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I want to make Luna pregnant!

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Hey let's give a class 12 (twelve) ramp cards with good secondary effects, then add the best healing and boardclears in the game. What could go wrong?

>>174992294
>>174992343
thread already shit

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Now what?

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This is fine.

>>174992385
Oh, and give them double the legendaries, but disguise half of them as "Neutrals" :^).

>>174992459
>tech my decks against shadow and aggro
>face only dragon and aegis haven

THANKS CYGAMES LOVING THIS META

>>174992459
It's exactly the same for me just replace shadow with dragon. Random elves are still there.

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>>174992459
>dragoncuck
guess what faggot you're part of the problem

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>Wake up
>Seacraft is still shit
>Shadowverse is as a result the same
>Finish my dailies regardless

Tomorrow for sure my cute orcas.

>>174992868
Dumb frogposter

>>174992868
I'm trying to do my dailies you stupid frogposter

>>174992994
>doing dailies in ranked
maybe you are the dumb one

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Shadowbabs don't know about my 140k vial deck.

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.6DfTy.6DfTy.6DfTy.62D2y.62D2y.62D2y.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.62D2o.62D2o.62D2o.62D36.62D36.62D36.61SDo.61SDo.694Vy.694Vy.694Vy.6DfTo.6DfTo.6DfTo.61SDy.61SDy.61SDy.65GMy.65GMy.661Bo.661Bo.65GMo.6Cuey.6Cuey.61SE6.61SE6.694Vo.694Vo.694Vo.6Cueo.6Cueo

>>174992868
IF you looked more carefully, then you would have seen that all of his losses are as forestcraft, while all of his wins are after he switched to dragon, that was the point he was trying to make, shadownigger.

Am I a pedo if I want to impregnate the loli vampire who is thousands of years old?

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>>174992459
There's a grand total of 1 game that I played against a shadowbab in my recent history, a bit down.

>>174993105
Yes.

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>>174992875
Kawaii, kawaii, Orca-chan

>>174993037
Ranked is practically the same as unranked

>>174992459
>Censoring names
Literally why?

>>174993091
jokes on you i play sword

>>174993105
Vampires don't age, so she is an eternal pedobait

>>174993397
If Vampires don't age, why does Vampy's mom look older than her?
Why does Vampy look like a normal girl, instead of looking the exact same way that she came out of her mothers vagina because going by your logic she shouldn't have aged past that point?

>>174993294
Because someone he's played against can be in this VERY thread, check his match history and hack his account based on his name.

>>174993531
Shapeshifting is a common vampiric ability.

>>174993216
Those tits are way too big for that body.

>>174993691
They are for underwater swimming where they act as balloons

>>174993531
Learn about vampire lore, trolling retard.

>>174993540
>hack an account with just a name
Are you retarded?

>>174993929
It was just a bit of sarcasm...

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>>174993926
>Learn about vampire lore, trolling retard.

Could I get a concede? Stay if you need one back
67747

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>>174994045
>he didn't read Bram Stroker's Dracula and other classics
Get out of my sight

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>>174993926
But vampire lore can be different. For example this vampire does not shape shift, can grow old and the sun does not burn her.

>>174994192
Right, because that anime/manga is about minorities in today's society and not about mythical beings.

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SHADOW NERFS WHEN

>>174994183
>reading

Fucking nerd lmao

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>>174994192
>don't have any attributes common to vampires
>call them vampires anyway
I hate this

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>>174994051
Send help.

>>174994576
The only "attributes" that are key to a vampire are the teeth and blood

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??????????????????????

>>174994576
She has fangs and drinks blood.

>>174994449
It literally depend of the setting you retard, Vampire from the Masquerade are different from Stocker's Dracula.

>catacomb now costs 2 shadow to buff other followers
>zombie party enhance effect now costs 2 shadows per zombie
Would these changes fix shadow?

>"shadowverse is really easy to play as a f2per"
>ignore shills for a year and keep playing hearthstone
>finally try shadowverse
>holy shit 40 free packs
>11 legendaries in 40 packs
>free arena tickets up the ass
>feels good man
>figure out that legendaries aren't limited to one per deck
>many decks have 3 copies of multiple legendaries

uninstalled

>>174994192

Literally less of a vampire than a ginger

>>174994051
>>174994598
Thanks Mastema

>>174994829
No, it'd break shadow again.

Has there seriously been no nerfs yet?

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U-Unica, g-ganbarimasu.

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>>174994664
>>174994712
Being burnt by sunlight, being undead and being creatures of the night are very important part of the vampire identity. Without those, they are not a vampire, I don't give a fuck what they call them. Just because you call a dog pig doesn't mean it is actually a pig.
>>174994739
Old World of Darkness was pretty faithful to vampire mythos and lore for the most part.

