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Roached: >>174595929
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>>174623968
How do we fix shadow and bring it up to being playable again?
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post armpits
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>>174624028
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>>174623968
Muh dogs https://my.mixtape.moe/siyfol.mp4

I love my dogs (shemale).
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>>174623968
Delete this
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Post non-lewd elf
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>>174624162
Is this THE best armpit in SV?
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>>174624198
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>>174624170

>didn't evo the reaper
Stopped watching right there.
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My wife Mastema is BIG and CUTE
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>>174624456
We just can't expect.much from Shadow babies.
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>>174624336
dirt is the cousin of daria and dshift, and by family association deserves to be bullied
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>soulkek getting rekt as """"""""mid"""""""" shadow by dragon
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>>174624519
I enjoy playing mastema blood. She's actually pretty damn good and I get my dailies done with it very fast
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Post your cardfu, /svg/.
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>>174624764
>mastema
>good
stop memeing or some poor retards will believe your tales from D rank and waste vials on her
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Question: Why don't shadowniggers run shadow dragon?
It should be viable now because of all the skeletons would be guaranteeing the stealth tick.
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>>174624752
mid shadow is overrated garbage
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>>174624821
CLAIMED
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>>174624931
Kill yourself, falseflagging shadownigger.
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>>174624821
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>>174624170
MOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>174624886
>waste vials on her
>not a legendary card
?
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>>174624886
Mastema is unironically good, kill yourself shitter
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>>174624908
Shadowniggers can't argue when they're angry, anon
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36621

concede please
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>>174625040
>>174625025
stop memeing you faggots, she is horribly slow and doesn't fit any aggro decks
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>>174624886
But she's not bad.
I can get wins with mastema blood in master rank.
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Is keeping sibyl in starting hand good
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>>174624821
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>>174625150
>doesn't fit any aggro decks
Which is why we are playing her in midrange, retard
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>>174625213
Depends on the match up. Against aggressive decks that can rush you down, no.
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>>174625150
Works for me :^)
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"""""Midrange'""""" is my favorite tcg meme.
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The Legendary Guard
2pp Sword
1 6
can't attack.
whenever an 1 attack enemy follower is summoned attack it.
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>>174625213
I would keep her depending on the other 2 cards in my hand
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>>174625253
how the fuck do i know in what deck you play her you stupid nigger
6 turn - do nothing
i mean you will be already dead against aggroshadow or bahamuted next turn by dragon so i guess it's ok
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>>174625024
Non-mom match for you https://my.mixtape.moe/vwgmha.mp4
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>try to play ledger Nep again
>draw 2 mordecais and 2 kamuras on the first turns
>never have enough shadow for turn 6 death's breath
>never draw Nep

What a fucking shit deck. Catacomb is literally holding this shit craft together.
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>>174625213
maybe in a mirror match, but it also depends on your other cards because you'd rather keep oracle 100% of the time
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>>174625213
As with all things
Depends on match up and your other cards

Do you have a 2 pp play? Do you face shadow /sword or dragon?
Against dragon you want fervor over sybil in almost any case to draw you bahamut,ouro, zells
Against shadow you want sybil over fervor at all times

If you have no early plays, no salamander, hard mulligan for it instead and throw her away
Sybil is nice, but if you face a 10/10 reaper she won't help you
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>>174625213
only if you have dragon oracle and are not vs shadow.
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>>174625463
Neph is such retard deck to pilot.
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>>174624908
>shadow dragon
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>>174625463
>he fell for the "nep is good"
did you also put ledger in there?
next time you should try mastema blood
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67357

please concede
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>>174625447
>how the fuck do i know in what deck you play her you stupid nigger
The Mastema deck that we are using has been posted several times this week in various threads.
>6 turn - do nothing
5 turn do nothing actually, speak more retard. You literally don't even know what card we are talking about.
>i mean you will be already dead against aggroshadow or bahamuted next turn by dragon so i guess it's ok
Mastema blood beats both of those quite consistently as long as it goes first, midshadow is a different matter though.
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I haven't played since Daria meta, what is the new meta?
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>>174625657
i think he meant phantom dragon
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>>174625356
>>174625443
>>174625471
>>174625478
>>174625547
retards you don'tn eed to think in card games just auto pilot bro
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>>174625672
no
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>>174625882
who hurt you
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>>174625882
I hope someone autopilots a dick into your mouth, anon.
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>>174625660
I didn't fall for anything. I've played Nep through most of RoB because I had no choice until Albertcraft became unbearable.
Just wanted to see if the early game is somehow better now, which it only slightly is. I guess gimping half your deck would do that.
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>>174625780
>turn5
ok man
as you said "turn 5 - do nothing"
literally beats every deck and it's a secret tier0 which japs simply didn't discover yet
my bad
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>>174625462
>shadow "flood board every turn" is fine
Eachtar also is such bullshit card.
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>>174624345
Don't know, a surprising amount of cards in shadowverse have openly visible armpits
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>>174625809
Eachtar midrange and wallet dragon
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>>174626004
literally no point of playing her when eachtar exists
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>>174625885
>>174625672
please send help, i have no friends
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>>174626050
Good thing you understand
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>>174626176
waifu
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>>174626239
>ding dong
And I wonder why
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Post god tier art

http://sv.bagoum.com/cardSort
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>>174626050
>literally beats every deck and it's a secret tier0 which japs simply didn't discover yet
who even said this other than your cock addled brain you stupid faggot
dont make posts that expose your mental illness you dumb son of a bitch
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>>174626420
You made me click that shit 16yo gook site. Fuck you
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>>174626420
if you pay attention this card is pretty
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>>174626553
I didn't make you do anything, you pea-brained autist.
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>>174626004
>Nep
https://my.mixtape.moe/yjdxym.mp4
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>>174626420
>2 tails
Does she have two vaginas?
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>>174626176
I got bored of playing the same shit already.
Also forgot to mention that as soon as I switched to her I've been matched with literally nothing by roach elf, Aegis haven and Dshift.
Not a single dragoncuck in sight. The game IS doing this on purpose.
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reminder
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>>174626420
Who can even like that crap
She looks like a wakfu character or some shit
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>>174623968
would anyone be kind enough to post a face dragon or a storm dragon deck?
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>>174626695
Maybe more. Imagine.
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>Reply to posts in the thread
>No reaction for hours
>Go to sleep
>Suddenly got mentioned a lot
>New thread came up
sadfrog.jpg
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>>174624821
>mastema already taken

oh well, best tits coming through
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>>174626782
Taste is subjective
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>>174626782
>not liking wakfu
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>>174624908
>why don't people run a 1 health stealth minion post tog?
Bruh
Look at the cards when you're playing.
Look at their effects.
Apply critical thinking.
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>>174626473
im sorry i made you upset
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>>174626668
>pea-brained
Is that what illuminati call people?
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>>174626668
Why does Gabriel expose her legs to the world
Disgraceful
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>>174626860
Why are her tits so goddamn big?
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>>174626679
>Mom, look I've played a card Dad brought me after I was crying so hard and generally being hysterical
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>>174626991
shrinking and enlarging yourself constantly had some "drawbacks"
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>>174626991
Because some people just have big tiddy genetics
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>>174626935
Nobody runs angelic barrage anymore, so it could legit work.
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>>174626991
>*Gasp* I'm getting bigger!
Getting "bigger" is literally her power anon
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>>174626860
>Sakuna, Brave and Small
>Brave and Small
>Small
>has fucking cowtits

>>174626989
Gabriel is pure, she can do whatever she wants because she is not a sexual being
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93166
plz concede
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>>174626991
Because it makes my dick hard
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>>174626860
I want to
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>>174627070
You look mad from all that bullying, scary skelly
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>>174624821
My cardfu since rage.
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>>174627152
>they made her sound like an adult in her evolve form
>no change in the dub
Idiots.
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>>174627441
Wow, another inconsistent translation in the dub? Color me shocked!
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>>174627429
>implying

Last time I checked midshadow walks over Dragon. You should be grateful some shadow player was being nice enough playing a deck that wasn't that good to begin with to let you win.
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>>174627115
>other necros run commie pup
>dragon runs breath of salamander and you can't really afford to just dedicate an ev to buffing a follower that can't attack other followers without dying
>people actually do run angelic barrage when they're teching against necro. There was a master rank guy just the other day who had angelic barrage AND fucking revelation in his kys deck.
>wards, cyclone blade. if you get that instead of a more useful turn 4 play, forest nigger, which is supposed to be on your platter, is probably going to pick it off with elf child and then drag the game out until he can roach you
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>>174626989
>>174626668
Why is Gabriel's VA for both jp and eng so shit?
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>>174627441
>>174627579
>Weebcucks being insecure as always
http://usamin.love/sv.html#spiderweb_imp
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Need concede for daily.
ID 65971
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>>174624821
Charon will always be my Cardfu.

Or Soulsquasher.
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>>174627745
>linking random voicelines
Your point?
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>>174627745
>muh generic slut voice
Kill yourself, dubcuck
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>>174627070
>deliberately posting videos to help shadowbbs
>they only shits on me
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>>174627680
She looks so fluffy but sounds like a dike.
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>>174627984
But everyone who's ever played Nep already knows she's shit anon.
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>>174626420
Evolving this card is my favorite thing about the deck.
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>>174627745
>voice of a 20+yo hooker
>for a girl that looks like she's not even 12
Hmm yeah
Good post dubkek
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>>174627957
Straight improvement
>>174627978
Voice consistent with card lore vs generic evil voice hmmm
>>174628041
Another straight improvement
>>174628205
Are you right in the head? Nip voice sounds even older.
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>>174627157
I want gabriel to purify my semen.
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>>174627759
Thanks
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fucking hell every opponent today had a smooth curve while I can't draw a good curve for shit
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>>174628370
>Nip voice sounds even older.
>2 wrongs somehow make a right
Good post dubkek
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>>174628370
Kill yourself dubcuck
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>>174627673
He didn't let, tho. Some Shadow players choose to tech lurching corpses for soul conversion. It's foolish but well they REALLY don't want to brick with Nep or something, others just want tokens for draw power. Blame me.
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>>174628461
But it's not a wrong. Her English voice is consistent with the lore of the card. Nip one isn't. Pretty obvious which one is superior.
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>>174628559
>voice of a 20+yo hooker
>for a girl that looks like she's not even 12
Hmm yeah
Good post dubkek
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>>174626152
>Shadow and Dragon are top tier
What the fuck?
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>>174628559
Get out dubcuck
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Dub is and always has been superior. Stay mad beta japcucks.
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>>174624170
>Didn't evo the reaper
>Didn't punish you for putting down Aegis against a full board
Congrats, you found a retard.
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>>174628629
You sound completely unhinged.
>>174628663
Nah.
http://usamin.love/sv.html#alex
"T-The Nip eunuch voice is obviously superior" - weebcucks
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>>174628629
>>174628559
basically all lolis are voiced as 20-30 year olds because the west is terrified of that shit
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>>174628721
Kill yourself dubcuck
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>>174628641
Yes, that's right.
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>>174628721
This. Tia's voice is much better in english
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>Go first against shadow
>They get a big tempo swing with Orthus and evo

>Go second against shadow
>They soul squasher whatever I evo

How do you win against nu-Luna?
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>>174628781
>"punish" for putting down Aegis
Nigga what was he supposed to do? You can see he tried his fucking best.
He did 14 damage to face in one turn.
Tell me what masterful play you would've had in this situation that didn't make you lose to Themis -> Aegis next turn?
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>>174628847
More like the west realizes teenagers don't sound like 6 year olds :^)
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The dub has better individual voices, but legacy is better overall. I'd rather listen to semi-generic, decent voice acting over a pile of shit that is veteran lancers and jeanne d'arcs with a handful of actual good voicelines
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So I went back and took a look at where the meta was in RoB in comparison to around the same time right now. At the start of RoB winrates were a lot more balanced overall and despite the immediate presence of a million rune-faggots swarming ladder, we had a more evenly balanced distribution of winrates amongst all classes. It wasn't until the 2nd month where the meta settled into Forest and Rune and initially popular decks like aggro blood completely died out due to the rise of Daria and Roach.

