/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>>174726605
They spawned at the literal other end of the galaxy I have no way to get to them. Only good news I think is to get to me they have to go through both an awakened empire and the second largest empire next to me.

>it's a "4x related OP and not autism spiders" episode

>>174726859
I need more Stellaris related images that could be good for new OP's. Go ahead and give me some to save

>>174726749
Whats the best loadout for any Unbidden work?

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>>174727025
>2200 ad
>not having a folder of stellaris images

>>174726782

Enjoy seeing another empire getting wiped out. They exterminated the fanatical purifier empire, a fallen empire, and most of a migratory flock empire.

If your galaxy can't handle it, another portal will spawn a rival dimensional invader once they own 15% of the galaxy within within 12 months. A third rival will appear 23 years later.

>>174727068
>another portal will spawn a rival dimensional invader once they own 15% of the galaxy within within 12 months. A third rival will appear 23 years later

I wonder what life in their realm is like. Maybe they're the ones the prethoryn are running from

>>174727049

Kinetics and lots of shields. Arc Emitter X weapons, are good agains them.

>>174727201
I doubt it, the unbidden are just after energy, they're not specifically hunting the Prethoryn.

>>174726782
You will get alliances and open borders with everyone after the first two empires getting raped to death
If you do decide to get your hands dirty, ditch all your armour for shields and invest on some arc emitters too

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>>174727068
As you can see they are very far away and I cant get to them. Are you saying that if the awakened empire fails to beat them and they reach me im fucked?
>>174727305
Thats good since everyone has like -1000 relations with me due to genocide.

>>174727049

You can turn their own weapons against them if you get some debris from them.

>>174727397
Do their own weapons get a boost?

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>>174726592
And done.

>playing ring galaxies

fucking why though

>>174727435

+50% Armor
+50% Shield

>>174727379
The fleet spam never stops, if they beat the awakened empire they will flood you, I recommend you give the mentally challenged AI a hand as soon as you can

>>174725910
Warp travel is the only thing worth having. Hyperspace is shit unless everyone is using hyperspace.

>>174727490
Flip deviants for solitary

>subterranean
kek

>>174727698
This.

>>174727642
git gud

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>>174727698
>>174727889
Done. Also tweaked flag a bit.

What makes a species turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with hearts full of neutrality?

anons, why mods dont work in stellaris? i mean, i install, and runs perfectly, but the modifications just dont happen.

>>174728181
Tried activating them in the launcher?

>>174727642
Wormholes are fine on smaller galaxies because you can micromanage the building of wormhole stations so it doesn't fuck your early exploration so hard.

On larger galaxies it's just not possible without some form of autism for micromanagement.

>>174727993
Why not fanatical purifier?

>>174728237
Mostly because I already made a Fanatical Purifier empire and I like to keep my selection diverse.

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>>174726675
Made friends with some cute Space Elves.

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>>174728181
You probably haven't switched them on in the game launcher. By default they're deactivated when you first install.

>>174728373
>cute

If you say so

>>174728237
>Why not fanatical purifier?

Because some of you guys are alright.

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>>174728373
>cute Space Elves.
>cute

Anon...I....

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Almost every empire has near instantly joined my federation in this galaxy except the fanatic purifiers, but I'm sure they'll wipe each other out.

>>174728373
It looks like it has a few extra chromosomes

>>174728373
Flamboyant Diplomats is not an AI personality type I'm aware of.

>>174728431
>>174728228
yes, i did, but they dont change anything for some reason

>>174728373
Oh god my sides, Down Syndrome Elves

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>>174728681
It's from the More AI Personalities.>>174728681

What ethos go well with fan materialists? I just want to be left alone so my people can focus on making fuckbots

>>174728764
Any mod in particular that isn't activating? Did you get it off Steam or install it manually?

>>174728237
>autism for micromanagement
Yeah because building wormholes at the edge of other wormholes requires autistic micromanagement. Once you get one or two upgrades for it then they cover a massive area and it doesn't really matter. It's more of a mild annoyance at the start.

>>174728818

Pacifist.

Isolationists are typically xenophobic pacifists, with any being fanatic, or a free 3rd pick.

>>174728818
Xenophobe for dat border expansion.

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Pacifist player here. Fixing to start my first militarist game. Throw me some ship designs/advice.

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here we go

>>174728901
On a huge galaxy? Dunno m8, seemed like too much of a ball ache to me even with the larger range.

Compared to warp travel where you just build a few science ships at the beginning of the game and click auto-explore and forget about them.

>>174729147

Don't forget to pick a tech m8

Aside from Role Playing, picking Fanatic on your ethos is pretty meh, right?

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>tfw you keep getting trash research early game

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>>174729147
i think i only lost a handful of cruisers

hopefully no FE will wake up in the 50 years it takes to get the dragon loot.

So its been about 20 years since the Unbidden showed up and besides eating the nation that spawned them they havent done anything. Is that normal?

I wish some of you autists could make a mod out of all your custom empires and share.

I suck at creating them.

>>174729274
It used to be way better when the fanatic was 3x the base instead of just 2x.