Ranked https://my.mixtape.moe/lslqaz.mp4

Tell me /svg/, what the fuck? I just want to do my daily, since it's Haven of course I'm going to play Ranked. But despite drawing like shit I already got Satan'd Astaroth+Dis's lucky shitter, pseudo Dshift'd, and now I've never ever see this shit in Masters or anywhere else. Again, what the actual fuck game?! Where's Shadow? Where's the fucking meta? Why this shit is matching me up with Yugi meme cheaters in Master?

>>174995246
Can you ask in proper English?

I decided to stop playing haven. I play now swordcraft with only one leg ( albert). Not even meta deck.
I have better winrate.

The only downside is not having themis when my opponent get lucky draws.

>>174994942
Most of the legendaries in this game is useless anyways.

>>174995564
Maybe you should play storm haven.

>>174995564
I don't farm with Haven, I play Dragon. I just do it for dailies now since I still get win strikes with Aegis and cuck on Shadowbabs.

>>174995620
Fuck off.

>>174995620

>It's ok that every class needs 2-3 sets of distinct legendaries to compete because there are bad legends

Shadowverse players are actually retarded.

Just lost to turn 7 Dshift as """aggro""" blood because he played 3 magic missiles in a row on my wolves, a levi and 2 (two) 0 cost fiery embraces in a row.
I should probably just uninstall this fucking game right now. This is exactly why I absolutely despise aggro though. I was already top decking on turn 5.

>>174995904
He is right, 90% of standard legendaries are useless and autovial category, and 50% of every expansion are either memes or useless category.

>>174996085
I don't give a fuck. He's an ESLfag.

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>dragoncucks are now using satan for whatever reason
t-this is fine

>>174996073
What do you except, control/combo to just roll over and die because you queued as aggro?

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What the fuck is cygames doing?
Shadow is so fucking OP right.
How the fuck is haven not good right now? Because they made shadow so fucking OP that even their traditional counter doesn't have a positive win rate against them.

>>174996328
Weird, I got beat by a dragon using Satan too today.

>>174996404
From Dshift, yes.

hi guys whats goin on in this thr-

so i left due to daria cancer and now am back. what can i expect?

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in before the nerf

>>174996676

Midrange shadow is even more pervasive and cancerous than any deck in this game's history.

Don't come back, the game only got worse.

>>174996676
Replace Daria and OTK Roach with Mid-Shadow and Storm Ramp.

So same shit different smell.

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Why are you still playing this shitty, unbalanced, pay-to-win game when you can just play the superior card game?

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>>174995435
That must be some sort of curse.

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>>174996792

I like cute anime girls

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>Wake up
>No nerfs announced
>Go back to sleep

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>>174995435
>he doesn't play elana aegis seraph haven

lmao get gud

>>174996759
>>174996763

holy shit you guys werent kidding. how can the balance got worst than daria? just got my ass handed by ramp dragon with 80% bling lego deck. i miss my dragon memes

>>174996792
is that the new card game for ants?

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>>174997128
Becareful of who you bully in highschool Anon.

>>174995423
>I don't give a fuck what they call them.
And I don't give a fuck about your purists view of vampries either, nergin.

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>>174996972

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I hope your dailier go well today, anon!

>>174997128
Pay up kid, you need at least $100 decks to play in this meta.

>>174997405
They did actually. Bullied 3 lunas with Grail Haven as saw 0 Dragons.

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>>174997093
Maybe I should kill myself. Because It's pretty clear that I'm just a piece of garbage wandering this earth.

>>174996061
Yes, every deck should be made up of 40 bronzes, fight the good fight sir.

>>174997765
Even garbage has a purpose

>>174997765
Maybe you should try innovating. You could be the first person to play elana seraph aegis storm haven.

>>174997856

>Every deck should be expensive so I can get advantages through money instead of skill

>>174998103
Wait for Haven's Zell buddy :^)

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>about to get hype to grind for new sleeves/emblem.

>they're shit.

>>174997982
Not so sure about Shadowbabs.

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>>174998387

>>174998103
I actually played Storm Seraph back in the day. It have to be some kinda of sign.

>>174998484
shouldn't this be told to Shadow players?

>>174998387
Kill yourself, avatarfag.

>>174998387
How about you go kill yourself

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>>174998143
See, retards like you don't deserve the good stuff.
>skill
It doesn't take "skill" to get enough coins to buy packs.

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>38 unique IPs
>anons still bully one of them

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>played against 6 shadowniggers in a row
Would some kind haven bro offer me some advice here. I got no dark jeanne so no storm haven. Has anyone tried seraph aegis and had success?

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>>174997405
They did, I won three games in a row and got them done quickly.

Thank you Luna.

>>174998680
*has to be
I'll just finish my daily with haven storm in unranked then. Fuck you game

>>174999148

Switch from haven to shadow

You will win a lot more that way.

