/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

nth for how is your day going?

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>>174763140
Why no webm section?

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First for unusually specific hardware requirements

>>174763383
Is this a Vive thing?
Explain pls

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That will keep me going...

>>174763659
For 10 minutes

>>174763474
This webm was posted last thread. I'm pretty sure that it requires a keyboard with N-key rollover.

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composer looking for side projects to work on, email me for details of payment.


[email protected]

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https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/the-retreat

https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/the-retreat

https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/the-grand-walk

https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/frozen-rain-drops

https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/sets/improvisations

>>174764440
>https://soundcloud.com/ethanb/the-retreat
this triggered my ASMR

very nice

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Thinking about changing this scene to night pic related

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Hey kid you wanted to plant crops no fuck you have some rocks now with BLINKING TECHNOLOGY

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>>174764829
old version of it was sunset but I hope night will be comftier

Does 2D animation ever get fun, or is it always tedious bullshit

>>174763659
>he had to email himself the picture
rofl someone doesn't have a Windows phone with OneDrive set up

>>174764440

neat, i need some orchestral stuff, i'll keep your email handy.

>>174764995
rofl someone doesn't send himself pics with FB messenger.

>>174764953
Nice change on a clicker

>>174764995
I sent to a friend in an app. Pic got saved in a non-mapped folder.

>>174765476
If the mouse is in range of 3x3 player radius the mouse controls take over. Otherwise keyboard controls and whatever direction player is facing.

For Master Race Precision Gameplay™ brought to you by Nvidia™.

>>174763208
what this

>rdein nuked his twitter
RIPIP

How tf do I go from mp4 to webm and not have the filesize be 60 goddamn MB.

240x160, 16 bitrate, no audio, 7 seconds long

>>174766673
who

>>174766707
The guy who made the gwyn clone

>>174766776
>gwyn
That generic platformer?
Yeah, call the police.

>>174766673
why did he do it? got any links to the drama?

>>174767065
I assume it's gone along with his twitter, I only found out after the fact.
Don't know why

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my favorite thing to do when making levels is having the player return to a puzzle they've already solved later in the level after they gain a new ability

it's unoriginal and been done millions of times before but it makes levels feel like actual areas instead of just a series of rooms one after the other
I like it more than the gimmick of "here's a puzzle you can't solve yet, come back later"

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Who here is working on concept art?

>>174766702
540p
2.9 mb limit

>>174767287
quick! it's the fuzz!

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>>174763140
>reddit makes a game

>>174766702
16 bitrate? 16mbps? thats your fucking problem

use 256k bitrate

>>174767287
Time to loomis it up senpai.

>>174767423
Ancap Tycoon would be fun, desu senpai

>>174767423
>think like anarchy with an edgy sort of twist
right in the sides

>>174766702
>>174767532
look, here is 656x512 at 60fps, 210k bitrate, it is 11 seconds long and only 0.5 megs.

>>174767218
That's a sense of progression and is good design imo

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>>174767683
I used webmcam to make this, downloaded it from the github, it screen records directly to webm

>>174767797
Pure garbage
Can't be scrubbed

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>>174767878
>>174767797
>>174767683

its so quick and easy though, and the file is so small

and no audio is just a checkbox

I even opened two instances of it to make a tutorial thats how easy it is why use obs?

>>174767218
Really good sense of place that way. And I wouldn't be afraid to make "art rooms" where it's just a hub or large chamber without much puzzles or solve (or a secret for players to discover).

Constant puzzling can be tiresome so if you're installing pacing it will keep the player from getting fatigued and dropping the game themselves.

>>174768002
That does seem nice
webmforbakas get wrecked

>>174768002
Yeah if you can get a feel for how long you can record and stay under 3mb, webmcam is great! Not having to open multiple programs saves SO much time, almost enough to counteract having to do multiple takes.

>>174768215
Yeah that's true

Although at the low bitrate I usually hit 4chan's play length limitation before I hit the filesize limitation

I can't remember what the limit is but it might be 60 seconds or something

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>>174764440

ill hit you up fampai.

>>174768340
the time limit is 120 seconds

wish me luck, about to test some new functionality

>>174768581
break a leg!

>>174768581
I hope you find some bugs but they're pretty easy to fix

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>>174768140
I haven't really considered using "art rooms" aside from the starting room in most of the levels

I've been trying to make levels as compact as possible with minimal down-time, but now that I think about it I should probably reconsider, you might be right about the pacing being too tiresome

>>174768729
>>174768763
It worked, it was to call an external program via
System.Diagnostics.Process p = new System.Diagnostics.Process();

and pass in command line arguments to get it to do things, and instead of it writing to a file, capture the output
p.StartInfo.RedirectStandardOutput = true;
p.WaitForExit();
string output = p.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd();

>>174768995
You should add unlockable optional gratuitous gore effects

>spent all day trying to install the FleX branch of ue4
these jiggle physics better be worth it

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VR TCG, I think I'm forgetting something when it comes to tweening.
>mfw it literally took me longer to figure out how to record this webm and post it than it did to get this far along

>>174764440

how long on average does it take to make pieces like these?

>>174769393
this seems like the most gratuitous use of vr

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>>174769338
Like this?
Or are you an H-dev?

>>174769474
That's a vertex, not physics, you ignoramus

>>174769474
That's just pushing vertices around, right? Flex is an actual physics sim.

