have to wait for someone to make an FTL:Captains edition style compilation mod with someone sat there acting as quality control for the writing.
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>>175107102
So it was the yuht homeworld all I got was a full tradition and 2k minerals and energy. Thats it? The wiki said the homeworld should produce a ton of energy and minerals as well but it doesnt. Am I being lied to or did it break?
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>>175107385
>No memey writing

Spot the nigga who isn't loved by the Worm
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>>175107589
>Once you survey their homeworld you will be presented with a 0% risk anomaly. Researching it will end the event chain and grant a large amount of unity in addition to the following:
>The Yuht homeworld will grant a large amount of energy and minerals.
Do you really need help comprehending this?
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>>175107783
>savescumming for a precursor
Theres a decent chance you won't get all 6 artefacts while its still relevant.
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>>175107781
No your right my frustration blinded me and I sorta hoped it would be a bit better. But again really? All I get for that massive event chain and 15 minutes of save scumming is 2k minerals and energy? Thats not even that much thats like a years supply of both like being generous 2 battlships.
>>175107783
Your right from now on im savescumming till cybrex at least I get a strategic resource. The system they spawned in this game is ok and in my empire 6 energy 2 minerals and 4 engineering research so meh.
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There is no starcraft or RTS general and nothing relevant on /v/.

Close enough for 4x?

Playing through the old game because it just came out for free. I know the focus of people playing it is pvp but pvp rts never appealed to me so I am sticking to the campaign. I can forgive the terrible interface and input because it is so old but the balance in these missions seems really bad. In the 4x style missions there only ever seems to be 2 choices because your enemy is so entrenched: Full defense to build and fully buff the two best units based on the focus of the enemy or to micro from early on which takes just as long or longer.

The only fines I see in the single player is defending with the bare minimum to get your economy as strong as possible.

I just finished Warcraft 1 before this and while the unit matchups were simpler on paper they are functionally the same and instead of microing your economy then rushing the enemy with overwhelming force you were focusing on troop placement.

I'm having fun with it but I can't seem to find a reliable mid game win option for any mission.
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>>175108198
Did the Starcraft /vg/ general finally die?

Good god, if it did then I'm glad. That was a terminal patient for sure
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>>175108198
sc2 exists but calling it a starcraft general is really pushing it.
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>>175108404
I think you mean Kpop general they dont even bother to have anything in the OP
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>>175108476
I did say it was really pushing it.
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>>175108198
Remember that goliaths and dragoons use the same pathing AI as the hydralisk and are absolute retards because of it.
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>>175108198
You're overthinking it. The campaign is rather trivial, but it's fun. You can win every mission by just turtling up in your comfy base and building up to critical mass.

The interesting part is challenging yourself to not turtle up and try to do things as fast as you can
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>>175108552
Is that why they move like retards and always get stuck.
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>>175108198
I remember playing Starcraft 2 and finding it quite fun. At least in solo. I haven't tried the expansions through, so I can't say for them.

Also,
>Close enough for 4x?
OP does say "/cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/", doesn't it?
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>>175104869
No, it says two billion, so is 2.000.147.483.647 Spears.
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>>175108347
lizg is dead, sc2 should follow soon and /ksg/ will never ever die
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>>175108764
Good. They deserve to live.

Hanako route still most half-baked route of all.
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>>175108608
Yes. Mass muta > all

>>175108646
Expansions are pretty fun. The master archives they added makes replaying missions much easier since you can pick and choose upgrades and such without needing to go though the entire campaign to change your loadout again.
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>>175108685
>Britcucks
>ever
No one uses Milliard, Billiard, Trilliard, etc etc; don't be a cheeky cunt.
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>>175108051
Yeah.
And don't complain too much, it's also possible for the target system to spawn inside another empire's borders. Including FE.
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>>175108817
at least its not shitzunes
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>>175108198
Somewhat Starcraft related, but I found out recently that the Factorio devs were working on programming Starcraft-playing-AI that competes against other AI's in tournaments.

I thought it was neat, so here you guys go if you wanna take a look. Code is open source too

https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-173

>As you might or might not know, Starcraft was always one of my favorite games. I spent way more time with it than I would like to admit.
Some time ago, long before I started working on Factorio, I started the bwapi project which provides C++ api to access the starcraft data (units, players, map etc.) and allows to control the units.

