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/ndg/ - NieR/Drakengard General #65

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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

Mr. & Mrs. YoRHa Edition

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

>[NieR: Automata Mining and Moddin Steam Group]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM

>[Nier Automata Lossless OST + Bonus HACKING TRACKS Disc]
https://mega.nz/#F!xpND2ZQI!SGnaDUc7MW5VDCJ4B9q4xA
https://mega.nz/#F!ppsjEICJ!SH2WwEAxnsQd99rZfN6u8Q
PASSWORD=hikaru

English track list
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091

Nier:Automata Save Editor:
Python script:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9539mxoe2lyi5s/N_A_editor.py?dl=0
Executable:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jt2gs9ou1nhxhfc/N_A_editor.exe?dl=0

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>>174495378
Does anyone have screenshots of the T shirt conversation?
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>>174495378
first for ass
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Are there any endings where 9S dies and stays dead? I didn't finish all of the joke ones yet.
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>>174495515
Y
Probably W
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I want to have many children with 21O!
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>>174495378
First for White Screen of Death
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>>174495602
I
U
V
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>>174495514
I want to smell her farts
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>>174496013
consider suicide
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First for sadness.
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POST A2
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>>174496303
>Crying
EMOTIONS AREN'T ALLOWED YOU DUMB BITCH
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Best item description.
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>>174497089
BBBRRAAAAAAPP
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Christ this general is slow.
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I have a request. Can someone screenshot this scene without the borders for me? I'm working on something but I can't do it right this moment.

Thank you.
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>>174499447
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>>174499447
man, 2B a cutie...
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we had some good discussions yesterday didn't we lads?
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>>174501604
I refuse to let it die until I've killed the creators of this general.

That's just the way it is.
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>>174499447
>>174499575
The border is from in-game post-processing, the video files don't have it. So
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B39MXLFF7T_Cc0tZQlB5WTJ3SVU/view

Video files (USM file type) are located here: \steamapps\common\NieRAutomata\data\movie

Open VGMToolbox.exe > Expand "Misc. Tools" > Stream Tools > Video Demultiplexer

Under Options > Format - select "USM (CRI Movie 2)"

Drag n' drop all 154 video files into the "Drop files here" section of VGMtoolbox. It will automatically begin unpacking the video files
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>>174503974

This is very helpful. Thank you so much.
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>>174504395
np my dude make sure to post lots of screenshots without the letterbox.
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>>174495510
Too large to host as a single image here and I don't want to spam the thread with 14 posts: https://imgur.com/a/7gtt9
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Who's looking forward to SINoALICE here? I don't want to go to mobage general.
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>>174505496
This scene was so adorable yet sad when you understand that there's no thing that 2B wants more than to break from the pointless conflict and protect what she loves.
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>>174505839
I'm lukewarm on it and it seems like most of the interest in here so far has been about the new weapon stories.
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As the youngest of 5 brothers I find the interactions between Adam and Eve to be kinda nostalgic.
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>That conversation 9S and 2B have after delivering A2's data to Anemone.
>2B implying her deep seated feelings due to her and 9S's past
Makes much more sense when you have your second playthrough.
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>>174506295
What did you play with your brothers?
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>>174506334
>Dat Kaine soon
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>>174506498
We really need Emil's costume for 9S
will be rad as fuck together with telekinetic emil heads
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>>174506393
When I was really young my youngest older brother and I would play pretend like we were wizards or whatever was on our minds while my other brothers and I would wrestle, which was mostly just them throwing me around and slamming me on beds.
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I have run through the game so many times now that I have had to turn off the music so I don't burn out on it and replace it with my own tracks.

I have found this to be weirdly appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5uQMwRMHcs
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>>174506689
>mommy 2B will never physically pull you out of danger
Why live?
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I just want a qt android gf

I-is that a lot to ask?
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>>174505496
Oh shit, thanks.
I didn't realize it was me you were replying to.
I guess that's what happens when you alternate between PC and phone.
A couple of androids will be very happy because of you.
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>>174509307
What are you gonna do, Anon?
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>>174509591
I'm gonna write something.

You may remember me, this is going to help me close a gap.
That's all I'll say about it.

I'm sorry.
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2B Toobie Toobs Toober Tooby Toob Toobin'
2B2B2B
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>>174510798
2B is amazing!
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>>174495378
Sequel or prequel when?
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>>174510928
>prequel
What is the first NieR?
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>>174510928
https://twitter.com/sinoalice_jp/status/854923055599988737
SINoALICE
>Look forward to an untold story from NieR:Automata
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>>174511421
The main cast was covered fairly well in Automata + additional materials.
Maybe something about Jackass? She needs more love.
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>>174511470
Maybe. I want a JackWhite story of how they met. I hope someone translates the Automata sections of this game.
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I just want some TooBig ass on my face right now
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I love Toobie so much. Everything about her is amazing. The way she struts with confidence,the way she speaks with a firm but soft tone. Her soft pink lips, a pair of mesmerizing eyes, those small delicate hands. She really is the perfect woman. Imagine being able to take those gloves off and hold her hands, fingers entwined while the both of you do nothing but sit at each other's sides watching the streams flow,the gentle breeze blow and the birds sing. Both of you never say a thing the whole time, but it's as if you're both exchanging love letters longer and more deep than a great epic.

I'd do anything to see her smile, even just a small one is enough to make my day
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>>174513515
I didn't need these feels in my life.

fuck you anon... and thank you~...
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>>174513576
After you've beat him for his heads, a new quest marker should appear in the abandoned shopping mall. Go there.
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>>174513515
It's okay 9S, she loves you too.
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>>174513868
Appreciate the hint, but no such thing exists for me. It must be related to where I'm at in the story. All he's doing is spawning outside the desert talking about how someone broke into his place. I guess I'll just progress the story, and hope he starts doing something else at some point.
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>>174514228
you have to go back to the cave before his home and hack open the chest there. That triggers the boss fight
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>>174514018
I can't even look at this.
Seeing 2B so happy that she's on the verge of tears is too much for me.
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>>174514408
I've already done that. I already beat him. He keeps saying the same thing regardless. Again, guessing it's just related to where I'm at in the story.
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>>174514505
Oh there'll be tears anon. She's crying, he's crying, now you're crying.
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If i kms, will i be reborn as a cute shota android?
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>>174516610
BECOME AS GODS
BECOME AS GODS
BECOME AS GODS
WE WILL DIE AND BECOME AS GODS
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I still don't understand what the hell was that message on moon server about a prophet.
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>>174514505
>pods specifically placed them nearby for activation in ending E
They are really aiming for the biggest emotional impact possible, huh.
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>>174517282
Maybe the shadowlord?
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>>174517409
It tells about being released from the yoke of iron so i doubt it. It also sounds like 9S was the one saying it in first place.

Probably just some mindfuckery with one of the previous incarnations of 9S. This gives me Planescape vibes.
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Are the costumes part of the paid DLC or are they free? Do we have any info on this?
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>>174518327
You unlock them by playing the DLC, so they're clearly part of it.
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Where the Commander and A2 pics at?
2B and 9S everywhere shit tastes desu
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I feel like 2B's stockings would have a hard time staying up on their own. she should probably have a garter belt or something.
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>>174519753
uh
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>>174519841
I mean, I guess. But legs taper, and she moves around a lot. My knee wraps tend to slowly ride down over time and they're pretty tight.
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>>174517282
>>174517539
The picture books are all about the machines you encounter before or after they play. That prophet line is about the cult leader machine, "become as gods". Release from the yoke of iron means killing themselves. Look at the full scene in the intel:
https://youtu.be/7cGSLP43eY4?t=4m27s
Don't forget that 2B is in the factory with the cult machines while 9S is hacking into the server. 9S narrates all the picture books because he hacks into all the machines and sees their memories.
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>>174520313
it may have something to do with it being a a video game
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>>174520554
Tricky thing is 9S hears a part of the prophet one in a short audio clip while he's hacking into the YoRHa database, and then when it plays after that factory segment 9S actually acknowledges seeing the little story and saying it's the same as what he heard in the database.
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>9S actually tried to modify his own flight unit
cheeky
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Can you actually kill yourself with the pod's laser?
Because I was just standing in a cave and trying to aim my charged up laser and when I shot it the whole screen turned white and I died.

I'm level 72 and never had that happend to me.
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>>174500705
It was part of her speech and it indicated that she had been completely taken over by the virus.
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>>174520313
I'm not sure you should be using yourself as a base, since you're not a made-up robot from 10,000 years into the future.
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https://twitter.com/stalkeralker/status/846393434571104256
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>>174520893
That clip plays when 2B sends the back up request to the bunker right after the cult leader kills himself. The communications signal was unstable, so some of the leader's memories probably bled over the network connection.
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>>174520554
It's really disturbing that he saw all this shit and told 2B nothing.
>sees the vision about the God in Volcano in the desert already
>still friendly to 2B and acts like nothing happens
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>>174522457
No its not.
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>>174523354
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>>174522457
It's the same thing as the 2nd playthrough of the first Nier. You find out about the back stories of all the bosses because Kaine can understand the shade language while Nier cannot. She doesn't tell him or try to stop him from killing them either.
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A2 is all alone, while 2B and 9S fuck around.
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>>174524627
A2 is not alone because she has two younger siblings to take care of, Pod 042, Anemone and entire beautiful world around her.
There's a reason 042 placed her on that window. She will see the world she came to adore right before her sacrifice.
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>>174524729
Okay, I guess you're right.
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>>174519353
They really should've done more to explain A2 in game, no one knows shit about that stage play outside japan
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FOR THE KING AND OUR KINGDOM

YOUR ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN FOR THIS VERY MOMENT, DO NOT BE AFRAID
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>>174527195
they might end up translating it, considering how well the game sold out side of Japan.

Although I doubt it.
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>>174527885
Hopefully they just make a DLC about it
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So what happened to 4S and the Desert Yorha survivors in ending E? Did they kill themselves? Offed by machines? Does having their Blackbox offline necessarily mean they're dead? Or was it just overlooked?
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>>174528431
Machines "evolved" a lot on the ending. I guess they were killed on some rampage.
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>>174528026
I doubt it, I really only wish they had been clear about exactly what it is that makes different types of Yorha androids actually different from each other.

We never really see anything to show that they differ in anything other than role. Which makes 9S being the most "advanced" one kinda make me scratch my head.

>>174528431
I just assumed that the Pods had figured out a way to hide a blackbox. After all, they would need to be able to to cover the fact that they brought three Yorha members back from the dead.

Then again we never find out just who the hell is actually running this fucked up show on the android side.
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>>174528820
But how can they cover it up? The Resistance knows 9S and A2 are alive, unless they assume they died in the tower
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So I saved my game in the bunker last night.

Every time I load up the game, 2B clips through the floor and freefalls through space forever. Do I need to restart ? 25 hours in. PS4 version
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>>174529175
Try and trigger the self detonate ending, might fix it
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>>174529265
That's just going to make the Commander give you a stern look.
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>>174529108
well they show at the end that they are able to bypass the security on the system and you have to assume that they have access to the complete network to allow them to download the combat data.

It is not too far fetched for them to start feeding in false data to the system.
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>>174529265
Just tried it, got a game over, reloaded and the exact same thing happened. I'll put a video up in a minute. I've had this game for like 3 days
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>>174529587
You might be fucked then
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WAIT HOL UP WHAT

So if humans were already extinct when the aliens invaded then what was there to invade? You're telling me a handful of androids and Emil somehow caused a war with the aliens? What if those ayylmaos were peaceful and just wanted to establish a new life on an empty but habitable planet?

Not only did they anger and get absolutely rekt by Emil, their own machines turned on them. How do you fuck up this badly?
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>>174529787
It's looking that way. Copying the videos from my ps4 so I can upload them. 40 minutes for two 100mb videos lmao.

I just remembered that I didn't finish Nier due to some bullshit but also.
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>>174530248
bug*
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>>174530201
I assume the aliens had studied humans based off radio waves or something and had planned to take the Earth for [Insert reason here]. I say this because the machines seem to have a desire to kill humans, even though theyve never encountered one, likely preprogrammed by the aliens. In the end though, it doesn't really matter and they were just a plot device. Also I don't think its just a "handful' of androids, pretty sure there is quite a few of them across the globe, and in their satellite bases.
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>>174530201
they were like plants, simple minded, spreading around everywhere. they probably came to conquer and reproduce. like fungus. it doesn't invade your home out of malice, it's just how it lives.
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>>174530201
They are dicks.
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>>174530201
>What if those ayylmaos were peaceful and just wanted to establish a new life on an empty but habitable planet?
No, they were aggressive and attacked Emil first. Emil was just defending earth. Read the translation of the story that started the war:
http://nier2.com/blog/2015/12/13/nier-drama-cd-the-space-war/
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>>174530248
Do you not use multiple save files? The game gives you three slots for a reason, alternate between them to avoid this sort of thing.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/20/sinoalices-nier-automata-collaboration-brings-exclusive-scenario-music-2b-9s-a2-emil/
>The collaboration event brings in an exclusive special scenario written by Yoko Taro, and it features the Beauvoir boss from NieR: Automata’s Abandoned Amusement Park.
>In addition to featuring music from NieR: Automata, we’ll see some familiar faces from the action RPG in 2B, 9S, A2, and Emil. The collaboration will even bring in weapons from NieR: Automata as well as an original weapon story.
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Just watched that Nier meets amazarashi music video again. Never noticed this.

Let it be a warning to all you waifu fags out there.
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>>174531920
>DO NOT LOVE DOLLS
rate my setup
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>>174531920
>obvious Machine propaganda.

