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Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #743 - Chao Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
Archie to Send Update About the Comic to Subscribers Later in April
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/19/sonic-291-listed-as-cancelled-email-going-to-subscribers-about-sonic-comics-later-in-april/

Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania Nintendo Direct Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7bsS2mWDuw

Sonic Mania and Forces Famitsu Article
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/12/famitsu-has-released-new-information-on-sonic-mania-forces-iizuka-interview/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/04/morio-kishimoto-is-directing-sonic-forces-no-boom-sonic-will-be-at-e3/

Sonic Runners Adventure Leaked Rumor
https://www.sonicretro.org/2017/04/sonic-runners-adventure-leaked/

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ is making a game! Modelers, Designers, Artists, and more are needed!
Project folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw9wQojS0lxpOHBEdERyNXVIeWM

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

The Current Archie Comic Situation
http://theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com/post/157126289491/sonic-the-hedgehog-scott-fulop-narrative-ark

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

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First for loopadoop.
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Slow
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>>174924312
Is there a way you could program the camera to pan upwards slightly during inclines? Maybe have it move at an exponential rate so that it doesn't jerk around during small inclines but still allows better sight during longer ones like loops?
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>>174924370
Superiot ship passinh through
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>>174924518
I also mentioned this previously.
Sonic is over halfway up the screen, you can't see where you're going. Having the camera at a lower angle also makes the ground appear to go by faster and increases the sense of speed.
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>>174924196
Chao are super cute
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>>174924518
>>174924653

Let me just make sure I'm understanding you: Do you mean you want the camera to pan up more during loops such that you can see further ahead of Sonic, even when he's upside-down?
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>>174924704
Essentially. You can try having it tilt upwards or physically lower and tilt. Whichever works better in practice.
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>>174924704
I'd ask to just move the camera up in general. Having Sonic smack in the middle is weird.
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>>174924567
But it'll always be just that.
A ship.
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>>174923386
If you're gonna post some of the episode 4 saga music at least choose the best ones
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBz8LXxGv4
>that twang
It was great playing through this stage with that music for the first time
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Comicfags turn away from these threads. The books are gone now, there's nothing to discuss, nothing to speculate, no hope.
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>>174924567
As a fellow Sonaze faggot, I agree but why not try to tone the Sonaze posting down a bit. It's really picked up the last 2 or 3 threads. The last thing we need is for the thread to be spammed with out ship, causing us to be hated. Yeah spamming of ships already happens and will happen regardless but we can at least try to be a little better than them.
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>>174924946
What if I'm also a game fag?

It hurts.
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I just wish Sega would stop taunting us, and just say that Pontaff are writing the next game.
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>>174925082
Ok
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>>174924840
Act I was better.
Though a bit repetitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4eKj2hKZAY
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Best Sonic game to stream for StH gen?
https://youtu.be/TGC4ce_AVcc

Been playing alot of Rabi-Ribi, Spark the Electric Jester, Rocket League and Bayonetta. Its time to give some more respect to Sonic.
I can try the classics if anyone is up to watching.
Mic enabled this time.

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Here some freebies of Steam games for you all.
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>>174924370
Best ship. I need more SonAmy images.

>>174925082
Anon, the chance to be better lost hope the moment you became a shipfag.
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>>174924312
It really is awesome how wide you made the paths. the skinny loops in Utopia felt like walking a tightrope.
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>>174925174
Eh I dunno anon, I like it as well but act 2 is just superior in my honest opinion. Can we at least agree Metal Sonic's theme is fucking great, though repetitive after a while?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS6-5sV89Y
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Post bantz

>"Get ready, here he comes!"
>"He's coming wither I'm ready or not, so why even ask?"
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>>174925256
Just beat Spark Jester with Fark. Goddammit, the game was awesome. Gonna check the rest you mentioned later
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>>174925359
Nah. Posting this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmsioyUMg0&t=395s
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>>174925302
>Anon, the chance to be better lost hope the moment you became a shipfag.
True, but won't stop me from not spamming the thread with my ship.
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>>174925256
Spark was quite good. I wonder why it isn't well known by now?
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>>174924312
>mouse on screen
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>174925256
I have no idea what this is but thanks.
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>>174924312
I'm almost done with the level layout, I'll post it this evening.
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Not enough people streaming it. It seems like. I could stream it again. Though I gotta ask.
Fark or Spark?
Word of mouth marketing helps. Doesn't help the game is buggy with OBS clashing with the game making it crash whenever paused while using Game Capture on it.

The game is coded weirdly.
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>Back in January 2017, I received a proposal from producer Iizuka, who has been working in Sega of America, to reveal a piece of music from “Sonic Forces” in SXSW, a huge event that would be held mid-March in Texas, US.

>It was rather early when calculating back from the planned season of game release. There is no other case of revealing just music at this timing. He said it could also be stage music, but after some talking, we decided to reveal the instrumental version of the main theme.

>The demo of the song was already finished in 2016, so I started recording the instrumental parts by calculating back from the reveal date.

>Starting from the drum recordings on February 23rd, the bass, guitar, piano, and strings were recorded, then a process called track-down, in which each instrument’s sound and balance are adjusted, was finished on March 10th. I then submitted it on the same day to SoA.

>The music was revealed in SXSW’s panel discussion, and its music video was uploaded on YouTube on March 17th; that means we revealed a freshly made song. Last week, the same thing was uploaded on Japan’s SONIC MOVIE CHANNEL.

>The keywords for this theme are serious, cool, dramatic and so on. It starts with a sequence of piano and synthesizer, then comes a speedy band sound and dramatic strings, and at last it ends with an uneasy piano part. The version we revealed is a short version, so you still don’t know the whole structure of the song. *grins*

>This main theme will be used in an important scene in the game. I guess it will be used in a different way than how a main theme is usually used, but it is no doubt a very exciting scene. The last piano phrase will also be used in a very important part of the game, and it is related to the story and meaning of the lyrics. Oops, I almost talked too much about it *lol*
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>>174925440
>forgetting the best theme still
Anon, pls
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FW0gXNkco
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>>174924312
question, I'm trying to use my PS4 controller through a USB connection, and it isn't registering the control stick tilting or the directional pad being pressed. Am I doing something wrong?
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Better fear me better run away!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4gNcJIl88
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No problem. I got another 26 codes to post later on.
Thanks Bundlestars for the cheap deals.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/dollar-forever-bundle
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>>174925950
>The video uploaded overseas has gained over 600k views within one month, and its number is continuing to grow. I have taken this as huge anticipation for the new game. Thank you.

>It seems like even SoA wasn’t expecting this many views for just a music clip, and now there’s even talk of revealing more sounds before the release if people are reacting this much to the music. I am also talking with them and giving suggestions for which kind of music we should reveal, if this idea is really happening. I think that the fun of a game starts already at the point where its information comes out to the world, so I wish to fuel it with music until the game releases.

>Furthermore, it was announced that there will be a vocal version of this theme. For you and for me, this is a long-awaited comeback of a main theme song! There is no way I won’t be fired up. It needs some minor adjustments, but it’s actually almost complete. I know you are probably wondering about the lyrics and the singer, but please wait a little more for that.

>In order to have you enjoy “Sonic Forces”, to create the best sound, to make you think it was worth it loving the ‘Sonic’ series, I am doing my very best with high goals in mind, so please look forward to it! (I’m truly raising my own hurdles)

>In March, I was in Los Angeles, and last week I flew to London.

>It’s all for the “Sonic Forces” soundtrack. I think I can tell you about these songs when the time comes, so please look forward to that, as well.
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>>174925963
If we're posting Metal themes, than I may as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Azop8fALfY&t=0s
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>>174924773
>>174924798
I'll see what I can do.

>>174925306
Thanks. I like to have some elbow-room on my paths so it feels more like a race track.

>>174925879
Sweeeet.

>>174925991
That is very strange. Unity should be detecting it right away. Could you give it a Google and get back to me?
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>>174926112
>The video uploaded overseas has gained over 600k views within one month, and its number is continuing to grow. I have taken this as huge anticipation for the new game. Thank you
When you starve Sonic fans for news for half a year
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>>174926112
Ohtani turning more and more into Senoue.
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I'm very surprised no one has drawn Sage with Moss, since they're like both sloths and she wouldn't have time for his zen bullshit but they might strike up a weird friendship.
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>>174927249
>Moss trys to treat Sage like a pupil
>she tells him to fuck off
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>>174926984
Sorry, the controller is working fine during gameplay, aside from the usual camera spinning present in Sonic World. What I meant was the buttons don't register when mapping commands in the launcher.
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This is Wave the Swallow, mechanic of the Babylon Rogues. Say something nice about her.
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>>174927407
trash
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>>174927407
she has some nice toucans
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>>174927407
She's hot
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If any drawfags are posting on this board:

Requesting this, but with Tails instead of Sonic.

>Oh, and this is not from a fansub, but from the official 4Kids translation (sub, not dub)
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>>174927693
No one wants to fucking draw this in case you're wondering why it hasn't been done the last 2 or 3 times you've asked.
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>>174927407
She got some nice wavers
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>>174927693
Draw it yourself nigger.
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>>174927693
Requesting this but with Bump in place of Sonic and Sage instead of Tails
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>>174927407
I'd be her slave
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>>174927772
Then should I move it to /trash/?
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>Just came back from /co/
>Had just witnessed this thread
>>>/co/91817413

What the fuck did I just witness?
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>>174927407
I would rather say nice things to either Jet or Storm, the true cute birds.

Wave just doesn't touch my thing.
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>>174927407
She seems strangely delicious specially if grille- I mean, she seems nice
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>>174927693
here you go buddy just for you
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>>174928178
Do you think Blaze or Tails ever have random thoughts of how good the people around them would taste?
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>>174928206
Obvious edit is obvious
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>>174928089
No one wants to draw it because it's stupid not because it's lewd, which it isn't.
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>>174928106
Do people still get shocked by this stuff? It's the most beat to death meme.

I don't understand why people like posting their autistic daydreams online. but they do.
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>>174928382
Then where should I put it?
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>>174925256
Mod Sonic 2 with Playable Yoshi, Rabi-Ribi, Spark the Electric Jester, Hallow Knight, Other Sonic Titles (/sthg/ Choice) or Rocket League
What sound good for streaming Famalam?
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>>174928701
In your trashcan.
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>>174927407
We need more birds, official or otherwise
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What sort of requests should I post, in the hopes that drawfags may take them?
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>>174929108
Im still designing Meme the Parakeet to be an OC sluttier than bump
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>>174929136
lewd, cool, or funny are the main ones that usually get fulfilled. the more complex the request the less likely it is to be done. if your request is boring or unappealing it'll be ignored
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>>174929308
post what you have so far. she's going to be hated anyway so good luck
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>>174929395
>lewd, cool, or funny
So, what kind of requests involving a character's butt sticking out towards the viewer would fall into one of these catergories?
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>>174929630
I have nothing, anon. I don't have the motor skills to draw something with a mouse
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>>174929308
Bait should come first.
I can't remember exactly what she was though, though I know she's styled after the characters from Meropis. I've seen her in a few artworks before.
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>>174929709
Good. Maybe this is a sign you should reconsider making garbage.
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>>174929308
>meme the parakeet

Sounds like good idea, post your concepts
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I started learning to play the harmonica recently and decided to try some Sonic related songs after you guys suggested.

Here's my attempt for Escape From the City:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8QJXoxCpI&spfreload=10

what do you think
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Let's be honest /sthg/ how many of you are female? [\spoiler]
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>>174929684
None. You go commission someone for that kind of thing because nobody here wants to do it
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>>174929802
If this is about a date it'll have to wait.
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>>174929851
What about /trash/?
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>>174929802
We can be whatever you want us to be
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>>174929935
i just wanted too see if there were other girls like me on here [\spoiler]
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>>174929793
cute
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>>174929770
Anon, it's just a birb wearing kneesocks that would do things like be in front of a board full of calculations saying "by my calculations, you are butthurt" or be in a pic grieving in front of a grave written "here lies SEGA. Mania was a mistake"
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>>174929938
Yeah, sure whatever
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>>174930151

Feels like a cockatoo would be better suited. Those things live to make the uninitiated miserable.
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>>174925440
I like that game's soundtrack but for fucks sake every song has the same doot doot tssh doo dee doo dee doot tssh drum track.
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>>174929709
>motor skills
>mouse
you just gotta go slow. took me 2 minutes in mspaint
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>>174930076
4 or 5 last time we counted.
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>>174930151
So kind of a slutty reaction/shitpost birb?