It's at the very bottom of the page
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>>175108820
Yeah, but I don't like the zerg campaign and I hate the protoss.

I could stand having only a bunch of people to talk to because I was a rebel, but being the Queen Bitch of the Galaxy and only having 4 guys to talk to was a bit annoying. Plus I think they missed opportunity with the prisoners.

And the Protoss are just unsufferable.
>"Aldaris, you must listen to the past, we-"
>"NO SHUT UP THE PAST IS DANGEROUS"
>"The way of the protoss is the way of self-discipline and-"
>"DON'T MAKE ME TAKE OFF MY BELT"
>"But we have much to learn from the past, we have a history that-"
>"FUCK THE PAST, LET'S START FROM ZERO and now bend over, I warned you"
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>>175108836
Just because you are uneducated peasats doesn't mean you are right.
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>>175108836
No one uses -iard in Britain either.
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>>175109093
>tfw uneducated peasants became the world's first and only hyperpower
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>>175108603
Right and I am enjoying it but the speed is locked by how slow vespen mining is. You can fill the minerals so much that the mining rate far surpasses the demand (until the minerals are gone) But you can only have like 4 drones per geyser if the base is as close as possible so each mission takes roughly the same amount of time because rank 1 unit rushes don't work on a fully developed base.

>>175108646
True but there was zero discussion so I didn't want to seem rude.

>>175108948
cool. I'm also playing factorio. I would like to see sped up AI games but I'm betting the civ ones are more fun.
>>
What are the good, not retarded event mods?
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>>175109268
But Jews aren't uneducated peasants.
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>>175109287
It's amazing what fast tracking your country to the industrial revolution on the backs of slaves can do.
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First hyperlanes only game.
Planning on makeing other races livestock slaves and go the bioengineering route.
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>>175108836
>>175109198
Yeah it's mostly romance languages, German and places they conquered/colonized.
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>>175109376
>imblying
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Is Utopia worth it or should i just wait for Endless Space 2?
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>>175109268
>can't even beat illiterate rice farming peasants
>hyperpower
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>>175109287
> He can't win with Marines
Nigga if you can't clear the map on time wasting holdout missions, GIT GUD.
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>>175109268
>First hyperpower
>What is Finland and Korea during the Hyperwar.
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>>175109504


>>175109581
>this meme again
We did beat them. We beat them amazingly hard, so much so that it was an outright slaughter.

We """lost""" only because we didn't go back when Charlie broke the treaty, and that's because of political fuckery on the homefront and hippy bullshit, not because of any military superiority or advantage on the part of the gooks.
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>>175109502
Well that's fucking great
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>>175109740
>we failed all of our objectives
>but we killed a fucktonne of peasants so its a victory
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>>175109740
Is it the word "superseded" you don't understand?
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>>175109662
that's the introduction campaign. I'm most of the way through the zerg now and each mission feels exactly the same because rank 2 evolutions and a huge rush are required. Unit build time and vespen gas mining are hard capped.
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As a xenophobic society, how do I get the ability to uplift civilizations?
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>>175110047
By switching ethos.
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>>175109868
Where is that portrait from?
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>>175110220

It's in the vanilla files m8, reptilian i think
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>>175109879
>failed objectives
The war was immense and all objectives were fulfilled.
Charlie started a second war with S Vietnam by break the treaty, and America didn't step in a second time.

>>175109902
Still a British word, fampai.
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>>175110157
Well fuck me then. How do I swap ethos?
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>>175110256
It's a French word, Anon...
>Etymology[edit]
>From French milliard.
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>>175110256
>North vietnam remained communist even with the treaty
>communism was not halted in Asia
>south vietnam fell as soon as the treaty finished
>we totally achieved all of our objectives
If you forge a ceasefire that only existed so the other side can attack as soon as your backs are turned you haven't won.
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>>175110035
> Build time is hard capped
> I need more vespene gas to win
Literally. GIT. GUD. I can't find these videos online anymore what happen
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>>175110414
Regardless
>lol you didn't beat rice farming peasants
Ignoring the wider geo-political situation at the time, America did indeed utterly destroy the gooks in terms of actual warfare. Getting slaughtered by the thousands and thousands and thousands while having their country ravaged by bombing and only "winning" by technicality isn't much of a victory for them, either.
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>>175110334
Embracing a faction and praying the one that gets removed is Xenophobe.
I'm fairly sure you can uplift pre-sentients as a regular xenophobe though
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>>175110621

You can , but xenophobes have reduced chances of getting the uplift tech , it is very easy to reach 2300 and not have it

unless you put a bio expert in society research
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>>175110248
Mollusk
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>>175109287
You enabled "Fastest" speed on Game Options right?

