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>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best)
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=d81bcfcf-8e09-4e55-b9ec-1ea99fd7aa98&action=buddy


>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

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Read the /eog/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cqJUuVT9 (embed)
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Now:
>Remove Anime

Future: (https://updates.eveonline.com/)
>New Suns
>PLEX and AUR change:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-changes-on-the-way/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-rework-follow-up/
>Missile changes:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6894505
>Upwell Refineries:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-upwell-refineries
>T3C Rebalance (Ex. CPU and PG subs merged, among others) ships will have 4 subs with 3 options each
>Vexor, Caldari Medium Industrials and Rupture remodel
>New Blood Raider caps and PvE Event
>CONCORD Ships:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515826
>New Project Discovery
>Outposts become Citadels


Past:
>March 14: "improved" Probe/Dscan, Fighter, HIC and Rorq changes
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, cargo notifications
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes, nobody likes Reyni (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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>>174929081
daily reminder theres nothing wrong with capitals, cloaky camping, jump drives or rapid lights
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>ANON STOP FUCKING RATTING FOR FUCK'S SAKE AT LEAST BUY THAT SHITFIT DRAKE ON CONTRACTS
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>trying this hard to hate goons
lmoa
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newbros keep in mind the recruitment link in the OP is a different from the previous ones and has no name affiliated with it, beware scams!
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>>174929412
>FC orders everyone to refit from invulns to therm/kin hardeners or get zero SRP
>he bought out the market in staging and sells them for 5 mil each
>'it's a free market, anon! why don't you import some modules if you don't like the prices?'
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Reminder there is nothing wrong with goons. Come join. Mittens banned furries.
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Who here wants to see Providence burn?
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> there is nothing wrong with goons
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navitas
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>>174930031
THE FUCKING ALLIANCE CEO WONT BLUE MY ALT. HOW CAN I DOCK MY JF IN THE STATION AND PARTICIPATE IN THE """"FREEE""" MARKET IF THE CEO WONT LET ME FUCKING DOCK WITH MY JF ALT.
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>>174930792
I'm already burning it daily. These shitters are so bad I podded the same guy 3 times in a row because he kept warping to our bubble camp
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>90% of what flies through are system is kitey cancer
>webs and damps counter kitey cancer
>no one ever brings webs and damps
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>>174931050
maybe you should join a real corp
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>hanging out doing nothing docked
>someone initiates chat and welcomes me to eve while asking if everything is going ok and wants to be my friend and help me out

what the fuck is this persons problem reee
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>>174931373
>living in highsec
Biomass yourself
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>>174931050
>hurr more logi more dps
I know the feel of being surrounded by retards
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>>174931373
>people talk to you
>desperately try and not engage too much in case they want a real conversation because they might be doing it out of pity or not want one and you just thought they did and now they hate you because you wasted their time
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>>174931050
I'm shit at pvp so I'm taking out shitfit T1 frigs and engaging everything until I feel more comfortable.

Does this mean using a Maulus was actually a good idea?
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>>174930994
>we don't set standings to individual alts, nothing personal anon
>your JF alt can join our permanently wardecced alt alliance for a small 1b/month fee
>all these JF alts and alt corps that do have individual standings are helping with vital alliance projects
>it's just a coincidence that leadership and directors have their market and jf alts in these corps
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>tfw can't tell if someone is legit new to EvE or is just someone's alt
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>>174931634
Mauluses are very good, but you need friends or a blob to back you up. They have literally no combat ability on their own.
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why can't you search epic arcs in agent finder? why can't you filter people who won't talk to you regardless of level?

ree
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>tfw too good at EVE because I've read up on game mechanics so every corp assumes I'm a spy alt
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>>174931904
I mean, I've gotten 2 interceptor kills in FW space with it. My drone skills are good and it can store replacements.
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>want to undock
>dunno what to do
>stay docked
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>>174932224
first person non ship combat when

this game would literally btfo every game in existence if you could play as your avatar clone what the fuck is ccps problem. Do they hate money.
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>>174932365
because if they put dust on pc no one would play the actual game.
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Why the fuck haven't you joined Oruze Cruise yet?
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>>174932701
Because I'm having too much fun in Brave Newbies, being near 25% of all fights in nullsec
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>circlejerk chart for wormholes
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>>174932701
Because they're HK pets and trying to join them is asking to get awoxed
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<b><right><color="0xFFC3E9FF">10%</color></right></b><t>reduction in <a href=showinfo:3309>Large Energy Turret</a> activation cost
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>>174932701
>tfw could go back top lazerhawks
>stay with corp that barely has 7b in the hole
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>>174932961
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>>174931000
You should camp Apocalypse Now's systems. They think they are elite pee vee pee and the smaller corps here hate them. So they probably won't defend their systems.
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>>174932701
I'm having fun in Anime Masters
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>I'm having fun in Anime Masters
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>>174932701
>NumActive
How is that measured?
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>>174932224
>been putting off the 80 jump round trip for the past week
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>>174935798
probably by how many unique characters they can crawl from killmails over a period of time
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>FW fags are using machs now
What the fuck is lowsec now?
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lowsec is dead
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>>174935198
which systems are those?

I'll put a cloaky camper there
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>>174937192
Machs have been a lowsec meme for a long time
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>>174937192
>only Snuff, SC and PM are allowed to field BS fleets in lowsec
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How come Gnosis are so fucking common and ship? aren't they a limited edition ship?

Should i be buying and hoarding them for when their price goes up?
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>>174941975
A fuckton of them were given out in an event last last year. They've been hovering around 40m for months. Eventually they'll go up but it'll be a super long-term investment.
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>>174942093
>super long term

lmao just buy them all now. 40m is cheap af
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>>174942392
They're actually going for around 44m atm. After the event back in November they were around 40m so if you're okay with only making a 10% profit over a half a year go right ahead. It's not like they're going to suddenly shoot back up to 60m like they were before the event.
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>>174942710
Not to mention the spike from 40m to 44m was very recent and sudden after months of stagnation.
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>>174942710
What are the odds they do another one every now and then to keep the alpha's supplied?
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>>174944095
I wouldn't bet against it
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>>174929081
Solo sounds worse tee bee heich
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>heich
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scorch nerf when
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>see neuts in system
>stomach starts turning, can't enjoy my dinner
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT ANTI-CLOAK STRUCTURE
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>>174937265
I have literally been sitting in a plex for an entire hour. I'm inclined to agree.
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>>174946026
waiting for the local scrambler to be coded
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>when you finally make a corp with irl friends but have shit ships and need a space in null sec

>and you don't want lose the deployable for station

Help, what do?
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>>174949496
Live in NPC space.
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>>174949556
We would, but we've got plans.

For sovereignty.

Of null-sec.

Look, we're very ambitious.

(also, we're going to be producing drugs)
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>>174949734
Walk, then run.
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>>174949920
Yeah, I know. The question is, what do I do when I finally reach the run point?
How do I evade the infamous gate campers?

How do I get a bloody station all the way into null-sec and deploy it without losing it and myself?
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>>174950284
have a friend stay 1~2 jumps ahead of you and tell you if the gate is camped or not
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>>174950463
Oh.

That's so simple.

Shit, that actually works.

Thanks man!
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>>174950636
desu you can do that yourself if you have an alt too
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>>174950790
Eh, haven't invested in an alt yet.

BTW, I'm playing Caldari ECM+missiles, and my three friends are all Gallentean hybrid turrets+drones.
Should I find a Minmatar artillery player for alpha, or is there a bigger hole that needs to be filled?
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>>174950891
You should really get someone that can fly a JF to supply your corp with fuel, ships, ammo, drones, and to sell the loot you'll get from the rats
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>>174950891
The only time alpha is really important in PvP is in larger fleet fights where you can organize enough people to instapop enemies so logi can't get to them. In small gangs it doesn't matter.
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>>174951008
JF....?
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>>174951150
Jump Freighter

It's a hauling ship that can jump from several systems of distance.

You won't have to risk getting ganked or gatecamped on travelling duty if you fly one of these.
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>>174949556
>>174949920
>>174950463
>>174950790
>>174951008
>>174951021
>>174951682
Thanks everybody! I got to head off now, but this actually helped a lot. I think the corp can now get a jumpstart. Every piece of advice helped, and I hope I can make it somewhere!

(or my corporation will just end up being selling drugs from god knows where)
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Is this really a thing?
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>>174954213
Yes. It's been known for a while now.
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>when you win a contract worth 5b for 2.1

Well that's this and next months plex
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>using autopilot
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>Hyde
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>people who die to hisec wardeccers
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>"heh, lets show them how much of a waste of time wardeccing us was by docking up for the next week"
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>>174937393
I will let you know when I get home from work.
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>live in wormhole
>wardecced
>people still manage to die
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>>174957930
Jokes on them. I still make billions during that week and played another game for the most part.
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>"heh, look at their pathetic attempts to disrupt my activities, jokes on them, I just played something else all week"
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>"OK boyz we're gonna need some downdootz on this thread"
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>>174955616
yfw you were scammed
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>>174896920
I have t2 light fighters skills but no flight hanger yet...so i have like 15 days to get mintman carrier 1 and 7 more days to get t2 fsu...and then actually find a carrier to buy.
Although i will probably lose it really fast...or lose all the fighters.
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>>174949496
Live in wormholes, it's the best thing to do with trusty bros.
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>Live in wormhole
>Get decced
>Go out of our hole to fight the deccers
>Can't find them no matter where we look
>War ends with no kills on either side
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Retribution
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>>174955616
>>when you win a contract
Yeah that never happened to me once on those really retarded auctions.

Is there a trick to sniping contracts? This shit is worse than 0.01 isking.
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Almost finished my training plan for the kitsune. How angry are autists going to be at me for flying it against them?
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>>174965170
2 ladars put minmatars to heel
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>>174961965

Carrier ratting is piss easy, you just can't afk it. If you're really worried about losing fighters you can use a couple of drone hp rigs.
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>>174965609
Should I just take 2 min ones and 2 caldari ones? Drones are still gonna attack and no one flies amarr ships
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>>174966312
>no one flies amarr ships
FC, what are guardians?
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>>174965671
Yea i guess...i don't even know how to fit them though, i guess i can steal someone else's fit from corp...
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>>174965170
Quite angry. I lost two curses to this shit :c
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>>174966391
Okay aside from guardians but I'm mostly involved in smaller scale fights not blobs
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>>174966312
Do you have the space for a mobile depot and spare jammers in your cargo? You could always swap before the fight if you have enough time.
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>>174966708
That's true. I'll check that tomorrow, thanks anon. Also should I be using a prop mod or sensor booster? If I'm out at ~70-80km wouldn't I just warp out if anything got close?
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>>174966391
or Slicer/Sentinel/Legion/Sacrilege/Curse/Pilgrim/Omen/Revelation/Reedemer/Apostle/Archon/Aeon
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>>174966621
See this >>174967062
Also for smaller Punisher, Tormentor, Dragoon, Corecer are all good
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>>174967062
>>174967149
Lads my skills are 75% amarr. I'm not saying they're all bad but they are definitely the least flown by some margin. I rarely see amarr ships
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>>174967525
Because Amarr is the race that needs quite a lot of skills to fly compared to gallente for example. Personally I only have Sacri and Archon(Nightmare probably doesnt count lol)
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>>174966312
If you are fitting 4 go 3 ladars 1 mag I think that's too much ecm for a frigate.
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>>174929081
REMINDER newfags.
Referral link in the OP is under nobody's name, beware scams.
Only click on referrals with at least a name.
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I have 21 days left on my omega status
500 mil isk
I can make a few hundred million per day because I'm still a pleb that mines in sovnull all day
I only have about 2.5 mil SP

Should I worry about saving up 1.2bil extra at all times for plex or should I try and buy more injectors first?