When we look at TotG it's interesting the meta settled into two dominant classes so quickly. It took RoB at least a month to get there but in TotG it only took a week or two. I think it goes to show the powerlevel difference that exists between the t1 and t2 decks currently. If we look at the 2nd month of RoB we can see that the t2 decks still seemed to at least have a fighting chance and that even shit decks like ramp dragon saw heavy play. In TotG the worst classes in the game seem to just be completely overpowered by the two meta decks. Rune has a near 40% winrate right now which is worse than dragon ever was in RoB. In comparison, shadow has achieved a winrate higher than any other class we've seen in any expansion.

So where do we see any changes that could happen in the meta next? Going through each week of data in RoB we can actually see sword gaining popularity and winrate in various times and in fact the week before the roach/Daria nerfs were implemented we saw sword swordcrafts usage and winrate spike to match forest and rune. Basically sword was a completely fine deck before the nerfs but ungas were sleeping on it because no one created a good sword netdeck. I guess my question is do we see anything like that possible in TotG, or are the meta decks just too strong for anything else to be viable?

Otherwise I predict if they make a moderate nerf to shadow and a minor nerf to dragon we will get a more balanced meta like we saw at the end of RoB.
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>>174628721
Voices turned off is above all. Stay mad weebs who love fucking annoying voices.
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>>174628946
>Shadow has 61% average win rate going first

W E W
E
W
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>>174628958
>>174629087
>>174629074
kill yourselves dubcucks
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>>174629087
I think they actually changed veteran lancers voice in the english version
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Why are weeaboos always so hostile and wishing death upon everyone they meet
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>>174629153
>implying tia's voice isn't way better in english
get out of here
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>>174629256
Kill yourself, dubcuck
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Dubcucks should go back to /hsg/
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>queue up against dragon
>he leaves 9 damage on board
>he thinks he can race by going face
>doesn't even trade his Aielas in
>evo moonbunny comes in for the kill
I fucking love this deck. Punishes greedy dragon fucks so hard. Does pretty good against shadow too, except when they have the fucking T4 Orthrus going first.
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>>174629256
They have have no argument and know they're wrong, so all they can do is project their cuckiness and repeat the same mantra over and over. It's kind of sad.
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>>174629108
The only way for this meta to be healthy is to gut wallet dragon AND shadow. Shadow is the main thing keeping wallet dragon in check seeing as nothing but hard aggro kills it (and even then you better hope they don't curve into Rahab and Sibyl). If you remove shadow then dragon will take its place by shutting out all midrange/control classes since it plays a better control game than the dedicated control class (Haven) does right now.
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>>174629326
Kill yourself, dubcuck
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>>174629256
Because you retards are posting in a weeb general instead of staying on /r/shadowverse.
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>started in the beginning of RoB, played for about a month with the dubbed version
>switched to JP voices, liked it more, and since I already knew what most cards say in English it wasn't a problem
>ToG comes around
>can't tell what about 90% of the new cards are saying in JP since I don't have a baseline to go off of since I never heard the cards in English
>verify integrity on steam to get dub back
>play for about a week
>remember that Vampy a pretty cute in English actually
>Luna's voice and overall dialogue is fucking garbage tho
>the bunny necromancer w/e her proper name is sounds FUCKING HORRIBLE in English, and she's played like every single game against Shadow
>going back to JP voices again
I really wish we had subtitles for card voice lines in the game, would make playing with JP voices a lot better.
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>>174629326
90% of the voices are desu.
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>>174629256
Nerds in general are like that. Weeaboos are just a peculiar subcategory.

Their social awkwardness is more often a sign of lack of empathy--their inability to conform socially grows from their inability to feel anything for others and their disdain for social ritual. Nerd fantasies are porn-influenced and obsessive, their love interests conceived more or less as vessels for nerd eroticism. Thus they are uninterested in what makes women different from men. In fact their ideal female stems from their quasi-autogynephilic fantasies, in which their shortcomings as failed males are obliterated by the image of the powerful female sexual container with muted psychological sex differences.

Because nerds are alienated from actual feminine qualities, their fantasy women tend to be nondescript mirrors of nerds, albeit with sexually attractive bodies and an almost masochistic dependence on the idealized nerd lover. But a nerd will take anything he can masturbate to, such as cartoons or upskirt shots of a co-worker.

Naturally, the nerd's lack of empathy, pornographied sexual imagination, and nerd-life appearance make for a sickly combination. He is boring, hostile, fixated, inattentive, superficial, and ugly, all qualities which come through in his okcupid profile. In fact full blown autogynephile trannies are the exemplars of the nerd phenotype, a kind of final metamorphosis into antisocial nerdery.
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>>174629496
>weeb general

You're confusing this board with /a/, perhaps you should go shitpost among your own kind.
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>>174629378
Kill yourself, dubcuck
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heaven rebukes you
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>>174629548
That's some cute copy-pasta and all but it doesn't really fit as a reply for a discussion about JP vs ENG voices
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>>174629418
>go to dragon WR
>only have abusive WR against haven and rune
>everyone have abusive WR against rune
>if you do the math withouth shadow the deck dragon get 53% of WR even with the abusive WR of Haven and rune
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I swear if this fucking game won't stop putting me with my direct counter decks not even shadow or dragon every time I try to play a different deck I'm going back to midshadow.
Fucking roach shitters are crawling out of the woodwork again too.
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off to a good start you fucking degenerates
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>>174629574
You're confusing this site with reddit, perhaps you should go upvote among your own kind.
Nice reddit spacing too.
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>>174629574
>japanese game
>somehow not a weeb general
Go away /hsg/
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>>174629851
>moot

Literally who?
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>>174629418
I'm honestly wondering what class or decks you play to come to this terribly incorrect conclusion that dragon is the problem and not shadow?

I play forest and I can beat dragon, I play kys blood and I can beat dragon. I play midrange/aggro sword and can still beat dragon. yet all of these decks have like a 40% winrate or less against shadow.

Are you just a shadowfag in denial?
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>>174629702
Dragon decks are playing super greedy right now because it's do or die with Shadow. If shadow dies then the meta slows down and Dragon can afford to start throwing in Unicas and such which will shut out aggro while maintaining it's already respectable winrate against midcrafts like sword and forest.
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>>174629847
>Can't take the bantz
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>>174629927
>>174629943
completely agree with you guys
shadow is a true cancer of this expansion
btw do you have any cool control decks? I want to try
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>>174629908

He was just some random tripfag nerd.
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>>174629943
>dragon is bad against shadow
>they don't run anti-aggrotech because ????
>after they nerf the best aggro deck they will start to run anti-aggro techs ???
>you whole argument ?????????????????????????
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>>174629950
>one guy quoting random people and telling them to kill themselves
>bantz
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>>174629667
>but it doesn't really fit as a reply for a discussion about JP vs ENG voices
Yes it does considering the weeb side always sounds completely deranged. They are just petty insecure nerds that lash out at anyone who dares criticize their holy object of admiration/masturbation (in this case Glorious Nippon)
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>>174630313
But no one masturbates to voices, so your point is completely moot.
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If you think Shadow is the problem you're a C rank shitter, and if you think Dragon is the problem you're definitely a D rank shitter.

The problem is Forest. They still have an oppressive winrate (70% at the minimum) because of cards like Roach. Literally no deck can beat roach if they draw well and you brick. How the fuck is that okay?
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>>174624519
Stolen life?
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>have two sword dailies
>don't have alberts
How the fuck do I get these done
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>>174630237
Shadow is midrange, not aggro.

And it's different from other decks because a single board clear won't wipe their board. I mean what are you going to do against a board of last words? Salamander's breath and leave up 5+ damage for their turn?

At least with blood you clear their board and they're basically fucked since they have to spend a turn rebuilding or resort to storm.

Shadow's rape train has no brakes.
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>>174630375
>shadow player who lost one game to a roach deck and now needs to cry about it every thread
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>>174630313
Kill yourself, dubcuck
>>174630375
Kill yourself, shadownigger
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>>174630457
pepe and pray
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>>174624821
One day she'll be viable
Haha no because anything she works with is better with Eachtar or lotf
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>>174630375
I agree. The fact that roach is somehow STILL not nerfed is only proof that forest is the dev's pet class
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>>174630375
How the fuck are you losing to roach as shadow? lmao you suck badly
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>>174630368
>But no one masturbates to voices
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/our tranny/ is streaming
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>>174630368
>But no one masturbates to voices
hahahahaha where do you think you are dude
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From this past week it's been pretty obvious that Shadowniggers shitpost in these threads from 12PM-8PM EST~, which explains why everyone keeps defending it as balanced and deflect to Dragon instead.
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>>174630573
How long before cygames makes a 3 mana 1/1 that kills itself and resummons itself at the end of turn?
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>>174630368
ASMR my man
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>>174624908
He's slow. you're basically sacrificing the board you needed for him to play him. He's easily still in range of double board damage which they'll happily use on you. Wards basically hard stop you. He's a cool gimmick and I love him but he's obsolete and only fit for waifu decks
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>Eachtar can do anywhere from 11-14 damage
>On turn 7

Defend this, shadowcucks.
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>>174630517
Fucking this. Shadow proxies is the last craft to bitch about roach. However, no other viable craft can avoid the two OTKs from Forest.
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>>174630645
Roach is like the only finisher card in forest aside from bolt so you see it a lot. If forest lost roach the class would die immediately, it's the only thing holding them up since the card quality they've got every expansion has been so poor so they need to rely on a deck from the launch of the game.
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>>174630475
in the halfway you started to agree with me. but yeah cygames should nerf at least zell because is impossible to nerf baha and ligh blast atm.
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>>174630901
He can only hit face if you have a board already. :^)
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>>174630901
>anywhere from 11-14 damage
huh?
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>>174630901
how the fuck can Eachtar do 11 damage
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>>174630368
dude
>>>/h/4598790
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>>174630901
he cant do it alone anon.
power of friendship supposed to be stronk. just see our friend zell too.
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>>174630953
Eh, Forest has gotten some decent cards every expansion. Aerin, Beetle, Selwyn, Tia, etc.

They usually don't stand-out, but they're absurd tempo plays most of the time which is what has kept Forest relevant on top of having an already strong foundation of cards and Roach.

>>174631036
>He doesn't know
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Haven needs a 5pp aoe banish that removes 3 health or less followers.
Fair and balanced, it would also put shadowniggers in their place.
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>>174629548
This is why no one likes psych students.
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Why do Dragoncucks never fucking brick anymore?
Every single fucking game they have Sybil turn 5 and a perfect turn 9 SahaBahaZell.
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>>174625982
A very bad lady

>>174630783
Probably next expansion. It still wont help spirit cycle or the other when x dies minions be useful. The only way they'll ever see play is part of a straight up powercreep ala thane

>>174630901
What if I told you shadow could do 11-15 dmg on turn 6?
What if I told you shadow could do 15 dmg through any amount of wards on t7?
What if I told you they could do 18 dmg through wards on turn 8 then soul conversion a rabbit necromancer t9?
You newbies know nothing.
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>>174631080
Zombie party/Death's Breath or any left skeletons I guess.
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>>174631203
Psychology is inherently Jewish and shouldn't be taken seriously anyway.
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>>174631036
He probably meant with minions. With just 4 skellies he enables 12 damage, 14 with an evo.

