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Dead General >>174714398
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why are you still playing this awful game?
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>tfw actually climbing ranked in AA now with pepecraft

Most fun deck to play too, only Haven is a big problem when they spam themis and other such shit
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Eris is my 17yo wife.
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Here's the poll for /svg/'s team.
It'll be open until the end of the thread.
Poll results will come the following thread after everything is tallied up.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenNefpiURdxdYK4wRTm3f-5CuyudT1NZZbJPF-XnXe76ielQ/viewform

Gotta get it all set up right now, but there won't be anything happening until June.
I will also be managing the team, for better or worse.

Again, if you have any logo or uniform ideas at all, please post them.
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Reminder that with current meta this game is not worth playing anymore.
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Reminder that Luna killed Shadowverse.
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>>174748479
>lurching corpses and necrossassins aren't a problem
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I still here
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>>174748527
>/svg/'s team? What?
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>>174748602
Kill yourself, discordshitter
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>>174748570
>Lunafags wanted her to be tier 1
>She actually is
>Nobody wants to play the game anymore
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>>174747919
Why not? I don't think it's the best idea in the world, but it was a good goal for me at the time. It would be inefficient to craft anything before crafting it all in one go, as cards could change in value due to nerfs, or I could open them. I've had a soul dealer since I started playing and I never vialed it, now it's viable. The same could happen to other cards.

>>174748357
You can win where in masters? In meme tier or at high level? I can't refine the decks unless I get more cards, I'm doing the best I can. I don't think I can do any better without getting more cards. And I don't particularly enjoy grinding it out with meme decks that have negative win ratios.
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>>174748689
I don't use discord
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>>174748697
If Shadow was just tier 1 it would be fine, but Shadow is absolute fucking cancer right now. There is a reason why it has such a high winrate and some people call it tier 0.
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I wish Fuhrer Eris had finished the job
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ded
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>>174748449
>>174748553
I just gave you two (You)s, didn't I?
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>>174748697
phantom howl + cerb have been killing the game since day 1
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>tfw when you drop Pepe, evo him and buff him
>if the opponent has no random removal you can feel them panicking trying to rush you down before Pepe kills them
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>>174748553
even if i play dragon and shadow?
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>>174748841
>tfw you have a 10++ attack pepe on turn 5
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Good try i'm saving for the next exp
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http://usamin.love/sv.html#freshman_lou
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>>174748826
Only one.
>>174748856
No, this two class is what killed this game.
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>>174748527
The Morning Star should be the logo
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>>174749016
http://usamin.love/card/fortunehunter_feena/e_special.wav
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>>174748582
>shadow running necros and lurching anymore

What the fuck rank are you playing in
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>>174748527
The uniform that Albert's girls use in GBF could be reworked for a soccer jersey
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>>174749081
lurching is standard senpai
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>>174749081
AA2
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>>174748446
Is that true though? It's silly, but here's how I got the idea. I used to play MTG, and then later HS, quit both. I watched Kripp stream HS, and something that struck me was how he planned to get every single card in the game, one of the most P2W games I had ever seen. Of course he spent a ton of money on it. I wanted to do the same for free in SV, a much more generous game. I was fine with waiting a long time as long as I could eventually do it. The problem is the game is slowly becoming unplayable for me unless I renege on my earlier limitation.
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>open up shadowverse for the first time in a week
>start a ranked game despite my mind and gut strongly objecting
>its dshift
>im playing bunga blood, dont get a 1 drop
>he kaleidoscopes my shit next turn, then windblast the next
>end up getting stalled to turn 9 and dying to double dshit
>instantly close the game
>uninstall shadowverse
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>>174749170
>>174749201
I guess I'm just getting numbed by the beast-sergeant-cata-orthus shadows

I haven't see lurching in ages.
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>>174749081
I'm in Master and I just got wrecked by someone who was running that combo.
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>>174748787
How do they keep fucking up?
>End of DE pretty good game state, just need a few tweaks here and there
>RoB buffs Rune and Forest to cancer status
>Post-nerfs looking okay again
>ToG buffs Shadow and Dragon to cancer
Can't wait for nerfs to fix the meta again only for the cycle to repeat next set.
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>>174749357
almost all of the shadows I've played against have switched to aggro with goblins and lyrials
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>>174749357
you can run all those alongside lurching and x3 of that card that destroys something and draws 2
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I feel like Aina and Soul Dominator are underrated.
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>>174749305
>complaying about DShift when tier 0 Shadow and Zell cancer burst is a thing
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>>174749501
>>Post-nerfs looking okay again
Albert says hello (twice, can't be damaged)
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>>174749081
Firin's list runs 3 lurching. Necroass is always good tech vs Dragon.
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>>174748632
It's the general's team that will be participating in the VGL, a semi-annual virtual divegrass tournament between /vg/ generals that's played on Pro Evolution Soccer.

It's AI vs AI so you don't know what to expect.
But there are autists who enjoy it.
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>>174749624
I tried firin's list for quite a long time and while it works, I just couldn't deal with having no phantom howl anymore. I lost countless matches against dragons because I lacked just one of those.
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I've fixed the most egregious instances of powercreep. Especially the cards that are already good but have an Enhance effect slapped on them for some retarded reason. Cygames hire me.

Shadowcraft
Prince Catacomb: Mana cost changed to 4. Fanfare now longer affects Prince Catacomb himself.
Orthus: Stats changed from 1/2 to 1/1.
Zombie Party: Mana cost changed to 4.
Soulsquasher: Mana cost changed to 3. Necromancy cost changed to 5.
Demonlord Eachtar: Mana cost changed to 8. Instead of spawning Zombies, now spawns copies of the lowest cost allied follower that was destroyed this game.

Dragoncraft
Dragoon Scyther: No longer has Bane. Gains Bane (and Storm) during Overflow.
Breath of the Salamander: Damage changed to 2.
Zell: Mana cost changed to 3.
Rahab: Stats changed from 2/5 to 1/5.
Sibyl: Fanfare now occurs only if an allied evolved follower is in play. Heal is now based on the number of allied followers in play, excluding Sibyl.
Lightning Blast: No longer affects amulets.
Ouroboros: Stats changed from 8/4 to 8/3.

Swordcraft
Albert: Mana cost changed to 6.
Luminous Mage: Stats changed from 2/3 to 2/2.

Forestcraft
Vist: Stats changed from 2/5 to 1/5.
Jungle Warden: Stats changed from 4/5 to 4/4.
Crystalia Aerin: Needs a nerf.

Havencraft
Ancient Lion Spirit: Evolve stats changed from 4/5 to 3/4.
Heavenly Aegis: Stats changed from 8/8 to 7/7.

Bloodcraft
Dark Airjammer: Stats changed from 3/4 to 3/3.

Runecraft
Levi: Evolve stats changed from 4/4 to 3/3.

Neutralcraft
Grimnir: Stats changed from 2/3 to 1/3. Enhance cost reduced to 9. Enhance now destroys all enemy followers with defense 4 or less. For each enemy follower destroyed, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.
Sahaquiel: Damage the summoned follower takes persists after it is returned to the hand.
Isafril: Stats changed from 8/8 to 7/7.
Bahamut: No longer has fanfare. Effect is now "At the start of this player's next turn, if this card is still in play, destroy all cards in play, excluding this card."
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I need a concede please 58373
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>>174749612
There will always be a tier 1 deck, that doesn't mean the meta wasn't fine. Every craft was viable, winrates and playrates were very well distributed.
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>>174749698
good job you made shadow bottom tier, you rage cuck
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>>174749742
>playrates were very well distributed.
I don't know at what time you were playing but I got Sword upon Sword upon Sword. Actually worse than dragon this expansion believe it or not. I was ready to uninstall.
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>>174749586
>x is cancer
>"b-but y and z is so much worse!!"
>this is a sound reasoning for continuing to play the game
really gets the ol' neurons firing
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>>174749736
TY master!
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>>174749501
The problem is that they take too much time to make obvious nerfs. They really need to nerf Shadow by the end of this month/start of next month. If they take as much time as they took to nerf Daria/Roach, the game will just slowly die, since Shadow is much worse than both of those were.
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>>174749698
>Ancient Lion Spirit: Evolve stats changed from 4/5 to 3/4.
What
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>>174749570
Soul Dominator was in that kys blood deck that got jewed out of a tourney championship.
I'll probably slip it into mine when I pull some.
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>>174749698
Great changes fellow swor- I mean shadowverse player. With these the game is sure to have even playrates just like in post nerf RoB. Ikuzo!!
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>>174749698
you're the face of this thread, i.e someone who knows jackshit about balance
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>>174749898
he wants to make the card shit and unplayable.
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>>174749873
nice confirmation bias
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>>174749873
This was last week of RoB.
You won't ever find any meta in the history of Shadowverse with playrates looking anywhere near close to this.
>inb4 self-reported data
Yeah, I am sure people don't know what classes they are playing against.
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>>174749698
>Nerfing old cards
>nerfing Levi of all things

Levi is literally the only thing holding rune out of the "complete and utterly useless tier".
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>>174749698
You should probably kill yourself
Nice shitpost though.
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>>174749884
OK, man. Keep complainign about Rune.
Just keep in mind that crying about Rune right now is the equivalent of crying about Dragon at the start of RoB.
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>>174750106
>You won't ever find any meta in the history of Shadowverse with playrates looking anywhere near close to this.
Dariashitters clearly had not caught on to Sword or didn't want to spend vials on something that might not be tier 0 in a month.
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>>174749698
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>>174749909
Soul Dominator can easily deal enhanced Albert levels of damage as long as your deck can consistently leave small followers on board. Can't believe anons shat on it so much when it was revealed, it's not a bad card at all.
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>>174750106
>elf 9.1%
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>>174749698
Some of your ideas are actually decent, but most are retarded, especially if you implement all of them together at once.
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>>174750108
Levi is retarded though. It's like Roach. They really need to give those crafts multiple good non-OP cards and nerf those two cards to the ground.
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>>174750301
This is a result of the bandwagonners that jumped into Roach leaving the class and thinking it was dead. People were still playing Forest at tournaments and it still had good winrate.
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Daily remember, ToG is fucking horrible.
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>>174750331
Levi is nowhere near as important as roach. Remove roach and forest literally ceases to exist. It's the wincon of forest. Rune has multiple ways to win, none of which require Levi.
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>>174750301
People just get tired of always playing the same shit, over and over. Even Dimshift gets more variations than the entirety of Forestcraft.
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>>174749698
>Crystalia Aerin: Needs a nerf.
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>>174750556
Honestly that card is kind of ridiculous
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>>174750556
don't touch roach though
fair and balanced card
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>>174750556
You're a retard if you can't see Aerin is pretty much the Khawy of Forestcraft
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>>174750696
I'll never, ever understand this. It has always clearly been the root of Forest's balance problems, and nerfing/banning it would open up design room for new cards without having to tiptoe around Roach forever and ever.
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>>174750696
>>174750684
>>174750898
Not disagreeing, just pointing the retarded way he decided address it after spitting so much shit about other cards.
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>get to the end of a rank/the beginning of the next rank
>get stuck there for like 3 fucking days before I begin advancing again
Is this common?
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>>174751019
yeahp you skyrocket after 20 wins
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12369 need concede
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>>174750467
>Rune has multiple ways to win
>Forest doesn't

Did Wolfbolt suddenly cease to exist in this game?
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>>174750898
>Aerin is pretty much the Khawys of Forestcraft
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>>174751234
Forest is used alongside roach, because if you draw the silver bolts before you could suicide wolf, the whole combo is useless
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>>174751234
Wolfbolt without roach is horrendous. The 0-cost bolt is almost always a supplement to roach combos. Here's a pic from RoB
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>>174751234
People stopped running it so they could stick in grimnars and jungle wardens.
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>>174751181
anyone?
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>>174751234
Most wolfbolt decks still carry roach.