How good is manufacturing for profits, I've been stockpiling a variety of null ores (our main system has some of each type) so i can reprocess once i get my skills up to 86% and potentially use the minerals for even more profit. What sells well?

Atm ive just been manufacturing drones, mining barges a few vexors and exhumers, (and the apropriate modules for them) for my alliance buddies but that is decent profit too since I mark up the prices by 20-30% compared to jita but they still buy them because its easier than making 50 jump trips to hubs and JFs arent numerous in our alliance.

I dont obviously flip that many units of those so I've been thinking about working on something that can be mass produced
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>>174971931
t. ref link scammer
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>>174972013
1. Stop mining
2. Leave worst space
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>>174972078
t. nameless ref like scammer
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>>174972013
A plex (~1.25b) will give you more skillpoints than two injectors (~1.35b), assuming you have a good attribute lay-out for your current skill plan. If you want to get the best value for your isk you should always get the plex, although obviously you won't get the instant gratification.

>What sells well
>Atm ive just been manufacturing drones, mining barges a few vexors and exhumers, (and the apropriate modules for them) for my alliance buddies but that is decent profit too since I mark up the prices by 20-30% compared to jita
Looks like you already know what to do. A profit margin of 20-30% is very good in industry. Just keep doing that but don't jack up the prices TOO much because your alliance will frown upon it and you won't make many friends that way.
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>>174972521
>worst space

Can you find respawning sites that drop 7-8 billion isk implants every few days anywhere but nullsec? Didn't think so.
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>>174973163
Nah, but I can do 7-8b ISK a day outside nullsec not counting drops(implants/items up to 1b for one site)
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>>174973435
Where?
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>>174973464
Lowsec
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>>174973529
Doing what?

Also, if you'd said hisec mining, I would have tracked you down ingame and podded you repeatedly, because hisec is cancer and needs to be nerfed and shrunk until it's reduced to the place where newbies learn the game.
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>>174973658
>Doing what?
:)
>Also, if you'd said hisec mining, I would have tracked you down ingame and podded you repeatedly, because hisec is cancer and needs to be nerfed and shrunk until it's reduced to the place where newbies learn the game.

Highsec is better than nullsec in terms of making ISK. Also noone is scared of nullsec players. They are like the worst pvpers. Good for dropping in BLOPs and killing their supers.
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>>174973658
he probably does L5s
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>>174973897
Actually it's not, because money in EVE mostly works on supply and demand, and highsec is so fucking full of people mining/ratting/manufacturing that almost anything other than ISK you get from there is basically worthless.

And it doesn't matter if we're individually shit at PVP, because we're Brave Collective, and drowning people in swarms of frigates and destroyers is what we do.
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>Brave
hahahahahahahaha
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>>174974139
>almost anything other than ISK you get from there is basically worthless
SoE missions and incrusions. You can do those in alts. Its like 200m/h. So basically better than nullsec in terms of earning ISKs.
>Brave Collective
oh jesus, why...
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>>174974348
>>174974676
BRAVE is great for industry
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>tfw all i do is rat in ishtar.
>don't even have L5 heavies.
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Join the burn of proviblock today!
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>>174973897
>Highsec is better than nullsec in terms of making ISK.
No its not. Null produces way more isk than high sec by far. Both in raw amount and per capita
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sup goys, I used to live in Wspace for a long time but i quit before citadels were a thing, is Wspace shit now that they exist? What should I do if i come back?
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>>174975053
nice meme, nullsec is only better if you're multiboxing VNIs while carrier or super ratting.

carrier ratting is worse income than highsec (or lowsec) and there's no reason you can't multibox VNIs while doing 99% risk free high sec PVE that can never get shut down.
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>>174975053
>Both in raw amount and per capita
Man, I wonder if thats connected to the fact that most newbies live there. Not even counting Jita alts.
Also sounds like you fell for nullsec meme. You make like 180m/h when ratting in carrier iirc. You make 200m/h flying logi in hs incursions.
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>>174975053
>Null produces way more isk than high sec by far
You are technically right, but conceptually wrong.

Null ratting income is primarily handed out in the form of bounties (isk directly to your wallet)

In highsec on the other hand, most of the value of missions is in the LP, not in ratting bounties.
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>>174975421
>>174975410
>>174975053
Regardless of whether it does or doesn't, highsec SHOULDN'T allow you to make more isk/hr than lowsec/nullsec if you're careful. Otherwise the risk-reward calculation gets thrown out of whack, and lowsec/nullsec dries up and starts to die. Which is what we're starting to see.

Which is why everything below 0.8 should become lowsec, everything below 0.3 should become sovnull, and level 4 missions/incursions should be moved out of what remains of highsec once it's been cut down in size.
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>>174975846
talking about risk/reward and thinking nullsec is fine, nice meme
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>>174975846
Sov null should be removed or at least there should be more NPC null stations to drop on those noobs easier
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>>174975846
>level 4 missions/incursions should be moved out of what remains of highsec once it's been cut down in size.
CCP has stated multiple times that highsec missioning is a significant portion of the playerbase. You would lose a good chunk of the players overnight if you did this, regardless if it's a good or bad idea down the road.
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>>174975286
You're fucking retarded and you didn't look up anything

The majority of isk made is via bounties
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/MER/Feb_2017/9a_sinksfaucets.png

The majority of exports comes from null sec

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/MER/Feb_2017/8_net_exports.png

A majority of income from mining comes from minerals exported from nullsec

http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/70511/1/3_mining.value.by.region.png

This is why Fozzie for years has hated the amount of income from nullsec. Nullsec generates more isk than any other sec space even though a majority of players live in high sec

Fozzie never talked about needing higher income only nullsec because of this http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/70511/1/3_mining.value.by.region.png
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>>174976226
not him but

>The majority of isk made
That means liquid isk. It doesn't account for things like the LP store, which is where the primary value of L4 missions is at. The graph doesn't show a thing about LP income. It only shows the isk sink of the loyalty point store.
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>>174975846
LVL4s are an Isk sink and most people do casual full clears. If everyone was blitzing burners LP values would drop to FW or navy corp levels and you would end up with afk VNI ratting levels of income.

If CCP shifted Incursion income towards LP instead of raw Isk ticks high sec income would be fine. There's only so much demand for faction items.

>>174976226
I'm talking about attainable individual account income, not Isk generated from bounties.

Sovnull just isn't that amazing when you look at how much you can make when you actively play a single account.
There's a reason that w-space and lowsec players are richer than the average nullbabby.
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>>174977504
but AFK VNI income is shit
you don't need to do burners, pirate LP L4s are insane isk if you blitz, they can even beat C4 site running
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>>174973093
Well I think that the tradeoff isnt just instant gratification but also that I would make a lot more isk if i had more sp at this point. Inwill try to spreadsheet that stuff and fogure out whats best. I can probably get both an injector and a plex by the end of my sub.
>>174972521
Running l4/l5 missions and incusrions have higher minimum sp requirements than what i cureently have. And null indistry pays better than mining kernite and running l3 missions all day.

Also its more fun because bros, so raw isk/hr is less important to me if It would make me feel miserable.
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It really staggers me how industrial people actually do all this shit to produce t2 & rigs & capitals & t3's

it's a whole new fucking level of autism, and for what? A few million isk profits

pathetic
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>>174977723
>pirate LP L4s are insane isk if you blitz
They are also not in highsec
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>>174978147
Factional Warfare is the answer then
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>>174978245
Id need to plex a new alt for that or leave my corp so its not ideal while I'm stuggling to make ends meet

But I was planning on doing that at a later point, yes.
Also phoneposting like a true shitter so sorry for the numerous typos
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>moved my alts into null corp
>start thinking about leaving null
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>>174978147
>I would make a lot more isk if i had more sp at this point
Very doubtful. You will also not be able to make use of your new injected skills if you let your account lapse back into alpha state anyways, so you would need a plex regardless.
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>>174977504
>There's a reason that w-space and lowsec players are richer than the average nullbabby.
You don't have a single source to back up this claim at all. Secondly there's no way to stratify between a single account and a person with two accounts doing separate shit
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>>174978418
You can make easly ISKs for plex in FW desu. So you should try it. Its also place where you can go pvp solo and in fleets. Cheap ships, good isks and lots of fun
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>>174978153
A few million isk profits per item per day.
Considering you can have 11 slots, this will ramp up to 50-100m a day for clicking a few fucking buttons in the industry window.
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Didn't want that Fortizar anyway.
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>>174980347
They're op as dick how did you lose it?
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>>174981018
People shoot it and it dies
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>le JFs can't die meme
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>>174978513
Not him but last thread someone posted the numbers. WH makes the most per capita.
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>>174981018
Maybe it was coming out of its baby timer.