The funny thing is, this isn't even that uncommon. Eachtar is designed so that you're basically never not getting value with him. Prince ensures Shadow will always have *some* type of board presence and a shitton of shadows to trigger zombie summons at the very worst.
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>>174631195
Not even Rune has 3hp for 5pp. Fuck off.
You may have it at 7 at best.
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>>174631207
Better curves
They have like a 60% chance to have one of 3 sibyls on curve
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>>174631254
Also, double Eachtar.
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What's the best deck against ramp dragon? Is dshift the only honest craft that can fuck them up with there massive healing?
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>>174631215
The first one requires is aggro and usually means they blow their load if they don't kill.
The second and third ones require a lot more conditional setup than just dropping big daddy echty.
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>>174631327
Carl Jung wasn't a Jew, was he?
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>>174631327
>Psychology is inherently Jewish
Tell me more
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>>174631331
The boned men are out of control, we must unite to defeat them!
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>>174629548
Do you read MPC? Honest question
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>>174631462
Aggro/kys Blood.
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>>174631168
They get like 2 or 3 usable cards in an expansion but those are mostly to make a roach deck slightly better. They aren't getting cards to support other types of decks, while other classes get a bunch of cards to make other decent decks. Forest gets the lowest amount of usable/good cards every expansion and the only deck they can still run is roach variants because they get tons of fairy cage quality cards.
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>>174631462
Any Aggro deck, KYS Blood and Storm Haven. The same shit that has always worked against Ramp.
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>>174630901
Fuck Eachtar. I thought he was going to be bad because it would only affect Zombies. His ability affecting the rest of the board gives too much reach. 4 1/1 skeletons on T6 sets up 14 damage with evo on T7.
It would be balaced if it wasn't for the fact that it's fucking impossible to keep board clear.
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>>174631351
You fuck off shadownigger it's balanced. Haven is the control class and runes calamitous can do 5 or less with earthrite.
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>>174631620
Dragon made earthrite unplayable.
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Is there any way I can filter posts that use excessive spacing? I'm doing my best to ignore them all, but for each one I ignore, 3 more take it's place.
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>>174631501
He clearly means that the Jews are just "so" fantastically smart and wonderful, they are the only group of human beings capable of looking at the human mind from a meta perspective to try to help people with their emotional issues.
What a lovely gaggle of Semites!
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>>174631694
Seek professional help or a lobotomy
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>>174631462
KYS Blood destroys ramp dragon.
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>>174631681
Since when are we discussing earthrites playability?
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What deck has best WR against shadow?
I want to genocide those niggers.

>>174631694
No but you have autism.
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>>174631703
Gas yourself
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>>174631501
It all began with the Jew, Sigmund Freud who linked every psychological problems humans had to their sexual problems, to their genitals or to their attraction to their mothers. Granted even modern day psychologist don't take Sigmund seriously for the most part, but its origins are highly dubious. And I always viewed psychologist in a negative light because they basically just subscribe you pills that do who knows what to you instead of actually helping you with your problems.

>>174631484
http://www.jinfo.org/Psychology.htm
He wasn't.
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>>174631694
>using filters
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>>174631850
shadow
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>>174631620
>it's balanced because I'm extra butthurt about shadow and want to fuck them over

Just themis, like you used too. :^)
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>>174631597
>Thought Grimmnir didn't have ward so he only existed for JO memes
>He has wards
>See him in every deck
>Control runs him as a ward and finisher
>Midrange runs him as a clear to enable finishers
>Even some aggro lists are running him simply because they have room for a powerful 3 drop

What the fuck Cygames? Why would MTG pros print such a blatantly broken neutral card?
What
The
Fuck
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>>174631840
When you say b-b-but muh calamitous!
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>>174631813
grimnir is a pretty good card
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>>174631850
Unironically Shadow
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Opening an Elf Queen was the best thing to happen to me. That card is too fun to play.
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>>174631694
your avatar made this post 4 times bigger than normal
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>>174631850
Midrange Shadow's worst match up is the mirror.
Other than that there is Have and Dragon, but they are both negative.
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>>174631909
>>174631998
I don't have the legs for that.
Second best?
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>>174632104
>avatar

don't think you know what this word means
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>>174631918
>What the fuck Cygames? Why would MTG pros print such a blatantly broken neutral card?
To push the fast games meme. Now every class has access to a powerful late game swing card and since its good early game there's no reason not to use it.
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>>174631918
Best one was when I died to a Grimnir while playing some meme amulet only Tarnished grail Haven deck after stabilizing at 4hp behind wards.
Opponent was midrange shadow. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous.
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>>174632065
What's your highest elf queen heal so far
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>>174632104
FUCKING REDDIT
GET OUT OF MY GENERAL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174632137
>worst match up is the mirror.

Jesus Christ. They need to give Haven an amulet that costs 2PP and has "Whenever an enemy follower is destroyed, banish it instead" next expac,
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Finally, a real man is streaming Shadowverse
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Remember to always bully Dragonbabs.
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>>174632361
Kill yourself, twitchwhore
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>>174632220
17 against a mid shadow, he conceded right after since he was out of cards.
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>>174632361
Literally who
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>>174632281
>>174632180
sorry grandpa but the /a/ posting you're emulating died off years ago
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>>174631538
>Do you read MPC?
Only for bodybuilding tips
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>>174632218
>Play Seraph haven for shits n giggles despite it having like 40% winrate this expansion
>Controlled a nutting Mid Sword and stopped all of his 3x alberts and alwidas
>Have a wall of temple defenders and snek priestesses with 3 HP left
>He does nothing for a minute
>"YOU HAVE- YOU HAVE- YOU HAVE BREATHED YOUR LAST"
>GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR

Yeah, fuck that.
I stopped playing for the rest of the day. Hell, I don't even want to play tonight for when dailies refresh..
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>>174632527
Kill yourself, reddit
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>>174632510
>He loses a game
>Man enough to admit on stream he fucked up instead of doing some passive-aggressive blaming of Cygames or balance
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>>174632561
Yeah, if you didn't know, 4hp is 0hp now. Everyone has grimnir so get your head out of your ass
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>>174632627
>mfw saw a kys blood running grimnir
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>>174632621
>Cygames shill
No, thank you
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>>174632353
>killing an entire class because you're so assblasted

How about we give rune a 2pp amulet that negates all other amulet fanfares and last words?
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>>174632627
>everyone starts with 16 HP now
Almost wish this was true, just so Dragon would have less to heal, but in reality it would just fuck over everyone else.
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>>174631548
>>174631586
Aggro can't stop a perfect ramp though. Once silbyl in on board they have to waste a turn to remove it.
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Someone help me optimize this deck.
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>>174631945
The argument is haven having a 5pp spell aoe banish that removes 3 hp or less followers is balanced. See calamitous curse which can do 5 or less for 6pp
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>>174632709
>mfw I drag the match to turn 10 against kill yourself blood and I'm about to win next turn but he just Grimnirs and clears my whole fucking board
This has to stop.
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>>174632740
Sure, if it'll somehow kill shadow.

I wouldn't particularly mind if they straight up deleted the class from the game right now considering it makes up 4/5 of my 9k master games.
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>>174632709
I died to a roach elf because he Grimnired me twice in a row.
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>>174632790
Sibyl isn't a auto-win in the matchup at all.
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>>174632790
Aggro Shadow, Sword and Blood all have positive winrates against it.
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>>174632740
Rune already autowins against almost all Haven decks by just using dickshift, they don't need help.
But I'd be fine with the change, yes.
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>>174632353
Kill yourself havenshitter.
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>>174632825
Here.
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>>174632932
Storm shits on rune
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>>174632825
Do you regularly have 9 cards in have by t8?
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>>174630969
>is impossible to nerf baha and ligh blast atm

Bahamut: Drop stats to 5/5.
Lightning Blast: Banish 1 card for regular cost, or for 10 Destroy everything in play.

There, now Seraph works again and you don't have to worry about Bahamut other than it being another Themis with a bonus fat creature on top.

There, balanced.
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>>174632948
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174632842
So next expansion, when another class is cancer, let's delete that one too?
What if the class you play most is now the cancer, delete that one as well?
At this point everyone besides blood was cancer at some point. so you know where to look at next expansion
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>>174632839

If we're counting the dirtrune effect then it's not strictly 6pp. It'd be like calling sneks 6pp.
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>>174632553
my fellow brother of whyte ancestry
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>>174632281
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>get out reddit
This gets me everytime.
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>>174632825
Do you just concede if you draw all 3 fate early on? Pu in an imperial dragoon or something atleast.
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>>174633009
Yeah, I did say "almost".

>>174633030
He means they won't nerf a leggo from a past set.
And Blast isn't as OP as it sounds, it just ruins Seraph's day.
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>>174632739
>Shill
>Beating up Shadowcancer with homebrew Earthrite deck
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>>174633035
>So next expansion, when another class is cancer, let's delete that one too?
If it breaks 60% winrate like shadow is doing for the first time in history of Shadowverse then sure, why not?

>What if the class you play most is now the cancer,
I play every class except mid shadow right now. It's a bit too braindead for me and this is coming from a guy who abused mid-shaman for free rank.
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How do the Japs feel about GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIR?
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>>174633038
It's easy to get earthrites on the field, regardless it still wouldn't make it unbalanced
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>>174630953
>G-guys!
>S-shadow is b-broken because it can sh-shit out 1/1 followers!
>1/1's are b-broken guys!
>No, y-you don't u-understand, F-Forest is too w-weak guys!
>All it d-does is shit out 1/1's!
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>>174633221
Kill yourself and go suck your e-celeb dick.
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>>174632709
Why are you surprised by that? Grimmy is in the kys blood list on game ai. It's a powerful 3 drop, AND it's a ward in a deck that's almost entirely dependent on them to not die in certain matchups.
The one time I've dropped him on turn 10 and won was against a shadow nig who top decked death's breath when he had like 2 hp. Never before has someone deserved to get grimnnir'd more than at that moment.
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>>174633236
They think its a funny a chuuni guy, the nips are shiteaters who love this garbage meta.
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>>174632361
>streamers
Do you mean the spoonfeed' ones from this general?
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Ranked is for masochistic fucks only this expansion.

Meta turns more and more diceroll with each expansion, kinda obvious with that much powercreep
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>>174633274
t. Luna
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>>174633231
>60%
Except it hasn't
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>>174633274
>1/1s with on on death effect
>same as 1/1s with no on death effect
hello?
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>>174633294
>Kill yourself and go suck your e-celeb dick.
Being -this- mad XD
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>>174633374
omg there's rng in card games
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>>174633274
Kill yourself.
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>>174633006
I don't have any Ouros, unfortunately. I ended up dropping Aiela because she felt too slow, how is she working out for you?

>>174633016
Yes.

>>174633137
Pray to Grimnir or hope something manages to deal damage. >>174633006's list seems like it has better chances in that case.
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>>174633274
Kill yourself, shadownigger
>>174633374
Kill yourself, pussy
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>>174633352
Well I bet Japs like to drop big followers early on as dragon to compensate for their tiny dicks.
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>>174633358
What do you mean by "the spoonfeed ones"?
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>>174633440
>self reported stats
>ever being reliable
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>>174633374
>Tune into some sweet Shadowverse tournament streams to see how the Nips are faring in this meta
>Shadow vs Shadow half the time
>Games are literally decided by the opening hand / who goes first

I'm usually excited to watch SV and see the pros pilot decks, but holy fuck maybe I'll just go back to playing T2 inst-

>99% of T2 is Dragon and Shadow
Nevermind.
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>>174633413
>greentexting the entire post he's replying to
>XD
>>>/reddit/
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>>174633413
>literally supporting and helping out jobbers
Why not as well go outside and join some organized gang?
>>
This general is already beyond saving geez
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>>174633547
It's the closest we have.