Because if you haven't you should. That's the speed multiplayer is played on and is the best speed to play even on single player, imo.
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>>175110414

>communism not halted in Asia

Outside of Cambodia which got cleansed by the communists in Vietnam, mission a-fucking-ccomplished. It cost the US South Vietnam and its self-respect for like a decade, but communism didn't spread.
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>>175110774
I have it, but I've been told I don't have the right policy.
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>>175110808
Interesting, I just loaded up the game to check and definitely do not have that species. So it isn't vanilla.
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>>175111054

That's enlightenment, not uplifting. They're separate mechanics.
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>>175110618
The slaughtered a bunch of rice farmers with weapons that cost most than Vietnams entire economy but still didn't achieve what they set out to do. War isn't a competition to wipe each other out, its an attempt to achieve politically goals through violence. North Vietnam achieved those goals, America did not.
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>>175111054
change the policy, fuccboi
and that isn't uplifting, that's enlightening
uplifting is bringing up the "non-sapeint" creatures
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>>175111193
Oh, shit. My bad. Can I not do that though?
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>>175111154
I think you need to register the game with the paradox site to get it
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>>175111054
You're a xenophobe, you don't need to bother enlightening, you can just invade.
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>>175099846
He asked what would happen, get off your fuckin' meme-horse and enjoy the thread.
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>>175110872

> but communism didn't spread.

if only that wasn't wrong

reminder that the west won the cold war geographically but in culture the soviets won
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>>175111246

Dunno, not played xphobe in a long time. Enlightenment is where you take a pre-space civilization and give it technology and bring it up to your level, it creates a new faction on the map as your protectorate.

Uplifting is where you settle a planet that has a pre-sentient species on it and then you uplift them in the species menu.
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>old leader dies
>elect new one for 200 points
>veteran politician, five star experience
>didn't check the age
>dies within 6 months
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>>175111368

>in culture the soviets won

pfffthahahahahah

Sorry friend, but Cultural Marxism isn't Soviet Marxism by a long shot, it's the Frankenstein's monster of ideologies, nor has it "won" by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>175110872
All of its neighbours (including Laos) fell to or had already fallen to communism. it not spreading further westward was more to do with China's chilly relationship with the USSR than the Vietnam war.
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>>175111475
I've had a leader die 2 weeks after election. Even had a faction cry "-20%, Xenos leader" because they hate ghosts or something.

Good times.
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>>175109868
>Sol Imperium
>Martian Throne
Calvin?
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>>175111310
Fucking sweet
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Is it possible to make a metalhead empire? Wiki says you need the strong and industrious perks, as well as xenophobe, materialist and militarist, but that doesn't seem to cut it.
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>>175111683
I just hired another leader and didn't check again, and it's one of my scientists who has two years until he can die. Fugggg.
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>>175111791
Depending on what stage they were at they'll get a malus to certain yields and happiness but since they'll be slaves anyway it doesn't matter.
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>>175111475

>spend 400 or so influence rerolling a scientist for new worlds for terraforming
>election happens
>guess who I elect without checking who they were
>have to spend more influence looking for another new worlds scientist
>run out, settle for eager

I hate this game some times
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>>175111849

Metalhead is an AI personality type, not a government type.
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>>175111967
Maybe you shouldn't be retarded
>>
>tfw Paradox did almost the right thing for planet habitability, but not quite
Two axis; moisture and heat.
Little moisture, some moisture, much moisture.
Cold, Temperate, Hot

Tundra, Alpine, Arctic
Savannah, Continental, Oceanic
Desert, Arid, Tropical

Planets that share both your species' preferred moisture and temperature are 80%
Those that only share one are 60%
Those that share neither are 40%

All planets can be colonized, but in exchange, happiness penalties are increased for very low happiness.
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What.
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>>175112546
Your fleet is set to escape if there are enemies in the same system.
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>>175112546
Oh nvm had stance set to evasive.
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>>175111273
Aha, no, it is one of the Creatures of the Void.