Another top notch decision of CCP to have a 24 hour broadcast timer COME SHOOT ME and not even allowing it to be pre-fit.
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I just want to shut rats in their stupid fucking faces.
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>>174976226
>Most isk made in bounties
>Bounty hunters/ing isn't a thing
Uhh /dog/? Explain!!!
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>>174982319
Rats have bounties too.
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>>174982319
NPC bounties
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>>174982319
retard alert
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>>174981170
>le players in 10b ships can follow simple instructions meme
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wait, where do i park Hel.
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can't find information about this online.

are skill injectors created, like drugs, or how do people get a hold of them?

can I sell/give my tutorial skill injector to my main?
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Hey guys I got out of things for a while. What ever happened to walking in stations? Is the game still just people in capsules flying their ships?
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i'm new. i heard the devs were planning to allow players to wander around in stations and hang out at bars and go down to planets and fight on the ground and stuff. sounds cool. when is it supposed to be implemented?
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>>174984029
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>>174983880
they are created by using skill extractors
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>>174983880
They buy skill extractors and extract skillpoints from their characters and sell it
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>>174984190
>>174984309
where do skill extractors come from? data sites?
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>>174984149

What? It was supposed to be 18 months out when I left.
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>xhe fell for the walking in stations meme
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>>174984471
aurum store
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>>174984190
>>174984309
cool. can I give them away to my main tho?
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>>174984702
did they remove this? what happened to the useless version where I could look at my ship on a couch
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>>174984776
yes you can inject those SP wherever you want. But unless you have 5m SP on injected char you will inject SP less than you extracted
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>>174984702
>>174984909

Well it's only been ten years since they demoed it. Is it really just trading and PVP still? It's been a fucking DECADE.
>>
oneiros
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tell me why your corps no flying heavy beam maller fleets on a regular basis.
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>pod someone
>type gf in local
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In Pator Tech there has been a fair mention of CODE over the past week. The conversation usualyl seems to start with 5 year plus clones saying CODE are moving system.
I'm wondering whether these old clones are alts from CODE looking for the next best palce to harvest tears. It's just strange that I haven't heard of the pilots in corp chat, yet they suddenly start coming in and talking about it. Like they're pushing the topic.
thoughts?
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>npc corp chat
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>>174991491
Stop giving those shits any attention. You're just encouraging them.
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Are there any RP corps in eve?
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>>174995372
yeah, http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=5629.0
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>>174995538
Thanks ^^
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Is the Volition Cult any good?
I would like to live in querious for the small pvp gang fights and they look to be the strongest alliance there
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>>174999461
>REICH
And which one of you faggots did this?
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>>174999461
they're pretty average
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>>174999461
They outgrew Provibloc, joined Stainwagon, got farmed by LUMPY and then evicted by LEGACY when they invaded the south.
They're maybe slightly above renter tier, I wouldn't join them for small gang PVP unless you're just looking for somewhere to base.

Have you looked at Stain corps?
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>>175000637
Stain is further away, seems to be less active, looking at the number of pilots/kills/jumps and its also bigger than querious, seems less comfy to me.
But if you have region suggestions I'd be happy to hear them, why do you reccomend stain?
I know its sansha space so anomalies are worth more but Im mostly interested in pvp
I want a medium sized alliance with semi-regular small fleet skirmishes and non-autistic members
Who are also hopefully not being farmed to death by blobcorps.

And if it matters I mostly fly armor-tanked ships
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>>175000394
what is this app?
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>>175001413
Eve eye
It can also track where you are, material efficiency indexes, hourly kill updates etc. I use it for navigation a lot, saves me from many gatecamps and helps me find nice chokepoints for skirmishes
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>start playing again
>me and all my stuff are on an abandoned station in WH space
>dont feel like scanning
>log off

Give me reasons to make an alt.
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>>175002693
Don't do it, play other games.
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>>175002693
because the player tutorial has voice acting and aura is thicc as fug now
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>>175001317
Check out Wrecktical Supremacy., Good Sax and LEX
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>>174999461
Just be frank, you'll just be there to leech from the new blood raiders content.
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>new blood raider content
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>content that caps outs laser and hybrid fleets, shuts down shield tanks, and encourages armor machs even more.
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If only there was a ship that would feed you cap
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>>175004340
If I wanted pve I'd run memecursions
>>175003748
Thanks, I'll give it a look
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>>175005321
Fucking fortizars are the same. They're OP trash

The capital bombs work too well on subcaps. Basically the fortizar webs down one guy in the fleet, then your entire fleet can't go anywhere because you can't leave him behind then the fortizar neuts and neut bombs you to hell and back and you can't do shit about it because you can't firewall the bombs, you can't target the bombs and they have 2m EHP

>>175005459
Its fucking pointless to try because the neuts neut for so fucking much and the bombs hit so fucking often

You can't bring ANY active ANYTHING to fortizar fights
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>you can't leave him behind
???
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>>175006969
The single web on a fortizar webs for something retarded like 90%. It also has a point and neuts out to 300km

you can't leave the webbed and pointed guy behind at all.
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>>175006292
>your entire fleet can't go anywhere because you can't leave him behind
L M A O

Your typical FC doesn't give a shit about your ass. If leaving you behind saves the rest of the fleet, he will.
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>Leaving your bros behind
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>300km

I really thought they'd have some interesting positional stuff on citadels since they're so huge, but instead all their weapons are just infinite range
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>>175007305
>these bunch of dickeating, F1 pushing monkey brains
>bros
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>>175007135
There is literally nothing preventing you to continue burning. Logi reps have huge range.
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>>175007180
>lemme just lose a machariel
>and another
>and another
>and another

Yea sure if he needs to get away, but its an offensive fleet to try and kill the fortizar

but the fortizar is a hyper 300km web, point, and neut bullshit that will pin your fleet and you CANNOT do a fucking thing about it
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>>175007451
>continue burning
except the web that pins the anchor in the fleet and stops you entirely. 90% webs and neuts, you aren't going anywhere with zero cap, sub 50m/s speed and shit.

The neut bombs are massive, the fortizar single neut is also massive. You can't resist the neuts at all, even with batteries you can't do shit because its SO much
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>>175007460
It pins ONE guy you fucking retard.

>>175007619
The rest of the fleet can burn you fucking faggot.
>one guy gets webbed
>ok guys stop, we need to take the full pounding because one guy got webbed
lol
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>>175007619
Use a cap injector so you can still activate your mwd and tank mods?

The fortizar neuts have a fucking huge cycle time.
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>activate your mwd
>>infinite range warp scrambler
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>>175007719
>It pins ONE guy you fucking retard.
Yea who the fortizar pilot knows is the anchor. Your entire fleet stops and you can't do shit.

>The rest of the fleet can burn you fucking faggot.
Burn to what? you're gonna let your FC/anchor behind? What are you going to burn? you're on grid with a monster that can neut everything within 300km

>>175007736
You get hit by a neut bomb that kills half your cap every 10 seconds. cap booster does nothing
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>>175002693

Game's on the way out, might as well get into something else. Or maybe fuck around with your character one last time.
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>>175007890
If your fleet members are so shit they require an anchor to function then you have no business bashing a fortizar in the first place.
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>anchor stops moving
>fleet crumbles
lol
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is he right, /eog/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0
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>>175007903
On its way out? Really? Jeez, what did I miss?
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>>175008023
>minimum number of people needed to saturate the fortizar damage threshold to pause the timer is easily 40+ fucking machariels
>can't drop caps on it because neuts and supercap bombs will rape them
>can't bring carriers because point defense kills ALL drones and fighters
>can't bring ANY active tank because neut bombs are unavoidable
>can't bring ANY weapons that need cap because neuts will kill you
>can't bring MWD because infinite range scrambler.
spreading out gets you nothing.
>>175008031
its not that the fleet crumbles. You can face tank the damage easily, the fortizar doesn't do much itself but you aren't going to move anywhere.
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>>175008262
This is why people use the passive hardener machariels. Autocannons don't need cap and you can't shut off their tank.

The only real thing that is only mildly unaffected by the neut bombs are guardians because their cap transfers cycle faster than the neuts and neut bombs can neut you. Even then the cap is 1 up 1 down so if some logi gets jammed or neuted to death you just compensate and adjust cap chain.
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>you aren't going to move anywhere.
Holy shit you are so fucking dumb
>fc unable to call for take over
>fc unable to call for free burn and maintain orbit
>fleet unable to double click in space to continue burning
>having corpmates so retarded that nobody tries to take the initiative and become the temp anchor
Even fucking incursion runner have more brains. Your corp is shit as fuck. Kill yourself.
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I like the idea of area effect weapons on citadels because they're inherently an anti-blob tool, but they need to be way weaker and have ammo coinstraints and not just be homing bombs. remove citadel fighters and all tackle and point defence desu, and make them easier to destroy. preferably make them entosis rather than a 'worst of both' version of entosis and structure grinds
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>>175007429
But dicks are good for my diet
And I rebound the key from f1 to middle mouse

We are still bros, right?
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>>175008568
>>fc unable to call for take over
It doesn't fucking matter, what are you gonna do? go 30km from the guy whose pointed/webbed then what?

>free burn
to fucking what? the grid is literally a bubble of neuts and neutbombs have MASSIVE explosion diameter.

>continue burning
TO FUCKIN WHAT? You can't burn very far from your person thats sitting still.

>>175008606
Its not even an anti-blob tool. You need a blob to kill a fortizar and all the fortizar does is neut everything, kill every drone and keep entire fleets still regardless if you think you can fly somewhere it doesn't fucking matter you aren't/can't go far.
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>>175007890
>implying a fleet cant have a secondary anchor
>implying there isnt a backup FC ready
This is stupid to the point where I feel like I'm getting baited.
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>>175008796
>Its not even an anti-blob tool

area effect weapons are more effective vs lots of people, so you can make them very weak vs individuals in a balanced and non-shit game
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>>175008796
Fucking burn anywhere, you autism shitfit blobmachs go like 500m/s max anyway. Just fucking orbit at 20 or whatever.
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>>175008886
Where the fuck are you gonna go? leave one guy behind while he slowly falls out of logi range until he dies and the fortizar points another?

Or are you gonna keep within 30km of that machariel so you can keep max reps on him if he takes damage?

You're fucking retarded you can't even think 2 steps ahead to figure out what the fuck you're gonna do about the person whose webbed and pointed. Nothing.

>>175008968
The bombs are super capital bombs meant to neut out super capitals. But they have such a huge neut range, neut explosion radius and amount that the signature penalty of the neut can cap out battleships in 2 hits which land every 10 seconds. Cap boosters and batteries don't help at all.

>>175009053
oh man you're gonna hold a useless 20km orbit while an enemy defense fleet is allowed to get right on you. AKA you can't go ANYWHERE in this 1.13097×10^8 volume of a neut sphere.

>just go 20km
and what does orbitting at 20km get you? nothing. You can't maintain any distance, you're just gonna get run down by an enemy fleet and you're forced to brawl or you're getting rained on by enemy rattlesnakes from 100km because you're stuck sitting still.
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>>175009245
>The bombs are super capital bombs meant to neut out super capitals. But they have such a huge neut range, neut explosion radius and amount that the signature penalty of the neut can cap out battleships in 2 hits which land every 10 seconds. Cap boosters and batteries don't help at all.


I did say make them weaker, make them not home, and give them ammo constraints
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he's actually retarded
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>500 m/s

The capacitor is empty
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>>175009365
Make them targetable, WAY less hitpoints so you can firewall them and shoot them.

Slow them way the fuck down so cruisers can actually outrun them

remove the 300km webs, neuts and points, reduce all that shit to something WAY more reasonable.
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>>175009407
this, remember faggots you're permanently neuted
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>>175009479
>Slow them way the fuck down so cruisers can actually outrun them

we don't need yet another area of pvp where battleships are trash desu
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>>175009479
If you make them targettable or firewall-able you're just going to promote blob play.

These are anti-capital neuts and they should only work as such. Make subcaps (almost) immune to them.
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>>175007903
Dafuk you on about
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>>175009676
The battleships are already trash.

>>175009695
you NEED a blob to kill a fortizar. There is no inbetween from this, you need a blob to kill the fortizar no matter what

the fortizar is using super capital weapons on subcaps which is totally wrong.