And back in DE the stats were very close to what Cygames published so we can assume that as long as there hasn't been a big influx of trolls/retards then it's a reliable metric to use.
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>>174633547
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174633274
There's a gigantic difference between fairy and skeleton/zombie mechanics
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>>174633536
They get information from here, then replace and force their own shit onto the OP.
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>>174633547
Kill yourself, shadownigger
>>174633653
See you tomorrow
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>>174633440
Everyone has huge winrates over Rune and Haven desu. All other classes are so shit right now they might as well be irrelevant, so technically shadow only has a 52% winrate over the only other class that matters right now.
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>>174633565
>read this read
>the last 3 relevant tounr winner were blood and sword
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>>174633274
You are saying forests fairies are the same as shadow skeletons with last words that generate them shadows and their 1 drops can be used for more than just comboing and taking up board space? Are you retarded? Shadow benefits way more from the death of their 1/1s and their 1/1s are a lot stickier.

I think this game might be too complicated for you if you think they are anything alike.
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>>174633619
>jobbers
What, did he job in some professional game?
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>muh winrates
>muh playrates
>muh self-reported stats
>I don't know how to adapt my decks pls nerf
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>>174633749
The point of his post is Forest, which is the third highest winrate class right now.
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>>174628946
How much HEAR memeing went on after this happened?
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>>174633773
>adapt against yurius
>the immortal 2pp 1 3 drop
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>>174633773
Post your delete skelleymens deck then because there isn't one.
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>>174633729
Oh, if that's the case, then no, he's not one of those, I doubt he even knows we exist.
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>>174633773
Its useless, this general consists mostly of netdecking brainlets.
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>>174633889
A fair amount but on the other hand the game is shit now so everyone quit.
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I love you.
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>>174633773
Adapt by playing shadow
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>>174633236
Broken.
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69878
Need concede please
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>>174633928
>tfw they have 2 zombie parties in hand for your yurias
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>>174633889
Not much post expansion release, because people started bitching about the meta.
It happened a lot post the reveal of Lightning Blast.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171699564/#171722958
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>>174633946
Even if we post one, you will just whine about win rates and statistics as usual without trying out.
Not going to bother with you filthy netdeckers.
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>Shadow does horrible for the start of the match
>lol enough shadows for Eachtar to reset the board
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>>174633565
That's why tournaments are shit. It's either situational meme decks or full netdeck meta. The actual good players are all anonymous gathering on ranked.
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>>174633889
There were some smug Dragoncucks being smug as fuck for the first week or so but now they've successfully diverted attention from themselves by false flagging as shadow and diverting attention from themselves using the "if you have any criticism at my class, you're an assblasted Lunapedo" Haven deflection tactic.
So now everyone is focusing on hating shadow, that WILL be nerfed back to T2 with a simple catacomb nerf while Dragon is not that easily nerfable.
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>>174634026
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>>174634103
My point exactly, there isn't one that can keep up. Even with pendants you can't keep them clear.
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>tfw Shadowverse won't ever have girls this cute
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>>174634161
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174634248
But that's a boy.
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>>174633889
Not much considering a lot of people quit which is why the general is a lot slower now.
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>>174634261
See. Like that.
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>>174634161
Both will be touched imo, Cygames don't care that gaijin only whine about shadow.
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>>174634213
Maki-chan, did you know, you have two skeletons inside you?

>>174634248
Who cares, it's more like sv will never have a sane campaign mode so they could actually regularly add content. It's like they learned fucking nothing from the cost and schedule issues of granblue.

>>174634310
Nothing wrong with a girl (male). The buttgina is still just as fertile.
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>>174634248
is this hearthstone?
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>>174634161
>that WILL be nerfed back to T2 with a simple catacomb nerf

>literally infinite board flood deck with loads of burn and burst
>he thinks Catacomb nerf alone will drop Midshadow from 59% winrate back to a balanced state
Kill yourself shadownigger
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>>174634058
Please join
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>>174634347
Yet the fucking shadowniggers remained, they really should just fucking kill themselves already
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>>174634368
Yes but how DO you nerf Dragon without any drastic measures?
They can't take away Sybil now and if they somehow break Zell, ramp is still very strong as a mechanic.
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>>174634462
wat
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>3 games against D Shit.
what in the fucking world.
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>>174634575
Take away their retarded as healing factor.
Dragon can literally ramp now without consequences due to how much they can heal.
Take away their healing and everything is solved.
But unfortunately they will never touch Sybil because it is a legendary, so they will nerf something else.
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>>174634058
Thanks vampy
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>>174634575
Without Zell the game will stall for fucking forever.
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Daily reminder to kill yourself if you identify as shadownigger.
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""""Midrange""""" Blood 21 win streak
https://twitter.com/ninanina3156/status/853878833765728257
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>>174634478
Can't Hectar if you have no board and shadows, which Catacomb is responsible for both.
Haven't you played Nep back in RoB? Getting 6 shadows for turn fucking 6 wasn't easy. Not like it is now, when you casually drop lolisquisher on turn 4 and still have 10+ shadows for Death breath.
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>>174634723
>Dragon can literally ramp now without consequences
Like auto-losing? Stop being such a baby.
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>>174634575
You don't have to destroy the deck, just get rid of the stupid zell-saha combo will be enough to make it more reasonable.
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>>174634937
Kill yourself, dragontard
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>>174634723
It's a double edged sword because with the sped-up game dragon needs more heal than ever to deal with tempo losses. There was a reason many dragons bled out in RoB

>>174634908
Adapt or die welfare queen.
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>>174634935
>Can't Hectar if you have no board and shadows
But Eachtar's core is supposed to be played WITHOUT a board. The board boost is a bonus. He's a board flood card. And you can just drop another next turn, so it doesn't cut it.
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>>174635089
It still isn't justifiable that dragon can now heal more than fucking havencraft, the designated healing craft.
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>>174635021
I guess Zell only being able to target Dragon cards is a start.
It will also come out a turn later because Ouro is 8, unlike Saha.
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>>174635284
"designated healing craft."

lmao.
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>>174635059
>without consequences
The consequence is auto losing, retard.
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>>174634908
git gud.
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>>174635336
It is though.
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>>174634935
>Can't Hectar if you have no board and shadows, which Catacomb is responsible for both.
Yeah, sure, it's not like Chimera, Thane, Death's Breath and Zombie Party generate you a lot of shadows and board presence. Also, even if you have no board to buff with Eachtar he FUCKING GIVES YOU A BOARD.
>Haven't you played Nep back in RoB? Getting 6 shadows for turn fucking 6 wasn't easy. Not like it is now, when you casually drop lolisquisher on turn 4 and still have 10+ shadows for Death breath.
Yes, I've played it and, no, it wasn't insanely easy, but it wasn't hard either. Also, Death's Breath doesn't need shadows to be used as a board flood, it just needs shadows to buff the Zombies.

Stop trying to defend your braindead tier 0 deck.
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>>174625151
Post your MP, because if it's low you don't have any street credit
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>>174634723
Nerf Zell's effect or increase PP cost to not get a retarded Saha combo in the same turn, this way they can keep their combo but it will take a turn to settle
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>>174635291
>I guess Zell only being able to target Dragon cards is a start.
That's how I'd fix it, yes.
Also an incentive for Rowen to use his own fucking followers instead of neutral fatties.
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I guess we all agree Cygames needs to focus on Rune and Haven next expansion right. If you do disagree you're a dragontard/shadownigger.
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>>174634723
>Dragon can literally ramp now without consequences due to how much they can heal.
Yeah, that's why it has a negative winrate against aggressive decks.
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>>174634161
Stupid shadowbab. Everyone hates you
t. forest main
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>>174635408
Even in Rob, it wasn't autolose, stop being delusional. Only against hyper aggro decks like old unga blood would you autolose, but now you have fucking Rahab, one of the best wards in the game to solve that.
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>Runeshit send you into vengeance
>Make sure to kill him with Dark General just so he kicks himself for it
Good times
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>>174635568
Kill yourself, dariatumor
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>>174635568
If with Rune you mean non-dshit Rune, yes.
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>>174635568
I don't agree with you
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>>174635568
Haven will be t1 next expac, haven will get some great early game card and a aoe/value card which will make aegis haven viable.
Screencap this
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>>174635259
You are going to have 6-8 shadows on turn 7 normally or you just get deleted next turn. The reason shadow is so strong right now is because opponent clears board and spawn skeletons for you other shit next turn. You can Hector all you want but one Bahamut or SahaIsrafil is going to put an end to it next turn.
When they nerf Catacomb I'm guessing shadow will move to a more board floody playstyle with princesses and thanes to compensate but your entire time frame of winning shifts with that a couple of turns forward, IF you even manage to keep a board with everyone having Grimnirs.
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>>174634575
Dragon's strength mainly comes from the fact that they can play a very defensive build with Saha while also having a strong finisher because of Zell. Just take Zell away from them and they are forced to either play Storm Ramp and die harder to aggro or use slow wincons such as Satan.
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>>174635606
Even with healing it has a negative winrate. Something to keep in mind.
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>>174635568
How about focusing on everything, you retarded rune shitter, so we can avoid the present situation once again?
There is really no reason for 2 classes to dominate the meta.
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>>174635284
>>174635437
Dragon:
*1pp Nest 2hp
*5pp Sibyl 3hp/turn
*5pp Fervor 3hp
*8pp Ouroboros 3hp/turn*

Haven:
*2pp Rabbit healer 2hp
*2pp Love's Gospel 3hp
*2pp Holy water 2hp
*3pp* Radiant Shaman 4hp
*3pp Healing prayer 3hp
*3pp Pegasus sculpture 4hp
*(4)pp Frog cleric 3hp
*4pp Pure healer 2hp
*5pp Healing priestess 1hp
*5pp Radiance Angel 3hp
7pp Curate 5hp
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>>174626991
>that
>big
sausage normalfagverse
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>>174635774
>non-spellboost Rune
ftfy
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>>174635568
I want Ginger and Magical Big Guy to become tier 1!
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>>174635934
daria is fine compared to shadowcancer at this point
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>>174635774
Dshift has meme-tier winrate right now. Cygames should add a way to fetch your highest cost spells from your deck to balance it out.
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>>174636023
Big guy by definition can never become tier 1. He's a counter card that's only good against people who can't answer it.
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>>174635896
There is a difference between big, large, huge, gigantic etc. You illiterate mongoloid.
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>>174636076
Nah D-shift should stay dead
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>>174635893
you forgot lucifer and israfil
and dragon also runs almost all of those unlike haven where only like 3 of those are even viable in the meta right now
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>>174636039

That's crazy, you're crazy. She's the reason why Cygames had to go overboard with their buffs.
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>>174636076
dshift always had meme tier winrates because it flops when it's not up against a preferred matchup
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>>174635437
No, it isn't. Blood has always been filled with heals as well.
Haven having heals is just a consequence of Cygames wanting them to be the Control class due to their core mechanic (countdown amulets that summon followers) being slow.
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>>174636081
man i wish he also destroyed earth sigils on board

that would make him a really good card and allow you to play the game normally without having to worry about your big guy not being such a big guy

sigh
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>>174635934
I actually like Daria, she's fun to play against AND has no Dshit synergy.

