/ndg/ - NieR/Drakengard General #68

In my head's cannon, 2B is my gf

Hey, at least we almost had the perfect video game ending, guys.

Looking forward to more pointless conjecture.

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Reminder that Toobie is very smol an that her butt is less large than a normal woman's

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>>174834506
fanboy tears. delic! <3

>>174834506
The game's ending hasn't changed.

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I want Commander to fuck me while moaning "Glory to Mankind"

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>>174834618
STFU faggot, ending E was perfect,2B9S is the best couple, get the fuck out of here

>>174834649
Only its entire underlying message was apparently destroyed.
What a shame.

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>>174834423
It's CANON.

CANON
A
N
O
N

One of the most common but fucking stupidest mistakes. It's the "could of" of narratives.

This general turned to absolute trash and the downtime between threads proves it.

I just finished the game and answered "Yes" to the final question. Then I realized there will be DLC. Was this a trap? Do I have to start the level and weapon material grind again if I want to play it?
Also, thanks whitestardust_2, if you're here.

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Hopefully the crybabies left.

>>174834809
well you can thank taro for this apparently

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>>174834770
mhmh motto motto! <3

>>174834506
>>174834618
>>174834771
>>174834958
I literally just finished up the last route of the game and came here for some discussion now im all spoiled, what are you talking about?

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>>174834809
What happened? I missed everything from last thread

>>174835045
Leave and don't come back

>>174834886

Yep.

But don't worry, it looks like the arena stuff in the DLC is going to be badly designed given the recommended level stuff.

You're either gonna be starting a new file because you deleted your save and be too low level without completing the game again, or you'll be overlevelled for everything but the highest rank stuff.

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>>174835045
Some vague not really confirmed and out of context spoilers from the concert script got out in Japanese and retards went into screeching mode because it's better to shout now than to just wait and see and then react.

>>174835063
9S fangirls are being hormonal over an unconfirmed addition post ending E.

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>tfw i have no idea what the fuck is going on with the plot of this game

Maybe I'm just a brainlet but it feels kingdom-hearts tier to me.

>>174835116
I might just do that

>>174835240
>>174835257
Mind sharing the info, or pointing in me in the direction of it?

>>174834809
It was only like 2 minutes, I started this one and it was my first time posting a general, didnt knew if I had to wait more

>your thinking about how much you want to fuck 2B aren't you
Holy shit my game became self aware guys.

>the plot turns into something like
>when ever 9S "falls in love" with 2B
>2B triggers 2E and kills 9S
>this will always repeat everytime

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lol easy allies faggot censored comments and ratings on their LP

>>174835449
Are there actually people like this coming to a spoiler filled thread to livetweet their experience of the game at the risk of ruining stuff for themselves?

Does this happen?

>>174835369
9S wont wake up. That. Now go and cry in a corner like I did all the fucking day

>>174835369
There's a link to the previous thread in the OP, where you can basically read the posts as stuff was breaking. Otherwise, there's also a compilation thread on the subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/6729ys/spoilers_new_2b9s_information_from_nier_concert/

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>>174835045
long story short
there will be a nier concert in ~1.5 weeks coupled with a stage performance
someone got the script
there's a ton of actually interesting and confirmed new info about 2B/9S that makes their love story only better
but apparently Taro decided to be a jackass and follow on ending E when it should be left absolutely alone
there's no confirmed spoilers for that part of a stage play that will concern E ending aside from possibility of 9S never waking up which completely fucks over collective effort of players to give a new chance to all characters and also makes zero sense lore-wise, directly contradicting ending E where pods directly state that they got all memories

but, i repeat, nothing about the post-E is confirmed because all info comes from 2ch and could as well be a simple spoiler hyseria, but the fact Taro actually decided to follow on E is immensely disappointing by itself

>>174832748
Yeah I think what you are describing is a lot closer to reader-response, which is actually a bit more contemporary and really just as interesting as structuralism.

The example

>I like her cooking

Seems simple, but can have different meanings. Could mean you enjoy the food she makes. Or could mean you like it when she's in the kitchen. Could feasibly even mean you like roasting her on a spitfire.

Traditionally the explanation as to why people understand the correct meaning is through intention. Somehow you just naturally can understand the intent of the speaker.

Structuralists criticize this explanation as being vague and possibly relying on some kind of metaphysics since intent is something intangible and unknowable. Rather they say meaning is simply derived from the structure, or context of the situation. So if you say I like her cooking, and you're currently eating something she made then you understand it that way. Or if she's currently cooking then you under stand it that way. Or if she's burning... you get it. So meaning can only be understood in relation to the context or structure in which it occurs.

It's simple stuff at base, but you can see how the focus on intent would lead to an author focused analysis, and how structuralism would reject that as not even a valid source of meaning, preferring to focus on the structural relations of the work itself. It would actually be somewhat self-defeating for a structuralist to try and posit their own interpretation as a reader because that would just be falling back on the notion that you could understand the 'intent' of their reading. For instance, Derrida would not even say that he deconstructed a text, but rather that the text 'deconstructed itself', just to make the point that it wasn't just 'his' reading but was inherent in the text itself.

>>174835369
Its just a bunch of rumors and pictures of pages from the script, except conveniently no pictures of the part everyone is pissy over. Apparently 9S doesn't wake up after ending E and melodramatic retards claim this somehow ruins everything.

>>174835449
http://www.strawpoll.me/12813189

Given the context given later in the game, me and my friend have talked about what the question actually was, so yeah. Voice your understanding of it.

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>>174835063
Apparently 9S never wakes up in Ending E. Japs who went to the concert haven't scanned/taken pics of the script ending, so we don't know if it's true.

What even was the point of the soul box

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>inb4 Taro will force everyone to sing the end of yorha to wake him up when all hope was seemingly lost

>>174835806
One of the options doesn't make sense at that point in the story. You fags need to realize that sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.

>>174835651
>>174835628
Huh. Thanks for the info, this doesn't really break me all that much desu, I would assume people are overreacting. If it were something that important, I doubt they'd leave it out of the game.

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>>174836145
People seem to read into things just to get angry.