>>174930351
Silver is already the sonic universe's cockatoo. Parakeet has potential.
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>>174929802
I'm a female (male).
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>>174930950
Yeah, but a bit smug/teasing too
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>>174931202
Someone bring it to life. Then our sonic heroes team is complete. bump/sage/meme fast/strength/flight
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>>174929136
None, unless a drawfag is in here actively asking for requests.
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Bunnie is fun to draw.
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>>174932239
Bunnie get off the internet.
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>>174931687
I though Pedantic the Rat was the "Knuckles" of the group already.
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>>174932649
I thought Sage was the knuckles
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>>174927407
Speedy should have been the one in her spot in the Babylon Rogues. Wave doesn't share enough with Tails.
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>>174931687
Does that make Triggered, Shitpost and Bait/You sthg's Team Rose?
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>actually trying to make more OCs
Literally no reason. Sage exists as a foil/contrast to Bump. Bump exists to give drawfags something cute to draw to bump threads with. Ask yourselves this before attempting to make a new OC.
Does it serve a purpose?
If you cannot give an actual reason for doing so then you should probably stop.
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>>174925950
>>It was rather early when calculating back from the planned season of game release
>I started recording the instrumental parts by calculating back from the reveal date.
What did he mean by this?

>was finished on March 10th
Shit nigger, that's very close.

>I think that the fun of a game starts already at the point where its information comes out to the world, so I wish to fuel it with music until the game releases.
>fuel it
gif related

>For you and for me, this is a long-awaited comeback of a main theme song!
Ohtani might actually be a pretty cool guy.

Thanks for posting these translations anon. I sometimes forget to check the twitter, and it's also a pain in the ass to read them like that.
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>>174933729
They're only as good as they are popular. There's some ocs being mentioned here that obviously didn't catch on much.

We can strive for likable ocs.
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>>174933729
Any new OC would serve the same purpose Bump and Sage have for existing: none at all except for the heck of it.

We COULD have a Cock OC or something to keep saying "suck it!" tho
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>>174934020
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>>174933951
Bump is only popular because she fulfills a purpose well. Sage's purpose is a lot more pointless than Bump's and as such she is far less popular.
Having an OC for bait pics or shitpost pics, or god forbid, meme pics is some dA cringe material.
>>174934020
Suck the Cock already exists, see >>174934206 , and only ever gets posted for a couple of (You)s on /v/ [your name] the hedgehog threads.
>would serve the same purpose Bump and Sage have for existing: none at all except for the heck of it
Bump actually serves a purpose while it could be argued that Sage does not and is only there for contrast. The [small] amount of art she gets backs this up.
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>>174934020
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>>174933951
>We can strive for likable ocs.
But that won't happen.

Anything outside of bump and sage will be absolutely hated and pretended like it never happened.

Which is for the best. We already have 2 ocs, let's try to contain our autism instead of forcing more.
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So we have Bait, Suck, Shitpost, Triggered, Pedantic and You. Are there any more OC's that people tried to push?
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>>174934638
Suck was an OC made during the Ride I think. It was never really pushed here as far as I remember.
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>>174934638
Jump the Shark?
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>>174934638
Apparently now a kekbird
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>>174934638
I need pics of these tried and failed ocs.
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>>174934798
That's /co/
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>>174934438

To be fair, that's what they said about Beamz a couple of generals over and he worked out.
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>>174935102
Who?
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>>174934638
I don't remember Bait being a serious OC, she was more of an inside joke.
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Meme is done, guys
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>INCOMING UPDATE REGARDING THE ARCHIE SITUATION
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/04/24/heres-a-list-of-the-current-statuses-of-upcoming-sonic-archie-issues/
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>>174935374
this is seriously the best shit ever
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>>174934872
Well here >>174934406 you've got You, Bait, Shitpost and suck.

Pic related is Triggered.
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>>174935857
I thought her name was "Krystal the Hipsterhog" because she was a parody of trannies who look like they take crystal meth.
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>OCs
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So, basically Meme is just Wave with a ponytail and a school uniform?
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>>174935857
I wanna pet Triggered.
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>>174935857
gross
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>>174935807
To add to that, there's no Sonic fcbd issue either.
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>>174935807
Literally nothing new.
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>>174936362

More like a bird version of Scanty from PSG.
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>>174936362
It should be a mouse.
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How do you upload and tag posts to the booru?
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>>174934206
I still love this guy so much. The style is fucking perfect.
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>>174937724
Ehh. I always hated how off the Adventure style looked.
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>>174934872
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>>174929684
You're that same faggot who keeps pestering people for Amy panty shots, aren't you?
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>>174932239
Oh yeah? Prove it.
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>>174938510
Please do not enable them, yoto.
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>>174938498
I want you to leave this fanbase.
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>>174939249
Enable who?
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>>174939515
The fags, of course.
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Ugh. This is so annoying. I'm trying to make it such that Sonic's downhill rolling speed isn't affected by the player holding forward, but I'm struggling to find the source of the issue.

Just thought I'd give you all a heads-up as to what I'm up to.
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>>174939618
Might have to do with deceleration physics for when the control stick is neutral but I really have no clue. Just blowing out some hot air honestly for the shits and giggles.
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>>174939618
I wouldn't bother too much with that. in SA2B in city escape, the wall after the loop has weird physics. the player will actually go FASTER down if he isn't touching the control stick.
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>>174940248
This is true, but I don't want to allow shoddy physics to slip through the cracks simply because Sonic Team did it too, ya know? Plus, this particular issue makes half pipes a nightmare to try to work with. I want lots of different slopes and ramps to work smoothly and predictably, as it gives you guys, the other level designers, more opportunities.
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So i'm gonna stream in about 10 mins
Gonna start with a older cream chasing shadow. Then after that I'll take request.
https://picarto.tv/GeekofLove

for those of you who enjoy me and my friends silly banter and shit. I'm going to eat Raviollios on stream to prove to Broba they arnt that great
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>>174940689
Hey GHPAnon, how do you feel about the hundreds of e-celebs who claim your game is better than anything Sega's made.
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>>174941117
Always when I'm at work! Have fun I guess. :(
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>>174939249
I didn't post that. That said I did tell myself I'd draw her again if she stuck around.
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>>174941930
I'm sorry anon. it's like 11 pm for me. Oneday i'll do it early. I was considering posting the streams on youtube... if you wana be able to watch them
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>>174941564
I feel humbled that they would even say such a thing, but of course I don't agree with them. I think it's absurd to say that Green Hill Paradise "shames" SEGA, or whatever it is that those click-bait articles claim.

I only assert that, on a CONCEPTUAL level, I have done something that Sonic Team has never done: create a fully-3D Sonic game that captures the feeling of playing the classic Genesis titles. Does that make it better than, say, Sonic Unleashed, or Colors, or Generations? I wouldn't say so. GHP is just a different way to look at Sonic and it's up to the player to get out of it what they will. That's all it really is.
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thought about you guys today
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>>174942201
Cool!
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>>174942201
Meme also thought about you
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>>174941564
>>174942146
is this subtle shilling?
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>>174941990
Well at least I don't have to worry about that then.
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>>174942146
>create a fully-3D Sonic game that captures the feeling of playing the classic Genesis titles
Pfft. Not with mach mode in it.
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>>174942591
Anon, this is 4chan. Liking a game at all is shilling.
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>>174942201
Sage a cute
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Hey /sthg/ I want to ask you guys a question. In all honesty, how do you currently feel about Forces, and do you think that feeling will ever change? I say this, because I feel really conflicted. Boost so far looks good, Classic however looks like a step down from Mania,but still enjoyable, but the new character is what's unnerving me the most, especially if it's a CoC like in other games. I personally don't mind creating characters in games, it can be a lot of fun, I don't mind Sonic OCs/Fanmade Sonic designs as long they're balanced, executed well and look like Sonic characters, but it feels like even if the third character's playstyle is the best thing since sliced bread, the shitstorm's still gonna come due to the OC creator and Sonic and its fans will be a laughing stock forever more because metal pastries. The ecelebs shall especially enforce this.
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>>174942714
I suppose that's a fair point. Really, it was just a passion project that got blown WAY out of proportion. I was overwhelmed by the initial reception, but I know that I could do better if I were to do it again. I likely wouldn't have Mach State be such a rigid "wall" to break through and have it naturally flow into Sonic's normal speed cap and give him added properties at that speed such as pulling in rings, bashing through special walls, etc.
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>>174939102
Some other day. Have a Sage instead.
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>>174942994
An OC creator will absolutely be laughed at and mocked regardless of the execution.
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>>174943007
Took you this long to realize the problem with it as it was. At least you've grown.
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>>174942994
You seem too worried about what other people will think, specially given that you seem to think you're gonna have a good time with it.

I recommend starting to call other people a faggot, stat.
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>>174942994
I haven't considered the 3rd character at all. I'm hype for boosting Modern Sonic, but I've been scratching my head at Classic being there when Mania exists since the reveal.
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>>174942994
It looks great. I might not get the point of Classic, but the Modern level looks amazing, and I like the semi-serious tones the story seems to have.
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>>174942994
Honestly? Excited for it. I like 3D Sonics and have Mania (among some fangames) to cover my lust over 2D ones

Also it SEEMS to have a good story. Though last time with 06 over a decade ago, everything backfired
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>>174943125
Spooky sloth
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>>174943125
Why is my Asian miniature garden discussion board mascot suddenly a nigger?
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>>174943145
Well, hopefully this current project will show that growth in a more concrete sense. I also want to show you guys how much fun it can be designing a Sonic level. But we can really only reach that point as soon as I figure out this STUPID ROLLING GLITCH. FUCK.
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>>174942146
Not to be rude but I legitimately think Sonic Utopia is superior...as a whole.
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>>174943578
I'm glad you're helping share this joy with people. I'll probably draft out some level layouts once the semester ends.
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>>174942994
I'm pretty neutral on boost, don't think Classic belongs in it with Mania coming out, and the third character is likely going to disappoint and not live up to expectations. I'll keep an eye on it but I learned my lesson ages ago that getting hype for things is a mistake.
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>>174943824
>don't think Classic belongs in it with Mania coming out
Tired of seeing this. Forces started development before Mania.
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>>174943907
Ok, I still don't think we need another game with him. Not this soon anyway.
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>>174943675
Well, yeah. Of course it is. No need to be shy with that opinion, bro. Uropia was made from the ground up in a more robust engine with an entire team of talented folks. GHP was made by me using an engine built upon a first person shooter.

Honestly, the fact that people even COMPARE GHP to Utopia feels pretty good.

Also, I know Mr. Lange personally. He's a really cool guy. It was never a competition between us to see who could make the better 3D Sonic. To us, as long as ONE of us was proving to the world that 3D Sonic can work, then it's a victory for us both.
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>>174944073
What do you want them to do? Kick it into reverse and waste time taking him out and replacing him with something else?
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Do you think we're about to be hit with big news? The social media team has been missing all kinds of dates lately. Thursday's last video, today's start of the week tweet, and so on. I'm all for things to not be on a routine, but they used to so it's kind of weird.
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>>174944239
They had regular dates? I honestly never noticed.
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>>174944239
Probably not until e3
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>>174909943
>>174907380
>>174907212
>>174904556
>>174904726
>>174910694

Fuck this general. You're all FUCKING losers.
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>>174944443
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>>174944443
Alright.
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>>174944443
You're stuck here with us forever. Tell me what sonic games you think are f- terrible.
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How do you stop your waifu stop smoking?
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>>174944182
>What do you want them to do?
Do a better job than what they did in Generations.
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>>174944239
The next big news will be announcing Sonic Mania was cancelled.
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>>174944665
All of them.
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>>174944945
Generations is the best 3D Sonic game ever.
If you weren't pleased by it then there is no pleasing you.
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>>174944182
Honestly, if Classic Sonic's inclusion is as much of an asspull as it was in Generations, then there's no point in not removing him.
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>>174944239
There's a Japanese stream that will supposedly have Forces stuff tomorrow.
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>>174944665
Sonic Spinball
Every time I put it on to give it another shot I just get furious in less than a minute. I don't know how the fuck you're supposed to control that laggy awful soundtrack having pile of trash.
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>>174944443
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>>174945191
What? When is this and how have I not heard of it?
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>>174944384
Yeah. Streams every odd Thursday, a new tweet every Monday, a video on Youtube every Thursday, and so on.

>>174945191
Wait, what? I haven't seen anyone mention that yet.
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>>174945710
>>174945721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMUFfKqiFfI

It's a new stream in 7 hours. It will contain info about Sonic.
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>remember RaccoonShinobi did some cute Bunnie and Sally pics
>check their Tumblr to see if there's anything new
>latest post
Fucking NOPE. I don't think I've ever closed a tab so fast before.
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>>174946065
Oh wow, almost at the same I'm supposed to get going to work. Not sure why no one mentioned this stream. Oh well. Thanks for bringing it up and goodnight /sthg/.
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Finally finished. The question marks are where I ran out of ideas, so you can discuss what fills those spaces. Everything else, of course, is also up to GHPAnon regarding what to keep or not.