And they're useless without it until turn 8. And they're fucked if they draw all their bolts before turn 8.
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>>174751234
The Wolfbolt deck also wins with roach half the time... yeah it's an alternate win condition, but it also needs to rely on roach as a crutch just like every other forest deck out there. Much like PtP Forest arguably won more often by roaching than actually getting to 30 shadows.
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WHY WON'T THEY FIX THIS GAME ALREADY!?
GOD DAMMIT I JUST WANT THEM TO BUFF ROLAND SO THAT THE AMULET DOESN'T GET INSTAGIB BY BAHAMUT
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>>174751181
>>174751409
Your match ID does not exist friendo
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>>174751234
My bad, I forgot it. But I think there still is a difference. Roach and silver bolt are designed to single-handedly win you the game. Levi isn't.

Daria wins through synergy with spellboost. While Levi is a good card, you don't need him to win, and he actually has anti-synergy with Daria since he can't be reduced and only contributes much value if you can evolve him.

Dshift wins through using enchanted blade on a follower and then using Dshift for extra turns. This doesn't require Levi. While blade mage is optimal, any of the followers in your deck can be buffed and used to end the game.
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>>174751497
If that thing wasn't removable it would actually be cancer as fuck.
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>>174751497
just play another roland after they bahamut the first :^)
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>>174751497
>Relying on amulets nowadays
It's the current fucking year grandpa
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>>174751409
source?
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>>174751643
>not winning the game by turn 6 with a turn 3 rogues creed
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>>174751607
someone else came first, thx for trying to help and sorry for not updating!
>>174751684
google, thats amane from grisaia
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>>174751643
Guess that explains Haven's shitty winrate.
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>>174751618
Oh boo hoo you only do 4 damage max in a game where Ouroboros exists.
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>>174751609
>Levi has anti-synergy with Daria
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>>174751609
HOMEBREW Daria anon is that you?
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>>174751815
>low cost but high value do nothings that get raped by aggro
>high cost cards that can win the game but also do nothing and get raped by other high cost cards
A-at least there's themis.
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>>174751867
Yes. Willing to explain your counterargument? He can only spellboost if you can evolve him. Compare to something like Clarke.
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>>174751867
You can't spell boost Levi!
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>>174751815
>>174752123
Are you fags retarded
Storm Haven is an excellent deck
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>>174751609
Kill yourself, reddit
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>>174752303
>everything I don't like is reddit
Dismissed.
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>>174752220
Daily reminder
That the vocal part of /svg/ is composed of moronic sub master brainlets.
Don't take any post seriously
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>>174752135
>he only synergizes if you use an evo point
>therefore it's anti-synergy
you're retarded.
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>>174752220
They are just doing the same thing dragons did last expac and shadow is doing during DE. They will stop next expansion
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>>174751815
>destroying haven's amulets
That doesn't work anon. Just ask all the D ranks who've tried to execute a beastcall aria
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>>174752358
Kill yourself, reddit
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>>174752135
Floral doesn't syngergize with Banner because she is only good if you evolve her.
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>>174752135
That's not anti-synergy you absolute fucking retard. Anti-synergy would if playing Levi somehow de-spellboosted your cards, or spellboosting made Levi worst.

>b-but he only spellboosts on evolve
That's almost as retarded as saying spectral wizard has anti-synergy with spellboost. That's how stupid you sound.
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>>174752468
It's anti-synergy because Daria aims to do one thing: use the spellboost mechanic to reduce the costs of their followers and flood. Craig is only a good card because he spellboosts. Clarke is only a good card because he spellboosts. Levi without an evolve is a vanilla 2/2, a worse Craig. Can't be reduced in cost and can't reduce other things. Unplayable.
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>>174752706
anti-synergy is cards making each other worse you dumb faggot, you're just describing a card not making another card better
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>>174752706
That's not what "anti-synergy" is.
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>get 1 free totg pack from score rewards
This is the best pack I have ever opened

Holy fuck I can't believe it
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>>174752706
You could make a solid case that Levi "does" reduce the cost of other cards though. The crimson sorcery he produces does this, and it also helps suppress your opponent's board.
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>>174752824
>>174752840

Nice samefagging.
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>>174752870
Congrats on the lucky pull, anon.
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Is Midrange Blood just an unga bunga vampy deck with a stronger midgame
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>have 7 game win streak with kys blood
>Sibyl happens
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Anyone have a few kys build variations? Want to try some different things out.
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Remind yourself of this conversation before you get into an argument on /svg/.
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>>174752706
>Craft and Clarke are good because they spellboost
>Levi spellboosts and board clears
>Levi doesn't synergize with the deck because I said so
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Need a concede, please.
76951
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>>174752870
paruparuparu
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>>174752870
MOTHER FUCKER
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>>174752958
I agree, I'm just saying that it's fairly unreliable compared to Craig or Clarke because it requires an evolve, which means it also needs to be at least turn 4 to be useful.

>>174752824
>>174752840
Oh well, guess we have different definitions.
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>>174753172
*Craig
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How is Forest supposed to beat Shadow at all in TotG? Shadow can outzerg you, outward you, outminion you, their Last Word effects are more potent than Forest's Fanfares, and Shadow's followers have actual proper stats along with their effects, in addition to not requiring evolve points or hand dumping for half of their effects.
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>>174752870
Congrats!
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>>174753318
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>>174753172
Did you read my post? It's significant that Levi only spellboosts if you pay an evolve, a limited resource that only even becomes available on turn 4.
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>>174753379
Good luck even getting the fodder to Roach anymore. We're no longer in OTK roach meta.
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>>174753318
>How is Forest supposed to beat Shadow
Why are you talking about Forest specifically? No deck can beat Shadow reliably on its current state. Mid Shadow's worst match up is the mirror.
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>>174753206
Thanks, Isabelle.
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>>174753413
>spectral wizard has anti-synergy with spellboost because you have to evolve him to spell-boost your cards

You're an idiot
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What the fuck is up with all the disconnects in norms lately?
I'm playing storm haven for dailies and literally every game I have lethal they rope then leave.
I sort of understand against shadow or drag in ranked if this is the 10th loss in a row you've had against them, but norms against a tier 3?
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>>174753492
Oh. It just feels shitty to have my favorite archetype feel like another does its job even better.

also the fact that none of forest's new shit gives them any fodder for comboing, yet still has shitty stats
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>>174753596
can you post your deck? i'm looking for some garuda matches
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>>174753596
source of the pic?
google image shows nothing
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>>174753803
Use saucenao.
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>>174753548
>2+2 is 4
>you're wrong because of this

????

>>174753803
Pixiv ID
57669912
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>>174753871
not him but can you just confirm that you think spectral wizard anti-synergizes with spellboost, please?
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>>174748324
Wat do? Is now a good time or maybe event will happen?
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Fuck all you haters. Shadow nambaa wan.
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>>174754157
It didn't happen during RoB, so we don't know if it will happen in TotG.
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>>174753596
I want to protect this 17 year old cutie
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>>174754248
I will protect Luna's smile.
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>>174753983
No, because like Levi, it doesn't anti-synergize with spellboost, it anti-synergizes with Daria, a deck based around spellboosting repeatedly, reliably, and early.
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>>174753650
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.640Ho.640Ho.640Ho.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.67st2.67st2.67st2.642Eo.642Eo.642Eo.640IQ.640IQ.640IQ.6BgWy.6BgWy.6477S.6477S.67uqM.67uqM.67uqM.6BizM.68zBg.68zBg.61PnY.61PnY.61PnY.659nE.659nE.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y
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>>174754443
just stop lmao
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>>174752870
Get on my level
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What will be the new keyword they'll introduce in the next expansion?
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>>174754480
Holy shit thats a long link, I just copied it and posted since 4chan thought any shorteners were spam.
It's not great but it works fine for norm dailies
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>>174754480
I'm stupid, what is Urd used for?
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>>174754531
Well, there's no point in continuing, since there is no argument put forth so far besides "I disagree." Glad to help people understand.
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>>174754865
lets moon attack again
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>>174754865
Storm birds
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>>174754586
>2 meme cards
>1 with shitty chipmunk voice

Lmao
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>>174754607
Instant
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>>174754865
Use her on a bird after it attacks and the bird can attack again.
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>>174751234
You run roach in bolt, bolt is just a second wincon. If you drop roach from bolt the deck loses A LOT more because forest card quality is so bad for a large majority of their cards they get stuck running the same couple cards
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>>174754607
Effect that activates from hand during your opponent's turn? Stealing monster bullshit? Milling? Traps?
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>>174754865
Anything with Storm so they can attack again.
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>>174754942
>>174754970
>>174755072
>>174755130
Why don't all Storm Haven lists run Urd?
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>>174753318
No one can beat shadow other than shadow, that's why it has a positive winrate against every deck.
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>>174755217
Most of the ones I've seen do run her.
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>>174754903
You don't even understand what anti-synergy is, how do you plan on helping anyone? There are no "different definitions" here, yours is just wrong.
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>>174755217
She has always been a tech because she is just an understatted 4 drop if you can't make use of her effect. She is a common tech though.
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>>174755097
this we need stants that cancel board clear
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>>174755289
Sorry you feel that way.
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>>174755495
sorry you're too stubborn to be wrong
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Someone please tell me how Aegis is considered a T2 deck.

-Lose to Dshift
-Often overrun by skeleton men before they can even drop Aegis against Midrange and sometimes Aggro Shadow
-I don't get how people can say it's a good matchup against Dragon when you get storm combo'd leaving you with only 7 health and unable to do anything but die the next turn to some other bullshit they have.
-Hardly any aggro blood, it's either kys blood which will have board flood with annoying high HP followers like Yurius and Imp thanks to Airjammer and 4 damage storm followers or it's control which can potentially OTK or leave you with just 1 health with the Azazel + Laura combo.