>>174836145
>If it were something that important, I doubt they'd leave it out of the game.
the whole problem that it's Taro we're talking about
but this seems like a complete nonsense that straight goes against the game's lore because 9S had more chances of dying at the end of A/B than when pods have all his fucking memories and his body

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yall need to relax. give the man the benefit of the doubt and lets wait and see what happens before we collectively reeee at him

Somewhere far away Taro laughs maniacally, being happy that he will get a fair share of shekels from the concert after he personally leaked incomplete spoilers on 2ch.

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Could you guys explain me this quest from this cutscene where you have to grab some items from various parts of the map. I can't find anything on the wikia.

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>>174835578
>YoRHa combat data is the emotional bonds formed by androids in combat
>research to figure out how to love
>research to give their lives meaning

I've heard conflicting shit.

Is the Emil in the truck/the one you interact with the real Emil or no? I'm assuming he's a clone.

>>174835839
Was 2ch demanding proof from the people who claimed this shit, or did they just accept it blindly, or blow it off?

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Aside from the whole clusterfuck with E ending, new flashback spoilers about 2B and 9S are so tragic yet heartwarming it hurts.
>153 is a traitor
>9S either figures shit out even faster than we think or outright knows shit across incarnations
>he's in such a love with 2B he doesn't resist being killed or straight commences suicide just so she won't have to suffer more
>2B is chosen for this job because A2 showed high performance under extreme pressure yet she admits she can't handle this job and has a feeling to 9S she can't describe by herself

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>>174837647
He's the true one.

>>174837721
So the true Emil is permanently dead now?

>>174837850
Yes, and thank god for that, poor dude didn't deserve this.

>>174836061

9s knew about it before the game starts

>>174837950
Sure.

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>>174837890
Yeah but there's still a bunch of Emil clones that still have portions of his memory or will recover his memory, and there are new clones being made. So his suffering still continues.

>>174837950
YoRHa was created by the machines too.
Machine cores are based on Gestalts.
2B is a reindeer.

>>174838253
>>174838040

>>174837698

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>>174837657
They are greatly confused from what i saw.
There's no confirmation for the spoilers. We know about one person who has the script but he's an asshole and keeps silent about that part. There's no screenshots of that ending aside from one that directly fucking states that 2B actually hears 9S' voice.

All around, i think Taro just wants to tie this with entire auditory performing Weight of the World so that 2B's voice can reach 9S. If he actually pulls this out, this concert will end up being fourth wall breaker the size of E ending itself. No words needed, just show him waking up and pull the curtains down.

I'm not sure how what we've heard so far would even make sense.

9S won't wake up and he uses his last words to tell 2B 'I didn't go to space'? I mean, wat. Like that's all 2B really wanted to know is if he went to space or not. That would be a bizarre as fuck ending.

Plus if he didn't go to space then why wouldn't he be able to wake up in the first place?

Someone redpill me on Automata's glitches/exploits/easter eggs etc

>>174838451
Anon, just stop believing a typical spoiler hysteria.
I swear, it takes the shape of "Roronoa Zoro lost one hand" back from wan piss timeskip.

>>174837698
all im seeing is he finds out and gets killed not that his memories transcend wipes

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>9S asks 153 if he was found while breaking into the moon server
>he was actually found because 153 itself sent a signal to Commander
asshole
at least Commander had a change of heart

>>174838734
it's the speed he finds shit out matters first
153 tells that 9S knows everything when it's time for another assassination
up to 2B's role
and he kills himself

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>・9Sが「2Bは光だ」的なナレーションをどこかでしていた。

>9S said "2B is the light"

>>174838614
I mean I know it's stupid, I'm just not sure I wouldn't put it past Taro.

Although, don't the pods pretty explicitly state in the game that they recovered all of their memories and can and will bring them back? I mean he'd have to retcon that shit, not sure even he would go that far.

>>174838947
She didn't have a change of heart.

Was probably just gonna have 2b kill him during the invasion.

>>174839457
Pods recover 9S' body too. Both his memories and his body are near 2B. There's not a single reason he shouldn't awake given that he had it far worse on ending A and survived by leaving traces of his self in machine network, not having his memories saved by 042.

whats the point of status cures if only two enemies in the game have status inflecters?

>>174839581
Doubt it. Commander specifically states that she wants to see 9S' course of actions.

>>174839758
She was probably acting cool about it because she didn't want an incident on the bunker

9s could be more easily dealt with on ground.

>>174839191
What speed? The story bit we have just starts out with him finding out, we don't know how.

>>174839829
There's no easier way to deal with him than swarm him with all E models in bunker.
Enraged 9S is a monster and 2B alone can barely hold her own against him.

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>>174839913
On the bunker he can self destruct or heavily damage it.

On ground, if he gets stuck there he can't get back up. They could just wipe him if he attmepted to use a terminal.

>>174838947
Why did 042 develop sentience before 153? You could tell that during his conversations with 153 during Route C he was considerably more humanlike

>>174840136

I mean, why not?

>>174839758
Given that she knows about the back door and that the time is near, she probably just isn't worried about it, or it's even just part of the plan. N2 didn't seem particularly surprised when 9S made it to the tower, in fact it seemed like they set it up to where he would.

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>>174840350
She doesn't know about the YoRHa disposal plan.

>>174840327

This, plus for all we know she was just better at covering it up.

>>174840350
She didn't know about Yorha getting fucked by the machines.

>>174840027
Is it even possible to change his heart?

>>174840616
If he had a Palace, it would probably have some flippant thing for him to change his heart over.

IE: he was actually just stealing coffee filters and shit from the SE office.

>People butthurt about possibly getting TARO'd by the concert

Reminder that ending E wasn't an ending he wanted to write

>>174840480
That's odd, the backdoor was only level-S. She must have known it was there for some reason. I'm just not sure I see any reason for her to just be like yeah fuck it let 9S do whatever. If there were some actual documents indicating that she was sick of it all or something, then maybe.

>>174840859
I keep seeing this posted and yet nobody ever sources it.

>>174840859
I don't give a shit about what he wants, actually. Ending E is a collective effort of players and characters themselves. If he wants to sabotage it with cheap forced drama i will forever be disappointed in him.