What's the second line say? "Care for infection of..." what?
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Anyone got the 2B hepy day image?
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>>174533667
I believe it's Logic Virus?
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>>174533691
Just saved it yesterday myself.
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>>174531920
Like 2B and 9S care about shitty propaganda.
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>>174533739
Thanks!
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I wish I could watch Lana Rain's Nier videos, but holy shit, are they pricey. It would be cool if people would pay $40 to see me jack off.
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>>174534210
She just has a shitty one i think.
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>>174534210
why pay for cosplay porn when you can look at drawn porn for free baka
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>>174533708
I think logic virus is too long. It looks like a 5- or 6-letter word and a 3-letter word. Maybe 'black box?'
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Am I the only one who wants to brutally fuck 2B while being aware of all the systems failures until she loses consciousness and is broken into pieces while she just has to accept her fate no matter what?
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>>174535979
>some dumb nerd thinks he can overpower a combat android
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>>174535979
You sick fuck.
2B is for healing and gentle hand holding.
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>>174506657
>slamming me on beds

Fug
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>>174535979
the pleb
>>174536285
and the patrician
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>>174536271
You don't understand. I meant that she would be programmed to accept her fate and 2b brutally fucked by me.
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>>174534210
Two of the videos you can find by following the lewds pastebin in the OP.

I haven't seen the footjob one anywhere, though.
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Why some statuettes in that room in the Tower are silver and other are gold?
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>>174537132
Why do they exist? I know about them in Nier 1, but was that ever explained?
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>>174537485
It's N2 becoming more human and building its own shrine to the fallen.
This place has A2's figure because she's an outside factor N2 wanted to remove.
And 2B has a special pedestal probably because they valued her greatly as a source of data.
One thing i can't understand is the colour. Networked/not networked?
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>>174535979
Not only would I, but a liberal interpretation of Jackass's Research implies she would enjoy a brutal fucking with lots of slapping and spanking.
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>>174537694
my best guess is the silver one are ones that you did not directly kill. Being killed in cut scenes.
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How are Parts 2 and 3 for the Sorting Trouble quest triggered? On my first playthrough I completed the first two parts as 9S and the last part as A2. And now on my second playthrough I completed just the first part as 2B but I'm not getting Part 2 now as 9S, so I don't get it.
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>>174531920
You know, in a world with possibly depleted resources, I wouldn't put it past the machines to take android corpses and recycle them for machine parts.
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>>174539179
2 and 3 are only on route C I think, looks that way from the wiki. I don't remember if the second one is done as 9S during C or if both are as A2.
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>>174540424
Weird, I was pretty sure I did part 2 on route B last time.
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>dem corpses

I actually tried looting them all then turned around at some point and realized they were respawning behind me, and just gave up.
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>>174536285
this nigga gets it
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>>174536285
She is for hugs, kisses and cute sex
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>>174542880
don't forget facesitting, sph and femdom
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What's the best way to farm exp now that hacking the bunny is apparently patched?
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>>174544143
>femdom
she's a really passive girl
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>>174544207
What is this bunny thing you are talking about?
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>>174544207
>hacking the bunny is patched
Are you fucking serious?
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>>174544273
This, she is cold ingame but believe me, she is calm and passive.
>>174544143
What the fuck is SPH? And facesitting is for degenerates
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>>174544207
Just attack the bunny normally. You don't need to hack it to start the fight. Wasn't patched as far as I know, some people were just having trouble targeting it with hack.
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>>174544273
>>174544663
I'm seriously disappointed in both of you
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>>174544809
So I will just attack the bunny until something happens?
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>>174544476
Not completely sure since I never played the unpatched game but apparently it gave a lot more exp, now it gives almost nothing

>>174544540

I didn't try yet but I read it searching how to farm exp

>>174544809

No I mean hacking during the fight used to give more experience. MIght be bullshit since I didn't try playing as 9s yet
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>>174544915
Yes, but to awake him you need to deal 10%ish of his health, so it might take a while at lower levels
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>>174544663
Small
Penis
Humiliation
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>>174544892
Hey no, I am not saying I dont like it, i am just saying that 2B is not for that, I cant see her dominating 9S....oh wait, I can, but i am sure they will take turns
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>>174544207
>game hasn't been patched
>somehow has been patched
hello???????
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>>174544892
She's a delicate and modest girl who probably reads romantic novels when nobody watches.
9S already dominated her at least once.
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>>174544915
Yeah just keep attacking it and it will eventually fight back. You need to deal a certain percentage of its health, but it is level 80 and your damage will be reduced if you are low level. Doesn't take too long at levels 50+ if you mash attack while holding shoot.

>>174545018
>No I mean hacking during the fight used to give more experience. MIght be bullshit since I didn't try playing as 9s yet
Never heard anything like this. Most of its exp is from killing it, and hacking it is the fastest way to do so. Equipping Exp chips to max limit (90% I think) and killing it usually gives about 4 levels per kill.
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>>174545338
I think the 1.04 or 1.05 patch was released a week or so ago that included a bunch of bug fixes.
Which is funny because I'm getting a lot of pop-in and frame rate drops now as opposed to at launch.
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>>174545365
lol I just laughed hard thinking about 2B reading romantics novels in her room, holy shit, i Can see her doing that
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>>174537694
Yeah but what about in Nier 1? Anyone have any idea?
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>>174545338
What is patch 1.04?
>>174545441
I'll just try it then, probably it was just someone on gamefaq being retarded
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>>174545628
It's just a trophy room. The ingame explanation is just Nier and Weiss talking.
>What's with this room? It's filled with things we've killed
>I have no idea. Maybe that Popola girl just has a strange hobby.
>Yeah, I'll just leave this be.
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>>174544273
Are there any dom characters in Automata? Only one I can really think of is A2 and Jackass, but you can tell that A2's aggressive demeanor is just a facade
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>>174495378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlmY6JVcYqA
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>>174545773
Yeah but the popola nier and weiss know wouldn't know about every thing they kill. I thought there'd be some story behind the room since popola's involved in project gestalt.
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>>174546190
Jackass is certainly dom as fuck.
She obviously had a history with Commander who is a hardass as well.
A2 is a crybaby on a killing spree.
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Should I just get used to being oneshot on hard mode or is there a way to survive this shit? I'm not that far in, only just past Beauvoir.
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>>174546201
in the first game it made sense since pretty much every boss is a Gestalt. So she knows that you are actually murdering humans. It is a shrine to the fallen.

In Automata it is there mostly because the Machines have access to information from that time so it would make sense that they would know about the room and the link of them being dead. maybe not actually knowing the context.
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>>174546314
If it's your first time just play on normal.
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it's over.
Nier Automata got cracked.
No more money for Taro
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But enemies are so boring on normal.
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9S is cute, CUTEEE
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>>174546473
nothing on predb
go away
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>>174546473
Really? Poor Taro....he doesnt deserve this, the only game I pirated this year was ME Andromeda just because I wanted to see how bad it is.
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>>174546518
Then either remove your chips for normal or use defense chips on hard. The enemies don't behave differently, they just hit harder.
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>>174546306
>Commander who is a hardass as well.
White is a sweet girl.
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>>174546306
I want to see Jackass sexually dominate hapless androids and jack them up really high on E-Drugs and turn them into sex and drug dependent robo-sluts.
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>>174547012
Even Jackass says that she's a downright stiff person despite being kind deep inside.
Which makes me sad that White has only a few interactions with 2B and 9S despite apparently being worried about them.
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Is there a way to delete your save without playing the danmaku again?
I just need to fish and get those rare enforced fuckers to 100% the game but there is no reward for doing that
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Jackass fans are the bottom of the barrel.
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>Day 12. The enemy still has not noticed that I am actually a mechanical horse.
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>>174547563
Enemy hijacking is one of the best things about entirety of Automata.
Wish it was possible to do outside of stealth. Maybe with special chips. Would add an entirely new layer of depth for 9S and it's not like he's not already broken to hell and back.
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(;_;)
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>>174547298
Say that to my face IRL and not online, fag.
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I dont understand something, where is 9S body when he hacks a machine? You cant see it anywhere
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>>174547891
he's probably doing the same teleportation shit Adam and Eve are capable of, though limited because he's not networked
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>>174544892
I really can't imagine 2B being dominant, not with that massive blindfold over her eyes, not with her aloof, melancholic and suppressed personality.
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>>174547732
Yeah. It's also really well done. Enemies have both walk and run cycles, are capable of jumping/dodging, as well as having several different attacks mapped to L1/R1/R2/square.

Interesting thing about the quadruped by the way. It is the only unit that actually tilts when traversing askew terrain.

My favourite has got to be hijacking one of those linked sphere types though. They actually move pretty fast and are pretty hard to destroy by other enemies due to their weakness location.
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>>174548348
Dark Souls 1 had a debug mode which allowed to do the same. You had almost full access to entire boss movesets. But you need to be a Taro-tier madman to introduce it as a gameplay mechanic that completely fits the narrative.
>tfw going to Adam's birthplace and causing robot wars
>tfw when robots jump out of sand they don't aggro for a moment so you can easily hijack them if one of them dies
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>>174524729
Her younger siblings?
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>>174547886
She's right tho, why fight and die for something that never did anything for them?
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>>174548542
Try going to the copied city in route C and hijacking the enhanced goliath biped that spawns amid all the small stubbies. Make sure to subjugate the other biped that spawns nearby.

It's hilarious.
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>>174548734
of course she's right
this monologue is actually a good indicator of that androids can say "fuck humanity" as long as they have someone they are attached to
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>>174534210
That girl has the grossest tit job I've ever seen.
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>>174548816
Yeah, i tried a lot of things.
This made me really appreciate 9S even from gameplay perspective.
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>>174548348
The linked sphere types are pretty strong when subjugated. I got one by accident once and was amused at its animations while it followed me around. Then I sent it to kill everything at the pit.
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>>174549256
Those things are impossible to control
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>>174549973
Huh, They're actually pretty easy.

I've done whole missions as a snake.
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>>174549973
You can body jump your way to them.
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>>174549898
I should try getting one at the crater and then subjugating another.

Together we can take on the world as sneks.
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>>174536329
What?
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Small butt.
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Here's something I recorded a while ago. I panicked a little because I didn't have weapons equipped since the other infected were easy. Then this monster appears and all my bullets and melee hits deal 0 damage to it.

Has anyone seen a corrupted body though? Apparently it only happens to your own body if you leave it on the ground for a long time before trying to repair it. Not really something that any player would intentionally do.
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>>174552635
holy shit this seems crazy, did the fucker have optimized defensive chip setup or something
if i was going for shit like this i would probably use crit 9S build
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>>174552635
You can actually fight android corpses that turn hostile? How did I not know about this?
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>>174547563
Not
>Will you ride me like you rode that boar?
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>>174552902
Not really sure what his deal was. Defense chips only reduce a percentage of damage received, and can't reduce it to 0 either. With the way damage scaling works in this game I suspect that guy might have cheated to be higher than level 99. Or maybe level 99 infected bodies are just crazy OP and I never encountered many.

>>174553110
Yeah, when repairing bodies to turn them into allies sometimes they will be randomly infected. I think they have to be left alone for a while though. After clearing out that entire room (about half were infected), when the network loaded more bodies none of the new ones were infected anymore. That OP guy respawned too but he wasn't infected again.
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>>174553743
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>>174531547
I restarted and already ran into another bug. I knew exactly where Pod C was in the desert so i rushed straight to get it. I picked it up but nothing happened. This game is broken as fuck.
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Someone post the nier + automata fishing comparison please.
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>>174554027
the nier + automata fishing comparison please.
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>>174554097
what
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>>174554328
I did what you asked. I posted "the nier + automata fishing comparison please."
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>>174548017
There's a picture that explains this but I don't have it.
Hopefully someone posts it.
>9S, what are you doing?
>hacking
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>>174554435
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>>174552148
Suitable for insertion.
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>>174553743
Man, after playing again I feel like I finally understand the slideshows talking about machines and their treasures.

To resolve the stagnation that occurred in the stalemated war against the androids due to their conflicting interpretation of their creators order, the machines needed to diversify their evolution. Now the way in which they did this was by giving each machine a "treasure" which they strive after above all else. Now this "treasure" is actually a concept. It can be basically everything. The units' own beauty, family, a reason to exist, speed, hatred, their older brother, etc etc. For basically every machine character in the series there's one core characteristic defining them.

But this is where it stops. Each machine is incapable of evolving past its originally assigned concept. When 9S is knocked out after the fight against Grün and he reads the machines data he discovers this. When a machine forms a dictatorship and it fails, it will just try it again. It will not form another form of government. If a machine plants crops and they die, it will just replant them. Evolution of a single machine unit is impossible. They have a set goal from the start and will always work towards it.

So the only way they actually will evolve is on a network level. The whole machine network is essentially a competition between the different concepts to see which concept is more successful. The unsuccessful ones die out in the war, the successful ones live on. This way, the network eventually wants to arrive at a concept that can win over it's original concept of defeating the enemy.
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>>174554432
are we on /v/
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>>174555020
Yes
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>>174554997
>Each machine is incapable of evolving past its originally assigned concept
However, they have incredible evolution speed when it comes to combat.
Which means their non-combat evolution was most likely hindered by N2 itself.
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>>174554027
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>>174521693
Shouldn't that cat grin be on 9S instead of 2B?
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>>174555804
thanks
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>>174556202
That's how you show your gratitude? Just a simple thanks? You could at least post a cute image you ingrate
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>>174557627
Wow you can just ask nicely too you know.
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Can someone translate this ?
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>>174557627
For the record, this isn't me, the guy who actually posed the fishing picture and I was fine with the simple "thanks."
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>>174559302
You're a good person.
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>>174558515
>chinese
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We need a ban on posting 2B and 9S as a couple. This shit is just too depressing
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>>174560106
Why? They are a happy couple now
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>>174546190
Why did 2B seem hostile toward Jackass when she installed the access point in the cave? She literally did nothing wrong. Their only prior interaction was the desert when she cleared a path for them.
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>>174560106
They got probably the happiest ending possible in taroverse and will probably be excluded from being explicitly mentioned in future titles like post-E Nier and Kaine in original Nier.
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>>174560271
Are you talking about Amnesia quest? Because 2B was in a fit of jealousness during the entire thing.
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Replaying the game changes tone in so many places.
>photography quest
>android goes on about how the life without his loved one is pointless
>2B who keeps quiet during majority of quests asks 9S to move on because this theme most likely scares her
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alright, so I just finished Ending B
wtf was going on with the holograms of the 2 girls standing on each side while 2B strangles 9S
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>>174561734
keep playing
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>>174561734
LEAVE
KEEP PLAYING
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>>174561734
AWAY
AWAY
keep playing faget
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>>174561880
>>174561883
>>174561884
alright I'm leaving immediately
didnt see any spoilers
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>>174560656
Well, it's more like one should hope they don't show up in a future game if Automata is any indication, since they'll have depressing side quests and have sad deaths like Emil and the twins.