>>174729047
Be xenophile and a charismatic species so your conquered ayys are actually happy about the whole thing.

Don't build battleships they're not cost effective for what they do, bulk of your fleet should be cruisers with M slots full of plasma and one L slot with kinetic artillery, backed up by some cruisers with flak guns if you're against frigate/strikecraft spammers.

Adjust your tank to either mainly shields or mainly armor depending on your enemy's prefered weapons.

>>174729047
Stay away from lasers
Invest on Spaceport techs and minerals
Large fleets beat high-tech fleets
Dont bother with Cruisers
Be angry
Militarist pops are happy when in war so dont overthink it

>>174729502
>Dont bother with Cruisers
>>174729494
>bulk of your fleet should be cruisers

Uhh

>>174729382
>who knows what treasures the creature might have amassed over the eons
>turns out it was just protecting it's baby

;__;

>>174729620

>last of its kind
>not a great treasure

Is plasma obsolete or there are other viable builds? Are bombers/attack craft any good?

>>174729047
If the empire you want to declare on didn't close its borders to you, it's a good idea to send a single ship to their capital to see how their fleet is composed and how large it is in advance.

>>174729502
>Dont bother with Cruisers

What should he use instead? Battleships are slow as fuck and get shredded by X slot weaponry that struggles to hit Cruisers, whilst Destroyers and Corvettes can't mount enough defences to survive in mid/late-game fleet actions.

>>174729587
>dont bother with cruisers
Hes probably the corvette spam memer. Dont listen to him. Cruisers are king.

>>174729587
Cruisers suck dicks
Just get destroyers with large slots for rock throwers and designated PD destroyers
Throw some torps in your corvs
Bother with battleships only after you get the special slots for taychon and shiet

>>174728861
installed manually, extended traits, guilli planet modifier, epic battles, none of those work

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>>174729620
>>174729697
>still no mod that lets my empire live in unity with Ether Drakes and make the rest of the galaxy not even dare to fuck with me
Maybe NSC with the Leviathans shit but I don't like NSC a whole lot

Then we sat on the sand for some time and observed
How the oceans that cover the world were perturbed
By the tides from the orbiting moon overhead
'How relaxing the sound of the waves is,' you said.
I began to expound upon tidal effects
When you asked me to stop, looking somewhat perplexed.
So I did not explain why the sunset turns red
And we watched the occurrence, in silence, instead.

>>174729819
>taychon
>Cruisers suck dicks
>destroyers with large slots
>PD destroyers

Fucking hell, have you played since 1.0?

>>174729620
thanks, now i can't kill it for every other game it's in.
>>174729802
destroyers with L slots could just hang back wile cruisers tank the damage.

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>>174729697
Wasn't the last of it's kind until you came along, you monster.

Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature.
An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature.
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skill and natural defences.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents.
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilised to aid in locomotion
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotions.

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>>174728181
Are you a pirate?
You need change path in descriptor or it will not work.

>>174729931
>destroyers with L slots could just hang back wile cruisers tank the damage.

Yeah, that's what I do but he's saying don't use cruisers at all....so what's going to tank the damage? Battleships can't because they don't rush into close range so your destroyers will still get mauled.

Do regular AIs ever manage to get their shit together enough to field awakenings or crises by themselves?

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neat

>>174730062
Hip hop version is the best.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0mw2X7S3kE

>>174729929
I mean X slot in general, I switch my weapons around depending on what I am going up against

You can get 3 destroyers for the price of a cruiser and have the same damage and more evasion

I put PD destroyers because I like having a screen in the front line too for my Dreadnaughts

Is it still possible to win battles with nothing but corvettes?

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Why is there no endless space 2 posting?
Rate my empire

>>174729929

Are taychon bad in the current build? Should I pick arch emitters instead then?

>>174730882

giga cannons all the way

>>174730521
AE's can but I've never seen a regular AI do it unless they get lucky and the crisis aggros them really early on, like Unbidden apprearing inside the territory of a major empire.

>>174730579
The Shroud is such an edgelord.

>>174730882
Giga cannons > Everything else.

space nazi music done right desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlFvp8j6d8

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>>174730882
GIGA CANNONS NIGGA

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>>174730498
here's my general purpose cruiser, little under half/quarter of my cruiser fleet is this: the rest are plasmaboats
>>174731016
the shroud's a goddamn tease, i didnt get my avatar after all. psychic conclave confirmed for brainlets.
>>174731070
you misspelled arc emitters.

>>174730726
Maybe. For some reason if you split corvetts from your fleet and send them ahead you'll get a much better result.

>>174730882
They're the second best type of X weapon, followed by arc emitters and whatever shit missiles get. They're not mad, it's just that everyone is a minmaxer and wanks to kinetics which are indeed the best.

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>>174731016

They are a Chaos gods on a good mood. What do you expect?

>>174731086
United Empire are Stalinists tho....

>>174731246
>Have yet to meet a single god
>Have yet to achieve shields.
I got psi jump drives at least.

>>174731182
Same thing happened to me I didnt get anything at all.