You can't use capitals on the fortizar anyway. Point defense kills all fighters and drones
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>remove fortizars
>remove fozziesov
>remove cloaky camping
>remove capitals
>rollback to Exodus
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>>175009942
Fozzie already said at fanfest they're going to nerf the shit out of fortizar neuts, webs and jams because of this. Same with keepstar shit

He also said hes gonna make them way more vulnerable so you can hit them in a wider time window
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>>175010145
Also citadels without fuel will die in one bash cycle and won't have a RF cycle just like POS's this will hopefully clean up a lot of highsec
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>>175010145
All he said was they are too defensible.

Also one of the other devs at fanfest said they need more data before they tweak the numbers.
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>>175010036
I'll miss wormholes but I think it'll be worth it.
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>>175010294
I recall him saying the neuts were definitely too powerful and they were getting pulled back soon(tm)
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>make the game shit
>worth
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>>175010036
as awful as eve is, it has also only been getting better. if you just screech autismally about today's broken thing and forget there was always even more broken shit in the past then kys
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>cap

when will it be possible for cap transfer sluts to see how much cap the target has easily like they can see hp?

and cap transfer drones when?
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>>175010586
Logi should have the unique ability of seeing capacitor
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>CCP deletes k-space and everything in it
>what used to be TQ w-space now connects to Serenity
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>le funny serenity meme
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>>175010812
or just any targeted ship you can see the cap if it's in your fleet
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>>175010934
I don't know. I don't think an enemy should be able to see your capacitor. Members in fleets maybe?
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>>175010036
>literal weeks of pos bashing, no fights and even worse lag
yeah nah
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>>175010978
That's what he said, chucklefuck.
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>le funny wormholes aren't cancer meme
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are citadels like npc dock places except player owned and can be destroyed?

how much isk do you need to own one
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>>175010978
>if it's in your fleet
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>>175011070
an astrahaus is 1b
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Cloaky blops interdictors when?
>>
heavy assault mining barges when
>>
>>175012326
we already have those, minus the mwd sig reduction
>>
Cloaky XL Torpedo Assault Battlecruiser when?
>>
Ultra rapid light missile launcher battery when?
>>
black ops shuttle when?
>>
muninn when?
>>
Cloaky blops rookie ships when?
>>
5th mid on hurricane when
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>>175013553
5th mid stabber when
>>
>interceptor fleet in system
>guy needs help
>fleet stuck at gate because some guy bubbled for those interceptors
>>
Good t1 bc/bs when?
>>
bellicose navy issue
>>
>>175013817
as soon as capitals faction ships t2 ships and t3 ships get fixed they'll be completely fine
>>
Buffer module rebalance.
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>>175014110
?
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>>175014225
when
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>>175014337
yea I mean what is needed with the rebalance?
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Who even owns the upwell palatine keepstar atm?
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>>175014545
Fix 800 and 1600mm plates, Fix shield extenders.
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>>175014747
rigs and implants mate. trimarks and cdfes are retarded, so are slaves
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>>175014747
make 1600mm plates the new battleship plate, make 800mm plates the new cruiser plates

invent a new XL shield extender

either that or remove small shield extenders and rename the set up the line because they're garbage
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>>175014886
Literally never said a word about that. Faggot.
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>>175014971
I was informing you of the facts, friend
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Fix the production materials for t2 armor resist and aux/nano. Make LSE not a joke on battleship hulls. Fix/remove SSE
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Fix T2 armor rigs from all using intact armor plates

none of the T2 shield rigs have the same materials. Only T2 armor rigs ALL need intact plates this causes them to be MASSIVELY overpriced vs the equivalent shield rig
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>>175015115
>>175015109
hivemind
>>
Coming back, stopped playing in 2012

Any of the /vg/ clans around?
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>>175015109
the fitting on tank mods is retarded throughout and causes all kinds of dumb

>cruisers fitting xl boosters and large shield transfers and shit because the cpu progression between ship sizes is nothing
>battleship armor rep fitting = 4x battleship plate fitting, frigate rep fitting = 1/2x frigate plate fitting
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>>175015489
xlasbs are fine
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>>175015485
it's just me and you making these posts

so no
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>spend all day doing sister of lel arc
>melt through everything
>dagan shit

what the fuck

he just sits there and just heals more than I can dps ree
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They gotta fix capital ancil repper build cost

shield is almost a billion

armor is like 200-300m
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>>175016351
dude what? you can't get more than 150dps on him?
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>>175016580
no im some alpha clone

I have like 120 dps
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>>175016641
bummer, ask someone in local for help
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>>175016641
Get the short range high damage variation of turret for your faction, get the high damage ammo and pilot a destroyer, you can get 200dps like that as an alpha
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>>175016436
Wat? The build cost is of CAAR is like 30M.
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>>175017149
Theres something wrong. I remember people complaining that capital ancil shield and armor boosters were way out of wack for build costs for some reason

someone brought it up at fanfest too
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>>175017429
The mats are the same. It's just rarity price.
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>>175017149
for some reason CASB are 710m and CAAR are 195m

I'm surprised the prices haven't just flat out dropped
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>>175017567
can you buy the CAAR and CASB BPO?
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>>175017709
No, relic/data sites drop only like other ancills
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>>175017574
it's because lazy fucks don't run data sites and don't sell the BPCs you find. there are people that just trash them because they don't have a straight Isk value and the local buyback jew doesn't buy them.
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>>175018003
>it's because lazy fucks don't run data sites
Because the overall isk you get from those is pretty bad.
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>>175018147
5 runs times 30m isk in materials = 150m

each CASB is selling for 710m thats over 3500m
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>>175018212
You need cap construction to build it.
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>>175018271
so? its an easy skill
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>>175018147
>Because the overall isk you get from those is pretty bad.
this is some 2014 meme people keep repeating. when was the last time you ran data sites?
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>>175018374
A month ago. 11m average, only ran them because I had them half scanned.
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>>175018374
relic sites still net you more isk on average.
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>>175016815
I aint sharing shit with nobody fug everyone else
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>>175018374
Not him but the last WH pirate data site I ran gave me a grand total of 5m. And this was just a few weeks ago.
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>>175018371
>everyone has adv industry V
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>>175019237
go make an alt and train it up

sell it to a local faggot for what its estimated value is on contracts
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>>175019674
I have, but some random noobs doing data/relics most likey don't.
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>>175020027
yeah, and they don't sell the BPCs either
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CAAR is so cheap because its only use is ironic solo moros. CASBs are way more versatile and are actually good.
>>
Anyone else here fly covops, stealth bombers and force recons?
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>>175020803
no, i'm not a cuck
>>
>>175021087
If anything, you're the cuck, because covops cloaks let you chose when and where you fight, while ships without cloaks get cucked if they run into a superior enemy.
>>
>>175020803
I use recons sometimes, why?
>>
make a big expensive bubble that can be anchored anywhere in system and drags every ship there
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white stag SHIT bag at it again
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>being this asshurt
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fit a 10MN AB to Reaper

y/n
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gib plex pls I only need 1
>>
>>175025584
ign?
>>
I am new

Can I fit multiple engines of the same kind on the same ship? (why not?) I want speed
>>
>>175026615
Yes, but you can activate only one.
>>
Why is exploration so fun?
>>
>>175026615
>why not?
because people abused stacking microwarpdrives to fly 8km/s kestrels with cruise missile launchers
>>
rate my alpha que
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>>175026928
>>175027151
alright, thanks!

multiple mining lasers is fine though?
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>>175027879
yea m8

double mining laser that venture up b
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>>175027969
w i s d o m
>>
I've tried my hand at mining, using a fucking Reaper. I'm just exploring, mining, and learning the game. I want something that is fast, with a low sig. A low cargo isn't that much of an issue since I'm looking for pricy nullsec rocks

frigate suggestion? is a Rifter a bad idea?
>>
>>175030523
Rifter is the worst frigate in the game
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>>175030794
nerfed to hell?
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>>175030961
I heard it was good like 5 years ago
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>>175030523
Rifter can do anything ANYTHING, but if you want speed you could try a Slasher. There are purpose-made ORE frigates for exactly what you're describing, I forget their names but they're based on the Venture hull. I wouldn't worry about it too much if you're just figuring out the game, fly what you like the look and fit of.

>>175030794
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>>175030523
>A low cargo isn't that much of an issue since I'm looking for pricy nullsec rocks
I've poured a lot of autism into this and believe me, mineral values per m^3 don't raise very much from Veldspar to Spodumain. You're best off mining Scordite or Jaspet if you're feeling risky. Remember that mining lasers work in M^3 of material per cycle, so if the ratio of weight to value per unit isn't higher, you're making less money mining other minerals.
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new player here: caldari? gallente? does it matter?
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>>175031584
Unless you're diving into the game with a set plan of profession and ship type in mind, not really. You're only saving a couple hours of training to pilot another faction's ships.
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>>175031584
You can train any race's ships, your starting race only locks your appearance, where you start, and what you start with. Once you start playing it doesn't really matter.
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>>175031584
Only matters if you're going to be an alpha for a while.
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>>175030523
If you wana be a ninja and get the big bucks mining grab a gas harvester and start doing wormholes. The gases in there are worth more in 2 minutes than a belt is worth in an hour.
>>175031257
The prospect is the T2 and comes with a covops cloak. Needs omega but it's a great huffer. Twice the ore hold of a venture.
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>>175031257
Thanks for the tips.

I looked it up here https://eveinfo.net/wiki/ind~1611.htm and they don't seem to like it, but the site seems pretty combat-oriented.

>>175031342
Oh, right. There's a isk/m3 issue, too. Didn't think about that, but I noticed that less of the expensive minerals fit in the cargo...

Currently running back and forth to a Pristine Jaspet asteroid in the same system as the market... Just averaging about 20K per run, haha. I just have a couple 100K in total.

What would be the best thing for me to do to improve?
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>>175032307
What would be the best thing for me to do to improve?
Get a Venture immediately. You should be able to get one from doing the mining career path. You get space for 2 mining lasers, both of which I believe have a 100% increase in yield because the Venture is a mining ship, and the ship has a dedicated 5000 m^3 ore storage bin so you can stay out in the field longer. After that you should think about getting the skills to fit Miner II's on your Venture, and research drone skills so you can either get 2 combat drones to defend you from rats or 2 mining drones to etch out a little extra profit.