If the Emil weapon head story is any indication, 2B (or A2) are likely going to be fighting till the day they die, what with the machine network being rebuilt and all, kickstarting a new war.
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>>174562534
>If the Emil weapon head story is any indication, 2B (or A2) are likely going to be fighting till the day they die, what with the machine network being rebuilt and all, kickstarting a new war.
I like how Emil's heads get so many edgelord headcanons despite being absolutely open for interpretation.
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>>174562534
Why? After she'll find out from 9S that everything was a lie they can just find a new purpose.
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>>174562826
>I like how [any vague aspect of Drakengard lore] get so many edgelord headcanons despite being absolutely open for interpretation
Gotta love Yoko Taro.
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>>174562921
They already have a purpose and that purpose is to be with each other.
Love between androids is stronger than anything. It's reinforced through multiple side quests as androids losing their pair become bonkers. Hell it's reinforced back in original Nier.

One of the androids in the bunker even states that she doesn't want to die for humans she never saw and just wants to live with her friends.
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>>174562978
That's funny because even Taro considers E ending of Automata a happy ending.
And he can't easily take it back without sabotaging the entire underlying message of that thing.
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>>174563115
That's what I meant. Also the network became good and went to space. Where's that le ebil machines will return and endless war ensues idea coming from.
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My emotional pallet has been cleansed and my copy of Nier 1 has been delivered.

Time to crush my soul again.
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>>174563382
The Emil weapon head story mentions the machines left on earth built a new network and started another war with the androids. Emil mentions seeing an android he swears he saw before with a complicated look on her face, but can't remember her name.
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>>174563382
Network gets kistarted 400 years later but we don't know its intent or who started it all over again. For all we know it may be a unified government of androids and machines to pursue peaceful goals.
As i said, Emil's heads are absolutely open for interpretation.
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>>174563523
Why is emil ruining everything??
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>>174563229
He did consider the original Nier to have a happy ending as well, and look where that went. Emil got a pretty happy ending all things considered in that game, what with not dying horribly when he thought he was going to.

Still didn't stop Taro from shitting on the poor bastard in this game though.
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>>174563523

[09/02/12422] I confirmed that the machine lifeforms released by the aliens have reconstructed their network. I've started to see units with gravity-controlling capabilities again as well.


Level 2
[10/15/12422] I was spawned about a week ago, so I don't have clear recollections of anything before that. Say, I wonder where the Original disappeared to all those millennia ago...


Level 3
[12/14/12422] I confirmed that the 25th one born after me has stopped his biological activity. Although we're technically immortal - since we can respawn indefinitely and all - we're still not exempt from death.


Level 4
[01/19/12423] Our memories are only copies, so they're pretty vague. That android wearing black... I have the feeling I've met her before. She had a complicated look on her face, but I can't remember anything...

The only thing that is true is that the machine network reformed and that 2B or A2 is still alive. Everything else is left open to intrepretation
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>>174563868
>He did consider the original Nier to have a happy ending as well, and look where that went.
Eeeh.. It went to grimoire nier's ending E which is fairly happy for Yonah, Kaine and Nier at the very least?

Emil just lived for far too fucking long.
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>>174563885
Fuck the doomsayers.
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>>174563885
thats almost 500 years after everything on yorha

well its 400 years to prepare i guess.

>emil, after losing all hope and friends, lose his consciousness
no good deed unpunished.
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>21O will never get to be a loving mother figure for 9S
>6O will never get to see the flowers on Earth with her own eyes and maybe make a flower garden for herself
ending E is certainly happy for main cast but fuck me the rest of YoRHa were just a bunch of 3 years old children who could all probably evolve and find their place in the world
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>>174563885
>That android wearing black... I have the feeling I've met her before. She had a complicated look on her face
She's just worried because she's pregnant.
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>>174560257
Why? Because I'm going to die a virgin and images of happy couples makes me want to kill myself
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I bet 2B sings 9S to sleep every night post E.
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>>174563986
I'm actually curious how long androids can live in the Nier universe. The Devola and Popola models we met in the game appeared to be in charge of one of the other regions that weren't seen in the original Nier, so it seems like they can live for a very long time. At least a few hundred years according to the lore piece about Rose.
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>>174564489
or because she sees another clone of Emil still suffering all those years later
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>>174564530
More like she milks him dry to sleep.

oh baby
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>>174564531
If Devola and Popola who went through a fucking hell of a life managed to live for thousands of years nothing stops most androids from living for indefinite amount of time too provided they get maintenance.
Hell some androids claim to witness humans back in days.

Anemone looks perfectly fine for 200 years old too.
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>>174546473
Proof?

I saw jack in my searches.
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>>174558515
if you ask nicely
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>>174564530
What type of song would she sing to lull him to sleep while he rests his weary head on her warm and soft lap with her hand gently stroking his hair and occasionally brushing his cheek?

I'd like it to be something like this
https://youtu.be/w45JNgQgijc
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>>174565336

Song of the Ancients
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>>174565336
I can't YouTube right now so I don't know what you posted but I was going to reply with >>174565476
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>>174564531
Androids are designed to live pretty much forever as long as they don't get physically damaged. Grimoire Nier says:
>"Androids", which can operate indefinitely, are placed at various points around the world as overseers of the Replicant System.
It also says Devola & Popola from the first game lived for about 1300 years (from being created by humans to getting killed).
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>>174542023
Yeah why the fuck is everyone dying there?
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>>174544207
Are you casual? Just play the game. You get enough XP as is.
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>>174567069
Emil boss fight.
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>>174565192
;-;
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>>174568070
pod: Rising internal temperature in unit 9S detected. Suggestion: Reboot.
9S: Erm.. 2B.. whoa.. )%(#* face.. your face is too close~~~~ ? %)(*#%~~~
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>>174569886
Thank you!
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>>174563885
>Machine network reforms
>absorbs all the android blackboxes
>use them to resurrect all the dead androids and cleanse them of logic virus
>21O gets to adopt 9S
>6O's blackbox and White's whatever softland in the desert, and Jackass finds them wandering in it after their resurrection
>DevPop move into Pascal's village too, where no one holds their model against them and they teach the robot kids their song
>A2 is outwardly cold but sure seems to spend a lot of time hanging around Pascal 2's village making sure nothing harms them
>2B, 9S, and 6Olike to visit for tea parties
>A2 always scoffs at them but always seems to be in the village those days
>And one day, a makeshift raft washes up on the coast, and No4 steps off, walking towards the village with a mischievous smile on her face
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>>174571369
But White and DevPop don't have black boxes.
Sorry to rain on your parade.
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>>174571369
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>>174571369
>No4 steps off, walking towards the village with a mischievous smile on her face
I want that to happen. ;_;
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>>174571681
Yeah, better alternative would probably be memory storage in an object like 2B, a riding crop for White and a matched pair of Type 3 swords for DevPop.
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So after beating Nier and Nier Automata, I'm looking to try out Drakengard 3 since it came out after Nier and seems more polished and I'm interested in the story of Zero, also because apparently there are some nods to it in Automata that I want to understand so I figured this would be a good excuse to try it out.
Would you guys recommend Drakengard 3?
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Which letter ending has him going to a quiet place and fapping for the rest of time?
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>>174572059
Yes. It has a completely different tone from Taro's other games.
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>>174572227
What the fuck was that
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>>174572315
Zero's dragon taking a piss.
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>>174572452
And this was an ingame cutscene?
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>>174572315
That's the best boi taking a pee out of fear.
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>>174572551
Yup.
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>>174572832
Seems more like something Kojima would do. Regardless I'm gonna give DoD3 a shot. I gotta free up space on the PS3 though so first on the chopping block is Siren Blood Curse. Good fucking riddance
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>>174572003
>riding crop
Oh boy. I wonder what she does with that thing
I bet the tight leather outfits that the operators wear were her idea.
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>>174572832
>>174572908
OOOOHHHH this game was developed by the same people that developed Swery's games. That explains a lot
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>>174572003
i wonder if that'd even be possible for them though. doesn't one of the weapon stories suggest the weapons have machine cores built into them?

if that's the case, i could see the yorha androids transfer their memories to those since they're both machine lifeform related, but an unrelated android like white or 9+ thousand year old ones like dev+pop likely wouldn't be compatible.
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Hey guys, can anyone elaborate on A2 and Jackass' relationship?

It's apparent they know one another but I can't track down where from.
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>>174572908
Yeah, the tone is very different, but I enjoyed it. I loved Accord.
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>taunt mechanic is only available for a small portion of the game
Also why the fuck was the village completely deserted when I went there with 9S? I'm pretty sure that shut-in kid was there but the door wasn't hackable. You couldn't miss any parts depending on who you picked when, right?
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>>174572996
I mean, I can tell you what my guess is, but it should be pretty obvious once I say I wrote the White x Jackass thing on Ao3.

>>174573116
Technically it never says machine cores, just cores, though that does seem to be the implication. However, a different 4O weapon definitely says they're straight out magical, which might smooth out any technical issues.
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>>174572832
Is that a girl or a boy that looks like Iris?
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>>174573376
Pascal's village is deserted when you play as 9S because 9S techncially wakes up a week or two after a lot of shit A2 does and because A2 witnesses Pascal's village go up in flames and most of its inhabitants dying
Taunt is technically available for other characters by flickering the flashlight at your quarry
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>>174544663
>What the fuck is SPH?
small penis humiliation. it goes hand in hand with femdom, because only people with the nonexistent self esteem that stems from having small penises would ever think femdom and similar cuckery was hot.
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>>174573576
That's Dito. He's a "shota".
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>>174573234
who is this fucking harlot and what is she doing in nier
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>>174574153
Running the weapon shop, apparently.

Probably more than just running the weapon shop.
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>>174573541
I want White to berate me while my pelvis gets crushed under the weight of her ass.
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>>174573541
>I wrote the White x Jackass thing on Ao3.
Write more JackWhite!
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>>174574465
You don't have to carry the weight of the world alone.
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>>174574592
I was actually thinking of doing a DevPop thing next, but I'd need to go through the game again to get a better grip on them.
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I wonder how many of the yorha girls want to fuck 9S

And by fuck I mean dominate into their adorable mindless fucktoy, but cutely and lovingly.

Tbh he's the most sexable character in the series.
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So, can someone help me understand the later end of the game better?

Can anyone explain to me what exactly the little girl in the tower was all about? Who are they exactly and what did they have to do with all of this? What's their ultimate goal?
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>>174575178
That's fine too. Make them cuddle and kiss.
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>>174575412
The red girls were from the stage play. They're called Term Alpha/Beta (N2). They fucked/bullied with A2, while killing her crew and lover. They are the machine network and wanted to study shit. They found the best android to fuck with next and that was 9S.
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>>174575412
They are the "physical" manifestation of the machine network.
>>174575613
That's gross. They're sisters.
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>>174575906
>That's gross. They're sisters.
Doesn't bother me.
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>>174575865
God damn I can't help but feel I'm missing way too much crucial shit from not watching the stageplay, but I can't bear to sit through it.
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>>174575613
That was the plan. Just need to figure out whether it's true that one of them was into one night stands back in the first Nier, which unfortunately I never played, then listen to some dialogue so I can get their voices right.
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>>174576113
Just read it anon
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Daddy Nier or Anime Nier? Which Nier is best Nier, and why is that Nier better than the other Nier?
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>>174575865
Was this play actually popular or was it a flop? It just seems kind of weird that a video game play is even a thing.
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>>174576269
Videogame stage plays are honestly way more common then you'd think, in Japan at least. I mean, they have a stageplay of Resident Evil of all things.
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>>174576020
>aggressive 2B
I thought japan hated it when girls took the lead.
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>>174576269
It was popular with Taro fans. There might've be idol fans of the girls that played the main cast. The place looks packed.
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>>174576020
>Couple posting
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>>174576394
2B doesn't count. Japanese girls love drawing her dominate.
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>>174576115
>voices
Just what are you making?
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>>174576394
It's not the traditional ideal of feminine behavior, but lots of people in Japan do not have traditional tastes, if you haven't noticed.
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>>174576772
Yeah, that was probably the wrong term. By voices I meant their tone when speaking, how they refer to each other, levels of formality, that sort of stuff.
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>>174576757
>daddy 9S
I can get behind this
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>>174575083
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>>174576115
>whether it's true that one of them was into one night stands back in the first Nier,
I played the game and I don't remember this.
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>>174576261
Papa Nier has less nuance than Bishie Nier, but I like the angle of grizzled older protag looking out for his daughter over yet another Japanese game with a twink angsty teenager protag .
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>>174576115
>>174577096
Nier tells Weiss that Popola becomes violent when drunk and Devola becomes "too friendly".
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>>174576261
Can anyone explain to me the differences between Dad Nier and Brother Nier? Other then the obvious appearance change and relation to Yonah. Never played the version with Brother Nier nor will I ever most likely.