And I am an aspiring h-dev.

>>174769457
Yes.

But "handling" the cards in your hand and "seeing" monsters pop up when played a la Yu Gi Oh will make it worth it.

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>>174763202
I've had multiple days. Haven't slept much since posting to Greenlight. Trying like mad to generate traffic. I used to post frequently, but recently Ive already posted a link once. Im going to shamelessly shill it once more here then go kms no bully pls
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=909440815

>>174769631
But is your game actually good?
Another hearthstone clone would kill it

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i made a shockwav effect. what doyou think?

>>174769631
You'll be limited in the number of monsters just because of models and animations... hopefully this forces you to make a well-balanced tcg with no chaff monsters

>>174769975
I can dab to that

>>174769975
>mixels ree

>>174769776
That's yet to be decided
I'm bad at TCG games, this is just fun as fuck to code. I have 2 friends who have more of a mind for that helping with that side of things. But the goal is to keep the fast pace of most online TCGs, get rid of RNGesus, and make a different mana curve besides "every turn gain a mana".

>>174769732
I've actually seen folks around here ask about your game more than a few times. Best of luck with greenlight, but you've picked a bit of a slow time to shill.

>>174769732
Glad to see this didnt die.

But the name "Delia" might have been better, but thats just me. Your trailer is colorful with decent music, but it doesnt really convey what the game is or about.

Are there characters to meet?
Does the world have any lore?
Is there a significance to you being there?
etc

This is actually a rare thing where i dont agree with the minimalist approach. I'd say your next thing should highlight the features better, but not hit people over the head.

gl m8

>>174770009
Yep. Makes me more design conscious, especially given a simple creature with portrait + model + 3 animations (idle, attack, die) will cost around $100 per at least. And that's India level work.

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>>174769338
The tech has tons of issues but you are in for a treat. could new challengers stop appearing and stealing my ideas reee

>>174770432
are you the anon that posted the anime chick with three different shaders

best of luck to you, i'm sure there is room for both of us

>>174770432
What in the fug

demo where

>>174770570
what the fuck, is slapping a girl with a dildo really enough to get you off

i wonder if i just went full retard and made naked girls with rubbery meme physics animations, would that be enough to satisfy someones fetishes

>>174769975
Youre pretty late on the downwell clone vine

>>174770432
R9k bait in the making

>>174769975
since this game is making you zero money at the moment shouldn't you drop it just like cavern kings?

>>174770246
Drop the first 23 seconds of the trailer

>>174770791
>>174770682
im not vine.........

>>174770232
Well damn, Im flattered 2bh. Thanks, yeah im definitely not thinking straight Im like a zombie at the moment sleep exhaustion.

>>174770246
Yeah, that name honestly sounds better and would avoid the negative connotations with psychedelic culture and only allude to it. Well, I fucked up there.

I plan on implementing some matter of lore in the form of items and secret areas you find. The only concrete thing story-wise that Ive really leaned towards is a lunatic NPC which you find in hidden caves that rambles off some lines which contain keys to finding Easter eggs, not just the collectibles.
I tried to just focus on describing the mechanics in detail in the description and show part of the gameplay. For example every 'jumping off point' only shows the last 1/2 - 1/3 of the combo of flowers to grab which still leaves the puzzle intact without ruining it but also showing the floaty jumps. Thank m8
man i gotta sleep im rambling fucked up Thanks again for the feedback

>>174770812
this is what you get for comissioning sprites from someone with an established artstyle

it doesnt matter who codes it, it's vine branded at the end of the day

>>174770812
I dont believe you, you black goddess

>>174770881
No problem, and yeah, i get your trailer. But I always give trailer feedback as if i were your average clueless /v/irgin. And always assume that they well NEVER read your descripiton or much of anything really.
Get some sleep m8

>>174770960
vine is a good brand. i dont understand why youd have a problem with it

>>174770663
you're making an assumption that my interest is sexual

>>174771029
True, and that description is fucking absurd anyway i need to chop it down like mad. I thought maybe a huge wall of text would satiate people looking for a story to a degree or something. yeah im gonna come bcak at this tomorrow and crash, thanks again guys

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>>174770549
Yep that was me. Thanks, you too.

The main issue I had with Flex was that there is no way to get different part of a mesh to be simulated with different values. It's perfect for fluids, cloth and static objects though much more realistic results can be had than what you can see on this webm. But then again, we have an in-engine cloth tool coming up in 4.16 and you would have to port all code by yourself every few months and there is no support for AMD as far as I know..although nvidia seem to have updated everything to 4.15 so maybe they have decided to give gameworks a better support?

>>174770570
In my head. Hopefully something will be released by the end of this summer.

>>174771189
It'll be too late by then, your flood of traffic only lasts a day, its probably already dropped to 1 new visitor per hour, right?

You should have asked agdg for critique before you pulled the trigger, not after

No progress on web game yet
But chose a physics engine, and made the graphics work with my animations and camera

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>>174771193
What happened to her legs
and are you also the dev that posted the loli+bear VR back a few years ago?

>>174771463
That's the main problem with Flex. It's simulating the whole body as a sausage of the same structure.

I joined this place only a year ago so probably no, unless you meant a cake-feeding demo.