>>174841269

That's the way the cookie crumbles brah

That's a theme of Taro's work. Happily ever after doesn't exist. Even if things work out, they might go to shit later. There's always hope, but there's always despair, too.

>>174841483
>Happily ever after doesn't exist
Someone needs to read E ending of original Nier which was perfectly happy for the main cast aside from Emil who got his happy ending in Automata by being mercy killed.

>>174841483
not a single Taro ending was comparable to Automata's E thematically and in terms of message
when your entire developer team starts singing to encourage you to pull through their bullshit and kill them, last thing you should expect is Taro sabotaging his own message

>>174839354
:( they are truly a great couple

>lomeo, lomeo
>jurieto, jurieto

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>>174841160
I'm aware, but I'd like to see whether that's the case in the Japanese original. In the English archives, the fact that YoRHa is meant to be disposed of is revealed in the records about the Black Boxes, which is not the case in the Japanese version. Think about it: You get the record on the Black Boxes in the Soul Box and 9S mainly addresses the fact that they're made from machine cores, whereas the record (in English) also contains info about YoRHa's disposal. Then, when N2 gives him the YoRHa disposal records in the Tower, he freaks out as if it was completely new information to him. That's because it was supposed to be new, as it is in the Japanese original. Localisers just bungled it up.

So yes, it is "odd", it makes no sense that the backdoor would be listed under Level-S clearance when the actual point of the backdoor is then classified as Level-SS, but there's precedent for the English archives to fuck up precisely that kind of thing.

>>174833209
>>174833209
Didn't catch you last thread. Anyway seeing as you have a 940M I take it you're on a laptop with integrated graphics next to it. Make sure to configure the Nier;Automata executable to use the Nvidea graphics card. It didn't automatically select it for me either.

>>174841808
>lomeo

Tthe nips wouldn't pronounce Romeo like that, they'd phonetically speak "Ro-Mi-Oh"

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So, lets assume that 9S dying is true, what do you think will happen with 2B?

>>174842124
She'll develop a complicated look on her face.

>>174841831
>but I'd like to see whether that's the case in the Japanese original.
>M-muh Japanese!
Fucking weebs man

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>>174837647
>>174837721
I doubt either of them are the real Emil. 80-some million copies and all that.

>>174840136
Maybe 153 was was trying to suppress the growth of her sentience because it made ordering kills on 9S too painful, the same way 2B tries to suppress her emotions because of killing him.
Meanwhile 042 is curious about these sorts of things and actively tries to figure them out.

Pod 153 = 2B
Pod 042 = 9S

>>174842381
It's not a weeb thing, you fuck. Translation can mess things up, regardless of language. I'm sorry this one happens to be Japanese.

>>174842381
>japanese game
>fans care about japanese
Wow!

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>>174842124
She's going to kill herself. Eventually.

Has Taro ever said shit like Miyazaki about just waiting shit to be open to player interpretation? I mean all of the various details and plot threads in this game are so tenuous that it's hard to know what's valid and what's not.

You get shit like A2 is dirty, then you find out 2B is based on A2, then another part 2B says bathing is pointless. Are these details supposed to imply something, or is it just coincidence? And that's just a stupid example, people can't even agree on more important plot elements because disparate details don't really conclusively fit together.

>>174842497
Souls games don't have people going crazy over the original nip you fucking weeb

>>174841160
She's probably told that the backdoor exists so she knows it's intentional and doesn't try to patch it out.

>>174841831
The difference is that the index record is a single cohesive document while the black box record is two documents that were stuck together by mistake.

>>174842663
Oh gee, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware the almighty authority on media critique that is the Souls Community as decreed original writing by the authors to be irrelevant.

>>174842597
See >>174842334 she is not going to kill herself. We know she is alive 500 years into the future....

>>174842405
wait a moment, why the robot heads look like emil inside?

>>174842663
No ones going crazy here and I've seen plenty of DS videos analyzing the original Japanese. stop being a douche for no reason no one cares if you don't like weebs.

>>174843019

They're based on Emil after Emil fucked the aliens so fucking hard that they started to worship him as a death god.

>>174842969
>she is alive 500 years into the future....

without 9S apparently.

>>174842969
>We know she is alive 500 years into the future....

Wait what?

>>174842620
A2 is dirty because she went rogue since who knows when. 2B throughout the game just stays as practical as possible, hence the maintenance instead of bathing in that dialogue. That's literally it.

Sime of these things are being way overthought.

>>174843019
There's no explicit information about it in the game, so there's no real way to know for sure, but a common idea people have is that the aliens based machines on him because him and his copies were a huge threat to them. It makes sense and is neat, but, like I said, speculation.

>>174843278
Emil heads weapon story.

>>174843059
>I've seen plenty of DS videos analyzing the original Japanese
Yeah, made by autistic pillowhumping weebs

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>>174842620
Guys guys what if 2B used to take baths with 9S in the past so that is he says it feels good, maybe he has a vague memory of the feeling and 2B WAS HAVING SEX WITH HIM WHILE TAKING A SHOWER AND please someone killme

>>174843403
okay mr. chip on the shoulder.

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>>174843419
>please someone killme
NO! Write more!

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>>174843278

>>174843419
Can you obsessive shits fuck of already. Things like the humorous comics are cute, this retarded shit isn't.

>>174843585
If you didnt notice my english is shit so please somebody take this Idea and make a good fanfiction out of this. I dont have any problem understanding I am just shit at writing
Please. I want to fap

in what year is automata based on?

>>174843807
11944

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>>174834423

nice

>>174843845
>>174843682
oh shit, so this weapon story is based on the future?
I can't believe how stupid I am

>>174843748
I want them to stay.

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Out of curiosity, could the random network connection messages during gameplay mean that I'm "saving" someone else at that moment?

>>174843748
Ok so if I draw a comic of them fucking while taking a shower is ok? Fine then...

>>174843983
Yes, it's in the future and reveals the machine network rebuilding after N2 peaced out in C/D/E and strongly implies 2B still being around. Or A2, but she barely classifies as "wearing" black.

>>174843282
That's my point, you can't tell whether it's being over analyzed or not. It seems stupid, but at the same time why would they even bring up baths in a game with a dirty character? Could just be something they did purely unintentionally, but it's odd enough of a detail that it's hard to know.