Then start looking into more exciting careers to get into and fund it from whatever you make learning the ropes mining.
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GET OUT FUCKING THRASHERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>175032509
I have found one that I can afford 4 jumps away. I'll get that one and try it out. I'll probably follow the rest of your advice, too.. I realized recently that mining is unexpectedly fun

Thanks, I appreciate it
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Is Minmatar faction warfare even still a thing? The control map tells me it's a totally one-sided flop but I miss playing in it.
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>>175034026
Gallente/Caldari FW is much more active than Amarr/Min.
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>Solo Raitaru or Astrahus in C2
gud idea?
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>>175032103
This. WH/Lowsec gas huffing is worth some serious fucking money for an alpha. Not as much as exploration in Providence/Catch/Stain/Esoteria/Paragon Soul, but still a shitload (for an alpha).
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>Not as much as exploration in Providence
Wait what? Providence is worthwhile for something?
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>>175034508
what for?
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>>175035490
solo pvp base

I want to fly cheap shit into my neighbors and maybe make some friends, but also figure out wormholes and citadels
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>>175035721
>I want to fly cheap shit into my neighbors and maybe make some friends
you realize that your neighbors change with every new wormhole spawn, right? also, virtually everyone you run into will try to kill you or assume you are trying to kill them. you're not going to make any friends in j-space
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>>175036061
>you realize that your neighbors change with every new wormhole spawn, right?

that's the idea, fresh content.

the other option is simply joining a WH corp, but how many of them are going to take some dude with 5 accounts who hasn't played in several years?
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>>175035346
All the regions with Sansha rats/sites have really good relic sites, because they drop stacks of Intact Armour Plates.
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>>175032103
>>175034921
Cool. How to find the wormholes? Don't they just appear randomly?
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>>175036350
>how many of them are going to take some dude with 5 accounts who hasn't played in several years?
if you're not a douche bag, have a decent attitude and want to learn, and can scan holes, probably more than you would think.
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>>175032509
Thanks again. Bought the Venture, went out and only filled the cargo partially, but still made a nice profit of 400K for this run. Gonna get some better gear now.
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>>175037426
Nice work. You should look into finding a newbie-friendly mining corporation to join. They'll be able to get you the help you need better than this thread.
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>>175036515
More or less. You check the probe window which is just across from the dscan. If there's cosmic signatures drop some probes and scan it down and warp to it. BE SURE TO BOOKMARK BOTH SIDES OF THE HOLE. Once inside scan for gas anoms. Check the anom with this for which is the more dank gas and how much the rats will rape you. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml# The rats will spawn about 15-20 minutes in so if you want you can go to the expensive ones and then just peace out to the next one once you're done.
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>>175036515
Yes, but they're stupidly common everywhere but nullsec

How to gas huff in a Venture:

Equip 2 gas harvesters and a scan probe launcher in highs, shield tank + prop mod + relic analyser (nullsec pirate sites appear in C1-3, and they're profitable) in mid, and warp core stabs in lows.

Scan down a hole, go through it, check the system number on ellatha and zkillboard for class, effects, and whether people have died there recently. If there are any kills there in the last 24 hrs, GTFO. Otherwise, bookmark it and move to a celestial. While in WH, always spam DScan, and GTFO if any other ships show up. Once you're sure there's no-one in dscan range, launch probes and check for sites. Only huff sites for 15-20 minutes, sleepers show up after that amount of time, and they will kill you. Also, don't visit Ordinary Perimeter Reservoirs, they have sentry guns that will alpha strike you, and don't visit relic sites that don't have Sansha, Guristas, Rogue Drone, Serpentis, Angel or Blood Raider somewhere in the name, because sleeper relic sites are guarded.
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how much isk do I need to hire someone to kill someone else
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>>175038332
I'll do it for free.
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>>175038332
I'll do it for free.
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>>175038884
>>175038907
>inb4 he wants you to kill Chribba's Veldnaught
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>>175038884
>>175038907
What the fuck, are you me?
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insurance y/n

I always keep enough cash at hand to be able to buy at least one new ship exactly like my main anyways
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>"Anon, why did you give this out-of-corp person 100mil?"
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>>175040054
insurance is a scam

never get insurance even if you are going to run head first into null naked
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>>175040054
only get insurance on t2 hulls, especially when you're running really blingy mods
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>>175040054
It's only worth insuring ships you expect to get blown up during the policy time.
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>>175040054
Depends. T1, definitely, T2/Faction, don't do it, the payout is pathetically small.
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>>175041278
>>175041060
>>175040379
>all this misinformation
you guys are fucking shitty people.
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>>175040373
Join Horde, you API cuck
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Is there anything comfier than roaming FW space in a T1 frigate calling out pussys?
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>>175041060
So i shouldnt insure my garmur with high grade pod?
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>>175041621
yeah, not being a literal mouth-breathing, slobbering retard is far more comfy
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>>175041747
what if im doing it /ironically/ to bait people into fights?
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>>175041861
Ironic mouth-breathing slobbering retards are still mouth-breathing slobbering retards
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>>175041738
>So i shouldnt insure my garmur with high grade pod?

No. You should biomass yourself for flying that cancer.
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>>175042148
link lossmail
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>>175042203
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61796428/
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>>175032103
>The gases in there are worth more in 2 minutes than a belt is worth in an hour.

soo how much can you make of a gas run??
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>>175044048
30x more than a belt
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>>175044048
I ninjahuff in an endurance a lot, doing all the scanning in the same ship and refitting with a mobile depot. Spend about an hour most times, find 3-4 sites, come back with ~25m. That's assuming I can't find and core/instrumental. If i can, closer to 65m.
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>>175041605
Not unless they have some super safe carrier-only ratting system
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>>175044740
>25-65m an hour
you might as well be hisec mining
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>>175044867
Ice, maybe. Often I'll also find combat/data/relic sites that I come back and mine later.
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>>175044867
>25-65m an hour mining scordite

okay
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>>175045337
>what are orca alts and exhumers?
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>>175046314
So you're telling me you can make as much dualboxing with two ships that each take two months+ to train as you can with a single T1 mining frigate.

Sounds good.
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>>175046586
>two months
>a long time
>he'd rather work hard to scan down holes, constnatly pounding d-scan to not get his egg hole ravaged by bored wormhole residents to make his pittance than spend literally just two months to make more isk with way less risk and effort
really making me think
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>>175047013

I've made over 5.5b so far this month with exploration. Not in WH but in my alliance's space.
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>>175047013
I'm the prospect guy. I don't huff gas for profit. I do it for fun. Somebody asked how much money it makes and the answer is "more than mining in highsec with equivalent investment."
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>>175047013
And he can use the time he's not spending to train mining skills on training into being able to run WH combat sites, which are worth shittons of money.
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>proposing daytrip ratting as a reliable way to do anything but feed wormhole corps expensive ships
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>6m from a Sansha relic site
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>xhe can't stay safe in T3C cancer
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>>175048069
>100m+ from a sansha site
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>>175048445
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>No faction spawns today
>No escalations today
>Still no officer spawn
>Get a Dreadnaught spawn for my trouble
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>>174973163
HOW?
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Is jumping around lowsec belts looking for Mordus and Clone Soldier spawns still profitable? What should I do it in if I can't fly T3 anything yet?
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>>175049487
machariel
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>>175049904
You better be memeing me.
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>>174929081
EVE is simply not fun as a new player. If I could reasonably earn enough for skill injectors it wouldn't be so bad
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>>175001317
Aside from the alliance part you may want to check out PN4. Its a small gang PvP corp based out of Providence. You don't have to deal with NRDS outside of Providence and you get to fight all the big local alliances and make streamers rage when we shit on them.
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>>175050480
join brand newbros and do exploration/salvaging
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>>175051850
I have done both, awful isk/hour. It is like it is geared to get new members to buy PLEX because it is unreasonable to get your character trained from grinding alone
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>Battle venture
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>>175052007
salvaging after carrier ratters is 25 hours to plex or 12 for an injector
exploration is hit and miss but you'll still end up with a few hundred mil in loot for an afternoon of work in esoteria or paragon soul
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>>175050480
this is true. i didn't have fun in eve until i had enough SP to rat for a couple months to inject shit i wanted to fly. injectors get memed on but seriously, use injectors. they dramatically shorten the time it takes to get you on your feet and on slightly more level ground with the rest of eve. you'll still not have a fucking clue what you're doing, but not knowing what you're doing will be that much less punishing.
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>tfw joined corp
>moved all my alts into nullsec
>realied i have nothing to do on alts since they have gay SP
>only thing i can think of is to train rorq for them
>3 months just for rorq with no tank or mining
>training them for VNI is shit since actively killing frigs makes it not really afk farm
>don't know how to fit afk dominix
What do
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Navitas
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>pve
>What do

Kys
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do you think the inside of gallente ships smell like cum or scented candles
maybe both?
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How do I efficiently kill serpentis dreads in a carrier?
How do I bug them, etc.
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>needing to use exploits to rat
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>>175060414
I constantly see people say that "dread can be easily soloed in t2 carrier" but im not sure about that andi only get carrier spawns, which people say can't be soloed unless blinged carrier or dread...Some people say you just "snipe" them with carriers, others say "just have to reaload fighters really fast". I dunno anon...
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>unironically flying carriers
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>>175062635
Well super costs times more.
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>unironically being poor
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>monthly economic report is out
to intelligent to understand
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>I'm rich because I grind all day

Kys
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>unironically thinking people get rich by grinding
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Real men fly 800mm plate.
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>>175064346
>not 3200
nigga pls
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>>175064346
>Not activate tanking
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>not honor tanking
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>>175063463
>>175063560
Well how do they become money rich.
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Neurotypical players do it by being good at the game
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>>175064346
I guess real men die a lot and have shitty killboards
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>>175060604
>it's an exploit to use a carrier
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I am new new new, I like mining and scanning. What do
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>>175067372
No you don't.
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doing ore runs with a Venture. how are these fittings?

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Venture/Fittings

will the salvager actually be useful? what could I put there instead?

should I prefer the AB over a shield extender, to make quick getaways?

should I use shield extenders at all, if I want to keep my already low sig down?

I can't find the F85 anywhere. is it still around?

is the suggested rigging in Basic mining with strong tank okay?

I just want to a) disincentivize ganking, and b) survive gank attempts
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>>175067827
Oh, but its fun
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EVERYTHING IS A WORMHOLE
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>>175067964
You aren't going to survive a gank in a venture no matter your fit. Small rats you kill with your drones
That said, I once escaped an incompetent wh gank gas huffing due to the innate extra warp core strength on the venture. Would not have survived had I not fitted a MedSE
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>>175068660
huh, thanks. I guess I'll just focus on maximizing my yield then. Do you think survey scanners are worth it?
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>fit 2 wcs
>get scrammed into warp
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>>175069005
Just Max tank the mids and Max yield the lows

Unless you live in the same place you're gonna gas, you don't care about the gas amount remainder, and the cycles are fast, so survey not needed.

Prop you might want to consider, the only thing that can tackle a venture without being double scram meme fits are dictors, but most dictors can outrun you, so prop is meh imo.
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>>175069005
You'll lose some time "overmining" rocks that have less ore than a full laser cycle but on a venture that hardly matters.
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>>175069281
Cheers
Is it cost-effective though to use shield extenders on a 40 sig vessel, since you can probably evade a lot of damage if you keep it low?
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>>175069870
Only one way to find out Anon
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>highest hobgoblin seller in region is going for 4k
>highest buyer is 2k

so If I set a buy order to buy a 1misk worth at 2.000.01 isk and then resell for 3.999.99 isk, am I gonna double my money?
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>>175070450
you figured out station trading anon.