Maybe I'm just bad, but Haven in general just seems awful this expansion.
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>>174752458
I'll always suffer, Kasumi. I suck at card games, only have sword legendaries, have no idea how to build a deck, am stuck in A0, being a shitter. Save me.
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>be in D0 with 1800 rating because I only started 2 weeks ago
>get matched with people almost in the 3000s

Oh my.
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>playing forest against hordes skeletons
>tfw dodging lethal with aerin
>tfw doing it again with elf queen next turn
>tfw dropping a hot 20 bomb on turn 8
I'm cumming right now
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>>174755726
I started 3 weeks ago and hit AA1 the other day.
You should be able to plow through everything up to A3 if you have even a remotely good deck.
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>>174755726
Getting matched against people with a much higher score than you is actually a good thing.

You get more points if you win, and loose less points if you lose.
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Its unfair that dragoncraft got to be t1 and get best girl
How do we stop the dragon menace?
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>>174755664
if you drop aegis you win
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>>174755709
>am stuck in A0
How is that even a thing?
A0 is virtually identical to B.
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>>174755608
Hmm, maybe I was wrong. Sorry.
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FUCK THIS IS HARD
Left or right?
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>>174755997
I suck. I suck a lot.
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>>174755726
you get 150 if someone have more points
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>>174754607
I would drink Erika's love juices as if it were the ambrosia of the gods
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>>174756005
Left, I dont need to explain it
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>>174756005
Right
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>>174756005
Left all the way
Eachtar is in a cancer tier of his own, you could say that he transcended cancer, I guess you could call it super cancer 2
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>>174756005
Left
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>>174756005
If you try and draft take2 like regular decks you will lose every match
Shadow reaper is absolute garbage in take2
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>>174755876
Been playing exclusively Arena so far while putting together kys Blood and only have like 20 ranked games under my belt so far.

Climbing isn't really difficult or anything, I just didn't start working on the ladder so far.
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>>174756114
>>174756126
Gee, that's helpful.

Left is better as a standalone I guess, but Shadow reaper means more possible synergies later on, since this is first pick. Lord of the Flies is also solid in T2.
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>>174756005
Left, and draft a bunch of catacombs
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>>174755726
They're within one letter tier of you, so it's fair game for matchmaking. I've been matched up with low/mid Masters players from low AA, and that's over a 10k point difference.
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Haven needs a reverse Yurius that heals your leader whenever opponent plays a follower.
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>>174755664
Tier lists don't matter when Shadow is tier 0.
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Do I spend my gold on T2 to maximize profits in the long run?
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>>174756332
Brilliant. I cant wait for elana to be t1 again.
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>>174756005
Balor is absolutely insane in T2 and Eachtar is just great in general.
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>>174756082
It is probably for the best that you stay in A0 then.
AA and onwards are full of grind and tryhards. You can have fun in A's and do your dailies casually.
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How does Arena Matchmaking work? Is it just completely random or do they have any kind of rating system besides how many wins you have in your current run?

I'm in B0 right now and have been matched against AA and even Master players ever since I started playing the game. Matching Beginners against people that reached Master seems pretty bullshit, in hindsight.
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>>174756570
I just want to improve. Here's what I'm running if you have any advice.
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>>174756607
Rank doesnt matterin take2. People with master rank are 99% retarded netdeckers that have absolutely no idea how to draft a deck
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>>174748527
>all those goalhorns
Complete fucking garbage choices, all of them. Those are all definitely player specific goalhorns for Ding-Dong, not one's suitable for the whole team.

Just have SV's main theme for the anthem and Rowen's theme for the normal goalhorn. Boom, done.
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When does the Anigera tie-in end?
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>>174756962
In 3 days.
https://shadowverse.com/news/event/news-0085
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>>174756864
Why is Arisa so fucking CUTE!
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>>174757068
she's an elf

she was LITERALLY made for sex
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>play Storm Haven
>matched against Blood
>it's Kys Blood
>plays Soul Dealer on 4 when he is at 20 health
>evolve Reno and trade into Soul Dealer
>next turn Regal Falcon + Urd + evolve for lethal
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>>174757068
Cuties for cock.
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>>174757151
Good job, anon.
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>>174756864
>Not knowing that players can get specific goalhorns
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>>174756835
That pretty much looks identical to the netdecks on various sites and the swords I face in master, so I don't know what to say.
What are you having trouble with exactly?
If its dragon you can always add 3 giant slayers into your deck.
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>>174757248
I wish there were more cuties for cock.
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>>174757151
>blood passing turn 5 after memedealing
I'll take another things that never happened please. Make it extra spicy this time
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>>174754607
>the new
didn't they introduce 2 keywords in RoB
unless it's something they'll implement extensively, we might get 2 more
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>>174757325
I'm probably fucking up every fundamental thing about card games. I really just need to pick up on basics, I think. Also that one Dragon card, 8 cost. That thing is frustrating.
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>>174757383
He didn't pass, he just didn't ward up. His Ship didn't pull the 1/4 Ward thing.
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>>174757026
Thanks, almost missed it.
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I've been wondering, is the Shadowverse universe canonically part of the Rage of Bahamut universe or are they different and just share characters?

It's obviously different from the Bahamut anime (which is also different from the game), but I've been curious either way.
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>>174757494
So you beat a retard. Congratulations.
>this is the low that haven has fallen to
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I want Vampy-chan to make me her servant!
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>>174757337
Then make sure to give plenty of cock to lots of cuties like Arisa.
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>>174757716
Post more!
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>>174757571
It is and it isnt.
Its just the same characters in a different setting
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>>174757572
>has no wards in hand
>bets on Airjammer to pull Imp
>pulls two Blood Wolfs instead
>somehow he is a retard for this
Why are you so desperately trying to dismiss that anon's post?
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>>174757325
>>174757440
I'm also not really sure about mulligans. I know I want fencer if I'm going 2nd, but other than that I just try to be on pp curve.
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>>174757440
>I'm probably fucking up every fundamental thing about card games.
Well, you will probably improve with time and experience.
>Also that one Dragon card, 8 cost
Ouroubouros? Yeah, once that comes out you are probably fucked unless you have lethal, ideally you should kill them before they can even put down Ourobouros, you can't afford to play the long game against dragon.

Also it might be that the deck itself is simply not working out for you on A rank, have you tried running anything else? I remember that I simply could not win anymore with my blood deck in B, so I had to switch to dragoncraft to enter into A, back when I was ranking up.
How about you try running this one? It is a cheap deck and it can kill dragon faster than any sword, granted it also runs out of steam faster, but you are not supposed to drag the game out. If you go first with this deck, you have a very good chance of ending their lives on turn 4-6. Just go face with it and win.
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>>174757571
No. Also, they don't share the same characters. The cards aren't related to SV universe.
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>>174757572
Beating a retard was given since they were playing kys blood.
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Could I get a concede, please?
97354
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>>174757571
Cards are all from RoB's universe. Their flavor text is straight copy-pasted from RoB.

There is nothing connecting the leaders to RoB though. They are probably from a separate universe.
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>>174749259
you can get a large majority of playable decks outside of super expensive meme ones

but i agree, golds/legends are just a gamble and the rate you gain vials simply cannot lead to a complete collection in a reasonable amount of time

this game is pretty accessible up until you have most of the bronze/silver in each pool, at which point it becomes a slow burn collection wise
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>>174757978
I actually do have enough vials to build that. I played a little bit of Daria because I got three of her when RoB came out, but I don't think I was any decent at it. I should probably save some replays and ask for advice after that. How far up can I run that deck? What's it weak against? Midnecro is difficult as well. That card that summons a 4/4 is ass. Also thank you.
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Post /pol/ inspired memes to scare away normies, discord, and reddit.
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>>174758279
nys
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>>174758279
fuck off back to /v/
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>>174758128
Thank you very much, runebro
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>>174758279
>censored tits
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>dusting all animated cards I have a normal playset of already
>get enough vials to craft a legendary
Cleaning house always feels so nice.

Just need 1 more Meme Dealer to build this shit.
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>>174758373
She needs to keep them locked away, no one wants to see those cowtits.
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>>174756864
>come from /hsg/ to help /svg/ set up their VGL team
>I randomly pick two songs to be SV music in the discord as a suggestion
>this guy insists on those exact songs for the exact purposes I had

Heheh.

So have you guys decided on what kind of aesthetics you'll be running? Card heads or models? Us over at /hsg/ are trying to get set up with a cannon for Patches and a nude model for Zeriyah.
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What are your flex slots in roach? From my understanding, the basic shell is 13 3-ofs (May, Circle, Guidance, Roach, wings, SJ, GMage, Ancient Elf, EPM, Feena, WotF, Aerin, Warden) + 1 Elf Queen. I'm thinking of trying to slot in a couple of copies of lily to get around Ouroboros and other obnoxious huge followers, so what's the cut? I hate making Goblin Mage less consistent, but I think 3 May is too important to cut. Will of the Forest has also been performing very well since it BTFOs shadow's reaper boards while still acting as fairly costed single target removal for big things against Dragon, but despite all of that, I feel like 3 may be too many.
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>>174758247
Daria is useless in current meta imo, I wouldn't recommend using her, though that said I have 0 ranked matches with Rune, but I will say that I never even seen a Daria since the start of the expansion.
>How far up can I run that deck?
It is a RoB deck, but it is holding out well, I can still win with it in Masters. Aggro Blood simply has terrifying burst damage that rapes your face off, especially if the dragon player just ramps up and doesn't ward at all, they can die before Sybil comes up.
>What's it weak against?
Going second.
>Midnecro is difficult as well.
Midnecro is a pain in the ass for everyone, so don't feel bad about that.
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>Don't talk to me or my wife's son EVER again!
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>>174758279
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>>174757571
Speaking of, are recurring characters as good as they are in other games? Any big differences?

Mostly curious about Albert and Vania.
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>>174756480
>>174756265
>>174756246
>>174756204
>>174756246
>>174756114
>>174756126
Thanks for the help.

Fuck shadow is busted. So easy to play too.
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>>174758709
Vania lost her tail, Albert lost his harem
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Bahamut is better than zeus imo, but grimir is good on curve and semi-board wipe.

Which one? I feel like bahamut wins more games than zeus.
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>>174758878
>Demonic simulacrum

At least with right you'll get 2 cards that do something
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>>174758537
You obviously don't need three wings
If you don't have a credible threat to WotF your opponents can sometimes start making heartbreakingly good trades against the 4/X wards you play, and of course there are many cases where your hand means you need to play those naked (no evolve)
Warden itself is a bit meh sometimes too
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>>174758878
Zeus is alright and a roadblock, Grimnir a game winner and still great otherwise.