Are they any different character and personality wise?
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I can't be the only one who grew to dislike 9S by the end, right? Everyone here seems to like him. Choosing between him and A2 at the end was the easiest decision ever. Granted, I had to play his side eventually but that initial playthrough was a no-brainer.
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>>174577559
Brother Nier is a prostitute. Everyone wants his asshole.
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>>174577752
I'm actually not a huge fan of him either. Probably why I have yet to write any 2Bx9S
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>>174577559
Bishie Nier had a love/hate thing with Yonah. He loved her but at the same time resented that he was obligated to devote his life to taking care of her. It was kind of like a James Sunderland thing but without the sexual frustration. Papa Nier was just a typical dad who'd do anything for his daughter.
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>>174577876
I actually didn't mind him at first, much to my surprise, and was growing to like him before he became a whiny edgelord and ruined everything.
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>>174524627
>>174524729

RETURN TO ASH
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>>174578060
Yeah, that's fair, it's mostly late game 9S that made me dislike him.
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>>174577876
>>174578060
>>174578190
>talking shit about my boy 9S
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>>174578125
I want that update so bad.
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>>174530201
I wondered the same thing too. What is there on this blasted ruined world worth harvesting? Thicc Dictionaries?

Part of me wants to believe the aliens were humans who after thousands of years evolved into horrible squid dick people.
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>>174576020
You must not have any siblings.
Seriously, I think that would ruin the type of love they share.
Their love is too pure for any degree of lewd.

I was just banned for a post I didn't make. What the fuck?
>>156138051
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>wakes up to this
>still obsesses over 2B
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>>174563492
Be a good dad/bro.
Doom humanity.
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>>174572079
C, but he ends up shorthanded.
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>>174577806
>Androids try to muscle march
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2iHp37iyZQ
Don't worry. It was hard for me too.
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>>174580778
>>174576737
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>>174580817
Have more!
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POST A2
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>>174580942
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HEY NIERGEN I DID A THING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpMdghq3Gkw&feature=youtu.be
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>>174580942
I'll be dumping some of my folder
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>>174581137
Needs a nosejob
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>>174579485
Dad it is.
I was interested in Replicant but I don't want to hack my ps3.
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>>174581335
She's cute the way she is.
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>>174581301
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>>174581190
K
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>>174581497
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>>174581656
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>>174581857
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>>174552635
You sure that was 0 damage and not 0 healing?
Assuming you had the heal-on-attack chip installed.
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>>174581513
Thanks!
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>>174582040
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>>174582186
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plz...
need
checkpoint

before

Engels...

25 minutes of killing stubbies not okay.
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>>174549207
I know the internet likes to go on about how every boob job is the worst hack job ever, but honestly hers are really bad... She was actually pretty hot in some of her older videos, but I can't stand her as a person, and now she's just too ratchet.
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>>174582335
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>>174520554
Can someone explain parenticide to me? That's the only one I didn't get what it was referencing.
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>>174582698
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>>174582040
Oh damn. Please tell me that's going in the next zip.
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>>174579169
Devola was downgraded so hard in this game. Dat Popola tho.
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>>174582072
Healing numbers appear over your character though, as shown when auto heal starts after I got hit there. Damage numbers appear over the enemy and you can see tons of 0s when I was shooting it. The melee 0s are there too but harder to see. I don't think I had offensive heal equipped as I didn't use them often either. Don't think I've seen a 0 heal.
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>>174582537
How many hours has it been?
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>>174582880
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>>174583182
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>>174583141
Oh, thanks.
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>>174583427
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>>174578125
>>174578763
I'm working on it, I'm sorry! I have been busy. It will be done this weekend.
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>>174583167
13.5

I'm getting better at Engels, it's more that I've started to get careless trying to get through the regular mobs and get killed by them and restart for no good reason.
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>>174584116
Oh damn.
I'm so sorry.
I'm starting to regret encouraging you, that's almost twice the time it took me.
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>>174583652
I love your story so much, but I feel as if A2 needs more expanding upon if you bring her back. She seemed like she was in so much pain.
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>>174577752
He becomes a fuck-up by the end with red eye so not sure why anyone would side with him, but he's an interesting character nonetheless.
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>Finally get to play as A2
>She cuts her fucking hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOWRVyq9USg
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I'm in a strange place.
It appears to be a large hall, decorated in gold and marble.
2B's arms are on my shoulders.
My hands are on her hips.
Ancient music fills the air and we sway in time to the rhythm.
I'm wearing a white shirt with a jacket over it, matching pants and a bow tie.
2B is wearing a black dress.
This is different to her usual dress. It's long and slim. It wraps tightly around her body, exposing all of her curves.
Her lips are blood red. I am infatuated by them.
I feel a pounding in my chest. Is this a heartbeat?
Her lips call to me. I could stare at them for ever.
The pounding increases in frequency.
Who knew that such a small detail could be so... arousing.
She leans toward me with half closed eyes, parting her lips slightly.
My chest feels like it's going to burst.
I lean in.
The moment we make contact, I wake up.
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>>174584851
I thought I was the only one.
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>>174584851
Long hair is objectively superior but I feel the short hair suits her character model's face better.
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>>174584901
More.
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>>174584901
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>>174585053
>>174585063
And here I was thinking my writing sucked.

You want more?
It was all a dream.
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>>174585140
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>>174584634
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How is it that 9S can choose to merge with the machines and fly away with them (or whatever) but then also be revived by the pods later, isn't that a contradiction?
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>>174585359
It's like a copy of his memories going off to a new plane, not his original.
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>>174585359
Their minds aren't an individual thing, the pods just took his memories, outside of his consciousness that left for spess
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>>174585140
Seriously though, that's all I have on the subject.
I saved that kiss story another anon posted a few days ago if you want me to post it.
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>>174585140
Your writing does suck fuck off.
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>>174585826
Thanks. I was looking for actual feedback.
Anything you would suggest to improve it?
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>>174585419
This I can get on board with, even though I don't recall that being said.

>>174585648
This I don't really like, if the real 9S is gone and the revived one is just some sort of copy then it doesn't really even seem like much of a happy ending.
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>>174585359
The whole "come with us" scene at the end of route D isn't really happening. 9S is hallucinating as he's bleeding out. He doesn't really go anywhere.
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>>174585904
Not that anon, but I don't see anything wrong with it. If I had to look really hard and nitpick, I say some of the lines could be put on the same line, but I'm no writer.
There are anons in here who hate fanfics in general, in case you aren't aware.
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>>174585971
What is "real"?
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>>174586221
I agree with the lines thing.
I copied it from notepad.
I use short lines in that because long lines are a pain in the ass to read.
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I want to kiss A2 and show her the world!
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>>174586314
Originals and copies aren't the same. If someone killed you and replaced you with an exact clone you'd never even know it because you'd be dead.
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>>174586613
Yes, and?
The copy would be capable of thinking for itself, just because it's not the original doesn't mean it isn't real.
That copied 9S would have the memories, would literally be the same guy up until the whole y'know, stabby-stab.
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>>174587026
That's not even to mention that the 9S that left was losing himself, he probably wouldn't be anything like what he was.
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>>174587026

>The copy would be capable of thinking for itself, just because it's not the original doesn't mean it isn't real.

This is a moot point, of course a clone would be alive, that's not the issue. The issue is that the original person died. You really don't understand how that's a loss? When people die you experience grief, you don't just replace them with clones and say oh well all good.

>would literally be the same guy

No, it would literally be a different guy with copied memories.
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>>174586072
i prefer this explanation, am i the only one that thinks the leave ending is literally the spookiest worst ending there is???? yeah sure id love to hurtle through space FOR FOREVER with a psychopath robot ai machine that changes flips and flops from murder to peace on a whim that sounds LIEKA FUCKING HEAVEN TO ME my big bum gf isnt even there what teh fuck
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>>174584226
So, unless people would consider it cheating. I realized you can skip to the fight using chapter select. So I think I'm going to practice it a bit on my first save file.
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>A2fags actually think dirty, wrinkled and busted trash android is best girl
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>>174587553
A person is their experiences, the copied 9S would have quite literally everything that the 9S that left would.
You're drawing a line, 9S never died, he just moved on while the pods did as they always do and used a back up.
The 2B at the end would be a copy, the A2 as well, where's the line senpai?
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>>174587720
It would be fun to fix her up.
Sort of like a project car.
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>>174587757
The line is death anon. When you die, you're dead. Copying you doesn't fix death. If someone made a copy of you right now with all of your experiences it wouldn't be you, because you would still be you. You will still be yourself and the copy would be themselves, two individuals. The fact that they share memories doesn't really matter.

By your reasoning I should just be able to kill either one of these people and it wouldn't really matter, but that's absurd, of course it matters if you kill an individual person because it ends their life. People generally don't like the idea of having their lives ended.
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>>174587757
>>174588381
im glad nobody's brought up what happens when you use the transporter, because that almost certainly kills 'you' and activates a new copy with your latest memories instal- OH FUCK THERE GOES THE THREAD
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>>174588563
That's not too weird. What's weirder is the fact that your new body has your old chips, which directly contradicts the rules behind why you lose your chips when you die: they're in your corpse.

(Yes, it's a videogame contrivance, I'm aware. But they came up with two in-universe explanations for fast travel and respawning and they both contradict each other.)
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>>174588563
Realistically it would probably be killing them yeah, but I think it's supposed to just be understood as kind of sci-fi like gits where ghosts are 'detachable' from bodies, or like battlestar where consciousness can be stored on servers. I mean the game is clearly not meant to be hyper realistic, the original had magic and shit, not to mention souls being separated from bodies.
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>>174588849
Not necessarily. It could function like a teleport, in where your destroyed and copied (though based on how the rest of the game is the copy seems more likely). That could cause your chips to be destroyed, and recreated exactly as they were. But you still kinda get the while "you probably die and get replaced" issue.
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>>174589030
But that's not the case, senpai. 9S explains that they transfer the consciousness, specifically, to a "temporary" body.
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>>174588849
I've never understood how that thin black strip is supposed to cover her nipples, I've never seen nipples small enough that would be completely hidden by that.
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REVENGE FOR OUR K-K-K-KING
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>>174589490
Well, that's fan art. In the game it seems more plausible that you wouldn't see her nips. They'd still be fairly small areolae, but not impossibly small.
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>>174589365
Well he says their consciousness itself is being transported, which just means their actual consciousness can just be moved between bodies somehow. Personally I think that would be impossible in reality, but it's not reality it's sci-fi with magical and supernatural elements. The thing that still doesn't make sense though is how you fast travel between transporters, do they just have spare 2B and 9S bodies in each one?
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>>174589490
Mens nipples aren't usually that big.
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>>174589815
Yeah, that's what an Operator actually tells you. It seems weird, since I remember another Operator specifically saying those android bodies aren't cheap to make, but I can't find that quote right now.
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>>174589734
So does she have a vag and a penor then? I'd assume she must right, else no one would have known anything was different about her as a kid.
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>>174589941
Not sure about vagina and penis, but penis for sure.
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>>174589939
Huh, that just seems kind of bizarre, but I guess they had to justify the fast travel somehow.
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>>174590051
Yup, probably shouldn't read too much into it since, like I said, it's mainly a gameplay contrivance, I just noticed that the way they explain it clashes with how they explain respawning after death.
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I wanna fuck Pascal
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What exactly happens when you tell Pascal you won't erase his memories?

Are there any other non-impactful decisions in the game like this? I fucked around with most of the choices but I didn't do it with this.
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>>174577752
Of course you aren't the only one. I chose A2 for the final battle in a heartbeat.

I viewed 9S as flawed (little racist know-it-all) but didn't expect him to go off the deep end, so it was kinda fun despite how unpleasant it was.
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>>174571369
Excuse you, I'm pretty sure 6O and 2B become a happy couple. They got along so well after all, and 2B even sent 6O pictures of a pretty flower.
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>>174592147
>racist
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>Spending hours fishing in a sewer to get some meme weapon
Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>174592524
I got the pipe in like 10 minutes maximum. The beetle fish took me over 4 hours though.
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>>174592524
Took me 3 swings. How did make u feel white boi
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>>174592524
>hours

Sure thing.
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>>174577752
by the end of the game he has gone of the deep end. However you see how he goes from being hopeful and upbeat to what he becomes. If he started out how he is at the very end then I doubt anyone would like him.


It is still obvious that he needs to be put down but it is more tragic than anything else. Kind of similiar to the the death of Kenny in Waking Dead Season 2
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>By the way, can I call you Nines?
>Sure. Nobody calls me that anymore though.
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>>174592798
>Oh... Nines...
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>>174592601

>Killing boatmaster extreme
>2015
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>>174592896
>he hates the nickname because it reminds him
Fuck.
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>Virtuous Contract's story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHA1qxsLH-0
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>>174593063
rabid dogs get put down
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>>174577752
Yeah 9S really started to piss me off later on in the game.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/nier-automata-director-wants-to-remake-the-original-but-needs-to-get-paid-first/
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>>174594000
Can we just mail him all our money?
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What's a good chapter select to use for changing Emil's routes?
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>>174594076
his not getting paid yet prob has something to do with Square trying to pull some Hollywood Accounting bullshit on them.