Except you forgot that there needs to be someone who sells you hobgoblin, someone who buys it and other traders who will undercut you.
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>>175070450
Technically yes, but you would have to buy/sell 500 of them and make sure both of your orders stay on top.

But you would literally earn more isk with afk mining in a venture in highsec.
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>>174930031
Is there a replacement for that in-game browser addon that shows the fleet's fittings?

/eog/, how do you feel about an EVE with solo sustainable gameplay, like access to complete drug processes and other gameplay mechanics. The draw is that it should be easier for groups to mine/moon for anything they would use, but what say?

If everybody had T3s, wouldn't it come more likely that nobody would?

(>>174978153)
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>>174930985
>tfw no rocket Amarr frigate
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>>175072026
>Malediction
>Vengeance
>Purifier (really, really big rockets)
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>>175072026
The Inquisitor used to be one.
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>fit double scrams on gank cat
>fly to 0.5
>use cloaky alt to provide warp ins for gank

>dank Venture kills
>many salty newbros
>2 of them buy useless permits and put me 15 mil up after losing that many gank cats

>the rest get super salty and start handing out threats
>content to post in corp chat

Reminder that being a CODE independant agent is the comfy life.
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>spot some venture
>warp to him, jam web, light cyno
>drop supers
>finally manage to kill venture
>post killmail in corp, alliance, intel, reddit.
>fantasize about how you just destroyed life of solo miner and how they are quitting eve over this kill
>finally, post it on 4chan
How can ventrue miners even recover?
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>>175073548
I don't understand. Sure you kill some 500.000 isk ships and make some carebears angry but where exactly is the fun in that?
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>>175073880
It's the same reason people in wow highlevel people would come to lowlevel locations and gank lowlvls over and over - they find "fun" in killing someone who has no chance to retaliate and most of the time because they can't kill anyone else (this is also why those gankers died immideatly when someone of the same level came to kill them).
Also eve find of promotes that with it's killmails and killboards, some people just smartbomb lowsec gates for hours every day because it stacks killboard score and they feel better.
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>>175073805
>quitting eve over this kill
I hope so

>>175073880
>make some carebeard angry
Pretty much this desu, makes my penis harder than fucking around looking for gud fights anywhere, and gives some sodium to enjoy at the same time.

>>175074239
Tell me where the neckbeard touched you.
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I started playing again 3-4 days ago, thought I'd check to see if there was a /vg/ corporation... is there?
I started playing in 2012, got around 130 hours then quit... So I'm still a complete nub, but that new tutorial helped out so much I actually know how to travel around kinda.
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>>175049487
Clone soldiers die unironically to trashers except the 0,2 one. He webs avoid him. Use vexor for ezmode or any high damage boat.. Have refit for kin/therm tank when you meet the mordu battleship.
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>>175074434
show me your killboard and I'll show you
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OwO what's this?
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>>175075320
>n-k4q0
>SoCT sov
More trash ships
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>>175072293
T1 obviously.
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>>175073548
Being CODE is like being nigger in primary school. You can beat all the kids, but thats because you are 25yo
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>>175071894
The only thing required to improve solo gameplay is removing SP. This veterancy system is awful for gameplay, reduces the amount of content available by limiting how much good shit that can be at any single time, like the amount of pilots that can field capitals against Goons, limiting the amount of good corps.
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>>175076726
reducing*

100M ISK to the best infographic displaying how much is actually reduced by SP.
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>>175076150
>being pol
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>>175052014
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61841413/
wew
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I can autopilot through everything as long as the lowest sec I go through is at most .5 amirite
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>>175076869
>not believing in white genocide
>getting offended over a word
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>>175076726
>like the amount of pilots that can field capitals against Goons
wat
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>>175077235
It's just some imagery.
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>white stag SHIT bag at it again
now they're losing to poses
https://zkillboard.com/related/31001521/201704260200/
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>>175077861
That's ShekelSquad, not White Stag. Can't you read?
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>>175078137
>he doesn't know about white stag alt corps
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>>175077861
shekelsquad is a part of shitbag?
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>>175078189
almost every C4 corp is part of shit bag now
they are becoming mid-high class HKLHPL now
they have grown exponentially in the last 3 months, they are top 5 WH alliances now
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>>175078503
as long as they stay in their stinking wormholes I don't care
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>>175078503
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>>175078503
What on earth are you talking about?
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>>175078636
they are preparing to take over certain nullsec systems, they've been building caps in a C5
We seeded the C5 in preparation to abort the caps but that was before they had 2 times their members in their white stag coalition, now my corp can't stop them
they are going to go from 5+- confirmed caps to over 20 in less than a month and we're fairly sure they have at least 3 super and titan, plus HK backup
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>>175078846
>tinfoil
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>>175078846
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>>175078953
>>175078971
I fucking wish, they have my alliance in their crosshairs and we're actually scared of an eviction
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>>175079041
I believe you. What corp are you in? I'll come and help
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>>175079170
pos party
any kind of help would be appreciated
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>pos party
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r/dog plate rep beam omen roam when
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>r
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>>175078503
>they are top 5 WH alliances now
not according to ezuki
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>>175078503
but do they have what it takes to kill HK?
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is there some kind of ECM way to prevent someone from scanning your cargo?

>t. wannabe courier of valuable goods
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>>175085015
blockade runner
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>>175085015
Blockade runners.
Cloaking devices.
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>tfw everyone only talks about combat
>tfw its boring as shit
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>>175085290
>being too dumb to appreciate it
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>>175085290
It's only boring for f1 mashers in a typical blob warfare battle.
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>>175085015
double wrapping. you should minimize risk in other ways though, if someone wants to gank you you're dead and double wrapping makes it seem like you're hauling insane amounts of isk
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What if we could set priority for drone AI? If you are jammed and you have set ewar ships as high priority in the filter the drones would auto aggro just the griffin.
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>>175085458
what if they just fixed ecm instead
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>>175085504
It's insane that CCP have removed offgrid links but didn't do shit about ecm.
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>>175085856
I think they think everyone's still buying their stupid excuse that it's "too hard" to think up a new non-ridiculous effect for ecm, after 10 years of it being broken
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>>175079041
>>175079290
if only this were real
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>3 supers
>over 20 caps
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>>175086476
Are we talking about small gangs?
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>>175086673
>>175078846
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>>175086751
>>175086476
So basically they're unstoppable?
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>>175086873
its a meme
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>>175085106
>>175085109
awesome. thank you.
is there any way for them to be detected when cloak is installed? only smartbombs can hit them and what else?

>>175085452
never heard of the term. very useful, thank you.

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so based off the above, would cloaked blockade runner with double-wrapped container work best?
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>>175086985
>cloaked blockade runner with double-wrapped container
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>>175087203
yes, hello, this is new
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>>175086985
in high sec most people use a DST or a brick tanked T3C. 1 sec align time hecate is another option. as long as you're using insta undock and dock bookmarks either should be pretty safe.
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>>175086985
why would you double wrap in a ship that cant be cargo scanned?
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Do any of you guys regularly buy skill injectors?
I tend to just marathon ratting enough liquid isk for plex then sell off loot for whatever other things I buy throughout the month. I'm considering adding a skill injector or two to my monthly expenses.
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>>175087538
>buying injectors when you have 140m sp
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>>175087732
>Above 80m you get 150k per injector which is about 2 days worth of sp
ouch
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>>175085362
>haha ur dumb coz u dnt enjoy things i do faggot haha
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>>175087337
I didn't know they can't be cargo scanned whatsoever. that's cool.

>>175087328
thanks for the tips
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>>175088320
>150k per injector which is about 2 days worth of sp
maybe remapped and +5s all the way cus thats 3150 sp/h
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>>175088629
>It's just some guys pressing buttons lol, back to ratting I'm so smart
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>Jove
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>3 supers
>20 caps
>unstoppable
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>mfw a line member thinks their opinion matters
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>>175087203
Why double wrap it? Nobody can see in a viator anyway. You'll get killed just on the chance you might have something.
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>not prorator
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>tfw you find an empty gold magnate in space but you can't fly it because you never trained the amarr frigate skill because /eog/ told you amarr frigates were bad

Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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yeah I make shit up all the time
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navitas
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>jove
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Are Push Industries a meme?
I want to work my way into becoming a hauler that is blue with all mayor corps because they need suppliers
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>>175099192
i used to know a guy who worked for red frog/black frog. he was running contracts all day with 4 accounts but he didn't make great Isk considering the hours he put in

if you're doing contracts anyway then yeah, join them
>>
>push
>blue with all major corps
Do your research before you apply for a shit reason.
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>shuttles don't have slots to increase their speed and AU speed

why
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>>175100936
shuttle cap is amarr-tier for some reason too
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Anyone buy ISK RMT? Whats the chance of me getting banned for buying a few billion?
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>>175102279
just buy plex
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>>175102279
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>>175102516
>>175102516
Why? Plex for me is like $23 and I can get 3 billion for that much
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:)
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>>175102279
just rmt famalam tell us how it goes
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>>175102804
Because it's 100% safe
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o7
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make up a roaming fleet comp for me
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3 supers and about 20 caps
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>xhe doesn't fly the best t1 battleship
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>>175104357
hi
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>>175104357
>>175105756
>
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>>175105756
>>175106837
>applying my two heavy neuts :^D
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>Heavy neuts
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61855092/

>stainwagon is bad lol we took all ur space
[Spoiler]LOL[/spoiler]
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>>175107346
how and why?
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>>175107346
>phoons and assorted small shit
Literally how
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FUCKING WHITE STAG SHIT BAG JUST DDED MY CARRIER
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>>175107346
>Vengeance in the ship hangar
Why?
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>>175107542
>>175107632
>not being in sniper cruise phoons

Typhoons are best t1 battleship in the game. Stainwagon phoon doctrine is legit
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>>175107778
nope
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>>175108023
No way you die just to that. Did he sd?
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>>175107778
They DD'd my orca last week!
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r8 my doctrine https://zkillboard.com/kill/61855144/
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>Sitting in station for an hour
>Undock my carrier to do some ratting
>Warp to a site
>There's already soneone running it
>For at least the last hour they haven't been posting the sites they're doing in the designated ratting channel designed to prevent this exact situation
>>
>i'm a shitter who can't use dscan
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>>175108118
>decide to quit EVE
>don't RMT your shit
>don't go out with a bang
>don't try to drive by DD something
>jump into stainwagon staging in your Levi
>log off on a gate
>[21:36:37] Kommodore SixtyFour > all mods are offline :D
>[21:36:44] Kommodore SixtyFour > half shield is down :D
>[21:36:47] Kommodore SixtyFour > bb gys
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>>175108410
what a faggot
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>>175108254
typical goon risk averse/10
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>test
>goons
>>
So if I made an account using someones refferal link, and then reffered a friend and he subbed so i got my sub for free too
Does my original refferant get anything?
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>>175109475
if you subbed or used a plex, yes
if you're alpha while your friend subs or uses a plex you don't get anything, you need to be omega to get the 30d gametime
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>>175109921
Nope, i was alpha and it shifted me to omega for 30 days when i redeemed my reward, but i didnt get the option to pick plex so that is the trade-off
However the guy who gave me his refferal is claiming that he didnt get anything so i'm curious if he is jewing me or if he doesnt get a reward up until i sub with money/use plex
Perhaps the buddy subscription doesnt count?
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>be alpha
>spend 80% of my isk to buy a cruiser to finish the final sister arc mission
>didn't have medium turret researched
>don't have the money to buy 5 medium turrets
>prob don't have the money to buy the rest of the fit for the other slots

fuggin lel great game :-D 10/10
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>>175110548
yeah, only subbing or using a plex works. i thought you had to plex alpha accounts to receive rewards though, good to know.