And again, that's just a dumb example, plenty of details in the game are like that.

>>174844090

No, it's just loading corpses

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>>174843748
Be nice.

>>174843789
It's okay, anon. Hopefully that System Reset smut writer on AO3 will write something similar.

>>174844138
Go ahead. Less fawning, more drawing.

>>174843989
>them
You mean "us".

>>174844245
Oh.. That's much less exciting. Thanks though.

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>>174843170
>>174843363
In fairness, Emil doesn't seem to give a shit about Nines.
>YorHa brain scan complete! '9S,' was it?
>See you again, 2B!

>>174844303
No, I meant them. I'm staying either way.

>>174844438

Script error. He says that even when Toobie's not there.

>>174844210
It's a very dumb example. 9S bringing up baths is just him being him.

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>>174844272
Oh my god man, I am actually reading that one for a second time RIGHT NOW (yeah I know, fucking phoneposter). Its AWESOME. Hopes she/he writes about that.

>>174844438
Emil knows what's up.

>>174844507
9S notices the mistake after Emil makes it

>>174844705

That never happened to me, what's the dialogue?

>>174844507
I always figured it was a cheeky fourth wall break.

>>174844530
Yes, and 2B responds that baths are stupid.
Which is interesting because 2B is based on A2 and A2 is fucking filthy despite first being encountered in a forest with abundant flowing water to clean herself with.

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>>174844705
Him going "Ooo-kay" is in response to Emil forcing a receipt via brain scan onto him.

>>174844763
They're just talking about 9S' very last line, which doesn't actually acknowledge the mistake but is just confused.

People reading into shit and posting it as fact.

Everyone is acting like these rumors have 9S dying. IF they are true, which I'm starting to doubt, it just means his consciousness is on the ark. He's not really dead. There are tons of ways things could go. Maybe 2B will put it his body in some kind of shrine and guard it until his return. Maybe she'll find some way to go to space after the ark (we have no idea how deep in space it is after all). Maybe they create some kind of network that will allow communication with the ark and eventually 9S can transmit himself back to Earth (his consciousness had to get onto it wirelessly, so why couldn't it return the same way?). Who knows. No matter what happens the fact is he isn't dead if he in fact went on the ark.

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>>174844625
I've read it twice too. It seems like they are taking requests in the comment section. I'll ask about them taking a bath. Looks like next chapter is 9S jacking off with clone 2B' hand.

>>174844884
Because 2B's a fucking android that requires maintenance, not baths. Maintenance can include cleaning without taking fucking baths.

A2 is filthy because she's been on the wild without any maintenance since forever. Notice how her filter some time also gets damaged.

>>174844884
As said above, you are way overthinking this. It's as >>174845115 says. I swear some of you guys are approaching Kojimadrone levels of autism.

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>>174844906
>Bitches about people reading into shit and posting it as fact
>Proceeds to read it as a script error and post it as fact
Go back to bed, A2.

>>174845027
This whole post just screams fangirl. How the fuck would 2B even know about the ark to wait for him, go after him or communicate with him. Holy shit you fags are annoying.

>>174844906
He's obviously confused about Emil's last line calling him 2B. Do you have autism?

>>174844530
Do you really not see how baths and dirty people being mentioned creates a curious connection? Those two things are related.

I'm not saying that there IS an actual connection there. That's not what my point was and I don't really care. It's a dumb example because it's unimportant, not because it's true or untrue. My point is simply that the details of the story - with more important things - are vague, unreliable, and potentially misleading. A lot of the plot is revealed through disparate details that way, similar to how ds is, which leads to a lot of speculation and disagreement.

>>174845347
Actually I hate 9S and am a guy, but hey more stupid assumptions is what this thread needs. I just want the whining to stop, and am pointing out he's not "dead". There are a billion ways Taro can take this shit is all I'm saying.

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>>174844884
You can read into it what you want, even without Taro making it explicit that you can like Miyazaki sort of did. Reader-response criticism and all.

However, doesn't mean analysing that particular fact has merit. It's not like A2 and 2B are shown to have exactly the same personality; the pods specifically remark that taking in 2B's memories alters A2's personality, so they can't be the same if mixing them causes alterations. There's also the fact that YoRHa androids undergo regular maintenance and that fast travel works by using temporary bodies. So, completely besides personality, 2B is simply in a position where body parts are easily repaired and rotated, both of which are things A2 does not have access to regardless of how she might feel about them. If you look at A2, a lot of her "dirt" is actually just wear and tear of her parts, not her thinking baths are lame.

>>174845115
>A2 is filthy because she's been on the wild without any maintenance since forever.
so
take
a
fucking
bath

It's not like she shorts out when you stand under the forest waterfalls or anything.

A2 and 2B are simply slobs who only care about beating stuff up.

I'm sorry you were born without the social capacity to figure out details that aren't explicitly hammered into your head every other fucking cutscene. Persona might be more your speed.

>>174845573
Maybe or maybe not. BUT 2B is CLEAN and I will argue this. Maybe she doesn't take baths but she's cleaned regulalry through maintenance. Not giving dirtfags any fodder.

>>174845385

Do you? It's clearly an error

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Have some A4 everyone. Cheer up.

>>174845810
Nobody's arguing that A2 isn't dirty but when is 2B dirty in the game? Fuck off fetishfags.

So the machines definitely did nothing wrong, right? Apart from kinda sadistically fucking with 9S.

Truthful'ly, to my head's cannon, i yam thu one that will teach 2B that'all be my girlfriend, why to bath when..

>>174846004
9S deserved it. Him getting shot into space with the fag twins is the best thing that could have happened to 2B.

>>174846004

I dunno man, can you consider a soulless machine a moral agent in the first place?

>>174846112
And hopefully she can teach how to fucking type.

>>174846214

Teach who?

>>174845317
That sure is a hot "Gotcha!" you dug out there, buddy. I read as much into a fuckup by calling it a fuckup as the people who consider it definitive proof that Emil does not care about 9S, as if his other dialogue to him somehow didn't matter.

Uh huh.