So, whaddya think? Looks fun so far?
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>>174946149
They sure do like pregnancy stuff. Even the guys get pregnant.
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>>174947104
Wait what
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>>174946149
Wasn't that bad.
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>>174946936
Make the greenhouse part of a room or a sub-room within a room instead of a separate area that doesn't connect to anything.
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>>174945125
I think that anons taking about three 2D Classic Sonic.
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>>174947445
STOP!
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>>174947445
delete this
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>>174947445
Looks more like shitty vore than anything else.
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>>174947445
There's mpreg and then there's fucking kill yourself there is no god
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>>174947445
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>>174946149
>commission

Least hes getting paid to draw weird shit.
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>>174946936
Bumping in case >>174944181 didn't see it
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>>174948234
Oh! Shit I didn't see it! Lemme take a good look at it...
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>>174943125
spoopy sage is spoopy
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>>174946936
WOW! This is some really impressive stuff! I'm gonna scribble on it a bit, if that's okay, then I'll be back with a couple questions about it. Be sure to put it in the Concept Art section!

This just got a little bit more real, guys.

In other news, I seem to have fixed that little rolling bug. Things feel a lot more natural now.
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>Sonic comic dies just before it hits #300
>Forces looks like Generations but worse

At least we have Mania and the Boom show.
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>>174948876
>generations
>bad
Y'all niggas trying way to hard to have unique opinions.
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>>174949074
>but worse
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>>174949074
Modern Sonic was good. But Classic looks mostly unchanged from then, and the third character is a fucking wild card.
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>>174948876
>Forces looks like Generations but worse
?
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>>174949074
>Forces looks but Generations but with a speed booster in Green Hill
FTFY
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>>174949337
>boost pad WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
autism
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>>174949074
Where'd anyone say that?
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>>174901587
I liked Heroes' health bar system. No longer defeating an enemy in one hit was definitely a huge change, but it made leveling up feel so much more empowering. No other game in the series does that.

True, control was quite slippery though, but the combat was quick enough.
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Instead of Classic Sonic being in Forces, Modern should have played Rush style in Act 1, and Unleashed style in Act 2.
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>>174949446
Worse implies a preexisting state of poor quality. If he meant Generations was good then he should have said "like Generations but bad".
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>>174949489
>falling straight down
>land on the ground
>instantly running at top speed
>run off cliff
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>>174946936
Please have a look at this edit, Design-Anon.
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>>174949731
Yeah. that needed fixing.
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>>174947326
>>174949759
I don't really understand how you can have a greenhouse in the middle of a building and still call it a greenhouse and not just a very well-greened room, but even still I have no idea where to put it anyways because it's so big. Where would you suggest we move it, and what would replace the fourth corridor?

Yes, the two very skinny-looking paths are supposed to represent rails, I forgot to notate that.

In regards to the ultra-secret Eggman room, I envisioned Eggman sitting in front of and facing a giant array of screens picturing different parts of the level. When the player enters the room, a long and sarcastic monologue congratulating the player on finding the room would play, without Eggman ever turning around. I just thought it'd be a funny easter egg.
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>>174925754

Because it's buggy as shit and unplayable for some people and the dev won't fix it

>Works for me :^)
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>>174950126
I'll see if I can get Grinding working. If not, we may have to replace the rails with something else, like a small, walled runway.

As for the Greenhouse... I'm not sure! I really like the idea. Surely there's a way to get Sonic from this section to somewhere else without it seeming hackneyed. Help us out, guys! Try and think of every "Green" level from as many different Sonic games as you can and see if you can think of a mechanic from one of those levels that could get the player from this sealed-off room to somewhere back on track.

I'm sure our resident Eggman Anon would love to be a part of that kind of Easter Egg. Well done.
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>>174950563
GHPAnon, I'm about to blow your fucking mind with this totally crazy and never-before-heard information.

Me and Eggmananon are the same person. I am a drawfag AND a voicefag.
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>>174950563

Did you add drifting yet
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>>174950668
... Fuckin'... Gahdammit, man. You are a treasure.

>>174950856
Don't see much of a point with the current control scheme. You can control Sonic pretty well at high speeds without losing too much speed to the point where drifting becomes pointless. However, what if drifting is brought in as an ANIMATION for turning at high speed? Do you think that would look cool?
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>>174946936
>>174948742

Impressive? There's barely anything fucking there. There's 5 giant sections with nothing to do. He didn't "run out of ideas', he flat out has none.

Might as well pitch this to Mr.Lange since this seems like excellent level design for Utopia.
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>>174951048
This whole project is shit desu. Nobody in it has any talent whatsoever. All it's resulted in is shitty tripfaggotry and attentionwhoring
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>>174951015
If you use Unleashed drifting then sure.

If Sonic is Spin dashing, then use Generations drifting animation.
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>>174949759
A water slide that goes from the basement to the first floor? Unless that's supposed to lead backwards from the area just before the goal ring, that doesn't make much sense. Unless it was pumping water from the basement to a fountain in that question mark area or something.
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>>174929793
You need to work on not missing some notes and in not choking at the end. But other than that, it was pretty good, few minor adjustments and you'll nail it.
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>>174951371
Oh fuck, you're right. Logical error. We should either trash it or just make it a regular secret passage with no water involved.
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>>174951015

What do you mean current control scheme? Did you completely revamp it since the GHP2?

Cause if you didn't change shit, then naw. The drifting mechanic can lead to some nice tight level design, especially if it's implemented as well as the SUMO Digital games.
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>>174930076
>girl
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>>174951505
Alternatively, we could have a physics-puzzle, or a straight-up platforming section take you higher up above the water, leading to the tunnel. To be honest, the water section only seems to have water with not much going on above it. A good water section will always have lots of ways to get out of it and have a section above it.

>>174951557
This is done in an entirely new engine where the turning is a lot tighter. I'll be uploading a new build in a little bit here so you can get a feel for it yourself.
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>>174951713
Yes, I agree with the fact that the water area needs to be a bit more complex. Do you think the "spiky wall shapes" should be traded out for a more smooth area to accommodate for above-water platforms and physics puzzles?
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>>174951713
>This is done in an entirely new engine where the turning is a lot tighter. I'll be uploading a new build in a little bit here so you can get a feel for it yourself.

If you're telling me you can make tight turns at high speeds then I'm a bit concerned. There should be some level of resistance when going fast so that you don't start flying all over the fucking map like in Sonic Heroes if you decide to tilt the stick slightly.

I'll wait till the build arrives, but you can't replicate the feel of a drift by simply slapping an animation on it.
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>>174951927
I think smoother would be better in this case, yeah.
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>>174951713
Can a Aquatic-Mine-esque water level raise/lower mechanic be implemented?
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>>174952059
Okay, I will take these criticisms and improve on them tomorrow, hopefully earlier than midnight. When you're ready, start fleshing out the parts you DO like and keep thinking about what to fill those question mark areas with.
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Is fangame progress blogging going to fill the void of ded comics and no news?
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3 Hours of Rabi Ribi and after eating a Strawberry Shortcake my eyes are heavy with sleep.
It couldn't be this way but my body is telling me to head in to bed.
Good Night /sthg/ thanks for the wonderful stream!
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>>174952273
yes
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>>174952127
Perhaps! Hit a button, it activates an animation that lowers the water volume? Nothing I haven't done before. Put that in the Ideas document and it'll be looked into.

>>174952203
Awesome. The rest of you, feel free to keep submitting those ideas to the document. Things are going great considering we're less than a week in.

>>174952273
I sure hope so.
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>>174952419
Night, sleep well
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>>174935374
Did you drew that?
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I'm going to bed, folks. I'm doing a lighting build and it looks like it might take a bit, so I'll upload the newest playable build tomorrow evening. Great work, everybody! G'night!
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>>174954578
Good night, anon!
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Finally back from my ba-

>>174954578
Aw...
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>>174954696
Don't be sad! I'll be back real soon! <3
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blog fags are asleep, post pictures of sonics.
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>>174955424
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I want to make a Sonic game with horror-themed elements someday. Not like ACTUAL horror, but Dracula and all that. Castlevania stuff.
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>>174956009
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>>174956529
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>>174956667
Damn hippies.
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>>174957235
Damn cute hippies
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>>174957320
Damn that's cute, well goodnight ./sthg/, I will see you all later.
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>>174957528
Night!
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>>174957654
Button's broke, try again.
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>>174955424
Joke's on you I'm gong to blog right now.

I just woke up and I just feel so exhausted and shitty. In going to spend the day playing persona 5 and occasionally check this thread for the fangame level updates or the inevitable comic cancellation email being posted.
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>>174962289
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>>174962418
What are you? Gay?
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>>174954578
Have you made this model yourself? Looks like something I saw Shoppaaa do a few years back.
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>>174955014
Is there going to be a fucking metal sonic race in your next project or what

Metal sonic playable character when
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>>174956142
I've seen that art before. Someone posted it on Bumbleking a few years ago and asked Ian about a spooky-themed arc, and IIRC he said he always had a story in mind for one.

Too bad comics are kill and he can't now.
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>>174962942
I'd like to see Metal with the shininess of the shoes Sonic had before they told him to change them.
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>>174963360
I'd like to see Metal as a playable character with all his moves. It sucks that rise of lyric was garbage, I think a sonic beat em up could be good if it was DMC.

Think about it, pull off massive chain and metal could use maximum overdrive. Sonic could homing attack chain to enemies, Knuckles can crack some skulls.

In a perfect world, I guess.
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>>174935807
>Overdrive Cancelled

FOR WHAT

FUCKING

PURPOSE
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>>174964059
Because fuck you - Archie
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>>174963471
In a perfect world we'd get a company that makes good games for their mascot. Can we just take Sonic away from Japan already. They clearly don't give a fuck about him. Mania is already a fanboy dream. Put him in the hands of real Sonic fans.

New Sonic the Hedgehog
Executive Producer - SomecallmeJohnny
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>>174964472
Shut up, Johnny
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>>174964472
Sure thing, john.
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>mfw Forces comes out right as 3D fangames are on the rise
>mfw Forces sucks and SEGA gives up and we usher in a glorious age of official fangames that give us what we all wanted all along
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>>174964698
If a company is neglecting a beloved series.
Make a whiz bang fan game and keep your goddamn mouth shut until you have a finished build to anonymously release to the public.
Like AM2R minus the whole everybody knows about it thing.
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>>174942994
Call me a minority, but I WANT an OC creator. I think it would be really fun and a lightning rod for attention from people who even aren't really into Sonic.
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>>174964998
SEGA openly admitted they support fangames to spit on the whole AM2R controversy. SEGA is one of the only Japanese game companies using progressive business policies right now.
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>>174965992
Yeah I'm being too much of a downer. Sega has always been cool about that kind of stuff. I remember the Sonic Youtube account posting on the Sonic Utopia video something like, "brb DMC, lol jk". And that was right around the time AM2R came out.
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>>174965992
On the flip side though Nintendo could have shut down AM2R but they let him release the full version before slapping the C&D.
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>>174949337
There was at least one speed booster in Green Hill in Generations too, though.

>>174949407
"I AM SILLY" + "lol ur just autistic" = not an argument

Also I'm pretty sure that anon wasn't complaining about the speed booster when he said that, but rather referring to the shitstorm that it caused.

>>174949632
>Worse implies a preexisting state of poor quality.

It doesn't though. It just means "less good or desirable". The preexisting state of whatever subject at hand doesn't necessarily have to factor into the usage of the word. I think what we have here is just a lack of reading comprehension.
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>>174966949
They threatened to pull their sponsorship of The Game Awards unless AM2R and Pokemon Uranium were disqualified, which suggests they really just didn't know.

>>174966697
SEGA is only cool about Sonic fangames though. And even then, I don't know if they'd be ok with Sonic 2 HD if that ever got off the ground.

Ryan Bloom made a good video on the subject, and tells of 3 golden rules for fangames:

>Don't try to profit from your fan project
This is something I will never understand. If artists can take commissions for fanart and remixes, they should be able to take money for fangames as well. Paramount has historically supported fan movies and series's, but they've been much more douchey about them lately.

>Don't remake a commercial product
This makes some sense, but even then, Valve endorses Black Mesa and Capcom endorsed that one MM3 remake. So I don't know.

>Tell people you're unofficial
This is the only one that should be self-explanatory. But if people weren't retards, this wouldn't be such an issue.
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>>174967919
>Don't try to profit from your fan project
Companies don't like it because it can cause them issues when trying to re-apply for their copyright.

Fanart and other stuff don't get DMC'ed to hell and back because the internet commission industry is relatively small and fairly new, and I don't believe they can consider it unfair competition since their business is software; Not art or music, even if they do sell it as merchandising.

>Don't remake a commercial product
Self explanatory if you ask me.