Which seems really fucking short sighted.
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>Eve wants to "play"
>Goliaths attack the city
>Eve wants to "play" again
>Grun awakens
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>>174594129
Answered my own question, apparently 7-1 works just fine.
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Anyone have that image of this cosplayer with and without the beauty mark and Drake hating on the one without whilst digging the one with the mark?
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>disliking character progression because it's "edgy"
Plebs should leave immediately. You fags would get triggered at merely watching a let's play of drakengard 1
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>>174594875
9S is not edgy anyway.
It fucking hurts him to do what he does in the resource units and Tower.
The only thing he does wrong is hating A2.
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>>174594953
Edgy is the go to word for "I don't understand emotions and someone being rightfully angry is edgy!"
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Really though, what sounds would she make during this?
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>>174595178
>you will never hear the moans of Yui Ishikawa
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>>174595141
I do love this meme of angry = edgy. I too hate angsty characters who like brooding for no reason but now you have to be joking and throwing quips all the time.

>>174595178
Short hmph while autistically panicking internally
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>>174594819
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>>174594000
As much as Nier is loved, I think it's too overrated. The music and story are the only parts that are great. Everything else borders on barely acceptable to downright terrible. The character interactions are great as well, but are somewhat ruined by the tedious fetch quests.
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>>174595329
Exactly - Kylo Ren is edgy, 9S is righteously angry.
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>>174594000
I'd rather see a proper Automata sequel than a remake
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2B panicking in prologue hit me way harder during second playthrough. She's nearly fucking hysterical and even gets angry at 042, jesus.
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I don't even really think what's commonly derided as "edgy" is always bad. Raiden leaned into some edginess in Metal Gear Rising with his "It's time for Jack to let 'er rip!" lines and whatnot, but it was still fun to see. Devil May Cry also carried that aesthetic with it considering it's a massive power fantasy accompanied with lyrics like this:

>My army comes from deep within
>Beneath my soul, beneath my skin
>As you are ending, I'm about to begin,
>My strength is pain, and I will never give in.

But those games were still awesome. So, to me, regardless of whether or not 9S can be classified as "edgy", that alone doesn't really say much because there have been great and terrible examples of "edgy" despite it being commonly used as an insult.
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>>174595596
>Devil May Cry also carried that aesthetic with it considering it's a massive power fantasy accompanied with lyrics like this
>FUCK YOU!
Ah, yes, I see what you mean.
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>>174595395
i don't see how it is "overrated" when the consensus is "Good story let down by lacklustre combat".

Hence why I think it would be worthwhile for them to remake it since the problems it had are things that could be fixed in a remake. Of course it would depend how deep they wanted to go with a overhaul. Taking a leaf from the second game and replacing the fetch quests with something more meaty would be great along with overhauling the combat system.

Although I found the combat to be kind soothing, I never really got why people hated it so much. It worked pretty well and the boss fights where a lot of fun.
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>>174595659
The displeasure of being cummed inside.
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>>174595650
>DmC
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>>174595329
What about the dick's sounds?
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>>174595693

https://a.pomf.cat/omkmvv.mp4
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>>174595596
Something being "Edgy" is supposed to mean it is something like Shadow The Hedgehog. The kind of defining feature is really that the character talks constantly about how sad they are and how life is pain and NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!

Of course retards have forced it to mean anytime a character feels a emotion of any kind. Hence people calling 9S Edgy when he losses everything and everyone he cares about and believes in, causing him to go. Understandably, kinda fucking nuts.
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>>174595178
I don't like the full image of that since it's actual futa. As in, with a vagina not even including balls and what good is that? At least have the balls and the vagina underneath them or something.
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>>174595658
People play up the gameplay as not being that bad. When in reality is barely passable, especially as a ps3 game. The movements are clunky and slow, the sidequests are terrible fetch quests, and the drop rates can go eat dick. In general while the story, characters and music are absolutely great, so much of it is ruined by the gameplay.
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>>174594875
Shut the fuck up the only reason fangirls keep fawning over 9S after ending c+d is because he's their precious shota.
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>>174596126
You're a fucking loser if you can't understand emotions. Neck yourself you incomplete human being.
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>>174596126
All i can see is waifufags getting annihilated when a guy ended up being the most interesting member of central cast and canon object of 2B's affections.
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>>174596182
His emotions were all fine up until the later parts of the tower.
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>>174596318
>angery = interesting

simple mind
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>>174596362
???
the late tower is even more justifiable because of everything he learns after entering the tower
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>>174596439
>if I boil down something to stupid levels it's stupid! im so smart :)
embarrassing desu
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>>174596527
>if I post reaction images I win
lmao
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>>174595809
I'm not a native speaker so pardon me if I get things wrong, but I kind of got the impression that it's mainly used to refer to things that pander to teenage angst, at least in recent years. Besides the obvious relation to "being on edge", Merriam-Webster includes "tension" in its definition and, while not 100% identical to teenage angst, it's close enough to fall under the umbrella of words and their meanings changing over time.

Going by that, I can see how it would apply to things like now-infamous Linkin Park lyrics and some aspects of Devil May Cry. Though not as much for 9S.
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>>174596591
Make an argument or admit you didn't understand 9S's character progression.
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>>174596667
Devil May Cry (the actual series) plays on it's "edginess" to its strength though as it doesn't take the concept and have Dante be a brooding faggot who's perpetually angry at nothing.
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>>174596439
>>174596527
>>174596591
>>174596681
Quit being petty shits, you fucks.
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>>174575317
Every Girl on Yorha including the commander wants to fuck 9S, look at him how could one resist?
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>>174596742
Well, yes. That was my original point: I enjoyed the "edgy" parts of mainline DMC. >>174595596
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>>174580931
That 9S, HHHHHNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHH
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>>174592461
His whole "machines are inferior. they don't have feelings; they're just emulating" and the way he was pretty much laughing at them.
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2b would be the same height as 9s without her heels on. Shotafags are annoying.
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>>174597153
They are both 3 years old and without blindfold 2B looks fairly young as well.
I think people are just confused with her god-tier butt and massive blindfold covering most of her face.
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>>174597218
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>>174597149
Apparently you missed the point. He says things like that to support 2b and prevent her from being discouraged, not out of any "racism" towards machines dummy.
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>>174597149
It's his personal mantra to keep existential dread away, similar to 2B's "emotions are prohibited".
He gets visibly terrified from what he sees in minds of machines and tries to reassure himself and 2B that they are doing right thing.
Imagine if he actually told 2B everything he saw. She already has a deep depression just because of him, last thing she needs is to understand that they are killing sentient lifeforms who can feel emotions.
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>>174597312
Not so sure about that. He maintains that attitude past 2B's passing. He wants to go on a murder rampage against them and goes into denial about the fact that their black boxes are made from machine cores.
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>>174597312
Still doesn't accept machines' actions having any meaning, even in the meat box.
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>>174588563
Thanks now I will be thinking about it all day. Fuck you anon.
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>>174597312
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>>174597809
what's with that ungodly aoe
stun chip or something?
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>>174597312

>>174597851
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>>174597624
>>174597709
This is called moving the goalposts, You were talking about the statements he said to 2b, now you're countering with stuff he said after he went off the rails
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>>174587595
He gave up 2B in that ending like, meh, she doesnt matter anymore, that i why i cant see it as a valid ending
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>>174597851
>>174597906
Whoops, meant to say I don't really know, I think I just got a screenshot in right as hacking made fuckers go kaboom. Autoposting triggered prematurely.

>>174597952
I'm not the Anon you were talking to, but there's no reason to believe he didn't hate on machines at all before Route C and only put up a front to support 2B and then needed to snap to continue hating on them in Route C.
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>>174588563
they bring that up in the game, the androids consider "death" to be when a Android has to loose a certain amount of memory. The example being when 9S dies without a recent back up at the Bunker. It also seems like the Yorha units are the only ones that are able to take advantage of this since the rest of the Resistance are able to be killed properly.

They clearly don't view life and death the same way we would, so they don't think of it the same way we do.
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>there are people who take everything a character says at face value when a major plot point is that some characters keep their true selves hidden
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>there are people who headcanon away facts in the game
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>>174598038
Nobody is arguing he didn't hate machines. But to suggest that his anti-machine statements he made to reassure 2b are a form of racism that's just fucking retarded.
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>unreliable narrator
>facts
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>>174596038
do you not understand what the word "Lackluster" means?

I also never gave a shit about the side quests, I did a tiny number of them and pretty much ignored the ones from randos on the street. I have never given a shit about fetch quests in games and since you can run through the story without every really needing to do the side quests it did not bother me all that much. They are still not good but they don't ruin the game.

Really the only time I ever felt the combat actively harmed my experience was in the lead up to the Hansel & Gretel fights. Although that had more to do with the camera having a hard time with the tight corridors.

Again I don't see how that makes the game "overrated" when what you have said pretty much falls in line with the general consensus on the game.

Unless you are making up a imagined group of people who think the combat was super great or you think people being apathetic to a feature you don't like means the game is "overrated"
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>>174588563
YoRHa androids are machine core-based.
Machine cores are most likely Gestalt-based which means they are technically "souls".
I assume backing up moves a part of their "soul" to either a cloud storage in Bunker or local storage in save point or inside the Pod itself. Or even weapons as they seem to have machine cores installed inside too judging by Type-4O weapon stories.

This would also mean that save points simply allow their "souls" to travel from one backup body to another which results in keeping the same "self".
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>>174598274
Well, I don't really agree with calling it "racism" either, seems to be a thing people try to push because they need their games to pander to muh politics. At best I'd agree to its use in big quotes to stand in for some prejudice against machines, which I'd say there is enough evidence for and not just him being supportive of 2B. He certainly didn't freak out at Pascal here and remind him he doesn't have "a heart" for show.
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>>174598386
You're fanwanking. Hard. Just stick to the facts chris chan
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>>174598560
There's only one fact here and it's that you see the continuous narration from the viewpoint of one character even when his physical body dies in some way, provided that he had a backup of some sort.
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Where do souls come from?
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9S is obviously racist as fuck and dehumanizes machines all the time. Part of it probably so he can deal with the fact he's slaughtering them.
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>>174524274
Kaine had a grudge against the Shades for killing her grandmother, and she cared so much about Nier that she would carry the burden of their atrocities by herself in order to protect him and see his dream to fruition.

9S doesn't really have a strong reason not to tell 2B about the machine memories.
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>>174598825
>9S doesn't really have a strong reason not to tell 2B about the machine memories.
Being secretive as fuck is a part of his personality and judging by CBO it pains 2B greatly.
Besides, why would he want to give additional worries to a person he cares about?
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>>174598692
What's your evidence for machine cores to be Gestalt-based? We know the machine network had to find out about Project Gestalt through the server and considering machine cores likely existed before the machine network, I find it hard to believe that they could be Gestalt-based when they hadn't learnt about Project Gestalt at that point. With fuck all information about the aliens, there's also no basis for them knowing about it.
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>>174599015
>fanwankers
>needing evidence or facts

Oh, you.
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>>174599015
>What's your evidence for machine cores to be Gestalt-based
Because in memory segment of 9S either his own memories or N2 literally takes a shape of Gestalt.
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>>174598521
Please forgive my use of the term 'racism'. I couldn't think of anything else to call it.
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>>174599080
That's Eve.
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>>174599230
It's neither Eve or Adam as it has movesets of both.
It's either N2 or personification of 9S' hatred.
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>>174599318
Yeah, you're right, it does use more than Eve's moveset, but it being a combination of previous enemies makes sense as the boss in a memory segment.

Either way, not seeing the Gestalt relation.
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>>174599397
>resource unit where he fights his own memories is literally called "soul box"
>why can't i see the relation of a distorted black shade with gestalts?
Really?
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>>174599569
I can see a stylistic and thematic one. Not a literal canonic relation between the two in-universe.
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>people think 9S's hatreds for machine is literally JUST CUS LOL RACISM despite his denial being showed to you as a coping mechanism so that he can justify in his minds killing them
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Is there any point to this room, or is just blocked off like this for kicks?
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>>174599626
N2 canonically absorbed records of project gestalt. Yeah, sure, it's just a stylistic choice in Taro's game.
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>>174599715
come back during route C
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>>174599715
Go back there in Route C.

>>174599725
But the creation of the cores predates that absorption. The original claim I asked for evidence for was the machine cores to be Gestalt-based.
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>>174599753
>>174599773
Could have sworn I went there during that route, but I'll chapter select around and see where it opens up. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>174599715
It's the ultimate bachelor pad.
You can't get in because you brought a girl.
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>>174599804
It's important you do it after the opening bit to that route. After the Bunker goes down and all.
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>loot yorha
>get 3 auto-heal temp boosts
Man, some people...
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>try finding Emil's home as 2B, expecting a brawl and she's most fun to play as
>there's a door with red light
>begrudedly leave and come back as 9S
>get in
>have to steal the mask
Glad I couldn't get in as 2B; wouldn't want her doing any stealing.
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>>174600208
It's kinda symbolic that 9S ends up doing the asshole bully thing while 2B can't do it.
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Each time i'm trying to fight drill snakes with girls i'm reminded that 9S will always be way better in terms of pure effectiveness than either of them.
Jesus fuck it's painful.
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>>174600521
It has to be easier with lock on, right? I've only been doing hard, and fighting those snakes I always just end up using my POD in place of weapons.
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>>174600659
you pretty much have to fight them at range. They are honestly the most annoying enemy type in the game because of that.
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>>174600762
It's easier to deliberately get close enough to trigger an evade+pod blast, which has auto aim, kills them quick enough
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>>174600659
Lock-on doesn't make a lot of difference, you're still mostly shooting at their weak spot with a Pod. Girls just don't have anything as good as 9S' spear moveset or fist charged attack, not to mention hacking. Combat models, my ass.
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>>174600920
>9S wanking yet again
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>Start playing OG Nier
>Hard mode
>First death to a goat

Please tell me I'm not the only one.
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>>174601436
what wanking has to do with game mechanics, retard
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I just beat the game on the last route, and I go back in to find my chip sets mostly like this. What the fuck happened? I'm missing a bunch of diamond chips I know I had before too.
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>>174600920
Use either the pod launch or the wire program to get pulled right to the core, switch weapon sets while air meleeing for maximum amount of hits and use pod counters if you get a perfect dodge.
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>finished the game a week ago
>woke up this morning

>finally hit me that after so many acts of open cruelty the reconstructed human consciousnesses finally reveal that, rather than robbing Androids of their faith, they chose a monumental act of mercy and pity

>even the machine-created bastardizations of mankind were moved by the tribulations of robot soldiers made in man's image to die

Whelp I'm crying again.
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>>174603870
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First time I didn't do papa Servo until I was in my mid 40s, but now I decided to do his red and white form at 28 and I had to bully him for a good 17 minutes. hah
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>>174603870
I'm not really following you.
I guess you're too intelligent to be understood.
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>>174604390

Did you go with them?
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>>174604317

he is so much easier with 9S.
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>>174604453
I get the gist of it now.
I still don't understand what you mean by reconstructed human consciousnesses
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>>174604706

The Red Girls
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>>174604976
I disagree.
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>>174605024

You disagree with what? They flat out state they're that and they speak of themselves in the first person as if they are human. on at least one occasion.
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>>174605478
I disagree.
They are a sentient network. That is all.
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>>174605576

Okay? That doesn't change the fact they're constructed out of every shred of data the machines found on humans, display human behavior, and display other traits like mercy.