>>174731217
Probably because otherwise cruisers rush ahead and get slaughtered first

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>>174731182
>Autocannons
>More than one flak
>No armor at all

>>174731182
>>174730882
This is a good example on why you should throw some arc emitters in your build too

>>174731246
Reminder not to play children's card games with tzeentch

I tagged over to another empire because their fleet size seemed bullshit compared to mine
They're at 111/74 ships
Is this normal? Do I also need to go above capacity if I have lots of energy income still?

post mods

>>174731182

That cruiser is the biggest steaming pile of shit I have ever seen

>>174731672
Hey, at least he didn't stick a bunch of missiles on it.

>>174731480
>>174731672
flak is fucking necessary when you eventually take on a FE/AA

but youre right about the autocannons.

>>174731480
Those aren't autocannons Anon, that's kinetic artillery II.

>>174731621
Yes. The fleet cap is more of a suggestion.

>>174731998

Have they nerfed autocannons?

Just found the shieldworld that is a Gaia planet with 4 obelisks floating arround it in space, the first time I got it I did all the quests that inprove happyness, later an unknown fleet showd up and fucked me in the ass. I colonized the world again, will the fleet show up if I don't do the quest this time?

>>174732020

Can't use kinetic artillery in mediums, dumbo.

>>174732020
Wait no.
Seriously what the fuck. Sorry >>174731480, giving that other retard the benefit of the doubt was too much, so was looking at the pic quickly.
Jesus fucking Christ, seriously now. Autocannons II. I've seen it all now.

>>174730726
Only early game. Late game, high-level shield regen and high armor/HP means that corvettes just can't take or dish out enough punishment to tangle with massed cruisers/battleships with all the flak/strikecraft and accurate M slot fire that it involves.

I consoled myself a fleet of about 800 top-tier corvettes to see if I could take an FE fleet that was 10k strength below it, and it just got shredded, took out about four of their battlecruisers.

Kinetic artillery in every cruiser and battleship, is it a good move?

>>174732020
did you not see the big M in the port?
>>174732057
they're only good vs high evasion targets (but so's everything amirite?). besides that they get no bonuses vs armor or shields, and their short range is prohibitive.

>>174731998
Yeah, but you don't need multiple flak guns. It's so deadly against strikecraft, one per cruiser is fine. Anything over that and you'll just massively overkill the strikecraft, then be left with mediocre dps against the rest of the fleet.

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Welp im bored so im gonna call the game here. Its 2400 the Unbidden havent done jack shit all game just sitting there chillin. Humans are the largest species in the galaxy by a massive margin with 2nd place having about 150 pops. I conquered one ancient empire and took all of their ring worlds but the real prize was the salvage which gave me like 6 techs free. A fun fact of my game I found funny was the planet mojave when I colonized it was a desert planet then right after I got an event that terraformed it into a gaia world. Anyone else wanna see anything about my game before I close it and study for the next 3 days straight?

>>174732326
alright

also is upgrading thrusters worth it on anything larger than a destroyer?

>>174732349
hope you die and fail your finals faggot

>>174732574
;_;

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>>174730840
>-392 dust per turn

>>174732349
I want to see pics of all empires remaining please, also their relationship to you and each other empire. Thank you.

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>>174732194
Yeah, gives you the ability to start popping their ships from extreme range as you close in and knocks out their shields ready for close-range plasma.

>>174732760

>build something
>get a million dust anyway

UE are broken

>>174730840
ah endless space, made me fall in love with space 4k, then moved to Stellaris, and now it looks too small, didn't know 2 was out, is it much better?

Does a hull regen build work at all or are shields strictly better than it, which is in turn strictly worse than armor?

>>174732976
Don't they get influence instead of dust for building shit?

>>174732547
I upgrade my cruisers just so they get into range quicker, their evasion still remains shit-tier. Battleships...I wouldn't bother, they're slow as fuck regardless.

>>174732906

>not using L L M M setup with KA KA Flak Flak

Too many queers in this general don't like DAKKA

Is there any way to increase how many tiles a planet have

>>174732906
is it better than the hypercanon or lance?

where can I download the newest patch to ck2 guys?

>>174732997
2 isn't "out" yet, it's early access. Moving to an actual release in a month.

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>>174732846
Not many. Only this guy and the one below him are of any note everyone else has like 4 planets.

>>174733087

Dunno, last time I played any leftover production was turned into dust or something to that effect.

What's the best settings in Stellaris to make a highly contested galaxy that doesn't end up getting demolished by a few aggressive AI before I meet them all? I've been testing different settings but they always end up shit.

>>174733059
hull regen becomes godly late-game when you can stack multiple repeating hull HP techs. Then the hp-regen becomes noticable and you end up with essentially free shields.

That said, plasma is very common amongst the AI so going without shields completely is still a bad idea.

tl;dr it can be useful late-late-game, particularly with living metal, but not so much the rest of the time given your limited A slots.

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>when you watch the army unit you've had since the start of the game die from retarded pathing
good night 1st Exo Forces, you've lead over 1000 planetary invasions, now you finally rest

>>174733218
>no more FE/AE
>crises did fuck all
>everyone pathetic +2 equivalent
yeah nothing else to do. What year did Unbidden spawn? Weird they did fuck all.