>>174999148
>havenfag
>too retarded to beat his one and only available snack
wew lad

>taunt up against shadow to stop the aggro
>you're buffing Shadow Reaper anyway.

Really makes you think.

>>174999293

Haven is negative against midrange shadow you ignorant fuck.

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>>174999254
>>174999293
Fuck off shadowniggers. Please just remove yourself.
I'm not even a havenfag I just want to make you suffer.

any news on a patch? or game still dead until next expansion?

>>174999078

>I can't win in games that reward the skillful player so I retreat to P2W mobile games and defend them

>>174999536
Looks like the only one suffering here is you.

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What's the general consensus on the Soul Dealer deck? Still meme status, or is it real?

>>174997765
>that Mind Crush

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>>174999148
I play this because the game insisted on giving me 5 tarnished grails. Works pretty well against most shadows to the point where I start feeling bad banishing all their shit, but I get rekt by dragon before I really get to do anything.

I'm not a havenbro though, I main shadow

>>174998387
Fuck off

What is kys blood? Any list?

>tfw nep doesn't summon anything useful

>>175000258
You're playing it wrong then.

>>174999580
>p2w
As I thought, you really are retarded. It's not p2w you little nigger. You should probably stop playing, if you can't get most of the decks after a few months of playing.
>I can't win in games that reward the skillful player
Are you quoting yourself? We are talking about shadowverse here, fag. The only advantage you get for buying crystals is a timely one.

>>174999143
Discord avatarfags have no rights

Tarnished Grail Haven is shit and I feel sorry for anyone who uses that deck but boy do I get (almost) salty when I (almost) lose to it

>>174996792
What game is this? Buddyfight or Vanguard?

>>175000476
>Lelouche
>"discord avatarfag"
Newfag?

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>>174992875
>>174993216
remember when we had 7pp 5/5 with ward that summoned a single 2/2? and on evolve gained +0/+0 but evolved the 2/2 into a 4/4?

now, two expansions later, there's a 7pp 5/6 that can summon 4 2/2s, give them all +2 and rush, and evolves into 7/8.

I fear for what I will see two expansions from now.

>>174999714
I want it to be a meme so I can vial my animated Soul Dealer, damn it, I want to make Storm Haven, already bored of Sword.

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>>175000476
We actually don't have and don't want Lelouch in the discord

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>>175000752
>opponent has 8 cards when grail goes off
>gets astaroth's anyway

ToG was a mistake

Is haven secretly OP in arena now? They actually have a viable control deck that can stall until they can play things like Bahamut and Aegis, and stops aggro dead.

>>175001176
yeah, one of them requires 800 vials while the other requires 3500

>>175001726
roach was the biggest mistake

>>175001004
Stop replying to lelouch dude

>>175001761
>cards with higher rarities should be better

Nah.

Have you started saving rupies for next expansion yet, /svg/?

>>175001390
>have 10HP
>no wards up
>Eris has 2HP
>Tarnished Grail about to go off
>Eris has one Evo point left
>"Oh boy here comes the Silent Rider, might as well concede"
>doesn't get Silent Rider
>summons Servant of Darkness and drops a ward
>ends turn
>"Holy shit thank the fucking RNGods"
>play DoD from my hand and kill Eris
I really do hate RNG cards like Tarnished Grail, not only did it suck for the Eris player, but it sucked for me as well as I was winning the game up until then and if Eris didn't heal up I would have lethal'd. And the uncertainty of the whole thing was killing me from the inside, it was like expecting a jump scare, and knowing that you will shit your pants regardless.
Fuck Hearthshit RNG bullshit cards, they are not fun at all.

>>175001737
I went 5-0 with Haven yesterday in Arena, so yes.

>playing guardian seraph
>up against dragon
>I play tribunal and plea to bait out lightning blast, as well as a ward to stop any ZellOuro shennanigans
>he blasts my board
>drop seraph next turn
>Thinking...
>"There's no one I'd rather lose to!"
heh

>>175001737
Nop. Ouroboros, Sword even Leonidas, Hulking Giant, Sword board flood, etc is incomparable.

>>175002157
>sword sword
I meant Shadow. The best you can do in t2 now is pick Dragon, Shadow or free-evolve points Sword.

I fucking hate Vampy leaders

I want to punch that little annoying shit in her fucking face.

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Where did it all go so wrong bros?

>>175002796
Luna and Lunafags are worse imo
Vampy is kinda cute, at least. And her deck isn't straight up cancer. And Vampyfags aren't as cancerous as they used to, nor are they bullies and smug as a cunt like Lunafags.

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Dirt is now most fun deck

>>175001886
yeah they should, what's the point of costing more vials, and otohime was already a vastly better play than neptune before it was cool anyway, and for 1pp less.

otohime isn't stronger in a linear way though they just serve different purposes, neptune just happens to be trash because there's 0 megalorca support.