Bahamut is usually a complete win if you time it right, Simulacrum is utter dogshit and will drag your entire deck's consistency down because of how bad it is.
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>>174758537
WotF isn't really that good
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>>174759046
have you played the card?
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>>174758709
in gbf albert has double attack similar to his t9 enhance, vania has charm and utility, both are very solid characters

probably some rob lore shit im missing
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>>174758958
>>174759031

I forgot to mention I have neptune and grea, so its actually possible to get 2 evolves on board on turn 8 or so. Right still since its situational?
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>>174758373
>>174758485
She needs to stay pure until another man marries her.
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>>174759112
I just want to lewd vampy.
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>>174758878
Both Zeus and Grimnir deal face damage, I think the choice should be obvious
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>>174759076
Yes? Do I need to provide my match history and forest passport for you?
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>>174759112
I want to put my dick in every orifice Vampy has!
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>>174759190
Don't forget timestamp and master rank score!
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>>174759190
So you're just a shitter then? The card lines up extremely well against the best class, and is still pretty good against the second best. You get so much value off of it, even if you just kill 1-2 moderately sized threats.
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>>174758878
A bomb and a dud vs 2 game finishers. Gee, I have no fucking clue.
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>>174759117
Neptune just fills your board but doesn't directly help with evolving, which is the main problem with Simulacrum.

Grea does fill up 1 of those Evos, but that is assuming you want to evolve her as well and can keep both alive for your T9, at which point you want to play a card with more impact than a minion with better-than-average stats as its only ability.

Simulacrum is a bad card even in constructed, don't even bother trying to get it working in T2.
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>>174759235
Maybe we could do it together?
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>>174758627
>tfw I can't even say if this is a meme or T2 dragon since who in the right mind even takes discard your hand bro for 4 damage.
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>>174758878
Bahamut is better than both on the right, but being paired with Simulacrum just kills it. Go right.
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>>174759331
>is still pretty good against the second best
lol
Does jack shit against bahamut
Warden / aerin at least turn off genesis dragon lethal
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>Not bothered to do ranked this month
>Not bothered to get Ta-G or the other card yet
Just no drive this month, feels bad man.
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>>174759572
>Cunning Wyvern, Flute, Price and Valkyrie's Spear all in the same match
No way this isn't T2.
>discard your hand bro for 4 damage.
I-it's 5 damage.
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>>174759837
With the way things are right now, you're probably better off.
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>>174750556
It does though. Imagine if Dragon had it. People would complain non stop about it "stalling the game".
Heal, Evo Advantage AND Ward with good stats and enhance flexibility. The card is bonkers.
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>>174759837
So you don't even played 5 games in the new expansion?
pretty interesting. hope you are giving opinions in the thread too.
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>>174759830
That's why I'm trying to slot in lily, but I'm not considering cutting Aerin/arden, so I'm not sure why that's relevant, D-Rank shitter.
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>>174759837
And to think I had so much fun the first day with my pepe deck.
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>>174760035
Read >>174750984
I know it needs a nerf. It's a comment on the fact that that retard gives very specific and dumb as fuck changes to every card, but can't name a specific way to nerf Aerin.
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>>174759963
I might grind unranked before the end of the month for the collab cards.

>>174760060
This is actually my second post in the thread this month, last time I bothered to post was advice on a T2 pick about two weeks ago.
It's also the only reason I usually come here.
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>>174760060
Wasnt it 20 matches for both
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>>174758878
>grimnir
>literally game winning enhance
you retard. take the left. you deserve to lose.
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>>174760068
I mention warden and aerin because other people who are almost certainly higher on the ladder than you have been experimenting with fewer than 3/3 copies combined
AA trench shitters spouting the "D rank!" meme at anyone not operating on their diminished mental level is by far the most tedious part of this general
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>>174760068
Warden isn't a must. Aerin certainly is though.
In my opinion these are the staples for OTK.
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>>174759837
Nice blogging.
>>
Fix the meta in a single line
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>>174761383
Take away some of Dragon's healing and change Prince somehow.
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>>174761383
Remove Dragon and Shadow
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>>174761383
Neutral Prince Catacomb
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>>174761383
remove all dragon healing and change all storm followers to need evolve to storm
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>>174761383
Unless you have at least AA you're forbidden to post on /svg/.
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>>174761383
Nerf catacomb to 4PP and restrict zell to dragon followers.
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>>174761383
kill all crybbs the game is fine
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>>174761383
Cygames goes back 5 months and tries again
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>>174761383
Remove Zell and Eachtar.
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>>174761636
Kill yourself, shadownigger
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>>174761383
Yurius is 3pp 1 2 card
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>>174761571
>buffing swordcraft
kys albertnigger
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>>174761747
this yurius fucking ruined the game
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>>174761747
>>174762051
kill yourself, shadowniggers
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>>174757295
>reading comprehension
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>>174761383
remove elf
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>>174762051
don't know how cygames created such cancerous card.
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>>174762104
it's one shitposting ESL, don't reply to him
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>>174762196
Kill yourself, shadownigger
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When the dirt meme actually works
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>>174762127
Don't like elf? Kill yourself
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>turn 1 Goblin
>turn 2 Blood Pact
>turn 3 Blood Pact
>turn 4 Revelation
>turn 5 Spiderweb Imp + Vampy
>turn 6 Concede
What did I just play against?
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>>174762401
Concede vampire
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>>174762401

Someone who had a shit draw obviously.
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>>174762401
the worst craft since the release
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>>174762495
Blood is better than dragon right now though
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GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMUNIRU
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>>174762653
kill yourself, dragon falseflagger
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>>174762401
>Hey let's make a class that uses health as a resource
>Then when they get low on health they get bonus effects on some cards too!
>Then let's add dozens of ways to deal that amount of damage out of hand
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>>174762693
Holy shit anon, stop giving out (You)'s like an elf gives out sexual favours, christ.
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>>174762764
kys blood can win against everyone just by dropping Yurius
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>Playing T2
>Go 4-0 thanks to the OPness of Thane and Eachtar
>Final match
>Against opponent with Taker of Two flair
>Don't draw Thane or Eachtar
>Lose horribly
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>>174762693
It is though. Game-ai is the ONLY place out there that calls blood shit and that place is infested by Drank netdeckers
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>>174762795
Kill yourself, (You) baiter
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>>174762475
Who runs Goblins and Revelation in the same deck?
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>>174762819
I need some hard evidence for that statement, anon
>>174762830
Blood is not shit, but it is definitely not better than dragon
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>>174756864
>>174748527
The only somewhat fitting goal one is the one that has a bunch of cards talking, Ring of Gongs I think it was.
Specific goalhorns for a Shadow-meme and a Dragon-meme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rwxs1gH9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7qZxICwgQ
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Need a concede onegai 84389
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>>174762963
How do you expect dragon to win vs kys blood that doesnt give a shit about your ramp and he just brings himself down to1 hp knowing you cannot kill him
Dragon is t2 while blood is t1
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>>174763067
i need to sleep someone help vampy
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>>174763067
Thanks fellow bloodkin.
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Why do people still give a shit about a literal unironic website dedicated to netdecking and take its content like its the word of jesus?
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>>174763041
Going back and listening to the full song, I'd put it at "Only gets remote consideration because all the other choices are just that fucking bad" tier. There's no reason not to use Rowen's theme for the goalhorn unless someone comes up with a better option.

Seriously, that poll REALLY needed a "none of the above" option, I tried to skip that question but was forced to pick one at random and felt dirty because of it.
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>>174763168
Just because KYS beats dragon, does not mean it is better or tier 1 worthy.
You are using false logic, going by your notion CBlood was T1 in Rob, because it countered Daria.
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Left or Right?
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>>174763168
Just because Ramp Dragon has a bad match up against Kys Blood it doesn't mean that Ramp is worse than Blood, retard. That's not how it works.
CBlood and Seraph had favorable match ups against Daria in RoB. That doesn't make those decks better than Daria.
Dragon performs much better than Kys Blood overall..
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>>174763362
20 d-rank shitters cannot be wrong :^)

Whats that? Actual ingame stats showing complete opposite stats? Fuck you shadowpedonigger kys
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>>174763394
t. Dracocuck
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>>174763446
Show the rest of your deck?
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>>174763394
I agree, as a gamewide goalhorn they were all unsuitable. I was just thinking that in regards to PES being all about memes, having the regular game themes could be a little boring, and aside from player-specific goalhorns it's rather difficult to think of something fitting. Hell, maybe just have 7 goalhorns for the classes and keep the generic one unused.
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>>174763446
All of those are bad but elf queen wont help you much in arena
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>>174763446
Elf queen is amazing in take two, but white wolf needs synergy.
Right side is decent no matter what.
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Rule number 1: Never trust /svg/
Rule number 2. Always do the opposite of what /svg/ says
Then this happens
>>174764112
>>174764138
What are you supposed to do?
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may i have a concede pls?
53927
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>>174764560
>elf queen needs shadows
>you having fairy generators on demand in take2
>take2 matches lasting longer than turn 10
All 4 of those cards are garbage but at least right will let you play it early
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>>174764560
>>174764138
>>174764112