>>174733102
I use dedicated flak cruisers and L destroyers for those roles.

That's just my general purpose damage dealer.

>>174730687
why i am hitting replay

>>174733148
p sure that's a cruiser

i say arc emitters.

>>174733482
yes, it is a cruiser, I was talking in general,if a X weapon was more cost efective than KA

>>174733148
X slots are great, but you can only mount them on battleships, which means you'll lose battleships to return X fire.

Everything else doesn't tend to suffer to much, X turrets struggle to hit even cruisers once their engines are upgraded enough.

If you haven't brought battleships, a lot of your enemy's X slot damage will be wasted and likewise, a lot of your X slot damage will get wasted unless your opponent is spamming battleships.

Battleships are really expensive and slow to build too, more so than the equivilent strength in cruisers, which doesn't help.

Are torpedo corvettes worth it? What about torpedoes on crusiers?

>>174733697
Energy Torpedoes, yes, regular torpedoes, no.

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>>174726675
R8 me you nogloving faggots.

>>174733697
torpedos are good, just dont put it on larger ships, make torpedo boats with corvettes.

>>174733763

What the fuck is that background

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>>174733324
>Getting attached to disposable cannon fodder

>>174733383
They spawned like 2260ish they annexed the nation they spawned in then did nothing the rest of the game. I shit my pants the first genocide I committed and knocked everyone down to -200 relations thinking they were all gonna gang up on me all they did was close borders. Like really there is an empire that enslaves or genocides sentient life and conquers a quarter of the galaxy and all you do is close borders. Same thing with the unbiddened I was nervous they would snowball out of control and would eat me. Never did. I could conquer the galaxy but I feel that would be beyond boring I could also wait 15 years for mega structures tech to finish then wait another 20 to build a Dyson sphere but meh. At this point speed is like 4 days a second so im losing my mind. This was my first real game and I gotta say the best part was the end of early game. When I was in small scale wars and still exploring. Next game I do im gonna try and federate I guess I have a feeling this game may become samey after awile.

What ever is the point of building +3 mineral buildings on habitats when the energy building produces +10 and enclaves trade them with a 2:1 ratio?

Should I install nothing but kinetic artillery on battleship or mix it with some other weapon/size?

>>174733928

If you have x slots, use that over the L slot. Otherwise yes, KA everywhere.

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>>174733817
Pic related

>>174733697
With energy torps, yes. Otherwise, no, they get fucked by PD too much.

>>174733817
Some sort of faggy military LARP by the looks of it

>>174733763
>no bio
>meme triats that mean nothing
trash/10

>>174733697
torps are only good very early game then become trash once everyone has PD. E torps are good tho

>>174733928
Get a X slot for Giga Cannon, rest KA.
I usually make 2 or 3 with Arc Emitter just for cool lazors

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>>174733763
>no description

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>>174734039
Gotta get my space shekels

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>22 size Gaia World right next to a Holy Guardian
>Planet doesn't have the Holy World modifier on it
Am I being rused?

>>174734223

What's its name

are matter disintegrators better than plasma cannons?

>>174734223
totally not
:^)

>liberate some planets
>they close borders even though we're at +100 relations
any way to ask them to open them?

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>>174733862
>not honouring the templar that lead your great crusade

>>174734314
a what

>>174734041
I miss tachyon lances being meta, they made for cool light shows.

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>tfw too weak to stop this border gore

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So what do engineering bays actually do?

Is this still the ideal composition?

>Early Corbettes and destroyer.

>-4 corbettes per destroyer.

>Mid-Late

>-15 corbettes per battleship
>-7 destroyersper battleship
>-5 cruisers per battleship

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R8 my ships.
Fleet proportions written on. Currently have 8 battleships. Used it to destroy two FEs. Going to refit toward more kinetics for Unbidden.
Not sure what to put on medium slots other than flak. I tried a bunch of things and they hardly did any damage according to the battle reports, might as well default to flak.

>>174734429

What do you think it does, mate?

>>174734429
They used to give a tiny hull bonus.

>>174734314
Yes but they look shit.

>>174733862
>he doesn't get attached to his gene warriors

>>174734429
+50% repair speed when ships are in orbit
-5% upkeep to ships built in the station with the module

>>174734260
Zastea 3

>>174734487
Orbit makes sense, but I'm unsure about the Ship Modifier. Is that any ship that gets built there, or is it just for the space port?

If it's for any ship that gets built there, does upgrading your fleet there give it the reduced resource cost?

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>>174734470
>battleships

>>174734570
Well shit. Do you know if upgrading your ships there gives it that bonus?

>>174734773
pretty sure upgrading has a different modifier on its own

>>174734773
No, you have to destroy and remake your ships.
Same with the fleet academy module and its bonuses.

>>174733227
That is the Dust Windfall law from Industrialists. The UE's faction affinity gets them Influence.