>>174636076
>Dshift has meme-tier winrate right now
Yes and it fucking deserves it.
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>>174635893
Now think how viable a haven heal list is in todays meta.
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>>174635863
Eachtar refill your shadows by itself, and then next turn Death's breath. It's hard to simpatize with the Shadow meta.
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>>174636181
Those are not Dragon cards.
That's like saying Sword has heals because Control Sword can play Healing Angel.
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>>174635453
I wasn't defending anything, but you rarely saw it perform without catacomb.
You can't know how many of those reported wins and/or loses were due to Catacomb being present.
Catacombless hector decks would be kys Blood tier, which would probably get stronger because it will be able to kill dragon faster than shadow, before it gets to the heavy duty removal.
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>>174636358
Name any other deck that plays Israfil
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>>174636181
No, No I didn't. This may boggart your marbles but able to and actually does is two very different things.

>>174636237
Target immune dies to so much it's not even funny not to mention rune got kike'd so you can't run a counter deck and salt mine all day anymore like you could in RoB

>>174636323
Fucking kill yourself.Haven has better healing, if they don't want to use it that doesn't make them not the healing class.
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>>174636358
>lucifer and israfil are not dragon cards
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>>174636081
Who can answer a 9/9+ hulk on turn 6 beside haven? If dragon doesn't ramp up to 10 they can't use lightning blast.

Really makes you think.
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>>174636325
*sympathize
If they nerf catacomb I guess people will play less aggro and will jimp to some other playstyle.
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>>174636421
>Haven has better healing,
But they don't.
Stop confusing "more" with "better".
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>Just played against a Forest deck running Saha+Lucy and Bahamut
What?
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>>174636358
Nobody can afford to play those bricks other than Dragon and Dragon also made damn sure no other class will ever be able to.
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>>174636406
Name a non-Haven deck that plays Test of Strength.
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>>174636528
If only they could do things with that heal. Oh wait!
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>>174636250
Darialess spellboost is fun to play too
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>>174636510
>dragoon scyther
>3 pp bane storm with overflow
Yeah dragon surely could never answer such a huge threat
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>>174635893
you forgot
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>when you play as best as you can in t2 and they have the perfect answer for every single thing you do
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>>174636572
I can;t even name a haven deck that plays test of strength.
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>>174636510
>ff dragon doesn't ramp up to 10 they can't use lightning blast
Hello.
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>>174636458
i play them in haven since i dont have cards for storm or seraph or aegis
i just put the saha baha luci isra suite in my haven for dailies
its too fair of a deck so it feels super slow and takes a while to win what i need
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>>174636358
Name a single other class that plays huge bricks like Israfil.

Ill wait.
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>shadow has so much board spam now that it's better to use aggro neutralcraft than my budget storm haven with no themis in unranked

This makes me really sad.
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>>174636510
I used Will of the Forest against a 10/10 Hulk today, he had to evolve and trade one of my followers and I had 9 cards in hand.
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>>174636531
i ran into that yesterday

i'm an a0 shitter though so i assume people are still using their cobbled together legendaries
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>>174636727
Why the hell would you not run 3x of it?
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>>174636796
Or how about you put Themis into your Storm Haven deck then
>b-b-but I sad budget
nigga its a gold card
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>>174636421
(You)
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>>174636845
Will can only do a max of 8 damage
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>>174636783
>Take two doesn't exist

inb4 devs aren't allowed to design cards around their uses in draft.
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>>174636531
Forest is trash when you don't have their staples, might as well just go full neutral brick mode
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>>174636531
Could've been me
I only have dragon and havencraft cards so I do my forest dailies with my saha luci israfil neutralcraft abomination and wait for a favoured matchups
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>>174636510
i usually do it with saha baha
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>>174636796
>>174636909
>Themis in storm haven
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>>174636873
>why would you not run 3 bricks that are only useful in a single situation?
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>>174636909
I refuse to craft anything until I have enough vials to craft everything in the game. I'm just lamenting that the deck worked reasonably well pre-ToG, before board spam shadow cancer.
>>
Fun game.
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>>174636936
Will isn't a perfect clear but if you have a board before he drops big guy, it's doable.
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>>174636783
Gingerrunecraft
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>>174636712
>You recover ground in this situation, thinking yes I did it victory is almost here!
>They drop the fucking sandbagged Bahamut they hid in their hand
T2 was balanced without Standard Pool? Lies, only sweet lies
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>>174636228
Nobody is saying other crafts don't have heals, but you're retarded if you think haven isn't the healing craft.
>>174636706
>muh conditional heals
>muh killing myself and healing myself
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>>174624361
Don't you have your own general, platform fighter, and gacha to shit up, Marth?
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>>174637137
You're ok because at least it's a neutral deck. That other forest shitter deserved it though for playing it.
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>>174637341
control blood doesn't kill itself though
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>>174637258
Kek
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>think about making rune deck
>don't want to waste vials on Levi

Why is rune so useless without Levi.
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>>174637071
Yeah, they're only useful when you have to win.
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>>174636510
Pixie's mischief
Noble fairy and any ping

Spectre
Lurching corpse and any activator
Ledger lurching
Necroassassin
Wight king
Soul glutton
Balor
Ebon reaper
Board and madame lich
Soul grinder
Khawy

Medusa's gaze+board or gaze-axe-junk
Alpha wolfman
Righteous devil
Mastema
Mask of the black death stalls

Ruthless assassin
Shadowed assassin
Jolly rogers (rng)

Dragoon scyther
Masamune

Candelabra inquiry
Damus and test of strength or wards
Dark priest and test of strength or power of protection
Tribunal
Candelabra death sentence
Themis
Kaguya's ephemeral moon

Winter's caprice
Mutagenic bolt
Professor of taboos
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>>174637596
BTFO
>>
If you guys want Cygames to somehow listen to your complaints or something, you should probably post on the official forums since their CM is there.
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>>174637316
>manage to recover and kill their board enough that it's safe to comeback
>they topdeck Grimnir
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>>174637686
you don't need to go to forums we are here :D,
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>>174637596
>Jolly Rogers
kek
I keep forgetting this guy exists, I even got animated ones
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>>174637596
no one uses those cards
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>>174637454
Just playing wolf and dire bond means that you've already killed yourself a bit. Your heals end up balancing out.
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>>174637795
he can be fun with support cannon
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>>174637596
To be fair with him most of these needs a evolve point, the other half nobody plays.
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>>174637596
Mastema cant attack followers without wards and dont forget about the duck+ evo trading into big guy for neutral
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>>174637771
>"CYGAMES CO"
lul, sure bro.

When are you guys adding premium nude versions of the female leaders?
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>>174633773
The real meaningful way to tech against the sea of dragon and shadow is to play dragon and shadow. Everything else is either inconsistent as fuck or only for the memes.
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>>174637771
you should take care of your autism
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>>174637893
I think I found support cannons too, I should look into that
Any other important prank cards to have in there?
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>>174637803
Because noone uses magical big guy
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>>174637901
Yeah. On the other hand, he just threw a hail mary and is in shit shape from dumping 2/3 of his sigils and needs a melvie to recover
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>>174637341
>multiple classes have had heals since standard
>classes X and Y have always been filled with heals since standard
>class X is the healing class because I said so
Nice argument.
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>>174637596
Man I fucking love pixie mischiefing big ass shit.

>face shadow
>he pops down atomy turn 3
>PM it back into his hand
>"HMMPH I'M LEAVING"
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>>174638036
This.

If a card gets too popular then there will be techs against it.
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>>174637803
Yeah, because big guy is so terrible and irrelevant they don't care about him. We're still early in the meta so most decks are greedy as fuck too. It's gonna swing around as time goes on again.
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>>174637924
>Mastema cant attack followers without wards
Just Test of Strength, of course.
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>>174637686
I didn't know they even read their english forums
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Fuck
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>>174638214
We're talking about answering a t6 big dude though so he's right. You're gonna do something about the halo golem that just dropped and that takes away a chance for a test
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>>174636695
>>174636734
Most dragon doesn't run this.
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>>174638105
>>
>shrouded assasain
what? why?
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>>174638105
Didn't you know?
Haven is THE control class because wards and heals and removal.
Haven is THE removal class because Themis.
Haven is THE healing class because Elana.
Haven is THE combo class because Seraph.
Haven is THE storm class becaseu birds.
Haven is THE ultimate follower class because Aegis.

All other classes are not allowed to have anything slightly better than them.
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>>174638156
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>>174638347
Most "dragons" are braindead netdecking bandwagon shitters that don't grasp how great of a card it is either. Who ever could have guessed.
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>>174638105
>one craft has the most unconditional heals
>It even has had a t1 deck based around healing
>It isn't "the healing class"
Nice argument
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>>174635853
>the most defensive craft that has a bunch of do nothing wincons outside of Garuda/Eagles
>t1

They'll have to go full tard with the buffs to make the craft viable. It'll either overtune it and make the craft oppressive as fuck or it'll do jack shit.

With how full tard they went with the power creep of this expansion, they'll either pull the same shit leading to people whining about haven more so than usual or, knowing how they fucked up in this expac, they'll pull back on issuing any buffs for the craft, meaning that it'll probably have a bottom level tier 2 deck.

Real winners next expansion are most likely going to be Forest or Sword. Enjoy the T1 roaches and commanders.
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>>174638393
T. Luna
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>>174638347
I see this in almost every match vs dragon
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>>174638431
Yep

Fun times.
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>>174638347
They ran it at the begining
Now that their only encounter is sword/other dragons and shadow
Yeah
Why would you even consider running this

Dragon mirror is not decided by whom can remove more threats, but who gets to forte/genesis/ouro zell or baha zell their opponents face first
And it's super shit against shadow and sword
Haven's big guy doesn't even die by it
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>>174638431
man they werent kidding when they said shadowtards were mentally handicapped
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>>174638036
>discards the backbone of your deck and dies to tribunal
I wonder why
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>>174638475
COUNT

HAVEN

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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>>174638078
Hulking Giant is a meme on par with atomeme. There's not much to do.
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>>174638446
>t1 deck based around healing
>Elana is tier 1
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>>174638604
Never. Skullfam is 2slow.
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>>174638561
I mean lets face it, if forest didn't have PM the only thing it has to face that is early game AE.
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>fairness intensifies
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>>174638604
my sweet big boy will never be good enough
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>>174638623
>had
Nice reading comprehension
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>>174638496
>anyone that says something negative about Haven is a shadow player

Every time.
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>>174638612
Atomeme isn't a meme with mammoths anymore, wtf do you do against a turn 3-4 Atomeme and a Mammoth? Nothing at best you can kill one and suffer 8 face damage.
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>>174638604
why do useless legos like this and eidolon get the best evo art
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>>174638714
>when a d shitter kaleidos your zell for lethal
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>>174638714
>with Sybil/salamander/ouro/GRIIIIIIIIM in hand

Oh god that is nasty.
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Haven is the strongest class
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>>174638714
I just auto surrender if dragon starts first, somehow they never brick and always reach 10 pp like its nothing.
Dragon going first honestly even worse than shadow going first, at least against shadow I can try fighting back
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>>174638762
But that's a gamble. Gamble decks are meme.
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>>174638736
Go back to your free wins on ladder, Luna.
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>>174638261
Well, we had posts like this from the CM when people were discussing possible Daria nerfs, but nothing yet about Shadow. https://forums.shadowverse.com/index.php?/topic/4917-daria-spellboost-and-powercreep-please-no-more/#comment-26431
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>>174638714
>turn 5
>10pp

B A L A N C E D
A
L
A
N
C
E
D
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>>174638791
I'm guessing the guy in charge of Haven's art/balance/whatever is a closet Timmy who wants Haven to have the cool followers.