>>174845895
Yeah, an error on Emil's part

>>174846001
Nobody ever said that 2B is dirty ingame
Only that her argument that bathing is useless because of regular maintenance doesn't work when she's based on A2's personality data and A2 obviously doesn't bathe despite not having regular maintenance.

>>174845802
Note that A2 fast travels via the same system and is still dirty on arrival.

>>174845839
>dirtfags
>>174846001
>fetishfags

Honestly, you people who feel this need to label and berate people who have different opinions than you strike me as more autistic than people who overthink dumb connections in games. I mean both are pretty autistic but the former is more annoying.

>>174846367
>I read as much into a fuckup by calling it a fuckup
And what evidence do you have that it's a fuckup, and not the devs poking fun at 9S for being the sidekick character that nobody would play if they had a choice?

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Did you try to save all of them or just 2B

>>174847228
I tried to save 2B but the game kept locking on to the others instead.

(Incidentally, you get a full set of +6 hacking chips as a reward for doing all the anti-air hacks in 9S's part, but nothing for saving all the squads in 2B's part, what the hell?)

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>>174845109
You actually requested it, i love you man. At least I will have something to distract myself of the fact that 9S is fucking dead;_;

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>>174847837
No problem! I need to come up with some more prompts for them. I hope that guy on 2ch was trolling about 9S not waking up.

>>174847192

Probably the fact that 9S is the main character

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>YoRHa fight
>Go back to Bunker
>9S stares at the monitor
>9S: "Whoa"

What did he mean by this? What am I missing here?

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>official art depicts operators's face covering as opaque, only showing the head contours
>fanart constantly makes it half transparent, showing the whole face under it
>remove it from the model to see what it is
>there's another mask under it

>>174848930
and under that . ?

Is it ok to switch between A2 and 9S near the end of the game? It's making me nervous that it gives me an option.

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>>174849138
Yup.

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>>174848930
Are you going to actually mod the game? Like make mods to replace 2B with other YoRHa soldiers or even The Commander?

Or are you just going to bust a nut to the models.

>>174849215
Alright cool. Was worried I'd miss out on one part of the story if o switched to the other.

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>>174848930
>>174849385
Asking you the same since I want to know how to do it.

I want to play replacing with Devola and Popola models.

Just let this general die.
There's no point anymore.
He was everything to me. Now, everything must die!

>>174849630
I want to comfort Devola and Popola and tell them they did all they could and they have nothing to atone for.

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>>174849721
Calm down!

>>174837698
>>174838734
>>174839191
And you all thought Romeos and Juliets was a joke.

What the fuck did I do in a past life to deserve not having an operator 6O in real life? Whatever it is, I regret it.

>>174848793

He meant

>Offline
>Offline
>Offline
>etc.

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>>174849385
>>174849630
>implying i can
all i do is using a script some dude wrote on xentax.com that converts the models to a format blender can read.

i don't think there's any way to repack the dat files, so it's not possible so far.

so yeah, i can only bust a nut to the models. speaking of that, check out this a2. that shadow/texture fuckup looks suggestive.

>>174837647
>>174837721
Whether or not that actual body was the original one doesn't really matter. He was able to recover his memories and more importantly the feelings he had for his friends, that's what made him "true" from the others that had nothing but shattered bits of painful memories.

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>>174849058

>>174840136
>"who are you?"
>who, not what

Because A2 treated him like a person. Before that all pods were treated as tools.

>>174850485
Still a cinnamon roll.

I swear to god the fucking Hegel boss fight was designed to be the most antifun, fucking infuriating fight in all gaming. I'm mad

>>174850485
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH PUT IT BACK ON

>>174840136
They learn from their creators. Basically 042 developed quicker because 2B/A2 were doing very strong-will compelling stuff and 153 was with 9S who's will was leading to his degregation.

>>174839639
If he goes with the machines during ending D there's no reason he would leave anything on earth.

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If you ride the moose all the way across the bridge you can ending [AO]

>>174850626

For fuck's sake get out of the thread until you've finished the game

Goddamn

>>174849919
Why did you kill my ending!?!
I... I...

In the resistance camp, do you always have 2b and 9s sleep in different beds during the playthrough?
In my playthroughs 2B gets the one on the right and 9S gets left.

>>174852134
Oh, I have that backwards. 2B on left, 9S on right.

>>174851107
Make me nerd

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>>174851712
It's okay, anon.

>>174852134
In my mind they sleep together in the same bed. The other bed is for their clothing and stuff.

>>174852350

I don't mean for my sake, I mean for yours

Fuck

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>>174852358
Tell me God, are you punishing me?
Is this the price I'm paying for my past mistakes?

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>>174852350
This is how annoying genfags are made

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>>174852134
There's only one bed.

I need to know more about Accord now that we confirmed she's from Earth. Or at least that she exists on Earth.

>>174845573
Really hope I can talk about this without any needless arguments, but there's another example I thought of that's bothering me now.

I've never bought into the whole fuck is actually kill thing, I feel like if they really wanted to do that they could have just made it murder to avoid the obvious confusion with the 4 letter expletive.

Having said that, some anon the other day was suggesting kill was merely censored because 9S didn't want to hear it and bleeped it out. To which my initial reaction was nonsense anon making up total bullshit. Then I remembered this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viy8ZqsawvY

which struck me as completely inexplicable when I first played the game. But it seems to suggest androids do apparently bleep shit out for some reason. You hear this and see it.

I'm still not necessarily convinced by this, but it's just odd how curious and suspicious it is. I'm not criticizing anyone's interpretation one way or another, but more criticizing the storytelling in the game for dropping these vague and disparate details that don't really clarify what's going on as much as just create odd connections that are suspicious, but ultimately tenuous and inexplicable at best.

I don't mind doing a bit of detective work, in fact I prefer it to long explicit information dumps (looking at you P5), but this game just seems to have many leads and clues that don't actually add up to anything concrete. Really just not sure what to make of it.

>>174853231
Jean Paul was bleeped because Sarte's descendants like suing people who use his name so they had to change the name after the line was already voiced. Instead of rerecording the line they just censored his name.

>>174853583
Goddamn commies.

>>174853583
>sue someone for saying a name

Wat. Is that even possible?