None of these is mandatory, a company can allow any and all infringements of their copyright if they so desire, and in many cases it does help their PR to do so. But mainly because most companies are very anal about it, and sometimes for good reasons.
Valve for example allows Black Mesa because they aren't doing shit with HL anymore, and because allowing them to sell it on Steam still means they make a profit off it with no work whatsoever.
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>>174968212
>None of these is mandatory, a company can allow any and all infringements of their copyright if they so desire,
Whether they have the right to or not doesn't disguise the fact that it's a dick move. ScrewAttack makes money off of Death Battle, and yet Nintendo shit on Super Mario Bros Z's patreon despite it being an equally valid parody.
>and in many cases it does help their PR to do so.
How? Nintendo's constant DMCA takedowns for Youtube have been steadily fucking up their image for years. Same for Viacom.
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>>174967808
>less good or desirable
Way to copy and paste the first Google result. To put it in simpleton terms you might understand. Worse means badder than bad.
Even the example sentence from what you quoted implies a preexisting state of badness.
>"the accommodations were awful, and the food was worse"
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>>174968880
I said that allowing people to infringe their copyright benefits their PR.
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>>174946065
Have they shown Sanic yet?
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>>174970340
no idea but its a cute show
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>>174970340

A while back. It was stuff we'd already seen.
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>>174969346
Oh. I misunderstood.
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>>174968880
>ScrewAttack makes money off of Death Battle, and yet Nintendo shit on Super Mario Bros Z's patreon despite it being an equally valid parody.
Not the same thing. SA doesn't sell nor collect any form of income with Death Battle as a product. They get ad revenue.

The other guy gets paid directly to produce SMBZ, most likely makes a profit and parody laws do not protect everything fanart.
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>>174971189
I like SMBZ, but I'm suprised the guy made his Patreon initially just SMBZ instead of just general sprite animations.
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>>174971189
>Super Mario Bros Z
That's still a thing? Like holy shit, I was still a kid when I watched that on Newgrounds.
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>>174971513
It got rebooted, and there's already one episode. That was a few months ago though.

https://youtu.be/C5-ErbSrTOc
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Boom makes centered 3D mouths look very good.
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I'm going to marry Amy desu!!
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This art feels like summertime youth doesn't it boys

I remember my buddy had sonic advance back in the day, and I only had a gameboy color at the time. Sonic Advance blew my goddamn mind.

What got you guys into the series? Commercial? Friends? Word of mouth?
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How do you feel about Spaz's art?
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>>174972494
"I'm going to marry Amy desu!!"

Sonic posted anonymously on the internet.
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>>174972797
My parents bought my brother and I a Genesis model 2 that came with Sonic 2.
I wasn't there from the beginning but 2 is good enough. Sonic is only one year younger than me.
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>>174972859
Ugly and overrated.
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Name (1) better piece of music in 3D Blast.
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Gotta Drink Fast
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>>174975737
Does anyone ever actually enjoy random flavortext?
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>>174974830
3D Blast (Genesis) has such an amazing soundtrack. This is my personal favorite and favorite track in all of the games. I think 3D Blast's OST is kind of overlooked because the game is kind of a stinker. I have a soft spot for it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfG09iLCKsM
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>>174976542
That's actually my second favorite, good taste anon.
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>>174978463
Thank you. It doesn't take much insight to see how good 3D Blast's soundtracks was.
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>>174967808
>le not an argument meme
autism
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/r/ing this image but with Sage
http://imgur.com/Wc5haOf
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GUYS
NEW CLASSIC GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE
http://nintendoeverything.com/sonic-forces-brand-new-classic-sonic-footage/
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>>174980010
Video embed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw
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>>174980163
looks ok to me. and the music seems nice.
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>>174980010
>>174980163
I swear this dude just lets go and the controller at some points.
>tire physics
neat
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>>174980163
They managed to make it worse than Generations. What the shit. This is on-par with S4E1.

Also
>Hey guys it's totally not Green Hill!
>jk it's just Green Hill
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>>174980321
>worse than Gens
nah
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>>174980163
Honestly this looks like it flows way nicer than Generations, Classic Sonic was too heavy in that game IMO.
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>>174980010
>>174980163
Looks like it does have some exploration. Seems bland compared to Generations though.

>>174980321
Honestly, I liked Splash Hill's song more than this.
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>>174980163
Were there red star rings in classic levels in Generations? I honestly forget.
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>>174980593
Yes
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>>174980163
Really like the music in this one. I also love how Classic Sonic seems to have an entirely different mood from the main theme meaning that the playstyles are going to have their own individual moods.

I will totally not use this to post more fake leaks.
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>>174980163
Thanks for the link, I'm on mobile and it wasn't loading for me in the page. Can't believe they just discretely decided to drop that. Also funny that Nakamura was saying how it wasn't Green Hill when the zone was first shown in the direct and now they're just "so here's Green Hill..."

Anyway, now we await the shitstorm.
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>>174980593
yes,it was.
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>>174980593
There were
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>>174980632
I actually don't like how there's separate moods. It's going to be jarring in one game. Considering we see some Classic Badniks, I think this may be before it shifts, or even right as it sifts.
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>>174980632
What do you mean by mood? That Classic Sonic is going to be happier or something?

I'm assuming that this is the first stage, or close to it, so not much has happened yet. It's even possible that the "classic world" isn't impacted as much. Seems like kind of a leap to me.
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>>174950563
Maybe the greenhouse area could be on the roof?
Have some sorta door or access up high that leads to an area above the main event?
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>>174980632
Maybe the mood varies and isn't fixed to one or the other Sonic, or this level is early in the story and the rest is more uniform.

>I will totally not use this to post more fake leaks.
Do it faggot.
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>>174980862
>>174980878
>>174981151
Probably so. I just enjoy it when the music matches the tones and visuals of the environment. Gives a pleasing aesthetic and immersion even if the gameplay does seem a bit lacking to me.

Another anon mentioned it, but the music in this one felt a lot like Splash Hill Zone and the Advance Sonic games.

One thing that I didn't like about Generations was that the Classic and Modern themes were just remixes of themselves when they were already remixes. Although I understand why, I didn't like how half the soundtrack sounded so samey.
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>>174980163
They use the Drop Dash from Mania at 1:27
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Is there any possibility that the third character could be Shadow or Metal Sonic?
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>>174981234
Son of a bitch, they do!
I'm on mobile so I can't judge too well, but the controls seem to be much tighter than in Gens.
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>>174981315
Not now that the third character has been stated as being new and teased with a silhouette
Also what would they bring to the table that Sonic couldn't that would make their playstyle "unique"?
Please don't say "a gun"
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>>174981315
I'll be extremely disappointed if the third character turns out to just be Tails
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>>174980163
I really dislike all those random springs out of nowhere.
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>>174950126
>>174950563
>>174981030
I'm thinking the "greenhouse" could be an outdoor courtyard. I know you don't want outdoor areas because you don't want to waste time modeling the scenery, but if it's in the middle of the building then it'll just be surrounded by the museum's walls. And if you really just want a greenhouse you can stick a roof on top of it.

Here's an example of a covered courtyard.
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>>174981581
>Yfw the new character is actually Punished Tails from the future where Eggman kills Sonic and the reason his tails aren't shown is because they got cut off.
Nah probably not. That's a bit too edgy.
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>>174980163
Boring, but it is the first level. I'm still looking forward to mania.
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>>174980163
I have no clue what to think of this music.
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>>174981601
The springs are really pissing me off because of how stiff the player's trajectory is. Looks like there's limited air control, if any. It's especially noticeable on the double springs at 0:49 and 0:53 where they just snap the player to one of them, and I swear Sonic is getting the exact same trajectory from every single spring, including forward movement.

The controls just look stiff as fuck. I don't see how people are saying this looks better than Classic in Generations.
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>>174980163
I still withold my theory that this is like...an intro stage.

It's much shorter than Green hill was in generations and seems more like a "here's sonic. This is how he plays" entry level.

Maybe that's just wishfull thinking. I do think it helps set the stage. How green hill zone has Eggman's new robots and all the water is replaced by lots of sand. That coupled with the music is both optimistic and bleak all at once.

Anyway , even if it's not up to snuff, I'm sure Classic will still be somewhat fun to play as.
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>>174980163
It certainly looks graphically better than it looked at the Direct.
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Looks awesome to Me! Still hyped for Forces!
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What are you gays arguing about today?
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>>174983284
I AM NOT A GAY YOU ARE THE GAY
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>>174980163
Not entirely sure what to think about the music, but I'll save my criticism for that and go into my biggest problem with the preview: the physics.

It seems very much like Sonic hits a brick wall whenever jumping on enemies from above. Doesn't seem to be much in the way of carried momentum off of bouncing off of an enemy from the top, and any sort of mild angle the player had when impacting the enemy seems forced into absolute vertical movement, killing whatever lateral momentum the player had.

I really hope that's not the case, but if they've messed that up then I won't be happy. Part of the fun of speed-running Classic Sonic in Generations (and the 2D games in general) was knowing how and where to time your jumps and launches just right to catapult yourself off of an enemy. If that's gone, it's going to hamstring a lot of the classic feel.
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Mania's existence is gonna hurt Forces a lot.
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>>174980163
This doesn't really sound like the final music, eh who knows
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>>174983649
Classic Sonics existance in Forces is what hurts it. The game would be infinitely better if it was just modern Sonic.
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>>174983649
>implying mania is going to sell well
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I like how the video explicitly says "Green Hill Zone" after all the backpedaling about it not being called that.
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>>174984116
Was sega backpeddling? or was it just fans.
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>>174980163
This music is amazing. Truly, Ohtani has really been working hard on this. Still wish Jun was somewhat involved, though. It would be interesting to see what a collaboration between them would sound like.
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>>174980163
Music could be better and I think they overdid it with the springs.
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>>174984257
>Nakamura: "It's not Green Hill"
>GREEN HILL ZONE: ACT 1
>insert It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia theme here
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How do you think Forces will do in reviews?
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>>174984104
>implying Mania isn't the Sonic game getting the most hype in years
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>>174984578
No it's HILL GREEN ZONE: ACT 79
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>>174984104
Selling well isn't the issue. It's the fact that Mania will be providing and reminding a lot of people about what Classic Sonic gameplay should be like. And when people start playing Forces and see 1/3 of the game is not even close to being as good or close to the Classic games or Mania, it will leave a negative impression.
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>>174984614
I would have to care about reviews in order to answer that question.
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>>174980163
>>174980010
Nice to see Sega has learned nothing about what made 2D Sonic good, the physics still look shitty.
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>>174984614
>caring about reviews
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>>174946936
>>174949759
I threw together a side-view of how I interpreted the first corridoor tutorial area, hope it's simillar to what you had in mind.
>long pic is loooooooooooooonnng

>>174981663
this seems a cool way to go with it.
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Question: with all these people that supposedly want to fuck ABT, why does nobody ever talk about Tyson Hesse?!
MegaDrive is way better than SU anyway...
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>>174984614
>Ever since Sonic 2006 and Sonic Boom, the franchise has kept going downhill
>This time, Sega is going back to Sonic's roots with Classic Sonic stages
>This game is an unfinished buggy mess and it's too short
>This game is another painful reminder that Sonic games were never good to begin with
>To see our perfect score review of Super Mario Odyssey, subscribe to IGN's youtube channel
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>>174980010
>>174980163
Man that is a boring as fuck looking level compared to Gens Green Hill.
The biggest thing I noticed is the lack of any dynamic camera angles, which made the classic levels in Gens more interesting to look at.
This just reminds me of the 2D Sections in Lost World and that is not a good image to be reminded of.
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>>174973521
So just like every other "artist" on the comic
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>>174980163
VINTAGE ROBERT BUTTNICK CONFIRMED
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>>174986272
Bates isn't overrated.
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>>174980163
I WAS RIGHT! THE FLOOR DOES COLLAPSE BEFORE THE LOOP! You fools didn't believe me! Now you have Eggman on your face! Har har har!

Ahem...If I can be honest, I take back everything I said about the aesthetics. I think it looks better than Generations now. That lighting is beautiful, and so is the wind blowing across the grass. There's a lot of detail in the environment without making it look overly cluttered and busy like Generations did. I'll bet they put out this purely for damage control, but it worked for me at least.

The physics don't look 100% great, but they look improved. Did anyone notice how Sonic gained a lot of speed when running down at 0:41? Or that the spindash was nerfed? Or better yet, the lack of setpieces? That scripted loop section from Generations is nowhere to be seen here.