Too bad that guy wasn't assigned to Dragon. Stuck with a memecraft that does squat.
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>>174638662
>>174638719
SET MY AMULET DUMPERS FREE!

>>174638791
Because kikegames knows the truth. The end is upon us... It is all part of the plan. Do not look back, children of gods. Do not resist, children of demons. There is only one path towards eternal peace: utter nihilism!
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>>174638908
Oh and mind you, the cards were nerfed 10 days after this post.
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>>174638898
>implying I play shadow

You should stop being this delusional already. Just because your class is in the shitter now doesn't mean you can state retarded things and get away with it.
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>>174638938
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>>174638762
Atomy for a bunch of new friends in this expansion
>mammoth
>catacombs
>alta

Heck with Alta you could potentially drop 3 atomy's the same turn with the perfect set up.
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>play against meme frog as storm haven
>no turn 5 lion
>no turn 6 themis
>lose

Outskilled. Cygames does it again in this skill-based, interactive, two player card game.
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>>174638859
maybe cygames should just admit that they fucked up with haven and just offer to recycle all the haven cards so that they could focus on 6ish viable crafts.

haven was a mistake.
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>>174638791
>Beast Dominator is one of the hottest waifu cards in the entire game
>one of the most useless too
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>>174638898
>is upset because he can't get any free wins against shadow anymore
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>>174638762
I have yet to see turn 3 atomammoth though
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>Nobody wants more bird support
>Even though it's a fun deck and Garuda is the best

I get that it's not in a bad place compared to the rest of Haven, but still, fuck you guys.
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>>174639161
How?
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>>174639202
>play card game
>don't draw the cards you need to counter opponent
>lose
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Why are you playing a card game in the first place? They're supposed to be up draw luck.
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>>174638938
>turn 5

That's my turn 6. I hit the "perfect" ramp curve that game with Oracle -> Rahab -> Fervor -> Sybil + Oracle which put me at 10 pp on turn 6
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Dailycraft = best craft.
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>>174639283
You got Dark Jeanne though.
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>>174639198
>potentially drop 3 atomy's the same turn
And then overwrite each other. You're a genius, luna.
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>every dragon player has perfect ramp
>implying (you) cant flood the board with cheap shit in the meantime
do you gays even play the game
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>>174638908
Shadow's probably going to be fine because people are able to run counters but don't which is the opposite of the problems with the previously nerfed cards. I think dragon will be left alone in a move towards more last words/sexton/liza/lecia/mist shaman/shrine knight maiden/sarissa type cards to carve out the headroom where big guys went.

>>174639198
The day you do it you'll be facing rune and they'll have winter's carpice for no reason

>>174639278
It was always rare with the whole chain multiple specific cards factor. Not to mention they have a shit draw engine.
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>>174639091
But Haven isn't my class. Now stop being a bad girl and stop shitposting Luna.
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>>174639360
Never post webms again.
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Sword and Forest got fucked the most in this expansion huh.
The best lists for both crafts are basically the same in RoB but with Aerins/Luminious Mages. I don't even see Luminious Mages lasting long since it fucks Albert draws with maid leader.
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>>174639283
I play Jeannu in my storm haven deck, it's really good. I also thought that it got no support before the expansion came out.
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>>174639348
>not double oracle instead of Rahab
>perfect
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>>174639368

And she's a very good board clear and damage push card. It's just you guys seem to be talking about next expac. It'd be a very shitty feeling to see no bird support in that expac.
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>>174639435
Why?
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>play against the casino as a player
>blackjack
>have an 8 and a 9
>need a 4 to win
>draw a 5
>lose
Outskilled. Casino does it again in this skill-based, interactive, two player card game.
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>>174639387
>>174639387
>with Alta you could potentially drop 3 atomy's the same turn with the perfect set up

Can't skip out the start of the sentence sempai

Wait...you do know what evo'd Alta does right?

Oh god you're a dragon player who drops Saqa into Alta aren't you
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>>174639490
keep saying this in all expansions
>w.ah wah forest and sword are tier 3...
>suddenly tier 1 stomping everyone
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>>174639283
It's not fun to play against and storm is bad for the health of the game
Enjoy your dark jeanne, sonia, and calydonian
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>>174639360
What is this, a webm for ants?
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>>174639398
I play it and literally everyone gets the most perfect shit curves all the fucking time, dragon always has fucking ramp, shadow always has prince catacomb by turn 3, no exceptions.
It feels as if I have abysmal luck and am facing against people who are mulligan wizards with the luck of a god.
Meanwhile when I try to mulligan my bad hand I get a 5 a 6 and a 7, because fuck me.
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>>174639554
>stretched
>800x600
>black bar at the bottom
>rendered with like 500 bitrate and artifacts all over the place
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>>174639565
Seems like you're the one who doesn't know.
0 cost Atomeme is not a "play from hand effect" it's a "in hand" effect.
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>>174639565
ESL-kun, you need to cool down. https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/104021030
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>>174639490
>but with Aerins/Luminious Mages
Jungle albert and elf queen too.
Lucia is also pretty much sword's equivalent of Liza, but she's not going to see more play until sword gets win cons beyond albert and alwida.
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Should i wait for the next expansion to get back to the game or is it okay now?
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>>174639283
I'm not sure if I want more bird support, even as someone who spams birds. It feels like the deck actually needs some future turn planning and knowing when to trade and go face, but if they make it any stronger/easier the metafags will flock to it like birds to my enemy Isabelle's face. Birds is probably the funnest deck to play in the game atm. Feels incredibly satisfying buffing up a 2/1 into a 7/6 and hearing the enemy leader's "SEVERE damage" line trigger.
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>>174639340
The issue is that there is a lack of interaction options. Storm haven can be successful because you can normally use your followers to board control as well as go face. Doesn't work against frog. So again, no skill required from either player. Some "game."
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>>174639490
>Sword and Forest got fucked the most in this expansion huh.
>when OTK roach is making it's unsurprising comeback and midrange sword is still a thing

gr8 b8, m8, r8 it an 8 outta 8.
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>>174639556
>play a moba
>my adc is potato and does jackshit
>throws the game by afking at base
>we lose
Out-fucking-skilled am I right?
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>>174634403
>Nothing wrong with a girl (male). The buttgina is still just as fertile.
traps are gay and vagina > anus
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>>174639000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj7gu1XRonQ
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>>174639816

That's actually a fair point. I don't want them to be pushed like midrange shadow was. I don't want them to be neglected either.
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>>174639565
Who fuck is Alta. Do you mean Elter? That's gotta be fixed soon, because Atomy's is also fanfare.
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Its so fucking stupid that I can play aggro vs a dragon ramp deck and not do any damage to them the entire game.
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>>174639996
What is going to get fixed soon? Nothing is broken.
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>>174639740
>>174639754
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>>174639796
Do you have the cards to play Wallet Dragon or Aggro/Midrange Shadow?

>Yes
>No

If yes, happy laddering, enjoy your free ez wins, moreso if you play shadow.
If no, venture at your own peril. enjoy swimming in a sea of "bluest waters" and "what r u hiding inside".
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>>174640064
Thank God
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>trying to chemo shadow with bishop
>get 3 elves in a row
it's like they want the ladder to be full of cancer
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>>174639796
Even if you wanted to wait, you have to keep doing dailies. As f2p you only get about 35 packs a month unless you step up your arena game. Without that or whaling you can never catch up.

>>174639996
Is it really that hard to remember Elta?

Nothing is broken.

>https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/101541020
>If 4 allied cards are in play, change the cost of this follower to 0 and give it Fanfare: Destroy all other allied cards.
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>>174639996
Who the fuck is Elter? Do you mean Elta?
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>>174640101
Is midsword at least playable now?
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>>174640154
Are you me?
I was memeing with an amulet only deck and every match was either Aegis Haven, Dshift or 4 roaches in a row. It's like all the shit classes got their own matchmaking.
I then gave up an went back to my midrange shadow mirrors because that's what they want apparently
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>>174640235
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha yes
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Octobishop is surprising value in T2, damn
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>>174639736
>3mb limit
What do you expect? Nobody forces you to watch anyway, you can learn about 800x600 in the title.
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>>174640235
midsword is fine

you'll get fucked if shadow curves well though
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>>174640381
it's the forced 50%, after they lose to shadow enough they toss the forestfags free wins against haven :^)
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>>174640235
Yes. Just don't expect to do well against Shadow, lesser extent with Dragon. You'll be able to dunk on most other crafts with ease, though.
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>>174640235
the only decent sword deck is the old rob deck with luminous mage and grimnir added

the rest of their new cards are pure garbage
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Does a card that says "reduce the defense of all minions with 1 defense to 0" make any sense to circumvent Aegis? And before you shitpost no, I don't think the Aegis deck is overpowered, just trying to imagine a possible counter card.
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>>174639521
Double oracle on 3 is honestly not that good because you don't have a great follow up unless you can play double Aiela and your opponent is stupid enough to kill them both which puts you at 10 on the next turn (turn 5 which is the earliest possible you can start at 10 pp right now).

Even then, ramping that hard is also a great way to die because you burn out of cards and have to top deck all your answers. It's honestly much better to try and save the extra oracles for overflow so you get the card draw along with the ramp.

The only single card possibly worth ramping that hard into is Satan. Perfect curve for him would be like Oracle -> Double Oracle -> Fervor + Emissary(pulls Satan) -> Satan
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>clarke into 2 sugoi mahou
wew
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>>174640235
It was never unplayable just mediocre winrates against dragon and shadow.
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>storm haven loses to everything, including memes and outdated decks
>tier 2

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>174640235
of course
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DARK JEANNE WILL SAVE HAVEN
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>>174640493
How many dragons and shadows you find comparing to the other crafts?
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>>174637803
In B2, maybe.
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>>174640536
They don't want a counter card. They want it impossible to go to turn 15 at worst.
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>>174640178
Elta is such a faggot, so yes. That combo is disgusting then. Nullifying the cards drawback can't be right and need to be fixed after all.
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>>174640729
>print card with drawback
>print card that makes said card playable by doing a two card combo
>THAT'S BROKEN
no you're just retarded
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>>174640729
You sound like a dragon that dropped GRIIIIIIIMNIIIIIRRR into an evo'd Elta and got lethaled the following turn.
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>>174640729
Fucking kill yourself. You have no idea how inconsistent and vulnerable it is. There's good reason why atomemer isn't tier 1 blotting out the sun. Oh that's right, you're just a brainless bandwagon netdecker playing the greediest deck imaginable.
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>>174638214
Cards like Mastema can still only go face even with ToS on board you C1.
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>Rune Dailies
>Wasted all my vials crafting Darias
>Still get out out swarmed by aggro/mid shadow
>Still get removed by Dragon unless I god draw

Should have made some Merlins instead. Daria is garbage in this meta.
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>>174640808
What the fuck I am supposed to do, Themis it on turn 4-5?
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>>174640729
Except for the biggest drawback, actually drawing the damn thing then ALSO drawing Elta and then ALSO have at least 4 dudes on the board.
Stop bitching about some meme deck you rarely even see.
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>>174640536
If you're going to imagine a counter card to Aegis, one possibility would probably be a neutral card that reduces the attack stat of a follower down to 1. It's the reason why Kaguya's Ephemeral Word is even on the radar when discussing the turn 9 do nothing. Otherwise, >>174640715 is most likely on the right track. Aegis is mostly a non-issue in this meta and I really doubt that an incredibly slow wincon will matter when there aren't really any decent support cards for the Aegis deck.