>>174769975
that's some horrible pixel art, who's the artist?

im gonna make a game

>>174771987
do it, i dare you, i double dare you motherfucker

>they don't code in cheevos

buncha fuckin nerds i swear

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>>174771856

>>174771853
>>174771853
I have a half-baked idea for how to do jiggle physics in vanilla ue4:
Just use vertex displacement and pass in the required information into the material. Either per bone, or write to a texture every frame. I'm not sure where or how to do the actual physics calculations, though. Probably would be based on the velocity of each individual bone or one of its derivatives

>>174772141
My game will have exactly one.

>>174771856
Daisuke "Pixel" Amaya

What window resolution fits well with 32x32 sprites?

Im thinking about recreating all my flat design sprites in pixel art design instead

>>174767287
>doesn't have a penis

>>174763659
until you have a heart attack

>>174772585
http://2dforever.com/fix-your-pixelart/

>>174772296
You just saved me a ton of time experimenting with physics again. I had the same idea a few months ago but forgot about it as I had no time to try it out. I was going to use it for tight clothes pressing the body (e.g. thighhighs don't just stretch on top of your body, they slightly compress fat in some parts. So what we have now is a flesh "heightmap" for different clothes. Now if we expand on this and add another layer of heightmaps for groping..brilliant. Thank you. Unfortunately I still have problems coming up with an idea on how to realistically simulate moving fat on parts of the body other than titties and from what I see, the only way to do this will be creating a complex skeleton system that I really don't want to do.

>>174772585
derivatives of 32x32

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do you think 960x540 is a good res?
it should still look OK to go fullscreen from it on normal 1080p screen, no?

>>174764829
>>174764960
Y not both

>>174772909
Could you add a ... "fleshiness" map when you're creating the character, that dictates how much its allowed to move? Breasts and butt would have a high value, elbow, knees, hands would have a low value. You could probably compress it to a single channel in some other map.

There is still the hard problem of actually simulating the thing. There might be a way to do it in the material itself, actually. If the material can read and write data for each vertex, you could simulate the movement per vertex. Every frame:
1. Move the vertex in the direction its currently moving.
2. Keep it inside its maximum range (dictated by the fleshiness map).
3. Apply a slight movement back towards its default position.

The initial movement would come from the bone motion. Keep in mind, this is not just a heightmap, offset along the normal, but it can be offset in an arbitrary direction. I don't know if calculating and storing position and movement per vertex is too expensive, but it doesnt seem like it should be since its not interacting with anything else. Might have to go through compute shaders instead of just materials, though

>>174773650
For a base resolution 360 pixels is a better height. You scale 2x for 720 and 3x for 1080.

>>174773783
>jiggle map
The future is looking bright

>>174759990
Hadn't considered it, will play around with the idea, thanks.

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SoundManager
PrefabCatalog
ProfileManager
VersionNumber
CoroutineManager
EndingManager
ScenarioManager
SQLManager
WebManager
BundleManager
SaveManager
SteamManager
MusicManager
LocalizationManager
LogManager
ActionsManager
GSFUManager
ManagerManager

>>174773783
I see no point in writing own simulation solution as we already have a dedicated tool for that - PHAT (and just have a dedicated "fat" bone for butt, thigh, breast etc which essentially is what you want - a jiggleness alpha). I still haven't tried using APEX cloth for flesh simulation - that needs to be researched.

>>174774564
Call them "SoundMan", "MusicMan", etc

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>>174773848
>For a base resolution 360 pixels is a better height
well, you see, I went kind of off the rails and my player character, who is considerably smaller than some of the enemies, is already 120x120, so I'm afraid the 360p ship has already sailed

>>174763140
Anyone have experience with developing AI for turn based tactics games in gamemaker?
What sort of learning curve am I looking at if I'm starting from a "goombas that can shoot" experience level?
Any good tutes out there or is youtube search my best bet?

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I just don't understando agdg how dis happen?

>>174775082
>pick a shit engine
>get an error
>don't understand how to fix it
Unity... not even once.

>>174775040
I followed this tutorial when i was making a turn based strategy system. I don't know how much it'll help you though.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFAuv8mcArkU5QeQv6qec5BKbZYdaWBjb

>>174775082
I could not run your game above 5-10fps.

>>174775221
Don't worry I'm optimizing a new demo as we speak.

>>174774564
>Manager
P O O
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>>174775182
That's a start at least, thanks.

>>174775270
No problem mate

Which distribution platforms feature 'pay what you want'?

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>>174774972
nice meme
cant help with your problem

>>174775361
Itchio

>>174775082
Your dynamic array fucked up at L264
It tells you right there you incompetent embarrassment.

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space station 13 but not on byond

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I realized there was a bug where the player could turn about the character sprite in the middle of an attack, but it had zero effect on the attack itself. Realized this could be a feature, so I made it so in my attack animation system, states of the animation can be set so the player has full control over their aim, which will allow the player to continue aiming mid combo and the like.

>tfw want to learn pixel art but can barely draw a stick figure
do I have to spend years learning to draw on paper first or can I learn concepts from learning pixel art?

>>174767287
FIYAHH

>>174758094
Needs more light shafts.

>need A* on multilevel grid
>find A* project
>check free vs pro limitations
>free does have grid but not multilevel
>multilevel doesn't support 8 neighbourss anyway

send help

>>174775740
you just add an extra level to your a* calculations dingus

The current state of GM and Unity babies.