>>175003008
This. Too bad I can't win a game with dirt.

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>>175002992
>her deck isn't straight up cancer

*kills you on turn 5*

>>175003008
What's the point of that when Carrot exists?

>>175003440
Staying on the board is very different than getting another copy in hand to spend PP on.

Tried Eternal. Pretty neat, but dead in the water due to using an even worse version of Magic's fucking trash fire of a mana mechanic.Never quite realized how much I appreciated the linear mana in SV. Sure, you can still draw shitty but it still doesn't feel nearly as bad as not even getting to play the game because your mana RNG decided you don't get to.

>>175002992
My favorite part about this post is how the thread was filled with dragonfags spamming "shadow's dead, press F to pay respects" when the servers were going down for the ToG maintenance

>>175003374
Because Vampy is tier 0 right?

>>175003565
fuck off autist

>>175003565
what's the name of that one game that isn't a card game but is at the same time? Uses hexagonal tiles. What was it called again?

>>175002974
Every good deck has obscene reach now. Cerb+howl was already a thing. Roaches were boosted with Goblin Mage. RoB added Albert. ToG added Zell and Eachtar now. When every class can deal 10+ damage, it's going to be "first to combo wins".

>>175003537
>can be banished
>waste your amulets to do nothing unlike professor's
>2/2
It is at least fun I guess.

>>175003684
>tier placement = cancer level

>>175003128
It costs more vials because it's rare. It's only in Cygames's best interests to guarantee that all cards at high rarity are must-have, not mine.

>>175003684
If tomorrow some shitty site says she is, she will be.
Remember what happened in RoB? Dropping from T1 to T2 on some shitty netdeck site literally turned any complains about Yurias from"overstated piece of shit" to ironic replies like ">complaining about a t2 deck" overnight when absolutely nothing changed otherwise. Public perception of the decks and classes is very important, which is why Dragoncucks are so busy diverting attention from themselves by screaming about shadow every opportunity they get, even though people are catching on now.

>>175004027
Yes, and? Tier 0 decks in any card game are almost unanimously referred to as cancer.

>>175004148
It doesn't matter what any sites say when we know from experience, from you know, losing and winning in the game, what decks are shit and what decks are not.

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Anyone want to help me with daily priv quest?
Win without concede would be great, because I still need to win some priv games for more rupies.
88459

24611

Looking for a concede, spam emotes if you want the full match.

>>175004148
>>175004280

To add to that, remember what happened when ramp Dragon was "T1" for a week because it beat Daria? It lead to the whole massive influx Dragon players, countered by Nep players, Dragon bitching about being countered because they are a T1 deck so Nep must be OP and ultimately the shitty meta we have now.

Would anyone even consider bandwagoning to Dragon back in RoB if it wasn't advertised as a Daria counter when in reality it wasn't anything special.

>>175004280
Well, good that there is no T0 deck in Shadowverse.

>>175004463
Yeah, let's just pretend Shadow doesn't exist, maybe that way Cygames will take a hint and delete the craft from the game.

>>175004115
exactly, the rarity tiers would have zero reason to exist if the rarest cards didn't distinct themselves from every other less rare card, and in a card game this means being stronger by definition in one way or another.

it is powercreep though I can't deny that, but I find it a bit more troubling when cards of same rarity get powercreeped, or when a neutral is straight up too strong compared to class cards (dod, grimnir).

>>175004460
SahaLuci was and is still some bullshit

Does anyone have an ungabat build? I want to do Blood dailies but I don't have the vials to make KYS and my old build isn't working anymore.

>>175004643
>45% winrate deck

>>175004570
Shadow beats everything except Dragon easily.
Dragon beats everything except Shadow easily.

Thats not a T0 meta.

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>>175004309
Thanks!

I don't even understand why they thought shadow needed that much help, it was in a decent spot in rob and didn't need much for the weaker archetypes to be strong.

>>175004686
Just make aggro and throw in stolen life

>>175004708
Getting dicked by dshift isn't very fun either, but I'm not allowed to complain about it because it's not the most BS thing in the game?

>>175004332
Never mind, finished it up with the guy above me.

>>175004879
Absolutely not, you have to wait until it's stated as T1 on some game site, then it's fair game.
Until then, just aggro them bro and stop complaining about a t8 deck :^).