Aegis will be Tier 3 by the end of this expansion. Calling it.
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>>174640889
And what happens with the Hulking Giant you fucking mongoloid?
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>>174640905
you don't need merlin in d-shift anymore this deck is the most budget in the game now
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>>174640502
is lecia not worth it as tech?
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>>174640918
You accept your fate that you've been unlucky this time and open your mouth for that big Atomeme dick.
A single Atomeme is actually much much easier to deal with that you'd think, especially on turn 4 unless you were doing literally nothing.
You literally sound like a B rank who's never seen Atomeme dropped in his life.
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>play seraph
>3x of her
>draw 27 cards
>she's somehow not there

Give Haven a tutor that's not shit, PLEASE.
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>>174640968
Aegis is meme tier
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>>174640921
Then explain this guy here. Why isn't he like Atomeme?
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>>174640729
Bet you're the same kind of faggot that would complain about something like this
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>ahead the entire game as Storm Have vs Shadownigger
>Shadownigger barely has any cards and I have a Lion, an evolved Moon and a damaged Cudgel on board, 2 health vs 17
>turn 7
>Shadownigger plays Eachtar, clears my entire board
>try to defend myself
>get a Orthurs buffed Eachtar to the face
>kill the Eachtar
>next turn he plays Howl+Coco+Mimi he had in hand since a few turns back
>lose
Nice fucking game.
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>>174641184
Because he's a silver and not a Lego.
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>>174641025
Not really. Nobody she helps against is stopped by losing only 1 clear and only a meme deck ambushes her to force the waste of a clear.

>>174640918
Use any wards then start unzipping your removals. There's plenty of bane/bounce/destruction on top of damage+board+evo reach but you greedy fucks don't run it. Your fucking greed doesn't warrant a nerf you brainless inbred cumdump.

>>174641184
Can't keep a board in cancerverse and a max board size of 5 prevents your ability to flood wide with ironwrought and your widest summoners. so for the most part he's a 6-7pp 6/6 vanilla which is really, really, really, really, really bad.
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>>174641235
Is that actually viable in MtG or is it atomeme tier?
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is there any fanart of the melf?
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>>174641248
>no free wins against shadow anymore
Such is life.
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>>174641248
It's almost like eachtar is the most OP leggo in the game.
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>>174641248
>haven getting this assblasted about shadow
Nice fucking game indeed.
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>>174641365
It's just as meme tier as atomeme
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>>174641097
We are talking about some Atomeme on esteroids here. I've never lose to a single atomy.
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>>174641184
Sword's mechanic is about followers on board and officer/commander mechanics. Shadow is about shadows and sacrifice.
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>>174639604
Yes, for you.
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>>174640536
Since nobody understood your post, I'll answer it. Yes, it works, reducing the health of a follower to 0 should kill it.
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why do shitters always complain about the finisher but not the engine that makes the deck worl?
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>>174641421
>dies to themis

it's shit
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>>174641435
>MUH 6 GORILLION
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Can I get some advice on where to go during this expansion? I'm getting desperate; all this shadow and dragon bullshit is killing my Johnny Spirit.

All I can think to do is Mid Sword, but I'd still need to craft 3x Alwilda and it's not really fun, either. I miss combo decks that worked once out of five times.
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>>174641257
Good point.
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>>174641532
Because an engine can be repurposed. A roach will always roach. Even with shadowtumor it enables guilty courier/phantom dragon/soul eater/shadow reaper/necropolis queen/lord of the flies and others to have a place but they can't because they're day 1 obsolete.
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>>174641461
It's a weird, very situational draw and it happens once in a full moon, but it happens.

t. one who got Eltomeme'd and faced a 6/7, an evolved 3/3, and an 8/8. and some other follower I forgot. It was honestly impressive. The card player meme'd hard.
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I want to play blood.
Convince me not to craft 2 belphegor.
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>>174641570
>MUH NUREMBERG TRIALS

Get rekt Havenshitter.
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>>174641664
>2 animated Eidolon of Memes
>>
>nigger does nothing other than ramping and dropping a couple of followers when he's at 7pp
>he still almost wins because he manages to heal up a shitton from 2hp
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>>174641805
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174641805
*Nürnberg
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>>174641361
You know what? Give the General a drawback and buff his ass so we can combo it with Elta. It's fucking stupid
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>>174641806
I know, as a diehard memer they're my pride and joy, and I swear I'm gonna make it work someday. Maybe once I get some more Devourer of Heavens and a Grail or two.

Probably going to pay to craft a third one.
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>>174641825
>I WON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174641664
Wow you literally got nothing huh
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>>174641863
I will, buffs my reaper and spawns some skeletons.
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>>174641805
We'll see how cocky you are in a month when you're no longer playing a t0 deck.
>>
Watching Kripp playing shadowverse is so fucking painful. His opponents are so fucking trash. He plays a shitty homebrew Aegis deck and goes on 10 game winning streaks.

Meanwhile my A0 run consisted of japanese high rolling netdeckers. I couldn't escape until I abused the fuck out of OTK roach.
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>>174642019
Yep. Pretty sure the luckiest I got were the 3x Daria, but I never even played a Daria deck out of protest during RoB.
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>>174642141
It's called sponsored matchmaking.
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>>174642081
Definitely not as cocky as you are assblasted right now.
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>>174641664
Update it for totg and play around with cursed storm if you want to play combo
Midsword will still eke out wins regardless

You can also play a pendant deck that burns face while scorching the board a scarlet red
There's some flute lists that are doing exceptional in masters. Pucewyrm has been a godsend.

You could play the more storm/burn focused enchanted blade tempo rune variant
Conjuring snow lists are still slugging it out as well

Just midshadow. Budget works out fine. You can really patch it up with golds.
Or run the phantom dragon ambush shadow face race list.

Wolf is timeless so you shouldn't feel bad crafting him and you can run it with bolts or queen/anomaly or whatever.

Depending on your gold amulet situation, you can run count haven. Remember to mist your eidolon and swing hard with manifestation

You're sitting pretty bad for blood. Probably going to just have to do some dumpster list or run a soul dominator aggro bats
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>>174642081
It's not his fault, that you can't get free wins against shadow now.
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>>174642081
We already saw how cocky u guys are at DE. Now it's shit eating time for you.
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>>174641784
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>>174642289
>Just midshadow. Budget works out fine. You can really patch it up with golds.
Midshadow without Cerb/Each? How?
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>>174641664
i think 2 alwida is fine

i like running weird tech in midsword to make it interesting
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>>174642347
>you can't get wins against shadow now.
Fixed it for you.
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>>174642407
craft them
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>>174641784
CBlood doesn't seem that good right now, and the other deck that uses Belphegor also uses three Soul Dealers.
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>>174641784
Probably better off getting 2 blood moons and the other cards to run a mid vengeance list.You'll be able to get a lot of powerful golds instead

>>174641895
How about we just expand the board to 20 board slots. Set my heavy knights free. SET MY NIGGAS FREE!
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>>174641784
>>174642407
don't do it after nerf blood will be tier 4
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>>174641784
Because you have no soul dealers
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>>174642465
Just play shadow, that way shadow always wins :^)
>>
are there really no lewds of ancient elf?
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>>174642347
Shadow still is free wins, you just need to run Israfil instead of Aegis for the extra board clear.
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>>174642347
Nice meme deck.
>>
Just lost against neutral deck with ramp cards. The guy was 2pp ahead and used 2 grimnirs in a row, He beat my tier 2 deck like it's nothing while i didn't get proper cards to counter him.
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>>174642496
>>174642534
>>174642498
But other master rank players go on big streaks without soul dealer like
>>174634918
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>>174642440
Dolorblade or combo a squasher/reaper and catacomb
Thane into zombie party/death's breath into your lord of the flies

Looking at your junk, after you do your dailies you need to spend a lot of time mining arena to unfuck your shit.
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Shadow being T0 is bad desu. We've basically lost any right to complain about anything ever again, no matter how legitimate it is. Even if they nerf shadow to tier infinity all the extra butthurt havenshitters will never let us live it down.

Enjoy it while you can shadowbros because soon anything you post will be discredited even more than it already is now.
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>>174642743
Look man, do whatever you want. Just saying if you go for 2 belhpegor you still don't even have a skeleton. You're better off getting 9 golds instead of 2 legos you can't really take advantage of at this point in your blood library.
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>>174642995
I'm a nepnigger and I fucking despise you midrange shitters
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>>174629354
Why does Eris wield a spear?
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>>174642995
The people with more than one deck in this general should gang up on filthy mainers desu.
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>>174643126
Why, following /svg/ trend?
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>>174643126
>not playing all shadow
I've won with Nep against midrange. You have more chance than most decks anyway.
It's also doesn't matter, you still play shadow and that's enough. Even a shitty tyrant deck is now T0 in the eyes of everyone.
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>>174642595
There's always room for more.
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How often do you think they go at it?
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>>174642995
Or you all could stop being cucked, and blame Cygames for their bad game design instead of blaming players for playing the game as it exists.
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>>174643185
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>>174641135
Prism Priest
Now stop whining
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>>174643368
Separated living, don't talk
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>>174643310
Nah. Tyrant is cool.
>>
>>174643343
Have u tried necroelementist instead of humpty?
>>
>>174643368
elves are smug cunts who probably think sex for fun is something only lower races do

reminder that it's not rape if it's an elf
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>>174643185
looks like a scepter/staff to me mate
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>>174643502
Maybe, if you play it without catacomb/lolisquisher/orthrus.
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>>174643368
Political marriage only

King is too busy with running the kingdom
Queen is too addicted to orc cocks to consumate the marraige
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>>174643502
Tell that to Rowen when he gets out dragon'd by a little girl
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>>174642995
You're going to get punished just like Rune was. You'll be nerfed harder than they were with Piercing Rune and will only get Minthe meme cards next expansion on top of some random garbage while everyone else gets good cards and counters to board floods.

Live it up while you can, this will be the last time shadow will be good for 6 months.
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>>174643068
I'm not aware of a blood deck besides mastema that doesn't use leggos.
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>>174642289
Hah, you listed just about everything I've been playing up until now! I just haven't been able to modernize my decks enough, so I can't compete with Shadow Dragon.

Before local frog ruined everything, I played a Rogue's Creed ambush deck with Cursed General and Albert as backup.

Rune has always been my favorite class since it has so many variations, and Conjuring had the first place in my heart. I've been giving the turn 7 OTK blade mage build with Ariette a try, but out of maybe 20-30 attempts I only won twice. Just doesn't hold a candle when the only boon from TotG was Enchanted Blade, which is never down to 0 in time.

I basically gave up on Forest and Shadow since I don't have any Roaches/Reapers or Ancient Elf/Cerbs. I mulligan their dailies and hope I don't need to Neutral it/pray for a conceding sandbagger to get matched with.

My Dragonsong Spire deck with all 3pp mobs is pretty hilarious watching how the enemy deals with a neverending stream of dragons, but obviously it's not very effective, and it gets old kind of fast. Sometimes he goes into the daily mulligan category, too.

Storm Haven was okay for a while, but I guess the meta caught on cause I'm just straight fucked lately. Misted Eidolon is still such a prime target for random damage and the plentiful board clears that it hasn't moved past the experimental stage yet. Plus I've yet to get a real wincon set up besides hoping to overwhelm them with cheap amulet followers.

I can manage Blood okay with mid Mastemacraft or cookie cutter aggro. Not a high priority, with my shit legos.