>>174775082
Doesn't Unity have a proper debugger? Just backtrace it. You probably resized the array with an uninitialized variable or something.

>>174775740
>treat the grid like a graph
>infinite neighbors on any level
or you can solve going between levels separately

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How's your day? Have you accomplished a lot? What kind of progress did you make?

>>174776290
I ate one of those giant sandwhiches from Safeway and am about to take a massive shit.

>>174776290
Workflow stuff, level loading stuff

>>174775934
You mean treat it like a 3d space? It weon't work because you can only change levels at predetermined locations, like stairs.
>>174776268
i don't quite understand that

>game engine lags on 1k simple moving objects
no wonder why everybody makes simple pixel games

>>174777040
Did you even optimize the code? Are you sure you aren't making unnecessary calculations which could be shared between most objects?

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>>174774564
GameController

>>174776290
Mad mocap progress.

>>174776290
Not bad actually. Finished implementing soft shadows for foreground stuff, and added bear traps.
They still need sound effects, and the animation could use some polish, but for a spur of the moment thing I'm pretty happy with them.

>>174775082
you have too many things in some array
probably you kept increasing some array without noticing, or without deleting old values in the array. So now the array is HUGE
probably being done every frame.

>>174776809
So do a specific check if its a staircase

>>174777564
Yeah, i'm reading up on it and just grasping it(or at least i think so). I suppose that i when i do a path calculation in 2d, i get neighbouring tiles into the open list if they're not already on the closed list, which is pretty straightforward.

What i was thinking is that i could basically make a 3d grid, and have isWalkable[i,j,k] so i konw if i can walk on this grid tile and have every tile know if i can walk to its neighbour from this tile, so for example if i have a tile in the middle of a flat area, i can walk to all of the neighbouring tiles on the same level, bu i can't walk to the one above it because it's in the air and its isWalkable bool is false. Then at a staircase i could get this to true for the tile above and to the front of it, and if i'm at the first floor, i could have the tile have it's neighbours below it unreachable, so even though they're isWalkable, you can't reach them through the floor.

Does that make any sense?

I want to make a game similar in feeling to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (but not a literal fan-game).

Ideas?

>>174777040
What engine? Are you using coroutines to move those objects? attempting to move 1K entities in the main game loop is a bad idea and it has to do with computer architecture not the engine.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: art.

>>174778157
1K is nothing in a system designed for that. For example, doing simple physics velocity/acceleration calculations is easy if the structures iterated are cache coherent, that is, tightly packed and close to each other in memory.

>>174778412
no cache coherency is to do with multi-cpu systems making sure they don't have stale caches of data that was modified by a different cpu.

you're thinking of locality

>>174778157
those objects are just a bullet that moves in a direction, no physics and no logic code yet, how did they made bullet hell games that run on old hardware and can easily go past 10k moving sprites on screen with different sizes?

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>>174778629
>how did they made bullet hell games that run on old hardware and can easily go past 10k moving sprites on screen with different sizes?
Coroutines, you don't need to update every bulltet's position every single frame, you update a batch, and on the next loop iteration another batch, and so on. The result perceived by the player is identical to doing it all in the same loop iteration as the bullet positions are calculated with sub ms delays.
Calculating it all every single loop has an impact no matter how good your cpu is, and this has nothing to do with 3d or 2d by the way.

>>174778412
cache has nothing to do here, it has to do with computing positions for every object on the same loop iteration, which is a thread blocking thing. Coroutines help you subdivide the task across multiple loop iterations so every other thing can be computed as well without causing a lag.


Related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQQMT1QQik

>>174778548
What ever the correct term is, the point stands.

>>174778959
>cache has nothing to do
Sure it does, the smaller the data and the tighter it is, the more of it fits on a cache line. Of course with larger amounts of objects you probably don't just want to update every object every frame, but 1k is still a small amount.

>>174779143
To clarify, I'm talking modern machines, not old hardware and the games made for them.

>>174779143
>>174779383
>>174778959
yeah I'm not really buying it

I get that coroutines allow you to have multiple states that you can pause for now and come back to later without the overhead of threading, but let me just make a quick bench mark on my own computer using openmp and see how many scaled sprites I can draw a second where the scale factor is calculated by some sort of maths for each sprite based on its position.

8 bit or 16 bit pixel art graphics??

>>174779659
kill yourself

>>174779675
Why? It's a legitimate question

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hidden speedrun strats

>>174779745
I want to make fanart of your witch, do you have any detailed artwork I can use as a base?

>>174779745
Oh look, yet another 2d pixel art puzzle platformer.
I bet it's made in gamemaker as well.

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>>174779791
will this work?

>>174779932
indeed

>>174779932
It's perfect. I'll deliver though I'm not sure how soon.

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>>174779704
You wanna do pixel art?
Great, more power to you.

You wanna drive the fucking standards even deeper to the ground?
It's my civil duty to discourage you.

>>174779571
Don't listen to the cache-friendly retards, their proposed type of code does not scale for complex systems such as games. What would be a smart thing to do with bullet hells, and what they probably do, is to do the calculations on the GPU.

>>174779571
I thought I would test something too, so I spawned 1000 3D balls with a velocity of some sort in my shitty 3D engine. Its the most inefficient piece of shit ever, but I still had an fps of around 80-90. Although the physics update loop was multithreaded over 4 threads.