>>174734485
>Torpvette with gauss

Neutron torps kill shields fast, I'd put plasma in the S slot so it can hurt armor too personally but I guess it works if you want it for just shield-removal.

>L Destroyer without KA

It's going to get too close with plasma and get shredded. Destroyers only survive as snipers.

>L Destroyer with KA and Flak

Works fine

>Cruiser with two L plasma and two Flak

I can't even

>Battleship with no tank

Oh I see, I fell for a bait post. gj anon.

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>fag declares war
>sends his all-disruptor fleet at my freshly up-armored ships
Nice.

First game in Utopia, got an awakened empire to join my federation right when the unbidden spawned.

>>174730446
still nothin changes

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>>174734550
>Gene Warriors
>Take as long as battleships to produce so you can't just delete them after use
>Expensive as fuck to maintain tho

Nigga, go clone or go home.

Disposability is the name of the game for ground combat.

>>174735075
Eh, I guess I can reform the destroyers into KA only. The "ignores 90% armor" of plasma was useful against the FEs.
Cruisers always rush in, might as well give them short range weapons.
Battleships already have their armor and huge HP pools and tend to stay far, so whatever the fuck. At least they're cheap.

If you WERE going to use battleships, what would you put on them?

>>174735601
Check the OP, there's a guy who wrote a pastebin guide where he describes what he'd use for Battleships.

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How should I make a race of alien spiders?

>>174735321
They're great for defending worlds at risk of invasion, though.

Clone troopers all the way, otherwise.

if they gave battleships a straight buff to HP and combat speed they'd be optimal right?

>>174735601

focused Arc because their double penetration feature is very unique

>>174735601

Giga Cannon or Meme Emitter on a spinal mount
Kinetic Artillery or Plasma Accelerators on the other L slots

Armour slots until ~75% armour, rest shields, shield capacitors on the A slots until you hit repeatable hull tech, then switch for regenerative hull plates.

>>174735758
>Spiders
Why are you summoning the spider guy

>>174735771

No, it's not HP or speed they need, they just need to reduce their cost or increase cruiser costs.

That's the problem with BS', it's more efficient to spam cruisers. 3 cruisers for 1 BS. It HURTS when you lose a battleship, because they are a huge time and mineral investment. It needs to hurt less.

what makes arc emitters so bad?

>playing commonwealth of man
>get sentient AI robots

Is the reason "we created them in our image" a good reason to not enslave them?

>>174735993
Slavery is bad m'kay.

>>174735993
RP it however you want.

>>174735771
>combat speed
Not needed.
>hp
I've been using this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/776095610 it seems like such a minor little thing, but the extra power this gives ships gives battleships a significantly larger boost than other ship classes and makes them veritable juggernauts of tank, enough to make them actually worth using since they get a proportionally larger boost from freeing up utility slots since they're all L slots. It's a pretty good mod, would recommend. They're still a fair bit more expensive than cruisers but their combat capability has gone up relative to cruisers too so it kinda balances out.

>>174735993

Can you even give them rights without becoming materialist?

>>174735915
RNG damage, balances out over time but even on average their damage is pretty meh taking a month to kill a corvette more often than not. XL mounts also suck since they have a limited firing arc unlike regular turret slots so they become more vulnerable to swarms and being attacked from behind by a fleet warping in.

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>Empire gets to blob to hell on the other side of the galaxy and I can't do anything about it
>FE awakens right next to me because of it
>They act like dicks and declare war on me

T-Thanks Johan

>>174736214
that's a no, tried that shit as a fanatic purifier. need to have some level of materialist or be a robo empire

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Would you say that the people in the medieval were xenophobe?

Want to create a (human) space kingdom. So if some aliens come and uplift the medieval earth. Authoritarian and spirtualist fit. Now I wonder what would fit as a third ethos.

Is it worth having at least one ship in a fleet with strike craft so you can initiate a battle sooner?

>>174736530
Authoritarian spiritualist xenophobe are the best choices if you're going that route yeah.

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>>174736508
>building battleships with under 1k power

you deserve it you faggot

>>174736508
>2330
>shit fleet
>shit tech income too
Mediocre desu.
You're supposed to at least be techy if you're doing the tall meme.

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>>174736508

>Everything's going fine
>Lose instantly in one year

Who thought this was a good idea

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>>174736508
>2336
>that fleet cap

>>174736530
they were more classist then xenophobic, but xenophobia gives best slavery mechanics

>>174736530
Nah. The medieval period was pretty open given how much trade and commerce played a role. Shit like the crusades were only profiteering by the pope in the guise of a spiritual holy war. Militarist fits better.

>2275
>finally get fortress tech
>immediately pop voidborne, master builders, and flesh is weak
>enough resources to immediately build 3 habitats
>my home system can hold 5
The galaxy isn't ready for this dicking

>>174736801
>all those destroyers
>all those battleships
>no corvettes
>strike craft
You're really bad at fleet design.

>>174736907

>Destroy enemy strikecraft
>Wow you're bad

ok

>>174735765
This is true. The only time I've had an invasion fail is against FE's with gene-warrior garrisons.

Do conversation responses really matter or are they really just for RP purposes?