>>175004708
not him but there's no "sahaquiel dragon" on shadowlog and syadoreco has them at 55% winrate and it's supposedly favorable against shadow

I guess doing 13 face damage with saha+baha+zell or 10 face damage plus a board wipe with saha+israfil+zell is pretty good against a class that doesn't heal huh
https://syadoreco.com/web/analytics/overview/46/0/4/19656

>>175005149
At least dragon has a lot of counters, like that 50% Roach match up and I guess blood when it draws perfectly and you brick or something :^)

>>175004794
Shadow winrates:

Forest 70.2
Sword 66.9
Rune 67.7
Dragon 52
Blood 60.6
Haven 57.2

Dragon winrates:
Forest 52.9
Sword 55.1
Rune 60.7
Shadow 46.5
Blood 49
Haven 54.6

Shadow still has >50% against dragon, the closest it gets to a bad matchup. Dragon overall also has many good matchups, but they are less good than shadow's. They are completely different tiers.

>>175004636
Rarity should not represent power. Rarity should represent complexity. Common cards are less complex, especially when designing for draft, because otherwise games become too complicated. But remember, complexity doesn't have to mean quality. Beast Dominator is a unique effect that needs to be planned around when making a deck, earning its status as legendary. That doesn't mean it's a good card. Khawy, a silver, has an effect that while powerful, takes little effort to understand, or to build your deck around. He's rightfully not a legendary.

I'm not going to be able to get the Little Soulsquasher emblem and sleeve in this shitty meta, and that's okay.

>>175005149
Does this have to be said 10000000000000 times for you retards to understand? If you label Ramp Dragon with different tags, everytime the deck loses before the specific variant can be identified (most Ramp losses, since Ramp loses mostly by being rushed down in the early game), people will report those losses under the more generic label. The generic label ends up tanking a lot of losses. That's why Ramp Dragon is at 48% in Syadoreco.
That Saha Ramp winrate isn't accurate and is just inflated. Dragon's winrate has to be looked as the class winrate or by taking every single Ramp label wins/matches and calculating a new winrate.

>>175005431
There's still time!

>>175005431
No it isn't, she's a cute girl. If it were some dude like Masamune I'd sort of understand, but it's not.

>want to play nep shadow but don't have any neps and mordecais

>>175005149
For the billionth time, Saha Ramp's winrate on Syadoreco and Storm Ramp's winrate on Shadowlog are inflated. You have to look at the class winrate.

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Tribunal or DoD in storm haven?

>>174999758
>>175000752
Have you tried using Bahamut to kill your own Grail?

>>175005830
Dance of Death.

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>>175005431
>don't want to play this shit meta even though i'm a shadowbab since steam release
>feel forced to get thighsquasher
Just 3.5k more... bah.

>>175005659
I'm a Sengokufag and I hate myself for not getting Masamune, speak for yourself.

>>175005417
>still using the shit Brick Ramp as an example instead of the real Storm Ramp deck.

Whatever helps your argument I guess. Both are absolute cancer and you can argue about a few % difference all you want, it doesn't change the whole picture. I don't care if I'm getting rekt 56% or 60% of the time, I'm still getting rekt.

>>175005830
Both

>>175005585
>>175005817
there's a difference between storm ramp and sahaquiel ramp. the moment a dragon drops sahaquiel we can be sure people are going to report it accurately on syadoreco, but there's no guarantee people will be reporting storm ramp accurately on shadowlog because the dragonfag dropped a forte or a genesis, so it's much, much less inflated for saharamp's case

>since Ramp loses mostly by being rushed down in the early game
ramp games still go longer than necessary for a sahaquiel play unless they brick.
why the hell do you think people complain about zell? just because of zell+ouro? is it not because of (usually) giving storm to baha from sahaquiel?

>>175005585
>>175005817
So what stops people from reporting shadow aggro wins as midrange wins because they never see hector?
If you go look at syadoreco you can see the average win turn for mid shadow there is 5.4 which means a whole lot of players didn't even get to witness Hector and probably died to holw+cerb or just conceded.

>>175006769
while that's true the class is still bullshit if you combine the wins/games of both decks

>>175006767

>shadow vs dragon

oh fucking boy, kys cygames shill

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35233 concede me pls

>>175005943
1. I'm not the person you were having the conversation with.
2. Nothing you said addresses my point. "I lose less than the statistics say I should" isn't an argument, as you haven't played nearly as many games as them.

>>175007132
ty elf

Can someone concede 47893 ?

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Since I've been bitching about this game alot, I might as well say one nice thing. I appreciate the fact that the top tier decks actually have alot of flex room. With Daria, it was maybe 6 cards you could flex, everything else was pretty static. With Shadow and Dragon you can mess with ratios and earlygame/lategame choices and still come out with a good deck.

>>175005659
I wish I was acute girl so people would want emblems of me.

>>175007352
You know why that is? Because their strong cards are so OP it almost doesn't matter what else is in the deck. That's really not something to boast.

>>175006769
Finally someone here agrees that all these statistics are skewed, retarded and unreliable

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>>175007302
Thanks sad angel.

Game keeps giving me haven dailies.
Anyone have a good storm haven list

Dragon is so fucking broken in take 2. holy shit. Fuck you rowen.