They're a consciousness constructed in the image of humans from vast archives of human data. Disagreeing with that when it's flat out stated by the game doesn't make any sense.
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>>174601531
Who's the man behind those A2s? I like them
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>>174597987
he didn't know she could be restored.

he made peace with it, probably something like "she's dead for real, and i will never see her again. i'll remember her, but i need to let her go already. she can never be revived again".

kinda like how a real human would eventually have to, after the death of another. no matter how much you obsess over someone who already died, you'll never bring them back and you'll be stuck in your own personal hell until you let go and move on.
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>>174585359

The same way he managed to back himself up from the machine network in Endings A and B. You're making the mistake of assuming that a cyborg's individual identity can't be copied. Think of it as a fork: A 9S can exist on the machine network and a 9S can exist in a 9S model, but they are not necessarily the same 9S.

>>174586072
>>174587595

So 9S demonstrates the ability to continue existing on the Machine Network after his body is killed during the first ending of the game and you people just can't see how he managed to end up on the rocket?

You guys need to think about this a little harder.
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>>174606434

>cyborg

Huh, weird, not sure why I typed cyborg instead of android. Freudian slip I guess?
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>Down to last achievement, only need to watch all of the endings
>Find out that ending Y is can be missed, and I've already gotten past that point
Achievement shop it is, otherwise I would've been quite sad.
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>>174607076
After what point is it missed? Can I still get it through chapter select later?
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>>174597809
>machines can't feel pain
>do it while having the chip that makes it possible to hear their painful screams as they get hacked
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>>174607305
Second superboss fight with Emil, there will come a point where he begins to self-destruct. If you let him self-destruct you get ending Y. If you kill him you apparently miss it forever for that save slot.
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>>174607367
Even if you buy the achievement,
there will be a permanent gap in your alphabet.

Hope you don't have OCD.
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>>174607346

>YoRHa Androids scream too
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>>174607559
I don't. I already uninstalled it after Steam registered the achievement.
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>>174607632
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>>174605906
>>174605478
What? They're based on human consciousness but clearly it's super imperfect and not very close. A true human consciousness wouldn't be so overwhelmed by something as simple as self-doubt that it would tear itself apart. N2 isn't even close to being a "Reconstructed Human Consciousness." The yorha are way closer to human than N2

>>174605906
Not disagreeing that they're a "consciousness constructed in the image of humans," just saying that they're a completely failed construct
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>>174607914
>EVERY DAY'S A SALE
>EVERY SALE'S A WIN
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>>174597987
She was dead, permanently, as far as 9S knew. He had no idea that the pods had the capability to restore her; the pods themselves didn't really know until they started to develop consciousness, something they were totally unaware of.

He didn't "abandon" her or "give her up." She was dead.
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>>174607914

Beautiful

>>174608027

>They're based on human consciousness but clearly it's super imperfect and not very close.

Which is why I used the word "bastardization." Also why I found the act meaningful in the first place. They machines chose to do it in order to emulate humans.

>The yorha are way closer to human than N2

YoRHa are just a different side of the same coin. Machine cores in Android bodies.

>just saying that they're a completely failed construct

Well they did end up killing eachother. Not exactly a failure since it's another trait they have in common with us.
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>>174607914
Emil pls.
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>>174608438
>2B tries coffee for the first time.
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>>174607367
>>174607559
I fucked it up but CTRL-SHIFT-ESC the fuck out of it before it completed the quest and managed to get the ending second time
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>>174608438
You're making assumptions and fanwanking again. For one I'd like to know the exact wording of the machine core reveal scene in japanese since the english script takes a lot of liberties. You're assuming they literally take a machine core and put it in an andoird body to make yorhas and this probably is not the case since the black boxes are physically far smaller than a core, maybe 1/20th of the size.

I suspect the japanese dialog may be closer to "based on" machine cores not made from machine cores or whatever they say in english.
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>>174608027
>implying attaining internal conflict wasn't N2's goal all along
Engels talks about how the aliens never once had conflict among themselves in the history of their civilization. Adam derides the aliens and calls them pathetic creatures with simple, plant-like minds, and eventually arrives at the conclusion that conflict is what drives human consciousness. N2 wanted to attain that aspect of humanity in order to rebel against its primary directive, in order to have the freedom of self-determination.
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>>174609521

>For one I'd like to know the exact wording of the machine core reveal scene in japanese since the english script takes a lot of liberties. You're assuming they literally take a machine core and put it in an andoird body to make yorhas and this probably is not the case since the black boxes are physically far smaller than a core, maybe 1/20th of the size.

I'm the one making assumptions and fanwanking when you're the one appealing to an imaginary discrepancy that may or may not exist when the English text flat out states Black Boxes are made from Machine Cores because using Android AI would be "inhumane."

You might want to apply that whole fanwank criticism to yourself senpai.
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>>174609521
I'm pretty sure black boxes are literally made from machine cores. Would explain why intact cores are such a valuable commodity.
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>>174609820
You're still making the false assuption that a black box is a 1:1 substitute for a machine core when you know almost nothing about either device. Kind of ridiculous given the size discrepancy. You don't even know if the black boxes use any of the same programming language or software as a core. They could just be using the hardware for all you know
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So, since when A4 kills herself to save A2 by overloading her old school fusion reactor, not a black box or anything, does that mean the old YoRHa don't have black boxes? Does A2 have a black box? Does that mean she has actual android AI, instead of the machine core version? Could that be why she was so emotional during the events of the stageplay?

YoRHa don't seem to be able to track her, and nobody else ever mentions her black box signal, so...
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>>174598325
>I didn't do most of the quests
>the quests are not good

lol
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>>174609863
"made from" is highly flexible. They could turn them into powder and melt it down to make the circuit pathways for a black box for all we know. They could compress the whole thing down into a cube or cut a cube shaped piece out of it we just don't know.

The degree of similarity and functionality between a black box and a machine core is not clear and assuming they're directly compatible or comparable is only a theory.
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>>174610206
They have black boxes.
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>>174598386
>most likely
>I assume
>machine cores are technically souls

dude this is headcanon of the highest degree. it's totally fine if you want to believe it, but at least admit that it's headcanon. this is closer to fanfic than it is actual theory based on the evidence int he game.
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>>174610021

>You're still making the false assuption that a black box is a 1:1 substitute for a machine core when you know almost nothing about either device.

I'm not sure why you think it needs to be an exact interchangeability when the machine core needs to be modified to not only interface with an android body but also designed to be different enough that nobody would know it was a machine core. Non-YoRHa Androids know about Black Boxes, they just don't know what they really are.

>Kind of ridiculous given the size discrepancy.

Yet despite being smaller black boxes can manifest a significantly greater fusion reaction than common machine cores. I don't see why refining machine cores makes them anything other than refined machine cores.

>You don't even know if the black boxes use any of the same programming language or software as a core. They could just be using the hardware for all you know

A computer's a still computer whether it runs Linux or Windows. The machines' entire motivation throughout a large portion of the game is modifying their core behavior and operations in order to become more complex.

What about Adam and Eve? Did they stop being machines just because they're extremely physically similar to Androids?
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>>174601796
Did you ever die twice without recovering your body?
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>you need to die to 100% your data
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>>174610206
>YoRHa don't seem to be able to track her,
N2 turned off her blackbox signal at the end of the play. The fusion reactor might be that red glow A2 makes when running.
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>>174610206
My guess is black boxes weren't made with the ability to self destruct back then.

They changed the system because reactor overloads caused too much collateral damage.
Remember A4's reaction destroyed a mountain.

I do not claim any of this as fact, I am just spitballing.
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>>174610206
>YoRHa don't seem to be able to track her, and nobody else ever mentions her black box signal, so...

>Bunker to 2B and 9S. We've picked up a signal from the black box of a fugitive known as A2.
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>>174610693
>>174609820
>>174608438

The aliens didn't hack into the moon server.

The machines/machine network did.

So machines already existed when they learned about the gestalt program, etc.

so how the FUCK are machine cores based on "Gestalt data" and even if i'm wrong about the timeline, what's the evidence they were based on gestalts? and even if somehow they were how the FUCK does that make them souls?

You can write all the fanfiction you want man, but don't pretend that it's in the game. You're writing fanfiction, not figuring out super sekrit stuff about the game's story

>>174610693
>A computer's a still computer whether it runs Linux or Windows
And now you're making comparisons between modern day computer OS and semi-magical AI in the year fucking 11,000

please stop, you know that's a completely false equivalency. You MUST know that. Like I said, you can believe whatever you want to about the game, but don't pretend you've actually hit on anything legit, you've just come up with some cool fanon that sounds neato to you
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Where's this idea of them not being able to track A2 coming from? The Commander clearly says they're picking up her signal, and even sent pursuit androids after her before.

The reason 9S is triangulating her position based on emissions from her fighting stuff in the factory isn't because YoRHa can't track her black box, it's because them investigating A2 is something they're hiding from YoRHa.

Also, the intel files regarding YoRHa clearly state the black boxes to be a part of the plan from the get go, based on machine cores because standard AI would be "too inhumane." There's really no reason to assume earlier models didn't have them, and they get referenced ingame for A2.
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Why is A4 so perfect? Why did Taro kill her? ;_;
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>>174611030
I would wear them
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>>174610206
A2 having a black box is mentioned at the end of the play and several times throughout Automata, so she definitely has one. I don't see why she'd have one if A4 didn't.
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>>174611172
Because the ruins of places where gestalts were made were on earth???????????????????????????
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>>174611172

>so how the FUCK are machine cores based on "Gestalt data" and even if i'm wrong about the timeline, what's the evidence they were based on gestalts? and even if somehow they were how the FUCK does that make them souls?

Uh, I don't know because I literally haven't used "gestalt data" in any of my posts up to this point and I believe you are now arguing against an imaginary amalgamate of my posts and someone else's?

Jesus Christ dude keep your post strings straight.
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>>174611030
they're different on model.

then again, so is a2's enormous ass
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>>174610693
The point is for all you know the yorhas could run almost identical AIs to regular androids using hardware that's "made from" a machine core. Your assertion that yorhas are basically the same as machines or the other side of the same coin is baseless.

It's bizzare you would even think that when the yorhas and androids are near identical in behavior and motivation while 99.9% of machines equipped with cores are just dumb machines. Even eve one of the super machines is fucking retarded.
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>>174610206
>nobody else ever mentions her black box signal, so...

Literally one of the first things the commander says when you encounter A2 in the forest kingdom is ''We've picked up a signal from the black box of a fugitive known as A2''

Also black boxes are fusion reactors, the machine head lady tells you this.
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2B9S cutest lewdest couple.
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>>174611276
All the YoRHa girls had black boxes, but didn't use them to blow shit up. Guess it wasn't a thing until 2B9S generation.
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>>174611313
I want to fuck N2
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>>174611283
>>174610693
>>174609820
>>174608438
These aliens were stereotypical boring space aliens who flew around conquering planets. Adam/Eve confirms this.

Why the fuck are you assuming they created the machines in the first place to attack earth? They'd probably been making machines like these for ages.
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>>174611417
I've yet to see this one before. I thank you for contributing to my ever growing 2B9S folder.
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>>174611383
>Also black boxes are fusion reactors, the machine head lady tells you this.

Can you provide anything to back this up? A2 has both a fusion reactor and a black box apparently.
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>>174611492
Because Emil's storybook shows the aliens directly combating Emil instead of using machines
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>>174611310
sorry man, when there are two retards spewing headcanon fanfic nonsense in the thread it can be hard to tell them apart ;)
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>>174611383
Not the lady, but you're right otherwise.
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>>174611417
CUTE!!!!!!!!! These two make me so happy.
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>>174611578
Which makes perfect sense with the idea that black boxes ARE fusion reactors.
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>>174611574
It just popped up on my Twatter: https://twitter.com/nintorun20/status/855395494897500160
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>>174611612
The headcanon fanfic people are so tiresome.
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>>174611578
>A2 has both a fusion reactor and a black box apparently
I chalked that up to sloppy translations and also the stage play being genuinely bad

that or maybe the fusion reactor is a seperate power source? If the black box was the only powersource a yorha would shut down when removing it from their body, which as we see in the prologue doesn't happen
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>>174611326

>The point is for all you know the yorhas could run almost identical AIs to regular androids using hardware that's "made from" a machine core. Your assertion that yorhas are basically the same as machines or the other side of the same coin is baseless.

My assertion is that YoRHa units are made from components taken from machines and therefore machines are entirely capable of changing to be nearly identical to androids and perhaps even humans given enough time.