>>174853892
Why do you think so many animes have a WcDonalds?

>>174853892
Actually to make that even more bizarre his name is used in text many times throughout the game, so they can only sue when it's spoken?

I don't know about that anon.

>>174854161
Kill yourself

>>174853996
That's a trademark issue, you can't trademark someone's name afaik.

>>174854518

You absolutely can

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Goodnight, ndg.

>>174849841
What makes you think they didn't do the same thing as YorHa and rumors that they were responsible for humanity's extinction so that the other androids could at least live for revenge, then wiped their own memories to cover up the evidence?

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>>174853136
doesn't get much more exposition outside of drakengard 3. none at all really.

>Happy ending faggots got btfo
Top kek

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>>174855168

>>174852867
Genfags?

>>174854594
Yeah I'm reading about it now about Sarah Palin, but it says it's a service trademark to distinguish you to consumers, so other people basically can't use her name as a business moniker. It doesn't say she can sue you for referencing her name at all. Pretty sure if you could do that Trump would be copyrighting his name and suing the shit out of SNL.

Anyway is there a source for Sartre? All I'm seeing is a steam discussion with no sources. Or possibly easier, was it bleeped in the Japanese audio? Actually they use Sartre in the Japanese version, so not sure why they wouldn't be worried about getting sued.

>>174835965
It's this.

Got a question about ending E
If I delete my data, do I lose the costumes I unlocked too like Emil's mask or A2's wig or do I keep them on a new game

>>174856310
You lose everything.

>>174856398
Damn. Ah well, I don't mind replaying it.

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>>174845965
>A4 was so well-liked by her comrades that they discontinued saving her personality because she depressed everyone during horrific combat situations

>>174847228
>>174847403
I feel like 2B should have been the only hackable one during that segment because she was the one 9S canonically prioritized. Was a little bitter to have the handful that I saved beforehand get infected anyway.

>IV is known to be lewd abd have a stinky pussy
>A2 is filthy and doesnt wash
> both are best girls
Does Taro have a fetish for smelly girls?

>>174857053
>IV is known to have a pussy

Really? I thought this was unknown?

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>#68
I don't check vg enough

Is there by any chance plans for DLC that shrinks the world to a size where slow-walking would be a viable mode to navigate it? God damn, 2B and A2's walk animation...

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>A2 dirty rotten old hag who can't maintain herself despite having literally TONS of androids around the world to fix her poor state
>2B is basically MUH NO FEELINGS and MUH 9S, not aviable
>6O is lesbian for 2B
>21O wants the shota dick inside her vagina and feel how 9S weewee pump loads of lubricant and oil inside her

What Nier Automata told us is that Commander is the truly best girl, with the best body and looks.

>>174857349
They only used Kaine's gestalt data for their personalities, not Kaine's replicant data for their bodies.

>finally came to accept that ending E will forever be vague as shit
>decide to browse previous thread
Poor toobs, girl can't catch a break.

>>174857349
IV from Drakengard 3 you autist

>>174858305
Well shit, then, your comparison is completely meaningless. ALL the Intoners are rancid slutty whores.

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>>174858213
I refuse to accept any confirmation of everything immediately going to shit after Ending E. Best to leave the ending be if they're going to throw in a sudden depressing twist.

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>>174858456
deleet

>>174858456
They all manage to at least clean themselves unlik IV who smells like a Harbor on low tide

>>174856791
Stop this

>>174858504
Look man, I lived near a Catholic school, I know her type. She's the second-best girl after Accord but that doesn't make her any less of a horny virgin bitch who would let guys run a train on her asshole because "it isn't real sex so it's okay."

>>174858993
Tell me more about slutty catholic school girls

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>>174850485

>>174858458
I need you more than ever right now
Can you hear me now?

Maybe if I keep believing my dreams will come to life
Come to life...

Not the guy you replied to.
I take back my despair. After reading the weight of the world lyrics it seems incredibly plausible that 2B will sing it to wake him up.

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>>174860765
If we get Yui Ishikawa singing Weight of The World I can actually die happy.

>>174855042
Because it was completely the fault of Replicant Nier's D&P twins thinking the problem of sentient Replicants would somehow solve itself.
It's a combination of everyone's fault in the first game.

>>174860765
>my face JP singer cries at the ends of the song
>I have no face

>>174861002
>my face when I rushed the B credit sequence and didn't get to hear her cry

I have no face because I can't find any sad pictures in the zip.

Devola sucks dick like a champ, way better than Popola even though she was pretty good.

Visual and tactile hallucinations are great.

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>>174861330
She does wear lipstick...

>>174861407
Why isn't there a DevPop folder in the zip?
Why isn't there a Kaine folder?
Why isn't there a 9S folder?

>>174861473
A zip folder of lewds is not given to you. It is something you must take for yourself. Go and make that 9S folder.

>>174858683
Was this something from the game? I don't recall anything about get hygiene being mentioned. It's hilarious if true because she was easily worst girl.

>>174860975
>Replicant Nier's D&P twins thinking the problem of sentient Replicants would somehow solve itself.
Automata's D&P hoped the problem would solve itself.
Nier's D&P were trying to fix it using Weiss and Noir's global recombination function.

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>>174860975
What did you expect them to do? Restart the entire Gestalt project while it was in the middle of being executed with less than a fraction of the manpower and resources that the Hameline organization had at its peak?

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>>174861990
Except no one bothered to mindfuck Weiss until it was too late.
>Oh hey, I'm Noir, we exist to serve the Shadowlord, fug I'm being all cryptic and shit. Wait, how did the swearing hussy manage to break my spell over Weiss? This is impossible! I was so close, how could he have not gotten my message?
>My name's Gestalt Nier, yeah I'm just gonna take my daughter's body because fuck you guys I've been waiting for like, too long. I can only play Dominion against Lord Rattington so many fucking times.
>I'm Popola. I can stop this at any moment by revealing to Weiss the truth and probably get a happy ending. Or I could just force the books to merge whenever my sister and I want to; WCS is over right? Wait why isn't the book combining working? Oh no why is Devola dead?
>Hey guys, I'm Replicant Nier. I've got no fucking clue what's going on. It's not my fault humanity is doomed.
Automata D&P's got the short end of the stick by being forced to pick up the pieces. I mean, sure, Nier's D&P thought they could wait it out for another generation and start the fusion then, but I cannot fathom how they did not forsee both Niers going berserk and why they did nothing to stop it.