I went with the meme queen for the memes. Won my first game but still sort of regreting the choice.
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>>174764579
thanks mama forte!
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>>174765791
Why is forte trying to get into swordcraft
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>>174765791
what's this stupid dork trying to do
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>Dragon mirror
>no player draws Zell
>match literally becomes 5D chess
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>>174765791
>no pantsu glimpse
Disappointed
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>>174766213
>>174766290
That is not forte dragoncucks. Learn your own waifus
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>>174766290
Stop calling Forte a dork!
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Is this roll okay? I'm tired of rerolling and want to get rolled by Shadow instead.
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>>174766376
>implying its grea
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>>174766439
And what should/can I do with it? Anything that stands out? I'm open to most things.
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>deepwood anomaly in T2
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>>174766718
S-shut up! Its not 1000 vials! Anomaly is sleeper OP! It iwll be t1 like with memedealer later on!
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>>174766942
All they need to do is introduce a card that gives storm or something that prevents destruction effects for forest and it will be playable.
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>>174766439
It's fairly meh. If you really want to play Nep Shadow, then go ahead.
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>>174767061
Someone ordered a Bullshit: the card? I got you senpai
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Why the fuck does Eachtar exist?
Every game against Shadow I have to deal with their infinite board flood bullshit that can already win the game on its own, alongside Cerberus+Howl cancer burst combo and Reaper being buffed to insane numbers while they trade their infinite board into mine.
Those are bearable to an extent. You can beat Shadow sometimes if they don't draw Eachtar. When they do, however, and I feel like I have gotten control over the board or have gotten myself in a good situation to turn the tables in the following turn after being through all the bullshit described above, that fucker drops and either gives them lethal, gives them a completely new board or clears my entire board.
That card was a mistake and is much more of an issue than Catacomb. It doesn't matter how well you perform against their early and mid game, because Eachtar will give them everything back in an instant.
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>>174767225
We dont care about reddits opinion on followers
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>>174767225
Shadow is now designated pet class, and papa Cygames ensured that they will win 60% of their games.
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>>174767339
Kill yourself, shadownigger
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>>174767339
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174767225
This is why Dragon is the only one who can give them some fight, either by Baha or Blast
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>>174767195
Good thing that card is restricted to glorious dragon.
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>>174767195
Imagine if he was in any other craft than dragon. But somehow its completely fine and balanced that he gets full stats when evolving despite having the best evolve effect in the game along with being in a craft that has a shitload of high attack followers
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>>174767453
>>174767491
Cry more
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>>174767543
B-but s-shadow, h-he's fine.
I mean look, a deck that doesn't even run him has 50% winrate so dragon is balanced :^)
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>>174767562
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jXGXTMSCDw&t=31s
Thanks for this list, crushed a Mid-Shadow's hopes and dreams
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>>174767658
Cry even more.
There is literally nothing you can do about it.
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>>174767716
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174767650
>a deck that doesn't even run him has 50% winrate
Every Dragon deck runs him. Zell is cancer, but so is the entirety of your deck, shadownigger.
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>>174767543
If he was in any other craft he'd be unusable because nobody has evos on turn 9 and they can't cheat out pp.
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>>174767660
B-b-but /svg/ told me teching into angelic barrage is fucking retarded!
They called me D-rank for even suggesting it!!
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>>174759471
i hope you know that's gay as fug anon
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>>174767195
holy shit, it's like, if you evolve him instead of a storm follower you can attack with an unevolved storm follower
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>>174767716
Wrong. I can play Dragon.
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>shadownigger falseflagging this hard
The game and general are dying already and they are insisting on trying to kill it even further. Good to know there are people here that care about the game. I am leaving this general until nerfs or the next expansion, it's just as much cancer as the ladder right now.
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>Thank god, a Rune player
Never thought I'd think that but here we are.
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>>174767828
You drop an enhanced Salamander then follow-up with Dragon Wings. Later you can drop a JO pendant then Dragon Wings, feels awesome wiping those skellies until you can GRIMNIR
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>>174767812
>because nobody has evos on turn 9
>saving an evo to turn 9 is very difficult
>ikuzo ikuzo
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>>174767972
>waah my netdeck isnt working
>I refuse to tecn against it and win
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>>174767972
People like you who constantly cry about the meta are the true cancer.
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>>174767996
>people are unironically glad they are facing rune
What have we come to?
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>>174768154
>>174768171
Kill yourselves, shadowniggers.
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>>174767996
>>174768192
Because for sword it's
>Thank god, a free win
unless it was Daria
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>>174768192
>>174767996
I swear to god after eight straight ladder games against shadow I sighed out of relief when I saw I was up against d-shit.
This meta is so cancer I was actually glad to go up against the least interactive deck in the game.
The nerfs cant come soon enough.
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>>174768192
Making every rune players life miserable takes priority over everything else
The current meta doesnt even come nowhere close to the bullshit rune was shitting out
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>>174768154
>teching against Shadow
Yeah, good luck with that.
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>>174768269
Literally a couple of posts above you. >>174767660
>tech against it
>win
Its not that hard retard-kun~. Nobody is forcing you to netdeck
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>>174768192
Because 9/10 games being two classes isn't fun.

>>174768315
Earth rite, It was a fun match. My maids drew all my slut commanders so I put more on the board than he could deal with. I had to kill a magic illusionist like 8 times though.
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>>174768345
I'd take Daria and DShift all day over Midrange Shadow.
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Aggro dirt is actually pretty strong against everything but the Dragon Clown Fiesta and Shadow Turbocancer
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>>174768442
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174767828
Except here angelic is not a tech, it's a means to deal face damage.
Can't you even tell the difference just looking at how the deck works?
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>>174768269
>Get called out
>Must be a shadownigger
Just fuck off already.
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>>174768442
>using a meme deck as an argument
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>meanwhile hearthstone has a healthy, versatile meta
uh, shadowbabs?
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>>174768587
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
>>174768659
Kill yourself, blizzcuck.
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>>174768127
Sword doesn't even need zell
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>>174768659
>100% of high ranked play in HS is rogue quest and pirate warrior
Uh HSbabies?
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>>174768127
>Complainting about worse Genesis
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>>174768442
>tech is useful against all ungas
You are the retard here
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>>174768827
You can guarantee genesis dragon draws?
You can play genesis dragon on turn 5 and win earlier?
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>>174767972
>there are people who care about the game
Funniest shit I've read all week in here. The only thing they "care" about is their craft being t1. Butthurt Dorothy and Albert shitters don't have any right to complain even.
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>>174768958
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174768958
You realize that was sarcasm, right?
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Is it 1 or 2 wins in arena to get 5 gold?
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>>174769036
This here is a prime example. Which one were you? Sword or Dorothy? Did you bandwagon on the latest Dragon deck already?
Are you literally shaking right now?
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>>174769174
2 sometimes does it but i don't know about always
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>>174769225
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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Shadow
>Eachtar gives +1/+0
>Catacomb is a 4 drop 1/2 now
Drag
>Zell gives a follower rush

There, fixed the meta.
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>>174768520
>strong against everything
>but dragon
>but shadow
It's shit
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>>174769250
Carefull what you wish for.
Really buffs up my reaper
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>>174769386
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174761383
Cygames goes bankrupt and ceases all operations tomorrow.
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>>174769376

Well yeah, it's shit, but its fun to imagine what decks could be viable this expac if it wasn't for Shadow/Dragon cancer.
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>autism:the thread
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>>174768757

Do you enjoy lying about how generous your game is?

Do you like to downplay other games with lies and willful ignorance regarding how they play?

Have we got the game for you!

Shadowverse, try it now! It's like hearthstone, only with worse gameplay and less popularity! Join now and we'll throw in the added bonus of the graphics being so shameful that you won't be able to tell anyone else you play!
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>>174769417
Just keep proving how mad you are.
Each post like that only makes me happier. I'll think about you every time I win with midshadow.
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>>174769489
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174769489
>reddit spacing
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>>174769489
>reddit spacing
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>>174769552
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174769546
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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Every time someone posts "kys," Cygames makes a broken card for the next expansion. If it's said more times than the number of cards in the expansion, then the card becomes more degenerate.
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I want Australia to leave.
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>>174769690
kys
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>>174769690
kys Blood
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>>174769489
You need weeks or even months of gameplay to come to the level of shit SV gives you on day 1 and the shit you get from packs is laughable at best
>RNGstone
>better gameplay
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>>174769695
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174769695
>This isn't Aussie shitposting m8. We actually put some effort in. This is Canadian levels of shitposting.
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>>174769449
That still wouldn't be aggro dirt.
I've played a lot of dirt in DE and tried the so called "aggro" deck and it's just overall suffering playing this deck because you need two cards to do most significant things.
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>>174769735

Shadowverse right now is decided by the opening draw, that's worse RNG than hearthstone has ever been.
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>>174769787
Welcome to card games.
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>>174769787
>you cant brick in hearthstone because you can play useless shit at turn 2!
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>>174769252
>Zell gives a follower rush
>evolve a card to give a different follower the thing that evolve already does

These balance suggestions are always retarded.
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>t2 oracle
>t3 double oracle
p-please save me
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>>174769896
Zell is a mistake anyways. Cards that can give any follower Storm should not exist. Remove the Overflow restriction and make him give Rush if you think that would make him useless.
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>>174769917
>can't win against 3 turn do nothing
Aggro or kill yourself
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>>174769917
He has no cards now, you're safe as long as you fetch at least one hard removal
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>>174770078
>sibyl into saha isra
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>>174769787
>discover
>adapt
>fanfares 95% being cast on random shit including face
>last words being 95% RNG with discoveries
>literal RNG: the card

>Not having a 2 drop in your opening hand? Worse than any of that shit!
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>>174769917
>t2 oracle
>t3 aiela
>t4 fervor
My ass is severely puckered
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>>174769992
Removing storm from him kills the card anyways. No one plays cards that give rush in this game because evolution is a thing and being forced to play another card along with it just costs you more pp and cards overall.
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>>174770126

1 drop
2 drop
catacombs

game is over

Yes, it is worse than having some RNG on individual cards.
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>>174770180
Hector
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>>174770197
I agree shadowverse needs to add 2pp board clears for every craft
And then add new 2pp board clears with a different name every expansion because the old old one got removed from arena
>>
shadowverse needs hero power
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>>174770180
Yes, but how else would you nerf him by without making him useless? He is a card that gives a follower Storm on the Ramp class. Such a card can only be useless or absolutely broken.
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>>174770371
no fuck off
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>>174770318
Forgot the pic
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>>174770408
4pp
Literally fixed and no more 13 damage bahamuts on face on turn 6
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>>174770408
Make him unable to target non Dragon followers for starters.
That delays his combo by a turn and you have less options than literally Saha anything.
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>>174770283
Yeah rush is the reason people play Hector
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>>174770371
Rune: Spellboost your hand twice
Sword: Target follower can attack twice this turn
Forest: Put in your hand four 0PP Fairies
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>>174770576
That makes him absolutely useless. You missed the point entirely.