>>175007475
For separate decks.
Has absolutely 0 impact on winrates/playrates by craft.

I wish nep stopped giving me fucking bricks

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This is your starting hand tonight.

Cygames should just post official statistics, why is it so difficult?

>>175007832
Why should they?

>>175007832
Because there aren't any.

lmao

>>175007516
just add garuda and your choice between BLACKED jeanne or almiraj

>>175007518
dragon and shadow are both top tier now, it's really easy to get their broken legendaries and good value cards.

>>175007931
Shut up, intern-kun.

>>175007454
If you were a cute girl I'd make you my sleeve for sure, Anon.

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>>175007823
This is your starting hand tonight.

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>>175008160
Be real with me, man. Why the fuck would they ever reveal the numbers? It'll only work in their disadvantage. Use some common sense.

>>175008150
Hector doesn't work near as well as Ouroboros or Sybil in T2 though. Aegis is OP too.

need one more unique private match, I'll spam pass.
ID: 12695

>>175008249
Every time.
Maybe I should put 20 7-8 cost cards into the deck so the game will give me 2 drops in starting hands on purpose.

>>175008304
Shadow still has Catacombs and their generally good silvers and bronze. Dragon has more bombs, Shadow has all around power.

>>175008340
Thanks Luna!

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>only 86 people in this week's NGE tournament
lmfao lads

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>>175007823
You are like a little baby.
Watch this!
*nut*

>>175002974
Excessive damage from hand and really no way to stop it. That the devs and playtesters were delusional enough to think the game would slow down even slightly while making card like Eachtar and Zell, gives little help that things will ever improve.

>>175008464
Dragon also has really strong commons like Scyther, Lblast, Eyfa and Zell. Dragon is slightly better because of Ouroboros is the 2nd best legendary you can draft in T2.

>>175008745
I don't understand why they use the same time every week, and why it's during the fucking day

>>175008745
It's like NGE is complete joke or something.

>>175008745
Its dumb as hell to host a tournament like this in the middle of the week. Thats to be expected.

Is there even going to be a stream?

>>175008745
Shit time, shit format, shit meta, shit admins.

>>175008304
hector has won me games singlehandedly, as has thane and the usual khawys

12747

Need a concede, thanks in advance

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>>175008745
Wait people actually play tournaments in this trashcan meta? How embarassing.

>It's a Bahamut/Zell/Saha into double Grimnir by turn 8
>Impossible to kill Dragon before then because double Sybil

I N T E R A C T I V E

>>175009148
When I watched the ExG one even the announcers were resigned to the face that Shadow matches were a complete waste of everyone's time, and the class should really just be perma-banned until Cygames wakes up.

>>175009148
Good tournaments are played in 3 decks 1 ban so the tournament meta isn't as bad.

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>>175008802
That's nothing. Check this out ;_;

>>175009420
>3 bolt and homecoming in the same deck
What did you think was going to happen?

Does anyone here go for the masters rewards? what point range is usually the cutoff for top 100/1000?

>>175009349
They should just ban cards.
No Catacomb, No Zell, No Rhinceroach

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god damn salty D-shits

sadly it's not visible in replays but the asshat roped me for this

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http://game-ai.jp/31607/
Vengeance Blood that uses the meme mask and Moriana. It looks bretty fun.

Fuck it, haven is unstoppable in arena now. Good early to midgame that can threaten or defend themselves, and literally unbeatable endgame with Aegis and Bahamut. It's literally go face and hope they brick.

>>175009349
It's a good system, but how does it work if you only have one deck? Do you just have to not play

>>175009669
I've been running meme mask in kys and it's actually been doing a lot of work

Not sure if I'm a fan of the yuriuses though, i always want imps or blood wolves from blimp

>>175009349
this, doing a tournament with no bans is fucking retarded
>b-but everyone would just ban shadow
even better, because then we would have a better idea of a meta without shadow as the undisputable t1

>>175009830
Then you wouldn't even be able to play the normal NGE that requires 2 decks.
I mean, how can you even win a tourney if you have experience on just one deck?

>>175009902
The best part about having bans in a tournament is that the winning lists get posted and shitters flock to them not knowing that they're teched specifically for not playing against a certain deck

>>175009946
I have experience on a bunch of classes via friends accounts, I just haven't built any aside from blood.

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How do you cope with not having the cards needed to play fun decks you want to play?

>>175010179
By having almost 30k vials ready to go when a fun deck comes out.

>>175010240
shameless slut

>>175010179

I play games that aren't mobile trash like dota 2, starcraft, and guilty gear.

>>175010179
I never vial legendary cards So i have 3 soul dealers

>>175010409
Same but at the same time I think "if I vialed this right now I could play what I want", then again who knows, maybe in a month I will need those cards

>>175010240
i-i love you too anon

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>>175010240
I recognize those armpits.