>>174780108
I don't think you understand how powerful computers are these days. I was at a presentation at my school a couple of weeks ago and a guy was showing off a bullet hell he wrote in XNA. He said the engine started throttling only at around 6000-8000 bullets on the screen and that's with collision detection, and it wasn't anything super optimized.

>>174780108
>their proposed type of code does not scale for complex systems such as games
Games is exactly what they're used for the most you retard.

guys, GUYS

THIRD. REICH. XCOM.

>>174780268
fuckwit, FUCKWIT
FUCK. OFF. BACK. TO. POL.

>>174780087
I can't stress enough how much lazy indie developers fucked up pixel art, to the point where its now assumed by the ignorant that older games looked like their no effort 8x8 shits.

Another thing is that the standard of animation is equally dire

>>174780293
ok how about ANTI THIRD REICH XCOM

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>>174780087
>mixels in 2048

>>174780087
The left image looks like shit doe

>>174780541
stop looking into the mirror and look at the screen

>>174780087
Man, I would kill for a new adventure game made with early 90s lucasarts style graphics. I started playing Thimbleweed Park with high hopes, but it basically breaks every single rule in http://2dforever.com/fix-your-pixelart/

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Can I make a Volume material emit light onto other objects like a Surface material can? If so, how?

>>174780087
>Big budget game development studio puts out better graphics than some loser making games in his basement

What other insights will you share with us?

>>174780087
You do realize those early games were made by AAA companies, right? Just because it's pixel art, it doesn't mean that an indie dev has the time to draw like that.

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>>174780634

>>174781681
>>174781725
>turd is okay because basement dwellers can't do any better
you're not completely wrong, it's understandable that codemonkeys resort to these "artstyles" because they can't do any better, no-one's going to chase around people who have lives and shit to scare them with 3 years of hard loomis
but this does not make these graphics any less shit
pick artstyles that don't require a fuckton of work from you AND aren't completely repulsive

>>174781867
>being this butthurt that no one likes his shitty 70s art

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Why did you abandon your previous project?

>>174781941
not an argument

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Behold. More art.

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Progress on a trader screen. You use elemental gems to buy things, which you get by leveling characters to level 2 or above.

>>174782009
Because of my new project

>>174780114
>>174780108
>>174779571
>>174780167
>>174780240

Okay I'm back guys. I had to fix a few bugs.

Turns out I was a little bit wrong. When I ran 100,000 iterations of my test loop I got like, 2fps.

And when I ran only 10,000 iterations I only got 19-20fps.

Mind you this was all-cpu, even the graphics is SDL_LockSurface, update the texture pixels with the cpu, SDL_UnlockSurface, SDL_Flip() using vsync mode.

I bet if you coded it using shaders to do the calculations, or in vulkan or something, you could do a billion a second

>>174782009
i realized i had no idea where exactly to take my pixel platformer and people wouldn't give a slightest amount of shit exactly because it's a pixel platformer

>>174782113
was it good?

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>>174782009
I didn't realize that it would take at least 4 times as much time to complete it than I thought it would

>>174782191
in my judgment it was pretty good i guess

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>he calls his random scribbles "projects"

>>174782009
I went to play Nier Automata instead and it made me reevaluate my life.

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>>174782327

>>174782327
Wow, what a great project! Tumblr/twitter?

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What do you think of my first pixel art? Took me almost 10 minutes to create, am i gamedev now?

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Exhibit 3

>>174782524
In the thumbnail it looks good

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yeah I just tried 8000 objects per frame, and doing some modulo and a single square root for each object, I only get 30fps max, and that is using all cpu cores

>>174782524
The character is shit but I like the tree.

>>174782560
>>174782604
It's funny how adding 3 shades of one color makes everything look better

>>174782569
>his engine can't handle 30 000 sprites on screen with collisions
how are you going to make you are bullet danmaku hell?

>>174782569
>>174782706
HAHAHAHA


>his engine can't handle 500,000 physics entities on the screen
Git good

Do people unsarcastically buy games on itch? Do people actually surf Steam new releases?

>>174782569
I would expect software rendering is the problem.

>>174782569
I don't give a fuck about the sprites but fuck man, enlarge your recording screen, what is this amateur bulllshit

>>174782821
>Do people unsarcastically buy games on itch?
very rare occurrence
>Do people actually surf Steam new releases?
there are shitters out there who buy things randomly, there is a reason why some of the unremarkable turdlets still reach thousands in sales

>tfw your game wont be finished before Steam Greenlight disappears

Feels bad

>>174782569
So THIS is the power of enginedevving... woah.

>>174782982
Watch a shitload of kikestarters having the goal of paying steams new fee to get on.

>>174782982
Instead it will make use of a better system that promotes actually good games! Hooray!

> yoyo compiler won't compile my game because of comments

give me ideas for free

>>174783181
A game about a very big slime trying to get through a very small dungeon.

>>174783181
toilet bees

>>174783245
I already did that, next.

>>174783279
Really? Could you show me screenshots and explain the gameplay?

>>174783181
Tower defense game where you are the attacker

>>174783181
You're a faggy buttlord who wants to turn the world gay.

Plot twist: you're the villain

>>174783245
>>174783316

Gish?

>>174781681
>>174781725
you fucks are you 15 or something?
90's gamedev studios weren't multi billion dollar corporations

>>174783181
A robot who's job is to rewind old VHS tapes and has existential thoughts about how he is not really useful cause VHS are no longer a thing.