Like when you're greeting someone for example

if I build a habitat in a syste mwithin my borders but without a colonizable planet, will that count towards my core system limit?

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>play fanatical purifiers
>make another human fan. purifier faction because apparently you can skill do diplomacy with them
>they hate my guts when I purge xenos

Dude, did you thought we meant purging xenos literally? Man, we were just talking about bad emotions and karma man.

>>174737314

It is core SYSTEM not core PLANETS

Is armor actually useful in this patch or is it shield meme all the way?
Cruisers and BBs seems like they could get a tin of ehp from armor as long as you don't run into plasma.

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>>174726675
Anyone here that could hook an anon up with the Stellaris OST, including Utopia's new tunes? I just really love it

>>174737443

Shields cost energy
Armor doesn't cost energy
Which do you think is better

>>174737489
Best song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC7m0FEAfQM

>>174737443
With neutronium ore, ether drake armour and like 2 repeatable armour techs a battleships can get to the 90% cap with two modules and go over the soft cap with a single one. If you're an absolute madman and play long enough to have 5 of the repeatable armor tech you can hard cap with a single module It's alright

>>174737350

>I like to murder people
>I meet a murderer
>I am worried he might murder me

That's basically it, m8y.

>>174737672
Nah, this is best song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csu6vbWA-YQ

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>>174736530
>So if some aliens come and uplift the medieval earth.

Probably Fanatic Spiritualist and Authoritarian if you're going medieval Europe, I wouldn't say militarist because that tends to imply (at least in Stellaris) that the entire society is militarised, where in a feudal system, only a tiny percent of the population are dedicated soldiers.

Slow learners because they're struggling to catch up with all the space-technology, but Adaptable because they're more hardy and used to living off the land than most space-age civilisations.

I was led to believe Curator researchers could trigger Mega-Engineering the same way a Voidcraft researcher can, is this true or not? My latest game tells me no

>>174729874
you have to make a workshop folder

just follow the readme

>>174737419
Yes but in that SYSTEM there is no colonized PLANET

>>174737672

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOQOwOnwAg

Only good track.

>>174737350
Bit like sticking two homocidal maniacs in a room together. They're unlikely to bond over their shared love of disemboweling and become besties, they're probably just going to murder each other, and they both know it.

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Is Technological Ascendancy a good first Ascencion Perk for a Science-focused empire, or is the +10% too bland to be worth it compared to other initial Ascension Perks?

Pls respond

>>174738010
better starting is voidborn

>>174738010
I prefer the border boosting one, the second tree I usually go into is supremacy and it makes your borders fucking enormous. Go fanatic xenophobe for maximum territory claiming too.

>>174738184
But I don't have Deep Space Installations technology yet

Did I fuck up?
Should I fill out other traditions first until I get that one, and then complete Discovery to get Voidborne?

>>174738263

>should I wait 70 years to spend my first ascension point, by which time I should have at least 3 points

I wonder

>>174738263
yes you did, by 2230 you should already have deep space instalations, pick mastery of nature as first then.
dont bother with the bonus tech, with voidborn you get habitat and they give tech till you are tired.

>>174738010
If you're roleplaying, it's one of the few that is purely scientific.

However, a 10% research boost is pretty underpowered compared to some of the stuff you can get, but not useless.

It's not a waste of an ascension point by any means.

>>174738390
>pick mastery of nature
I thought that'd be kind of useless as I already researched a bunch of the debris clearers that I needed

>>174737973
Fanatic purifiers don't murder for the sake of murder. They honestly believe the help humanity with it which makes hating another human who shares that ideology stupid.

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NICE

>>174738369
I mean, I could go and fill out other trees instead

I opened Discovery, filled out until Survey Corps, then dipped into Prosperity a bit and also into Expansion. Then I continued on Discovery and am now able to finish it off with one more Tradition, giving me my first Ascension Perk

At which point should you start building "sector" planets? Planets where you only build mining networks, power plants, etc.

Sectors costing influence to shuffle around and remove is stupid, honestly.

I guess you could make an argument for how it adds more weight to the decision but since Sectors are fucking annoying and broken in the first place, it just adds that much more bit of tedium and drain of purple mana to make it frustrating.

>>174738715

Day 1 desu

>>174738492
>Fanatic purifiers don't murder for the sake of murder.

The Imperial government is called a 'Blood Court' anon...

>>174737350
Is the +200 only if you share the same species?

When do you end a game, win or lose, in stellaris? Do you refuse to call it quits until your last planet is conquered, or do you capitulate as soon as you lose a war? When you win, do you consider yourself the victor when you're more powerful than everyone else individually, or do you paint the whole galaxy as your color?

>>174739003
Yes and? They're still not murdering for the sheer joy of it, they murder because they think xenos are a literal plague and blight upon creation and that by killing them they're making all of existence a better place for everybody, except everybody only includes their race. So two empires of the exact same race should not be getting pissy at each other for violently murdering xenos.

>>174738879
The entire system needs to be redone

>>174739003
>No Fanatic purifiers for hive minds.

Feels bad.