The music sounds cute and catchy. Did anyone also notice it didn't start until Sonic moved? That would be a cute feature, but I'm almost positive they just put the music to the video because it suddenly gets louder towards the end.
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>>174985858
He looks like what the is. A fucking nu-hipster jock.
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>>174985865
When IGN's gonna start a petition to SEGA to stop them making new games? People need to be shown that Sonic is a lie, I have been waiting 25 years to sign one!
something something big the cat
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>>174980163
>/sthg/ has a more calm and okay reaction towards the footage.
>Meanwhile the YouTube comments on all posts of this footage is filled with mostly salt.

Also was that the Drop Dash I saw in there?
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>>174985858
With a name like Tyson Hesse I expected him to be black or at least caramel. I am very disappointed.
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>>174980163
SHOW ME YOUR DISLIKES FAGGOTS
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>>174980163
That marvel vs capcom trailer is hilarious, they basically ripped off the second megaman and sonic cross over.
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>>174986357
Yes he is. Granted he's the least shit because he at least tried to stay on model, but even then he failed to do it all the time and wasn't that good anyways
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>>174986996
Tell me your favorite artist on the book so I can laugh at you.
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>>174986996
This is the part where I throw you a (You)
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>>174987113
None. Bates is the best, but not saying much. None of them are really GOOD
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>>174986996
>muh sanic comic needs to be perfect 100% always on model color in the lines quality content
Autism truly is a work of art.
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>>174987307
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>>174986701
I wish i could shoot every cuck who is excited for this shit
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>>174986701
>>174987986

>Hating a game that hasn't even come out yet
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>>174987986
Get a load of edgy the hedgie over here.
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>>174987986
I'd welcome it. We all gotta die sometime.
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>>174988183
This.

I still don't understand why this keeps happening.
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>>174988202
I bet he'll make his OC in Forces Coldsteel
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>>174988202
>Edgy the Hedgie
lel
Original name for Shadow before he was renamed towards the end of development.
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>>174987424
>wanting good art is autism
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the music sounds like it ripped from sonic 4
thats the only negative thing i've got
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>>174988736
You're joking, right? Green Hill in Forces sounds way more like something from the Genesis than anything Sonic 4 could make.
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>>174980163
We'all, it looks better than what we saw during the direct. And the drop dash is there. Otherwise, I don't really care. Maybe if they show another level besides Greenhill, I'd be more excited.
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>>174988727
No, showing signs of having autism is autism you autist.
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>>174988727
No, but demanding that every Sonic artist draws exactly like the official style is pure autism.
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>>174988875
Take it from someone who's been toying with soundboards for years, this new track sounds like someone just fucked about with a Genesis-themed MIDI player for a few minutes and slapped it in.
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>>174986006
>reminds me of Lost World
Now that you mention it, it's very weird that during the Anniversary Party reveal they purposefully avoided mentioning Lost World, but every single thing they say now seems to mention Lost World and how what they're doing takes from it.

I feel like they pulled a bait and switch.
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I'm really thinking Mania's story is tied directly to Forces story.
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>>174988960
Fucking autocorrect.
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>>174988875
It really doesn't, it only sounds slightly better than the shit in Sonic 4. Classic Sonic doesn't need fake Genesis soundfont to sound like Classic Sonic, games like CD and Mania prove that.
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>>174986431
this. ABT has weird sexually interested fans because they think he's accessible. He turns up here every once in a while and they think "oh he's just like me, maybe i have a chance".

there you have it.
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>>174989017
>Take it from someone who's been toying with soundboards for years
So you're bad at your job.
>>
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>>174988727
Whining that everything an artist draws isn't 1:1 with the official material is pretty autistic especially relating to comics. That's your run of the mill autism if anything. Be honest with yourself. There's complaining about quality and there's being a drooling wishing to be spoonfed fuccboi. Don't be the latter.
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>>174989608
ABT looks like he could be someone's uncle. Someone you'd drink a beer with.

Hesse looks like a pretentious faggot. How fitting he's dating Mariel Cartwright of all people.
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>>174990101
And who are you dating? HEYOOOOOOOO

I'm sorry I went there. You made it too easy but don't worry, I'm single too.
That's actually a lie but did it make you feel better?
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>>174981901
Sonic Runners but with the wrong instruments
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>>174988736
>>174988875
Even Sonic 4 had better songs than this.
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>>174990397
I'd rather date nobody than a "artist" who is only good at copying things, which is the only reason wy she gets hired and doesn't even have a style of her own.

Okay, I lied too. I'd totally Mariel.
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New tweet.

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/856921669444583424
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https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/856921669444583424

Welp. Guess we were right after all.
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>>174990101
not gonna lie, I just spent like 20 minutes scrolling through ABT's twitter to confirm this uncle thing
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>We'll never get another Beach Beginner stage.
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>>174990101
but do you want to fuck someone's uncle?
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>>174980163
Interestingly, the sign at the end showed Classic Eggman.
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>>174992375
That's not interesting. Generations did the same thing.
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>>174991213
>>174991247
>So is this Generations 2?
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>>174992375
>>174992551
Literally the exact same model and animation from Generations.
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>>174990669
>implying Sonic 4 didn't have good songs before this
>implying Splash Hill Act 3, Casino Street Act 2, and Lost Labyrinth Act 2 aren't good
>implying Mad Gear Act 1, 2, 3, Sky Fortress Act 2, and White Park Act 1 great
>implying fucking VS Metal Sonic, Death Egg MK II, and White Park Act 2 aren't GOAT
>not liking Quackers Oil Station
You can sit next to the plebs who don't like Shadow the Hedgehog OST and that one guy who never gave Black Knight OST a listen until I informed him of its greatness.
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>>174992739
Sonic 4 had good music composition, but bad execution.
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>>174992739
I actually like the soundtrack too, calm down.

Honestly, I actually like the game too. That may have because I paid a dollar for it on mobile.
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>>174991991
>we will never get another Desert beginner stage
LET THE SPEED MEND IT
No Lost Prologue doesn't count. Shut it.
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>>174992948
>we will never get another City beginner stage
Route 99 wasn't that bad.
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>>174992739
Best soundtrack is Spark the Electric Jester
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>>174993526
It was for a beginner stage, and I say that as someone who like Advance 3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9B9Fvr1ehw
What a weird stage. Those skeletons used to scare me during my first playthrough. Creepy as shit how they peeked out and disappeared.
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>>174993526
>that enemy placement
You're right, it wasn't that bad. It was much worse.
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>>174993526
>we will never get another upbeat fun festive amusement park beginner stage
Dammit Eggman. Make another amusement park.
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>>174993824
The main reason why everyone hates Sonic Heroes.
This stage right here.
It broke the pacing of the stage WAY too much as well having the Gauntlet you have to go thru with every single power of each character.

The only saving grace is the music and the music in the game is hit/Miss.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnOjYhjsELs

I'm starting to think that some fans know shit about level design.
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>>174994345
>and the music in the game is hit/Miss.
Nigger you best be joking. There's like 5 tracks tops that are hit/miss and those are Seaside Hill, Metal Madness, Sea Gate, Lost Jungle, and Hang Castle. Everything else is solid as fuck.
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>>174992375
What if there are three Eggmans?
Classic Sonic vs Classic Eggman
Modern Sonic vs Modern Eggman
Sonic Nega vs Eggman Nega
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>>174994691
>fans know shit about level design
>links one of the most drawn out and overly long mod levels for Generations
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>>174995027
I assumed that's what he meant. Like the problem with the phrase "know shit" is that unlike "don't know shit", I've seen "know shit to mean both "They know a lot" or "they don't know anything" As in, "their understanding of this comcept is shit" which is what I assumed he meant.

It's like those people who say "I could care less"
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>>174995027
Yes. "know shit" like in "know jack shit", not "know their shit".
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>>174994691
What a clusterfuck.
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>>174994815
>implying Eggman's Fleet / Final Fortress, Rail Canyon, Egg Albatross, Robot Madness and Regular Boss battle themes doesn't suck.

Wow Nostalgia goggles much? Those themes suck.
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>>174994691
It has open space for the sake of having open space. If you're going to have it, fucking use it.
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Drop Dash > Boost > Spin Dash >> Homing Attack >>> Turd >>> Super Peel Out.
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>MFW the $10 I sent to the composers of Spark the Electric Jester soundtrack sent me the OST in perfect sound quality.
My favorite stage is Mare Desert. The tune is fucking great.
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>>174997423
I disagree with all of this.
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>>174997676
That's really cool of them.
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>>174997423
Boost and Homing Attack aren't even in the same game as the Drop Dash.

The fuck is turd?
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>>174996671
What the fuck kind of piece of shit do you have to be to dislike those themes? What the fuck? Are they too intense for you or something?
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>>174997676
>>174925926
>>174993571
Is StEJ posting the next FP posting?
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>>174998707
I sure hope so.
At least the Dev is brazilian and not a total faglord.
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>>174998465
You can either support them https://materiacollective.bandcamp.com/album/spark-the-electric-jester-original-game-soundtrack
Or simply rip them if don't have the muns.
IMHO senpai the composition is alot better then that of Freedom Planet.
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I honestly think this game will never be topped all things considered. This is my favorite Sonic game. It always will be. Everything from the nice colorful graphics to the fantastic music to the fun rewarding gameplay, this game is just a fucking treat. It's also flowing with oodles of content and is honestly one of the better polished sonic games. Just like Unleashed. Sonic games are perfect when they're focused and consistent like this one.
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>>174999547
It doesn't reward you after completing Hard Mode stages though.
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Damn, you shitposters really know how to hop on the latest copy-paste bandwagon and ride it for decades, huh?
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>>174999732
welcome to /sthg/
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>>174999702
https://youtu.be/OLZfD-OvB0w
Yes it does. It rewards you with Super Hard Mode.
Only Sonic fans that are pantsu on head retarded would do this mode.
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>>174999957
Only Sonic fans that feel like they have the need to confront the evils of the world would do this mode***

FTFY
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>>174999957
God just watching them play through seaside hill makes me miss this game so much.
I can't imagine how people don't like this game.
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>>174985752
Also, for the ramp part, it could have a tunnel through the ramp, giving players a choice of routes, going either up the ramp and over the top of the structure or straight through it!
The tunnel could be a rolling-only type like in Sonic 1 greenhill that takes you straight through, or just big enough for sonic to squeeze through whilst running.
The tunnel could be straight or bendy, as illustrated in pic, or even loopier or even go to some other hidden area.
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>>174999957
>"SHIT-ROCK-YEAH!"
I enjoy watching it being played more than playing it myself. Lets me enjoy all the work they put into the scenery and fish-shaped islands 'n stuff.

Also, what the heck is Tails saying with his attack?
>chase
>face
>chafe
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>>175001262
>Also, what the heck is Tails saying with his attack?
Autistic kid noises.
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>>175001262
I think tails is say "STEADY"
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>>174999957
It made me super pissed that it did not unlock Metal Sonic Mode in which he is basically all three of the characters combined after doing Super Hard Mode.
The game just fucking ends after that leaving a sour taste in my mouth after I completed it I just went back to Sonic Adventure 2 (for the Gamecube) and got Green Hill Zone and I thought that was a much better reward for doing all the emblems and A ranks.
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>>175001835
>one character
>all abillites

That would've been very cool.
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Hey guys I'm currently freaking out in my bedroom just wanted to get my mind off what's happening to me. I was in my living room doing some cleaning and listening to music with my Amazon echo. Since I'm a huge loser there's some Sonic music on there. It Doesn't Matter 2014 came on and the second the whistle finished my front door slammed itself shut. I assumed it was just the wind so I got up and went to open it again. As soon as I stood up, two of my kitchen cabinets swung open. Now I'm sitting in my bedroom under the covers panicking while my echo is blasting the Sonic R soundtrack

What the fuck is going on
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>>175002696
there's no such thing as ghosts anon.
Everything can be explained through scientific means.
Man up, grab something blunt incase of intruders and go do some investigating!
Go! NOW!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpkHxVCP80k
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>>175002696
You have windows open in one room but not the other, and it's either hot or windy outside, right?
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>>175002696
You were warned about Tails Doll dude we told you!
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>>175002893
I have a metal curtain rod, pepper spray, and a cat who I'm sending in first. Wish me luck
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>>175003252
Go get 'em, Tiger!
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>>175002696
You can't let it get to you, you just gotta creep
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>>174990602
kek
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>>175002696
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>>174986378
Holy fuck it doesnt, do you have alzheimers?
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>>174997676
Favorite is between Megareth Fleet, Ultimate Final Boss and Special Boss.
I loved that game
>>174998707
Definitely.
>>174998854
Nothing against them. Brazillians made fucking Momodora and I loved slapping a giantess tits in Reverie.
Spark could have used more marketing though. I wouldn't have known about it if people here didn't meme about it being the best Sonic since Freedom Planet
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>>175004950
>Definitely.
>>174998854
>I sure hope so.
That is not a good thing.
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>>174991247
Wait, I thought they said it wasn't green hill?
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>>174998854
Can't find it. Sauce?
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Even with all it's problems and "fuck you"s to what made classic Sonic work I still really want this game, the fuck

Oh look more people posting my old fan art <3
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>>175003418
fucking nasty
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G-Guys...
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>>175005762
Woah...so this is the power of SEGA mandates.....not bad

Seriously though, this is why we have blobs.
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>>175005762
kek
there was an episode where someone steals his shoes, so poor Sanic can't run 'cause of the feet-friction or some crap.
That always put me off as a kid.
No way sonic has flesh-coloured feet.
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>>175005762
NO!
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>>174925685
when did people start noticing mighty again?
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Anyone else not like how generic Eggman's robots look in Forces?
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>>175006069
>there was an episode where someone steals his shoes, so poor Sanic can't run 'cause of the feet-friction or some crap.
Still better than a origin story where Sonic only got his powers through science, contradicting his 90's attitude and modern message.
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>>175005762
So that's what rat feet look like.
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>>175006971
Heroes still has the best Eggman robots design by far
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>>175006971
Its fine, they're Eggman Nega's robots.