>>174783502
Wall-E the game?

>>174783478
So you're claiming to have made gish?

Also I was thinking way bigger slime.

>>174783535
Yea but even more useless.

Reminder that giving away a product for practically free then demanding that users upgrade to the latest paid version is ransomware.

>>174783181
being paul erdos and trying to collaborate with as much people as you can in limited time. find optimal routes (traveling salesman problem), manage moneys, send letters to people to build friendship and unlock meetings with rare unique mathematicians

When's the next Jam? First week of June?
What theme?

>>174783565
>here is a thing
>did you like it?
>you did huh?
>k, if you want more of it, I will need some caching to keep me going
>MURDER!!! RIPOFF!! I'M BEING RAPED!!!

>>174783491
Well, on the picture you have Lucasarts. They had about 20-30 employers at least and a lot of funding from an actual publisher.

Nowadays, indie games are made with 1 or 2 people with no budget.

Which do you think will look better?

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>>174783316

>>174783641
I know EXACTLY which tutorial those textures are from.

>>174783641
Shit game dude. Our ideas are wasted on you.

I'm sorry Blender but into the trash off you go. Rigging and everything else in Maya is such a breeze. If only it didn't crash so often.

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>>174783639
Owlboy was made by 5 people and literally one of them did the visuals, so no, I'm not byung this "you need a boatload of people and millions of dollars to make a nice pixel game bullshit.
It's all about effort.

>>174783856
what if i dont care about autist graphics whores?

>>174783856
owlboy is the worst example you could've used

>>174783856
It also took 10 years to make, due to which all the mechanics and gameplay in place are very overused by now. Try again.

>>174782821
I get ~$17 per 1000 downloads on itchio, I don't know if that's average or anything.

please stop with all the stardew valley clones, you will never succeed

>>174783989
>complains about things being overused
>defends using overused pixel limb pixelshit artstyle

>>174783994
How many 1000 downloads do you have?

>>174784031
afraid of competition?

>>174784031
Who are you quoting?

>>174784085
26

A game like Skyrim but actually good like Morrowind

>>174784031
Name another old game to remake and make many American dollars

>>174783994
>>174784174
wtf, how did it get so popular?

>>174784310
Black & White

>>174783938
don't get into arguments with them if you don't care
>>174783949
it's not, it's the best example out there, it's head and shoulders above everything else, because they've done their fucking homework
>>174783989
it took 10 years to make because they buckled to their fans and rebuilt it like 4 times based on popular demand and it still stands out

Also nobody is asking to outdo Owlboy, that's ridiculous.
Owlboy is so high up above the average, you have more than enough space to fill just trying to a little better than the rest.

what if everyone stopped doing pixel platformers and started doing doomlikes

>>174784397
you're onto something

>>174784310
Maniac Mansion

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>this is considered good by agdg standards

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>this is considered good by agdg standards

>>174784646
>>174784703
Prove your game looks better. You can, can't you?

I honestly prefer >>174784703 over >>174784646

The latter just looks like generic hentai game #65001 from the 90s

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>this is considered good by agdg standards

>this is considered good by (you)r standards
It's a picture of (you)r game

>>174784742
you could click any game from the last demoday and there is a 80% chance it will look better than the bottom example
it's a bar so low it dug a hole in the ground

>>174784810
Wow pixel-shit over autism that took 9 years? Whats wrong with you?!?

>tfw my game is not considered good by agdg standards

>>174784941
I want to see your game though.

>>174784956
Because the pixel shit looks more comfy and not as gay

>29 years handmade graphics
>it's still a boring, slow collect-a-thon
NEVER EVER listen to artfags.

>>174784992
you've already seen my game, you want to see it again or what
then go look for it, it's three clicks away
you know what i'm saying is true

>>174785056
Post
your
game

>>174785095
you seem upset

>>174785129
You seem a nodev
I don't even make 2D games, so I don't give a fuck about this conversation about pixel shit, I just don't like nodevs like you

>>174785204
>I don't even make 2D games, so I don't give a fuck about this conversation about pixel shit
>That's why I'm actively participating in this discussion and, because arguments are starting to run dry, I try to derail it into "where is your game"

>>174784813
I liked it better when the player was a hunchback boxman.

>>174785314
Why do I need an argument when you have none?
Why can't I discuss pixel art if I don't make pixel art, considering I never expressed preference for either kind?
Where is your game?

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on gamemaker, how do you use delta timing to make the run run at the same speed for everyone irrespective of the framerate?

>>174785378
good attempt, but i ain't falling for it

>>174785419
multiply all movement by delta
You should calculate your movements based on pixels per second rather than pixels per frame.

>>174782009
I need to learn a lot more before I can take on something of that magnitude compared to other projects I had.

>>174785476
Not an argument.
I guess this is you admitting you're a nodev. Not surprising.

>>174785419
the room steps are constant, the framerate is tied to them, who the fuck makes a gamemaker games that tank framerates under 60?

>>174780373
It's called Operation Darkness, on 360.