I guess my problem really just lies in updating anything to work in TotG.
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>>174643731
I mostly play shadow and you are fucking absolutely right
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>>174642995
You complexed babies are never legitimate. Cuck off
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>>174643425
>>174643528
Look closer, it looks like a cold weapon. Especially the end of it
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>>174644067
>that waist to hips ratio
hngggh!
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>>174642874
This is all my shadow rares. Should I even bother?
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>>174644067
Looks very warmed up famlia
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>>174643516
>elves are smug cunts who probably think sex for fun is something only lower races do
That's like thinking the fucking French don't fuck.
It's an even larger leap in logic because the fucking elves are all tree-hugging romantics. They don't even have the aura of cuntiness to hinder their chances of reproduction.
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>>174643859
I still play rogues creed from time to time
Frog and that ambush follower with bane are welcome additions.
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>>174644067

>it has pointy end
>me use it to stab things
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nerfs when
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>>174643493
I said "non shit" tutor explicitely, Prism is cute but lolrandumb
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>>174644236
Hi there ESL-kun, look up cold weapon and learn a new thing!
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>>174644143
i hope you are not implying she has memewaist because she actually has beautiful 17yo-like hips
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>>174644191
>2 atomy
You know what you must do.
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>>174644297
Let's be honest, it has a lot of pointy bits, would make a damn fine spear in a pinch.
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don't lewd the bishop she is for huggy-huggy fluggy things
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>>174644338
Wow look at this motherfucking retard who doesn't understand sarcasm. Your post about Eris was so dumb that no one can help it.
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>>174644416
Vial them and craft Hectar?
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>>174644338
Hi there redditor, look up "joke" and learn a new thing!

Not even the fucking guy that you're replying to. You people do really take everything literally unless there's a "/sarcasm" attached at the end of it, huh?
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>Meet someone doing their trials
>It's a shifter
>Beat them with this
Man that had to sting to lose to a 2,900 vials deck without even a gold.

>>174643737
Legos are great but you still get a lot of mileage out of golds while having more so you have a greater power boost.

>>174643859
You can still play ambush, arriet and lecia-assassin was the hero you needed

You should craft roaches, they're core and future-proof. Ditto with reapers. You'll aggro your way through with a decent winrate

You can put together any kind of storm dragon list really if you want variety.

Yeah, count haven is pretty much try to hit them with a holywing so your storm amulets and garuda can finish the job.

Just look at the totg cards and think about how your deck works and how it wins then see if anything makes it better.

>>174644191
Well you need a dailies deck and they're pretty futureproof. Hit that arena man and fill out your standard so you start raking in vials to fill out your golds for your dailies decks.
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>>174644486
I want to make an entire football team with Eris!
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>>174644191
>1 death's breath
>1 shadow reaper

You pretty much need x3 of these golds as well
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>>174641806
The saddest part is that you barely can see the animation when it's on board because of the chains.
>>
Always bully lunafags
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>>174644538
>not even Catacomb
Why?
>>
>>174644471

To kill one person via foward thrust. The points would just break off inside the person. A cudgel is where it's at.
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>>174644416
I actually patched up a poverty shadow dick that runs Atomeme and Cursed Soldier as finishers, it's fun but not stronk enough for ranked.
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>>174644486
Eris is nothing but a prostitute priest/nun like those from ancient Greece

How do you think she was traumatized so hard she split into two?
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>>174644684
It was a pre-totg list
>>
74394

plz
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>>174644791
shut the fuck up cunt
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>>174644791
t. Dumb shadowshit
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>>174644934
Thank you kek
>>
55630

Please concede. If you stay after, I will concede too!
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>>174644538
>Hit that arena man
But I haven't got a Roland yet...
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>>174644067
I want to make Eris a mother!
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>>174645514
You're too short on everything. You have a month to pile up vials and then you need to hoard for the next expansion.
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>>174645532
ERIS IS FOR ANAL ONLY

HER HYMEN MUST REMAIN INTACT FOR HER TO REMAIN A PURE NUN OF THE CHURCH
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>just want to play some haven
>select wrong dick by mistake
>still win
top kek
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>>174645906
thats just means i need to remodel her wastehole into a babymaking factory, and she keeps her purity
literally win-win situation for me
>>
>>174644538
I gave up arena after I could never break two wins, so I'm a little rusty. Is there an up to date tier list for Take Two picks? The one in the OP doesn't include totg.
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>>174646098
Muscle memory is such a bitch.
>Tried to play may OTK roach deck at least 5 times after the nerf
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>Transforming my flying rats into regular rats
Unforgivable
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>>174644791
Hey, I'm here to mating press Eris? How much will that cost?
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Quick someone concede to me!

69935
>>
Can I get a unique suicider for daily and achievement?

43767
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>>174645781
Good Standard rares I lack: 47
DE: 28
RoB: 12
ToG: 36

Well, I never realized that. Guess I'll stop playing ranked once I hit 50k.
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>>174646616
completely free for all disgusting fat men
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Playing rune is suffering.
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>>174646632
Please someone. Do it for the dragon loli.
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This triggers the newfags.
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Can I get a concede??

20792
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>>174646886
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>>174646320
There's a couple kicking around
>>
>TFW the game is so shit you don't even want to play dailies anymore

When do they patch in the gameplay instead of just seeing who has the better top 6 cards of their deck?
>>
>>174646895
But I only use sleeves of cards that I actually run in the deck that I use them for and I have no deck that runs Bellringer
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>>174646801
Good. Fuck rune. Worst craft, I should vial the rest of the shit I didn't vial
>>
>>174646801
Daria is still as retarded as ever. Play her.
>>
>>174646632
Thank you, Forte.
>>
>>174646678
Still here, if someone can let me kill them!
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>>174646795
Awesome, I'll make sure to smother her with my body and drown her in my seed. Her body and womb will be all mine soon.
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>>174646990
Nice blog, crybaby.
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>>174646926
Tyty
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Using Skellington Man and Armpit Miko should be considered war crimes.
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>>174646926
>dat tiny bit of pantsu peeking
>>
>hate shadow
>hate dragon
>know that when they get nerfed forest will go back to t0
>hate losing to roach more than anything
just kill me now
>>
>>174647267
>Skellington Man
W-what's wrong with mordecai?
>>
>>174647136
Kill yourself, shadownigger
>>
>>174646591
I still don't get mutagenic bolt.Dirt's dead. Run winter's caprice instead of killing yourself

>>174646784
It's 4 wins a day per month to hit 120 wins for the sleeves.
Basically, the reasoning is that once your standard library is mostly full, you'll be getting 200+ vials per pack and getting about 3-5 packs per 150 gold per day which basically lets you pick what the fuck ever gold you want. That comes out better than just filing into the gacha and praying.

>>174646990
According to the last 9 months, never. Cry on the forums to the CM or get you and your closest 40k reddit/twitter fuccbois to mail physical letters about it to kikegames. Shitposting does nothing.
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>>174646993
>But I only use sleeves of cards that I actually run in the deck that I use them for
>>
>>174645532
>>174645906
fuck off shadowbabies
>>
>>174647042
>do it for the dragon loli
>forte answers
makes you think
>>
>>174646993
>Using sleeves of cards that are in your deck
>Not using sleeves of cards from other archetypes to ruse your opponent. (Example: Using Mordecai sleeves when you are playing Mid Shadow, and using Soulsquasher sleeves when playing Nep.)
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To the guy who posted this meme zombie deck yesterday, this thing mulls like garbage. You're lucky if you get a play before turn 3. It's terrible against any aggressive deck.
>>
>>174647402
That said, you still want to save up the 3rd month. About 40-50 packs lets you get most of the silvers of an expansion
>>
>>174647412
>shadowbabs want to impregnate eris
so it's all pent-up sexual frustration huh
>>
>>174646993
>>174647405

Does the GBF Jeanne sleeve count if you're running D'Arc?
>>
>>174647059
Thanks again, Catarino! Unfortunately you've already helped me out a few times before so no achievement, but I'm grateful nonetheless.

Really awesome of you to watch the general for people in need of help like this. Good on you mate.
>>
>>174647512
It only have 14 cards that can be played in those slots. What do you expect? Soul eater off into the sunset
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>>174647512
>spartoi
>more spartoi
>dullahan
>necropolis queen
>1s
Beginner?
>>
>>174647512
i'm pretty sure that anon was trolling you
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>>174647512
You actually played it?!
AHAHAHHAHA
>>
>>174647706
Learn to read idiot.
>>
>>174647584
That explain why she never called Eris for an adventure.
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>>174647706
Fiteme

>>174647724
It's the real deal. You plebs just don't understand my vision. Everyone will be playing variations of it by june.
>>
>>174647978
That's not you. Since this screenshot a while back and even the filename disagrees.
>>
>>174647402
>It's 4 wins a day per month to hit 120 wins for the sleeves.
Yeah I'm at 48k, sleeves are already mine, that's not an issue.

>Basically, the reasoning is that once your standard library is mostly full, you'll be getting 200+ vials per pack and getting about 3-5 packs per 150 gold per day which basically lets you pick what the fuck ever gold you want. That comes out better than just filing into the gacha and praying.
So the idea is "dump anything into arena for standard packs, then you'll swim in dust to make whatever you need (or finally draw a fuking Cerb)"?
Sounds good to me, and I actually like Arena. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>174647978
don't bully poorfags and newfags
>>
>>174647338
Forest already does well against Dragon. All they need is a better Shadow matchup and then it'll be back to Roach city.
>>
>>174647978
Not only is that not you, but you reposted an image that I posted here first a while back in the first place of that guy in the first place
>>
>>174648192
Don't molest Patchy.
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>>174647978
>>174648131
That said, who the fuck is autistic enough to play 6000 matches and with only blood at that!?
Does he have no life? Does he not get bored?
Like after 200 matches in ranked I typically get bored of a craft and switch to something else.
>>
>>174647978
>0 shadow games
Dunno about you all, but humorous enough.
>>
>>174648283
>6000
He's at like close to 8000 by now I'm pretty sure
>>
>>174648261
Patch was born to be molested, which is why she is constantly hypnotized and raped by goblins on sadpanda.
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>>174648192
Don't bully them yourself.

Darkness falls across the land
The midnight hour is close at hand
Creatures crawl in search of blood
To terrorize y'awl's neighborhood
And whosoever shall be found
Without the soul for getting down
Must stand and face the hounds of hell
And rot inside a corpse's shell

The foulest stench is in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grizzly ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller
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>>174648407

There's not THAT much on sadpanda. Although there are some great ones.
>>
>>174648179
Well, what you do is you open about 40-60 packs to get the set's silvers. Whatever gold/legos you get are gravy. You have 2 months of dailies/arena raking in dust and perpetual arena fodder to make whatever you want. The third month you save up to dump on the new expansion and repeat.
>>
Why is it so hard to go infinite in arena in this game
>>
>>174648827
>>174648827
>>174648827
new thread
>>
>>174648679
So one should stop buying, say, ToG packs once he's got all the silvers?

>>174648795
Because if you win the first 4 they match you with a constructed deck.
>>
>>174648898
If you can reliably 4-1/5-0 yes. Emblems aren't that big of a deal and unless you were here from the start you can't really afford it.
>>
>>174649285
Do it.
>>
>>174649285
Yes. 1 dragoon will always be good for clearing wards and additional face reach. You gotta slow down and enjoy life.
>>
>>174643368
There's 2 princesses so at least 2 times.
>>
>>174649442
There's only one Elf princess though. The other one is a fairy.
>>
>>174649761
Oh yeah.
>>
>>174649182
Thanks, you've been real helpful.
>>
>>174649761
Elf of the gemstone is an elven princess too. Or at least she used to have that title in Rage of Bahamut.
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FUCK
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>>174651472
>complaining about the primary weakness of Dshift
I don't even hate DShift that much, but you deserve it
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