>>175110617
you're supposed to use a destroyer with close range high damage weapons
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>>175110617
It is entirely your fault that you tried to do is so hopelessly unprepared and for training irrelevant skills.
Eve isn't as idiotproof as most other mmos where its impossible not to advance trough levels
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>>175110617
>Put all your eggs in one basket
>Fucked up and didn't adequately prepare yourself
You have only yourself to blame.
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>>175110820
I expect that the buddy system will be rewamped with the upcoming update
Otherwise people would be able to use their miniplexes to upgrade to omega, and somehow thwir recruiters would get the full 30month value from it? Seems dodgy
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>>175108291
>ratting channels pw protected due to an incident
>3 weeks later still pw
>everyone bumping into each other and nobody dscans
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>>175111013
You seem to misunderstand the upcoming PLEX change. You won't be able to use a small amount of PLEX to get less than a month of gametime, it will only be redeemable in month-long chunks.
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>>175111410
>le another pointless change.jpg
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>>175108410
>be idiot in test
>die stupidly in my titan to russians
>have to lie on 4chan and reddit
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>>175111617
The fact that it's replacing Aurum alone is enough to warrant it.
>>
There was literally nothing wrong with aur
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>>175111617
>being able to buy monocles with isk
>le pointless

now I can pay people to erp without having to bulk add a shit ton of other fetishes I don't care for to get my plex worth
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>>175112381
Being able to buy things in the store with PLEX instead of Aurum is a nice quality of life change and simplification. Having to convert to Aurum is a pointless obfuscation.
>>
should I leave high sec to go rat or to explore

I only have like 500k sp
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So do I have to apply through HK to get onto Oruze's titan program now?
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>>175112994
Join a nullblob if you want easy mode exploration
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fuck off kiwinigger
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>>175107346
Why are clappers so bad at EVE?
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What ship can I literally go AFK on and still win fights?
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>>175115609
none of them?
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>>175115609
ishtar, vni maybe gila and snake
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>>175115609
Literally none. You have to actually play eve. This isnt oldschool runescape
>>
>>175115609
Titans, your alliance will flock to defend you and keep you alive so you don't actually have to do anything.
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>>175112994
it'll be about 30 omega days if you know exactly what to train before you can head off to go ratting in null in a vexor navy issue
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>>175116434
>30 day to train into shitfit VNI

With faction heavy drones and meta/t1 modules you can get by with around an 8 day train for 11mil ticks.
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>>175115609
Win what fights?

You can't AFK any ship and win
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>>175107346
Nice spoiler, newfag.
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>>175117828
>tfw no module that auto activates other modules
>tfw no built in programming language to write scripts to control entire fleets of ships in one single instance of eve
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>>175116072
No need to specify oldschool Runescape, it applies to the new one, too. There's literally a mode that uses your abilities for you.
>>
How's Rokh if I want to fit it with railguns? I'm new at EVE, and I really want to fly that someday, but I heard it's shit.
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>>175125801
fly whatever you want b

just build counter meta ships famalam. Run your shuttle into null and see what they pod you with then come back with the counter fit my child.
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>b
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>>175119976
>You will never get to play homeworld in EVE
FIX THIS!
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>just shipped a pair of epithals to null and set a PI skill queue
how often do you guys go from planet to planet picking shit up?
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>>175126729
Once a week if you're doing a simple extract-refine set up. If you're doing something production-heavy it can be as often as every 18 hours.
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>>175126726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT6SAjIzPE0

no this is what ur getting deal with it
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oneiros
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>>175130576
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>>175130826
Why are you still posting on this board? Your subreddit not popular enough? No upvotes here you faggot.
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>>175130826
what the fuck is this
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>>175130826
I don't get it
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>>175131057
burn provi
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>mfw I cloaky camp provi daily
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assault frigates
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>>175133347
Ban anime
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Cruor
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I've been playing Eve for a long time. Specifically I've been PVP'ing in Eve for a long time. I've done lowsec piracy, FW, Wormholes, gangs, blobs, all kinds of Sov bullshit, I've flown Capitals, I've flown bait ships, I've flown pimp fits. I feel almost like the only reason I still do is because it's what I know to play. I got tired of not always having ships, modules and drones on hand so I started fiddling with production on a highsec PVE/grind alt. It's annoying that I had to get together an unfamiliar skill tree, and lately I spend more time just moving ships, drones, and ammo around to different regions looking for a good place to sell them than I do looking for fights.

I love it. I haven't had so much simple enjoyment out of Eve in a long time. Something is wrong with me, and I don't know if I want to fix it.
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>>175134670
is this pasta?
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???
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61855652/
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>>175139106
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>>175139106
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>>175139106
>shekel squad in charge of making fun of anything
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61851768/
https://zkillboard.com/related/31001521/201704260200/
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>'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
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I found an abandoned MTU in the middle of nowhere. Anyway i can scoop it up for profit or will it just expire after a few days?
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>>175141921
Blow it up and it might drop some of its contents.
>>
What if there were a burst module that decloaks all ships in a radius around the user?
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>>175143468
>>175143468
Fucks with bombers more than cloaky campers
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>>175143468
smartbomb?
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Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
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Templar I
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>>175126729
>9 pi alts
>one hour every day to reset extractors
>barely make enough to plex the 3 accounts
>>
You're doing it wrong.
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>>175148213
>>175148640
He was talking to you.
>>
punisher
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>>175148640
>>175149670
how much should i make per alt in nullsec?
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>Still no Seikai no Senki style Mobile Mine's they you can use to bombard off grid enemies you probe down
>The Mobile Mine is a modern multipurpose torpedo used in Mine Warfare. It can be used like traditional torpedo or as a mine or in both modes. The common mine incorporates an antimatter reactor which serves as warhead as well as propulsion. The antimatter supply serves as fuel for the plane space generator and as explosive. Equipped with these the mines can be used within plane space. The mines also incorporate sophisticated sensors, intelligent guidance as well as IFF (friend-or-foe identification). They are as large or larger than a normal shuttle. However, their velocity in plane space is higher than shuttles. Due to their size only cruisers or larger can have this type of weapon in their inventory.

CCP puts in command destroyer bullshit.. why not this?
>>
>why the fuck i can't be cap stable in VNI
>get ever cap skill to 4
>stii cant
>get fucking cap skills to 5
>cats
>fucking reeeeeeeeeeee
>realise i forgot fuel conservation
oh.

By the way how do i multibox.
>>
>mines
They already existed and were removed for good reason
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>>175152654
Yeah because we're not allowed to have any fun in this game.
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>>175130826
Providence shall burn
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>>175153723
There is no fun. We can't have anything interesting because players always devolve into cancer.
It'd be mines online
>>
>can't put your items in folders
>>
>containers
>>
>Have to buy folders
>folders have limits
>can't buy folders if you're not in npc space.
>>
>bitching about the unavailability of an item
>not profiting off that market void yourself

If it were as much of a problem as you suggest, someone would have done something about it, so you're probably overstating the need.
>>
>muh assault frig buffs

this is all a distraction to prevent ccp from fixing things that matter
>>
If i want to try and do some industry stuff how do i go about it? What is the easy thing to start?
Also, for example i open ishtar bpc...and i see some "ionic gay sonic" stuff, okay, it has BPO i need to buy and build, ok, it requieres some "polycarbonate plate" (i probably misremembering it) i click on it and...nothing. According to the game this product just appears out of thin air. How do i get them? Is it easy to get them?
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>>175155505
For someone new to industry you really shouldn't be getting into T2 ships, chucklefuck.

Start with something easy like T1 rigs.
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>>175152252
>cats
Not on my /dog/ there isnt
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>>175044830
There is no super safe system in the game, anon
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>>175155994
>le eve is so dangereous meme
Eve is only "dangereous" in highsec and null gates.
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>>175156182
>eve is dangerous in highsec

Now that's a meme
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>tfw no cluster
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>>175157070
>>
>0 players
Eve is dead
>>
>still having to reboot servers daily in 2017
Yes yes, muh legacy code boogeyman.
>>
>>175102279
Just send CCP screenshots, and they don't do shit to you. If it's PLEX though, you have to wait for them to clear it.
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>>175102279
Unless you're a tard who will tell everyone about it and\or you buy big amounts frequently then nothing will happen. Just like in any other mmo.
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>>175157659
Yeah, it's almost impossible to prove except if you do it every X times
>>
>>175119976
>tfw no AI fleet backup
>>
>tfw no drone loot for no reason at all
>>
Ban anime
>>
>>175158750
Be thankful you get bounties, back in my day they just dropped minerals.
>>
>>175158864
Yea i remember it...i kinda miss getting all rainbow coloured shit, it wouldn't be much of a hassle to loot them right now since we have MTU (but bounties are still better).
>>
So my corp friend just wanted to come blow you up, trying to extort miners in **** hey? Haha he's pretty new to eve.

Now I know hunting you is pointless as you just blew up a ship in .5 space. You either got raped by concord and/ or are hiding in the station or jumped to .4 space until your timer goes. So if I know all this why do I care to message you? Well I believe I have a proposal that will interest you.

First off the whole ten mil to mine undisturbed is a pretty funny joke. **** is a pirate system already, I could easily forward your pilot info with the promise of a 10 payment to whoever has the largest collection of your frozen corpses ensuring you wouldn't be very comfortable in ****. I just thought I would itterate that to you just incase you were actually being serious about the 10 mil to mine lol.
>>
So to the point, how would you like to be on the payroll? The deal is this, I am looking for a Wing Commander to expand on the pirate side of my operations who I will give specific targets in Balle to harrass. I will then pay you for your services by providing you with ships and free ammumition. I run two corps. One is this mining and manufacturing corp that I use to take over markets and supply the other. The other is a pirate corp that works in conjunction with the larger pirate corps in the area to facilitate the sales in the said markets we target Oviously the pirate corp is not a public corp.
As we expand so to do the services we are able to provide. Investment into the manufacturing corp is an option as well. Any investments are added to the total investments of the other members, the percentage of which is used to determine their share of the monthly proffits which they can reinvest or cash out. We expand our pirate operations in direct corolation with the growth of our markat expansions. This has proven to provide a stable isk income that is enough to provide everything a pirate needs. Currently the growth of investments are 80%. So for every 100 isk at the end of the month there is 180 isk.