Also, can you give me some love? I could use some nice pictures for some relief.

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I need a concede, please <3

36433

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>>175010240
>>175010624
Oh shit I picked the wrong one. Guess I was too distracted by SOMETHING.

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>>175010712
Thanks anon!

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>>175010778
>>175010624
Is the same artist you can try looking in pixiv

>>175010897
I know. But it's sexier when anons help me.

give me some codes for free 100 packs thx

>>175009250
You haven't see Shadow? I can get some bullshit from my replays right fucking now. If Dragon get nerfed Shadow will literally be unbeatable, Dragon almost can't handle them let alone the other crafts, which match really well against Dragon but it's still impossible vs Shadow. Haven doesn't work anymore so good luck nerfing the deck that loses to aggro, kys Blood and 80% of the previous meta while the babs run around free.

>>175010778
what is wrong with you
thats disgusting

>>175003951
Turn 2 with Turn 3 Alchemist almost guarantees board control for chip damage, it's actually ludicrously strong.
Can also put him down with a few sygils to set up lethal that's hard to get rid of.

>>175011095
sent ;)

>>175011028
nys

HUR DUR I HAVE FREE EVOS AND WARDS EVERYTURN

delet forest and sword

>>175011256
t. Shadow

>>175011183
i love it when dirt rune plays that because i just kill him repeatedly and waste all their sygils

>>175011256
>turn 2 Web Imp
>turn 3 Grimmnir
>turn 4 Soul Dealer
>turn 5 Air jammer with the last two imps

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>>175011028
>tfw dragon is greato daze

>>175011256
>Evo's are a part of what make Shadowverse unique
>Olivia used as a key tiebreaker when games go late
>Lol lets just ignore that and allow these classes to evo every turn instead

>>175011162
>say something about dragon
>b-but shadow
Every.Single.Time.
Also you CAN interact with shadow, not that it's going to do you any good, but you still can because they literally have no storm in their deck.
And before you start arguing, not a lot of people run howl anymore because if you're playing midrange right, you never have enough board space for howl and it's a dead card.

Also why the fuck do you think that only Dragon is getting nerfed, or only shadow is getting nerfed? They both need a nerf badly because nerfing one will only make the other unstoppable.

>>175011525
But you just wasted a bunch of resources to kill a 2/2
Depending on the deck they want you to do that.

>>175011593
you make no sense

>>175011621
Someone ITT played against the #4 guy on ladder and he had howl in his midrange list. I'm sure you know better than him, though.

>>175011528
And on turn 3-5. There's no removal tool for that besides Tribunal.

>>175011728
And how do you know he was playing midrange and not aggro?

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>>175011550
Forte was already great. Not that I'm complaining now.

>>175011807
https://twitter.com/search?q=%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8D%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD&src=typd

Almost all midrange lists are running 2 howls now

>>175011661
better than the sygils getting used on taboo's/halo golem/that thing that summons a g.golem every turn

>>175011528
You're forgetting the Vergence 4/4 along with Soul Dealer and then Jammer.

>>175011945
Dirt aggro doesn't run taboo/juno

>>175011945
My burn deck doesn't run any consumers other than Halo, Illusionist and Dragonlore
The tempo gain from you wasting time and resources on Illusionist is pretty key, usually I keep a sygil or two to in case I need them or to set up those two once Illusionist did his job.

>>175012224
never seen that before, you'd probably TRICK me with it then

Catacomb should be 2pp

>>175012337
I'd say give him a shot.
I thought he was hot garbage, but in a aggro dirt deck he really works.

>>175011875
>almost all decks run howl
>immediately below there are like 2-3 decks at least that don't
What are you tying to prove? There's a deck right under it that doesn't run howl and they are from the same date. It's a choice, probably tournament specific.
If you're going to shove top master players in my face as an argument I can just easily point at the number 1 player too.
Even going from my own experience I haven't seen a single howl played against me in the last week in Masters. it was all Hectors.

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why am I playing this meme

>>175012450
This.
Also It should make everyone spawn liches instead of skeletons.

>>175012450
But then there's only 1 follower on the board when i drop him on curve.
wtf worst nerf

>>175012679
And this iwhy neph is shit, this decks is only good against shit grind decks

>>175012679
Do you also play ledger?
It's fine on turns 4-7 for liches, but as soon as I play this piece of shit on turn 9+ it ALWAYS draws my Nep instead of Mordecai.

why does cygames hate us

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>>175012937
>>175012772
yes I do
also next hand after that match, mulliganed Mordecai away to get another and then draw the second right after
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong

>>175012757
>lich
>not servant of darkness

Kys

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>>175013115
Because people lewded and bullied Luna.