R-right?
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https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/04/sonic-boom-fire-ice-concepts-found/
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>>175005194
Y not? At least we are getting something. Meanwhile, Megaman fans got nothing
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>>175005194
Oh god this image made me think of Tails Adventured remade in the same way as Wonder Boy
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>>175006395
He's always been a consistent presence in the comics, and whether people admit it or not that's seeped over into the game fanbase.
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>>175006971
Right here, part of me guesses he simplified their designs to make production faster
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The stupid not Green Hill Zone music is growing on me.
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Honestly I feel like Sega chose the simplified art style so they they could hit a rock solid 60fps across all platforms which in all honesty is the right move regardless.
Say what you will about Lost World but when they said they really wanted the game to run 60fps they were not wrong to go with the art style they did for that, also looks like its using the grass effect from that one flying level from LW
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>>175006971
They're supposed to be military-themed, to symbolize his larger conquest of the world. In fact, the concept of war and "parties going against each other" is the entire theme of Forces.
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Looks like Forces Green Hill has improved somewhat, eh? It looks like it'll be fun, at the very least.

>>174985752
>>174981663
>>175000926
Looks like you guys have been busy! There's going to be a new prototype for you to play on the Drive right now! Go get it!
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>>175004950
Spark the Electric Jester has a better Trailer then Freedom Planet.
No need for cringy Voice acting throughout.
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>>175007763
I think I figured out my problem with it. The song fits carnival/casino/whatever levels better.
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Can Green Hill Zone just fuck off out of this franchise now?
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>>175008024
Every video we've seen of the game so far seems to be from different build either due to different consoles or straight up optimization.
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>>175008024
Pic related suppose to happen?

>>175008590
"No."

- Takeshi Iizuka
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>>175008024
I love every aspect of it, except for two minor things: one, the hitbox for the Sonic statue is (I'm assuming intentionally) inaccurate, and two, Sonic comes to a complete stop when activating a Spin Dash when ideally he should have just a little tiny bit of momentum left over from running. Oh, and pressing the right bumper will play the "rolling" sound effect regardless of whether or not the player is actually rolling (i.e. standing still). Other than that, it's fantastic!
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>>175008741
That's what you get for wearing flip flops dummy
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>>175008694
How did you get that to happen? Can you recreate it?

>>175008765
Glad you're having fun! I'll work on those things. They should be minor issues.
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>>175008741
i hope the new character's a shota so that tails won't be the only character suitable for /ss/ in the whole series anymore
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>>175008945
Sally should be electrocuted having Nicole inside with her.
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>>175008024
I just thought about this project. How about different Metal and Mecha androids for exhibition?
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>MORE green hill A G A I N
>those muddy textures
>that sound they're passing off as music
I don't think I've ever dropped a game so fast before. All in on Mania now.
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>>175009234
Hard light =/= electricity
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>>175009309
>All in on Mania

But Mania has GHZ too
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>>175009243
Kinda' like Eggman's lab in Adventure? I like it. I always enjoy an excuse to make shiny shit.
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>>175009309
Yeah. I literally emailed Sonic Team earlier today to ask them if that was in fact the stage music because it's some of the worst shit I've ever heard. Sounds like a GBA game.
My fucking ears...
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>>175009309
Sounding worse is one thing, and you're right it does sound terrible, but LOOKING worse? How the fuck did they manage that?
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>>175009474
Well, one game is finished the other is not. And Green Hill actually looked better in the footage then last time.
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>>175009474
I firmly believe that Classic Sonic wasn't supposed to in the game.
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>>175009474
is forces coming to the switch? that may be the problem
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>>175009309
I was already probably not buying forces because I am so done with 3D in this franchise but as soon as I heard the music I instantly thought there was something wrong with my headphones. It literally sounds like Sonic 4 tier ear bleeding shit.
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>>175009474
Jesus Christ it's like night and day.
Even if they fixed the terrible textures, it still would have less detail than generations. What the fuck have they been doing?
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>>175009560
When Generations was shown off it's Green Hill still looked better. There is no excuse.
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Why can't they accept that they can't get Sonic to work in 3D and just stick to 2D? You don't even have to go full Classic, just have 2 parts: 2D Boost with modern aesthetics and what have you, and 2D Classic games
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I hope we get a new boosting game that doesnt have any other component or gameplay style in it, show that modern Sonic can do well on his own.
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>>175009404
>Sounds like a GBA game
Nigga that's an insult to the advance series. That series had some nice tunes.
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>>175007215
That's the only way this entire plot makes sense. Nega's always been a bigger threat and the more competent villain
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>>175009309
This.
I was on the edge about getting forces but that gameplay of green hill I just watched absolutely made it a NO GOOD.
And yeah the sound didn't help. Seriously they need to scrap that and start over.
I have no problem with them being creative with a track for green hill that isn't the usual tune, but this just sounds... no, just no.
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>>175009690
It's on all consoles. That my be why the graphics for Classic aren't as good as Modern's, but I still don't think it looked as bad.

>>175009769
You ever thought that Gens Green Hill was closer to finished when shown off compared to Forces?

Anyways, the footage was fine. I'm not hyped about Classic Sonic but he looks like he'll play decently. And the music is nowhere near as bad you guys are making it out to be.
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>>175008090
I actually liked that voice acting. Reminds me of some old cartoon with edgelords, Evul villains and cute heroines
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What are you guys talking about? I'm sure the music isn't that ba-
>listens to it
JESUS CHRIST MY EARS
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>>175009474
I was trying to stay moderately optimistic about Forces but holy this is insulting.
The only thing that could redeem this is Classic Sonic having way better control, which honestly isn't likely.
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This thread reminds me of the time when Sonic Stadium wrote an essay on how Sonic with a sword is a bad idea and how it will kill the franchise, just after seeing the teaser render for Black Knight and nothing else at the time.
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A couple of thoughts on the green hill controversy...

1. Seriously? AGAIN? I wasn't happy with it in Mania either but at least there it kind of makes sense because it's a return to form game.

2. Worst music track I've ever heard in a sonic game. Bar none. Worse than 4 episode 1 tier. Its so incredibly tinny, it actually makes me squint when listening to it.

3. This is where I'm going to defend it a bit: The visuals. Look at pic related. Look at the waterfall. It's just muddy brown, a solid texture. There's no way this level is finished yet, at least visually, so hold off on assaulting it there yet.
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>>175010529
It's a sand waterfall. This green hill has a desert in it. That texture might not be completely done, but that's the color of the waterfall.
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>>175010425
Yeah, but the differences is the more we get on Forces, the worst it seems to look.
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>tfw thought forces was going to be really fucking stupid the moment they revealed the name
>didn't get hyped at all and every extra bit of info they've given since then has only reinforced my first impressions
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Still more excited for Forces than I am Mania. Mania gives the the feeling of when they just port the original game for the hundredth time. Too many reused levels too.
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>>175009474
I hope no one's actually thinking about dropping Forces over this of all things. Forces GHZ doesn't look as good as Gens but it's not like it looks horrible, & the music isn't fucking awful like some people are making it out to be.

>>175010529
>Worst music track I've ever heard in a Sonic game. Bar none.

It's not good, but I would not call it the worst.

>>175010638
Literally the only thing about Forces that seems worse, is Classic Sonic's graphics.
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>>175010710
This alone didn't make me drop forces, but this was the final straw.
I'll get Mania and maybe pick up forces when it's $20.
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>>175010529
>Worst music track I've ever heard in a sonic game.
So you didn't play Chronicles or the Rivals games.
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>>175010529
See, I don't think that's meant to be a waterfall. That's meant to be sand.

Besides, no self respecting game devs would post an unfunished level for all to see.
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>>175010034
>>175009690
How powerful is the Switch exactly? Even if it's supposed to be stronger than the Wii U, the Wii U barely matched the PS3 and the X360. Knowing Nintendo, the Switch far weaker than they claim it to be.
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>>175010710
I was never getting forces at launch anyway.
I have the special edition of Mania pre ordered and that's all I need out of a good sonic game.

I might get forces down the line, but any more clips like they showed today, and maybe not even.
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>>175010908
The switch is basically equivalent to an overclocked Wii U in the same way that the Wii was equivalent to an overclocked Gamecube
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Can't they just fucking cancel Forces? It's gonna be an 06 tier trainwreck from the looks of things
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>>175010835
Then what else made you drop Forces? Because Modern Sonic looks great, Classic Sonic's gameplay looks fine & the story seems good. Unless you've never liked Boost, the only downside I see to Forces is the graphics for Green Hill, & even then, the game is still unfinished.

>>175010908
IIRC, it's still pretty far behind the Xbox One & PS4.

>>175011014
Based on what makes you think it's gonna be as much of a mess as 06?
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Anything can happen, but as of now I am NOT getting forces, at least at launch. That green hill gameplay was the final nail in the coffin. Maybe some other clips can turn it around tho.
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>tfw you're the only person on the face of this godless planet who likes most 3D Sonic games and have to sit quietly and listen to large groups of people disown them with every new scrap of news, slowly going insane
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>>175011014
>Overreacting this much
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>>175011072
>Based on what makes you think it's gonna be as much of a mess as 06?
The Classic gameplay, the "mysterious 3rd character", more serious plot, and likelihood of time travel, all of which were cornerstones of 06
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>>175010710
>>175010861
IMO, having a bad track in a fucking Sonic game is a huge red flag because it's the one fucking thing that's consistently good about this franchise. At least when it comes to the games directly made by Sonic Team anyways.

The fact that we have a bad song in a MAINLINE GAME is terrifying when even 06 had some nice music in it.
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>>175011140
>caring about what other people think on an anonymous image board to the extent that you have to post your feelings about it just in hope of reassurance
This place isn't for you
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>>175011140
Got a friend in me pal.
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>>175011196
06 honestly had one of the best music in the franchise.
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>>175010908
This Switch is closer Docked to the Xbox One than the Xbox 360 and to top it off its generally considered an easier system to work develop for due to Nvidia.
Its hard to pin down exactly what Nintendo and Nvidia did to make it run well since it can run games better than the shield can, I assume it has to due to it supporting more API's than any other console.
Either way Sonic isn't a game that could bring a console to its knees since its not even a visually demanding game.
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>>175011140
Nah, I feel that way too
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>>175011072
>Modern sonic looks great
Looks like more linear boost to win shit to me. I needed classic to come through and instead it gave me a deaf left ear.
So no, I'm not getting the game. Don't let that stop you if you like it though, but I'm not surprised to see eerily so many others speaking out against what they showed today.
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Postin' on imgur just in case. http://imgur.com/a/3mZuj

It's a MYSTERY.
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>>175011175
So you're retarded.
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>>175011239
You and I have Negative-Zone-levels of opposite opinions on what this website is about my friend
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>>175011351
This is objectively false. The switch struggles to hit 900p with games like Zelda at 30fps. The Xbone is underpowered but can still easily overdo tuat
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>>175011140
>tfw me too
Add one more to that list. jesus christ this fandom.
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>>175011414
If you honestly believe 4chan is about affirming opinions, you're either super new or out of touch
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>>175011140
I like most of the 3D games too, desu. And right now, I see no reason to overreact as much as people are right now.

>>175011175
>The Classic gameplay

The worst part about Classic's gameplay is that it looks to be no better than decent. And it being decent already makes it better than anything in 06.

>more serious plot

Which has been said will be nowhere near as edgy as 06 or Shadow.

>and likelihood of time travel

Which is speculation & nothing more.