If you are interested send me a reply. If you are just note you are required to have at least one alt without any "piratey" stains on their record to be able to invest.
If none of this interests you then thats fine you will recieve no attention from me. Do what you want in **** as it really only benefits me either way. As long as you leave my miners alone.

If you're not interested and continue to harras my miners then I look forward to swatting your little firgs/corvs whenever they enter the system. I currently can shit out one Gnosis a month if need be so I'm sure I will be able to trade you ship for ship until you run out of them.

Anyway fly safe lol.
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>lol.
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>still can't beat dagan

HOW DO I INCREASE MY DPS REE
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>>175160107
You only need 150 to beat dagan.

Turn off your microwarp drive when you are orbiting him at 500 or 1000.
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>>175160107
Get a dragoon with hobs, they made dagan deliverately high em resist to screw with amarr lasers
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Skill injectors are still robbery.
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>>175160043
This is a real mail I received after a gank.

This is the dangerous pirate corp https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98509355/
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>>175076846
200M.
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>>175160731
Tell him the mining permit is now 100m or you will gank him/his corp exclusively
>>
>>175160478
>mwd has -25% cap

lel didn't read this

dagan is ded
>>
>>175161062
Way ahead of you.

I think I am genuinely doing the right thing here, mining a month for 30 mil is what is killing this game.
>>
>>175160731
>OPSEC the mail post
>link their KB
Hi Saigon
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>>175162606
why would he opsec a throwaway alt you dumb nigger

he just pasted the body of the mail
>>
Vexor
Navy
yeee
>>
>>175164897
oneiros navy issue
>>
So if i want to jew FW with a ship built for easy escape
How should i fit it?
Alternatively what would be a combat capable fitting for a gallente alpha pilot
A catalyst? Thorax?
>>
>>175165618
Either nothing and just afk it with an unfit frigate

Or fit max warp core stabs and keep an eye on 1au dscan
>>
>>174930792
That would be so shitty. Rip solo pvp roaming
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>>175116072
Yeah because blobs take skill. KEK
>>
Word war weeb
>>
no reddit memes
>>
>>175169431
keep your filthy plebbit wars out of here, minmanigger
>>
>>175169610
You don't wanna burn provi?
>>
>>175169857
No, the question is:why would I want to burn provi?
>>
>>175166517
Don't i need to defend the point from npc ships?
And isnt using something bigger than a figste, like a cruiser, more profitable since i can acess the higher tier sites?
>>
I have some stupid miner that can fly expedition frigs and exhumers, is mining ice with him ok?
How do i go about it? Is ice even profitable? What ship is the best one for that? How do i find ice anyways? I only saw asteroid belts...
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>>175170567
Because jintaan is a fuckin weeb
>>
>>175171705
We're all weaboos here.
>>
>>175162606
Yeh, I'm back from the dead and still just as shit it seems.
>>
Is the Maulis navy issue a decent kiting dronefring for fw?
Or is it better for me to just use an algos or catalyst?
>>
>kiting

fag
>>
>>175176634
none of those are good at kiting
>>
>>175159985
>I currently can shit out one Gnosis a month if need be so I'm sure I will be able to trade you ship for ship until you run out of them.

that can't be real
>>
if new eden was a wormhole from earth aren't we all living in w-space?
>>
>>175179307
40million per month is an astonishing income
Dont be so mean to new players >:(
>>
>burning provi
You mean the shit that's happenning 24/7 for years?
>>
>>175179954
The way I understand Eve lore is, regular wormholes are just bridges to other systems, the wspace we know is a copy of new Eden or some shit the sleepers and/or talocan made and it's called Anoikis galaxy
>>
>>175179954
Earth is a meme
>>
how to use alts effectively?

I'm a newb miner and I'm sort of annoyed with other miners coming and mining the rock I'm already mining. I'd like to scare them off with some nice typical-ganking-ship.

can the other person find out that I'm that guy if I have the char on the same acc, or do I need another acc to keep it secret? just like keeping a low profile.

also what are your typical alts? one miner, one fighter, one scavenger, what?

is it worth having them all in the same system? how to even find the system that's the best for me? I just want to be left alone and as safe as possible.

/wall of questions
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>>175181816
1 scanner and 2 combat pilots

scanner can jew with me or boost if i need it
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>>175181816
>can the other person find out that I'm that guy if I have the char on the same acc
only if he has access to your full API key
>>
If someone wrote a capsuleer's name in a Death Note would they permanently die?
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oneiros
>>
what Corp do I join? I want to roam in combat BC's or really any ship for the matter
>>
twoiros
>>
someone put a 100K isk bounty on me

and who? but why? this acc is like 10 days old and I haven't PvPd anyone
>>
Is today a ganking holiday or something? Criminals all over hisec.
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threeiros
>>
noneiros
>>
is there any way to opt out of all chats completely? you still show up in local, don't you
>>
>>175185867
And I'm also wondering about how to get rid of it.
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>>175187638
Get killed until you've lost 500,000 in ship and destroyed modules. Then realize it's a waste of time and that bounties don't mean actually anything.
>>
>combat bc
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>>175185867
it doesn't matter at all.

When you die the people that killed you gets 20% of the value of the ship you died in up to the max value of the bounty pool which is basically nothing. The only people who place bounties unironically are carebears and fresh out of the tutorial noobs.
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>>175186527
No, yes.
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>join comfy mining corp
>they move my ships to their system for free
>not allowed to leave my assigned mining system
>directors check API to see if you've kept ore for yourself instead of selling it to the buyback program
>need to mine more than 50mil worth of ore per week or pay corp fee
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>>175188626
>carebears

lel this grandpa
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>>175189531
>comfy
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>>175189531
What happens if you don't pay the corp fee?
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>>175190538
they'll kick me and keep all my stuff locked in their station
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>>175188197
thank you

>>175188626
great. I considered putting a 100x higher bounty on the guy and ask him to remove my bounty, but I guess it's nothing to bother with
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>>175190623
>comfy
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>>175189531
Why do idiots still fall for the mining corp meme?
>>
>>175171452
if you defend there is only friendly npc ships

If you offensive plex then yes you need to be able to kill the npc.

Frigates can enter any site and get paid just as much on completion.
>>
>>175190623
Man seriously just black frog your shit out of there or something and cut your losses. You're a slave to some power tripping neckbeards who profit off your free time being wasted
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>>175190623
Seduce the CEO, become his internet girlfriend and then steal everything.
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>>175190623
that's the spiciest thing i've read in a while. thanks anon.
>>
>soon we'll have to mine moon mineral for our ceos on top of paying their poco tax and weekly fee with locally inflated market modules and ships.
>>
>tfw no ceo (female)
>>
if you live in null why not just haul through wormholes? there's nothing that says you absolutely must get hard jewed by your carebear kike overlords
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>>175182080
>if he has access to your full API key

is this possible for them to get somehow? haven't used them.

>>175189183
I guess cloak doesn't change this huh?
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>>175195173
>is this possible for them to get somehow? haven't used them.

It's not possible for someone to get your full API unless 1) you gave away your full API to that person or 2) someone that you gave your full API to, shares it with that person.

>I guess cloak doesn't change this huh?

Local has nothing to do with your ship and everything to do with what system you are in. You won't show up in the player list in a wormhole as long as you don't talk in local, that's the only exception.
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>academy is buying tritanium at double the average cost that anyone is selling it
>0.3
>24 ships destroyed in last hour

is it a trap :(

im just going to make the trip with just a pod to check.
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>>175195821
It's definitely a trap you nerd. 24 ships? Are you stupid?
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>>175196174
>tfw

joke is on them I was in my pod
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>>175196427
Did you died?
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>c5
just
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>>175196628
ded af tbhfamalam

where is my personal army. /vg/ pls avenge me it's only like 3 cruisers. Destroy them pls ok ty.
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What to do with my newb mining ship?

Currently mining ore in lowsec/highsec, and been into a local WH twice for some Arkonor. I want increase my rare-ore-extraction capabilities, and I want to be able to huff WH gas.

Fit:

>High
2x EP-S Gaussian Scoped Mining Laser
Core Probe Launcher I

>Mid
1Mn Monoprop Enduring Afterburner
Medium Shield Extender I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

>Low
IFFA Compact Damage Control

>Rig
2x Small Defense Core Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

>Drones
2x Hobgoblin I

Should I just remove most of the "valuble" stuff from it, so that all I have to lose on it is the Venture, the lasers, and the Ore? It's worth so much more now, especially with the IFFA.

Long-term goals:
- Get Omega
- Huff WH gas in a Venture or Prospect.

Just been playing for a few days.
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>>175197656
>Long-term goals:
>- Huff WH gas
I begun to do that after a week or so. If you want to do that without worrying about sleepers just join a WH corp with a C3 static at least.
>>
>>175197931
Oh. What kind of mining did you do to pay for the skillbook? I only have like 4M right now and the Gas Harvesting skillbooks are like 24M
>>
>>175198448
The corp gave me a pack of skillbooks, like any non-shit corp. If they dont give you the skillbooks they should give you 50m at least so you can buy them yourself. I just explored before joining them.
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>>175199759
Cool. I've read about that exploring can be really profitable. Considering it. I've been down some wormholes in high-sec and seen absolutely no one there at all. Thought there would be more people.
>>
Yo Kevin
>>
I'm not gonna make a new thread because I got bullied for using my ref link
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>ref link
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Kys kev
>>
Zira Zira
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>Discord
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siegmund
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>>175199980
>I've read about that exploring can be really profitable
With alpha skills and knowledge it can be a bit slow but its still more profitable than other activities.

>I've been down some wormholes in high-sec and seen absolutely no one there at all
Those are mostly explored with some cloaky campers here and there.
>>
REPORTAN ref link spammers to
- 4chan for spamming
- eve for spamming

b&
>>
Navitas
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>>175201052
>Those are mostly explored with some cloaky campers here and there.
this. for the love of god don't start your wormhole exploration in hisec, especially near any major trade hub. pick a quiet lowsec to venture into and then go for however long you feel like before starting to scan down entrances. any sites in hisec-connected wormholes stand a good chance of being camped by either wormhole residents or other hisec divers who want to take advantage of lazy/inept explorers who didn't get far enough away from jita before jumping in
>>
new thread
where
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>>175203398
im right behind u
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>>175203398
Tama, top belt.

Honarabru 1v1 to see who posts it.
>>
>Tama
>not Aeschee
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Thalia
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>>175207856
>>175207856
>>175207856
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