Damn it.
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>>175112546
Do Habitats give Fleet cap
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>>175112916
They do. I think 10 per habitat, but I'd have to double-check.
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>>175112916

They can't have spaceports
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>>175112916
Only from the pops.
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>>175112369
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=794246891

I recommend pairing it with
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=719802418
and
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=733386004
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What civilizations have split in your galaxy?

The blue are the originals, peaceful traders. The green are federation builders and the pink are fanatical purifiers.
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>>175079416
Reminder to vote on this if you are interested.

Also
>Sid Meier on track to get sacked as Captain.
>>
the war system is shit
the diplomacy is shit
the AI is shit

why can't I stop playing this game?
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>>175107783
Cybrex is broken. If you get stuck with the artifact events because there's no more anomalies to find, you'll eventually get notified of one that you can't scan and doesn't show up on the map.
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I completed the Limbo event chain and put them into some synth bodies and let them go colonize their own world. cause every world they picked when joining me was a piece of shit and useless
I think they went a little crazy while in storage.
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>>175113902
Its a bit like Elite Dangerous, lack of competitors really similar to it and hope that it'll get better. Fortunately Stellaris will improve unlike ED with its retarded head of design
>>
>>175113772
I have a lot of fun Liberating the shit out of a powerful neighbor, piece by piece. Splintering his blob into squabbling factions.

I wish I could shadow-fund rebellions in other empires so I could sow dissent without having to fire shots myself.

That'd be sweet. Are there any mods for that or plans to add that in later for diplo options?

I'd love to roleplay as a Shadowy organization that deals in subterfuge and deals whose morals are questionable
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>>175107626
I want dat event.
>>
FUCK
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>>175114102
>Elite:dangerous

we only discuss good games here anon
>>
How do you guys feel about resources?

It seems in most 4x games resources are either really simple (stellaris), or really complex (distant worlds) with very little in the middle.

Is Endless Space in the middle? I don't have much experience with that.
>>
If I kill everyone on a colony through purges will I lose the colony? Or will I simply be stuck with a 0 pop colony doing nothing.
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>>175115348
>If I kill everyone on a colony through purges will I lose the colony

Yes. Put one of your own pops there if you want to keep it. Very important when you kill an FE.
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>>175115431
Im actually asking cause I enslaved a slave world awile back and well I dont need their services anymore.
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>>175089757
Indeed.
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>>175114912
But we discuss stellaris
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>>175116261
Stellaris has a future though

Elite does not
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>>175116261
>took 18 minutes
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>>175116404
>>175116401
different guy, my guys.
ED is for fags
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>>175116523
>ED is for dads

fix'd
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>>175116523

I had fun with it for like a week in the steam christmas sale. Lots to do but it all gets very same/boring very quickly.
>>
How the hell do people go super wide in Stellaris with how retarded the sector AI is?
>>
>>175116925
Mods to boost core planets cap.

Sectors are dumb, don't use them.
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>>175116925
They don't, they only go tall
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>>175116925
If you hand the planets built up to the sector it's fine.

Also think of it this way, the one controlling your opponents is also a dumb AI.
Going wide without sectors is actually incredibly annoying too cause you have to constantly check on all these planets.
Even if the sectors are fucking it up it's better to ignore it and let them be a bit more inefficient than having to do everything yourself all the time.
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>>175116986
>>175117002
>break the tenuous balance of Stellaris even harder

>>175117264
>If you hand the planets built up to the sector it's fine.
But the goddamn limit is 3 planets early game, there's no way either of your first two colonies are developed enough to feel safe handing them over to the Duplo-playing AI once you get a fourth. Or are you pretty much forced to take +core sector system civics/pacifist ethos to have enough core breathing room to develop planets, in which case I'd rather just play tall at that point?
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>>175117784

It's not a limit, though. It's just 10% reduced energy credits and influence gain per system over. That's hardly crippling. If you don't like it, just mod it out, man.
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>>175117784
you can change your civics
take efficient bureaucracy then tolerate 5 systems until you get the repeatable tech
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>>175117913
>wasting ascendency on repeatable tech
short sighted
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>>175117784
Imperial prerogative perk is actually good, unless you're pacifist.
Also going one or two systems over the limit is no big deal. Early on, expand strategically rather than merely the best planets, close off other empires and secure the most territory first.
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>>175118097
so whats the best first perk to you
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>>175118097
>relying on RNG deciding when you can have extra core worlds

sure you can do that, meanwhile i've already claimed like 5+ worlds and expanding like a mad man.
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>>175118536
Or you can just install a mod because sectors are retarded garbage.
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>>175118498
probably the retard who saves for voidborne first perk
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> They haven't figured out how to make sectors work most of the time
lol kids.
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GOD DAMN IT
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is there a mod that makes fallen empire ship types (NOT MODELS) available to normal empires through later research?
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>>175119392
>when the exile gets voted president