>>174728649
Federations are for cucks and little limp wristed fagets that can't stand the true face of the darkness on their own. Literally Star Trek SJW tier.

>>174737861
It is, I did it. But it took me a damn long time, I think it's because the tech is very unlikely before a certain year

Is there a mod so that you can rearrange things in your Outlier menu?

>>174739350

Soon, friend

>unbidden spawn at bottom of galaxy
>wipe out a few of my most productive planets and frontier outposts
>beat them when my doomstack comes back from campaign
>my shitty useless fucking retarded vassal state I uplifted then forgotten about literally stole all my land when I wasn't looking

>>174739246
I have 300 hours in the game and I've never "won" or "lost" a single game. I usually restart either when I've finished end game crisis and see that I can take on the rest of the galaxy single handedly, or when I see that there is no hope and no point in continuing.

>>174737861
>>174739437
Not having either Voidcraft or Curator gives a x0,25 modifier to the chances of it popping up.
Then you get x20 if you have a megastructure within your borders, x2 if you have the master builders ascension perk.

>>174739852

I had a megastructure (habitat), master builder, and curator. Nothing.

>>174740000
Habitat doesn't count.

which is the best trait mod for bio path?

>>174740069
I'm pretty sure it does

>>174740000
>>174740069
Yeah habitat doesn't count, oops. Only "galactic wonders" and ringworlds.
Also it starts with a x0,1 modifier in the first place. Hard to get unless you have a megastructure (habitat excepted) already.

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>>174740214

>>174740240

Huh, I guess it doesn't.

ALSO ALSO ALSO key ingredient: you need Zero Point Energy

>>174735238
WHERE DID YOU PUT IT?
sTELLARIS/MOD IS WHERE YOU SHOULD PUT UNPACKED MOD AS IN PICTURE.

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Does the spiritualist "We will remember you in our prayers" option change the outcome of the horizon signal chain?

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>>174736530
I went spiritual authoritarian militarists for my Medieval civilization, aliens can be serfs too under the caste system if they accept Jesus.

>>174739278
>one side decides that the other humans don't count as human for some reason or another
>wind up on the receiving end

>>174738472
don't listen to him, it's a shitpost
get the unity one instead

>>174741436
>unity
plain useless
pick border range

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UNNHHHHH
TALLERR

>>174741101
Anon this is not a society of rationalism or what ifs. This is a society that pure and simple sees another group of it's own race actively pursuing the only goal they have as a species. The eradication of all other species. They aren't going to sit and worry about what if they turn on us next because as far as they're concerned they're the same nation, the nation of mankind/ They're going to hold parades screaming HUMANITY FUCK YEAH and burn wooden effigies of xenos in celebration.

Has anyone ever taken consecrated worlds?

>>174741501
>wasting ascension on border range

L O L
Get the +core sector systems

>>174740925

Nope , you still have to kill him
but there is new flavor text

Is there a good build to rush Ringworld FE?

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I LOVE HYPERLANES

>>174741609

I have considered it , having a size 20+ planet with two -hab modifiers makes pop growth takes ages

>>174741875
Evading hostile fleet.

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>>174741559
UNNNFFFF

WIDER

>>174741875
>he fell for the hypermeme meme

>>174741609

Yes, it's really good. Lasts 100 years, costs 200 influence, +15% unity, 10% happiness and 10% growth speed.

>>174741875
Time to build tall!

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Ok

that's a restart

>>174742341

Wow, I've never seen someone get cucked so hard

>>174742392
I have in multiplayer
it was me
twice in a row

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>>174742341
wait I don't even have to restart LOL

epic, just epic

>>174741735
>wasting in core system
Jesus christ

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>>174742341
>>174742524

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>>174729281
>Get terraforming early as fuck still no climate restoration 30+ years later

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>>174742524
>>174742341
Christ

>>174741735
>wasting ascension on repeatable tech

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>>174741768
alright, good to know

>modify entire species
>go from transcended religious pacifist xenophobes to transcended smart religious militarist xenophobes

>>174737973
No anon stop.
they are the same race.
So killing filthy xenos should boost reputation with each other.
And its easy to do considering that fanatical purifiers of different spices still suffer -1000 penalty.

>>174742765
Yeah, because humans have never wiped out other groups of humans over petty differences before amirite?

>be human
>achieve ftl
>be xenophobic
>find a species exactly like your far away from where you live
>OF COURSE YOURE MEIN FRENDO
obviously they think they are filth aliens disguising as themselves to put a knife in their backs.

did paracucks screw up fallen empires? none of them have authoritarian/egalitarian ethos

>>174743293

Xenophobic humans who want to purge xenos shouldn't get mad at other humans for purging xenos. They can get mad at them for other reasons but not that.

>>174742765
Or alternatively, they watch each other bombarding ayys into paste from orbit and start freaking out that they might be next.

The text; >>174737350 clearly shows they're worried about anyone who isn't part of their particular purity party being 'corrupted by alien influences'.

This is like suggesting communists and fascists would be best friends because they both like sending political dissidents to prison.

>>174743439
The fuck would a fanatic egalitarian FE be like?