>>175011360
>boost to win

This isn't a complaint at you, but I never understood this argument. That's like complaining about most Sonic games being "run to win."
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>>175011437
Halo 5 a linear as fuck game can't even run 1080p 60fps locked.
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>>175011406
This is near identical to what was happening around the time we got more and more info on 06, especially in regards to a "more serious" plot. I thought they learned their lesson about that shit after 06 but I guess not
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>>175011140
There's a few of you to be sure. Definitely a small minority though. Don't worry about umit. Enjoy what you like.
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>>175011437
>The switch struggles to hit 900p with games like Zelda at 30fps.
Somthing related to other technical aspects of the Switch. I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it. They clearly rushed the Switch out for Zelda.
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>>175011196
oh god. forces will be the new 06 and 06 will soon be considered "not that bad" which will be fucking incredible
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>>175011521
>Halo 5 a linear as fuck game
Its actually the most opened up hali game by far. Try again.
>can't even run 1080p 60fps locked.
It averages at 900p in multiplayer and 860p in campaign. Never drops below 60. Try again.
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>>175011140
I personally enjoyed every mainline 2D and 3D Sonic (except 06 which I haven't played, and Shadow the Hedgehog is boring).
I even managed to eke some fun out of Lost World, and from what I've seen from Forces up to now it looks like something I will enjoy playing after finishing up Mania. Feels good man
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>>175011437
>The switch struggles to hit 900p with games like Zelda at 30fps
I've heard they fixed it with performance patches.
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>>175011657
You're joking, Halo 5 is the least open Halo game by a mile, all it has are town sections that mask loading.
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>>175011707
>>175011140
What's it like living without any sort of standards or critical judgement?
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>Forces hype builds for months and months
>They finally release some gameplay
>it looks like complete shit
Welp. Scratch that one off the list.
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So is this gonna happen anytime something that's merely okay or meh about Forces comes out? People overreact, flip their shit, claim they're "dropping the game," & people shout "THIS IS THE NEXT SONIC 06" over & over again?

I'm now beginning to get why SEGA doesn't listen to us.
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>>175009121
I just Homing Attacked the ring boxes underneath. Not entirely sure what happened.
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>>175011743
>You're joking, Halo 5 is the least open Halo game by a mile, all it has are town sections that mask loading.
For the record, Halo 5 is by far my least favorite Halo game. IMO it's a 6/10 at best, but I don't see what you're saying. They opened up the levels a shit load.
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>>175011808
Honestly, Sonic can't afford to be mediocre anymore.
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>>175011405
gave me some hearty keks. good job mate
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>>175011808
>being this butthurt that people disagree with you
How do you ever expect to get through real life?
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>>175011808
>I'm now beginning to get why SEGA doesn't listen to us.
But listing to us us why we got Classic Sonic and Green Hill Zone again.
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I want Amy to show midriff in the next Olympic Game!
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>People kept on saying that classic's music is shit
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>>175011808
People are overreacting for sure, but if you honestly like what you saw today.. well, uh, good for you?
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>>175011808
Sega should've never made the fans seem like they mattered. What they need to do is stop listening to the whiny, entitled crybabies that bitch about everything they do
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>>175011935
I want Amy to show her midriff to Sonic.
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>>175011808
This is a huge fucking step down from Generations. And even Generations had a lot of flaws. I'm sorry, I was optimistic at first, I really was. But Green Hill looks like fucking shit and it's making me legitimately worried.
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>>175012010
On this we are agreed.
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>>175011846
Not at all, none of the levels come close to how massive some of the levels from 1 and 3 were.
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>>175011808
Welcome to /sthg/!
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I'd honestly be defending 06 right now, but the fact that it's such a glitchy mess with a fuckton of loading screens makes it unacceptable. I'd look like an autistic retard if I defended it. Which is sad because I like the story and the music
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>>175011884
The only thing that's mediocre about Forces so far (imo) has been Classic's gameplay. Everything else looks good.

>>175011915
It's fine if people don't care about Forces, but what annoys me are people shouting "THIS IS THE NEXT SONIC 06" at every piece of news. At worse, Forces looks like it's gonna be a good game instead of a fantastic game, not the next worst game in the series.
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>>175011774
Pleasant seeing as how I actually DO have standards and critical judgement that are just different from yours. You see, unlike most people, I don't have the time nor the energy to scream at faceless corporations demanding absolute pristine perfection with every minute detail because I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and what others may call trash I'm allowed to call decent as long as I have a logical reason.
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>I think green hill in forces looks better aesthetically than green hill in generations
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>>175012170
>Acting holier than thou about the fact you have no standards and will eat whatever shit is fed to you
Autism
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I'm going to be blunt about it: I'm a classicfag. I'm not a moderate nor will I ever pretend to be. I enjoy genesis/Cd/Saturn-esque, sprite-based sonic in a 2D setting only. I have a huge bias and do not think the franchise has translated well to 3D even once.

That being said, I'm not ignorant about it. I understand people do like the boost games. And so I have to wonder, why does Sega insist on cramming classic sonic and his gameplay into them? I'm sure boostfags would enjoy a game catering 100% to their own interests just in the same way I don't want 3D gameplay in Mania.
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>>175011774
I should clarify, I found at least a few things to enjoy about each game. In hindsight I would say Lost World is the worst out of the games I have played. I liked the music but the controls really did suck ass.
I will play through any Modern game at least once or twice but they don't have nearly as much replay value as the Classic games.
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>>175011140
I like both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgSO8_cRio

People can bitch and moan about the games themselves but I honestly follow by:Try the game out when released then have my own final thoughts about it.

No amount of people bickering about titles waver me from trying a Sonic title in the past and neither will it start now.
Keep your bitching up Salty Sonic fans.
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>>175012240
>Holier than thou
Yeah, fuck me for explaining why I don't care about your standards, I am such an asshole.
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>>175012083
Halo 3 is a 4 hour campaign. It's short as fuck.
Yes, CE is big, but it also reuses the entire first half of the campaign in the second half.
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>tfw have no strong feelings about the music
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>>175012287
A classicfag that isn't blinded by his own nostalgia??? Quick, don't scare him off! They're extremely rare!!!
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>>175012287
Boost needs classic because one, boost is too short to have a game to be purely boost. And two; it's way too shallow.
The boost gameplay in inherently flawed so it needs a gimmick to stand on.
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>>175012287
Because the Sonic Team of today is mind numbingly stupid and retarded. I honestly want the person who brought Classic Sonic back to be beaten senseless.
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>>175012556
Sonic's never had deep gameplay. It's always been hidden by gimmicks
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>>175012287
Probably a combo of them not thinking boost can carry a game alone and trying to please multiple groups in the fanbase.

IIRC, Mania wasn't even thought of when Forces started development, so Classic was probably already locked in when it was greenlighted.
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>>175012138
>The only thing that's mediocre about Forces so far is half the game
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>>175012591
But anon, I love you!
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Sonic could be much worse
https://youtu.be/_8dRZ3atLW8
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>>174945259
I know I'm really late replying to this but
>awful soundtrack having
fuck you

Say what you will about the gameplay but if you don't think Lava Powerhouse's music is the tightest shit you can fuck right off.
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>>175012662
I was just going to say this.
It's the unleashed excuse all over again, and just like unleashed it assumes you like the boost gameplay to begin with.
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>>175012287
They're repeating the Generations formula because they saw a link between success and Classic Sonic, except they didn't take into account that Mania entering the equation in 2015 would eventually make Sonic Team's offering look mediocre in comparison.
I do wonder how people would have reacted to GHZ if Mania hadn't existed at all.
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>>175012662
More like a third. We haven't seen create-a-furry's gameplay yet.
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>>175012648
This was only really a problem in the 3D games.
True, the speed and physics of the classics is still technically a gimmick, but it's built into the gameplay itself.
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>>175007126
>Worthless consumer models
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>>175012215
It honestly doesn't look too bad. Now that I think about it, the less detailed look compared to Gens is probably because of what Iizuka mentioned in another interview: In that Forces is gonna look like a mix of Lost World & Generations. But it still looks good & it'll most likely look even better when the game is released.

>>175012287
I personally enjoy all Sonics. Boost, Adventure & Classic, I love all three equally. And yeah, Classic in Forces is completely unneeded. Not because of Mania because the game had been in development for a year+ when Mania was thought of, but because we've just had a game with Modern & Classic Sonic.

>>175012662
You mean one third of the game.
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>>175012556
Colors handled having one gameplay style well.
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>>175011808
it's sega's own fault. they know anything they make will picked apart and may or may not have shown unfinished work. plus this >>175011884
. Sonic is the rival to Mario and yet every other game is a coin flip on its quality. Sega and Sonic Team need to step it up now that Mania is a thing


>>175012556
>boost games would be too short
well then charge less money for it and people would complain less. but they won't fucking do. gotta charge 60 bucks or else "muh profit"
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>>175012747
Every time someone shits on spinball music it's just a reference to the options menu
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>>174980163
>That music
Jesus Christ Sega what are you doing
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>>175011405
It's boobs
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>>175012793
Unless it's Adventure-styled, it'll most likely be shit.
Actually, it might just be shit even if it's Adventure-styled.
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Why didn't they use the Green Hill song for Green Hill?
https://youtu.be/apMzngS4nv4
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>>175012859
>Sonic is the rival to Mario

That hasn't been the case since the Dreamcast.
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>One of Sonic's biggest quirks is the bombass music.
>Sega is fucking that up even more now.

They just CANNOT do anything right.
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>>175012851
Nah, Colors had the Wisps, which I honestly hate worse than both Classic Sonic and the Werehog combined. It was also 75% 2D.
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>>175012909
But what if it just...more pink.
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>>175006971
Yeah, that's annoying, but I just can't imagine them doing that for no reason, so I'm waiting a bit before I complain about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sngfdOyK-0
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>>175012956
Don't they have to pay a dude to use Green Hill's music?
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>>175012956
They should have used Sonic 2 Green Hills desu
https://youtu.be/-N--kDI8M7A
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>>175011405
Great job Yoto
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>>175013161
>Thread theme.
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I'm also going to be blunt about it; I'm a adventure fag. I enjoy Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, Shadow and 06. I have a huge bias and think games like Colors, Lost World and Boom are horrible, horrible games that truly show Sonic Team has lost its way after 06. Though I'm indifferent to the classics.

Forces being a boost styled game, with Lost World aesthetics and including Classic Sonic while fucking mania exists, truly shows how absolutely fucking retarded the Sonic Team of today is now. They're literally flinging shit at us and hoping it works and that we eat it up.
Their decisions are so fucking stupid I noticed some people are literally appalled at what they're doing.
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>>175013161
>Japanese OST
Dropped
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>>175013282
Ok then. Simply don't buy it if you think so. Case Closed. If its the case then others would do the same.
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>>175013282
>I'm also going to be blunt about it; I'm a adventure fag.
At least you're up front about the fact your opinions are not worth listening to
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>>175013404
That's not how market business works. It's not like we have the option to buy a different 3D sonic product.
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>>175013379
The American Soundtrack has like three memorable songs tops.
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>>175013467
Could be worse. He could be a boostfag.
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>>175013161
>>175013278
We truly are in the Bad Future.
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>>175013560
Nah, at least they have good games. Adventurecucks don't
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>>175013473
Then shut up and eat what you are delivered. If not deal with it and not buy it and wait for another or play fan made stuff.
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>Time for Sonic fans to fling shit at each other over their favorite Sonic
>tfw think all Sonics are good & still look forward to Mania & Forces

Feels good. Is GHPAnon still around? I wanna know how the game is coming along.
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>>175012126
Nobody shits on 06 for the music.
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>>175013753
>MFW I feel the same way
People sure get all butthurt for some reason and here I am with no care in the world.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/chemicalplantzone/
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>>175013753
Missed pic*
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>>175013524
TT Present, WW Present, SS Good Future are good, the rest is forgettable
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>>175013467
YOUR opinions are not worth listening too. Classic games are overrated and Boost games with the exception of Unleashed and MAYBE Generations fucking suuuuuuuuck
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>>175011827
Very odd...

>>175013753
Right here, bro. I hope you liked the latest version.

So now that level design is starting to get underway, I'd like to finally start looking at visuals as well. I'd like to try to iron out a color palette as well as a visual style.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12826540

I'll let this poll go for a half hour.
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I'd probably like Forces more if Mania wasn't a thing.
In comparison Forces just looks fucking embarrassing.
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>>175013081
Pink balloons
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>>175013938
I think the Adventure games are fine but you can only say so much before you start to sound purposefully contrarian.
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>>175013524
4U
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>>175014131
I want to squeeze Amy's pink balloons!
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>>175013721
>or play fan made stuff.
That's precisely what the majority of the base will be doing actually.
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>>175013938
Like I said, not worth listening to. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, and it's certainly hit you hard
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I'm going to be blunt about it. I'm a draw fag. I enjoy drawing all the mainline sonic characters and even some of the newer ones. I have a huge bias against characters from spinoffs or other non-canon material.