>Never see a Dragon not play Dragon Oracle on turn 2, followed by Rahab immediately after
>They're roughly 60% of the people I play against

Wow, not only do they get the best cards in droves in this expansion, Dragon players need to run exploits as well.

>>175013247
Yo uare playing with a deck that is only good against Cblood and Dragon without storm followers

>>175013326
Just spawn Tyrants that auto hit enemy face whenever they spawn, even if it's the opponent's turn

>>175013361
Welcome to my RoB experience.

>>175013361
they hard mulligan for it so is 55% of change to get oracle

>>175013361
They also seem to not brick ever anymore. Never had a dragon player lately just skip a turn like the good old days.

>>175012551
>it was all Hectors.
That's even worse.

>>175013538
AND Rahab?

>>175013621
rahab is like ~40% they don't mulligan for it

>Haven afks til the end of their turn
>Suddenly makes the obvious play of Priest of the Cudgel

Hmmm...

>>175013361
>>175013596
That is straight up a lie, shadowbb. Just calculate the odds, it's not near close to 55%. Mulligan most brick Dragon rather than get them some Oracles or Aileias.

>>175013767
I sometimes delay my turns because I alt+tab to shitpost

>>175013510
>>175013596
I just auto-concede now and give them the win if they want to tryhard AND exploit so badly. It's not worth playing against Dragon unless you're another type of cancer that counters it.

>>175013962
Shadowcuck go home.

>>175013910
>shadowbb
Every time.
I should really just ignore all counter arguments starting with that because I know there's no one to talk to really except for a projecting dragonfag who's upset for no apparent reason.

>>175013962
so this is why dragon have 49% of WR?

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Now that I have played the game for a very long time, I have some suggestions:

1) The board should be made wider and hold up to 8 cards at once
2) You should be able to freely choose your deck size from 25 to 35 cards
3) Haven needs a non-shit leader you can buy, I suggest Octobishop
4) There should be trap amulets that you put on the board top down that interact with enemy cards played, for example "if the enemy plays a follower, reduce its attack damage to 1"
5) Daily quests should be more interesting, instead of having 95% of them be "Win x times with [class]" there should be quests like "Play Lord Atomy 5 times", "Win a game with Seraph 1 time" etc.
6) Take Two should reward you with a ticket good for any 1 pack of your choice at the store, letting you freely pick standard/darkness/bahamut/tempest or any future ones
7) There should be a fun mode that changes weekly with wacky rules and settings, for example "you play with a random new deck every match", "all damage done is doubled", "PP is unlimited" and so on

>>175014151
t.dragonfag

>>175014180
>PP is unlimited

They already introduced this mode if you play dragon

>>175014180
>The board should be made wider and hold up to 8 cards at once
Stopped reading right there.

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>>175014375
What's the matter?

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>>175014180
>This post

>>175014151
Are retarded? You're saying Oracle is guaranteed when it's really isn't. Mullingan doesn't help, its a fucking gamble that no Dragon plays have the pleasure to put any hope on, shit gonna brick you almost every time.

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>>175014173
>Dragon has a 49% WR

Nice try bud.

>>175014109
>Say it's not worth playing against Dragon unless you're Shadow
>Get accused of being a Shadow player

That's some logic you have there.

>>175014180
I agree with all of these!

>>174995423
But anon, Dracula wasn't burnt by sunlight, he was just weakened by it.

>>175014561
>d-shift
>4.8 turns
is d-shift agro now? :^)

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>>175014561
>D-Shift Rune
>4.8 average turns

Cygames will pay.

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>>175014698

>>175014709
>>175014698
Probably people conceding the moment they see Merlin

>>175014698
>>175014709
Doesn't last past 5 turns now, it's so shitty

>>175013247
For a start, don't run 3 morde

somebody can share a heavencraft deck that use dark jeanne as main win condition?

>am 14k vials short of playing the ledger nep deck I want to play

kill me now

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>Ready up for a day of ladder thinking I can have some fun
>Shadows everywhere again

Nah. Nah man. Maybe I'll play again next week when I feel like it.

>>175014919
>win every game
>complain anyway

Never change /svg/

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>>175014884

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>>175014919
>Playing Dragon
>Winning
>Still complaining

>>175014529
Nobody is saying it's guaranteed, but you can't deny that dragon has a much smoother curve now with Rahab and sybil to the point where bricking is very rare. I saw maybe 1-2 dragons out of dozens who skipped turn 2 without playing something at least, not just Oracle.

>>175014996
Funnier is that he's a dragonfag.

If Master rank really is nothing but shadow and dragon, then I'm glad I didn't bother ranking up.

>>175014919
We work like shit to beat those fuckers, still there's people coming with some crap against us.

Anyone got a prince of darkness dragon deck for me?
I want to meme a bit

>>175015047

thanks anon i will try it.