>>174743293
You're still thinking in rational terms. These aren't rational people. They're more like two different KKK chapters lynching black guys. They're not going to suddenly worry about the other chapter thinking they might decide they're black too now. They're just going to be happy a black guy got lynched.

>>174743553

>starts with a ruined ringworld
>lets you take over it

I'd be game

>>174743553
space napoleon

>>174743293
We talk about fanatical purifiers in Stellaris.
They exist for sole purpose of extermination of xenos.
If you make 2nd empire of FP with the same spices - they are the same.
Both can not purge their own. Game and they see each other as one race.
Killing xenos is their holy purpose.
Its not NKWD officer and SS officer met each other in the park at night.
Its 2 SS officers meet each other in the park where park is filled with subhuman xenos.
And do you think that one of them gonna be angry about other one killing xenos or he will say oh no killing xenos is bad?
No they gonna kill xenos together.

>>174743553
Both come with the militarist ethic.
The authoritarian FE conquers and vassalizes everyone.
The egalitarian FE seeks to make every planet in the galaxy independent.
Obviously, only if you colonized too close to them, otherwise they're rather passive until they awaken.

>>174743442
It says 'Genocidal' not 'Is hurting the poor ayys ;__;).

They're freaking out because you've shown you're willing to ruthlessly exterminate out-groups and they're an out-group and worried their next on your list. Sure you're the same species, but you're a different culture, one that's CLEARLY been corrupted by ((((aliens)))).

It's the old 'First they came for the ayys, and I didn't care, because I wasn't an ayy' arguement.

Basically the reason /pol/ wants to exterminate Islamists, despite having essentially the same views on a whole range of issues; they're dangerous and not us.

>>174743757
But they clearly believe, according their statement, that you've been corrupted.

So it's not two SS officers, it's two SS officers, at least one of whom believes the other to secretly be a communist who's trying to undermine the glory of National Socialism from within.

>>174744064
That is fine but its like they get angry at each other by killing commies.
Oh no he kill 1000 commies and do exactly what I do. So he must be commie lover. Bullshit.
I do not mind them getting paranoid over border friction or even without reasons but them getting angry about purging xeno have no sense.
It would be make more sense give penalty for actually not killing xenos(as they lack conviction) or if there would be diplo events about paranoia but now its bullshit.

>>174744330
There is a simple answer to all of this:
It's an oversight and Paradox is lazy

>>174744330

Hoooooooly fuck dude it's a game, they are two different factions, it's coded in a way that they are different species. Fuck off already, jesus christ

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>>174744439
Well I can agree with that.

>>174744463
But its not anymore.
Game see them as the same spice. One FanPur can not purge another if they are the same spice in game terms.
So not only you are wrong but also a faggot.

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Should you replace plasma with matter disruptors if you got access to them?

>>174744439
yeah

>>174745718

They do extra damage vs shields so they're shit. Maybe replace kinetic artillery with them if the range is good.

>>174745718
I don't, purely because the matter dispruptor effects/sounds are pathetic. They are functionally slightly better though.

Wish there was a mod to replace weapon sounds, pretty much all the weapons in Stellaris sound like shit.

>>174745998
>Have an entire fleet of kinetic weapons
>It sounds like a muffled "putputputput"

>>174745998
Kinetic Artillery sounds pretty decent.

>>174746707
Yah, but it could sounds better.

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>>174726675
AVE CAESAR
AVE IMPERATOR
AVE AQUILA

I haven't played stellaris since version 1.2. Is it fun yet? Can I be a small jew empire and get rich and stay technologically ahead? Can I build super fortresses to defend against bigger empires death stacks?

>>174747259
Literally the only fun looking roman empire ever posted.

>>174747259
pretty nice.
just drop conformist and give them stronk

>>174747259
>Space Roman faction
>Not human

Dropped.

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>>174747859
IS this what you're looking for?

>>174746707
it's a giant fuckoff railgun
should sound like one
need more BRRRRRRT on the rapid fire weapons

>>174748024
I hate how humans look in Stellaris

>Capture enemy planet
>Go to work on it
>There's some Betherium
>They put their fucking capital building on top of betherium
How can the AI be this retarded

>>174748208

At least they put it on an energy spot

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>>174748208
>play multiplayer
>take over where some guy stopped last
>planted their colony building over one and built farms over the other two on that same planet

What's the max size a home planet can have? Can you restart over and over again to get a 25 tile home planet?

>>174748614
I think home planets are static in size and amount of tile blockers. I've never had more than 16 tiles to start with.

>>174726675
Do I have to buy stellaris DLC? Or is there an activator like CK2 and EU4?

>>174748992
Every paracuck game has an activator. Google it.

>>174748614

Just get the All Homeworlds Have 25 Tiles mod, fuck 16 tile homeworlds

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What Galaxy size and shape do you prefer?

>>174748024
>implying clothing wouldnt change over millennia
someone should make a SPACE roman mod

>>174749220
4 spiral
im attempting to play with 1750 stars my current playthrough

>>174748964
are you playing on the Sol System?