I was so occupied with the war that I forgot the election popup and now I got a shitty leader.
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>>175119908
>>175119392
Didnt meant to quote you
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>>175119908

That's pretty funny though desu
>>
eater of worlds
whispers in the void
pleasure guy
big daddy

which one is the best choice? Best as in, won't assrape me monumentally in the future?

I also got end worm, but ended the chain by the 2nd scientist.

Poor guy, turned to drugs.
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Sometimes I get a glitch were I embark a land armies and they just disappear. I can see them in the armies tab thing but I cant click them or do anything with em any fix? I have a negative war score cause my dumb ass vassal keeps throwin away fleets they are getting genocided when I integrate them.
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>>175105741
>tall hivemind
now you've gone full retard
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>>175119908

>Justiciar
Fix that, anon
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>>175120870

You do know that's a word, right? It's the democratic Fanatic Purifier ruler name.
>>
>>175120195
I've seen that happen when I upgrade my transport design while an army is being built. I know of no fix.
>>
If you people don't want a spider OP, you better prepare the next thread.

Just saying.
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>>175120947
That makes sense I just gave my transports jump drives. Well at least I know how to avoid it in the future.
>>
>>175105741
>no expanding outside of starting system
literally how? I'm lucky if I get 2 asteroids in my home system with ANY resources. If you mean your starting area, my point remains. MAYBE i'd get like 6 minerals total, not counting the surface of my home planet.
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>>175120870
Please keep your white supremacist meme to yourself, it triggers us all.
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>>175121419
>le reddit toad
>white supremacist
good shitpost
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>Both at once
Which should I do first, fags?
>>
do all shroud contracts have the same price at the end? Or different per entity?
>>
>>175121419
pepe is older than the 2016 election
fuck off newfag
>>
>>175121768
Isn't Sentient AI only actually dangerous if you have droid/synth pops? Though if there's a Materialist FE near you they might fuck your shit up for it.

Jump Drive is inevitable, someone in the galaxy will get it and lure the Unbidden.
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>Slowly preparing fleets to wipe out a bordering empire
>Stable economy, can take the war cost easily
>Building third habitat, soon I will get the next Megastructure ascension perk
>Got AI but gave them citizen rights to avoid a crisis because I am just not ready yet
>Never researched Jump Drive
>Unbidden just spawn in the middle of my core worlds, capital gets btfo mere months later
Just why.
>>
>>175121709
Shut up and keep pretending it's racist and supremacist, just to annoy reddit.

>>175122041
t. /pol/
>>
>>175122064
Sentient AI is fine if you give your robutts citizen rights.
>>
>really nice size 25 tomb world pretty close to me
>trying to get Climate Restoration
>scientist with New Worlds specialty on society research for the last 30 years
>fucking nothing
come ON
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>>175121709
>>175122041
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>>175122623
>>
>>175122248
I was more getting at that having Sentient AI but no robutts at all is fine as well.
>>
>>175122697
who even uses tineye as a reverse image finder nowadays anyway

that shit was always inaccurate like 6 years ago, it still is now
>>
does anyone have an answer if the various chaos gods have a different end result when you pay the price? Or it's the same?
>>
>>175122697
Well of course, if you photoshop a reaction pic to give them a KKK hat and a cross, it looks racist.

I bet Haruhi Suzumiya or Megumin would also be spooky if I gave them white hood and put a burning cross in the background.
>>
>>175122118
Had exactly same thing happen. Went for a Homeworld solution, loaded up on Colony Ships before those fucks purged my more advanced colonies and went to settle in a far away arm of the galaxy.
And right wen I fixed up a few worlds and started rebuilding properly I got purified by some mushroom niggers.
It was kinda fun though, if incredibly annoying.
>>
>>175122697
> Be media grunt
> Boss needs a new boogie man
> Don't get paid enough for this shit
> Scroll internet
> Find pepe
> Why the fuck not
> 9001 hours in MSPaint
> Here you go boss
> fake news for days
> don't give a shit no one fact checks at this shit hole anyway
>>
>>175122118
>nowhere near endgame
>largest fleet is 20k
>all empires I met so far are equivalent or inferior
>lmao unbidden
yeah this fucking happens.
>>
>>175123185
>mushroom niggers
WE WUZ SHROOMS 'N' SHIET
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>>175122118
>losing to the Unshitten
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>>175122870