>>174785523
>>174785476
you are both literally (not figuratively) retarded

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made a new part of tutorial on making a complete game with Lua and LÖVE: https://github.com/adonaac/blog/issues/13

pprevious parts here: https://github.com/adonaac/blog/issues/11, https://github.com/adonaac/blog/issues/12

>>174785419
/// macro or something else
targetFPS = 60;

///some controller begin step
global.deltaUnscaled = (targetFPS/1000000) * delta_time;
global.delta = global.deltaUnscaled * global.timeMulti;

///step
image_speed = someSpeed * global.delta

x += xVel * global.delta

>>174785572
>look at me I make a shitty-ass game with locked framerate because that's how GM does by default
kill yourself my man

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>>174785616

>>174785626
Does it tell me how to do that glitchy shader?

>>174785742
its going to be one of the last tutorials i write, so right now no

>>174785742
It looks pretty easy, just some vertical translation and a bit of noise

>>174785649
You know this is a really fucking absurd thing to say when talking about sprite based games.

You are gaining nothing from ultra fast framerates unless you actually do have things like 60FPS animations, otherwise the game just has to freeze frames even longer.

>>174785995
but what if i want to make a game 30 fps locked and then release a paid upgrade to 60 fps? do you suggest manually altering everything for 60 fps?

>>174785995
The main point of delta timing is to make the game not slow the fuck down when played at lower framerates.
Locked 60fps might seem fine to you but it WILL look like shit if played on a 144hz monitor for example, it's about object movement and not just animations.
It's just bad programming and it's shameful that YoYo encourages it.

even after overclocking my computer from 3.3ghz to 4.2ghz it still isn't any higher fps

although according to cpu-z my single thread is almost as fast as the i7-6850k

>>174785995
But then isn't the movement and stuff also locked?

>>174775740
just write A* yourself, did you flunk out of your AI class?

>>174786158
>Locked 60fps might seem fine to you but it WILL look like shit if played on a 144hz monitor for example.

Protip: 144hz monitors can also run at refresh rates! You can even set refresh rates for your game!

>>174786445
Imagine playing a 30fps game.
That's how someone used to 144hz sees your game.

Fix your game before it's too late.

>>174775740
>need A* with arbitrary number of levels and arbitrary number of connections and arbitrary distance between each node
>use Godot
>it just works

Finally starting on my dream project, got gamemaker, some art programs, all ready to go, but I'm having a hard time navigating the steps necessary for establishing an L L C

How to make porn interesting?
How to draw?
How to write good?
How to make gaem tbqh?

>>174786606
I honestly dislike graphical porn games, text is where it's at.

Also fuck gameplay.

>>174786537

Half the reason I'm not a fan of Vlambeer games. All these years and they still haven't discovered the 60fps option in Game maker .

>>174786537
>Refresh rate has the same impact as fps for 2d.

Ok buddy.

>>174786650
I think fuck gameplay was a given

>>174786537
>>174786676
Couldn't possibly be that the games are shit and rife with things that game design students think are great like excessive screenshake.

Some anon linked the dude who owns vlambeers talk about how your game is shit and he's clearly full of himself and doesnt know shit.

>>174786650
I can understand, and i don't want to draw porn (atm), but how to make it interesting? you can't just say "he sticked his weewee in her vageygey" boom insta boner.

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Updated a flying enemy with some new moves.
It avoids taking damage while trying to get closer at the same time, and then counters with a sweep attack.
This prevents player from just spamming his way through, and it's also more fun and challenging than boss fights.

>>174782054
Looking good anon, I really like that combat system, a nice evolution of those old JRPG combat systems.

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>>174786692
What do you think "refresh rate" is?

Reminder that higher framerate also means less input lag even if your monitor can't display all the frames.
There's absolutely no reason not to use delta time other than laziness or ignorance.

>>174786762
>the personality of the developer directly affects the game quality
Nice one.

>excessive screenshake
Good thing Vlambeer adds an options menu to tweak things like screenshake intensity. Unlike some developers who don't include options because it will ruin their ~intended experience~

>>174786994
Maybe they're weebs trying to copy their favourite Japanese developers

>>174787062
It does.

You look at guys like Phil Fish, who lost his fucking marbles.

Then you look at guys like Edmund, who has made every effort possible to ruin his fucking game.

>>174786826
Refresh rate is how many times a second your monitor updates per second.
Running a 60fps frame-update at 144hz makes virtually no difference because nothing can move fast enough to cause flickering or screen tearing, unless you are a retard, in which case the game will also look shit at 60hz.

Nice try, though.

>>174786650
>fuck gameplay
ayyyyyy

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Played around with a kind of floating island aesthetic, but I think it's too black.

Also did some work on the nation screen, adding an info screen and the framework for the zone menu. Gotta do the commerce zone next, thinking of a slightly raised wooden dias for it's appearance.

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I really don't like how unity is giving me more batches then I'd like but its pretty so hehe.

>>174787259
Both of the people you mentioned are millionaires. So clearly having what you consider a "bad" personality must mean the person is doing something right.

>>174787259
>Edmund
whos edmund?

is he like a newer philfish

>>174787384
RS clone WHEN
my dick is so hard

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>>174786994
>less input lag even if your monitor can't display all the frames
I don't make games for 286's.
I make games for computers which are to 286 what TSAR bomb was to firecrackers.

It's certainly a plus to be conscious of HW limitations but you guys sound downright fucking paranoid.
You have to actively try to make a 2D game put a hurt on a post 2000 computer.

>>174786795
It's like Red Arremer on crack, good job.