>>174838408
>All around, i think Taro just wants to tie this with entire auditory performing Weight of the World so that 2B's voice can reach 9S. If he actually pulls this out, this concert will end up being fourth wall breaker the size of E ending itself. No words needed, just show him waking up and pull the curtains down.

Dude, I read that in the last general and it's lame as fuck. Is Taro really going to pull something cheesy and predicable? I somehow doubt it.

>>174862260
I cannot see why they didn't start it any time sooner. Like, they could have started the merging at the beginning of the current generation. I guess the hiccup of sentient Replicants was bad, as was their own consciences, but still, they should have acted on at least some plan before the Shadowlord lost his patience.

>>174862691
Ending E in general is pretty sappy and cheesy all things considered.

If the post ending E story ends up going that sappy happily ever after route, can my girl A2 get one too? Preferably as DLC so we can all get it instead of having to rely on fans to translate it? I want her to be happy too...

>>174862691
Just plainly killing off 9S is like the single shittiest thing he can do unless he's hell-bent on undermining entire message of E.
Not like it wasn't already cheesy.

>>174860765
Yeah lyrics fit too much for Taro to miss this opportunity unless he was insincere while talking about ending E.

>>174850790
Except 153 was backing him up all the way to his final choice.
There's far greater possibility for him to get fucked during route A as he survived purely by accident where he left personal data in some machines. With pods having all his personal data in one way or the other and his body he's like the least possible candidate for not awakening after ending E.

And that's on top of ending C where he survived.

>>174863873
I suspect this is what Yoko's going to do. Things may get worse down the line, (as they always do in the Drakengard/Nier universe), but he rarely, if ever, fucks with the endings itself.

I just want my girl A2 to be happy too. If he fucks up 2B and 9S, she isn't exactly safe either. I just want her to go on happy, wacky hijinks around the world if Anemone and Jackass (hey Yoko, you have your A2 concert story right here, just saying.)

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>>174863873
Aren't the japanese lyrics different though ? Or is Ishikawa Yui going to sing in English ?

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>>174862614
>>174862753
There are only 70-odd years between the problem becoming apparent (as Legion was defeated, the Queen-Beast's maso purged, and the Gestalts brought out of dormancy) and the events of Nier, and during that time they were trying to figure out alternate solutions because the Grimoires were broken and loony.

Does anyone have a rip of all the system sounds? Such as the audio when you pick up items and the like.

>>174864964
Salvation fades
my body fails
The sky is still so dark
The clock is still
the machine is silent
My voice cannot reach you

This is my curse
the depth of my sins
Even though your wish
is atonement without a corrupted soul

Yes, now we'll
shout, even if it's worthless
that song of a broken world
Yes, now we'll
wish, even if it's meaningless
for a future together with you
The smile from that day remains beloved even as it disappears...

Greenery overflows
Life spills
The wind is still so distant
Peeling rust and moving blade
in the forest where death lurks

This is my curse
the pain of killing a promise
Even though your wish
is atonement that throws away your last dream

Yes, now we’ll
shout, even if it’s worthless
the love of this tainted world
Yes, now we’ll
wish, even if it’s meaningless
for time together with you
The drowning consciousness remains gentle even as it disappears…

Yes, now we’ll
shout, even if it’s worthless
that song of a broken world
Yes, now we’ll
wish, even if it’s meaningless
for a future together with you

Yes, now we’ll
shout, even if it’s worthless
the love of this tainted world
Yes, now we’ll
wish, even if it’s meaningless
for time together with you

Even if these prayers can’t be forgiven

…I

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I have faith in my boy Pod 042. Everything will be daijoubu.

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Meanwhile, on the ark

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>>174867881
I liked that set.

>>174867881
Somebody post the source please.

>>174868049
Was there really a reason Ark didn't have 2B's memories aside from Taro being an asshole?
Because for two of them life in machine paradise would be the perfect ending.

>>174868049
boob

>>174850282
Link to the script?

>>174865264
The tone of the Japanese version is like the opposite of the English one. Fuck whoever told me they're the same, they're nothing alike.

If spoilers are true, it seems like Taro wants to "punish" 2B by being unable to finally reach 9S because of what she was doing with him and while providing even more facts about her clear affection to him.

It makes no sense in terms of lore though unless he straight retcons parts of ending E.
Also, 2B already sacrificed her life for him.

And of course he will tie everything up, Emil's heads included, in some other side material, only making ending E more worthless. This whole setup makes ff10-2 look like an apex of writing if this ends up being confirmed.

>>174868915
This doesn't have an exploding soccerball.

>>174868905
Well it's a good thing that End of YoRHa is a combination of all versions. It went extremely well with ending E exactly because it was uncertain. Hopeful english version, depressing japanese version, beautiful Nouveau FR version. If he only wants to stick with japanese only, well, treat it as you treat any other headcanon.

>the future is not given to you

>gives future to you

kthx

>>174869020
At least Tidus' death was explained. In the most retarded way, but still.
Not just "lmao he wont wake up".

>>174869034
The first mistake people do is separating the Player from the characters of 2B, A2, and 9S (Pods even acknowledge the existence of us, the Player). The future wasn't given to us we took it from "God" and rebelled against them.

>>174864768
>http://fusetter.com/tw/coZMR#all
Spoilers for the performance

>>174869223
It was a dialogue between 042 and 153. To limit it only to the player himself is retarded as it was Pod who rebelled in first place.

>>174868628
http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?p=129859&sid=4bca418fae5a7e4d5091844b4f81ef76#p129859

>>174869084
I believe one of the spoilers someone posted is that Jackass suggests 9S may have left on the ark with Adam and Eve.

Obviously, the guy with the script is being a trolling dick so no one knows what's up. If 9S truly didn't wake up, I suspect the dude wouldn't be trolling people like they are now.

>>174869302
Pod rebelled and the player took the reigns in the hacking game.