>>174770582
This is a more reasonable nerf.
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Zell is now 2/3 3pp ward and only target dragon follower.
There, fixed. Nerfed him without being broken,. This is you how balance the game.
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>>174770727
>2/3 3pp ward
Please no, I don't want to see this on any card ever again.
t. Unga Bunga
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>>174770727
Rowen pls. Making him better doesn't solve anything.
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>>174770667
Not him but the point is to not enable the combo in the same turn, that's too much. Or they keep the same turn combo but only works with Dragon cards, not that difficult to understand
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>>174770727
>buffing him even more
4pp with 3/3 evolved stats is the only acceptable fix to him
There is absolutely no reason why he should work better with neutral cards and have the best evolved stats with the best evolve effect in the game
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>>174770727
>Dragon followers 7pp and under
Pretty much all garbage. At that point, the ward would be the main reason he'd see play.
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>>174770878
>making him totally useless is the only acceptable fix to him

Kys pedonigger.
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>>174770967
>if it doesnt allow you to hit face for 13 damage with another follower and have 4damage when evolving its useless
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Cygames should nerf eggs, 1pp heal and draw is too strong. not to mention that can be played from turn 1.
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What were Cygames thinking when they printed Eachtar?
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>>174770967
Kys snakenigger
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>>174770937
In fact, most Dragon followers above 7pp that don't already have Storm are garbage too.
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>>174771104
>Team A: "It consumes shadows, should have a powerful effect! Plus we want quicker games"
But then they didn't notice team B created Catacombs, what could go wrong?
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>>174771104
>Wa want midrange decks to be stronger
It's quite obvious. Eachtar by itself isn't a problem in removalverse. You have plenty of board clears by 7th turn.
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>>174771045
A 4 mana 2/2 that you can't use until the next turn and has a gimped evolution beyond that is 100% useless, dumbass.
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>>174770967
You can hit face with another follower,use dragonification and hit face for 5
You can leviathan for 6
You can disaster dragon for 6
Then all 6pp cost ones are 5

13 unavoidable face damage is fucking retarded and you're retarded for defending it
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>>174771104
>let's make sure Shadow cannot lose even if their opponent can deal with all of their board flood

>>174771045
The point is how to nerf him without making him useless. At 3-4pp he is useless because the deck has no targets. Restricting him to Dragon followers is a good fix because then it would only work with Ouroboros, making the combo much more inconsistent and only possible on turn 10.
I honestly think Zell should be nerfed to unplayability though. We don't need more dumb 10+ damage burst combos in the game.
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>>174771225
>You can hit face with another follower,use dragonification and hit face for 5
>You can leviathan for 6
>You can disaster dragon for 6
>Then all 6pp cost ones are 5
... Or you could play a single genesis dragon, not run the worst card in the game without an evolve point, and hit for 7.
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>>174771225
Just ward it, bro :^)
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>>174771225
Forte does more damage for only 6pp and an evo.
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Post your deck page

Also, can someone share me their pepecrafts? It is my weakness deck because I don't have Alberts
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>>174771225
>13 unavoidable face damage is fucking retarded and you're retarded for defending it
This, even the mighties alberto does only 10dmg max and you can only use him from 9 turn to do so much dmg.
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>>174771316
According to that logic you dont even need zell because you can just play forte at turn 6
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>>174771396
>Latham
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>>174771409
So we agree your retarded version of zell is literally useless. Cool.
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>>174771396
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>>174771467
Yes I agree that dragoncraft doesnt need Zell and that nerfing him into unplayability would not hurt dragoncraft at all
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>>174771396
>JO
>Forte leader
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>>174771494
Why Forest Neutralcraft?
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>>174771045
That's the dragoncuck way of balance. They cry about roach, they cry about Dorothy, they cry about Albert, they cry about Nep, but the moment you point out their bullshit they go on a defensive sperging out saying that this kills their craft and generally being drama queens.
Just looking at all their "fix" suggestions in RoB should've made that clear already.
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>>174771517
That's not what you were arguing. You thought he might somehow have a use because 'lol just use him with leviathan to do a shittier job than 1 card that doesn't require your evo point'.
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>>174771494
>Haven Neutralcraft
Do you not have any birbs for Storm Haven? That shit has stayed relevant for 3 expansions now, it seems like a pretty good investment.
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>>174771541
Cause i vial all my forest cards. That's the only craft i don't like in this game.
>>174771614
I wish, actually i like garuda style, maybe i'll make storm haven later.
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How about this for a forest legendary?

8pp
5/5 follower
Fanfare: if 2 other cards were played this turn for the rest of the game your cards are 5/5
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>>174771739
Kill yourself, roguenigger
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>>174771739
It needs to be 10pp
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>>174770371
>1 PP Craft Powers
>Can only be used once per turn

Forest: Add a Fairy to your hand.
Sword: An allied follower gains +1/+0 until end of turn.
Rune: Spellboost a card in your hand.
Dragon: Discard the lowest cost card in your hand at random, deal 2 damage to an enemy follower.
Blood: Deal 2 damage to your leader, 1 damage to an enemy.
Shadow: Gain 1 Shadow.
Haven: Restore 1 defense to an allied follower.
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>>174771823
hot trash
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nice balance, shadowbabs
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>>174771396
Been maining shadow since I started last year while dabbling with whatever I get cards for. Only made a Daria deck because I got 4 from release.
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>>174771739
This one is better
>1pp: Win the game
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>>174771823
Rune's ability is literally useless for dirt or any deck that doesn't run spellboost. Same for shadow.
Forest's is broken in T2 and Dragon's is straight trash except for certain variants of disco, even then they're running enough discard to never use the ability.

Gj designerino
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>>174771739
I actually like it. Though I'm not sure it would actually be good because it's a donothing that doesn't stop your other cards from being donothings.
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>>174771910
>go second
>lose
People will actually defend this in the thread
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>>174771972
>1pp: Win the game
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Is not running 1drops in roach otk actually a good idea or will I get shat if I take may out?
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>>174772161
>>174771972
>he doesn't know about the turn 1 power play
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>>174771823
2pp is better
Forest: add a Fairy to your hand, change its cost to 0

Sword: Summon a 2/1 officer

Rune: Add a 1pp spell who deals one damage to an enemy

Dragon: Discard one low pp card, draw one card

Blood: deal 2 damage to yourself, summon a bat, give it rush

Shadow: summon a zombie, it dies at the end of your turn

Haven: reduce 1 countdown to an amulet
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>>174772091
Get it with Wolf and it's only a 0PP do nothing. Now your Roach combos become incredibly easy.
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>>174771739
10/10, fills the slot of Forest's shitty offensive meme perfectly.
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>>174772258
Haven's is useless in certain deck builds, should be a heal or something generic.
Swords is fucking broken to fuck compared to the others and would wreck T2.
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whats your favorite meme cards combo??

Pepe + Cyclone
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>>174772226
Try it out, guaranteed roach can't be bad
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91656
need a win please
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>>174772374
Rise of the dead + catacomb.
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>>174772374
all JO combos
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>>174772271
You probably already kill with a 0 cost silverbolt though. It's a card that seems like it really needs to be built around to be particularly useful but forest already has no space and you can't build your entire deck around one specific win condition card since there will be games you don't draw it.
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>>174772258
Haven's is absolutely ridiculous for Seraph.
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>>174772398
Thanks Forte!
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forest legendary: roach princess
10 pp: fill your hand with 0 cost roaches
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>>174772258
>Rune: Add a 1pp spell who deals one damage to an enemy
All hail the new era of dshit
>Dragon: Discard one low pp card, draw one card
Don't force discard memes, this actually wouldn't even help discard dragon. They need more tools like Luxfang Kit, not more discard.
>Blood: deal 2 damage to yourself, summon a bat, give it rush
Literally useless, at least give it storm or something.
>Shadow: summon a zombie, it dies at the end of your turn
What is the point if it dies before you can use it?
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>>174772583
You can combo with Necroass or it gives a shadow when it dies. Not bad for a cheap effect
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>>174772581
please don't
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>>174772581
I can actually imagine Cygames doing that next expansion just to replace Haven with Forest as the class that forces games to end quickly.
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>>174772716
You can also Soul Conversion the zombie
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>/svg/ doesnt have a degree in game design

Thank god for that
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>>174773071
Neither have SV developers.
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Post budget decks for dailies
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>>174773071
you know that's about as useful as a film degree

are you 12
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>>174748527
Ayo m8 the signups are open.

Get the shadowmemes in there.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_8_Signups
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>>174773214
>2
>2
>2
>2
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>all these people playing pepecraft instead of the superior albertcraft
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>>174773071
I don't have a degree, but I actually have 4 years of experience in coding, maintaining and balancing a card game as one of the administrators.
I believe that I am more than qualified to shit talk about cygames and their retarded balance.
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>>174773436
I wonder how many Shadow players have cunnysquashed an Albert now. I just did so earlier in one of those very rare Sword games. I also Orthrused a frog too today thinking about it.
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>>174773523
Make a game about it
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>>174773631
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174773436
>tfw have 3 Otohime, 3 Tsubaki, 3 Saber nut no Alberthomo
I want my Otohime be relevent again
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>>174773631
albertcraft can shit on shadow pretty easily, it's just that people play it like a full unga deck, literally do nothing but go face
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>>174773865
>turn 9
>20 hp
>phantom howl
Nice B rank aggro shadow player you squashed there.
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>>174773865
>phantom howl
Good luck with 7000 zombei wall
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>>174773865
>albertcraft can shit on shadow pretty easily
No.
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>>174773865
>Having 20 HP against a Luna
Post replay. Bricks are not a valid explanation
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>>174774105
i would if i still had it
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>>174773947
y-you too
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>>174774276
Need private. 14864

Thanks.
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>>174774276
>not showing score
Typical low rank meme master
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I've started playing eternal and it's infinitely better than this. Glad I've moved on
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This class card has been objectively power creeped out of playability by a neutral card. What is it?
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>>174774565
fafnir
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>>174774565
Fafnir.
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>>174774565
Firstborn Dragon
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I need a concede please

50356
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>>174774551
Eternal is a literal early access, which doesn't even allow multiplayer.
Enjoy playing your unfinished trash
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>>174774565
Imperial Dragoon
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>>174774565
FARTnir
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>>174774603
>>174774607
Fafnir's ability is a fanfare, and Israfil's triggers when attacking. Bahamut costs 1 more PP, and also destroys the rest of your board. They are only (vastly) situationally better than Fafnir, not objectively. Try again.
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>>174774652
Thanks Forte
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>>174774656
>doesn't allow multiplayer
What's the point then? Winning against some stupid ai?
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>he hasn't started saving for the next expansion already.
500 gold here.
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>>174774761
Are you the Zeus > Genesis Dragon faggot from yesterday?
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Eris is my 17 y/o wife and Luna is our daughter!
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>>174774565
>>174774634
This. Firstborn Dragon is objectively worse than Grimnir
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>catacomb becomes "choose one follower to receive last words: summon skelly"
>eachtar only gives out a +1 boost
>soulsquasher is 3pp
>orthrus's fanfare becomes "choose an enemy follower to get hit for two", +2 ally buff doesn't trigger if there are no valid targets
>zell is 3pp
>sahaquiel is 8pp
>grimnir is 4pp and the enhance only hits enemy followers
There, I fixed it.
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>>174774680
Situationally better.