The point, therefore, is that a machine mind when placed into the form of an android essentially becomes an android. I extend this same concept to N2, whom are consciousnesses designed around all the data machines could collect on mankind. Thus, there form is as close a thing to a digitized human mind as it could be.

Meanwhile, this entire argument I'm having started when I stated how meaningful I found the N2 turning their moon destroying weapon into a fucking network partition containing machines who acted human.

I don't fucking get posts like these >>174611492

I have literally not even MENTIONED the fucking aliens or the gestalt shit from the original Nier once because I haven't even played it. These people are arguing against their own retarded bogeyman now.
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>>174611030
>>174611313
All of the character art has weird feet proportions. N2 and Commander have noticeably tiny feet.
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>>174610581
when you can get a quest and see that it is just "Collect X number of Y" I don't think you have to waste your time going through it to know that it is not a good quest.
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>>174611731
I really don't get it. Nier didn't have any crazy hidden truths that only headcanon stretch interpretations discovered. There was no hidden shit that wasn't basically spelled out in either the game or the canonical supplemental material. I don't know why people assume Automata is different. There's hidden meanings but it's all pretty thematic, not practical. There's not big hidden twist like "machines have souls" or "aliens created yorha" or some of the other embarrassing shit I've seen people claim in these threads.
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>>174611578
Where's this coming from? The dialogue talking about her "fusion reactor" I remember is from the Hegel fight, and in that it just talks about fusion output, not the reactor being some separate thing from the black box.
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>>174611824
What is a good quest?
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>>174611745
People got you confused with some retard who thinks that machine cores are human souls, as some of the shit you were saying was similar. Stop REEEEing about it
>My assertion is that YoRHa units are made from components taken from machines and therefore machines are entirely capable of changing to be nearly identical to androids and perhaps even humans given enough time.

Duh? that's the whole fucking point of the game, that the androids, machines, yorha, and humans are basically all the same. That's like, the whole point, not an assertion, not a theory, not something you've figured out.
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Are any translator anons here?
Stumbled upon original japanese weapon story scripts for automata and judging by the google translate cruel blood oath has quite a lewder meaning in first part of it ("I will never forget the time when I touched him"). Can someone confirm that localization team fucked up?

あの人に触れ合った時の事は忘れない。
この恋が永遠であるという確信。
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>>174611742
It would be good to find something solid either way on whether the fusion reactor and black box are the same unit.

>>174611902
I believe the logic is that the game never says the black box and fusion reactor are the same thing or they'd just call the fusion reactor the black box. Why would the game use two different names for one thing?
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>>174611789
Check out the size of 2B's feet in the Kainé outfit, it's ridiculous
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>>174612094
>Why would the game use two different names for one thing?
But it tells you the black box is a fusion reactor >>174611621
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>>174611880
>There's not big hidden twist like "machines have souls"
That's not fucking hidden at all, that's the major thematic element of Route B. Any arbitrary deliniations drawn between Android sapience and Machine sapience are purely for the sake of continuing the pointless conflict.

Androids and Machines are alive. They have souls, whatever those are.
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>>174611824
You'd be right in a lot of games, but Automata has a lot of quests, especially in Route C, that intentionally look like shitty fetch quests but turn into something really cool. Don't pretend you understand aspects of the game you didn't spend any time on, nerd
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>>174612195
Ok that settles that then. My bad
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>>174612049
Yes. If you wanted to make that lewder like I would have, I would have translated that line as, "I will never forget the time we connected."
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>>174612104
that's because they L I T E R A L L Y took Kaine's model from Nier 1 and put 2B's head on it. The ass is a dead giveaway

>>174612231
yo bro clam down you totally misunderstood me. Obviously the machines have 'souls' in the sense that they're alive conscious etc.

There was an anon in the thread earlier claiming the machines had human souls. Not human-like souls, but actual human souls. Remember that in the nier universe the soul is a physical thing that exists, not just a concept. He was claiming the machines had the souls of humans and that machine cores were made out of human souls from the gestalt project. That's what I was claiming was a retarded "hidden twist" that doesn't exist.
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>>174612001

>That's like, the whole point, not an assertion, not a theory, not something you've figured out.

I'm just going to end up frustrating myself so I'm going to link you back to how this started and you can draw from it what you want. I'm going to go take a walk or something.

>>174603870
>>174604390
>>174604706
>>174604976
>>174605024
>>174605478
>>174605576
>>174605906
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>>174612324
Thanks anon.
Fucking localization teams.
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>>174612324
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>>174612195
>>174612261
That begs the question, if the black box is their power source, where are the yorhas "brains"?
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>>174594592
Oh.
Oh no.
No no no, that's no good.
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>>174612324
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>>174612437
>say stupid shit
>other anon calls me out on my stupid shit
>tell him to calm down so it seems like I can maintain the tenuous illusion of control
Hahaha yeah ok
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>>174612049
They translated it fine.
While it also means to physically touch.
It also means to get to meet and get to know each other very well.
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2B and 9S have had android "sex" before, right?
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>>174594592
I've noticed that pattern too, but I mainly read it as the game, yet again, equating love and combat by basically having the machines who are on the same network as A & E go apeshit as Adam cums in Eve's butthole.
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Hey guys, this could be fun and cathartic. Let's compile a list of all the dumbest theories we've seen about Automata! All the most ridiculous headcanon asspulls you've heard, I wanna hear 'em too! I'll start:

>machines have human gestalts in their cores
>machines/androids created YoRHa
>9S is A4
>the commander is a human
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>>174612641
Looks like it's impossible to fully appreciate the automata's script without knowing japanese, eh.
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>>174612437
I don't remember Kainé having that huge feet, but maybe you're right
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>>174612745
Dude what is up with you? He just told you twice that the translation is fine.
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>>174612603
the fuck are you talking about? what stupid shit did I say? I should've said "machines have human souls" I guess, but if you're genuinely arguing that I'm trying to cover that I didn't realize from playing through the game and getting every ending that machines are alive you need to go fuck yourself, it's not something you can miss. I was just shitting on the anon from earlier who claimed machines have like, human gestalts inside them or whatever
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>>174612648
Well, now it certainly looks like it.
>first missions together
>2B is still kinda a crybaby like early A2
>9S is already dependable and courageous as fuck, they quickly form a bond then fuck like rabbits
>then execution order comes
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>>174612706
N2 is some kind of puppet master who planned out every event in the game. Including all 9s's actions
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>>174612648
2B/E may have done the deed only to end Nines immediately after.
Scanner units getting their Android dicks wet is grounds for termination.
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>>174612706
and I started off with a typo, fuck. The second one should be >machines/aliens created yorha
androids DID create yorha. oops
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>>174612706
>2B's heels are built in
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>>174612814

>>174612324 would have been a far better way to do it, though, because it can convey both meanings stated in >>174612641 while also dipping into the futuristic setting
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>beat routes C and D
>hunting for extra content
>attain Adam's glasses
>strap em on A2

HNNNNG
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>>174612706
I'm assuming you mean
>machines/aliens created yorha
because androids did create yorha my dude.

Anyway, I saw someone in here a few days ago arguing that 9S secretely knows *everything* about 2B being 2E, human extinction, and the like from the very beginning of the game, the prologue, and was keeping it to himself. Which not only is retarded and makes no sense, but would make the story much less interesting in retrospect.

Also
>A2 is kaine
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>>174613103
https://twitter.com/Ravaco_g/status/855430300897116161
MEGANE
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So where do souls come from?
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>>174612969
I don't know what autistic asshole would say they "connected" when they mean they touched someone.
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>>174613112
>A2 is Kaine
>2B is Kaine
>9S is bro Nier
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>>174612706
>the commander is a human
oh boy, how do you even start to believe this
like how the fuck
what
how about
>the logic virus is white chlorination syndrome which somehow evolved into a computer virus
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>>174613112
A2's personality makes a lot of sense when you consider she has her memories though, the emotional side and the bitch side
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>>174612969
>I will never forget the time we connected.
That doesn't sound as good as the original line to me.
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>>174613259
It means they had sex, you moron.
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>>174612881
Any writer anons pls make a fanfic of this.
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>>174613356
A2's personality makes plenty of sense given A2's backstory. I don't think a memory of having a dick and seeing your grandma getting killed really helps, or even fits. Either way, whether it makes sense or not, it's an asspull based on a single line from the stage play, so it fits with the request of silly headcanon
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>>174606112
>>174608110
Yeah I know :( now I feel worse for thinking that, poor 9S, imagine his happines when Pod restores him and 2B
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>>174613296
but A2 is dressed like bro nier in that pic, not like kaine
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>>174613379
But now you're adding shit when the original you want to retain is only talking about a touch and getting to know someone.
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>>174613103
They're not even cute glasses though. Thick framed glasses on girls is shit-tier
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>>174613497
Yep! Although there's probably a couple really awkward conversations ahead for them.

But yeah, is 9S had thought there was a chance of restoring her, his initial reaction when she died to A2 would've been waaayy different. Less "waaaaaahhh 2B is DEEEAAAAAAAD i'm gonna KILL A2" and more "fuck, what an inconvenience! Now I have to recover her body from that stupid ravine and get the pods to bring her back to life"

incidentally i wish you could find her body in the ravine like you can find her flight unit in the sunken city. I guess it fell into the watery part you can't enter
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>>174607062
????
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>>174613715
Taiwan poster for the game.
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>>174613451
>is in the stage play
>HEADCANON BECAUSE I SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
awesome saucem my fellow redditor!
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>>174613705
Obviously things had to happen the way they did for the story but how is getting killed by a2 any different from any other death? Just fire up the save point and off she goes again
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>>174613571
but it's ambiguous, because "connected" can mean in either the "getting to know someone" kind of way, or "having sex with someone" on a physical level, or even just exchanging data with one another.
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>>174613881
>is in the stage play
hahahahahaha, it's not though. the stage play says A2 has the memory of a girl who grew up with her grandma. That is NOT the same as the stage play saying she's based on Kaine. The stage play lists backstories for many of the yorha units, many of which are equally vague and can't even be stretched to relate to past nier characters.

I'm not saying it's impossible she's based on Kaine, but to say that she definitely is based on that part of the stage play is fucking r e t a r d e d
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiNKk3fPed8
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>>174613915
1. 2B was also corrupted by the logic virus
2. The bunker was dead by that point, so no more save point backups. Any deaths you die in routes A/B are canon. Any deaths you die in Route C are non-canon, that's why they make you load a save instead of respawning you. If 9S or 2B died in Route C, it's a genuinely permanent death, as there's no bunker for them to back up from.
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>>174613112

>Anyway, I saw someone in here a few days ago arguing that 9S secretly knows *everything* about 2B being 2E

anon, then can you please explain to me how did 9S quote his very first line of prolog(when he met 2B) in his "rescued memories" from ending D? Then he outright said about 2B killing him and that he didn't mind. And while you are at it, also explain prolog images in Soul Box and final flashback in A2 fight which was also from prolog?.
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>>174613915
>Just fire up the save point and off she goes again
Except that wouldn't work without the bunker. You know how in most games when you die, you don't -actually- die, story-wise? You load a save and then do things "the way they actually happened?" Like, Nathan Drake doesn't die and come back to life in the story of in Uncharted 2, even if you die playing as him several times. But in a game like Dark Souls when you die it's canonical/really happened?

Routes A/B of Automata are the second kind of gaming death, but Route C is the first.
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>>174614225
We know there is residual shit after wipes, but there's no way he knew everything.

Why don't you explain his actions and behavior for the entire fucking game up until route C if he knew everything? fucking moron
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>>174614126
>>174614242
It makes some sense story-wise but if all their backups are on the bunker why do you have to respawn from a specific save machine? Whenever you die, or load the game theoretically any save point would be as good as another but the game doesn't let you choose one.
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>>174614361
>We know there is residual shit after wipes,
he was fucking killed and not just wiped like androids in Amnesia/Wondering Couple quests.

I see a clear difference between uploading earlier backup data in a completely new body and wiping existing data several times.
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>>174614225
He wasn't quoting himself. He's probably said that shit a million times, but to him it wasn't a quote. As far as the memories, the whole point of that scene in the soul box was that she'd been taking his memories. That's what he's screaming as he stabs her in the boss fight. That's one of the memories she's taken.

There's probably little things that hang around after wipes, such as him remembering being called Nines, him having weird complex feelings about 2B he doesn't understand, but at the end of the day almost none of what he does or says in Route B makes sense if he secretly remembered everything, including plenty of stuff he says to himself while hacking when 2B isn't around to hear.
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>>174611935
I would say a good quest could either have Escalation or Story. If you go with Escalation then it start with something simple (Give this X to Y) and then becomes more complex as you go from stage to stage. (Y is stuck in the Z so you need to save them) Of course that can just be a slightly more complex version of X number of Y.

The better way is to have a strong story around it, I would point to the witcher 3 as a great example of that. There is a random side quest you can pick up in that game to try and find a missing woman that ends up getting you involved in a fucked up love triangle.

I think Automata has far better quests since they mostly have some kind of story to them. Even if they are just get X of Y.

>>174612240
I was talking about the first Nier, which mostly just has generic fetch quests with no real story.
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>>174614437
Loading the game is not a canonical action. You are going back in time in a meta, outside-the-game sense. Dying and respawning is canonical though; If you're asking why you respawn from the last machine you used when you die, then there's not really a story reason for it, that's just a game design concession.
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>>174614628
>I was talking about the first Nier
hahaha I feel like an idiot now! I totally misunderstood you, sorry.

If you were talking about Nier 1 then yes you are 1000% correct and I feel your pain. There are good quests in Nier 1 but they are extremely few and far between, and the fetch quests are super painful.

Automata has good quests and fetch quests but the fetch quests tend to be quick and simple and often even mark your map where the enemies who drop what you need spawn, so I didn't mind even the boring quests in automata. The combat actually being fun helps too
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>>174613418
I plan to put it in my fanfic.