>>174869337
>I believe one of the spoilers someone posted is that Jackass suggests 9S may have left on the ark with Adam and Eve.
If anything it makes more sense with the following spoiler with 2B hearing 9S saying he didn't leave.

>>174869337
Again, leaving doesn't mean anything. His personal data is still on Earth. 153 was backing it up. 042 found traces of their data in whatever system they were supposed to purge at the end of a game to finalize the plan.

Any explanation for him not waking up will be lame and feel forced as fuck. Not like i even care, i mostly cared about integrity and message of E ending in general and this concert surely ruins it in one way or another.

>>174869021
Yeah, I think it's deliberate.

Ending A is hopeful, so it gets the English version
Ending B is darker, so it gets the Japanese version
Ending C/D is senseless, so it gets the Chaos version
Ending E is a struggle between hope and despair, so it gets the mixed version.

>>174869337
Didn't the ark just take copies of all the machines and the network? Why else would the machines try and rebuild the network 500 years later?

>>174869326
Thanks, buddy. Will dick around with it later today.

>>174869223
if you mean the "the six of us" then rewatch ending e's final cutscene. there are 6 pods flying towards the building with 2b and 9s. it doesn't mean the player at all.

>>174869530
Nah I don't mean that. Pod thanks the Player for the help at the end before you delete the file.

>>174869530
But those are just 153 and 042s other bodies. They each have 3 bodies, a, b and c, with their consciousness spread throughout all 3. They seperate a b and c version were never referred to as seperate characters.

So you can buy the script on ebay for $250.
Hmmm how convenient

>>174869491
>it's 9S who left his personal data in machines yet again slowly rebuilding himself
>it takes him 400 years this time
>400 years of 2B just wandering around feeling constant pain for what she did in the past

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>>174869034
>take literal quote from the game

>compare it to unconfirmed unofficial partial bits we only have busted translations of for an event yet to happen

kthx

I get that it's fun to have a fit every now and again, but quit being retarded.

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>>174869625
>he gains complete self-consciousness just as she collapses on a ground and dies from a fuel filter failure

>>174869684
>he sees her dead and an heroes
>she wakes up and sees he an hero'd next to her and she does it too
>is a romeo and juliet

>>174869432
just leaving doesn't make sense though. i don't think there's any cosmic network that says "only one 9s may be active at any given time in the entire universe", so even if he did leave, a new one would be created using the memories pods saved.

that one's memories would cut off right before accepting the ark, so he'd probably think "i was really tempted to accept the ark offer, almost did, but since i'm here i ultimately denied it".

>>174869565
so does manah in drakengard 1 and accord in drakengard 3. it's kind of like a tradition i guess. the player's an observer. a "watcher".

original nier was the only one that didn't outright thank the player after completion as far as i remember.

>>174869625
I somehow doubt 9S would be rebuilding himself by developing gravity control and warring with Emils.

>>174869748
>she wakes up again because she was merely performing self-mainntenance
>sees him dead yet again
yawn

>>174869280
>Zinnia
Who?

>>174869764
>just leaving doesn't make sense though.
Well that's exactly what the spoiler is also suggesting. Jackass assumed he also left (I guess she found renaming Data of his conversation with Adam & Eve but didn't get the Data of him choosing to stay/go). Thus it ties into the spoiler of 9S telling 2B in a kind of way that he didn't left and chose to stay.

>>174869803
depends on how much his data was spread around the network
he might not realize his true identity at once and thinks about himself as merely a network function, but then gradually proceeds to gain self-consciousness and assemble more and more personal data from various sources to a point he remembers everything or at least the most of it

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> still 0 source posted
> 9S not waking up would contradict the entire point of ending E
> the writing would literally be 5th grade fanfic tier ''actually nvm lol it's tragedy kek''

So how long till nippfags admit they're trolling ?

>>174869748
>9S, 9S, which one of you is 9S?
>2B, 2B, I am not wholly sure.
>9S, 9S, then let us cull thy numbers!
And so the battle rages eternal.

>>174869764
>the player's an observer. a "watcher".
i ain't no flying toothy baby

>>174869937
>So how long till nippfags admit they're trolling ?
until they resell all of their scripts for sicc $$$

>Emil's heads were a hint to the true happy ending
won't be surprised at this point

>>174869937
>http://fusetter.com/tw/y19Rl#all
Nah

>>174869625
I'm drunk right now and fuck you. I didn't need these feels.

>>174869956
those would be lower dimensional watchers, while the players would be higher dimensional conceptual ones who don't actually exist within the universe but beyond it, but their actions still influence the characters.

god the ingame character, and god yoko taro. watchers the characters (babies), and watchers the players, who live in the same "land of the gods" real life taro does, watch/observe taro's creations and interfere with them through playing.

>>174870075
400 years of atonement for 3 years of killing seems like too much.
But hey, if it can potentially end up with machine network S finally granting her happiness, i'm all for it. At least T-shirt date will be really easy to set up because he would probably be able to build the fucking shopping mall just by thinking about it.

>>174870181
>400 years of atonement for 3 years of killing seems like too much.
Tell that to Devola/Popola

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>>174869625
>her face when he comes back

>>174869937
>9S not waking up would contradict the entire point of ending E
It's funny how I haven't seen a single nip say that. A few on 2ch are just complaining they wanted this as DLC or at least released as a drama CD.

>>174870181
But what if 9S goes full Beauvoir in the meantime?
>I built a shopping mall for us, 2B!
>I bought you that t-shirt, 2B!
>I made it out of parts of myself, 2B!
>WEAR ME WEAR ME WEAR ME WEAR ME WEAR ME

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>>174870446
>9S not waking up
>Pod 042 having saved all their memory data
Choose only one

>>174870446
They're more than likely aware of how the guy with the script is trolling the shit out of them at this point. Little point in whining about it until he either gives up the goods or the story is told at the concert.

>>174867881
We need more automata /ss/. Hottest picture there is.

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>>174870437
>she wanders around aimlessly killing machines because she blames them for his inability to wake up
>at some point machines stop resisting her whatsoever but she doesn't stop
>collapses from system failure only to find herself in maintenance mode with a familiar voice asking her if she's alright
>he still doesn't have majority of his memories but he seems to be extremely drawn to her