>>174774697
See >>174774761

>>174774634
CORRECT
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>>174774767
Its early access, so the point is using the cucks who play an early access game to sort out bugs, problems and basically perform free play testing.
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>>174774761
>>Bahamut costs 1 more PP, and also destroys the rest of your board.
>Ramp Dragon having a board
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>>174774854
>picking the worst leaders
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>>174774634
>>174774876
What in the flying fuck is Firstborn Dragon? Do you mean Imprisoned Dragon?
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>>174774887
>buffing orthrus by making her choose targets

Why do you sound like a pepe memer?
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>>174774656
This is a literal shitpost
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>>174774887
>Saha nerf
They will never touch cards from the previous expansions.
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>>174774918
>He does not know what situationally means.
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What decks other than saha can use israfil? Forest?
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>>174774887
how about
>catacomb is now "Give all other allied followers last words: Summon a skeleton"
>Eachtar gives +2 for each shadow
>Soulsquasher's ability costs 6 shadows
>Zell can only target dragoncraft followers and is a 3/3 on evolve
>Grimnir's enhance can not damage the enemy leader
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>>174775110
>Straw man
Point is Fafnir is garbage and Dragon runs several other leggos over it.
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>>174775010
It's really more of a matter of removing (what I think) is unnecessary randomness from the game. It's better to know that I got fucked over by my opponent is strategically targeting my valuable followers, instead of getting fucked over by RNG. I'm also a pepe memer but that's besides the point
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I was thinking of entering svg in the /vg/ league. Are you guys ok with it
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>>174775238
>Let's make the oponent make "strategic" plays while making him unable to make said strategic plays againt my frog
How awfully convinient. I'll take it though.
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I will crack 7 ToG packs, do I one by one or all at once?
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>>174775280
Sure go ahead
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>>174774887
Retard

The only fix Catacomb needs is:
- All your other followers receive the ability: Last Words: Consume 1 Shadow to summon a Skeleton
- Last Words: Summon a Skeleton

BAM

FIXED
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>>174775348
always do it one by one, so the game generates a new seed value for each pack
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>>174775348
One by one if you want more bronze/silver cards.
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>>174774894
>grimnir dies before turn 6 to assault werewolf while firstborn dragon doesn't
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>>174775463
Does it really work like that though? Why can't it generate one for each pack regardless, for example?
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>>174775280
That's pure cancer. But so is this general, up to Discordfags I guess.
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>>174771396
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>>174775463
If all-in they receive the same seed? Would a lucky seed be available for all of them then?

>>174775519
No more Bronze and Silvers for me please
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>>174775219
No, you really do not get my point. There are times where you would prefer to play a Fafnir than a Bahamut, but those corner cases hardly ever come up that it's better to play Bahamut most of the time.
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>>174775610
>>174775523
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>>174775560
Would a lucky seed be available for all of them then?

Yes, so it's all up to you if you want to risk it. Kripp opened 2 batches of 10 packs each, 1 batch had 3 legendaries and a bunch of golds,, the other had 0 legendaries.
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>finally rank up to A
>everyone is using the midrange shadow deck
epic
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>>174750898
Show me on the elf where she killed your bahamut if you don't have access to banish removal right fucking there.
>>
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//svg/

Some of those are lame as hell, suggest me better memes
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>>174775610
OK, you win. Fafnir isn't powercreeped because in a very unlikely situation the player would prefer to have it over Bahamut (they wouldn't ever).
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>>174775682
Went all-in, everything went better than expected as I didn't have those legos
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A 5 win take two as dragoncraft is a thing I did not expected to happen.
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>>174775965
Yep. totally in-line for a lucky result same as Kripp's. Congrats!
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>>174776031
Dragoncraft is retard easy in take two, if you get Orubouros and some ramp
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>>174775523
In order to do that, the opponent would have to play werewolf, and evolve it on the same turn, and Grimnir would've died regardless of the ability anyway.
>>
Just a reminder that viewers for this game have gone down hundreds of viewers for the top streamers (which is over half their viewers) and entrants to the weekly tournament for money have gone down.
TOG literally killed shadowverse. Remember when turn 5 evo albert was the scariest turn?
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Is there a better feeling than feeding shadowniggers their own board?
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>>174776509
So what is TOG scariest turn?
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>>174776105
I had no Ouroboros but faced two Ouroboros using dragoncraft opponents.
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>>174776634
shadow flooding the board every single turn
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>>174776509
Remember when albertniggers were the laughingstock of the entire game? Oh wait they still are
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>>174776634
Turn 3/4 catacomb prince
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>>174776634
turn 2 oracle into turn 3 oracle into turn 4 oracle into turn 5 sybil into turn 6 lose the game
Turn 6 instead of 5 big progress!
>>
REMINDER that

The only reason Shadow is Tier 0 and not Dragon, is because Phoenix Roost is -still- disabled.

There is an ultra powerful deck that you can make with Phoenix Roost that fucks you more than Shadow right now, but Cygames discovered it early on and preemptively disabled it.
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>>174776634

This shit:

>>174771910
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>>174776634
Turn 9 vs haven
Whatever they play, you lose the match
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>>174776634
What >>174776658 said probably.

Though I'd say ramming that full board to fuel Reapers is the actual slasher murdering and chopping his victim horrifically part. Or Eachtaring it, but at 7 PP+, that's just expecting the killer to obviously murder the teens having sex.

The stuff I've seen people do to get rid of a huge Reaper is funny. Seeing a Dragon player evolve and suicide Luci into a Reaper with 9 attack is great. One Dragon still running SahaLuci, summoned SahaLuci, just rammed the Luci, then evolved Saha to ram into it next when he could've just evolved the Luci.
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>>174776787
Its disabled because gawain cancels the match when he attacks with roost up though
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>T2
>haven, rune or blood

Which is the best choice here?
>>
what's even the point of draft when every game is decided by who goes second?
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>>174777186
It's Shadow>Dragon>Haven>the rest.

In T2 you rank classes by sheer value you can get cards as well as deck curve that doesn't fuck yourself.
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>>174777186
Pick Haven, easy 5-0 if you know what to do
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>>174777236
So why is haven good when it lost cudgel and themis?
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>>174777236
Wrong
Dragon>Sword>Rune>Shadow>Haven>>>powergap>Forest
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could i get a concede please?

34328

thanks in advance anon
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>>174777301
They still have tribunal and lion, plus wards and amulets and countdowns, and the biggest fuck you in T2, aegis. Haven will spend all their game warding, removing and healing, then he drops aegis and wins in two turns while you can't do jack shit.
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>>174777301
Sledgehammer, Ancient Lion Spirit, and Iron Maiden. Aegis, Seraph, Dark Jeanne, or Grail are closers. Good timing of amulets also allows strong tempo pushes.

>>174777306
>Sword that high
I don't think I've lost a single game against Sword in TT since ToG and I played over a dozen runs since then. Hell my most recent Haven run I remember playing two and they kind of just crumpled.
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>>174777441
thanks Eris
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>>174775463
reminder don't trust retards on 4chan who use words without knowing what they mean
SEEDS should not be reset since that defeats the purpose of seeding
ideally, there should be a single seed (or set of seeds depending on the details of implementation) that has been stored on the server at the start of the service, and that seed or set has been used for every pack opening since
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKOqN94aE0
Cygames, what the fuck is this supposed to mean
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>>174776634
T6 Saha+Baha+Zell
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>>174777831
To compete with guac boi
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>They removed the executable that unlinks an account from your computer
How the fuck am I supposed to use two different accounts on the same PC now
This is fucking retarded
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>>174776935
t. Shadowcraft disinfo agent
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>>174778740
>How the fuck am I supposed to use two different accounts on the same PC now
You aren't supposed to
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>>174779069
>You aren't supposed to

Yes you are, there's no reason why you shouldn't

t. Someone who saved his SaveDataDeleter.exe
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>>174771771
His Discord friends will reply to win. Don't worry anon
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>>174779130
I went to the /svg/ discord once, it really was one big circlejerk.
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>>174748324
Could you guys post some storm dragon lists? I don't have the legendary cards to build the ramp shit.
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>>174779204
3 x zell 3 x oracle, 3 x grimnir, 2 x aiela, 2/3 x scyther, 2 x urd, 3, rahab, 2 x fervor, 3 x sibyl, 3 x forte, 2 x israfil, 2 x ouro, 2/3 x baha, 2 x genesis
fill the rest with whatever, some options are dragon warrior, lightning blast, olivia, one more of the 2x cards etc.
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Should I sandbag back to B0 if my only good deck is Sword? I want to be able to do dailies.
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what do i change, i don't have elf queen so i just put fairy beast in
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Can someone please concede?

81198
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>>174779921
Take DoD out, it's not really viable in this Shadow meta.
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>>174779929
Thanks a lot, anon!
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>>174779921
You have Jungle Warden?
Remove 1 Angelic Snipe, Will and Elven Mage
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>>174780000
I can craft 2 more wardens, but I think I'll replace 1x feena instead of epm
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tfw nothing to IKUZO IKUZO about.
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>>174780060

MOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
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>>174780060
>royal banner
wow good job on beating a C rank shitter dude
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>>174780051
Yeah do that
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>>174780131
Hey thanks swordshit
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>>174780060
>>174780153
Must feel good to be in a position of power huh shadownigger?
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>>174780060
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174780195
It actually feels neat, thanks for pointing it out.

>>174780212
Lol why? I'm having a blast.
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>>174780060
You're cancer.
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>>174780239
I want all shadowniggers to be gassed by the nerfs.
FUCK YOU SHADOWNIGGER!
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>>174751780
thanks, google didn't get me anything.
>>
Why is Temple Defender allowed to exist?
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>>174780249
Not even, I'm not killing anything other than this one IKUZO buddy here. I'm also having lots of fun doing so, why are you up in arms about someone you don't even know anyway?