Tineye shittiness aside, that Pepe is definitely a fake news false flag. I had never seen it before it was on CNN and I have been exposed to untold gigabytes of Pepes in my time. Not sure why they had to make one up when you can find a legit racist Pepe in under a minute.
>>
>>175122697
>anti-defamation league
>deface a meme
>>
>>175123498
The CNN Pepe looks like it was made in ms-paint.
>>
>>175123368
I was nowhere near prepared to get 3+ 55k fleets in the middle of my core worlds, they spawned right next to my capital and was square in the middle of a cluster of mineral/energy rich systems and fleet production worlds. I got btfo the moment they spawned there, I lost half my production capabilities in the first weeks.
I was taking it slow and I definitely should've blobbed much more, that much is certain.
Guess it's a lesson for later.
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>>175122623
>>175122792
Update: fucking REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>175123858
>8 possible researches
>5 of them are just "get better stuff"
>only 3 of them unlock new stuff
I'm not sure I like that.
>>
Who would win, Heralds of Thesan from LEX or the End of the Cycle?
>>
I choose my core worlds based on proximity to my capital and add colonies to sectors before they are even established. I also colonize every planet I can regardless of size. A 13 size planet can be a core world if its close enough to Sol.

Am I a bad person?
>>
>>175124495
No, but you're handicapping yourself.
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>>175124495
>Sol

Yes, you are
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>>175124523
Well what am I supposed to do? Govern only the biggest and best planets directly no matter where they are?
>>
>>175122118
Times like this, you make a shitty colony or two in one of those blank spots of the map the AI hasn't expanded to yet, so you'll have a backup in case the unbidden eat your main worlds, and hopefully an AE takes them out.
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>>175124775
Yes?
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>>175124775
No. You're supposed to develop them yourself, AND THEN put them in sectors. And make sure that sectors can't change your shit.
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TOO

COMFY
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>>175124872
Do I have to upgrade everything as well? I don't want to be over the core limit for too long so waiting for it to get enough pops to upgrade the capital and build more advanced buildings.
>>
>>175125056
What's the consensus?
>>
>Ubidden have eaten 40 worlds
>4 anchors active
Holy shit this may actually be the one game they dont break and are actually a threat.
>>
>>175125092
sectors have dumb priorities about upgrading, but they do upgrade
>>
>>175125056
>he fell for the hyperlane consensus
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>>175125149
Will they at least respect tiles? I know people say they are incompetent, but if sectors build mines on mineral tiles and farms on food tiles and make sure to upgrade science labs to the correct 2nd tier how bad can they really be? Just turn off space construction until they got a good surplus of minerals going.
>>
Is it possible to force the AI to use hypermemes while I sit comfy with wormholes or warp
>>
Is Agrarian Idyll any good? It seems like it would be useful at the beginning to pump out traditions as you colonize places, but I'm worried it would be shit later on.
>>
Jeeze Turkey sure has come along way on the international stage as of late.
>>
>>175125903

Yes, it's busted. Combine it with all the unity multipliers (inwards perfection, pacifist, consecrated worlds) and you'll be shitting unity out faster than you can spend tradition points.
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>>175125779
There's a checkbox on sector management for them to respect tile resources
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>>175125903
Do it I did and holy shit is it alot of tradition. You can always reform and get rid of it for 250 purple mana when its no longer useful.
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>>175125839

Only if you create a bunch of empires that use hyper lanes and then set them to always appear in game

>>175125903

it is amassing for the tall meme build along with spiritualist for the extra unity buildings and inwards perfection , stay small

Civics can be changed any time for 250 influence , ethos can be changed by embracing factions ( IE : embracing a faction of egalitarians shifts you away from authoritarian )
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New thread:

>>175126353
>>175126353
>>175126353
>>175126353
>>
How do I stop checking starting position, resources in home system, etc at the start and start if it isn't good? I want to roll with want the game give me but I just can't.
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>>175126981
There's no magical answer. Just do it.
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