There will be less fucking and more suffering.
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>>174614593
I am not saying that he remembers everything. But I see 3 references to prolog which he wasn't supposed to know at all as was stated by him after said prolog.
So that can only mean that he somehow was able to recover some memories during the game.
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>>174614437
>Whenever you die, or load the game theoretically any save point would be as good as another but the game doesn't let you choose one.
lmao
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>>174614905
>more suffering
Anon pls
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>>174614914
I actually agree with you. Again, I think he has a really complicated relationship with 2B but he doesn't fully understand why.

I agree that he recovered things over the course of the game. What I was saying was stupid is the claim that, from the first 5 minutes if the game, the prologue, going forward, 9S knows -everything- about 2B and his past, remembers her killing him, everything. That, I think is fucking retarded.

He figured it out at some point during Route C. When he figures it out is up for debate, some say along the way, some say he wasn't sure until A2 confirmed it for him. But I don't think he knew that during routes A/B.
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>>174614918
How is that funny? If you last saved in the desert city and you need to get to your body in the forest castle it makes no sense to respawn in the desert when canonically it would be just as easy to respawn in the forest castle. It doesn't make any sense in universe it's just a game design concession like otheranon pointed out.
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>>174615074
>That, I think is fucking retarded.

*high five*
Can't argue with that. So many retarded assumptions floating around.

>He figured it out at some point during Route C

I actually found a reddit post about this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/64rrvw/clues_towards_9s_knowing_spoilers/

there may be some clues in A/B too but they are not as strong to fully convince me.
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>>174615346
>*high five*
>I actually found a reddit post about this topic:
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>>174612706
The watchers are responsible for the entire machine network and Ending D is canonically the worst ending because the watchers influence will now be spread throughout the cosmos
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>>174615346
just so you know you are replying to me and this meanie: >>174615446 is not me

Also 9S having secretly known everything the whole game (including route a/b) makes the story less interesting and more contrived, imo. It's a much more interesting dynamic if 2B knows all this shit, 9S only has shadows of it but slowly learns more and more, and by the time he understands the full truth of his relationship with 2B, she's dead so he can't get closure/work through it with her/confront her about it/etc
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>>174612706
I really did think the commander was going to be human, since 6O mentions she never does maintenance.
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>>174615913
> 9S only has shadows of it but slowly learns more and more

Yeah and it is the most likely scenario. Slight hope for a final relief for 2B/9S and then everything goes to utter shit.
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>>174615913
Some of the statements by 2b and the executioner yorha on the sidequest are very odd and if he'd spent some time thinking about them he may have had suspicions but yeah I don't subscribe to the he knew everything asspull
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So I'm getting into the early parts of DoD3.
This Mikhail dragon, is he Michael?
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>>174617410
Yes.
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>>174617410
Yup.
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>>174617478
What the fuck happened? Why is he like, a kiddo?
Was I not paying attention to something that happened after the intro?
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>>174617410
Yes, Michael reincarnated. He came from Michael, but is not Michael.
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>>174617538
And why does Zero have a flower?
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>>174617643
It grew out her eye during her recovery period. Dragons make one wish before they die and he wished to be with Zero again.
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>>174617864
Ahhh okay. That's a bit strange but interesting. I'm liking the characters so far. Zero's kind of a stone cold bitch though
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>>174618027
you playing in jap or english
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>>174618027
>Zero's kind of a stone cold bitch though
She is nothing like that in the Japanese version.
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>>174618027
translation's fault. originally she was more laid back and uncaring. translators turned her into constantly pmsing perpetually angry bitch who screams a lot.
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>>174618201
English voices. I'm mostly just talking about her murderquest
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>>174618027
get the japanese voice pack

automata suffers also from this but to a lesser extend
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>>174618027
Not that anon, but what the fuck is up with Mikhail's english voice? That is not what I expected an ancient dragon to sound like
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95vzvWlGqU
So we all agree this is the best song in the OST right? anyone have the actual OST arrangement on youtube?
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>>174618379
japanese one has the same voice.

mikhlail isn't an ancient dragon. he's pretty much a newborn dragon. michael was pretty old, but he died in the prologue.
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>>174618379
He's a kid.
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>>174618345
you said the magic words
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>>174618437
The best is crumbling lies but there isn't a good version out there.
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>>174618379
Michael did, but he's dead.
Mikhail is pretty much a newborn.
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>>174618518
He's right though. Jap Zero and English Zero are completely different characters
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>>174618565
NO DRAGON BABBIES IN MY SQUAD
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>>174618437
Download the OST from JPS
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>>174618632
But I don't see how changing voices would matter, aren't they the same subtitles?
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>>174618682
oh cool didn't know it was on there
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>>174618783
>not knowing nipponese
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>>174618904
I'm not learning a foreign language to play a video game
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>>174618948
Sucks to be you
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>>174619096
Zero's a meanie but I admit she's cute
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>>174611417
Here take this.
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WHY ARE THEY SO PERFECT?!
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>>174619876
Quite possibly literally made for each other.
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>>174614027
I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that this incredible Kaine-like character has a Kaine-like memory.
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>>174618783
>implying delivery isn't vital to characterization
The script is just half of it.
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>>174618783
Tone in voice is universal.
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>>174620557
>>174620502
Well I mean I know that but i was more referring to the lines
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>>174618632
Setting aside the delivery and tone, which are easy enough, how difficult is Japanese Zero's Japanese to understand, on a scale of babby's first shounen (which I can basically understand without subtitles at this point) to Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (nah, not a snowball's chance in hell)?
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I broke a tooth and now I'm stuck at home until monday drugged up on painkillers and in considerable pain.

Do I do a no weapons no chips hard mode run of Automata?
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I remember an interview with Taro where he talks about the importance of player interpretation for his works of something along those lines, does anyone has a link to it? Can't find it.
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So why did a censor screen of chibi Zero and Five come up after the Five boss fight?
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>>174506657
...thats pretty gay anon
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>>174620960
Taro thought it would be funny.
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>>174621049
It's cute af
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>>174620960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAk1-HM0FGU

>You sucked even as a lover at night, only using brute strength!
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>>174559640
Nigga Chinese is basically just the kanji in Japanese so anyone who knows kanji pretty well can technically translate it.
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>>174620836
Fists + shockwave chips because hadoukens are fun.
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So this narrator in between the missions totally has the voice of Devola in English, I realized
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>>174620606
Well you can still catch some misstranslated lines if you know even the most basics if you otherwise consume jp media in jp dub. Like when 2B says 'oh great' in the prologue in eng and goes 'sonna' in jp. Basic lines like these help show how in eng you get your typical sarcastic wanna be witty hollywood dialogue. I'm sure the same applies to dod3.
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>>174621208
why is dod3 so edgy
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>>174622042
So far I feel like DoD3 has a lot of DMC influence in it, right down to the devil trigger.
But I kind of enjoy games with a main cast of disgusting and shitty people, it makes it a lot of fun to point and laugh at them
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>>174622042
Because it was balanced out by all of the goofiness and heartwarming parts.
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>>174622343
>Mikhail
>disgusting and shitty
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>>174612881
>>174613418
>>174614905
Oh man no, I just want a fic about it without suffering and nice fucking :(
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>>174622343
Didn't DMC1 pretty much invent the Character Action genre as we know it?
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>>174622574
Well I mean with the exception of the infantile Mikhail.
I mean with trend that Dito and Zero are setting up I'm expecting to have the medieval equivalent of the Always Sunny cast in my party
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>>174622574
he's literally disgusting and literally shitty
he is literally covered with shit and piss and many of the characters comment on how bad he smells

DOD3 is taro's lowest point imo (I don't really count DOD2 as a taro game because he wasn't given too much power over it)
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>>174622779
Hey now, he at least tried to take a bath near the end of the game.
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>>174622574
mikhail is literally disgusting and shitty, the other characters are figuratively disgusting and shitty

same rules apply
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>>174622779
D3 is pretty much a straight upgrade over D1. The only difference is that D1 came first so it has an edge in being the original Taro game.
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>>174621208
I'll probably just never play Darkengard 3, so can anyone tell me what did the girl do to deserve this scene?
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just got the original drakengard in "slightly scratched" but "still working" condition off amazon
am I going to get a glitch at the very last five minutes rendering the game unfinishable?
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>>174623369
Zero's primary goal is to kill all of her "sisters", and Five was one of them.
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DLC costumes when?
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>>174623369
Zero has to kill all her sisters, and the woman had been raping that boy day in and day out.
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>>174623369
Freed the world of corrupt politicians with her sisters and then proceeded to rape that boy on a daily basis.
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>>174623070
It's a straight upgrade gameplay-wise, but that's it. And when we're talking about going from shit to a bit less shit, that's really not saying much.
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you guys know that now that Automata game out and is great we can stop pretending that DOD3 was a good game, right?
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>>174624238
You know they can both be good games? You should at least play DoD 3 before talking about it.
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>>174624510
I've played DOD3, and all its DLC. Is it really that hard to believe that I didn't like it, that you would accuse me of not having played it just because I don't like it?
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>>174612706
The entire game is a computer simulation. It is managed by the online network and uses the player as a measurement of human emotion based on their actions.
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>>174624646
hahahaha damn. that is impressive. wish I was in that thread
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>>174624631
It is when you act like a raging faggot
>DUDE AUTOMATA EXISTS DOD3 SUCKS XD
pathetic
who are you even trying to impress
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>>174624097
It can't be overstated how one-note 90% of D1's cast was, and the plot is just one contrivance after another.

D3 suffered from the same problems, but to a lesser extent.

>>174624631
>playing the victim card after claiming that people are just pretending D3 is a good game
Automata really reeling in that tumblr-reddit coalition.
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>>174624772
yo keep your autism on the back burner, I didn't mean to make baby so grump-grump. Not sure what you're getting so fired up about. I'm not trying to impress anyone.

I never liked DOD3 and I always figured the reason there was so much apologism for it is that people who love Yoko Taro thought it would likely be his last game, and were having trouble coming to grips with the fact that it wasn't very good.

I never said it sucks. It doesn't suck. But it's not every good.
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>>174624905
>yo keep your autism on the back burner, I didn't mean to make baby so grump-grump. Not sure what you're getting so fired up about. I'm not trying to impress anyone.

>>174624238
you can't claim someone else is autistic when you type a post like this lmao
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>>174623661
>>174624030
Only a fag like Dito wouldn't want to be Five's toy.
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>>174624905
>yo keep your autism on the back burner
Please develop a shred of self-awareness.

Regards
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>>174624817
>>playing the victim card after claiming that people are just pretending D3 is a good game
Pretending was the wrong word. I just figured it was love for taro blinding people. It's not a bad game, but the gameplay is pretty much impossible to defend and the story isn't up to Taro's standards. It's not that much worse than DOD1's, but it's a lot more infantile. It would confuse me less if he'd written DOD3 first. I know it's a prequel, but it feels like it was written first, by a less experienced guy, not just that it takes place first. Knowing taro, maybe that was even the intention. It just fell flat for me.
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>>174624646
>>174624768
Please dont tell me someone here had that idea.
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>>174624976
>>174625047
damn, I never thought people were this triggered by DOD3 getting shit on. I always figured that even people who liked it sort of had it as a guilty pleasure that they knew wasn't really anything special. Guess I was wrong. Well, power to you then, there's no accounting for taste :)
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>>174625093
You have to be no older than 14 to think that D1 is less infantile than D3.
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>>174625220
>triggered
>:)
back to /v/eddit my man
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>>174624238
While Automata is great and I played that first I'm having a fun time with DoD3. So maybe calm down a little?
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>>174625367
I mean, they both have pretty flat characters but D3 is the one with the poopy and "lol sex" jokes stuck throughout the whole thing. Different strokes, I guess. Again, it's not like I think D1 is a masterpiece. It's decidedly mediocre, just like D3. I played both games on release, so if I'm 14 now I played D1 the same year I was born. So maybe it's just the nostalgia factor from playing it as a newborn infant that makes me like it more than D3, you've actually got a point there

>>174625369
>back to /v/eddit my man
back to /v/ my man
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Anyone else have trouble with Data Analysis Freak? There is no quest marker and I have no option to hack the terminal in the factory if I go to it. I ran into a similar problem with 11B's Memento in 2B's playthrough where the corpse just never appeared.
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>>174625859
are you doing it first time through, or in chapter select? and you're sure you're in the right spot?
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>>174625859
>Go into factory
>Go in the direction of the shortcut that leads to the bridge
>terminal is in the room before said bridge
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>>174626273
This is a brand new playthrough and yes.

>>174626296
I know where the terminal is. Try actually reading the post before trying to respond next time.
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>>174625670
>poopy and "lol sex" jokes
As opposed maximum teenage edginess.

D3 has a much stronger emotional core, a better polished and thought-out narrative, a more interesting main character, and its social commentary is more daring and pointed. It tackles more relevant taboo subjects, and it does so in a way that is at times more direct and at other times much more subtle.

D1 is a landmark game and I love it dearly, but D3 does pretty much everything better other than raw shock value.
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Guys guys we need a new general
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>>174626551
>poopy and "lol sex" jokes
>As opposed maximum teenage edginess.
Yes, exactly. Said that D3 was "more infantile." I stand by that.

Also if you think D3 isn't chock fucking full of teenage edginess you need to replay it. Zero is teenage edginess: the protagonist
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>>174627956

>>174618345
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>>174628081
i'm japanese anon
I played it in japanese
in japan
I just didn't like the game
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>>174627515
No. If everyone is just going to shitpost about how autistic and triggered everyone but them is the general should die.
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>>174628531
nah we should make a new one and just stop fighting about dod3 who fucking cares
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