>>174780265
Scary! I'll just play the next god-tier craft then, not an issue.
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>>174780265
>>174780212
>have been shadow player since DE
>now being hated because bandwagoners

And fuck you guys too for not able to play around it.
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>>174780329
t. Lunapedo
Fucking gas yourself
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>>174780348
started playing this game two weeks ago, liked rune and shadow the most during the story mode, was told I was cancer reincarnated and should kms.
but the game is alive and being cancer can be fun so whatever.
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>>174780348
>Caring about what random internet strangers that have NO influence what so ever in your day-to-day life think about you

You must be above 18 to post in here.
>>
Does anyone have the new shitposting meta report? Are vampyposters still tier 3?
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>>174780337
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174780060
memebanner
Is it 2016 again?
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>>174780537
He is most likely playing unranked or low ranks
>>
Has the meta ever been this bad?
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>>174780337
Kill yourself you netdecking shitter

>>174780348
>b-but we used to be b-bad guys!
>b-but you can play a-around us!
Kill yourself lunanigger
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>>174780625
No never
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>>174780521
>>174780652
You guys keep repeating that, it's like you hate winning. But winning is so fun, so why wouldn't I play the very best decks available? You are all so weird.
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>>174780625
Have posters ever been so cancerous? Open confessions to netdecking and browsing reddit, posting facebook links, defending cancercraft
What the fuck happened /svg/?
>>
i agree with the internet bully
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>>174780721
>What the fuck happened /svg/?
/hsg/ refugees
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>>174780625
Release daria
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>>174780704
>You guys keep repeating that, it's like you hate winning. But winning is so fun, so why wouldn't I play the very best decks available? You are all so weird.
t. Juan, Netdecking King
>>
>>174780704
Kill yourself, Spike
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>>174780494
Tier 1 is "shadow is bad" and reddit posters.
Tier 2 is mastema and mom posters
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>>174780750
Most of those went back to Ungoro this month, so that is no longer a factor.
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It just works
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Convince me not to craft Minthes and Tyrants.
>>
a runecraft opponent playing d shift had lethal against me on the board but instead of just going face he played fate's hand first but had run out of cards so i won instead
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Could I please have a concede?
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>>174780847
It was never a factor, /svg/ is just shit
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>>174780765
Daria was a 100x more manageable than Shadowcancer and Ramp Dragon.
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>>174780750
I though they were happy with unko'ro and is jerking off over how great and diverse their meta is?
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>>174780921
>Daria was a 100x more manageable
No.
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>>174780917
>t./hsh/ refugee
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>>174780774
>t. Juan, Netdecking King
There's absolutely nothing wrong with copying strong decks and having fun with them, break out of your shell, there's more than one way of having fun out there friend.

>>174780783
If you know about Spike, you should also know they're essential for a card game to thrive -- Don't be delusional about your expectations.
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>>174780908
Thank you Roland
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>>174781037
how
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>>174780994
Git gud.
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You can play whatever the hell you want, and nobody should tell you otherwise.
The reason nobody likes Shadowfags though is that no other class is as likely as them to brag about winning with a T0 deck, and then point fingers when somebody calls them out.
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>>174781020
Said the filthy netdecker. Kill yourself you uncreative cocksucking subhuman netdecking monkey
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>>174781086
Pure luck~
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>>174781280
>muh netdecking
Stay bad, scrublord.
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~my name is lou....~
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>>174781280
There's absolutely nothing "filthy" about netdecking buddy, anyone in any area of life does research to get a leg up on their opponents.
Deck building is nothing but a luxury I hope you don't think that changing 2-3 cards around fits that "creativity" you speak of, because tweaking a deck is not building anything.
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Since mid shadow is supposedly Tier 0.
Can someone explain to me how to not autolose to dragon every game as long as they manage not to brick so hard as to have no plays for 5 turns?
Because any combination of a dragon 2 drop, grimnir, rahab, sibyl, saha israfil instantly wins them the game.
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>>174781416
>copying an overused and already proven deck from the internet is now researching
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>>174781357
The only scrub here is you, netdecking shitter.
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>>174781440
Sounds like you are playing aggro shadow rather than mid, if Rahab and Grimnir are actual trouble for you.
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>>174781532
Being purposely obtuse to try to prove a point is pathetic even for you, c'mon now. Put in a little effort
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>>174781564
Stay bad, shitter.
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>>174781627
Stay in B0 netdecking shitter.
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>>174781176
This pretty much. I hate dragoncraft too and think they are op as well, but dragonbros never brag and act smug (at least on the levels of lunapedos), in comparison to shadowniggers, dragonbros are shining examples of humility.
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>>174781416
Whoa nice research man holy shit wow we wouldn't have known about the dangers of Dragon and Shadow if it wasn't for you, thanks for risking your life man you mean a lot to this subreddit and community!

edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger!
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>>174781653
I'm in masters friendo
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>>174781598
Nah, I won't even bother.
There is no reasoning with low iq netdecking whores, as you will go to any lengths to rationalize and justify playing your cancer, so discussion is meaningless with your kind.
I'll just tell you to kill yourself as usual.
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174781759
>proceeds to post someone else's Masters screenshot
kys netdecker
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>>174781759
Clearly you don't deserve that position.
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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How do we purge the reddit netdecking cancer out of the general, /svg/?
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I thought the whole "dub vs. sub" and "SV vs. HS" arguments were retarded but this netdecker shit takes the cake
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>>174781820
>>174781861
Stay jealous, scrubs.
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I sold my TF2 unusual and have enough steambux to buy 2400 crystals. Is it worth it if I'm not buying Precons? I feel reluctant to buy precons as I don't want to dedicate myself to a particular craft too much. I've been playing for a month and a half.
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midrange sword is strictly better than midrange shadow
prove me wrong without resorting to totally accurate self reported meme stats
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>>174781938
>a netdecker
>a shadownigger netdecker, at that
>calls someone a scrub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPfWxul5F4
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>>174781898
purge yourself D0 shitter
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>>174781938
I'm in masters too, and unlike you, I reached it purely with the power of memes and just by having fun, therefore I can't be jealous of your netdecking kind.
You are the real sad case here, subhuman brainlet who keeps playing his t0 deck even after reaching master.
Truly I pity you, but nevertheless you must kill yourself.
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>>174782020
NASA never actually went to the moon
prove me wrong without resorting to totally accurate self reported landing images
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>>174782065
>>174782020
Kill yourselves, shadowniggers.
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20114 concede onegai
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>>174782065
How much research did that Shadow netdeck take you friend?
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A SIXTH MOTHERFUCKING FAIRY CAGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174782041
>>174782082
>implying
Eactar was the first card I crafted a few minutes after ToG came and I build the midrange version while everyone was still going on about aggro shadow. I just think that retarded faggots like you who constantly complain about netdecking for no fucking reason are the true cancer of this general. There is nothing wrong with netdecking. The far majority of people are netdecking and competitive people have to do it anyway. You are the loud as fuck minority that keeps shitposting.

>who keeps playing his t0 deck even after reaching master.
Shadow is my favourite craft but right now I'm mostly playing blood and sword. Hell I don't even play that much since the meta is shit.
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>>174782301
If you draw something once, your chances of drawing it again increases compared to cards you haven't drawn even once, that is how the rng works in this game.
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>>174780921
>turn 4/5 board flood with complete board control up until then and at least 5 face damage
Yeah, nah. Eat shit.
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>>174782380
>There is nothing wrong with netdecking.
You have to go back
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Is it worth crafting "staples" for a craft you don't really play outside of dailies?
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73843

Concede please
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>>174782605
Thanks anon
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I fucking hate Ledger Nep. It's fucking up my Dragon stuff because I have to tech Lightning Blast into my deck.
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>>174782380
>Eactar was the first card I crafted a few minutes after ToG came and I build the midrange version
Don't pretend to be a creative genius, because you are the exact opposite.
Various shadowverse sites, blogs and famous players already had their midrange decks lined up before the expansion hit, that any person could have and did indeed copy from.
Same for every other meta deck except kys blood (which emerged later).
People knew what they wanted, they prepared themselves with materials, they crafted whatever they wanted and they went into the expansion day 1 with their desired deck, everything else is fine tuning.
I also must add that Cygames itself pushed most of the current meta decks consciously, they specifically wanted ramp dragon and midrange shadow to be popular, they said so in the interview.
You didn't do shit.
Also while it is true that aggro shadow was more prevalent in the beginning, you cannot ignore the fact that people have been playing various midshadow decks since day 1 of the expansion.

>Shadow is my favourite craft
Just like how in Rob your favourite was Rune, right? Your favourites don't mean shit, you are the embodiment of a flavor of the month bandwagonner.
Kill yourself, disgusting netdecker.
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>>174782491
What would be the point of doing that?
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>>174782771
>I also must add that Cygames itself pushed most of the current meta decks consciously, they specifically wanted ramp dragon and midrange shadow to be popular, they said so in the interview.
Ah, yes. Of course. The "interview".
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I'll say this again.

If it wasn't for Mid Shadow and Dragonbitch, this would be one of the most diverse meta's in SV. There are a lot of fun decks to use. But because of those 2 decks, a lot of them are not being used.
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I played dragon for my ranked dailies and I lost the one game where I didn't draw zell against haven and he lived with 3 health

Do I really need to run gobus or is that going to hurt the deck more than it helps? Anyone tried gobus, is it better or worse?
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>>174782876
if it wasn't for midshadow and dragon you would be crying about 2 other decks like aegis, roach or midsword
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>>174782380
>>174782771
stop shitposting
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>>174782940
Aegis isn't even good.
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>>174782980
How do other control decks beat Aegis?
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>but bro
>SHADOW is the cancer! /svg/ has samefags complaining about it all the time! not us alberniggers playing 3 alberts 2 of them which are enhanced, one of them getting 2 more extra attacks with arriet and still losing!
>S-swordcraft needs a buff! How are we supposed to deal with shadow?!
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>>174781983
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>>174782980
yet if there was no dragon or shadow you would cry about it
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>>174783012
They use Aurelia and Forest Wardens while they're stuck with Cudgels.
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>>174782940
None of the 3 you mentioned are as tilting and as oppressive as Midshadow and Dragon.
Aegis is a joke anyway, Seraph Haven is still better, people only run Aegis because it is a new card, but they will go pack to Seraph sooner or later, I already seen some havencraft players use it instead of Aegis.
Roach and Midsword are little different from their RoB variants as they received little support, maybe Midsword runs 2 luminous mages and Forest runs some Aerins now, but that is it.
I didn't cry about them in RoB, I wouldn't cry about them now either.
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174783138
What ?
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>>174783083
YAMETE
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>>174783052
A rank? Nobody even runs sword in masters anymore, and those that do, just meme around with pepe instead of pure Albertcraft.
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>>174782828
What if there never was an actual interview. What if Cygames just sent over the list of cards to that IGN writer and the name of the Cygames contact and told him "just invent an English interview and publish it on your website"?
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>>174783197
could you please answer my question
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>>174783238
>>174783238
>>174783238
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>>174783148
trust me. you would find 2 decks to cry about since there would be 2 decks dominating the meta.
just think back to what you were crying about in DE and RoB and you will remember.
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>>174783219
AA0
Swordcraft is everywhere
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>>174783247
Some of the prebuilts are great value with the first-time deal for 500 crystals, but otherwise I wouldn't really recommend spending money on this game unless you really want cards
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>>174783052
>Pegasus Sculpture
How's D rank?
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>>174783291
I never cried about anything in De or Post Nerf Rob, stop projecting yourself onto me.
Rob was only bad prior to the nerf, and it still didn't suck as much as the current meta.
If Tog was like DE or RoB, I would be enjoying the game instead of sitting here and talking about how terrible it is.
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>>174783452
don't reply to esl shitposters
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>>174780417
that's a dank JoJo reference
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new player here, is 4 wins standard in take two or do I just get matched with other newfags?
So far there seems to be no reason not to play t2 with all your rupies since it's not hard to get more value than 100=pack.
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