>>174786567
are you talking 2d or 3d? how do you do it for 2d? i've used navigation mesh but i don't know how to connect different levels

>>174787267
Goddamn you're stupid, you can't tell the difference between 60fps and 13638115fps because your monitor only updates 60 times per second, but if you had a 144hz monitor for example the difference would be obvious and jarring.
It's not about screen tearing or flickering, it's about your game being a relatively slow and jittery piece of shit that feels and looks bad compared to a 144fps game.

The difference between 60 and 120 isn't as noticeable as 30 and 60 but it's still very obvious.

It's literally as simple as multiplying everything by delta and your game isn't shit anymore.

>>174786606
>How to make porn interesting?
Just think of any fun or popular game and make it so it rewards the player with lewd for completing tasks.
Pokemon where you capture monster girls. Ragnarok Online, but all the enemies are monster girls and your weapon is your cock instead of a sword. Dragon Quest, but you can fuck all the NPCs. Platformers where monsters grapple and rape the heroine protagonist.
These all sound like jokes, but they're actual games who have made their developers rich. Patreons make several thousand a month putting this stuff out.

Art, writing, and programming matter very little. Getting your game out there in the first place is what matters most. If you don't believe me, look at half the Patreons posted on Hongfire/ULMF, or how Breeding Season used to look like originally, or the LoK forums in general.

>>174776290
My game grew out of what was originally supposed to be a test file to teach myself SDL. I ran into some bugs with the collisions, so I said screw it and rewrote the whole thing. It feels so fucking good to write new code now.

>>174787556
What hardware limitations? Locked 60 fps means your game will always have inherent input lag no matter how fast your PC is, it probably doesn't matter much in typical pixelshit platformers but it's very noticeable in first person shooters.

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I had never heard of owlboy before this thread

what is it and why is it $35 on steam? is it a gamemaker game? it looks like a gamemaker metroidvania or something game with classical music and you fly around and carry npcs around the place, so?

according to steamspy it launched 6 months ago and has 70,000 players

>Developer: D-Pad Studio
>Publisher: D-Pad Studio
>Genre: Action, Adventure, Indie
>Release date: Nov 1, 2016 Price: $24.99
>Score rank: 86% Userscore: 93% Old userscore: 94% Metascore: 88%
>Owners: 91,801 ± 8,686
>Players in the last 2 weeks: 1,935 ± 1,261 (2.11%)
>Players total: 76,966 ± 7,953 (83.84%)

>>174787575
The Astar in Godot uses Vector3 positions, so it can be 2D or 3D, if you want it to be 2D just make the points with only x and y, z being 0. You could make a second level by increasing the z number. And you can choose which points are connected to which other points, so if you have specific points that go up/down you connect them there.

I don't know about navigation meshes though.

>>174787838
>tfw when you spent so much time on /agdg/ that you start to believe the shitposting and genuinely, unironically think that engine matters for even a single second
P R E S E N T A T I O N L A Y E R

>>174787718
>but it's very noticeable in first person shooters.
of course, I've never said it's not necessary in 3D games
I fully agree with that

>>174787838
why did you make a webm out of that

>>174787926
Input lag is not related to how many dimensions a game has, it's noticeable in FPS games because you need extremely quick and precise mouse movement.

That's the reason why FPS pros play at minimum graphics even if they have beastly PCs, monitors display the latest rendered frame and with a higher FPS it means displaying a more updated one.

60fps means 16.66ms latency at worst and that's a pretty big deal.

>>174786606
Actually utilize the point of gameplay with the hentai content, don't just make a generic platformer which pauses the game to show a lewd animation and you're already doing better than 90% of h game developers.

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Welp. It was fun. squaredev's game is identical to mine except in 3D. No reason to finish it for loli jam. Maybe next time lads.

actually on second thoughts it reminds me of cave story somehow

>>174787542

Edmun Mcmillan, super meat boy, binding of isaac, dead baby dressup

>>174787580
>It's not about screen tearing or flickering, it's about your game being a relatively slow and jittery piece of shit that feels and looks bad compared to a 144fps game.

So you bought a 144hz monitor without even understanding what refresh rate does, jesus. Having a high refresh rate with lower fps does absolutely nothing, unless the image being rendered is changing a lot e.g. rapidly looking around or moving in a 3d game, in which case jittering and tearing can occur unless you set your vsyc and refresh rate properly. For 2d games, especially ones that update every frame, differences between fps and refresh rate will never, ever, ever bet noticeable.

How fucking gullible and autistic are you, lol?

>>174788175
I'm sure your version is better than mine anon. Don't give up.

>>174788145
well i have a 144fps monitor so I play csgo at 144fps but I notice a bigger different between using deathadder 2013 and cm storm vs 60hz and 144hz

but I like 144hz better because it is faster, also g-sync

>>174782524
Looks like shit, but so do most indie games.
Add some basic animation and try to come up with a minimalistic but working game logic and you're set for itch.io

> it's another dev using shitty pixel art, memepoly or asset store models episode

Can we agree to ignore these people? Theres no excuse in not putting any effort into games with all the tools and information available. Allowing such """devs""" to work and degrade art is the reason why the indie market is a joke

>>174787897
wait, godot has Astar object that isn't exposed in the editor? i thought the only way to do pathfinding is use navmesh, they really need to expose the engine's features in a better way