Having girls like Sally Acorn and Madonna when Amy already exists truly shows how shit the taste of the general is. They're literally flinging tits at us thinking we'll forget about the panty shots.

I mean I love Blaze and Rouge, but why do they have to keep shoving Cream into it? Forcing a Sonic lewd with loli aesthetics and including cream when fucking classic Amy exists, truly shows how absolutely fucking retarded the doujin industry of today is now. They just keep flinging waifus at us and hoping that we eat it up.
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>>175014560
>nostalgia is a hell of a drug
The Genesis trilogy is objectively better than any boost game
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>>175014563
yoto pls
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>>175014513
99 pink balloons. Floating in the summer sky
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>>175014602
No one's denying that.
But you'd also be wrong if you said that the Adventure Games are the best.
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>>175014563
I agree.
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>>175014705
This
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>>174972797
Shit, it really does. Mario and Sonic games from the early 6th gen just scream summer in my mind for some reason. They're all about beaches and tropical islands and shit.
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>>175012287
>>175013282
>>175014563
>>175014760
Is this becoming a new copypasta?
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>>175014563
This guy gets it.
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I'm going to be blunt about it. I've never played a sonic game before, but I love how autistic your fanbase is. I have thought of picking up the ultimate genesis collection to try things out but why bother? The SNES was so much better it's not even funny. God Sega got raped so fucking hard.

That being said, I like the porn, especially the bat girl. She's pretty hot, especially when you guys make her get captured and be all submissive and stuff. Keep up the good work, drawfags.
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>>175014376
I think if classic and boost fags can run their mouths about their shit games, then I can too.

>>175014560
You're such a hypocritical bastard. An adventure fag is blinded by nostalgia but a classic fag isn't? Backwards ass logic. Also it isn't even nostalgia, I just honest to god think games like Heroes are well made games
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>>175014760
>>175015019
>>175014563
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I like Sonic because I jump on things, they go boop and it's fun.
I guess I'm in the minority with that though.
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>>174980163
This is just sad.
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>>175015169
>liking Sonic

Nerd.
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>>175015102
>, I just honest to god think games like Heroes are well made games
Like I said again, your opinions aren't worth listening to
>Classic
>Shit
Coming from a cuck who likes an edgy black recolor, that's hilarious
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>>175015169
While I enjoy your enthusiasm, I feel a need to inform you that if that's all you want, there are many other game series and franchises that can satisfy that desire.
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>>175015102
>I just honest to god think games like Heroes are well made games
SA2 is my favourite Sonic game but Heroes is absolute fucking trash my man.
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I'm going to be blunt about it. I'm an Eggmanfag. He's objectively the best character in this entire series and puts any of your shitty waifus to shame. The only time he's seriously bad is in 06.

That being said, Gamma and Heroes Omega are based and Adventure-era Knuckles was pretty nice.
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>>175015169
Look at this geek.

Also fuck y'all, Heroes was fun.
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>>175015529
You are 1000% correct
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>mfw I just got here from work
>mfw I still haven't gotten mad yet
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>>175015723
I'm not mad. Just disappointed.
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>>174980163
Looks pretty good to me. No better than Generations, but not worst.
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>>175015430
Heroes is one of the most polished, focused, consistent and well made Sonic games out there. If you don't like it that's fine, but you also have to admit that you're a parasitic piece of shit that only sticks around to shit post about the series
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So we are all in agreement that Sonic was never good, right? The classic gameplay was passable and uninteresting (seriously, Ristar is a better platformer than Sonic 1-3), the Adventure gameplay was a hot mess that tried to be classic in 3D and failed, and the boost gameplay makes the game play itself.

We all agree that Mania is just nostalgic pandering with a majority of the levels being tired rehashes (if you really want to go play Flying Battery, go play S&K on an emulator or some shit), while Forces is taking the inherently flawed Boost gameplay, and is adding the classic gameplay from Generations, which somehow looks even worse this time around, and some 3rd option that will most likely suck and will probably be about that new friend that will be added and forgotten about after the game is released. This is despite them having a selection of characters to make relevant again.

I know all of that may seem like bait or overly critical, but it's the truth. I used to be a big fan of this franchise like all of you, but after years and years of dissapointments left and right and some deep self relflection, I realized that this game series wasn't really all that great or good to begin with. It kinda has always sucked. So I let it go and moved on to better things.

I don't know what I, or all of you, were expecting. Sonic Team and SEGA aren't going to give you what you truely want, and never will, because they are either too incompetent, don't care or both. It's gotten to the point where amateurs can make better games than the "professionals". If what they are doing right now pleases you, then more power to ya, bud. I sincerely hope you have the time of your life with these games. But as far as I am concerned, this whole series is a gigantic waste of time.
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>>175016042
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>>174980862
Games like Metal Gear use contrasting tones to make each scene more hard hitting.
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>>175015978
>Heroes is one of the most polished, focused, consistent and well made Sonic games out there.
Nigga you best be baiting, here's your (You)
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>>175016426
You can't even provide a solid, well thought out argument as to how I'm wrong, all you can say is "DURRRRR HE'S BAITING". You faggots are pathetic.
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>>175015529
I wished it was Zavok or Zomom taking 40 cakes.
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>>175015403
Other platformers don't have Sonic's edge in presentation (cool music and visuals) and spectacle though.

I just like platformers in general. Give me a mediocore licensed platformer, and I can have fun with it. But Sonic has style and that's why I keep coming back, plus I love the cast. I even get a kick out of returning to 06 once in a while.
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I'm going to be blunt about this: I'm a storyfag. I enjoyed the Adventure era and the (good) Archie comics. I liked previous games' events mattering in the next and seeing the varied character interactions. The gameplay (classic, adventure or boost) was too shallow to really motivate me to play them by itself. The last game I've played was Unleashed and even then I didn't complete it because I was bored.

I've hated how the recent trend on the games were to go barebones when it came to the story and characters just because everyone was too traumatized with 06. I was hoping Forces would change that but while it looks like it'll have more meat when it comes to the story, the fact that they shoved Classic Sonic AND a brand new character (that'll likely be gone after this game) have me doubting this. That's two playstyles and spotlights that could have gone to more popular characters who have been relegated to cheerleader status for too long.
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>>175016367
Why is the rat sad?
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>>175016732
He saw how unhappy his fans are.
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>playing Sonic
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>>175016542
Says the Heroes fan
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>>175016732
He isn't. He's just feeling for his contact lenses.
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>>175016673
>Storyfag
Go read a book if you want a story. This is a fucking video game, and if you don't like that fact, you're not a true Sonic fan
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>>175016996
It's a bait copypasta. Don't respond.
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>>175016996
>Responding seriously to a copypasta
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>>174980163
After watching this at home, I'm a bit disappointed. It's not terrible and it's not the end of the world, but it's still rough around the edges and the music is no good. I'm left still wishing they would just break this cycle of uneasiness and release something that would make us feel that they know what they're doing so that we can get excited again without looking over our shoulders and fearing what might come next.

Also, I was fucking right >>174944239
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>>174982165
It just looks like Sonic CD's kind of physics to me desu
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>>175016996
>video games don't need a story

Get with the times grandpa.
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>>175013197
that's even more gay
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>>174984614
in the 70s, like Sonic Colors and Generations

that's the ceiling for the 3D games these days, and rightfully so
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>>175017258
Sonic CD has almost identical physics to Sonic 1 and 2, it's the level design and collision detection that make it seem janky in comparison.
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>>174944239
>>175017217
Oh shit. This anon can solve the meme man's clues.
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>>175017362
How dare you.
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Since everyone appears to be shitflinging I'm just gonna throw this controversial thing out there: I want another 3D Boom game.
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>>174981234
It feels like there's another hidden ability. Sometimes Sonic would just drop to the ground pretty fast, and judging by how sometimes when a robot is destroyed he bounces on it and other times he does that, I feel like it can be somehow controlled. Just a guess, though.
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>>175017478
I want Sonic Adventue 3 to be a Boom game. I'm not kidding.
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>>175017478
That's not really controversial. If the game ends up being good, then why not have another Sonic Boom game?
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Pretty overwhelming results, guys! A brighter aesthetic with some realistic elements. Sounds great.

Now, what I'd like you guys to do is hop on Textures.com, or whatever other texture site you like and find some floor textures. Post your favorites! We're likely going to be using a few, given the various exhibits. Remember that any aspect of these textures can be changed from color, brightness, contrast, etc.
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Would it be a good idea for Sonic Twitter to post a silhouette of the new character one day with the shoes uncovered just to fuel speculation?
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>>175016875
There's nothing wrong with liking Heroes. There is something wrong about being a piece of shit who can't formulate his own opinions and only calls games bad because other people think its bad
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>the music is no good
If you say so...
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>>174988183
>>174988571
We were given a lackluster preview, and people are reacting accordingly. Boo hoo, better get those straw man arguments out to protect a game that hasn't come out yet, right?
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>>175017610
I wouldn't even be mad if that's the only way for use to get an "Adventure 3", it seems fitting for the Boom series.
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>>175017478
Me too anon.
After F&I I feel like Sanzaru should take a crack at trying to make a 3d Boom game.
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>>175017675
>mememan just posts a picture with a bunch of shoes
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>>175017782
>Responding to my comment 6 hours later
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>>175017953
What are you talking about? He looks perfectly fine.
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>>175017780
>>175017953
I don't know, I'm actually digging the look of GHZ much more here.
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>>175017914
I'm going to respond to this comment in 12 hours see how you like it then
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>>175017914
Well, yeah, it's not like your post got less stupid in that time.
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>>175017856
Rise of Lyric feels like it tried, but it sucked for various reasons.

I'd love to see a great Boom game.
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>>175017780
Well at least this shows that this pic >>174949193 is now outdated.
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>>175018045
>>175018045
>>175018045
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>>175017752
I actually played the game, it's hot fucking shit. I'm sorry that your childhood game is garbage, but it is
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>>175018001
I will be Iasleep
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>>175018056
I'm thankful for that much, at least.
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>>175016342
Maybe so. I admit that I'm a prick, but you cant deny the fact that things aren't looking so good right now. And I doubt its ever going to change, considering this is Sonic Team we are talking about.

Honestly, I'm trying to be as pessimistic about all this as humanly possible. That way, if the games are bad, I wont be let down like before. But if they are good, then I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Been awhile since I dropped by this general

Last time I was here Archie pulled the comics off of their website. Is the comic done for now, or what? What happened with that?
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>>175018306
We will be getting news sometime this week or something.
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>>175018048
Like I have any time to be trolling /sthg/ during finals week

:^)
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>>175018306
Archie is supposedly sending an update later this month. Many believe it's going to be a notice to subscribers that it's cancelled.
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>>175018306
Archie may be sending some news this week. The final issue of Megadrive & two issues of the regular comics have been listed as cancelled & four Universe issues are set to be re-solicited.
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>>175011140
Same
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>>174980163
Holy shit.

Blunder of the fucking millennium
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>>174980163
Looks alright, kinda wish the music was a bit longer though. It's not bad but just doesn't seem to fit Green Hill
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>>175011140
>2D Sonics get two fangames
>3D Sonics got nothing
It's not faaair!
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>>175012126
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7y91JPtx9gI

This is where I learned 06's story from. If it was like that, didn't seem that bad to me.
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>>175012126
>like the story
Get out.

>and the music
So does literally everyone else.
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>>175021485
SRB2
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>>175006395
He's an enjoyable character within the comics, and my love for him there has made me want to see him in the games.
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Hey, /sthg/ BumpHack Anon here. Finally got around to tracking down the assembly source used to make the rom hack for anyone interested in it.

Some notes:

This uses an older Assembly split so a lot of the files are unlabeled.

The run animation is currently set to the same frames as the walk animation in the sonic.asm file in the _anims folder.

In order to reactivate it, replace the line that reads:
"SonAni_Run: dc.b $FF, 8, 9, $A, $B, 6, 7, $FF"

With:
"SonAni_Run: dc.b $FF, $1E, $1F, $20, $21, $FF, $FF, $FF"


However be warned that this will result in the game defaulting to Sonic's default run sprites, with Bump's palette.... because I never got around to making her a real run animation.

Anyway if people want to collab on making a bigger, better Bump in Sonic 1 hack I'm down. Or if someone wants to just take the source and finish it themselves that's cool too.

http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html
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>>175017641
>11 votes
That's not exactly overwhelming
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>>175023691
My body is ready.
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>>174980163
Looks a lot better than the previous footage, but still a step down from Generations. It looks like it will be generally fun to play, and later levels should definitely be more interesting, but it's still way too square and blocky. Is there someone working on this game that has never played Genesis Sonic, and thinks:

>classic = pixels
>pixels = square
>make everything square

The music's pretty good, and I'm really glad it's an original tune. The instruments are a little weird, but the melody is excellent.
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